1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Is Tony Pike Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati. From Cincinnati. 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: It's our two Welcome in Sincy three sixty ESPN fifteen 4 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. We had the opportunity on Thursdays 5 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: during the NFL season to talk to our guy, John 6 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: Sheeran covering the Cincinnati Bengals from made his e Sports 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: and with all the happenings going on around the NFL 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 2: Combine and and what the Bengals should or may look 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: to do in the upcoming NFL Draft, we thought a 10 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 2: good time to catch up with John, who is kind 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 2: enough to join us right now. 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 3: John, what's going on? How are you doing well? 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 4: Tony? We just got the actual Olympics. Now we got 14 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 4: the under underwear Olympics. Now it's a good week. 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: The underwear Olympics is a good way to put it. 16 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: Before we dive in, Austin said this before the break, 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: I have to get your your thoughts as a fellow 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: Bearcat fan, what do you make of the same situation 19 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: unfolding with Brendan Soresby in the University of Cincinnati and 20 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: recouping a million dollars I don't. 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 4: Really share my thoughts on anil and stuff like that, 22 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 4: but it is like every time we see a story 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 4: like this, it just feels like another pillar of the 24 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 4: college sports world that we know breaking down, and it 25 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 4: just seems like this is inevitably going to lead to 26 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 4: something that we really never really experienced for and it 27 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 4: just seems like all these you know, like legalities and 28 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 4: lawsuits and things, it's just all leading to something a 29 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 4: lot larger and at the end of the day, like 30 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 4: a million dollars and a million dollars for some institutions. 31 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 4: For some players it's not much, but for some it's 32 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 4: a lot. And yeah, yeah, like it's never good to 33 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 4: see this sort of thing happen. But I'm just I'm 34 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 4: just kind of want to just send the part where 35 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 4: all this become unrecognizable. We just kind of moved to 36 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 4: to the point where we probably should and that's just 37 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 4: kind of where my head is at at this point. 38 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: I have to ask John because I want to get 39 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: into prospects and the combine and the draft itself. But 40 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: we've had the opportunity to hear from Duke Tobin, we 41 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: heard from Zach Taylor, We've heard from the coordinators, anything 42 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: that they said that that caused you to take note, 43 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 2: or maybe that you questioned what they had to say 44 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: at their time at the combine. 45 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been We've heard from Duke a couple of 46 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 4: times now the saw season, which is one more than 47 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 4: where we usually are at this point in the offseason, 48 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 4: and he's made it very clear that there will be 49 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 4: an emphasis to bolster this pass rush for the defensive 50 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 4: line specifically. We know that that's a huge weakness on 51 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 4: the team, and we also know that in free agency 52 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 4: there is a lot of edge rusher that will be 53 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 4: available and the market will be saturated, and it should 54 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 4: be a position where the Bengals should find someone that 55 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 4: they wont for a price that they that they find desirable. 56 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 4: It may not be the same at defensive tackle, which 57 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 4: is why I thought it was also interesting when dude 58 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 4: left the podium and talked to local Bengals beat writers 59 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 4: that we all know respect. He talked about Beja Hill 60 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 4: and Chris Shank and is now bullish on them? He was, 61 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 4: and that was kind of interesting to me. But I 62 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 4: kind of took it as yeah, like they recognized that 63 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 4: this free agent class may not be very strong at 64 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 4: the defensive tackle spot, but it was no surprise to 65 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 4: see them meet with the top defensive tackle prospects at 66 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 4: the Combine and they may look for answers there. So 67 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 4: I'm really interested to see how they addressed the defensive 68 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 4: line because Duke Tobin doesn't really say anything definitively when 69 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 4: he talks in these spaces, but he's made it very 70 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 4: clear that he wants a deep, incompetent pass rushing years 71 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 4: to bolster the defense. And the way to do that is, 72 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 4: you know, to utilize both RATESNCY and the draft. So 73 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 4: I'm interested to see how they actually end up doing that. 74 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: Is there a defensive tackle in this class that you 75 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 3: can justify taking with the tenth overall pick right now? 76 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 4: Like its so long as Peter Woods tests at his proday. 77 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 4: He's not going to test with the Combine for whatever reason. 78 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 4: But if he tests well at his pro day, I 79 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 4: would probably look to consider him there for sure, just 80 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 4: because of the player that he was in the first 81 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 4: couple of years of Clemson. A lot of stuff happened 82 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 4: there in this past year. He was kind of misused, 83 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: The defense around him kind of fell apart, and I 84 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 4: think a lot of people have questions about you know, 85 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 4: how he kind of responded and why the production dropped, 86 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 4: and that's why, you know, so many teams wanted to 87 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 4: talk to him at the Combine this week, and it 88 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 4: is a shame that he'sn't going to test in the 89 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 4: very standardized setting and a lot of that data is 90 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 4: very useful for his position specifically, and there are some 91 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 4: size concerns with him as well, but I really liked 92 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 4: what I saw from him as another classman. There's a 93 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 4: reason why he was labeled at the top ten pick 94 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 4: entrying this past season, and I don't think that player 95 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 4: necessarily went away. He's only twenty one years old, so 96 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 4: other than him, though, it's not a very promising class, 97 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 4: I'm not in on Caleb Thanks, I'd be with that pick. 98 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 4: I think the production was just very consistent. He missed 99 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 4: all of last season as well, so it's definitely not 100 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 4: a very top heavy class. But if would test like 101 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 4: a decent or good athlete, I a would feel comfortable 102 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 4: with that pick. At this point, I. 103 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: Want to go back one more time to Duke Tobin, 104 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 2: who spent time talking about, you know, with the local 105 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: media of you know, we have work to do and 106 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: we need to get to certain points. But he also 107 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: doubled down that he thinks this team can win a 108 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: Super Bowl right now, And a lot of people also 109 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: kind of had reactions to his quote of we're always 110 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: all in with the Cincinnati Bengals. Did did you take 111 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: anything away from the all in comments from Duke Tobin? 112 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 4: Not necessarily. I think his definition of all in and 113 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 4: our definition of all in or two completely definitions. I 114 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 4: think they are always all in on their own process 115 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 4: and how they believe what they believe in terms of 116 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 4: philosophy and roster building and contractual principles and all that stuff, right, 117 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 4: And I think they're always going to give what they 118 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 4: deem their best effort for what they think is the 119 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 4: right thing to do. But clearly, in almost sixty years 120 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 4: of practice there, it's not not led to Super Bowl, right, 121 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 4: So you would think that some changes could be instituted there, 122 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 4: but we're not really seeing any of those changes on 123 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 4: the horizon. So I think it's like it's hail Mary 124 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 4: at best asking Duke Hobin to sacrifice guaranteed money or 125 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 4: you know, future draft picks for the sake of making 126 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,119 Speaker 4: these aggressive moves that you feel comfortable would improve the roster. 127 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, the Bengals believe 128 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 4: what they believe in. It's just by attacking needs in 129 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 4: terms of volume, in terms of players and contracts that 130 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 4: they feel comfortable with. So going all in doesn't really 131 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 4: move because I know that Duke doesn't really believe that 132 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 4: the way the hood gms do. 133 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: Everyone this time of the year has multiple mock drafts, 134 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: and we've gone through each mock draft on every Monday, 135 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: and we've seen it all, from Ruben Bain to Sunny 136 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 2: Styles to Caleb Downs. We've seen the Bengals addressing corner, 137 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: We've seen the Bengals addressing tackle. Everyone's going to have 138 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: a name or a position to throw out there. But 139 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: as we sit here today at the end of February, 140 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: if you had the opportunity to make the perfect pick 141 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 2: at number ten, who would you be zeroing in on. 142 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 4: I think right now when you're looking at who's worth 143 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 4: that pick in terms of how good they are as 144 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 4: a player, the value that they would bring the to 145 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 4: the Bengals at their position, the value of the position itself, 146 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 4: because I think that's another fact that people kind of 147 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 4: overlook sometimes. But just an elite player who's worth that pick? 148 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 4: To me, it just screams Ruben Bain to me right now. 149 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 4: And this is a little bit of foresight for me, 150 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 4: just like thinking about what's going to happen in for 151 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 4: agency and what the team is going to look like 152 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 4: entering the draft. I feel a lot more comfortable about 153 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 4: the Bengals signing a veteran safety that would make taking 154 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 4: a guy like Caleb Downs a little bit less of 155 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 4: a necessity in compared to where the spots that they 156 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 4: are now. But I think Caleb Downs is just as good, 157 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 4: if not almost even even better prospect compared to Reuben Bay. 158 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 4: I would have them probably in the same bucket, the 159 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 4: same tier, if just guys that feel so comfortable of 160 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 4: being inserted into the defense and making an instant difference. 161 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 4: But I do value an edge rusher over a safety, 162 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 4: and I think it's going to be easier for the 163 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 4: Bengals to sign a competent safety and just make sure 164 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 4: that that position is still entering the draft. But I 165 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 4: think Bain is one of the top five players in 166 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 4: this class, and I think for you know, very archaic 167 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 4: reasons that in terms of arm length and wingspan, he 168 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 4: may actually be available with the tenth overall plays, so 169 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 4: right now, that's still my ideal pick, and I think 170 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 4: he would not only feel the biggest knee, but he 171 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 4: would also give them a truly elite player in the class. 172 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 4: And that's that's the combat that you're looking for. 173 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: We've heard that the term positional value used a lot, 174 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: especially as Caleb Downs is a safety at a number ten. 175 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 3: We've also heard that with Sonny style thrown around. Can 176 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,239 Speaker 3: you explain that to people specifically with the tenth overall 177 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 3: pick and those positions safety and linebacker, and why some 178 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: teams maybe wouldn't spend that pick on those positions. 179 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think those positions specifically, you're looking at top 180 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 4: of the market type of prices in terms of free agents, 181 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 4: right and for a safety and linebacker compared to pass rusher, 182 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 4: compared to off tackles, compared to wide receiver, compared to quarterback, 183 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 4: there's just a different It's in a different atmosphere in 184 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 4: terms of how much you're paying. And because draft picks 185 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 4: they get paid, like, we already know what their contracts 186 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 4: are going to look like before they're even drafted. We 187 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 4: knew what Sjamar Stewart's contract was going to look like 188 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 4: before he actually ended up signing it. Right, Like, those 189 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 4: are locked in values. So when you're talking about taking 190 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 4: the tenth a player with the tenth overal pick, you 191 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 4: know exactly how much he's going to get paid. And 192 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 4: if a defense eventd like Rubin Maine fulfills his potentially 193 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 4: he becomes a really good player by the end of 194 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 4: his rookie contract. You're getting so much value because he's 195 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 4: he plays a position that gets paid, you know, thirty 196 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 4: forty million dollars in new market for that type of player, 197 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 4: whereas compared to the guy that could kill Downs. Kill 198 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 4: Downs could be one of the best safeties in the 199 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 4: league by the time that his contract expires. Short of 200 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 4: contract expires, but you're paying a pretty premium price for 201 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 4: a safety compared to maybe like a pass rusher, maybe 202 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 4: an off of the tackles. Though it's just because like 203 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,599 Speaker 4: what those positions get paid on the open market, you 204 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 4: have to consider the value of that. And it's not 205 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 4: like it's a bad decision, but there's other decisions that 206 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 4: can create more value in especially when you're like the 207 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 4: Bengals and you don't like to spend top of the 208 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 4: market money on freezings. 209 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 3: Anyway, as far as safety is concerned, there's been a 210 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: lot of love for Jordan Battle the last couple of 211 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 3: days from Tobin, from Taylor from Golden What do you 212 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: make of that and maybe what their plan for Jordan 213 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 3: Battle could be to continue his ascension that we saw 214 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: a little bit towards the end of last year. 215 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think because he was a full time starter 216 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 4: for the first time last year, he made a lot 217 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 4: of obviously quality plays. He had his up and downs, 218 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 4: like most players on the defense did. But I think 219 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 4: the way that he progressed and and was able to 220 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 4: position himself to make those plays, I think was a 221 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 4: big positive for them. And considering the fact that this 222 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 4: was his first year really just settling in as a 223 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 4: full time starter, they probably saw enough of him to 224 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 4: be confident and running it back with him. I think 225 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 4: there was also a hesitancy to replace both starting safeties 226 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 4: for the second time in a couple of years, you know, 227 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 4: to try to do that. Obviously back in twenty twenty 228 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 4: three and they failed miserably under Lunarumo. And obviously the 229 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 4: process of replacing those guys all the very good, but 230 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 4: I think they're very locked in on finding a new 231 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 4: partner with Battle, someone who can just do his job 232 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 4: better than what Genostone did and then have Battle kind 233 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 4: of compete in a contract year try to play his best. 234 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 4: Obviously there's motivation with that factor as well, but I 235 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 4: think at the end of the day, Battle did just 236 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 4: enough to kind of secure his spot, and I think 237 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 4: them being bullish on him is a recognition that signing 238 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 4: or drafting two new safeties there to replace both Ginas 239 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 4: Stone and Jordan Battle is probably not feasible. 240 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: We've seen in some marked drafts the name Francis Mawiinoa 241 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: has popped up the offensive tackle from Miami. Do you 242 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 2: foresee or could you foresee a scenario where the Bengals 243 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 2: don't address defense with the number ten overall pick. 244 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think him specifically because he's got this guard 245 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 4: tackle flexibility to him, and I think teams are gonna 246 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 4: look at him in that way just because he's not 247 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 4: maybe as long as he would like a traditional offensive 248 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 4: tackle to be. I think that makes so much sense, 249 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 4: especially considered like we at this point in time, we 250 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 4: don't know if Dalton Riser is gonna be back, so 251 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 4: that they would always say a huge need at right guard, 252 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 4: like Hell we get as a refregency thinking, I'm like, damn, 253 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 4: we need to find outther guard again because he didn't 254 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 4: find rising it right, and like they could, you know, 255 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 4: theoretically fill that need with a tenth overall pick and 256 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 4: with Francis specifically he can play guard as a rookie 257 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 4: and then move out to left tackle potentially to replace ROLANDA. 258 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 4: Brown junior in twenty twenty seven. But regardless of what 259 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 4: happens at right guard, they do need a swing tackle 260 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 4: for the year. I think they need to probably move 261 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 4: on from Cody Ford and find someone better and then 262 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 4: to Grooman to eventually replaced Rolando brun junior at the Planet, 263 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 4: to let him walk in for agency next year because 264 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 4: we're going to be thirty years old. And they cost 265 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 4: a lot again to pay for left tackles, and that's 266 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 4: why selecting a future left tackle the tental rod pick, 267 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 4: there's value to that because again you're paying a fixed 268 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 4: locked in costs for that, and if he ends up 269 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 4: being as good as he wants to be in the 270 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 4: game value with that. So yeah, it makes a lot 271 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 4: of sense to me to use that ticke if there's 272 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 4: not a deepen the player. 273 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 2: That they like there, what about the scenario where let's 274 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: say that the four or five guys that you've highlighted 275 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 2: have already been taken in the first nine picks. And 276 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 2: you know, we heard Duke Tobin kind of talk about, 277 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: you know, best player available versus biggest need. Do you 278 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: do you open the scenario of trading back if you 279 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 2: are the Cincinnati Bengals based on what happens in those 280 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 2: front nine picks ahead of you. 281 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. I actually just talked to someone else in Daisy 282 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 4: Sports who was talking about a scenario about the Tibilia 283 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 4: Buccaneers potentially moving up for guy like Sunny Styles, right, 284 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 4: and how there's been a trade in the past where 285 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 4: from moving up from fifteen to ten you get a 286 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 4: third and the fifth round pick in return. Well, the 287 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 4: Bengals don't have a fifth round pick this year. And yeah, 288 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 4: it would also it would be nice to have more swings, 289 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 4: especially in the class where at the top there's not 290 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 4: a lot of elite talents, so I think there's gonna 291 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 4: be a lot of teams picking around the Bengals. I 292 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 4: would like to move back and just try to take 293 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 4: as many swings as possible on some risky players kind 294 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 4: of in Day two and Day three and whatnot and 295 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 4: just kind of fill out the roster that way. I 296 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 4: am interested to see though, because the Bengals are at 297 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 4: sixty five players in the roster right now. They're typically 298 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 4: around this number after frequency ends, so I don't know 299 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 4: if you know nine or ten players are actually gonna 300 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 4: make the roster who are drafted from the draft class. 301 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 4: So I don't know if a volume of picks is 302 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 4: necessarily the Bengals, that's interest. But if there isn't a 303 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 4: player that's worth picking tens but overall that you feel 304 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 4: like and you can get an extra day to pick 305 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 4: in return, I don't think that's the worst snare in 306 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 4: the world at all. 307 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 3: Duke Tobin described fourth round picks as geno actions. Do 308 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 3: you think that is kind of indicative of how they 309 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 3: view fourth round picks? If every fourth round pick in 310 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 3: their mind is Geno Atkins, do you think they'll ever 311 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:06,479 Speaker 3: trade one. 312 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 4: It's really just it sums up the Bengals a lot, 313 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 4: because they value draft picks as as potential value investments. Right, 314 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 4: a fourth round pick becoming Geno Atkins saves them so 315 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 4: much money from having to spend in free agency on 316 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 4: a player who is like half of Geno Atkins. Right. Obviously, 317 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 4: it's been sixteen freaking years since that pick was made. 318 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 4: They have done anything removing close in the fourth round 319 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 4: since then. But there's always a chance, guys, there's always 320 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 4: a chance that the mystery box becomes a boat instead 321 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 4: of pain for boats. 322 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 3: What do you think of the term force multipliers being 323 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 3: used so much. 324 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 4: I think that's another term that indicates, like, instead of 325 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 4: signing a multitude of guys to fix the problem, signing 326 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 4: one guy that makes the lives of everyone else's jobs easier. 327 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 4: This is the more efficient way of doing that. The 328 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 4: problem though, is that, like the best example of a 329 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 4: force multiplier the Bengals have is a guy like Jamar Chase, right, 330 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 4: someone who takes attention away from other defenders open up 331 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 4: opportunities for guys on offense. He was a overall pick. 332 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 4: He's the highest the offensive player in the league right now. 333 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 4: Those guys are not inexpensive. So yeah, if you find 334 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 4: value force multipliers, that is like a cheat code to 335 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 4: making your roster a lot better. So I think for 336 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 4: a team that has his belief that they are not 337 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 4: that far away from competing for a championship, adding a 338 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 4: couple of pieces to make all the other younger guys 339 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 4: on defense that need some guidance in leadership. I think 340 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 4: that is part of their mindset, is why we've heard 341 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 4: it so much. 342 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 3: Who's more of a force multiplier, Ruben Bain or Caleb Downs. 343 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 4: Oh, that is such a good question. I think honestly 344 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 4: that the answer might be Downs just because of him 345 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 4: being able to communicate on the back end and getting 346 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 4: people lined up. I do question how much he's going 347 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 4: to be able to do that as a rookie, But 348 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 4: I don't really have a lot of questions about Downs 349 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 4: in the first place. I just know that Ruben baines 350 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 4: like you can trust him to win a one on 351 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 4: one situation as a pass rusher, and that opens up 352 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 4: other opportunities for your other pass rusher. So I think 353 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 4: they're both. But I can see the argument for Downs 354 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 4: for sure. 355 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: We knew the combine was going to be a week 356 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: where maybe we learn more about Trey Hendrickson. Do you 357 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: envision anything coming from the combine with interest from another 358 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: team with Trey Hendrickson and perhaps how that would play out. 359 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think those talks are probably still going on. 360 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 4: It's probably leaning towards nothing's really going to happen, because, again, 361 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 4: this is very unprecedented territory when you're talking about the Bengals, 362 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 4: and tagging trade situations are pretty rare anyways. Nowadays, we 363 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 4: haven't seen one since twenty twenty four. The last team 364 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 4: to do that was the Chiefs. They're not shy doing 365 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 4: anything out of the box in that regard. I just 366 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 4: think what's working against the Bengals right now is because 367 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 4: this is such a deep and saturated market for defensive ends, 368 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 4: the market for trading for the rights to pay a 369 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 4: thirty one year old pass rusher coming out of an 370 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 4: injury pill season, they're probably not going to get the 371 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 4: pick that they want. And that was the case all 372 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 4: of last year when they were trying like hell to 373 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 4: find a first round pick for Trey and then they can 374 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 4: only get a Day two pick. Well, now they may 375 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 4: be trying for a Day two pick and maybe they 376 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 4: can only get a Day three pick in return. So 377 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 4: maybe in their minds they feel like letting him walk 378 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 4: and potentially getting a compensatory pick next year is the 379 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 4: better path to just accepting like a fifth round pick 380 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 4: this year for a tagging trade situation that again, takes 381 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 4: a lot of cooperation and communication from both sides, between 382 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 4: the team and the player, and obviously there hasn't been 383 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 4: a lot of communication between the team and Tree Henderson 384 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 4: over the course of his career. So I just don't 385 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 4: foresee that happening at this point. 386 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 3: What's your arm lengths, John, I. 387 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 4: Think it's I think it's more than Reuben Bain, but 388 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 4: I can't confirm that. 389 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 3: Elite measurables. 390 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: It's it's the measurables that they jump off the page. Yeah, 391 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 2: last thing I have in going back to what Duke 392 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 2: Tobin had talked about. We've talked about the draft, We've 393 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: talked about free agency, potential for trades out there. Uh, 394 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 2: his comments on Dalton Reisner and the decision that Dalton 395 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 2: Reisner has to make as well. Uh, do you foresee 396 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 2: something getting done sooner rather than later with Dalton Reisner. 397 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I said all that kind of in jests earlier. 398 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 4: But I do believe the Bengals will extend Don Reisner. 399 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 4: I just think because mainly because he just has never 400 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 4: signed a notable contract before in his career. He's already 401 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 4: thirty years old. There's a clear fit between the player 402 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 4: and the team and the scheme. He wants to be here. 403 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 4: He's made that very clear. And when you have that 404 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 4: sort of passion from the player's side of the negotiations, 405 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 4: especially when he's never really made a sizeable check in 406 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 4: his NFL career, that's typically when these decisions aren't able 407 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 4: to get done. Like I think it's very similar to 408 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 4: Mike Oseeki last year, who obviously played on a one 409 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 4: year deal. He expressed desires, you know, cash in free agency, 410 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 4: but he realized that his best fit was here and 411 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 4: the Bengals were able to get something done. But they're 412 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 4: able to give him the best contract of his career 413 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 4: just two days before the legal tampering window opened up. 414 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 4: So I would say that weekend before free agency is 415 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 4: when this is really going to kind of come to 416 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 4: a head. And I think that's when Donald Reiser will 417 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 4: realize that his best chance of not only making money, 418 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 4: but being in a place that actually fits him is 419 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 4: with the Bengals, And I think that's ultimately when this 420 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 4: gets done. 421 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 2: I imagine John much like the Bengals and duked, but 422 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 2: you're all in on the off season as well. What's 423 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: the easiest way that folks can follow along with everything 424 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: you got going on with eight of Z Sports, we. 425 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 4: Are all in with a capital A and I, and 426 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 4: we are on aight is e Sports YouTube, TikTok, Facebook, 427 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 4: Instagram for all your short term short term content video content, 428 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 4: and we're also on aightes Sports dot com, Baxslatsinsinnati for 429 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 4: all your rooting content. Well, however you want to consume 430 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 4: a is E Sports Cincinnati with me, I'm available on 431 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 4: all platforms. 432 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: Awesome stuff, John, thanks so much for the time today. Man, 433 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 2: Thanks man, Thanks fellas, John Shearon a Z Sports. 434 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 3: How about that love that guy. That's awesome stuff. 435 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 2: Uh, next your talkbacks and then we'll open up the 436 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: phone lines and we got key nickoson coming up at 437 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 2: two o'clock as well at Sincy three sixty ESPN fifteen 438 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 2: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 439 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 5: Hey, Alexa, ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 440 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 3: It's that time for talkbacks. 441 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 6: Press the microphone and record your message for Austin and tone. 442 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 3: Please keep it clean and don't be mean. 443 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: At a sprinkle sprinkle drift drifts. 444 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 3: It's that type of talk bah it is. 445 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 7: It's our favorite tarter scene. 446 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 3: See it's happening now, no doubt about it, so. 447 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 7: Your street. 448 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 3: The beast riding out to cyber I'm a whistling kick today. 449 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 3: I've been whistling a lot. 450 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 2: I can't whistle. I don't know what it is, but 451 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 2: I do like a pore of whistle pig from now 452 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: every now and then, really whistle pig. Okay, I know 453 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 2: you're a bourbon guy. 454 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 8: Yep up, guys, Nick Tahuna and Kentucky. You get to 455 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 8: watch the Pods and Reds last day out here today 456 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 8: before coming back in two weeks here in sunny hot Zona. 457 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 8: Like Ronnie ron said, what we yesterday? Finally got another 458 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 8: win as two in a row. I love seeing winning 459 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 8: in spring training, Tony and Natti drinks winning in the season. 460 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 8: This JJ Ladey got what a signing. I keep telling 461 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 8: you what a signing. I got a new nickname for him. 462 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 8: I'll be in the crowd singing today and every time 463 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 8: he comes aback g a BP. 464 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 3: Hip hop the day. Oh ay, oh hip hop la dad. 465 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 3: I like that. I like it. I got a new 466 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 3: nickname for him, Barry Bonds. Oh you see stay suing people? 467 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 9: Ooh ooh, you're a sued. 468 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 3: And needs the illegal advice check out John Brandon, he 469 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 3: got you. 470 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 10: Yikes, happy sewey Thursday, everybody Bengals interview on prospects at 471 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 10: the combine. 472 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 4: That's good. 473 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 10: They talked to Sonny Styles, David Bailey. Y'all know me, 474 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 10: I'm on a candle down train or someone say caleave downs. 475 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 10: But you know, Bang Bailey, that'd be cool too. And 476 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 10: if all three are gone, go get you Sonny Styles. 477 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 10: You know, a linebacker who knows how to tackle here 478 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 10: in the Natty would be a nice welcome change. 479 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 4: And where are you at? 480 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 10: Click Willie and Hank Hill? 481 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 4: I miss you guys. 482 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 10: Did y'all go together down to the Taco bell for 483 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 10: a ball? 484 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 4: You know? 485 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 3: I feel like Hank will come back around baseball. 486 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: He's a big baseball with all of this happening, you know, 487 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 2: around who the Bengals are meeting with? What we should 488 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: be asking is which of the top prospects have they 489 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 2: not met with that they're going to eventually draft? 490 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 3: Or who who do they meet with that they don't remember? 491 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 3: Meeting with prospects doesn't out so far, so good? Everyone 492 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 3: remembers it. 493 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 4: You got your Tony and Austin. Hey, I was wondering how. 494 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 11: I get ahold of that Eddie Zella guy. 495 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 3: I really want him to be part of my show. 496 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 12: Show and do traffic updates for my show. 497 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 3: So if you. 498 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 12: Could put me in touch with him, that'd be great. 499 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: Oh oh h Craig Craig left one. It's seven seconds 500 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 3: long and it's complete silent. I don't know, not him 501 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 3: in all. 502 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 13: Central Villains, gotta go O'Neil Cruz, yes, Ian Happ, Crow Armstrong, 503 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 13: Kristin Yell. But at least I have respect for Yelich 504 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 13: for being an actually good baseball player. 505 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 3: I kind of respect Hap too. I respect that he 506 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 3: just hits the crap out of the ball every time 507 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 3: he plays an He just nashes reds pitching pa. I 508 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 3: do not like him. He hit that grand slam off 509 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 3: Tony santi On on my birthday last year. Remember, yeah, no, 510 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 3: you don't. You didn't come. I watched it. You didn't come. 511 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 3: I watched it, and you didn't come. H O'Neil Cruz 512 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 3: is a good one. He apparently you can't play the 513 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 3: outfield to save his life. Highlight yesterday. 514 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 2: Apparently he's been all off season work with Kevin Kiirbayer, 515 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: one of the best defensive center fielders of all time. 516 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 3: And he's still out running balls. 517 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 2: Well, you know he's not going to play in many 518 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 2: Sun games. James from Batavia here and. 519 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 3: Just remember anything as possible, anything as possible. Kevin Garnett. Yeah, well, respect, 520 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 3: I love it. Great job. 521 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 2: I kind of forgot we were doing this for a minute. Garnett, 522 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 2: Kevin Gardner. The big ticket, the big ticket. 523 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 1: I think I just heard ponies say, don't say who 524 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: I am and just leave a sports quote and you'll 525 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: figure it out. 526 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 3: I think you're. 527 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: Gonna know who I am anyway, No, I get it, 528 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out who said the quote. You're 529 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: gonna know this one. But it's one of my all 530 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: time favorites. How do you feel about your offensive execution. 531 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: I'm in favor of it. One of the best of 532 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: all time. Brian Kelly is Brian Kelly. But I think 533 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: somebody else said it first. The pushback again, Yeah, so good. 534 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 3: Winning is every time. It's the only thing is that, Uh, 535 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 3: I don't know who said that, Vince Lombardi. That has 536 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 3: to be an old school one. It's I think that's 537 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 3: Vince Lombardi, Vince Lombardi or John Wooden. I want to 538 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 3: say winning isn't everything. It's the only thing. Yeah, hold on, fellows, 539 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 3: Chris and Milford. Here, Chris, y'all, we're talking favorite sports quotes, 540 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 3: and I can't. 541 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 4: Stand a dude ever. He's been out of the league. 542 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 2: But cart wait yeah, Bart Scott Bart Scott. Uh, winning 543 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: isn't everything, It's the only thing. Often attributed to Vince Lombardi, 544 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 2: the phrase was actually popularized by Red Sanders in the 545 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: thirties and forties. So I was right about Lombardi. Everybody 546 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: says Lombardi says it. No one, No one gives Red 547 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 2: any credit. 548 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 14: Quick double dip since sports quotes just came up. 549 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 3: Faux fau foe, faux faux foe. Oh, I don't know 550 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 3: that one. Faux rock fulter foe four four four four 551 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 3: four four. No, like faux fo I'm tipping. I don't 552 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 3: know that one. Uh this this says faux fo fo 553 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 3: is a famous nineteen eighty three NBA playoff prediction by 554 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 3: six er star Moses Malone, forecasting that the team would 555 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 3: sweep all three rounds in the playoffs. Faux faux fo 556 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 3: faux fo. I like that. He nearly called his shot. 557 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 3: They were twelve and one. 558 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 9: It's not the size of the dog in a fight, 559 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 9: but the size of the fight and the dog. 560 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:17,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, that feels like a boxing quote. Yeah, I mean 561 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 2: I've used that one before. I just don't know who 562 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: says it. 563 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, this says Dwight Eisenhower or Mark Twain, really, but 564 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 3: I don't know. 565 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 4: What up Tony? 566 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 5: What UPOUDI from a man Rick Flair, like I said, 567 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 5: to be the man, you gotta beat the man. 568 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 4: Love it. 569 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 3: That's a great one. That's a great one. They're gonna 570 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 3: sit at home all winter because we got the ring, 571 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 3: we got the money, we got everything. Thank you, Chris 572 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 3: Sabo at Fountain Square in nineteen ninety. That's a good one. 573 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 15: But man, if man Leroy down here in Fountain things 574 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 15: that are still going on. Saint John's players can't go 575 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 15: home till they make a field goal. 576 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 3: They're still there. 577 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 15: JJ Bude's moon shot hasn't quite landed Jet and this 578 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 15: just didn't. 579 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 3: Scores another. I thought he was going Yankees, I'm all in. 580 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 13: All the time. 581 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 3: That's my quote. Duke Duke, come after me. I'm a man. Yeah, 582 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 3: I'm not. 583 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 2: A kid, Mike who we thought they were. 584 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 3: And that's why they took the damn field practice practice 585 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 3: as you're ever been a better player than Bill Walton. 586 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 3: I mean, that's just a that's about there's right there. 587 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 2: We threw four interceptions and fumbled once, one of them 588 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: run back for a touchdown, three of them in our 589 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 2: own into the field. 590 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 3: It's inexcusable. Inexcusable. Playoffs, they'll talk about it. Playoffs. Ye 591 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 3: are you serious? Playoffs? I just hope they can win 592 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 3: another game, another game. Yeah, very well done, Joe coach Mora, yep. 593 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 6: I'll tell you one thing. If Austin Elmore doesn't win 594 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 6: a Marconi for that time he was on air telling 595 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 6: the world Tony Pike was fired, then they should just 596 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 6: do away with the award. 597 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 3: I agree, that. 598 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 6: Was the most riveting radio I've ever heard. I thought 599 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 6: Tony was dead. You know who's not dead? Cincinnati bangles 600 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 6: all in as usual. Hey, here's my mount rushmore of 601 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 6: names that sound fake but are not fake. Dante Orleo, 602 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 6: Evan Longoria, Hussein, Joan. 603 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 2: Bom Oh, very well done. Someone claims that I never 604 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: did return. At least that's what people around here may think. 605 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 3: You know, thinking back on that period of time, I 606 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 3: think there was at one point where I did think 607 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 3: you had died, and then I reminded myself that you 608 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 3: were still alive. I think a lot of people around 609 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 3: here know that. I'm back to say that's probably true. Yeah, 610 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 3: a lot of empty promises have been made. 611 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 11: Well, the next person that sees anybody throw anything on 612 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 11: this field, yes, point him out. 613 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 3: We get him out of here. You don't live in Cleveland, Cinnat, 614 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 3: Come on, Sam Weish. 615 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 14: This is James from Batavia again. And this interview was 616 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 14: actually conducted by a friend of the show, garbage. 617 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 15: Whenever I think about Torell Prior, he's just garbage. 618 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: Who said that? No, Terrell Prior, who said Torell Prior 619 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 2: was guarding I don't. 620 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 3: Know that one. Oh oh pac Man Jones, Oh god, 621 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 3: that was that was a friend of the show. Yeah, No, 622 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 3: he's definitely not a friend of the show. You could 623 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 3: describe him as a foe of the show. Oh show foe. 624 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 3: That was a locker room I remember this now, a 625 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 3: locker room interview with pac Man Jones, and he used 626 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 3: the trash can. Yeah, he pointed to trash can. Yep, 627 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 3: it was one of his better moments. 628 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 4: I want the. 629 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 11: Next person that sees anybody for anything on this field 630 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 11: to stand up point out you don't live in Cleveland, 631 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 11: you live in Cincinnati. 632 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 3: Yes, great delivery. 633 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 16: I'm gonna need a little help with what coach when 634 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 16: asked about how he felt about his player's execution, and 635 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 16: he responded he was all for it, and I got 636 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 16: to include a movie because it applies to so many 637 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 16: aspects of life. 638 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 3: But don't think it can only hurt the ball club. 639 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 3: Don't be white. I don't know that one, No. 640 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 4: Man, I mean, I just bleep and walk the guys. 641 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 4: Game's pretty tough. 642 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 3: Homer Bay so obscure, just that. 643 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 12: It's actually coming from somebody on the exact opposite spectrum 644 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 12: of an athlete. 645 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 14: You're putting it, in fact, on the wrong seallable. 646 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 2: What. 647 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 3: I don't know that one either. God, I feel terrible. 648 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 3: It's the Chickster. I have my laptop, I have my phone. 649 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 3: All I need is you. How about that. 650 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 14: JJ bladey left handed power hitter, go red legs. 651 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 2: It's a decent chicken Bresson. It's so good to hear 652 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: from the Chickster man. 653 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 4: Good afternoon, gentlemen. 654 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 17: You know, after seeing the post that mister McAllister had 655 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 17: on Duke's record putting our teams together It kind of 656 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 17: makes you wonder if this is an acceptable standard by 657 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 17: the ownership, then I guess that speaks volumes to the 658 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 17: whole problem. 659 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 4: With the team. I don't know you guys want to. 660 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 3: Correct me on that. I think you kind of nailed it. 661 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 3: I think that's how a lot of Angels fans feel. 662 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 11: Hey, hey, it's JG today and I just hit a baseball. 663 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 5: Oh we to BOMBBA, gonna have a good time. Come on, 664 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 5: come on, gonna have a good time. 665 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god, wow o fat Albert, JJ, Blood. 666 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 15: Tody, Austin, Mike and Independence. 667 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:24,959 Speaker 3: What up? 668 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 15: Dog got a couple of quotes my guy's spoken a 669 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 15: lot over the last few decades. One is I don't 670 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 15: care what they say. I only went on through with sports. 671 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 15: That's gonna be known as someone who was a great father. 672 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 15: And the other I'm married to football baseball? 673 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 3: Is my girlfriend have a good dad? Boys? I don't 674 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 3: know those Was that by the same person? Maybe? Man? 675 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 3: I feel like Bo Jackson said both of those things. 676 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 3: Look it up. I'm married to football. Who gave the no? 677 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 3: Dion Sanders said, did you see both? Probably? I could 678 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 3: see Dion talking about being a father. I don't know 679 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 3: about eating children. 680 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 7: Hey guys, SpongeBob here, Tony Autie, I just simply wanted 681 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 7: to say thank you. I spend most of my days 682 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 7: behind my windshield and outside sales. You guys keep me 683 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 7: company three hours a day. Yeah, I love your show. 684 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 7: Keep up the great work, and honestly. 685 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 2: Ring chimes in, don't think meat, it can only hurt 686 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 2: the ball club. 687 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 3: I don't know that Bull Durham. I never seen that movie. 688 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 18: But there's this Neil Stuffs the Wild Wild Way of. 689 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 14: Hey Tony and naughty Gary del High. 690 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 691 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 14: Hey, Tony's information's all out there from the draft, so 692 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 14: it's only fair Austin that you put out your information 693 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 14: to get drafted. So height, weight, hand size, arm length, 694 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 14: and wingspan. I think that would be a fun topic 695 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 14: for you to figure out. 696 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,959 Speaker 3: Spier from when I was twenty one, I'll happily share 697 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 3: that information. From my measurements out it was probably five 698 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 3: eight two forty. I could probably tell you that. Uh. 699 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 3: I don't know about the hand size, though I feel 700 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 3: like I got decent sized mits. 701 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 18: Oh, it's a glorious day out here at the Palatial State. 702 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,479 Speaker 18: Birds chirp and Warblin's Warblin I'm gonna have to tell 703 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 18: my coworkers at the DJ I'm a force multiplier today. 704 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 18: I think that the Bengals coachers use that words. They're 705 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 18: trying to bamboozle hoodwink the. 706 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 2: Fans, much like as a former Bengal coach once said, 707 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 2: I see better than I hear. I like that they're 708 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 2: all saying that the right things. Yeah, I'll need to 709 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 2: see it. 710 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 3: That talkback came in three times. 711 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 11: Multip Hey, listen, man, I'm worried about you. Just this 712 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 11: skyline order man lights spaghetti to get extra chili is like, 713 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 11: come on, man, what are we doing? Get your play 714 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 11: get your play card. You're your arm wrist band or 715 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 11: arm band thing out of retirement. Go in there and 716 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 11: get you a three way with extra chili juicy and 717 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 11: then get your counties or chili dogs. Are why or 718 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 11: why but sloppy they're getting over on you. 719 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 2: So that's what I was gonna ask. So what is 720 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 2: a more presentable order? Because my father will say three 721 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 2: way extra juicy, I say three way light spaghetti. The 722 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 2: goal is the same, getting more chili. 723 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 3: Don't people say? Wet? Is that that's something people have 724 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 3: never heard that. I'm pretty sure it's like a me 725 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 3: a wet three way three way wet. I'm pretty sure 726 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 3: y'all correct me if I'm wrong. 727 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 2: Like, what do you want to be like, give me 728 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 2: a three way extra juicy. I want to say that. 729 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 3: I think light spaghetti rolls off the tongue bell yep, 730 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 3: thank you, or on the fanaty coach Bill Belichick. 731 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: Yes, Hey, so I heard uh you said Brian Kelly 732 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: said it, and maybe he did, but you're right. 733 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 14: Somebody said it first. 734 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: It was John McKay coaching oh in fourteen Tampa Bay. 735 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 3: Buccaney is back in my day. That's right. The team 736 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 3: was terrible. Craig has has tried to leave us another 737 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 3: one and it is again silent. Craig, I think you 738 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 3: need to allow your microphone permission to be used on 739 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio. 740 00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 19: Appy as Ryan from Mainfield, here's you missed the shots? 741 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 2: Come on, Michael Scott, No, dude, what that's the great one, 742 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 2: Wayne Gretzky, that's Michael Scott. 743 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 14: I'm just a big Harry American winning machine. 744 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 3: You know that sounds like a that's got to be 745 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 3: a wrestling quote, right, I would think that's got to 746 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 3: be up your. 747 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 15: Alley everybody's got a plan until they get punched in 748 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 15: the face. 749 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 3: Mike Tyson good one. 750 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 14: The best there is, the best there was, and the 751 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 14: best there ever will be. 752 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 3: I say that a lot, but I don't know where 753 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,919 Speaker 3: it comes from. I'm still trying to figure out the Harry. 754 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 12: There was a kicker in college that told his coach 755 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 12: that he was afraid. 756 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 5: He was nervous when he was kicking around him. The 757 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 5: coach told him, I hate to tell you this song 758 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 5: I will be. 759 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 3: At every game first feels like an Urban Meyer game. 760 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 2: The hit mad at Heart is the best there is, 761 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 2: the best there was, and the best there ever will be. 762 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 3: It's me or Smith Patricia. 763 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 14: That's all it is. 764 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 3: Grace under would how that go? 765 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 20: We're talking about practice, not a game from all, not 766 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:11,959 Speaker 20: to the game. 767 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 14: We're talking about practice. 768 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 3: Man, I'm supposed to be the franchise player and we 769 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 3: sit up here talking about practice. 770 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 20: Practice Alan I nothing cleanses the soul like getting the 771 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 20: hell kicked out of it. And by the way, the 772 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 20: quote attributed to Brian what's his name was first uttered 773 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,760 Speaker 20: by John McKay. 774 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 3: Yes, that's crankul. 775 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 12: Hey, fellas have be Friday Eve. It's DJ froum. In 776 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 12: honor of my Hornets being at the pace of tonight, 777 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 12: I'll do this quote. That wasn't Michael Jordan out there tonight. 778 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 14: That was God disguises Michael Jordan's tonight. 779 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 4: You guys have a great days. 780 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 3: That's a good one. You know what's crazy, I call 781 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 3: him Black Jesus. 782 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 2: For a while, I actually looked at tickets to go 783 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 2: to that game tonight. Really just be like, Wilder is 784 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 2: so into basketball. Yeah, he's never been to an NBA game, 785 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 2: And I'm like, man, the Hornets are kind of a 786 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 2: fun team. 787 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 3: You should have went when the Bulls were there. You 788 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 3: could have got them dirt cheap. 789 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 2: Well, I think that. I look the other night, it 790 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 2: was like eleven dollars ticket. Yeah, like this would be 791 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 2: a perfect But what I figured out is Indy's way 792 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 2: too far to be able to drive and come back. 793 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 3: That's true, Yeah, Indy is I mean, that's a really 794 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 3: long laive. Yeah, and the combines there and that's that's 795 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 3: so fun here, So come on, Marsian Marshan Lynch, thank you. 796 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 9: The dog in the fight quote came from Archie Griffin. 797 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 9: I'm sure he probably borrowed it from uh Dwight Eisenhower so. 798 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:41,720 Speaker 3: Well as a winner of a Archie Gris Archie Griffin 799 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 3: three two one. In twenty thirteen, the ot Man won 800 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 3: the Archie Griffin Sportsmanship Award from the OHSAA. I should 801 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 3: have known that quote. 802 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 4: I was so fat and nasty. 803 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 12: I would eat a tub ice cream every hour of 804 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:57,479 Speaker 12: every day. 805 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 3: I was just so fat and nasty. I don't know 806 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 3: that is. 807 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 12: The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the 808 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 12: few or the one. 809 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 3: I feel like we're getting into war. Mike Tyson was 810 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 3: the quote before about that nasty. 811 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 14: So. 812 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:24,439 Speaker 19: I was braided by a Skyline employee one time when 813 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 19: I asked for a three way wet oh, and she said, 814 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 19: do you want it wet or do you want it saucy? 815 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 14: Oh? 816 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 4: Well, what's the difference? She said, wet it is just 817 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 4: extra liquid sauce. 818 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 3: Saucy is extra chili. I was confused, man, Interesting, see, 819 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 3: I feel like, what's the difference of the chili and 820 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,879 Speaker 3: the sauce. It's got to be a location by location thing, Okay, 821 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 3: Like the things that people say on the West Side 822 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 3: are not the same things we say over here, Like 823 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 3: it varies on location. It has to be all right, 824 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 3: we're done, we're out of time. You can go when 825 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:03,800 Speaker 3: we get packed. 826 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 2: Do you think I could I could go and I 827 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 2: could take him to the game tonight in Indie and 828 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 2: still make it back tonight. 829 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 9: No. 830 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 3: I mean, clearly from a logistical standard, just doesn't want 831 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 3: and he's. 832 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 2: Not close enough to be able to go and do 833 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 2: anything there. 834 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 3: You're right. 835 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 2: Uh, we'll take a break. You said touch and go 836 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,280 Speaker 2: or two, So one segment. We're gonna do one segment. 837 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 2: Wouldn't we come back? ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 838 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:30,959 Speaker 11: Hey, meet a strong wine. 839 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,720 Speaker 4: I gotta have some fun tonight. 840 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 2: This welcome back sin C three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty 841 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station. Kegan Nickison, he's at the Combine. Also 842 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 2: at the Combine Bearcat Journal dot com. Uh, he'll join 843 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 2: us at the top of our three We'll talk about 844 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,280 Speaker 2: those Bearcats at the Combine. We'll talk about his overall 845 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 2: Combine experience to really give Austin listeners a chance to 846 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 2: feel like what it would what it would sound like 847 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 2: to have boots on the ground there at the combin. 848 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 3: I think it's cool that Chad Brindle was able to 849 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 3: make sure that his employee got to Indianapolis to cover 850 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 3: the NFL combine percent from a bear Cat's perspective, hundred percent. 851 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,720 Speaker 2: I think that's pretty cool and that's important stuff. Yeah, 852 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 2: it's important stuff to be there and be a part 853 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 2: of that. Before we get to Keegan, I'll remind folks 854 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 2: we are twenty eight days away from opening day here 855 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 2: in the great city of Cincinnati. And when you think 856 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 2: of twenty eight and you think of the Cincinnati Reds, 857 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 2: you may think of names like Veda Pinson, No Chris Heisey, Dude, 858 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 2: Austin Kerns, Lenny Harris, Oh my gosh, Lenny, what about 859 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 2: that one fateful season where Paul Konerko was a Red 860 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,879 Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say that one Maleman, Nope, 861 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 2: it's Mo's guy. 862 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 3: Nope. 863 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 2: Kyle Losch remember Kyle. Yeah, that dude had a really 864 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:52,240 Speaker 2: bad temper. 865 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,839 Speaker 3: Yep Edwin and Carnacion. I'll tell you what. He went 866 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 3: on to have an awesome, big, real career, but when 867 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,800 Speaker 3: he played for the Reds, he could not field the baseball. 868 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,919 Speaker 3: And when he could field the baseball, he couldn't throw 869 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 3: it across the infield. One Vladimir Ballantine, Wow, Disco Anthony 870 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 3: diska Fani. Yeah, what about Tommy fam Remember he slapped 871 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 3: a smack out of SMA Fantasy Football? 872 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? 873 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 3: Who was a Bellinger? 874 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 14: Was it? 875 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 3: I forget who it was? Yeah, yeah, I think it 876 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 3: was him. 877 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 2: I mean, really, who's who? If I'm I would have 878 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 2: to I would have to give this today to Austin Curtains. 879 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it to one of the nasty boys, 880 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 2: Randy Myers. That's a tough one to go against as well. 881 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 2: What you mean while he posts too? I mean Wally 882 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,800 Speaker 2: Post was a monster? Yeah, what about Jake Eisenhardt? 883 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 3: Couldn't tell you anything? The first Red to wear number 884 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 3: twenty eight was Benny Frye. Okay back in nineteen thirty four. 885 00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 3: Who's wearing twenty eight this year? A you Haanio? There 886 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 3: you go? 887 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, Nick Martinez head Dawn did for the last two 888 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 2: seasons in Cincinnati, boots on the ground at the NFL's. 889 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 3: At Tampa Bay Ray Now by the way, Yeah, tomorrow 890 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,399 Speaker 3: we get to celebrate your guy, maybe your favorite Red 891 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 3: of all time, Trevor Bauer. We'll take a break. 892 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 2: Um wow, I'm just now I'm getting ahead of myself. 893 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 2: Do you know Bower's run. 894 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 3: That twenty twenty season was some of the most fun 895 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,280 Speaker 3: I've ever had watching the Reds. 896 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 2: Do you know that a Red has not worn the 897 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 2: number twenty four since who wore it? 898 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:42,720 Speaker 3: Tony? 899 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,879 Speaker 2: There you go in nineteen eighty six. We'll take a break, 900 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 2: we'll come back and we'll go to the combine. We're 901 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 2: not going to the combine, but we'll go to someone. 902 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 3: At the combine. 903 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 2: Keegan nickoson Next, ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station