1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Hey, Michael, It's seven point fifteen Central Time in the evening. 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: As I'm listening to your podcast as I normally do, 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: and you're talking about the intimacy of radio and how 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: people listen to you and what they're doing when they 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: listen to you. Well, I'm shoveling manure in a barn, 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: me and the horses, and. 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: You could have been a whole lot worse. 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 3: No, actually, I think that's very appropriate. 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 4: So I'm just shoveling the manure into his head, and 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 4: he's just shovling the manure that is on the floor 11 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 4: into the pile. Just one pile of maneuver to another 12 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 4: pile of manure. That guy's just surrounded by manure. Lucky hire. 13 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 4: Last so, we had the grand jury in Maryland that 14 00:00:55,040 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 4: has now indicted former UN Ambassador and National Security advisor 15 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 4: John Bolton the mustache mustache, and there was a lot 16 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 4: of discussion about it on the news last night, and 17 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 4: of course if you go over to CNBC and other places, 18 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 4: it's really all about the indictment is, well, let's do 19 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 4: this one. 20 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: That's what. 21 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 4: Now, this comes from MSNBC. We had, you know, I 22 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 4: think they've shifted from Hitler and Nazis to stolid again 23 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 4: uh MSNBC Norm Eisen talking to. 24 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: Some talking head. I don't know who she is night Frankly, don't. 25 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 5: Care willfulness and the instructive evidence and the contrast there. 26 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, with all respect to Christy, this is based on 27 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 6: what we know now, way too soon to compare to Trump. 28 00:01:55,320 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 6: There's no indication that Bolton to hide the material when 29 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 6: he was notified of the investigation. Indeed, if you look 30 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 6: at the record, it looks like the Biden administration passed 31 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 6: on the prosecution. 32 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 7: There's no indication that Christy. There's not a single document 33 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 7: specified in this indictment apart from diary entries. For centuries 34 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 7: senior government officials have kept diaries. That's not the same 35 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 7: as a document that's mark ts as ci. And when 36 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 7: you look at the pattern, Biden wasn't saying prosecute my enemies. 37 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 7: He wasn't naming the enemies. When you look at the 38 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 7: pattern here, it reminds me of what the head of 39 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 7: Stalin's secret police, lavent To Barria, said to Stalin, show 40 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 7: me the man, I'll find you the crime. That's what 41 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 7: they're doing with John Bolton here. So I think because 42 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 7: it's classified we don't know what the evidence is, whether 43 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 7: it's benign or concerning. I think we need to reserve judgment. 44 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 7: But given the suspicious circumstances, boy, I would not rush 45 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 7: to say that we know that Bolton is guilty or not. 46 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 7: This is a place where innocent until proven guilty. In 47 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 7: the context of how Trump has behaved and his Justice Department, 48 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 7: that's axiom is underlined, highlighted and in bold. Well to 49 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 7: that point Jack, before I kick it over to John, that. 50 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 4: Can compare and contrast that. Although I don't have it 51 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 4: anywhere in my I can't find anywhere in our. 52 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: Nobody has it. 53 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 4: Last night, I had gone to late dinner, came back 54 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 4: and Hannity was on. I never watch Hannity, but Hannity 55 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 4: had Jonathan Turley and Trey Goudy on. As you know, 56 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 4: Trey Goudy is a former federal prosecutor. Trakeout he is. 57 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 4: I thought he was always very good as a congressman. 58 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 4: He was very good in hearings at cross examining witnesses. 59 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 4: And he was on a tirade last night saying the 60 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 4: exact opposite of what norm Eisen was saying in that 61 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 4: sound bite, and he was going on about the documents 62 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 4: that are included in the indictment. Now, remember this indictment 63 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 4: came from a grand jury. I know the old saw 64 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 4: you can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich, 65 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 4: But this is still an independent grand jury who can 66 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 4: on their own make a decision. If you're trying to 67 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 4: indict the ham sandwich, and the grand jury is looking 68 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 4: at you're trying to indict this ham sandwich, meaning there's 69 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 4: there's no there there a grand jury will I think 70 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 4: ninety nine point nine percent of the time will say no, 71 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 4: we're not going to return an indictment. We don't think 72 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 4: there's enough evidence here. I think this oh, ham sandwich 73 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 4: analogy is really an indictment of you and I as 74 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 4: citizens when we're asked to serve on a grand jury, 75 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 4: that we'll just do whatever the prosecutor says. Maybe there 76 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 4: was a time back in the forties or fifties when 77 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 4: that was true. I don't think that's true anymore. I 78 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 4: think that most American citizens look at grant at their 79 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 4: service on a grand jury has a very serious solemn obligation, 80 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: and they will look at it and if they don't 81 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 4: believe that, it's if the prosecutor is presenting evidence to 82 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 4: indict a ham sandwich. And the ham sandwich was just 83 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 4: you know, soured oaugh bread and ham and cheese. It's like, no, 84 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 4: we're not going to indict it. There's no crime about 85 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 4: being a ham sandwich. And Trey Golly was going on 86 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 4: in very specifics. Now, obviously he wasn't repeating what was 87 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 4: in the documents. He was only referencing the documents that 88 00:05:55,640 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 4: were referenced in the indictment. But Gatty was talking about 89 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 4: these documents if they say what they claim they say 90 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 4: in the indictment, that this is a very serious charge. 91 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 4: And Isisen is right. Everybody keeps a journal. I kept 92 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 4: a journal. But what I was careful of in the 93 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 4: journal that I kept was I would keep notes of meetings. 94 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 4: I would keep notes of things that happened. I would 95 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 4: keep notes about everything. You know, I'm still working on 96 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 4: converting that journal into a book. There is nothing in 97 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 4: that book or in that journal that would require me 98 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 4: to go to the CIA or the White House or 99 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 4: anybody else, or to the Nessay or just any of 100 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 4: the three letter agencies and say, hey, by the way, 101 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 4: would you review this to make sure there's no classified 102 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 4: material in there because I didn't put a classified material 103 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 4: in there. 104 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 3: John Bolton did do that. 105 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 4: And Trey Gatty was on this tirade last night about 106 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 4: how it's just when you look at the markings on 107 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 4: the documents, which they may show the cover sheets or 108 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 4: a summary of what's in there without disclosing the actual 109 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 4: substance of what's in the documents. At least from Trey 110 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 4: Gatty's point of view, this is a very serious indictment. 111 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 4: Then yesterday yesterday they or this morning they had Jonathan 112 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 4: Turley on. 113 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 5: I just want to go on through some of the 114 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 5: documents that he had, So there was some infro foe 115 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 5: on future attacks, foreign intel sharing, adversary covert action, sensitive human. 116 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 4: Here's what he's listening. The transmitted documents allegedly included intelligence 117 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 4: intel on five things, future attacks, foreign intelligence sharing, our adversary, 118 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 4: covert actions that we're aware of, sensitive human intelligence called 119 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 4: human human intelligence sources, and our own covert operations and assessments. 120 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 4: If that's the substance of what was in the documents, 121 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 4: it is a serious violation. 122 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 5: Intel sources and covert operation in. 123 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: Assessments just face value. 124 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 5: You know, you can talk about political targeting all of that, 125 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 5: but that is damning evidence from the Bureau. 126 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 8: It's very damning, and we still have to learn about 127 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 8: the timeline of when this information was transmitted. But certainly 128 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 8: this information is classified at the highest levels because this 129 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 8: is information and get people killed. I mean, this is 130 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 8: the type of information that, if it gets out, can 131 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 8: reveal sources and methods that represent really threatening consequences for 132 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 8: national security. And keep in mind that in an earlier case, 133 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 8: a federal judge said that he could not force Bolton 134 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 8: to bring back and destroy all of the books that 135 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 8: he had published with this company, but he said, you 136 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 8: did undermine national security. This book does that, and so 137 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 8: that's sort of the context here. And the other thing 138 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 8: about this lawrence is that this was a long standing 139 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 8: series of objections. He was investigated during the Biden administration 140 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 8: before that was scuttled, but he had basically defied a 141 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 8: lot of the objections from the intelligence community. And now 142 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 8: this indictment says that he was sending this information to 143 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 8: what appears to be his wife and daughter, who of 144 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 8: course have no clearances, and that it might have even 145 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 8: been hacked by the Iranian government or its associates. 146 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 5: I know, it's not necessary to prove intent, but it 147 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 5: does make it more difficult for him that they warned 148 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 5: him before he decided to do this, and yet he 149 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 5: kind of stuffed. 150 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: At it and could proceeded. 151 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 5: I want to go to these comments back in Jyuary 152 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 5: twenty twenty three. This is what he had to say 153 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 5: about handling classified documents. 154 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 3: As watch it. 155 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 9: It sets a bad example for the thousands of other 156 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 9: people in the federal bureaucracy who have security clearances, because 157 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 9: if the people at the top can be casual about 158 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 9: it and then get away with it, that is not 159 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 9: a good lesson to teach. 160 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 5: It's like one of those moments audacity for me, like 161 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 5: how could. 162 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 3: You be so strong? 163 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 5: And then we find all this information. 164 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 8: We know Lawrence, those clips, I can tell you he's 165 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 8: a criminal defense attorney probably rule out his ever being 166 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 8: put on the stand, because while the court might not 167 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 8: allow those to be admitted initially, they very well could 168 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 8: be admitted to impeach him or rebuck him. And I 169 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 8: don't think he can take the risk because he looks 170 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 8: like an utter hypocrite. I mean, this indictment really shows 171 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 8: a level of casual treatment of intelligence information. 172 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: It's quite shocking. 173 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 8: He comes across like a teenager in a chat room. 174 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 8: I mean, he's sending this stuff by email. After all 175 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 8: the controversies that we have had for years about trying 176 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 8: to secure this type of information and lawrence. 177 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: There's two arguments here that will not work. 178 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 8: One is, well, this is just old classified material that 179 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 8: doesn't fly. The question is is it classified or not? 180 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 8: That's why jurors tend to view these is rather cut 181 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 8: and dry questions. The other argument, which sort of was 182 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 8: suggested by his counsel, is well, everyone does this. This 183 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 8: is just keeping a diary. That's not going to work either, 184 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 8: you know, whether you transmit the document or the contents, 185 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 8: it's classified and it's subject to these criminal laws. 186 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 4: I think Turtly makes the most cogent argument about what's 187 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 4: really going on here. But regardless of any of that, 188 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 4: let's go to what the other side say. Let's go 189 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 4: to Anderson Cooper last night and. 190 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 10: A former federal prosecutor, I mean eighteen count indictment of Bolton. 191 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: Do you think it's warrant? 192 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 10: Well, this is why Donald Trump's abuse of the criminal 193 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 10: justice system and the FBI is so problematic. This was 194 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 10: an investigation that has been going on for some time, 195 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 10: I think, preceding Donald Trump's presidency. And it's a quite 196 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 10: detailed indictment, as Caitlin just said. But the problem is 197 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 10: that Donald Trump talks so much about John Bolton. He 198 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 10: talks so much about going after his enemies and using 199 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 10: the criminal justice system to do that. We have seen 200 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 10: very very weak, thin, perhaps meritless indictments of Jim Comey 201 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 10: and Letitia James recently, and so that puts a very 202 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 10: different gloss over John Bolton's indictment. 203 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 2: This one is different than those. This is a much. 204 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 10: More thorough investigation, and if the allegations are true, it 205 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 10: is a crime. 206 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 3: Stop. 207 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 4: There was an investigation of Bolton conducted during the Biden administration, 208 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 4: there was an investigation conducted prior to that, and Trump 209 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 4: one point zero, so the guy's been investigated. Trump leaves office, 210 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 4: the investigation carries over to the new Department of Justice. 211 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 3: They investigate it. 212 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 4: Biden nixes the investigation, says no, I wonder why, because 213 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 4: maybe Biden was guilty of the same thing. 214 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: And then Trump comes back in. 215 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 4: They revive the investigation, they take it to a grand jury, 216 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 4: and they get the indictment. Congressman Dan Goldman, the guy, 217 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 4: you just heard the congressman from New York. Well, you know, 218 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 4: Trump keeps talking about going after his enemies. Trump keeps 219 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 4: talking about going you know, politicizing the Justice Department. Trump 220 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 4: keeps talking about this blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Well, 221 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 4: when the talking heads and the legal commentators in the 222 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 4: press and the Democrat Party carry on all of their 223 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 4: bull crap over indictments of antagonists and President Trump, last 224 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 4: night I thought to myself, well, let's do a compare 225 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 4: and contrast. So I want you to think about who's 226 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 4: been indicted, who's been charged that has either a personal relationship, 227 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 4: a business relationship, political relationship, or worked for or is 228 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 4: related to Donald Trump. And then let's think about those 229 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 4: who are none of those that are others that are Democrats. 230 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 4: Bear with me, I want to I want to read 231 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 4: you names, some of which you'll recognize, most of which 232 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 4: you will not, but a Google search will review that. 233 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 3: These are. 234 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 4: Let's see, I've got one, two, three, four, five, six, 235 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 4: one two, three, four, five, six, thirty six minus two 236 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 4: thirty four names. Yeah, I'm gonna read you thirty four names. 237 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 4: Donald Trump, Donald Trump Junior, Eric Trump Avalka, Trump, Maloney, Trump, 238 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 4: Baron Trump, Walter Nata At, Allen Weisberg, Jeffery and Comy, 239 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 4: Rudy Giuliani, John Eastman, Martin Meadows, Jeffrey Clark, Keith Cheeseborough, 240 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 4: General Flynn, Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort, Pete Navarro, Steve Bannon, 241 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 4: Roger Stone, David Shaffer, Shawn Hill, Stephen Lee, Robert Kiley, 242 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 4: Harrison Ford, Harrison Ford Harrison, Floyd, Trathy and Coodie, Sidney Powell, 243 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 4: Michael Roman, Scott Hall, Ryan Smith, Mister Hayes, Kim Vanderwood, 244 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 4: Stanley Grot, Army Fracello, Kathy Bardon, Jenna Ellis, Mishaw Maddock, 245 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 4: Mary and Sheridan, Marie and Henry Rosebrook, William Choke, George Papadopoulos, 246 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 4: Clifford Frows, Frost, John Haggard, Timthany King, Michelle Lundwin, James Renner, 247 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 4: Christian bobrit Myra, Rigus Ken, Thompson, Tyler Boya, Nancy Cobble, 248 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 4: Jack Kaufman, Boris Yesson, Anthony Kleine, Jim Lannon, Robert Montgomery, 249 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 4: Samuel Moorehead, Lorraine Pellegrino, James Tropis, Greg Suffrason, Kelly Ward, 250 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 4: Kelly Ward, Michael Ward, Kathleen Lanham, Eileen Reich, Sean Maheen, 251 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 4: Michael McDonald, James de Granafield, Jesse Law, James Hindle. The 252 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 4: third what are those? Those are the thirty four people 253 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 4: that have son nexus to Donald Trump who have all 254 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 4: been indicted, convict tried, or convicted in many cases. Some 255 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 4: have had them overturned on appeals. But they've all been 256 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 4: gone after during the Biden administration. And I made a 257 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 4: list of other people, all of those people that were 258 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 4: told that Donald Trump is using to politicize the Justice Department. 259 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 4: Now I just read you thirty four names. Are you 260 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 4: ready for all the other names, those that are apparently 261 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 4: being you know, somehow nailed to the cross, They're being 262 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 4: persecuted and prosecuted because Donald Trump's going after his enemies. 263 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 3: You ready. 264 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 4: Let me take a deep breath and get them all in. 265 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 4: James coming, Letitia, James. So the people a list first, 266 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 4: some in different cases, multiple cases. But you got some 267 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 4: seventy different defensive subjects named in one of the many cases, 268 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 4: both civil and criminal cases brought by partisan Democrat prosecutors 269 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 4: or state's attorney generals between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty four, 270 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 4: and I probably left out some. That's just trying to 271 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 4: use Google to find as many as I possibly can. 272 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 4: They have incurred tens of millions of dollars in personal 273 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 4: financial hardship as well as having to live with fear 274 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 4: for themselves and their family that one day their political 275 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 4: views might. 276 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 3: Land them in jail. 277 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 4: And on the other hand, we got James coming Letitia James. Huh, 278 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 4: so what do we have to think about this? 279 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 10: Hey, Mike, I always trying to take notes on all 280 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 10: those names, and I think I missed a couple. 281 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 3: Can you can you repeat all those again? Please? 282 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 2: Thanks? 283 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 3: No, but is it up on the website. 284 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: There's no need to repeat any of those names. It 285 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 2: is posted at Michael says go here dot com. Michael 286 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 2: created a beautiful chart that has been posted Michael says 287 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 2: go here dot com. 288 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 4: The reason I put it in chart form is I 289 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 4: want you to see, just visually the number of people 290 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 4: that they've gone after for just having a relationship with 291 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 4: Trump versus you got Letitia James. Let's think about the arguments. 292 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 4: The argument on Latitia James if true now again again, 293 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 4: you know she's into until proven guilty. 294 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 3: If she really did. Now every time that I fill. 295 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 4: Out, you know, a a loan application or a credit 296 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 4: application or anything else, and they asked, like, you know, 297 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 4: use of proceeds, what you're going to do, or they 298 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 4: they want to know what your income is. 299 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. 300 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 4: I'm really careful about that stuff because at the bottom, 301 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 4: you signed something that says that that you you affirm 302 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 4: under penalties of perjury, that this is all true and correct. Now, 303 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 4: is what's the likelihood that if I misstate you know, 304 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 4: you know, oh, I didn't really look at my uh, 305 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 4: you know, last year's tax return to see what myjesic 306 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 4: gross income was. But I thought it was in the 307 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 4: in the in the you know, in the in the 308 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 4: I thought it was somewhere within the box of you know, 309 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 4: twenty two point six million dollars, I met twenty two 310 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 4: dollars and sixty cents. It was somewhere in there, and 311 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 4: I put twenty two dollars in seven sins. I'm not 312 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 4: too worried about that. But if I did put twenty 313 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 4: two point six million dollars, I would be worried about that. Now, 314 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 4: let's think about all of those names, those those whatever 315 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 4: it was thirty four names that there's actually more names 316 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 4: than that, but I could have come up with seventy. 317 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 4: But there were some that I was just questionable about. 318 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 4: But let's think about the thirty four that I named. 319 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 4: They have incurred tens of millions of dollars in legal fees, 320 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 4: and not just legal fees oftentimes, if you're you know, 321 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 4: I used to tell clients this, I want to go 322 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 4: sue somebody because they you know, they said something bad 323 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 4: about me or they did something wrong. And I'd look 324 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 4: at them and I go, Okay, you know what, this 325 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 4: is something where you can probably win the case, but 326 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 4: the damages are going to be minimal. So let's say 327 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 4: that the damages are going to be let's just say 328 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 4: five thousand dollars. Yeah, I can probably collect five thousand 329 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 4: dollars for you. Are you willing to spend you know, 330 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 4: several days off work because you're gonna have to go 331 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 4: do depositions? And trust me that every time a deposition 332 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 4: is scheduled, oh we're gonna spend a couple of hours 333 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 4: and depositions, it never is a couple of hours in depositions. 334 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 4: It's always longer than that. You've got breaks, you have objections, 335 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 4: you got sidebars, you got everything going on, or then 336 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 4: you actually go to a trial. We all the trials 337 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 4: scheduled for five days, so this five days. You can't 338 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 4: just say, hey, judge, you know what. I know, this 339 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 4: is my case and I know I sued them, but 340 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 4: I can't afford not to go to work because I'll 341 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 4: lose my job. So you know, I don't using my 342 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 4: vacation or sick days, so I'm not gonna be in 343 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 4: the courtroom. The judge are gonna make no, then I'm 344 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 4: gonna dismiss the case. You're gonna be here, so you 345 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 4: have to take off time for work. These people are 346 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 4: no different. They're no different. You think about, oh, what's 347 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 4: in the Sydney out the lawyer from wherever she was 348 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 4: from down South, She really couldn't practice much law while 349 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 4: she's trying to defend herself in a criminal court case. 350 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 4: So she's missing that income in addition to having to 351 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 4: spend all the income to go defend herself in a 352 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 4: criminal case. So they have They've incurred tens of millions 353 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 4: of dollars in legal fees, and they have lost tens 354 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 4: of millions of dollars in lost income. The personal hardship, 355 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 4: the emotional toll that it takes. I'm just telling you, 356 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 4: as you know you don't believe me, as the Capitalist 357 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 4: this afternoon, what it's like for someone to have to 358 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 4: go through a case. Even if you're on the winning side, 359 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 4: Even if you're one of Capitalist's clients, and you're more 360 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 4: likely than not going to win and you're going to 361 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 4: have a nice payday at the end, that still you've 362 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 4: got to relive everything that caused, you know, the death 363 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 4: of the loved one. You've got to go through all 364 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 4: of that. Criminal case is no different except there's one 365 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 4: big difference, and that is you face the possibility of 366 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 4: losing your freedom. So they live in fear for themselves 367 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 4: and their family that one day their political views might 368 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 4: land them in prison. Why was all of this done? 369 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 4: It was all done in an effort to keep Trump 370 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 4: from effectively governing in Trump one point zero, and we 371 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 4: often forget trying to keep him from running in twenty 372 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 4: twenty four. Now, you probably recognize the two names that 373 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 4: I read to you at the end, James Comy and 374 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 4: Letitia James. But not included in that list are all 375 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 4: of the witnesses forced to incur legal fees, and they 376 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 4: had to incur financial hardships in responding to subpoenas. They're 377 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 4: sitting for interrogations by partisan prosecutors. They had the well 378 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 4: funded Lawfair. They had Norm Eisen. Norm Eisen that you 379 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 4: heard talking over on MSNBC comparing you know Trump's to Stalin. 380 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 4: Really show me the man and I'll find you the crime. 381 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 4: Norm Eisen is one of those who funded and engaged 382 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 4: and practiced the law Fair against Trump. He and his 383 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 4: team worked with Democrats in Congress all the time to 384 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 4: go after Trump. And then there he is on MSNBC 385 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 4: having the audacity that. 386 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 3: Cahon needs to talk about Stalin. 387 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 4: When Donald Trump says that partisan miscreants behind the efforts 388 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 4: targeting him and his supporters have got to be held 389 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 4: accountable for their actions, those comments are made not just 390 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 4: on behalf of himself, but everybody else who's gotten caught 391 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 4: up in the circle of Donald Trump. Now, most of 392 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 4: the individ had their worlds turned upside down by the 393 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 4: decisions of people like Jack Smith, who we talked about 394 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 4: earlier this week, Alvin Bragg, Letitia James, Fanny Willis. 395 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 3: Now I want you to think about some of them. 396 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 4: Fanny Willis does George's Supreme Court has said, you know what, 397 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 4: you cannot proceed. In fact, you can't get anywhere near 398 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 4: this case. That case is probably dead and it's dead 399 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 4: in the water. But what was she doing. She's virtually 400 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 4: lost her career in an effort to use law fair 401 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 4: to unjustly go after Donald Trump, you know, which reminds me. 402 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 4: That's the other thing I would tell clients, are you 403 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 4: willing to risk? Because as Huey Long says, there is 404 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 4: always something? Do you really want to go sit for 405 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 4: a deposition where they can ask you about anything and everything? 406 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 4: Now that it may not be admissible in court, but 407 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 4: in a deposition it is. So mister Smith, how do 408 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 4: you and Sally Jones get along? Does missus Smith know 409 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 4: about Sally Jones? Fanny Willis? Suddenly we find out about 410 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 4: her and her boyfriend. The guy that has no experience 411 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 4: in rico prosecution whatsoever, is now appointed a special counsel 412 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 4: to prosecute her Rico. Okay, he's against Donald Trump and 413 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 4: that relationship. I'm laughing to myself because it blows up 414 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 4: in court. So her zeal to go after Donald Trump 415 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 4: is costing her her career. 416 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 3: But so far, only Comy. 417 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 4: And Laticia James have been put under a microscope of 418 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 4: a federal criminal charge only two versus thirty four or 419 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 4: depending on how you count, maybe up to seventy. Now, 420 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 4: how's that going to affect Comy and Latitia James? 421 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 2: Today? Is Jay seventeen of the government shutdown? 422 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 3: How's there we be holding. 423 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 2: Out barely making it through. 424 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 4: I don't know now is the fact is this working? 425 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 4: Is this government controlled microphone working? 426 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 2: I was thankfully able to go to Chick fil A 427 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 2: though yesterday, Oh. 428 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 4: You know what, since I don't have time to finish 429 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 4: this now, can we do the Chick fil A thing 430 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 4: right now? 431 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 3: Can we do that? 432 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 4: So yesterday we did. There was a story about Chick 433 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 4: fil a French fries and how the waffle fries have 434 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 4: now been there. Well, they're just crappy. So Dragon was 435 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 4: on a mission. You know, he only volunteers for the things. 436 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 4: You know, most people volunteer to, you know, go save 437 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 4: their country. He goes to save the fries. 438 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 2: I do what I can. Yeah, we came out because 439 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: we were talking about women can't make a decisions and then 440 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,959 Speaker 2: you don't even know what you want for dinner. Then 441 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 2: they got a lot of food. Then yeah, I brought 442 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 2: up the Chick fil a fries. They're just really crappy 443 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: now and soggy and un you're done. 444 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 4: And I had not heard that, And so I go 445 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 4: on to some AI platform and find out that, oh 446 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 4: my gosh, there's a whole. 447 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 2: Controversy over a lot of text message came in said 448 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: the same thing, and you know, you can't even ask 449 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 2: them to make the fries crispy, And like, you know what, 450 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to do that experiment on my own. 451 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 2: So yesterday, yeah, after my workout, around three forty five, 452 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 2: almost four o'clock, I go to the Chick fil A 453 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 2: off a Parker drive up. The parking lot's practically empty 454 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 2: because it's not lunchtime, it's not dinner time. Smack dab 455 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 2: in the middle of those two times, and you want. 456 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 4: To make sure that there was that you weren't asking 457 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 4: for something that they would obviously say, know, because they're 458 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 4: trying to keep everything moving. 459 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 2: Busy, we're not gonna do that right now. I got. 460 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 2: So it's like, all right, I know the fast food industry. 461 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: I know, it's like this is the perfect time I 462 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: pull up, Like I said, there's nobody in the parking lot. 463 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: There's one car in the two lane two lane drivers 464 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 2: like all right, this is a perfect time. I go. 465 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: I walk in rather than you know, clog up the drive. Yeah, 466 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 2: and you go through the drivet, which I. 467 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 3: Thank you for your sacrifice. Did you actually had to 468 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 3: get your ass? 469 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: It's difficult. So I go inside and there's one family, 470 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: you know, a father and a son in the corner 471 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 2: eating and meat. And that's it. It's perfect. So I 472 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 2: walk up to the counter. I was like, yeah, hey, 473 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 2: can I get a you know, number one large fries 474 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: and you know, an orange orange soda? Please? 475 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 7: Oh? 476 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 2: Also, could you could you like make the fries extra 477 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 2: crispy for me? The last time they've just been a 478 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: little blat And he's like, yeah, we don't do that, 479 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 2: we don't offer that anymore. I was like, that's a 480 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: real bummer, man, it used to be really good. He's like, yeah, 481 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: Krispy fries with my go to and unfortunately it's become 482 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: a real big thing around here. 483 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 4: And when he told me that, I thought, wow, it's 484 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 4: become a really big thing here. 485 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 3: Now do you want to take bets on how long? Now? 486 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 4: Remembers Pea starts. They're now ripping them in peace starts 487 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 4: or something. And you said that you actually had. 488 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: To pull some apart right there. You know how sometimes 489 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 2: that the waffles can get stuck together and everything. So 490 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: I pulled those apart and they were practically raw. They 491 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: just I don't feel like that they cook them long enough, 492 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 2: so that I was like, hey, can you make in crispy. 493 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: He's like, nah, it's a whole big thing. And he 494 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 2: kind of sheepishly looked around because you know, they've got 495 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 2: the staff of thirty people are just serving the you know, 496 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 2: the two people that were in there. 497 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 3: Now it's kind of becoming a thing. 498 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, So what they taste like? 499 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 3: Did they taste different? 500 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean the past couple of times that we've 501 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 2: gone there, they're just they're just underdone and it just 502 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 2: doesn't taste like the normal Chick fil A waffle fries. 503 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 4: Could you tell whether or not the I mean, was 504 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 4: the peace starch. Obviously the peace starch is because it 505 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 4: comes from yellow peas, so it's not gonna be you know, 506 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 4: like your fies aren't green. 507 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 2: I will say that they are not golden like they 508 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: used to be. They're not. They're still there's still like 509 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 2: yellow and potato looking, but when things get get you know, deep, 510 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 2: they get that little golden brown and just they just 511 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 2: weren't that done. 512 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 3: This is the new coke? 513 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 2: Isn't without them saying it's the new coke? It really 514 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 2: feels like it. And then to that one cash year, 515 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 2: he was like, yeah, it's kind of become a thing. 516 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 4: So that tells me that obviously you weren't the first 517 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 4: guy that's ever gone here and asked for, Hey, can 518 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 4: I get my fries crispy this night? 519 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: And the fact that he said, yeah, we used to 520 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 2: offer that, but we don't. Now it's become a thing. 521 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 2: It's like, oh. 522 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 4: Okie, and here's what here's what bothers me. So you know, 523 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 4: I said yesterday, I used to be like, you know, 524 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 4: a platinum guy on the on the Chick Filight app 525 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 4: But then I just kind of quit going for some reason. 526 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 4: I don't know why, because I was too busy doing 527 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 4: other stuff. But and I said, I kind of crave 528 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 4: a Chick fil A sandwich and have we've talked about it, 529 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 4: and now you've kind of persuaded me, or not getting 530 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 4: persuaded me. You have kind of made me think rethink, 531 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 4: do I really want to go now? 532 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 2: Well, the sandwich was still delicious change of the sandwiches. 533 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 4: It's the combination of the waffle fries and the sandwich 534 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 4: that makes a Chick fil a America. He can't keep 535 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 4: effing steing up up like this. 536 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 3: You got to stop it, stop it.