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Speaker 1: Don Lemon faces a reckoning, Boston mayor Michelle wou gets

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Speaker 1: caught pandering, and more people get caught having partied with

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. There are lots of expose this week in

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Speaker 1: our Did they really just say that clips I'm Nancy.

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Speaker 2: Shack, I'm jeff Brown.

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Speaker 3: This is news bite.

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Speaker 4: Last night.

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Speaker 5: The djson a team of federal agents to arrest me

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Speaker 5: be silent.

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Speaker 6: Every person, every human being, has the legal right to

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Speaker 6: come to the United States and seek asylum or shelter.

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Speaker 7: And Epstein was conspiring with a writer for me to

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Speaker 7: lose the election. So right there, you know that I

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Speaker 7: had nothing to do with this guy.

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Speaker 4: Parrying with Epstein.

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Speaker 1: That seems to be the uh, the theme going around here.

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Speaker 1: And President Trump says, uh uh.

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Speaker 2: All the kids did it right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. And in fact, there was a deputy A G.

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Speaker 1: Todd Blanche on Fox. He basically said, just wanted to

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Speaker 1: call to everybody's attention that partying with Epstein is actually

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Speaker 1: not a crime.

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Speaker 8: Is there any chance that any of these individuals who

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Speaker 8: partied with Epstein and engaged in, you know, relations with

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Speaker 9: Well, chance, I'll never say no, and we will always

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Speaker 9: investigate any evidence of misconduct. But as you know, it

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Speaker 9: is not a crime to party with mister Epstein, and

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Speaker 9: so as horrible as it's not a crime to email

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Speaker 9: with mister Epstein. And some of these men may have

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Speaker 9: done horrible things, and if we have evidence that allows

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Speaker 9: us to prosecute them, you better believe we will. But

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Speaker 9: it's also the kind of thing that the American people

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Speaker 9: that need to understand that it isn't a to party

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Speaker 1: I would point out to the Deputy Attorney General that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's also backup photos and other issues of it.

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Speaker 4: But boy, did you see the new photos? I don't

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Speaker 4: think so, Prince Andrew, I didn't see that.

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Speaker 2: You did see that? I mean look, I mean where

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Speaker 2: things were going on with Jeffrey Epstein that shouldn't have

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Speaker 2: is yes, there will be a fall guy or a

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Speaker 2: whoever is whispering in President Trump's ears should tell him

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Speaker 2: about this is that there's something there, something there there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we're at the point where the more he says,

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Speaker 2: you know, it just proves that I was, Yes, there's

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Speaker 2: most of the rest of the people associated with well

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Speaker 1: I know, well, I think, well that's what they're saying.

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Speaker 1: That's why the AG is saying it's not wasn't legal

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Speaker 2: And it's not no. But you know, when you when

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Speaker 4: Known without a doubt.

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Speaker 1: But don't you think that one of the reasons why

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Speaker 1: President Trump keeps mentioning is that he keeps getting asked

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Speaker 4: He's not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what's happening over and over and over again.

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Speaker 4: But he doesn't get away with that. He can't do

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Speaker 1: But here's a problem, like for instance, yesterday with Kaitlyn

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Speaker 1: But he has I think a a a good point.

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Speaker 9: It with that.

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Speaker 1: This is him in the Oval after Caitlyn Collins asked

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Speaker 7: If you look at the dj they announced, you know,

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Speaker 7: And frankly, the DOJ, I think should just say we

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Speaker 7: But it was even sort of better than that because

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Speaker 7: they found that Jeffrey Epstein and this leasbag writer named

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Speaker 7: Michael Wolf were conspiring against Donald Trump to lose the election.

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Speaker 7: So Epstein was conspiring with a writer for me to

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Speaker 1: So that is true that it did come out in

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Speaker 1: the documents. But then you have people like Congressman Ted Lou.

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Speaker 4: Where he just makes stuff up.

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Speaker 1: And the reason why I'm saying he's making stuff up

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Speaker 1: because if what Tedlo says is true, why did Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden sit on this. They were desperate to knock Donald

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Speaker 11: So why are Republicans so interested in Bill Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 11: Donald Trump is in the Epstein files thousands and thousands

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Speaker 11: Donald Trump raping children, of Donald Trump threatening to kill children.

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Speaker 11: So I encourage your press to go look at these allegations.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, that's a bizarre statement to make because

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Speaker 1: if that were even remotely true the Biden administration, the

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Speaker 2: The whole problem that I have with this is that,

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Speaker 2: the release of the files, to what purpose for public digestion,

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Speaker 2: the whole point really boils down to will there be

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Speaker 4: Yea?

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Speaker 2: And I mean how long has it been? Six years?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Six years? It's been for years since his death, now, right,

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Speaker 2: So you know, Pooper, get off the Can I say that?

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Speaker 2: Can I say, shit ter get off the pot?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 2: I mean that's really where we are with this. And

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Speaker 2: the more that it continues to sit there, you know

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump keeps saying move on. Yet yes, yes, it

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Speaker 4: Bringing it back. Yes, because and now we have and

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Speaker 4: in this case, there.

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Speaker 1: Was a Supreme Court decision, so it was a rational,

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Speaker 2: Right, But don't you think that between in the seven

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Speaker 4: Is out there hanging out, don't.

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Speaker 2: You think someone might have said hello, Yeah I do?

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Speaker 2: And so yeah, so I agree, I mean it's time

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Speaker 1: I think it's time to move on. I think what's

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Speaker 1: But I think that the Democrats in particular, and not

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Speaker 1: now defending illegal alien murderers and pedophiles. I happen to

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Speaker 4: But it's not closed.

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Speaker 2: You don't have you didn't have the staff, you didn't

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Speaker 1: But it's also like saying, you know to your neighbors.

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Speaker 4: I'll be honest with you, kicked out of Congress.

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Speaker 5: What is really the major problem in this country today

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Speaker 12: But we see people being shot for what for driving

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Speaker 1: So now they're just said it's okay to shoot ICE

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Speaker 1: And here's the problem. He's an elected congressman. So you

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Speaker 10: Remember how much power nurses have in this country. One

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Speaker 1: Really, so he's intimate, and you can let ice officers

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Speaker 2: much unsupervised by unqualified people running rampant on streets, namely

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Speaker 4: And the Dems would have you believe.

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Speaker 13: Last night, federal agents arrested journalist Don Lemon in Los

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Speaker 13: and authoritarian regimes across history. They've arrested a journalist for

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Speaker 13: the crime of doing his job. And let's be very clear,

443
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Speaker 13: this arrest is not just about one journalist in one incident.

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Speaker 13: The arrest is a dark message to journalists everywhere. If

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Speaker 13: you dare criticize this administration, watch your back. That's not

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Speaker 13: a democracy, that's a police state. And if that is

447
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Speaker 13: pure authoritarian bile, democracy will suffer if the government chokes

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Speaker 13: our civil liberties. Under this administration, the Department of Justice

449
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Speaker 13: has all too often become the Department of vengeance. Don

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Speaker 13: Lemon should be released at once and the frivolous charges

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Speaker 13: against him dropped.

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Speaker 1: Except they're not frivolous, and not everybody with an iPhone

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Speaker 1: is a journalist, And just because you call yourself a

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Speaker 1: journalist doesn't make you one. And this is the problem,

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Speaker 1: and so what the press has been trying to do

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Speaker 1: is see where was the line that he crossed, because

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Speaker 1: that's important in this I mean, he didn't cross the

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Speaker 1: line when he landed in Minneapolis. He didn't cross the

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Speaker 1: line because he brought them donuts and coffee. That wasn't

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Speaker 1: you know, It just showed his affinity. It didn't show

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Speaker 1: he didn't cross the line at that point. Where was

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Speaker 1: the line cross That is the big issue that's being

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Speaker 1: debated now.

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Speaker 14: So when do you believe that mister Lemon crossed the

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Speaker 14: line from reporting on what was going on to criminal activity.

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Speaker 14: Conveniently missing from what you just showed, George is the

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Speaker 14: appellate court and a judge on the appellate court who said,

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Speaker 14: just a few days later, there was clearly probable cause

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Speaker 14: and it wasn't even a close question. So and by

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Speaker 14: the way, a grand jury, which is what our system

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Speaker 14: has set up to determine whether probable cause exists, concluded

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Speaker 14: that there was probable cause. That indictment is now public.

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Speaker 14: Everybody in this country can pull it up and read

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Speaker 14: for themselves and see what the grand jury found that

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Speaker 14: mister Lemon did. I am not going to comment on

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Speaker 14: the charges specifically because it's not appropriate, but it's interesting

477
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Speaker 14: that we talk about the first mimum or right. You

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Speaker 14: have a right a freedom of religion, which is just

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Speaker 14: as important as any other right that we have. And George,

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Speaker 14: I don't know if you've watched the videos or read

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Speaker 14: the indictment about what it's led that mister Lemon did,

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Speaker 14: but if anybody in this country thinks that that is

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Speaker 14: quote independent journalism, I would like to have a conversation

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Speaker 14: with you.

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Speaker 1: And that was George Stephanopflis on ABC, along with the

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Speaker 1: guy we heard earlier, Todd Blanche who's the Deputy Age.

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Speaker 1: But interesting thing to me is that then this argument

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Speaker 1: was taken up over on CNN by Abby Phillips and

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Speaker 1: along with a New York Post reporter by the name

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Speaker 1: of Lydia Monaghan, and Abby Phillips refused to believe, even

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Speaker 1: with the Grand jury indictment that in fact she denied

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Speaker 1: it on the air, which was a mistake, that Lemon

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Speaker 1: had crossed any line at all.

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Speaker 15: The question is is he a protester or a journalist?

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Speaker 15: And the indictment obviously suggested that he posted himself at

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Speaker 15: the main door he prevented people from exiting, but.

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Speaker 16: Ultimately it does not say that. The indictment says that

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Speaker 16: protesters it did that. Other people act that did that.

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Speaker 4: And then well it's one more cut. That's really short, because.

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Speaker 1: Then Abby Phillips, who apparently hadn't read the indictment.

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Speaker 4: No, no, it never said that.

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Speaker 1: This is not the first time I've heard these people

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Speaker 1: deny something happens to Scott Jennings over there all the time,

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Speaker 1: and you go here it is and they refuse to

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Speaker 1: even look at it. And if that isn't pandering, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what is. But this is Lydia Monaghan standing

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Speaker 1: up for herself.

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Speaker 15: I just want to respond because you accuse me of

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Speaker 15: mischaracterizing the indictment. This is actually a quote from the

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Speaker 15: indictment that lemon posted himself at the main door of

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Speaker 15: the church, where he confronted some congregants and physically obstructed

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Speaker 15: them as they tried to exit, challenging them with facts

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Speaker 15: about US immigration policy. So that is what the indictment says.

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Speaker 15: I'm not stating whether I agree with that, but that's

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Speaker 15: what the indictment says. So look, you know they.

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Speaker 16: Also characterized him as intimidating a pastor who he was

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Speaker 16: calmly interviewing, so I think we also have to the

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Speaker 16: characterization of him conducting journalism is also something to be questioned.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, accept that I saw that interview with the pastor

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Speaker 1: and he did exactly what the indictment said he did.

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Speaker 2: So I will admit that this is one of the

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Speaker 2: stories that has been under my radar. So what exactly

523
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Speaker 2: are the charges against Don Lemon.

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Speaker 4: Civil rights chargers.

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Speaker 1: It's a violation of civil rights because it's a violation

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Speaker 1: of the First Amendment, the freedom of religion, and that's

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Speaker 1: what he did, and he did in fact, and also

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Speaker 1: I mean I saw the interview that specifically mentioned in

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Speaker 1: the indictment, and I've read the indictment and what he did,

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Speaker 1: and I was really surprised because he had talking to

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Speaker 1: the pastor, and the pastor was like, you know, we

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Speaker 1: actually was talking to one of the congregants there and

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Speaker 1: a lovely man who said, I don't necessarily agree with

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Speaker 1: everybody that's being pulled in, but I don't think you

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Speaker 1: interfere with law enforcement. You deal with it from the

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Speaker 1: other end, and you get these people out. You don't

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Speaker 1: necessarily do. I think there you've got to stop fighting

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Speaker 1: law enforcement because you're creating dangerous situations, and Don Lemon.

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Speaker 4: Started arguing with him, well, how can you how can

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Speaker 4: you believe that? How can you do?

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Speaker 1: And so he wasn't just interviewing getting opinions, he was

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Speaker 1: inserted himself and he stopped the guy from leaving. And

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Speaker 1: the guy is finally like, I don't want to talk

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Speaker 1: to you anymore because you're not being a journalist, You're

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Speaker 1: being an active.

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Speaker 2: That's h And I read an op ed about this

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Speaker 2: in the New York Times or the Washington Post, God

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Speaker 2: Rest its soul about about, you know, what was going

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Speaker 2: on in that church and what he was doing. As

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Speaker 2: for lack of a better term, a rogue journalist, I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's an independent journalist. Let's let's call it what it is.

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Speaker 2: But uh, you know, I see this in my line

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Speaker 2: of work every day where there you know, almost every

554
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Speaker 2: story that we do needs to have some nuance written

555
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Speaker 2: into it, right because you know, you're you're, you're, there

556
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Speaker 2: are two sides to every story. But to get a headline,

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Speaker 2: it's it's only one side. And when in my line

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Speaker 2: of work, which on wb Z is more or less

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Speaker 2: you know, a headline style of news, you have to

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Speaker 2: be very careful about it. Oh my god, And I

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Speaker 2: don't you know, has it happens? Just like everybody says

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Speaker 2: that mistakes are made every day in every newsroom in

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Speaker 2: the United States, there are There is in every newsroom

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Speaker 2: in the United States, whether it's independent, whether it's an organization,

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Speaker 2: a formal organization, there is, uh, there is bias, for

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Speaker 2: lack of a better term, just because that's the nature

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Speaker 2: of the beast and the reason that you need to

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Speaker 2: have checks and balances that independent journalists do not have

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Speaker 2: because I'm assuming he doesn't have a newsroom that he

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Speaker 2: answers to editor, doesn't have any check and balance on

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Speaker 2: no editor. Yeah, and you know, and and the problem

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Speaker 2: is with all the cuts that are going on in

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Speaker 2: the media industry, namely with newspapers in the Washington Post,

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Speaker 2: that you're stripping away either a lot of the checks

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Speaker 2: and balances or a lot of the journalists who carry

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Speaker 2: I might say a nes bias.

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Speaker 4: I think that's true. Yeah, I think that's absolutely true.

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Speaker 1: And the best compliment that I ever got I was

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Speaker 1: I was anchoring on WBZ, and I I was using

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Speaker 1: a different name than I'm more known for talk shows,

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Speaker 1: and I have a particular name on a talk show

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Speaker 1: that used but I was using my own name on

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Speaker 1: WBZ and I got a call in the newsroom after

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Speaker 1: I got off the air, and this woman.

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Speaker 4: Said, are you related to you? Know?

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Speaker 10: Are you?

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Speaker 4: Are you Sandy's sister?

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Speaker 1: Just like you sound just like because you know my

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Speaker 1: own name Nancy Shack on BZ, But I go by

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Speaker 1: the name of Sandy. I'm when I when I was

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Speaker 1: doing talk shows and it was a nickname that was

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Speaker 1: given to me by so many many years ago. And

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Speaker 1: are you related to Sandy? And I said, yeah, that's me.

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Speaker 1: I'm Sandy and I'm just using a different name. And

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Speaker 1: she's like, I thought you were her sister or something,

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Speaker 1: and she goes, can I tell you something? I'm like, sure,

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Speaker 1: I had no idea from your broadcast. What's your political leanings?

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Speaker 1: And that's the goal, And she goes, I know what

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Speaker 1: they are because i've heard you on talk and talk radio.

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Speaker 4: I had no idea.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were a completely different person because I

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Speaker 1: had no clue.

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell my boss because that will make him very,

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Speaker 1: very very happy, because that is the purpose to present

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Speaker 1: things fairly into make be even handed in what you do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you try every day because that's what you're

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Speaker 2: there to do.

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Speaker 4: But it's hard.

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Speaker 2: I know. I know every day that there are turns

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Speaker 2: of phrase that I might.

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Speaker 4: Use adjeative that right, be negatively.

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Speaker 2: That somebody taken somewhere is going to say, yeah, you

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Speaker 2: know you're left leaning or you're too conservative on that.

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Speaker 1: And then especially in your job too, I know that

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Speaker 1: you write a lot of your own things. You're very

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Speaker 1: you're very proactive about writing your own stuff. Not all

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Speaker 1: anchors are. And so I had a friend of mine

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Speaker 1: who is an anchor, and she would bitch because you know,

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Speaker 1: she did not write all her own stuff, and she

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Speaker 1: would get stuff written by people who had a political

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Speaker 1: bias that she did not share. And she was always like, uh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The other thing is you have to pre read

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Speaker 2: the stuff too, because that's how you catch yourself.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But it's it's a it's a you know, it's a

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Speaker 2: slippery slope. And you know, Don Lemon is serving a purpose.

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Speaker 2: I will said, like him or not, he is serving

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Speaker 2: a purpose, yes, And you know that op ed uh

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Speaker 2: described him as crossing that line.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I believe I believe he did protest rather.

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Speaker 1: Than and you know, what if you're a podcaster, that's okay,

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Speaker 1: go ahead and do it, except you gotta you gotta

634
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Speaker 1: take the lumps if you do it, because you are

635
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Speaker 1: an activist at that point, you are not a journalist.

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Speaker 4: And all right, it's your choice.

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Speaker 1: Because you are no longer a journalist, you are, in

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Speaker 1: fact an independent podcaster. The same rules don't apply to you.

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Speaker 1: Do what you want, but it also leaves you open.

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Speaker 1: You can't claim a journalist protection if you're not acting

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Speaker 1: like a But.

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Speaker 2: I see this was where I would say that podcast

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Speaker 2: or whatever medium it is, it is your obligation to

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Speaker 2: present the other side.

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Speaker 1: I think it's always your obligation unless you put right

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Speaker 1: up front there in the beginning, this is my personal opinion,

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Speaker 1: this is my political view.

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Speaker 7: That's true.

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Speaker 2: But then you then you become you can't cli you

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Speaker 2: become a columnist exactly.

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Speaker 4: You cannot claim to be a journalist anymore. That's what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. You go ahead and do that, but you

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Speaker 4: can't claim.

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Speaker 1: To be a journalist if you're doing that, because you know,

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Speaker 1: now it's just about politics and your activism, and you

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Speaker 1: have a right to do that, but you can't do

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Speaker 1: that and be.

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Speaker 4: A journalist at the same time. That's what it comes

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Speaker 4: down to. So we end every week with a truth

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Speaker 4: or troll.

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Speaker 1: This week the truth or troll is because we've just

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Speaker 1: been talking about him Don Lemon and Don Lemon on

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Speaker 1: his podcast after he was indicted. Well, I'll let you

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Speaker 1: is he is this kind of like a troll bravado

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Speaker 1: particular case. And so normally we do we do a

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Speaker 1: lot of Donald Trump because he's just a world class troller.

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Speaker 1: But I really thought that Don Lemon may have risen

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Speaker 4: This week.

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Speaker 2: I have so many thoughts and what this did was

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Speaker 2: really open my eyes to a lot. So if you

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Speaker 2: think that I was outspoken before, this.

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Speaker 6: Just wait.

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Speaker 4: Sounds a little maniacal to me.

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Speaker 1: But so the question is does he really mean to

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Speaker 1: a hornet's nest and they are swarming right at him.

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Speaker 2: Probably a little bit of both. But if he has

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Speaker 2: somebody advising him, that person would be wise to say

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Speaker 1: I think if he has a lawyer, which I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: he does, it's shut up. That is, that is basically

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Speaker 1: the best advice a lawyer can give to their clients.

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Speaker 2: Shut But it doesn't go very far in your career.

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just saying that somebody has to say,

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Speaker 2: you got to learn a lesson here, and if you're

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Speaker 2: not learning the lesson, you're not doing yourself any favors.

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Speaker 4: I think that's true.

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Speaker 2: I think it was bravado, but I'm exhausted after I

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Speaker 2: fill in on these ships. By the way.

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Speaker 4: I make you think, don't I. Well, thank you everybody.

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