WEBVTT - Scott Sloan Show -- 3/3/26 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.960 How do you, well, wa new warning, Iran and its 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:06.920 proxies are very likely planning attacks on the United States, 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:10.240 not hardcore terrorist attacks as we saw in nine to eleven, 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:12.760 and I mean that's all possibility. Look what happened in Austin, Texas, 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:14.640 which was more like a lone wolf, crazy dude, but 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:19.040 still again that's terrorism. I'm talking about cyber attacks. Are 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:22.680 you prepared, as Willie would say, for attacks on American soil? 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:25.439 Found the killing of Kamene? So what does that look 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:28.160 like for you? We hear about these large scale tax 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:30.360 all the time. Maybe I don't know, you can't shop 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:32.800 on Amazon, maybe your Twitter feed goes down for a 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:36.839 little bit. What actually would happen and what might happen? 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:42.199 Chris naiheis of Vigilant Cybersecurity in Cincinnati. He's the CEO 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:45.199 again to talk about it, and this is probably the 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:47.360 main concern, which would be cyber So are you at 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:49.920 def Con one right now? How deep? How high a 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:51.199 level of deaf con are you right now? 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:52.120 Chris? 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:55.000 Like a deaf Con two too, you know, but you 0:00:56.000 --> 0:01:00.440 gotta have awareness, you know, ultimately you don't want to 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:03.320 ever operate in dufton one, even in your regular, everyday 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:06.920 lives because your brain just gets tired to that and 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:09.480 you just degrade over time. So sure, you want to 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:11.280 be in heightened state awareness. And that's where we are 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:14.680 right now, just watching, watching everything. You know, you're always 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:17.080 watching intently anyway, just because you never know when someone's 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:19.920 going to try to creatively do something here in the 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:22.959 United States. But you know now it's it's just being 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:26.080 aware that you know more likely there's an imminent threat 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:26.679 that's happening. 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:29.600 We've often talked about a cyber nine to eleven coming 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:34.000 we saw now with AI and other sentence beings. Is 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:37.720 that we have faced crisses before, but we always talk 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:39.840 about like the big one, whether it's an earthquake, whether 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:41.600 it's a terrorist a physical terroist attack. 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:43.120 This would be more digital one. 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:46.360 Is that more likely now with this or less likely 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:48.680 because well we're on guard more on guard? 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:51.520 I guess yeah, So I think I think with this one, 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:55.040 when you look at you know, the big one, right 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:58.520 that would be coming from more of like a nation 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:03.160 state like China or Russia. They're not really going to 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:06.680 do those things unless they just decide day to just 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:08.840 make a consorted effort to just take out the United 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:10.880 the entire United States, because it would be a direct, 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:13.200 active war and it's very coordinated. It would take multi 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:17.440 nations to do it in this case, at least right 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:21.760 now anyway, because it's all about time and positioning. You know, 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:28.000 I don't the the adversaries from like you know that 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:30.800 that you know, Iran, et cetera. They do have the 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:34.640 you know, when you look at Iran or Hamas or 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:39.320 or the Taliban, et cetera, they have the technological ability 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:43.079 to do these same types of attacks. It doesn't take 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:45.200 long to do it. You can learn on YouTube. But 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:48.440 on top of that, Iran was funding the development of 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:52.200 very intense, very good tools in Iran use those. What 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:55.160 they were doing though, is giving those the terrorist organizations 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:59.320 and training them up. And so whereas Russia, where China 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:02.600 has had a lot longer to position themselves in our 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:04.799 water systems and things like that, just like beauded to them, 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:07.400 uh and and put hooks in there. 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:08.240 Uh. 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:11.720 These you know, Ran and these terrorist organizations haven't had 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:15.639 that same length of time. But they but guaranteed from 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:20.360 a you know, quote unquote cyber sleeper self standpoint, they've 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:24.080 embedded themselves in certain places that are considered them strategic 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:27.520 and you know, we're we're at war and I think 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:30.000 in the United States a lot we think the war's 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:35.120 over there, and generally that does happen, but cyber enables 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:36.560 the war to come here really quickly. 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:37.480 Yeah, it makes sense. 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:42.040 So Iranian process, give me a sense of things that 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:46.320 may have happened in a layman's terms, that Iran or 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.960 their proxies have done to us in the past. What 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:50.560 type of cyber attacks have we seen. 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:50.760 That we know? 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:52.200 Well? 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:54.680 So the and that's the that's the hard part, right 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.520 is attribution knowing that they're the ones that have actually 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:02.040 done this. We've had more military type approaches or hats 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:06.760 in t get data, uh, defense defense type approach where 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:11.480 they've packed into defense organizations. There's not there has not 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:16.160 been a attributed you know, critical infrastructure takedown in the 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:19.080 United States by Iran, and I think that was intentional 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.560 because they knew if we attributed that back to them, 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:25.360 we would just have destroyed them. But see, the thing 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:28.839 that's happened now is you know, just like you know, 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:32.880 President Trump said yesterday, if he's assassinated, he has instructions 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:36.760 for us to annihilate. You know, ran the same thing 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:39.720 happens there, you know, if you know for them, you know, 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:43.680 if the Iopola was taken out, guaranteed there's instructions to 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:47.159 sleep or cells to do certain things, you know, after 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:50.000 he's gone. And so that's the part that you have 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.440 to be aware of now, is that there would be 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:56.440 instructions already in play, whereas it wouldn't have been there 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:58.800 before because they wouldn't wanted to do it because we 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.159 weren't at war, right, And that's the thing we just 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:01.680 need to be aware. 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:04.320 We know Iran uses fake hacker groups as a front 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.760 so they can attack people that officially taking credit kind 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:10.559 of mentioned that but can't then Russia, China or pretty 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.479 much any other nation state do that to us to 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:14.080 try and make it look like it's Iran and not 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:15.720 them and use this as an opportunity. 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:16.599 Is that going to happen? 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:18.960 They absolutely can. And that's why I was going back 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:22.719 to attribution. It's really easy to make you look like 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.080 someone else, right, I mean, anybody. That's why we all 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:27.600 have VPNs. Right, we jump on a VPN, we can 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:29.279 make it look like we're coming from Arizona, or we 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:31.080 can make it look like we're coming from Poland, right, 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:34.599 And so you know, there's when you get into a 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:38.440 very high level advanced attackers, they're not just doing a VPN, 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:42.040 they're going through a VPN dark web, a system they 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:44.599 hacked in another country back to another one, and they've 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:48.760 got multiple layers deep, and so yeah, they absolutely can. Now, 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:52.680 one of the things that you find with tracking hackers 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.440 is at the end of the day, there's still the 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:58.360 poining code, and so a lot of times you can 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:01.080 look into that code and you can see the way 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:03.440 that someone writes or maybe they miss spell something the 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:05.200 same time in the same way, or they write the 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.839 same uh you know, uh, you know, the same type 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.719 of code, and when that happens, then you can say, okay, 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.039 well I know it's that person. But but still even 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:16.080 if they I you can you know, Russia could say 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:20.039 give me an Iranian uh you know of malware and 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.720 then just duplicate it and make it look like you Ran. 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:27.200 So yeah, we have to be really careful in the response. Absolutely. 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:27.640 Yeah. 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.039 So when we talk about Ran retelling a cybertext, what 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:31.839 does that actually mean for an ordinary American? Are we 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:34.200 talking about you know, your phone and your network going dark, 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:37.440 your bank account getting drained, the light's going out, what happened. 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:40.440 Yeah, I think all of those are on the table. 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:44.839 When you look at again, just just deposing them against 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.520 a Russia or a China, they're going to be less 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:52.120 apt to do attacks against the United States, right, just 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:55.360 like where lesser thing to do it. So then when 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.479 you and and the reason for that is because we 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:02.680 operate under rules primarily. And one thing that you know 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:05.400 I talked about before, there's a book called Unrestricted Warfare 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.240 that came out of the PLA and a couple of 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.960 generals wrote it, and what they said was the only 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:13.800 way to take out the United States is to operate 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.640 on a different rules than they do. And what they 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.760 realized is that the United States, in any real, big, 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:23.840 large nation has to operate off of some rules, and 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:26.560 those rules wrap around what you would do to people 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:30.600 or what you would do to infrastructure, because mass outages 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:34.360 can cause you know, significant widespread issues and even enough 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:36.760 to people start and invest and things like that. So 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:40.360 when you look at Iran, where you look at a 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:44.680 terrorist organization, they don't have rules, right, and so it's 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:49.040 a very unrestricted warfare, and we're really not playing on 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:52.400 the same level playing field. That's why you know, when 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:54.520 you look at why can navy fields do the things 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:59.000 navy fields do, is because they operate differently than a 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:02.120 larger know, a lot of larger army does, sure, and 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:04.840 so the same thing here. They're they're smaller groups, they're 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:08.160 more targeted. They can get into into into places that 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:11.240 others can't. And and so when it comes to what 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:14.240 should we be worried about, I don't. I wouldn't say 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.480 be worried, but I would say be prepared that you know, 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:20.000 you could lose. They could take out a water system 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:23.080 for for two weeks, they could take power down for 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:27.640 four and and I would prepare for this, not running 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.200 to the stores and grabbing tons of you all the 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:33.280 bread off the shelves, but I would over time, as 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:37.480 as just in your family, just have some extra food 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:39.520 that would last maybe a week or two, has some 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:43.880 extra water, because it's it's eminent something's going to happen 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.360 down the road that will take out for services here. 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:48.359 Well, well in Cincinnati. 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:50.800 All they have to do is somehow is create the 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.319 illusion that we might get snowfall like a classic. 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.400 We'd be riding like air is on fire. 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:02.319 He's the CEO of Cincinnai based vigilant cybersecurity Chris and 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.719 I heights on the Scot Sloan show seven hundred WLW 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:08.200 is Google and the government there at Google's top cyber 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.800 threat analyst said, Iran will absolutely respond with a cyber attack. 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:13.960 We talked about stuff they've done in the past. 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:18.439 You mentioned our infrastructure, Chris, I believe it was a 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:20.400 couple of years ago, three years ago maybe that Iran 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.599 and hackers got into the water treatment plant computers in 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.160 the US. Could you take us back how that happened 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.560 and what does that tell us about how vulnerable our 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:30.840 basic infrastructure is? And are we better at protecting it 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:32.120 now than we were three years ago? 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:35.640 Actually, we're not better at protecting it now that we were. 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.640 Cour were actually worse than we were. I would, you know, 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.960 I would say I was even that seven eight years 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:44.959 ago we were in a better position to protect than 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:49.520 we were than we are now. Right, because a lot 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:55.040 of the cyber the cybersecurity industry has reduced effectiveness. Uh 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:58.640 and and and I would I would actually say because 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:02.920 of margin, right and so and the other part of 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:07.200 it is that you know, is that companies have put 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:10.199 a lot of their things in the cloud right, And 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:14.480 so because they've done that, they've removed a lot of 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:19.400 the security at their physical locations when we went to 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.920 work from home. In a lot of cases, now the 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:27.000 attacks are more widespread, so it's a lot harder to find. 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.400 So are what we would call in the industry an 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:33.400 attack footprint. It got way way big. 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:34.440 Where it used to. 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:37.080 Be just at your office, now it's at everybody's home, 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:41.200 and so it's a lot harder. Or it's in the cloud, right, 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:43.160 So it's a lot harder to detect those things, and 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:46.319 a lot of organizations have made the decision to remove 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:50.240 the very security that could detect these things right now, 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:53.800 like even AI attacks, it's a lot easier to detect 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.400 AI attacks because we had a lot more data years ago, 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.920 but because companies have removed a lot of this security 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:02.120 the local location because they said, hey, data is in 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:05.560 the cloud, Well now it's up there. The other thing 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:09.960 that's interesting today is that now we have a lot 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:14.840 of people using the cloud as part of their everyday 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:18.720 business operations. And if you haven't noticed over the last 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.680 which I'm sure you have, over the last week, claud 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.880 has gone out you know a few times. Well, when 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.559 you know that claud is being used by the US 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:31.360 government to do AI targeting and things like that. Now 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:36.560 those technologies become targets by the attackers, right, and so 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:38.520 I look look at where the missiles have been going 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:43.760 for a rand. They've been going to aws locations in Dubai, right, 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:46.760 They've been hitting radar systems. So if you build your 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:51.320 entire operations of your company around a specific technology, and 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:54.200 that technology is also used by the US government, it's 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:57.760 going to be attacked, right, and you're gonna have autes. 0:11:58.040 --> 0:11:59.360 No, it makes sense, makes sense. 0:11:59.880 --> 0:12:04.679 The experts are flag and energy, water, transmission, banking, telecommunications, 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:06.560 as you just did, as priority targets. If you had 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:08.720 to pick the single most vulnerable sector in the US 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:12.360 right now for a cyber attack from the Iranians or 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:13.440 their proxies, what it would be? 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:14.080 What would it be? 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:14.520 In one. 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.480 You know, I would uh, I would say, if I 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.520 were to be the attacker, I would go after water. 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.640 Electricity is one thing. But we're not in the winter 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:29.520 right now, and so you know, it's it's not like 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.200 it's going to take heat out. You know, no one's 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:33.840 gonna you know, uh, you know, freeze, freeze to death. 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:37.160 At this point, I would go after water and so 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.080 and I would say both are electrical grid and our 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:44.280 water system are both you know at risk. We we 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.800 do know they were physical attacks. I mean remember, uh, 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:48.880 you know, I think they attributed that back to Rando 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:55.319 when people were firing rifles at transformers out you know. Now, 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:57.120 I think water is the first thing I think the 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:01.280 I think water. I think electricity follows water because if 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:04.520 we're without electricity here in the United States for you know, 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:06.920 ninety days, we we have a we're gonna have a 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:07.839 really really bad problem. 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.160 Is that possible that they can shut down at least 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:13.040 you know, we have several grids here, but shut things 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:16.440 down and to make that big an impact, Oh for sure. 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:18.000 I mean if you look at if you look at 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:21.040 the electrical grid, I mean remember years ago, uh, that 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:24.520 circuar breaker popped in the northeast and it took out 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:26.839 you know, and I think you know somewhere like New 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:30.640 Hampshire something that took out the entire right all the 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:32.920 way to Canada. So yes, I mean there are there 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.320 are very if you think about it, you know a 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:37.079 lot of a lot of our grid is held together 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:41.000 with you know, the proverbial you know, surge protector with 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:43.680 a bunch of stuff plugged into it. And so you know, 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:46.320 if you take out one of those facilities, and yeah, 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:48.920 it does the other. The other risk to it too 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:52.319 is that a lot of actually almost all of our 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:55.720 uh you know, big transformers that you see when you're 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:58.720 driving around. Those can't just be driven down the street. 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:01.360 They have to be flown in. And where they come 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:04.800 from is China, and China has like a two to 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.960 three year you know, backlog on this if they even 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:10.800 decide they're going to give us anymore. So you know, 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:12.800 if those things get taken out, it's not like you 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:14.880 have two or three of them. We have one, right 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:17.360 you know, in certain areas. So if that gets taken out, 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:21.160 it could be a significantly long time before this come 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.400 back on. But I would say from a cyber standpoint, 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.600 I would say our water is the most vulnerable. And 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:28.320 we already know that. You and I talked about that 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:30.200 a few you know, and I think what last month 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.960 is about two hundred and fifty of our water districts 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:37.040 are known to have attacks in it and right now 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:40.520 and you know that they can't get out. There's a 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:43.520 big news article on that, and you know we just 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:44.040 we have to do. 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.840 So so when that's happens and not have probably when 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:50.000 Chris and I heis, when a major cyber attack hits 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.800 critical in for church, let's say water power good, whatever 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.440 it is, What is the government's actual response going to 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.920 look like? And is it a credible deterrent that makes 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:00.560 around maybe think twice before on the trigger. 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.200 That's that's the thing. So one I think are there's 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:07.640 an internal response and I think that's something FEMAUS keeps 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:09.400 straight close because you don't want to let you know 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:11.840 your attackers know what your responses are going to be. 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:16.080 And I think that's why I think, you know, as 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:18.960 what the US is, you know, you know, I would say, 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:22.840 you know, kinetic or you know, you know, direct attack 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.400 action will be I think it would be pretty swift. 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.920 I mean, you know Donald Trump is you know, he's 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:32.120 he's big on making sure he he fights back pretty hard. 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:33.520 You know, you can see that. 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:34.640 Our response would be good. 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:36.640 I just wonder how prepared right to get everything back 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.040 online here Stateside? 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:38.240 Really? 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:40.200 What what the operation looks like? 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.360 Yeah, see, I think that's I think a good way 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:46.280 to look at that is, well, what happens when uh, 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.920 you know a snowstorm hits, right, and I take down 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.360 tons of things. You can see what that response looks like. 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:56.920 Think about that response, but you know, which is pretty good, right. 0:15:57.320 --> 0:16:00.080 But those responses are because you know, if it's that 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.200 happens in Florida, they're bringing all the trucks from all 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:05.040 over the United States down to Florida. I don't think 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:09.280 we have the enough trucks and people to go fix 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:11.760 all of these things. And that's where I would say this. 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:14.280 If there's anything I would tell people in the United 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:17.240 States is you know, you said, how are we better 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:20.800 prepared now than we were before? You know, there's a 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:23.880 technological aspect of that, and then there's a people part 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.280 of that. And I would say it is something like 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:29.920 this happened in the fifties for the sixties. I think 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.720 people were a lot more self sufficient and they knew 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:35.520 how to take care of themselves, right, I think, and 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:37.360 I'm not saying that we don't as an as a 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.080 society know how to take care of ourselves. But we 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:41.640 don't have to do that in our everyday lives. You know, 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:43.600 we don't have to think about power, we don't have 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.120 to think about water. I'll tell you this this story. 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.680 I was just reading this on Twitter, this guy that 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.080 he posted this up and he said he had been 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:57.040 driving by this water main break for like four weeks 0:16:57.640 --> 0:16:59.280 and like, I mean, water is show in the street. 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:01.920 And so he calls the water department and he goes, hey, 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:05.359 do you guys know about this wire may break? And 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:09.399 they said no, we don't, and uh, and so what 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.159 had happened? You know, he thought about it later and 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:15.960 he thought, I bet all of these people, thousands of 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:19.480 people drive by us every day, including him for four weeks, 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:22.840 just thought somebody else was going to call. And and 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:26.159 that's where for us as Americans, you know, you know, 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:28.280 one thing that's always been a strength of ours is 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:32.280 we come together. And so if something were to happen, 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:35.480 which I believe it will eventually, whether it's small or big, 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:39.359 don't rely on the guys in the trucks to just 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:42.600 go fix things. Right Like, we gotta we gotta start 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:45.880 getting back to where we we go help each other 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:50.000 and we we really come together as Americans and we 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:53.640 bring these things back online in whatever way we can together. 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:56.399 It sounds like Chris that that back in post nine 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.680 to eleven. If you see something, say something We've got 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:03.960 to rebrand that imaging for today makes a lot of sense. Chris, 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:07.520 I heist the CEO of Vigilant Cybersecurity here in Cincinnati. 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:10.280 You've been warned about what Iran is most likely to do. 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:13.960 Seem more cyber than it is physical terrorism hitting America's 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:15.639 homeland here, Chris, all the best. Thanks for jumping on 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:18.240 this morning. I appreciate it. Good take care. We got 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:20.359 to get a news update in and quickly more to 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:22.480 follow her. We got that's going to rain for the 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:25.639 next thirty years. Did I just blow the forecast? I 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:27.280 thought I did. Anyway, I'll find up. I'm right here 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:29.720 in seconds on seven hunderd WLW. 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:32.280 Slowly with you. 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:36.080 Here seven hundred WLW, meandering through this Tuesday morning with you. 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:38.439 It feels like a second cup of cop maybe a 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:41.719 third or fourth cup of copy day you already had 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:43.159 your second cup of cough. 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:45.960 All right, Now that. 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:49.600 The smoke is settling somewhat from the attacks on Saturday, 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:52.480 what now, seventy two plus hours after this whole thing, 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:54.920 I think it's time to take a step back and 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.720 look at what we're doing here, Because, first of all, 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:00.440 I don't about you, but for me, for the first 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:03.760 couple days of this thing, I was celebrating and celebrating 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:06.920 the fact that Kamani is dead. I mean, this guy, 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:12.120 by all measures, was a despot who ruled for almost 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:16.639 forty years, almost four decades of just brutality against his 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:19.879 own people, cracking down on its dissenters. We saw a 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:24.879 growth in Islamic extreme extremism. We saw a target attacks 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:29.720 on civilized nations like the United States. And we've been 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:33.879 fighting with this region since nineteen seventy nine, or this 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:36.359 per country. I guess I should say the region much longer. 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:40.080 But guy was an evil, evil man, And I think 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:43.399 that the people of Iran would be better off with 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:46.680 new leadership for sure. But okay, I think we can 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:50.400 all agree on that. But it doesn't mean that better 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:55.200 leadership will rise out of what's going on here. According 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:57.400 to the Federal Government court, I believe to the CIA 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:02.320 that there's a chance that it may be replaced by 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:08.080 someone who's worse. You want to hope, like with Arab Spring, 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:10.720 that the people will rise up, overthrow the regime and 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:15.040 install democracy once again, or a democratic form of government, 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:18.040 or certainly a much more tolerable type of government there. 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:20.720 But if you look back at our history, at least 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:25.639 in my lifetime and maybe yours, we haven't done very well. 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:27.720 As a matter of fact, we suck. 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:33.320 At trying to create regime change to try and make 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:37.399 look like American democracy. I listened to all the I 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:40.879 think there were at least fifteen instances in world history 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:43.080 where America's tried it in our short two hundred and 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:48.240 fifty years done this to little if no success. It 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:50.800 actually made even things worse in a number of cases. 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:54.840 So now that Commanie, we celebrate Commandie's dead. Okay, regime change, 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:56.399 Maybe the people rise up and let's see what this 0:20:56.480 --> 0:21:00.000 looks like. Now the reality is setting in right here 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:02.920 on this Tuesday morning, and I think in this case, 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:08.760 you know, the president offered pretty much not much justification 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:10.399 for the strike. You're still trying to figure out the 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:14.600 why at this point, and we should still be a 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:17.960 little bit leery of this too, considering most of us 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:22.560 lived through uh the you know a Rock one point oh, 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:26.800 Rock two point zero, and the mantra about no new wars, 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:30.240 much like the mantra about we're going to open up 0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:32.000 all the Epstein files, Well, how do those he's oh 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:34.400 for two on those things. So the no new war 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:36.399 thing went out the window, and certainly the Epstein files 0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:37.160 thing went out the window. 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:37.600 What else. 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:40.639 As a matter of fact, members of the Gang of 0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:45.040 Eight Nations were brief yesterday on the attacks, and coming 0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:48.600 out of the meeting, Mike Johnson said, relative to an 0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:50.800 explanation for this through Marco. 0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:53.119 Rubio, that it was a defensive strike. 0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:56.359 Okay, So this is a difference because they were a 0:21:56.400 --> 0:21:58.600 massing what you know, there are massing stuff where they go. 0:21:58.840 --> 0:21:59.919 Where have I heard that before? 0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:03.199 So pardon me if I'm a skeptic of this, as 0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:05.879 much as I celebrate the overthrow of this horrible regime 0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:10.760 and hoping for better but expecting the worst. Like we 0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:15.960 have been told that Iran was weeks away from nuclear weaponry, 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:19.600 and as somebody who's since the nineteen nineties, as what 0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:24.960 like thirty forty thirty years ago, we started a war 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:29.560 we're losing now, we've lost what six military personnel, and 0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:31.439 we've been told this is about well, they might have 0:22:31.480 --> 0:22:34.919 they're developing nuclear webs Okay, But even if they did 0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:40.119 acquire it, which they haven't for thirty years, Israel acquired 0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:43.720 nukes illegally with the help of South Africa. I mean, 0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:45.760 you know, they're are our allies. I get that whole thing. 0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:49.360 But you know they kid Israel take care of themselves. 0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:53.520 Sure at this point, and several members of Congress said 0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:56.200 while they were talking the administration and they were told 0:22:56.200 --> 0:22:58.520 that missiles in southern Iran were an imminent threat to US. 0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:00.439 FORRCE is the region, and the missiles been there for 0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:02.840 a long time. It doesn't mean that they weren't going 0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:04.400 to press the button at some point and at Thatack 0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:06.600 is sure. But the idea that this is a clear 0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:08.480 and present danger right now, well, you know, when you're 0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:12.840 up in the three decade mark here, maybe that's just 0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:15.359 the way things are. And I get the you know, 0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:20.440 the motive for this whole thing is well, I mean 0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:23.320 I look at what is the motive for the Why 0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:26.239 are we doing it now? I guess it is there 0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:29.960 a perceived weakness theirs because we have this giant uprising 0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:35.200 among the students and they've been tortured, condemned, executed. It's 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:38.000 a questered, jocked, locked up, thrown away the key and 0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:39.639 now this is a moment in time or hey, you 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:41.280 know what, the people are rising up, Let's help them out. 0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:44.760 Little bit possibly, and when will that happen again, We 0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:49.239 don't know, But the question is the why now. As 0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:51.240 much as we want to see regime change in Iran 0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:54.119 and we're having regime change right now, it doesn't seem 0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:56.680 like this is well planned out, like there's an exit strategy. 0:23:56.720 --> 0:23:58.399 The criticism was that under Bush, we don't have an 0:23:58.400 --> 0:24:01.760 exit strategy while we're doing that again, And I think 0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:05.080 it's fair as an American, especially if you consider yourself, 0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:06.720 you know, a patriot has a lot of people do 0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:10.400 to ask tough questions administration, going look, what's our axistrategy, 0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:14.080 what's the end goal here? Why would this effort at 0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:17.320 regime change be any different? But typically what winds up 0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:20.080 happening is we do these things, we see them and go, okay, great, 0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:23.200 it's awesome's let's help, and we try to change it, 0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:25.480 and then we just give up because well, we have 0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:29.119 metrum elections or president's going to turn out here in 0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:32.360 three years, and all they have to do is keep 0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:34.320 at this for four years, I suppose, because new regime 0:24:34.320 --> 0:24:35.960 will come in and go, we're not doing this war stuff. 0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:37.920 We're pulling everything out, and you know, we pull the 0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:41.280 carpet out on what it is. We spent lives and 0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:43.679 a lot of money on We did this not that 0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:45.600 long ago, and we're about to do it again. I 0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:48.560 just want a plan. We've already done it. Okay, the 0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:52.160 beast has been decapitated. Great, we can't put that back together, 0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:54.720 nor should we. We should be celebrating the Commandian is 0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:57.000 no longer in power. But we've really got to come 0:24:57.080 --> 0:24:59.600 up with a plan here, you know, just kind of 0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:03.119 spit this thing. Rubyosaying one thing, Johnson saying another. Trump's 0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:05.639 not saying anything. Kind of need some a little bit 0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:07.679 of a containment here, don't we? 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:08.520 Would you agree? 0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:12.680 I know the Democrats are gonna and they're about as 0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:14.280 facktless as possible here. 0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:15.240 They have no juice. 0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:17.800 They're going to lose a vote to check the authority 0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:20.200 to strike Iran, and they're preparing for a bigger fight 0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:22.600 over the funding. So you got the War Powers Resolution 0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:24.760 vote coming up. We could see that as soon as 0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:28.720 I believe tomorrow. This may indeed, this whole thing might 0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:31.639 bring the Democratic Party together on process anyway. But you 0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:32.960 know they're going to talk about a funding them, but 0:25:32.960 --> 0:25:35.119 Bernie Sanders wants to shut the funding down, controlling the 0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:39.920 purse strings. Another Democrat said, the Middle Eastern countries we've 0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:43.200 been protecting need to pay for it. Sounds very trumpish, 0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:45.800 which is true. They've got the oil money. Should they 0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:50.080 be throwing money in and trying to move things along 0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:52.920 here or have a bigger role in regime change in Iran? 0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:54.440 At least they're a little bit closer to this thing, 0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:56.040 and it kind of gets our fingerprints off with to 0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:59.200 some degree. I think there are legitimate questions to ask 0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:01.920 that because people but are so in their own heads, 0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:04.080 are in their own camp political camp that they don't 0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:07.360 want to but hell, I mean, you're looking at progressives 0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:11.720 here and MAGA Republicans United, and you don't see that 0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:12.320 very often. 0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:14.439 Now that I'll tell you something that should tell you something. 0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:18.320 Nonetheless, the Dow was taken into the shorts today it's down. 0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:20.919 The Dow is down about a thousand points or now 0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:23.320 I'm seeing the New York section down about thousand points 0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:25.960 right now, Dow Jones Industrial, So that's what two percent 0:26:26.720 --> 0:26:29.199 it is plunging right now. Stocks are selling off amid 0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:31.480 the conflict that we're talking about here. Coming up at 0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:33.719 eleven thirty five later the show, Andy schafferl be here 0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:36.040 to calm you down a little voice or reason. We've 0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:38.040 done this before and now I guarantee you what he's 0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:41.200 going to say is that, look, people are. 0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:43.280 Panicking right now. They're selling. Doesn't mean you should. 0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:45.480 If you're a long term investor, you're four one k 0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:47.760 whatever it is that you have, whether you're off I Ira, 0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:50.040 if you got a little bit of money, don't flip 0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:53.359 or you know what, just be cool right now, or 0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:56.360 maybe shift some money into different things to take advantage 0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:58.280 of this. But they want to be pulling all your 0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:00.560 money out because everyone's hair is on fire on Wall 0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:03.440 Street right now. It will recover, as it always does. 0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:10.080 That's how it works. That's how it works. Made Chris 0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:11.880 and I heis on a few minutes ago talking about 0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:13.520 these cyber attacks. I will point out to that a 0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:15.959 third person now is dead in that actual attack in Austin, 0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:18.280 in that mass shooting by the guy in the Allah 0:27:18.280 --> 0:27:21.119 sweatshirt or whatever it was, and that is more of 0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:23.800 like a lone wolf thing, not really like sleep or sell, 0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:25.719 which we have a fear of. But the biggest concern, 0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:28.920 of course, would be cyber attacks here in Americas. Chris 0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:31.160 was talking about because Iranians have been doing this, and 0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:33.680 they have had a plan together for about fifteen years now, 0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:37.240 the most recent hitting US in twenty twenty three when 0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:40.440 a water treatment facility was attacked and shut down. 0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:42.440 And he seems to think that that is. 0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:46.000 Maybe not a likely or probable scenario, but that is 0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:49.199 the one that would have the biggest impact, that they 0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:52.440 could start shutting down water systems, because water today is gold, 0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:54.720 as you know around the world, but especially here in 0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:57.240 the US. Now we're blust because we have all sorts 0:27:57.280 --> 0:27:59.919 of of aquifers, the Ohio River, we've got the Great Lakes, 0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:03.879 and here in our state in Ohio, but out west, 0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:07.360 as you know, the desert in California, they are struggling 0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:09.439 when it comes to water. Wouldn't take much to topple 0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:12.760 all that, and some sort of attack would certainly do that, 0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:14.920 and do a lot more than a physical bombing or 0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:17.760 something like that. I would think that that's probably more 0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:20.360 likely than some sort of physical effect, not that both 0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:24.920 can't happen together, but certainly that is a possibility here 0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:28.119 as we move forward and thinking about our infrastructure. You know, 0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:30.720 look at how many people flipped out, maybe you, maybe me, 0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:34.200 you know, Verizon went down for a little bit. When 0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:37.640 Amazon goes down or Twitter, people lose their minds. Could 0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:40.120 you imagine like the water electric I mean water would 0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:42.920 be one thing, but I think the electrical gride if 0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:44.719 they had a problem to shut down the grade. Now 0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:47.040 you can't charge your phone, you can't use stuff. That's 0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:49.040 a huge problem right there. That is a huge problem. 0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:51.880 But I think in the reality is back to government. 0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:55.440 That that's the problem. Is that the private sector does really, 0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:58.360 really well because money's involve. Their money's involved, the skin 0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:01.000 is in the game, The CEO answers, the shareholders, the 0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:03.960 shareholders of the CEO accountable, and it trickles on down. 0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:07.840 If you screw something up relative to it cybersecurity, you're 0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:09.760 going to pay a heavy toll heads a roll because 0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:12.840 that's people's money. Where's the government is. They don't look 0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:14.920 at it as their money. They look at it as 0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:17.360 kind of free money. This is no accountability. We often 0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:19.880 talk about government waste, fraud, and abuse. Well, that's true, 0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:22.880 and especially when it comes to cybersecurity. You know, him 0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:25.800 saying that we're probably worse today than we were yesterday 0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:27.680 is not exactly what you want to hear from a 0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:31.120 guy who is in the cybersecurity game. But that is 0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:33.840 just typical of government, and that's why we in some 0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:36.000 degree have to prepare ourselves. It doesn't mean, you know, 0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:39.560 the are going to stockpile fifty pallets of water drinking 0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.600 water because of this, or I don't know, put some 0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:47.320 solar farm in your backyard, order giant propane tanks, underground diesel, 0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:49.600 build your own nuclear reactor in your spare time. I 0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:52.840 don't know, Because you know, I think in that regard 0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:56.720 that preppers, the doomsdairs have a have something that's admirable 0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:58.120 is that they can take care of themselves for a 0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:01.720 sustainable period. Our phones go out, we can't get on Twitter. 0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:03.720 People who say they're ready to jump off a bridge. 0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:06.440 The last time that happened, I can't get out. I 0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:09.640 can't check the I just bought a fifteen dozen socks 0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:12.880 on Amazon. I can't check what when is my deliver 0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:15.200 where's my package coming? People are ready to kill themselves 0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:17.480 in each other when that happens. I think a little 0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:21.800 preparedness is a good thing here. But we'll see what happens. 0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:25.600 Because the Iranians, at least, if anything, they do have proxies, 0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:28.360 and they are maybe not the best but they're still 0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:30.680 pretty good at cyber attacks. It's cheap and it's very 0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:33.560 very effective. That is the biggest concern. It's a Scott 0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:36.680 Flown show on seven hundred wwe coming up at ten 0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:39.560 oh seven. We'll go in a different direction here. You 0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:42.400 ever notice the debate over the climate is just well, 0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:45.640 everything's polarizing these days, but especially climate debate. Like you 0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:49.440 have people that are screaming that all the scientists are 0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:51.560 in the take and it's not happening. Everything's good even 0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:55.080 though you know scientists, you still measure things, and we 0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:57.920 have the technology to measure things, and the planet's wiring 0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:01.080 by a degree or two. But it's just a degree 0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:04.440 or two. Is that big deal? Well, I'll say yes, okay. 0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:06.560 On the other side, you have people like Greta Thurnberg, 0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:09.280 like if we don't stop what we're doing right now, 0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:12.400 she said a few years ago that the world's gonna end, 0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:15.200 I don't know at midnight. Well that that's not true, 0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:18.680 that's not true at all. As a matter of fact, 0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:22.880 we've heard these cries before where it's it's doomsday, it's 0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:25.320 the world is ending, and it doesn't really come to fruition. 0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:27.600 You heard about you know, the whole theozone the ozone 0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:31.960 layer deals on the it fixed itself. We also heard 0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:35.560 and I think this is interesting too. The story just 0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:38.800 came out today. The US birth rate. Remember it wasn't 0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:40.200 long ago. I mean maybe it was back in the 0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:44.920 sixties before my time, but the concern was over population growth, 0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:48.640 out of control population. You know, the Chinese instituted a 0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:52.280 plan and it was pretty brutal as a matter of fact, 0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:55.680 which led to the the death of a lot of girls. 0:31:57.120 --> 0:32:00.320 Uh you prior toorist boys, because you know, we're reducing 0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:03.240 too much. It's getting too big. Here in the United States. 0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:05.920 The concern was a zero population. Population growth is going 0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:07.920 to kill us. We can't sustain ourselves. That was back 0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:11.920 in the sixties and into the seventies. Story today, the 0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.600 nation's birth rate, the number of live births per thousand 0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:17.400 people in a given year, is now down by more 0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:22.200 than twenty five percent since two thousand and seven. So 0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:26.400 in twenty years it's down twenty five percent. Factor in 0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:29.560 a drop in immigration, and you know, look at the 0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:32.160 falling birth rates. It's it's a big problem. We need 0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:36.000 workers to support an aging population because workers pay taxes, 0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:40.360 so there's concern there if it drops twenty five percent 0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:43.520 since two thousand and seven, how is how is how 0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:46.120 are things our systems sustainable? Before we had too many people, 0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:48.320 Now we don't have enough people. And that's happened in 0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:52.000 my lifetime, let alone yours. So if we're wrong about that, 0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:54.800 could we be wrong about the environment, maybe to some degree. 0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:59.200 But again the extremism of Grete Thurnberg versus the extremism 0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:01.840 of people saying it everything is fine. There's some sort 0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:04.000 of truth in the middle. Coming up at ten oh seven, 0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.240 Chuck Lorie's the chair of the Greater Cincinnati Earth Coalition. 0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:08.520 We'll debate this coming up at that ten oh seven 0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:10.640 this morning here in the Scots Loan Show on seven 0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:13.880 hundred WLW. And well, as I said too, we'll keep 0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:15.920 an eye on the markets. We have that coming out. 0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:17.720 I also want to get into at ten thirty five 0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:20.680 this morning. I had a discussion yesterday about this time 0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:23.560 with Anna Alby, council member friend of mine. I like 0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:28.200 Anne a lot. We have now caught the two individuals 0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:34.640 most likely responsible for the nine people being shot Saturday 0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:39.680 night in Cincinnati on Kellogg Avenue at the club thirty 0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:42.760 five hundred people there clowns walk in with guns and 0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:46.920 started shooting. I made a prediction, a bold prediction with her, 0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:49.080 and we'll get into that at ten thirty five this 0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:52.960 morning and examine what's really wrong here when it comes 0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:54.920 to our laws and guns and the like. So we 0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:57.160 got that coming up. Lots to do this morning on 0:33:57.200 --> 0:34:00.760 this very busy Tuesday here with the this moving in 0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:03.720 full forecast here, it's again it's just going to go. 0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:05.560 It's going to rain forever. It looks like at this 0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:06.440 point we'll find out. 0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:08.479 We'll get that in and then I said Chuck Lourie 0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:11.040 coming up from the Greater Cincinnati Earth Coalition at ten 0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:13.480 oh six on the Scott Sloan Show, seven hundred ww 0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:15.040 becomes so polarized. 0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:15.960 You're just the environment, right. 0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:18.680 We all like to go outside and bread, clean air, 0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:20.560 go to the parks, whoever it might be. If you're 0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:23.120 great at Thurnberg, I'm not trying to hear you. The 0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:27.320 world isn't going to end before the season finale of Surviving. Likewise, 0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:29.960 if I don't know they're the Cook brothers, for example, 0:34:30.080 --> 0:34:32.440 the size is pretty clear. The planet is changing. I mean, 0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:34.799 you got oil money trying to predict your investments. And 0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:36.799 then I get while you're trying to convince me, and 0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:40.040 you know, seeding people who will be your mouth piece. 0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:42.480 I understand, I know the world works, but you know, 0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:47.200 as always, the truth is in between the extremes. To 0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:49.799 answer that question is Chuck Laurie. Chuck is the chair 0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:53.280 of the Greater Cincinnati Earth Coalition. Earth Day, of course, 0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:55.840 is approaching, I think next month. Chuck, welcome, How are you. 0:34:57.160 --> 0:34:59.160 I'm doing great, Thanks too much for having me. 0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:00.200 Yeah, of course. 0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:04.799 The problem is, and I guess because you've been in 0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:08.320 this for a long time, you have people who absolutely 0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:10.600 want to change the planet overnight. If they're up to them, 0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:12.680 they would get rid of all fossil fuels immediately. 0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:14.640 Somehow, I don't know how you do that. 0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:16.960 On the other hand, people saying everything's fine, little sort 0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:20.560 itself out, which we've got to be better stewards the planet, 0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:23.280 for sure. But how did Earth Day or the environmental 0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:26.040 how did this become in conservation all that stuff and 0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:28.440 climate change? How did it get so polarized? How did 0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:30.040 we get to the point today where we don't even 0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:30.719 hear each other. 0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:34.719 Well, that's a good question. Luckily we don't have that 0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:37.440 much of the polarization here in Cincinnati. 0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:39.799 Do you have a sense of like, we care, but 0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:41.399 we can only do so much. 0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:43.120 Every little bit helps. 0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:48.319 It's a lot of initiatives. I mean, something that the 0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:52.319 city's focused on is just reducing food waste. You know, 0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:56.680 thirty percent of waste that goes into the landfill is 0:35:56.800 --> 0:36:01.640 food which can be recycled. You know, some of these 0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:03.640 things make just common sense. 0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:07.840 Yeah, I remember touring, I said, a volunteering are some 0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:11.040 Matthew twenty five minut ministries a few years ago, and 0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:14.359 it was remarkable to me, Chuck that if you go 0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:16.280 in there and there's a lot of clothes and sundryes 0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:19.640 and things like that, but sample products from P and 0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:23.120 G for example, like I don't know, sunscreen, let's say, 0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:26.360 or the Campbell soup company, if the label was crooked 0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:28.239 on a can of soup, they couldn't sell it. It's 0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.640 something they want to the law says, you can't sell it. See, 0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:32.640 you had all these Kansas soup they're perfectly find that 0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:34.840 in the past would have ended up in a landfill. 0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:37.480 Ditto for the sunscreen and all these other products, and 0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:42.160 instead Matthew twenty five ships it to war torn or 0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:46.040 natural disaster stricken countries to help people there along with 0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:49.239 the clothes like Sintas may have a misprint on a 0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:52.399 logo on a shirt or a name tag that would 0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:54.680 end up in a landfill. Usually they do a wonderful 0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:56.840 job of this, And I know that's something when it 0:36:56.880 --> 0:37:00.960 comes to environment and helping people, helping mankind, And you're 0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:03.400 right about that. It's like, well that's common sense stuff. 0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:06.400 You know, the food waste restaurants throw a ton of 0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:09.440 food away? Could that be better suited to going to 0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:11.359 homeless shelf because I know there's a lot of other 0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:13.880 there's organizations to do that in Cincinnati, but do it 0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:16.120 on a bigger scale. Stuff like that, Like sometimes the 0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:20.320 laws and health code and are in direct conflict with this. 0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:22.640 And that's just all common sense slam dun stuff that 0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:25.960 Whether you believe in climate change or you think it's 0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:28.240 all made up, I think we all agree on that. 0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:29.040 That's a good idea. 0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:34.800 Well, yeah, and the city has just rolled out composting 0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:37.719 bends all throughout the city in each each of the 0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:40.839 fifty two neighborhoods. I just got one here at Mount 0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:44.920 Storm Park in Clifton, so you just it's free for 0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:48.520 three months. You just get called up. Sign up gets 0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:52.320 your code and you can put your composed of food 0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:54.439 waste in there, and. 0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:56.279 Then you turn that into what mult right you could 0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:57.640 throw out your garden or on your lawn. 0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:02.680 It's the common orchard. Try Projeck here in Cincinnati turns 0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:07.160 it into multi and then they sell that. And but 0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:12.759 it's a terrific process. And I'd like everybody to check 0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:18.200 out the Common Orchards project dot org and and make 0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:22.200 this composting test of success for these first three months. 0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:24.680 I tried that years and years ago, and I was 0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:26.840 really I was really bad at it. It seems like 0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:30.359 it should be pretty easy, but I struggled mightily with it. 0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:33.680 Chuck like I put, I forget it so long ago 0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:35.360 I forgot. But I was like, Okay, guy got some 0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:36.799 leaves in the yard and I did that. You put 0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:38.719 layers in the whole thing, and I think it's still 0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:40.480 sitting there. I don't think it's compost at all. I 0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:41.560 think Mother Nature hates me. 0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:47.960 Oh, I'm sure it's composted by now. But it's easy 0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:52.399 to do. Just coffee grounds, food waste, just take. Don't 0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:57.520 put cape in there. And cardboard is great, you know, 0:38:57.560 --> 0:39:01.600 you just layer it, h give it a try. All 0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:03.960 the instructions are on the bend, you'll see them. They're 0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:06.240 all around the city. 0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:08.400 Now, Yeah, they've made it much easier. I think it 0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:12.920 accessible for people too. There's I think the problem with 0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:16.360 the divide we have with environmentalism and it's become so polarized, 0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:18.839 is there's friction points. Right, there's like a small inconvenience 0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:23.040 that stop people from taking action even they want to do. 0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:24.239 You see that around here a lot. 0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:26.799 I mean I mentioned the difficulties or at least in 0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:29.319 my mind, with composting, it's kind of a small step. 0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:31.400 I got to throw stuff out anyway? Why not to 0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:33.480 do that? But it's like, wow, it didn't work for me. 0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:36.560 Are there other friction points like that to just prevent 0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:39.239 people from from being better about it? 0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:46.320 Well, riding a bicycle the Queen City Trails has created 0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:51.400 a great matrix of bikeable paths, you know, the the 0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:57.400 bike paths along Central Parkway just removes that barrier that 0:39:57.480 --> 0:40:00.960 it's dangerous to interface with cars. Now you have your 0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:03.799 own bike lane. Well. 0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:05.719 I also think though too, that you know you want 0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:07.880 to go to work? Do you want to? I mean 0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:09.839 there's some days where it's absolutely beautiful. Love to ride 0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:11.880 my bike, but you know, for most of the weather 0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:14.439 we just had over the winter, and then of course 0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:16.000 the summer is brutally hot as well. 0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:17.359 For a lot of people. That's a turn off. 0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:23.120 Well starting little little parts, you know, just bike when 0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:26.279 you can, so they we've got great bike trails to 0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:26.680 do that. 0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:30.719 What about topping off your gas. I'm a topper, Chuck, 0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:32.400 I'll be honest with you. I know it's just signs 0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:34.319 up all of it. Don't top off your field. I 0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:36.640 got to hit that number exactly on the gas pump. 0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:37.759 I'm a bad person, right. 0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:46.279 I think they're saying, don't fill up after sunset or 0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:49.200 you know, try to fill up after sunset when the 0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:52.480 emissions aren't going to be that large and the. 0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:54.200 Lines are shorter there too. I got to hit that 0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:56.600 exact number. If it's like, you know, fifty bucks, I 0:40:56.600 --> 0:40:58.480 got to hit fifty bucks on those. Otherwise I got 0:40:58.480 --> 0:40:59.319 to go up to fifty one. 0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:01.840 It drives me. The OCD is real in my life. 0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:04.920 He's Chuck Laurier at the Greater Cincinnati Earth Coalition and 0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:08.319 talking about how we got so divided. Whether you're either 0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:10.359 on the Greta Thurnberg side or the Hey it's all 0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:11.960 a lie and it's all made up and it's all 0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:15.279 politics side. There's no oxygen left in the room to say, hey, 0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:18.120 could we be better at protecting the environment. I think 0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:20.799 the other element here too that gets lost, Chuck, is 0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:23.040 we also have to recognize we live here and now 0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:27.080 and today that with the debate over fossil fuels, for example, 0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:29.480 oil is going to be around. We're going to be 0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:32.120 dependent on for our lifetimes and probably the next couple 0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:34.960 of lifetimes. It's just the way it is, you know. 0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:37.279 I think people say we've got to do more in America. 0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:39.480 Maybe it's more the little things like you're talking about, 0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:42.080 but the big seismic changes in switching all over to 0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:45.440 solar and wind and renewables. 0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:46.399 Is a tough ask. 0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:49.840 Is it reasonable to admit as an environmental It's like, 0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:52.200 you know, the people who want to do this overnight 0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:53.920 are equally out of their minds. 0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:58.319 Well, it's not going to be done overnight. I mean 0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:05.320 it's a small smalls you know, put solar on your apps, 0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:10.319 driving an electric car are both becoming less expensive and 0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:11.520 that'll really drive it. 0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:14.600 But the problem with evs of course it still depends 0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:17.000 on fossil fuel to charge that vehicle. 0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:22.759 Well, the city Cincinnati is invested in a lot in 0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:26.000 some solar arrays. You know, twenty percent of the city's 0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:32.279 electricity comes from their solar array. It's a lot of 0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:34.280 small bites of the apple. 0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:37.040 Yeah, no, no, that makes sense. If you can convert 0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:39.640 solar to energy, I mean, do it. And it's because 0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:41.680 the technology are getting better. It's not something that's going 0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:43.640 to happen overnight. And we also have to consider we 0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:46.960 live in America. When you talk about what's happening here, 0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:49.560 I think we're much better environmental stewards. And let's say 0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:52.239 China or India for sure, and that's the problem. We've 0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:54.600 got to compete with their economies. I think that's a 0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:57.799 realism that some environmentalists don't want to recognize it. It 0:42:57.840 --> 0:43:00.880 should be more on us. But if they're not doing it, 0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:04.040 if they're not leaning into it, can what we do 0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:04.800 here offset that? 0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:10.960 Oh? Absolutely? You know, we we have the Cincinnati recycling 0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:13.840 and reuse of you know, you can recycle every type 0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:17.920 of plastic at the Hub. It's it's an amazing resource 0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:25.399 and literally everything even your genes and aluminum foil. It's 0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:27.520 all recyclable. Yeah. 0:43:27.640 --> 0:43:30.560 And that's the other thing to you here is that 0:43:30.840 --> 0:43:33.800 sometimes if you put stuff in recycling container, which I recycle, 0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:37.160 but there's been some studies, don't reports anyway that indicate 0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:39.360 that maybe not all that stuff gets recycled, it just 0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:41.400 gets thrown in the landfill anyway. Is that true or 0:43:41.440 --> 0:43:42.960 is that Are we getting better at that at the 0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:43.799 recycling end? 0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:47.239 Oh not at all. You know you Rumpky loves to 0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:50.279 give you tours. We were lucky to have Rumpy. They 0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:55.680 have the best recycling program in the country. They take 0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:57.480 a lot of a lot of stuff. The HUBB will 0:43:57.520 --> 0:44:01.680 take the rest. Yes, it's important to know what you 0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:04.040 can put in those recycling bends. You know it's not 0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:07.319 with recycle, right, Don't put syrophoam in there because you 0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:08.600 wish they could recycle it. 0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:11.040 But if it has that little logo on it, does 0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:13.520 that mean it's recyclable? You know, the little triangle made 0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:16.800 with arrows. I thought that meant that's recyclable. 0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:21.480 Only specific ones in the Rumpty bins. But the hub 0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:26.640 they take all those all those numbers, and that is. 0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:28.520 Again it's not one of those little hurdles, right, You 0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:30.600 look at it going well, I don't know if Rumpky's 0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:32.759 going to use this am I if I put you know, 0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:35.200 Kroger bags in there, we can't recycle those because it 0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:38.319 comes up the machine. But it seems like they change 0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:40.120 the standards all the time, like they're getting better at 0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:42.960 recycling different things. And I think that's one of those 0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:45.960 roadblocks for people, right is like, Wow, you're you're overwhelming 0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:47.960 with well this minutia. I want to do the right thing, 0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:50.600 but you're making it more difficult. I mean, at some point, 0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:52.840 hopefully we'll be able to throw all our trash and 0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:55.160 I'll sort it all out using AI and lasers and 0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:57.240 all this other cool technology, but we're. 0:44:57.040 --> 0:44:57.680 Not there yet. 0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:04.040 Well, other countries like Japan, it's the culture of recycling. Germany, 0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:07.200 it's the culture. You go to the train station in Germany, 0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:11.760 there's there's six different recycling bends, even for different colors 0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:16.440 of blass. So it starts with the parents teaching the kids, 0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:20.080 starts with the kids teaching the parents. But it is 0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:20.760 an education. 0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:23.200 Why do you think they lean into that more than 0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:25.640 we do here because you have two recycling bins and 0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:28.200 it's confusing. I'd stand there for a half hour fight, 0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:29.879 had six trying to figure out which one to throw 0:45:29.880 --> 0:45:30.080 it in. 0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:32.919 I'll come there. It's more ingrained here, not so much. 0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:39.400 Well, they it costs more. Gasoline costs more in Germany 0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:44.240 and Japan, and you know, resources cost more. So it's 0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:47.000 it's you know, we we were lucky here in the States. 0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:52.759 They have huge you know, landfill pills, but as we 0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:56.319 get more developed, that'll be uh, you know, I have 0:45:56.400 --> 0:45:58.440 the same problems that Japan and Germany do. 0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:02.399 Chuck Laurie's here from the Greayer Cincinnati Earth Coalition. I'm 0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:05.439 talking about common ground here between the Hey, the sky 0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:08.880 is falling environmentalists and the sky is not falling deniers, 0:46:09.600 --> 0:46:12.359 And it's those two entities. Take all the oxygen out 0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:13.960 of the room, and there's little things you can do 0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:16.279 to help, But how much is that really going to 0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:18.080 move the needle? And it's a it's a good conversation 0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:19.960 we're having here. We also as a state have a 0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:24.360 complicated relationship with environmental regulation EPA and the like because 0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:27.280 we have an energy history, we have a legislative history 0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:31.719 with that. Is that hard to navigate here while still 0:46:31.719 --> 0:46:33.160 making progress at the local level. 0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:41.600 Well, the bio environmental Council lobbies the legislature to help 0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:46.080 make it easier for like two houses to get together 0:46:46.160 --> 0:46:51.960 and put solar panels that both houses share. You know, 0:46:52.239 --> 0:46:56.000 one state is recently adopted where you could just plug 0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:59.040 a solar panel into the outlet into your house. If 0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:01.560 your power goes out, at least you've got you can 0:47:01.600 --> 0:47:06.240 power your computer. Yeah, so little things like that, Ohio 0:47:06.400 --> 0:47:09.879 Environmental Council is lobbying for. You know. The other thing 0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:12.880 with the city is we have the twenty thirty pledge 0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:17.080 by buildings. For example, the Contemporary Art Center downtown is 0:47:17.120 --> 0:47:23.440 made of pledge to reduce energy use by fifty twenty thirty. 0:47:23.640 --> 0:47:27.200 Chuck Laurie, are you concerned about AI farms and the 0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:28.920 light going and what's the environmental concern? 0:47:29.000 --> 0:47:35.680 Then? Well, like any energy use, that really should cost 0:47:35.920 --> 0:47:40.719 the people that use the energy the money to get 0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:43.440 the environment back to the way it was. You know, 0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:47.319 we it's going to burn fossil carbon. You need to 0:47:47.360 --> 0:47:53.400 be responsible for the decrimental effects of fossil carbon. Why 0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:56.399 can't we just charge? What can we just do that 0:47:56.719 --> 0:47:59.120 put the environment back to the way we found it? 0:48:00.120 --> 0:48:02.240 Well, because I mean just by walking in the forest, 0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:04.200 you're damaging the environment. I guess, I mean, how how 0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:07.759 pristine can we go back? I also look at the 0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:09.799 past two Oh yeah, go ahead, what's that. 0:48:10.480 --> 0:48:14.879 I don't think walking in the forest is exactly well, I. 0:48:14.800 --> 0:48:16.640 Mean, what I'm saying is you leave a footprint, right, 0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:19.840 I mean, as a former Scout of scouter, you know, 0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:21.920 we find the campsite, we leave the campsite better than 0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:24.000 we found it, but there's still evidence that you were there. 0:48:24.040 --> 0:48:26.920 I guess, I guess, how pristine do you want to 0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:29.840 make it when you go just by us existing, we 0:48:29.960 --> 0:48:30.800 damage the environment? 0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:36.279 Well, that's true, nine billion people, it's a lot of 0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:37.960 a lot of effects. 0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:39.840 At a lot of footprints, a lot of footprints. 0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:40.560 You got to work cut out for. 0:48:44.239 --> 0:48:46.879 Where where's the environmental where's the environmental movement? Now? 0:48:47.000 --> 0:48:51.080 Chuck on nuclear I think that's one. You know, I'm 0:48:51.120 --> 0:48:53.840 curious your take on this one is environmentalists that you 0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:55.360 know back in the day, and I was young, and 0:48:55.360 --> 0:48:57.040 I was a kid then I remember fighting over three 0:48:57.040 --> 0:48:59.279 mile island approach and no nukes, no nukes, no nukes. 0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:01.600 And now we look at it, gone, well, boy, that's 0:49:01.600 --> 0:49:04.160 a much cleaner alternative than than fossil fuel. For sure, 0:49:04.200 --> 0:49:06.319 maybe not as good as solar and wind, but that's 0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:08.440 limited in scales what you can do with that, whereas 0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:12.319 nuclear it's pretty good. You mentioned these companies, and then 0:49:12.320 --> 0:49:15.200 we're moving towards putting small nuclear reactors in and around 0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:17.359 these things so they can power themselves. Do you think 0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:19.239 that was a missed opportunity back in the day that 0:49:19.320 --> 0:49:22.000 we maybe should not have protested so much about that. 0:49:22.120 --> 0:49:23.520 Not that you were part of that, but I think 0:49:23.560 --> 0:49:25.200 as environmentalists, I love your take on it. 0:49:27.000 --> 0:49:32.320 Well, once again, if you're going to have create energy, 0:49:32.360 --> 0:49:36.040 you need to be responsible for the environmental harm that 0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:40.400 it causes. I mean, we we need the natural environment. 0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:42.040 We're part of the natural environment. 0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:43.359 Oh we have to lose your. 0:49:45.360 --> 0:49:49.640 So nuclear energy may have to cast more, just like 0:49:49.719 --> 0:49:52.799 the pots and fossil fuels. It's going to cost. What 0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:57.240 is making solar panels? Is it degrades the environment as well. Sure, 0:49:57.400 --> 0:50:01.000 we need to make energy more expensive so people will 0:50:01.120 --> 0:50:05.560 use less of it. It's really it's kind of our problem, 0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:06.560 you know. 0:50:06.800 --> 0:50:09.400 Well, I suppose, but we also we also like things 0:50:09.400 --> 0:50:11.759 and we produce things. That means jobs, and now that's 0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:15.040 at odds with the economy. So if you make energy 0:50:15.120 --> 0:50:18.120 so cost prohibitive, that it's so limited and so used. 0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:20.560 Doesn't that doesn't that hurt the human condition? 0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:27.719 No? Others, like I said, Germany and Japan, they deal 0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:30.640 with it, you know. It's it's maybe they have but 0:50:30.800 --> 0:50:34.879 a lot higher leg regulatory burdens than the US does. 0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:38.520 Yeah, but lucky, Yeah, well we are lucky. 0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:40.640 But but you look at our again here in America, 0:50:40.680 --> 0:50:43.279 it's about now we're a consumer driven economy and the 0:50:43.320 --> 0:50:46.640 GDP means I think to a lot of people, probably 0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:48.279 a lot more of the environment, and that that's probably 0:50:48.360 --> 0:50:49.600 news you don't want to hear. But I guess that's 0:50:49.600 --> 0:50:52.080 a reality. I don't know if that changes. He's Chuck Loria, 0:50:52.160 --> 0:50:56.120 the chair of a Greater Cincinnati Earth Coalition, the gdc 0:50:56.400 --> 0:50:56.680 e C. 0:50:57.000 --> 0:50:59.200 Thanks so much for the time. Chuck enjoyed the conversation. 0:50:59.320 --> 0:50:59.640 Be well. 0:51:00.880 --> 0:51:03.960 Unfortunately, the hardline reality is that we have to live 0:51:04.000 --> 0:51:06.880 on this planet. We are going to make a footprint 0:51:06.920 --> 0:51:09.040 no matter how lightly we tread. We also have to 0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:12.640 exist today and we are married, of course to fossil 0:51:12.680 --> 0:51:15.360 fuels for the time being, for our lifetime and our kids' 0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:17.359 life and probably a great grandkids time for that matter. 0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:20.920 Another hundred plus years. In that regard, though, can we 0:51:20.960 --> 0:51:23.520 do better? Sure, we should always be doing better. However, 0:51:23.640 --> 0:51:25.960 we do have the reality of the gross domestic product, 0:51:26.600 --> 0:51:29.000 and what we don't want to do is energy so 0:51:29.080 --> 0:51:33.520 expensive it causes our economy to collapse. 0:51:33.560 --> 0:51:35.040 It causes us to lose jobs. 0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:38.239 That doesn't improve quality of love as a matter of fact, 0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:41.000 and make a case that environmentalism goes out the window 0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:44.560 when you are trying to lift yourself up. Look at 0:51:44.560 --> 0:51:47.719 developing economies and that's what's happening. In developing economies. They 0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:49.520 don't care about the environment because they're trying to live 0:51:49.760 --> 0:51:52.719 to tomorrow. So they're not generally good, so they're not recycling. 0:51:53.640 --> 0:51:56.480 When you're living hand to mouth, that is a luxury 0:51:56.600 --> 0:51:59.760 for first world countries. 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It truly leads me, you know, a 0:53:17.640 --> 0:53:21.560 little speechless almost because to your point, there were security 0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:24.319 guards inside, there was a police detail outside, there was 0:53:24.680 --> 0:53:27.440 you know, metal detectors. So at some point we have 0:53:27.560 --> 0:53:30.640 to say, come on, like, we need responsible gun owners. 0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:34.359 We need people who know how to deal with their 0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:36.880 issues without pulling out a deadly weapon. 0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:40.839 Look, I'm a gunner. Ninety nine percent of people are 0:53:41.160 --> 0:53:44.880 law abiding gun owners. This isn't someone being responsible or irrespond. 0:53:45.080 --> 0:53:47.839 This is just someone who has a gun and uses 0:53:47.880 --> 0:53:50.960 an extension to settle beefs. Basically, you know a man 0:53:51.040 --> 0:53:53.279 child or woman child. Generally it's a man child that 0:53:53.440 --> 0:53:55.640 this has nothing new with gun owners, a responsible gunnership. 0:53:55.840 --> 0:53:58.160 This And I'll go on record as saying I'm going 0:53:58.239 --> 0:53:59.959 to I'm gonna bet the person that let that place 0:54:00.120 --> 0:54:04.280 up on Saturday probably was restricted from having a handgun 0:54:04.320 --> 0:54:06.719 because of prior felonies. I will in the bet that 0:54:06.719 --> 0:54:08.759 that person had a handgun under disability. 0:54:09.719 --> 0:54:12.400 I don't know that that's information that's still, you know, 0:54:12.440 --> 0:54:13.319 under investigation. 0:54:13.520 --> 0:54:15.520 I say, I don't know either, but I'm gonna bet 0:54:15.600 --> 0:54:17.640 and I'm gonna bet that that person should. 0:54:17.360 --> 0:54:18.160 Not have had a gun. 0:54:19.960 --> 0:54:20.800 Maybe that's true. 0:54:21.640 --> 0:54:22.600 It was one hundred percent. 0:54:25.560 --> 0:54:29.200 So the Riverfront live shooting nine people shot, six men, 0:54:29.239 --> 0:54:33.359 three women, private party, two guys arrested. Fernique Cobb who's 0:54:33.400 --> 0:54:35.640 twenty four and twenty an annear old Derek Long, both 0:54:36.120 --> 0:54:40.319 faithful onlys assault charges. Here's the detail that should if 0:54:40.320 --> 0:54:43.880 it hasn't stopped in your tracks already. Both men are 0:54:43.880 --> 0:54:47.000 ready legally prohibited from having fire arms. Both had previous 0:54:47.040 --> 0:54:50.960 convictions for weapons under disability. Both knew they weren't supposed 0:54:50.960 --> 0:54:52.959 to have a gun, Both were told by the court, 0:54:53.000 --> 0:54:55.760 you can have one. Both had one anyway in our system. 0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:56.440 The system is. 0:54:56.440 --> 0:55:00.680 Supposed to stop this exactly through all these laws. Already 0:55:00.719 --> 0:55:04.480 had multiple chances to get it right, not once, not twice, 0:55:04.640 --> 0:55:07.640 at least three times, and they still screwed it up. 0:55:08.120 --> 0:55:11.000 This isn't about one bad night in Cincinnati, a bad 0:55:11.080 --> 0:55:13.600 night at Riverfront Life. This is about a justice system 0:55:13.600 --> 0:55:16.120 in Hamlin County and in the City of Cincinnati that 0:55:16.160 --> 0:55:19.840 has been warned, begged, and pleaded with to get serious 0:55:19.960 --> 0:55:23.719 about these repeat offenders and repeatedly chosen not to. And 0:55:23.760 --> 0:55:25.839 the people who think that we ought to give them 0:55:25.840 --> 0:55:29.080 another chance get reappointed and reelected. 0:55:29.280 --> 0:55:30.560 So this is what you. 0:55:30.520 --> 0:55:34.520 Get as a law abiding gun owner. I'm ready to 0:55:34.560 --> 0:55:38.360 become a non lawbiding gun owner because you're not supposed 0:55:38.400 --> 0:55:42.640 to bring a gun into the premises of Riverfront Life. 0:55:42.680 --> 0:55:44.480 You're not supposed to bring a gun into places where 0:55:44.480 --> 0:55:48.360 you shootings, and these people do it anyway. If the 0:55:48.440 --> 0:55:51.280 idea is and you feel so concerned about your personal 0:55:51.320 --> 0:55:54.359 safety and the safety of those around you, including your 0:55:54.400 --> 0:55:59.480 loved ones, especially let alone bystanders. It's almost like, well, 0:55:59.480 --> 0:56:02.160 they're about gun crimes, so I should just bring mine 0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:08.399 with me because knucklehead may do something stupid. You know, 0:56:08.440 --> 0:56:11.640 you may not like guns and despise guns. That's not 0:56:11.680 --> 0:56:14.160 the reality. The reality is things like this make you 0:56:14.200 --> 0:56:17.160 want to carry more, not less, not lock your gun 0:56:17.239 --> 0:56:19.080 up in a car and a lock box to go 0:56:19.120 --> 0:56:22.960 on a venue where the social predators out there like 0:56:23.040 --> 0:56:26.480 these two reign with impunity because they know, hey, I'm 0:56:26.480 --> 0:56:27.839 not allowed to have a gun here. They got one 0:56:27.880 --> 0:56:30.040 in any way, despite metal detectors and everything else, and 0:56:30.040 --> 0:56:34.520 that's where the investigation will be focused on. It makes 0:56:34.600 --> 0:56:38.160 us infuriating that we've had this exact same conversation I 0:56:38.200 --> 0:56:40.960 had with analyob yesterday, to the point where you can 0:56:41.040 --> 0:56:44.040 predict that the people who are doing this stuff shouldn't 0:56:44.040 --> 0:56:46.240 have access to guns, but did the many way, despite 0:56:46.239 --> 0:56:49.759 all these laws they want to pass, despite Democrats and 0:56:49.800 --> 0:56:52.359 Congress in particular talking about how we need more gun laws, 0:56:52.440 --> 0:56:55.399 we didn't enforce the laws we have. Well, you can't 0:56:55.400 --> 0:56:57.200 do that because you victimize these people then why have 0:56:57.280 --> 0:56:59.600 laws anyway? If someone's going to get it's not a victim, 0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:03.720 You're not a victim. If you're perpetuating violence, that doesn't 0:57:03.760 --> 0:57:06.040 make you a victim. I don't care about your your 0:57:06.040 --> 0:57:10.440 social background, your upbringing, quality of life. All that stuff 0:57:10.520 --> 0:57:14.080 is important when their children, okay, both. The minute you 0:57:14.080 --> 0:57:16.360 pick up a firearm and commission of a felony and 0:57:16.400 --> 0:57:19.040 do it several times, I'm sorry. 0:57:19.160 --> 0:57:20.120 I don't have any more. 0:57:20.040 --> 0:57:22.400 Empathy for you in your upbringing, what happened in your 0:57:22.440 --> 0:57:23.720 life to get to the spot. All I care about 0:57:23.760 --> 0:57:25.360 is getting you off the street and putting it behind 0:57:25.360 --> 0:57:27.400 bars before you kill another innocent person. 0:57:29.000 --> 0:57:30.320 The Patrin Herringer. 0:57:30.000 --> 0:57:34.480 Murder after the brawl, right after Kashanda Winn was shot 0:57:34.560 --> 0:57:37.400 in the back as an innocent bystanderd OTR. We had 0:57:37.440 --> 0:57:40.120 a summer of shootings and had residents and business owners 0:57:40.440 --> 0:57:41.960 literally at what's end. 0:57:42.680 --> 0:57:44.520 And after all that, the Hamlin County. 0:57:44.320 --> 0:57:48.520 Association Chiefs of Police took the step extraordinary step of 0:57:48.560 --> 0:57:56.440 publicly calling for a stakeholder roundtable cops, prosecutors, officials, judges, citizens, moms, dads, 0:57:57.240 --> 0:58:00.400 grandma's and grandpa's to get together to talk about how 0:58:00.520 --> 0:58:02.840 armed violent defenders keep cycling through the system back on 0:58:02.880 --> 0:58:03.320 the streets. 0:58:03.440 --> 0:58:04.760 Judges refused to come. 0:58:07.560 --> 0:58:09.200 You know the idea that, well, we can't because we 0:58:09.240 --> 0:58:12.680 have to maintain impartiality. That's not the answer. Not hey, 0:58:12.680 --> 0:58:14.920 well you know, we'll send a representative. Let's find a 0:58:14.920 --> 0:58:18.720 format that works as like, hey, not our problem, right, 0:58:18.880 --> 0:58:22.760 not our pony, not our circus. And meanwhile, you got 0:58:22.760 --> 0:58:25.160 residents in the West End talking about up to sixty 0:58:25.200 --> 0:58:27.120 shots fired on Clark Streak in a single night. 0:58:27.160 --> 0:58:30.680 We saw the problem with with with privy that goes on. 0:58:32.160 --> 0:58:34.360 And we all know and they were warned that this 0:58:34.480 --> 0:58:36.040 keeps and it just keeps coming. And then we're not 0:58:36.080 --> 0:58:39.080 even a summer yet. Man, what do you think is 0:58:39.080 --> 0:58:42.200 going to happen this summer? You should have a reasonable fear. 0:58:42.240 --> 0:58:44.000 I'm not trying to fear monger. I'm just being a 0:58:44.080 --> 0:58:46.120 reality monger. 0:58:46.160 --> 0:58:47.080 I guess. 0:58:48.360 --> 0:58:51.800 In the court rooms, it's the problem judges like Sammy 0:58:51.840 --> 0:58:54.880 silversk She last year walked off the bench with a 0:58:54.920 --> 0:58:57.520 dispute over a prosecutor or a bond and then issued 0:58:57.560 --> 0:58:59.120 an order saying no one is allowed to object to 0:58:59.160 --> 0:59:01.720 a bond rule, no ob Jackson's the bond and accord hearing. 0:59:01.520 --> 0:59:04.600 In a criminal case. What if we were this case. 0:59:06.120 --> 0:59:10.000 Montesa Merriweather convicted felon, bonded out on the weapons disability charge, 0:59:10.040 --> 0:59:13.840 and then participated in the violent downtown brawd that went viral. 0:59:14.280 --> 0:59:15.800 They said they had him on a gun charge. You 0:59:15.880 --> 0:59:20.280 let him walk. That's the ecosystem that Frinny Cobb and 0:59:20.320 --> 0:59:23.760 Derek Long moved through. It's all of this. You know 0:59:23.800 --> 0:59:25.640 you're gonna have criminals. You're gonna have people like Cobb 0:59:25.880 --> 0:59:27.920 and Long and Merriweather, and you can go on and 0:59:27.960 --> 0:59:29.920 on and on with the names. That doesn't matter. It's 0:59:29.920 --> 0:59:33.960 a system that allows this. Sarah Herringer had been saying 0:59:34.720 --> 0:59:38.480 for months, and she's right. Her husband Patrick was killed 0:59:38.480 --> 0:59:40.160 by the man who caught off his ankle monitor. The 0:59:40.200 --> 0:59:43.240 state knew they had a warrant. Mordecai Black spent the 0:59:43.320 --> 0:59:46.400 next three months on a little one man crime spree, 0:59:46.560 --> 0:59:50.280 broke into his girlfriend's apartment, trespassed, and then stabbed Patrick 0:59:50.280 --> 0:59:52.080 Herndon to death in his own home at OTR four 0:59:52.160 --> 0:59:56.880 thirty in the morning. You know, Cobb and Long were 0:59:56.960 --> 0:59:59.600 not ankle monitors, but the principle is the same. The 0:59:59.640 --> 1:00:02.680 tools exists to tract dangerous people, and the political will 1:00:02.720 --> 1:00:07.240 to use it aggressively consistently does not. Not in Columbus, 1:00:07.400 --> 1:00:11.200 down Hamilton County, not in Cincinnati. Nine people were shot 1:00:11.320 --> 1:00:14.920 at Riverfront Live on Saturday. These two clowns that got 1:00:14.960 --> 1:00:17.800 arrested and criminal records should have made it nearly impossible 1:00:17.840 --> 1:00:19.560 for them to access firearms. 1:00:21.200 --> 1:00:22.080 They got them anyway. 1:00:23.480 --> 1:00:27.000 So to talk about responsible gun ownership and responsible gun 1:00:27.000 --> 1:00:30.240 owners I'm done with the platitudes. The system had multiple 1:00:30.320 --> 1:00:34.720 times to intervene here, multiple intervention points, conviction sentences. They've 1:00:34.720 --> 1:00:36.520 been in the system time and time again, and each 1:00:36.560 --> 1:00:38.600 one it shows, well, we'll just go with the lighter 1:00:38.640 --> 1:00:42.400 option here. We don't want to stigmatize people. Then okay, 1:00:42.600 --> 1:00:46.200 you're accepting death and mayhem. You're accepting events like what 1:00:46.240 --> 1:00:51.040 happened on Saturday night. Hamilin County has accepted. That's just 1:00:51.120 --> 1:00:53.160 part of it. Because we don't want to get serious 1:00:53.200 --> 1:00:55.800 about the laws we have, So don't bloviate about how 1:00:55.840 --> 1:00:56.600 we need more laws. 1:00:56.640 --> 1:00:58.720 We need to be straight. It's responsible gunners and lock 1:00:58.760 --> 1:00:59.120 your guns. 1:00:59.200 --> 1:00:59.439 Stop. 1:00:59.480 --> 1:01:02.320 I'm done with it, are you? I'm done with it. It's nonsense. 1:01:03.120 --> 1:01:05.439 It's just hot air. It doesn't mean anything. Hamlet County 1:01:05.520 --> 1:01:07.360 judges won't sit at a table with the chiefs of 1:01:07.360 --> 1:01:10.200 police discussed the problem. They already said, Hey, we're out 1:01:10.240 --> 1:01:11.960 of this. Nope, nope, we're not going to do this. 1:01:12.560 --> 1:01:15.280 We're closing up probation offices. Right, yeah, we're going to 1:01:15.480 --> 1:01:16.960 We're gonna go, oh yeah, we're going to condense the 1:01:16.960 --> 1:01:20.520 probation All okay, great, you don't need neighborhood probation office anymore. 1:01:20.680 --> 1:01:23.920 Supervision is shrinking. We're spending four hundred thousand dollars a 1:01:23.960 --> 1:01:26.040 year in a curfew center that served for four people. 1:01:27.840 --> 1:01:30.240 It's not a question whether the system failed this weekend, 1:01:30.600 --> 1:01:33.320 because it did. The question is whether anyone in a 1:01:33.320 --> 1:01:35.280 position of authority in Hamlin County wants to have an 1:01:35.320 --> 1:01:40.720 honest conversation about why, particularly judges and the people keep 1:01:40.760 --> 1:01:44.120 showing up in our courtrooms getting lighter sentences. Yeah, I promise, 1:01:44.120 --> 1:01:45.440 I'm going to get a job. But yeah, I'm going 1:01:45.480 --> 1:01:47.320 to report to my parole officer. Of course, I'm not 1:01:47.360 --> 1:01:49.480 going to touch a gun. This guy that shot the 1:01:49.480 --> 1:01:51.600 place up Saturday night literally was out of prison for 1:01:51.640 --> 1:01:55.840 fourteen minutes or something. It's insane. He walked out with 1:01:55.880 --> 1:01:58.720 his papers, you know, like shawsh aink redemption. Okay, well, 1:01:59.240 --> 1:02:01.360 walk right in, got a gun and started shooting a 1:02:01.360 --> 1:02:06.040 bar up. And here's the thing, this isn't like okay, 1:02:06.080 --> 1:02:09.040 it's just ref raff gang members shooting game members kind 1:02:09.040 --> 1:02:13.280 of thing. Nine people to concert venue. Nine innocent people 1:02:13.360 --> 1:02:22.280 largely paid for this neglect with their blood. Their blood 1:02:22.320 --> 1:02:25.560 is on the hands of these judges, and they're handwringing 1:02:28.360 --> 1:02:31.800 policies that just encourage more of this to happen. Yeah, 1:02:31.840 --> 1:02:34.200 we'll take your word for quit taking their word for it. 1:02:34.760 --> 1:02:36.000 You know, at the point where you pick up a 1:02:36.000 --> 1:02:38.600 gun and commission of a crime, you made a decision. 1:02:39.280 --> 1:02:43.000 You made a conscious decision as a most likely young 1:02:43.040 --> 1:02:47.080 adult to cross a threshold of which there's no going back. 1:02:51.720 --> 1:02:54.080 Five one, three, seven, four, nine, eight hundred the Big 1:02:54.080 --> 1:02:58.680 One talk Back iHeartRadio app. You know, there's something like 1:02:58.680 --> 1:03:02.800 what four hundred million guns in this country. And the 1:03:02.800 --> 1:03:05.960 guns themselves, we know, they're inanimate objects. They don't cause disputes, 1:03:06.000 --> 1:03:08.800 but it raises the stakes when the dispute happens. Okay, 1:03:08.800 --> 1:03:10.160 we got a lot of guns on the streets. The 1:03:10.160 --> 1:03:12.720 guns don't create the conflict, but it removes a a 1:03:12.880 --> 1:03:17.400 natural ceiling on what would be consequences, and you know, 1:03:17.480 --> 1:03:23.360 Anna Alby mentioned that she was speechless and mentioned, you know, okay, 1:03:23.360 --> 1:03:25.240 there's got to be better ways to resolve issues. You're 1:03:25.360 --> 1:03:28.560 she's right, right, But in the past, we had kind 1:03:28.560 --> 1:03:31.960 of like informal structures that afforded that some people, and 1:03:32.000 --> 1:03:34.600 I don't always dis agree with this, but that is, 1:03:34.640 --> 1:03:35.400 you know, we need more church. 1:03:35.440 --> 1:03:36.320 You need to go to church. You got to go 1:03:36.360 --> 1:03:36.640 to church. 1:03:36.680 --> 1:03:39.320 We had churches, We had extended families, we had neighborhood elders, 1:03:39.320 --> 1:03:41.680 we had you know, community organization stuff like that, and 1:03:41.680 --> 1:03:44.280 they would mediate the disputes before they got to points 1:03:44.320 --> 1:03:48.440 like this. Well, you know, society changed and we kind 1:03:48.440 --> 1:03:50.480 of lost that and now we're in this hole. 1:03:50.520 --> 1:03:52.120 And I think digital has a lot to do this. 1:03:52.200 --> 1:03:55.080 Everyone's their own brand and we're told, you know, you're special, 1:03:55.160 --> 1:03:59.560 you're snowflake, You're unlike everyone else, You're you're empowering, believe 1:03:59.600 --> 1:04:01.680 in you, no one else is, and so you feel 1:04:01.720 --> 1:04:06.080 like it's you against the world. We have a dignity culture, Okay, 1:04:06.160 --> 1:04:07.880 we used to, I guess we used to have a 1:04:07.880 --> 1:04:10.120 culture with center around digging, where you know, you kind 1:04:10.160 --> 1:04:14.280 of ignore minor slights and the big problems that you 1:04:14.280 --> 1:04:17.000 would settle, you'd mediate with those parties that I mentioned, 1:04:17.080 --> 1:04:19.320 with neighborhood helders or whatever it might be. And now 1:04:19.360 --> 1:04:21.960 we have this whole honor culture because we've elevated the person, 1:04:22.000 --> 1:04:24.040 the individual, and the special. We got to make you 1:04:24.080 --> 1:04:26.680 feel so good about yourself that you're the only thing 1:04:26.720 --> 1:04:27.480 in the world that matters. 1:04:27.520 --> 1:04:27.800 It's you. 1:04:27.880 --> 1:04:29.680 No one can tell you about you. 1:04:29.920 --> 1:04:30.280 We learn. 1:04:30.480 --> 1:04:32.360 There's commercials I see all the time about this right 1:04:33.080 --> 1:04:36.040 about you know, affirmation and things like oh well and good. 1:04:36.040 --> 1:04:38.680 But when you tell someone they're special, you're also telling 1:04:38.720 --> 1:04:40.520 them that they're the only thing that matters in the world. 1:04:41.560 --> 1:04:43.760 And so we've gone from this dignity to like an 1:04:43.760 --> 1:04:46.480 honor culture now, and which would also call a victimhood 1:04:46.480 --> 1:04:50.520 culture because the same folks can't be told no because 1:04:50.560 --> 1:04:53.520 they see that as disrespect in an affront to them. 1:04:53.800 --> 1:04:55.680 Like we can disagree, No, we can't. I'm one hundred 1:04:55.680 --> 1:04:59.240 percent right, you know, the old Uh it's become it's 1:04:59.240 --> 1:05:01.960 cliche now, but sit you know what is it? The 1:05:02.000 --> 1:05:05.240 safe spots on campus? Right, I'm allowed to use my 1:05:05.280 --> 1:05:07.480 First Amendment rights, but don't you dare challenge me. Yeah, 1:05:07.480 --> 1:05:10.400 it doesn't work that way. It doesn't work that way, snowflake. 1:05:10.440 --> 1:05:12.120 I'm sorry. 1:05:12.240 --> 1:05:15.960 So everyone's a victimhood, everyone's a victim in this case, 1:05:17.520 --> 1:05:20.320 and the biggest percentage of shootings probably like this one 1:05:21.080 --> 1:05:26.160 start his arguments over something trivial, something stupid, And that 1:05:26.320 --> 1:05:32.280 code shows that law enforcement is distrusted, that social status 1:05:32.320 --> 1:05:35.080 is the only real currency, and the willing to see 1:05:35.120 --> 1:05:39.560 is violence becomes a survival instinct, and social media has 1:05:39.600 --> 1:05:42.280 just made this far and far worse. At five three, 1:05:42.280 --> 1:05:44.520 seven hundred, the Big One. Let me go do a 1:05:44.560 --> 1:05:46.800 bill in Westwood on the Scott Sloan show, Bill Morning. 1:05:47.440 --> 1:05:48.520 Good morning, young man. 1:05:48.520 --> 1:05:49.280 How are you today? 1:05:49.320 --> 1:05:50.919 I'm doing fine. What's up? 1:05:51.800 --> 1:05:52.120 Well? 1:05:52.600 --> 1:05:55.360 You mentioned the fact that the judges aren't doing their jobs. 1:05:55.400 --> 1:05:57.360 That's because Mayor Pure of All, when he was a 1:05:57.520 --> 1:06:01.320 clerk of courts, told them that if they went with 1:06:01.880 --> 1:06:06.160 high cash bail or heavy sentences, they would be primary. 1:06:06.440 --> 1:06:10.760 So no one wants to be primary, so they just 1:06:11.040 --> 1:06:17.720 went low. You have people who don't want large portions 1:06:17.760 --> 1:06:22.280 of the city or their favorite voting demographics put in 1:06:22.320 --> 1:06:24.520 prison because you're going to make their friends and family 1:06:24.960 --> 1:06:26.960 mad at you, and they won't vote for you and 1:06:27.000 --> 1:06:30.600 you will lose political power. But what was really interesting 1:06:30.760 --> 1:06:36.080 was when the city manager was bloviating on responsible gun ownership. 1:06:36.720 --> 1:06:38.960 And now that it turns out that these two guys 1:06:39.000 --> 1:06:44.360 were both mellons and having firearms under disability, I wonder 1:06:44.440 --> 1:06:46.920 if she's going to come out and take the proverbial 1:06:46.960 --> 1:06:48.600 banana cream pie in the face. 1:06:48.920 --> 1:06:52.880 No, and no, there'll be no statement about this whatsoever. 1:06:52.920 --> 1:06:56.080 No one will talk about this because it doesn't further 1:06:56.120 --> 1:06:58.000 the argument. And that's the other part of the problem 1:06:58.080 --> 1:07:00.880 is elected officials used to be a fountable to not 1:07:00.920 --> 1:07:02.600 only the people that got them there, but also the 1:07:02.600 --> 1:07:06.600 people who who voted against them and saying, hey, listen, 1:07:06.880 --> 1:07:08.600 we have to do right by the community, or we 1:07:08.680 --> 1:07:11.160 have to lift everyone up, not just a certain group. 1:07:11.360 --> 1:07:13.400 It doesn't fit in the narrative and therefore we don't 1:07:13.400 --> 1:07:15.120 discuss it. And that's true on the left as it 1:07:15.160 --> 1:07:15.600 is the right. 1:07:17.000 --> 1:07:17.320 Well. 1:07:17.520 --> 1:07:19.840 As a gun owner of some fifty years, none of 1:07:19.880 --> 1:07:23.520 my firearms has ever gotten out and committed any times 1:07:23.640 --> 1:07:27.440 or anything like that. I have, and you know, I'm 1:07:27.480 --> 1:07:30.760 really grateful for that. But you know, if I wanted 1:07:30.760 --> 1:07:33.000 to go to one of these venues, I wouldn't because 1:07:33.040 --> 1:07:37.000 it's not safe. Therefore, my money stays in my pocket. 1:07:37.280 --> 1:07:40.640 And you know I can stay home. I can stay home, 1:07:40.760 --> 1:07:43.840 go visit friends, watch you do, do whatever I need 1:07:43.880 --> 1:07:49.440 to do without worrying about being shot. And eventually the 1:07:49.480 --> 1:07:50.480 business people are. 1:07:50.320 --> 1:07:54.040 Going to like complain, well, I you know, here's what 1:07:54.160 --> 1:07:55.720 I'll let you go. Sounds like you got water right, 1:07:55.760 --> 1:07:58.800 don't waste water? Please turn out water where you you're 1:07:58.800 --> 1:08:01.760 paying for that, or it's really raining out there somewhere 1:08:01.920 --> 1:08:02.480 thanks to the call. 1:08:02.520 --> 1:08:03.040 I appreciate. 1:08:04.720 --> 1:08:06.200 But you know, as you get older and you called 1:08:06.240 --> 1:08:08.640 me young man, and I'm old, So as you get older, 1:08:08.760 --> 1:08:11.120 you know, the world shrinks, it does you know, you're 1:08:11.160 --> 1:08:12.400 not going to go out and do things like you 1:08:12.520 --> 1:08:14.480 used to and run the streets and new experiences you 1:08:14.560 --> 1:08:16.360 tend to you know, you tend to be a homebody. 1:08:16.360 --> 1:08:17.840 So we're kind of like out of that demo that 1:08:17.880 --> 1:08:20.040 they target. Anyway, I'm talking about younger folks. I'm talking 1:08:20.040 --> 1:08:22.840 about gen z ors in particular, maybe younger millennials. Maybe not, 1:08:23.920 --> 1:08:25.559 you're going to go out and do stuff. I like, 1:08:25.640 --> 1:08:27.240 still like to do cool stuff. I like to go 1:08:27.280 --> 1:08:30.760 and catch new music. I like hip hop. I don't 1:08:30.760 --> 1:08:32.960 think I would go to Cincinnati live unless I saw 1:08:33.120 --> 1:08:36.520 there someone there that I really wanted to see. But 1:08:36.600 --> 1:08:39.479 you know, the problem, of course, is not that it's 1:08:39.479 --> 1:08:41.240 like I just choose to stay home. And you know, 1:08:41.479 --> 1:08:43.840 if you're on you mentioned YouTube, social media, you're gonna 1:08:43.840 --> 1:08:46.479 get a steady diet because the algorithm is going to 1:08:46.600 --> 1:08:48.639 feed you a steady diet of things that just reinforce 1:08:48.680 --> 1:08:50.519 your worldview, which is going to make you maybe a 1:08:50.520 --> 1:08:51.320 little bit more scared. 1:08:52.640 --> 1:08:53.880 I understand that, and that's how it works. 1:08:53.880 --> 1:08:55.880 And that also adds in this the fuel of what 1:08:55.880 --> 1:08:59.040 we're talking about here about the great social divide. But 1:08:59.080 --> 1:09:02.840 the reality is like, if you're a judge and you 1:09:02.880 --> 1:09:04.960 don't want to engage in the probably make the process 1:09:05.000 --> 1:09:07.800 better because you're fear you're going to lose your impartiality. 1:09:07.880 --> 1:09:11.160 It doesn't feel like that impartial right now? You know 1:09:11.240 --> 1:09:13.960 we got to be impartial. Yeah, But from where I say, 1:09:14.080 --> 1:09:17.000 you just keep catching people who are violating the laws 1:09:17.040 --> 1:09:20.760 that you swore an oath to enforce, right, I mean, 1:09:20.800 --> 1:09:25.400 that's what a judge does, rule guilty or innocent, and 1:09:25.439 --> 1:09:27.240 you just turned the blind eye to going, Well, you're 1:09:27.280 --> 1:09:29.840 going to promise not to do it again, right, Oh yeah, absolutely, 1:09:30.479 --> 1:09:35.280 And if they do it over and over again, I 1:09:35.320 --> 1:09:37.559 don't know what that has to do with In partiel, 1:09:37.600 --> 1:09:40.920 it looks like you're incompetent, is what it is. I mean, 1:09:40.920 --> 1:09:42.760 at the end of the day, it's you know, peer 1:09:42.800 --> 1:09:45.479 of not necessarily peer of all or all be or 1:09:45.520 --> 1:09:49.000 any member of the council. It's not her. The problem 1:09:49.040 --> 1:09:52.720 is the judges, and they don't want to be held accountable. 1:09:54.600 --> 1:09:58.639 And I don't know, because you know, when when people 1:09:58.680 --> 1:10:01.720 are getting shot with think that as a judge, you 1:10:01.800 --> 1:10:03.360 kind of want to make sure that doesn't happen again. 1:10:03.400 --> 1:10:05.880 It makes you look bad. But in Cincinnati maybe not. 1:10:05.960 --> 1:10:08.120 And where the political element comes as well, we have 1:10:08.200 --> 1:10:10.719 this environment and these folks just keep getting re elected, 1:10:11.640 --> 1:10:14.760 even by wider margins. So is this what the community is? 1:10:14.800 --> 1:10:17.439 This what the city wants? It looks like they're getting it. 1:10:17.960 --> 1:10:20.800 But if you want to engage in society and be 1:10:20.880 --> 1:10:23.679 part of it, and you have a concern that violence 1:10:23.680 --> 1:10:26.960 could break out at any moment, then I think you 1:10:27.040 --> 1:10:30.599 have every right according to the Constitution, to protect yourself 1:10:30.640 --> 1:10:32.479 regardless what these laws are. I say, Okay, I'm a 1:10:32.520 --> 1:10:34.800 law abiding gun owner that I'm neutered because I can't 1:10:34.800 --> 1:10:37.840 bring it anywhere. That's not stopping these felons who get innout. Now, 1:10:37.880 --> 1:10:39.559 I guarantee it. If it's you and you do it, 1:10:40.560 --> 1:10:44.240 guess what they're going to make an example lot of you. Right, 1:10:44.280 --> 1:10:46.559 here's a gun owner I can't seal. Okay, they shot 1:10:46.560 --> 1:10:48.360 this person. It was a wrong shoot and they're gonna 1:10:48.360 --> 1:10:49.800 make a big deal out of that. You're going to 1:10:49.840 --> 1:10:52.400 go to jail much longer than these two clowns who 1:10:52.439 --> 1:10:54.880 shot up Revel Riverfront Live bar. That's not a good 1:10:54.920 --> 1:10:56.800 look for the city, does not make people want to 1:10:56.840 --> 1:10:58.840 come to downtown Cincinnati and spend their money. 1:10:59.080 --> 1:10:59.960 And that's the bottom line. 1:11:00.040 --> 1:11:03.000 It's about money and small business and quality of life 1:11:03.040 --> 1:11:05.240 and your undermining this whole thing. Got to get a 1:11:05.240 --> 1:11:07.599 news update in more to follow Scottsland show seven hundred 1:11:07.640 --> 1:11:10.200 WW since now EPEX hearing group in Montgomery and fight 1:11:10.400 --> 1:11:13.720 up literally across the Middle East, Bahrain saying they've down 1:11:13.840 --> 1:11:15.679 seventy three missiles and ninety one drowns. 1:11:16.320 --> 1:11:18.240 The embassy and Kuwait targeted by Iran. 1:11:18.280 --> 1:11:23.040 Other embassies and other places inside the Middle East under 1:11:23.040 --> 1:11:27.080 siege to some degree various degrees by Iran. And President 1:11:27.120 --> 1:11:29.840 Trump announcing that we have a virtually unlimited supply of 1:11:30.200 --> 1:11:33.360 US munitions, and Iran has already been crippled in so 1:11:33.400 --> 1:11:35.519 many shaped way shapes and formed. But of course this 1:11:35.640 --> 1:11:38.160 is about regime change, and for the first time in 1:11:38.600 --> 1:11:42.240 forty six years, we have a legitimate chance at regime 1:11:42.320 --> 1:11:44.840 change in Iran, but we are bad at it historically 1:11:45.000 --> 1:11:45.880 here in America. 1:11:46.160 --> 1:11:48.680 Where does this war go? Hongs at last, and what 1:11:48.720 --> 1:11:49.680 should the outcomes be. 1:11:49.880 --> 1:11:53.559 Joining the show this morning is retired Major General Bob 1:11:53.600 --> 1:11:56.400 Dy's the United States Army. He commanded the US Israeli 1:11:56.920 --> 1:11:59.360 Combined Task for US for Missile Defense for some thirty 1:11:59.439 --> 1:12:03.080 years out the National Study National Center rather for healthy bets. 1:12:03.280 --> 1:12:04.280 General D's welcome. 1:12:05.200 --> 1:12:07.040 Oh, great to be with you, Scott, Thank you. 1:12:07.200 --> 1:12:10.400 Thanks. As with all I know, we honor the service 1:12:10.400 --> 1:12:13.639 of our military and their sacrifice, particularly those who've given 1:12:13.680 --> 1:12:17.080 their lives, and we pray for God's comfort to their 1:12:17.120 --> 1:12:19.960 families so they may illustrate self with service. 1:12:20.080 --> 1:12:20.400 Amen. 1:12:22.400 --> 1:12:24.960 The big question would be out is the aircraft that 1:12:25.000 --> 1:12:27.479 got shot down? The three F fifteens were shot down 1:12:27.520 --> 1:12:32.280 by Kuwaiti defenses. With technology, with our allies and especially 1:12:32.280 --> 1:12:35.519 with aircraft friendly fire seems like something that shouldn't happen, 1:12:35.680 --> 1:12:38.080 yet it does. Have we gotten better, We had to 1:12:38.080 --> 1:12:39.960 be much better than it used to be. But with 1:12:40.040 --> 1:12:41.679 the technology out there, how's that happen? 1:12:42.479 --> 1:12:43.599 Yeah, we've done a lot better. 1:12:43.640 --> 1:12:47.360 But when you talk about relationship between international forces that 1:12:47.439 --> 1:12:51.519 haven't trained together with the aircraft and air defense in 1:12:51.560 --> 1:12:55.719 this manner before in a major way, then it happens 1:12:55.720 --> 1:12:59.639 fractor sides always tragic. Gratefully the pilots lived, and I'm 1:12:59.640 --> 1:13:05.240 sure this is a warning antidote to many people around 1:13:05.280 --> 1:13:07.480 the region of these other nations. 1:13:07.000 --> 1:13:09.360 That are we have a lot of US Air Force. 1:13:09.120 --> 1:13:13.440 Other nations air force flying around. We need this identification 1:13:13.600 --> 1:13:16.240 process needs to work much better than it did in 1:13:16.280 --> 1:13:16.719 this case. 1:13:16.760 --> 1:13:20.639 Obviously, we had nearly nine hundred strikes in twelve hours. 1:13:20.680 --> 1:13:23.719 That seems to me to be an extraordinary operational tempo. 1:13:23.800 --> 1:13:27.080 So from a military standpoint, page what does that tell 1:13:27.080 --> 1:13:28.400 you the pace? What does that tell you about the 1:13:28.439 --> 1:13:31.520 planning timeline and the level of readiness and how preposition 1:13:31.600 --> 1:13:32.160 we are for them? 1:13:32.920 --> 1:13:34.759 Yeah, well it's the Chairman of the Joint Chief Staff 1:13:34.800 --> 1:13:38.600 just recently said this morning, this is an unprecedented scale. 1:13:38.960 --> 1:13:41.720 And I was in charge of the war plans in 1:13:41.760 --> 1:13:46.000 the Pentagon in the late nineties. I know this particular 1:13:46.200 --> 1:13:49.640 mission was part of the planning process back then. You know, 1:13:49.680 --> 1:13:52.960 you plan against all sorts of contingencies, and so in 1:13:52.960 --> 1:13:56.680 some cases the planning has gone on for decades, understanding 1:13:56.680 --> 1:13:59.400 the terrain and understanding the people. But then now the 1:13:59.439 --> 1:14:03.479 integrate of all the technology we now have is critical, 1:14:03.560 --> 1:14:07.000 and it's amazing, frankly to see once and again how 1:14:07.520 --> 1:14:13.559 this integration has produced good results. Albeit this is a 1:14:13.600 --> 1:14:15.560 large conflict and we're going to see some loss of 1:14:15.640 --> 1:14:16.320 lives as well. 1:14:16.479 --> 1:14:19.160 This has been going on for forty seven years. 1:14:19.200 --> 1:14:23.680 Why now, yeah, yeah, well it's just come to a 1:14:23.720 --> 1:14:27.240 boiling point. You know, the Iranians, you try all elements 1:14:27.280 --> 1:14:31.320 of national power. Regrettably, over the forty seven years since 1:14:31.360 --> 1:14:36.240 the Islamic Revolution happened, we've never had anything decisive to 1:14:36.280 --> 1:14:39.080 tell them to it's not healthy to say death to 1:14:39.120 --> 1:14:43.120 America or death to Israel, and to promote terrorism and 1:14:43.560 --> 1:14:49.479 continue to try to gain nuclear weapons and to empower 1:14:49.560 --> 1:14:52.760 their surgus throughout the region, and then of recent to 1:14:52.920 --> 1:14:56.799 kill many of the innocent protesters within our inn itself. 1:14:57.120 --> 1:14:59.439 So all of that brought it to a boiling point. 1:15:00.680 --> 1:15:04.920 Our president and the administration worked hard on the negotiating side, 1:15:04.920 --> 1:15:08.599 and it became obvious to really the whole world that 1:15:08.640 --> 1:15:11.720 the Iranians were delaying and delaying and just trying to 1:15:11.720 --> 1:15:14.479 play it out until they broke out with a nuclear weapon. 1:15:15.520 --> 1:15:16.520 Yeah. 1:15:16.840 --> 1:15:19.439 So the decision to strike in a daylight rather night, 1:15:19.520 --> 1:15:22.000 to catch commanding the other senior officials together is described 1:15:22.000 --> 1:15:25.360 as a like a tactic deliberate tactical surprise. That's a 1:15:25.360 --> 1:15:29.000 pretty significant decision. And also that should tell you us 1:15:29.000 --> 1:15:31.720 a lot. And you the quality of intelligence that drove 1:15:31.800 --> 1:15:32.200 us from the. 1:15:32.160 --> 1:15:34.880 CIA, Yeah, you're exactly right. 1:15:35.000 --> 1:15:39.160 Well, the CIA and certainly the Israelis. Yeah, there was 1:15:39.240 --> 1:15:43.320 a real time intelligence, no doubt that brought this the 1:15:43.360 --> 1:15:46.040 timelines forward. That you take more risk when you do 1:15:46.080 --> 1:15:48.800 it in the day, but the element of surprise was 1:15:49.479 --> 1:15:51.720 powerful and ineffective. 1:15:52.960 --> 1:15:56.360 Iran fired nearly three hundred missiles, roughly three hundred missiles 1:15:56.400 --> 1:16:00.760 I think in retaliation from their estimated stockpile. What's their 1:16:00.800 --> 1:16:03.840 remaining cap of capability? How long can they sustain that 1:16:03.920 --> 1:16:04.599 rate of fire? 1:16:05.280 --> 1:16:07.680 Yeah, well that's good questions, Scott. I don't know. 1:16:08.320 --> 1:16:12.120 I doubt that the US military planners know that with precision. 1:16:13.240 --> 1:16:19.480 They have done this for decades, produce these ballistic missiles. 1:16:19.880 --> 1:16:22.960 They probably have quite a few stockpiles left. The question 1:16:23.600 --> 1:16:26.840 really is can they command and control that. Have we 1:16:27.080 --> 1:16:31.320 knocked down enough of their three hundred missile launchers to 1:16:32.120 --> 1:16:34.960 make it where they can't deliver the missiles. So I 1:16:34.960 --> 1:16:37.000 imagine they have a huge stock pile. It's just but 1:16:37.080 --> 1:16:37.880 that's not the. 1:16:38.160 --> 1:16:40.839 Long pull in the tent. We need to get their launchers. 1:16:40.840 --> 1:16:43.640 We need to disrupt their command and control, disrupt their intelligence, 1:16:43.920 --> 1:16:46.120 their targeting capabilities. 1:16:45.760 --> 1:16:49.559 And then that'll deny some of the use of those missiles. 1:16:49.880 --> 1:16:52.360 I imagine this is just part of the first wave here. 1:16:53.040 --> 1:16:55.720 Typically in a battle plan like this, general, how does 1:16:55.720 --> 1:16:57.920 that plan? How I guess how deep in the deck 1:16:57.920 --> 1:16:58.759 do you wind up getting? 1:16:58.760 --> 1:16:58.920 Here? 1:16:58.960 --> 1:17:01.759 You apply with paces out of our you know, President said, 1:17:01.760 --> 1:17:04.759 be prepared. This could go on for months. We're hoping days, 1:17:04.800 --> 1:17:06.479 but it could be months, and I think maybe a 1:17:06.560 --> 1:17:07.800 temper our expectations like that. 1:17:07.840 --> 1:17:09.559 But how far out do you plan things like that? 1:17:10.439 --> 1:17:13.920 Yeah, well, you plan all sorts of eventualities and it's 1:17:13.960 --> 1:17:17.160 really condition based. So they'll start with a target set, 1:17:17.280 --> 1:17:21.040 they'll prosecute that the targets, and there were hundreds and 1:17:21.120 --> 1:17:23.880 hundreds I'm sure of targets with all these resources that 1:17:23.920 --> 1:17:26.800 are employed. And then you do battle damage assessment and 1:17:26.800 --> 1:17:31.040 that's how effective was that particular strike. And based on 1:17:31.080 --> 1:17:33.960 battle damage assessment, then you reattack or you say okay, 1:17:34.040 --> 1:17:38.880 let's move on to something else. And the tempo with 1:17:38.520 --> 1:17:42.559 that with which that occurs technically takes will determine how 1:17:42.560 --> 1:17:43.759 long this conflict lasts. 1:17:43.800 --> 1:17:46.599 Yeah, the straight of horror moves is already showing disruption 1:17:46.640 --> 1:17:49.360 there in a shutdown. So from a strategic standpoint, how 1:17:49.400 --> 1:17:51.479 serious is the threat of ranch shutting all that down 1:17:51.840 --> 1:17:55.360 or maybe putting placing minds and other things out there 1:17:55.400 --> 1:17:58.519 to dissuade vessels from going in and out. And what 1:17:58.560 --> 1:18:00.360 options of the navy has? All right, maybe you have 1:18:00.360 --> 1:18:00.840 the counter that. 1:18:01.800 --> 1:18:03.280 Yeah, well it's a very serious threat. 1:18:03.360 --> 1:18:05.439 I mean, we obviously have mind sweepers and things, and 1:18:05.479 --> 1:18:08.960 we're working that. We're trying to create ahead of time 1:18:09.040 --> 1:18:11.479 preempt some of those. I know that we've already attacked 1:18:11.760 --> 1:18:14.280 much of their naval capability. We taken down I think 1:18:15.360 --> 1:18:18.599 to this point seven Iranian Navy ships and so forth. 1:18:19.960 --> 1:18:23.360 I just read a report don't know the details. Electronic 1:18:23.439 --> 1:18:28.479 warfare against ships and GPS signals in the strait suppor 1:18:28.560 --> 1:18:32.960 moves also that could significantly disrupt the traffic going through. 1:18:33.840 --> 1:18:37.519 So it is a strategic choke point. But it's a 1:18:37.560 --> 1:18:40.280 mixed bag because if you knock out, if you close 1:18:40.320 --> 1:18:43.519 it totally, a lot of that oil is oil that's 1:18:43.560 --> 1:18:48.280 being supplied to China and other nations, and so if 1:18:48.280 --> 1:18:52.639 that's knocked out, then it many ways works to Iran's detriment. 1:18:53.240 --> 1:18:55.880 He is a retired US Army Major General. Bob D's 1:18:55.920 --> 1:18:58.920 on Scott Sloane Show on seven hundred wwe commanded the 1:18:59.040 --> 1:19:02.960 US Israeli Task Force or Missile Defense and joins the 1:19:03.000 --> 1:19:05.120 show with his insight on what's happening as we speak 1:19:05.200 --> 1:19:08.599 right now. This is the largest regional military build up, 1:19:08.600 --> 1:19:11.080 I believe since two thousand and three. A couple carrier groups, 1:19:11.120 --> 1:19:14.880 a dozen destroyers, you've got air assets. Is that force 1:19:14.960 --> 1:19:18.200 package that is sufficient enough for a sustained operation? 1:19:19.080 --> 1:19:20.599 Do we have to call in more support? 1:19:21.720 --> 1:19:21.920 Yeah? 1:19:21.920 --> 1:19:23.759 Well, I think it's a definite force package. 1:19:23.760 --> 1:19:25.640 Now, what you have to realize. 1:19:25.200 --> 1:19:28.479 Is that you've got forces from the United States, You've 1:19:28.520 --> 1:19:32.320 got strategic command, you've got transportation command people that are 1:19:32.360 --> 1:19:36.640 providing from the United States assets that provide aerial refueling 1:19:37.120 --> 1:19:40.639 for many of the forces in region. We have long 1:19:40.720 --> 1:19:43.920 range bombers that come out of the intal United States. 1:19:44.200 --> 1:19:47.719 So yes, I think it's certainly enough in the region. 1:19:48.960 --> 1:19:54.599 It's a real dense package of force of capability. 1:19:53.920 --> 1:19:54.519 In the region. 1:19:55.000 --> 1:19:57.920 But we're a global power and so a lot of 1:19:57.920 --> 1:19:59.719 the power comes from the United. 1:19:59.520 --> 1:20:00.719 States other places. 1:20:01.240 --> 1:20:04.360 Also, other nations are starting to lend their support to 1:20:04.400 --> 1:20:07.719 include the Arab states that have been attacked by Iran 1:20:07.760 --> 1:20:08.840 of recent right. 1:20:09.920 --> 1:20:11.840 And the other thing too is I know Iran has 1:20:11.880 --> 1:20:15.200 some paramilitary forces and they're just been described think as 1:20:15.240 --> 1:20:18.000 the ace and a hole for unconventional warfare. So what 1:20:18.120 --> 1:20:22.280 should our troops expect in terms of a proxy retaliation 1:20:22.720 --> 1:20:27.439 or relatedvaliation involving allied parties from the Iranians both in 1:20:27.439 --> 1:20:27.880 the region. 1:20:27.920 --> 1:20:29.320 But what about here on US oil? 1:20:30.560 --> 1:20:35.160 Yeah, well, Hezballah has already started knocking ascending rockets towards 1:20:35.240 --> 1:20:38.200 Israel and there's an ongoing conflict on the northern nature 1:20:38.200 --> 1:20:41.439 of Israel right now. Domestically, as you know, there was 1:20:41.479 --> 1:20:44.840 a terrorism incident over the weekend in Austin, Texas. 1:20:44.880 --> 1:20:46.040 Pretty unusual, they. 1:20:45.960 --> 1:20:49.840 Say, terrorism incidents, suspected terrorism, and there'll be a lot 1:20:49.880 --> 1:20:52.640 of lone wolfs like this, And with four years of 1:20:52.680 --> 1:20:57.559 open border, there's probably a lot of valid sleeper cells 1:20:57.600 --> 1:21:04.200 that are otent that rise up. If, as many Iranian 1:21:04.200 --> 1:21:07.360 clerics say, this is an existential threat, this is the 1:21:07.479 --> 1:21:10.160 end times, this would be the time they would pull 1:21:10.200 --> 1:21:13.200 the trigger on all assets who are in the United 1:21:13.240 --> 1:21:15.280 States as well as around the world. 1:21:15.479 --> 1:21:17.080 Do you think by now we have a good handle 1:21:17.120 --> 1:21:19.000 on who is here to do that kind of work 1:21:19.080 --> 1:21:21.600 from our intelligence in stateside? 1:21:22.439 --> 1:21:24.040 I think absolutely we don't. 1:21:25.520 --> 1:21:30.200 I saw the amount we've been into infiltrated before nine 1:21:30.240 --> 1:21:33.920 to eleven in the sleeper cells, and now with the 1:21:33.960 --> 1:21:37.240 open border in twenty years, hence there's a lot more 1:21:37.439 --> 1:21:39.240 that are embedded in the United States. 1:21:39.320 --> 1:21:40.000 So we. 1:21:41.720 --> 1:21:44.519 Need to be on our toes. We're grateful for the 1:21:44.560 --> 1:21:48.040 account intelligence efforts of the FBI, but we're pretty vulnerable 1:21:48.080 --> 1:21:51.760 right now domestically as well as more domestically than we 1:21:51.800 --> 1:21:52.600 are internationally. 1:21:52.600 --> 1:21:54.960 Frankly, yeah, I wonder, you know, trying to pull all 1:21:55.000 --> 1:21:57.920 this stuff together. General D's and I tend to believe 1:21:57.920 --> 1:22:00.920 in Ocham's razor, which basically leads the most common sense explanation, 1:22:01.160 --> 1:22:04.000 usually the right one. And I don't want to give 1:22:04.600 --> 1:22:09.439 elected officials and administrators administrative set too much credit here 1:22:09.479 --> 1:22:11.800 for being long term planners or thinkers, because I don't 1:22:11.840 --> 1:22:13.639 think that's ever been the case. But in this regard, 1:22:13.720 --> 1:22:16.559 I look at what happened with Maduro and Venezuela, and 1:22:16.560 --> 1:22:19.559 that was a precursor. Allegedly to get well was to 1:22:19.560 --> 1:22:21.600 get rid of fentanyl, which really wasn't the day. We 1:22:21.680 --> 1:22:24.160 got oil out of that. And in addition to that, 1:22:24.200 --> 1:22:27.080 we also activated ICE, and their mobile eyes are going 1:22:27.120 --> 1:22:31.280 around from Minnesota and elsewhere. It'd be much easier for 1:22:31.400 --> 1:22:35.840 them to pivot to going from that kind of enforcement 1:22:35.880 --> 1:22:39.040 to terra cells and rooting those individuals out. But at 1:22:39.040 --> 1:22:41.080 the same time, you're going to shut down the Straight 1:22:41.120 --> 1:22:44.120 of Hormuz here choking about about twenty percent of the 1:22:44.280 --> 1:22:46.720 world oil supply. Now we have a steady supply of 1:22:46.920 --> 1:22:49.599 Venezuela oil coming into this. I think those two things 1:22:49.600 --> 1:22:52.760 with ICE but particular Venezuela, were pretext for this. 1:22:54.320 --> 1:22:56.719 Yeah, I'm not sure about the pretext for ICE. 1:22:56.960 --> 1:23:01.680 I do think that these problems are not separable. A 1:23:01.680 --> 1:23:06.320 lot of the ice operations are against people that are 1:23:06.439 --> 1:23:10.719 bad actors. Some have been bad actors in our potential 1:23:10.840 --> 1:23:15.360 terrorist threats, and so that'll be complementary. On the oil thing, 1:23:16.439 --> 1:23:18.479 it's hard to figure out. You know, you can say 1:23:18.520 --> 1:23:21.040 America is just trying to get oil, but if you 1:23:21.120 --> 1:23:24.920 go back, I know, my father in law was an 1:23:24.960 --> 1:23:29.120 oil man in Venezuela a long time ago. Venezuela's can 1:23:29.160 --> 1:23:32.360 be a very productive country with a very productive oil economy, 1:23:32.439 --> 1:23:36.240 but the Maduro regime and previous had just disrupted all that. 1:23:36.360 --> 1:23:39.680 So they were producing oil, but most of it was 1:23:39.760 --> 1:23:42.040 going to corrupt means the who. 1:23:41.920 --> 1:23:45.439 These have already demonstrated ability to strike our assets and 1:23:45.720 --> 1:23:49.840 survive sustained bombardment. That's another element here in country. How 1:23:49.880 --> 1:23:53.280 significant is that threat to well carrier groups like the 1:23:53.360 --> 1:23:55.759 USS Abraham. I was on the Lincoln for a cruise, 1:23:56.200 --> 1:23:58.639 the Abraham Lincoln and other naval assets in the region right. 1:23:58.560 --> 1:24:02.400 Now, Well, it's a significant threat. Uh. 1:24:02.439 --> 1:24:05.000 And they they they are right on the choke hold 1:24:05.000 --> 1:24:07.479 of the Straits of Horror moves there and so we 1:24:07.800 --> 1:24:10.599 got to continue to fight them. And it's certainly they're 1:24:10.600 --> 1:24:14.639 attacking Israel at times, but right now they're attacking American 1:24:14.680 --> 1:24:17.600 assets in the region and particularly shipping lanes in the 1:24:17.640 --> 1:24:23.080 region these days, with guided missile capabilities. Uh, you know 1:24:23.320 --> 1:24:25.920 with uh, without a lot of effort, that they can 1:24:26.200 --> 1:24:29.479 produce some significant outcomes. And if it's in the Straits 1:24:29.520 --> 1:24:32.960 of Horror Moves. Now, if we have that going on there, 1:24:33.760 --> 1:24:37.160 now the shipping is set down, shut down. I understand 1:24:37.160 --> 1:24:40.320 they've already been attacking old tankers in the Straits of 1:24:40.320 --> 1:24:44.439 Horror Moves, so significant. Scott, Yeah, and Abraham Lincoln's the 1:24:44.560 --> 1:24:46.280 impressive now, yeah, it really is. 1:24:46.320 --> 1:24:49.600 Those those carrier groups are amazing things when they get rolling. Uh, 1:24:49.640 --> 1:24:51.679 what is your threat assessment of Hesbala and they're. 1:24:51.600 --> 1:24:52.360 Rolling us. 1:24:53.960 --> 1:24:54.639 Well? Uh. 1:24:54.800 --> 1:24:57.880 I think today the Israelis reported. 1:24:57.560 --> 1:24:58.680 They they killed the. 1:24:58.680 --> 1:25:02.880 Key has the leader, one of the main terrorist leaders there. 1:25:03.479 --> 1:25:06.800 The Israelis will continue to attack that. A number of 1:25:06.880 --> 1:25:09.800 villages I think it's fifty villages in southern Lebanon have 1:25:09.880 --> 1:25:14.439 been directed to evacuate because Israelis could use ground operations 1:25:14.479 --> 1:25:17.560 there to shut this down, and certainly they're doing air operations. 1:25:18.120 --> 1:25:21.360 When I was the commander of the Israeli Combined Task 1:25:21.400 --> 1:25:24.479 Force for Missile Defense, I mean we even from the 1:25:24.479 --> 1:25:27.479 Beca Valley. Up at Lebanon, we had gliders that were 1:25:27.479 --> 1:25:30.960 coming down and those are hard to pick up coming 1:25:31.000 --> 1:25:35.559 down men on gliders with bombs or terrace to intent 1:25:36.400 --> 1:25:40.120 and so the Israelis are good at this, but they're 1:25:40.160 --> 1:25:43.960 fighting on all fronts right north southeast above. 1:25:45.200 --> 1:25:48.720 Yeah, well we got you got this three person transitional 1:25:48.760 --> 1:25:52.320 council because the head has been caught off and there's 1:25:52.360 --> 1:25:55.040 a lack of a clear command authority. Does that make 1:25:55.120 --> 1:25:58.040 things there for our troops more or less dangerous? 1:25:59.560 --> 1:26:00.160 Well? 1:26:00.920 --> 1:26:03.479 I think it's more dangerous because here you have a 1:26:03.560 --> 1:26:09.800 wounded animal, one that we always had malintent towards us, 1:26:09.840 --> 1:26:13.080 and now they're wounded and they're striking out and to 1:26:13.120 --> 1:26:17.200 shoot the ballistic missiles towards their Arab neighbors and then 1:26:17.240 --> 1:26:20.799 claric towards US and civilian targets as well as military targets. 1:26:21.439 --> 1:26:24.920 They are pretty desperate. And they may say that they 1:26:24.920 --> 1:26:28.599 have a three person ruling council, but with that type 1:26:28.600 --> 1:26:31.520 of death and destruction at the top of their leadership, 1:26:32.120 --> 1:26:34.679 I suspect it's very fragmented at best. 1:26:34.880 --> 1:26:35.120 Yeah. 1:26:35.160 --> 1:26:38.040 Well, the Revolutionary Guard, of course here is probably going 1:26:38.080 --> 1:26:41.200 to try to consolidate power, because a full regime change 1:26:41.240 --> 1:26:43.639 doesn't really seem likely. Plus we're also bad at regime 1:26:43.720 --> 1:26:45.439 change here in the United States. We've talked about that. 1:26:45.840 --> 1:26:49.120 If they do indeed emerged stronger of this whole thing, 1:26:49.760 --> 1:26:51.120 is that a success or of failure. 1:26:52.240 --> 1:26:55.799 Well, I think that would not be a success because, 1:26:56.080 --> 1:26:58.439 as we say, this has gone on for forty seven years. 1:26:58.920 --> 1:27:03.880 So we really do need to change the intent of 1:27:03.960 --> 1:27:08.040 the nation of Iran from death to America, death Israel, 1:27:08.080 --> 1:27:11.479 death to many others in the area, to one of 1:27:12.080 --> 1:27:17.400 economic aiming economic prosperity and peaceful coalition in the region. 1:27:18.640 --> 1:27:21.120 Trump said, the bombing will continue as long and necessary. 1:27:21.280 --> 1:27:25.720 From your chair their general military planning standpoint, What does 1:27:25.720 --> 1:27:28.680 that off ramp look like? I mean, what, how do 1:27:28.720 --> 1:27:30.559 you declare, hey, victory, We're going to pull the hell 1:27:30.600 --> 1:27:33.000 out of here. And how many weeks or months do 1:27:33.040 --> 1:27:33.719 you think that takes? 1:27:34.720 --> 1:27:38.320 Yeah, well, well I would say weeks, not months. Uh 1:27:38.479 --> 1:27:41.639 And and I would say it all depends on what 1:27:41.680 --> 1:27:46.680 we see. If we see Iran continuing to shoot missiles 1:27:46.720 --> 1:27:50.760 and and other things, you know, the naval and the 1:27:50.800 --> 1:27:55.240 Straits of Hormos, we will pursue all of that until 1:27:55.320 --> 1:27:58.759 it's no longer about you know, a valt a threat 1:27:59.400 --> 1:28:02.400 and that be depending upon the BDA, as I mentioned 1:28:02.439 --> 1:28:06.360 the battle damage assessment and the overall campaign objectives, it 1:28:06.400 --> 1:28:09.240 could be you know, a few weeks before that happens. 1:28:09.560 --> 1:28:11.160 I don't think we're talking months though. 1:28:11.520 --> 1:28:12.120 Yeah. 1:28:12.680 --> 1:28:15.280 Is there back channels going on within that three member 1:28:15.360 --> 1:28:19.280 panel to determine what leadership looks like? Is that something 1:28:19.320 --> 1:28:21.760 that's negotiated or are we just completely obliterate them for 1:28:21.840 --> 1:28:22.439 they cry uncle? 1:28:23.800 --> 1:28:27.519 Well? I think it depends. We got to see that. 1:28:27.640 --> 1:28:29.680 Does this three member panel do they really speak for 1:28:29.720 --> 1:28:32.240 the nation of our end? Are they really controlling the 1:28:32.280 --> 1:28:35.519 IRGC or are they just puppets at this point in time? 1:28:36.000 --> 1:28:38.719 And and you know, if the IRGC is the one 1:28:38.760 --> 1:28:41.720 calling the shots and continuing to find we need to 1:28:42.120 --> 1:28:45.960 defeat them, if not destroy them, before this conflict is 1:28:46.160 --> 1:28:46.960 properly ended. 1:28:47.120 --> 1:28:49.360 All right, weeks not months is what you or guess 1:28:49.360 --> 1:28:49.720 would be? 1:28:50.080 --> 1:28:50.280 Uh? 1:28:50.360 --> 1:28:53.599 And informed one of that? And what the X how 1:28:53.640 --> 1:28:55.719 we how we pull out of this thing looks entirely 1:28:55.720 --> 1:28:58.439 different than what the aftermath is of course too, is 1:28:58.479 --> 1:29:01.160 all in question. He is made your General US Army 1:29:01.200 --> 1:29:03.839 retired Bob D's He commanded the US is rarely combined 1:29:03.840 --> 1:29:05.840 task force or missile defense back in the day now 1:29:05.880 --> 1:29:08.400 at the National Center for Healthy Vests in Virginia. 1:29:08.560 --> 1:29:10.960 General, thanks for the time. I appreciate We'll talk again soon. B. 1:29:11.080 --> 1:29:13.160 Welsercot, thank you. 1:29:13.760 --> 1:29:16.719 News update seconds away. Here the very latest now seventy 1:29:16.760 --> 1:29:19.960 two hours into the fight, and this is rocking markets. 1:29:19.960 --> 1:29:20.200 On that. 1:29:20.320 --> 1:29:23.400 Andy Shaeffer from all Worth Financial joins the show next 1:29:23.439 --> 1:29:25.720 to talk about the volatility, what's happening, where it's going 1:29:25.800 --> 1:29:27.559 to go, and and a little bit of calm for 1:29:27.640 --> 1:29:30.519 if you're worried about the gas price is going up 1:29:30.600 --> 1:29:33.439 the economy in particular, maybe your savings, if not, your 1:29:33.439 --> 1:29:35.960 retirement plan, your far oh one K. He'll break it 1:29:36.000 --> 1:29:38.439 down for you. Next, little little calming voice. 1:29:38.200 --> 1:29:38.720 In the room for you. 1:29:38.760 --> 1:29:41.200 Almost guarantee that with Andy Shaeffer. Right after news on 1:29:41.320 --> 1:29:43.040 seven hundred W W. Scotts LUNCHA. 1:29:43.120 --> 1:29:46.000 You need money, how to make it, how to keep it, 1:29:46.280 --> 1:29:48.880 and how to keep others off your stash. 1:29:52.520 --> 1:29:57.120 This is all Worth Advice with Andy Shaeffer. Andy Schaeffer, 1:29:57.160 --> 1:29:57.679 good morning. 1:29:58.439 --> 1:30:00.439 I just wish there was more going on the world 1:30:00.479 --> 1:30:02.200 to discuss when it comes to finances. 1:30:02.439 --> 1:30:03.600 Yeah, what do you want to talk about this. 1:30:03.760 --> 1:30:06.320 I want to talk about financial imageddon that's happening today. 1:30:06.360 --> 1:30:07.360 That's what I want to talk about. 1:30:07.520 --> 1:30:09.880 All right, we can do that. How do you want 1:30:09.920 --> 1:30:10.360 to start? 1:30:11.800 --> 1:30:13.599 No one listening is going to ever be able to retire. 1:30:13.720 --> 1:30:14.000 Quit there. 1:30:14.160 --> 1:30:15.920 You're gonna have to get a If you have three jobs, 1:30:15.920 --> 1:30:18.559 you're gonna need five. Right, Is that what's going on? 1:30:18.760 --> 1:30:19.120 All right? 1:30:19.200 --> 1:30:23.160 So we we, along with Israel launch Coordinator strikes at Iran, 1:30:23.200 --> 1:30:26.640 targeting military, government, energy infrastructure. We're bombing the hell out 1:30:26.640 --> 1:30:30.160 of them right now, and Tehran is responding. And then 1:30:30.200 --> 1:30:34.320 you go, okay, well, gas prices, let's start there. Are 1:30:34.320 --> 1:30:37.400 we prepared to see gas prices go up to well 1:30:37.479 --> 1:30:40.000 or about three a gallon I think nationally right now, 1:30:40.040 --> 1:30:41.920 but maybe four or five dollars a gallon? 1:30:42.680 --> 1:30:44.479 Where's the breaking point here? Do we know yet? 1:30:44.880 --> 1:30:45.120 Well? 1:30:45.200 --> 1:30:48.080 I think you know, if you ask if we meeting 1:30:48.120 --> 1:30:50.439 the average citizen of the United States, probably not. 1:30:50.560 --> 1:30:52.040 You know, we're a little bit worried about it. 1:30:52.080 --> 1:30:54.640 And I think you have to understand and unpacked this 1:30:54.680 --> 1:30:56.320 from a big picture standpoint. 1:30:56.880 --> 1:31:01.440 You know, the main issue with this Iran conflict is oil. 1:31:01.160 --> 1:31:05.280 Prices, and you know the immediate problem is probably going 1:31:05.320 --> 1:31:06.920 to be cast prices that we're going to see at 1:31:06.920 --> 1:31:08.880 the pump, you know, when we you know, get gas 1:31:08.960 --> 1:31:10.960 to go to work or whatever it is. But from 1:31:10.960 --> 1:31:14.240 a larger sense, it's more about the supply issues, you know, 1:31:14.320 --> 1:31:16.960 And we've talked about the Straight of Horn Moves over 1:31:17.000 --> 1:31:19.599 the last couple of years and how important that is. 1:31:19.640 --> 1:31:21.840 And the Straight of War Moves is about a twenty 1:31:21.880 --> 1:31:26.360 four mile stretch through the Persian Gulf where about twenty 1:31:26.360 --> 1:31:29.680 percent of our total oil supply from a global standpoint 1:31:29.760 --> 1:31:30.320 comes through. 1:31:30.479 --> 1:31:31.960 And right now that's locked up. 1:31:32.439 --> 1:31:33.280 Well what does that mean. 1:31:33.400 --> 1:31:35.800 Well, yeah, prices are probably going to rise a little bit, 1:31:35.880 --> 1:31:39.240 but in a larger sense, from an economic standpoint, that 1:31:39.280 --> 1:31:43.479 can significantly impact the global economy. And the reason that 1:31:43.520 --> 1:31:46.200 it can impact the global economy is not you and 1:31:46.240 --> 1:31:49.080 me getting from work and back, but the cost of 1:31:49.240 --> 1:31:52.160 energy and shipping costs. So if the cost of energy 1:31:52.200 --> 1:31:54.519 increases because the lack of supply from the Straight of 1:31:54.560 --> 1:31:58.400 Horror Moves, you know, is cut off, that will translate 1:31:58.479 --> 1:32:03.599 to higher trasportation costs, which will translate to inflation. And 1:32:03.680 --> 1:32:05.600 that's certainly what we don't want to see. And you 1:32:05.680 --> 1:32:08.479 have to remember from a market standpoint, The markets are 1:32:08.479 --> 1:32:11.240 predictive indicators of how we feel about the economy looking 1:32:11.240 --> 1:32:13.639 out six months to a year, and investors right now 1:32:13.640 --> 1:32:17.360 are saying, oh no, if oil prices continue to rise, 1:32:17.520 --> 1:32:21.080 that's going to translate to higher inflation if we don't 1:32:21.080 --> 1:32:23.040 get this thing worked out. And so that's why you're 1:32:23.040 --> 1:32:24.920 starting to see the market's tumble a little bit, because 1:32:24.920 --> 1:32:27.120 investors are fearful because we don't know what's going to happen. 1:32:27.280 --> 1:32:29.280 Yeah, I know Congress meets his meeting now as a 1:32:29.320 --> 1:32:31.000 matter of fact on this issue, and I'm sure that's 1:32:31.000 --> 1:32:33.000 first and foremost is like, hey, well, looks like we 1:32:33.120 --> 1:32:36.920 finally beat inflation. It took a long time, and now 1:32:37.120 --> 1:32:39.840 that may all be undone in the drop of a bomb. 1:32:40.760 --> 1:32:45.519 Yeah, But unfortunately, I think that you know, we've kind 1:32:45.520 --> 1:32:48.280 of anticipated a little bit of this, so our supplies 1:32:48.479 --> 1:32:50.920 have increased quite a bit here in the United States. 1:32:52.200 --> 1:32:54.200 You know, we we did anticipate a little bit of 1:32:54.280 --> 1:32:57.560 conflict in the Middle East, and other global powers have 1:32:57.640 --> 1:33:01.280 as well. We have an East, our oil production, we 1:33:01.360 --> 1:33:04.120 have increased tracking those types of things, but you know, 1:33:04.240 --> 1:33:07.720 ultimately that we still need the oil that comes out 1:33:07.800 --> 1:33:12.040 of that region. You know, Now, Iran's total oil production 1:33:12.080 --> 1:33:15.360 amounts about four percent of the total global production, So 1:33:15.840 --> 1:33:17.960 is that going to have an impact. No, but there 1:33:17.960 --> 1:33:21.040 are other nations that ship goods out of that area. 1:33:21.120 --> 1:33:23.759 The other thing that's going to have an impactful outcome 1:33:23.800 --> 1:33:25.800 there is we get a lot of the world's fertilizer 1:33:25.840 --> 1:33:27.600 from that area as well, and so that's going to 1:33:27.720 --> 1:33:32.000 hurt the agriculture industry. So here's the timeline on this. 1:33:32.160 --> 1:33:34.400 I think if this lasts a week, it's probably not 1:33:34.479 --> 1:33:37.599 a problem. If if it goes two weeks, it becomes 1:33:37.640 --> 1:33:39.559 more of a serious problem. If it goes three, then 1:33:39.600 --> 1:33:43.840 we can see some impact, you know, from an economic standpoint. 1:33:43.880 --> 1:33:45.800 You know, when you when you look at the technical 1:33:46.040 --> 1:33:48.120 aspect of it, when you look at oil prices, oil 1:33:48.280 --> 1:33:50.960 is up about fifteen percent or so year over year. 1:33:51.040 --> 1:33:53.439 If it really when we go back and we look 1:33:53.439 --> 1:33:55.479 at the data on a year over year basis, it 1:33:55.520 --> 1:33:58.760 doesn't become a significant crisis until oil prices get to 1:33:58.800 --> 1:34:01.280 be about seventy five percent higher year over year. 1:34:01.400 --> 1:34:02.960 So we're still a little bit far off of that. 1:34:03.439 --> 1:34:05.000 But if you see those. 1:34:04.840 --> 1:34:08.679 Prices increase at seven eight nine percent on a daily basis, 1:34:08.720 --> 1:34:09.920 we can get there pretty quickly. 1:34:11.040 --> 1:34:15.120 Okay, So when you say the most valuable piece of water, 1:34:15.200 --> 1:34:18.400 the most important piece of water in the entire world 1:34:18.760 --> 1:34:20.120 would be the Strait of Horror Moves. 1:34:20.120 --> 1:34:21.519 I mean what you just described. 1:34:21.560 --> 1:34:25.160 They're twenty percent of oil and also liquid natural gas 1:34:25.280 --> 1:34:29.000 goes through that quarridor. I can't think of something that 1:34:29.040 --> 1:34:31.200 the world depends on more than the Straight of Horror Moves, 1:34:31.200 --> 1:34:31.519 can you. 1:34:31.960 --> 1:34:34.320 Yeah, whether it's the Strait of Malacca, which is kind 1:34:34.320 --> 1:34:38.120 of a north of Australia, kind of in the Indonesia area. 1:34:38.240 --> 1:34:40.120 But the thing about the Straight of War Moves is 1:34:40.120 --> 1:34:43.920 that it's so tiny. It's only twenty four miles wide, 1:34:44.160 --> 1:34:48.920 so it's very easy for any nation to clog that up. 1:34:48.960 --> 1:34:51.000 And that's exactly what I ran did. I mean they 1:34:51.120 --> 1:34:54.320 you know, they basically cut that area off and we're 1:34:54.320 --> 1:34:56.040 trying to figure out ways to get around it. And 1:34:56.080 --> 1:34:58.920 so now it becomes a geopolitical issue. You know, who's 1:34:58.960 --> 1:35:00.800 the leadership and I ran, and who do we talk to. 1:35:00.960 --> 1:35:04.360 They're saying that they're not willing to negotiate. Donald Trump 1:35:04.400 --> 1:35:06.720 is saying, hey, we're open to talking. They're saying, well, 1:35:06.760 --> 1:35:09.240 we're not talking because you know, you guys came and 1:35:09.280 --> 1:35:11.400 bombed us and kill our leader and all this kind 1:35:11.400 --> 1:35:14.559 of stuff. So, you know, as this continues to escalate, 1:35:14.600 --> 1:35:16.800 we have to watch it very carefully, not from a 1:35:16.800 --> 1:35:19.800 political standpoint, but from an economic stand sure, we have 1:35:19.880 --> 1:35:23.080 to be nimble enough to understand not only you know, 1:35:23.120 --> 1:35:25.559 what happens if this continues, but where are the way 1:35:25.760 --> 1:35:29.280 that we can you know, position our investments that are 1:35:29.280 --> 1:35:31.400 going to be more advantageous during this period of time. 1:35:31.560 --> 1:35:34.360 Yeah, he and is Andy shaff are all worth financial 1:35:34.439 --> 1:35:36.759 talking about war and of course the impact on the economy. 1:35:36.760 --> 1:35:37.040 Gas. 1:35:37.040 --> 1:35:39.640 We're talking about natural gas and liquid gas too for 1:35:39.720 --> 1:35:41.800 that matter too. As we move into the summer months now, 1:35:41.880 --> 1:35:44.479 so we're not going to freeze to death, but oil 1:35:44.560 --> 1:35:47.200 and we're also doing the summer blunt switch over right now, 1:35:47.200 --> 1:35:49.719 which is driving things up. You mentioned about four percent 1:35:49.800 --> 1:35:52.040 of the world's oil comes from Iran. What about Venezuela. 1:35:52.080 --> 1:35:54.800 We have full access now to Venezuela. The tap has 1:35:54.840 --> 1:35:57.400 been opened up to full. But what percentage is that 1:35:57.520 --> 1:35:58.479 does that offset Iran? 1:35:59.080 --> 1:36:01.680 It does to some, but you know there's still some 1:36:02.840 --> 1:36:05.320 you know, I would say, you know, process issues there, 1:36:05.479 --> 1:36:07.559 you know, because most of the stuff that comes out 1:36:07.560 --> 1:36:11.479 of Venezuela is unrefined, and you know, that's why China 1:36:11.520 --> 1:36:13.680 has a big, you know, a big interest over in 1:36:13.760 --> 1:36:16.479 Venezuela because they have a big refining industry and things 1:36:16.479 --> 1:36:18.400 like that, and so you know, and I don't want 1:36:18.439 --> 1:36:20.680 to get too fearg into politics here, but all of 1:36:20.720 --> 1:36:24.040 this is going to significantly hurt China. China was the 1:36:24.080 --> 1:36:27.240 biggest importer of Iran oil and until large degree they 1:36:27.240 --> 1:36:29.280 were getting a big discount because we have all these 1:36:29.320 --> 1:36:32.200 sanctions on Iran and China was one of the few 1:36:32.200 --> 1:36:35.160 countries that was actually buying their crew and so they're 1:36:35.200 --> 1:36:38.760 going to have a big impact. Yeah, you're going to 1:36:38.800 --> 1:36:40.600 be impacted by it. And also they were getting a 1:36:40.600 --> 1:36:43.640 lot of Venezuela oil. So I think, you know, in 1:36:43.680 --> 1:36:46.320 the big scheme of things, from a geopolitical standpoint, China 1:36:46.400 --> 1:36:47.800 has the most to lose in all this, and so 1:36:47.880 --> 1:36:49.880 that's why you haven't heard a lot coming from them 1:36:49.960 --> 1:36:52.360 because they want to make sure that this gets all 1:36:52.400 --> 1:36:54.720 worked out as well, because they're going to be the 1:36:54.720 --> 1:36:59.960 country that really is impacted, you know, from a geopolitical standpoint. 1:37:00.080 --> 1:37:03.679 Yeah, gotcha, Andy Shafer from all Worth Financial, What would 1:37:03.680 --> 1:37:05.760 it take for us to fall into recession on its own. 1:37:05.800 --> 1:37:08.439 Could could it be a couple of weeks of very 1:37:08.479 --> 1:37:10.400 high gas prices? I mean, what would it take for 1:37:10.520 --> 1:37:14.360 all of this to be undone? It would take a while. 1:37:14.400 --> 1:37:18.600 So right now, you know, from a domestic economic standpoint, 1:37:18.640 --> 1:37:21.000 you know, we're we're actually performing fairly well. You know, 1:37:21.080 --> 1:37:24.040 we still look at the labor market, unemployment rates still 1:37:24.080 --> 1:37:27.679 around four point three percent, inflation is still coming trending down. 1:37:28.120 --> 1:37:29.800 You know, you take I ran out of it. You know, 1:37:29.800 --> 1:37:32.400 we're in a pretty good spot. You know, we continue 1:37:32.439 --> 1:37:35.840 to see you know, jobs be in a pretty good place. 1:37:35.880 --> 1:37:38.000 So you know, when we look at our projection from 1:37:38.000 --> 1:37:42.920 a GDP standpoint, we're looking at expansion somewhere around three percent. 1:37:42.640 --> 1:37:43.080 For the year. 1:37:43.680 --> 1:37:46.680 So if this continues on and it goes, you know, 1:37:46.840 --> 1:37:49.439 months and months, that could have an impact on inflation, 1:37:49.520 --> 1:37:51.200 and that's when we start to see some of the 1:37:51.200 --> 1:37:54.000 indicators start to lead towards recession. But right now you 1:37:54.120 --> 1:37:57.120 have to understand you cannot get caught up in the 1:37:57.160 --> 1:38:00.679 minutia of geopolitical activities. Seventy five set of the time. 1:38:00.720 --> 1:38:03.680 When we go through these things, the market will rebound 1:38:03.840 --> 1:38:06.240 in the next three to twelve months following these major 1:38:06.280 --> 1:38:10.320 geo political events, and so you know, if we you know, 1:38:10.479 --> 1:38:12.840 you see the markets fall, it's it's largely due to 1:38:12.920 --> 1:38:15.920 investors reacting to these headlines. And you have to remain 1:38:16.160 --> 1:38:20.240 confident and remain secure that your portfolio and your planet 1:38:20.320 --> 1:38:22.479 remains in good shapes. Now, there are some things that 1:38:22.520 --> 1:38:25.360 you can do. You can look at certain different types 1:38:25.400 --> 1:38:28.920 of investments when you when we go through these defents 1:38:28.920 --> 1:38:32.479 and aerospace are always good. Energy and natural resources, go 1:38:32.520 --> 1:38:36.080 into cybersecurity. CrowdStrike, for instance, is probably a good play 1:38:36.120 --> 1:38:39.600 consumer states Procter and gamble here locally, that's also a 1:38:39.600 --> 1:38:42.240 good investment choice. But you don't want to make get 1:38:42.280 --> 1:38:43.840 out of the markets. You just want to make small 1:38:43.880 --> 1:38:46.599 tweaks to your portfolio. Yeah, it makes sense, but here's 1:38:46.600 --> 1:38:48.519 the thing. You say, Hey, don't panic, hold steady. It's 1:38:48.560 --> 1:38:50.040 going to improve, but always bounces back. 1:38:50.120 --> 1:38:50.280 Right. 1:38:50.320 --> 1:38:53.000 But I'm looking at the ticker right now, I'm looking 1:38:53.040 --> 1:38:56.120 at the DOW, I'm looking at the NASDAC, I'm looking 1:38:56.200 --> 1:38:58.080 at the Rustle, I'm looking at all these things, and 1:38:58.080 --> 1:39:00.479 they're all they're all tanking because the people who have 1:39:00.640 --> 1:39:02.600 people are selling, they're not buying or no they're not 1:39:02.640 --> 1:39:05.599 holding they're moving positions, and so the sky is falling. 1:39:05.640 --> 1:39:07.760 Those are much smarter people than I am. 1:39:07.960 --> 1:39:08.479 Or are they not? 1:39:09.240 --> 1:39:11.800 They're not And that's that's exactly the thing. 1:39:12.240 --> 1:39:14.680 My money's tied about to people that are dumber than me. 1:39:14.840 --> 1:39:16.520 That's not confidence inspiring. 1:39:17.160 --> 1:39:20.320 Yeah, well, well, and I think that's when you really 1:39:20.360 --> 1:39:21.439 make portal craft. 1:39:21.479 --> 1:39:22.160 We're in trouble. 1:39:22.960 --> 1:39:28.040 Yeah, but you know, stocks have experienced corrections on errors 1:39:29.240 --> 1:39:32.120 fourteen percent per year since nineteen eighty. You know, the 1:39:32.160 --> 1:39:35.479 average annual return total during those years was a positive 1:39:35.560 --> 1:39:39.400 thirteen percent, And so eighty three percent of every year 1:39:39.439 --> 1:39:41.760 that you're invested is positive. So what side of the 1:39:41.760 --> 1:39:43.120 coin do you want to be on? You want to 1:39:43.120 --> 1:39:45.360 be on the side of being invested or not. Well, 1:39:45.439 --> 1:39:47.759 if you're eighty three percent of the time is positive 1:39:47.880 --> 1:39:50.479 and we always go through these types of shocks, you 1:39:50.520 --> 1:39:52.960 want to make sure that you are invested. You know, 1:39:53.160 --> 1:39:56.640 this is specifically relevant. When the Gulf War began in 1:39:56.720 --> 1:39:59.599 nineteen ninety one, Okay had the nine to eleven attacks 1:39:59.600 --> 1:40:03.439 back two thousand and one, the Iraq evasion invasion back 1:40:03.479 --> 1:40:06.840 in two thousand and three. All of these years were positive. 1:40:06.880 --> 1:40:10.120 By the end of the year. When Russia a next 1:40:10.120 --> 1:40:13.519 crimea back in twenty fourteen, the market was up for 1:40:13.560 --> 1:40:18.080 the year fourteen percent. When Hamas attacked Israel just a 1:40:18.120 --> 1:40:19.920 couple of years a few years ago, the market was 1:40:20.000 --> 1:40:23.160 up thirty four percent. So we go through these things. 1:40:23.200 --> 1:40:25.000 You just have to make sure that you remain calm 1:40:25.000 --> 1:40:28.160 and remain poised, let things play out, and remember that 1:40:28.240 --> 1:40:31.240 the markets are different and the economy is different from 1:40:31.280 --> 1:40:32.280 geopolitical events. 1:40:32.479 --> 1:40:34.280 Okay, So if you go back and look all these 1:40:34.320 --> 1:40:38.080 conflicts nine to eleven, the Arab spring you mentioned, rocks, 1:40:38.160 --> 1:40:42.760 Russia invading Ukraine, all these things, at some point it 1:40:42.800 --> 1:40:44.679 does start to swing the other way, but you've got 1:40:44.680 --> 1:40:48.200 to give it not seven days, but maybe seven months. 1:40:48.520 --> 1:40:50.679 Yeah, And like I said, you know, seventy five percent 1:40:50.680 --> 1:40:52.679 of the time during these conflicts the market is up. 1:40:52.800 --> 1:40:54.880 And so you just have to have a little bit 1:40:54.880 --> 1:40:57.880 of poison. Understand what the underlying data says. And again, 1:40:58.120 --> 1:41:00.320 the economy in the United States is based on you 1:41:00.360 --> 1:41:02.680 and me, Scott. It's about the consumer. As long as 1:41:02.720 --> 1:41:05.320 we're employed and as long as we have the ability 1:41:05.360 --> 1:41:08.759 to earn a wage that translates to higher corporate prices 1:41:08.800 --> 1:41:11.120 and higher corporate gains and those types of things, and 1:41:11.120 --> 1:41:14.000 that's really what matters. It's the health of our economy. 1:41:14.000 --> 1:41:17.519 Our economy is so robust. Iran's economy is really about 1:41:17.520 --> 1:41:19.599 the size of West Virginia's. You have to keep that 1:41:19.640 --> 1:41:20.760 in perspective. 1:41:21.439 --> 1:41:23.360 Okay, No, that makes a lot of sense, Andy, And 1:41:23.400 --> 1:41:25.200 so it just kind of stayed the course. Maybe make 1:41:25.280 --> 1:41:27.680 some adjustments because even in a crisis, there's a hell 1:41:27.720 --> 1:41:29.840 of a lot of opportunities. You said, you know, put 1:41:29.800 --> 1:41:31.920 a little more into cybersecurity. We're going to need that. 1:41:32.000 --> 1:41:34.280 I just spoke to Chris and I Heist the first 1:41:34.280 --> 1:41:35.640 hout of the show at nine oh six. If you 1:41:35.680 --> 1:41:38.800 missed it, it's on the podcast at the iHeartRadio app. 1:41:38.800 --> 1:41:41.320 But he was saying, hey, listen, you know, the likelihood 1:41:41.560 --> 1:41:44.320 of us being attacked physically as we did not eleven 1:41:44.520 --> 1:41:46.240 is much much lower than it would be with a 1:41:46.240 --> 1:41:51.160 cyber attack, specifically critical infrastructure, water, electricity, things like that, 1:41:51.280 --> 1:41:53.920 but also denial of service. It's all possible. It's on 1:41:53.960 --> 1:41:56.400 play because Iran and its proxies have been doing that 1:41:56.439 --> 1:42:00.320 for about fifteen years. Three years ago, they were able 1:42:00.320 --> 1:42:02.400 to shut down a water supply uh here in the 1:42:02.479 --> 1:42:05.240 United States briefly, if you recall that whole story, we 1:42:05.280 --> 1:42:08.080 could see that on a much bigger scale, that would 1:42:08.280 --> 1:42:10.880 read probably just as much, if not more havoc because 1:42:10.920 --> 1:42:14.280 now you're you're you're you're playing with critical infrastructure here. 1:42:15.280 --> 1:42:17.160 That is something we all fear. But at the same time, 1:42:17.160 --> 1:42:19.200 according to him, is like the government is less prepared 1:42:19.240 --> 1:42:21.840 today than it was six years ago, five years ago, 1:42:22.160 --> 1:42:23.920 which is is unbelievable. 1:42:24.240 --> 1:42:26.040 Yeah, and I don't I don't know if I believe that. 1:42:26.160 --> 1:42:28.360 I would like to hear statistics on that. You know, 1:42:28.479 --> 1:42:31.800 because you know, from a corporate standpoint, you know, one 1:42:31.800 --> 1:42:35.000 of our biggest outflows that all were financial, is security, 1:42:35.479 --> 1:42:38.840 and and I think most companies recognize the importance of it. 1:42:39.280 --> 1:42:44.160 I mean, you have to have specific uh firewalls, you 1:42:44.240 --> 1:42:46.200 have to you have to test it, you have to 1:42:46.240 --> 1:42:50.240 have you know, a lot of security within your own infrastructure. 1:42:50.240 --> 1:42:53.120 From a technology standpoint, otherwise you're not gonna have business 1:42:53.160 --> 1:42:56.600 because you have to make sure that not only is 1:42:56.640 --> 1:42:59.320 your business safe and secure, but the information of your 1:42:59.320 --> 1:43:03.400 clients is. So our second biggest outflow other than our payroll, 1:43:03.600 --> 1:43:05.960 is through security, and I think that's important. I think 1:43:06.000 --> 1:43:08.479 most companies in corporation fall in line with that, so 1:43:08.520 --> 1:43:10.160 I'd be curious to hear what he has to say. 1:43:10.439 --> 1:43:12.479 You know, as far as the government is less prepared, 1:43:12.520 --> 1:43:15.160 because I feel like we pourt more and more money 1:43:15.160 --> 1:43:17.280 into that because we know how important it is. 1:43:17.400 --> 1:43:20.680 Here Andy Shaffer all Worth Financial. Their show airs at 1:43:20.720 --> 1:43:23.599 six tonight on our sister station fifty five KRC. It's 1:43:23.640 --> 1:43:27.200 simply money. Andy jumps in Tuesdays. Not a good Tuesday. 1:43:27.240 --> 1:43:29.240 Hopefully next week will be better. We'll find out, buddy, 1:43:29.240 --> 1:43:30.120 Thanks again, appreciate it. 1:43:30.120 --> 1:43:32.040 How it going all right? Scott talking? Here you go, 1:43:32.200 --> 1:43:32.800 So there you go. 1:43:32.880 --> 1:43:34.960 You may think that these people are really really smart 1:43:35.000 --> 1:43:36.640 that are running them, but they're apparently they're not. 1:43:36.680 --> 1:43:38.040 We're smarter than they are. How about that? 1:43:38.360 --> 1:43:40.519 Scott's Louand with Willie coming up after news on the 1:43:40.520 --> 1:43:42.720 Home of the Red seven hundred WWD Cincinnati,