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Speaker 1: Johnson and Eric Nordquist.

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Speaker 3: On the wrong side of a shutout a week ago,

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Speaker 3: on the right side of it. Today, the Vikings beat

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Speaker 3: the Washington Commanders at us Bank Stadium thirty one rip,

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Speaker 3: and they improved a five and eight in the season

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Speaker 3: on Nordo from nine to noon. Ron Johnson is going

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Speaker 3: to be with me shortly, but we're headed back to

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Speaker 3: us Bank Stadium. Among the victory parties going on, people

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Speaker 3: feeling better about themselves as a four game loss Street

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Speaker 3: comes to an end. Ben Lieber down in the locker

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Speaker 3: room with Javon Hargrave.

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Speaker 4: All right, I'm down here with a smiling Javon Hardgrave,

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Speaker 4: and we were just talking about the big hustle play

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Speaker 4: as like bringing up again a big smile back on

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Speaker 4: your face. I mean, that was an impressive play, great

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Speaker 5: Can you take us through that play?

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Speaker 1: Really?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 7: I just seen a quarter quarterback take off?

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Speaker 5: Show up? What's he given me a hard time about?

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Speaker 7: I see the quarterback take go and I really just

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Speaker 7: ran out of the ball and I really don't know

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Speaker 7: what happened. I just know I went for the ball

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Speaker 7: and it came out and I made made a recovery

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Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on, JG. Why do you give him

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Speaker 4: a hard time? Hey, he makes he makes a big

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Speaker 7: Just inside joke, but nuh, Honestly, I really don't know

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Speaker 7: how it happened.

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Speaker 4: That was Did you not even like feel the ball

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Speaker 4: come out?

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Speaker 5: I did?

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Speaker 7: I did, But I just can't believe a game out

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Speaker 7: like that, and it was just like the perfect mounts

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Speaker 7: and I was able to recover.

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 4: Did you know how close you were to the sideline?

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Speaker 4: I mean you were like inches away from the sideline.

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Speaker 5: Show the show I did.

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Speaker 7: I'm glad I ain't know that closer to ive seen

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Speaker 7: the review so I'm happy I put my hand down first.

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Speaker 4: How much were you guys aware and how much pride

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Speaker 4: did you guys take knowing that you guys had a

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Speaker 4: possibility for a shoutout against offense like that.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you know, once it was you know, fourteen zero,

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Speaker 7: we knew we had a chance. So you know, everybody

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Speaker 7: just really came to play. They was real closest going,

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Speaker 7: but we got turnovers at the right time.

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Speaker 4: And those turnovers they do come in bunches like that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's pretty impressive to see you guys get

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Speaker 4: to take the ball away. But I want to reference

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Speaker 4: the last like three or four weeks, this defense has

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Speaker 4: really elevated itself in a lot of statistical categories. What's

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Speaker 4: led into that? Have you noticed a change? Is it

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Speaker 4: just you know, guys getting healthier? The execution? Maybe just

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Speaker 4: more reps? What goes into that that higher performance of play?

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Speaker 7: This is execution we appreciate every week. We know it's

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Speaker 7: just been bad this year just overall as a team,

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Speaker 7: but we got great leaders. They tell us to keep

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Speaker 7: going and we just don't make no excuses.

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Speaker 4: What is that conversation like during the week when these

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Speaker 4: last couple weeks have been pretty tough. But you guys

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Speaker 4: know that you guys have a lot of talent on

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Speaker 5: How are you guys able to keep your spirits up?

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Speaker 7: I mean, nobody really care what we're going through. So

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Speaker 7: we know we got to come to play every week.

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Speaker 7: It's the NFL, we get paid, it's our job. So

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Speaker 7: I mean, it ain't really no motivation to it. It just

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Speaker 4: I know that a lot of times as a defensive player,

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Speaker 4: things that you're alluding to right now. But when you

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Speaker 5: How good does that feel? That you guys are.

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Speaker 4: Finally, at least for one game, playing team team defense

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Speaker 7: Man, feel good. We know they got a lot of

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Speaker 7: things every week, and just to see it come together,

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Speaker 7: you know, you just had everybody smunt on the sideline.

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Speaker 7: Now we was able to force some turnovers and we

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Speaker 7: was great to see what's.

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Speaker 5: It gonna take to keep this momentum.

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Speaker 7: I mean, we got a big week next week in Dallas,

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Speaker 7: so we gotta play even better. We got a better

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Speaker 7: and was Sunday night football.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I see that. I see that smile again.

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Speaker 5: You're you're You're already ready to go, aren't you.

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 7: You love them type of games as a pro. So

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Speaker 7: we know it's a big week this week.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know you can't say it, but I'll say it.

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Speaker 4: Everybody loves to beat the Cowboys, especially in primetime, so

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Speaker 4: let's get it done.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we got we got a big game, so I

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Speaker 5: All right, guys, back to you.

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Speaker 3: It's Ben Lieber down in the locker room with Javon Hargrave.

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Speaker 3: A big fumble recovery for number ninety seven today, part

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Speaker 3: a thirty one to nothing win. Welcome back to fan Line.

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Speaker 3: I'm Nordo Ron Johnson is with me. Uh, the a

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Speaker 3: topic of the day are really through the the week,

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Speaker 3: culminating with the game today is simplifying the game plan

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Speaker 3: for JJ McCarthy. So as we just we box score

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Speaker 3: chase for a moment, kid goes sixteen to twenty three

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Speaker 3: bucks sixty three through the air seven point one per attempt,

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Speaker 3: which is a nice increase from living in the fives

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Speaker 3: or four games. Three touchdowns, no picks for sacks, buck

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Speaker 3: twenty nine rating. That's where we should start. As part

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Speaker 5: What'd you think of the kid today?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean the biggest thing was because I kept

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Speaker 2: you all my tweets right up before the game. We're

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Speaker 2: talking about this simplifying the offense thing, and I don't

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Speaker 2: think you can simplify an offense in the NFL. I

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Speaker 2: think what they did was they took away a lot

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Speaker 2: of the pre snap stuff that he was trying to

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Speaker 2: a lot right because you can motion, you can shift,

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Speaker 2: you can can you can kill. Did you ever notice

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Speaker 2: him come to the line and kill any play today?

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Speaker 5: He didn't. There was no can can can kill kill

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Speaker 2: Because he said he's the best pre snap quarterback he's

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Speaker 5: Wasn't working after the snap.

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Speaker 2: So if you take that away from him and just say, hey,

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Speaker 2: read the coverage, here's the options. And what Kevin O'Connell

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Speaker 2: did was gave him layered options. Read from one to

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Speaker 2: tight end throw to eighty nine, that was three right.

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Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson runs the corner route, he's not there. Let

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Speaker 2: me come underneath to my tight end. The next throw

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Speaker 2: the out route. This is the call here, the one

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Speaker 2: step to Justin Jefferson. That's my only option. I'm throwing

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Speaker 2: it there, you know, like the Favure oute to Justin Jeffson.

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Speaker 2: I saw the safety come down. So I think he

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Speaker 2: played great because you allowed him in that first drive.

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Speaker 2: They didn't face a third down in the first drive.

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Speaker 2: Why because he got the ball out of his hands

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Speaker 2: on first and second down and they ran the ball. Well,

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Speaker 2: whenever they were third and short, they ran the ball,

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Speaker 5: What even out of shotgun, they ran the ball.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's the key, Like just do what

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Speaker 2: you're supposed to do and stop trying to trick everybody.

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Speaker 2: Your team is really good, you have weapons, your and again,

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Speaker 2: let's let's forget this. The Commander's defense is not good.

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Speaker 2: We talked about that on the pregame show. They're not good.

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Speaker 2: Like their third down defense was horrible, Their first down

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Speaker 2: gave up six point two yards per play this season.

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Speaker 2: That's thirty first twenty four percent of those plays resulted

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Speaker 2: those plays were first downs, meaning on first down, they

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Speaker 2: gave up eighty four first downs. That's twenty seventh. So

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Speaker 2: what did the Vikings doing the first drive? Attack them

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Speaker 2: where the safety's at and go to that side.

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Speaker 5: I was watching.

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Speaker 2: Specifically that also, I talked to a couple coaches on

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Speaker 2: front office people before the game as well, and like

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Speaker 2: everybody was on the same page. The stuff is implemented

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Speaker 2: into this game plan. If Kevin O'Connell calls it, JJ

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Speaker 2: has to run it. If he doesn't run it, he's

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Speaker 2: not the quarterback. And he ran it.

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Speaker 5: He went with the quick game stuff.

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Speaker 2: He was able to get his shoulders turned and his

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Speaker 5: He didn't have to think the corner route to Addison.

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Speaker 5: What do you do?

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Speaker 2: You put a piece of meat in front of a tiger,

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Speaker 2: which is Justin Jefferson. Justin Jefferson ran a little hitch.

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Speaker 2: The cornerback not only didn't stand between the two, he

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Speaker 2: which left Jordan Adison wide open on the corner route.

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Speaker 2: But again that's just bad football by the Commanders. They

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Speaker 2: are bad when it comes to that coverage, like for

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Speaker 2: some reason when they're in quarters, they're not figuring it out.

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Speaker 2: So I think JJ McCarthy did great. Now again, this

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Speaker 2: is one week. They're thirty one, you know, thirty one

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Speaker 2: and nothing to win.

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Speaker 5: We got to see this next week.

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Speaker 2: You and I are going to sit down next week

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Speaker 2: and we're going to see if we're having this conversation

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Speaker 2: or if we're like.

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Speaker 5: Why couldn't Vin o'connen just do it last week?

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Speaker 3: So how do you level that out?

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Speaker 5: Then?

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Speaker 3: Where I do think that JJ McCarthy took steps today.

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Speaker 3: I think that he looked more calm and just kind

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Speaker 3: of had his wits about him in terms of decision making.

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Speaker 5: Processing the reads.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you as you were walking in,

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Speaker 5: And then can you replicate what you just saw?

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Speaker 2: But yeah, the Commander's defensive backs were just I mean,

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Speaker 3: The I just got a text from from a Turk

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Speaker 5: Joking about it on the Friday Feast.

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Speaker 3: The Commanders basically have like a twenty seventeen All Pro team.

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Speaker 5: Sixteen game, yea out there, He's still making plays.

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Speaker 3: It's just a three win operation veteran laden team and

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Speaker 2: It's just I think of that nineteen play drive. I

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Speaker 5: To go chunk for chunk for chunk.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's the key because again, let's fast

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Speaker 5: According to the sideline, I.

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Speaker 2: Was just acting all kinds of people, like what is

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Speaker 2: I think you said it. Aaron Jones brought it up.

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Speaker 2: He was reading it quick today. If he reads it quick,

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Speaker 5: Late today he was quick.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's one thing, and we got to pause and

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Speaker 5: Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 8: Vikings win thirty one nothing today at home against the.

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Speaker 5: Commanders, Packers and Bears.

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Speaker 3: After it, Jordan Love threw one of the worst and

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Speaker 5: I hope not. I think the can get this one.

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Speaker 3: And I think we're actually going to begin airing the

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Speaker 5: Okay, we're pulling.

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Speaker 3: Some positives out of an overall difficult season, and that's

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Speaker 8: All right, This is Mike fa Okay opening drive techdown.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, third and one and we've run it.

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Speaker 10: Waiter a fourth and run and we run it all right?

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Speaker 10: Come on, someone else is calling the place today.

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Speaker 5: Let's find out who that was and keep from doing it. Oh,

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Speaker 5: I like it.

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Speaker 11: This is well done and Knockna tol me again.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, these two weeks all.

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Speaker 11: Right, exactly why it's impossible to be a Vikings fan.

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Speaker 11: Like last week we couldn't have beaten Polytechnical Institute for

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Speaker 11: can you comment maybe inconsistency and coaching and I don't

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Speaker 3: I don't know about the socioeconomic status of Europe. I

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Speaker 3: mean we got certain groups and some fraud situations here

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Speaker 3: welcome back to Vikings fan line, Ron Johnson. Consistency is

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Speaker 3: something that mediocre teams struggle with and that's why they

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Speaker 5: And eight am I right?

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Speaker 3: I mean just in the end, whether you know Dearrisov

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Speaker 5: He had another false start today, But.

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Speaker 3: You think about the penalties, you think about the injuries,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again getting shut out and then shutting the

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Speaker 5: Well, I think that's why. Here's hope. It's it's why

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Speaker 3: It's why muss is en route from from US Bank

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Speaker 5: good would that be?

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Speaker 1: Man?

443
00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,760
Speaker 5: I beant he's got Blends in them. He's got it,

444
00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:46,760
Speaker 5: he got it, something like that.

445
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Speaker 8: Remember that three nothing like this, This is the Blendon,

446
00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:50,800
Speaker 8: This is a Blends Yeah.

447
00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,000
Speaker 3: Remember that three nothing shut out? Oh yeah, that was

448
00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:58,640
Speaker 3: barn Burner in Vegas. Prior to that, twenty seventeen sixteen

449
00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,160
Speaker 3: nothing at Green Bay, and I think that was Tyler

450
00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:01,960
Speaker 3: Huntley playing.

451
00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,719
Speaker 5: Potentially it was a backup. Soon that was just Dobbs.

452
00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:10,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty twenty three was Dobs. Twenty seventeen I think

453
00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,439
Speaker 3: Rogers was out. I believe. I think that was the

454
00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,760
Speaker 3: collarbone season. Oh, when Anthony Barr chucked him down.

455
00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, they changed the whole rule of the game. And

456
00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,400
Speaker 2: then the bar was here today, by the way.

457
00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,159
Speaker 3: So that's the three shutouts the Vikings have have had

458
00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,960
Speaker 3: on the winning side of it since nineteen ninety three,

459
00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,520
Speaker 3: when they shut out the Bucks and the Lions in

460
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,119
Speaker 3: the same season. So shutouts are rare for your favorite

461
00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,600
Speaker 3: football team. Continuing the conversation, and then we'll jump back

462
00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,480
Speaker 3: into some more talkbacks after I get your thoughts on this.

463
00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,040
Speaker 3: You mentioned, you know, if simplifying the offense, it's not

464
00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,760
Speaker 3: like they're running completely different plays, But what are they

465
00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,560
Speaker 3: asking of JJ maybe the pre snap well, and maybe

466
00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,919
Speaker 3: that led to success on third down. But in particular,

467
00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,640
Speaker 3: how about this third and six. On that nineteen play

468
00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,960
Speaker 3: twelve minute drive, third and six, he scrambles for seven,

469
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,600
Speaker 3: third and nine, finds Naylor for twelve, third and eight,

470
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,400
Speaker 3: Addison for twenty one, third and twelve, Jefferson for thirteen,

471
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 3: and then as as you heard from that talkback, as

472
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,960
Speaker 3: he was joking about the third and one, Mason runs

473
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,720
Speaker 3: it in from the eight for a touchdown. The third

474
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,360
Speaker 3: down success is today, and you think about how different

475
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 3: I mean, that drive ends if he doesn't find his

476
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 3: way to scramble third and nine. I mean, these weren't

477
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Speaker 3: just despite the running success potentially later where we started

478
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 3: to see chunks. Specifically on that nineteen play drive, he

479
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,880
Speaker 3: had to complete four third downs of six or longer

480
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 3: and really did so confidently. I didn't feel like this

481
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 3: was just throwing it up and hopefully one of your

482
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 3: guys is on the other side. He stepped back quick decisions,

483
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 3: smart decisions, good connections, and he was moving the chains.

484
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 3: I think maybe that success could speak to some pre

485
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,160
Speaker 3: snap changes with number nine.

486
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the one that justin Jefferson, you know that's

487
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 2: a designed to play. You know, he ran like a

488
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 2: fake bubble and then kind of ran back like an

489
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 2: arrow route, and he was you know, had blockers down

490
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 2: the field, which you know, technically I was watching him

491
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 2: like they might have been blocked it a little bit

492
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 2: too early down the field. But those are play designs,

493
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 2: like he had some good play designs. Again, the corner

494
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 2: route to Addison, that's justin Jefferson holding the corner back

495
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 2: and then him trusting if you see this corner sit

496
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Speaker 2: throw it.

497
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 1: Now.

498
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 2: Even that was a little bit late, but again it's

499
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 2: he's learning, right, These are learning opportunities for him to say,

500
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 2: okay when he watches film. Okay, I see you was just saying, Coach,

501
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 2: I could have thrown it a little bit sooner. I see,

502
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 2: he was just saying I could have thrown it a

503
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 2: little bit sooner. Because even the touchdown, if you go

504
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 2: way back to the Bears game, that go route on

505
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 2: the left side touchdown, that was a late throw. The

506
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 2: guy in the scene had already run the post route

507
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 2: and took two steps to the post and then Jaj McCarty.

508
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 5: Through the ball the minute that guy is.

509
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 2: Running the scene, and you see, I think it was

510
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 2: nay Sean Wright still in the middle.

511
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Speaker 5: You throw the ball now, you don't wait for.

512
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Speaker 2: The guy to break on the post, because that means

513
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,919
Speaker 2: he's trying to rob the polls. He can't turn his

514
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: back and get back to the out route. He never

515
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 2: made it back over there, even though JJ threw it late.

516
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,719
Speaker 2: But again, is just trusting what the coach tells you

517
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 2: in the practice, trusting what he's telling you the play

518
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 2: he's gonna do, and then when you see it, you

519
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 2: just execute it. This is what game seven or seven

520
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 2: or eight for JJ McCarthy, you know. Drew Brees said

521
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 2: it took his fourth year for him to be good.

522
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 2: Like his first year he got to sit behind Doug Flutie.

523
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 2: His next year, his second year was his year playing

524
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 2: He did okay, he said. By his fourth years when

525
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 2: he felt like, okay, it's clicking. I got this figured

526
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 2: out now it as a fan, you know, it's tough

527
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 2: for people to be that patient to think away we

528
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 2: have to wait for one more year for this to work.

529
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 2: But again, it's gonna come with time. He's got to

530
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 2: learn how to play fast, but he was playing fast today.

531
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Speaker 5: I can't.

532
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I have an issue not an issue

533
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 3: with what you're saying in the grand scheme of things.

534
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 5: Totally get it, Totally agree.

535
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 3: But JJ has looked historically bad for the most part.

536
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 3: I mean it's not just he was okay and it

537
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 3: took until you know, like Breeze didn't look anywhere nearly

538
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 3: as inept and just generally uncomfortable with the idea of

539
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 3: playing quarterback as JJ McCarthy has looked at times.

540
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 2: But also remember Drew Brees through the ball a million times.

541
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 5: At Purdue, like JJ white Well, and.

542
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 2: That I personally watched it from the sideline of four

543
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 2: hundred and like fifty six yard outing and like I

544
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,719
Speaker 2: think a five hundred and eighty six yard offense output

545
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 2: for Purdue against Minnesota.

546
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 3: I think Army threw the ball more than JJ McCarthy

547
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 3: in college.

548
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 5: Somebody can look that up. It might be hyperbolic, but all.

549
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 3: The same, Yes, he's he's getting these reps now, he's learning.

550
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 3: He's looked terrible, but he absolutely took steps today, right,

551
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 3: and I'm getting I'm interested to know. I mean, frankly,

552
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 3: you know, Breeze comes into the league. Who was that

553
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 3: Shotenheimer's team.

554
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 5: Back in the day. I think Chargers I think that's

555
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 5: so was was he asked?

556
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Speaker 3: And then I'm also kind of curious like how we develop,

557
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 3: you know, I mean we see you know, were you

558
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 3: asking the same of Drew Brees and against you know,

559
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,479
Speaker 3: now it's our He've been twenty some years, right, so

560
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 3: it's difficult to even speak to how similar the offenses

561
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 3: would be.

562
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 5: But are you asking the same of a young Drew Brees?

563
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 3: Are you asking the same of some of these first

564
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 3: and second year qbs that maybe our guy was asking?

565
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 3: And I would ask if I was able to why

566
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 3: did it take huntil fourteen weeks into the season. Are

567
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 3: now through seven full games or six games into the

568
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 3: seventh to decide, you know what? I think we're going

569
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 3: to stop asking some of those pre snap things. I

570
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 3: think we will, you know, quote unquote simplified again, We're

571
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 3: we're working with ambiguous terms because we're not in the

572
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 3: room and we don't know exactly to the extent of

573
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:37,719
Speaker 3: which it was simplified.

574
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Speaker 2: So and here's what Drew was talking about though, because

575
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 2: we played them my rookie year, right, we went out

576
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 2: to San Diego. That's back when I think there was

577
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 2: like a hurricane to Baltimore. My second year or third year,

578
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 2: we played them both times we went out there. One

579
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 2: he had David Boston, who was absolutely I think They've

580
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 2: or Da've Bolsto might have been in Miami at that time,

581
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 2: but that was the HGH years when David Boston was

582
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 2: absolutely ripped up. But Drew Brees threw seventeen touchdowns and

583
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 2: was he good at os Oh?

584
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 6: Yeah?

585
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 5: That was so.

586
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 2: I remember the fight like that was my senior year

587
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: in high school watching him in Charles Woodson fight because

588
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 2: I was getting recruited by Michigan.

589
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 5: But when you think about this.

590
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 2: Seventeen touchdowns, sixteen interceptions, eleven touchdowns the next year, so

591
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 2: his third year he had eleven touchdowns and fifteen interceptions.

592
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 2: When was your rookie year two thousand and two. That

593
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 2: was Drew Brees' second year.

594
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 3: Okay, so in three he was in Arizona and O

595
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 3: two and then he was in San Diego and three

596
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 3: Boston was.

597
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah yep, so yeah, yeah, so we played him. Yeah,

598
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 2: that was the HGH. Like I just remember, I just

599
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 2: remember David Boston coming out there and I looked at

600
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 2: him and he looked like a horse, like his neck,

601
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: his head, he just was huge. I remember Gary Baxter

602
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 2: and Chris McCallister got like man coverage was called and

603
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 2: literally Gary Baxter looked over the DV coach and said,

604
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 2: if you don't fing, get somebody to help me with

605
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 2: this guy. He was like two hundred and forty eight

606
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 2: pounds playing a receiver and still ran a four to

607
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 2: three like he was huge.

608
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 5: He was huge.

609
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 2: He took like forty pills a day though, like he

610
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 2: said or something like that.

611
00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 5: Because of the HGH.

612
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 2: This before was banned by the way people listening, Everybody's like, wait,

613
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: what he took it legally?

614
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, nobody knew what it was. Yeah.

615
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: Back in you could take dear dear, dear antler spray.

616
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 2: Remember that was legal. Two ray Lewis, Yeah, ray Lowis.

617
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 2: Remember these staid the arm. He said he had deer

618
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 2: antler spray. It's what he used to get healthy for

619
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: the for the game. But anyway, anything it takes eleven

620
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: touchdowns that next year, his fourth year, and again he

621
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: said it today on the broadcast, so Drew's not lying

622
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 2: about this. His fourth year was when he had one

623
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 2: hundred plus passer rating. The years before that he was

624
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: seventy and sixty seventy a second year, sixty is third year.

625
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 5: Now I'm not saying it's wrong, but like he's saying, like.

626
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: It's fast and depending on what they're asking of you,

627
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 2: how can you figure it out?

628
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 5: And he kind of bought that.

629
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 2: Up with McCarthy today is they went quick like and

630
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 2: McCarthy figured it out, like, here's where I go in

631
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 2: quick game. Here's how like every I was watching his feet.

632
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: It would be one two three throw from the shotgun.

633
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: It's a delayed three, so it's five technically, but it

634
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 2: was get the ball one two, three go, and he

635
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 2: was getting the ball out of his hands to the

636
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 2: right Reid and he made the right read. Now our

637
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: team's going to play him different because the're like, Okay,

638
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 2: this guy is reading quick. Now do we try to

639
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: trick him and do something else? But again, getting into

640
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 2: the tight end quick, knowing justin Jefferson was covered in

641
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: the corner route, that's perfect. That's what you're asked to

642
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 2: do in the quick game. Yeah, you know, getting it

643
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 2: out to Naylor quick on the sideline, that's what you're

644
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: asked to do. Even the Hockinson one where he went

645
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 2: out of bounds, you know, he tried to make the throw,

646
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: but hawk on the out route one on one, you

647
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 2: make that throw. That's the stuff that you know, we

648
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 2: didn't see early on from McCarthy because it felt like

649
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 2: he was being asked to go forty yards down the field.

650
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: That might not be his game right now. Well I

651
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: don't think it's his game right now.

652
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 3: Drew Brees, by the way, in two thousand and two,

653
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 3: he just had you know, this cat named la Damian

654
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 3: Tomlins to work with as well. My point being is,

655
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 3: I think I think when we start making these comparisons,

656
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 3: it's like what is KO asking of J. J. McCarthy,

657
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 3: true versus what are other young qbs asked of?

658
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 5: In you go to the presser and ask them, Well,

659
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 5: we're not not in the room. I get that.

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Speaker 3: But but today shockingly plays his best game. By the way,

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Speaker 3: finally a game without an interception. Oh yeah, finally a

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Speaker 3: game without an interception.

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Speaker 2: Think about this. Three touchdowns thrown yes, none to receivers. No,

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Speaker 2: that right there was frustrating alone. I mean, good, we like,

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Speaker 2: But as a receiver, I'm sitting there like, god lye, come.

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Speaker 5: On, we'll get to you.

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Speaker 2: Can you get it?

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Speaker 5: Can you get it to Addison or Justin Jefferson. Can

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Speaker 5: we get a gritty at US Bank?

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Speaker 2: Are we gonna get a gritty in twenty twenty five

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Speaker 2: at US Bank Stadium?

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Speaker 3: Can Addison holds a score.

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Speaker 5: A touchdown at US Bank this year? Can I just

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Speaker 5: hold onto the easy thirty corner route? Yeah, my goodness.

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Speaker 5: Here's what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna continue fan line momentarily, but first we're gonna

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Speaker 3: pause for station identification to all those in the beautiful

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Speaker 3: Vikings audio network. This is Minnesota Vikings Football.

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Speaker 9: Minnesota Sports follow the Leader. Minnesota Sports Leader is FM

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Speaker 9: one hundred point three Ethics and FF the Fan.

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Speaker 3: So we agree, Welcome back to Minnesota Vikings fan line

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Speaker 3: thirty one to nothing in the final a US Bank Stadium.

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Speaker 3: We're in agreement that the quarterback took steps today. We

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Speaker 3: dig that.

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Speaker 5: But I had to almost.

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Speaker 3: Rub my eyes as part of this lopsided victory here today,

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Speaker 3: Ron because you know we were talking. You know, whether

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Speaker 3: they play zone, they don't send an extra guy. How

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Speaker 3: about this rushing attack, I mean, thirty four attempts today

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Speaker 3: technical well twenty eight, I should say, by running backs

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Speaker 3: six scrambles in total for nineteen yards for JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 3: so you got twenty eight carries for a buck forty

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Speaker 3: three on the ground. That is how we help number

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Speaker 3: nine take steps. Ron, That's how we can see measurable

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Speaker 3: success despite being a frustrating season.

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Speaker 5: Run the freaking ball and we did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Aaron, I mean the fact that the commanders

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Speaker 2: stay with four in the front like it makes it

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Speaker 2: easier on the offensive line. You could you could see

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Speaker 2: the run lanes, you could see the combo blocks getting

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Speaker 2: up to the second level. Anytime your guard, which is

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Speaker 2: Donovan Jackson, can get to the second level to seal off.

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Speaker 5: A linebacker, you're gonna have gaping runs.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's what we were seeing today is

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Speaker 2: though seven, eight, nine, ten eleven yard runs from Aaron Jones.

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Speaker 2: It was good to see that, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: It was good to see him kind of feeling like himself.

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Speaker 2: I mean, pregame, I saw him on the field and uh,

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Speaker 2: he came over there, you know, said a quick what's up?

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Speaker 2: And then he like jumps and dunks the goal posts.

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, he's feeling good today. Yeah, Like, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if I definitely I don't think I can

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Speaker 2: probably touch the gold post. Maybe I could I don't.

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Speaker 8: Know, but like he's he don't think you could jump

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Speaker 8: up and touch I don't know that's ten feet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I know I can. I think I

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Speaker 2: can still touch a room. I'ven't tried to touch a

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Speaker 2: rim in years. I'm scared to come down and hurt myself.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm just old. I can shoot three still, I

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Speaker 2: can still take it to lane.

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Speaker 5: You know what to do? Max, what's gonna do?

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Speaker 3: He's gonna save that audio, is what he's gonna do.

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Speaker 9: What.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what I say, Man, I just picture

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Speaker 5: you and the YMCA gym. That's all. But yeah, I'm

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Speaker 5: at a button bar run.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, I think you know seeing him

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Speaker 2: jump to he just looked happier today. He looked healthier today.

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Speaker 2: He looked a little bit like he looked younger, you know.

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Speaker 2: But I think all the guys, like when you could

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Speaker 2: see their faces, it was kind of like, Okay, this

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Speaker 2: is a new beginning. We're gonna our coach is putting

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Speaker 2: a different offense in. We're gonna be quicker today. We're

734
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Speaker 2: gonna run the ball a little bit more like everybody.

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Speaker 2: It didn't look like a fourig and eight team walk

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Speaker 2: into the building. We've seen some four and eight teams

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Speaker 2: walking buildings and they're just there to get a paycheck.

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Speaker 2: It didn't look like that for the Minnesota Vikings today.

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Speaker 3: That's Ron Johnson, Domnordo from nine to new. Max Fuller

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Speaker 3: is here. Vikings fan line is going to continue for

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Speaker 3: about the next hour and then the baton toss to

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Speaker 3: Saucer and Max as they continue with Vikings overtime. They'll

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Speaker 3: keep you posted on all the scores and maybe a

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00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 3: little sneaky checking depending upon where this Packers Bears game

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Speaker 3: goes later on NFC North Division collision right across the border.

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Speaker 3: We don't like either team in particular, but it matters.

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Speaker 3: It's the North, so we're going to pay attention to it.

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Speaker 3: Vikings win thirty one to nothing. They handle their part

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Speaker 3: of the business today at US Bank Stadium. They got

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Speaker 3: shut out last week. They do the shutting out this

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Speaker 3: week and we'll continue this conversation. Next to this is

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Speaker 3: Minnesota Vikings Football.

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Speaker 9: Your home for all things Purple cod Yes FM one

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Speaker 9: hundred point three Kfan, the fin.

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Speaker 3: Talkback Machine, Free iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 12: Of course, our Vikings would show up now that we're

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Speaker 12: not in the playoff hunt. Of course, our Vikings would

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Speaker 12: beat up on a meaningless team and win a meaningless game,

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Speaker 12: so that way next year's draft is even worse.

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Speaker 13: Of course, as expected, the Vikings do the most Viking

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Speaker 13: thing that they could possibly lose and win a meaningless game,

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Speaker 13: so we can continuously be the most mid.

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Speaker 5: Team in the NFL.

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Speaker 14: Results, mid draft picks, mid records, spinning the tires like

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Speaker 14: we've been doing for twenty years. Thank you.

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Speaker 15: You know, everyone's complaining that the Vikings now have a

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Speaker 15: worst draft pick with this win today, So we need

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Speaker 15: to compromise and find a way for JJ to keep

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Speaker 15: improving every week and still ball out while still find

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Speaker 15: a way to lose out, so we still finish with

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Speaker 15: a five and twelve record and a top ten pick.

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Speaker 5: It's kind of threadning the needle here.

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Speaker 3: I had received I had received a text message, welcome back.

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Speaker 3: It's Vikings fan line. The Vikings won a game. Maybe, yes,

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Speaker 3: more of the meaningless nature, at least as it pertains

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Speaker 3: to the postseason.

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Speaker 5: Unless they win them all. I fell dub even say

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Speaker 5: that unless they win them all and.

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Speaker 2: Sneaks into the playoffs. Unless they win them all, it

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Speaker 2: wins the Super Bowl. Like the Giants. They were six seed.

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Speaker 2: We'll see.

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Speaker 8: No, I'd actually add to Eli Manning, I don't think, well,

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Speaker 8: a defensive ends, you know, they couldn't get after a

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Speaker 8: quarterback they win them all. Ron oh me, you said whatever,

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Speaker 8: how you say his name? So I received, I received,

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Speaker 8: get that one wrong. I received a text. Uh looks

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Speaker 8: like an Iowa area code.

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Speaker 3: Is there a chance that commanders were not trying because

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Speaker 3: they know losing potentially got them a better draft pick

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Speaker 3: next year? No, I responded the players, Well, first of all,

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Speaker 3: I don't think most players actually care about the draft

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Speaker 3: crestatus as much as they care about their own money

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Speaker 3: and their bonuses.

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Speaker 2: And yet like, yeah, you don't trot Jaydon Daniels out

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Speaker 2: there if you're trying to lose.

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Speaker 5: Probably not No, which again was just dumb.

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Speaker 2: Right after that repaired arm, he just got back.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was.

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Speaker 3: He was uncomfortable with the brace. It looked like the

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Speaker 3: entire time he was playing as it was.

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Speaker 5: And then he landed right on it right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when he got hit by Isaiah Rodgers because we

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Speaker 2: couldn't they didn't replay it, but we saw him get

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Speaker 2: hit and fall.

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Speaker 5: He got crumpled up.

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Speaker 16: Ye.

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Speaker 3: Not good for him, probably quite painful. But then so

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Speaker 3: to that end, I don't think the players care about

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Speaker 3: the draft picks. Secondly, to that end, I have heard

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Speaker 3: a lot of that, and I'm sure as they arise,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to find more talkbacks saying the same.

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Speaker 5: Thing is you want a meetingless game.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter now the team's going to get a

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Speaker 3: worse draft pick for me.

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Speaker 5: I think this is an easy conversation.

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Speaker 1: Ron.

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Speaker 3: The development of the QB is paramount and supersedes the

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Speaker 3: idea of getting the best possible draft pick, because he

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Speaker 3: is your draft he is, yeah, and you're talking about

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Speaker 3: where was they talking about mid playoff results, mid draft picks.

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Speaker 3: If your number ten pick turns out to be a

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Speaker 3: franchise QB, well, this win meant a lot in terms

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Speaker 3: of the kid taking steps. And so players don't care

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Speaker 3: about the draft picks in the first place, and coaches

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Speaker 3: can really only look exactly what's in front one of them.

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Speaker 3: But the absolute a topic for this team right now

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Speaker 3: is not finishing five and twelve Ron. It's determining whether

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Speaker 3: number nine can actually be the guy, which would impact

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Speaker 3: By the way, let's see where they're at right now.

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Speaker 3: I got NFL Tankathon up here. They are currently slotted

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Speaker 3: after today eleven.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, Saucy, oh hi, yeah, nobody. They went the

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Speaker 5: eleventh overall pick. They didn't lose any ground by winning.

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Speaker 3: No, but nobody's more into the idea of tanking for

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Speaker 3: the draft than is.

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Speaker 5: But but because he's a draft knick. But for Sauce

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Speaker 5: to say that, who who would they who?

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Speaker 17: Like?

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Speaker 2: What position would they want?

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Speaker 5: Because when you look the safety from Ohio st.

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Speaker 2: To safety but when you bad Yeah, okays, I can

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Speaker 2: see that because I say when.

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Speaker 5: Eating right now, yeah, looks good because I'm.

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Speaker 2: Saying for like offensive offensive guard for instance. You know,

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Speaker 2: like if you're like, hey, we're gonna move on sorry, center,

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Speaker 2: if you're gonna move on from Kelly, You're like, okay,

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Speaker 2: we want to get a Ciner. You can find a

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Speaker 2: good sin in the second third round, like right now,

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Speaker 2: like none of these guys are there, but you're right

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Speaker 2: on the Caleb downs like like like he's from Alabama,

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Speaker 2: you know, transferred to Ohio State for a better opportunity

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Speaker 2: and he is one of the top players, So could

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Speaker 2: you still probably get him. There's a chance he still falls,

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Speaker 2: you know, Like I don't know where the you know,

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Speaker 2: these guys are going to slot after more guys are

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Speaker 2: coming up and more guys trying you know, test out,

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Speaker 2: and the combine all that stuff.

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Speaker 5: So it still can work out.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, I get it, but I don't know

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Speaker 2: if Caleb Downs is gonna fall to even eleven, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, unless it just completely falls off the rails

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Speaker 2: with who needs to get picked, because quarterback wise, I

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Speaker 2: feel like every team right now has a quarterback.

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Speaker 5: That like sucks. Well you look at the team, yeah,

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Speaker 5: well I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that the Vikings would be drafting at

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Speaker 3: QB with their first round pick, would they know?

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Speaker 2: I'm just wondering, like, I feel like where they want,

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Speaker 2: they'll be okay. But if you're if you look at

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Speaker 2: who you could get like Caleb Downs, you know there's

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Speaker 2: other safeties out there, do you then still go try

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Speaker 2: to win? You know, looking at the playoff picture, right,

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Speaker 2: I think that's the you know.

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Speaker 8: Well again, I think the a topic is getting JJ

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Speaker 8: McCarthy better.

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Speaker 5: Like I think, I.

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Speaker 8: Don't even think they're thinking about Caleb Downs in this moment.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure the scouting department is, but in terms of

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Speaker 3: the team themselves, they're trying to figure out is this

880
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 3: just one, you know.

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00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 5: Proficient and competent game from JJ.

882
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 3: McCarthy, and can he now do this against the Cowboys

883
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 3: next week? And then what can he do against the Giants?

884
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 3: And then you know, we got a couple against the

885
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 3: kiddies and I think the Packers right, and then we

886
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 3: say cion art of the season.

887
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 2: Crazy because they could beat the Cowboys and the Giants.

888
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, those last two, that's probably gonna knock them

889
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Speaker 2: out there. I mean not saying it will happen, but

890
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 2: that's the chances of getting knocked out the playoffs for

891
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: those two right there, unless they win them all.

892
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 3: It just makes me laugh just saying that I want

893
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 3: my team to win every game Vikings fans, I do,

894
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: But my goodness, Pier's defense looks really good right now though.

895
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 5: Ye no kidding.

896
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 3: Tony and Wisetta Tony, welcome to Vikings fan Line.

897
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 5: Hey you guys, thanks for having me on.

898
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Speaker 17: I was just listening to what you guys were saying,

899
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Speaker 17: and I'm gonna start off by saying, there's absolutely zero

900
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Speaker 17: chance we're going to go for a quarterback in the

901
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 17: first round next year. Zero.

902
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: That's my opinion.

903
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 17: But first off. I originally called in to talk about JJ,

904
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Speaker 17: and I have a question for both of you. I

905
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Speaker 17: guess Ron, do you think that, given we had a

906
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 17: weaker defense, that JJ was able to step up and

907
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 17: excel in his game based off of the fact that

908
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 17: we had less or little to play for with this game,

909
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 17: kind of getting the pre anymore off of his shoulders. Secondly,

910
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 17: do you think of the fact that being we played

911
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 17: a weaker team, that that was the difference maker? As in,

912
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 17: let's say we played the Packers or a wrong defense,

913
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 17: would we have had a similar quality of play or

914
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 17: do you think that it would have done completely different

915
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 17: in the other team's favor. I appreciate the call. I'm

916
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Speaker 17: going to hang up and listen.

917
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you, Tony. You called us, so we appreciate

918
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Speaker 8: your Oh nice throw. So I was gonna say, Nordal

919
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 8: when you when he.

920
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 2: Just talked about that, right, if you just watched that

921
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 2: play the Packers, you know handle the blitz perfectly from

922
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Speaker 2: the Bears.

923
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 5: That's what we didn't see from the Commanders today.

924
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Speaker 2: You're not going to see an all out jail house

925
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 2: blitz from the Commanders. Cowboys similar they kind of do

926
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Speaker 2: like a five man pressure, six man pressure. Packers are

927
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Speaker 2: gonna look at let me look at that Nordo like

928
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: you don't know who's coming. Everybody's at the line of

929
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Speaker 2: scrimmage and the dB drops out, you know what I mean.

930
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 2: And so that kind of the offensive line handled it.

931
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Speaker 2: It's less about our quarterback in that situation, you know,

932
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Speaker 2: cause we're gonna see that probably against the Lions.

933
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Speaker 5: We're going to see that against the Packers.

934
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if it's a line handle that,

935
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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, that's where it Like, what are

936
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Speaker 2: what does the quarterback learning pre with that type of look,

937
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: because we knew the Commanders are going to be four

938
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Speaker 2: up and they're not really sending a bunch of guys,

939
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

940
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Speaker 5: Like it wasn't like that.

941
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: Dan Quinn is more of I'm going to confuse you

942
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Speaker 2: and make you throw an interception to the wrong guy.

943
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Speaker 2: But his dbs just bail out too much. And like

944
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 2: you said, there's a lot of injuries. I think part

945
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: of it is that it wasn't a lot of pressure

946
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 2: on him, you know, and when it was, he got

947
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Speaker 2: out of it. You know, he ran pretty well.

948
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Speaker 3: I mean I still think he made there were two

949
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 3: times where he actually worked technically because he was sacked

950
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 3: four times, but.

951
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Speaker 5: I think it did the line of scrimmage.

952
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think two of them were him actually kind

953
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 3: of evading and really not realizing where the line of

954
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 3: scrimmage was. Just throw the ball, should have gotten rid

955
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Speaker 3: of it.

956
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 8: Yeah.

957
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 3: So but in the end, yeah, the fact that the

958
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 3: the fact that the commanders are hideous doesn't it doesn't

959
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 3: hurt the conversation.

960
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Speaker 5: But the other thing I would say is is did

961
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Speaker 5: you see the Lions Cowboys? Cowboys aren't great either. No.

962
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Speaker 9: No.

963
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 3: The ib refluce is we could put thirty out of

964
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 3: your refluse. Now the problem is that offense could although

965
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 3: the defense was was opportunistic today.

966
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: Now, one thing I'll say about Dak is if you

967
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: leave George Pickens manned up, he's.

968
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Speaker 5: Going to George Pickens.

969
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Speaker 2: So that's the one thing that Flores has to figure out,

970
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: is how am I going to.

971
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Speaker 5: Defend George Pickens?

972
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: Because I think Cede Lamb's gonna be out right, he's

973
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: good a concussion.

974
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's Picky also has a little extra time

975
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 3: now with the Thursday game. True, depending upon the severity

976
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Speaker 3: of it. So we'll see let's pause. Actually, I do

977
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Speaker 3: have a wide receiver talker for you and we can

978
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 3: bring up Pickens as part of that conversation. That's Ron Johnson.

979
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Speaker 18: As expected, here come the Jackals, upset that the Vikings

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Speaker 18: won thirty one to nothing when our second year oft

993
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Speaker 18: injured in consistent quarterback actually put up a nice game

994
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Speaker 18: today with some better play calling by the coach. But

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Speaker 18: they're upset that our team isn't garbage enough around the

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Speaker 5: Dan from Burnsville. Thanks for the show.

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Speaker 12: I just wanted to say I don't think the win

1002
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 12: is meaningless.

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Speaker 17: Yes, I know it doesn't matter for the playoffs, but

1004
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 17: keeping the motivation.

1005
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Speaker 11: Up for the team is really important.

1006
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Speaker 5: Who knows.

1007
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Speaker 17: Maybe that means guys are more likely to stick around

1008
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Speaker 17: if we see some positive motion for the team.

1009
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Speaker 19: H yeah, you hear a lot of people talking about

1010
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 19: the fact that this win. Heard our draft pick, Well,

1011
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 19: what good's the top draft pick if you got the

1012
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 19: same GM making the pick. And clearly that's where he struggles.

1013
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: Oh no, quacy, Quacey fair point. I suppose welcome back

1014
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,080
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Speaker 5: Fore ihear radio app. You can listen to us wherever

1019
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Speaker 5: you are. Thank you for the talkbacks, Thank you for the.

1020
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 3: Calls and texts as well the wide receiver situation. So

1021
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: justin Jefferson, a lot has been made of like his mentality,

1022
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 3: and we just kind of picked this stuff apart of course.

1023
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 3: I mean, we don't have a lot else to do.

1024
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 3: The team's losing four in a row and everything's negative.

1025
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 3: But in a day like, how do you find excitement today?

1026
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 3: If you're justin Jefferson where the losing streak ends, you

1027
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 3: win thirty one nothing, but you have just two catches

1028
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 3: for eleven.

1029
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 5: Yards, Jefferson is negative too.

1030
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was I think I think it was as

1031
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 3: a matter of fact, yes he had along of thirteen,

1032
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 3: but he only told eleven yards.

1033
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1034
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 5: The screen just never worked from the start.

1035
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 2: Like we joked about the one step to Jefferson, but

1036
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: Jefferson should have gotten the ty Felton one, Like that's

1037
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 2: what Jefferson, give me off coverage, they get it out

1038
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: to me, don't give me it.

1039
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 5: I mean, give me a screen.

1040
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 2: Great, but it just it was too like, Okay, we're

1041
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:38,479
Speaker 2: going to Jefferson on within.

1042
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 5: We have to get him there.

1043
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and everybody, everybody in the commander's side was like,

1044
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: oh wait, this is definitely going to Jefferson, and the

1045
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 2: DV just jumped it like it's just it was just bad.

1046
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 2: He could almost run like a fake to Jefferson. And

1047
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 2: thrown it to anybody else in a different area because

1048
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: everybody was looking that way.

1049
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 5: But yeah, like he's definitely frustrated.

1050
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 3: You think number eighteen's finding some positivity out of the victory,

1051
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 3: So yes, signs of life maybe from the QB.

1052
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 2: So here's a human natures out of there. Right, it's

1053
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 2: a win, but it's a five and eight win. You know,

1054
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: like how much of that win really matters in the

1055
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: grand scheme?

1056
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 20: Now?

1057
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 5: Is he happy that nine look better today?

1058
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 6: Oh?

1059
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent?

1060
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 2: Because then it's like, Okay, how do I get involved

1061
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: in this offense? Because I saw him in the slot

1062
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 2: a couple of times, but he sent him on the

1063
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 2: go route versus him doing the sit route. Maybe now

1064
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 2: it's time for him to start doing more of what

1065
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: he did the underneath stuff, the sit routes, Like, don't use.

1066
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 5: Him all the time as the deep guy.

1067
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Speaker 2: And I think that's where the next phase of this

1068
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Speaker 2: justin Jefferson versus the Cowboys and the perfect Thing.

1069
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Speaker 5: Is a night game.

1070
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Speaker 2: We get to sit back, Nord oh and just watch it.

1071
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 2: There's nothing else that's gonna be bothering us. Our kids

1072
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: should be sleep by the time it's time for fan

1073
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 2: line hopefully, And that's what I want to see this

1074
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: next step, because Kevin O'Connell now has five days, right,

1075
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: five days to get nine's feet and shoulders in head

1076
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Speaker 2: in the right direction on quick game. He has five

1077
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Speaker 2: days to say, Okay, how did they cover Justin Jefferson

1078
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: and how do I make sure I keep eighteen involved?

1079
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Speaker 2: Because AJ Brown was getting similar over the top. I

1080
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 2: mean we heard the micd up AJ Brown cursing out

1081
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 2: DBS because they're saying XYZ's like, dude, you got help

1082
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 2: all game?

1083
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 5: Shut up?

1084
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 2: You know, Like that's when it's like, okay, the minute

1085
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Speaker 2: you notice Man go to it.

1086
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Speaker 5: And I will say today I.

1087
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: Kept trying to look for Man every time I saw

1088
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: that safety creep into the box, and like Justin as Man,

1089
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: he did throw it to him, but like the fade

1090
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: route with Santa Strill back there, it just kind of

1091
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: was a weird throw. It looked like he kind of

1092
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: rushed it and through it too far versus throwing it

1093
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: to his back shoulder, like towards the sideline or the pylon.

1094
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Speaker 2: Because I think he makes that catch. Sant Astria could

1095
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Speaker 2: have made it over there. So again, that's just the

1096
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Speaker 2: kid learning, like, hey, great throw, you recognize man coverage.

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Speaker 2: You knew Justin Jefferson gonna be down the field one on one,

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00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 2: But you got to throw it outside the numbers like

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00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 2: he threw it inside, and so again that's just learning.

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Speaker 2: It went quick for him. He caught it, but it

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00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: was just throw it inside and those sometimes really good safeties,

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00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 2: like good things.

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00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 5: Santatro didn't see the ball. That's a pick. It's a pick.

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00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 5: So well, we've seen him throw picks. I think, at

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00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 5: least I think.

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00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 2: Santasdro being a Michigan guy too, though he didn't want.

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00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 5: To pick his boy out. That's probably what it was.

1108
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 5: He's like, you know what, let me keep this game.

1109
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 2: Connor Stallion's text me and said if I don't intercept this.

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00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 5: He'll pay me. Let me relax.

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00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 3: I think he's had a couple of interceptions just like that.

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00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 13: Throw.

1113
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: We talked about it like whatever games ago. Yeah, he's

1114
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: throwing it inside the numbers or inside the scene versus outside.

1115
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: One specifically against the Ravens, that one that Malachi Stars

1116
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 3: had enough time to basically run across the.

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00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: Same it's the same Max Broseman interception though the same

1118
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 2: exact one He threw it inside, and that's not the throw.

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00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: You go to the other side to Justin Jefferson. He

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00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 2: had man coverage. So because they went split, they went

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00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 2: split coverage. They went man to the field and quarters

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00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: to the boundary. If they go quarters to the boundary,

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00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,479
Speaker 2: that number one corner can guard one and two going

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00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 2: up the scene and.

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00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 5: Up the hash or sorry, up the side line.

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00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 2: So you go the other way to Justin Jefferson manned up, Like,

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00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 2: you know, it's like Tom Brady if I got Randy Moss,

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00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 2: remember he said this, if I got Randy Moss, I'm

1129
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: just throwing it right and say, hey, go get it.

1130
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: Like that's the mindset you have to have when you

1131
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 2: got Justin Jefferson manned up. But again, this is a

1132
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 2: rookie and Max Brosman and this is a rookie and

1133
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 2: Justin and JJ McCarthy, Like Drew Brees through sixteen picks. Yeah,

1134
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: you know, like this because the thing if we didn't

1135
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: if we had Twitter in two thousand and two, just

1136
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 2: imagine what people were saying about Drew Brees back then.

1137
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 5: He was a first round pick and.

1138
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 2: They our second round maybe I think, but you know,

1139
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 2: they probably hated Drew Brees with that eleven touchdown sixteen interceptions,

1140
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 2: Like we be killing our quarterbacks.

1141
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 5: If that was the case, be good. Yeah, so you know,

1142
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 5: maybe let's just see what happens.

1143
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 3: Let's take a call here, well finish to sow patients

1144
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 3: for JJ McCarthy.

1145
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 5: Up Bears, Packers fight. I'm getting after it.

1146
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 3: Packer's up seven to nothing late stages of the second quarter.

1147
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 3: George Pickens, you mentioned him next opponent. Did you see

1148
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 3: kind of anything going viral after that game in terms

1149
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 3: of there were he's getting ripped on for not running

1150
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 3: routes where he just kind of he was kind of

1151
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 3: just lackadaisically, just kind of running as if he was

1152
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 3: not expecting to get the ball. I think they're I

1153
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 3: think they're kind of highlighting.

1154
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 5: And overplaying it a little bit.

1155
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 20: Yeah it is.

1156
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 5: I mean, here's the thing.

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00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 2: This is a kid that when he got drafted, he

1158
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 2: was too took a picture in a poosh heisty in

1159
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 2: front of his TV getting.

1160
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 5: Drafted the NFL. So I don't know what a poos

1161
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 5: shisty is.

1162
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 2: Just google it, but he had a shisty on is.

1163
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 5: That appropriate for the work computer?

1164
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1165
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, shisty Yeah, it's just a mask. It's just

1166
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 5: what the.

1167
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 2: Kids call it because a rapper poos sh heisty. You know,

1168
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 2: he wears one, and the kids were shaty, pooh shisty.

1169
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 2: Yeah it's a rapper. Yeah, OK, just like forty two

1170
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 2: Dug and all that hip hop, hip hop stiff.

1171
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 5: But when you when you look at where you look at.

1172
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 2: Uh, you know George Picktens, like look at the what

1173
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 2: was it the Steelers?

1174
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 17: Right?

1175
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 5: His first goal? At it with Ike? Not Ike? What's

1176
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 5: the young Porter junior?

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00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,439
Speaker 2: You know, Joey Porter catches a fade route on him,

1178
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 2: hands him the ball.

1179
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 5: This is your teammate and you're trying to show.

1180
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 2: Him up in practice, you know, Like that's just George Pickens.

1181
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,240
Speaker 2: You know he stood what he did on the sideline.

1182
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 2: He went to the sideline, didn't want to go back

1183
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:13,919
Speaker 2: in the game.

1184
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 5: Like that's Pickens. Like he's gonna give you great moments

1185
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 5: and he's gonna give you that. So I think you

1186
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 5: take the good with the bad.

1187
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 2: The biggest thing for him is a team is gonna

1188
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 2: have to decide is he worth whatever he's gonna ask

1189
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 2: for this offseason?

1190
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 5: Is he worth eighty million or seventy million.

1191
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 2: Can he keep it together, you know, because he's not

1192
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 2: off the field problem person, he's an on the field problem. Like,

1193
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: if you ever want to laugh, just google George Pickens unhinged.

1194
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: It is the funniest plays in football I've ever seen.

1195
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 2: Like one time a dude's just land on the ground,

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00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: George Pickens runs by and wwe jumps in the air

1197
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 2: and elbows him, like why what are you doing?

1198
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 5: He just loses it every once in a while and

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Speaker 5: he's unhinged.

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00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 2: But if you can keep him controlled, which eighty eight

1201
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 2: has been doing, Ceedee Lamb has been doing, he's gonna

1202
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: give you production, which ends up being one of the

1203
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 2: best receivers in the game right now next to Jackson

1204
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 2: Smith and Jigbu you know. Yeah, But again, can he

1205
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 2: hold on to that long term? See, I think they're

1206
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 2: gonna blow it up because that's what Pickens has been.

1207
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 5: His pass has.

1208
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 2: Been murky and funny and just quirky. But he gives

1209
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 2: you those plays like last week that one on one

1210
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 2: fade where he toe tapped on the side. That's beautiful.

1211
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 5: It is beautiful.

1212
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 2: But then every once in a while he'll do the like

1213
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 2: it's not coming to me, I'm just gonna skin, chill out,

1214
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 2: jog down here and do my thing.

1215
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, like West Energy.

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00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 3: At this rate, we're gonna say goodbye to the Greater

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Speaker 3: Vikings Radio slash Audio Network. Vikings win today thirty one nothing,

1218
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 3: their first shutout in two years. We dig that next

1219
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 3: up for the Minnesota Vikings, it's a road affair. The

1220
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 3: Minnesota Vikings are at the Cowboys and as of now,

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's subject to change. Maybe Sunday night

1222
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 3: football at Dallas Stadium, the five and eight Vikings facing

1223
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,720
Speaker 3: the Cowboys, be an hour before kickoff and the boom

1224
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 3: than fan line and maybe a six win team. What

1225
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 3: are the next steps for JJ McCarthy. If you are

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00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 3: Quist thirty one to nothing the final at US Bank

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00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 3: Stadium today the Vikings beat the Visiting Commanders and improve

1250
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 3: to five and eight In the twenty twenty five season.

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Speaker 3: ONNRDO from nine to noon, Ron Johnson is here, Max

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Speaker 3: Fuller producing Max by the Way, and meets us Paul Lambert.

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00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 3: They'll be taking you through Vikings overtime right around the

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Speaker 3: top of the hour, so stay tuned for that. Texts

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Speaker 3: and talkbacks and calls. Galore, So let's just jump right

1256
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 3: into it. A shut out at US Bank Stadium after

1257
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 3: being shut out a week ago in Seattle. We'll check

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00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 3: in with Nathan Inatseigo. Nathan, welcome Vikings fan line.

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00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 20: Hey, I appreciate the time. I do take issue with

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00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 20: one call you've made already, and it's not a WWE elbow.

1261
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 20: That's either the people's elbow or that's oh yeah, macho

1262
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 20: man coming off the top rope. So there's two elbows

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00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 20: you gotta mention, fair point.

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00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 21: Absolutely yeah, absolutely so out here on Seago and Rogers area,

1265
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 21: in between playing an initial game at local bars, even

1266
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 21: breaking on tape.

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00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 20: Of Peyton Manning, and I'm telling you we're in the

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00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 20: virtue with this kid, just giving time and he'll stand

1269
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 20: up and become our quarterback in the future for the

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00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 20: next ten years.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for the call, Nathan. I appreciate it.

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00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 8: JJ heading in the right direction. So in terms of

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00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 8: takeaways at this stage of the season, yeah, it's the

1276
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 8: play call to doo though unless we win them all.

1277
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 8: Unless we win the all call. A topic is building JJ,

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00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 8: the simplification. I believe what we talked about about an

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00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 8: hour ago, playing maybe into some of the six yes today.

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00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 2: So I hate to be an antagonist too, because we

1281
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 2: got these calls last week.

1282
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 5: At what point do we call them the quick game?

1283
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 5: Quarterback whisper? Again, I'm just.

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00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 8: Saying, did we ever call him the quick game? And

1285
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 8: that's a new one. It was just a QB whisper.

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00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 8: It's just a lot, I know, it's it's a lot

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00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 8: of it's a lot, and it's a lot to fit

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00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 8: on a business card.

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Speaker 5: Well, but today you.

1290
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 2: Got it figured out today, no interceptions, three touchdowns.

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00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 5: So I I mean, I would just imagine then.

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00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 3: That this is the this is the playbook moving forward

1293
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 3: that we are working and maybe now now the coaches

1294
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 3: the coach's task is to figure out how do I

1295
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 3: slowly start to re implement some of the things that I.

1296
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 5: Was asking him to do before.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, you led me right into that one, right.

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00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 2: So here's here's where I'm nervous. Right, So I tweeted

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Speaker 2: this's three Ron Johnson on Twitter. By the way, it's

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Speaker 2: three Ron Johnson. So I tweeted out a video of

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Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle. You remember the Chapelle Show. I know maximum

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Speaker 2: Corse Sauce does.

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00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 8: But remember when he was acceptable for me to laugh

1304
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 8: at the Chapelle show, am I allowed to to think

1305
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 8: of start?

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 21: Uh?

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00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: Remember when he was Tyrone the crackhead, right, and he

1309
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 2: went to the like he went to the meeting and

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00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 2: he thought he was getting free crack, but it was

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Speaker 2: actually intervention.

1312
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 5: Intervention. Yeah, and he's like which one.

1313
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 8: He you know what?

1314
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 5: He's scratching his neck and he's like, which wenty are

1315
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 5: total me? You know whatever.

1316
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 2: That's how Koc I feel like he was in the

1317
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 2: school that one.

1318
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 5: He like rob the kids, don't tell nobody, shut up.

1319
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 3: The lady for a car.

1320
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 5: He knew her so good, so good. But when you

1321
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 5: think about.

1322
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 2: That, right, it's like Koc, it's like a fix, right,

1323
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 2: I gotta go deep. I gotta go deep. But it's

1324
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 2: like no, just like, let's wean you off of that.

1325
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 2: Let's stick to this. Let's go quick game. Let's run

1326
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 2: the ball. Let's go quick game. Let's run the ball,

1327
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 2: you know, Let's get a big lead and then we'll

1328
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 2: let you get a hit. We'll let you go deep.

1329
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 2: Like we'll let you go play action. Roll out to

1330
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 2: the left opposite the quarterback, strong suit and just throw

1331
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 2: the ball as far as he can throw it.

1332
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 5: We can do that.

1333
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 3: But what happened, like Mark Wilf, who else, I mean,

1334
00:57:55,160 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 3: who who else is in there? McCown, west Phillips in there,

1335
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 3: JJ's in there.

1336
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 2: It's all like Kevin O'Connell's friends, his wife and kids

1337
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 2: are even in there and and knowing and his son's

1338
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 2: like dad, like it's it's okay, you can. You can

1339
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 2: put the third and one deep balls down.

1340
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 3: But here's the problem is is after there's an emotional moment,

1341
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 3: there's hugging, there's all of those things, he walks out

1342
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 3: of the room and he's kind of feeling good, he's

1343
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 3: all right. And then Jefferson's sitting around there in that

1344
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 3: dark alley.

1345
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 8: I don't know who said this. He's got the bag,

1346
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 8: he's full of deep plays. Somebody said there some go

1347
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 8: with the with the trench. Cody opens it up, correct, yes,

1348
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 8: and a light shines and he looks at it all

1349
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 8: of a sudden, it's the it's actually so somebody joking they

1350
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 8: said that the play sheet you know that he has

1351
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 8: with all the deep balls on third and one. Yeah,

1352
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 8: somebody saying, like west Phillips just cut it off.

1353
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 5: And then.

1354
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 2: So third what he got to He says, oh, what

1355
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 2: do I call here?

1356
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 5: You just got to run the ball coach, all right?

1357
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 2: Like, but but I go with this, like you know

1358
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 2: he's gonna have to implement it, right because you you

1359
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 2: you have to allow him to maybe can a play

1360
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 2: kill a play to get to a better run play?

1361
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 8: Well it's not long term sustainable, correct, But you have

1362
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 8: to simplify maybe how he's doing it. So the simple

1363
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 8: way I used to learn how to kill a play

1364
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 8: was the alignment of the guy over the center first right,

1365
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 8: So you start where you count with him, and you

1366
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 8: look to your right.

1367
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 5: How many guys are my right? How many guys in

1368
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 5: my left?

1369
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 2: If I have a run play called to the right,

1370
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 2: but I got four over there and I got three

1371
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 2: to the left, I'm gonna just kill it, kill it,

1372
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,919
Speaker 2: kill it, can can can? I'm gonna go opposite right.

1373
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 5: That's it. You keep it simple.

1374
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,439
Speaker 2: You don't allow him to kill it and then call

1375
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 2: another play. And that's where I think maybe it got

1376
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 2: a little tricky, is where he had maybe a couple

1377
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 2: plays in his headset, like Peyton manning right. Tom Moore

1378
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 2: would say he would give Peyton three plays, two to

1379
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 2: three plays and then Peyton got to choose well on

1380
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 2: each of.

1381
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 5: Those plays might have six variants, I mean correct, like

1382
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 5: we did the same.

1383
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: I remember like when I was learning the coach playbook

1384
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 2: as a young coach, I could not believe how complex

1385
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 2: it was. And then after about six months, I was like, oh,

1386
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 2: this is simple as a receipt least. I don't know

1387
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,439
Speaker 2: about the offensive line. I'm like, I see why jeff

1388
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 2: Saturday and Peyton Gotten do it so much. But from

1389
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 2: a receiver, I'm like, it's pretty simple. We're running the

1390
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 2: same concepts. We're just lining up in different places and

1391
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 2: it's the same stuff. And I think that's where maybe

1392
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 2: JJ has to forget about, like where's Justin Jefferson or

1393
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 2: where's this player who is this supposed to go to?

1394
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 5: And just say what's the concept?

1395
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 2: And I think that's when he said, I'm keeping it simple,

1396
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 2: like I just want you to learn the concept. The

1397
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 2: concept of this is Justin Jefferson has a corner route,

1398
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 2: the tight end has the hitch underneath, the hook behind it.

1399
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 2: The minute you see Justin go, if the linebacker scatter,

1400
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 2: just throw the hitch. Don't even look at Justin no more.

1401
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 2: And I think that's what happened today. He stopped trying

1402
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 2: to feed the ball into the deep spots and said,

1403
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 2: let me just take this six yard route here. And

1404
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 2: the minute he did that, then the commanders had to

1405
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 2: honor the short stuff. That's when you saw the cornerby,

1406
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 2: you know. So it's like you got to I think

1407
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 2: he's teaching him how to play quarterback, which he didn't

1408
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 2: do in college. Let's be real, like against Penn State,

1409
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 2: they didn't run, didn't throw the ball in second half

1410
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 2: right literally because we know we know Harbo had his phone,

1411
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 2: he had a burner on him and he was texas

1412
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 2: your own more from the hotel. Hey, just run the ball.

1413
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 2: Penn State can't stop the run. We got the best

1414
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 2: running back in the country. Run the ball. So that's

1415
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 2: where I think Jay's learning. And Kevin O'Connell, like he

1416
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 2: could say all the stuff, shoulders, feet toes. It's just basically,

1417
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 2: I'm teaching how to play quarterback again, and it's it's

1418
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 2: okay to be in that spot.

1419
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 5: Now that we understand what he's doing.

1420
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 3: Let's take another call and then we'll pause. Tyler and

1421
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 3: man Cato. Tyler, Welcome to Vikings fan line.

1422
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 10: Hey guys, thanks to stay. McCall I just had a

1423
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 10: couple of points to making them that question. So I'm

1424
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 10: looking at u stats from Caleb Williams and Drake May

1425
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 10: and their rookie season. Drake went three and nine before injury,

1426
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 10: h and Caleb went five and twelve.

1427
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: Last year.

1428
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 10: JJ is now three and four and turnovers Really aren't

1429
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 10: that just similar? Except for Caleb was pretty good on

1430
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 10: touchdowns versus interceptions, but got sacked sixty eight times and

1431
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 10: lost five fumbles. I don't really see that much difference

1432
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 10: between those three quarterbacks in JJ's first year leading the

1433
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 10: Helm here. I just think that we just have such

1434
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 10: a smaller sample size of him, and we put them

1435
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 10: up against those guys now in their second year who

1436
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 10: are both doing very well. Don't don't you guys feel,

1437
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 10: or at least I do, that there should be a

1438
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 10: room for optimism and and JJ and and progressing through

1439
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 10: the rest of this season, in the in the next

1440
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 10: and through a full healthy offseason.

1441
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1442
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 3: I appreciate the call. Tyler again kind of back into

1443
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 3: the comparison game. I'm not necessarily I mean, the Drew

1444
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 3: Brees thing still kind of it gets me a little

1445
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 3: bit wrong. But in the end, it's fair to make

1446
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 3: those comparisons we've talked about in nine to noon. I

1447
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 3: personally in terms of optimism, whether it's Tyler or everybody

1448
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 3: listening to fan line right now, I need to see

1449
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 3: this repeated. Yeah, so today's Today's really fun like before

1450
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 3: weeks feel good, you know, in terms of you know,

1451
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 3: if you're not going to be they're curmudgeonly scrooge of

1452
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 3: sorts complaining about a team winning at this stage of

1453
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 3: the season. Again, you're free to do that too, but

1454
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 3: if you want to find positives in the game, we

1455
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 3: just watched JJ McCarthy play the best that we've seen

1456
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 3: him play in the NFL.

1457
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 5: So that's cool. I need to see it again though,

1458
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, I mean, good things happen today.

1459
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 3: That's all good. Now is this needs to be the floor,

1460
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, if I'm going to be optive,

1461
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 3: if I'm going to be optimistic into twenty twenty six,

1462
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 3: performances like what we saw today, where he was more accurate,

1463
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 3: the decision making was good. Now, that doesn't mean that

1464
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 3: he has to be perfect from here on out. He

1465
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 3: finally win a game without throwing a pick, that's cool.

1466
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 3: Dig that need more of that. But in the end,

1467
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 3: I just think that this needs to be repeated in

1468
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 3: terms of he's definitely going to make more mistakes. He's

1469
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 3: going to take a lot of sacks. I mean, how

1470
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 3: many he was sacked four times today? Okay, A couple of.

1471
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 2: Them were like running the ball though and getting stopped

1472
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 2: at the goal line or the whatever, the line of scrimmage.

1473
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 2: So it's a zero yard gain sack.

1474
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 3: So still okay, But still technically if you if you

1475
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 3: so twenty four times through seven games, that would if

1476
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 3: you bring that out on the average over it's fifty

1477
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 3: eight sacks.

1478
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 8: That's too many sacks. So again, a lot of things

1479
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 8: to improve. I think what Caleb was, what was it

1480
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 8: like sixty something sixty eight?

1481
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but in the neighborhood, so a little less

1482
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 3: than yeah, what is that point seven ish extra sacks

1483
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 3: a game that that Caleb took over what we're seeing on.

1484
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 5: The one sack too many from being iconic.

1485
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 3: Indeed, So, but but to that end, I need to

1486
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 3: see this become more of the standard than an anomaly. Yeah,

1487
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 3: and that that would bring me the optimism into twenty six.

1488
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 2: I still got to go back to the to the

1489
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 2: to the to the quarterback room. You know, you got maccown,

1490
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 2: you got West Phillips, you got KOC. You know, at

1491
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 2: the end of the day, they're gonna implement what Kaos wants.

1492
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 2: They're gonna practice it. You know, Keenan McCardell is gonna

1493
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 2: get the receivers running the routes that KOC is requesting. Yeah,

1494
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 2: and then from there their job is done. Right on Sunday,

1495
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 2: it's just Kevin gonna call the plays that they just

1496
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 2: worked on. Is he gonna let JJ do what he

1497
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 2: said he's gonna do, which is I'm gonna keep it

1498
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 2: simp before you. I'm not asking you to change the

1499
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 2: theory of oxygen inside of a balloon. You know, just

1500
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 2: go out there, read high low, be done with it.

1501
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 2: High corner, low, hitch, get the ball out of your hands.

1502
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 5: That's it.

1503
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 2: Don't worry about this, this, this, and this. Just go

1504
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 2: high low, high low every time. And if you can

1505
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 2: do that, you can win. I watched Sam Donald I

1506
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 2: broke it down a bunch of Seahawks film and this

1507
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 2: week even in our like ken JJ McCarthy do this.

1508
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 2: One of our plays was Sam Darn. Two of our

1509
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 2: players were Sam Donald versus this team. The Commanders Sam

1510
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 2: Donald high low every time, and his high was Jackson

1511
01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 2: Smith and Jig Bowing to dig route. His low was

1512
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 2: an outroute to the tight end. The Commanders were so bad.

1513
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 2: He had both options, but he took you know, he

1514
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 2: took the high ball. You know, they went court cover four.

1515
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 2: He had the out route, you know, the Lions. Sorry,

1516
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 2: and I'm going to Jared Golf now, out route to

1517
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 2: test law, not Tesla, but test law right cover four

1518
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 2: guys back, twelve yards.

1519
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 5: Just throw the out route.

1520
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 2: Like that's the things that I think Kevin O'Connor was noticing.

1521
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 2: And again that's the Commander's team. I'll have to watch,

1522
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 2: you know, I haven't watched a lot of Cowboys film.

1523
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it tonight and tomorrow. But that's the

1524
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 2: key is what do the Cowboys do? What is their tendency?

1525
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 2: Where are they off? And where can Kevin o'cann exploit it?

1526
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 2: Because I saw like everything I saw it was implemented

1527
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 2: today against the Commanders. Now, and I'm gonna guess it's

1528
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connor's looking at that too, now, like what's the

1529
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 2: simple way to beat this defense?

1530
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 5: I don't want to be tricky. You do that. I

1531
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 5: think JJ McCarthy can execute.

1532
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 6: Just mine.

1533
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 3: That's Ron Johnson, IMNRDO from nine to noon Vikings win

1534
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 3: thirty one, nothing over the Commanders. We're gonna pause the

1535
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 3: next segment. I'll bring you our local Chevy Dealers drive

1536
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 3: of the game that's ahead for your five and eight vikings.

1537
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 5: Via fan Line on the Fan.

1538
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 16: This is r L from Minneapolis. I would lay Ron's

1539
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 16: comment on the tackle on Ertz. It was similar to

1540
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 16: what happened to Hockinson back a year or so ago.

1541
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 16: Wondering if the way there's a way for the league

1542
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 16: to address that particular type of tackle because he was

1543
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 16: to a certain extent.

1544
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 6: Vulnerable.

1545
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 16: I would like his comment.

1546
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 5: Thanks, yeah, thanks RL, Thanks for all the talkbacks.

1547
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 3: Ron, I think it was Jay Ward who I mean,

1548
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 3: he ended mister Ertz's season. It appears he saw that

1549
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 3: hit and the video on X and so, I mean,

1550
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 3: slow motion just makes so many things worse.

1551
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 5: There's no doubt about it. It is similar.

1552
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 3: It's it's it's similar to what Kirby Joseph did to

1553
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 3: Hawkinson and hands of the location and Higbee, but it's

1554
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 3: different because I believe both Hawkinson and Higbee had their

1555
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 3: legs planted on the ground, correct.

1556
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 2: And they had just turned, so they were vulnerable because

1557
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 2: they could not cut and their foot was stuck in

1558
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 2: the ground and got hit in the knee.

1559
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 5: So it's this crazy thing I've heard other players. You

1560
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 5: can tell me.

1561
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 3: He is a guy that played at a high level.

1562
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 3: I think most players would rather be hit in the

1563
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 3: head than hit in the knee, correct, and so, but

1564
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 3: but then.

1565
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 5: It's not so much the head, but like, let them

1566
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 5: hit me in the shoulder.

1567
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's because they're even saying that now, you can't

1568
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 2: hit a guy in the air in the shoulder, that's defenseless.

1569
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:47,640
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. So what am I supposed to wait for

1570
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 2: you to come down and then hug you right or

1571
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 2: catch you in the air like.

1572
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,600
Speaker 3: So, I think the issue is that they've kind of

1573
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 3: they've lowered the window of and and have kind of

1574
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 3: forced players low in that regard. Now, and this one

1575
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 3: Ertz is jumping Jay Ward's probably doing a quick little,

1576
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 3: you know, an easy math question in his head. Urtz

1577
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 3: is a lot bigger than me, So for me to

1578
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,719
Speaker 3: try and go up and maybe hit him at chess level,

1579
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna lose that battle, but I absolutely can win

1580
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 3: if I catch him in the in the thigh, which

1581
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 3: it looks like that's probably where he's going. I don't

1582
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, jay Ward. I just assume

1583
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 3: most players aren't actually trying to injure guys like this. Uh,

1584
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 3: that one just looks like perfect sadly, the perfect place

1585
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 3: to hit him, right because his foot's not planted, he's

1586
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 3: in the air. You're picturing at the worst, he's gonna

1587
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 3: get up ended and bounce off his head, you know.

1588
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 1: What I mean.

1589
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to sixty to fifty five, you know,

1590
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:43,759
Speaker 2: to sixty versus one ninety.

1591
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, and war probably right now is probably more like

1592
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 5: one eighty five.

1593
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 2: You know, Like Ertz is on the bigger side as

1594
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 2: he gets to the end his career, jay Ward on

1595
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 2: the early part of his career is probably lighter than

1596
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 2: what his says.

1597
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's sixty pounds.

1598
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 2: You got to make a business decision there, because then

1599
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 2: that's your shoulder, like if you take a hit. I mean,

1600
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:03,759
Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard the one I interviewed

1601
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 2: Roy Williams about that, and he was saying that, and

1602
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 2: Clint portis Clint Porters was saying, if I knew what

1603
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 2: I know now, meaning he didn't get to ten thousand

1604
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,600
Speaker 2: yards rushing, he said, I never would have tried to

1605
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 2: block Michael Strahan coming free, and that's how he heard

1606
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 2: the shoulder Michael Strahan came free. He stepped up in

1607
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 2: the pocket to kind of he said, I would have

1608
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 2: probably like just thrown my body sideways and let him

1609
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 2: just push me over, you know, not kill my quarterback.

1610
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 2: But I'm not going to stick my shoulder in here

1611
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 2: and try to hit a I don't know what straight

1612
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 2: hand waved at that time to eighty sure, you know,

1613
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 2: and portis ise ninety, you know, like and you tell

1614
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 2: me I got to take him on with my shoulder,

1615
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 2: cause again, you can't cut rushing guys like that, you.

1616
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 5: Know, like it's just it's so much. And he said

1617
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 5: I would He said, I probably would.

1618
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 2: Have taken the penalty if they would give me a

1619
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 2: penalty and just try to cut the tray hand like

1620
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 2: I can't take them up high. And jay Ward, like

1621
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 2: when you watch that back, Marcus Mariota completely through the

1622
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 2: wrong ball. The ball should have went over Jayward's head

1623
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 2: to the guy running down the eye line because nobody

1624
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 2: was covering him. Jay Ward is just playing zone, sitting

1625
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 2: there and covered too, and he's like, oh, wait, you're

1626
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 2: about to throw this.

1627
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 5: Oh you're throwing this, and he threw it.

1628
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:10,560
Speaker 2: I just don't see it as a dirty hit, No,

1629
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 2: he was. I think he was trying to aim at

1630
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 2: the unfortunately at the higher part of the hip. But

1631
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 2: you know, it was just making sure I don't go

1632
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 2: above and hit him in the shoulders or neck. And

1633
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, I'm getting a pink slip

1634
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 2: because I'm getting fined and you know, a flag and

1635
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 2: he's can cussed. But yeah, a lot of tight ends

1636
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 2: have come out, and I think Hackinson even said it

1637
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 2: after he got hurt. He's like, man, hit me in

1638
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 2: the shoulder, I'd rather get hitting the head. Like a

1639
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 2: lot of tight ends have said that because this is

1640
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 2: a safety tight end problem. They are asked like the

1641
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 2: window and target is getting smaller and smaller, and now

1642
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 2: you're asking me to go even smaller because if I

1643
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 2: hit him in the stomach, you're gonna say he's defenseless, right,

1644
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 2: Like he's defensives regardless. So let's just say, okay, if

1645
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 2: you catch the ball in the air when you come down.

1646
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 2: You got to stop right there, like that's the only

1647
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 2: other answer. You can't run after you catch it in

1648
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 2: the air in the middle of the field. Why are

1649
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 2: we doing This's that's what's coming down to cause it's like,

1650
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 2: what do you want me to do? It's going to

1651
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 2: come down and run me over, and now I'm a

1652
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 2: highlight to him.

1653
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 3: Let's do this. Our local Chevy Dealers just really thankful

1654
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,560
Speaker 3: for their sponsorship and support of Vikings fan line. The

1655
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 3: Local Chevy Dealers drive of the game. It featured nineteen plays,

1656
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 3: twelve freaking minutes off the clock, how about that? And

1657
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 3: late first and then just a massive chunk of the

1658
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 3: second quarter. Five third down conversions, four of which were

1659
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 3: third and six or longer, including a third and one

1660
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 3: with an eight yard rush by Jordan Mason to cap

1661
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 3: it off.

1662
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 22: Third and one from Minnesota from the eight. The Vikings

1663
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 22: are four or four on third down. McCarthy under center,

1664
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 22: hands it to Mason, sprint to the left to the

1665
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:40,600
Speaker 22: five to the ze.

1666
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 6: Touch Ta.

1667
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 22: Jordon Mason with his six rushing touchdown this year, and

1668
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 22: Minnesota has taken up thirteen.

1669
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 3: Serially, that is your local Chevy Dealers drive of the game,

1670
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:57,560
Speaker 3: all part of a game that ended thirty one to

1671
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 3: nothing in favor of your favorite team. First shut out

1672
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 3: by the Vikings over their opponent since twenty twenty three,

1673
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 3: that awful Dobbs game three nothing win at Vegas. Before that,

1674
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 3: it was sixteen nothing the Vikings beat the Packers at

1675
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 3: Lambeau towards the end of that twenty seventeen season.

1676
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 5: Other than that hadn't happened.

1677
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 3: No shutouts for your Vikings since nineteen ninety three, So

1678
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 3: rarities in.

1679
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 8: Recent decades for your Purple. But they did it today

1680
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:24,959
Speaker 8: over the Commanders.

1681
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 3: One more pause. We're going to come back and put

1682
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 3: a bow on this thing and then hand the baton

1683
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 3: off to Saucy and Max Fuller.

1684
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 5: It's Vikings fan line on the fan.

1685
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 8: Hi Isaac from Woodbury.

1686
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 5: We'll go Isaac. JJ did well today.

1687
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 3: I agree the play Calor was good.

1688
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, JJ did well with it.

1689
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 8: I'm excited for the future. Thanks guys, love the show. Well,

1690
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 8: Thank you, Isaac. Thank everybody for listening and for the talkbacks.

1691
01:13:59,360 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 5: That was a Ventril.

1692
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 23: So I'm sure you noticed that McCarthy's leg whip was

1693
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 23: back today and I'm sure this went back to his

1694
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 23: being able to process more quickly leading to the success

1695
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 23: that he's had today. I'm just wondering if KOC, now

1696
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 23: that he's seen a little bit of his success on

1697
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 23: McCarthy's part, is going to force him back to concentrate

1698
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 23: on his footwork and thereby causing him to regress again

1699
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 23: against the Cowboys, the Giants.

1700
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 16: And so on.

1701
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting that you bring that up, because I

1702
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 3: believe the head coach was even mentioning some footwork and

1703
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 3: fundamentals during this press conference today. But it was also

1704
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,719
Speaker 3: it appears the most accurate that we've seen the QB

1705
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 3: in his seven appearances thus far in twenty twenty five

1706
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 3: leg whip and all Vikings win thirty one nothing. And

1707
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 3: that's kind of how well, let's put a rap on

1708
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 3: it with us, Ron, What is it that you want

1709
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 3: to see? I mean, is it just it's obvious, just

1710
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 3: more steps from JJ That is the next step for

1711
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 3: a five win team is more steps for the quarterback. Right, Yeah,

1712
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 3: so first down?

1713
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 1: Right?

1714
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 2: The Cowboys defense as well, gives what five point seven

1715
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 2: yards on first down?

1716
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 5: Do what you did today?

1717
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 2: They didn't have a third down in the first drive.

1718
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 2: They attacked on first and second down, but it wasn't

1719
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 2: go deep. It was five yard seven yard, five yard,

1720
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 2: seven yard and it one's third and one run the ball.

1721
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 2: I just want to see that. Just stick to that

1722
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 2: and be okay with it. Well, that's it for Vikings

1723
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 2: fan line.

1724
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 3: Thank you to Ron Johnson, thank you to Max Fuller

1725
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,679
Speaker 3: meets us Paul Lambert eating while talking on the microphone.

1726
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 5: It's like I was listening to the noon to three show.

1727
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 3: It was awesome, and it was awesome seeing the team

1728
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 3: feel some success on the field today as they beat

1729
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 3: the Commanders. The Vikings win thirty one nothing in a romp.

1730
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 8: Three touchdowns by the QB, no picks dig that, no

1731
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 8: turnovers for JJ McCarthy and three touchdowns for him.

1732
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 3: A lot of tight end action. Ron loves that, as

1733
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 3: we all know. Tomorrow live in Local five thirty am,

1734
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 3: you'll hear from the Power Trip pumping it up montage

1735
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:03,799
Speaker 3: at nine. We're back on our feed again and coverage

1736
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 3: all the way leading you up to Sunday night football

1737
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:07,919
Speaker 3: Vikings at the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: That's it for US.

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Speaker 3: Packers up early third quarter, fourteen to three over the Bears.

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Speaker 8: It's Vikings overtime. Next with Meat Sauce with Max Fuller

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Speaker 8: and I'm.

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Speaker 3: Nordo from nine to noon. Everybody have a great night.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for listening to kfa N and the Minnesota Vikings

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Speaker 3: Audio Network.