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Speaker 2: A couple of dear friends, not only to nine to noon,

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Speaker 2: both work for the Star Tribune and you can follow

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Speaker 2: their work at Star Tribune dot com. One covers the

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Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings as a beat writer. The other writes about

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Speaker 2: myriad things as a columnist. Can we get a witness

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Speaker 2: in a raucous round of applause? Please for betting Geslin

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Speaker 2: for Tots. What's going on? Star Tribune Covenant?

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Speaker 3: Nothing much? Good morning everyone, Good to see you here,

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Speaker 3: great cause here Ben, good seeing you. Good to see

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Speaker 3: you guys too. Thanks everybody for being here.

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Speaker 2: And Ben's appearance is courtesy of Standard Heating and Air

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Speaker 2: Standard Heating and Air Standard Heating dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Those appearances sponsored by What's that mean? Sheals Amy? Amy

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Speaker 1: with you? You find him? I need that cricket sounder.

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Speaker 2: He needs a new bike like you gave those children

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Speaker 2: two years ago.

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Speaker 1: All right, three? Two? Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Then let's begin with you and then level you after him.

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Speaker 2: What is the For those who don't know, what is

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Speaker 2: the difference between a beat writer and a columnist.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is actually an important question, I think because

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Speaker 4: a lot of times people don't understand the difference. A

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Speaker 4: lot of it is so my job on a daily

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Speaker 4: how they happened, and what it all means. The difference

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Speaker 4: between a beat ri a columnist is a columnist is

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Speaker 4: free to express their opinions in what they write. They're

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Speaker 4: telling you what they think should happen, rather than what

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Speaker 4: to give you the news and tell you what it means,

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Speaker 4: and a columnist job is to weigh in with their

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Speaker 4: opinions more so.

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Speaker 1: Than a beat writer would be able to do.

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Speaker 4: So there is a pretty distinct difference there, and it's

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Speaker 4: important to have that because you don't want to have news.

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Speaker 1: Mixed with opinion all the time.

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Speaker 4: But we want we want to make it clear that

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Speaker 3: Right, As someone who's done both, it's the transition is

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Speaker 3: a little tough, and he would fake I think it

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Speaker 3: took me a year to get that beat writer mode

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Speaker 3: out of that. So yeah, it doesn't mean you just

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Speaker 3: have a license to take shots of people, but you

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Speaker 3: do have greater license to share your perspective and come

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Speaker 1: So I like that.

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Speaker 3: It's funny because when I was a beat writer, I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, all the time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so so that hasn't changed. So yeah, there is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the deal. Ben's a beat writer covering the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: Lavelle is a columnist for the Star Tribune, like Jim

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Speaker 2: Sue Hand, Chip Scottigans and so on. And I asked

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Speaker 2: you know, how would you define that?

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Speaker 1: Well, he's his official roles are a national NFL reporter, So.

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Speaker 4: His his his range of coverage. If there's national league issues,

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Speaker 4: this is something he's been doing for a long time.

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Speaker 4: It's it's more league wide than just Viking stuff. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: And he has a Hall of Fame boat he does, right.

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Speaker 3: So I love how Mark has injected his personality into

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Speaker 1: Books, let's not jump off a deep end. You know.

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Speaker 3: I love that one. It was just quality entertainment. But

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Speaker 5: So there is a distinction between a reporter, a beat writer,

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Speaker 4: Doubt it is a lot blurrier than it used to

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Speaker 4: great content strategy. I could probably be a lot more

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Speaker 4: yeah exactly. It allows me to but my hair down

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Speaker 3: But then when we are, we have opportunities to do

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Speaker 3: When this guy comes off to DL, he's gotta be Jennison, right,

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Speaker 1: I have questions all the time. So and then then

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and because I've had institutional knowledge about the twist

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Speaker 2: Right, that's right, like fifteen twenty years ago, right, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Lavell Neil the third columnist Star Tribune at Lavell Neil

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Speaker 2: via X, Ben Guestling, beat writer for the Star Tribune.

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Speaker 1: It covers the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 2: I have been guestling via X if you'd like to

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Speaker 2: follow him, And it's a great having both of them

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Speaker 2: here at Shields. It's toys for tots. How you can help.

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Speaker 2: We will share again momentarily and Ben's appearance is courtesy

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Speaker 2: of Standard Heating and Air. All right, So this is

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Speaker 2: this is a difficult question, and I don't think I've

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Speaker 2: hear what you have to say. Will there come a

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Speaker 3: It's going to happen sooner than later. Yeah, wow, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's coming. How do you feel about that? Our projections

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Speaker 4: The print circulation, well, the online circulation is certainly growing

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Speaker 3: For those you followed Star Tribute, if you're online, you

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Speaker 3: and voluminous than it is in the newspaper. Now, we're

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Speaker 3: paper in Iowa now starting in December, and like any

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Speaker 3: Weird in Minnesota, Yeah, Minnesota, Yeah crazy, And I mean

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Speaker 4: But here's the other thing I'd say on this, because

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Speaker 4: the print method of delivery is certainly dying. But the company,

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Speaker 4: by no means is dying. And this art Tribune still

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Speaker 4: has more beat writers, more columnists, more expansive coverage of

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Speaker 4: So there's sometimes I see this thing about the dying

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Speaker 2: But when you say morphine, we got the two kids

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Speaker 2: or dad, going what's the newspapers?

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Speaker 1: What's an album? And it's the same thing.

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Speaker 2: That's the reality of twenty twenty five. And morphine was

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Speaker 2: the perfect way to describe how we get our music changes,

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Speaker 2: how we get our news changes. It's just the medium,

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Speaker 2: it's not the message the changes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, and if you wanted a good example of beat

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Speaker 5: writer versus columnists, you just heard the columnists breaking it

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Speaker 5: down and then the beat writer has to roll in, No,

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Speaker 5: the newspaper is not dying.

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Speaker 4: Hearts a little annoyed by that narrative sometimes when it's

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Speaker 4: not true. Well, the still Beat writer is one of

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Speaker 4: four Beat writers who covers the Vikings, and there is

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Speaker 4: no other outlet in the country that covers one team

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Speaker 4: as much as the Start to Beat does the Vikings,

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Speaker 1: It's all annoyed.

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Speaker 3: And our high school coverage is basically second to none.

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Speaker 3: Now our high school staff is every high school in

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Speaker 3: the state has its own website available on Struve Varsity.

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Speaker 3: That's what we're headed too with this.

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Speaker 5: So well, I think there's there's some positive I mean,

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Speaker 5: change can be awful, right because lives are changing as

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Speaker 2: So that's Lavell Neal, the third columnist for the Star Tribune.

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Speaker 2: Ben Gesling, beat writer covers the team for the Star Tribune.

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Speaker 3: Jackson from the Rams. All three of those guys are

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Speaker 3: ranked among the top eleven offensive linemen in terms of

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Speaker 3: a block win percentage, so that has reshaped their line

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Speaker 3: is fueled the running game. Common down guy, the seventh

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Speaker 3: round pickatt of Rutgers has been has been useful and

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Speaker 3: when you're able to run the ball, it takes a

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Speaker 3: lot of pressure off of Hill. We was to make

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Speaker 3: plays with his arm, so which is weird because I

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Speaker 3: thought the Vikings would be similar to that with when

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Speaker 3: you when you, when you sign Mason you and you

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Speaker 3: have Aaron Jones.

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Speaker 1: It's not that we're not talking part but stopping.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, if I'm not here to catch Astray a

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Speaker 2: shields for the for.

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Speaker 1: The vikings that turn this around, I think it's starting.

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Speaker 1: I don't care what your opinion is.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's why you get paid to be a columnist,

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Speaker 2: to write about things like this, not talk about them.

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Speaker 2: Somebody please ask Ben a question right now that was

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Speaker 2: not a stray thrown at the one. I'm gonna get

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Speaker 2: this man of Sauncer.

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Speaker 5: I want to continue down the Bears road, but to

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Speaker 5: the to the beat writer. I want to ask the

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Speaker 5: beat writer for the road. Okay, well, you've got a

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Speaker 5: big one this weekend. Well do you think this is sustainable?

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Speaker 5: I mean that the question I have is earlier in

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Speaker 5: the season, it was a team that was beating on

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Speaker 5: bad teams, doing the thing we're supposed to do, and

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Speaker 5: that record. Now you go to Philly on Black Friday,

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Speaker 5: you do what you did, and that kind of raises

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Speaker 5: some eyebrows and hat I guess I'm gonna give my

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Speaker 5: own team, my favorite team Astray here.

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Speaker 1: Well, they broke the Ale spirit with that running game.

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Speaker 1: They did.

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Speaker 5: But but this your team kind of feels like the

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty two Minnesota Vikings. There's an element to it

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Speaker 5: where you have brought the turnovers down, you're getting takeaways,

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Speaker 5: opportunistic defense, and the offense. Any coin flip of a moment,

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Speaker 5: your team is on the right side of that. And

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Speaker 5: that was similar to my favorite team a few years ago.

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Speaker 5: But then the freaking rug gets pulled out from under

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Speaker 5: my favorite team. Sadly that what That's what your team

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Speaker 5: feels to me right now. I'm just curious what your

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Speaker 5: level of faith or belief is in sustaining this at

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Speaker 5: this particular moment atop the NFC.

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Speaker 3: For the rest of the season. I think it's gonna

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Speaker 3: be think it's gonna be tough. The Phillies. Sorry, the

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Speaker 3: victory over the Eagles was a defining win. That the

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Speaker 3: defining one I was looking for.

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Speaker 1: It was a strong win, yeah, because I.

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Speaker 3: Was skeptical to just because of strength of schedule.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty two Bills Vikings esque.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and how some of these games were being won,

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Speaker 3: you know, in the final seconds. And the Cincinnati game

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Speaker 3: was just ridiculous. No, so now it's it's open eyes

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Speaker 3: across the league. And in my mind, if the Bears

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Speaker 3: get to eleven wins, which means they just need two

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Speaker 3: more wins out of these last five games, I think

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Speaker 3: that's maybe enough to win the division. Because you look

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Speaker 3: at green Bay schedule and Detroit schedule, it's not a walk.

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Speaker 1: In the park. In fact, I.

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Speaker 5: Believe one of those should be against the Pack though, right,

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Speaker 5: if you're thinking that way, and you exactly, you guys

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Speaker 5: got to go to Lambeau and get a w this week.

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Speaker 1: Does Sunday Lab where the Bear won.

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Speaker 3: The Bears won their last year, So we're not gonna

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Speaker 3: be afraid used to Bees don't count anymore.

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Speaker 1: They just lie on the floor till we sweep them away.

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Speaker 1: And two.

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Speaker 3: Ben Johnson, the INTRODUC three press conferences. I enjoyed beating

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Speaker 3: Matt Lafleour twice a year. He's five and one against

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Speaker 3: law La floor oh J with Jamir Gibbs. No, I'm sorry, No,

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Speaker 3: I didn't say that. No, it doesn't matter. They're nine

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Speaker 3: and three with Manungai. Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: Swift too?

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Speaker 3: So then we so then we have Cleveland after that,

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Speaker 3: then Detroit again. Yeah, then forty nine Ers and Lions

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Speaker 3: get give me two more wins. Give me to eleven.

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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna win.

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Speaker 1: He's just trying to give me too more.

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to have the Vikings score a touchdown, yeah,

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Speaker 2: the first time in eight or just give.

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Speaker 5: Me seven points. I just want to see Reiker out.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna happen. Minding up for an extra points. I

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Speaker 5: just need that. I need that against the Commanders.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: But this is not about us on the therapeutic davenport

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Speaker 2: of Block getting emotional. This is about thanking the columnists

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Speaker 2: for stopping by and opening his hard and sharing.

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Speaker 1: And also it's an open invitation. Why because it's public?

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Senny wants to come in studio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Thursday at eleven fifteen after what's the girl's name?

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Speaker 1: Olivia? What Olivia King? Olivia King?

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Speaker 2: So eleven fifteen till I don't know, eleven forty five

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Speaker 2: Thursday around eleven fifteen, Senny wants the Sultan of Small

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Speaker 2: wants to stop by, and his his team is hosting.

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Speaker 1: Don't be account they're chasing your team, yep.

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Speaker 2: And Nordo and I will probably craft a little game

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Speaker 2: or a tribute thing. Or something like that. But we're

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Speaker 2: just gonna sit back and profit. Excuse me, just sit

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Speaker 2: back and enjoy you guys going at each other.

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Speaker 1: I don't wouldn't you guys love to hear that if

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Speaker 1: only one segment. If doesn't evolve us, but a.

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Speaker 2: Couple of learned football fans will at least Lavell's learned

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Speaker 2: going at each other eleven fifteen ish on Thursday.

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Speaker 3: He wants to stop by, I will knock that smug

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Speaker 3: off his face. Yeah, and if for this around he's

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Speaker 3: getting punched in the oh. Yeah, you guys would beat

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Speaker 3: me in initials too, and for me a four and eight,

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Speaker 3: two segments handled. Please thank you father to nine Levell.

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Speaker 2: God bless you, ma'am. Thanks for coming out. We appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Columnist Lavelli Neil the third, Follow him on Twitter, Please

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Speaker 2: read all of his stories at Star Tribune and Start

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Speaker 2: Tribune dot com. Ben stage for a segment and we'll

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Speaker 2: get a little more hardcore with the vikings from Shields

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Speaker 2: at Ben Gesling acts as Vikings the podcast. We got

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Speaker 2: a newsletter in the mix. He was in Seattle and

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Speaker 2: it's always great seeing Ben listen to him on the

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Speaker 2: Vikings pregame show too, Vikings Football Sunday with Muss Generally,

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Speaker 2: what is that about twenty minutes before the game, twenty.

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Speaker 1: Five before the game?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, generally the idea that's Vikings Football Sunday, AFA and

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Speaker 2: KFA in Audio Network. All right, let's go a little

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Speaker 2: bit in the weeds on the hardcore side. Why is

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Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson not speaking after.

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Speaker 1: A game a big deal?

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Speaker 4: Well, he's I think in six years of covering him,

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Speaker 4: I was trying to remember if that's ever happened before,

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Speaker 4: and I can't remember a time where it has.

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Speaker 1: I think it's.

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Speaker 4: Notable because he's one of the captains of the team,

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Speaker 4: and he's a guy that I think takes that role

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Speaker 4: pretty seriously. We've heard him talk over the last couple

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Speaker 4: of years a number of times about how important he

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Speaker 4: sees that as being and being kind of the face

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Speaker 4: of the franchise. He's referred to himself about in that

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Speaker 4: role quite a bit. So for him to say I

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Speaker 4: don't have anything to say it. You know, it happens.

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Speaker 4: You see players do it when they're frustrated at times.

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Speaker 4: But it was a window into what he's thinking as

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Speaker 4: much as anything else. I mean, I'm not going to

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Speaker 4: be the guy that sits here and says, oh, they

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Speaker 4: have to do it every single time they're supposed to

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Speaker 4: do it, like sometimes guys have met some guys. Sometimes

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Speaker 4: guys think if I say something, it's probably going to

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Speaker 4: be worse than if I don't, so the old if

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Speaker 4: I don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything

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Speaker 4: at all. But I think it was a window into

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Speaker 4: how he's feeling. And we all saw the body language

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Speaker 4: on the sideline in the second half of that game,

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Speaker 4: So I think it's notable. I think it's telling based

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Speaker 4: on the fact that he's not done that it's at

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Speaker 4: all as far as I can remember, and just the

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Speaker 4: role that he plays as a team spokesman. For him

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Speaker 4: to say no, I'm I'm not doing that today, I

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Speaker 4: think is worth paying attention to.

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Speaker 5: Isn't in some ways not saying anything saying everything yes,

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Speaker 5: And I mean, you're not going to be a person

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Speaker 5: that puts words into his brain or through his mouth

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Speaker 5: when you cover the team, But there is an element

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Speaker 5: of justin Jefferson's probably feeling a.

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Speaker 1: Lot like what we're feeling, even on the outside. Right now.

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Speaker 5: This team has tried everything, it's not working, and he

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Speaker 5: is accustomed to some semblance of success. Yeah, winner lose

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Speaker 5: statistically getting into the end zone.

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Speaker 1: We're begging, we're sitting up here nine to do and

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Speaker 1: begging this team just to score a touchdown.

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Speaker 5: He wants in more than him. Kind of saying nothing

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Speaker 5: in some ways says a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think that's right. I think there's a little bit

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Speaker 4: of a yeah when you when you stay silent, you

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Speaker 4: allow people to say, boy, that's you. A lot of

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Speaker 4: people like me to say that's not something we've seen

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Speaker 4: from him before. He doesn't have to say anything for

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Speaker 4: people to say, Okay, this is uh, this is different

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Speaker 4: than it has been. And I certainly think there's frustration there. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: he has still won more playoff games in college than

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Speaker 4: he has in the NFL, and that was two seasons

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Speaker 4: of playoffs at LSU, and he's been at the playoffs

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Speaker 4: I think probably twice in his time with the Vikings.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, that it's obviously a lot longer time.

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Speaker 4: So I think the fact that they are not having

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Speaker 4: the success he'd hope to have, both individually for him

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Speaker 4: and as a team, is starting to wear on him

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Speaker 4: a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Ben Gasoline's art Tribunes dart Tribune dot Com. When when

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Speaker 2: things are really bad, even I mean for some kind

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Speaker 2: of bad, but when things are perceived to be really bad, yeah,

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Speaker 2: fans always want people replaced. Uh that that's that's It's

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Speaker 2: mostly overreaction, but not always right right.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean you've seen times where people get replaced because

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Speaker 4: an ownership group has said, hey, this has been enough.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that's the point we're at here. I mean,

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Speaker 4: the coach and the general manager were both extended before

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Speaker 4: this season, and Kevin O'Connell's extension is I think through

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty nine. So there's a lot of commitment made

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Speaker 4: to Kevin O'Connell and Quasi Dopomensa, especially in the middle

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Speaker 4: of this quarterback process, where you're probably going to say,

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Speaker 4: we need some stability here. But this has been bad,

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Speaker 4: and I think there's a lot of fans that start

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Speaker 4: to wonder about it at this point. There's with the

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Speaker 4: contracts and the fact that they have made those commitments,

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Speaker 4: and there's a cost to that obviously that goes into

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Speaker 4: the equation. But they're going to have to, I think,

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Speaker 4: answer for some things, just as how this has gone.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think they'll be here, but just in

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Speaker 4: the accounting of it, when they're meeting with the ownership

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Speaker 4: group and saying what happened here, there are going to

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Speaker 4: have to be some hard conversations because this certainly has

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Speaker 4: not gone anywhere near what they.

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Speaker 1: Wanted it to be.

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Speaker 5: I imagine you do a lot of stiff arming with

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Speaker 5: those sorts of topics, or have to in some regard. Again,

658
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Speaker 5: still meeting with the team every day, we're in the

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Speaker 5: midst five games remaining.

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Speaker 1: I've joked about it with you before.

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Speaker 5: You know, in October, team loses a bad game, you're

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Speaker 5: talking about the general manager, you're talking about drafts, you're

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Speaker 5: talking about free agency and those things, and I would say,

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Speaker 5: this is freaking October, like we're not gonna have plenty

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Speaker 5: of time to.

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Speaker 1: Dissect and go backwards.

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Speaker 5: But that heat now with five games left in playoffs

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Speaker 5: not really being a factor of the conversation that has

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Speaker 5: exploded where you're trying to balance. Here's what I want

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Speaker 5: to see out of my squad against the Commanders, and

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Speaker 5: please can the left tackle play so number nine can

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Speaker 5: have the best opportunity to find some success on the field. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 5: what about this guy that came in in March? Did

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Speaker 5: you see what we drafted in twenty twenty two? Like,

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Speaker 5: trying to stay in the now can be difficult.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it can.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is an ownership group I think it's

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Speaker 4: worth pointing out that is not typically very reactionary. They

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Speaker 4: pride themselves on being stable. They pride themselves on being

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Speaker 4: monitorial thinkers, and the decisions they have that they certainly

681
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Speaker 4: I think want to operate that way. You've heard them

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Speaker 4: talk about seeing the Rooney family as a model for

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Speaker 4: what they want in terms of family ownership, but also

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Speaker 4: the stability of we're not going to react to one

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Speaker 4: season of things going off the rails or a couple

686
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Speaker 4: of months of things going off the rails. That said,

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Speaker 4: this is a team that I think has the highest

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Speaker 4: cash spend in the NFL. So there are a lot

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Speaker 4: of investments made that have not panned out, and I

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Speaker 4: think that's where it becomes difficult to kind of parse

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Speaker 4: all of this because there I do think there's going

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Speaker 4: to be hard discussions of hey, this did not We

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Speaker 4: thought we were building a team that would contend, even

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Speaker 4: as we have a quarterback that's developing in the process.

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Speaker 4: That was always going to be a tough thing to do.

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Speaker 4: But when it hasn't worked, and it's to the point

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Speaker 4: where you're not even talking about playoffs, you're talking about,

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Speaker 4: you know, drafts and where things go from here, there's

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Speaker 4: a lot of questions that have to be answered, and

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Speaker 4: specifically with the drafts. They have an expensive roster in

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Speaker 4: part because the drafts have not delivered the results in

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Speaker 4: the young the fruit, cheaper labor, which let's be honest,

703
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Speaker 4: that's part of what it is that hasn't happened. So

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Speaker 4: you end up in spots where you pay Adam Thielan

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Speaker 4: and you have veterans that are getting a little older

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Speaker 4: and a little more expensive, and you have to work

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Speaker 4: through all of that when the drafts have not delivered.

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Speaker 2: Lastly, with the Minnesota Vikings offense, do you sense with

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Speaker 2: that side of the football that at times they almost

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Speaker 2: expect bad things to happen? In other words, playing playing

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Speaker 2: tight ye or it's hard it's hard to frame up

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Speaker 2: because they've had so much offensive success here. Yeah, that

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Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of like like when is something

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Speaker 2: bad gonna happen?

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean I think it was interesting to

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Speaker 4: hear Kevin O'Connell talk yesterday about out having to separate

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Speaker 4: what you hope the offense would look like or what

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Speaker 4: you believe it can look like, from what you're actually

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Speaker 4: at right now, because what triggered the question. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think and it'll be interesting to hear what he

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Speaker 4: says to that. I mean, if you guys get into

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Speaker 4: it a little bit later today and we go through

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Speaker 4: the week, Because this is an offense that we've seen

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Speaker 4: work at a very high level. But it's an offense

725
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Speaker 4: that's worked well when it's had quarterbacks that have had

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Speaker 4: time in the league and time in the offense. So

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Speaker 4: when you have a quarterback that can make all of

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Speaker 4: the cans and checks at the line, when you have

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Speaker 4: a quarterback that trusts themselves. He talked about it yesterday,

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Speaker 4: the incut screaming through the backside. I mean, Sam Darnold

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Speaker 4: lived on those last year, the dagger throw to Justin

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Speaker 4: Jefferson on the backside of a play. They made so

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Speaker 4: much money off of that last year, and that is

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Speaker 4: something they want to get to. Often in this offense,

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Speaker 4: where you have a receiver running vertically to clear the

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Speaker 4: safety and then Justin Jefferson breaks behind that to get

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Speaker 4: eighteen yards over the middle of the field, we have

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Speaker 4: not seen that happen. So when those staples of the

739
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Speaker 4: offense aren't there and you're kind of saying, okay, let's

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Speaker 4: go to screens, let's go to quick game, let's try

741
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Speaker 4: to find ways to just minimize the mistakes. It's that

742
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Speaker 4: playing not to lose thing, which certainly Kevin O'Connell does

743
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Speaker 4: not want to be doing. He wants to push the ball,

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Speaker 4: he wants to be aggressive, he wants to play to win,

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Speaker 4: and I think when you're having to operate this way, yeah,

746
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Speaker 4: it can lead you to a little bit of this

747
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Speaker 4: protectionist mindset. That's very unusual to see from a Kevin

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Speaker 4: O'Connell coach team. You're fantastic, thanks for coming out. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: always fun to be out here. Thank you, Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: Follow his work at Star Tribune and Star Tribune dot com.

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Speaker 2: dot Com. Now about fifteen minutes from now, Kevin O'Connell,

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Speaker 2: head coach of the Minnesota Vikings, will join us as

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Speaker 2: he is wont to do weekly around eleven o'clock. He'll

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Speaker 2: be at Twin Cities Orthopedics Performance Center in Egan and

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Speaker 2: we'll be here at Chiels and Eden Prairie. He'll be

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Speaker 2: able to see us though, and we have secured a

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Speaker 2: couple of tots. We have secured a couple of kids

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Speaker 2: to ask Kevin, ask the head coach some questions here

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Speaker 2: on the stage. You'll see that at Vikings dot com

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Speaker 2: and hear at nine to noon coming up about eleven

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Speaker 1: I'm Paul Allen back after this.

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Speaker 5: our Toys for Tots push each and every single season,

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Speaker 5: the Vikings, unrel for supporting our efforts today and it

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Speaker 5: is time for News de Nord truncated edition as we

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Speaker 5: pad our way to the head coach Kevin O'Connell each

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Speaker 5: and every week, x's and o's with head coach Kevin O'Connell.

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Speaker 5: He's going to be joining us at the top of

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Speaker 5: the hour. He'll be at tco and Egan and we'll

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Speaker 5: be here at Shields. But excited for that conversation regarding

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Speaker 5: your favorite football team and it's super cool. We got

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Speaker 5: a couple of tots with a couple of questions for

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Speaker 5: the head coach to kick that off. Non Vikings for

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Speaker 5: a moment. The Minnesota Timberwolves ten and a half point

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Speaker 5: favorites at the New Orleans Pelicans this evening. Anthony Edwards

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Speaker 5: I've mentioned to when I talk about prize picks. Five

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Speaker 5: straight games I believe the longest streak of his career

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Speaker 5: with thirty plus points.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say he's on a heater and he's kind of.

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Speaker 5: Had to be wonky squad trying to figure out the.

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Speaker 1: Point guard position.

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Speaker 5: But they're finding their way to victories, finally beating teams

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Speaker 5: with a winning record, as they did over the weekend

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Speaker 5: versus the Spurs and the Celtics. Let's just say this,

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Speaker 5: the Pelicans are hideous. The Pelicans are awful. The Pelicans

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Speaker 5: are the dredge of the NBA. And to go down

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Speaker 5: to New Orleans and do nothing other than just absolutely

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Speaker 5: pummel an awful state of affairs that the Pelicans currently are.

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Speaker 5: That should be the a topic for Finchy's squad tonight,

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Speaker 5: and that's seven o'clock.

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Speaker 1: You're going to get to hear that via the.

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Speaker 5: Course where you're home for Wolf's Hoops the free iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: The answers to the question that you texted me last

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Speaker 2: evening and I didn't see it till this morning, is

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Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards in my opinion. The answer is, you know,

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Speaker 2: he's two fifty to one to become the NBP. So

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Speaker 2: you got like Shay, Gilgess, Alexander, and Djokis who are

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Speaker 2: prohibitively favored to win it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's almost it's like one and a half to

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Speaker 5: one each of them. They're very close.

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Speaker 2: It's it's certainly with Shay the team is heavily favored

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Speaker 2: to win the championship, and so the teams that the

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Speaker 2: bet shops believe will garner the most attention and win

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Speaker 2: the most games. So who's the best player on that team?

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Speaker 2: Who is the one all of the people who vote

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Speaker 2: for absolutely know of now, of course they know event

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Speaker 2: but really until he does things that those two if done,

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Speaker 2: then they're just like, here, kitty, kitty, you got twenty dollars,

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Speaker 2: you want to put it on him at twenty five,

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Speaker 2: two fifty to one, whatever it is, go ahead and

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Speaker 2: do it.

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Speaker 1: He's not going to win it. Totally makes sense.

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Speaker 5: We've had this MVP conversation similarly in the NFL before.

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Speaker 1: Just two fifty was very jarring to me.

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Speaker 5: Now, NBA awards are so top heavy and maybe pragmatically,

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Speaker 5: if you we were just gonna say.

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Speaker 1: Who's the MVP of the NBA.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, people would get bored because Joker would be

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Speaker 5: the MVP probably the last four or five six seasons

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Speaker 5: if you were truly looking at it from an actual

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Speaker 5: most valuable standpoint, Shay is probably the right answer in

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Speaker 5: this equation with what he did last year. I get it,

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Speaker 5: But I'm just thinking Aunt at two fifty to one,

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Speaker 5: especially if he continues to carry this thing on his

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Speaker 5: back like he has the last week and a half. Yep,

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Speaker 5: and this is a team fine, maybe for their third

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Speaker 5: consecutive Western Conference Final series. I'm just thinking, man number

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Speaker 5: five needs a little bit of love, you know.

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Speaker 1: And maybe not.

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Speaker 5: This isn't a take for a Todd, but maybe if

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Speaker 5: I was a Todd, I'd tell my dad, I'd like

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Speaker 5: you let me maybe throw five on Aunt at two fifty to.

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Speaker 1: One and see what happens.

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Speaker 2: We have a minute left before we paused for O'Connell

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Speaker 2: just to land the plane here. You know, I like

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Speaker 2: this maybe for tomorrow or moving forward, where if you

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Speaker 2: look at each team, you know that say has a

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Speaker 2: winning record, and you take that MVP guy from.

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Speaker 1: It, what do you think would happen? You see what I'm.

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Speaker 5: Saying, yeah, that'd be fun to look around actually, but

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Speaker 5: then you get to like the Rockets.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Kevin Durant is Kevin Durant more important than Amen Thompson.

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Speaker 2: Is Amen Thompson more important than whomever else? You want

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Speaker 2: to go to the MBT on that team. I like

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Speaker 2: that next.

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Speaker 5: Well, lastly, as we are indeed about to pause the

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Speaker 5: Wild and as well as they've been doing. Sadly they

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Speaker 5: lose that shootout against the Sabers. After that incredibly emotional

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Speaker 5: w at home on Friday against the Abs, they're out

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Speaker 5: of Connor McDavid and the Edmonton Oilers and it will

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Speaker 5: be yesper vaalstet in Net for the Minnesota Wild tonight.

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Speaker 5: That's at eight pm on your home for a while,

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Speaker 5: the hockey the fan looking for them to continue their

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Speaker 5: their winning ways as they create a nice little gap

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Speaker 5: six points clear. I believe the Blackhawks are the next

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Speaker 5: team in the division. They are four points clear where

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Speaker 5: the wild card teams are at. So this, you know,

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Speaker 5: it's tough to build that kind of momentum with the

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Speaker 5: three point game and how everything works out scoring wise

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Speaker 5: in the NHLAH. Impressive turnaround from some ugly and meager

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Speaker 5: beginnings to this season, looking forward to Heinze's team getting

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Speaker 5: another two out West tonight, Well, this time last.

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Speaker 2: Week, or actually like Thursday or Friday last week when

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Speaker 2: we were laying out Hey, they have twenty eight points.

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Speaker 2: Twenty eight points puts you x amount behind the Abs

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Speaker 2: in the best division in hockey. But if you're in

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Speaker 2: something called the Metropolitan, you'd be leading it. If you're

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Speaker 2: in the Atlantic, you'd be in a tie for first.

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Speaker 2: It kind of a perspective as they go around the

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Speaker 2: league Central strong right now. It's just crazy how things

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Speaker 2: change in a short amount of time. Where the Wild

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Speaker 2: have thirty three points, Okay, so they beat Colorado, there's

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Speaker 2: still nine behind Colorado, still five behind Dallas. Like Nordo said,

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Speaker 2: the Central was crazy. But you go to the Pacific

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Speaker 2: and we'd be tied for first with Anaheim first and foremost.

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Speaker 1: How in the heck is Anaheim in first? That's up

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Speaker 1: with the Ducks and.

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Speaker 2: Secondly Edmonton with Connor McDavid Dreiseidel, Evan Bouchard and some

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Speaker 2: of those other high enders. Well, they're in the spot

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Speaker 2: we're in last week, yep, they have twenty seven points,

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Speaker 2: So that's very intriguing and we'll see all it works

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Speaker 2: out tonight.

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Speaker 2: We sell Christmas trees at Canterbury by the way, if

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Speaker 2: you would like to stop by the they're outside on

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Speaker 2: the west side of the parking lot.

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Speaker 6: And you've talked about it before. Oh it's sweet. What

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Speaker 6: goes into this, Well, it's just Canterbury offers everything. Whether

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Speaker 6: you're feeling the felt or you're doing the NFL Pro

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Speaker 6: Pick Them challenge, you're getting Christmas trees if you don't

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Speaker 6: want to be like me climbing up a freaking hill

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Speaker 6: because your kids picked the Christmas tree a half mile

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Speaker 6: away from the jeep and you got the little orange

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Speaker 6: saw that's down to a dull. You go to Canterbury Park,

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Speaker 6: you find Johnny the Mouse, Mickelson or some of the

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Speaker 6: great staff that are actually out there selling trees. By

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Speaker 6: yourself a tree, pull up the truckster, they'll strap it

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Speaker 6: on top and you're headed your way to a beautiful

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Speaker 6: Christmas tree centerpiece in your house.

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Speaker 1: Cover your ears.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, this right here is a great husband

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Speaker 2: and an even better father. Round up applause for the

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Speaker 2: producer of nine to Now you I told you to

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Speaker 2: cover your ears, speaking of great husbands, elite coaches, and

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Speaker 2: fantastic fathers. Kevin O'Connell, head coach of the Minnesota Vikings,

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Speaker 2: joins us next on nine to noon