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Speaker 1: Is Tony Pike Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome in our number three, Cincy three sixty.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Miami basketball and action last night with a big win

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Speaker 2: Xavier and Cincinnati both in action tonight, So why not

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Speaker 2: Austin go to the man in charge of the rebound rundown?

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Speaker 2: Come on as we look to run down some things

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Speaker 2: in the college basketball world, and we just get to

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Speaker 2: do it with a guy who today no issues with Verizon.

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Speaker 2: So it's already a win for Paul Fritchner huge and

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Speaker 2: he joins us night right now. Paul, what's up?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's just really nice to know that the phone

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Speaker 3: carriers are on our side today and there's no subliminal

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Speaker 3: messaging going on. The AP's not trying to keep Miami

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Speaker 3: out anymore. We're all on the same page and it's

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Speaker 3: going to talk to you, Fellasi doing it's incredible.

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Speaker 2: We're great, We're even better now to have you along

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Speaker 2: with us.

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Speaker 4: I am.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about last night because we had

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Speaker 2: Travis Steele on the show earlier in the week. Paul

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Speaker 2: and I thought one of the most impressive wins of

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Speaker 2: their season was the Kent State win. They had just

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Speaker 2: come off a big win against Buffalo overtime fashion, and

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Speaker 2: then they get ranked and they go to an environment

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Speaker 2: at Kent State where they're giving away beer, they're giving

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Speaker 2: away jerseys, They're given so much. They create this huge

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Speaker 2: environment and it didn't go well at times for Miami

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Speaker 2: in that game. And they had just got ranked, and

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Speaker 2: it's like, okay, you put so much into that and

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Speaker 2: it's going to slip out from your grass, and they didn't.

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Speaker 2: They rally against Kent State last night, they rally again

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Speaker 2: against UMass. You just have to wonder if there's just

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Speaker 2: something about the mental makeup of this team that's different

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Speaker 3: You're right, they're a really experienced team. And they only

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Speaker 3: went to the portal for one player, Almar Atlass, and

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Speaker 3: for one guy, but you retain so much of your

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Speaker 3: team and you build on what you had last year

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Speaker 3: where you were one bucket away from the NCAA Tournament.

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Speaker 3: I was just looking back Tony at a tweet I

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Speaker 3: had from I don't know, September October when I.

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Speaker 5: Went to practice, and I was trying to remember.

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Speaker 3: Some of the guides that stuck out to me in

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Speaker 3: the off season of one of Miami's practices, and looking

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Speaker 3: back on where I was watching that practice versus last night,

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Speaker 3: and how much this team has geled together. They've played together,

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Speaker 3: and they have so many complimentary pieces. And you look

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Speaker 3: at last night. They're down Luke Skaljack, who's their backup

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Speaker 3: you know, later portions of December. Luke Scaljack's out last

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Speaker 3: night with an illness, and they still dig deep.

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Speaker 5: They have to rely on some.

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Speaker 3: but they have the depth to go out there and

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Speaker 5: And you know, I had somebody text me.

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Speaker 3: The other day that they were cockroaches, right, You just

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Speaker 3: can't kill him no matter what you do, no matter

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Speaker 3: what situation you put him in. At Kent State, all

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Speaker 3: Kent State had to do Tony was get the ball

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Speaker 5: They couldn't do it.

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Speaker 3: Kal Jack comes down, hit the layup, they win the game,

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Speaker 2: It feels like an unflappable team in this that they

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Speaker 2: Houston relies on development, retention, and freshmen to make a

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Speaker 3: And I know it sounds dramatic Tony to say this,

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Speaker 5: It's basically selling out a venue.

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Speaker 3: Lie last night that who knows when the last time

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Speaker 5: They are already sold out for Saturday.

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Speaker 3: You're seeing what can happen in college basketball, and I'm

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Speaker 3: hearing it from different people from around the country of

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Speaker 3: very closely paying attention to what is happening at Miami

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Speaker 3: to see if you can mimic that. But the difference

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Speaker 5: You can do all those things, but at the end

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Speaker 5: You said it unflappable. No matter what happens, they find

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Speaker 2: Everyone now is going to start looking ahead. How confident

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Speaker 3: I think they can only afford one regular season loss

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Speaker 3: They could be a thirty plus win team. They're digging deep,

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Speaker 2: Let's switch gears. You see and Xavier both in action tonight.

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Speaker 2: I want to go back to the past weekend, Paul,

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Speaker 2: But yet it feels like the improvement and the progression

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the frustrating part for Xavier, is that

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Speaker 3: that were very winnable games. I mean three of those

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you're on the right side of

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Speaker 5: Tony, now you're.

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Speaker 3: Sitting here saying yourself, all right, you know one of

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Speaker 5: I just feel for these guys that it isn't.

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Speaker 3: Resulting in wins, and you know tonight against Seaton Hall,

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Speaker 5: In New York.

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Speaker 2: I saw Rick Patino talk about just the coaching job,

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Speaker 2: and I get it's his son, but how much he's

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Speaker 2: getting out of these players. We know that the timing

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Speaker 2: and the assembly of the roster wasn't ideal, but man,

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Speaker 2: you watched this team play, Paul. You see confidence, You

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Speaker 2: see the ball movement. You see a team that gives

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Speaker 2: opposing defenses fits in many different ways. That has to

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Speaker 2: build a lot of confidence from a Xavier standpoint going

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Speaker 3: Helm, Yeah, for sure. And you look at Trey Carroll.

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Speaker 3: He had a career high thirty one the other day.

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Speaker 3: I was never worried about Malik Messina Moore. He's a

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Speaker 5: It just felt like more of the same Tony. Right now, you.

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Speaker 3: This feels like the type of game where you're playing

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Speaker 5: Ah. I just it's painful to watch the offense though, Tony.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think tonight really could be indicative of what

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Speaker 3: Win this game by twenty tonight, but this is a

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Speaker 2: Kentucky has been a roller coaster and they're playing shorthanded.

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Speaker 3: Look, I talk on the rebound rundown every single morning

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Speaker 5: I don't know how many times looking at these games, you.

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Speaker 5: Thank God for Miami, Tony.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It's hard tough sledding at this point.

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Speaker 5: Paul, I am. I know.

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Speaker 2: We're so thankful of your time and appreciate you talking

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Rebound Rundown.

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Speaker 5: There is light at the end of the tunnel, Tony.

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Speaker 5: At one point the Rundown is gonna cover a bunch

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow's Rebound Rundown will cover a Xavier road wind and

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Speaker 5: How about we just start there? There? It is, there,

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Speaker 2: This is the moment of changes. Do you think Dan

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Speaker 5: Why not? You know, at this point, why not give

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Speaker 4: You, Paul, have you thought about maybe adding some TikTok

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Speaker 4: dances to the Rebound Rundowns? You know digital footprint, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I know you guys are everywhere. I don't know that

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Speaker 5: Perhaps I will, as I have said a million times,

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Speaker 5: I will do anything for clicks. I'm in the click

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Speaker 2: Why not you heard it here from a move.

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Speaker 5: That's the thing. Nobody wants to see it.

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Speaker 2: Oh I want to see Maybe people do want to

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Speaker 2: see it. Give the people what they want interested, Paul.

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Speaker 2: Thank god, thank you, Paul. We appreciate you. Yeah, talk soon, fellas,

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Speaker 2: Big night of college hoops. Check out everything Paul's got

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Speaker 2: going on on the rebound rundown. We've got plenty more

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