1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: LISIESR. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: Do we even know how to handle Prosperity Leader Fan 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 2: Fan Radio Network okay en k fa N dot com. 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: Two minutes and thirty one seconds past three Central Standard time, 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: we welcome you back. 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: It is a midweek. 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: Wednesday edition of the Bumper to Bumper program on a 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: well getting decidedly by the hour more frigid Wednesday afternoon 9 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 2: here in the Twin Cities of Minneapolis. 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: And Saint Paul. Guardsy produces the program. 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: My name is Dan Barrero, former instane Retch newspaper. 12 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: Of the Twin Cities. 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: We are delighted that you are along for at least 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: a part of what could end up being an extremely 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: bumpy ride between now and Guardsy tells me six o'clock today. 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: It's a three hour. 17 00:00:53,080 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: Tour today preempted a bit early for Golden Gopher men's basketball. 18 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: It's our big ten lidlifter correct for the two thousand 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: and twenty five twenty six season. We're playing a football 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: school against the I believe Indiana is undefeated in football 21 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: and basketball. 22 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: The Hoosiers lost in basketball. 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 2: They haven't played like the a loaded schedule, but I 24 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: don't think they've lost a game yet. We know Indiana 25 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: football hasn't lost a game yet, they have not big 26 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: ten title games coming up this week. 27 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: I mean, who knew? Who knew that. 28 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: Indiana University is now one of the blue bloods, as 29 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: we like to say in the business, one of the 30 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: blue bloods. So that is why we're out at six o'clock. 31 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: Eventually I'll get my verification code in and we will 32 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: get to the branch on Brian kfe In text line 33 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:51,279 Speaker 2: as well. More on that later in the broadcast it does. 34 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: This is sort of a follow up to how I 35 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: started the program yesterday, where I mused during our Toys 36 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: for Tots events event at Shields and Eden Prairie, thank 37 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: you for your participation and your generosity. So which cataclysmic 38 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: Vikings game do I have to think about today to 39 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: start to show it's got nothing to do with the 40 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: Vikings in this case, and it's really the other end 41 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: of the spectrum. As I said, the question yesterday is 42 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 2: whether deep down Vikings fans, despite all the moaning and 43 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: whining and complaining, that you do actually prefer to keep 44 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: that as your identity, that you wouldn't know what to 45 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: do if you couldn't do what you just did already 46 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: whine and moan and complain and a poor, poor, pitiful me, 47 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: because right now we are in a prosperous situation when 48 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 2: it comes to goaltending in the National Hockey League. You know, 49 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: we always complain about the trades that we screw up, 50 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: or we look at other teams who are able to 51 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 2: seemingly steal a player or steal a spot in the 52 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: draft and then prosper for the next five to ten 53 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 2: to fifteen to twenty years as a result of it. 54 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: Right now, we're that team. Right now, we're the ones 55 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: who are reaping the benefits of a draft day maneuver 56 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 2: that allowed your Minnesota while to move up. I believe 57 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: it was two spots three drafts ago. Was it three 58 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: drafts to go? 59 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: Or four? 60 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty one? So I guess that'd be well, they'd 61 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: be coming up on more than that and secure the 62 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: opportunity to draft mister Volstett, who pitched I believe his 63 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: fourth shutout in is it six games or is it 64 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: eight games? 65 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: I have to check out. 66 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: I had it in front of me, and I lost 67 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: the I forgot to bring my print out last night. 68 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: At the expense of Edmonton and the hockey inside and 69 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: hardcorees know this, but the hockey casuals might not. That's 70 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: the team we made the pick, the trade within. 71 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: I did not know that until last night. 72 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: Their pick at number twenty that we stole. And for 73 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 2: the record, if you if you want to further talk 74 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: about how we are prospering, my understanding is the player 75 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: they took a twenty two isn't even I think has 76 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: already been traded away from the team, and the extra 77 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: the third round pick we had to give up to 78 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: move up to spots. 79 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: In addition, I don't think he's ever even played with 80 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: the club. 81 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 2: I don't think he's a factor at all. Now, big picture, 82 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: I'm not sure that that we can declare volst At 83 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 2: the best goaltender in the history of hockey, or at 84 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 2: the very least even yet the history. 85 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: Of the Minnesota Wild might be the way. 86 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: It's a long way from here to there, but all 87 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 2: of the signs are quite positive so and promising certainly 88 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: so to that extent, we're that team right now. 89 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: We are that franchise. 90 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: We'd identified a player and a goalie who and I 91 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: guess I'd forgotten this part. 92 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: He was not. 93 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 2: Universally loved at the time of the draft, there were 94 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: some people who thought he had a chance to be special. 95 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 2: There were other people as young as he was who 96 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: thought he was going to be a disaster, that he 97 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: wasn't mature enough, that there were In fact, he articulated 98 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: some of those raps against him. He felt they were false, 99 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 2: But he got into that last night after pitching the 100 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 2: shutout against Edmonton. Now it is fair to say, though 101 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,239 Speaker 2: even the Wild admit he's made some changes since last 102 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: season that they feel a team officials feel have contributed 103 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 2: to his turnaround this season, including better conditioning, which was 104 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: one of the charges against him back during that draft. 105 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 2: But we don't have to in this case wallow in 106 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: our misery like, oh god, look what that team did. 107 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: They got they found. 108 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: Their goaltender maybe for the next ten years by just 109 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: moving up in the draft. 110 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: Why can't we ever do that? Well we did in 111 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: this case. 112 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: We have, and last night it crystallized nicely that the shutout, 113 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: in this case, his fourth, would come against the team 114 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: that apparently had no interest in him. Perfectly and by 115 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: the way, a franchise that is desperately continues to be 116 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 2: desperately in need of a goaltender as well. 117 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: So we like to think, well, that's us. 118 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 2: Usually we're the team that gave up or gave up 119 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: a draft choice, or allowed another team to move the 120 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: leap frog, us to take a player that we weren't 121 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: interested in. 122 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: Look what that players doing. We're on the other end 123 00:06:58,800 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: of that. 124 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 2: Now it's in Edmonton where they feel like they're the 125 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 2: victims there what now? 126 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: Of course it's all relative. 127 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 2: They've had a lot of success as a team, but 128 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: they haven't been able to take the last step, have they? 129 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: And part of the reason, allegedly is because they can't 130 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: find a big time goaltender. Fourth shutout in his last 131 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: six games, and Edmonton, I mean they tested him last night. 132 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: You had to make thirty three. 133 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: I watched about the last period and a half of 134 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: that one after a scintillating overtime victory for your Minnesota 135 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: Timberwolves in New Orleans, the always plucky New Orleans Pelicans, 136 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: and even like listening to Lapanta. Lapanta is very excitable, right, 137 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: he's he can get the octaves going. I think he's 138 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: so used to these epic saves by the Great Wall 139 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: of Saint Paul that it's just second nature now to 140 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: go another saved by Valstad kicks it away, a lot 141 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: of activity up front, No problem saved Walstad. 142 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: Here we go. 143 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: We're going the other way because that's all he's watched 144 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: basically for the last ten games of his plays. 145 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: Pretty fun. It's it's great. 146 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: Because you can't say the Wild had the better of play. 147 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: You know, we've always talked about that. Yeah, especially in 148 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: the playoffs. Well we dominated their goalie just played better. 149 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: Now it's happening in the opposite too. That's the other 150 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: way that this has changed, which is fun. People say, 151 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 2: I can't say they played great the whole time. They 152 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: obviously got the goal that they needed brodein, which was funny. 153 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: But you have goaltenders that are you have a goaltender 154 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: that's basically either stealing you games, but certainly keeping you 155 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: in games while you find your own game, which is 156 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: a fun place to live. He is the fourth rookie 157 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: goaltender in the history of the league, and the first 158 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 2: in eighty seven years to pitch four shutouts in six games. 159 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: Can you name any of the others? I probably can't. 160 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: I probably shouldn't try. I couldn't. Although I liked the 161 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 2: nickname of the Boston Bruins goalie who did it most 162 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 2: recent in nineteen twenty eight on the nineteen twenty twenty 163 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 2: nine Boston Bruins. 164 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: Oh goodness, Tiny Thompson. Tiny Thompson. 165 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: Now does that mean Tiny was literally tiny or was 166 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 2: it the opposite? The tiny was actually an enormous goaltender 167 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: for the time. Yeah, and so the nickname was against 168 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 2: type Tiny Thompson. His pads were probably bigger than nah 169 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: yeah ja ja's. They were probably bigger the others. Frank 170 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: we Actually the most recent is Frank Brimseck. Bruins Tiny Thompson. 171 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: Uh did it in nineteen twenty eight twenty nine. Somebndy 172 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: named Dolly Dolson did it for the nineteen twenty eight 173 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: twenty nine Detroit Cougars. 174 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: Oh interesting, the Detroit Cougar's. I didn't know they were 175 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: a team. 176 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: Tiny wasn't very big. He was only five to ten, 177 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: so they were being literal. Well, but I bet you 178 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: five point ten then I think that was pretty been 179 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: pretty tall. Yeah, don't you think? I don't know how 180 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: was he how much did he weigh? Do we know? 181 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 2: I don't see this weighed in? There was it like, 182 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: you know, like one hundred and sixty pounds. Well that 183 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: is pretty tiny then, isn't it. 184 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: I think so. 185 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: Maybe they meant it literally in that game back in 186 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: the twenties. They told the truth. I like the John 187 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: Hines quote too. He's he's I think he's k telling 188 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: it a little bit. Here's this was his comment after 189 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: the game. You need to have consistency, and each month 190 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: presents different challenges. There's still a lot of hockey left 191 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 2: to be played. What's encouraging is that he had a 192 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 2: good offseason, made some real commitments to show he wants 193 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: to be able to get the best out of himself. 194 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 2: We know he has NHL talent, but now he's learning 195 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: the other parts, whether it was the game or being 196 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 2: a starting goalie, or how important sometimes some things around 197 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 2: the game are, whether it's nutrition, your rest, recovery. Practice 198 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 2: is a big win. Let's keep taking it in short 199 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: spurts with him, and as long as he continues to 200 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: do what he's doing, he'll get an opportunity to play. 201 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: That sounds like a coach who is well aware of 202 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: his goalie's history and he doesn't want him to get 203 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: the big head too fast, doesn't it. It sounds like 204 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: he's yeah for sure. Again, this is great, This is wonderful, 205 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: This is in some ways historic, and we'll ride it out. 206 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: He's already, I mean, the head coach has already acknowledged 207 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: how well he's doing because he's gone from having him 208 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: as a backup goalie to to gus boss to now 209 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 2: we're going every other game. Right, Basically we're alternating goaltenders 210 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 2: for the for the president and perhaps the immediate future 211 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: as well. So Tiny Thompson, by the way, was the 212 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: tallest player on his team as a teenager. That's why 213 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: they gave him the nickname Tiny, so at the time 214 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 2: it was ironic. Yeah, he played at times for the 215 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 2: Duluth Hornets, even local. Right, this is the second time 216 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: something like this has happened for a Minnesota led goaltender. 217 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 2: I love this Discovery Radio. We had no I had 218 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 2: no idea any Thompson. Yeah, he was kind of one 219 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 2: of us for a while. Millers, that's that's too good. 220 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: So again, we don't have a banner out of this yet. 221 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: I understand all of that, but it's the perfect kind 222 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: of angle and that we wallow in our misery that 223 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 2: why can't we ever steal somebody? Well, right now, it 224 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: looks like they stole somebody from a franchise desperately in 225 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: need for a goaltender. And as it turns out, what 226 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: we gave up was not nearly enough. Basically, we had 227 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: to give up our own one. You know, we swept 228 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: swap spots, and we give up a number three. And 229 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 2: that all looks very very good, very very promising right now, 230 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 2: And again, not so long ago, it didn't look like 231 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: anything because it didn't look like he was going anywhere. 232 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: But maybe it's the classic light bulb off in the head. 233 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this question as we go to 234 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:49,359 Speaker 2: break two. So if you if you believe the most 235 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: I believe the most important position in hockey is goalie. 236 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: Sure it's not going out on a limb. Other people 237 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 2: might say center, you know, scoring, so whatever, But I 238 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: would say goal We can we say check that box 239 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: right now. Okay, in football we would assume it's quarterback. 240 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: We can't check that box right now. What player in baseball? Like, 241 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: what position in baseball? For me, it's pitcher. It used 242 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: to be starting. I would say, still starting pitcher. We 243 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: have a chance to semi check that box. But we're 244 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 2: apparently wanting to erase one of the checks at least one, 245 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: at least one, maybe both of them correct and maybe 246 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 2: with bux it on the way as well for an 247 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: everyday player. And then what support am I leaving out basketball? 248 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 2: What what's considered the box you need to check in basketball? 249 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: What position? Is it a position? It's probably just get 250 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: you a bucket, it's is it? 251 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 2: I mean, one would assume it's what Anthony Edwards represents. 252 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: I think so it is very better. 253 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: It was about a time it might have been point guard, 254 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: but the league has changed a little bit on that. 255 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,599 Speaker 2: Give me your thoughts on that via the branch on 256 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: brykafean text line six four six eighty six will set 257 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 2: up the rest of the program as well when we. 258 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 3: Come back. 259 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: And Ronnie Lang Guy Wrights, I think basketball's most important 260 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: player is a two way guy, regardless of position. 261 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: Slightly expand out. 262 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: Baseball is up the middle, catcher, shortstop, center field, football, 263 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 2: center or line, quarterback, hockey, goalie, and center. Basketball needs 264 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: two or three. 265 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: Star wings. 266 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: I think he's trying to say, or center, power forward. 267 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: That's from four of the five positions. Yeah, Hugo guy, Well, 268 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: maybe he's just those. 269 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm a little confused by by that one. 270 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: NBA's most important position is an ownership is ownership, and 271 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: GM goes out and gets the best players, pays the 272 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: most star players, run the show, Sga, Joker and ant. 273 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: I think Oklahoma City has still only lost one game. 274 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: They're twenty in one. Yeah, I think there are twenty 275 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: two in one, all right? Is that what it is now? 276 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: And the game they. 277 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: Lost shouldn't count because this is I think it was 278 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: the second night of a back to back in Portland, 279 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 2: so I'm surprised that the league is even counting that, 280 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: to be honest with you, twenty one and one, it's 281 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: twenty one in one, okaykind of split the difference. What's 282 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: our show lineup today? We got Mike Conley at the 283 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: bottom of the hour, correct, coming up about seven minutes 284 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 2: from now, and a Mason your face and studio between 285 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: four and five? 286 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: Is that correct? Yes, sir? 287 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: And then so we do think we're gonna get Kessler 288 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: on the way back. We're okay, yeah, I think we're 289 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: getting him. We're out at six tonight, as you mentioned 290 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: over hoops, so he would join at five pot fifteen. 291 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: There's a lot to get to with him. That's for sure. 292 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: Uh, so we'll try to get caught up if we 293 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 2: have a chance to with uh with special k Dan 294 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: opening with wild Hockey Talk Toys for Tots must have 295 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: put him in a holiday mood. We're just trying to 296 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: follow the story. I mean, it's not that difficult. What 297 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: I'm learning from the hockey community is that you're damned 298 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: if you do. 299 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: You're damned if you don't. 300 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 2: You know, if we don't start the show talking about 301 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: the red hot Minnesota Wild and the kid goaltender, it's 302 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: what you're going to talk about it today? When were 303 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: you going to talk about it? Then you talk about 304 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: what looks like you're jumping on the bandwagon. You know, 305 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: m's must be in a holiday spirit. Seriously, and you wonder, 306 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: hockey guys, why people accuse you of that much defensiveness. 307 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: It's just just just take the victory. Uh speaking of 308 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 2: victory six one two, guy, are you going to give 309 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 2: Billy Garrean any credit? 310 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: What was implied Garran made the pick? Didn't he? 311 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 2: I would imagine the trade and he was very specific 312 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 2: about the development. Yes of yesper correct. He talks about 313 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: it a lot like we can't he can't. He did 314 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 2: the old KOC organization's failed goalies more than goalies fail organizations. Yes, 315 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 2: that's why they kept him in Iowa and kind of 316 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: bounced him back and forth and didn't want to give 317 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 2: him too much too soon. You though, his debut last year, 318 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 2: if you remember, was a meat grinder. I think it 319 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 2: was Dallas, Yes. 320 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: It was. 321 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 2: Well, it's because we've screwed up. We screwed him up 322 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: going to the three, their three goalie system. 323 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: That's true. 324 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 2: Maybe I do remember vaguely he tried to get garon 325 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 2: going on that, but he was very particular about how 326 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: he should be brought along. That's true. Which that's true. 327 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 2: You're obviously he's not done yet. He just started. But 328 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 2: it's a good, good sign of how he's playing. And 329 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 2: that was all part of this. Uh, this is an 330 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: interesting this is Hugh, This is a Hue guy a 331 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 2: second time or actually first self awareness. Loved to hear 332 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 2: it from him last night postgame about his maturity level 333 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 2: or lack there of last year. 334 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: How quickly would. 335 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 2: The will the Minnesota hockey community get in his head 336 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: and mess him all up? 337 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: Wow? Is you guy? 338 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 2: Is that really a Johnny Athletic burner account? Do you 339 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: think I think they could be. I mean cause joh 340 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: who was complaining yet again about the inconsistency regarding commitment 341 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: to the defensive side of the floor of your Minnesota Timberwolves. 342 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 2: It was Johnny Athletic, Yeah, among others. Ain't no inconsistency 343 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: about the way the Wild is committing itself to defense 344 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: right now, sir, between the goaltenders and what's happening in 345 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: front of them as well. I don't believe I'll keep 346 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 2: the I'll keep some of the other texts in mind. 347 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 2: On mind I should say on key positions. I yeah, 348 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 2: basketball is a little funkier, but I'll tell you, man, 349 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 2: if everything feels better in hockey if you have big 350 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: time goaltending and in baseball if you have big time 351 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 2: starting pitching. 352 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: I don't care what anybody says. 353 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: I know about the up the middle stuff and that 354 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 2: it all fits together, But why do they matter? Because 355 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 2: they set the tone right almost regardless of what your 356 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 2: offense is doing. They can keep you in the game, 357 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 2: whether the game is hockey, goaltender or baseball starting pitcher. Right, 358 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: starting pitcher throws well. I was about to say eight 359 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 2: shutout innings. That's a different era, but it sets a 360 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 2: tone in a way that makes everything seem cleaner and 361 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 2: more possible, regardless of what you are doing offensively. Mike Conley, 362 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 2: point guard Minnesota Timberwolves, will get his reaction to a 363 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 2: couple of interesting things said by his head coach in 364 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,719 Speaker 2: the wake of the Wolves really way too messy, but 365 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 2: nevertheless crucial victory against the terrible Pelicans and more. 366 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 4: When we return, Randall sees two in the corner. 367 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: Steven Jenzo out to read extra pass. 368 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 3: Conley yes, corner pocket for Mike Conley from down ten, 369 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 3: top ten Wolves, one ten Spurs, one hundred, beautiful fall 370 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 3: movement and resultans in a Mike Conley wide open look. 371 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 2: As I mentioned, Glenn Mason will join in studio about 372 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 2: four o'clock or so, and then we expect to visit 373 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: with Pat Kesler. But Mike Conley just heard there. Our 374 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 2: favorite play by play guy hit a very key three 375 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 2: pointer against the Spurs to help save them in that game. 376 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 2: Joined us via the Connectico Water Systems hotline. I'm assuming, 377 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 2: what do you get three days in New Orleans? Is 378 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 2: that correct? Yeah? 379 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 5: Three days? 380 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: Are you a New war. 381 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: Would you classify yourself as a New Orleans guy? 382 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 5: I mean it's cool. I like the South, you speing 383 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 5: down this way. But you know, I have a good 384 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 5: time when I'm here. But yeah, I've been here so 385 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 5: many times now I probably stay in my room more 386 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 5: often than that. 387 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 2: Well, that's you know what, that's probably There's probably a 388 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 2: few players over the years Mike Conley have said that's 389 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: what I should have done, right, that's for sure. There 390 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 2: could be the occasional temptation in that regard. I want 391 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 2: to get to a quote. Get your reaction to a 392 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 2: quote from your head coach. I think he said this 393 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: before last night's game. Kind of started the season a 394 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 2: little bored. That's not something that you want to admit to. 395 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 2: But a team that's had two deep runs, I think 396 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 2: we just maybe started the season a little bit flat 397 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: and board and just realizing you got to put the 398 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 2: work in now. That might be just great honesty from 399 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: the head coach. You know, that's not something fans ever 400 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 2: want to hear. But is there some truth to that 401 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: or what do you make of those comments? 402 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 5: You know, I think it. You know, I'll say coach 403 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 5: has a good pulse of our team and understands, you know, 404 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 5: the ins and out of what we need to be 405 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 5: who we want to be for a season. But as players, 406 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 5: I think you come into every season and you come 407 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 5: in with the right mindset. You come in with you know, 408 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 5: you want to come out here and be the best 409 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 5: team you can be and individually and and as a whole. 410 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 5: And you know, I think making two big runs like 411 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 5: we did the last two seasons, you get shorter off seasons. 412 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 5: You you get you know, fixated on the idea of 413 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 5: getting back to that point so much that you can 414 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 5: bypass some of the smaller steps they get in the 415 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 5: way of that route of getting back to that situation. 416 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 5: And and we still have a lot of young guys, 417 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 5: We still have a lot of guys who you know, 418 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 5: are navigating that and it's in front of them, and 419 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 5: and and it takes time. You know, It's not something 420 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 5: that we take for granted at all that we think 421 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 5: that we just going to make it back. But you 422 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 5: can see how a lot of guys' minds are, you know, 423 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 5: wanting to get back to where we're at. But we 424 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 5: still have to do the work and stuff, have to 425 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 5: do the small things to get us there. 426 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: Does that all that make the Oklahoma City Thunder defending 427 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: champions twenty one and one an outlier. 428 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 5: It makes I mean, them being who they are is amazing. 429 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 5: It just goes down to, you know, the culture they have, 430 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 5: the players that they have acquired, the you know, the 431 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 5: way that team is put together, and Shay and all 432 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 5: those guys just buying into a way of playing. And 433 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 5: they do it every single night, regardless if it's the 434 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 5: fourteenth worst team or the you know, the second best 435 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 5: team in the league. Whoever they're playing that night. They 436 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 5: don't play the they don't play the opponent. They go 437 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 5: out there and implement their game no matter who they're 438 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 5: out there playing against. And and that's the impressive part 439 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 5: of what they're doing. 440 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: It is pretty astonishing for sure. 441 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 2: So last night it felt to me like it followed 442 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 2: a pattern. We've seen a few games where defense looked 443 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 2: very casual to me early and then you're on the 444 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 2: risk of encouraging a team with a terrible record that hey, 445 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,239 Speaker 2: maybe it's our night. I mean, we can we can 446 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: win a game, maybe we can steal a victory, and 447 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 2: then you guys got too got a lot more serious defensively. 448 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 2: Turn things as it was, it still felt very very 449 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: nerve wracking the way the thing played out. 450 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: What did you see last night? 451 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I think it was that was evident. 452 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: I thought we. 453 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 5: You know, we had stretches where we were trying to 454 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 5: do the right thing, but there was part of the 455 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 5: game we just were not able to get a hold 456 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 5: of early. And you know that was there, playing with 457 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 5: a lot of pace, and they were getting up and 458 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 5: down in transition and kind of beating us down the 459 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 5: floor before our defensive gets set and and that's how 460 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 5: they were kind of getting into a good rhythm. And 461 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,959 Speaker 5: once we kind of you know, lost the lead and 462 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 5: had to dare our way back into the game, I thought, 463 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 5: guys to start taking away those things, taking away the 464 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,959 Speaker 5: easy opportunities and and trying to create more physicality defensively 465 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 5: and impose our will offensively. And when both those things 466 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 5: are going our way, we start playing better basketball. 467 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 2: Well, you know, Edwards obviously had another hit a huge 468 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 2: second half. I think he was ten for sixteen from 469 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 2: the floor. What I liked the best was the tying 470 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 2: basket to the hoop, driving all the way in, didn't 471 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 2: take didn't take a fade away, which he can hit. 472 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 2: We all know he can hit a lot of shots. 473 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: He's he can hit for all over the place. But 474 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 2: I liked, I encourage that. I like to see more 475 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 2: of that, and I know sometimes the defenses take that away, 476 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: but I loved that he just went downhill and went 477 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 2: to the basket. 478 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, we told him at the time out man, you 479 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 5: got to get in the paint, you got to go 480 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 5: make a play. And he did just that, and and 481 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 5: that's exactly where we went from him. And there's so 482 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 5: many good things that happens. When he's able to get 483 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 5: downhill and get to the rim, they're going to have 484 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 5: to foul him to stop them most times, and if not, 485 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 5: he's going to finish. So he gave ourselves, gave our 486 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 5: give our team second life with that bucket, and gave 487 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 5: us a chance to win. 488 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: Mike Conley joining us. The Wolves have a day off. 489 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 2: They're gonna play the Pelicans again, I believe, tomorrow night. 490 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: So you know, it's interesting you've been around. We've talked 491 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: a lot over the years with you about how long 492 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: you've been in this league, and you're at a point 493 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: in your career now where if I feel like every 494 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 2: other week there's a there is speculation nationally speaking about Okay, 495 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 2: is this a point guard? The Wolves might consider it's 496 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: already coming up since Chris Paul was released, whether that 497 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 2: might be something that would would interest the Wolves. Are 498 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 2: you adult enough on this like you are about everything 499 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 2: else to say it's just it comes with the territory 500 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 2: or do you. 501 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: Take it more personally? 502 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: How do you process what seems to be this sort 503 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 2: of ongoing feeling of okay to the Wolves? 504 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: Are they gonna stand. 505 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 2: Pat or might they make a big move and supplement 506 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 2: themselves at the point guard position? Yeah? 507 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 5: No, I've always handled this this stuff like I handle everything. 508 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: Man. 509 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 5: I'm no stranger to being traded. I'm not a stranger 510 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 5: from being in the trade talks. For the majority of 511 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 5: my young career Memphis, I was there were drafting guards 512 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 5: every other year, and you know, I was on the 513 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 5: trade block early in my first two years, and so 514 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 5: it just became part of what I thought the NBA was. 515 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 5: So just handling that has always been a big thing 516 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 5: for me, and knowing that that'side of my control. I 517 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 5: go out there and play the minutes I play. I play, 518 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 5: you know, as hard as I can. If a team 519 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 5: wants me here, I'm here. If I'm not, I'll help 520 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 5: whoever I have to help. So it is part of 521 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 5: the it's a part of our society, our our game today, 522 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 5: and there's a lot of speculation every day on it 523 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 5: if you win or lose, or how your team looks 524 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 5: on a weekly basis. So just handling it, handle it, 525 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 5: handle it, and you know, just trying to, you know, 526 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 5: take control of what I can. 527 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: Would you still in your herder hearts rather be starting. 528 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 5: You know, as a competitor. Yeah, I think everybody wants 529 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 5: to be a starter in the league. But for our team, honestly, 530 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 5: I think I'm I'm in the right spot. I think 531 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 5: I am. I think I'm I'm you know, Dante and 532 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 5: that group is playing really well together. They play off 533 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 5: each other very well, and I think it's best for 534 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 5: our team, so you know. But yeah, so I'm happy, 535 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 5: excited for all the guys, and I'm still excited for 536 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 5: the opportunity I have right now and as soon keep 537 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 5: trying to go forward with it and and get better 538 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 5: with it each week. 539 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 2: One of the tough things I think for I think 540 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: one of the places where it's challenging for Finchy to 541 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 2: thread the needle though, is who to play at the 542 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: end of the game. We've had some as you know, 543 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 2: with two three minutes to go, some meltdowns where there 544 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: have been there a series of bad turnovers or maybe 545 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: a couple of dumb fouls, maybe a couple of miss 546 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 2: free throws that all contribute to big leads evaporating, and 547 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 2: in Fincy's world, he may say, Okay, well, this is 548 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: the lineup that largely got us the lead, so therefore 549 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 2: I want to kind of stick with it. And sometimes 550 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 2: that means you're not on the floor, and I still 551 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: feel like they miss what I think at your best 552 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 2: you represent in those situations where you're the guy who's 553 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 2: going to likely you know, get the inbounds pass, get 554 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: the ball from out of bounds. I still think that's 555 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 2: that's that's part of the challenge for for for Fincy, 556 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 2: even if, as you say, in terms of balancing the lineups, 557 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 2: that might make more sense at this point for you 558 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: to come off the bench. 559 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,959 Speaker 5: What do you think, Well, yeah, I think you know, 560 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 5: coach Coach is going to make the right decisions at 561 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 5: the end of the game. And some games I'm in there. 562 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 5: Some some games I'm not as obvious. Obviously, when when 563 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 5: I am in there, I'm trying to you know, manage 564 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 5: the game in a lot of different ways, and in 565 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 5: be in that voice, understanding time and score, not letting 566 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 5: us lose our minds over stuff, and kind of resettling 567 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 5: things down. Is what I can really really provide for 568 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 5: the unit we have is, you know, a lot of 569 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 5: the guys out there maybe not be in their true 570 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 5: position and not having to bring the ball up in 571 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 5: uncomfortable positions or in an uncomfortable situation. So just trying to, 572 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 5: you know, when I do get the opportunity to be 573 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 5: out there, is to be as much help as I can. 574 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 5: And when I'm not out there, just you know, on 575 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 5: the bench, just guiding those guys and trying to prepare 576 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 5: them and trying to make sure that they have everything 577 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 5: in front of them to help hopefully minimize, you know, 578 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 5: any more mistakes that we have going forward, especially this season. 579 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 2: A texture named Linwood Township Guy wants to know from you, well, 580 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 2: why doesn't ant get the calls of the superstars good? 581 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 2: Or is the contact minimal? And he just wants every 582 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: touch to be a file. I'll broaden the question out 583 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 2: this way. I've always felt there is an art to 584 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 2: attracting file calls, and some players just get better at 585 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 2: it than others, and we can you know, as you know, 586 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: Gildas Alexander is a good example. Some people feel like 587 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 2: he pushes off subtly with that left arm on almost 588 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 2: every drive to the basket and gets way too many 589 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 2: calls that should have actually go the other way. I 590 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 2: look at it in part is why I think he 591 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,959 Speaker 2: is good at drawing contact as well. Give me your 592 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 2: assessment of where Ant is in the area of drawing 593 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: contact and what goes into a really gifted player adding 594 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: that to his arsenal. 595 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I think that's something that Ant is still 596 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 5: working on. He hasn't made that that much of a 597 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 5: he hasn't put that much of a priority on that 598 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 5: part of the game. For himself. He's he's a pure 599 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 5: scorer man. He can score in so many ways, and 600 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 5: he's you know, matches so many levels of scoring that 601 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 5: he's not looking ever to get a foul. He's looking 602 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 5: to go score. And I think that's a difference. You 603 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 5: get Luca, you get Shay and these guys who are 604 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 5: playing games, they're playing the mind game. They're playing the 605 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 5: leverage game and checking where your hands are at, seeing 606 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 5: if your arms are out. What they can reach for 607 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 5: what they can you know, kind of run into and 608 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 5: and and get two free throws here and there to 609 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 5: kind of rest of the free throw line, those things 610 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 5: that the you know, ant's gonna have to learn, you know, 611 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 5: to kind of throw that in there here and there 612 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 5: if he wants to start to get these same type 613 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 5: of calls. Because an it's just too strong to too, 614 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 5: you know, physically gifted that he gets hit on the 615 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 5: wrist or arm, he just goes right through it and 616 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 5: goes and lays it up or goes and try to 617 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 5: finish it, while other guys might you know, lose the 618 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 5: ball or you know, it's it's more obvious foul. So 619 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 5: he's it's kind of like the gift and the curse 620 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 5: for him. He's so gifted that he's able to score 621 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 5: such a pure manner that he doesn't kind of get 622 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 5: into the the gimmicky side of things. But it's become 623 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 5: part of the art of basketball and getting to the freak. 624 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 5: The line is a big, big part of scoring nowadays. 625 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've always wondered too if if body type enters 626 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 2: into it. Obviously Gildas Alexander is slighter. I think Edwards 627 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: is built to me almost more like a football player, 628 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 2: you know, and that used to be always the dealon Shack. 629 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 2: There's a lot of people felt that Shack actually should 630 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 2: have gotten a lot more calls, but because he was 631 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 2: a big body, that that that the rest didn't give 632 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 2: him the benefit of the doubt. 633 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: And I just an't. 634 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 2: To me, looks better built, almost like he can handle 635 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 2: the contact. That's not a reason to not call it. 636 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: But sometimes I wonder if that enters into the decision 637 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 2: making when it's but you know, between a player built 638 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 2: like him and let's say a bit of a you know, leaner, 639 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 2: uh more willowy player. 640 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, I think that that's happened, you know, 641 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 5: in the past, with even guys like Lebron. You said 642 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 5: Shack like Lebron's probably the most recent example where you 643 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 5: get him going downhill and guys are pulling and grabbing, slapping, 644 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 5: and he's just running through you and land it up 645 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 5: or dunking it and there's no foul called. In most guys, 646 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 5: that probably is a foul call, and it's kind of 647 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 5: scratching that territory where he gets downhill and he takes 648 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 5: off or he exposes his arms in the paint and 649 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 5: gets slapped a few times. They're not, you know, going 650 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 5: to call it unless he loses the ball. But unfortunately 651 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 5: he's not going to lose the ball. He's strong, he's 652 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 5: got great hands, and and he's still able to finish 653 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 5: through a lot of those plays. So you know, like 654 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 5: I said, that's that kind of gift from the curse 655 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 5: of having that that body type. And as far as 656 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 5: the referee calls and stuff like that's concerned, but it's 657 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 5: something that he will hopefully continue to get better at 658 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 5: and study it and something that he can add to 659 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:42,439 Speaker 5: his game. 660 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 2: One last thing about the current state of the club 661 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 2: itself is one of the team leaders and the consciences 662 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 2: of this club. 663 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: Are you. 664 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 2: Are you satisfied with the position that this team is 665 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 2: in at this point? Are you saying, no, we we 666 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 2: should have x a better record? How do you decide, 667 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 2: you know, when to come down hard laying out your 668 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,959 Speaker 2: own views as one of the player leaders of where 669 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 2: this this thing is at and when do you sort of, 670 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 2: you know, bide your time and let the thing play out. 671 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: A little bit? 672 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 2: What what would you if somebody had not watched your 673 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 2: team all season thus far? See I I haven't seen 674 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 2: anything of the Wolves. What would you say the condition 675 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 2: to the club is at this point. 676 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 5: You know, I would say that the so far has 677 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 5: just been inconsistent. I would say because from our are 678 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 5: from what we you know, believe our standard to be 679 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 5: on a nightly basis, we haven't brought that on a 680 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 5: game to game basis. And we've done it for a 681 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 5: four game stretch here and there, and then you know, 682 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 5: take a game or two or we don't look like ourselves, 683 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 5: or you throw in like a Phoenix game or a 684 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 5: Sack game, or games where we had in control and 685 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 5: and still lost, and and and it kind of puts 686 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 5: a sour taste and and and what we're you know 687 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,240 Speaker 5: building at the moment, and and so it's it's easy 688 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 5: for that to overs at the things we're we're doing 689 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 5: good and the things that we're you know, changing and accomplishing. 690 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 5: So I said, it has been inconsistent, but I think 691 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 5: it's the building blocks of doing the smaller things more 692 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 5: consistently and doing the things that helped affect winning. I'm 693 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 5: both into the floor from everybody has been picking up, 694 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 5: you know, and headed in the right direction, you know, 695 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 5: every week. And the record is the record, Yeah, we 696 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 5: feel like we should have a couple more wins obviously 697 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 5: with you know, blown leads, latent games and stuff like that. 698 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 5: But outside that, the direction that we're headed, I think 699 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 5: is the right one. 700 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 2: Last, but most importantly, we got to, I guess, try 701 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 2: to delve into your handshake history, because I'm learning that 702 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 2: you basically have a handshake, a different handshake for every player. Well, 703 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 2: tell me the history here, whether this has been true 704 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 2: every place you've played, if this is something new here? 705 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 2: Uh and and and so how did all this stuff 706 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 2: come about? 707 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 5: And I've had a handshake with people. I got some 708 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 5: people for like twenty years. Man, I've got handshakes the 709 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 5: day back a long time. And it's always been just 710 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 5: a part of my deal. Like if I'm if we're 711 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 5: gonna be teammates, we're gonna be on the court together, Like, 712 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 5: you gotta have a handshake with me. So I even 713 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 5: got Yoan to get a handshake with me the other day. 714 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 5: So he's he's probably my newest one. But I just 715 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 5: try to, you know, build a personal connection with everybody 716 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 5: is something that you know, regardless of our teammates or not, 717 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 5: the first thing we see each other, you know, it's 718 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 5: just like like muscle memory. So just a cool, cool 719 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 5: way to keep everybody kind of together. 720 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 2: Well, I see, my memory is so bad though, I'd 721 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 2: have trouble remembering them all. I mean, you were it's 722 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 2: it's easy for you to remember the distinctions between each 723 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 2: and every one of them. You never screw up and 724 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 2: mix up, you know, ants with randalls or anything like that. 725 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 5: Never, it's a weird thing. It's like, I don't know, 726 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 5: it's like the cues, you know, you look at the person, 727 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 5: you automatically, no muscle memory pops in. It's like not 728 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 5: even a question. You don't get it right. So I 729 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 5: do have a handshake with uh, to my nephews who 730 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 5: are twins, and sometimes I get confused between them two. 731 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 5: I'm like, I can't remember which one is with right now, 732 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 5: I'm in the middle of handshake, and I just kind 733 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 5: of follow their lead and I'm like, okay, there it is, 734 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 5: you know. So it's it's just, you know, it's fun. 735 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 5: Like I have handshakes with my kids everybody. So it's 736 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 5: it's just a cool thing to have. 737 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 1: Do you have a handshake with Tim Conley? 738 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 5: We we go the professional route man, you know, to 739 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 5: the you know, it's just normal handshake or this is 740 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 5: a little fist bump. 741 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 1: Man, all right, how about a rod. 742 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 5: To I don't see them, I don'm not around them 743 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 5: that much be able to to do it. But we 744 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 5: have to do that. 745 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 2: So executives, maybe it's a little bit different, you know, 746 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 2: than than teammates and relatives, that sort of thing. Maybe 747 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 2: that's the distinction for you, A little more formal. 748 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 5: A little bit more, a little bit more corporate. 749 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 750 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 2: Well, enjoy enjoyed the conversation as always, Enjoy your time 751 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 2: in New Orleans, and we will. 752 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: We'll talk in a couple of weeks. Thanks sir, all right. 753 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 5: So good, appreciate it. 754 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 2: Mike Conley, Timberwolves point guard, kind enough to join us 755 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 2: via the Connecticot Water Systems hotline. Kessler is scheduled for 756 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 2: the five o'clock hour of today's broadcast, and contractually we're obligated, 757 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 2: I guess between four and five today again to chat 758 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 2: with Glenn Mason. 759 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: Is that true? 760 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,399 Speaker 2: It's true. I'm looking forward to a Yeah. Well, it's 761 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 2: because you've missed the last forum. 762 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,320 Speaker 1: It's true. It's true. I've missed the last couple. 763 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 2: I haven't seen Mason a while haven't seen Kesler in 764 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 2: a while, it's been good catching up here as they wait, 765 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 2: do you know what the one constant has been through 766 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 2: all those shows you've missed, Indiana has still not lost 767 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 2: a football. Oh well, I've been here for a lot 768 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 2: of victory too, that's true. So if you're thinking of 769 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 2: using me as a good luck charm, that's not it. 770 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: I was here for. Yeah. 771 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,399 Speaker 2: Well no, I just meant that's the that's the cons' 772 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 2: knowing who's the hotline. We'll maybe do a little bit 773 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 2: of golfer stuff. I got to get back to the 774 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin's story with him. We discussed that some last week, 775 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 2: but now that it's seemingly resolved, did you see I'm 776 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 2: sure he saw the rather interesting schism or reaction in 777 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 2: this case from one of the ole Miss players allegedly 778 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 2: in the room to something that Kiffin had sent out 779 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,280 Speaker 2: as a statement. I did see that pretty juicy stuff 780 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 2: there as well. And if the player's telling the truth, 781 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 2: what's Lane Kiffin thinking. Well, I'm going to go out 782 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,439 Speaker 2: on a limb and say, that's not the first time 783 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 2: a coach has fibb about reaction. I suppose that situation 784 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 2: and I'll give you my own example involving a guy 785 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 2: that Mace almost went to work for, Vince Dooley when 786 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 2: I was covering Georgia and Dooley was flirting with going 787 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 2: back to his alma mater in Georgia's national championship season. 788 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 2: So there's there's a lot of meat on the bone 789 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 2: this week, Mace, in your face is neck