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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike since E three sixty about Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: From Cincinnati, this is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back since he three to sixty. ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station. As we embark on the third and

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Speaker 2: final hour of the Thursday edition here, let's let's do

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Speaker 2: so with a guest that joins us each and every Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Right here at this time slot. Our friend from Bearcat

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Speaker 2: Journal dot Com, Keegan Nickoson, joins us right now. Keegan,

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Speaker 2: what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Nothing much, Tony?

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Speaker 4: How are you well?

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Speaker 2: It's been a week. We have a Bearcat basketball team

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Speaker 2: winners of three straight games, and we also have seen

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Speaker 2: early returns on Bischo ball, starting with a win at Auburn.

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Speaker 2: Let's start real quick on the baseball team. Can you

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Speaker 2: put into perspective how big of a win that is

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Speaker 2: early on in the baseball season to go on the

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Speaker 2: get a win in dominating fashion like you she was

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Speaker 2: able to do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think when people remember that.

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Speaker 4: First year when they were on.

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Speaker 3: The bubble outside looking in a women like.

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Speaker 4: What they got over Auburn would have been.

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Speaker 5: A huge help and possibly getting them to the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 5: So that's that's just huge for a team that is

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Speaker 5: probably going to be close to the bubble and also

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Speaker 5: huge for a team that needed some momentum to kind

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Speaker 5: of prove to the country and maybe even prove to

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Speaker 5: themselves that, you know, despite losing the two players that

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Speaker 5: they lost to the MLB last year, they are still

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Speaker 5: a very good team and they're a very deep team.

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Speaker 3: And that's what Jordan Bischel told us before the.

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Speaker 5: Season that while they might not have as much top

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Speaker 5: of the level talent, they are very very deep basically

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Speaker 5: all over the place and definitely including pitching. So that

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Speaker 5: getting that win, especially shutting them out eight to nothing,

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Speaker 3: Absolutely mass So credit to Jordan Bischlin this team.

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Speaker 2: There's expectations set at the start of every year. Where

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Speaker 2: do the expectations start with this baseball program at the

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Speaker 2: University of Cincinnati? Is it back to the tournament? Where

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Speaker 2: where do those start and stop going into this season?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think when we talked to Jordan before the season,

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Speaker 5: he didn't lay out anything specifically, but he definitely did

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Speaker 5: say that they would be pretty disappointed if they weren't

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Speaker 5: playing into June.

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Speaker 3: So I think the expectation is.

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Speaker 5: To get back to postseason ball, maybe even sliding into

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Speaker 5: that like two seed and whatever region they get, or

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Speaker 5: maybe they play really really well and they're able to

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Speaker 5: host the regional motivated by getting I think the ninth

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Speaker 5: or eighth spot in the preseason Big Twelve. So they're

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Speaker 5: a good team and I think that they expect to

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Speaker 4: In that regional wherever they're at.

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Speaker 3: And when I asked coach Bischell before the.

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Speaker 5: Season, like, what did you learn about playing in the

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Speaker 5: regional like you did at Tennessee, And he said, you

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Speaker 5: need pitching depths, like in order to play that entire

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Speaker 5: weekend and be competitive in the games, you have to

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Speaker 5: have that fifth and sixth reliever that's going to get

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Speaker 5: I think that he's confident that they got those guys

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Speaker 2: Before I get into UC hoops, it's been a bizarre

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Speaker 2: college basketball week. I want to get your thoughts on

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Speaker 2: a couple of different things. What did you make of

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Speaker 2: the scenes in East Lansing as Mick Cronan ejected his

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Speaker 2: after the game as well.

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Speaker 5: Part of me thinks that Nick kind of lives in

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Speaker 5: his own world and he doesn't care about what anyone

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Speaker 5: a college basketball coach has to have a little bit

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Speaker 5: of that inside of them. Now, none of that is

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Speaker 5: a usable like throwing your kid out of the stadium

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Speaker 5: And then like I've dealt with coaches and press conferences

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Speaker 4: A hole, they're gonna take advantage of it. And Nick

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Speaker 5: So you know, that's also a telltale sign of not

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Speaker 5: And you know, it's a Michigan reporter asking Mick Cronin

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Speaker 4: Know, it doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 3: It's competition, and it's it's what makes great atmosphere is great,

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Speaker 3: but Nick is gonna completely dismiss it, So yeah, it was.

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Speaker 5: It was pretty fun. I actually fell asleep on the

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Speaker 3: Waiting for the conference to get upseted on YouTube, so

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Speaker 2: Big Twelve happenings. Terrible news out of Lubbock for Texas Tech,

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Speaker 2: a team whose resume was extremely interesting because they held

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Speaker 2: obviously an opponent that UCC's coming up in just a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think when you look at the upper echelon

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Speaker 5: that has impacted the most by losing their star player.

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Speaker 5: Like you look at Kansas and Darren Peterson's been out.

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Speaker 4: And they've still been able to win big games.

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Speaker 5: Houston is a machine, Arizona's a machine, Iowa State's the machine.

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Speaker 5: BYU that would probably be the next step with aj

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Speaker 5: Devants and how that impacts them but Texas Tech has

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Speaker 5: really been JT. Top and then Christian Anderson. And now

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Speaker 5: when you lose a guy like Topman, who was in

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Speaker 4: To be National Player.

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Speaker 5: Of the Year, Big Twelve Player of the Year, I

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Speaker 5: think that that makes it really interesting for them.

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Speaker 4: And I mean, they've got to play Cincinnati coming up.

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Speaker 3: The Bearcats are able to.

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Speaker 5: Steal a game from them, and then they've also got

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Speaker 5: Iowa State and DYU down the road do the Raiders.

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Speaker 5: So they've got an interesting remainder of the schedule. But

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Speaker 5: it kind of opens a window for Cincinnati to surprise

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Speaker 2: You also have what happened last night with Kansas and

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Speaker 2: How do you view the situation that's unfolding with arguably

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why I can't stand the NBA. I don't

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Speaker 5: basically all about just maximizing your value, like your monetary value,

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Speaker 4: And credit to him, like, the kid's an absolute stud.

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Speaker 5: He's going to make probably one hundred and fifty two

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Speaker 3: Six years when he signs a Supermax day.

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Speaker 5: But I just there's a part of me that wants

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Speaker 3: Sure, and people talked about it with.

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Speaker 5: Does he actually like playing basketball or is it just

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Speaker 5: maximize his values. So it's a negative on the sport.

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Speaker 5: It's also just another example of people listening to the

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Speaker 5: that want to dip their toe and then they're advising

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Speaker 5: and not in the best interests of the team. What

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Speaker 5: I will say is I wouldn't really expect him to

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Speaker 5: So if you're gonna look for a team that's gonna

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Speaker 4: Kansas is a huge candidate for that.

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Speaker 3: If he's gonna play thirty two minutes a game. There

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Speaker 5: Chance that this is all very real and he's actually

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Speaker 3: Half starts for all these games, so that that could

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Speaker 2: But you know, if that's the case, why not just

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Speaker 4: Just rest him.

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Speaker 3: I have no idea. It's pretty I don't know. Maybe

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Speaker 4: But maybe he scores like thirty.

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Speaker 3: Two points in fifteen minutes in Cincinnati and then just

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Speaker 2: The game itself, Cincinnati winners of three in a row,

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Speaker 2: It was a struggle against Utah. But the silver lining

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Speaker 2: sixty five sixty. I thought, here comes another game that's

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Speaker 2: the final nine points of the game. They have momentum going.

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Speaker 2: How does you see now fill this extended time off

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you just have to continue to play

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Speaker 5: a great example of them being able to overcome adversity

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Speaker 5: You get a genuine quality win over UCF, like UCF

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Speaker 5: and then you beat the two bottom theaters in the

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Speaker 5: we've all seen the some three and one hundred and

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Speaker 3: Under five minutes left for west Miller's stat and they

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Speaker 3: were able to overcome that and get a big win.

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Speaker 3: So I think you just have to continue stacking good days.

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Speaker 3: You have to realize that, barring a miracle, you're probably

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Speaker 3: not going to be playing postseason basketball, but you can

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Speaker 3: still make fans proud, you can still make your teammates

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Speaker 2: When you look at the health of this team, obviously

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Speaker 2: Sean a bib has been out, but it seems like

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Speaker 2: he was getting closer. We got the update on Haynes

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Speaker 2: that we've been kind of waiting for. From a health standpoint,

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Speaker 2: How do you expect them to be at what Wes

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I always try to like predict this, and then

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Speaker 5: there's always an injury on the last possession.

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Speaker 3: Of practice right before they.

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Speaker 4: Leave for an away game, So I never really know.

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Speaker 4: With this team, I would expect Sean to be fine.

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Speaker 4: He missed the.

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Speaker 3: Kansas State game after playing against.

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Speaker 5: I think if Wes Miller can give John.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if five hundred is enough, but I

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Speaker 4: Know if that does happen, because any result that.

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Speaker 5: Sees Wes Miller coming back, the fans will be rightfully

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Speaker 4: It could be. I just don't see Wes Miller wanting

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Speaker 5: Like maybe if it's a thing where it's an amended

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Speaker 3: Like they would move on or he would avoid his buyout.

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Speaker 5: But like Wes is the judge an executioner of Cincinnati basketball.

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Speaker 5: It does not seem like there is a lot of

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Speaker 4: He's taking care of everything.

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Speaker 5: The assistants are obviously helping and they're doing assistant coach things.

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Speaker 4: But like the difference in.

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Speaker 3: Like Satterfield is in the shadows, his assistance to everything.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know if it fits his personality.

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Speaker 4: If it was going to happen, it would be in.

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Speaker 5: But he's brought in Tim Buckley, who has called the

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Speaker 5: So he's brought in the offensive minds to try to

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Speaker 4: That's definitely a good idea.

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Speaker 3: I just don't see Wes Miller doing it.

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Speaker 2: Lastly, and this is a conversation. We had a lot

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Speaker 2: Is that by design? Is his role more off season

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Speaker 5: No, I didn't really expect him to have a role

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Speaker 3: If he has a primary residence in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: He's probably got multiple.

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Speaker 5: You really see his work in the.

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Speaker 2: I get it, Keegan, thanks again for your time. Man,

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Speaker 4: Thanks Tony, and thank you for not raising your voice

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