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Speaker 4: Get it done, then we could worry about the rest

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Speaker 4: of the roster. I agree with that. I'll elaborate here

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Speaker 4: afternoon from skyline Chile Crosstown Shootout as well. Brian Anderson

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Speaker 4: Center on Friday night. The Kyle Schwarber thing is isn't

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Speaker 4: going away? And the Kyle Schwarber discourse, if you will,

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Speaker 4: read another one today Charlie Goldsmith, whose newsletter is awesome,

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Speaker 4: Charlie's Chalkboard, which if you're not subscribing to it, I

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Speaker 4: don't know what you're doing. He writes about what the

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Speaker 4: ESPN dot com did a all thirty teams or all

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Speaker 4: thirty teams stand ahead of the winter meetings, and they

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Speaker 4: it's a power rankings got the Reds at twenty two.

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Speaker 4: There's some mathematical stuff here. The Reds have a like

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Speaker 4: Here's what's written about the Reds last sentence. Ready, get

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Speaker 4: There's the obvious, right, you're putting a legitimate home run

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Speaker 9: What's what's going on with Trey Hendrickson? Is you going

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Speaker 5: Should have been?

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Speaker 4: is massive, and so I'm with you. I think the

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Speaker 4: talk about the NFL. A game, we're paying attention to.

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Speaker 4: One's gonna win. We think one's gonna lose, barring a tie.

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Speaker 4: So the Bengals are gonna be two games behind. Whom

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Speaker 4: is it gonna be Baltimore laying six or Pittsburgh getting points?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, it's painful to watch both. The Steelers had

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Speaker 9: ninety seven rushing yards the average per game they're week.

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Speaker 9: They're number twenty seven in that category out of thirty

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Speaker 9: two teams. They even doubled it when they played Chicago

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Speaker 9: two games ago and still lost the game. That's an

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Speaker 9: indication of how many weaknesses this team has. Their defense

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Speaker 9: up and down. I mean, you can see in one

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Speaker 9: Mark Jackson, he's obviously not one hundred percent. I mean,

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Speaker 9: they just don't have the players there that these have.

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Speaker 9: Their offensive line getting beaten up here, So you got

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Speaker 9: two teams that are sitting entries. It's like a horse race,

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Speaker 9: seeing the Bengals four and eight saying, oh, we've got

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Speaker 9: to pick it up here, but they don't have enough

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Speaker 9: to pull away. I think Baltimore wins twenty seven to

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Speaker 9: twenty three, but Pittsburgh covers.

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Speaker 13: You got to pick one side.

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Speaker 4: Lee Sterling, Paramount sports dot Com is with us, all right,

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Speaker 4: speaking of the Bengals on the road getting five and

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Speaker 9: So on the road, it's interesting. Bengals number one in

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Speaker 9: I don't think Buffalo's that good. I know that they

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Speaker 9: they're going to run the football. But their offensive line

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Speaker 9: we're playing you know, they're playing Cincinnati, and Cincinnati has

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Speaker 9: on top of that, I think their defense isn't great.

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Speaker 9: You know, they have some good games, but you know,

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Speaker 9: as long as you know they're moving the ball and

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Speaker 4: On Thursdays, We're joined by our guy, Chad Brendall. We

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Speaker 9: Now, Hi, Chad, Hello, Crossover season.

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Speaker 6: It's fun.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure it is. I'm sure it is a lot

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Speaker 4: going on. Is Gisel James gonna play for the Bearcats

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Speaker 4: this season?

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Speaker 13: I don't think so.

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Speaker 6: That's the word I've gotten is back around the program.

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Speaker 5: Not necessary like.

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Speaker 6: Figured in to be part of the on floor product.

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Speaker 9: This year.

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Speaker 6: But I mean, I think you know as well as

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Speaker 6: I do, like, got a coach that's fighting for something.

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Speaker 6: We'll see so that I have been told not to

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Speaker 6: expect him to play, So in that sense, I don't

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Speaker 6: expect him to play, but this is college sports and

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Speaker 6: I never rule anything out anymore.

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Speaker 4: So we're not expecting him, but we wouldn't be surprised

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Speaker 4: if he does play.

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Speaker 6: I think that's probably the most fair assessment of the situation.

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Speaker 6: You would not see my shock face if we showed

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Speaker 6: up one day and it was like, just's playing tonight.

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Speaker 4: Okay, what if he played tomorrow?

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Speaker 6: I would be very surprised by that, to my knowledge,

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Speaker 6: Like he hasn't really practiced with the team since like June,

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Speaker 6: early July, so I think that would be pretty surprising.

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Speaker 4: Okay, assuming then no Jizzle tomorrow. How did the Bearcats

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Speaker 4: win at the Centas Center for the first time in

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Speaker 4: twenty four years?

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Speaker 6: They defend the three point line because that has been

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Speaker 6: a the most reliable, consistent way x has been scoring

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Speaker 6: since they kind of readjusted the lineup, and credit to Richard.

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Speaker 6: I think he's done a fantastic job with this group

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Speaker 6: to this point because things look really bad. And I

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Speaker 6: mean they looked bad, bad, and they don't look bad

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Speaker 6: bad anymore. Like I don't think they're jumping up to

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Speaker 6: compete with Yukon and Saint John's for the top of

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Speaker 6: the Big East this year. But he's taken a product

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Speaker 6: that looked like it was going to be a nightmare

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Speaker 6: and they're winning, like they're doing some winning things. And

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Speaker 6: I mean, look, you make sixteen threes a game like

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Speaker 6: they've done a couple times, things are going to get

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Speaker 6: a lot easier on the win column. But uh, that's

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Speaker 6: a big one for me. And I think, you know, what,

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Speaker 6: how does Cincinnati handle a team? I'm gonna it's gonna

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Speaker 6: be taken as a shot mo and I do not

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Speaker 6: intend this as a shot at all. Okay, right now,

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Speaker 6: Xavier's formula is they play a lot like a mid major.

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Speaker 6: They play five out, they spread you out. They don't

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Speaker 6: really have a lot of rim presence. They're not playing downhill,

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Speaker 6: they're not turning over, they're passing the ball well. Their

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Speaker 6: assists numbers are high, and they're making jump shots. And

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Speaker 6: that's you know, that's how a mid major like wins games.

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Speaker 6: Right How does how does Cincinnati defend that with you know,

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Speaker 6: Mustapha Chom and Bob A.

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Speaker 9: Miller.

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Speaker 6: Xavier's going to try to drag those guys out on

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Speaker 6: the floor and make them defend shooters twenty two feet

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Speaker 6: protect the rim yor one of the better two point

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Speaker 6: defenses in the country.

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Speaker 9: In large part.

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Speaker 6: Because those two guys are on the floor so defensively,

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Speaker 6: how does Cincinnati handle that? And offensively and like you've

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Speaker 6: got a much better seat than I do. It has

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Speaker 6: been hard to watch. There's not a lot of continuity,

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Speaker 6: There's not a lot of It doesn't seem like there's

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Speaker 6: a lot of trust between the team.

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Speaker 14: Yet.

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Speaker 6: I thought we saw some signs of improvement. The ball

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Speaker 6: moved better on Monday night, but it wasn't for forty minutes,

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Speaker 6: So they got.

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Speaker 9: A lot of work to do and not a lot

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Speaker 9: of time to do it.

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Speaker 4: I just it doesn't feel like from Game one on

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Speaker 4: November three to the eve of the Skyline Chili Crossdown shootout,

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Speaker 4: it just doesn't feel like they've improved.

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Speaker 6: That's part of the problem, right, Like we've talked about

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Speaker 6: this a lot over the past past week or so,

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Speaker 6: we're twenty five percent of the way through the season.

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Speaker 6: More than twenty five percent of the way through the season.

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Speaker 6: Where is that? You know, we talk a lot about, Hey,

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Speaker 6: it's a brand new team, the transfer portal. You know,

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Speaker 6: they're they're they're doing this, they're doing that, and then.

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Speaker 5: That's to me.

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Speaker 6: By the time you get into November and December, things

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Speaker 6: should be trending up because guys have got seven eight

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Speaker 6: nine games together. They're a little bit more comfortable with

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Speaker 6: where everybody likes to shoot and you know, where to

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Speaker 6: move the ball and how the offense operates.

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Speaker 5: Have we seen that really at all?

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Speaker 9: I mean not in enough.

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Speaker 6: Consistent stretches to feel good about it. And you know

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Speaker 6: what I think it is mo Unfortunately, team hasn't played

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Speaker 6: very hard and that's concerning that. They played hard against Dayton, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: they played hard Agains Dyton, They played hard against f Louisville.

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Speaker 6: What other of the the eight games could you look

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Speaker 6: at and say, man, they really they really were getting

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Speaker 6: after it tonight.

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Speaker 13: I can't think of any.

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Speaker 4: I just you use the T word trust. So this

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Speaker 4: is the first rough environment they're going to go into, right,

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Speaker 4: and it's going to be a rough environment. If you

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Speaker 13: Trust and was kind of a yeah, I digress.

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Speaker 4: I get it, But I mean team that hasn't developed

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Speaker 4: that yet. Good luck winning an environment like that against

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Speaker 4: a team that, say what you want about their limitations

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Speaker 4: has improved. And I think that's where most Bearcat fans are, right.

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Speaker 13: I think it's there.

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Speaker 6: Like, I don't know how you could could legitimately say

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Speaker 6: you feel good about this when you've watched the ARC

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Speaker 6: for Xavior over eight games or whatever it is, and

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Speaker 6: you've watched the ARC for Cincinnati over eight games or whatever,

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Speaker 6: like over eight games, Like, I don't know how you

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Speaker 6: could look at it and go, I feel really good

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Speaker 6: about where since Natty's act coming into this, and you

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Speaker 6: know Xavier's got work to do. That's you're lying to

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Speaker 6: yourself if you think that's the situation right now. Now,

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Speaker 6: maybe Cincinnati comes out and plays really hard and defends

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Speaker 6: and they make some shots and they don't look like

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Speaker 6: the two hundred and fourteenth offense in the country or

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Speaker 6: whatever they're ranked right now, and you know, we get

649
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Speaker 6: to Saturday and Friday night and we're like, oh.

650
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 13: Okay, that's what we wanted to see.

651
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 6: Cool, But I don't have any faith in that right now,

652
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 6: And I don't know how you could.

653
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 4: What happens to the intensity of whatever hot seat West

654
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 4: Miller is on if they don't win tomorrow.

655
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 6: Boy, I mean, you've already lost the Louisville. If you

656
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 6: lose the Xavier, and I know you've paid attention, Georgia

657
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 6: and Clemson are playing well, there's a chance you go

658
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 6: one in four in.

659
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 15: Those five games and.

660
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 6: Then you got to go into a big twelve that

661
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 6: is not only awesome at the top this year, but

662
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 6: the bottom has performed a lot better than I expected

663
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 6: through the first five weeks. So I would not recommend.

664
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 6: And look, da haven't won there since two thousand and one.

665
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 6: I don't feel great about saying they're going to go

666
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 6: in there and win. But if you're Wes, you have

667
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 6: got to go in there and get this done because

668
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 6: it gets late early if you've lost to Louisville and

669
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 6: Xavier and you've got Georgia and Clemson coming up on

670
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 6: home neutral But there's going to be more Georgia fans

671
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 6: in Atlanta. There's going to be more Clemson fans in Greenville.

672
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 6: Like you're climbing up a steep, steep hill in December.

673
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 6: Like I said before the season, and I took a

674
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 6: lot of heat for this. I said, you know, if

675
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 6: Cincinnati doesn't make the tournament, does West Miller get fired?

676
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 6: And I said, I need to see what it looks like.

677
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 6: I can't answer that question, and so I know what

678
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 6: it looks like. This looks bad so far. The time

679
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 6: to turn it around. Time to turn it around starts

680
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 6: tomorrow night.

681
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 9: Agreed, Because if you lose the Xavier.

682
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 6: Who they think that I've been using a Seinfeld reference

683
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 6: lately mo for the UC fan base. The sea was angry,

684
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 6: my friends.

685
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, I mean it's it's what his record

686
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 4: is against Xavier to this point. It's the quality of

687
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 4: the Xavier team that they lost to it since US

688
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 4: two years ago, which was not a very good team.

689
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 4: The caliber of the Xavier team now like nothing again. Again,

690
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 4: I think Richard Patino's done a really nice job with

691
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 4: the team that I watched get destroyed home by Santa Clara,

692
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 4: nearly beating Georgia housing West Virginia. They run good stuff,

693
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 4: like they're training in the right direction, which is why

694
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 4: there is all this unease. But it's not a very talented,

695
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 4: overly talented Savior Tiam you lose again to them, on

696
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 4: top of losing to Louisville, on top of how this

697
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 4: has looked, your message board is going to be a dark, dark,

698
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 4: dark place. Yeah, on Saturday morning. Appreciate it as always. Man,

699
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 4: We will talk next week.

700
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 6: Thanks.

701
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's our guy. Chad Brendel, Bearcat Journal dot com.

702
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Speaker 4: It's four o'clock ESPN fifteen.

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Speaker 10: Thirty with.

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Speaker 4: Ali. I'll get you super sure. Hi, this is ESPN

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Speaker 4: fifteen thirty. I'm mow Eggerm. Appreciate listening. I hope you're

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Speaker 4: having an awesome Thursday. Our friend and yours, Robert Weintraub,

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati Magazine on the Bengals coming up at four twenty.

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Speaker 4: Hans Schroeder from the NFL is going to be on

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Speaker 4: the show at four thirty five. The league is excited

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Speaker 4: about the Bengals and their TV ratings when they played

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Speaker 4: the Ravens on Thanksgiving night, and Hans will join us

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00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 4: to talk about that and a few other things. Plus

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Speaker 4: Dan Klaskins on Week fourteen for fantasy football owners. We

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00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 4: are excited for that as well. Let's see, I gotta

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Speaker 4: get to a pole question. We'll do that here in

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Speaker 4: justin but By the way, I asked the pole question

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Speaker 4: yesterday late in the show, and I let those poll

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Speaker 4: Which team will win this year's Skyline Chili Crosstown Shootout

725
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 4: and fifty one point two percent of you say Xavier

726
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 4: and forty eight point eight percent of you say Cincinnati.

727
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 4: It's fifty to fifty. I'll go ahead and say it.

728
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 4: I think you c will win the game. I've said

729
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 4: that before. I've been dead wrong. I've said Xavier is

730
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 4: gonna win the game, and I've been dead wrong. I

731
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 4: am certainly aware of UC's history in the Senta Center

732
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 4: twenty four years. Haven't won since Steve Logan senior year.

733
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 4: They haven't won consecutive shootouts. To me, is this is

734
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 4: the more like eye opening streak if you will, that

735
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 4: U see hasn't won consecutive Skyline Chile Crosstown shootout games

736
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 4: since the ninety four, ninety five and ninety five ninety

737
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 4: six seasons, since Danny Fordson scored forty in the Cincinnati Gardens.

738
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 4: That it goes back even further, obviously than the two

739
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 4: thousand and one two thousand and two season. So I'm

740
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 4: aware of the history. I also think, and I agree

741
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 4: with what Chad said, and Rick and I talked about

742
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 4: this yesterday, there is a ceiling I think to Xaviers

743
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 4: just collective talent. Now. I think there's maybe more wins

744
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 4: to be had based on just watching the Big East

745
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 4: in the non conference than we might have been willing

746
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 4: to acknowledge before the season started. But but that team

747
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 4: has improved, like the on court product from what they

748
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 4: looked like, not just against Santa Clara, but against Lemoinne,

749
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 4: which was their second game of the season Marist, like

750
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 4: those first three games versus what they've done since. And

751
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 4: they got kind of plastered late in the game against Iowa,

752
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 4: but did some good things that night, and then since

753
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 4: then they've played well. They've played well enough to drill

754
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 4: West Virginia, made sixteen threes, they played well enough to

755
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 4: come this close to beating Georgia and there were a

756
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 4: handful of times in that game where it felt like

757
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 4: the Bulldogs were about to blow them out. They've they

758
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 4: have coalesced pretty nicely. I don't think you could say

759
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 4: that about the Bearcats. It may occur, it may happen,

760
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 4: they may come together, and maybe it starts tomorrow. It

761
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 4: better start here soon, because as you heard Jad just

762
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 4: mentioned playing at Georgia, which is basically what that game

763
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 4: is gonna be. It's gonna be in Atlanta, so pseudo

764
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 4: neutral site, but not really. That's not gonna be easy.

765
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 4: Playing Clemson in South Carolina is not gonna be easy none.

766
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 4: And then there's Big twelve, Like there's getting a win

767
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 4: over Xavier because it's a rivalry game. There's also you've

768
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 4: already lost two. The next two games are coin flips

769
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 4: at best, and then Big twelve play, Like, you know,

770
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 4: what you don't want to do in a year where

771
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 4: you're gonna be judged by whether or not you make

772
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 4: the tournament. What you don't want to do is go

773
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 4: into Big twelve play with five losses, especially specially Uh

774
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 4: when you look at the top of the Big Twelve

775
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 4: and you look at who they start with in Big

776
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 4: Twelve play, So there's winning the game because it's the

777
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 4: UC Xavier game. Uh, there's winning at the Centa Center

778
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 4: and breaking a streak. There's there's also getting your season

779
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 4: back on track. Oh and by the way, if I

780
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 4: didn't mention it, their first Big twelve game is against Houston.

781
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 4: So you already have two losses. You have two games

782
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 4: against high major competition coming up, neither are at home.

783
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 4: Forget the rivalry part of it. Do you do you

784
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 4: want to get your season back on track? You want

785
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 4: to start stacking wins when you have a league schedule

786
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 4: that it's going to be hard to stack wins in

787
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 4: going the RUNA beezager for what it's worth, and you

788
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 4: may argue nothing. ESPN's Basketball Power Index slightly favors Cincinnati,

789
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 4: giving the Bearheads a fifty one point two percent chance

790
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 4: of winning. Now that's a little independent of things like

791
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 4: history and the emotion and how a team that is

792
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 4: having a hard time coming together is going to handle

793
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 4: that road environment. I've watched better U see teams. I

794
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 4: watched a UC team that got a two seed in

795
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 4: the tournament one year go to the Cinta Center and

796
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 4: come unraveled by the environment. It's an extraordinarily tough place

797
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 4: to play, and it's an extraordinarily tough place to play

798
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 4: for a lot of teams. It's obvious that the environment

799
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 4: on that night in that building is different. But I

800
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 4: do think the Bearcats could, and I think should have

801
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 4: the best player on the floor in Baba Miller, and

802
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 4: I do think collectively they're a little bit more talented.

803
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 4: And look, this isn't Mo the UC fan picking the

804
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 4: Bearcats because he's a UC fan. If you know anything

805
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 4: about me, you know I've probably picked Xavier in this

806
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 4: game more than I've picked Uce, and frankly, that means

807
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 4: I've been right more often than I've been wrong. I

808
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 4: am going to lean on the fact that I think

809
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 4: U see is a little bit more talented, and I

810
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 4: think they have the better player, and I think if

811
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 4: what I saw from UC defensively against Loewell shows up

812
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 4: for a larger stretch of time tomorrow, I think they could.

813
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 4: I think they can get out of there with a victory,

814
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 4: but nobody would be surprised if they can't, and if

815
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 4: they don't. There's two different ways of looking at it.

816
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 4: Like if Xavier loses the game, I don't think anybody's

817
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 4: gonna be like, man, how's that gonna impact their tournament chances?

818
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,959
Speaker 4: Because I don't think anybody views them as a team

819
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 4: that is gonna make the tournament or that has to

820
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 4: make the tournament. And I don't think anybody's gonna use

821
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 4: that game and use it as an indictment against Richard Patino.

822
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 4: I think Richard Patino's body of work so far with

823
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 4: this team has been pretty good. They look like they're

824
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 4: responding to him, and so maybe it's not house money.

825
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 4: A rivalry game is never house money. Oh thin. He

826
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 4: is a Xavier fan alive, who would go it's kind

827
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 4: of a house money. But all right, Uh, we weren't

828
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 4: supposed to win this one. It is your one new coach.

829
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 4: There is a talent issue. You're not gonna win every

830
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 4: single time at the Cintas Center, although there's a part

831
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 4: of me that feels like they may. If you're Wes Miller,

832
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 4: there's your history against Xavier, which is not great in

833
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 4: spite of last year. There's just not a lot of

834
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 4: signature wins to hang your hat on. There's not a

835
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 4: whole lot of equity built up by previous NCAA tournament appearances.

836
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 4: There's growing unease, unrest, however you want to phrase it,

837
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 4: based on losing the Eastern Michigan to a degree, losing

838
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 4: to Louisville. So there's all of that, and then you

839
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 4: just start to look at the season. You know, last year,

840
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 4: you see lost one non conference game late, a clunker

841
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 4: on the road against Villanova. They didn't play great against Xavier,

842
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 4: but they won. They didn't play great against Dayton, but

843
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 4: they played. They won. They beat a Dayton team that

844
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,439
Speaker 4: had played really well in Maui, beat Yukon and Maui.

845
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 4: They had gone on the road and beaten Georgia Tech.

846
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 4: Say what you want about it, but they played a

847
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 4: true road game against NKU and they won that one,

848
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 4: and so you kind of came out of the non

849
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 4: conference they're like, all right, cool, one loss, and then

850
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 4: remember how conference plays started. They lost a cam it's

851
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 4: a state and never really got going. Can you imagine

852
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 4: and you don't want to get too far ahead of

853
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 4: yourself with the Georgia game in the Clemson game, but

854
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 4: can you imagine going into the Big Twelve with as

855
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 4: many as five losses? I don't know that you want

856
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 4: to go into the Big Twelve with three or four

857
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 4: you'll have three minimum if you lose tomorrow. And that's

858
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 4: before we even talk about how they beat some of

859
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 4: those teams in the Big Twelve that they are going

860
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 4: to have to beat. They're gonna have to beat some

861
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Speaker 4: of those teams or at least win some of those games.

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Speaker 4: Even if they beat Xavier, even if they beat Clemson

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Speaker 4: in Georgia, think of the uphill battle though hav in

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Speaker 4: front of them. If they don't, they don't win tomorrow,

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Speaker 4: and if they don't win the next two, which unfortunately

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Speaker 4: gonna pay much attention to people who talk about the

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Speaker 4: game losing its luster. The dynamic of the game has changed.

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Speaker 4: It matters more when both teams are good. It doesn't

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Speaker 4: feel like either team is good. The game is better

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Speaker 4: when it's in February. I think all of us agree

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Speaker 4: with that. But it doesn't mean it's not special. It

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Speaker 4: doesn't mean it's not going to be an awesome atmosphere tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: And it's really huge for the UC Bearcats. It is

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Speaker 4: an enormous game for the UC Bearcats. It's an enormous

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Speaker 4: game for the UC Bearcat basketball team. It is obviously

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Speaker 4: a very big game for the UC basketball coach. Seventeen

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Speaker 4: minutes after four o'clock, your phone calls. I think we

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Speaker 4: it's time for a Kyle Schwarber Red's marriage. We'll get

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Speaker 4: Brian Anderson's calling the shootout this year. He joins us

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Speaker 4: Twenty three after four o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Moeger.

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Speaker 4: We we spend time every Thursday chatting with Robert windrab

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Speaker 4: Redzey weekly Bengals column for Cincinnati Magazine. You can read

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Speaker 4: it right now while we're having this conversation at Cincinnati

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Speaker 4: Magazine dot com. Robert, how are we doing well?

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Speaker 5: I don't want people to have divided attention spans. Oh,

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Speaker 5: let's wait until the commercial break, then you can look

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Speaker 5: at my piece and read it at your leisure.

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Speaker 4: How about just wait until after the show so you

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Speaker 5: And even better scenario.

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Speaker 17: Thanks you for correct Yes.

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Speaker 4: There you go. You know all is right with the world.

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00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 4: Ro Joe Burrow is back, and he reminded after he

917
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Speaker 4: knocked off some russ early in that game, reminded the

918
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Speaker 4: world that he's, you know, pretty good.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just such a transformative figure It really is amazing,

920
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 5: isn't it. I mean, Zach Taylor looks like a genius,

921
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Speaker 5: sal Golden looks confident, even like Brown looks like he's,

922
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Speaker 5: you know, got some idea of what's going on as

923
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Speaker 5: long as Joe Burrow's out there and playing. And you know,

924
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Speaker 5: it might have been a little fluky, but yeah, the

925
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Speaker 5: Vengalos have nine takeaways and ten quarters with Joe Burrow playing,

926
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Speaker 5: and that they gets six turnovers and the other thirty

927
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Speaker 5: eight quarters with the backups in there. I mean, you know,

928
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Speaker 5: maybe there's not a direct A to B line on

929
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Speaker 5: that and it's a little fluky, but I don't think so,

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Speaker 5: and I don't think the Bengals players think so either.

931
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Speaker 5: You could see just the way they rally them. And

932
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Speaker 5: everybody knows this.

933
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Speaker 13: It's nothing new.

934
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Speaker 5: You know, your franchise quarterback obviously makes is the ultimate disinfected, right,

935
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Speaker 5: and he makes everything. When he's gone, the warts appear,

936
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Speaker 5: and when he's out there things are much more rosy.

937
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Speaker 5: So we saw that with Joe. I don't know if

938
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Speaker 5: I was expecting to be quite that obvious in his

939
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Speaker 5: first game back, but you know, the hard cleats or

940
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Speaker 5: whatever it is, he's wearing is obviously has magical powers,

941
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Speaker 5: and it was great for at least one weekend, you know,

942
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Speaker 5: Thursday night anyway, to be reminded of what we've been

943
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Speaker 5: missing over the last whatever it's been two and a

944
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Speaker 5: half months, I mean, and what we've really been robbed

945
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Speaker 5: over these first six years of his career with twenty

946
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Speaker 5: plus starts missed, you know, I mean it's you know,

947
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Speaker 5: that's looking negativity on what should be a bit of

948
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Speaker 5: an optimistic week. But still it made me a little

949
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Speaker 5: wistful seeing the Bengals and Burrow play so well and

950
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Speaker 5: reminded me of what.

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Speaker 10: We've been missing out on with him out.

952
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 5: But at least for now, it's all good.

953
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Speaker 4: How'd you feel at halftime when he had dropped back

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Speaker 4: thirty three times?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was a little surprised by that too. I

956
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Speaker 5: guess it was all that preseason action. Yeah, that was that, right. Yeah,

957
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Speaker 5: it was a lot, no question about it. And you know,

958
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Speaker 5: but it's Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 10: I you just see.

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Speaker 5: Him telling Zach Taylor out of the game. Hey, no restrictions,

961
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Speaker 5: you know, no restrictor plate Let's go call the game

962
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Speaker 5: as we would. That's the matchup they wanted to take

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Speaker 5: advantage of.

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Speaker 13: They thought they, you know, could get the ball moving.

965
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Speaker 5: Better through the air, and that's usually the case with

966
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Speaker 5: Joe out there, even with see Higgins out, so a

967
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Speaker 5: little surprising, and you know, you always worry in the

968
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Speaker 5: back of your mind when he drops back a lot

969
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Speaker 5: like that that maybe it's not the best idea, But

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Speaker 5: he got through the game and we know what he's capable.

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Speaker 13: Of, and it was it worked out.

972
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Speaker 5: So as long as it keeps working out, I'm fine

973
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Speaker 5: with it. Hope they get the more balance attack going

974
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Speaker 5: slowly down.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no question. You wrote about the Bengals blitzing Lamar,

976
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Speaker 4: blitz the Bejesus out of them, first time I've used

977
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Speaker 4: the word but Jesus on this show. So I've wondered this, right,

978
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Speaker 4: especially for a team that like linebacker in particular, you

979
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Speaker 4: got guys who aren't good at coverage, So why don't

980
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 4: you send them in the other direction and just have

981
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Speaker 4: them go after the quarterback? Should they start just pretty

982
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 4: much blitzing everybody?

983
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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I think you see, and you and Al

984
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Speaker 5: Golden are thinking alike in that scenario, whether that's worth Yeah,

985
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 5: they've definitely up their blitzing take and listen. I mean,

986
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Speaker 5: there are a lot of guys and a lot.

987
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Speaker 13: Of offenses you don't blitz.

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Speaker 5: I mean, maybe it's counterintuitive, but Aaron Rodgers is one

989
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 5: of the least blitzed quarterbacks in the league. So is

990
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 5: the attack of by low and why their whole offenses

991
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 5: are geared toward getting the ball out really fast and

992
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 5: throwing the guys who the linebackers and safeties, guys who

993
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 5: normally blitz would ordinarily be covering. So you know, you

994
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 5: think in that scenario you don't want to do it

995
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 5: quite so much. But point is valid in that the

996
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 5: Bengals have to get some pressure from anywhere. They've been

997
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 5: dying for it all year. They're still playing with out

998
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 5: Trey Hendrickson and Shabbar Stewart, and it's just you know,

999
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 5: you're at you're at the point now where you've got

1000
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 5: to find that pressure from anywhere. And you saw on

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Speaker 5: Thursday what that meant to a team when they can

1002
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Speaker 5: actually get heat on the opposed quarterback.

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Speaker 13: They might not get.

1004
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 5: Five turnovers every game by doing it, but I don't

1005
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 5: think there's any question they'll be blissing a lot. Josh

1006
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 5: Allen and everyone else they play on down the line,

1007
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Speaker 5: they get Lamar again. He's the most blitzed quarterback in

1008
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 5: the league. And when he's not one hundred percent, you

1009
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Speaker 5: know the Bengals have done it before. They've gone after

1010
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Speaker 5: a hymn romentlessly, and I think you'll you'll definitely see

1011
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 5: a blitz heavy package for the for the last few

1012
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Speaker 5: games of the season, no question about it.

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Speaker 4: Robert wind trub Is with excuse me, Robert wind trub

1014
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Speaker 4: Is with a Cincinnati magazine dot com. He also contributes

1015
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Speaker 4: to a website FTN Fantasy and this time of year,

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Speaker 4: a lot of folks love to hit refresh on their

1017
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 4: DVOA odds. Right, So the Bengals right now six point

1018
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 4: six percent, which is basically loaded up on the AFC

1019
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 4: North six point five. How are DVOA odds calculated?

1020
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 5: Well, you start with the overall efficiency of the team,

1021
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 5: which is DVOA. Bengals pretty low in that category still

1022
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 5: despite the win on Thursday, and then we play out

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Speaker 5: the season twenty five the remainder of the season in

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Speaker 5: its entirety, twenty five thousand times with the supercomputer in

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Speaker 5: the back room, I think his name is Gene, and uh,

1026
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Speaker 5: you know, you take we take recent events into account.

1027
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 5: Kind of waited a little bit, so the most recent

1028
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 5: games and you know things like Joe uh, Joe Burrow

1029
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 5: coming back are taken into account. And then he take

1030
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Speaker 5: those twenty five thousand scenarios and you get the average

1031
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 5: wins and losses from it. Put it into a spreadsheet

1032
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 5: and see what happens overall in that scenario. As it

1033
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 5: pertains to the Bengals, as you say, only six percent

1034
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 5: of the time, six point six percent of the time

1035
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 5: today you know, managed basically to win out and steal

1036
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 5: the AFC North. And you know that's not that surprising, right,

1037
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 5: I mean it's hard for any NFL team in any

1038
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 5: scenario to win five or six straight games. I mean

1039
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 5: that's not asked. That asking a lot for any team.

1040
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 5: But this proof of concept, you know we did last year,

1041
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 5: seldom make the rundown the stretch, win five straight and

1042
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 5: if not for the Chiefs turtling, do exactly what they

1043
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 5: are trying to do this year, which is, you know,

1044
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 5: turn a depressing three months into an amazing last month

1045
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 5: and come from way back in the pack and do it.

1046
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 5: So you know, the playoff odds would definitely go up

1047
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 5: if they beat Buffalo, and you have to remember, to Raven,

1048
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 5: the Steelers play each other, and one of their odds

1049
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 5: are going to go down, and it's gonna you know,

1050
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 5: as long as they keep winning, those odds will go

1051
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 5: up and up.

1052
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:39,240
Speaker 13: That's all we can really hope.

1053
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 5: For at this time of year.

1054
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 4: I would describe right now a Raven Steelers game as

1055
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 4: a pillow fight. And I don't know that at any

1056
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 4: point I ever envisioned myself saying that about those two

1057
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 4: teams playing against each other.

1058
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's kind of hard to believe.

1059
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 5: Right there's two rock ribbed franchises right now just don't

1060
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 5: have much booms behind anything they're doing. And you know, again,

1061
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 5: especially in Baltimore's case, a lot of that is.

1062
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 9: Tied to the health of the quarterback.

1063
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 5: Just like we were talking about with the Bengals, Lamar

1064
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 5: Jackson not himself, and they're a very mortal team and

1065
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 5: all the things that you think about as being strengths

1066
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 5: are not really the case. And it all ties back

1067
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 5: into the fact that their quarterback is injured. And with Pittsburgh,

1068
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 5: you know, I think to coin a phrase or was

1069
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 5: it Dennis Green who said they are who we thought

1070
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 5: they were? You know, a team coming down the stretch

1071
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 5: with an ancient quarterback, not much of an offensive plan.

1072
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 5: You know, guy spending a lot of money on the

1073
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 5: defense that really isn't that capable. And you know they're

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Speaker 5: a team that when you have fire, your coach chance.

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Speaker 5: I mean, as much as everybody complains about Zach Taylor,

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Speaker 5: I don't recall any fires Zach Taylor chance that they

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Speaker 5: of course stadium recently, so that's going on in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 5: so you can tell right now they're in the toilet.

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Speaker 5: But you know they play each other. As I mentioned

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Speaker 5: on Sunday, one of those fan bases is going to

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Speaker 5: feel a lot better about themselves come Monday morning.

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Speaker 13: And you know it's the NFL.

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Speaker 5: Things turn on a dime. So I wouldn't discount either

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Speaker 5: one of those teams at the moment. But it's ironic

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Speaker 5: that's here we are, and.

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Speaker 13: It's the Bengals.

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Speaker 5: Everybody feels the best about before coming from as four

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Speaker 5: and eight hole. Maybe it's not impossible given the fact

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Speaker 5: that the Ravens and Steelers are really spinning their wheels.

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Speaker 13: At the moment.

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Speaker 4: Awesome stuff. As always, we will bother you next week,

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Speaker 4: thanks so much.

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Speaker 5: I can't wait it's never bothered. Thanks mam.

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Speaker 4: That's our guy. Robert Wintraub, Cincinnati Magazine dot com. Go

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Speaker 4: read his Bengals column. It's available right now. Hans Schroeder

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Speaker 4: from the NFL is going to join us next.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: One of the cool things about Thursday Night. Yes, the

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Speaker 4: Bengals win, but the Bengals won in front of a

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Speaker 4: massive audience. That game Baltimore hosting Cincinnati. Thanksgiving Night average

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Speaker 4: twenty eight point four million viewers. The Thanksgiving triple ahead

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Speaker 4: of the NFL had was massive. Most watched Thanksgiving Day

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Speaker 4: average on record forty four point seven million average viewers

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Speaker 4: for the three games, and huge matchups too, obviously Green Bay, Detroit, Casey,

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Speaker 4: Dallas and the most important game of course, Cincinnati on

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Speaker 4: the road against Baltimore. Here to talk about that for

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Speaker 4: a few minutes is a Cincinnati native. He is the

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Speaker 4: NFL EVP of Media Distribution, Hans Schroeder. I believe your

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Speaker 4: second time on the show, Hans. Thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 4: How are you.

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Speaker 13: Well? Great to talk to you. I think yeah.

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Speaker 15: I think we connected back in twenty two on that

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Speaker 15: on super Bowl week and one to the Super Bowl

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Speaker 15: for the Bengals. So it's been a bit, but it's

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Speaker 15: great to connect.

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Speaker 13: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you doing this. I think you kind of

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Speaker 4: had the perfect storm on Thanksgiving Night, right. It's it's

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Speaker 4: a divisional rivalry, it's a lot of familiarity, it's a

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Speaker 4: former a two time MVP and Lamar Jackson. I also

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Speaker 4: think like Joe Burrow brings eyeballs. Joe Burrow's return, though,

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Speaker 4: is a little bit different. I think that helped.

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Speaker 15: Look it all helped, you know, coach Coach Madden would

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Speaker 15: always say about Thanksgiving. You know, it's about two great

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Speaker 15: things coming together, which is football and family and probably

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Speaker 15: add food into that one coach.

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Speaker 13: And so you know, you've seen that. We've we've seen.

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Speaker 15: Our viewership grow now four years in a row on

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Speaker 15: Thanksgiving and it's really just becoming this unique high point

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Speaker 15: of the season for our fans. And and certainly as

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Speaker 15: we looked to this year, you know, we thought there

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Speaker 15: was an opportunity to even put some of our bigger

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Speaker 15: matchups into and onto Thanksgiving and and continue that growth.

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Speaker 15: And by the way, I should, I should hit it

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Speaker 15: head on what we I know that the Cincinnati fans

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01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 15: feel like they're.

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Speaker 13: In Baltimore a lot on the road in primetime.

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Speaker 15: I could tell everybody there. We looked really long and

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Speaker 15: hard and deep into the scheduling process. We actually saw

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Speaker 15: a lot a lot of times where Baltimore was in

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Speaker 15: Cincinnati on primetime. But it's just in the final the

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Speaker 15: final schedule that we sort of liked the most about.

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Speaker 13: Uh, it ended up the other way.

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Speaker 15: But look, that was the culmination with with what is

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Speaker 15: now one of the best divisional rivalries the last couple

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Speaker 15: of years is from the Bengals to get the Ravens together.

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Speaker 15: We thought a great way to end up after you know,

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Speaker 15: Detroit in Green Bay and jac and Dallas, and a

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Speaker 15: great way to end Thanksgiving in a really special way.

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Speaker 13: And then we had Joe's return, as you said, which

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Speaker 13: all sort of made it even that much greater.

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Speaker 4: This might be a stupid question, but obviously on Thanksgiving

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Speaker 4: you're going to have Detroit in Dallas. You now have

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Speaker 4: had the primetime game for years. The Bengals played in

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Speaker 4: one way back in twenty ten, so you have four

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Speaker 4: different teams minus obviously Detroit and Dallas. Do do teams

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Speaker 4: request they ask to play on Thanksgiving? Because Burrow talked

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Speaker 4: about it after the game about you know how cool

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Speaker 4: it would be to play Thanksgiving night. Is this something

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Speaker 4: that teams ask if they could be a part of.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, Look, I think teams love playing in national windows

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Speaker 15: and whether that's four twenty five on Sunday or prime

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Speaker 15: time and then Thanksgiving sort of.

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Speaker 10: Reaching another level.

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Speaker 15: Obviously, it's a Thursday, so it's a shorter week, and

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Speaker 15: we have some considerations, you know, obviously with how we

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Speaker 15: play teams on Thursdays and shorter weeks. I think teams

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Speaker 15: love playing on home's s at home on Thursday, especially

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Speaker 15: those short weeks. But I think the stage and the

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Speaker 15: profile and the audience now is making it a little

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Speaker 15: bit different. But it's really teamed to team, you know,

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Speaker 15: and player to player. I think how they think about it.

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Speaker 15: But you know, when you start seeing these audiences number

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Speaker 15: that number in Dallas, rival I think it's rivaled last

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Speaker 15: year's AFC Championship game. It's our fourth highest view game

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Speaker 15: outside of a Super Bowl. You know, it's it's reaching

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Speaker 15: levels that I think players love to play on.

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Speaker 13: Big stages, and there's no bigger stage for us in

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Speaker 13: the regular season now than Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 4: Chiefs Cowboys averaged on CBS fifty seven point two million viewers.

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Speaker 4: So you know who's going to play each other, right,

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Speaker 4: it's a matter of sliding the games. Did it take

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Speaker 4: you less than five seconds to put the Chiefs on

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Speaker 4: Thanksgiving afternoon?

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Speaker 13: It's a great question.

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Speaker 15: It's actually, you know, when we've looked at it and

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Speaker 15: sort of looked over the past.

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Speaker 13: Few years and we try to look at what our

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Speaker 13: fans are telling us, and you know, when when more

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Speaker 13: and more people are.

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Speaker 15: Tuning in on Thanksgiving and it we hit big numbers

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Speaker 15: fortunate on Sunday afternoon or Sunday night, but what we

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Speaker 15: really see is a few windows separating themselves and kick

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Speaker 15: offs one of them and Thanksgiving to another one. And

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Speaker 15: so you know, we put some really good games on

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Speaker 15: those days, but we thought there was an opportunity to

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Speaker 15: put even some of our bigger matchups. You know, this

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Speaker 15: year had a great We have a great schedule and

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Speaker 15: a great set of games every year, but there were

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Speaker 15: some fun ones with the AFC North playing the NFC

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Speaker 15: North and NFC East, you know playing the NFC North.

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Speaker 13: We just had a lot of.

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Speaker 15: Really fun, interesting, big matchups and it really gave us

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Speaker 15: an opportunity to put some of our bigger matchups on

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Speaker 15: Thanksgiving and see how.

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Speaker 13: High up up could be. And it ended up being

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Speaker 13: really high and.

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Speaker 15: Frilled with it and hopefully the winner is ultimately our

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Speaker 15: fans and our partners.

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Speaker 13: When you see those type.

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Speaker 4: Results you mentioned, you know, the Bengals Ravens thing in

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Speaker 4: primetime on a Thursday, and like I won't lie, we've

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Speaker 4: griped about it here. They have to go there in

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Speaker 4: a short week every year. This year they won and

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Speaker 4: look both the two games the Ravens and Bengals played

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Speaker 4: last year, we're both awesome. One was in prime time.

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Speaker 4: Obviously you want those games in big windows. But is

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Speaker 4: there you know, people go all conspiracy when they see

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Speaker 4: the schedule come out. What is the biggest misconception that

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Speaker 4: fans have about how either the schedule comes out when

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Speaker 4: it comes out in April or May, or how it

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Speaker 4: unfolds once you start getting into two flex scheduling, especially

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Speaker 4: this time of year.

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Speaker 15: Okay, I think the biggest the biggest misconception that would

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Speaker 15: be there's any conspiracy because we spent so much time

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Speaker 15: and effort. It is a five month marathon of trying

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Speaker 15: to figure out how we make thirty two teams happy,

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Speaker 15: all our media partners happy, you know, all our you know,

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Speaker 15: the travel, the competitive aspect. Now with more international games,

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Speaker 15: there's so many different things and sort of making sure

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Speaker 15: we're delivering for our fans that we try to look

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Speaker 15: through all that and try to figure out how all

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Speaker 15: those pieces of the puzzle for every one of the

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Speaker 15: two hundred and seventy two games we have to schedule,

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Speaker 15: how do we make it the best possible schedule that

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Speaker 15: we can. And look, we do look at trends, We

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Speaker 15: look at things. We went into this year. We were

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Speaker 15: pretty conscious of Cincinnati as an example, being on the

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Speaker 15: road a lot in recent years, particularly in prime time,

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Speaker 15: and you know that that was something we wanted to

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Speaker 15: make sure we were equitable. Your friend Paul Dayaners and

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Speaker 15: Jay have a lot of stats about being on the

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Speaker 15: road and the division on Thursday nights and otherwise, you know,

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Speaker 15: like even you know, we try to keep track of

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Speaker 15: all those data points and so you know, certainly it

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Speaker 15: was an important you saw that come to life with

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Speaker 15: the Pittsburgh game and being in Cincinnati. So look, we

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Speaker 15: look at all that. You know, it's an impossible job

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01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 15: to make, you know, to talk fully solved for everything

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Speaker 15: in a maximum way that we could, but we try

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Speaker 15: to get.

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Speaker 13: As close as we can.

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Speaker 15: And I think this year we're up six percent going

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Speaker 15: into Thanksgiving weekend. That should be the biggest you know,

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Speaker 15: you're weekend in our history as a league. So that

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Speaker 15: number is even going to go up. So I think

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Speaker 15: we're doing something right, but we're always trying to be smarter,

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Speaker 15: always trying to learn, always trying to figure out how we.

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Speaker 13: Can get better.

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Speaker 15: And and again I would just stress you know, we

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Speaker 15: really try to think about all the different considerations and

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Speaker 15: really be as fair and equitable as we can be.

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Speaker 4: All Right, I root for myself. I want the Black

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Speaker 4: Friday game? Can I get that next year?

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Speaker 10: Look?

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Speaker 15: I tell you, like another thing Coach Madden would say

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Speaker 15: with you know and Howard Katz who ran the scheduling

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Speaker 15: process before me for many years. You know, it's say

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Speaker 15: it sounds like a football game, and you know that

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Speaker 15: Bears Eagles sounds like a football on Black Friday.

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Speaker 13: But you know Bengals Steelers and Bengals Ravens.

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Speaker 15: There's a lot of there's a lot of Bengals games

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Speaker 15: in Ohio and being from there and knowing how special

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Speaker 15: football is and intertwined and by the way, and seeing

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Speaker 15: that game, what was it a couple of Fridays ago?

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Speaker 9: Was it?

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Speaker 13: Was it ex An Elder that was playing and.

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Speaker 15: In the stadium and plus thousand people.

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Speaker 4: There and in bad weather.

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Speaker 13: We know what a and bad weather, we know what

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Speaker 15: You know, there is in in in what Cincinnati and

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Speaker 15: the state of Ohio is. So look, we like one

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Speaker 15: of the things we like about adding Thanksgiving Night and

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Speaker 15: Black Friday.

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Speaker 13: Is that adding the ability.

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Speaker 15: For for more teams over Thanksgiving weekend to play on

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Speaker 15: that big stage.

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Speaker 13: So again, I think we'll look at it.

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Speaker 15: We'll look at it continuing to build Black Friday and

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Speaker 15: and certainly you know Ohio and and Cincinnati would be

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Speaker 15: a great home for a Black Friday game one day.

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Speaker 4: Well, when you're when you're jotting down next year, just

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Speaker 4: keep me in the back of your mind, because I

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Speaker 4: at home game. I want to I want to go

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Speaker 4: to pay Corps on on Black Friday. That'd be a

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Speaker 4: lot of fun. Congrats on an awesome Thanksgiving. You have

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Speaker 4: like such a fascinating job. I could talk to you

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Speaker 4: for hours. So maybe one day I'll ask you to

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Speaker 4: do that. But I can't thank you enough and we'll

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Speaker 4: catch up down the road. Hans, thanks so much, well,

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Speaker 4: thank you.

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Speaker 15: I got to get at some point I got to

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Speaker 15: hear about how you did a show on a concussion.

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Speaker 15: I think I heard that in a podcast recently, And

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Speaker 15: I got to give a shout out to a good

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Speaker 15: friend of mine. Louis from Lachlan back in Cincinnati. So anyways,

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Speaker 15: I'm happy to join any time. We'd love to talk

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Speaker 15: to you, and you know, take care and hope it.

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Speaker 15: You know, we've got a big one, i know for

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Speaker 15: the Bengals and Bill yeah on Sunday, so you know,

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Speaker 15: hopefully that's you know, that's an exciting game as well.

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Speaker 15: So reach out anytime, great to connect you.

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Speaker 4: Got it, Hans, We definitely will, Thanks so much, thank you.

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Speaker 4: That's Hans Schroeder, NFL EVP Media Distribution usquet. Dude has

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Speaker 4: just an awesome job and at least the acknowledges we're

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Speaker 4: tired of the Bengals having to go to Baltimore in

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Speaker 4: a short week.

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Speaker 17: O?

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Speaker 18: Happy Thursday to you, brother.

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Speaker 4: Happy final week of the regular season to you and

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Speaker 4: others who are not playing out the string unlike myself,

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Speaker 4: which is exactly what I'm doing. But nonetheless, that doesn't

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Speaker 4: mean that we don't have our friends who are headed

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Speaker 4: to the postseason in mind.

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Speaker 18: Yes, yes, and you know what psa announcement right there

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Speaker 18: if you are out of it, but the league's still

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Speaker 18: playing regular season games this week. Still set your lineup? Yeah,

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Speaker 18: people need those eleven seeds to pull off the upsets,

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Speaker 18: perhaps for their playoff chances, but this is definitely the

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Speaker 18: time to start playing for some playoff success and I

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Speaker 18: think it starts with how you build your best bets

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Speaker 18: right by weeks. They'll be over after this week. Only

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Speaker 18: focus on winning right now, not stashing early in the season.

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Speaker 18: You want to stats those players late, but now it's

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Speaker 18: who can help me win this week. Maybe a little

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Speaker 18: bit as you look ahead and you want to back

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Speaker 18: up your studs, get those backup running backs for your

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Speaker 18: starting running backs. And definitely want to be smart with

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Speaker 18: dropping players too, because at this time of year, you

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Speaker 18: don't want to just drop somebody that's going to become

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Speaker 18: really valuable for other teams, especially playoff teams. And when

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Speaker 18: you get into that, especially if you're starting to know

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Speaker 18: who your opponents are, sometimes you can play keep away.

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Speaker 18: If I know your quarterback sucks and I've got some

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Speaker 18: spots on my bench, I could try to beat you there,

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Speaker 18: so you don't end up getting the quarterback that could

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Speaker 18: beat me. And then, obviously the two most important factors

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Speaker 18: here is it's December.

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Speaker 13: Hey, look outside.

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Speaker 18: You need to watch the weather because it tends to

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Speaker 18: play a factor here. And the final and most important

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Speaker 18: piece of advice, stick to the process. If you got

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Speaker 18: to the playoffs, if we're doing something right, don't go

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Speaker 18: change in the way you did it because you start

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Speaker 18: overthinking the decision.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about injuries for Week four team, beginning with

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Speaker 4: tonight's tilt between Detroit and Dallas.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: Man, from a fantasy standpoint, what a frenzy we could

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Speaker 18: have here for us tonight, But you probably won't have

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Speaker 18: one of the top fantasy producers in the contest. That

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Speaker 18: does appear likely that the Monros Saint Brown will not

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Speaker 18: play this week with an ankle and outside chance here,

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Speaker 18: I'm not very optimistic. I would have a backup plan, certainly,

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Speaker 18: a situation to pay attention to as we are closer

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Speaker 18: to the inactives here at ninety minutes for kickoff. Elsewhere,

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Speaker 18: receiver Drake London not looking like good news there, and

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Speaker 18: they're surprised if Falcon's had using to play for so

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Speaker 18: why would he fa He hasn't practiced yet this week.

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Speaker 18: I guess he still could tomorrow, but I doubt it.

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Speaker 18: Looking better for t Higgins obviously a full participant today,

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Speaker 18: still in concussion protocol. Clearly we'll get final word on

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Speaker 18: this one before kickoff. If he goes. He's locked into

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Speaker 18: here line up there as a wide receiver too, and

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Speaker 18: Romagne was locked in her lineup as a wide receiver

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Speaker 18: too earlier in the season, but struggled with late moo

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Speaker 18: and now hasn't practiced in two straight days with the

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Speaker 18: foot issue. He's on the wrong side of questionable for

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Speaker 18: Week fourteen, We've got the quarterback injuries to talk about.

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Speaker 18: Justin Herbert leaving the list here. Broke his left finger

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Speaker 18: on his left hand last week, finished the game, had

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Speaker 18: surgery on Monday. He's practicing on the side today. It

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Speaker 18: looks like he's gonna play, but we're talking about taking

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Speaker 18: him near the goalwide, letting Trey Lance come in. I

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Speaker 18: mean his ceiling is severely taken down with this injury

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Speaker 18: and the fact he's playing on Monday night. I can

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Speaker 18: find better things here for Week fourteen. Lamar Jackson didn't

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Speaker 18: practice today.

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Speaker 13: That's a trend.

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Speaker 18: Guess what isn't been practicing ely edations. He's come back

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Speaker 18: and guess what he hasn't also been very fantasy worthy

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Speaker 18: no touchdowns, three picks over the last couple of games,

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Speaker 18: and even if he goes this week, he's a back

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Speaker 18: end and risky QB one. Jayson Daniels a pool participant

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Speaker 18: today in practice, there's nothing lots to play for in Washington,

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Speaker 18: but the fact that guys a pool participant leaves meet

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Speaker 18: cautiously off the mester kill return this week. Aaron Jones

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Speaker 18: also practice today, so he's trending in the right direction.

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Speaker 18: I don't think Alvin Kamara is going to play the

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Speaker 18: rest of the season.

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Speaker 10: We'll see definitely how.

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Speaker 18: Week four team at that knee issue with the Saints,

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Speaker 18: Tyro and Tracy should play with the hip and Dalton

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Speaker 18: Schultz in a matchup versus the Bengals. This is very

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Speaker 18: key here for fantasy managers because he's trending towards a

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Speaker 18: potential return in the hamsterring knee issue, and the Bengals

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Speaker 18: are on an historic pace for fantasy points allowed, the

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Speaker 18: tight ends giving up four more fantasy points in the

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Speaker 18: position than the second worst team in the league. So

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Speaker 18: if Dalton Schultz is in there, he's probably in your line.

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Speaker 4: Dan Klaskins, host of Fantastics Insider Football Serious XEM Fantasy,

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Speaker 4: Give me your Week fourteen studs, duds and sleepers.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, let's get right back to that game tonight, man,

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Speaker 18: and I mean ce d Lamb and George Pickens to

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Speaker 18: throw it to and a banged up Detroit secondary. I

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Speaker 18: mean Dak Prescott might be I got a number two

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Speaker 18: on the list of QB, but no shock or if

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Speaker 18: he puts up more Fantasy points and any other player this week. No,

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Speaker 18: he is certainly top of my stud list here as

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Speaker 18: his Bucky Irving just got back to the next did

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Speaker 18: the Bucks running back last week after mission about a

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Speaker 18: month with an injury. I expect a bigger workload this time.

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Speaker 18: The Buck's a pretty heavy favorite here against the Saints

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Speaker 18: defense would have been very friendly to running backs. Bucky

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Speaker 18: Irving checking in at number seven on my board right

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Speaker 18: now in this week's ranks. On the Dutch side of it,

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Speaker 18: I mean David Montgomery, I mean he's very touchdown dependent.

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Speaker 18: Maybe he gets a little bit of garbage time here,

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Speaker 18: but with Dallas and the game flow, I mean, it's

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Speaker 18: just getting really hard to trust him. He's actually outside

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Speaker 18: my top thirty. Dk Metcalf, another guy has been mostly

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Speaker 18: a bus here. Obviously this is a big game in

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Speaker 18: the AFC North, but he's gone four games in a

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Speaker 18: row without a receiving touchdown. He has fewer than fifty

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Speaker 18: receiving yards in each game over that span. Dk Metcalff

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Speaker 18: really a boring fantasy option and then finally some sleepers

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Speaker 18: Donnie and Mitchell there. But the Jets has emerged as

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Speaker 18: the go to guy and the youngster is in the

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Speaker 18: wide receiver three range first Miami and Harold Bannon Jr.

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Speaker 18: Cracking my top ten at tight end. The over under

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Speaker 18: on this game continues to drop. It's down to like

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Speaker 18: thirty three points. I'm not even sure if you'll get there,

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Speaker 18: but Bannon should be involved in the passing game enough

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Speaker 18: to make him a viable option if you needed that

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Speaker 18: tight end.

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Speaker 4: Awesome. As always, we appreciate it. Enjoyed the games this weekend, Dan,

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Speaker 4: thanks so much.

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Speaker 4: Make sure you follow Dan on Twitter at Dan Klaskins

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01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:30,719
Speaker 4: and check out Fantastics Insider Football on Sirius XM Fantasy.

1504
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Speaker 4: Brian Anderson from DNT is calling the shootout. He joins us. Next,

1505
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 4: the Bengals are back at pay Course, cutting soon.

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Speaker 19: No one covers the Bengals like ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 19: Sports Station.

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Speaker 4: All right, thank you, it's five oh four. This is

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Speaker 4: ESPN fifteen thirty, Moleger, Thank you so much for listening.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully you're having an awesome Thursday. We are twenty six

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01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 4: and a half hours away from tip off tomorrow night

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01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 4: at the Centas Center, the Skyline Chile Crosstown Shootout. The

1513
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:05,440
Speaker 4: game is on TNT. This year, TNT's college basketball coverage

1514
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:09,679
Speaker 4: is awesome. I said this like two and a half

1515
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 4: weeks ago. TNT had dateon net Marquette, which was a

1516
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 4: great game Flyers won, and I remember the next day

1517
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 4: we talked about how like there was a bigness to

1518
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 4: that game because of the game presentation. TNT does it

1519
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 4: first class. They treat college basketball well and so the

1520
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 4: game is in good hands tomorrow. There's also a great

1521
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 4: a announcing crew Brian Anderson, Robbie Hummel, and Lauren Jamara.

1522
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 4: Brian Anderson is no stranger to Cincinnati. Years calling Milwaukee Brewers' games.

1523
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 4: He called Roy Halliday throwing a no hitter against the

1524
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,719
Speaker 4: Reds in twenty ten, which I've gone back and watched,

1525
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 4: and that doesn't make me very happy. But he's got

1526
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 4: the game tomorrow on TNT and very kind enough to

1527
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 4: give us a few minutes this afternoon. Brian, It's awesome

1528
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 4: to have you. How are you.

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01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 14: Doing, great man. Good to be back in Cincinnati. My

1530
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 14: second trip here this week. So I can't remember ever

1531
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 14: being in Cincinnati in the winter time until this year.

1532
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 10: Now that we have college basketball. So it's all good.

1533
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 4: It's all good.

1534
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 10: For trees are up, it's all it's all good.

1535
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:12,759
Speaker 4: Well, you've called the match, You've called the French Open, Golf,

1536
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 4: the NFL, the NCAA Tournament, the NBA, the Tons of

1537
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 4: League Championship Series. This is the Pinnacle, Brian, the Skyline,

1538
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 4: Chili Crosstown Shootouts and congratulations.

1539
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm in man.

1540
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 14: I love everything I do and I can't wait for this.

1541
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 14: We've been on a little text thread.

1542
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 10: You know. We got a little appetizer with Xavier on

1543
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 10: Monday night.

1544
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 14: We were coming off obviously Thanksgiving, but we did a

1545
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:38,799
Speaker 14: tournament Thanksgiving week in Vegas, so we were all working

1546
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 14: quite a bit. We had multiple crews there. We did

1547
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 14: multiple games a day. Michigan won that players their a tournament, so.

1548
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 10: We were talking about this game. Then.

1549
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 14: For me, it's a little underrated, you know, nationally, I've

1550
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 14: always loved this game. I've had Cincinnati and Xavier at

1551
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 14: different times throughout my career.

1552
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 10: In March madn even.

1553
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 14: In the first four they didn't play each other, but

1554
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 14: they were there at the same time in Dayton back

1555
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 14: what I used to call the first four, and you know,

1556
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:12,600
Speaker 14: it's just for me, it's a great game, it's a

1557
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 14: great moment, it's a great scene, and no matter what

1558
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 14: arena you're in.

1559
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 10: So I think we'll do it justice.

1560
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 14: We've got our you know, we had a set day

1561
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 14: to day, our directors in town, same crew that's been

1562
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 14: doing the NBA. They kind of left us at the altar.

1563
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 14: So we didn't know what to do with our money

1564
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 14: and our resources. So we put it into college basketball.

1565
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 14: And so I appreciate you saying that about our coverage.

1566
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 14: We take it seriously and we're basically running the same show.

1567
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 10: That we ran in the NBA. We'll just bring it

1568
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:46,759
Speaker 10: to the college level.

1569
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 14: And the Big Ten and the Big East have been

1570
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 14: the beneficiarias of that. So we're looking forward to it. Man,

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01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,680
Speaker 14: I can't wait to get out there tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Having Richard Patino's team on Monday Night. Give me some

1573
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 4: impressions of of the Musketeers from watching them up close.

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Speaker 10: That's a tough read Monday. I mean.

1575
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:08,799
Speaker 14: San Francis is a team that did make the NCAA

1576
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 14: Tournament last year, but they're going Division three next season.

1577
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 14: They're you know, they've got players, but and they may

1578
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 14: have a chance to make a run on the NC

1579
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 14: but they're they're not in the class of Xavier, and

1580
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 14: there's always a little bit of a letdown energy wise,

1581
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 14: even though coaches despise that he was killing his players

1582
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 14: all day before the shoot around because he was just

1583
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 14: trying to create a little edge with these guys. And

1584
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 14: you know, I thought they played well. They did what

1585
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 14: they had to do, they played hard enough.

1586
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 10: I do like how he's playing. I mean, they feel like.

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01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 14: I don't mean this in a bad way, don't take

1588
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:47,719
Speaker 14: it that way, but they feel like a very strong

1589
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 14: mid major style of play, meaning they spread it out.

1590
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 14: They're a little undersized, but they can all shoot. They

1591
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 14: can switch their bench is plays a little differently than

1592
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 14: their starters, which is interesting. I think that's a good curveball.

1593
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 14: I actually like that. Grant Hill and I talked about

1594
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 14: that on Monday. But you know, they're a different kind

1595
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 14: of team when they roll in their bench players, and

1596
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 14: so I think that can actually work. And if they

1597
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 14: make threes, you're not always gonna make threes, so they're

1598
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 14: gonna suffer some brutal losses. You've already kind of felt

1599
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 14: that once this year with Santa Clara. But you're gonna

1600
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 14: have a little bit of that because you relying upon

1601
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 14: the three point shooting, But that also means you got

1602
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 14: to punch your chance to pretty much beat anyone on

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01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 14: any night in the Big East especially, And so I

1604
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 14: like that about their team. They've got some older guys,

1605
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 14: you know, the two Serbian guys that came from New Mexico.

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Speaker 10: I call them the Leech and Veat show.

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01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:52,679
Speaker 14: They know the system, they know Patino well, they came

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01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:54,680
Speaker 14: with him. That serves him well, I think with a

1609
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 14: bunch of new players, and so yeah, I think they're

1610
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 14: gonna punch above their weight in the Big East this year.

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01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 4: You're folding in Brian Anderson from tnt IS with this

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01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 4: play by play the Skyline Chili Crossdown shootout tomorrow night.

1613
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 4: You're folding in a national audience for a local game, right,

1614
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 4: two schools within three and a half miles of each other.

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01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 4: And so there's always storytelling. Is it more difficult to

1616
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 4: engage in storytelling in this era college basketball when you

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01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 4: have teams, you know, basically turning over entire rosters from

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01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 4: one year to the next.

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01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 14: No, I think it actually exposes it more too, because

1620
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 14: even though the rosters turnover, and I mean We're so

1621
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 14: used to this in the NBA. And obviously you think

1622
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 14: about great rivalries in the NBA, and you know playoff

1623
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 14: series that I've done recently, Pacers and Knicks. All those

1624
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 14: players they don't remember anything from Pacers and Knicks back

1625
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 14: in the day. But it doesn't mean the rivalry it

1626
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 14: still is not great. And that's a chance for us

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01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 14: to do some storytelling. And do you know we have

1628
01:23:56,640 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 14: smaller windows obviously in basketball in the college game, maybe

1629
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 14: coming out from break, we don't want to you know,

1630
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 14: stop the game and slow it down. But also it

1631
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 14: gives us a chance to they're the combatants. It gives

1632
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 14: us a chance to recognize and honor what this rivalry is,

1633
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 14: the history behind it, some of the great players that

1634
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 14: have passed through it through the years. And then you know,

1635
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 14: we'll we'll shine a pretty bright spotlight on it. We

1636
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 14: got a full pre and postgame studio show. There will

1637
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 14: be you know, there'll be a lot of social media traffic.

1638
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 14: That's one thing, you know, other than the games themselves

1639
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 14: on the televised the linear television side. It's also streaming

1640
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 14: on HBO Max by the way, but you know, our

1641
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:41,679
Speaker 14: social teams, we get after it. You know, I don't

1642
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 14: know any of them. They're somewhere in New York or Atlanta,

1643
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 14: but they just you'll see, like I mean, it's it'll

1644
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 14: be our timelines will be flooded TNT Sports and TNT

1645
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 14: Sports PR and you know all of that's available to

1646
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 14: the school. So that's one thing we carried over our

1647
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 14: sensibilities from doing the NBA and the MLB postseason.

1648
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 10: You know, we're we're pretty good at that and I

1649
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 10: think we do a good job.

1650
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 14: So it doesn't just exist on a linear channel that

1651
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 14: what you're asking, Like the storytelling part, that can all

1652
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 14: exist in a lot of different ways, a lot of

1653
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 14: social a lot of clips, you know, YouTube's all of that.

1654
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 14: So and you know, we attack all of that and

1655
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:23,600
Speaker 14: the kind of the same way that we attack the

1656
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:25,800
Speaker 14: linear side when we're presenting the game.

1657
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 4: I asked about Xavier because you've had them, you're prepping

1658
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 4: for Cincinnati and you'll have them for the first time

1659
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 4: tomorrow night. What have you come to learn about the Bearcats?

1660
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 14: Yeah, I feel you know, they're very similar. They're in

1661
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 14: a much tougher league. So the Big East is down generally.

1662
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 14: I think it's safe to say at this point, it's

1663
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 14: pretty top heavy with Yukon, maybe Saint John. Saint John's

1664
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 14: is a little sketch right now. So Big East is

1665
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 14: down Xavier pick preseason eight. That's that's probably going to

1666
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 14: punch higher than that. I think Cincinnati is in a

1667
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 14: brutal conference. I mean, the Big twelve is probably as

1668
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 14: good as against. I had a bunch of those teams

1669
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 14: that players there in Vegas, So I say it this way,

1670
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:12,599
Speaker 14: they're gonna have more than enough chances to rack up

1671
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 14: quad one wins. Also means they've got a chance to

1672
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 14: rack up a ton of losses. And you don't want

1673
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 14: to see what happened to Cincinnati last year happened this

1674
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:27,680
Speaker 14: year where they were riding high, they got to fourteenth

1675
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 14: in the rankings. They were they're pushing it, they're in

1676
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 14: a great spot, and then they go what seven and

1677
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 14: thirteen in conference play and they miss out. I think

1678
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 14: it's a pivotal year, I really do. I mean, I

1679
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:44,480
Speaker 14: think Wets is a great coach. I think he's had

1680
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 14: a tough draw here in the last few years as

1681
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 14: the portal era has turned over in the nil era,

1682
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 14: that's a that's you know, a fairly new thing for

1683
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 14: these guys, they've had to navigate that.

1684
01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 10: But I do like their team. I think they have

1685
01:26:58,880 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 10: a lot of.

1686
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 14: Guys that our elite level players, and you know, I

1687
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 14: just don't I think they're middle.

1688
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:08,720
Speaker 10: Of the pack in the Big twelve if it's a

1689
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 10: good year, But.

1690
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 14: That doesn't mean that can't get him into the NCAA tournament.

1691
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 10: So I think the.

1692
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 14: Goal there is to grab as many quad one wins

1693
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 14: as you can. You know that they have veteran they

1694
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 14: have a veteran point guard and a young point guard.

1695
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 14: But mc kerr chrisa who I've covered forever. I mean,

1696
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 14: I feel like i've sixty year in college. I remember

1697
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 14: when he was a freshman in Arizona and he was

1698
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:34,600
Speaker 14: talking trash, and I mean we had him in the

1699
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 14: NCAA tournament, my crew did me and I think it

1700
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 14: was Chris Weber back then, even pre was that pre

1701
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 14: pandemic must have been anyway, So that really play pays

1702
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:48,799
Speaker 14: off plays well when you have kind of a veteran

1703
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 14: guy who's been through it knows that he's not going

1704
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 14: to be alarmed by tomorrow's environment or any other Big

1705
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 14: twelve environment though, So the kind of environment these guys

1706
01:27:57,520 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 14: are going to face tomorrow and Xavier Centa Center is

1707
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 14: it's gonna be very similar, maybe even more so many

1708
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 14: times throughout the years. So I think that'll probably serve

1709
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 14: them well. Tomorrow's game will, but Boba Miller being back

1710
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:14,720
Speaker 14: is important. I think they you know, they're gonna need

1711
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 14: a few more layers. They're a good defensive team, but

1712
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 14: they're gonna need a few more layers of offense. So

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Speaker 14: that's where you're hoping guys like a Buyer can keep trending.

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Speaker 10: I like him a lot.

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Speaker 14: Keyschan Tillery might be a little bit of a key guy.

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Speaker 14: You know, he only played four minutes last game, felt

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Speaker 14: like he kind of got bench or he got relegated

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Speaker 14: out of the rotation. Curious to see what that looks.

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Speaker 10: Like coming back. And then.

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Speaker 14: The biggest news is the Gigsel James story, which you know,

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Speaker 14: we were here Monday and the chatter about that, so

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Speaker 14: I have no info on that. I just it just

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Speaker 14: felt odd to me that a press conference went down

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Speaker 14: after a game Monday, and then there was an answer

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Speaker 14: a question about Gigsel James and a very thorough thoughtful

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Speaker 14: answer that he's family, he's in the enrolled, we love him.

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Speaker 14: And then the next today he's basically back with the program.

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Speaker 14: So I'm very curious to hear all about this tomorrow

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Speaker 14: when we talk to coach Mella and the rest of

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Speaker 14: that staff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you you have as many questions about that as

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Speaker 4: as we do, so I'm looking forward to seeing how

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Speaker 4: that story continues to unfold.

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Speaker 13: Cam.

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Speaker 4: Thank you enough. I know you have a lot going on.

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Speaker 4: Enjoy the game, have a great call. Thank you for

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Speaker 4: the time, Brian, much appreciate it.

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Speaker 10: Hey Man, great to be with you.

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Speaker 4: You know what you should do? Jay Morrison's with this

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Speaker 4: start against the Bills on Sunday. Guy who apologizes to

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Speaker 4: go on. Things are are wonderful and things look like

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Speaker 4: they're progressing a release to T Higgins. Correct, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 19: It looks really encouraging. He was a full participant today.

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Speaker 19: He's technically still in concussion protocol, but that's just because

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Speaker 19: he has to do one full practice and then meet

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Speaker 19: with an independent neurologist. That meeting will take place tomorrow morning,

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Speaker 19: and all expectations are that he will be cleared and

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Speaker 19: be ready to play Sunday against Buffalo.

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Speaker 4: So, now, like you look at them all offensively, they're

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Speaker 4: very healthy and Jay, do they like actually have a

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Speaker 4: good offensive line?

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Speaker 17: Now, yeah, sure seems like it. I mean, think about this.

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Speaker 19: They've given up one sack in each of the last

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Speaker 19: three games. The last time they gave up three or

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01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:44,719
Speaker 19: fewer sacks in a three game span was the last

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01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 19: three games of twenty twenty. And they're running the ball

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01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 19: really well. They've really kind of found something. Chase Brown

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Speaker 19: six straight games with one hundred scrimmage yards or more

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01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 19: and this team they're rushing yards per average is one

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Speaker 19: of the best it's been in the last twenty five years.

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Speaker 19: It's just all the metrics are really impressive. And then

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01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 19: the eye test is there too. They're moving people, they're

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Speaker 19: creating holes. You see Chase Brown, he's not quite late

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Speaker 19: Le'Veon Bell, but he's really kind of patient picking his

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01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,640
Speaker 19: spots back there because there are spots. It used to

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01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:19,719
Speaker 19: be there was nowhere to go. Now, there's multiple ways

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01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 19: to go and there it's one of the more remarkable turnarounds.

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Speaker 19: I'm not ready to put the defense in the turnaround

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01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 19: department yet. Let's see a few more games. But what

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Speaker 19: this offensive line has done, especially under our first year

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01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 19: coach and Scott Peters, has really been impressive.

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Speaker 4: It has been. Now can they lean on Chase Brown

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Speaker 4: in that offensive line a little bit more on Sunday

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Speaker 4: because I don't know, as awesome as it was to

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Speaker 4: have Joe Burrow back thirty three attempts in the first

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Speaker 4: half against Baltimore, we can't have a repeat of that

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Speaker 4: moving forward.

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Speaker 10: Right Well, I don't know. I mean, can they lean

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Speaker 10: on him?

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Speaker 13: Yes?

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Speaker 10: Will they?

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Speaker 17: Who knows?

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Speaker 10: I mean.

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Speaker 19: Zach Taylor was asked about in his press conference this

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Speaker 19: week about it's December, it's.

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Speaker 10: Cold weather, do you lean more into the run game?

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Speaker 19: And he's like, we'veed up pretty well throwing the ball

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Speaker 19: in cold weather.

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Speaker 17: They're they're gonna stick to who they are.

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Speaker 19: I think if they get a lead, you might see.

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Speaker 10: Them lean into that running game more.

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Speaker 17: In the second half.

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Speaker 19: But I think they're gonna come out attacking and and

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Speaker 19: really not just attacking with the passing game, but mixing

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01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 19: it up. That's the key thing is where they are

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01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:21,000
Speaker 19: not predictable and they can they can get good.

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Speaker 4: Games with the running game.

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Speaker 19: And I just I don't think they're ever going to

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Speaker 19: change their stripes, so to speak. I think they're always

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Speaker 19: going to be a pass first team. But knowing you've

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Speaker 19: got that kind of run game that they can offset

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01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 19: things is really important, especially now you probably have to

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Speaker 19: win every game down the road or down the stretch,

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Speaker 19: it seems like, and they do seem poised to do that.

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Speaker 19: They just put a lot of points in a lot

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Speaker 19: of yards on a really good Baltimore defense. They get

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Speaker 19: by Buffalo this week, and it gets really interesting, it.

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Speaker 4: Does it does, then it's game on. They they need

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Speaker 4: they need to continue to build upon what they've done

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Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks. On defense. They they actually

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Speaker 4: like one after Lamar Jackson on Thanksgiving Night. Can that

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01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:02,720
Speaker 4: be a template moving forward? If you have guys who

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01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:05,720
Speaker 4: can't cover, and we've seen their coverage issues a linebacker,

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01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 4: can they just have those guys blitz the quarterback instead.

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Speaker 19: I do think we're gonna see more of that. I

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01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:15,320
Speaker 19: think that was kind of a unique thing where they knew.

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Speaker 19: I think everyone knows that Lamar is not one hundred percent,

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Speaker 19: and they felt like that was a good plan.

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Speaker 10: I don't know if blitzing Josh Allen is.

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Speaker 19: The way to go this week, but the fact that

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Speaker 19: Al Golden feels more comfortable calling those blitzes and that

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Speaker 19: he knows he can put more on the plate of

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Speaker 19: these young guys that the pass rush has been lacking

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Speaker 19: all year, and that's a way to spark it. It's

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Speaker 19: not just bringing linebackers, it's bringing corners, it's bringing safeties.

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Speaker 19: They're really mixing things up, and I don't know that

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Speaker 19: you're going to see it that much this week. Like

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Speaker 19: I said against Josh Allen, he's not a guy that

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Speaker 19: you want to try to flush from the pocket with

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Speaker 19: the blitz. But I do think the final few games

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Speaker 19: of the season we are going to see Al Golden

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Speaker 19: lean more.

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Speaker 17: Into that aggressive approach with the blitz.

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Speaker 4: Is the stunts and the games awesome stuff is always

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Speaker 4: They got issues there. They got issues on the outside

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Speaker 4: We have three people waiting on hold? We could give

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Speaker 4: each person, you say, two minutes, about two minutes? Yet

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Speaker 4: two minutes, David? Your two minutes starts right now?

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Speaker 12: Hi, David, Well, what's happening to my man.

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Speaker 4: Sitting here doing a talk show? How about yourself?

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Speaker 12: I gotta tell you you're my favorite. I like calling

1930
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Speaker 12: every once in a while when I get fired up.

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Speaker 12: My son tells me not to do it. He's a

1932
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Speaker 12: big fan of yours too.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of you, guys.

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Speaker 12: I'm gonna just ask you one question. I am a

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Speaker 12: UC die Hard. When is the finger gonna get pointed

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Speaker 12: at John Cunningham?

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Speaker 4: I think it already has been. I think if you

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Speaker 4: ask most fans.

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Speaker 12: I just don't we just we keep accepting mediocrity and

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Speaker 12: our athletic directors.

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Speaker 10: Prior to that pop coins.

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Speaker 4: I forget the guy who was after that Mike Thomas.

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Speaker 12: They thought big and we're We've got a great program,

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Speaker 12: we've got great facilities.

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Speaker 18: I just it's driving.

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Speaker 14: Well.

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Speaker 4: I guess the question I would have for you is

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Speaker 4: fingers from whom like fingers from the board, the fingers

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Speaker 4: from I think for the cat I think well, I

1950
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Speaker 4: can't speak for the big money people. I could speak

1951
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Speaker 4: to your rank and file fan, and I think many

1952
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Speaker 4: are looking at John Cunningham going Okay, we're not nuts

1953
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Speaker 4: about your football coach, we're not nuts about your men's

1954
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Speaker 4: basketball coach. And you've got to be good, good, really

1955
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Speaker 4: good in at least one and right now they're not

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Speaker 4: really good at either, and so yet I think most

1957
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Speaker 4: are looking at John Cunningham wondering if if they do

1958
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Speaker 4: move on from either In Scott Sadderfield's going to be

1959
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Speaker 4: back next year, But is this the ad we want hiring?

1960
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Speaker 4: Who's next?

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Speaker 18: Well I feel a little bit better.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for the the feedback, but you know.

1963
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I give Wes one more year, but I Caderfield

1964
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Speaker 12: He's I'm done.

1965
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think David, thanks very much. I don't know

1966
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Speaker 4: that after your team won seven games in this cycle

1967
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Speaker 4: where there's a million openings that this is when you

1968
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Speaker 4: want to jump in and need to go get a

1969
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Speaker 4: new head coach. Now that said, I, I don't know

1970
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Speaker 4: that finishing with seven wins is going to make anybody

1971
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:47,000
Speaker 4: feel like, you know what, Scott Sadafield is the guy.

1972
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Speaker 4: I don't think anybody's gonna feel that way until they're

1973
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Speaker 4: playoff team. And that's that's the goal right now. And

1974
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Speaker 4: so as long as there's some level of unease, distrust,

1975
01:40:55,840 --> 01:41:00,599
Speaker 4: discontent with both coaches in the two highest profile sports,

1976
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:04,479
Speaker 4: and this athletic director hired both. John Cunningham is a

1977
01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:06,840
Speaker 4: good administrator, might raise a lot of money, a lot

1978
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Speaker 4: of really good things. What fans care about most is

1979
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Speaker 4: the success in those two sports. And when they're not

1980
01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:14,439
Speaker 4: there and they're your coaches, yeah, the finger gets pointed

1981
01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:16,920
Speaker 4: at you. I don't know how they feel the Bard

1982
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 4: of Trustees feels about John cunning You have no idea,

1983
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:22,120
Speaker 4: but I hear it all the time from fans who wonder, like,

1984
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 4: is this ad the guy who's going to kind of

1985
01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:30,439
Speaker 4: help this these two major programs get get out of

1986
01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:33,000
Speaker 4: the for lack of a better way of putting it,

1987
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 4: malaise they have been in. I think it's fair. Uh, Mike,

1988
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Speaker 4: your two minute starts now.

1989
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Speaker 10: Thank you, will You're welcome.

1990
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Speaker 13: Well, my two favorite NFL analyst, Steve Young, without question

1991
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:50,719
Speaker 13: in Craig Greg Kosel, who's done with the NFL films

1992
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:56,280
Speaker 13: for forty six years, so I think he knows what

1993
01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:58,439
Speaker 13: he's talking about a little bit. I know you want

1994
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:00,559
Speaker 13: to talk about scharbur and I want to talk about

1995
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 13: it too, but I think I'll wait till after this

1996
01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:08,599
Speaker 13: weekend to give more jazz up about it. But I

1997
01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:13,280
Speaker 13: listened to Greg COASLVI this morning for a bit, right

1998
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Speaker 13: after right before my surgery, and he was talking about

1999
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 13: how excellent the Packers are in the red zone. I

2000
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:24,680
Speaker 13: haven't looked up. I just whatever he says, I believe it.

2001
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:27,960
Speaker 13: He was just talking to me, talking to the audience

2002
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 13: about how good Jordan Love is in the red zone.

2003
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:38,040
Speaker 13: Now he broke the red zone down, okay, into the

2004
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:42,320
Speaker 13: upper red zone and the lower red zone. Now, either

2005
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:45,040
Speaker 13: one of the red zone areas are difficult to play

2006
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:48,479
Speaker 13: zone defense. The lower red zone from ten yards in

2007
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:52,000
Speaker 13: you can't play zone defense. You have to play manda man,

2008
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:56,320
Speaker 13: there's not enough room to play zone right. So he

2009
01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:59,880
Speaker 13: was talking about then he was talking about the Cowboys

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Speaker 13: and and uh, but back to the the Cowboys, by

2011
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:07,639
Speaker 13: the way, I'm taking them money line tonight, and I'm

2012
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 13: taking Bengals money line too.

2013
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:09,839
Speaker 4: On Sunday.

2014
01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 13: I'm definitely taking money Bengals money line. So listen, then

2015
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Speaker 13: Joe is back Jack and and Buffalo is gonna wish

2016
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:21,160
Speaker 13: he wasn't. But and the other line has gotten better.

2017
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Speaker 13: But what what what? What dude was saying Cosell was saying,

2018
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:27,519
Speaker 13: mo was since you can't play man on a zone

2019
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Speaker 13: in the in the lower red zone, you gotta play

2020
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Speaker 13: man that. He's tired of seeing teams just settle for

2021
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:34,800
Speaker 13: jump balls.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, jump balls in.

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Speaker 13: The end zone. That's not a scheme, he said. The

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Speaker 13: teams that do well in the reds kone red zone

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Speaker 13: are more schematically oriented.

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Speaker 14: Uh.

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Speaker 13: He gave an example of will play the other day

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Speaker 13: with Green Bay where they had two wideouts on the

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01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:56,519
Speaker 13: on the on the wide side of the field, stacked

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01:43:56,880 --> 01:43:59,680
Speaker 13: sacked on the boundary side the short side. They had

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01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 13: more weight up, so when dobbs and and Watson broke

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Speaker 13: out at the tenth from the ten, they they crossed

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Speaker 13: each other, which caused the two DB's to have to

2034
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:18,400
Speaker 13: or or safety to have to switch. They had to switch.

2035
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Speaker 13: The defenders had to switch because the guy's crisscrossed. And

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Speaker 13: when that happened, then Dobbs had it was just pitch

2037
01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:29,559
Speaker 13: and catch because at that time then the defender is

2038
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:33,880
Speaker 13: on his inside shoulder. But we're thrown it outside to

2039
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:35,920
Speaker 13: the corner of the end zone. Not a jump ball.

2040
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:39,000
Speaker 13: It's just pitch and catch. But his point was be

2041
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Speaker 13: schematically solid in that lower red zone. That's all I got.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate the encapsulation of those radio segments. Mike, thank

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01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 4: you very much. Bob, you're two minute starts.

2044
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Speaker 11: Now, Well, I get me a bull report.

2045
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Speaker 4: It's Bill Cunningham. Hi. Bill, Oh, I.

2046
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Speaker 11: Heard you talking earlier about my relative, and I have

2047
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:04,680
Speaker 11: to say, I think he is in there for the

2048
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:11,040
Speaker 11: long term, so he's not going anywhere. And wets Miller

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Speaker 11: and Centerfield, both of those guys I hired when I

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Speaker 11: had had a little bit too much alcohol and at

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Speaker 11: the end of their tenure for less at the end

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Speaker 11: of this year, unless we make the NCAA tournament, and

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01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:34,000
Speaker 11: I'll give Scott one more year with a new safely

2054
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Speaker 11: center to see what he can do.

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Speaker 13: But if, but.

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Speaker 11: If it's no better than seven wins. Next year he's

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Speaker 11: gone as well, and we'll probably be able to hire

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Speaker 11: Luke fickleback.

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Speaker 4: All right, likely Bill, it's it's uh, it's it's nice

2060
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Speaker 4: of you to call the show on Bob's phone. Nice

2061
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Speaker 4: to hear from you. We'll see, uh, we'll see in

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Speaker 4: the in the office next week.

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Speaker 11: Okay, I'll be there, Moe, And thanks again for your time.

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Speaker 4: It is twelve away from six. By the way, the

2065
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:09,000
Speaker 4: John Cunningham thing, like, I think there's a lot of

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01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:12,000
Speaker 4: fans who are like, dude, this ad hired these two coaches.

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01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 4: These two coaches aren't winning enough. I think if you

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Speaker 4: stick with the ad long term, what you have to

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01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:21,960
Speaker 4: wonder is an athletic director's primary function, more than anything else,

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Speaker 4: is to raise money. If somebody's not that popular, how

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Speaker 4: does he or she raise money. We never got to

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Speaker 4: the Steve Phillips audio Steve Phillips former Mets, gm MLB

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Speaker 4: network Taraen. We don't have time for that, fortunately. No,

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Speaker 4: So your effort to go dig up that audio I

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Speaker 4: have totally wasted. You could be honest, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 4: get mad at you. I wasted it, all right, And

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Speaker 4: maybe they can use it. Maybe they can use it. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: not the first thing I've wasted. We're done shows over

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Speaker 4: Bengals pep rally in our plays Tomorrow Friday Football Frenzy

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Speaker 4: Westchester for the Tony and Mo Football Show. Have an

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Speaker 4: amazing night. Thanks to Tarrem Bland for producing and doing

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Speaker 4: stuff that I didn't even use. That's how good he

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Speaker 4: is there. We have so much stuff on this show

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Speaker 4: that some of the good stuff we we don't even

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Speaker 4: have time for. It's the cutting room floor. We have

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Speaker 4: to bump it. We have to go. Have a great night,

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