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Speaker 1: eleven thirty one oh three five FM, as we cover

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Speaker 1: a number of different pieces this morning, the onslaught of

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Speaker 1: leftist propaganda. It all reeks of desperation, this one here

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Speaker 1: pedaling the dangerous assumption that only the lefts are the

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Speaker 1: end all be all of reality. On Operation Metro Surge,

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Speaker 1: our sports owners choked. Here's how they can redeem themselves.

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Speaker 1: Written by a trio I call the trio of Dunci's listen.

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Speaker 1: They're entitled to their opinions. It doesn't mean that they're correct,

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Speaker 1: but that's the assumption that they make.

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Speaker 2: In this.

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Speaker 1: Mass Federal agents occupied our state, killed citizens, disappeared members

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Speaker 1: of the community. Minnesota Pro sports team owners state on

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Speaker 1: the sidelines. This unprecedented moment demands more of the team owners.

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Speaker 1: Why they issued a statement They addressed it along with

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Speaker 1: Minnesota based companies, citing recent challenges facing our state, calling

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Speaker 1: for immediate de escalation of tensions. That was for everybody,

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Speaker 1: I mean anybody paying attention to that. You could take

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Speaker 1: that to mean ICE was going too far in their

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Speaker 1: lawful enforcement of our laws here in the United States.

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Speaker 1: Could also mean the obstructors, the observers, however you want.

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Speaker 1: The insurrectionists may have been going too far on their ends.

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Speaker 1: We should de escalate everything. But that's not good enough

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Speaker 1: for these leftists. They have so little to argue in

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Speaker 1: terms of policy. They have to get every single entity.

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Speaker 1: And this assumed liberalism mentality comes into play now in

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Speaker 1: this peace they lay out, now is the time for

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Twins and every Minnesota pro team to find

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Speaker 1: the courage to speak up for their communities when we

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Speaker 1: are under attack. They can start by issuing a statement

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Speaker 1: that calls for bringing home everyone who was illegally taken

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Speaker 1: to other states, including the children imprisoned in horrible conditions

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Speaker 1: in places like Texas. So, first of all, those are

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Speaker 1: false assumptions based on the children. Children are taken in

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Speaker 1: by law enforcement all the time when their parents go

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Speaker 1: and break the law.

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Speaker 2: And do they really mean.

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Speaker 1: To say that the sex offender, the child sex offender,

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Speaker 1: the murderer, the drug peddler, the domestic spousal abuser, that

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Speaker 1: all those individuals should be brought back to Minnesota. Okay,

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Speaker 1: dropping the charges against the peaceful constitutional observers and prosecute

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Speaker 1: ice and federal agents for the illegal practices during the operation,

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Speaker 1: making a lot of assumptions that simply aren't true. If

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Speaker 1: there were charges against an individual and the evidence is

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Speaker 1: presented that they didn't go and break the law, yeah

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Speaker 1: they should be set free. Individuals who were detained were

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Speaker 1: allegedly going and breaking the law, and they'll have to

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Speaker 1: go through the process of a court to determine from

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Speaker 1: a judge how they're going to be held accountable or

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Speaker 1: let go. And the same thing rings true for ICE

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Speaker 1: and federal agents. They say illegal practices took place during

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Speaker 1: the operation. But these three yahoos aren't judges, they're not

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Speaker 1: law enforcement. It's not up to them to make a

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Speaker 2: It's up to the courts.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, if ICE or federal agents did act illegal,

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Speaker 1: they should be held accountable. But this is what they're

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Speaker 1: demanding that our sports outlets go and do they want

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Speaker 1: the Twins and every other the pro franchise to call

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Speaker 1: for dropping charges against observers, stopping funding for an ICE

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Speaker 1: agency that has proven violent and unaccountable, no new increased

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Speaker 1: cooperation between local law enforcement and ICE agreements. They want

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Speaker 1: all of our sports teams to call for this. Let's

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Speaker 2: I started this off talking.

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Speaker 1: About the disrespected trucker at the Minnesota Frost Game and

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Speaker 1: individuals riding around on zamboni's with banners and signs protesting ice.

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Speaker 1: Apparently they didn't commandeer this zamboni. They were allowed to

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Speaker 3: They didn't commandeer the zamboni. They let people ride on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really stupid.

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Speaker 3: Why you'd ever want to do that, But they have

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Speaker 3: a seat on there for some adoring fans the way

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Speaker 2: I'm a problem.

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Speaker 1: If they want to have people right around on zamboni,

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Speaker 1: they shouldn't. They certainly shouldn't be taking political stances on

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Speaker 1: it at a sport event. That's not like sports teams

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Speaker 3: By the way, Hey John, people use sports as an

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Speaker 2: And work and you name it. Women's sports.

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Speaker 3: Professional sports don't understand this, and they're the most political

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Speaker 3: They want to grow their sport, they're alienating a lot

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Speaker 1: Well, and this is why so many of the sports

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Speaker 1: teams do end up taking a leftist stance on so

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Speaker 1: many issues. Now, granted, there are those within the organizations

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Speaker 1: They need to continue to be courageous in taking stances

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Speaker 1: But that in and of itself tells you how the

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Speaker 1: typically the Minnesota Pro sports franchises, the teams usually do

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Speaker 2: That tells you.

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Speaker 1: That this was an issue that had a basis on

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Speaker 1: both sides of the argument, where there was a level

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Speaker 1: what happens, Oh, it's not enough for y'all who's like this.

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Speaker 1: They act like a bunch of bullies. You need to

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Speaker 1: do what we told you to go and do. The

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Speaker 1: activities on team properties, from stadiums to practice facilities. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they kind of already do that.

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Speaker 4: My response, as the owner of a professional sports one app.

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Speaker 2: What can I do to the wide securities for the communities.

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Speaker 5: I would just tell them we do it every game

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Speaker 2: That's what we do. We protect our customers. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: a great point.

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Speaker 6: Hey, John Mike from Minneapolis. I don't understand why you

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Speaker 6: call these things pieces.

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Speaker 2: Huh.

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Speaker 6: You should be adding a little more to it, pieces

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Speaker 6: of garbage, pieces of trash, or just playing good old

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Speaker 6: fashioned toilet paper that these liberal writers create.

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Speaker 1: Hey, thank you for not going for the obvious target there.

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Speaker 1: I can see the look of fear on Sam's face

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Speaker 4: I was just sweating that one out for second, John.

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Speaker 1: I actually read the transcript on that one prior to win,

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Speaker 1: I prior to when I would and played it. The

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Speaker 1: last couple of sentences in this piece of trash just

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Speaker 1: or just dribble if children are being taken, families torn

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Speaker 1: streets again, no context to any of these situations or

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Speaker 1: claims or concerns. It's time our Minnesota sports teams stand

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Speaker 1: with the brave people of Minnesota and demand justice and

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Speaker 1: safety for their fans and state.

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Speaker 2: No man.

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Speaker 1: Hat tip to the Minnesota Twins and all the other

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Speaker 1: sports franchises, the teams, and the business owners for taking

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Speaker 1: this middle of the road stance when Operation Metro Surge

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Speaker 2: By the way, this just came out.

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Speaker 1: I mean the operations over, but they are so desperate

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Speaker 1: to continue to capital on it. Let's get to a

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Speaker 2: Hey, what happened to that Democrats? No more kicks?

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Speaker 5: Sure solids to me like the King would be saying,

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Speaker 5: you shall agree with us, Jeff, sports owners shall follow

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Speaker 5: job to our leftist ideas.

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Speaker 7: The changes decrees.

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Speaker 5: That sports owners must back us in our fight against hiking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, take your changes.

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Speaker 7: And you know what you can do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all very fascist. It's bullying our way or

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Speaker 8: Well, so the job for team owners is to compile

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Speaker 8: a team that is entertaining enough to keep the stadium

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Speaker 8: filled and keep selling ads on the television. That's the

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Speaker 8: job for the team owner, no more, no less. That's it.

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Speaker 9: The Left has to call out specific companies or businesses

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Speaker 9: because if they call out businesses collectively, the businesses are stronger.

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Speaker 9: They need to pick on individual organizations and find the

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Speaker 9: make their story and their headlines.

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Speaker 2: Keeping with the theme.

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Speaker 1: And I warned you at the start of the show,

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of propaganda pedaling this one coming

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Speaker 1: from the Minnesota Star Tribune Karen Tolkienan, Karin's the appropriate name.

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Speaker 1: Christian Nationalists are rising in rural Minnesota, but they don't

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Speaker 1: speak for all Christians. Okay, So I'll let you know

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Speaker 1: what Christian Nationalists is actually code for. Will provide a

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Speaker 1: few details from this editorial, and will continue to hear

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Speaker 1: from you. Your talk Back in the Day is coming

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Speaker 2: Hey, good morning guys.

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Speaker 10: John whoever allowed that story to see the light of

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Speaker 10: day is the actual bad guy here. It is clear

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Speaker 10: that those three goofballs.

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Speaker 2: Are not in tune with reality.

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Speaker 10: Definitions of words is not a thing that they keep

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Speaker 10: up on as far as the sports thing goes. The

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Speaker 10: way you save a sport you love is you turn

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Speaker 10: it off and when they come asking and begging for

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Speaker 10: you to view again, you say, stop the political nonsense

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Speaker 10: and just play games and then turn.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, there's a solution there. If that's the one

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Speaker 1: you take, I can respect that. I had a couple

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Speaker 1: get out of it and what kind of impact does

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Speaker 1: it have on my life? Like is my experience being

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Speaker 1: ruined because of the level of wokeness that a particular

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Speaker 1: from all of it, it's kind of unavoidable. Now, if

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Speaker 1: it impacts you in your level of enjoyment, then yeah,

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Speaker 1: turn it off. If you're able to blow past it

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Speaker 2: That's okay too, That's what I do. But I'm also a.

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Speaker 1: Massive NASCAR fan, So the biggest issue that I have

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Speaker 1: is choosing drivers that end up not doing well. What

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Speaker 1: certainly happened yesterday, Holy Cat, I was roughly a rough

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Speaker 1: race to watch, all right. Keep in with the theme

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Speaker 1: this morning. There's a an article from Daily Wire that

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Speaker 1: I'll share after I share.

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Speaker 2: With you the details from the Minnesota Start Tribune.

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Speaker 1: Essentially, it lays out exactly what I'm about to share

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Speaker 1: with you from the Minnesota Star Tribune. The title of

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Speaker 1: speaking the same language, and the headline reads is this

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Speaker 1: and then we'll dive into this other piece. In recent years,

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Speaker 1: accusations of white Christian nationalism have become a staple of

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Speaker 11: Okay, so pay your dues and bend the knee to

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Speaker 12: Hey John Jim from Southeast Minnesota. Good morning. I'm holding

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Speaker 1: Churches, and they're not the most popular churches for that

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Speaker 1: very reason. The conversation should be around those churches, why

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Speaker 1: they're not popular, how come they haven't grown in size,

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Speaker 1: how they twist and distort the faith. But of course

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Speaker 1: that's not the way that this is presented, because there

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Speaker 1: are agendas that play. Todd makes a really good point too,

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Speaker 1: Lauren John.

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Speaker 13: Todd and Saint Paul, and don't say nothing about the

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Speaker 13: Islamis that screamed ala alah akbar, God'd be great before

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Speaker 13: they blow somebody up and kill a bunch of people.

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Speaker 13: But yet they complain about Christians. Make it makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Well, you don't even have to go to those extremes.

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Speaker 1: I mean Sohran mom. Donnie I posted a video with

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Speaker 1: commentary up just recently held basically a religious ceremony inside

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Speaker 1: of his mayoral offices in New York City with the

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Speaker 1: prayer carpets. Some group of Muslims camed and they talked

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Speaker 1: about their faith. Listen, that's you people elected zran Mam

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Speaker 1: Donnie and the people on New York don't have a

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Speaker 1: problem with it whatever, But if you had something like

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Speaker 1: that or you know, I don't even need to do

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Speaker 1: that example. This is exactly what she's pointing to in

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Speaker 1: the piece, is how there are individuals like Pete Hegseth

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Speaker 1: last week when he was giving an update on Operation

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Speaker 1: Epic Fury and talked about the will of God.

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Speaker 2: It was a brave moment for him. That's what she's

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Speaker 2: mad about.

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Speaker 1: How dare you go and actually talk about what the

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Speaker 1: Bible says specifically and be on the right. Let's get

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Speaker 1: to a few more of your thoughts, and I want

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Speaker 1: to get to this Daily Wire article.

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Speaker 2: Hey, good morning again, John.

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Speaker 10: You know I agree with with Karen Tolkienan on this

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Speaker 10: one thing. I too would like to help people who

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Speaker 10: are hurting. But if somebody says that they're hurting and

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Speaker 10: what they need is a free butterfinger candy bar every day,

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Speaker 10: I sit that person down and say, no, you're wrong,

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Speaker 10: you're not gonna get it, grow up, and then move on.

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Speaker 10: Karen doesn't seem willing to do that.

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Speaker 2: Adam.

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Speaker 1: I know what church service you partook in over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: It was the butterfinger that gave it away, because that

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Speaker 1: was mentioned in the one that I watched. When faith

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Speaker 1: and politics start speaking the same language, this was something

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Speaker 1: that I actually wanted to talk about on the show.

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Speaker 1: This came from about a week ago because I've seen

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Speaker 1: this move by Democrats. You look at James tell Rica,

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Speaker 1: who I mentioned a moment ago, frequently presents his progressive

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Speaker 1: politics as a natural expression of Christianity. He argues that

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Speaker 1: his policy views on immigration, economic justice, social issues are

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Speaker 1: flowing from his faith. But if you've watched any of

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Speaker 1: what he has to say, he tries to use scripture

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Speaker 1: to justify everything on the list of the liberal agenda.

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Speaker 1: Kentucky Governor Andy Basheer recently said on the View that

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Speaker 1: he supports transgender treatments for minors because his faith tells

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Speaker 1: him that all children are children of God. And so

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Speaker 1: I've seen, more so than in recent memory, the Left

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Speaker 1: going and embracing religion as a means to go and

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Speaker 1: push forward on their policies. I believe that it's partly

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Speaker 1: because of what I've said on the show, and that

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Speaker 1: is they can't talk about the actual issues anymore, so

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Speaker 1: they have to figure out other ways to bring people

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Speaker 1: on board to their policies without actually zeroing in on

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Speaker 1: the issues. And in this case, they're attempting to go

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Speaker 1: and distort what the Bible says to fit their narratives.

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Speaker 1: The author of the Daily Wire article says, these examples

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Speaker 1: point to a broader shift in American politics. Religious language

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Speaker 1: is increasingly being deployed as a political tool across the

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Speaker 1: ideological spectrum. Religion has always played a role in American

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Speaker 1: political life, but the modern left has only recently begun

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Speaker 1: invoking it with the same frequency and explicitness that Republicans

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Speaker 1: have long employed. Hence, why you have articles like I

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Speaker 1: Shared a moment Ago from Karen Tolkeenan and The Star Tribune.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason this religious strategy is re emerging, specifically

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Speaker 1: on the left. Appeals to concepts such as equity, fairness,

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Speaker 1: and social justice can persuade, but they rarely command the

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Speaker 1: same instinctive authority that religious language holds. Appealing to Jesus

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Speaker 1: or scripture places political arguments within the moral framework that

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Speaker 1: many Americans, even those who are not particularly religious, still

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Speaker 1: recognize and respect. Democrats, however, rarely receive the same criticism

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Speaker 1: for doing so. For example, when James tall Rico says

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Speaker 1: Christians have a duty to take their faith from the

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Speaker 1: sanctuary to the streets, much like the same way that

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Speaker 1: Star Tribune was to there to love their neighbors as well.

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Speaker 2: He's applauded.

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Speaker 1: But when Christian Republicans such as former VP Pence Pete

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Speaker 1: Hegseth just recently, when Pence says faith shapes my vision

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Speaker 1: of the world and my vision of public policy, they're

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Speaker 1: peg just pushing Christian nationalism. I've had foes of the

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Speaker 1: show leaving commentary regarding this speaking doing that exact same

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Speaker 1: thing this morning.

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Speaker 2: I'm sparing you, by the way, You're welcome.

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Speaker 1: For decades, Republican politicians have appealed to Christianity to frame

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Speaker 1: issues such as abortion, marriage, and religious liberty as moral

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Speaker 1: imperatives or rather than policy preferences. What's different today is

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Speaker 1: that both sides are doing it, some genuinely, some in

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Speaker 1: a way that's politically calculated to tap into particular demographic,

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Speaker 1: a particular demographic of voters. When policy position is framed

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Speaker 1: as biblical mandate, and we've had multiple examples of that

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Speaker 1: regarding pushback against lawful immigrations and customs enforcement efforts, disagreement

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Speaker 1: can be portrayed not merely as political dissent, but as

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Speaker 1: a failure of moral care or disobedience to a sole

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Speaker 1: level imperative. Even in an increasingly secular culture, the moral

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Speaker 1: authority of religion still carries weight, especially when it's convenient

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Speaker 1: for one's political ends. Faith has always shaped American public life,

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Speaker 1: and it is natural for citizens to want their moral

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Speaker 1: convictions reflected in public policy, whether those convictions are religious

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Speaker 1: or secular. That is not Christian nationalism, regardless of which

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Speaker 1: side it is on. But people of faith should be

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Speaker 1: willing to call out leaders who twist or selectively deploy

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Speaker 1: scripture for political ends, whether it's Democratic or Republicans. And

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Speaker 1: this goes back to something I mentioned before. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: need a better name. I got to workshop it. My

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Speaker 1: cens doesn't really work. Christians in name only doesn't have

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Speaker 1: the quite the rhino ring to it where Republicans seem

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Speaker 1: to do. Now we need to come up with a

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Speaker 1: good name for who Karen the Karen Tolkeenan's of the

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Speaker 1: world are actually talking about those Christians who only align

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Speaker 1: with progressive liberal views and twist and distort the Bible

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Speaker 1: to fit those narratives to push their agenda.

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Speaker 7: The left doesn't have an issue with the so called

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Speaker 7: separation of church and state, which itself is. Yes, they

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Speaker 7: have a problem with Christianity because they know it's true.

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Speaker 7: That's why it's attacked so often. They're not going to

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Speaker 7: go after Mom Donnie for holding a robin on prayer

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Speaker 7: service and what they called for the killing of infidels.

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Speaker 2: They're not going to go.

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Speaker 7: After other religions. They're going to go after Christianity specifically

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Speaker 7: because they know how powerful it is, they know how

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Speaker 7: true it is. That's the left problem.

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Speaker 1: I want to wrap on this actually have a couple

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Speaker 1: of talkbacks we'll try to spike in before we wrap

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Speaker 1: things up. But this kind of fits into what I

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Speaker 1: was talking about this morning. Matt Walls from Daily.

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Speaker 2: I like Matt.

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Speaker 1: There's been times when he I don't agree with him

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Speaker 1: on everything, but that's okay, that's okay. I think sometimes

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Speaker 1: he takes a, you know, to extreme of a stance

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Speaker 1: on some particular issues. This, however, I thought was really

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Speaker 1: interesting and something that I've been feeling as well in

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Speaker 1: my own household. He posted this on X over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: He says, I used to be entirely in the camp

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Speaker 1: that said that you should kick your kids out at

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Speaker 1: eighteen and force them to live independently and make their

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Speaker 1: own way in the world. I don't feel that way

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Speaker 1: at all anymore, says Matt Walsh. I want all my

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Speaker 1: kids to live with us until they get married. Even

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Speaker 1: after they're married, if they want to live on or

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Speaker 1: near our property, close by my wife and I would

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Speaker 1: love that. The important thing is to teach your kids responsibility,

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Speaker 1: which we're doing, says Matt Walsh. They need to contribute

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Speaker 1: and help around the house, which I'll all of our

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Speaker 1: kids do from a very young age. Provided you aren't

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Speaker 1: raising ungrateful, useless moochers. Why kick them out? Why drive

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Speaker 1: them away from your family home. I don't see the

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Speaker 1: point in it anymore. I actually like my kids and

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Speaker 1: like being around them. Maybe they'll all end up scattered

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Speaker 1: to the wind, but I'd prefer to keep the family together.

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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't I.

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Speaker 1: He makes a really interesting point, and to put a

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Speaker 1: bow on the pushback the.

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Speaker 2: Claims of Christian nationalism.

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Speaker 1: I think the truth of the matter is there is

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Speaker 1: a revival taking place in the country right now, and

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Speaker 1: Democrats are desperately trying to attach themselves to it. Because

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Speaker 1: there's nothing that a Democrat fears more than a Bible

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Speaker 1: believing Christian, especially a Bible believing Christian that ends up

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Speaker 1: making their way into politics and has success in politics.

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Speaker 1: COVID put many of us in a position for our

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Speaker 1: children to stay with us longer than they typically would

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Speaker 1: when I was growing up and when you were growing up.

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Speaker 1: But to Matt Walsh's point, that's a good thing in

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Speaker 1: an increasingly secular world wherein it's really easy for good

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Speaker 1: kids to get stuck on their phones in their own

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Speaker 1: thought bubbles, in their own bubbles within society outside of

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Speaker 1: the home. You see more and more families whose kids

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Speaker 1: are staying with them longer, and it's a good thing. Eventually,

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Speaker 1: they should getut, they should get out on their own,

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Speaker 1: they should get married, they should have killed children of

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Speaker 1: their own. That should all, you know, be a part

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Speaker 1: of the focus. But Matt makes a really good point.

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Speaker 1: Times are changing, and that morning and we'll talk with

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