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Speaker 1: Jackson Bevans, who is here from Cigar Thoughts about your

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Speaker 1: little trip that you had a couple of days ago

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Speaker 1: to Arizona. You got down there, and it's great to

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Speaker 1: have you back. And you know, we usually do this well,

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Speaker 1: once in February, once in July.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of it.

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Speaker 1: So we go, we go football heavy in the in

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Speaker 1: the winter, we go baseball heavy in July.

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Speaker 2: We get you all covered. Man, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 3: I love it, man. Once every six months, it's about

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Speaker 3: all the listeners can take.

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Speaker 1: So you know what is all they can take of

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Speaker 1: me too, but they got to have me every day,

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Speaker 1: so that's that's unfortunate.

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Speaker 4: But it's actually it's actually my fault. I make an

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Speaker 4: institution here that there can only be one Jackson on

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Speaker 4: a kJ R every six months, so it's my fault.

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Speaker 2: Sorry about that. Oh Man, what is good.

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Speaker 1: It's good to have you, and I'm sure that the

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Speaker 1: podcast has been been flowing since the I mean the

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Speaker 1: surprise super Bowl championship. Not a surprise if you would

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Speaker 1: ask a Seahawk fan six weeks ago, but certainly a

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Speaker 1: surprise if you would have you know, you and I

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Speaker 1: were just talking about it. Certainly a surprise if you

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Speaker 1: would ask Seahawk fans that were ready to jump off

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Speaker 1: ledges after game one of the season and five the season.

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Speaker 3: When they were three and two, Yeah, you know, right

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Speaker 3: after they won. We were Fortunately, we had our friends

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Speaker 3: Mina Kimes and Danny Kelly come on the show and

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Speaker 3: we were talking about exactly that. You know, what were

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Speaker 3: earlier and say, hey, this is what happened, which of

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Speaker 3: was just a great lens through which to see. You're right,

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Speaker 3: it was a season that surpassed expectations. But honestly, like

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Speaker 3: I was thinking, this was a divisional round team going

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Speaker 3: seen it by twenty twenty seven, the way things were

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Speaker 3: trending for it to happen so soon, absolutely well.

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Speaker 1: That was the discussion that Softie and Jackson and I

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Speaker 1: had all season long. We were like, Okay, is this

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Speaker 1: twenty twelve, then you're right, it's divisional round. It's one

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Speaker 1: this is this could this could happen next year, And

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Speaker 1: it just came a year, a year earlier than I

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Speaker 2: But I was with you.

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Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, Yeah, an eleven ish win team, a

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Speaker 1: the at the beginning of the season. So why weren't they?

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Speaker 1: Why weren't they the team that we all thought they

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Speaker 1: So you know, why weren't they Why weren't they that

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Speaker 3: I think I think that the reason that they that

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Speaker 3: And Seattle had a lot of injury risks that were

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Speaker 2: The other one didn't play in the Super Zach anybody else.

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Speaker 3: Just that Sarvin A. You know, I mean you had

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Speaker 1: Let's play a little alternate reality there there were two

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Speaker 3: In your mind, I would have thought the Seahawks win

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Speaker 3: I think the Broncos are a better roster. I think

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Speaker 3: But Josh Allen is the most dangerous football player on

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Speaker 2: Carries for sixty yards in a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: You know, again, this is like their twenty thirteen championship.

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Speaker 1: But we didn't think that at the time of the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean there is some hindsight in you know,

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Speaker 1: Jackson and I were talking the other Jackson, that Jackson

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Speaker 4: To befare neither of us have it spelled correctly? That

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Speaker 1: That is the best way if you haven't X in

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Speaker 3: It cannot be overstated how important staying healthy, especially at

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Speaker 1: Well, the only leverage the Hawks have would be the

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Speaker 1: two tags, right, the fourteen million dollar tag and eleven

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Speaker 1: Usually along the lines of John Schneier, Yeah, don't use

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Speaker 1: But Jackson, Jackson felton I last week went through our

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Speaker 1: Then you go to the question marks of the rookie

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Speaker 1: contract class cam Ward.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jackson take Donald Okay.

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Speaker 1: Wipe him out Drake May Jackson felts No, absolutely not. Well,

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Speaker 1: Bevin says, yes, I would.

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Speaker 3: Even with the contract you're taking.

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Speaker 4: I just I think he's a bottom third tier quarterback

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Speaker 4: in the I think he's about twentieth in the NFL

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Speaker 4: right now.

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Speaker 3: And we were going through our rankings.

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Speaker 2: The Seahawks certainly made him look like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna find out a lot about it, the

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Speaker 1: whole playoffs. Really, that's right. He didn't have a good

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Speaker 1: playoffs terrible as I'm on the fence on May, I'm

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Speaker 1: on the fence. I'm also on the fence on Bow Nicks.

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Speaker 3: I do get BO. I take Donald Donald, this is

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Speaker 3: for one year with the age in the contract, or

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Speaker 3: just you're inheriting their contract right now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in question one year or franch you're inheriting the

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Speaker 2: you're inheriting their contract. You're inheriting their contract. That's I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you're building a franchise.

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Speaker 3: I mean Knicks. I think Donald's a better quarterback right now.

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Speaker 3: I agree, But Nicks plus the money that it frees

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Speaker 3: up probably probably Bo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah with that, okay, we'll stick Bow on the list.

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Speaker 1: How about this one? How about Jackson Dart. Jackson Darts

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Speaker 1: got man three more years at twenty two years of age,

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Speaker 1: making four million dollars a year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but is he gonna playoffs? I mean Jackson Dart.

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Speaker 2: Is he's gonna be alive by the time I like.

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Speaker 3: I like Jackson Dart. I think he's good for the league.

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Speaker 3: I think he's great for the Giants. I think he's

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Speaker 3: built for that market. I think he's got it. Yep.

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Speaker 3: But his play style invites danger at the NFL level,

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Speaker 3: and we've seen him. What do you have? Five trips

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Speaker 3: to the tent as a rookie? So Cam Newton without

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Speaker 3: the Cam Newton body, that's that's right? Yea, Sam? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think I think I'm going Sam there. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: Jackson Dart is a total Rush Act test when you

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Speaker 3: look at him.

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Speaker 1: We're still sticking with Mahomes, right, even though he's making

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Speaker 1: fifty plus billion dollars a year.

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Speaker 2: Was still sticking with Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 1: We're still sticking with Joe Burrow. Yes, is there anybody else?

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Speaker 1: Because that that ends my list? So we have Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels because of the contract bo I'm gonna throw

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Speaker 1: may on there.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna agree with Bevans. I'm gonna throw may I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna throw may on there.

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Speaker 1: But but I'm not sold on Drake May as a

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Speaker 1: very good to.

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Speaker 4: The Seattle Seahawks with Drake May at quarterback get to

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Speaker 4: the Super Bowl this year, and I don't know if

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Speaker 4: they beat the Rams with Drake May.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they beat the Rams with Drake May.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they needed Sam to cook that game.

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Speaker 3: They they did. Yeah, I mean, I hear. Look, we're

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Speaker 3: talking about a one game sample where Sam Donald had

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Speaker 3: the game of his life in the biggest moment. I'm

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Speaker 3: not gonna take that away from him. Would Drake May

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Speaker 3: have the game of his life in the biggest moment?

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Speaker 3: I don't think we know that. Taken as a whole, though.

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Speaker 3: I think Drake mayout played Sam Donald this year.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so well, the voters would agree with you. He

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Speaker 1: was second in the MVP by one vote. May Bo

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Speaker 1: Kaylee Williams, Jaden Daniels, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. What was the rest of the original list?

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Speaker 2: Dick Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think you would trade Sam and his

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Speaker 1: contract for Herbert so much money Matthew Stafford, which is

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Speaker 1: you know, Stafford's at forty two million.

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Speaker 2: It's not a massive it's only ten million.

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Speaker 4: But here's the thing is that Stafford could fall down

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Speaker 4: and bring his body at any moment, and you're trading

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Speaker 4: the contract. I think we're trading of franchises right now.

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Speaker 4: It's franchise. We're not just for one game. That's not

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Speaker 4: the debate. The debate is we have to think about

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight for the Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: And Stafford for the long term. I'm not doing that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think Stafford gives you a

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Speaker 1: better chance than Donald of winning the twenty twenty six

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Yes, correct, But I don't think Stafford passed

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six gives you a better chance than Sam

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Speaker 1: Donald to win those super.

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Speaker 2: I want to.

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Speaker 4: I want to have a chance at a title, you know,

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Speaker 4: multiple times in the next five years.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I mean what, Donald's got two more years

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Speaker 3: on his contract, So if he's the guy that we're

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Speaker 3: saying that he is, well, then he's no longer a

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Speaker 3: discount at that point. In fact, he's probably not even

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Speaker 3: a discount after next year because you'll have one year

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Speaker 3: left on a pretty team friendly deal if he's still

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Speaker 3: playing well. So I mean, yeah, it's easy to say, Okay,

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Speaker 3: you know, only maybe one, maybe two more years of

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Speaker 3: Matt Stafford, but that's all you've got Donald at this price.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, I don't think I'll give you I'll

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Speaker 1: give you the rundown of the quarterbacks making more than Sam,

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Speaker 1: and if you hear one that you'd rather have, let

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Speaker 1: me know.

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Speaker 2: Dak at No.

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Speaker 1: Sixty, Jordan Love at fifty five, Lawrence at fifty five.

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Speaker 2: We said, Burrow at fifty five, We said Allen at

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Speaker 2: fifty five, Hey, how about two at fifty three?

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Speaker 1: Like that one God Jared Coff at fifty three, brock

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Speaker 1: Purty at fifty three, Justin Herbert, and Lamar Jackson at

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Speaker 1: fifty two. Jalen Hurts at fifty one. We said, ooh,

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Speaker 1: to what Lamar Jackson?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jackson, we both we both had the same reaction there. Oh, wait,

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Speaker 3: are we debating Lamar Jackson?

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Speaker 2: I'm debating Lamar Jackson?

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Speaker 3: Oh oh, I think I just plugged him into like

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Speaker 3: a no doubt. What are we talking? What are we

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Speaker 3: talking about?

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Speaker 2: I'll put him on the list.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he makes fifty one million dollars and he

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Speaker 1: has on one. I mean Sam Darnald's one more playoff

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Speaker 1: games this year than Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 4: I'm amost gonna ride with you on Stafford. I think

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Speaker 4: I think based on the whole year concept there, I

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Speaker 4: think Stafford too.

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Speaker 2: You're puting Stafford on the list.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 1: I think Jackson's right, okay, and then we passed Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, Kyler Murray, DeShawn Watson, Kirk Cousins. We already

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Speaker 1: have my homes on the list. We have Stafford list.

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Speaker 2: That's okay. So that's it.

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Speaker 1: So right on the same Caleb Daniels, Mahomes that's three,

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Speaker 1: Alan Burrow Jackson, that's six, Stafford bow May that's nine.

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Speaker 1: It puts Donald at ten.

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 1: So he's basically the exact same, whether you factor in

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Speaker 1: the contract or you don't factor in the contract.

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Speaker 2: That's incredible.

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Speaker 3: Well, make sure we're looking the same numbers here. How

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Speaker 3: much more you got Justin Herbert making over the next

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Speaker 3: two years in Sam Donald?

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Speaker 1: Let's see Justin Is it fifty two point five on

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Speaker 1: a five year deal that he signed to me twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three?

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Speaker 3: Give me, yeah, gimme Herbert. Give me Herbert absolutely, with

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Speaker 3: his with his age.

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Speaker 4: The thing with Justin Herbert is that we've only seen

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Speaker 4: him without an offensive line. He's been behind high schoolers

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Speaker 4: at offensive line positions for multiple years. If he actually

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Speaker 4: played on behind Seattle's offensive line, could he be the

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Speaker 4: MVP behind Seattle's line. Yes, so that's that's the kind

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Speaker 4: of factor that we just we just don't know what

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Speaker 4: he would look like behind an actual line.

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Speaker 3: Jason is twenty one hundred yards with Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: Right, I could go there with you and with that

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Speaker 1: offensive line being fixed, I could see that.

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Speaker 2: Team winning thirteen games. Yeah, I really could.

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Speaker 1: So now he's now we've got ten ahead of Sam

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Speaker 1: Donald and I think that's I think that's where we're

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Speaker 1: at here. Four nine four five one? Did we miss anybody?

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Speaker 1: Did we include somebody that you would not have included?

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Speaker 1: Four nine four or five one? To read some of

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Speaker 1: your texts at four forty five? Fun with Audio coming

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Speaker 1: up next.

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Speaker 3: It's now time.

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Speaker 2: For something in Dick's Fun with Audio. Jimmy g powd Star,

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Our friend Jackson Bevans from Cigar Thoughts joining us till

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Speaker 1: seven o'clock tonight. Hey, Jackson, did you hear that was

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Speaker 1: that Dick? Last week on ESPN's First Take, NBA insider

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Speaker 1: Brian Windhorse said that Stephen A started the rumors about

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Speaker 1: his own candidacy for the president of the United States,

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Speaker 1: and Steven a did not take kindly to these allegations.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about.

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Speaker 4: The guy has been rumor circulating that he could possibly

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Speaker 4: be a candidate in the next election for the president

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Speaker 4: of the United States.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what are we doing right now, Wendy.

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Speaker 8: That is completely and utterly not true. I did not

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Speaker 8: start those rumors, not at all. Do your homework on that,

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Speaker 8: mister insider. I did not stop those rumors, and not

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Speaker 8: at all. But at the end of the day, the

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Speaker 8: people are speaking, and that's what you see.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna run.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he started those rumors.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Windhorse was right.

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Speaker 3: He's not guaranteed. But if if there's one thing we

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Speaker 3: need as a society, it's more Steven Asam.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, imagine him just on the debate stage,

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Speaker 4: just trying to debate actual politicians.

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Speaker 2: That that's comedy Like that would be great. It would

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Speaker 2: be high theater fun.

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Speaker 3: With audio for the entire show.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Jagson, you hear that?

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Speaker 3: What's that?

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Speaker 1: Dick Pirates star pitcher Paul Skane spoke with reporters last

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Speaker 1: week about representing Team USA in the World Baseball Classic

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Speaker 1: after America's recent success in the Olympics.

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Speaker 4: Seeing what the men's hockey team does get you even

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Speaker 4: me even more excited to be in the situation.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, men's hockey on hockey, all the other you know,

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Speaker 9: goals that you want in the Olympics. In America, we

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Speaker 9: go with cert our Domina and so everybody else. That's

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Speaker 9: what we do. Sell, it's gonna be it's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 9: I want to say, wins. That's what we do. So

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Speaker 9: gotta keep it going.

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Speaker 3: We win, It's what we do.

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Speaker 2: Hashtag America from Paul Skiings. You know.

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Speaker 1: The World Baseball Classic starts in two days with Chinese

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Speaker 1: type against Australia. The US plays Brazil on Friday in

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Speaker 1: Houston for the first game of the World Baseball class Like, Hey, Jackson,

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Speaker 1: you hear that?

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Speaker 3: What's that, Dick?

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Speaker 1: The Miami of Ohio basketball team is the last undefeated

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Speaker 1: college program at twenty nine and zero. On TNT's coverage

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Speaker 1: on Saturday, former coach Bruce Pearl question if Miami Ohio

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Speaker 1: should even make the NCAA Tournament if they do not

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Speaker 1: win the Max Conference Tournament.

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Speaker 10: Miami Ohowe, here's the deal. Are we gonna select the

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Speaker 10: sixty eight most deserving teams. Are we gonna sixty select

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Speaker 10: the sixty eight best teams. If we're selecting the sixty

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Speaker 10: eight best teams, then miam Moohow's gonna have to win

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Speaker 10: their tournament to qualify as a champion because as in

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Speaker 10: at large, they are not one of the best teams

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Speaker 10: in the country, and that's going to be a difficult

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Speaker 10: choice for the committee to make.

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Speaker 11: The MAC has not had multiple teams multiple bids since

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Speaker 11: ninety eight ninety nine, so that's almost thirty years ago,

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Speaker 11: and the strength of schedule for Miami of Ohio three

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Speaker 11: hundred and twenty first, it doesn't look good when we're

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Speaker 11: weighing resumes, which is what's happening with the bubble talk.

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Speaker 10: I mean, you're going to play your way in. Are

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Speaker 10: you gonna lose your way out? It's it's just that

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Speaker 10: simple with all these teams.

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Speaker 1: I was listening to a college basketball analyst with Mark

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Speaker 1: James today and he was like, Hey, Miami of Ohio

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Speaker 1: is trying to play some of these Power five schools

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Speaker 1: and they don't want to play them NOP. So you're

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Speaker 1: caught in this situation where you're twenty nine to oh

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Speaker 1: you got guys like Bruce Pearl coming on national TV

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Speaker 1: saying you don't deserve to be in the tournament because

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Speaker 1: you didn't beat anybody, And then yeah, the coach at

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the season are like, well, we're trying

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Speaker 1: to play Power five schools and they don't want to

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Speaker 1: play us because they don't want to get a bad

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Speaker 1: loss on their resms.

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Speaker 3: So let's say this happens and they're thirty three and

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Speaker 3: one whatever it ends up being, and its selection time

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Speaker 3: and the only game they lost is the MAC Championship.

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Speaker 3: What we're supposed to shed a bunch of tears because

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Speaker 3: the eleventh best SEC team didn't get in. Instead, like,

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Speaker 3: whose heart are we breaking here? How about the kids

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Speaker 3: that go thirty three and one get a chance to

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Speaker 3: show the country if they're legit. Now these teams that

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Speaker 3: allegedly didn't want to play them have to play them

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Speaker 3: with their season on the line. That to me is

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Speaker 3: not only better theater, but a more deserving matchup than

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Speaker 3: you know, like I said, some team that's in the

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Speaker 3: middle of their own conference.

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Speaker 4: That's right, because the NCAA tournaments for all of us,

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Speaker 4: as fans of these entire country in the world, who

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Speaker 4: just want to watch fun basketball, right, We want to

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Speaker 4: be entertained to what you were just saying. And the

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Speaker 4: reality is, what's going to be more entertaining this amazing

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Speaker 4: undefeated until the very end team or just okay, the

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Speaker 4: school we see one out of every two or three

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Speaker 4: years make the tournament. That's just boring in your eight

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Speaker 4: nine game. Come on, give us the drama.

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Speaker 1: Well, we want to see the unknown as well, because

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Speaker 1: if Miami Ohio goes into the NCAA Tournament and at

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Speaker 1: thirty one and one or whatever and they're at ten seed, well,

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Speaker 1: that's going to be more intriguing to me to watch

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Speaker 1: that team against the seventeen seventeen than the tenth place

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Speaker 1: team from the Big Ten, because I know what the

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Speaker 1: tenth place team from the Big Ten is. It's like

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Speaker 1: it's like between UCLA and Washington. It's not good. It's

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Speaker 1: not good basketball. And so at least Miami Ohia is

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Speaker 1: playing good basketball except against not very good competition.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Jagson, did you hear that?

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Speaker 1: What That last week at the NFL Combine, former o

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Speaker 1: House state wide receiver Carnell Tate sat down with our

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Speaker 1: friend Mike Florio and Chris Sims on their pro football

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Speaker 1: talk show, and the guys talked about his favorite hobby

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Speaker 1: off the field.

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Speaker 3: What do we do when we get away from football?

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Speaker 3: What do you do in your spare time? I'll play

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Speaker 3: video games? I got Legosi going.

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Speaker 2: What lego set?

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Speaker 3: Are you doing?

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Speaker 6: H so right now? Currently Titanic still so I've been in.

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Speaker 6: It's just like the beginning of the season. Okay, are

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Speaker 6: we working out? Yes, we are, Keep talking legos.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it a great way to just kind of get

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Speaker 2: away from everything?

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Speaker 3: Definitely?

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Speaker 4: You forget like like the whole world just disappears and

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Speaker 4: you're just focusing on getting these damn blocks connected.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, definitely.

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Speaker 2: What's the best one you've done other than the Titanic

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Speaker 2: Diffel Tower?

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Speaker 6: It's about five feet tall. Long, long days, long hours

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Speaker 6: putting into it.

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Speaker 2: First thing we're gonna buy with this NFL money.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I definitely got a spoiled with Grenny by her

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Speaker 6: nice lettle house in Chicago so that I can have

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Speaker 6: back home and called Chicago my home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah cool man. I thought I was gonna say another Lego?

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Speaker 3: What's the next lego?

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Speaker 6: So that although probably one of the Star Wars collecting Yeah, yeah, wow, get.

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Speaker 3: The Ghostbusters Firehouse.

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Speaker 2: You guys gotta checked that one out.

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Speaker 3: You guys are nerds.

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Speaker 2: Did you see Mike tweeted out the Ghostbusters fire House?

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Speaker 2: So did you think?

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Speaker 3: Do you see?

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Speaker 4: Me and Mike were tweeting back and forth all weekend

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Speaker 4: because because I sent it out and I said, Carnel

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Speaker 4: Tat and Mike Florio men of culture. So I then

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Speaker 4: I said, but Mike, you gotta do the Saturn five rocket.

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Speaker 4: And then Mike tweets me a picture of his Saturn

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Speaker 4: lego rocket. I send it back to him and listen, good,

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Speaker 4: good people do legos.

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Speaker 1: See, I have a great deal of respect for people

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Speaker 1: that can do legos because I.

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Speaker 2: Am not one of those patients. Patients.

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Speaker 1: It's not the patients, it's the spatial the lack of

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Speaker 1: spatial ability. Like I am know you used to do

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Speaker 1: those you do those standardized tests when you're in right

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Speaker 1: reading boom math boom English boom space ability logic.

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Speaker 2: Like it was like twenty seventh percentile or something like it.

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Speaker 1: I cannot was like, if you if you have a

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Speaker 1: picture of this cube tilted this way, what would it

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Speaker 1: look like if you tilted it thirty two percent?

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Speaker 2: I don't know it looked like a bus. I don't yeah, idea.

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Speaker 5: Dick Dick stumbling around the kJ R studios bumping in door,

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Speaker 5: loss balance.

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Speaker 1: And yet I've got a son who has loved legos

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Speaker 1: since he could put a lego together, and you should

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Speaker 1: see it.

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Speaker 2: Jack, I'll do a video. I'll do a video of

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Speaker 2: his room.

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Speaker 4: I got twenty five in my house right now, in

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Speaker 4: five that I haven't done yet.

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Speaker 2: So he is.

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Speaker 1: His whole room is just filled with all these Star

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Speaker 1: Wars legos that I've spent thousands and thousands and thousands

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Speaker 1: of dollars over.

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Speaker 2: The last ten years. Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: So at least he's got better space ability. Maybe he'll

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Speaker 1: be an engineer, because there's no way in l anybody

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Speaker 1: would want Dick Fane building anything that they're driving over.

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Speaker 2: Or living in. That is for sure.

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Speaker 1: Three point fifty five. Hugh Millon's got to have space ability.

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Speaker 1: He was an NFL quarterback. He's coming up next on

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Speaker 1: ninety three point three KJRFM