WEBVTT - 2-11-26 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:03.960 --> 0:00:06.920 Scott flowing back on seven hundred w WELW show. You're streaming, 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:07.720 you're on your phone, you. 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:11.200 Got devices in the background. Things are going all. Everything's good. 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:14.880 You're using all this data. And then one day one 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:16.760 of those platforms you're on, or maybe all of them 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:20.560 slow down. You get that spinning wheel of frustration. Well, 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:24.120 what's going on? This thing sucks? It's broken. No, that's 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:27.120 the AI boom. Okay, so we're all on our phone, 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:29.960 we're all using stuff. AI comes along puts even more 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:32.320 stress on the system. You may not think you're using AI. 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:34.879 You're using AI as we speak. So people in Mount 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:39.080 orb in Maysville and Butler County and Wilmington for that matter, 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:41.559 taking a hard look if they want them in their towns. 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:44.919 So the City of Cincinnati is getting very proactive on this, 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:49.000 putting a temporary moratorium on new data centers while they 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:51.240 do a zoning stead of review. It's not a band, 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:53.479 it's just a pause. And she is part of the 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:55.760 Housing and Growth Committee, and that would be council Member 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.560 Mika d Owens and the D stands for data Meka, 0:00:58.600 --> 0:00:59.320 good morning, how are you. 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:04.000 That's the same. Well, that's a good one. That sounds great. Yes, 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:06.640 I am doing well. Thank you so much for having 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.399 me this morning. Very excited to be here. 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:14.040 Okay, so obviously major corporations need them, we get pg 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:18.919 Kroger fifth or they require data infrastructure we have more demand. 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:20.920 People in the city would often talk about the urban 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.320 areas being a desert for connectivity when it comes to 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:25.760 high speed that would help with this thing. So starting 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:29.360 with the basics here, city doesn't even have a zoning 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:32.679 definition for data centers right now. So has there been 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:34.959 any interest from the outside the facilities up to this 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.640 point and what triggered this need for moratorium in the 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:39.639 point where literally you want to vote on this today. 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:42.679 Yeah, Well, first of all, I think it's important that 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:46.640 we recognize we are in an AI zone similar to 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:51.280 I think the Internet, and so what that means that 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:55.320 this technology is here, It's on your iPhone, it's everywhere, 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:58.480 as you indicated, and so you know, this is not 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:01.000 a question of whether or not just going to grow. 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:06.920 It's how organizations, companies and cities jurisdictions get ready for 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:12.399 this type of technology, revitalization or resolution, whatever you want 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:14.720 to call it. And so what this step is is 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:19.440 really a pactive step that will help us to one 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:24.079 define what data centers are and you know data center 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.519 centers in terms of being able to run AI. It's all. 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.760 Also the concern is the industry consumption that it is 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:34.480 required to do that. So the first step is, let's 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.440 pop to define this. Let's look at areas of the 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:41.520 city where this might occur. So we're looking at twenty 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.239 two thousand parcels and what that will do is really 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:48.000 healthy administration to get in to one get more educational 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:52.200 understanding and create a framework around if somebody actually wants 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.200 to come to the city and create one. 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:59.720 Okay, and that is probably sooner rather than later. Again, 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.320 a pause, not a ban. But so let's say P 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.440 and G or Kroger they're working on something. You know 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:07.160 that they're always expanding, and you have a new CEO. 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.000 Obviously Kroger, you've got there's a need to expand. If 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:14.720 they need to expand their data infrastructure during this temporary period, 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.760 this this moratorium, are they grandfather? Then what do you 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:20.079 what do you tell the biggest employers and some of 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:22.360 the biggest companies in the world you can't have it. 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:25.400 Well, that's going to be a part of the engagement 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:27.919 that the administration is going to have to do while 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:31.160 they are getting all of the pieces on the administrative 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:34.040 side by way of zoning and definition and the totity 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:36.600 Court nation. They're going to do that over the next 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:39.440 couple of months and hopefully we get to a point 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:42.600 of better understanding so that we actually know what to 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.720 do in a situation like that. We also know that 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:49.080 there are different types of data centers. You know, most 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:52.480 people probably think of them as some large warehouse off 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.640 of the side of the interstate, but they could also 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:58.400 be a small room with with with servers. So we 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.200 want to recognize with the landscape is. And so that's 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:03.000 the work that's going to happen over the next couple 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.440 of months. And if we don't have and that also 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:09.240 insos public engagement and so the pieces that are needed 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:11.560 with you know, we don't have those in the next 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:14.200 couple of months, they can also extend so that the 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.800 work can continue until we get to a firmer place 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:19.479 of having answers to these question. 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:21.480 Yeah, and you know, I think that makes sense in 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:25.080 the Central Business District obviously, no go. But there's land 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:27.400 all over the place in Cincinnati and also in Hambling 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:29.760 County for that matter where you look at it, going, hey, 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.960 there's what they need is they need they need electricity. 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:34.640 We'll get to that in a second to power these things, 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:36.920 but they also need water to cool everything off. 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:37.839 In the data centers. 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.440 We've got the Ohio River right there, you know, worried 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:42.760 about in some of these counties, you know, like folks 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:47.040 in Adams County or Butler County, masl Kentucky and elsewhere 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:50.320 more of Wilmington, they're worried about taking all the groundwater 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:53.160 out and that's a huge problem for those communities. You 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.719 really don't have that with the plentiful water in the 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.640 Ohio River that gets pumped back in anyway. It's you know, 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:00.960 in that you're also in proxi many of the big companies, 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:05.320 but also the people and Cincinnati needs needs that infrastructure 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:07.640 when it comes to data and when comes to the 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.279 ability to get more products online and get people connected. 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:11.920 And so it's a it's a beautiful fit I think 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:13.720 for some of these cities. And you've got the you 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:17.480 got the space, and you're not saying no, but I 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:20.200 think just being near the Ohio River is a bonus here. 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:25.039 Oh well, absolutely, that is the attraction to the Midwest 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:29.640 and specifically you know, Cincinnati and other jurisdictions, and so 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.800 it is. It is all a part of the changing 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:37.520 pollution in our environment and changing climates and changing temperature. 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:40.560 The Midwest is going to be so attractive because we 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.440 see the erosion that is happening on the coast right 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:46.640 the West Coast Coast fire was all of those things. 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:49.839 So just by that, you know, we have got to 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:53.960 get ready for folks who are coming to this network region. Yes, 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:57.240 our natural water water source is a benefit, but it's 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.800 also something that we need to protect. Again as we 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:03.600 will look at data usage and energy consumption, and yes, 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:05.920 water is a part of that. So these are all 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:09.520 the important elements, which is why the city is taking 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:12.760 a step to say, hey, let's uncover all of this, 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:15.440 because we are seeing this evolve over the news and 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:19.120 around the world, and Cincinnati is no different than any 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:21.960 other city in this country trying to innswer these questions. 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:24.400 I think we're putting ourselves in a really great position 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.040 by saying, hey, let's go ahead and do and overlay 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:29.320 on a certain area of the city so that we 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:31.400 can actually get ready. Because the last thing we would 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:34.640 want to do is to have one data centers just 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.560 popping up all over the place, and then they're you know, 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:41.360 taking a lot of good demands off of the bridge. 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:44.880 And so because right everyone spects to come home and 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:48.280 power their home and with on the lights and all 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:51.360 of those things, and those that are using solo panels, 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.320 you know, that's also quite exciting. And so it becomes 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:57.000 a moment where we can think about, one, how do 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:01.200 we actually mitigate interview consumption by way of all of 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:06.120 these things that could be incentives to help reduce demands. Yeah, 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:07.520 you know, solar panels and. 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:08.480 All of the abolt. 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.000 Well, now's the time to look at this, and I'm 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:13.200 glad you are, Mika Owens. You know, I was just 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:15.320 thinking top of my head the Queen's Gate area, lower 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.960 Price Hill, that area is in need of development, and 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:20.280 the question is what to do after the New Brunch 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:23.880 bench Bridge corridor projects done. Hell, we haven't started digging 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:25.960 the holes yet, that that'd be a good time maybe 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.080 to put the pipe in the like in at that 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:30.680 point to get the water into the intake and outflow 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.480 from the Ohio River. I mean, just now's the time 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:35.280 to be thinking about, Hey, where could we put one 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:38.080 of these big plants in Cincinnati. 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:43.560 Absolutely. I mean Queens Queen's Gate, aliso A Mountains, the 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:47.360 West End is a place that has so much promise 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:51.640 considering what happened and what devastated that community. I seventy 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:54.640 five and you know you had it was a plus 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:58.160 storing place for black people in this city. You end 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:01.200 up migrating in other spaces. We think about the Western 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:05.880 it definitely has to include housing and you know, amenities 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:09.440 and syntheist as well. And so you know, somebody an 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:12.880 exciting conversation to think about what that mix of things 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.520 look like for the Western right. 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:18.320 Mika Owen's council person on the Scotsland Show on seven 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:22.600 hundred WLWD city trying to fast track a temporary moratorium 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:25.560 just a pause data centers coming to the City of 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:27.880 Cincinnati and trying to get some policy together. 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:28.440 Uh. 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:30.600 But at the same time, I look at Columbus and 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:32.960 Columbus is rolling out the red carpet for Meta and 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:36.679 Amazon and Google Data. Why are we pumping the brakes 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:38.560 If Columbus is moving forward, are we going to get 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:39.079 left behind? 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:42.680 Well? And that's what we don't want, right and so 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:44.920 I think what we need to do right now is 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:48.319 define what data centers are, and maybe Columbus look ahead 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.959 of us and doing that. We're currently in our code 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.960 are learning, so we have no definition. So it's important 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:58.440 for us to stop recognize what a data center might be, 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:02.640 put that define to it so that the underlying zoning 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.360 is appropriate. So at the end of the day, and 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:10.679 we're talking about character in a particular community and maintaining 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.840 that esthetic and quality, all of those pieces have to 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:16.959 be built in at the base level. So you know, again, 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:22.960 maybe Coumbus zoning UH is exponentially you know, moving moving 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:26.520 quicker than ours, but we certainly want to to your point, 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:29.080 this is a moment of revolution where we cannot be 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:33.120 left behind, not only by way of policy and how 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:36.480 we use this in the at the city, but also 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:40.480 by way of attracting new businesses to the signal to 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:40.960 the region. 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:43.959 Gotcha, gotcha? Mika Owens on the show, where are you 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:45.280 at Kroger? What's going on? 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:45.880 You checking out? 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:46.480 What's going on? 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:49.200 Gosh? I started, I sent so funny. I am at 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:52.600 a coffee shop in college tail. You know, a girl 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:54.760 got many things to do in the morning. We could 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.920 do model tacting, but I do want to say Scott 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:00.800 just one thing about the small your as fictions and 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.839 the county at large. This is where you know, commissioners 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:07.120 will have to tackle with this issue because when we 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:12.040 think about land availability and we think about smollogiers, fictions 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:15.920 that are not even set up with departments like planning 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:19.640 and dealing with zoning reform, these are the questions that 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:22.720 certainly we will have to wrestle with and be prepared for. 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:27.480 Has the city had or scheduled talks with Duke Energy 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:30.480 to see if they are great our infrastructure locally can 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:31.480 handle this or is that too. 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:34.520 Far out that that's the part of what what will 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:37.360 happen over the next three months while you know, the 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:40.200 administration is doing this work, so we're talking about the 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:45.800 deep uh nitty gritty detail information that will be needed 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:50.559 to to to make this viable, right and so uh, 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:53.640 you know, engaging with with Duke is at the top 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:54.240 of the list. 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:54.880 Uh. 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:56.840 And then you know, as it relates to how do 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:01.640 we really coordinate energy and utility usage if someone wants 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:04.560 to come here and open a data center, is the. 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:08.320 Three months moratorium a hard deadline? Because you know, personally 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:11.280 I think it should be because too often in government 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.120 and you've seen this Meka Owens where it's like, hey, 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:15.600 give us three months, Well we need another three months. Well, 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:17.840 next thing, you know, it's a year and no one's 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.440 talking to anybody, and now the fruit is just withering 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.920 on the vine and we're getting passed by. I mean, absolutely, 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.080 do the due diligence. I you know, you know the 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:27.360 residents and other areas that are undergoing this. 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:28.720 You know, you should be. 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:30.760 Involved in your community and decide what's going on. There's 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:33.440 no question about it in this case. I just wonder 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:35.600 sometimes you go okay, and then we're onto the next thing, 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:37.120 and next thing, you know, it's like P and G 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:40.200 and Kroger are thinking about moving out because they need 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:42.360 they need more more data and they can't get it 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:43.840 because you're you're sitting on things. 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.520 So will this wrap up in three months? 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:51.040 We're hoping so. But I think what's what's key here 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:55.079 is quality and not necessarily the speed of you know, 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:58.160 the speed of getting there is really getting the right 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:02.240 answer to the question. And so while the administration is 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:05.560 moving towards, you know, being doing this in three months, 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:07.480 first of all, we still have to pass this today, 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:12.960 but we are giving some flexibility for an extension if 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:15.240 we don't uncover all of the things that we need 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.280 to because at the end of the day, you have 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:21.480 one not only the responsibility of cities to really do 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:24.000 this and look at this and examine this thoroughly, but 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:27.640 you also have concerns from citizens who some of us 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:29.920 don't even know what AI is or what it does. 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:34.200 And so we're also in an environment where we all 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:38.600 have to get educated on this revolution because again, it's 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.160 in all of our lives right now and it's here 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:44.880 to stay. And as I've been in AI conversation just 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:49.040 with you know, some stakeholders in the city, one of 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:53.240 the pieces is, yes, let's educate ourselves on how to 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.480 use this as an everyday user as a resident. And 0:12:56.559 --> 0:13:01.200 so there's a lot that I think in the next. 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:05.280 Three months, no question about mick owens, the more times 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.040 in place. It's going to go on for three months, 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:10.000 hopefully not much longer than that, and we can't fall behind. 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:10.840 We know that already. 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:14.400 But at top of your mind, what are the most 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:16.600 adverse in facts you're concerned about in your mind? 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.040 Is is it energy costs? Is for the environment? Is 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:20.880 it noise? Is it traffic or something else? 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:25.920 The highest concern for me would be energy consumption. So 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:30.760 if we can figure out the correct balance to that, 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:31.960 that's going to be priority. 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:32.280 Again. 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:34.839 We have done so much work on the groups of 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:39.800 NATI Plan and continuing to be responsible to our natural 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:43.520 resources will always be the city highest priority. 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:49.040 Okay, obviously the city's behind moving forward with a data 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.480 center somewhere, and I know that. I've talked to people 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:53.720 before and said, well, it's difficult to build up with 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.080 a huge data center. You know, we have some big 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.760 empty buildings. It'd be great for that, but the problem 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:01.160 is that the batteries waste much. It's about floor loading, 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.160 and you just can't build a floor the cost. It's 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:06.800 cost prohibited build upward because of the weight of these buildings, 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:09.280 so it has to be more expensive. Although there's some 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:12.720 areas in other cities where they're doing smaller data centers 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:15.000 as well, and maybe a number of smaller data centers 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:17.200 versus a big one, but then of course there's that 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:20.440 there's that cost issue for these big companies doing it. 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:22.440 Whether it's it's good to put it in since. 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:22.760 Of that or not. 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:24.440 It'd be nice if you guys go, hey, listen, we're 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:26.760 going to set aside an area or a district or 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.640 here's here's there's three different sites you can choose from. 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:31.840 You'll pick one and we'll get you a deal on 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:33.880 the property because it's being unused and it's going to 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.560 add to the tax space. And so it's an opportunity 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:39.160 for local government here to be forward thinking and get 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:40.760 their arms around the problem we're all going to face 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:41.240 at some point. 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:41.680 For sure. 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:45.280 Yeah, absolutely all of the above, which is why you know, 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:50.120 creating this overlay district is important. And what we have 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:53.960 asked the administration to also do is to consider policies 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:57.800 that would helps supplement what they're going to be uncovering. 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:00.640 And so by way of yes, are there is their 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:05.040 need for certain instances, is their need to uh look 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:08.320 at things like you know cras and uh and other 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:13.920 you know abatement strategies that will help to be not 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:18.000 cost prohibited but actually helped to get projects across the 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:21.480 finish line, right by which you know, we're making sure 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:24.360 that one we are you know, energy consumption as it's 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:27.240 popular with and that not being a at first impact. 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:27.640 Right. 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.120 You look at communities around and I'm sure at some point, 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:31.520 if you haven't already make it you're going to talk 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.360 to folks in more mount orb for example, where you 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:36.760 get a small genets packed with people because they're worried 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:38.640 about the data center coming in and what it's going 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:40.480 to do to their community and quality of life, which 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:43.720 are reasonable concerns. Even if you come up with a 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:45.960 plan for this too, I'd imagine there's gonna be sizeable 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:49.600 backlash from people in the Cincinnati community that's simply regardless 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.440 of how well thought out it is, simply don't want it. 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:53.680 How do you address those people? 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:58.000 Well, we ask the administration and in the you know, 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:01.480 in this process which early outlines that you have to 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:04.200 do a public hearing on these things. But I think 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.440 we want to go a buzz and beyond that because 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:10.960 of the sensitivity of this, uh, this conversation around AI, 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:15.160 and so what we're thinking is that this will look 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:18.760 like you know, engagement that is not similar sometimes when 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:21.080 we're kind of a directing some of these zoning issues 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:25.320 to that point, so that we can address people's concerns upfront, 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.560 because it's the moment where we're all learning, truly, and 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:32.720 the administration, uh, you know, acknowledges that, and so they're 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:34.400 just going to have to take the time to do 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.240 the right work, the quality work, to make sure we 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:38.760 are moving in the right direction. 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.520 Well, coffee you're going with this morning at the coffee shop? 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:41.760 There? 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:42.400 What do you got? 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:42.720 Oh? 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:46.160 You know, sometimes I'm a lot taker to go grab it, 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:47.640 but I love vanilla. 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:51.640 You like you like a grande. You a big one. 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:52.960 You bring your own mug. What do you got work 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:53.400 in Armica? 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.920 Oh? Well, you know, I always enjoyed turning out of 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:01.040 the mud, so hopefully they have. But even if don't, 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.440 you know, it's nice to be in a coffee with 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:04.119 good people. 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:05.440 Yeah, exactly, exactly. 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:07.160 And do you also have to get like a giant 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.159 jug of water for that flower that you wear on 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:09.719 your lapel? 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.600 Yes, I try to make Marty water me as well. 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.320 I know one of these days, you know, someone might 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:19.440 come up and try to smell it, and. 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:22.719 Yeah, well I'm afraid water is gonna shoot out at 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:23.000 me though. 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:24.240 That's the thing I know, that gag. 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:26.800 Well, that's your hook and it works. It works for 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:28.800 that thing is. It's awesome and it's good to talk 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:30.840 to you, Mika. You have a great day. Okay, thanks again, 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:33.800 all right, she's a council member. Mika Owens on the 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:37.399 show on seven hunderd WW from easily the loudest coffee 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:40.040 shop in Cincinnati. It was in CVG or something. I'm 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:42.439 not quite sure, but Meek always a pleasure to talk to. 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:44.080 And this is an issue that's gonna hit all of 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:45.680 us somewhere, no matter where you live. There's going to 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:48.080 be the issue of bringing in AI data center in 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:52.320 and it's something we demand. It's it's hard to vilify 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:54.840 the companies that are doing this because it's me and 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:57.719 you that are driving it. And that's the whole nimby thing. Anyway, 0:17:57.720 --> 0:17:59.480 News on the Way when a return on the show, 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:02.920 we'll keep it at Cincinnata. Christy Samod's here from three CDC. 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:05.919 All right, the convention center's open. They got ten point 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.720 one million for the naming rights. And now what about 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:11.520 that big hotel? When can we get this whole thing done? 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:16.920 News first though, on seven hundred WLW Scott's Loan Show, 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:20.840 seven hundred WLW. So the area around the convention Center 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:22.680 is it's starting to blow up. It's going to a 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:24.600 lot different when you go down there for opening day, 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:27.320 for sure, if you're down that way, it's open. Obviously 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:29.359 has a new sponsor and name. There's a new outdoor 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:31.760 events area coming soon, the new hotel, which is a 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:35.720 big question is how soon and when is that hotel. 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:36.040 Going to go down? 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:37.840 And when are we gonna open things up and also 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:40.000 get the flow of money coming back downtown from the 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:43.080 convention business. She has all the answers. And it's our 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:46.000 friend Christy Samod from three CDC. She's the senior vice 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:49.919 president of Events. Christy, welcome back. Haw's life great? 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:50.520 Great? 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:51.199 How's life for you? 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:53.000 Everything's pretty pretty good. 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:56.000 I am enjoyed by I'll tell you what. We're running 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:59.040 around yesterday in our underwear. That's how warm it was outside. 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:01.160 How about you? Oh my god? 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:04.400 Same? Please say you know it's bring happiness. 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:07.560 Yeah, walking around in a T shirt and shorts, shoveling 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:10.320 the crap off the autumn of the driveway going it's 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:12.680 like thirty degrees out it feels I'm sorry, it's fifty degrees. 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:17.160 It feels like it's ninety. It's insane. It's insane. 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:20.080 Ice yeah, yeah, the last week of the ice DN 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:21.760 and so it's nice as the blood of people are 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:24.400 just like skating with their T shirts on. It might 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:26.439 be a little sloppy, but it's great all right night. 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:28.480 Yeah, so the rinks still still going until you shut 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:30.680 that down. That's even late, I think by your standards 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:32.879 if I'm mistaken, But again, that's part of the new 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:36.480 outdoor events area conject right adjacent to the convention center. 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:39.760 Yesterday the big press conference where they announced the name 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.960 and uh, the it's no longer the Duke Energy Convention Center. 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:45.280 It is now the Donald J. Trump First Financial Bank 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:46.000 Convention Center. 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:48.360 That's right, right? 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:51.760 Was that an honor? That was an eye roll? This 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:54.359 is what that one? His name's on everything? What his 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:55.439 name's on every other building? 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:58.760 I just no, First Financial paid a lot of money 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:00.600 to get the naming rights, right the like the next 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:03.000 fifteen years, where does that money go. 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:08.920 It's gonna, you know, help with the convention center, and 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:12.479 it's gonna pay pay down the debt. So you know, 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:16.680 it's it's crazy. The corporate community in Cincinnati and it 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:21.960 really makes Cincinnati, you know, vibe. Without our corporate community, 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:23.280 we wouldn't be able to do all of the great 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:26.480 things that we've been able to do. And so they 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:28.399 really were able to make this deal happen. 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:31.200 Yeah, gotcha, And it's awesome because I haven't been in yet, 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:33.760 didn't get a chance to go to Redsfest, but I'm 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:35.159 sure in the coming year this was an event I 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:37.399 wind up going to and being part of, So I 0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:39.720 can't wait to see it. But that aside, I mean 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:43.120 to look spectacular for sure, and it was much much 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:45.399 needed to try and get that convention business. But the 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:47.439 other part of this is we've got to get that 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:49.399 hotel done, and we're not going to have that for 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:52.280 what another twenty six months roughly. How do you how 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:54.760 are you able to compete for convention business now with 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:55.800 a new center no hotel. 0:20:57.200 --> 0:20:59.119 Yeah, well, I mean I think you know, if you 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:02.640 look at the proximity of how many hotels are surrounding 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:06.119 our convention center, we we have that we have the rooms, 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:07.880 we start to get creative, and I think it's how 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:11.760 we sell the convention, how we pitch it to different cities, 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:15.600 on what the our conventions that are bring that other 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:17.520 cities don't. And I think it's you know, when you 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:21.680 walk out that door, the amount of you know, restaurants 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:24.280 that you see that are all locally owned the right 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:26.840 outside that doorstep, you know, you're embraced with you know, 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:29.440 umcry Clasa that ice drink. Now it'll be a new 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:32.399 event space. You've got Fifth Streets that's connecting the Fountain Square, 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:34.919 so there's a ton of different amenities that you know, 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:37.960 along with connecting all of these other hotels. I think 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:40.800 we're totally fine to your point. You know, it'll be 0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:44.080 construction will be complete, you know in Q three and 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:48.280 twenty twenty eight approximately, but we're selling conventions, you know, 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:49.560 up until twenty thirty. 0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:54.800 Yeah, And what's a response been from people in conventions 0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:56.520 that you try to a book for them and they're 0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:58.640 aware it's a new convention center, they're excited to come 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:00.240 to Cincineta, have been there in the past. 0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:03.600 Just what's that relationship like, they're really excited. 0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:06.040 And you know, our friends at Visissippi and Legends Global 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:08.480 or are going to a ton of different trade shows. 0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:10.320 They're getting in front of all of these people, they're 0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:13.200 inviting them to see the space, and there's a lot 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:15.760 of excitement. And I think that even you know, the 0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:21.200 amenities within the convention center are you know, incredibly upgraded now, 0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:23.520 but even the exterior when you're walking down Fistreet, when 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:26.520 you're looking at you know, I was walking the Salvo 0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:29.199 the Salzar the other night and the boat show is 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:32.119 loading in and you could see everything happening within those walls, and. 0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:33.560 Just the excitement, you know. 0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:37.119 I mean last week we had Fear Fact and just 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:39.200 all of the different things, all the activity that is 0:22:39.240 --> 0:22:40.440 bringing back to that neighborhood. 0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:42.680 It's it's awesome. Yeah. 0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:44.760 And this may be outside you because you're you're more events. 0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:45.480 I know that, Christy. 0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:47.800 But first, financial span, like ten point one million over 0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:51.000 fifteen years, is some of that money or you mentioned 0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:53.880 going to pay down the debt. If the hotel performs 0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:56.720 better than projected and doesn't need get capital fund support, 0:22:57.680 --> 0:22:59.360 does that money go back into the general fund? 0:22:59.440 --> 0:22:59.720 You know. 0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:05.520 For the hotel that I don't know. 0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:08.040 Okay, Yeah, that's fine because I was learning, like, well, 0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:09.520 you know people, I was like, well, what happens to 0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:11.800 the hotel doesn't fill up? It sounds like we're going 0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:13.600 to have a pretty long waiting list. I mean, just 0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:16.080 I can tell sense the excitement in your voice about 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:18.400 how many new people or how many bodies and conventions 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:20.679 are going to come to Cincinnati just for this, And 0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:22.560 I would if that's the case, you're probably going to 0:23:22.640 --> 0:23:25.200 be good for the next ten years or so I'll 0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:27.840 be able to pay that debt down sizably. So I 0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:30.119 had not with this project, I'm not worried about it. Well, 0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:32.200 what if it underperforms the economy hits I mean that 0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:35.960 could happen, but an effect everywhere generally. I think when 0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:37.960 you're in the convention business, if you build something new 0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:39.919 and shiny and bright, a lot of people are going 0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:40.880 to want to come check it out. 0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:41.560 Is that true? 0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:42.919 That is? 0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:45.200 And also I mean they've done a really good job 0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:47.639 on the capital stack of diversifying the different funds, so 0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:49.840 it's not just one source that needs to be you know, 0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:52.119 it's not just the performance of the hotel. There's a 0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:54.959 lot of different areas that need to succeed, and I 0:23:55.000 --> 0:23:58.040 think that that's helped spread the risk. 0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:02.600 Out right, Christy samadrid on the next step downtown, and 0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:05.520 that is a brand new show piece hotel next to 0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:07.320 the convention center that's not going to be ready for 0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:10.639 another twenty six months roughly before we can start getting 0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:14.119 that connection together. It's not stopping, of course, the people 0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:17.640 booking events at the convention center, but moving forward, it's 0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:18.920 going to be a little while before we can get 0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:21.160 that going. I know, Portman Holdings is behind this. They're 0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:23.919 the developer with the hotels. Do they have a what 0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:28.080 is their track convention hotels? And I'm sure you're expecting 0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:31.400 them to deliver by the second quarter of twenty twenty eight, 0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:33.600 and there's clauses and everything else to get the work done. 0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:35.600 But have they done other convention projects? 0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:37.359 Yeah? 0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:39.240 Well, and I think that as you know, with our 0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:41.800 partnership with Portman, you know, we will be working hand 0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:45.280 in hand, as you know, managing that project with them, 0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:47.280 and so I think that we have a great track 0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:50.080 record on getting projects some time conventions that are being 0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:54.199 one of them, and so we feel really strong that 0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:56.520 it will be complete on time and it'll be at 0:24:56.520 --> 0:24:59.040 the US the hotel, Yeah, and it's a Marriotte property, 0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:00.760 so that's that's great, world class. 0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:03.520 And Portman said they're gonna they're gonna buy another downtown 0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:06.119 hotel not yet named, not to be named. Why the 0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:09.639 secrecy behind that and and what's the strategy there if 0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:11.160 you can kind of take us by the curtain. 0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:13.000 Yeah, I mean I think. 0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:14.640 It's just you know, working on the financing, making sure 0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:16.680 that everything all the doctor in the role will row 0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:18.960 before we announce that, I think And make sure that 0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:21.199 everything's you know, tied up with a bow, and we 0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:23.520 can announce that a strategic plan forward. 0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:25.399 Yeah, because we've got top of my head. 0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:27.360 They've got the ac you've got the moxie, I think 0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:30.120 is their brand as well, the Renaissance. All of those 0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:32.960 are Marriot brands and you're adding another one. Are you 0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:35.119 worried about putting all your aids in one basket there 0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:37.159 or are you just afterwards let the market kind of. 0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:37.840 Figure out itself. 0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:39.280 Yeah. 0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:41.879 I think that, you know, Mary has a really strong brand, 0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:44.520 and so I think in a lot of cities you 0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:48.600 see that, and so we feel really strong about moving 0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:49.280 towards this way. 0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:51.080 All right, let's talk at Christy's AMoD a little bit 0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:53.760 about competition. Louisville just open there a new omni hotel 0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:59.080 connected to their convention center, and how big I guess 0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:00.959 the competition there. You don't want to say that, but 0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:04.639 there's competition. How do you pitch, like meeting planners who 0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:07.520 can lock in Louisville versus waiting on Cincinnati and the 0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:09.600 hotel in twenty twenty eight, how hard is that to 0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:11.920 book shows here? 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:13.480 Yeah? 0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:15.520 I mean again, like I said, I think that that 0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:17.959 our city has a lot to offer on you know 0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:20.280 what else the district has. I mean, there's been a 0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:22.840 ton of vestiment, there's a lot of movement. I think 0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:25.280 that while we don't have a conventions that are a 0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:29.000 proper hotel, that there's a lot of other Belgian whistles. 0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:30.960 There's a lot of other hotels that can compile. We 0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:33.000 can work together, you know, visit since he has a 0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:35.919 great service team, that they can be the confires for that, 0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:38.920 you know, the client, to make sure that it's a 0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:42.040 seamless approach. And so I think that there's some competitive 0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:42.680 advantage there. 0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:44.440 All right, so your spend how much does this spend 0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:46.679 on the WEX garage? It's like twenty eight million? Did 0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:47.120 I see that? 0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:48.840 Yeah? 0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:51.440 Okay, which is about what ten percent of the total 0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:55.080 costs of convention center. Why is it parking garage so expensive? 0:26:57.119 --> 0:26:58.440 I mean, to do it right, I mean I think 0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:02.360 that you know, a lot of people say me myself, you. 0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:03.640 Know, we're going into garages. 0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:05.640 A lot of them are dark and dreary. I think 0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:07.240 that we want to do it right. We want to 0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:11.080 make sure that we renovate this where people want to park. 0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:11.879 This will have a. 0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:15.080 Skybridge to the convention Center, and so it will be 0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:18.840 a conduit to that for parking, and so really wanting 0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:20.840 to make sure that that's done done right. 0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:22.840 So we're gonna it sounds like me, Chris, you're saying 0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:25.639 you're going to build a bougie ass parking garage is 0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:26.000 what we're. 0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:26.240 Going to do. 0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:28.159 That's pretty cool because normally you're right, they're kind of 0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:30.639 dark and dury and it seems like a I don't know, 0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:32.480 sometimes you're walking at night and I don't care what 0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:34.359 state it is and where it is, but it feels 0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:36.639 like you're looking over your shoulder. You're waiting for an 0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:38.920 assassin behind there, maybe the guy that you know, deep 0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:40.800 threat from the from watergates. So you're going to meet 0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:42.960 to have a colessed meeting, a car is going to 0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:44.160 come through and whack somebody. 0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:46.480 Generally, parking garage are pretty dreary. 0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:51.200 They are, and you know that was that garage Specifically. 0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:53.400 We're not building a new one, right, we're renovating money, but. 0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:54.520 There's always work costs. 0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:56.600 To that, and so as we're doing improvements to that, 0:27:57.160 --> 0:27:59.040 you know there will be valet from the Commntion Center 0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:01.040 hotel that will go in that. You know, we are looking. 0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:01.920 We're being really. 0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:04.639 Mindful of the entry that you know, how do you 0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:06.720 enter an exit to make sure that is you know, 0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:10.080 user friendly experience and looking all through all of that. 0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:10.960 Yeah, I get it. 0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:12.760 So each parking spot is going to have its own 0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:15.119 Starbucks and there's probably gonna be like a beer garden 0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:17.320 because I know millennials, they can't do anything out of 0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:19.840 beer garden, I know exactly. 0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:22.919 And not to mention this, just to say, because I 0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:25.280 you're parking is a big, big thing, you know it is. 0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:28.240 We are keeping it open during construction as well, and 0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:30.240 so we wanted to make sure that there's still ample parking. 0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:33.040 And so as we're doing this construction project, you know, 0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:37.800 we're shifting as needed. And then you know, targeting to 0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:39.480 be complete by April twenty six. 0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:41.400 Yeah, it's going to feel like Christy some odd The 0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:44.880 construction's going on for quite some time around there, and 0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:47.560 it's it's functioning right now, but it's hard because you know, 0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:50.080 you're putting a hotel in, you just finish a convention center. 0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:51.560 It's ongoing projects for years. 0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:54.360 So you got the outdoor terrace overlooking Fifth Street the 0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:57.640 convention center of the Wex Garage project twenty twenty eight, 0:28:57.800 --> 0:28:59.960 twenty third, twenty nine. You're in you're looking at this thing. 0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:02.280 What does that street level experience? What's First Street look 0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:04.000 like in the in those years? 0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:08.520 Yeah, you know it's gonna look extremely different, especially when 0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:10.920 you are coming off that highway. You know, on your 0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:13.440 left you see this beautiful new thought, like the new 0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:15.080 conventions that are on your right. You're going to have 0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:16.000 the convention that a hotel. 0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:17.320 It's going to be popping, you know. 0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:19.600 I mean, there's going to be a bar that overlooks 0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:21.800 this street. There's going to be full service restaurant. There's 0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:23.760 gonna be a lot of event space. So even if 0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:25.920 it's not just convintions that are users, there's going to 0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:27.600 be other events that are there, so it will be 0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:30.840 incredibly populated. And then you've got this amazing new crush 0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:33.040 that it is going to be so boogy that. 0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:33.600 It'll be great. 0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.120 And then you come on Elk Street Plaza and that's 0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:38.680 a whole nother area where you know, it's where the 0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:41.600 Money hotel was and now it's a two acre two 0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:44.360 and a half acre space that will be activated four conventions. 0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:47.600 But if it's not activated by the convention user, we'll 0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:51.840 use it as a programming aspect to again just add 0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:54.760 some life to it and get people something to do 0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:57.600 while they're you know, ask convention and they're coming out 0:29:57.600 --> 0:29:59.240 of it. And then you come and you know, the 0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:02.320 new pay s are just out there, reven cutting yesterday 0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:05.680 with paychecks. And on the ground floor you've got Slight Club, 0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:07.600 which is an often new entertainment concept. 0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:09.160 You got cells Are which is. 0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:12.040 A great new dinting experience, and then you've got I 0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:15.280 Do Headquarters it's above them with more office workers that 0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:17.520 are going to be there five days a week, with 0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:20.880 you know, plenty of office than in the Foundry. And 0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:24.800 then you follow to Fountain Square. So there's so much 0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:28.160 going on in this district corridor, the Fountain districts, and 0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:31.000 again like as we talk about competitive advantage, how are 0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:33.720 we selling this? This is this is that, this is excitement. 0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:35.600 This is the pace that you've seen and you're like, dang, 0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:36.320 I want to come. 0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:36.800 Back to the street. 0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:40.000 Right, yeah, because from Fountain Square was like like an island, 0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:42.440 and now you're expanding, right you mentioned the Founder but 0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:44.840 also the Sacks building has been rebrided that that's going 0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:47.360 to be huge, and then it spills over to the 0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:50.040 convention Center. It's kind of growing out that way as well. 0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:52.240 All in, and let's say we start the new decade, 0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:55.840 Christy Samad twenty thirty coming up quick, quicker, sooner rather 0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:57.920 than later. On the back half of this one, you 0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:00.480 start twenty thirty, everything's up and running right for quite 0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:02.880 some time. What are those revenue projections look like? I'm 0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:04.400 gonna talk about jobs and tax spase. 0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:08.320 Yeah, I mean, I think that it's a huge opportunity 0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:10.320 for sins Anti. I think that, you know, as we 0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:13.040 look at then, we have all of this dempity. We've 0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:16.280 got more traffic, we have more people falling through. We're 0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:18.160 going to see more people moving downtown. We're going to 0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:21.320 see more people wanting to move their businesses downtown. So 0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:22.920 it's going to increase significantly. 0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:25.360 Okay, I hope so, because I mean, let's face it, 0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:28.000 and I'll be critical for a second here, the banks 0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:30.240 were supposed to be transformative to the riverfront, and that's 0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:33.520 dragged on forever, and it looks like this thing right 0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:35.800 now is on track to get done far sooner than that, 0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:38.360 and we need something to get go through. Fruition be 0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:40.160 completed so you can move on to the next thing. 0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:44.840 Exactly, and I think that you know, it's through. 0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:45.440 To the mission. 0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:47.360 You know, we want to make sure that you. 0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.640 Know, under our leadership we've been pretty quick to finish projects. 0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:52.080 We want to make sure that we're being thorough, we 0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:54.160 want to be mindful, we want to be strategic. But 0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:55.719 I think you know, as long as meeting to hit 0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:58.520 those deadlines and continue to think that what's the next step. 0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:01.840 And so you know, do you say, was all the 0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:04.640 convention Center and Sound District is booming, what's next? You know, 0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:06.719 it's looking at how do we continue to connect and 0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:08.920 while the banks will be getting finished, but like let's 0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:10.920 look north, how do we can continue to connect to 0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:13.800 over the Rhine things that you know, from Seventh Street 0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:17.360 to Central Parkway one of those opportunities that again you 0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:21.240 can continue to enhance, build on and bring more vibrancy. 0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:21.520 To the urban core. 0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:24.040 Well not only that, but also let's face it, we're starting, 0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:27.360 we have begun the Branch Spence Bridge Corridor project right now, 0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:30.240 and that is going to transform seventy five along that 0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:32.239 whole area of West End, kirk Queen's Gate and then 0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:34.040 back over again. And I'm sure you guys are looking 0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:36.320 at Hey, we're growing that way. Let's just keep pushing. 0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:40.480 Yeah, yeah, I mean it gives us a lot of opportunity. 0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:43.000 There's a lot of exciting things. 0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:43.960 And I think that at a. 0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.840 Time where when you look at other cities and you know, 0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:49.760 maybe the momentum is not there and there is more 0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:52.560 of an urban spraad. There's things happening we are not. 0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.480 We are continuing to invest again. It's that corporate community 0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:58.440 aspect and you know the city that all of our 0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:01.520 different partners that are really thing. There's a lot of excitement. 0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:01.760 That's happening now. 0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:04.280 Christy Samad, she's VP of Events, she knows it all. 0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:06.000 Senior vice pro. I'm sorry you got promoted a senior 0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:07.040 vice president. 0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:07.760 Chris, Christy. 0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:09.840 Thanks for coming on the show there, Christy Samad and 0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:12.320 all the best. Thanks for answering some questions this morning. 0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:13.840 Thanks for having me. 0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:14.360 Yeah, got it. 0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:16.920 So we need some good news, right, and yeah, progress 0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:18.880 is good news. I think it's it's it's nice to 0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:21.520 have something shiny. It's all been nicer to bring people 0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:24.440 in from out of town show off our town, right, 0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:26.239 and then they leave their money here and we get 0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:29.360 to spend it. So good, so good and they just 0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:32.040 got the naming rights done. It's the first financial bank convention. 0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:36.479 I'm sorry the Donald J. Trump First Financial. Sure, Donald J. 0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:38.440 Trump First Financial said we're just gonna put her name 0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:38.880 on everything. 0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:39.280 Anyway. 0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:42.200 iHeartMedia and seven hundred w WT salute Cincinnati's own Procter 0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:44.000 and gamble. If you got someone there you'd like for 0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:46.640 us to recognize on the air, just textas their name 0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:49.160 to five to one, eight eight one and be listening 0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:50.560 to the big one, the whole of the red, seven 0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:52.080 hundred w ol the nobody Cincinnati. 0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:55.600 Here we go. 0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:58.720 Slowly, seven hundred WLW Man, What isn't going on these days? 0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:04.280 What isn't going on these there is? And you know, 0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:08.480 I was often said criminals are stupid, and I think 0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:11.560 that the we'll get to the Nancy Guthrie abduction a second, 0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:14.359 because right now, whoever's doing that looks like they're may 0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:16.840 be smarter than the average bear. But again, what we 0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:19.520 know publicly and what the FBI and authorities know are 0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:22.680 two different things. UH could be enacting in arrest as 0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:24.800 we speak. Who knows born that. In just a second, 0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:27.920 I will point out though that here in Cincinnati, we 0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:31.760 had a I don't think there's a substantial haul, almost 0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:35.120 two hundred and twenty two thousand dollars stolen from a 0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:39.320 Brinks armored car that was servicing a Kroger on Harrison Avenue. 0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:43.200 So the Brinks truck is there, and basically that Brinks 0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:47.160 truck is you know, we've seen enough movies, and that 0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:50.320 Brinks truck is a safe on wheels with armed guys 0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:53.280 like in the in the truck itself. So two mass suspects, 0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:55.120 one of them of the gun, gets in, They grab 0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:59.040 the employees's holstered pistol. Partner takes the cassettes, which are 0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:01.359 the big boxes that go into the ATMs. They don't 0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:03.640 just sit there and load the cash in. It's taken 0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:05.799 somewhere else in the boxes. The cassettes as they were, 0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:09.000 are loaded into the ATMs. And so they get away 0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:10.759 with it. I mean literally, you had two hundred and 0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:14.399 twenty two thousand dollars in your hands, which probably would 0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:17.200 have lasted these two knuckleheads easily four or five days. 0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:20.919 The box get away. So they get the getaway car 0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:24.640 and a black hooptee. It dies like they're pulling out 0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:27.200 of the parking lot with the money in the car 0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:31.440 and the car dies. You can't make this up, you know, 0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:34.080 if you're planning something like this, and I can't imagine 0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:36.239 that you're looking at a brink truck going why don't 0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:37.520 we rob that truck right now? 0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:39.120 Now there has to be some thought in it. I 0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:40.480 would think, maybe not. I don't know. 0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:43.560 You gotta at least make sure your car works. Car 0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:46.040 dies in the parking lot like you forgot to get gas. 0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:50.600 So then they take the money to a second vehicle, 0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:53.400 which is a white four F one to fifty pickup truck. 0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:55.960 Now there's a lot of I have an F two 0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:58.440 to fifty, so it wasn't me but a white F 0:35:58.520 --> 0:35:59.120 one fifty. 0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:00.160 Lots of them out there. 0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:02.200 But they spotted the truck at North Bend police did 0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:05.040 they started to chase, they lost visual on it. 0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:09.200 That truck gets a flat tire. They find it in Westwood, 0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:10.399 So now. 0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:12.920 They bring the canines up and the canine tracks are 0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:15.640 sent from the abandoned truck. They find a plastic box 0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:18.720 and some cash along the route, saying well, people generally 0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:21.680 leave one hundred dollars bills laying around, and so they 0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:26.040 wind up finding the four empty money cassettes and inside 0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:30.640 the cassettes were the fingerprints of Cavin Newbolt. Calvin Nubolt, 0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:33.880 thirty six years old to bond Hill, was subsequently arrested 0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:38.719 by US Marshalls got a cell phone left that in 0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:43.080 the disabled vehicle as well, charged with aggravated robbery and 0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:47.279 felony stupidity. I believe it's the formal charge. Felony dumb 0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:52.000 asid rate is what Calvin is charged with. Like, I mean, 0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:53.960 they think it was that close to think about that. 0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:56.200 You got two or twenty one granted on the Brink truck, 0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:59.839 and I think that'd be the hardest part of the job, 0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:03.439 right is getting into the truck, getting the guards because 0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:05.919 they're trained and they you know they're they're armed as well, 0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:08.560 and you're able to overpower the two guards and take 0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:11.480 two hundred and twenty one thousand dollars. You'd think at 0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:14.040 that point, I that's pretty good. And you had had 0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:16.640 a second vehicle ready to go. I don't know if 0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:20.280 that second vehicle was an accomplice or maybe the car jacket. 0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:22.080 It seems to me, based on the story, is that 0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:24.200 it was a second car. So maybe there's a friend 0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:26.600 in the area of some idol. But these two nuckles 0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:30.640 I mean literally it was. It was almost Bengal like 0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:32.760 in the way that this was the most Bengals criminal 0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:34.640 enterprise of all time. You had it won and then 0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:37.880 you lost it. You literally grasped the feet from the 0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:41.360 jaws of victory. Well good, More dummies off the street, 0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:46.240 More dummies off the street. We also have the Savannah 0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:48.719 Guthrie cases I mentioned. Welly, now I should say now 0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:50.840 I keep saying Savannah's is her mom Nancy. We know 0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:54.200 that with you know, ties to local ties here. So 0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:55.759 the very latest on that's just want to update, I 0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:57.799 don't have anything. Wow, a little bit of new stuff here. 0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:02.239 So they found I get and this is after her 0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:05.080 latest video she's playing for the family that they want 0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:07.360 to give him money. And I guess there's maybe some 0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:09.560 light activity in that bitcoin account that they had set up. 0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:13.840 But authorities raided a home yesterday just outside of Tucson, 0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:18.040 and they thought, okay, well, maybe this is the guy. 0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:19.799 A person of interest in the case is what they 0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:22.080 call him. It's a person of interest and they subsely 0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:25.080 have released this individual. It's about sixty miles away south 0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:28.120 of Tucon in a town called Rio Rico, and the 0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:31.160 man is only identified as Carlos. He told the man, well, 0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:32.879 I hope they get the suspect, because I'm not it. 0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:34.440 He told that to the I believe the New York 0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:36.759 Times got a hold of this guy, said yeah, well 0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:37.280 what happens. 0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:40.160 Apparently he was a he's a delivery driver. 0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:43.040 And I think with the case is somebody or maybe 0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:45.960 video spotted him in the vicinity and they tracked him 0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:48.439 down to this house and said, well, yeah, good job 0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:50.960 checking it out. And they obviously went and searched his 0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:52.920 home at or warrant and came away with nothing and 0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:54.319 empty handed and released the guy. 0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:55.080 So they got you know. 0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:56.839 And I think the other thing too, is we've seen 0:38:56.880 --> 0:39:00.080 this in the past. Remember the Atlanta Park bomb in 0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:02.200 case in the ninety six Olympics, and it made a 0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:04.680 really great movie about this, and the security guard that 0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:07.360 you know, was falsely accused and it turns out that 0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:10.400 he was false skin and by then his reputation was ruined. 0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:12.839 And in this day and age where reputations get ruined 0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:15.399 and people get docked quite literally, and Julie Balks can 0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:17.440 actually be talking about that coming up as we talk 0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:20.640 careers and jobs and stuff. Just how quickly someone can 0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:22.520 get the wrong name and just double down on stupid 0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:26.160 and ruin your life. That that could have happened in 0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:27.919 this case, I mean, it still happened at this case, 0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:30.160 but apparently they released him and said, yeah, he's not 0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:32.439 the guy, or just fall up on leads and as 0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:35.000 far as we know right now, there's no movement here. Now, 0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:36.920 you know, the other element of this thing, too is 0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:43.120 what we know could literally fill a thimble. What the 0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:45.520 FBI knows is an entirely different thing, because I mean, 0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:48.480 think about it. You've got there was a camera on 0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:51.120 the outside of the house that they found. You wonder 0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:53.840 if that goes anywhere the obviously the ring doorbell and 0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:57.080 the account was deactivated, but it goes to show you 0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:58.799 in this digital age and this could should show be 0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:01.320 sober up a little bit. Is okay, your accounts de activated, 0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:04.040 but it's still recording video and so they're able to 0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:05.960 go to ring I guess, and get some of this 0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:09.040 video that they weren't able to get earlier simply because 0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:11.200 it was they called it artifacts or something like that. 0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:13.360 But goes to show you, I mean, the camera's always recording. 0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:16.720 Just because you don't have your subscription paid up doesn't 0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:18.239 mean it's not working, and what do they do with 0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:21.040 that data? Where does all that stuff go? That's pretty sobering, 0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:22.440 I think for all of us. And there's actually new 0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:23.240 I don't know if you saw. 0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:23.440 This or not. 0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:26.600 It kind of ties in. There's a Super Bowl commercial 0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:28.880 ring doorable. I have a ring doorbll maybe you do too, 0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:33.800 And there's a new technology that if your dog is lost, okay, 0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:38.480 it uses facial recognition basically, or maybe body recognition or 0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:42.520 dog breath recognition to identify the dog and hey, you 0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:45.960 upload images I guess maybe a front side profile view, 0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:49.640 aerial view, underview of the dog, and you put it 0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:54.160 into the algorithm and it will connect. It'll go and 0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:56.440 search other ring doorbells in your neighborhood with an a 0:40:56.520 --> 0:41:00.319 radius and is actively looking for your dog. If your 0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:02.120 dog walks in front of your neighbor's door, maybe a 0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:06.480 few blocks away or whatever street over, the camera is networked. 0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:09.799 It recognizes the dog and says, hey, this looks like 0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:13.960 you know your dog. It's over here in this particular neighborhood, 0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:16.319 which is like, wow, that's pretty cool. My dog gets loose. 0:41:16.320 --> 0:41:20.400 But if it could do with a dog, right, it 0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:22.200 should be able to do with people as well. And 0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:26.319 now we have facial recognition technology available for the home user, 0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:27.760 and we've had that for a while. I've got actually 0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:29.440 a garage door open a thing that you can have 0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:31.920 a setting on it that will recognize the person, let 0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:33.239 you know who's at the you know, at the door 0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:35.440 or whatever, which is pretty cool but also frightening at 0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:37.920 the same time. So if that technoloy is out there 0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:42.120 that previously has only been available to those in law enforcement, 0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:45.640 one may ask, maybe it makes it easier to get 0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:48.399 this captive. At the same time, it also makes if 0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:50.040 you're a you know, if you're not a fan of 0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:51.759 the Big Brother TV show, and even less of a 0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:54.400 fan of Big Brother and government this has cost for 0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:57.480 concern because that's in the private sector obviously, and you 0:41:57.560 --> 0:41:59.520 just wonder the FBI has access to all of the 0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:02.200 stuff and even more, how much information they really have 0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:05.239 on what they're releasing are two different things. So you know, 0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:06.799 you want to feel like, oh my god, it's been 0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:10.000 what eleven twelve days now, this poor woman and you know, 0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:11.799 what's the state of her. 0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:13.000 Breaking news. 0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:16.080 By the way, TMZ has apparently received a note on 0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:20.319 the whereabouts of Nancy Guthrie again, this is unsubstantiated too, 0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:22.919 because they've got to confirm. We've seen hoaxes in the past. 0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:27.120 Someone is arrested because they falsely sent out a ransom 0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:28.680 notes and they had nothing to do with this. But 0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:31.200 that person's going to prison for a long time. And 0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:33.439 so TMZ gets a note on Nancy Guthrie and maybe 0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:36.360 her whereabouts and hopefully she can prove oc to her family. 0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:38.759 But the story now gripping the nation. That's the very 0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:42.759 latest we note about this in the bitcoin account. You know, 0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:45.120 there's one in the ransom note. Apparently there's a little 0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:47.960 activity on as well, and certainly law enforcement is working 0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:51.640 diligently to bring her back home safely and repatriate her. 0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:54.080 But I can't imagine the family and what they've been 0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:56.200 going through for well over a week right now. So 0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:00.399 hopefully the FBI is figuring this stuff better than I think. 0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:04.840 We talk about government agencies. Hopefully the f beyondr. Keshptel 0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:07.440 is doing a much much better job than the FAA 0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:12.520 under Sean Duffy. I don't know if you called this 0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:14.799 or not. It was kind of a brief story. This 0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:18.160 is the shoot first, asked question later part of our 0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:22.480 government here. Uh So the FAA earlier this morning, I'm 0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:25.000 just about to come in at nine o'clock and they 0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:28.240 announced that airspace around El Paso, Texas. 0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:30.360 Now you know, you know, you've heard of l Paso. 0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:31.520 I know it's on the border. 0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:33.319 I'm not quite sure exactly where it, but al pass 0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:36.560 it's a big Their sauce is pretty good. L Passo, 0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:40.239 old l Passo. Uh, it's going to be close to 0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:40.879 the next ten days. 0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:41.279 Wait what. 0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:44.560 L pass is not that big a city, but big 0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:47.719 enough to know what al Passo is. And that's going 0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:49.480 to be close for the next ten days because of 0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:53.160 what they called special security reasons. So all flights to 0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:57.200 and from El Paso, which is an international airport by 0:43:57.200 --> 0:43:59.560 the way, is shut down for the first time since 0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:03.319 nine eleven for ten days. And just the announcement comes 0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:05.040 out just out of the blue from the FAA, and 0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:09.640 everyone in the aviation sectors going what the you saw? 0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:12.040 You know, Airline stock starts to blip a little bit. 0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:14.600 So all flights to and from l Passa are grounded, 0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:17.480 commercial cargo, general aviation. The whole airport, the whole field 0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:19.319 is shut down. Now I know that there is an 0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:22.799 army base there it's called Fort Bliss is in proximity 0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:27.160 of Al Paso. It's right there. So about an hour later, 0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:32.879 the FAA goes all clear, Wait what they said, there's 0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:36.000 no threat to commercial aviation. Everything's back to normal. Now 0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:39.040 you shut it down for ten days, and then an 0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:41.719 hour later go that you know, we figured it out, 0:44:41.760 --> 0:44:46.440 We're good. It's like a fourteen year old kid, apparently 0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:48.600 he's in charge of the fa Like, I get their 0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:50.279 security threats and you want to err on the side 0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:53.560 of caution for sure, one hundred percent. But again it 0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:56.360 goes to show for those people have their political ideologies 0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:58.640 set in stone that my side's always right, the other 0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:01.560 side's always wrong, and anti America regardless to what side 0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:03.279 you stand on. And this is simply it's patently felt. The 0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:05.839 problem is, hold on a second. You just shut down, 0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:08.040 You announce to the world that you're shutting an airport 0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:10.520 down for ten days, and then an hour later you go, 0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:15.759 never mind my bed. So what really happened, Well, apparently 0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:21.440 and Mexican cartel drones breached the US airspace because it's 0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:23.880 on the border, and so they temporarily closed the airspace 0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:28.400 overall Passo and the Defense Department because well, four plusses 0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:32.400 right there put their anti drones and anti drone systems up. 0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:35.799 They're able to disable the drones. And at the same time, 0:45:35.800 --> 0:45:39.200 I guess they were also that the army was testing 0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:42.799 their anti drone technology. So we're not sure if the 0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:45.400 brief airport closure is related to the presence of drones 0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:47.239 or if it was the technology or what it was, 0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:50.799 but it's pretty clearly a jump to go, hey, maybe 0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:52.399 you know, maybe you want to talk to another branch 0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:53.759 of government to figure out what they're doing. If you 0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:56.279 shut this down because they're testing anti drone technology, which 0:45:56.320 --> 0:45:58.520 is good, especially along the border, which is even better, 0:45:59.719 --> 0:46:01.799 maybe you didn't want to jump out and go I 0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:04.000 was shutting it down for ten days because you're freaking 0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:05.680 people out for no reason in a day and age 0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:10.960 where everyone's freaked out all the time. And the fact 0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:13.080 of the matter is, and I saw this tweet from a 0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:16.879 congressman went from El Paso and said, well, I didn't 0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:19.200 know what was going on, and you know, to act 0:46:19.320 --> 0:46:23.239 like that there's an incursion. A drone incursion is nothing new. 0:46:23.239 --> 0:46:25.160 There have been incursions from Mexico going back to as 0:46:25.200 --> 0:46:29.560 long as drones as existed. So was this something was 0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:32.160 this something unusual or part of the pattern here? So 0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:34.480 there's nothing extraordinary about it, is what she said. Now, 0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:36.359 at the same time, I look at those comments and go, well, 0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:39.200 you know, if we got Mexican cartel drones over the 0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:43.279 United States, rather than going, ah, what happens all the time, 0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:44.840 no big deal, maybe you want to make it a 0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:48.080 big deal. So the other side of this is, you know, 0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:50.800 because the administration's doing it, you people going it's no 0:46:50.880 --> 0:46:53.520 big deal, happens all the time. Well, why would you 0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:58.600 be complacent about drones from Mexican cartels flying over airspaces 0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:02.279 and Fort Bliss for them that matter? I mean, yeah, 0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:04.480 I am concerned. I don't know about you, but I 0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:07.960 am concerned about that, you know, putting the political nonsense 0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:10.760 aside and just using some common dash cut just the dash, 0:47:10.840 --> 0:47:13.600 just the dash of common sense. Here you look in 0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:18.040 and go, well, okay, well we got Mexican cartel drones here, 0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:20.839 Well we can't have that. I mean, how that's more 0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:24.080 dangerous to me than illegals coming over the border. Most 0:47:24.080 --> 0:47:26.080 of the people crossing the border here just for a 0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:28.000 better life and trying to save their lives in the 0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:30.400 leves of their family make money. You know, there's probably 0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:32.279 some criminal swept up there for sure, but I think 0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:34.560 that's you know, is it overblong. We need to know 0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:36.960 what's coming across the border, for sure. But to me, 0:47:37.080 --> 0:47:40.520 the Mexican cartels find drones over airports and military bases, 0:47:40.920 --> 0:47:43.640 that escalates way above all that other stuff. Would you agree, 0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:46.000 because that is a clear and present danger. They're being 0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:50.800 run by Mexican drug cartels, like legitimately the worst people 0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:53.160 on the face of the world. So good, we have 0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:56.000 the technology knock these things down, but the comms was 0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:57.640 really bad on this, Like why would you just come 0:47:57.680 --> 0:48:00.000 out and blurt out we're shutting down the airspace rots 0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:02.480 an hour later go yeah, you know, never mind, we 0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:05.520 got it like that just and that's part of the 0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:10.000 problem here, is that, you know, there's just so quick, 0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:12.680 shoot from the hip kind of attitude it is. I 0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:15.919 think that's why collectively as Americans were exhausted because every 0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:18.400 day something like this comes out, you go, it's the 0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:19.560 worst thing in the world, and it's like, go on, 0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:22.239 never mind, And we've got three or four five of 0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:24.719 those plates spinning just like that every single day in 0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:29.360 this country. And it gets it's so exhausting. I'm not 0:48:29.400 --> 0:48:32.120 saying we should not deal with you don't misunderstand me. 0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:36.080 The drones bad thing. I don't accept the fact that 0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:39.000 it's normal to have Mexican drones across our border. That's 0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:43.759 our airspace, especially when you're talking about sensitive targets commercial 0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:47.640 and military aviation. You got to deal with that. But 0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:50.239 just jumping out and going ten days and I go, 0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:52.839 I never mind. It just it exhausts you, and then 0:48:52.840 --> 0:48:56.680 it also makes you distrustful of our leadership at this time. 0:48:56.719 --> 0:48:59.040 For sure, I'll get a news update and Julie Bouki 0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:01.680 is here. We talk career related stuff, and speaking of 0:49:01.840 --> 0:49:04.640 getting docs, there's a great story involving that, and really 0:49:04.680 --> 0:49:06.480 it's it's kind of hopeless if you're a business, if 0:49:06.520 --> 0:49:08.279 you wind up on the receiving end of the stuff. 0:49:08.280 --> 0:49:09.640 Any We'll get to that just ahead. 0:49:09.680 --> 0:49:12.640 Right after news update, Scott's Loan Show continues on seven 0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:13.919 hundred w WELWD. 0:49:16.280 --> 0:49:22.040 Giving you a vocational leg up on everyone else. Here's 0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:24.280 our career Julie Balki. 0:49:24.440 --> 0:49:28.240 Julie Bouke is here from places unknown in the beautiful Southwest. 0:49:28.280 --> 0:49:29.440 Good morning, how are you, Jules? 0:49:30.400 --> 0:49:31.080 Good morning? 0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:32.040 Just Dandy. 0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:35.000 Are you on the scene in Tucson as a police 0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:37.240 look for Nancy Guthrie any ideas? 0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:41.120 No, No, I'm in Phoenix. But that is quite an 0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:41.880 odd story. 0:49:42.320 --> 0:49:44.000 Not odd, frightening is what this is. 0:49:44.840 --> 0:49:45.240 Founding. 0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:47.520 It is in the day and age in which we live, 0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:50.400 of course, with AI and you know, now Crypto and 0:49:50.440 --> 0:49:54.000 all these things. You wonder if they're successful in God, 0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:55.759 you hope they're not successful here. But if they are, 0:49:56.760 --> 0:49:58.759 if this just encourages more people to do what they 0:49:58.840 --> 0:50:01.439 did with Nancy Guthrie shuddered to think that that's the case. 0:50:01.440 --> 0:50:04.960 But it's probably true because crime criminals are pretty opportunistic 0:50:05.040 --> 0:50:07.919 if they see an opportunity to do this good, badter 0:50:07.960 --> 0:50:09.360 and different they're going to do in the future. 0:50:10.880 --> 0:50:14.040 Yeah, yeah, I just it's it's so and I know we'really, 0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:17.239 I know we're only getting part of the information to lot, 0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:22.320 but it's it's really something. Man to give me a hope. 0:50:22.120 --> 0:50:24.680 They'll get caught. You only criminals are largely stupid. I 0:50:24.760 --> 0:50:27.840 was just talking in a story here about about these guys. 0:50:27.840 --> 0:50:30.919 They Robbie Brinks truck here in Cincinnati. They get away 0:50:30.960 --> 0:50:33.719 with almost two hundred and twenty three thousand dollars. They 0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:36.200 get the cassettes, which, as you know, the money is 0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:37.920 put in a cassette which is a big box that 0:50:37.960 --> 0:50:39.920 then goes into the ATM so you can get your 0:50:39.960 --> 0:50:42.520 money out if your cash money player like you. And 0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:45.000 so they got like four or five cassettes. They steal 0:50:45.040 --> 0:50:46.840 two hundred and twenty three thousand dollars. They get in 0:50:46.880 --> 0:50:49.799 their getaway car, it dies getting out of the parking lot. 0:50:50.040 --> 0:50:52.560 They then get picked up by a four f one 0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:55.160 fifty that then gets a flat tire. They find the 0:50:55.239 --> 0:50:58.880 cassettes near the truck and it's got the guy's fingerprints 0:50:58.880 --> 0:51:02.680 all over. Oh god, Oh and he left his cell 0:51:02.719 --> 0:51:04.840 phone and he left his cell phone in the first. 0:51:04.640 --> 0:51:09.480 Car that's there. 0:51:10.360 --> 0:51:12.200 I want to hope that there's a little bit of 0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:14.880 that guy in the People Who Got Nancy Guthrie, because 0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:18.000 you kind of need the stupidity break here. 0:51:18.040 --> 0:51:19.759 It's like, you know you're watching if you watch a 0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:23.080 dateline and up episode, after a while, you're like, don't 0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:26.080 buy the duct tape and the rope and the garbage 0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:27.680 bags and the shovel all the same. 0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:32.120 Yeah, you know, you don't do it everything, don't do it? 0:51:32.200 --> 0:51:35.279 Yeah, yeah, fingerprints and all that other stuff, and this 0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:36.560 is all has to do a lot of this is 0:51:36.680 --> 0:51:40.040 Nancy Guthri thing technology because of crypto enabling them to 0:51:40.080 --> 0:51:40.640 get money. 0:51:40.920 --> 0:51:41.160 Uh. 0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:43.439 But I also look at you know, AI look at data. 0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:44.640 I look at the fact that we live in a 0:51:44.640 --> 0:51:47.080 society now that's all pissed off over a thirteen minute 0:51:47.080 --> 0:51:48.560 free halftime Super Bowl show. 0:51:48.960 --> 0:51:49.200 Uh. 0:51:49.440 --> 0:51:52.239 In course, everyone's out to get everyone else online. And 0:51:52.760 --> 0:51:54.399 I think I brought this up a couple of weeks ago, 0:51:54.480 --> 0:51:57.000 but this guy in Clairemont Connie had to close his 0:51:57.080 --> 0:52:00.800 furniture store because of a case of stake and identity. 0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:05.439 You see this, yes, yes, absolutely yeah. It started out 0:52:05.440 --> 0:52:08.440 of Clarksville, Tennessee, with a store there called the Furniture Connection, 0:52:08.719 --> 0:52:12.240 and this guy, the guy that owns it, his wife 0:52:12.280 --> 0:52:16.000 posted something really ugly, frankly on social media, and so 0:52:16.080 --> 0:52:19.920 the Keyboard Warriors went after her and by extension, went 0:52:19.960 --> 0:52:23.120 after him because they found out that they have a business. 0:52:23.160 --> 0:52:24.800 I don't know how involved she is in the business, 0:52:24.800 --> 0:52:28.080 but it doesn't matter, because the Keyboard Warriors said, we're 0:52:28.120 --> 0:52:31.239 going to take him down, and they did. And then 0:52:31.520 --> 0:52:33.640 we have this poor guy in Claremont County with the 0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:37.560 furniture store by the same name, who gets splashed by 0:52:37.600 --> 0:52:43.920 this because the keyboard Warriors are insane and it ends 0:52:44.000 --> 0:52:46.600 up costing him his business. He had nothing to do 0:52:47.400 --> 0:52:49.520 with the one. The only thing he had in common 0:52:49.520 --> 0:52:52.239 with the one in Tennessee was the name. And the 0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:54.319 guy in Tennessee he went out there and made this 0:52:54.400 --> 0:52:58.640 public sort of this video saying that was my wife, 0:52:59.200 --> 0:53:01.239 that was not me. I do not agree with her. 0:53:01.360 --> 0:53:02.759 Don't know if he does or not, but that's not 0:53:02.800 --> 0:53:06.920 the point. And so what are we doing here? I 0:53:06.960 --> 0:53:10.359 think the the we we call it docsing, but we 0:53:10.440 --> 0:53:15.919 are in this and are we so unhinged that we're 0:53:15.960 --> 0:53:18.759 going to go after We're not even you know, we're 0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:22.040 going to affect somebody several states away. Had nothing to 0:53:22.080 --> 0:53:24.640 do with this, even if we agree with what happened 0:53:24.640 --> 0:53:26.920 in Tennessee. I mean, it's it's over the top, and 0:53:26.960 --> 0:53:29.440 it's both ways. It's both sides. You know, there's no 0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:33.120 there's no innocent ones here, and it's just I don't know. 0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:34.680 I don't know where it's going to end. And now 0:53:34.680 --> 0:53:37.960 you put AI in there. I watch things on AI 0:53:38.080 --> 0:53:41.520 now and if I look at things online, I can't 0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:43.600 It's like ill look at it and go, is this AI? 0:53:43.719 --> 0:53:47.640 Is it not? When you can make anybody say anything 0:53:47.880 --> 0:53:52.080 you can, and the AA is getting better and better. 0:53:51.840 --> 0:53:52.720 It's hard to trust. 0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:54.759 Go you kind of want to see something, Oh yeah 0:53:54.760 --> 0:53:56.920 it's A and then you think it, well, whatever the's 0:53:56.920 --> 0:53:58.960 AI or not, And that's the images and the like, 0:53:59.000 --> 0:54:01.239 but also any thing. Now, I just you, we don't 0:54:01.239 --> 0:54:04.480 trust anybody anymore, and I think this increases the division 0:54:04.520 --> 0:54:06.959 we have and just adds more fuel to that fire. 0:54:06.960 --> 0:54:08.920 It's like, well, you know, I got it wrong, but 0:54:09.160 --> 0:54:11.120 I don't care because you know, we can't. We can't 0:54:11.360 --> 0:54:14.439 we're wrong anymore. And the real result is this guy 0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:16.960 in Tennessee nothing to do with what's going on in 0:54:16.960 --> 0:54:17.760 Clarmont County. 0:54:18.840 --> 0:54:19.239 He had to have. 0:54:19.480 --> 0:54:21.719 You know, it's furniture stores losing business because of the 0:54:21.800 --> 0:54:25.160 bad online reviews and it's just nasty, hateful comments and 0:54:25.239 --> 0:54:28.279 fake reviews and threats because the person who's doing that 0:54:28.320 --> 0:54:30.320 doesn't even bother to find out if this is indeed 0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:32.280 the same place or not, not even the same state. 0:54:32.360 --> 0:54:34.600 And that is to show you the level of stupidit 0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:36.000 that's out there in society today. 0:54:37.200 --> 0:54:40.600 Yeah, yeah, it's scary, and I don't know. I don't 0:54:40.640 --> 0:54:43.200 know what is going to stop that or change it. 0:54:44.360 --> 0:54:46.239 I think it's sort of the wild West. I mean, 0:54:46.280 --> 0:54:50.240 even when you see something that's even if it's said, okay, 0:54:50.239 --> 0:54:52.360 you've got to put this is AI generated, you know, 0:54:52.360 --> 0:54:54.319 on everything you put out there, people won't do it. 0:54:54.760 --> 0:54:56.440 We make it. I'll see a thing and they'll think 0:54:56.600 --> 0:55:00.000 it doesn't sound like something So and so would say like, eh, 0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:03.080 you know, and I move on, But not everybody. We 0:55:03.160 --> 0:55:06.719 want to believe what supports our position. We want to 0:55:06.760 --> 0:55:10.719 believe what shores up. Yeah. Yeah, and we all follow it. 0:55:10.800 --> 0:55:12.840 I don't care. I don't care who we are, what 0:55:12.960 --> 0:55:15.920 side we're on. We all follow it. And so, you know, 0:55:15.960 --> 0:55:18.400 I talk all the time about when you've got to 0:55:18.440 --> 0:55:23.600 be so careful anything you comment on. I mean I 0:55:23.680 --> 0:55:27.600 see people commenting on stuff with their real names. You 0:55:27.680 --> 0:55:30.440 go back and look, and people people will then I 0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:32.319 don't like what they said. They go back and look, 0:55:32.719 --> 0:55:36.000 they find their social media is their social media accounts. 0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:38.960 They inform their employer, they inform their spouse, they inform 0:55:39.000 --> 0:55:43.640 their neighbors, they inform their church whatever it is, and 0:55:43.640 --> 0:55:45.239 and most of the time like why would you be 0:55:45.320 --> 0:55:46.680 so stupid? As to post that. 0:55:46.800 --> 0:55:49.279 We also just kind of follow what's what's going on? 0:55:49.719 --> 0:55:51.840 A funny, funny story. My wife, my my my wife's 0:55:51.840 --> 0:55:54.000 parents are in their eighties and you know, they don't 0:55:54.040 --> 0:55:55.439 stay up late enough to watch the super Bowl. 0:55:55.440 --> 0:55:57.080 Don't even care what the super Bowl is, but uh, 0:55:57.360 --> 0:55:57.960 it's talking. 0:55:58.120 --> 0:56:00.439 My wife was talking yesterday and outrage because the super 0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:02.560 Bowl halftime show, and she's, well, did you see it? No, 0:56:02.680 --> 0:56:04.759 but everyone outlie says the worst thing in the history 0:56:04.760 --> 0:56:06.120 of the world, and there should be banned. I'm like, 0:56:06.440 --> 0:56:09.719 now you're complaining about something you didn't even see. And 0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:11.680 I just wonder how many people are like that because 0:56:11.680 --> 0:56:14.280 someone told them or somebody, you know, taking her cue 0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:18.000 from I don't know Republicans for example, outrage about bad Bunny, 0:56:18.000 --> 0:56:20.000 and you know I get emails like well, Ane, The 0:56:20.040 --> 0:56:22.840 first complaint was it wasn't an English we didn't understand. 0:56:22.880 --> 0:56:24.560 The next day it was the follow awords that Bad 0:56:24.600 --> 0:56:26.560 Bunny was saying. Well, if you don't understand, if you 0:56:26.560 --> 0:56:29.400 don't understand the words and your kids don't speak Spanish, 0:56:29.480 --> 0:56:31.680 then you don't know what he said in the first place. 0:56:31.719 --> 0:56:33.360 You can't. But and I get it. 0:56:33.400 --> 0:56:35.840 You know, if bad words are said in Spanish. According 0:56:35.840 --> 0:56:38.120 to the SEC it really doesn't matter. But I'll point 0:56:38.120 --> 0:56:40.640 out that the alternative this was the kid Rock Show, 0:56:41.120 --> 0:56:43.560 and if you see the song he's saying blah blahlah blah. 0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:46.160 If you look at the lyrics of that, they're pretty bad. 0:56:46.320 --> 0:56:49.360 They're pretty offensive lyrics. And also kids should probably shouldn't 0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:51.880 be here about strippers and meth. So, you know, we 0:56:51.920 --> 0:56:54.279 just we feigned this ignorance and we already have our 0:56:54.680 --> 0:56:58.120 views not only made up, but also the people who influence, 0:56:58.160 --> 0:57:00.879 the influencers out there who we look to make their 0:57:00.880 --> 0:57:02.600 minds up when we just spout what they so we 0:57:02.600 --> 0:57:03.840 don't even think for ourselves anymore. 0:57:03.880 --> 0:57:08.319 It's terrible, no, No. And I think too that sometimes 0:57:08.680 --> 0:57:12.360 when we're really frustrated, we're really upset, we're really angry, 0:57:12.400 --> 0:57:16.000 we're really feeling powerless. One of the ways that we 0:57:16.320 --> 0:57:21.000 combat that is by taking on power in ways that 0:57:21.040 --> 0:57:23.160 we feel like we can embrace. And so I might 0:57:23.240 --> 0:57:25.960 feel like my life is out of control, you know, 0:57:26.200 --> 0:57:28.720 it's like my bills are rising, this and this and this. 0:57:28.840 --> 0:57:31.240 I don't nobody listens to me anymore, and so I 0:57:31.400 --> 0:57:33.360 lash out. I mean, just what your kids do? You 0:57:33.360 --> 0:57:35.680 know they'll come home and when they're teenagers, come home 0:57:35.680 --> 0:57:37.840 and complain about something. And I used to say when 0:57:37.880 --> 0:57:39.480 I was in HR, I'd get people coming in and 0:57:39.520 --> 0:57:42.360 complaining about, you know what color the walls were, the 0:57:42.360 --> 0:57:44.640 food and cafeteria, and I think, that's not really what 0:57:44.680 --> 0:57:46.720 you're complaining about. So I think a lot of times 0:57:46.760 --> 0:57:49.840 we direct our anger at things that we that feel safe, 0:57:50.400 --> 0:57:53.800 and when we're behind that screen on that keyboard, we 0:57:54.000 --> 0:57:58.440 feel really anonymous, and we aren't. And so you know, 0:57:58.520 --> 0:58:01.200 I think you've got to just take a pause. Yep, 0:58:01.240 --> 0:58:03.600 do you want to post something? Really think about what's 0:58:03.600 --> 0:58:05.360 the worst thing that can happen after I post this? 0:58:05.400 --> 0:58:06.160 And can I live with this? 0:58:06.800 --> 0:58:06.960 Fair? 0:58:07.280 --> 0:58:07.440 You know? 0:58:07.520 --> 0:58:09.000 Then if you want to post it and post it. 0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:12.000 Speaking of posting stuff, this Pinterest story is just buck wild. 0:58:13.760 --> 0:58:15.280 You want to lay that out real quick. Here is 0:58:15.320 --> 0:58:17.120 really good by the way, Julie Balcaore career shu up 0:58:17.120 --> 0:58:19.160 are talking job related stuff even when it's not on 0:58:19.200 --> 0:58:19.560 the show. 0:58:20.680 --> 0:58:22.560 So the CEO is Bill Ready. 0:58:22.560 --> 0:58:25.760 Bill is the CEO of Pinterest, and he is going 0:58:25.800 --> 0:58:30.360 after staffers because they tracked. They came up with it 0:58:30.400 --> 0:58:32.160 was an app or a tool to track layoffs. 0:58:33.360 --> 0:58:36.760 Yeah, yeah, so I. 0:58:36.680 --> 0:58:38.080 Got an easy solution for it. 0:58:39.520 --> 0:58:40.040 Yeah, I know. 0:58:40.920 --> 0:58:43.080 So this is just, I mean, these of the things 0:58:43.080 --> 0:58:45.040 that make me just say, gosh, I've been around the 0:58:45.040 --> 0:58:47.439 block too many times at this point, because it's it's 0:58:47.640 --> 0:58:49.840 just it's the same problems that keep coming up again. 0:58:50.120 --> 0:58:53.800 So he's mad because his employees came up with an 0:58:53.880 --> 0:58:57.040 app or a tracking tool to track layoffs in the company. 0:58:57.360 --> 0:58:59.240 He found out about it, and he lost his ever 0:58:59.240 --> 0:59:03.840 eleven mind and he called them obstructionist. What you know 0:59:03.880 --> 0:59:06.200 that it's like the who's the guy in Princess Bride. 0:59:06.200 --> 0:59:07.840 I do not think that word means what you think 0:59:07.880 --> 0:59:12.680 it means. It's not that's they're simply tracking what's going on. 0:59:12.720 --> 0:59:18.720 They're not stopping anything for simply reporting, creating transparency and 0:59:18.800 --> 0:59:23.560 reporting on what's happening in the company. And this is 0:59:23.640 --> 0:59:28.080 that CEO arrogance that says, I'm gonna do whatever I want. 0:59:28.560 --> 0:59:33.280 You clearly see what's happening. And you know, now that 0:59:33.400 --> 0:59:36.760 we have all these tools and all this technology, the 0:59:36.840 --> 0:59:41.320 rank and file employees can create transparency where they couldn't 0:59:41.360 --> 0:59:44.240 in the past. And they're saying, yeah, we're gonna you know, 0:59:44.320 --> 0:59:47.960 let's let's show what's happening here. And I think if 0:59:48.000 --> 0:59:52.360 you if you're afraid of transparency as a leader, and 0:59:52.480 --> 0:59:54.960 obviously you're not going to publish everyone's salaries. There are 0:59:55.000 --> 0:59:58.200 certain things that have privacy issues. But if you're having 0:59:58.280 --> 1:00:01.200 layoffs and you really think that people don't see what's 1:00:01.240 --> 1:00:04.760 going on and aren't talking about it, all they did 1:00:04.880 --> 1:00:07.479 was go one extra step and put it in create 1:00:07.520 --> 1:00:10.960 a tool to tract the layoffs, and that just hurt 1:00:11.000 --> 1:00:12.000 his whittle feeling. 1:00:13.960 --> 1:00:16.640 Well, I mean, you know, companies expand and contract all 1:00:16.680 --> 1:00:18.720 the time. No one's putting a side up there because 1:00:18.720 --> 1:00:21.360 they're hiring. Now when people get let go and get 1:00:21.360 --> 1:00:24.560 got got as a case, when this contraction, you know, 1:00:24.600 --> 1:00:26.240 you got to take the lumps along with that. But 1:00:26.280 --> 1:00:29.600 it's not just pinterest, it's the tech sector is hammer 1:00:29.640 --> 1:00:32.800 good jobs right now. So you know, sometimes your skin 1:00:32.920 --> 1:00:34.760 is just I mean, you got to get thicker skin 1:00:34.800 --> 1:00:35.400 if you're CEO. 1:00:36.200 --> 1:00:39.479 Yeah, that's right. And you know all the layoffs members 1:00:39.520 --> 1:00:41.360 that have crat the layoffs or the highest event since 1:00:41.440 --> 1:00:44.520 January of two than nine right now, and that was 1:00:44.640 --> 1:00:47.560 bad back then, and so yes, it is more bad 1:00:47.600 --> 1:00:49.200 news than good news. But if you're going to leave 1:00:49.200 --> 1:00:51.120 the company. That's part of why you're getting the big 1:00:51.160 --> 1:00:53.920 bucks is to take this lings and arrows and the 1:00:53.960 --> 1:00:57.920 dissatisfaction of your people. That's why you're paid well, that's 1:00:57.960 --> 1:01:00.800 why you get the bonuses. Yes, your job the tenuous, 1:01:00.800 --> 1:01:02.800 but that's why you're paid so well. 1:01:02.800 --> 1:01:03.240 Correct. 1:01:03.680 --> 1:01:07.240 So yeah, and you've got to you can't as a CEO. 1:01:07.360 --> 1:01:11.160 You can't establish trust with your people through open communications 1:01:11.200 --> 1:01:15.080 and being willing to answer difficult questions. You know, if 1:01:15.080 --> 1:01:17.360 you're going to hold that role, you have to be 1:01:17.560 --> 1:01:20.240 just as well. Look at these are political representatives to 1:01:20.240 --> 1:01:22.560 go to town halls and they don't like the question, 1:01:22.680 --> 1:01:26.640 so they leave. Oh yeah, that and genders trust. So 1:01:27.360 --> 1:01:29.320 this is a part of that response. It's not just 1:01:29.400 --> 1:01:31.960 the title in the big salery. You have to grow 1:01:32.200 --> 1:01:34.840 a thick skin and you have to look people in 1:01:34.880 --> 1:01:36.760 the eye. They may not always like your answers. You 1:01:36.800 --> 1:01:38.960 make it food, But that's part of holding the top job. 1:01:39.120 --> 1:01:40.440 That's part of what it is. That's part of the 1:01:40.480 --> 1:01:41.000 job description. 1:01:41.120 --> 1:01:42.880 I'll push back a little bit at that CEO or 1:01:42.920 --> 1:01:44.760 the case of what you're talking about. A politician goes 1:01:44.800 --> 1:01:46.720 to a town hall, right and they're elected officials. They 1:01:46.720 --> 1:01:48.600 want no one force them to take this job. They 1:01:48.840 --> 1:01:51.080 campaigned for this job, so it's a different thing. But 1:01:51.080 --> 1:01:52.200 by at the same time, you know, you go to 1:01:52.200 --> 1:01:54.439 town hall and you're like, hey, listen, I know there's 1:01:54.440 --> 1:01:57.280 you've got questions, there's tough questions, and that person's being vilified. 1:01:57.320 --> 1:01:59.160 But you know when people are actively booying you and 1:01:59.200 --> 1:02:01.760 everyone's yelling at the same time and shouting people down, 1:02:01.840 --> 1:02:04.360 I mean I get leaving at that point. It's like, well, 1:02:04.400 --> 1:02:06.320 if you want to have a conversation a dialogue, here, 1:02:06.360 --> 1:02:08.160 I'll talk and then I'll listen to your response and 1:02:08.200 --> 1:02:11.000 maybe we can come to common ground or we'll just disagree. 1:02:11.040 --> 1:02:12.680 But I'm here to answer the questions. 1:02:12.680 --> 1:02:14.880 But if you're gonna behave in a fashion much like 1:02:14.920 --> 1:02:19.600 the doctor of the Claremont County Furniture store, then you're 1:02:19.640 --> 1:02:22.200 wasting my time. So I don't blame somebody for walking 1:02:22.200 --> 1:02:23.680 off the stage at that point. If you're gonna have 1:02:23.720 --> 1:02:26.360 a respectful conversation, you want to know what I'm thinking. 1:02:26.360 --> 1:02:28.160 I'm trying to tell you, but you yelling at me 1:02:28.200 --> 1:02:31.040 and drowning me out with noise makers. 1:02:30.840 --> 1:02:33.120 It's childish. 1:02:33.200 --> 1:02:35.800 Yeah, it's a way of expressing your dissatisfaction. It is 1:02:35.880 --> 1:02:39.200 and it is. It is not saying it's appropriate, but 1:02:39.480 --> 1:02:44.120 it is. It is frustration of not it's the frustration 1:02:44.160 --> 1:02:46.280 of not being heard and having to get to that 1:02:46.320 --> 1:02:48.880 point where you're taking to the streets where you're yelling. 1:02:48.960 --> 1:02:52.600 I mean, it is an expression of frustration that you 1:02:52.680 --> 1:02:56.320 don't think the normal ways of that you already feel unheard, 1:02:56.960 --> 1:02:59.520 and we see that everywhere, and it's going to get 1:02:59.560 --> 1:03:03.440 worse because the younger generations, unlike us older folks, are 1:03:03.480 --> 1:03:06.600 not afraid, not afraid to express what they think, they believe, 1:03:06.680 --> 1:03:09.200 they have an opinion that needs to be heard. 1:03:09.800 --> 1:03:12.720 And because that's how we raise that's how we raise 1:03:12.760 --> 1:03:15.840 that generation as you were, you know, to not coin 1:03:15.920 --> 1:03:17.840 a term here, but the snowflake thing is true larger 1:03:17.880 --> 1:03:20.040 because it's like, we talked to you. You're special and 1:03:20.040 --> 1:03:22.120 you're different like everybody else, and your what you have, 1:03:22.480 --> 1:03:25.480 you have you have the ability to be heard, and 1:03:25.520 --> 1:03:27.960 you want to be seen, and you have agency and 1:03:28.000 --> 1:03:29.560 all these things. And we lift people up like that. 1:03:29.680 --> 1:03:31.240 It's like, well that's how they're going to act when 1:03:31.240 --> 1:03:32.680 they're at alls. 1:03:32.840 --> 1:03:35.120 Yeah, yeah, for sure. There's a lot of stuff that 1:03:35.640 --> 1:03:39.360 we see with gen Z. I know so many wonderful 1:03:39.720 --> 1:03:43.280 younger people work for but there's for sure there is 1:03:43.320 --> 1:03:45.320 a little bit of the chickens coming home to roost 1:03:45.400 --> 1:03:47.720 and from the participation in Trophy generation. 1:03:47.960 --> 1:03:50.120 Yeah, it's what we raise. You know, you can't blame 1:03:50.200 --> 1:03:51.960 them for the way they were raised. And we all 1:03:52.000 --> 1:03:54.000 have a hand that dad's our vault, but people don't 1:03:54.040 --> 1:03:56.800 want to admit that, right. Julie Boucair Career Shup on 1:03:56.800 --> 1:03:59.720 The Scotsland Show on seven hundred WLW, talking career related 1:03:59.760 --> 1:04:02.000 stuff from this case. Yeah, the takeaway if you're if 1:04:02.000 --> 1:04:03.520 you you know, you don't have to be a CEO, 1:04:05.120 --> 1:04:06.960 but at the same time, if you run a company, 1:04:06.960 --> 1:04:08.760 if you're a manager, whatever I think they take away 1:04:08.800 --> 1:04:10.560 with the Pinterest guy is you know, there's gonna be 1:04:10.600 --> 1:04:12.720 times where've got to deliver bad news and people are 1:04:12.720 --> 1:04:14.280 going to be hurt, they're gonna be angry, they're going 1:04:14.320 --> 1:04:16.040 to be emotional about it, and you have to deal 1:04:16.080 --> 1:04:18.240 with that. You have to be above the fray and 1:04:18.320 --> 1:04:20.840 deal with that in a calm, collected way and say, listen, 1:04:20.920 --> 1:04:23.560 I don't no one likes to lay people off, you know, 1:04:23.600 --> 1:04:25.440 And if you feel you've got to track the You 1:04:25.560 --> 1:04:26.440 just you've got to let that go. 1:04:26.560 --> 1:04:27.840 That's the downside of the job. 1:04:29.160 --> 1:04:31.880 Yes, it's absolutely part of it, that's right. And if 1:04:31.920 --> 1:04:35.960 you aren't built for that, fine, then don't take that job. Yeah, 1:04:36.040 --> 1:04:39.640 but that's that's why again, that's why. That's part of 1:04:39.640 --> 1:04:42.800 the reason that people get paid so much more at 1:04:42.800 --> 1:04:46.720 the higher levels because you're expected, you're more visible, You're 1:04:46.760 --> 1:04:51.480 expected to handle conflict, you're expected to deliver the bad news, 1:04:51.560 --> 1:04:54.680 you're expected to handle difficult situations and issues that arise 1:04:55.280 --> 1:04:58.800 in an eight fun and nobody loves it. But that's 1:04:58.840 --> 1:05:00.520 part of you know, pulling up a big girl and 1:05:00.560 --> 1:05:02.160 big boy pants as a senior leader. 1:05:03.040 --> 1:05:05.040 Yeah, and you know, I've worked for people were the 1:05:05.080 --> 1:05:06.800 same thing. It was like they're more worried about what 1:05:06.840 --> 1:05:10.240 the opinion of the organization was outside the facility than 1:05:10.240 --> 1:05:12.440 they were inside. To make well, if you address the 1:05:12.480 --> 1:05:14.480 inside stuff, you don't have to worry about the outside 1:05:14.480 --> 1:05:15.160 stuff as much. 1:05:15.200 --> 1:05:17.640 Right, So true, it's so true. 1:05:18.240 --> 1:05:20.360 Like if that doesn't get out there, well, why don't 1:05:20.360 --> 1:05:22.680 you do something to fix that? And then you know 1:05:22.960 --> 1:05:25.560 the people wouldn't be complaint And I don't know it works, 1:05:25.600 --> 1:05:28.439 but whatever, I don't know My time here is short, 1:05:28.480 --> 1:05:30.440 and so is yours. Julie Bouki our career shirt on 1:05:30.480 --> 1:05:33.160 the Scott Sloan Show, The Balki Group dot com b 1:05:33.280 --> 1:05:35.040 a uk e is how you spell her name, Bucky 1:05:35.080 --> 1:05:38.440 Group dot com career coaching consultant in Cincinnati, and she 1:05:38.480 --> 1:05:40.439 has boots on the ground helping in the search for 1:05:40.840 --> 1:05:42.720 uh Nancy Guthrie. I believe why did you go? Do 1:05:42.840 --> 1:05:44.680 you know you got time in your hand? Why don't 1:05:44.680 --> 1:05:45.360 you go help a little bit? 1:05:45.400 --> 1:05:47.040 Why do you do so? Why do you help some people? 1:05:47.480 --> 1:05:48.320 Help this poor family? 1:05:48.560 --> 1:05:50.880 Take about two hours down the road, walk around. 1:05:51.600 --> 1:05:52.600 You know you could say. 1:05:54.080 --> 1:05:54.400 Let me know. 1:05:54.560 --> 1:05:56.520 Yeah, it'd be a stringer force. Would you get on. 1:05:56.640 --> 1:05:58.960 We don't need more reporters out there. We need people fixing, 1:05:59.120 --> 1:06:01.200 helping you get this woman back? Can you do that 1:06:01.240 --> 1:06:01.600 for us? 1:06:02.760 --> 1:06:03.360 I'm on it. 1:06:04.400 --> 1:06:07.720 Yeah, let's get this Julie Bouki not only our career shrip, 1:06:08.080 --> 1:06:10.760 but our detective, our chief investigator in the Scots Loan Show, 1:06:10.760 --> 1:06:14.120 News on the Way in five, very latest on the 1:06:14.200 --> 1:06:16.920 story is again we've had someone in custody, a person 1:06:16.920 --> 1:06:19.280 of interest, and that person's come outs that ain't me 1:06:20.080 --> 1:06:23.120 So I mean we don't know where it's going right now. 1:06:23.200 --> 1:06:25.840 There's a lot more information out there than that they 1:06:25.880 --> 1:06:27.680 have that we don't. I'm talking about the FBI here, 1:06:27.720 --> 1:06:30.360 So hopefully this single'll come to fruition before it goes 1:06:30.400 --> 1:06:33.520 onto two weeks, god forbid. We'll talk about healthcare reform 1:06:33.520 --> 1:06:36.479 with Terry Wilcox. She's a patient advocate, the patient side 1:06:36.480 --> 1:06:39.120 of the battle in Washington. What progress is being done. 1:06:39.160 --> 1:06:41.760 We have Trump our ex out and some our x 1:06:42.440 --> 1:06:45.640 as the website. We'll talk about that and also what's 1:06:45.760 --> 1:06:48.120 really being done in Washington, if anything, to try and 1:06:48.240 --> 1:06:50.880 bring in the costs of healthcare. We're worried about things 1:06:50.920 --> 1:06:53.919 happening outside the continental United States. We fight over Super 1:06:53.960 --> 1:06:56.760 Bowl halftime shows. How about fighting over healthcare and get 1:06:56.800 --> 1:06:59.080 this fixed? What do you say that's next? After news 1:06:59.440 --> 1:07:02.120 on the Home of the Red seven hundred WWT, Cincinnati, 1:07:05.640 --> 1:07:08.520 Scott a film show seven hundred WLW. While we fight 1:07:08.600 --> 1:07:13.840 over halftime shows, bridges to Canada, Iran, Venezuela, whatever. Our 1:07:13.880 --> 1:07:18.560 healthcare system continues to unravel. So we have insurance companies 1:07:18.600 --> 1:07:22.560 that are exploiting ACA subsidies. We have a hospital consolidation 1:07:22.680 --> 1:07:25.960 that drives up cost It decreases access for those in 1:07:26.040 --> 1:07:29.680 rural communities. You have administrative blowed. I could go on 1:07:29.720 --> 1:07:32.200 and on and on, and we need some remedy here. 1:07:32.240 --> 1:07:34.480 Terry Wilcox is the co founder chief mission offer at 1:07:34.560 --> 1:07:38.880 Patients Rising. That's an adovcacy organization for patients, which seemingly 1:07:39.240 --> 1:07:40.480 we don't care about in America. 1:07:40.560 --> 1:07:44.560 Terry, welcome, welcome, Thank you for having me, Scott, I 1:07:44.560 --> 1:07:45.120 appreciate it. 1:07:45.200 --> 1:07:48.440 Yeah, no, prayer right now. I mean the Trump administration 1:07:48.520 --> 1:07:50.320 is moving forward with the Trump our X thing. I 1:07:50.360 --> 1:07:52.120 looked at this and said, oh, there's some some deep 1:07:52.160 --> 1:07:54.560 discounts here. But at the same time, I also have 1:07:54.640 --> 1:07:58.160 a good RX card, which is a free market company 1:07:58.160 --> 1:08:01.160 that goes that basically gets reduced call for over the 1:08:01.160 --> 1:08:02.800 counters or not over the counts, I should say, for 1:08:02.840 --> 1:08:05.479 a prescription medicine, and a lot of the Good RX 1:08:05.480 --> 1:08:08.480 scripts are actually cheaper than Trump RX. It's always good 1:08:08.480 --> 1:08:10.320 to add more into the mix to get a better deal. 1:08:10.400 --> 1:08:13.000 But you know, again, it feels to be like, hey, 1:08:13.040 --> 1:08:14.920 we're going to do something that's already being done and 1:08:14.960 --> 1:08:17.639 take credit for it rather than just fix the system. 1:08:19.640 --> 1:08:22.720 No, someone, I do agree with you on that. I 1:08:22.760 --> 1:08:25.960 think to your point, the more you put out in 1:08:26.000 --> 1:08:28.559 the system and the more options that are available, the 1:08:28.600 --> 1:08:31.719 better look. A lot of those medications on trump rx 1:08:31.800 --> 1:08:35.000 do have generic counterparts. You can find them on Cost 1:08:35.040 --> 1:08:38.599 plus Drugs, mark Cusan's Cost plus Drugs and other places. 1:08:38.600 --> 1:08:41.200 Like you said, good rx you can find a generic version. 1:08:41.720 --> 1:08:44.679 You can also, you know, find the name brand versions. 1:08:44.680 --> 1:08:47.320 And I think that's what trump rx is linking to 1:08:48.680 --> 1:08:50.960 for the most part. And I think it's just one 1:08:51.080 --> 1:08:54.360 other narrative and one other way for us to insert 1:08:54.439 --> 1:08:57.960 something into the system, to show prices, to give patients options. 1:08:58.040 --> 1:09:01.080 Right right, If you want the name brand drug and 1:09:01.080 --> 1:09:05.000 you can't find it anywhere else, you can link here. 1:09:05.040 --> 1:09:08.880 Just going to be side system manufacturers have created for 1:09:09.000 --> 1:09:11.439 their name brand a lot of their name brands that 1:09:11.520 --> 1:09:13.280 like I just said, I already have generic. 1:09:15.200 --> 1:09:15.679 Yeah. 1:09:16.080 --> 1:09:17.479 One of the other areas I want to get into 1:09:18.040 --> 1:09:20.519 is a hospital consolidation. I think that is like one 1:09:20.520 --> 1:09:22.680 of the unspoken things who often fight over the ACA 1:09:22.760 --> 1:09:24.600 and subsidies and we're going to kill the ACA and 1:09:24.640 --> 1:09:26.200 people are going to get loft off and not have 1:09:26.280 --> 1:09:29.400 health insurance, but all that money goes to insurance anyway. 1:09:29.920 --> 1:09:32.960 Hospital consolidation to me is a huge river cost right now. 1:09:33.000 --> 1:09:35.000 And so what does that look like on the ground 1:09:35.040 --> 1:09:37.280 for a patient trying to get care in Cincinnati or 1:09:37.280 --> 1:09:40.640 Columbus or Indianapolis or Dayton or Louisville. 1:09:42.000 --> 1:09:46.799 Well, basically, when you have hospital consolidation and a certain 1:09:46.880 --> 1:09:50.960 hospital system owns an entire area or in entire region 1:09:51.040 --> 1:09:56.120 or in some cases and entire states, there is no competition. 1:09:56.840 --> 1:10:00.519 And when there is no competition, there is no way 1:10:00.600 --> 1:10:04.439 for you know, patients just have to go where they're tools. 1:10:05.200 --> 1:10:09.760 So there's no price shopping, there's no looking, Oh i'd 1:10:09.840 --> 1:10:12.439 rather have this doctor that I think this place would 1:10:12.479 --> 1:10:14.120 be better for what I need. Oh, I can save 1:10:14.200 --> 1:10:16.840 more on my copay if I go here, or we 1:10:16.880 --> 1:10:18.800 could save money and pay for it out of our 1:10:18.840 --> 1:10:22.519 AHSA if we go here. There's no there's nothing for 1:10:22.600 --> 1:10:25.040 the patient to be able to think about. They're just 1:10:25.080 --> 1:10:28.920 sort of forced through. They're given, you know, a bill. 1:10:29.280 --> 1:10:31.639 Much later, I just went through this with my point. 1:10:31.720 --> 1:10:33.760 You're given a bill, you have no idea what the 1:10:33.800 --> 1:10:36.320 structure has costs when you go in, and then you're 1:10:36.320 --> 1:10:38.760 given you know what what your portion is, but there's 1:10:38.800 --> 1:10:42.800 no real conversation about what any of that is. And 1:10:42.880 --> 1:10:46.320 I think what we have to look at now is, Yes, 1:10:47.600 --> 1:10:50.720 insurance is made for emergency care, right, I mean it 1:10:50.760 --> 1:10:53.439 should be. I mean that's why you haven't you will 1:10:53.479 --> 1:10:56.479 help you from financial harm, whether it's home insurance, car 1:10:56.520 --> 1:11:00.400 insurance help, that's what it's supposed to do. And die introduce, 1:11:01.080 --> 1:11:04.040 you know. And what we have is this sort of 1:11:04.120 --> 1:11:08.240 healthcare card, right, and it just sort of pushes us 1:11:08.280 --> 1:11:13.000 through a system. And I experienced that here in Northern 1:11:13.080 --> 1:11:15.920 Virginia with the you know, folks that are in our 1:11:16.000 --> 1:11:19.839 network and patients, patients don't have any have any choices 1:11:19.920 --> 1:11:22.280 or options, and they run up against a lot of 1:11:22.320 --> 1:11:26.280 denials if they want something that the insurance company doesn't 1:11:26.320 --> 1:11:29.760 want in the hospitals do control all the pricing, so, 1:11:30.720 --> 1:11:32.519 you know, and they are One of the things that 1:11:32.520 --> 1:11:36.200 I say about the hospital lobby is the hospital lobby 1:11:36.240 --> 1:11:39.280 there is a hospital in every district in America America, 1:11:39.439 --> 1:11:43.919 so every every congressional member of Congress has a hospital 1:11:43.960 --> 1:11:47.880 in their district, right, and so it is a much 1:11:48.040 --> 1:11:52.519 tougher if it's a tough lobby to break, but it's 1:11:52.560 --> 1:11:55.200 one we need to break because it is it is 1:11:55.320 --> 1:11:58.519 monopolizing the system and the prices of the system, and 1:11:58.520 --> 1:12:02.360 they're not transparent and they're not accountable to the prices 1:12:02.360 --> 1:12:03.040 that they're charging. 1:12:03.200 --> 1:12:07.160 Yeah, the statistic is stunning as well. Hospitals are hiring 1:12:07.240 --> 1:12:09.320 ten administrators or every one doctor. 1:12:09.400 --> 1:12:09.880 Is that true? 1:12:11.240 --> 1:12:13.280 It is true from what I'm I mean, I've read 1:12:13.280 --> 1:12:17.400 the same studies you have. I Yeah, it's the administrative 1:12:17.439 --> 1:12:20.400 bloat to the map. And the truth is, we need 1:12:20.439 --> 1:12:25.719 more doctors and we need more healthcare professionals. We don't 1:12:25.760 --> 1:12:28.400 need more people pushing papers. You and I both know 1:12:28.520 --> 1:12:37.200 that we don't. And it's a disservice to access for patients. Yeah, 1:12:37.360 --> 1:12:38.880 facing shortages. 1:12:39.240 --> 1:12:41.960 That seems untembleed. So what's our tist. You're hiring that 1:12:41.960 --> 1:12:43.400 many more administrators, what's the point? 1:12:45.680 --> 1:12:50.280 Well, I you know why they hire that many more administrators. 1:12:50.320 --> 1:12:55.080 I think they created a system with a lot more paperwork, right, 1:12:55.120 --> 1:12:56.720 And that may not just be on the hospitals. I 1:12:56.760 --> 1:12:58.200 think a lot of that has to do. 1:12:58.080 --> 1:13:00.200 With well Medicare and government demand. 1:13:00.439 --> 1:13:02.880 Medicare and government medicare and government's. 1:13:04.560 --> 1:13:06.840 Yeah, you go into your typical doctor's office, there's there's 1:13:06.880 --> 1:13:08.639 eight people working there. One of them is a nurse, 1:13:08.680 --> 1:13:12.480 the other seven are like medical coders and uh Medicare specialists. 1:13:12.479 --> 1:13:14.840 That's the problem. Get the get government out of our 1:13:14.840 --> 1:13:15.280 health care. 1:13:16.320 --> 1:13:18.880 It's all in the coding. And that is why, that 1:13:18.960 --> 1:13:23.839 is why many doctors, especially general practitioner or general practice 1:13:23.880 --> 1:13:28.040 doctors are leaving Medicare and Medicaid and all insurance altogether. 1:13:28.120 --> 1:13:29.799 And it's like, look, you can pay me a monthly 1:13:29.800 --> 1:13:31.320 fee and I'll be your doctor. It's called ther ext 1:13:31.320 --> 1:13:34.519 primary care because I can charge you a lot less 1:13:34.560 --> 1:13:35.880 and see you a lot more and give you a 1:13:35.920 --> 1:13:37.360 lot more of my attention if I don't have to 1:13:37.360 --> 1:13:38.800 worry about all the take of work and I'm not 1:13:38.840 --> 1:13:42.400 going yeah, yeah, and there. You know, it's really, you know, 1:13:43.200 --> 1:13:45.720 a fantastic system if you can even find one. My 1:13:45.840 --> 1:13:49.280 husband to find one. And the waiting lists are really long. 1:13:51.160 --> 1:13:54.120 You know, people who use it tend to because the 1:13:54.120 --> 1:13:56.599 the reviews of those who are on the Affordable Care 1:13:56.640 --> 1:14:01.120 Act enjoy enjoy it. It gets very very favable reviews, 1:14:01.120 --> 1:14:02.880 which is gonna be toughly tough to undue because it 1:14:02.960 --> 1:14:05.920 is popular with people who use Obamacare, there's no question 1:14:05.960 --> 1:14:09.000 about it. However, it's the root cause the problem of course, 1:14:09.000 --> 1:14:13.320 it's subsidy is that people are paying for something, and 1:14:13.400 --> 1:14:16.840 a lot more money is being wasted because you are 1:14:17.520 --> 1:14:20.559 basically giving people about your coupon groupon if you well 1:14:20.560 --> 1:14:23.200 for their healthcare. It's not a cost savings may save 1:14:23.320 --> 1:14:25.679 you personally, and you don't care about everybody else obviously, 1:14:25.680 --> 1:14:28.600 because it's your healthcare and it's cheaper, but it's it's subsidies. 1:14:28.640 --> 1:14:30.920 The problem here, how do we eliminate all that. It's 1:14:30.920 --> 1:14:32.920 almost impossible to eliminate subsidy, isn't it. 1:14:34.880 --> 1:14:37.120 Well, I think, well, first of all, we have subsidies 1:14:37.160 --> 1:14:39.960 on top of subsidies. We just didn't approve one round 1:14:40.000 --> 1:14:43.720 of subsidies, which everyone is calling the COVID subsidies, but 1:14:43.760 --> 1:14:48.480 it is still like heavily subsidized. It is still subsized 1:14:48.680 --> 1:14:51.599 for anybody who thinks that the subsidies, that was just 1:14:51.640 --> 1:14:56.600 another layer of subsidies. So I think that you know, 1:14:56.640 --> 1:15:01.040 a lot of people will often say, oh, let's repeal Obamacare, 1:15:01.080 --> 1:15:03.800 and I actually don't think at this point that is 1:15:03.840 --> 1:15:06.880 the answer. I think the answer is to put forth 1:15:06.960 --> 1:15:11.280 other ideas and create more opportunity for patients. And that's 1:15:11.280 --> 1:15:12.960 why I'm a part of a program club Fund the 1:15:13.000 --> 1:15:19.080 Patient and giving those more, giving more opportunities I think 1:15:19.120 --> 1:15:23.520 will open up the options for patients and perhaps Obamacare, 1:15:23.640 --> 1:15:28.519 which Obamasair was created, and I as the founder of 1:15:28.560 --> 1:15:34.439 Patients Rising, we have many patients who need insurance like 1:15:34.560 --> 1:15:37.840 Obamacare that's no pre existing conditions, all of those things, 1:15:37.880 --> 1:15:40.920 and it's you know, they they they love their Obamacare, 1:15:41.040 --> 1:15:43.120 they love their aciation, and they don't want to They 1:15:43.120 --> 1:15:45.680 don't want to have that go away because if there 1:15:45.760 --> 1:15:47.559 was a time in their life when they couldn't qualify 1:15:47.640 --> 1:15:51.559 for insurance, so you completely understand that that they still 1:15:51.600 --> 1:15:54.320 want that. And I do think that there's going to 1:15:54.560 --> 1:15:57.679 come to come a moment when we're going to need 1:15:57.720 --> 1:16:02.120 to really think about how we're going to take care 1:16:02.280 --> 1:16:07.160 of the most vulnerable in our systems, that need medications, 1:16:07.320 --> 1:16:10.200 that need health insurance on a monthly basis, not just 1:16:10.240 --> 1:16:13.439 an annual basis. Right what are what are those high 1:16:13.520 --> 1:16:16.880 risk schools look like? And is that some form of Obamacare? 1:16:17.120 --> 1:16:19.800 I don't know, right, I don't know yet. I think 1:16:20.120 --> 1:16:23.439 we don't have enough options right now. Our options are 1:16:23.920 --> 1:16:27.320 employer spocket plans, which is most people in the country, 1:16:27.680 --> 1:16:31.439 you know, our employer squonsor plants, but even employers are 1:16:31.439 --> 1:16:35.519 getting completed you know, even they're covering less and people 1:16:35.560 --> 1:16:39.040 are paying more out of the patient for their health insurance. 1:16:39.160 --> 1:16:43.240 Yeah, no question, And it's hitting. It's all tens, all hard. 1:16:43.280 --> 1:16:45.080 And the problem is it's like there's no impetus for 1:16:45.160 --> 1:16:47.760 Congress to do anything. I mean, I mentioned what we 1:16:47.800 --> 1:16:50.040 focus on, what the national attention is right now, and 1:16:50.080 --> 1:16:52.120 it's all, you know, feel good nonsense. What are you 1:16:52.120 --> 1:16:56.559 doing about healthcare? And I think that people like like 1:16:56.680 --> 1:16:59.439 Green for example, she is upset that we're not focusing 1:16:59.439 --> 1:17:02.000 on the people's opposed to foreign intervention, which makes a 1:17:02.040 --> 1:17:03.960 lot of sense because that's not what Trump campaigned on. 1:17:04.080 --> 1:17:06.040 For sure, a lot of Maggie is starting to look 1:17:06.080 --> 1:17:07.599 at it go a wait, what about us? What about 1:17:07.600 --> 1:17:09.800 making America great again? I hear all this nonsense from 1:17:09.840 --> 1:17:13.160 other countries and it just a lot of it is confusing. 1:17:13.240 --> 1:17:13.599 For sure. 1:17:13.920 --> 1:17:15.360 In the core of this whole thing for all of 1:17:15.439 --> 1:17:17.080 us is healthcare. There's a lot of things we can 1:17:17.080 --> 1:17:20.479 focus on with our wallets, but healthcare impacts all of us. 1:17:20.640 --> 1:17:23.000 And you know, certainly Obamacare, as many people like it, 1:17:23.000 --> 1:17:25.559 it doesn't work because it's predicated on young people buying 1:17:25.560 --> 1:17:27.960 insurance that can't afford it. So they're not going to 1:17:28.000 --> 1:17:30.160 buy it because they're not using it, So that weakens 1:17:30.160 --> 1:17:32.120 the system. When we got to subsidize it, it was 1:17:32.200 --> 1:17:34.200 broken from the minute they signed this in the law. 1:17:35.120 --> 1:17:37.200 And now we're also the other end of this thing too, 1:17:37.200 --> 1:17:39.519 when it comes to those in Congress who aren't doing 1:17:39.520 --> 1:17:43.000 anything about this, is the fact that the lobby groups 1:17:43.040 --> 1:17:44.639 are getting to them and paying them off. I mean, 1:17:44.840 --> 1:17:49.320 we could do a widespread direct primary care, which I love. 1:17:49.680 --> 1:17:51.600 Direct pric cameric care means, you know, you cut the 1:17:51.640 --> 1:17:53.479 insurance companies out of it and you just pay your 1:17:53.520 --> 1:17:56.360 doctor directly, and it's much much cheaper because all the 1:17:56.439 --> 1:17:59.240 fat is taken out. So if you know, borring some 1:17:59.280 --> 1:18:03.040 sort of serious critical, debilitating illness, catastrophic illness, you simply 1:18:03.040 --> 1:18:04.720 go to your doctor for I don't know, it's like 1:18:04.760 --> 1:18:07.400 fifty bucks a month, and you get prescriptions. You get 1:18:07.600 --> 1:18:10.120 pretty much care when you want it. Everyone's happened. The 1:18:10.120 --> 1:18:13.040 doctor gets cash, you pay out of pocket. And yet 1:18:13.080 --> 1:18:16.160 that's being blocked, isn't it. 1:18:16.160 --> 1:18:20.760 It's absolutely being blocked. I mean there's people don't want 1:18:20.800 --> 1:18:23.840 patients to have control of these dollars. Look, we spend 1:18:23.920 --> 1:18:27.880 more than any country in the world on healthcare. The 1:18:27.960 --> 1:18:31.479 problem isn't underfunding. It's that money flows through layers of 1:18:31.560 --> 1:18:36.000 institutions and middlemen before it ever gets to the patient, 1:18:36.640 --> 1:18:39.080 and that this is turning that on its head. And 1:18:39.200 --> 1:18:42.479 this was in President Trump's Great American health Care Plan. 1:18:42.520 --> 1:18:45.479 It's what fund the patients cans for. It's like, let's 1:18:45.520 --> 1:18:48.080 get rid of that and let's try something a different way. 1:18:48.560 --> 1:18:51.840 Let's give money directly to patients and let them make 1:18:51.880 --> 1:18:54.880 decisions for their health care, whether it's direct primary care, 1:18:55.160 --> 1:18:58.440 whether it's whatever it is that they want to want 1:18:58.479 --> 1:19:00.720 to do what's best for their family, what's best in 1:19:00.760 --> 1:19:03.400 their region. I always say healthcare is local. It's actually 1:19:03.439 --> 1:19:05.880 not an action. I mean, generally we take care of 1:19:05.920 --> 1:19:08.960 a lot of it, but it's actually a local it's 1:19:09.000 --> 1:19:12.519 your health care practice, in your where you can go 1:19:12.600 --> 1:19:15.640 to receive health care. It's all local. So you know, 1:19:15.800 --> 1:19:19.120 right now, patients are locked out of the system. Healthcare 1:19:19.160 --> 1:19:21.799 is the only major purchase in America where the person 1:19:21.920 --> 1:19:24.280 paying and the person receiving the service often have no 1:19:24.400 --> 1:19:28.320 idea what anything costs. Right now, that's not a market, Scott, 1:19:28.360 --> 1:19:32.880 that's a main right. So we need to patients need 1:19:32.920 --> 1:19:36.040 to become the CEO of their healthcare loof, We've had 1:19:36.080 --> 1:19:39.760 a very passive system for a while. Right, For a 1:19:39.800 --> 1:19:41.800 long time, it was like you remember this, you could 1:19:41.800 --> 1:19:43.200 get your health insurance and you would go to the 1:19:43.479 --> 1:19:45.320 counter at the pharmacy country and be like five bucks 1:19:45.360 --> 1:19:48.160 for generic, twenty five bucks for pre game brand. Well, 1:19:48.200 --> 1:19:51.280 we're not there anymore. First of all, innovation has transformed 1:19:51.320 --> 1:19:54.240 in the types of medications and the degree of medications 1:19:54.240 --> 1:19:57.120 that we you know, the biologics and all the things 1:19:57.120 --> 1:19:59.360 that come on the market. They're much more expensive than 1:19:59.400 --> 1:20:03.080 the you know, main brands of the nineties, right a 1:20:03.080 --> 1:20:06.280 lot of times, so I think we really have to 1:20:06.280 --> 1:20:10.160 put patients back and chalk and that's you know right now, 1:20:10.200 --> 1:20:13.639 we've got consolidation, like we talked about early with possibles 1:20:13.840 --> 1:20:19.360 crushing competition. Yeah, there's a lot to be done, and 1:20:19.400 --> 1:20:22.360 there's a lot of Congress can do just by opening 1:20:22.479 --> 1:20:28.120 up the ability to have choice. She is do anything drastic? 1:20:28.240 --> 1:20:32.479 Yeah, right, Yeah, choice reduces price. But as much as 1:20:32.680 --> 1:20:36.479 in this case Republicans scream about it or Democrats with 1:20:36.520 --> 1:20:39.840 the Obamacare, which is a really choice, nothing is getting done. 1:20:39.920 --> 1:20:43.599 So Terry Wilcox with fund the Patient Patient advocacy grew 1:20:43.640 --> 1:20:47.120 up're talking about, obviously, the healthcare crisis that Republicans and 1:20:47.160 --> 1:20:49.240 Democrats don't seem to be addressing. Now, Trump did come 1:20:49.240 --> 1:20:50.800 out and roll out trump a RAX and there's some 1:20:50.840 --> 1:20:53.040 other things. Does that really move the needle all that much? 1:20:53.080 --> 1:20:56.240 I mean, the idea that we're going to use our 1:20:56.400 --> 1:20:58.320 HSA cards going, yeah, we're gonna put money in your 1:20:58.439 --> 1:21:00.280 HSA account and you can go out and shop. But 1:21:00.600 --> 1:21:03.000 does that actually alleviate where we're talking about You're just 1:21:03.000 --> 1:21:05.719 going to wind up because if it's so bloated and inflated, 1:21:05.800 --> 1:21:07.800 you're just going to take the little money you have 1:21:07.960 --> 1:21:10.479 and continue to throw it into companies that have a 1:21:10.479 --> 1:21:11.639 lot of waste, fraud abuse. 1:21:14.000 --> 1:21:17.840 I mean, it's a good question, what you know. I 1:21:17.880 --> 1:21:19.760 think one of the things that we have to think 1:21:19.800 --> 1:21:24.679 about is you can't just then say your only option 1:21:25.040 --> 1:21:28.280 is this one kind of plan. I think one of 1:21:28.320 --> 1:21:30.280 the things that has to be done is not just 1:21:30.479 --> 1:21:36.200 not dismantling Obamacare, in my opinions, but creating other options 1:21:36.200 --> 1:21:38.280 so that there's other types of plans out there that 1:21:38.360 --> 1:21:43.120 there are actually you know, catastrophic plans of yesteryear that 1:21:43.160 --> 1:21:46.040 are beyond a few months right, that people can make 1:21:46.120 --> 1:21:50.200 that choice, that people can, like you said, get direct 1:21:50.240 --> 1:21:52.639 primary care, other types of health care that they deal 1:21:52.720 --> 1:21:55.439 is best for their families and make those decisions. I 1:21:55.479 --> 1:22:00.360 think one patients are in control of their healthcare dollar orders, 1:22:01.040 --> 1:22:04.240 that that will open up more competition. I don't think 1:22:04.280 --> 1:22:06.960 we know the full answer to what that is, and 1:22:07.000 --> 1:22:09.640 I think we have to, you know, step out a 1:22:09.640 --> 1:22:11.880 little bit and trust the people. Even if it's the 1:22:11.880 --> 1:22:14.760 pilot program. We're going to try this. Let's see how 1:22:14.800 --> 1:22:17.960 this moves the needle. Yeah, I don't think that you 1:22:18.040 --> 1:22:22.280 don't get something that's floated over decades and change it over. 1:22:23.200 --> 1:22:26.320 And we all know anything having to do with government 1:22:26.400 --> 1:22:29.240 is not going to change overnight, right, So how can 1:22:29.280 --> 1:22:33.160 we take steps to move in the right direction to 1:22:33.200 --> 1:22:34.559 give patients more agency? 1:22:34.680 --> 1:22:36.800 And I don't know if we will, because Alan said 1:22:36.800 --> 1:22:38.439 the easiest thing to do is your Congress will go 1:22:38.479 --> 1:22:41.040 Look from now on, you can't you know, employer can't 1:22:41.040 --> 1:22:42.920 give you healthcare, and now we all people who have 1:22:42.920 --> 1:22:45.040 it less seemingly like it. I know ours is great 1:22:45.280 --> 1:22:46.880 and I certainly won't want to give it up. But 1:22:47.000 --> 1:22:48.760 the only way to wipe all this stuff out is 1:22:48.800 --> 1:22:50.920 say you know, government's out of outside of medicaid, but 1:22:51.720 --> 1:22:54.000 you know, government insurance companies go buy it like you 1:22:54.040 --> 1:22:56.240 buy your homeowners, your car insurance and everything else in 1:22:56.240 --> 1:22:58.679 the free market. Uh, And there'll be enough savings left 1:22:58.720 --> 1:23:01.360 over from the bloat to fly people who can't afford that. 1:23:01.439 --> 1:23:04.400 And the system is private because you're going to buy 1:23:04.400 --> 1:23:06.280 it with your own money. But then there's subsidy for 1:23:06.320 --> 1:23:10.080 those folks who can't. And that would seemingly work, but 1:23:10.240 --> 1:23:12.599 the problem is that the administrative state continues to grow. 1:23:13.240 --> 1:23:14.719 And I mentioned lobbyists though. 1:23:14.600 --> 1:23:16.519 And you know, it's the reason why they won't allow 1:23:16.560 --> 1:23:19.800 direct primary care is because the insurance lobby is so 1:23:19.800 --> 1:23:22.320 so fat and happy throwing money at politicians who don't 1:23:22.320 --> 1:23:23.360 want to change in it. And I don't care if 1:23:23.360 --> 1:23:25.680 you're a Democrat or Republican. That's what it feels like 1:23:25.720 --> 1:23:27.479 to me. And meanwhile, it's like, oh, here's some money 1:23:27.479 --> 1:23:30.599 for ahs. Ain't great. I'm getting fifty bucks a month, 1:23:30.640 --> 1:23:32.760 but the price of insurance has costing me like three 1:23:32.840 --> 1:23:35.120 hundred dollars a month. The math does a math for 1:23:35.200 --> 1:23:37.280 working people well. 1:23:37.320 --> 1:23:41.040 And I also think that I do think employers are 1:23:41.080 --> 1:23:45.960 at a breaking point. I do actually think that the employers, 1:23:46.160 --> 1:23:48.680 even the big, even the large ones. I mean, if 1:23:48.720 --> 1:23:53.960 you basically said, let's take you know, a portion of 1:23:53.960 --> 1:23:56.719 that many because like, look, the average family of cod 1:23:56.840 --> 1:24:01.160 at a corporation is paying it's twenty seven thousand dollars 1:24:01.160 --> 1:24:05.880 a year for their employee and their thousands to kiss 1:24:06.000 --> 1:24:09.360 or whatever the pat is. Right, that's a lot of money. 1:24:10.760 --> 1:24:13.040 You know, that's a lot of wage money. So what 1:24:13.080 --> 1:24:15.360 if they took that and said, Okay, we're going to 1:24:15.400 --> 1:24:18.960 put this amount of money into a some kind of 1:24:19.000 --> 1:24:24.880 special employer HSA or employer account where you you go 1:24:25.000 --> 1:24:28.400 choose it. Because I do always I am a firm 1:24:28.439 --> 1:24:32.519 believer that the healthcare plan, whatever it is, should follow 1:24:32.560 --> 1:24:35.720 the patient. I do not think that my I do 1:24:35.840 --> 1:24:39.439 not want my employer in charge of what plan I 1:24:39.520 --> 1:24:42.080 pick or what it is, how much it costs. I 1:24:42.080 --> 1:24:46.160 would rather have the money and shop. And it's because 1:24:46.640 --> 1:24:50.120 prices are hidden from patient. It's because patients don't have 1:24:50.160 --> 1:24:53.040 to say that the pricing is so bloated and out 1:24:53.080 --> 1:24:53.559 of control. 1:24:54.320 --> 1:24:57.200 Great, I think, and I think there's another important point here. 1:24:57.240 --> 1:24:59.519 I'll leave it at this Terry, and that is that 1:24:59.680 --> 1:25:01.719 now we live in a gig economy. You know, people 1:25:01.720 --> 1:25:04.040 are are side hustle and side hustle to become main hustles, 1:25:04.040 --> 1:25:06.639 and the side hustles have side hustles. Now, imagine if 1:25:06.680 --> 1:25:09.080 you could get your own insurance and do all that, 1:25:09.120 --> 1:25:12.840 I mean what the economy would explode because people aren't 1:25:12.880 --> 1:25:14.840 tied to one job now where they get an or 1:25:14.880 --> 1:25:17.280 one spouse gets health insurance. If you could take it 1:25:17.320 --> 1:25:20.360 with you, uh, the gig economy would be on steroids. 1:25:20.360 --> 1:25:23.080 It would totally reinvent the American economy. But again, it's 1:25:23.120 --> 1:25:25.920 all that lobby money, the insurance money, the hospital money 1:25:26.240 --> 1:25:28.240 that's keeping us where we are and keeping it stagnant. 1:25:28.320 --> 1:25:31.040 Terry Wilcox the founder, co founder, in chief mission officer 1:25:31.040 --> 1:25:34.280 and Patients Rising. They're an advocacy organization for patients. Great 1:25:34.320 --> 1:25:38.080 to chat with this morning. Terry, thanks again, thank you. 1:25:38.080 --> 1:25:40.280 You want to hope it changes, but the reality is 1:25:40.280 --> 1:25:43.240 is it really going to change? News is on the 1:25:43.240 --> 1:25:46.880 way next. Not to leave you depressed, because we'll living 1:25:46.920 --> 1:25:48.320 up a little bit. Sara at least jumps in from 1:25:48.320 --> 1:25:50.280 the Kid Chris Show. It's the Snort Report. We'll talk 1:25:50.280 --> 1:26:00.479 sports next seven hundred w W Scotts Lunch. All right, 1:26:00.520 --> 1:26:02.719 shut up with this crap. Nobody cares about the pig. 1:26:03.479 --> 1:26:06.360 Nobody cares about this shut up. 1:26:07.560 --> 1:26:08.000 You know what. 1:26:08.360 --> 1:26:10.160 She's been making the headlines too. I guess she has 1:26:10.160 --> 1:26:11.280 a deaf brother. 1:26:11.360 --> 1:26:13.880 Now, yeah, okay, I don't care. Jimmy is shut up 1:26:13.920 --> 1:26:14.519 their chef. 1:26:15.479 --> 1:26:19.080 More importantly, Chef Jimmy is here from Governor's house. Some 1:26:19.120 --> 1:26:21.320 of the best Italian I've ever had. He's going to 1:26:21.360 --> 1:26:24.320 be a marty graph for homeless kids. Next Fat Tuesday, 1:26:24.320 --> 1:26:26.599 by the way, at the Northern Kentucky Convention Center, Sarah, 1:26:26.600 --> 1:26:27.840 put those balls in your mouth and you give me 1:26:27.880 --> 1:26:28.160 a rating. 1:26:28.240 --> 1:26:28.519 Let's go. 1:26:29.600 --> 1:26:33.759 He's over there, you weirdo. Okay, wait, can you explain 1:26:33.800 --> 1:26:35.040 this this meatball real quick? 1:26:35.040 --> 1:26:37.840 All right, So, chef, he's brought food for years, he's 1:26:37.840 --> 1:26:40.840 been at the Governor's house and they brought and it's 1:26:40.920 --> 1:26:43.519 if you can get to company. It's fantastic. You brought 1:26:43.520 --> 1:26:46.240 the mushroom Mazota, which is notoriously difficult to travel. 1:26:46.479 --> 1:26:52.160 You did a good job on that one. 1:26:52.320 --> 1:26:53.160 I did it this morning. 1:26:53.400 --> 1:26:56.360 And he's got the meatballs going and Sarah's about to 1:26:56.360 --> 1:26:57.040 give us a review. 1:26:58.240 --> 1:26:59.760 Oh yeah, good good. 1:26:59.800 --> 1:27:02.000 Next good mix was born? 1:27:02.040 --> 1:27:03.840 I put too much garlic, and you know there's not 1:27:03.960 --> 1:27:07.040 too much of anything. People cry about garlic. 1:27:07.040 --> 1:27:09.200 I as as you can. 1:27:10.840 --> 1:27:12.799 You gotta have the garlic start. 1:27:12.640 --> 1:27:14.559 To smell real good in this room. 1:27:14.680 --> 1:27:17.360 All that garlic, and you got the beef. He's got 1:27:17.400 --> 1:27:19.800 short room, a little veal in there. It's nicey nice, 1:27:19.840 --> 1:27:21.880 some bread crumbs, perfect, sir. 1:27:22.000 --> 1:27:25.080 This is a delicious What's about? 1:27:25.080 --> 1:27:26.599 What if you're to have one thing on the many, 1:27:26.640 --> 1:27:27.080 what would it be? 1:27:28.120 --> 1:27:31.680 Actually the short rib? I love the short rib. Still 1:27:31.760 --> 1:27:34.519 cook it for about nine hours. We serve it over 1:27:34.840 --> 1:27:38.519 meshed potatoes, homemade, and then finish it with honey glazed carrots. 1:27:39.240 --> 1:27:41.320 Had a red wine demi over the top of that. 1:27:42.120 --> 1:27:45.160 My second favorite does the poor shank also boco. We 1:27:45.240 --> 1:27:47.639 slow cooked that for eight hours. We served that over 1:27:48.080 --> 1:27:51.639 risotto parmesan, and then we finished that with a white 1:27:51.680 --> 1:27:53.720 wine vegetable chutney with ben shat. 1:27:54.280 --> 1:27:56.160 So you know what you're doing, because very very few 1:27:56.200 --> 1:27:59.200 places are gonna do an also buco or a virgili. 1:27:59.280 --> 1:28:01.439 We're talking about if you're a telling you know bil, 1:28:01.560 --> 1:28:02.960 nobody does brigil No one does. 1:28:02.960 --> 1:28:05.080 Know the only place I had it it was no 1:28:05.160 --> 1:28:12.479 good side. This is that is my great, great grandmother's. 1:28:11.840 --> 1:28:14.519 Resting, all right, I gotta get my mama shout because 1:28:14.720 --> 1:28:16.479 she's the one that taught me how to make it though. Okay, 1:28:16.680 --> 1:28:18.439 So I passed on a few of my dishes into 1:28:18.479 --> 1:28:19.240 the restaurants. 1:28:19.280 --> 1:28:21.440 So I like the sauce sauce. 1:28:21.160 --> 1:28:24.000 That's her family sauce as well. So what I do 1:28:24.080 --> 1:28:27.439 is I do a wag oose skirt steams. We pound 1:28:27.439 --> 1:28:30.120 it out, then we we uh we stuff it with 1:28:30.320 --> 1:28:35.320 persudo guda, permisan cheese, su herbs and spice it. We 1:28:35.360 --> 1:28:37.439 slow cook it for about six and a half hours, 1:28:37.640 --> 1:28:39.479 and we serve it like a meatball. We treated just 1:28:39.520 --> 1:28:42.120 like a meatball. They're an appetizer on top of post. 1:28:42.320 --> 1:28:44.400 That's all the brazing and slow cooking six hours. You 1:28:44.439 --> 1:28:46.920 start cooking for Wednesday service on point Sunday. 1:28:46.680 --> 1:28:49.640 Yeah before before, Yeah, we have a We have a 1:28:49.680 --> 1:28:51.280 girl and she doesn't want her names Kelly. 1:28:51.600 --> 1:28:52.599 She does of our prepping. 1:28:52.720 --> 1:28:55.599 She keeps everything consistent and she's in every morning at 1:28:55.640 --> 1:28:56.120 five am. 1:28:56.240 --> 1:28:57.080 Yeah, cooks it. 1:28:57.040 --> 1:28:58.320 So you don't have to get it at five A 1:28:58.520 --> 1:29:00.240 usually today I do it today. 1:29:00.280 --> 1:29:03.080 To the woman to handle the meat the right way. 1:29:03.280 --> 1:29:07.960 Yes, Sarah, no stranger. 1:29:10.120 --> 1:29:15.040 I love cooking. I think it's therapeutic. 1:29:15.280 --> 1:29:16.439 Yeah, I love it. I love it. 1:29:16.479 --> 1:29:18.240 I get my buddies are like what you you know, 1:29:18.760 --> 1:29:20.439 like I like that. I like cooking. I like trying 1:29:20.439 --> 1:29:20.960 different things. 1:29:21.439 --> 1:29:23.400 We got on the grill last night. I'm like, it's 1:29:23.479 --> 1:29:25.400 sixty degrees outside. You gotta get out. 1:29:27.360 --> 1:29:31.479 Yeah, alright, go see Chef Jimmy and his team at Governor. 1:29:31.520 --> 1:29:34.040 So they're going to be at Mariograph for homeless seem 1:29:34.040 --> 1:29:34.920 on Tuesday. 1:29:35.960 --> 1:29:37.479 What are you cooking for that we're doing. 1:29:37.680 --> 1:29:42.800 We're doing short rib over mashed potatoes. Oh my god, we're. 1:29:42.080 --> 1:29:45.200 Doing a wild mushroom. I'm sorry, we're doing it over risotta. 1:29:45.240 --> 1:29:48.360 My apologies. Okay, we're doing a wild mushroom risotta and 1:29:48.439 --> 1:29:50.880 the short room. I wanted to do something different than 1:29:50.920 --> 1:29:53.280 we did ourn you're bringing up. 1:29:55.080 --> 1:29:56.640 And here's the thing is, I know you guys do 1:29:56.680 --> 1:29:58.120 this on the arm, so it's you know, it's for 1:29:58.200 --> 1:29:59.840 the cause. And I really appreciate you and all the 1:29:59.840 --> 1:30:02.960 other restauranteurs for coming in and volunteering and doing that. 1:30:03.000 --> 1:30:05.400 Giving your night up first. Yeah, support this clause. 1:30:05.560 --> 1:30:08.439 I think we've got over fifty restaurants from the tri 1:30:08.560 --> 1:30:10.639 stage showing up fifty. 1:30:11.680 --> 1:30:12.439 It's an amazing event. 1:30:12.479 --> 1:30:14.439 I bet this year is gonna better last. I think 1:30:14.439 --> 1:30:15.599 it's gonna be the biggest one. 1:30:15.680 --> 1:30:17.559 Yes, I know you guys are taking a hit on Tuesday, 1:30:17.560 --> 1:30:19.320 but I appreciate you, Jimmy, thanks for coming in, buddy, 1:30:19.320 --> 1:30:20.400 appreciate go to Governor says. 1:30:20.400 --> 1:30:21.880 I'm telling you, this is some of the best Italian 1:30:21.920 --> 1:30:22.719 I've had my life. 1:30:22.840 --> 1:30:26.760 It is delicious. That's thank you. 1:30:26.840 --> 1:30:27.120 All right. 1:30:27.880 --> 1:30:31.479 Have you ever gotten in trouble on your day off 1:30:32.000 --> 1:30:34.120 the boss calls you up, like, hey, you can't be 1:30:34.160 --> 1:30:34.519 doing that. 1:30:36.280 --> 1:30:37.360 We'll get back to that in. 1:30:37.520 --> 1:30:39.400 Just a moment you're talking about. 1:30:39.439 --> 1:30:43.080 But we got to give credit to Miami University. The 1:30:43.120 --> 1:30:49.120 men's basketball team is the loan undefeated team when it 1:30:49.160 --> 1:30:53.200 comes to basketball in this country. Absolutely, Arizona getting the 1:30:53.200 --> 1:30:55.720 big l the other night and they got Yep, They've 1:30:55.720 --> 1:30:57.440 got a big one on Friday night against. 1:30:57.400 --> 1:31:02.679 Oh You, Tom Brenneman's Oh You against my alma mater. 1:31:03.160 --> 1:31:04.920 It's gonna be big at my Letts. I think it's 1:31:04.920 --> 1:31:06.400 going to be even a It's going to be a 1:31:06.400 --> 1:31:07.280 bigger crowd than it was. 1:31:07.360 --> 1:31:10.120 I know that Miami is still undefeated. Sarah was wearing 1:31:10.120 --> 1:31:13.439 the Miami hat with the tag still I've had. 1:31:13.280 --> 1:31:16.480 This thing since I graduated. We don't need to. 1:31:18.080 --> 1:31:19.320 It's a pretty old hat. 1:31:19.439 --> 1:31:20.559 Yeah, it's a black and white. 1:31:22.280 --> 1:31:24.320 They want to make hats in color. 1:31:24.360 --> 1:31:26.920 When I also got an Indian on it. 1:31:29.479 --> 1:31:32.799 I can confidently say that I graduated as a Red Hawk. 1:31:34.000 --> 1:31:36.240 The thing that I hate the most is like, oh, 1:31:36.320 --> 1:31:38.560 you were there with ben O. 1:31:38.680 --> 1:31:38.960 I was. 1:31:39.080 --> 1:31:40.400 We did not cross paths. 1:31:40.520 --> 1:31:42.120 You didn't run into No, I did not. 1:31:43.600 --> 1:31:46.599 But justin Viive and I our captain with the Sincinnty Cyclones. 1:31:46.640 --> 1:31:50.479 We did go to Miami together and honor yes, captain 1:31:50.520 --> 1:31:51.240 of the Cyclones. 1:31:51.720 --> 1:31:52.200 Very cool. 1:31:52.479 --> 1:31:55.360 Rick is a superstar in the NHL. 1:31:55.479 --> 1:31:59.040 Was yeah, okay, So we were just talking about getting 1:31:59.080 --> 1:32:02.320 a call on your day off. So Ellie de la 1:32:02.520 --> 1:32:06.599 Cruz is trending on social media because he was out, well, 1:32:06.680 --> 1:32:12.000 not exactly riding dirt bikes, but his pictures and videos 1:32:12.000 --> 1:32:14.200 were trending on social media of him and his buddies 1:32:14.240 --> 1:32:18.120 on dirt bikes. So the reds GM Brad Mehta calls. 1:32:20.640 --> 1:32:24.559 He's like a thinking, Ellie, what are you doing? So 1:32:24.720 --> 1:32:27.200 brad Mehta reported back to media and he goes, I 1:32:27.240 --> 1:32:30.680 talked to Ellie. He told me that he wasn't riding it, 1:32:30.800 --> 1:32:32.639 he was doing it just for the video. 1:32:34.400 --> 1:32:35.880 Sure he was. 1:32:37.080 --> 1:32:40.439 Can you imagine that conversation though, between Brad Mehta and 1:32:40.520 --> 1:32:43.760 Ellie de la Cruz, like, hey, buddy. 1:32:43.439 --> 1:32:47.080 What you're doing? Ellie's like. 1:32:48.960 --> 1:32:52.439 Rember, He's ride his motorcycle and he cur himself, and. 1:32:52.360 --> 1:32:55.160 I think that went through Brad's head, like, uh oh, 1:32:55.680 --> 1:32:59.040 this is risky. So do you think that Ellie was 1:32:59.080 --> 1:33:01.680 just feeding him line? Was he just doing it for 1:33:01.720 --> 1:33:04.120 the gram or was he actually out and about on 1:33:04.160 --> 1:33:04.519 his bike? 1:33:04.640 --> 1:33:06.280 Jimmy, you got any right motorcycles? 1:33:06.280 --> 1:33:08.559 You look like a few, my dad. 1:33:08.600 --> 1:33:11.120 I gotta, I gotta, I go, I go jeeping mostly 1:33:11.960 --> 1:33:13.040 I got a four wheel drive. 1:33:13.160 --> 1:33:13.360 Yeah. 1:33:14.479 --> 1:33:16.800 I put this in the same sphere as my people 1:33:16.840 --> 1:33:22.000 going out and drinking the night before Valentine's Day. That's there, okay, 1:33:22.120 --> 1:33:26.599 got oh yeah, I go actually walk around the square 1:33:27.080 --> 1:33:29.800 and make sure they're not around and let them know 1:33:29.920 --> 1:33:30.920 that I know what they're doing. 1:33:31.200 --> 1:33:34.280 I better not see what Molly Malone's on February thirteen. 1:33:35.880 --> 1:33:38.880 Until you guys are sold out this week after booked 1:33:38.880 --> 1:33:41.040 Friday and Saturday, we're all booked up. 1:33:41.040 --> 1:33:42.479 Nothing more romantic than Italian. 1:33:44.240 --> 1:33:46.880 The only ones let is that occasional guy that calls 1:33:46.960 --> 1:33:48.719 up and starts crying on the phone. 1:33:49.040 --> 1:33:53.719 I got a table next to the dumpster. 1:33:53.960 --> 1:33:55.920 Actually, can we get in? These are really good. 1:33:55.920 --> 1:33:57.760 You gotta put a table cut on the grease trap 1:33:57.800 --> 1:33:59.760 cover and that's where you can sit next to the 1:33:59.760 --> 1:34:00.679 bat for dumb ass. 1:34:00.680 --> 1:34:02.400 Wait in the last minute, what do you think We 1:34:02.640 --> 1:34:04.599 hope Alli is staying off those dirt bikes. 1:34:05.920 --> 1:34:06.599 What else you got? 1:34:06.760 --> 1:34:07.080 All right? 1:34:07.120 --> 1:34:11.120 Well, today is the first workout for pictures and catchers. 1:34:11.400 --> 1:34:15.800 How exciting. Just over forty days to go until opening day. 1:34:15.800 --> 1:34:18.400 But this Valentine's Day, speaking of, it's a big one 1:34:18.439 --> 1:34:21.559 because all hands on deck. Everybody's reporting to camp. If 1:34:21.600 --> 1:34:26.240 they haven't already, let's see us already there, good good vibes. 1:34:26.320 --> 1:34:29.920 Only love Ito Suarez, and I guess the entire team. 1:34:29.960 --> 1:34:32.480 According to Tito last night on the Hot Stove. 1:34:32.320 --> 1:34:36.440 League, they were all very excited to see him. Gotcha, 1:34:36.560 --> 1:34:38.400 that's kind of the face of the team right now, 1:34:38.439 --> 1:34:39.000 don't you think. 1:34:39.160 --> 1:34:40.880 Well, I think it was kind of like this unexpected 1:34:40.920 --> 1:34:45.320 push and the guy no one's looking forward to get 1:34:45.479 --> 1:34:46.160 out to Arizona. 1:34:46.360 --> 1:34:49.400 Oh yeah, I'd be smiling too. If I got his contract, 1:34:49.520 --> 1:34:51.120 that's a nice contact. 1:34:50.680 --> 1:34:53.160 Paid a little bit and hopefully can produce for us here. 1:34:53.200 --> 1:34:55.599 And now there's hope in Red's Land, is what you're saying. 1:34:55.640 --> 1:34:59.960 Opening day at the Grail should be a hot I think. 1:35:00.080 --> 1:35:02.599 Oh yeah, that' should be a good one. I think 1:35:02.640 --> 1:35:05.080 he really turned everything around. He's going to get people 1:35:05.120 --> 1:35:08.439 in the seats. Also, someone having a good week, Tyler 1:35:08.520 --> 1:35:12.200 Stevenson because he won his arbitration case yesterday, getting a 1:35:12.200 --> 1:35:17.240 cool six point eight million dollars meatballs. Oh yeah, you 1:35:17.240 --> 1:35:22.639 can get a lot of meat with that. 1:35:20.720 --> 1:35:23.759 Tyler Stevenson. If you're not in Arizona and you are listening, 1:35:23.760 --> 1:35:27.679 you are longing to go in, spend your money and coming. Yeah, 1:35:27.760 --> 1:35:29.200 how many meatballs can you get for that? 1:35:30.120 --> 1:35:35.160 Math lifetime meatballs? 1:35:34.960 --> 1:35:40.760 He comes in by me, all right, let's go. Dode 1:35:40.760 --> 1:35:43.519 Sloane and I get the same treatment. Absolutely no. 1:35:43.680 --> 1:35:45.280 We get charged in. We get the bill. 1:35:45.720 --> 1:35:46.719 You guys get double. 1:35:46.800 --> 1:35:49.320 I opened up the check and it's a it's his 1:35:49.439 --> 1:35:52.519 bill too. I was like, that's great charge, Spenser, Like 1:35:52.720 --> 1:35:53.320 you got in too. 1:35:53.880 --> 1:35:57.160 Everybody has to know, I know, except for Tyler Seeds. 1:35:58.040 --> 1:36:00.839 He comes in, he's on my List had a story 1:36:00.880 --> 1:36:03.600 that said, there's a guy in college just got his 1:36:03.680 --> 1:36:04.680 ninth year of eligibility. 1:36:04.680 --> 1:36:06.320 A you're familiar with, Well, now what's going on? 1:36:06.479 --> 1:36:06.760 I don't know. 1:36:06.800 --> 1:36:09.040 How dumb are you? You need nine years? 1:36:09.160 --> 1:36:09.880 What's he doing? 1:36:10.360 --> 1:36:10.800 I don't know. 1:36:12.920 --> 1:36:15.519 Stack years. 1:36:15.800 --> 1:36:18.160 It took me thirty years to get through, for God's ake, 1:36:19.840 --> 1:36:21.920 that's a problem there. I don't know, all right. 1:36:22.560 --> 1:36:26.040 I remember those bush tree people in the super Bowl. 1:36:26.960 --> 1:36:28.880 It was only Sunday. I mean, I'm not that old, 1:36:28.880 --> 1:36:34.600 and I'm gonna forget. I don't know, almighty Sunday. I 1:36:34.600 --> 1:36:36.479 was like, yeah, I just yeah, with super Bowl on Sunday. 1:36:36.560 --> 1:36:38.599 Yet, do you know those trees that were in the 1:36:38.720 --> 1:36:39.720 halftime performance? 1:36:39.800 --> 1:36:42.920 Those were little people. Hundreds of people in those. 1:36:42.760 --> 1:36:44.800 Trees, all small people. Not little people. 1:36:44.840 --> 1:36:47.040 No, they had to be between five seven and six 1:36:47.080 --> 1:36:51.760 foot tall. So bad Bunny released this thing like a 1:36:51.760 --> 1:36:52.439 couple of weeks. 1:36:52.240 --> 1:36:54.280 Before, probably had the day out. 1:36:54.360 --> 1:36:55.519 That's why Jack was gone. 1:36:55.600 --> 1:36:58.760 Yeah, so he goes, look, I can't say what's going on, 1:36:58.840 --> 1:37:01.439 but I am looking for people on this specific height range, 1:37:01.720 --> 1:37:03.680 and so they could be in those trees and you 1:37:03.680 --> 1:37:05.479 saw them like walk out onto the field and then 1:37:05.479 --> 1:37:08.120 they just stood there for the entire fifteen minutes that 1:37:08.200 --> 1:37:10.640 Bad Bonnie were forming. They did get paid for that. 1:37:10.680 --> 1:37:12.360 What do you think that they got paid to be trees? 1:37:12.520 --> 1:37:13.000 I heard it. 1:37:13.080 --> 1:37:16.840 I heard it, so you know, then shut up. You 1:37:16.840 --> 1:37:17.439 brought it up. 1:37:17.520 --> 1:37:18.240 I didn't say it. 1:37:18.360 --> 1:37:19.880 Then you can't guess what do you think they got 1:37:19.880 --> 1:37:22.559 paid to be trees? It's actually way lower than I thought. 1:37:22.720 --> 1:37:24.080 I'll just say three. 1:37:25.320 --> 1:37:27.160 No, No, that's la money though. 1:37:27.200 --> 1:37:31.040 Well, no, it's like a hundred ticket you get to come. 1:37:31.280 --> 1:37:31.759 That's true. 1:37:32.120 --> 1:37:35.800 This was an hourly thing, like an hourly rate. 1:37:36.240 --> 1:37:39.120 They got eighteen dollars and seventy cents an hour. 1:37:39.360 --> 1:37:40.360 What trees? 1:37:40.760 --> 1:37:43.400 What it was like thirteen undred dollars. Well, they put 1:37:43.400 --> 1:37:47.200 in seventy hours of work. It's total to be thirteen 1:37:47.240 --> 1:37:47.720 oh nine. 1:37:47.760 --> 1:37:50.080 Okay, okay, okay, okay, that's that's again. 1:37:50.200 --> 1:37:53.000 They got a little bit more than they got to 1:37:53.040 --> 1:37:53.920 practice being trees. 1:37:54.120 --> 1:37:57.840 Yeah, to a tree. 1:37:58.080 --> 1:37:59.720 It's a lot of trouble. Then, you know, you get 1:37:59.720 --> 1:38:01.400 the police. Canine takes a week on you. 1:38:01.400 --> 1:38:03.120 You got problem, You got problem. 1:38:04.800 --> 1:38:07.000 Start eating the grass. The dog starts eating grass and 1:38:07.200 --> 1:38:10.000 puke and that's a thing. That's a whole big thing. 1:38:10.160 --> 1:38:11.360 It's a risk to be a tree. 1:38:11.400 --> 1:38:12.479 Yeah, it's very risky. 1:38:12.880 --> 1:38:15.160 I thought that was interesting on social media. 1:38:15.439 --> 1:38:17.080 Like third grade, Oliver, I was the tree in the 1:38:17.120 --> 1:38:18.760 back row. There is a picture of me at the 1:38:18.760 --> 1:38:19.280 super Bowl. 1:38:19.280 --> 1:38:21.240 Hey, and you never know where anything being a tree 1:38:21.280 --> 1:38:22.960 in third grade is going to get you. I would 1:38:22.960 --> 1:38:24.760 be performing with Bad Bunny at the Super Bowl. 1:38:24.800 --> 1:38:27.000 My wife has eyes like like a hawk or an owl, 1:38:27.040 --> 1:38:28.960 and she said from the jump, she goes, those are 1:38:29.000 --> 1:38:29.640 people behind there. 1:38:29.640 --> 1:38:31.200 I'm like, what, what the hell are you looking at him? 1:38:31.240 --> 1:38:31.280 Like? 1:38:31.520 --> 1:38:32.639 They look like I couldn't see. 1:38:32.840 --> 1:38:33.439 Well, it's funny. 1:38:33.439 --> 1:38:36.040 Those people are really capitalizing on TikTok because all the 1:38:36.080 --> 1:38:39.880 tree people are getting on their pages and making videos about. 1:38:39.640 --> 1:38:41.560 Being a tree in that performance. 1:38:41.920 --> 1:38:44.519 And they wore this like green suit and like little 1:38:44.560 --> 1:38:46.639 shoes and they're just you know, fuzzy. 1:38:46.920 --> 1:38:48.040 All right, it's just funny. 1:38:48.080 --> 1:38:48.439 I don't know. 1:38:48.560 --> 1:38:49.840 I wonder how quickly. I was like, how are they 1:38:49.880 --> 1:38:51.400 gonna get all that stuff out of there? It's easy 1:38:51.400 --> 1:38:55.200 if the tree moves by itself. Yeah, yeah, I like 1:38:55.240 --> 1:38:56.120 it exactly. 1:38:56.280 --> 1:38:59.040 And earlier today we were talking about that angry congressman 1:38:59.120 --> 1:38:59.800 in Tennessee. 1:39:00.040 --> 1:39:03.400 His name is Andy O. Goles. He was not happy 1:39:03.439 --> 1:39:04.720 with the halftime performance. 1:39:05.320 --> 1:39:09.280 So he's requesting a formal congressional inquiry into the NICA 1:39:10.080 --> 1:39:13.840 and NBC for the prior knowledge of approval of this 1:39:13.880 --> 1:39:14.719 halftime show. 1:39:15.360 --> 1:39:16.400 What what was the offense? 1:39:16.680 --> 1:39:18.440 He said, it was pure smut. 1:39:19.840 --> 1:39:24.320 Were forced to endure displays of gay sexual acts. Women 1:39:24.400 --> 1:39:28.880 were gyrating provocatively, and he was really uncomfortable with Bad 1:39:28.920 --> 1:39:31.800 Bunny grabbing his crotch while dry pumping the air. 1:39:33.960 --> 1:39:39.360 Everybody, everything is a microaggression with people. 1:39:39.400 --> 1:39:41.200 Now, it's a it was thirteen minutes. 1:39:41.360 --> 1:39:44.520 Just stop. And honestly, I thought it was very conservative. 1:39:44.720 --> 1:39:45.200 It was all right. 1:39:45.240 --> 1:39:47.599 I mean the women dancing was like, I, we can 1:39:48.160 --> 1:39:50.479 the cheerleaders dress more scantily in dancing. 1:39:50.640 --> 1:39:52.439 Go to an NBA game, We get that for no 1:39:52.479 --> 1:39:55.639 matter what kind of performance you're watching, people took the well, 1:39:55.640 --> 1:39:56.280 you don't understand. 1:39:56.280 --> 1:39:58.000 It wasn't an English are now offended by the lyrics 1:39:58.040 --> 1:39:59.479 they couldn't understand in the first place. 1:39:59.560 --> 1:40:01.639 And that's what I saying. Is not happy with the lyrics. 1:40:01.640 --> 1:40:04.680 He's a this is a clear violation of FCC guidelines. 1:40:04.800 --> 1:40:07.120 And meanwhile, it's like then tune of the All American 1:40:07.160 --> 1:40:09.240 One where Kid Rock is singing blah blah ball, which 1:40:09.320 --> 1:40:12.320 if you look at the lyrics of that, you. 1:40:12.280 --> 1:40:14.519 Had to take a deep dive into that. He was 1:40:14.560 --> 1:40:17.360 busted for sinking he wasn't actually singing. 1:40:17.680 --> 1:40:20.120 Surprised, I'll tell you, if you have never seen Kid Rock, 1:40:20.160 --> 1:40:20.800 that's a great show. 1:40:21.120 --> 1:40:23.880 I've never seen him before about half dozen times. I'm 1:40:23.920 --> 1:40:25.479 not against it, but but you know what the. 1:40:25.479 --> 1:40:28.400 Saying is, I'm not offended by Kid Rock or Bad 1:40:28.439 --> 1:40:31.519 Bunny for that matter. It's like whatever, No, they're. 1:40:31.360 --> 1:40:34.440 Both entertainers, you know, killing it in their own department. 1:40:35.280 --> 1:40:37.480 You want to go into the game. I thought they 1:40:37.560 --> 1:40:39.360 show was awesome. I thought it was fun. 1:40:39.680 --> 1:40:42.080 It was something dish I understood by Spanish better. But 1:40:42.479 --> 1:40:44.320 you're to kitchen Spanish. 1:40:45.640 --> 1:40:48.519 Spanish? What did you think of the performance? Did you 1:40:48.600 --> 1:40:51.680 like it? I mean it was good, it was. 1:40:51.680 --> 1:40:52.280 Good, all right? 1:40:52.360 --> 1:40:56.160 All right, see Shift Jimmy Comedy. He'll be at uh, 1:40:56.200 --> 1:40:58.040 He'll be at our event on Fat Tuesday. 1:40:58.640 --> 1:41:01.040 They're still available for that. So if you're looking for 1:41:01.080 --> 1:41:02.880 something to get for your valandie. 1:41:02.479 --> 1:41:04.640 Fantastic anally there's more food than you can eat there. 1:41:04.640 --> 1:41:06.479 Marty Grout twenty twenty six, Dot our Jimmie, thanks for 1:41:06.520 --> 1:41:10.960 coming to appreciate you brother. Sarah, appreciate you brother, Thank you, 1:41:11.040 --> 1:41:13.120 Sister seven hundred, all the time,