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Speaker 1: Band recket Reckett.

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Speaker 2: I'm here, Hey everybody, Welcome back to another episode of

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Speaker 2: The Tailgate, brought to you by Ticketmaster. I am the

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Speaker 2: host of the show si Onminton, and joining me is

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Speaker 2: the co host of the show, the Great Chad Daniels

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Speaker 2: and Chaddy.

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Speaker 1: D Hello, boy, oh boy, what.

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Speaker 2: A difference a week can make.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you. You know, we talk about it all

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Speaker 1: the time. We're not a review show, but I would

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Speaker 1: just like to spend the next half hour reviewing the

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Speaker 1: beauty of that last game. I know we can't, but yikes,

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Speaker 1: what a difference a week makes, is completely true. Got

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Speaker 1: some people back, got some people that were replacing the

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Speaker 1: people that we're out that are still making great plays.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it's looking up.

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Speaker 2: It's looking up. And I talked to a lot of

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Speaker 2: people last week going into the Lions game that were

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Speaker 2: basically on armageddon. Watch the O'Connell run to this point

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Speaker 2: has been so successful and has you. I don't know

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Speaker 2: that in the team's eyes they look at it this way,

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Speaker 2: but from a national media and a fan standpoint, they

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Speaker 2: have overachieved kind of at every turn. I think when

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Speaker 2: they had that big first year with Kirk. I don't

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Speaker 2: think anyone saw him doing that. When they lost Kirk

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Speaker 2: and they brought Dobbs in and they were starting Mullins,

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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone saw him succeeding in any way.

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Speaker 2: Yet they had that crazy Atlanta game in a little

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Speaker 2: run when Darnald came here and JJ gets hurt. No

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Speaker 2: one sees that coming, so well, that's not true.

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Speaker 1: I actually did see it coming. But it's fine.

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Speaker 2: I think this was the first time that there was

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Speaker 2: the fan base was faced with it not going not

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Speaker 2: just the way they hoped it had, but better than

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Speaker 2: the way they hoped it had.

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Speaker 1: And man, I.

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Speaker 2: Had some friends on ledges and to come out and

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Speaker 2: see the team respond, it's almost like they played to

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Speaker 2: prove all that worry wrong. And I know that's not

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Speaker 2: how it works, but like everything that people worried about

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Speaker 2: that last game. Yeah, and that feels really good to

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Speaker 2: walk forward from that.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I mean, I have a friend who is

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Speaker 1: a comedian that lives in Detroit, and we made a

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Speaker 1: side bet on some promotional things and he goes, all right,

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Speaker 1: nine point five points is the spread. So that's what

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Speaker 1: you get and I go, I looked him right in

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Speaker 1: the face, and I go, you keep those points. I

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Speaker 1: don't need them, not this week.

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Speaker 2: So basically, what you bet is it's like one of

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Speaker 2: those things where mayors are like, if we win, I'll

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Speaker 2: wear your jersey. But you guys bet promoting each other's

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Speaker 2: stand up material.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. When I go to Detroit, now he has

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Speaker 1: to promote for an entire week stories on all his stuff.

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Speaker 2: And that is the guy who was on this show

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Speaker 2: last week. No, Zach Martin. It's not the great Zach Martinez.

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Speaker 2: Who else do we know that's a Detroit.

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Speaker 1: For Well, this is actually so I say, from Detroit,

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Speaker 1: but actually from across the state in Grand Rapids. But

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sh.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I know who we're talking about. Let's shift to

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Speaker 2: the Ravens and let me give you Let's start this

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Speaker 2: out with I think arguably the weirdest stat in Viking history.

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Speaker 2: I know that's dramatic. I know you think I'm over

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Speaker 2: the top, but let me lay it down for you.

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Speaker 2: You are, okay, The Vikings have played the Baltimore Ravens

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Speaker 2: seven times. They have won three of those games in

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Speaker 2: those three seasons that they won those three games every

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Speaker 2: single time they went to the NFC Championship. Interesting, they

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Speaker 2: have lost four times in the four seasons in which

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Speaker 2: they lost those four times. At the end of the year,

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Speaker 2: the head coach was relieved of its duties. Oh so

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Speaker 2: every time we play the Ravens, just historically, Yeah, we

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Speaker 2: either go to the NFC Championship or we fire our

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Speaker 2: coach and Chad, can I tell you something?

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Speaker 1: Uh huh, God, damn.

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Speaker 2: I don't see us firing last year's coach of the year.

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Speaker 2: So I think whatever we felt against the Lions.

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Speaker 1: It feels good.

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Speaker 2: Pump pump, pump it up. I think we're going to

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Speaker 2: the moon. I this is what we in the business

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Speaker 2: call a trend, and I would love to hop on

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Speaker 2: this trend.

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Speaker 1: I've already hopped on the trend. I can't wait. I'll

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Speaker 1: see you guys at the NFC Championship game. I will

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Speaker 1: be there, of course. Yeah. I'm excited to watch that game.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch them win. I'm excited to watch

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Speaker 1: them continue to win. But the fact is so Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson is back.

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Speaker 2: Mr Jackson is back. He's very good.

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Speaker 1: Which, by the way, I got to tell you something

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Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like I could be a

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Speaker 1: GM because I when he he got injured, I said,

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Speaker 1: you have to have a quarterback that can move because

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Speaker 1: this offense is based on a running quarterback. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: work for the quarterback to sit back in the pocket

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Speaker 1: this particular offense. The first week they had a pocket

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Speaker 1: pass or guy got murder murdered. Second week they found

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Speaker 1: for GM, no big deal.

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Speaker 2: Can I tell you something that I'm very confident in. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think you might be. Though you could, you would

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Speaker 2: probably be the worst GM in the history of professional sports.

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Speaker 1: That's not true at all, because I Hey, you want

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Speaker 1: a GM that plays with his mind and not his heart, Well,

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Speaker 1: nice try, loser. I'm in there every day making decisions

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Speaker 1: based on my relationships, based on my love of the game.

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Speaker 1: I use my brain zero percent of this.

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Speaker 2: You're leading with your heart. You're a GM that leads

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Speaker 2: with his heart.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of leading with a body part, Hey, you want

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Speaker 1: to tackle Derrick Henry. Watch his belly button. He crops

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Speaker 1: his shirts. He makes it easy for you. I'm saying

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Speaker 1: the body can't go where the belly button isn't going

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Speaker 1: quit trying to tackle people on their shoulders. Look at

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Speaker 2: That's an alla ball thing. I had a coach that

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Speaker 2: was a real Bobby Knight type when I was younger.

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Speaker 1: Throwing chairs, all right.

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Speaker 2: The main thing that I took from him was he said,

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Speaker 2: watch the stomach. The body can't go anywhere without the stomach.

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Speaker 2: The stomach never lies.

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Speaker 1: And actually what also happens is then the player that

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Speaker 1: why do you keep looking at my belly button? And

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Speaker 1: they're out of their game. Now. It's like a head game,

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Speaker 1: but it works. But all I'm saying is you can't

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Speaker 1: You gotta tackle his belly button.

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Speaker 2: It'll be a really good test, and I think there's

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Speaker 2: to that because I do you know, we do a

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Speaker 2: little bit of history on this show, and this matchup

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Speaker 2: also has one of my in addition to a crazy

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Speaker 2: at Hilarities in Cleveland, Sure for a week of shows,

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Speaker 2: the Great Hilarities opening for the Great Jake Johansens. This

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Speaker 1: Career, uh huh.

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Speaker 2: And I sat at a bar all by myself and

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Speaker 2: watched the twenty thirteen Ravens Vikings game and if you recall,

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Speaker 2: we lost it. But that was that absurd game where

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Speaker 2: there was such horrible snow that the field crew had

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Speaker 2: and seven seconds left, Dennis Pitta scores a touchdown, the

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Speaker 2: retake the lead. Then Corderyo Patterson scores on a seventy

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Speaker 2: with only nine seconds left, the Ravens win. I haven't

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Speaker 2: seen every football game in the history of football I

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that has to be about the craziest two

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Speaker 2: in the snow. Guys were sliding, guys were diving.

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Speaker 1: That's what made those plays possible, is that in the snow,

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Speaker 1: once you get going forward, it is so hard because

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Speaker 1: the greatest professional game probably in the snow, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: throw one little amateur at you. Ninety one Cleveland Elementary

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Speaker 1: immediately Eric Johnson throwing a bomb to excuse me, but

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm not saying it was the greatest professional snow

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, crazy is two minutes. No doubt Before we.

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Speaker 2: about a little bit about Baltimore and about the matchup.

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Speaker 2: in this memory for me, and talk about Cordero Patterson.

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Speaker 2: That game, he gets five receptions, one hundred and forty

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Speaker 2: the other day. What an interesting, amazing career where most

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Speaker 2: I think it was it's tough to come to our team,

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Speaker 2: time All Pro. He wins, he goes and he wins

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl with Bill Belichick. And you can't be

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Speaker 2: right of course, And then he has this amazing second

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Speaker 2: he's so good at running back. Yeah, I just in retrospect,

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Speaker 2: Harvin are kind of like the great what ifs for

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Speaker 2: me if they'd have been in a different time period

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Speaker 1: Patterson is the faith no More of football, right, faith

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Speaker 1: no More? What is it? It's it. They were Limp

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Speaker 1: Biscuit before Limp Biscuit, but nobody knew where to put them,

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Speaker 1: so that's the same way I feel about Patterson. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: tell you coming off the Lions win, Chad, I know,

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Speaker 2: and JJ McCarthy, let's just let's start right there and

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Speaker 2: then I'll come back to this, right just he just

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Speaker 1: They didn't get compounded. That's I think that's the huge difference.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you what I loved. He scores

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Speaker 2: And it felt like I'm not here to say it

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Speaker 2: What's so interesting to me is, you know, the Bears

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's going to be an exciting game,

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Speaker 2: Well, I want to talk about you know, everybody talks

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Speaker 2: popping seven eight, nine, thirty one yards, very very fun.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Mason, we all know, is an unbelievable runner. Aaron

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Speaker 2: And can I throw since we're in a positive mood,

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Speaker 2: I think, and I believe, Donovan Jackson isn't just like

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Speaker 1: The right direction on This is what I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: Let's do the last one, then, dude, let's talk about

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Speaker 2: the Gink. Yes, let's talk about old Andy Van Gink.

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Speaker 2: If Brian Flores could build a guy for a role,

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Speaker 1: He's connecting the dots very quickly.

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Speaker 2: You just can't knock down that many balls and not

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Speaker 2: that is what I'm pumped about. We're coming against a

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Speaker 2: It's like you said, are we going to get what

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Speaker 1: We are who we thought we are.

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Speaker 2: We are who we thought we are, Chatty Daddy or

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Speaker 2: I thought we were. Let's do predictions. Okay, we're doing

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Speaker 2: game prediction. Yeah, we're doing player prediction, and then we're

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Speaker 2: doing Chad prediction because I believe is this a home game?

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Speaker 1: It is, and I believe you will be there. I

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Speaker 1: Game prediction. It's tough because Lamar Jackson is back, yes,

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Speaker 1: Anytime you have two running backs basically back there, but

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Speaker 1: to go Baltimore Ravens twenty four, Minnesota Vikings seven hundred

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Speaker 2: That's a little closer than I thought you would have it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I just don't. I know he's back. I've got Baltimore

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Speaker 2: at seventeen. Okay, Vikings at one hundred and twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, who you got for player? Well, player,

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Speaker 1: I'm going the Van Gank. You're going ganky, So I'm

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Speaker 2: Okay, one of the two. So a lot of a

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go that. I think I think we're on

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Speaker 1: Chad prediction is you're not going to be able to

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Speaker 1: wear your Minnesota frost stuff to this game. I understand

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Speaker 1: it's purple. I understand they've won the only two Cups

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Speaker 2: And I'm going to predict that a lot of how

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Speaker 1: Maybe?

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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm surprised they didn't put spoiler alert in or

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Speaker 1: you not to be teetering. What are you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm the Teeter King.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which, by the way, I've seen that movie and

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Speaker 1: it's different.

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Speaker 2: So thank you to everybody for joining from the Teeter

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