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Speaker 1: Hour two Twin City's News Talk AM eleven thirty and

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Speaker 1: one O three five FM. Glad you went the show

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Speaker 1: this morning. My name is John Justice in the studio

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Speaker 1: next doors. Devin dan Pillow, your tax guru, will join

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Speaker 1: us coming up at seven thirty in studio answering your

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Speaker 1: tax related questions. We were talking a bit about Artemis

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Speaker 1: two in the launch yesterday. We'll get into more of

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Speaker 1: that in about an hour from now. I did have

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Speaker 1: a friend of the show the first talkback that was

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Speaker 1: questioning the moon landing, the first one, not the second one.

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Speaker 1: The guy he said he was just he was just teasing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I figured as much. Thank you for that.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 1: Another reason why I don't like April Fool's Day because

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Speaker 1: sometimes it's hard to tell. I can't see the expression

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Speaker 1: on your face. Also talking about Trump saying the US

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Speaker 1: will finish the job soon in his first or primetime

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Speaker 1: speech of the Iran war. Let's get to a few

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Speaker 1: of your thoughts before we move on to other Trump

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Speaker 1: and court related items this morning on Twin City's News Talk.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think that people have really paid attention

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Speaker 3: to the Islamis and what they say. Those guys are

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Speaker 3: not going to surrender. They are going to fight to

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Speaker 3: the death, and the only way to defeat this evil

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Speaker 3: is to wipe them out. And we're finding that out

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Speaker 3: right now. And I'm just glad that Donald J. Trump

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Speaker 3: has the guts to go in there and get it done.

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump just hit the nail on the head. The

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Speaker 4: Iran conflict is an investment in your children's future that

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Speaker 4: they don't deal with terrorism and the bullies coming from

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Speaker 4: this region anymore. Unfortunately, the Democrats there vision of your

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Speaker 4: children's futures paying off massive, massive deaths caused by fraud

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Speaker 4: and programs developed under their watch.

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Speaker 5: No, this is Chuck from Green Isle. As far as

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Speaker 5: Israel having boots on the ground, who was it that

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Speaker 5: infiltrated all their little organizations and knew exactly who and

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Speaker 5: where all these people were that they needed to take

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Speaker 5: out exactly. I think they had a lot of skin

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Speaker 5: in again.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, see you by thank you, Chuck.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, and thank you for the comments

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Speaker 1: from the iHeart Radio app. Let's sneak one in here

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Speaker 1: regarding the Artemis mission, and then we'll turn our attention

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Speaker 1: over to the courts.

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Speaker 6: And they continued.

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Speaker 1: Relentless pursuit to take Trump down via judge activism.

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Speaker 7: Good boy John Dennis the Southwest Minnesota. Yes, I do

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Speaker 7: remember the moon Lent in nineteen sixty nine. I was

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Speaker 7: awesome then, and it was awesome yesterday. It was really

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Speaker 7: fun the launch. All these people in naysayers they don't

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Speaker 7: know what they have to talk about. And Trump's speech

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Speaker 7: was powesome last night. I feel like we're in a

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Speaker 7: very very good place in this country right now.

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Speaker 2: Best memoraboo, have a great day.

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Speaker 1: So we brought up the ballroom again yesterday because another

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Speaker 1: judge has gone and blocked it. And to some of

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Speaker 1: the points that I made on the show Wednesday, I

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Speaker 1: have an article here from the Daily Wire. I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to share with you a few points because it

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Speaker 1: made me laugh. Yesterday was one of the most important

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Speaker 1: days in American legal history.

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Speaker 6: Exclamation point.

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Speaker 1: Federal Judge Richard Leon ordered the Trump administration to stop

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Speaker 1: construction of a new White House ballroom on the grounds

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Speaker 1: of the somewhat recently tore down East Wing, and he

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Speaker 1: did so by using a lot of the exclamation points.

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Speaker 1: In fact, he used eighteen of them in a thirty

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Speaker 1: five page opinion. That's a lot, and I'm only now

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Speaker 1: realizing that I should have grabbed the Elaine esclamation point

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Speaker 1: clips from that episode where she put a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: matter of fact, they make a Seinfeld reference in the story.

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Speaker 1: If we believe Wikipedia's page picture, Judge Leon, who was

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Speaker 1: appointed to the US District Court in DC nearly twenty

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Speaker 1: five years ago by George W. Bush, actually looks like

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Speaker 1: Seinfeld's George Costanzan disguise. He previously worked as a hand

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Speaker 1: model for the New York Yankees, as an architect, and

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Speaker 1: as an unknown capacity at Vandalay Industries. He also loves

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Speaker 1: using esclamation points in his opinions. Four times he refuted

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Speaker 1: the White House arguments by saying please, as in, according

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Speaker 1: to defendants, any construction delay will undermine national security.

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Speaker 6: Please.

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Speaker 1: Other examples of the exclamatory function of Leon's judicial prose

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Speaker 1: the existence of a large whole besides the White House,

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Speaker 1: of course a problem of the president's own making. This

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Speaker 1: is clearly not how Congress and the former presidents have

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Speaker 1: managed the White House for centuries, and this court will

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Speaker 1: not be the first to hold that Congress has seated

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Speaker 1: its powers in such a significant fashion, and after all,

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Speaker 1: the White House does not belong to any one man,

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Speaker 6: A president.

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Speaker 2: Exclamation points.

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Speaker 6: In all of those there's.

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Speaker 1: A large percentage of the establishment, buttressed by boomers and

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Speaker 1: permanently terrified gen xers on social media who act like

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Speaker 1: Trump's attempts to build a grand ballroom at the White

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Speaker 1: House are akin to him tearing down the Rose Garden

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Speaker 1: to make way for a crematorium for illegal immigrants. This

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Speaker 1: is the people's house, they argue, even though most people

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Speaker 1: don't live there and will never go there exactly. The

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Speaker 1: renovation is privately funded and in the end will harm

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Speaker 1: no one. But the real headline here is that a

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Speaker 1: major judge has used exclamation points and is significant ruling

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Speaker 1: like he's a middle schooler writing a mash note. I

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Speaker 1: do exclaim the piece wraps up. We all know how

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Speaker 1: this will end. President Trump will ignore the court's ruling

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Speaker 1: and find a way around it. He's going to build

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Speaker 1: his big, beautiful ballroom, and then he and his administration

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Speaker 1: will say to Judge Leon by Felicia yesterday, this is

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Speaker 1: my favorite clip of the morning.

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Speaker 6: So fantastic.

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Speaker 1: President Donald Trump yesterday like single handedly went and decimated

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Speaker 1: in like one sentence the entire no king's premise, going

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Speaker 1: back to the protests that have taken place, this was,

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Speaker 1: I'll just play it for you.

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Speaker 8: They call me king, now do you believe it? No King,

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Speaker 8: I'm such a king. I can't get a bull room approved.

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Speaker 8: Pretty amazing.

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Speaker 2: I'm a king.

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Speaker 8: If I was a king, would be doing a lot more.

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Speaker 8: I'm doing a lot, but I could be doing a

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Speaker 8: lot more of I was a king.

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Speaker 6: So great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And what's even more hysterical about that? There was

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Speaker 1: that was one of them. She said, Oh, it's just

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Speaker 1: another example of Trump being king.

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Speaker 8: That they call me king. Now do you believe No King,

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Speaker 2: I'm a king.

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Speaker 8: If I was a king, would be doing a lot more.

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Speaker 8: lot more of I was a king.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday, President Donald Trump unprecedented move ended up going to

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. As according to the Newsmax article, they

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Speaker 1: were casting doubt on Trump's restrictions on birthright citizenship in

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Speaker 1: a constitutional case that was magnified by his presence. The

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Speaker 1: conservative and liberal justices Wednesday questioned Trump's order declaring that

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Speaker 1: children born to parents who are in the United States

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Speaker 1: illegally or temporarily are not American citizens, comports with either

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Speaker 1: Constitution or federal law. Trump, the first sitting president to

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Speaker 1: attend arguments at the nation's highest court, spent just over

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Speaker 1: an hour inside the court room for arguments made by

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Speaker 1: the Republicans administration's top Supreme Court lawyer, Solicitor General John Sower.

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Speaker 1: Trump heard sour face one skeptical question after another. Justices

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Speaker 1: asked about the legal basis for the order, voiced more

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Speaker 1: practical concerns. Now Clarence Thomas sounded the most likely among

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Speaker 1: the nine justices to side with Trump. How much of

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Speaker 1: the debates around the fourteenth Amendment had anything to do

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Speaker 1: with immigration, Thomas asked, pointing out now the purpose of

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Speaker 1: the amendment was to grant citizenship to black people, including

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Speaker 1: freed slaves. The justices are hearing Trump's appeal of a

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Speaker 1: lower court ruling from New Hampshire that struck down the citizens' restrictions.

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Speaker 1: One of the several courts have blocked them. They have

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Speaker 1: not taken effect anywhere else in the country. The Birthright

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Speaker 1: Citizenship Order, which Trump signed on this first day of

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Speaker 1: a second term as part of the Republican administration's abroad

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Speaker 1: immigration crackdown. Now, Trump's order would up end the long

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Speaker 1: standing view that the Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, ratified back in

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Speaker 1: eighteen sixty eight. Federal law since nineteen forty confer citizenship

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Speaker 1: to anyone born on American soil, with narrow exceptions for

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Speaker 1: children of foreign diplomats and those born to a foreign

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Speaker 1: occupying force. The Fourteenth Amendment was intended, as I mentioned

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Speaker 1: had citizenship through the citizenship clause. It's more broadly written,

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Speaker 1: all persons born or naturalized in the United States are

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Speaker 1: subject to to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the

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Speaker 1: United States and of the state wherein they reside, it reads.

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Speaker 1: I'll get to more of what was broken down during

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Speaker 1: that yesterday the court hearing. I do want to share

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Speaker 1: just continues to show just how awful she is at being.

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Speaker 6: A Supreme Court justice.

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Speaker 1: Of course, that would be Justice Katanji Jackson Brown arguing

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Speaker 1: for illegal aliens having birthright citizenship by saying that if

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Speaker 1: she steals somebody's wallet in Japan, she has allegiance to

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Speaker 1: that country. Yeah, let me play for you the clip

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Speaker 9: And I was.

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Speaker 10: Thinking, you know, I'm ius citizen and visiting Japan, and

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Speaker 10: what it means means is that, you know, if I

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Speaker 10: steal someone's wallet in Japan, the Japanese authorities can arrest.

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Speaker 9: Me and prosecute me.

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Speaker 10: It's allegiance, meaning can they control you.

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Speaker 9: As a matter of law.

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Speaker 10: the person who has stolen it. So there's this relationship

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Speaker 10: based on even though I'm a temporary traveler, I'm just

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Speaker 10: on vacation in Japan, I'm still locally owing allegiance in

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Speaker 9: Is that the right way to think about it? And

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Speaker 9: if so, doesn't.

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Speaker 10: That explain why both temporary residents and undocumented people would

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Speaker 10: have that kind of quote unquote allegiance just by virtue

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Speaker 11: Have you ever read a dreams that you you had

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Speaker 11: you you you could, you do you want you you

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Speaker 11: could do so you you do you could? You want?

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Speaker 11: You want him to do you so much? You could

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Speaker 11: do anything.

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Speaker 6: Coming up.

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Speaker 1: More to the story, I also have a clip of

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Speaker 1: Justice Alito to help cleanse your palette from whatever it

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Speaker 1: was that Katie Brown was attempting to articulate. It's coming

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Speaker 1: up next here on Twin Cities News talk back to

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Speaker 1: something reasonable.

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Speaker 10: And I was thinking, you know, I'm I'm i U

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Speaker 10: Japanese authorities can.

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Speaker 9: Arrest me and prosecute me.

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Speaker 10: It's allegiance, meaning can they control.

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Speaker 9: You as a matter of law.

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Speaker 9: Person who has stolen it.

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Speaker 10: So there's this relationship based on even though I'm a

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Speaker 12: Oh my gosh, I'm just listening to you play that

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Speaker 6: She sounds like Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 9: I seriously had to have been in the same class.

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Speaker 14: Well, please don't torture us anymore with her comments.

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Speaker 14: Did that, lady, you just played take the Kamala Harris

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Speaker 16: Right, John Devin, I've learned a long time ago. Just

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Speaker 6: And in my opinion, the guy writing.

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Speaker 16: About the White House as a judge is an activist,

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Speaker 6: And they would lose.

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Speaker 1: The Trump administration argues that the common view of citizenship

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Speaker 1: According to research by the Migration Policy Institute Pennsylvania State

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Speaker 1: We don't belong here, according to them, Think her baby

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Speaker 1: The Framers clearly didn't anticipate that birthright citizenship would become

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Speaker 17: Not subject to any foreign power is pretty straightforward.

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Speaker 2: So let me give you these examples.

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Speaker 17: A boy is born here to an Iranian father who

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Speaker 12: Not within the meaning of the eighteen sixty six Act

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Speaker 9: Of any foreign power, that.

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Speaker 12: You were, that another country considers you a you sanguineous citizen,

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Speaker 17: Meaning of that would certainly encompass that boy, would it not,

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Speaker 12: If you think that the language of the eighteen sixty

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Speaker 17: What I said about a boy born to an Iranian

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Speaker 17: A child who's born here to Mexican parents. They're automatically citizens,

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Speaker 12: But again, Justice Lato, that would have meant that the

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Speaker 17: Well, in all of those cases, the parents could be

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Speaker 1: We're going to switch gears coming up again, and that

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Speaker 18: Good morning, John. One of the things I think a

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Speaker 18: lot of people don't understand about birthright citizenship is it's

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Speaker 14: Hey, John, it just shows how corrupt the whole government is,

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Speaker 2: After listening to Shacks.

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Speaker 7: And Brown even I could be a Supreme Court judge.

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Speaker 1: was working on some stuff with my four oh one K,

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Speaker 1: and so I dropped them a text as I had

447
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Speaker 1: a question. He's like, yeah, I had a free moment.

448
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Speaker 1: I'm in Italy right now. If you want me to

449
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Speaker 1: give you a call. I'm like, you know, why don't

450
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Speaker 1: you just go ahead and continue with your travels. I'm

451
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Speaker 1: a little bit a little bit later on, but I

452
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Speaker 1: wanted to ask you now that just it just popped

453
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Speaker 1: into my head. Uh, there's this this ketchup that you

454
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Speaker 1: can do that that that they're offering right now when

455
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Speaker 1: it comes to your to your four oh one K.

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Speaker 1: What what is that I've been trying to get to

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Speaker 1: the details, and I did my own little research on it,

458
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Speaker 1: but it was like near impossible to get to the

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Speaker 1: core of what this four oh one k ketchup is.

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Speaker 19: And the problem is there's so many different retirement programs.

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Speaker 19: You can't have one program for wage earners and one

462
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Speaker 19: program for self employed people. There's got to be six

463
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Speaker 19: or eight different programs that mix and max all these

464
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Speaker 19: different benefits, which is one of the one of the

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Speaker 19: examples of the insanity of the tax code. Why can't

466
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Speaker 19: you have just one or two programs? Why do you

467
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Speaker 19: need seven or eight? Well, the ketchup is very simple.

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Speaker 19: If you if you reach a particular age. I believe

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Speaker 19: the age is fifty five, but I'm not sure that either.

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Speaker 19: But when you reach it, when you reach a particular age,

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Speaker 19: you you're entitled to increase your contribution to your four

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Speaker 19: to one K or your IRA. It's called ketch up

473
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Speaker 19: because you've reach that you've reached that magic age where

474
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Speaker 19: you're getting old now and you're getting closer to your

475
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Speaker 19: retirement age, and it's an opportunity to more richly fund

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Speaker 19: your retirement plan without a penalty for over contribution.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha, Okay, So there was limitations on your contributions and

478
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Speaker 1: this gives you an opportunity to pull more from your

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Speaker 1: paycheck on a monthly basis. I was talking about this

480
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Speaker 1: earlier in the week, and I also wanted to get

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Speaker 1: your thoughts and then we'll get to some of these

482
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Speaker 1: emails talking with our tax guru, Dan Pilla. But there

483
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Speaker 1: were some suggestions regarding the concerns over social security in

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Speaker 1: and of itself.

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Speaker 6: We've been hearing this for years.

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Speaker 1: That is just not going to be the money's not

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Speaker 1: going to be there given I think it was like

488
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Speaker 1: twenty thirty two or something like this, But there was

489
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Speaker 1: a suggestion that somebody had made wherein they would limit

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Speaker 1: the amount of money that they say, you know, rich

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Speaker 1: retirees two one hundred thousand could go and gain off

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Speaker 1: of their social security.

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Speaker 6: Have you seen that and you have any thoughts on it?

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Speaker 19: Listen, there's been all kinds of different proposals to fund

495
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Speaker 19: social Security and to make the system. So the social

496
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Speaker 19: security system is going has been going broke for fifty years. John,

497
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Speaker 19: It's actually unsound. It's been actually unsound from day one.

498
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Speaker 19: There's no question about that. But the question is what

499
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Speaker 19: are they going to do? I'll tell you what they're

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Speaker 19: going to do. They're going to print the money that

501
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Speaker 19: is necessary to fund Social Security benefits off into infinity.

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Speaker 19: There is no way that, there's no way that anybody

503
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Speaker 19: in the federal government, whether you're a Democrat Republican president,

504
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Speaker 19: doesn't make any difference with what it is, is going

505
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Speaker 19: to step up and say we're going to stop providing

506
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Speaker 19: Social Security benefits, because the outcry would be so incredible.

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Speaker 19: I paid that money in, that's my money. I have

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Speaker 19: an accountant Washington, none of which is true. Of course,

509
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Speaker 19: Well it's true that you paid it in, but it's

510
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Speaker 19: not true that you've got an account in Washington with

511
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Speaker 19: your name on it it's got all your money in it.

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Speaker 19: That's simply not true. Social Security is a welfare benefit.

513
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Speaker 19: It always has been a welfare benefit. It's funded by

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Speaker 19: current tax revenue. That's the way the system works, and

515
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Speaker 19: so they can change the benefits whenever they want to.

516
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Speaker 19: There's no way that anybody's going to stand up and

517
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Speaker 19: say we're going to stop paying your Social Security because

518
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Speaker 19: you know, just because we don't.

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Speaker 2: Have the money.

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Speaker 1: Is there any movement whatsoever to and I know what

521
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Speaker 1: you just said, and so I'm going to be counter

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Speaker 1: to what you just said.

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Speaker 6: Let me add an element to it. Is there any way,

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Speaker 6: because I.

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Speaker 1: Laid out this scenario earlier in the week when I

526
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Speaker 1: was talking about it, and my scenario was pay out

527
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Speaker 1: the individuals that have already paid into it, but then

528
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Speaker 1: stop taking Social Security.

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Speaker 6: At a certain point moving forward.

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Speaker 1: For workers, let us have that money back, and let

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Speaker 1: us decide on our own just eliminate it without affecting.

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Speaker 6: The individuals that have already paid into it.

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Speaker 19: All right, Well, we got to start with the premise, John,

534
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Speaker 19: that there is no money in Washington in a bank

535
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Speaker 19: account with your name on it, all right, So you

536
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Speaker 19: don't quote unture have money saved.

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Speaker 6: It's just on the website when I look at it, right.

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Speaker 19: Right, it's right. All it is is digits on a

539
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Speaker 19: piece of paper. Right, There's no bank account with your

540
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Speaker 19: name on it. Here's what we have to do. We've

541
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Speaker 19: got to dial back the benefits actuarily.

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Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is real simple.

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Speaker 19: Let's say you're sixty five years of age, all right,

544
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Speaker 19: you qualify for full benefits or sixty seven whatever the

545
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Speaker 19: county is, right, Let's just say sixty seven, all right,

546
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Speaker 19: So now you got full benefits. That person needs to

547
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Speaker 19: be paid based on the benefits they earned over the

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Speaker 19: course of their lifetime.

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Speaker 2: They have to be paid.

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Speaker 19: A sixty year old person might get ninety eight percent

551
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Speaker 19: of those benefits, a forty year old person might get

552
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Speaker 19: eighty percent of those benefits. And we dial it down

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Speaker 19: actually so that a twenty year old today is not

554
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Speaker 19: going to get any benefits. That twenty year old today

555
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Speaker 19: has to provide for their own retirement. But at the

556
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Speaker 19: same time, that twenty year old can't be required to

557
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Speaker 19: pay the so called Social Security contribution, which is not

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Speaker 19: a contribution at all. It's an extraction right in the

559
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Speaker 19: guise of a contribution. It's a tax. It's just another

560
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Speaker 19: payroll tax. But that person has to be given full

561
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Speaker 19: opportunity to take that money, put it into their own

562
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Speaker 19: retirement account, save it in their own own retirement account

563
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Speaker 19: over the period of their lifetime, after which, by the way,

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Speaker 19: they would probably have seven figures worth of savings that

565
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Speaker 19: they could pass on to their heirs, to their spouse,

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Speaker 19: to their children, which you can't do with your Social

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Speaker 19: Security benefits, John, You got to live to the next

568
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Speaker 19: month to get a dying from Social Security so you

569
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Speaker 19: pay in Social Security your entire life, you qualify for

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Speaker 19: benefits at say age sixty seven, and you die a

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Speaker 19: month later, you get nothing. The death benefits two hundred

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Speaker 19: and fifty five dollars.

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Speaker 2: It's a joke.

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Speaker 19: And you know your spouse only gets the hire of

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Speaker 19: your kind of your benefit or her benefit, whichever is greater.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't get both of them. So that's not an

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Speaker 2: asset that you have.

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Speaker 19: You've paid this tax your entire life and you get

579
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Speaker 19: no benefit that can be passed on to your heirs,

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Speaker 19: whereas if we have private accounts, those could be passed on.

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Speaker 2: To the heirs.

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Speaker 6: I like the idea of being able to get it

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Speaker 6: all up front. I know it's never going to happen,

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Speaker 6: but I do like that idea.

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Speaker 1: So talking what's after your udine and Pillar Tax help

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Speaker 1: online dot com is the website.

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Speaker 6: Let's go to the email.

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Speaker 1: And Peggy asked, this, is there any way to legally

589
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Speaker 1: not pay taxes?

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Speaker 6: And since we now all know that ninety of.

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Speaker 1: Our money is going to nothing but fraud, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if none of us pay taxes, there will be no

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Speaker 1: money available for any more fraud. Before you before you

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Speaker 1: answered that really quick to me.

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Speaker 6: Added as slipping to this. I didn't realize this.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 1: I heard Dave Ramsey on a clip that I was

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Speaker 1: watching online that it's it's illegal to not file your taxes,

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Speaker 1: but not illegal if you don't pay your taxes.

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Speaker 2: Well that's not true.

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Speaker 6: Oh, it's not true.

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Speaker 2: That's all right.

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Speaker 6: So to Peggy's point.

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Speaker 19: There's a criminal penalty for failure to file the return.

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Speaker 19: There's also a criminal penalty for failure to pay the tax.

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Speaker 19: Oh okay, right, so, and there's criminal penalties for tax

607
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Speaker 19: evasion and tax fraud return and.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't planning on so. So the short answer.

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Speaker 19: Is you don't have the latitude to say to the

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Speaker 19: IRS or the State of Minnesota that, because of the

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Speaker 19: level of fraud, I'm not going to pay.

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Speaker 2: Are you just listen.

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Speaker 19: I've had that question six thousand times great eighteen months

614
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Speaker 19: because of the level of fraud and the state people

615
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Speaker 19: are so frustrated. There's not a tax payer out there,

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Speaker 19: John that is not completely frustrated with the State of

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Speaker 19: Minnesota in the fraud level that's going on here, which

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00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 19: you know more about than anybody I know. But the

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Speaker 19: thing is this, that's non excuse for not paying the tax.

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Speaker 19: You still have that affirmative duty to pay, and you're

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Speaker 19: not going to It's not going to be a defense

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Speaker 19: either to civil penalties or criminal penalties to say, hey,

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Speaker 19: the states, the state's loaded with fraud. Why should I

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Speaker 19: have to pay tax?

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Speaker 1: Guru Dan Pillas in the studio with us Weldon. Ha's

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Speaker 1: a question, does a person who is self employed and

627
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Speaker 1: does not employ others have to pay the paid family

628
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Speaker 1: medical leave taxes both employer and employee portions. If they

629
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Speaker 1: took the leave, there would be no business conducted during

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Speaker 1: that time period.

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Speaker 6: So what are your thoughts on.

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Speaker 19: Well, well, every business has to pay to pay the

633
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Speaker 19: medical leave tax.

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Speaker 2: There's no question about that.

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Speaker 19: It's based on what based on whatever the percentage of

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Speaker 19: the assessment is, and it just doesn't make any difference

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Speaker 19: that you're not paying a employee per se. As a

638
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 19: self employed person, you've got that responsibility and that at

639
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Speaker 19: the federal level, the self employed person pays the self

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Speaker 19: employed tax, which is the Social Security tax, at twice

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Speaker 19: the rate that employees pay. Employees pay at seven point

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Speaker 19: sixty five percent, self employed people pay at double that rate,

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Speaker 19: fifteen and a half. So it's it's some people are

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Speaker 19: everybody's treated equally, John, It's just that some people are

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Speaker 19: more equal than others.

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Speaker 1: What do your thought We haven't talked about this, but

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Speaker 1: I'd be curious your thoughts on the paid family medical.

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Speaker 19: It's another way of squeezing businesses and driving productive people

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Speaker 19: out of the state.

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Speaker 6: Let's get to a few let me say this ahead.

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Speaker 2: I didn't mean to step on you, but no, no, there's a.

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Speaker 19: Fundamental economic premise that we need to understand, and that

653
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Speaker 19: is what you tax, you get less of. What you

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Speaker 19: subsidize you get more of. Right, this is just fundamental economics.

655
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Speaker 19: When you tax businesses as a result of their having employees,

656
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Speaker 19: you will get fewer businesses having employees. When you subsidize

657
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Speaker 19: people to stay home and not work, you will get

658
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Speaker 19: more people staying home and not working. What you tax

659
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Speaker 19: you get less of, what you subsidize, you get more of.

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Speaker 2: It's that simple.

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Speaker 1: Now, I know there are a few things that you

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Speaker 1: want to do. Mention in your recent newsletter, you had

663
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Speaker 1: nineteen things to keep in mind for the tax filings

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Speaker 1: this year.

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Speaker 6: Let's run through a few of them. We don't have

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Speaker 6: time for all nas days.

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Speaker 2: But you don't want to spend three hours and go

668
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Speaker 2: through nineteen.

669
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: I mean we could. I'm not sure that Glenn Beck

670
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: would approve. But so first off, let's start with the

671
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: first one you had on the list. Let's do the

672
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: top three here. The do date on the return, the

673
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: due date on the return is April fifteenth. There's no

674
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: holiday or there's no The April fifteenth date does not

675
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: fall on a Saturday or Sunday. So the April fifteenth

676
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 1: date is the deadline there's been this year. There's been

677
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: no administrative extension of the date.

678
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 2: In the past.

679
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 19: The IRIS has extended the date for this reason or

680
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 19: that reason, and COVID most comes to mind most recently.

681
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 19: But April fifteenth is the drop dead date. Now you

682
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 19: can get an extension on that date. John, if you

683
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 19: use IRIS Form forty eight sixty eight four eight six eight,

684
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 19: you can get an automatic extension of up to six

685
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 19: months to file that tax return without penalties, as long

686
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 19: as you file it within the extended DO day, which

687
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 19: then would be October fifteenth. There's no failure to pay

688
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 19: or i'm sorry, failure to file or late filing penalty

689
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 19: that goes along with that.

690
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: So that's extension is available.

691
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: But the filing extension does not extend the payment deadline.

692
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

693
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 19: And this is very important because most people that file

694
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 19: an extension, that submit the extension to get the filing

695
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 19: extension are doing it because they owe money that they

696
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 19: can't pay. But that's not the key to solving the problem.

697
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 19: If you get a filing extension, you still owe the

698
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 19: money by April fifteenth. The secret there, john is to

699
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 19: use IRIS form eleven twenty seven. Form one one two

700
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 19: seven is called an applic cation for an extension.

701
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 2: Of time to pay the tax.

702
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 19: That form needs to be filed by April fifteenth.

703
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: You need a reason.

704
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 19: The filing extension is automatic, but the payment extension is

705
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 19: not right. So you need a reason, and you have

706
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 19: to explain to the Irs that you exercised ordinary, reasonable

707
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 19: business care and prudence in providing for your tax. In

708
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 19: other words, you did the things that a reasonable person

709
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 19: would do, knowing that you have to pay this liability,

710
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 19: but due to unforeseen circumstances beyond your control, you couldn't

711
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 19: pay on time. Right, Maybe a medical problem, illness, injury, fire, flood,

712
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 19: any of those types of things that would put you

713
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 19: into a position where you have to literally make a

714
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 19: choice between paying your taxes and feeding your family. That's

715
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 19: the kind of hardship that needs to be shown to

716
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 19: get that extension. It's discretionary, it's not automatic. So the

717
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 19: IRS is going to respond to you and say, well,

718
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 19: we'll maybe we'll give you the six months, maybe we'll

719
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 19: give you four months. Maybe the answer is no, we're

720
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 19: not going to give you any additional time.

721
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: All right.

722
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 19: In that situation, if you've got a liability that you

723
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 19: can't pay now, you can use Form ninety four sixty five.

724
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 19: Form nine four sixty five is called an application for

725
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 19: an application for an installment agreement where you can pay

726
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 19: the taxes over time.

727
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: Do you have just a quick question for you, because

728
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: I always do my taxes right away. Do you have

729
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: any advice for an individual when they should when they

730
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: should file if they're not having any issues in terms

731
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: of paying it and it's just sort of a normal year.

732
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: Do you have any suggestions on whether it's better to

733
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: file early or whether it's better to file closer to

734
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: the filing date.

735
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 19: Well, there's been all kinds of wives tales over the years,

736
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 19: John about filing a return, get an extension, and file

737
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 19: your return in October because the IRS makes all their

738
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 19: determinations as to who they're going to audit after April fifteenth,

739
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 19: but before the die. It's all nonsense. Stuff is all nonsense. Right,

740
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 19: file the return as soon as you can file the return.

741
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 19: If you need time because you're missing records, or or

742
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 19: there's any kind of event that's going on in your

743
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 19: life where you can't get the return filed, get the

744
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 19: extension and file by.

745
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: The October deadline.

746
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 19: If the IRS is holding your money, as they do

747
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 19: in about eighty percent of the cases, right wagejoarners overpay

748
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 19: their taxes, file returning gets your money back.

749
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: They're not paying the interest, and file on time even

750
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 1: if you can't pay right well.

751
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 19: Especially especially because here's the problem. The penalty for failure

752
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 19: to pay the tax is a percent a month up

753
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 19: to a maximum of twenty five percent. The penalty for

754
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 19: failure to file the return is five percent a month

755
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 19: for five months maximum and twenty five percent. So if

756
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 19: you owe money to the IRS, all right, you're going

757
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 19: to face that failure to pay penalty. If you don't

758
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 19: file the return because you don't have the money, you've

759
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 19: doubled the penalty, right, You've added insult to injury in

760
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 19: a big way, so the IR. And this is how

761
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 19: the IRS takes a difficult situation and turns it into

762
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 19: an impossible one, right by loading on the penalties and

763
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 19: interest to somebody who couldn't pay in the first place.

764
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: That was one of the things during the what I

765
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: call the dark years. It's really worth that dark But

766
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: I was, you know, single at the time, living alone

767
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: and just let me guess, going to the clubs and

768
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: not being very fiscally responsible. But he used to always

769
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: make me laugh. How it reminds me of when you

770
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: get the overdraft charge.

771
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 6: It's like, well, why are you charging me extra? I

772
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 6: couldn't pay that in the first place.

773
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: So what made you think they had the extra money

774
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: for the penalty?

775
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 2: Well?

776
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 6: First, well, now here's the thing with the penalties, and

777
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 6: this is.

778
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 2: What people need to understand with the penalties.

779
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 19: The penalties are are there to provide a deterrent to

780
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 19: deliberately negligent behavior.

781
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 2: This is what we have to understand.

782
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 19: The overwhelming majority of people that are in trouble with

783
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 19: the IRS.

784
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: Staurant did not wake up one morning and say.

785
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 19: To themselves, how can I piss off the IRS?

786
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 2: Today?

787
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 20: Oh?

788
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 19: I know I'll stop filing my tax returns and paying

789
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 19: my taxes.

790
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 2: That that'll teach them.

791
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 19: No, No, we've got that sentiment going on in Minnesota

792
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 19: because of the fraud. But basically, that's not what happens

793
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 19: with people. They get themselves into a position where life

794
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 19: is throwing them a curveball, and now they have to

795
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 19: make a decision between paying their taxes and feeding their family.

796
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 19: That's not the liberately negligent conduct, all right. That's the

797
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 19: situation where circumstances beyond your control push you into a

798
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 19: position where you couldn't pay on time. In that case,

799
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 19: the penalties don't apply. And this is something I talk

800
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 19: about at length of my book, How to get tax

801
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 19: amnesty is how to get rid of the penalties that

802
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 19: the IRS adds to a bill. I've heard people tell

803
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 19: me a thousand times, I can pay my taxes, it's

804
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 19: the penalties and interests that are killing me. How do

805
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 19: I get rid of the penalties and interest Well, you

806
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 19: have the right to seek cancelation of the penalties based

807
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 19: on that reasonable cause standard. Did you deliberately disregard your

808
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 19: obligations or were there circumstances beyond your control that prevented

809
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 19: compliance if it's the latter as the case, and you know,

810
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 19: virtually every situation the penalties have to be canceled and

811
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 19: the IRIS will cancel the penalties. We have a tremendous

812
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 19: success over the years in getting rid of penalties. And

813
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 19: when the IRIS cancels the penalties, they cancel it interest

814
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 19: on the penalties, and that reduces the liability quite considerably.

815
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 6: Just don't tell the irs which party you belong to.

816
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 6: Say that again, so just don't tell the irs which

817
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 6: party you belong to. Let's get to a few.

818
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,959
Speaker 1: More of you your questions from the iHeartRadio app again.

819
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: Dan Pillar our tax Gurreau tax help online dot com

820
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: is his website.

821
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 20: What is the recommendation for taking advantage of no taxes

822
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 20: on tips for ten ninety nine employees? I was hoping

823
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 20: to take advantage of it because I do grocery delivery

824
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 20: and my husband does uber. But it seems that that

825
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 20: is not an advantage that we can use under the

826
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 20: big beautiful bill.

827
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think it is.

828
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 19: I think self employed people are taxed on their income,

829
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 19: whether it's tip income or not. The exclusion on tip

830
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 19: income is for employees that are in typically service related Industries.

831
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 15: Hi Grant from Champlain Here. One thing I've heard about

832
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 15: the post office is that you cannot drop your taxes

833
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 15: off in April fifteenth by just putting it in a

834
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 15: slot at the post office, because it might not actually

835
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 15: be postmarked to fifteenth. What you have to do is

836
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 15: either do a few days before or go into the

837
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 15: office and get a stamp at the counter.

838
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 6: I hope that guy feels better.

839
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 19: It sounds like you have a well, first of all,

840
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 19: don't do any of those things, all right, Never drop

841
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 19: your tax return in a slot and hope, against hope

842
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 19: that it gets postmarked and delivered properly. The responsibility to

843
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 19: file a tax return is an affirmative duty on the taxpayer,

844
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 19: and the responsibility to prove that you filed the tax

845
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 19: return is an affirmative duty that's put on the taxpayer.

846
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 19: So if the IRIS challenges you at some point along

847
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 19: the way that says, well, you didn't file your return,

848
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 19: you have to prove you filed it, right. So I

849
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 19: have always recommended I mean this is I've recommended this

850
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 19: for as long as I've been doing this, John, which

851
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 19: is north of forty five years. Send your TA if

852
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 19: you mail your tax return through the paper mailing process.

853
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 19: Mail it certified mail or US Priority mail with tracking,

854
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 19: so that you have proof of mailing and maintain that

855
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 19: proof of mailing. Here's the thing that people don't understand,

856
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 19: and they get blindsided by this all the time. The

857
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 19: burden of proof, as I said, is on the taxpayer

858
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 19: to prove that you file the tax return. Normally, the

859
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 19: IRIS is three years from the date a return has

860
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 19: filed in which to audit that return. If after three years,

861
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 19: they can't audit the return. So if you can prove

862
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 19: you filed your return on X date, right, that three

863
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 19: year clock starts running. But if the return was not filed, John,

864
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 19: there is no three year clock. They can audit the

865
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 19: return after six years, ten years, twenty years. They don't

866
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 19: go back that far, but they can. And the burden

867
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 19: of proof is on you to show that you file

868
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 19: the return. So if the IRIS shows up one day

869
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 19: six years from now and says, oh, John, you didn't

870
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 19: file your twenty twenty five tax return and you say, yes,

871
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 19: I did, they say prove it.

872
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 2: How are you going to prove it?

873
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 19: If you didn't send a certified mail or US Priority

874
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 19: mail with tracking, don't drop your tax return in a

875
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 19: slot someplace.

876
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: Get proof of mailing.

877
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 19: Now, most people are filing their returns electronically through their

878
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 19: tax pros. That's fine, but you need to get proof

879
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 19: of filing from the tax professional. When the tax professional

880
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 19: submits that tax return, they get confirmation from the iris's

881
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 19: computer system that the return was received. See one or

882
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 19: two things can happen when a tax returns filed electronically.

883
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 19: It's either received by the IRS or it's rejected. If

884
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 19: it's rejected, your return is not filed, right, So you

885
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 19: got to get proof from your tax pro that that

886
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Speaker 19: return was accepted for processing. Now you've got your proof

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Speaker 19: of filing. If the return is rejected, man, you didn't

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Speaker 19: file a return.

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Speaker 1: Let's sneak in one more question from the iHeartRadio app

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Speaker 1: as we talk with Dan Piller, our task gurg this morning.

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Speaker 21: I hear tax agencies advertise all the time that they

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Speaker 21: can handle your tax issue if you have to get

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Speaker 21: fined by the IRS and that cause you to pay

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Speaker 21: less than you according to the IRS.

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Speaker 2: What you actually know is that true? Does that work

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Speaker 2: in or is that a waste of time?

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Speaker 19: Well, I'm not sure what he's asking exactly, but there

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Speaker 19: are there are firms out there that will say that

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Speaker 19: if they made a mistake on your tax return, they

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Speaker 19: will pay the interest in the penalties, but not the

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Speaker 19: additional tax.

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Speaker 2: And that's fine.

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Speaker 19: That's a business decision, and that's okay if they made it.

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Speaker 19: If they made a mistake in preparing your tax return

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Speaker 19: and now you owe more money to the IRIS as

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Speaker 19: a result of their mistake, they probably should pay the

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Speaker 19: interest in the penalties.

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Speaker 1: Do you get the most concentration of tax questions like

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Speaker 1: right now?

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Speaker 6: As people are heading towards towards the deadline every year.

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Speaker 19: Obviously people are more interested now, John, It's it's a

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Speaker 19: heightened awareness.

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Speaker 2: No question about that. But I do tax litigation.

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Speaker 19: Work, and so you know, I'm busy all year long

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Speaker 19: with with the with the with the litigation aspect. I

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Speaker 19: personally don't prepare any tax returns. I get into the

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Speaker 19: act after the IRIS calls return into question and then

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Speaker 19: help people solve the problems that are created by you know,

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Speaker 19: they can't pay or there's a mistake on the return

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Speaker 19: or whatever the situation is.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you have any further questions for our tax guru,

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Speaker 1: help online dot com is or an email address you

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Speaker 1: want to.

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Speaker 19: Share that no tax help online is the best way

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Speaker 19: to go tax help online dot com.

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Speaker 1: Well, thanks for coming in. How about were the roads

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Speaker 1: by the way? This storm at all a little? There

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Speaker 1: was no ice or storm out there, so all for

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Speaker 1: nothing at least so far? Right, so far, Dan Pila

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Speaker 1: tax guru. So great to see you. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for coming in this morning to see Yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad we can get some questions asked. The word

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Speaker 1: I got my taxes done does not get any easier

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Speaker 1: every single year.

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Speaker 6: It just seems to get worse as I get older.

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Speaker 19: Unfortunately, So we got we got four million words in

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Speaker 19: the tax quote now, John, so by comparison in two

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Speaker 19: thousand and one there was one point three million. So

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Speaker 19: that's how easier the tax law has gotten. That's how

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Speaker 19: much more simple it's gotten now in the last twenty

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Speaker 19: five years.

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Speaker 2: We got four million words.

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Speaker 1: No, maybe we can get some of those anti ice

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Speaker 1: signs and we can do anti irs.

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Speaker 6: It can do some protesting in that regard.

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Speaker 19: Where are the protesters for anti irs?

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Speaker 2: I'd like to know.

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Speaker 1: Great to see you, Thank you so much for spending

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Speaker 1: some time with us this morning. We had a lot

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Speaker 1: of comments that rolled in the first part of the show,

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Speaker 1: your reaction to the Artemis two launch. Will share some

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Speaker 1: of those. Coming up, I'll share some further thoughts that

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Speaker 1: I have as well, and also I want to update

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Speaker 1: you the situation at City's church in Saint Paul continues.

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Speaker 1: There are still protesters that are hounding those churchgoers over there.

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Speaker 1: I want to share with you some of what we

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Speaker 1: learned from Alpha News. Coming up an hour three for

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Speaker 1: a Thursday here on Twinsday's News Talk AM eleven thirty

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Speaker 1: and one O three five f