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Speaker 1: Happy Wednesdays.

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Speaker 1: So my name is Brian Thomas. I host the fifty

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Speaker 1: five Caracy Morning Show. And I couldn't do without the

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Speaker 1: man in the Executi Producer Producers booth, Joe Strekker, execut Producer,

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Speaker 1: fifty five KRS Morning Show. And you love hearing from you.

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Speaker 1: Feel free to give me a call this morning. Something

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Speaker 1: you want to talk about, like, for example, Shenanigan's in

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Speaker 1: downtown Cincinnati. Oh look, thank you to Todd Zenser Citizen Watchdog.

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Speaker 1: If you don't know I follow a Citizen Watchdog podcast,

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Speaker 1: you should. Todd Zenzer, former Inspector General for the United

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Speaker 1: States of America, keeping an eye on what's going on

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Speaker 1: with the money in downtown Cincinnati. How those rose it's

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Speaker 1: working out for you? Yeah, when you see the figures

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Speaker 1: for what is behind in terms of the deferred maintenance

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Speaker 1: worked that the city has not done now for going

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Speaker 1: on decades. Every year the deferred maintenance gets longer and

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Speaker 1: list grows longer, and it becomes more expensive. Is the

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Speaker 1: price of oh, I don't know, asphalt for example, more

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Speaker 1: expensive this year than it was, say, ten years ago,

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Speaker 1: when the road still needed to be filled in pothole

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Speaker 1: and repaved. Right, that's the problem when you don't keep

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Speaker 1: your eye on the most important elements of running a

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Speaker 1: city government. Anyhow, comment or two on that in Todd

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Speaker 1: Zinser's analysis of at the inquir go ahead and do that, Mayor.

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Speaker 1: I have to have provole proposing a one hundred million

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Speaker 1: dollar plus plan to erase the city's pension debt, A

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Speaker 1: pension debt that has grown exponentially over the years. How

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Speaker 1: many years have the Democrats been responsible for downtown sin

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Speaker 1: city government? Yeah, a long, long, long, long, long time.

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Speaker 1: I think you gotta get back to charge, right, Ken Blackwell,

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Speaker 1: that's like nineteen I have nineteen ninety or something. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a

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Speaker 1: different result. My friends in the City of Cincinnati lead

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Speaker 1: you a massive hole in the pension fund. It's huge.

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Speaker 1: The one point eight billion pension it has eight hundred

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Speaker 1: the cost of pensions for the current employees and retirees.

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Speaker 1: If you are a current employee or you're a retiree already, well,

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Speaker 1: hoping that the pension continues to pay. Doesn't this make

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Speaker 1: you sweat both? Don't you feel like you've been I

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Speaker 1: don't know, in some way, shape or form stabbed in

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Speaker 1: the back. This was a promise and commitment made to you.

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Speaker 1: You can back up for make the same margument with

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Speaker 1: social security. Although read your Social Security form when it

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Speaker 1: comes it tells you there is no guarantee you're going

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Speaker 1: We live in a world run by elected officials who

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Speaker 1: like to kick the can down the road avoid dealing

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Speaker 1: with the challenges in front of them because they are

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Speaker 1: difficult choices and challenges. We need a new skateboard park.

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Speaker 1: We can't fund the pension fully or whatever. But they

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Speaker 1: did find two thousand, two hundred and ten thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: to help the city's immigrant community, the Immigration and Refugee

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Speaker 1: Law Center. Yes, the city's Budget, Finance and Governor's Committee

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Speaker 1: unanimously voted to give two hundred and ten thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: to this. Well, it's an illegal immigrant operation and providing

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Speaker 1: legal services for I. I can only imagine illegal immigrants

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Speaker 1: because it's always brilliant. Don't know what he's talking about today,

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Speaker 1: never do today topic stoking rage. Americans for Prosperities Donald

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Speaker 1: O'Neil seven thirty. As is typically the case, the Americans

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Speaker 1: for Prosperities released the Ohio Legislative Scorecard. Jim Lewis, he's

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Speaker 1: the man Constitution boot Camp. He'll join the program at

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Speaker 1: Jim's effort and giving us all a Civics lesson much

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Speaker 1: Strings and guess another Fourth Amendment questions or issues swirling

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Speaker 1: Law Center. This at the best of councilmen, Ryan James

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Speaker 1: his motion. What the Immigration Law Center is driving forward

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Speaker 1: I'll let you decide whether you think that's the case

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Speaker 1: talk amongst yourselves, James said, going to work, getting their

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Speaker 1: I hear that never happens. So I thought this particularly.

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Speaker 1: why do you need twhnitred and ten thousand dollars? That

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Speaker 1: money is going to go to something called access to Council.

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Speaker 1: Wcpo's Marlene Lang reporting saying that this access to council

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Speaker 1: Seventy so you got two hundred and ten thousand Access council,

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Speaker 1: don't charge anything. Okay, access to council. If you're providing

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Speaker 1: aligning distributions more closely with the citator's cities demonstrated deployment capacity.

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Speaker 6: Happy Wednesday, good morning, how you feeling the day much?

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I am feeling much better. I

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Speaker 1: getting going today. Man, it's so cool. You have three

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Speaker 1: maple trees in the backyard. We got tapped, just three taps,

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Speaker 1: syrup made from your own backyard. It's just so wonderful. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I'm enjoying that. It's something you might want to consider

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Speaker 1: doing because it's so very easy to do over the

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Speaker 1: Stack is Stu. But during Valentine's they quarrel about infidelity.

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Speaker 1: Man allegedly struck his female companion in the head with

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Speaker 1: a Chick fil A Spicy Chicken sandwich. This according to

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Speaker 1: Florida police, who arrested him for domestic battery. Thank you

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Speaker 1: Joe Theodore Anderson twenty seven and the victim having dinner

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Speaker 1: in their home when they began to fight. Cops say

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Speaker 1: the defendant through it. Cops say it defendant through a

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Speaker 1: Chick fil A spicy chicken sandwich, striking the victim on

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Speaker 1: the head with it. Theodore Anderson then threw a styrofoam

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Speaker 1: cup of blue Power Aid, so soaking the woman in

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Speaker 1: the woman in the sports drink. Officials got there seeing

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Speaker 1: Petersburg residence is where this happened, reported spotting a Chick

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Speaker 1: fil A broken apart in the living room where the

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Speaker 1: Anderson reportedly admitted to the attack. Twenty eight year old

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Speaker 1: several times during the three years they'd lived together. Just

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Speaker 1: Anderson spent the day in jail before being released on

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Speaker 1: a five thousand dollars bond. Judge Jordan have no contact

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Speaker 1: two conviction for violated domestic violence restraining order involving a

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Speaker 1: might want to stay away from the guy he's got.

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Speaker 3: An Mo.

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Speaker 1: Also arrested in January twenty two for battering that same woman.

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Speaker 1: That one apparently was dropped all Right, Florida man as

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Speaker 1: This resulted in an obstruction cards. According to court wreckers,

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Speaker 1: officers patrolling the Fishing Peer Entertainment Park in Clearwater, Florida,

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Speaker 1: with law enforcement, police believed the man to be Josiah Darling,

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Speaker 1: Matthew Caponi asked the suspect to identify himself. The defendant

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Speaker 1: addition to being arrested for the outstanding warrant, he was

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Speaker 1: to pay fines court cost totaling five hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: a Wednesday. Going to be back to the stack is stupid.

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Speaker 1: You can call though, if you'd rather talk with me.

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Speaker 1: go to Ahialiyah close to Miami. Video caught a man

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Speaker 1: screaming for help. Please say. He tried to rob a

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Speaker 1: His name Dean Young. He's twenty six now facing charges

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Speaker 1: when Young began screaming and kicking the van doors for

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Speaker 1: help because he was locked inside. You can hear him saying,

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Speaker 1: help me, I'm inside. The homeowner there nursing Toledo said

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Speaker 1: out of the van. According to the rest form, landscapers

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Speaker 1: police showed up. Young told police, it's doing idiot things

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Speaker 1: because they're idiots. Here's Young told police that he was

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Speaker 1: handing out business cards when a dog chased him, got scared,

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Speaker 1: ran into the truck for safety. However, the video provided

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Speaker 1: a different account. What thank you, Liam home owner said,

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Speaker 1: I think it's funny. It's a dumb crook. I guess

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Speaker 1: now he's watching the news inside the jail. Currently being

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Speaker 1: held in jail free on bell from a previous case.

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Speaker 1: Judge said his bill at fifteen hundred dollars, but apparently

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Speaker 1: he would remain in jail because I guess he didn't

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Speaker 1: if it was full cash. He was chased by a dog.

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Speaker 1: I just found out the other day that Muslims don't

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Speaker 1: like dogs. They believe them to be unclean. Big swirling

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Speaker 1: controversy in response to some people's well saying that the

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Speaker 1: may be, than Muslims. Kind of a weird thing. I'm

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Speaker 1: a dog guy, so you can go ahead and make

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Speaker 1: whatever argument you want. I like dogs, don't think them

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Speaker 1: to be unclean, even though we all know that they

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Speaker 1: can be from time to time. So can people go?

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Speaker 1: To Sunrise, Florida. Father there said he's upset after his

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Speaker 1: ex partner left their two young children in an uber

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Speaker 1: for hours. Police arrested Emily Sabogal thirty two in Sunrise,

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Speaker 1: now facing charge of a child neglect and abandonment. She

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Speaker 1: appeared in court Sunday. Judge said about fifteen hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: for each of the charges. Father said not the first

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Speaker 1: time she's shown a radic behavior and that he plans

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Speaker 1: to seek full custody. Apparently, the son was down her

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Speaker 1: two young children left in the uber van for hours.

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Speaker 1: HM He said, the sergeant call my mom explained that

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Speaker 1: the children inside the uber driver's car while she was

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Speaker 1: drunk or getting drunk, as this tradition priorities. Okay, this

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Speaker 1: is funny just because of the reality of the headline

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Speaker 1: officers arrested at this is in Seattle. Forty eight year

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Speaker 1: old fella with active felony warrants for committing another felony.

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Speaker 8: Now who can argue with that?

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Speaker 1: Fell in with felony warrants arrested for committing a felony.

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Speaker 1: Headline men arrested after he broke into a safe with

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Speaker 1: a crowbar, took a gun, and ran from copscure to

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Speaker 1: nine to one one collar. He saw the man break

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Speaker 1: into the discarded safe in an alleyway, take out the handgun,

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Speaker 1: armed the crowbar, hammer, and now the gun. He left

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Speaker 1: the area what has described as quick departure. Officer search

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Speaker 1: the neighborhood, spotted him walking nearby, ordered to stop. He

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Speaker 1: took off running, then he tried to ditch his backpack.

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Speaker 1: Officers arrest and recover the backpack, found the gun inside,

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Speaker 1: along with marijuana and meth amphetamine. Officer determined the suspect

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Speaker 1: a convicted felon for a violent offense. Also on the

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Speaker 1: Department of Corrections Supervision with felony warrant for escaping community custody.

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Speaker 1: He's also prohibited from having a gun or controlled substances. Hey, Joe,

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Speaker 1: there's a law in the book. He broke the law.

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Speaker 1: We gotta have more jobs. Police also found an additional

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Speaker 1: seventy five hundred dollars felony warrant for a motor vehicle theft.

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Speaker 1: I love that police also found, as if the records

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Speaker 1: didn't clearly indicate how many felonies this guy had outstanding, Well, hey,

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Speaker 1: there's another one booked into the King County Jail for

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Speaker 1: obstructing a public officer, unlawful possession of a firearm, and

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Speaker 1: other outstanding warrants. There you have it. Fivefty five five

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Speaker 1: KR See the talk station plenty six five and think

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Speaker 1: about Karrise de Talks Nation Happy Wednesday. Brian Thomas erdospetik

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Speaker 1: about Parsee morning show. Jess Chucker executive producer. Also a

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Speaker 1: guy who do your podcast if you want to do

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Speaker 1: a podcast, he does the for example, Charge Conversation podcast

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Speaker 1: with Brigham Account our friend from the Hudson and Suit

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Speaker 1: who knows energy policy like the back of his hand,

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Speaker 1: which allows me to segue into energy policy. This is

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Speaker 1: what a total scam. It's where your hard working taxpayer

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Speaker 1: dollars are going in the name of chasing your tail

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Speaker 1: and accomplishing literally nothing real quick here coming up one

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Speaker 1: hour from now, The Big Picture with Jack add in

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Speaker 1: topic stoking rage, Donald and Neil Americans for Prosperity at

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Speaker 1: seven thirty on the legislative scorecard that AFP released for Ohio.

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Speaker 1: Jim Lewis Constitution boot Camp coming in February, are coming

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Speaker 1: in shortly at Wright State University. You are invited to

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Speaker 1: get a great Civics lesson from Jim Lewis does a

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Speaker 1: fantastic job at the Constitution boot Camp. And of course

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Speaker 1: Wednesday eight thirty means, of course Judge Enneda Polatana today

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Speaker 1: liberty without strings. All right, You know I don't believe

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Speaker 1: in the religion. Jonathan Lesser Jonathan Lesser is a senior

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Speaker 1: Fellow of the National Center for Energy Analytics. He's kind

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Speaker 1: of like a Brigha McGowan kind of guy. He is

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Speaker 1: an energy policy expert. You can't argue with what he

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Speaker 1: has to say about this nonsense talking about carbon capture

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Speaker 1: Most policies designed to reduce carbon emissions have focused on

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Speaker 1: reducing reliance on fossil fuels, primarily through state and federal mandates,

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Speaker 1: including requirements to increase reliance on wind and solar power,

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Speaker 1: replace oil and gas furnaces and water heaters with electric

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Speaker 1: key pumps, force autobile manufacturers sell electric vehicles that most

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Speaker 1: consumers don't want. These mandate sticks have all been accompanied

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Speaker 1: by subsidy carrots paid for by taxpayers and rape payers,

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Speaker 1: and I don't want to pause for a moment on

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Speaker 1: that concept. They force you to do something that's more

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Speaker 1: expensive that you don't want to do, that requires taxpayer

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Speaker 1: dollars to support through subst these something like well wind

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Speaker 1: and solar power projects, You don't just build one because

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Speaker 1: it's the right thing economically to do. You need government

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Speaker 1: money to support it through subsidies and tax payer dollars. Ultimately,

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Speaker 1: so you're pursuing something that is going to force you

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Speaker 1: to pay more electricity prices. Somebody's got to cover the

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Speaker 1: cost of any of these well incentives. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: like a tariff, isn't it. You believe in global warming religion,

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Speaker 1: you think carbon dioxide is evil, ergo you are willing

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Speaker 1: to pay more in order to bring about this reality.

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Speaker 1: It's like a voluntary I mean, you think it's voluntary,

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Speaker 1: it's not, because I know most people don't believe in

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Speaker 1: this crap, or at least most people that I circle with. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: Just consider along those lines, tariffs are bad, well, why

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Speaker 1: aren't these subsidies bad? Anyway? He writes. Many of the

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Speaker 1: subsidies were increased under the Inflation Reduction Act of twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two. But the largest subsidy note the emphasis. The

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Speaker 1: largest subsidy in the inflation were was something entirely new,

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Speaker 1: a payment of up to one and eighty dollars per

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Speaker 1: metric ton to capture carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere.

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Speaker 1: Not just like from a coal producing plant or something

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Speaker 1: like that. We're just talking about sucking carbon dioxide out

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Speaker 1: of the air. They claim this might mitigate climate change

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Speaker 1: by reducing atmosphere concentrations of CO two. It's called direct

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Speaker 1: air capture DAC. They say, the carbon dioxide that these

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Speaker 1: these plants, the direct air capture plants, could then be reused,

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Speaker 1: for example, and you're gonna love this in enhanced oil

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Speaker 1: recovery or just permanently buried in the ground. I'll get

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Speaker 1: back to the oil recovery component, which is just really

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Speaker 1: fundamentally comical. US Department of Energy report issued at the

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Speaker 1: end of the Biden administration estimated that the US would

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Speaker 1: need to remove get a load of this range remove

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Speaker 1: one hundred million metric tons to two billion metric tons.

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Speaker 1: Quite a range, there isn't it in order to address

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Speaker 1: climate change using this direct air capture technology. All right,

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Speaker 1: somewhere between a hundred million metric tons and two billion

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Speaker 1: metric tons, that's roughly what will address climate change. Why

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Speaker 1: the wide range use your own imagination. They don't know,

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Speaker 1: and they're pulling figures out of their sphincter. Anyway, you're right,

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Speaker 1: Tones and DAC direct air capture. Just if you just

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Speaker 1: listen to how this works, you're gonna realize it's set

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Speaker 1: up for epic fail. Involves large fans that draw outdoor air,

645
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: which pushes them through liquid or solid media, which apparently

646
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: captures the CO two and removes it via chemical processes,

647
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: then compresses the carbon dioxide for transport, and either use

648
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: or sequester it. You can use carbon dioxide. Apparently there

649
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: are several dozen of these facilities already in operation. Mostly

650
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: in Europe. Shocking no One. The goal of this direct

651
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: air capture advocates is to build large scale facilities, each

652
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: capable of extracting one million metric tons of CO two annually.

653
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: Now remember the goal here, according to the Department of Energy,

654
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: one hundred million to two billion tons removed. So one

655
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: of these large scale facilities built on the back of

656
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: the taxpayers is going to remove one million probably on

657
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Speaker 1: its best day. There are two companies, climb Works and

658
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: Carbon Engineering, that have commercialized different technologies for this technology commercialized.

659
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: Why again, a whole cloth new industry created by a random,

660
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: arbitrary legislation designed to capture carbon. Look the Inflation Reduction

661
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: Act one hundred and eighty bucks per metric ton. I

662
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: can commercialize on that. Sure, I can suck carbon doc

663
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: side out of the atmosphere, but you know what, what

664
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: is it going to do? We'll get to that. So

665
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: you got two companies that can do this. Currently, the

666
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: only singular large scale facility, remember that's what they're pushing for,

667
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: is currently under construction by of all companies, Occidental Petroleum

668
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: in the Permium base in Texas. That facility is called Stratos.

669
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter, but it's designed to capture half a million

670
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: metric tons of COEO two annually, which, welcome to the laughter,

671
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: will be injected into Occidental Petroleum's oil wells to enhance

672
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: crude oil production. Enhance crude oil production, I might find

673
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: that to be a good thing. I didn't realize you

674
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: could use carbon dioxide to enhance oil production. But I

675
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: thought the idea of this whole inflation reduction action, the

676
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: Green New Deal, and the green energy and climate of

677
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: religion was to get rid of the use of crude

678
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: oil anyway, tangential benefit of an otherwise comically stupid idea

679
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: direct air capture. As Jonathan Lesser points out, he's got

680
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: a new report. These technologies and all potential DAC technologies

681
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: have what he calls an achilles heel the laws of thermodynamics.

682
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: Let's repeal those laws, shall we? Regardless of the technology employed.

683
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: Extracting CO two directly from the atmosphere inherently energy intensive.

684
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: Going back to the description of how it works, you

685
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: might be scratching your head, going, wait a second, all

686
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: these fans and turbines and running it through the liquid

687
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: and that's got it, Yes, a lot of energy, and

688
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: he breaks it down for us, further explaining why this

689
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: is absolutely stupid on every single level. Now, of course,

690
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: if you're burning fossil fuels to run these DAC facilities,

691
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: it negates any benefit that that facility might theoretically provide. Right,

692
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: So let's use electricity generated from zero emission sources. Right,

693
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: We just get the windmills and solar panels to power

694
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: these facilities. Here's how that works, he says. For example,

695
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 1: the theoretical minimum of energy needed to meet a one

696
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: billion metric ton objective would require the equivalent of ten

697
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 1: percent of all electricity generated in the United States, at least,

698
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: based on twenty twenty four figures, ten percent of everything

699
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: the country a thredder to forty plus million people and

700
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: all the businesses, industry, homes, and everything else that runs

701
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: on electricity. Sorry, we're gonna take ten percent of that

702
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: a way to suck some carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere. Okay,

703
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: The practical energy required would be at least thirty percent

704
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: of all the electricity. Why, because there is no one

705
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 1: hundred percent efficient electricity production. There's always loss going through

706
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: transmission lines. It's the laws of physics and thermodynamics at

707
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: work here. So thirty percent of every megawad of electricity

708
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: we generated in twenty twenty four would need to go

709
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 1: to fire up these DAC facilities if they were even built.

710
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 1: Remember we got one here in the United States. It's

711
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: only going to cover five hundred thousand metric tons if

712
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: it works, all right, problem they're addressed. Producing that much

713
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: electricity would require building hundreds of new nuclear plants. I

714
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: have no problem with building hundreds of new nuclear plants

715
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: if you and I get the benefit of the electricity

716
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: carbon neutral it is. But we got a little problem.

717
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: Uranium availability is a bit limited right now. Uh yeah,

718
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: we really don't make or dig or produce our own uranium.

719
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: So it means we got to go out in the

720
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: open market in the world, notably dealing with Russia and

721
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: other well enemies to get the uranium that which they

722
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: may not be inclined to sell us. Just the thought. Now,

723
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: if they use wind and solar to run these facilities,

724
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: it would require an area larger than the state of Florida.

725
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: Couple that with hundreds of thousands of megawatts of battery storage. Yeah,

726
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: you gotta keep the power where the wind is blowing

727
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: and the sun is shining. You got to put it

728
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: someplace because oh look, lo and behold, when there's a

729
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: nice big layer of snow on the solar panels, or

730
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: the wind is not blowing, then you don't get electricity,

731
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: so you better take it while it's available. That's the

732
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: nature of the unreliable green power generations. So and can

733
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: you imagine the environmental damage? And we'll get to the

734
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 1: cost of this, but that many batteries, hundreds of thousands

735
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: of megawatts of battery story. The cost to build the

736
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: required energy generating capacity alone, he points out, would be

737
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: trillions of dollars. Building the transmission lines that will be

738
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: needed to connect these facilities would cost hundreds of billions

739
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 1: of dollars more, and totally writes the cost is likely

740
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: to be over four hundred dollars per metric ton of

741
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: CO two remove, far higher than even the most recent

742
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: estimates of the social cost of carbon, which supposedly measure

743
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: the damage to the climate from each additional ton of

744
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: CO two. So you have the reality of how much

745
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: it's going to cost to remove this carbon dioxide, this

746
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: theoretical amount, But then, really, what is it going to

747
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 1: mean to you and me if we engage in this

748
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: ridiculous process. How much are we going to benefit? Well,

749
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: there you go. It far exceeds doing this any benefit

750
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: that you and I might get down the road as

751
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: a result of the carbon being removed. So dumb idea. Yes,

752
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: despite the huge energy or energy requirements, the impact on

753
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: atmospheric CO two, another foul atmospheric CO two concentrations and

754
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: global temperatures would be miniscule. Here you go, The current

755
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: CO two concentration in the atmosphere four hundred and twenty

756
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: five parts per million. Fine, Removing a billion metric tons

757
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: of CO two would reduce the concentration by one tenth

758
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: of one part per million. And if you look over

759
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: at the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Sensitivity estimates, the

760
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: resulting impact on temperature point zero zero three degrees celsius,

761
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: which is forty times less than the margin of error

762
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: in measuring global temperatures. Hey, he points out, even a

763
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: billions of metric tons of CO two were captured and

764
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: sequestered annually, the impact on world temperatures by year twenty

765
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: one hundred would be so small that there will be

766
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: no noticeable impact on the climate. And here is a

767
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: great exclamation point, as he concludes his thoughts on this stupidity.

768
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: Storing CO two underground poses environmental and health risk because

769
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: one it could escape, like what happened in Cameroon in

770
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties. I've read this. I was like, hmm,

771
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: and I do recall reading this story. There's a lake

772
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: there called Nios in Camera and it just burped one day.

773
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: Apparently CO two had been building up beneath the soil

774
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: underneath the lake's surface, and then one day it burst,

775
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: releasing several hundred thousand tons of CO two, which caused

776
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: seventeen the deaths of seventeen hundred people and the deaths

777
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: of thousands of cattle in the lower lying areas near

778
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: the lake. They just makes an interesting observation. Don't you

779
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: think it will be unreasonable to assume that after sequestering

780
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: billions of dons of CO two underground, similar events could

781
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: take place. Yeah, like the wildfires, the volcanoes and everything else.

782
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: That negates literally every human effort to remove carbon dioxide

783
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: from the planet every single year. These physical, economic, and

784
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: environmental realities means the DAC is the technology whose time

785
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: will never come. We can only hope it will never come.

786
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: Why in the hell if this is so dumb are

787
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: they building one of these capture facilities in ten or

788
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: literally anywhere in the world. Compliments of your taxpayer dollars,

789
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 1: you get nothing in return, nothing six nineteen fifty five

790
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: KR see the talk station something you will get when

791
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 1: you talk with Susette. Look at just shut us six

792
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: twenty five and I do have Steve. I got New

793
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: Hampshire Gary, another caller online. Don't have time to get

794
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 1: a substantive comment from you, so if you don't mind

795
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: holding will do him. In the order in which they

796
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: receive means Gary and Steve coming out of the gate

797
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: right after a quick word for my friend John Ryan,

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Speaker 1: a prestige The talk Station six point thirty fifty five

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Speaker 1: KRC The Talk Station Wednesday Big Picture with Jack Adan

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00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: and at the top of the hour a new stoking

801
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: rage out for now Donald and Neil with the Ohio

802
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: legislative scorecard for Americans for prosperity. Without further ado, over

803
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Speaker 1: to the phones, order in which they receive, Steve and

804
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: Wes said, stay on the line, New Hampshire, Gary, welcome back,

805
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: my friend. Happy Wednesday, Hey.

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00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 8: Doing Brian, both priors for both you and Joe for

807
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 8: everything that you guys are going through. Yeah, I've got

808
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 8: a pretty good memory. And the first thing you started

809
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 8: talking about the rarity of mining uranium the building plants.

810
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 8: If you go back to twenty ten, when Hillary was

811
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 8: Secretary of State for Obama, there was a big scandal

812
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 8: called Uranium One, which was a Russian held company mining

813
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 8: uranium both between Canada and the United States. And when

814
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 8: she was Secretary of Defense, she had to approve this

815
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 8: deal that went through. It went through several other agencies,

816
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 8: but they were mining all the uranium out of Canada

817
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 8: and the United States and send it back to Russia.

818
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 8: And then there was large donations made to the Clinton

819
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 8: World Foundation after that. You know, the left hand washes

820
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 8: the right hand and nothing's found. It's just it's amazing

821
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 8: how we're just we got grifters crippling this country and

822
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 8: nobody gives one.

823
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Speaker 3: Food about it.

824
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 1: No question, you got it. Yeah, I mean the article

825
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: I just read express is also an expression of the grift.

826
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: They are spending countless millions, if not billions of dollars

827
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: through this direct air capture. And you know, even if

828
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: you believe that carbon dioxide is bad, we need to

829
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 1: remove from the atmosphere. These projects are an epic, pointless

830
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: waste of time and achieve literally nothing. You know, who

831
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: benefits the two companies that have commercialized the technology. They're

832
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: gonna get all the subsidies and benefits, They're gonna have

833
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: their employees paid, They're gonna build their stupid facilities and

834
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Speaker 1: get you know, probably end up like a one to

835
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: twenty three years Cylindra, out of business and doing nothing

836
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: down the road, because well, what they are doing accomplish

837
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: is literally nothing. So if you're a global warming climate

838
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: change activist, oh my god, CO two sucks, you should

839
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: be outraged that the money is going to this type

840
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 1: of project. It doesn't work.

841
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Speaker 8: It reminds me of those solar panels they put out

842
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 8: in the middle of the desert out in California for

843
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 8: one point two billion dollars and then they and they

844
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 8: were big glass panels to heat water to make electric.

845
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Speaker 8: Then they discovered, oh, it hails out there every once

846
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 8: in a while, broke calder.

847
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: Mirror, just like it snows in the New England area

848
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Speaker 1: and it freezes the wind turbines up and it covers

849
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: the solar panels.

850
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Speaker 3: Right.

851
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: Couldn't see that coming, could you, Steve? Welcome to the show.

852
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: Thanks for holding over the breake there.

853
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Speaker 9: Welcome back, Yes, sir, I'm glad you're feeling better.

854
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 10: Thank you, verch may I put an exclamation point on

855
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Speaker 10: what you said a few minutes ago talking about the

856
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Speaker 10: carbon dioxide capturing.

857
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 9: Sure at the what you should have finished that up

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Speaker 9: with is and then there are wildfires in Canada, or

859
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Speaker 9: or fire fires in southern California or a volcano.

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Speaker 6: Now maybe not.

861
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Speaker 9: I'd all give me a break here, and it it

862
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Speaker 9: Everything that happened means nothing. You mentioned how small the

863
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Speaker 9: capture level was one other thing, and I apologize if

864
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 9: you said that. I'm whatever. I'm walking around the house.

865
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 9: I'm looking out the window to see if the neighbors

866
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 9: left yet, you know, I'm I'm busy here. Okay. So

867
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 9: it's hard to be a Republican. And it's hard to

868
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 9: be a Republican because our side is so inarticulate. And

869
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Speaker 9: and we'll talk about climate change. The RNC should have

870
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Speaker 9: pulled everybody aside that's going to run for office twenty

871
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 9: years ago and said, any time in a debate or

872
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Speaker 9: anybody in the media asks you about climate change, you

873
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 9: ask them if they're asking you about climate change, or

874
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 9: man made climate change? Right, But our side's too stupid

875
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 9: to do that. I mean it is hard to support.

876
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Speaker 1: Well, no, no, no, you are dead on rights to you,

877
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 1: but I think baked into the equation by this point,

878
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: County your twenty twenty six. We've been talking about this

879
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,720
Speaker 1: for so many years of not decades, that people automatically

880
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: assume when people are screaming about climate change, they are

881
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: talking about man made climate change because who could deal

882
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: with natural climate change? What are you going to change

883
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: the sun spots? Are you going to change the Earth's

884
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: alignment and everything else that might have an impact on

885
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: climate change? No, I think that it's just sort of understood.

886
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 10: But you are right, Yeah, but you don't allow them

887
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 10: to take the moniker man made off of it.

888
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 9: Otherwise it sounds.

889
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 7: Like you're ignorant exact.

890
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 9: In other words, if they were saying high tides are

891
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 9: much higher now, low tides are much lower, and it's

892
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 9: because something we're doing, it's like no, but our side

893
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 9: would be asked, oh, you don't believe in title changes now,

894
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 9: and our side would be stupid enough to start answering

895
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 9: without saying, are you asking me about man made versus natural?

896
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 10: Were you curring.

897
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 9: It's very easy to put that in front of or

898
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 9: right back at the person that asks you about climate

899
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 9: change every time. Every time they ask you about it.

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Speaker 1: It's a great points to you. I am not denying it.

901
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: I just think again, the default mindset is to assume

902
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Speaker 1: that people are talking about man made or man responsible

903
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: climate change. Otherwise, you know, dealing with title changes. We're

904
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: gonna deal with that pesky moon and its gravitational impact

905
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Speaker 1: on the tides. Six thirty six eight Talk Station sixty

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday, Happy one, T you five one three seven

907
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Speaker 1: two three Talk Pound five fifty on AT and T

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Speaker 1: pund My name is Brian Thomas, and I always love

909
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Speaker 1: hearing from a good friend. Wessaie Jim west Side. Jim,

910
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: thanks for holding over the break, my fellow cancer surviving friend.

911
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 1: Appreciate you calling in this morning.

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00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 7: Cancer sucks, br Yes, it does.

913
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Speaker 1: Whatever is bipartisan. One hundred percent of all politicians serve

914
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: made say cancer sucks. We have biparts in beautiform agreement.

915
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: The only thing we can all agree on collectively.

916
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Speaker 7: Go ahead, well the Democrats way. Finally, reason it doesn't sucks,

917
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Speaker 7: you know, whatever reason it would be, that's for sure,

918
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 7: just for an argument, but I'm glad your faulg is

919
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 7: left town.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I feel dramatically better today, Jim. I truly appreciate it.

922
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Speaker 1: I'm just still scratching my head over why I'm struggling

923
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: with these treatments and not the ones that I went

924
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: through five years ago. Oh well, maybe I'm just.

925
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 7: Probably changed your prescription on what they pumped into.

926
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they doubled up on the chemo, so

927
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Speaker 1: I get two days where the chemo, and last time

928
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: I don't even recall getting chemo. I just use anyway,

929
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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. But yeah, I'm feeling the effects this time.

930
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Speaker 1: So I apologize for that, and I appreciate the listeners understanding.

931
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Speaker 1: It's just it's just weird, really really strange feeling so

932
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Speaker 1: but not today.

933
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Speaker 7: A couple of things off subject. Brian number one, hook

934
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 7: a brother up on some of that made the syrup?

935
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Speaker 3: Will you.

936
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Speaker 1: Dude?

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00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 7: Four gowns pancakes?

938
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 1: Oh man, four gowns? I got six ounces exactly good

939
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: for The translation is forty gowns of sap equals one

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Speaker 1: gallon of syrup, so it's a forty one reduction, so

941
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Speaker 1: you know what you're getting into it. I actually did

942
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Speaker 1: the math on that with my four gallons ahead of time,

943
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Speaker 1: I said, oh, I'm gotta get about six ounce is

944
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: sure enough? That's exactly what I got worth it. Absolutely,

945
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: I'll bring my own jar.

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Speaker 7: That's okay, Okay, a little bit off subject again, Brian.

947
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 7: We had a meeting last night in the Cincinnati West

948
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Speaker 7: Republican Club. Listen to this lineup. The first first person

949
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Speaker 7: that spoke for about ten minutes, let's talk about Corey Bowman.

950
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Speaker 7: Then for about the next twenty minutes Signal ninety nine.

951
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 7: Oh wow, and the round it all off, mister brilliant.

952
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 7: Tom's inzer.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's fantastic. You know, I opened up the show

954
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: talking about his op ed piece about the railway dollars

955
00:55:59,000 --> 00:55:59,720
Speaker 1: being stuffed.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,240
Speaker 1: Man, that stinks.

958
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 7: That was a heck of a lineup, buddy, But I

959
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 7: understand the reason I'm bringing that up is that I

960
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 7: know you have Corey and Signal ninety nine in the

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Speaker 7: studio Friday from eighteen thirty. So that oh, really pretty interesting.

962
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Speaker 1: See, you know the line up before I do. Strecker

963
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: never tells me what's who I'm going to be talking

964
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: to the next day. I don't even know, So you

965
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: get the inside pace.

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Speaker 7: It was on Facebook.

967
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Speaker 1: Oh well, you know, I have limited involvement with Facebook

968
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: on a day to day basis, sort of rely on

969
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: their algorithm to feed me posts, and that one was

970
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: not fed to me. So thank you for enlightening me

971
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Speaker 1: about who I'm going to be talking to on Friday.

972
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Speaker 1: Looking forward to it.

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Speaker 7: But the one thing I want to bring up with her,

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00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 7: she's got She bought some enlightenment on the mayor and

975
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 7: city council and so forth last night, which I don't

976
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Speaker 7: want to get into because I know time is short,

977
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Speaker 7: But can I be interesting or listen to it?

978
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Speaker 1: Can I just ask you? Did she say anything about

979
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: the situation with the investigation and investigation to Police Chief

980
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: Threes at DJI while she was put on an administrative

981
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 1: leave without reason.

982
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 7: No, she didn't bring that up at all.

983
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: All right, Well, maybe.

984
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Speaker 7: She talked a lot about the the accident and she

985
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 7: talked a lot about Iris Rowley. Oh my god, does

986
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 7: that open some some wounds up on how much and

987
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 7: control she really is of that eight oh one plumb downtown.

988
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 7: So hopefully she brings a sub Friday. It's incredible because

989
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 7: the question was asked, what's it going to take to

990
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 7: get her fired, and that's that's what opened the floodgates.

991
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 7: But she seems sharp. I mean, I'm telling you, I

992
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 7: wouldn't be I wouldn't like to be on her bad side,

993
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 7: that's for sure.

994
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: Definitely, I'm gonna do all I can to stay on

995
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: the good side of signal ninety nine.

996
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, anyway, that's that's all I wanted, Brian. But like

997
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 7: I said, I'll bring my own jar. And I hate

998
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 7: to have you go through all that work just to

999
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 7: help me.

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00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: Oh, it's worth it helping you, aut Jim, You've been

1001
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: a dear friend. You've helped me through a whole lot

1002
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: of jams over the years, and your friendship is just

1003
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: terrifically valuable to me. So yeah, I'll find some for you, Jim.

1004
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: Don't don't sweat that.

1005
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 7: I'm only I'm only you know what.

1006
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: There's always some nuggeted truth and do a joke.

1007
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 9: I know that.

1008
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: And so hey, maybe you'll be blessed by a delivery.

1009
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: We'll see you got to show up the listener lunch though, Jim,

1010
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: you've been suspiciously absent for a long long time.

1011
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 7: I had a vet appointment til the other day. On

1012
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 7: that one, I couldn't and you're you know, you're a

1013
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 7: dog lover and we had to do an ultrasound and

1014
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 7: everything else.

1015
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: Okay, man, that's that's that's your excuse, that's your excuse

1016
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: for one of the last seven or eighth you haven't

1017
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: shown up to I miss your brother, miss your man.

1018
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,959
Speaker 7: I know, and I was close too with with Ron Bruce.

1019
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 7: I hate missing that one.

1020
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Speaker 1: Works works in Loveland. The works in Loveland first Wednesday

1021
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: next month. Maybe you can make it. I certainly won't

1022
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: hold it against you if you can't, Jim, I.

1023
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 7: Understand well that that means I could pick up my

1024
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 7: uh my syrup at that time.

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Speaker 1: You could. Theoretically, you gonna have to show up to

1026
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: do that. Love you have a good day. Thanks that

1027
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: cancer surviving friend. Keep fighting the fight. Six forty six

1028
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Speaker 1: Right now fifty five KR City Talk Station five on three,

1029
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: seven four nine fifty five, eight hundred eight two three

1030
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Speaker 1: Talk six fifty one fifty five KR CD Talk Station,

1031
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: Jack Atherton after the top of the air news, we

1032
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: get the Big Picture every Wednesday at seven oh five,

1033
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: and we'll learn together what he means when he talks

1034
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,439
Speaker 1: about the topic stoking rage. Jack Waiting in the wings

1035
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: Donald and any Americans for prosperity with the Ohio legislative

1036
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: scorecard that at seven thirty. Who we can stick around

1037
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: for that. In the meantime, on a tear about this

1038
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: energy policy, this climate change nonsense.

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Speaker 11: Uh?

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Speaker 1: And thank god for coal. You remember winter storm firm Yeah,

1041
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: all the way from Texas, New England. We got what

1042
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: two feet of snow here in the greater Cincinnati area.

1043
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: A lot of people in Tennessee anyway lost power, two

1044
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: hundred and forty five thousand customers in Tennessee. But not

1045
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: a massive power outage. Now why was that?

1046
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 3: Hmm?

1047
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: Coal that was the reason. Now, I will say Emily Arthurn,

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Speaker 1: who is a CEO of American Coal Council, probably biased

1049
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: on this, but the information she passes along is objective.

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Speaker 1: So enter coal massive storm. The national electric grid held

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Speaker 1: during the here's the point. During the coldest day of

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Speaker 1: the days of the storm, coal fired generation in the

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Speaker 1: lower forty eight states surged typically seventy gigawatt hours per day,

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Speaker 1: jumping almost double to one hundred and thirty. That additional

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Speaker 1: generation representative increase in available power exactly when the electric

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Speaker 1: heating demand spiked and system margins tight notably gas. Yeah,

1057
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Speaker 1: they had a problem with the gas freeze up. So

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Speaker 1: I guess during really really cold weather you can't deliver

1059
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Speaker 1: gas anyway. That happened during the whole huge storm, But

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Speaker 1: coal generation kept power flowing to tens of millions of

1061
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Speaker 1: households across this great land of ours. Looking at Mid

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Speaker 1: Continent Independent System Operator MISO, that's a region electric region.

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Speaker 1: Coal supplied about forty percent of the electricity during peak hours.

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Speaker 1: Over the other region PJM coal one quarter of total generation.

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Speaker 1: Foundational to grid stability. If they remove the coal from it,

1066
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Speaker 1: guess what the lights and the power would have gone out.

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01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: People probably would have frozen to death without evil coal.

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Speaker 1: Contrast with weather dependent resources that would be solar and wind,

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Speaker 1: which is a sort of sporadic, if I may be

1070
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Speaker 1: delicate about it. When generation declined during the storm, turbines

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Speaker 1: iced over. Remember Texas from a few years back when

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Speaker 1: that happened. Solar output fell sharply as panels well covered

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Speaker 1: by snow. And the shortening of daylight hours too. There's

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Speaker 1: your natural phenomenon. Oh my god, the days are getting shorter.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Hydro power also faced limitations from frozen waterways and constrain inflows.

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Speaker 1: This obviously points out the limitation of these so called

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Speaker 1: renewable yet unreliable resources. Coal advantage means these moments, advantage

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Speaker 1: in these moments straightforward. She points out, on site fuel,

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01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: they stockpile the coal at the coal facility. Look it's

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Speaker 1: right there. Turn it on, insulating power plants from supply

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Speaker 1: chain disruptions at precisely the moment. What other fuels face constraints, like,

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Speaker 1: for example, the gas supply. Now, if you're limited any

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Speaker 1: number of pipelines, gas supply is necessarily limited. But in

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Speaker 1: frozen cold tundra temperatures, apparently that is a problem with

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Speaker 1: a gas delivery system. Look coal, it's all piled up,

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Speaker 1: even if it's frozen outside. You can access the coal

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Speaker 1: and feed it into the coal fired plant. Wardings from

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Speaker 1: grid authorities reinforce the point. Department of Energy and with

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Speaker 1: American Electricity Reliability Corporation have cautioned that continue coal retirements

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Speaker 1: retirements of these plants without equivalent replacement by firm dispatchable resources.

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Speaker 1: In other words, you shut down a coal plant, don't

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Speaker 1: tell me the solar farm and the windmill farm is

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Speaker 1: going to be there, because it's not dispatchable immediately. Thus

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01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: risks of outage increase, particularly during the worst possible times

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Speaker 1: for that to happen, extreme winter conditions when electricity demand

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Speaker 1: actually goes up shocking literally no one. Plus it's affordable,

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Speaker 1: so thank God for coal. At least some states haven't

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Speaker 1: shut down their coal plants and others interestingly enough, as

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Speaker 1: we turn the bend on this nonsense reopening previously shuttered

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Speaker 1: coal plants five to fifty or six fifty six. Right now,

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Speaker 1: iify five K City Talk station right after the top

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Speaker 1: of the air news the Big Picture with Jack Ada,

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Speaker 1: and I sure hope you can stick around for that.

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Speaker 1: Today's It's seven oh six fifty five cars UD Talk station.

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Speaker 1: Always love this time of the week and to talk

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Speaker 1: with Jack Adam and the brilliance of Jack Adan revealed

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Speaker 1: every week with the Big Picture. Jack Adthan, welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the fifty five Cassey Morning Show. My dear friend.

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Speaker 1: It is a distinct pleasure to be able to bring

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Speaker 1: you to my listening audience.

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Speaker 12: Thank you, Pal. We're all so glad that you're feeling better.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Jack, and I appreciate you reaching

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01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 1: out to me yesterday and asking I feel a million

1115
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: times better than yesterday. So just take some passage of time,

1116
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: get that keynot out of my system, and I guess

1117
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: my brain is functioning is about as decent as it can,

1118
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: which is always subject to limitations.

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Speaker 12: I'll try to keep up. One lily done that makes

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Speaker 12: all of us feel bad is something I trusted a

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01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 12: few minutes ago. You stumble or stub your toe on

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01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 12: a piece of furniture. Every week at the beginning of

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Speaker 12: the old Dick Van Dyke Show, you remember you'd fall

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Speaker 12: over a footstool.

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Speaker 1: I did watch immediately it was rerun's Jack. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to I mean, I know how old I am,

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01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: but I wasn't watching the original airings of the Dick

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Speaker 1: Van Dyke Show. I do remember that scene every time

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01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:13,919
Speaker 1: the show often though.

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Speaker 12: I don't want to pull seniority on you, but yeah, yeah,

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01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 12: in real time, well, Dick would immediately jump up, laugh

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01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 12: and hug his family. Well, not being as good natured

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01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 12: as Dick Van Dyke, you and I, Brian would probably

1134
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 12: kick the ottoman. It's irrational, it's even mean spirited, but

1135
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 12: we kicked the stuffing out of that footstool, folks. I

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01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 12: think that's a key to America. In twenty twenty six,

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01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 12: millions of people, mostly Democrats, are kicking this stuffing out

1138
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 12: of our country because they're filled with irrational, mean spirited,

1139
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 12: self destructive rage. It wasn't always like this, even for

1140
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 12: people who were a heck of a lot worse off

1141
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 12: than we are. The Pilgrims landed on Plymouth Rock in

1142
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 12: sixteen twenty and found nothing, just a lot of woods,

1143
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 12: wild animals Indians. Instead of kicking something, they invited the

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01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 12: Indians to a Thanksgiving feast. They gave thanks to God

1145
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 12: for getting them out of England, where they could have

1146
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 12: been killed for refusing to join the established church headed

1147
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 12: by the King. America at that time did not offer welfare,

1148
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 12: free schooling, free housing, free anything other than whatever you

1149
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 12: could hunt or grow for yourself, and yet the Pilgrims

1150
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 12: were brimming with gratitude, not rage. The same was true

1151
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 12: for all the legal immigrants from all over the world

1152
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 12: who freely chose to come here. Some of them believed

1153
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 12: America's streets were paved with gold. When our ancestors found

1154
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 12: they were not, they didn't burn everything down. They got

1155
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 12: to work and achieved as much success as they chose

1156
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 12: to work for. They realized that America is not the

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01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 12: land of guaranteed success. It's the land of opportunity, more

1158
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 12: opportunity than they ever had back in the old Country. Now,

1159
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 12: slaves did not choose to come here, and you could

1160
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 12: have forgiven them for being enraged. Many were, but most

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01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 12: were grateful when Lincoln and the North fought a civil

1162
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 12: war to free them. And although full equality before the

1163
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 12: law took far too long, leaders like doctor Martin Luther

1164
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 12: King Junior challenged black people as well as white to

1165
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Speaker 12: embrace the nineteen sixties Silver or Rights laws. Not to

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01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 12: burn cities, but to assimilate and succeed, to be judged

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01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 12: and rewarded as individuals, not as a victim group, on

1168
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 12: the basis of their character, not the color of their skin.

1169
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 12: Black families began fragmenting, with now seventy percent of children

1170
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 12: born into households without a married father, not after a

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Speaker 12: manse patient and not during the Great Depression. Black fatherlessness

1172
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 12: exploded only after Democrats in the nineteen sixties paid increased

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01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 12: welfare to mothers so long as there was no man

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Speaker 12: living in the house. We've often talked about this. This

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01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 12: was democrats social engineering designed to destroy poor families of

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01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 12: every race and ethnicity and make them dependent on big government.

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Speaker 12: Poverty alone does not lead to rioting. During the Great Depression,

1178
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 12: families of all races were starving, but they still pulled together.

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Speaker 12: In the nineteen thirties, crime actually dropped throughout the country.

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Speaker 12: Homicide rates fell by twenty percent. By the way, it's

1181
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 12: no coincidence that the murder rate has also fallen by

1182
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:54,759
Speaker 12: the same twenty percent during the first year of Donald

1183
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 12: Trump's second term. Why well, just as Franklin Roosevelt did

1184
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:04,679
Speaker 12: and Joe Biden never did, Trump is holding out hope

1185
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 12: that America will grow again. It already is growing again,

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01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 12: and not just the stock market. New plants that would

1187
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 12: have been built overseas are now being built here in

1188
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 12: America thanks to trillions of dollars in foreign investment. While

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01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 12: almost all new jobs under Joe Biden were government jobs,

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01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 12: the latest staggering job number show that under Trump, it's

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01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 12: private companies that are creating new jobs, including manufacturing. Barack

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01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 12: Obama scoffed that it would take a magic wand to

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Speaker 12: bring these jobs back from communists. China had much higher wages,

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01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 12: but under Trump were once again becoming a nation of achievers,

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Speaker 12: not a nation of victims consumed with rage and rage, Brian,

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01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 12: over what After Marxists took over universities and culture in

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01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 12: the nineteen sixties, they stoked rage over race relations and

1198
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 12: the Vietnam War. Then we saw rage and bra burning.

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Speaker 12: This really confused me as a kid by women, even

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01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:15,719
Speaker 12: though millions of women opposed an equal rights constitutional amendment,

1201
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 12: worried that women would be subject to the draft, although

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01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 12: that amendment was defeated. Women are they now serves today? No,

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01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 12: They outnumber men in college and in law school and

1204
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 12: many other fields. The free market works. If we haven't

1205
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 12: yet elected a female president, well, Brian, look at the candidates,

1206
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 12: be the crooked socialist Hillary Clinton, and I don't have

1207
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 12: to say anything to explain this, Kamala Harris. We've also

1208
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:52,959
Speaker 12: seen rage over gay rights, which most Americans quickly embraced,

1209
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 12: then transsexual rights, which Americans also embraced as long as

1210
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 12: children were not being drugged or mutilated, and transsexuals did

1211
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 12: not demand the right to play women's sports. And now

1212
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:11,879
Speaker 12: most sinned against of all, we have tens of millions

1213
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 12: of illegal migrants, including child predators, drug dealers, gang members, killers.

1214
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 12: Democrats are enraged that we want to deport the worst

1215
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 12: of them, as required by laws that were supported by

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01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 12: Democrats until Donald Trump became president. Brian, inclosing the Welsh

1217
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 12: poet Dylan Thomas, writing about his dying father, summed up

1218
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 12: modern outrage quote, do not go gentle into that good night. Rage,

1219
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 12: rage against the dying of the light. I've never understood

1220
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 12: this poem Dylan Thomas's father, the.

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Speaker 1: Fight off death.

1222
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 12: It's about death, and that's fine.

1223
01:11:56,040 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 1: Rage into it, don't capitulate to it. Against the machine,

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01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: Rage against it, yeah, Rage against the dying of the light.

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01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah. But to be enraged by something that we're

1226
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 12: all going to face. Dylan Thomas's father did not die

1227
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:15,600
Speaker 12: at the hands of political foes or street thugs. He

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01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 12: did not even die tripping over an Ottoman in a

1229
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 12: family of heavy smokers. The poet's father died from throat

1230
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:24,719
Speaker 12: cancer at age seventy six.

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01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:25,719
Speaker 1: That's terrible.

1232
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 3: I feel bad about it.

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Speaker 12: Dylan Thomas himself, who smoked like a chimney and drank

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01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 12: like a fish, also contracted throat cancer. Brian, you and

1235
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 12: I are lucky, beyond any merit of our own, to

1236
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 12: have been born in America, to loving parents. We both

1237
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 12: still have our wonderful mothers, and we're married to the

1238
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 12: best wives of the world. So when I'm faced, as

1239
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 12: we all will be, by the dying of the light,

1240
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 12: I'll get the best treatment I can, the way you

1241
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,839
Speaker 12: have and the way Amesley did when she had cancer,

1242
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 12: and I'll pray that she recovers. But if I am dying,

1243
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 12: all I want to say is thank you God. I

1244
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 12: won't be filled with rage. I'll be filled with gratitude,

1245
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 12: as the overwhelming number of our fellow Americans should be. Meantime, friends,

1246
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 12: use the time you have in the light to seize opportunity,

1247
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 12: work peacefully within the law to change things you feel

1248
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:26,719
Speaker 12: are unjust. And when you do trip over an Ottoman,

1249
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 12: don't kick it. Don't rage. Instead jump up like Dick

1250
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 12: van Dyke and hug your family. What do you say,

1251
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 12: my chef, Use.

1252
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:39,719
Speaker 1: It as a learning exercise and watch where you're walking. Jack,

1253
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 1: I gotta go back to the point you made this

1254
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 1: whole idea. It's this Trump's derangement center. We can call

1255
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 1: it that. Everybody knows what it is. But these policies

1256
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 1: that Trump has embraced strong on borders, deportations, these are

1257
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:59,959
Speaker 1: literally things that prior democratic administrations have embraced and campaign

1258
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 1: on and crowed about. Obama was the deporter in chief

1259
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 1: and kicked more people out of this country than any

1260
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 1: other president prior to him. And you know, I guess

1261
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's busily trying to catch up with Obama's record.

1262
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 1: You know, how come it was okay then not a

1263
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:18,560
Speaker 1: single issue raised, not a concern raised. What Obama did it?

1264
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 1: And now it's like, oh my god, we're all gonna die.

1265
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: This is the most evil atrocity against humanity that everybody's

1266
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 1: ever known. Ah, It's it's bizarre they haven't. I mean,

1267
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 1: this is just a moment in time, in years ago

1268
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:36,440
Speaker 1: in history when they were embracing the strategy we forget.

1269
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 12: Ran is that people will forget that they'll never learn.

1270
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 12: In the first place, they are catering to the stupidest,

1271
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 12: most ignorant people in the country, or people who have

1272
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 12: an agenda. And that's the multi national corporations we were

1273
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 12: talking about. By the way, a word about Obama. He's

1274
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:56,640
Speaker 12: getting tremendous credit for having deported millions of people. But

1275
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 12: remember Obama was shipping people in Remember the kids on

1276
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 12: the top of the railroad cars that were coming in

1277
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 12: from Mexico. That went on for two years, and then,

1278
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 12: as Obama said, he took a shellacking in the midterms,

1279
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 12: and that's when he changed those policies. There is one

1280
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 12: person today who's expressing righteous anger, and I think that's

1281
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 12: Marco Rubio. At the Munich Security Conference, our Secretary of

1282
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 12: State called out Europeans for selling out Western civilization, western

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Speaker 12: values of tolerance and individual liberty by allowing Europe to

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Speaker 12: be overrun by Third World migrants who don't share those values,

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Speaker 12: who don't want to assimilate, they want a rule. But

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Speaker 12: Rubio could have added that America has done the same

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Speaker 12: thing under Democrats and establishment Republicans led by We've talked

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Speaker 12: about this before the Wall Street Journal, which proposed that

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Speaker 12: infamous five word constitutional amendment, there shall be open Borders.

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Speaker 12: The journal was speaking for multinational corporations moving America's manufacturing

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Speaker 12: base to communist China because those businesses are more interested

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Speaker 12: in cheap labor than American jobs and national security. President Trump,

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Speaker 12: whether or not you like the way he puts it,

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Speaker 12: he's reversing this. Just last month, as I said, he

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Speaker 12: added one hundred and seventy two thousand new jobs, all

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Speaker 12: in a private sector, many in manufacturing, and at the

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Speaker 12: same time Trump cut another thirty four thousand government jobs.

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Speaker 12: The only jobs that Joe Biden created because all Joe

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Speaker 12: Biden and the Democrats and the establishment Republicans cared about

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Speaker 12: then was growing government and dependency on government by Americans

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Speaker 12: and tens of millions of illegal invaders.

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Speaker 1: Well, you gain me a shot of optimism there, Jackie.

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Speaker 1: I then in four we part company this morning, and

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Speaker 1: I just got to ask you. Barack Obama took a

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Speaker 1: shallocking in the midterms, primarily at least in because of

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Speaker 1: his border policy, shipping a whole bunch of people in

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Speaker 1: only to reverse course and kick people out. Might that

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Speaker 1: happen again because Donald Trump is embracing a well, a

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Speaker 1: deporter in chief type of policy that Obama embraced after

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Speaker 1: taking a shellacking. Maybe the American people are still on

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Speaker 1: the side of deportation for the worst of the worst

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Speaker 1: among us in this country. Maybe the other thing is

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Speaker 1: that we all embrace photo ID and think it's a

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Speaker 1: pretty good idea in spite of the fact that Democrats

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Speaker 1: are calling it. Jim Crow two point zero, going back

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Speaker 1: to your point about people being ignorant and buying into

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Speaker 1: that stupid summary. Maybe people don't like they're young women

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Speaker 1: playing sports against men. They seem to be on the

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Speaker 1: wrong side of the equation on that issue as well.

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Speaker 1: Many reasons why the Democrats should not win in November.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they'll happen that way, Jack, It may.

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Speaker 12: We don't all embrace photo ID. Mitch McConnell, who did

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Speaker 12: embrace it for almost all of his career, he's not

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Speaker 12: coming out in favor of that right now because who

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Speaker 12: I said, we have a wing of the Republican Party.

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Speaker 12: We hear them from them on your show a lot

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Speaker 12: that have Trump arrangement central and don't embrace policies that

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Speaker 12: they had always supported. The biggest problem that Trump is

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Speaker 12: going to face is apathy on the part of Republicans.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 12: The turnout numbers that we see, and we talk about

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Speaker 12: this every week because we have to are just deplorable

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Speaker 12: and not in the Hillary Clinton sense, in the real sense,

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Speaker 12: and well, and we just have to get out, be nice,

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Speaker 12: to get out for the primaries and choose the Republican

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Speaker 12: candidate that you want, who is aligned with your values

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Speaker 12: and who can also win.

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Speaker 1: But we got to get out, get out and vote.

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Speaker 1: You know, going back to the rage against the dying

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Speaker 1: of the light. If the dying of the light is

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Speaker 1: the dying of the freedom's liberties and demonstrably better way

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Speaker 1: our country presents in forms of how a government should

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Speaker 1: be run and how it has been successfully run, then

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Speaker 1: we need to rage against the dying of the light,

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Speaker 1: which is the well elimination of it in favor of

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Speaker 1: communism or socialism or whatever kind of crap the Democrats

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Speaker 1: are trying to shove down our throats.

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Speaker 3: Jack.

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Speaker 1: My comment anyway, Jack addan you having becoming on my

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Speaker 1: program to your cancer surviving wife, God bless her. She

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Speaker 1: is your better half and I appreciate your acknowledgment on that.

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Speaker 1: Love you brother. We'll talk again next Wednesday. Have a

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Speaker 1: great week seven thirty here if you have KSDY Talks stations,

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Speaker 1: it's that time of week we get to hear from

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Speaker 1: Americans for prosperity. Donovan O'Neill, you can find well. Today

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Speaker 1: Buckeye Blueprint dot Com are going to get an analysis

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Speaker 1: of halfway through the mid the legislative score session for

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Speaker 1: the year. Buckeye Blueprint agenda items, how far have our

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Speaker 1: elected officials and Columbus gone to achieve those objectives, well,

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Speaker 1: we need a scorecard for that, and thankfully Americans for

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Speaker 1: Prosperity has that. Donovan Neil, welcome back to the Morning show.

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Speaker 1: My friend's always great hearing from.

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Speaker 3: You, Brian.

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Speaker 4: Always a good beginning to the middle of the week

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Speaker 4: for me.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I love what you're doing, and the

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Speaker 1: point being is engaging people and making it easy for

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Speaker 1: my listeners and other folks in the state about how

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Speaker 1: to try to improve our economic conditions among other things here.

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Speaker 1: But by helping folks achieve the objectives through little steps,

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Speaker 1: maybe they can engage a little bit a whole lot.

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Speaker 1: But you agrees the skids to do that. And if

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Speaker 1: you want to see what the agenda items are that

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Speaker 1: Buckeye that Americans for Prosperity is focusing on, go to

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Speaker 1: Buckeye blueprint dot com. And the statistics are still there

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Speaker 1: from twenty twenty three and not doing real well. We're

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Speaker 1: kind of in the middle of the road at least

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Speaker 1: in so far as economic freedom, the education opportunities, energy

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Speaker 1: abundance among the topics that you're pushing. So you do

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Speaker 1: a midway analysis and you're going to ultimately have a

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Speaker 1: complete scorecard. I guess that rolls out of the end

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Speaker 1: of the legislative session. You can rank members specifically and

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Speaker 1: give them letter grades. Yeah, this is our This is

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Speaker 1: actually our second scorecard. We released our first one at

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Speaker 1: the end of the last General Assembly. The legislature gets

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Speaker 1: together right every two years or over duration of two years,

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Speaker 1: and they do a lot of voting.

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Speaker 5: They introduce a lot of bills. As a limited government conservative,

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Speaker 5: I don't like that.

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Speaker 1: Most of us shouldn't like that.

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Speaker 5: The politicians are in Columbus passing bills, passing laws. But

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Speaker 5: some of them, Brian, are good, and we actually learned.

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Speaker 5: I think they're gonna they're up over I think seven

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Speaker 5: hundred I might be mistaken, but between the House and

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Speaker 5: the Senate certainly well over seven hundred pieces of introduced legislation.

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Speaker 5: A lot of that doesn't a lot of that doesn't

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Speaker 5: go anywhere. But you know, we work on some really

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Speaker 5: key pieces of legislation that our activists, our supporters are

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Speaker 5: focused in on. And so this scorecard that we've released,

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Speaker 5: this mid session scorecard, sort of provides folks an opportunity

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Speaker 5: to assess the lay of the land. Halfway through the

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Speaker 5: legislative session, so we can figure out what's been accomplished,

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Speaker 5: but then also sort of set our sights on what

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Speaker 5: else needs to get done if we're going to make

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Speaker 5: Ohio a much more economically prosperous state.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, one of the items that I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of my listeners would like having done, given

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Speaker 1: that we may have a bout initiative on the ballot

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Speaker 1: to repeal all property taxes as a constitutional amendment. Is

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Speaker 1: AFP involved in any efforts to reform property taxes in

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Speaker 1: the state of Ohio. And I had to throw a

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Speaker 1: curveball at you, if to the extent that is, but

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Speaker 1: that's a real, real concern for a lot of my listeners.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, one of the things we do, Brian Ries, especially

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Speaker 5: with our Buckeye Blueprint, for your listeners who haven't tuned

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Speaker 5: in before or caught this segment, we go out and

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Speaker 5: you know, this isn't a policy agenda that we create

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Speaker 5: in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 4: At our national headquarters, or you know, even in.

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Speaker 5: Our Columbus office where we just huddle in a room

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Speaker 5: and figure out what'll make a hole better. I actually

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Speaker 5: go out and we do a listening tour, and we

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Speaker 5: go and meet with all of our different grassroots communities

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Speaker 5: around the state and hear from them on the things

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Speaker 5: they think it's going to take to move Ohio to

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Speaker 5: number one in the nation in property taxes. As you

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Speaker 5: can imagine, we're identified early on this session and so

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Speaker 5: long roundabout way of getting to say yeah, our activists,

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Speaker 5: our grassroots communities told us this is something.

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Speaker 4: We need to work on. And there are actually four bills.

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Speaker 5: There's a number of additional bills, but four bills in

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Speaker 5: particular that to this point have been signed into law

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Speaker 5: to help put people back in control of the property

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Speaker 5: tax crisis that up until this point, right local elected

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Speaker 5: officials just thumbing their nose at the taxpayer. We've put

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Speaker 5: taxpayer back in control of some of that. More work

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Speaker 5: to be done, but I think headed in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: Well headed in the right direction. I think fear of

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Speaker 1: the unknown, the idea that we could control our own

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Speaker 1: destiny by voting to repeal all property taxes. I think

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Speaker 1: it's got a lot of elected officials with the deer

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Speaker 1: in the headlights concerned. I mean that forces action Donald

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Speaker 1: Hill more than threats from you know, any organization or

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Speaker 1: political activists out there. If you see the writing on

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Speaker 1: the wall, like, oh my god, that's going to be

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Speaker 1: a colossal train wreck. We better do something ahead of

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Speaker 1: time to fix the problem. Tends to work it well.

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Speaker 5: I think what it certainly has done is it's provided

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Speaker 5: a leverage point to get action done.

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Speaker 1: Now, I'll say this.

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Speaker 5: You know, in Columbus, when it comes to your state

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Speaker 5: income taxes, commercial activity tax, some of these other taxes,

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Speaker 5: over the years, we've moved from nine tax brackets down

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Speaker 5: to one. We've actually got the lowest in the Midwest,

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Speaker 5: the second lowest in the nation. But when was the

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Speaker 5: last time your school board, Brian announced that they were

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Speaker 5: going to that They've been fiscally responsible, they've made they've

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Speaker 5: made efficiencies, they're they're they're now able to give you

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Speaker 5: a tax break. They're gonna cut your taxes, Brian, When

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Speaker 5: was the last time you had a school board, city, council, village?

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Speaker 5: When have you heard of that ever happening?

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Speaker 1: Quote is quote from Executi producer Joe Strecker. It took

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Speaker 1: him about half a second quote uh, never close. Quote.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 5: And that's the I don't mean to laugh at it,

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Speaker 5: but that's the problem because even with this, even with

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Speaker 5: this sort of damocles hanging over local government's head around

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Speaker 5: the state, political subdivisions around the state.

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Speaker 4: There's still some in their nose with the taxpayer.

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Speaker 5: And I think you know, it's where we got to

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Speaker 5: continue to be vigilant and continue to work to rebalance

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Speaker 5: the rules of the game in favor of the taxpayer

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Speaker 5: rather than these political fiefdoms that exists, thirty nine hundred

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Speaker 5: of them, by the way, thirty nine hundred in the

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Speaker 5: state of Ohio, the sixth most in the country. Uh,

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Speaker 5: that's got a change, and that's part of our Modernizing

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Speaker 5: Ohio government U pillar within.

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Speaker 1: Our blueprint modernizing holl Government, one of the four pillars.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about the others with Donovan Neil Americans for

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Speaker 1: Prosperity Again, if you want to see the specifics on

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Speaker 1: any of this and learn how to help out and

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Speaker 1: advance this very sound policy agenda. Buckeye Blueprint dot Com

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Speaker 1: pause ring Donald o'nil back. I want to mention covers

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Speaker 1: since he because I want you to save money and

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Speaker 1: have better medical The talk station seven fifty five KRCD

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Speaker 1: talk Station Happy Wednesday, Brian Thomas with donaldan' neil from

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Speaker 1: Americans for prosperity. We're focusing on the Buckeye Blueprint, which

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Speaker 1: you can find online at buff Buckeye Blueprint dot com

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Speaker 1: and figure out a way to help out. They've made

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Speaker 1: it very easy to do so help out in terms

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Speaker 1: of the upcoming legislative scorecard halfway through the one hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty sixth General Assembly, and the four pillars that

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Speaker 1: the a Buckeye Blueprint deals with is economic freedom, modernizing

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Speaker 1: Ohio government, education, opportunity, and the all important energy abundance.

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Speaker 1: They just talked about the effort to get towards zero

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Speaker 1: percent income tax maybe within the next decade, and there

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Speaker 1: are a few states out that have that. I guess

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Speaker 1: how do you reconcile zero percent income tax and no

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Speaker 1: property tax? We don't have to dive into that now, Donovan.

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01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 1: Another complication. But moving over to modernizing Ohio government, we're

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01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 1: talking about burdensome layers of government. We all know that

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01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:15,480
Speaker 1: there's more layers of government than need be. We could consolidate,

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01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 1: we could share services, and we could limit the amount

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01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:20,640
Speaker 1: of money we spend a run government. That sounds like

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01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:22,680
Speaker 1: a solid idea. Where are we on that? Where's the

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01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 1: scorecard show up? Halfway through Donovan.

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Speaker 5: Well, part of the part of the challenge that will

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01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 5: The property tax crisis that we're seeing out there right,

1510
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 5: I think is a symptom, not alone in that there

1511
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 5: are a lot of folks think tanks and other organizations,

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01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:41,560
Speaker 5: lawmakers who look at that and say, this is a

1513
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 5: symptom of an underlying problem. The underlying problem is the

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01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 5: amount of government, especially overlapping governments that we have around

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01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 5: the state of Ohio thirty nine hundred political subdivisions, as

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01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 5: I mentioned in the last statement or that segment, Yeah,

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01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 5: sixth most in the nation.

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01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 4: We're unique in how we do that.

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01:26:58,160 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 7: We love local government so much.

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01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:02,719
Speaker 4: We have the sixth most eummentation, right, Brian.

1521
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 5: We have to change that, and so there's not a

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01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:09,560
Speaker 5: lot of active legislation to address that, although actually Representative

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01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 5: Jack Daniels from Northeast Ohio has a bill with a

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01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 5: handful of co sponsors to simplify.

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01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:18,759
Speaker 4: Municipal income tax collection.

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01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 5: So in Ohio you may have to file income taxes

1527
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 5: with your city, your state, and the federal government. There's

1528
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 5: a proposal to simplify and streamline a lot of that.

1529
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:31,799
Speaker 5: But we're building the momentum for next session. I think Honestly,

1530
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 5: the ability to impact that is going to take a

1531
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 5: new governor who's got a bold vision, and we're working

1532
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 5: right now to build policy coalitions to begin to address that.

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01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 1: With all these political subdivisions, doesn't that require like relinquishing,

1534
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 1: a voluntary relinquishment of control and authority in any given area.

1535
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 1: I mean, don't you have to be willing to do this?

1536
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:52,680
Speaker 1: Or is there a legislative fix, an edict from on

1537
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:58,480
Speaker 1: high that can eliminate these overlaying or overlapping political subdivisions.

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01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 5: Well, you know, this isn't a new problem either. You

1539
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:05,639
Speaker 5: go back to fifth about fifteen years ago, the first

1540
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 5: Casic administration. This you know, coming out of the two

1541
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 5: thousand and eight economic crisis, there was a lot of

1542
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 5: effort and there was a lot of approach to a

1543
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 5: voluntary way of doing this, right, giving local governments the

1544
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 5: ability to consolidate share services. But you know they once

1545
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 5: the economic conditions improved, they just kind of stopped doing that.

1546
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 5: And so maybe, you know, I think that's part of

1547
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 5: the balancing act here, right, how much caret and how

1548
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 5: much stick is needed to help provide relief to the

1549
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 5: taxpayers in Ohio while also making sure our state is

1550
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:42,679
Speaker 5: economically competitive in the region, all.

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01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 1: Right, fair enough, it's pivoting over to education opportunity. Big

1552
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 1: fan of that. I am let families determine where their

1553
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 1: children go to school. I believe the money should follow

1554
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 1: the child. We've made some big steps here in the

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01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 1: state of Ohio toward that. Toward that end, we.

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01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:59,560
Speaker 5: Certainly have, and I think part of what part of

1557
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 5: what we need to be able to go do now,

1558
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:04,679
Speaker 5: I think is really look at now that people have choice,

1559
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 5: there's some competition, there's competition in the marketplace, buy and

1560
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 5: large across the state of Ohio.

1561
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 4: What do we do to actually improve the outcomes?

1562
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 5: How do we especially in our public education sector, where

1563
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 5: we're putting more money than ever before. Despite what the teachers'

1564
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:21,560
Speaker 5: unions will tell you, Brian, we've put more money in

1565
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 5: education than ever before.

1566
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:24,560
Speaker 4: Yet we're still getting.

1567
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 5: Horrible, horrible results, and we need to I think start

1568
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 5: to look, you know, well not start to Folks are

1569
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,520
Speaker 5: taking a look at that and beginning to have conversations

1570
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 5: for how do you actually sort of overcome that challenge.

1571
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 5: More money into the system doesn't equal better outcomes. I

1572
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,479
Speaker 5: think we need to be empowering the front lines of education,

1573
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:45,759
Speaker 5: the teachers, and ultimately it's about the families, the parents

1574
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 5: having the tools and the resource, the knowledge that if

1575
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:52,880
Speaker 5: their kid's not succeeding in school, a knowing they have

1576
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 5: options through programs like the ED Choice Voucher scholarship, to

1577
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 5: take their kid to a school that's going to meet

1578
01:29:57,680 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 5: that child's unique learning needs.

1579
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 1: Unique and they are truly unique. You know, some kids,

1580
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 1: you know, flourish in a different form of education environment.

1581
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 1: And why would you want to deprive children of the

1582
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 1: ability to actually learn something? And let's not take children

1583
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,639
Speaker 1: out of class to engage in protests. Let's stick with reading, writing,

1584
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 1: and arithmetic. If I may be so bold as to interject,

1585
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 1: and then here's the key. And this is one of

1586
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 1: the reasons I am really really a fan of Va

1587
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 1: Ramaswamy his energy abundant strategy. You know, that's an open

1588
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 1: for business sign. If Ohio had abundant, reliable energy of

1589
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 1: all forms, including nuclear, I would argue that's an open

1590
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 1: for business side in the state of Ohio. Look, your

1591
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 1: power isn't going to go out. And oh, parenthetically, it's

1592
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 1: also affordable, oh one hundred percent.

1593
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 5: You know, from manufacturing to small business to rape pay,

1594
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:48,640
Speaker 5: you know, lowly rate payers like you and I, Brian right,

1595
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 5: just trying to keep keep our homes warm in the

1596
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 5: winter and cool in the summer. Energy abundance is the key,

1597
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 5: and I think I agree with the vager Amaswami as

1598
01:30:57,160 --> 01:31:00,560
Speaker 5: he's traveled the state and talked about whether it's energy abundance,

1599
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:04,600
Speaker 5: housing policy, jobs, and opportunity. He's not looking at it

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01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 5: as a limited pie. He's looking at it as a

1601
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 5: how do we grow the pie?

1602
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 4: How do we put more?

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01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 5: How do we get abundance and use the you know,

1604
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 5: basic principles of supply and demand to help bring down

1605
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 5: costs and make life in Ohio more affordable with energy abundance.

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01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:21,800
Speaker 5: We've done the work Housebell fifteen, did the the fu

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01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 5: you know, eliminated the final remnants of the House bol

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01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 5: six scandal, and put some real regulatory reform shot clock

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01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 5: times into place to make sure that the regulators are

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01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 5: doing their job. And when an energy project wants to

1611
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 5: happen in Ohio, it doesn't just go into a black

1612
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:41,160
Speaker 5: hole around cap Square. But you know, now we've got

1613
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:44,559
Speaker 5: to see these projects happen. That's slowly but surely occurring.

1614
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:47,360
Speaker 5: In fact, the President had a big announcement yesterday in

1615
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 5: southern Ohio and the largest natural gas facilities should be

1616
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 5: coming to PIKED and we'll doubles in the details that

1617
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 5: we'll see where that all materializes. But folks are looking

1618
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 5: to Ohio because of the bold work folks did early

1619
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 5: legislators did early in the session last year to set

1620
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 5: the right foundation for energy policy here in the state of.

1621
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 1: Ohio going in the right direction. Maybe smaller steps than

1622
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 1: I might want, but steps in the right direction or

1623
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 1: are there. And that's thanks to Americans for a Prosperity

1624
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 1: and all the listeners out there who've jumped on the

1625
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 1: bandwagon and decided they were going to help out in

1626
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:19,720
Speaker 1: some small way or even big way. And thanks again

1627
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:21,760
Speaker 1: to AFP for doing that. Dinald and Neil, it's always

1628
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 1: a pleasure for having you on the program. Keep up

1629
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 1: the great work, my friend. You know you always have

1630
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 1: a form here on the fifty five KRC Morning Show.

1631
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Speaker 1: Thanks those always. Brian, have a great week. I have

1632
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Speaker 1: a great week too. It's a seven forty nine right

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Speaker 1: now fifty five kr CD talk station. We're gonna hear

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Speaker 1: from Jim Lewis the Constitution boot Camp Come at the

1635
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Speaker 3: Your station, This is on you now.

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Speaker 1: Fifty five KRC, the talk station eight o five Here,

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Speaker 1: and that's okay. Joe's a busy man. He's got a

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Speaker 1: lot going on in this world. Addition to the fifty

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Speaker 1: five KRC Morning Show lineup. In this hour, we're going

1645
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 1: to get to Jim Lewis next here. He's waiting patiently

1646
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 1: for me to shut up so we can talk about

1647
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Speaker 1: Constitution boot Camp. We'll hear from Judge Nita Poulton at

1648
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Speaker 1: the bottom of they are. But Kegan Corcoran from Ignition

1649
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:16,400
Speaker 1: Wine is a distributed He has brought a wine merchant

1650
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Speaker 1: in with him. We're going to hear about that, and

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01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 1: Kegan's going to join the show. He always has some

1652
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 1: great wine selections and pairings, and so we're going to

1653
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:27,600
Speaker 1: meet well a vintner or a person who creates and

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01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 1: manufacturers bottles of wine. That's coming up after Judge Ennita

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Speaker 1: Poulatana the meantime. Welcome back Jim Lewis. You can find

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Speaker 1: him online building Blocks for Liberty dot org or empower

1657
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 1: You America dot org. He works with everybody who's willing

1658
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 1: to help him get the word out about Constitution boot camps. Jim,

1659
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 1: welcome back, my friend. Pleasure to have you back on

1660
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 1: the show.

1661
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:49,160
Speaker 3: Thank you. Brian's always good to be on with you.

1662
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 1: All right, It's a say I will tell you, I

1663
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 1: think it's a sad thing that we even need a

1664
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:55,800
Speaker 1: Building Blocks for Liberty site. Because you're a five oh

1665
01:33:55,800 --> 01:34:00,320
Speaker 1: one c three nonprofit. You are dedicated to well preservations

1666
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:03,839
Speaker 1: Constitution by teaching others the importance of this historical document

1667
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:07,680
Speaker 1: which doesn't apparently happen in schools anymore. Jim, is this

1668
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:09,920
Speaker 1: what prompted you to get on this, because you know,

1669
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 1: you've dedicated so much of your time in resources to

1670
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 1: training people and teaching people something that should be quite

1671
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 1: literally a fundamental part of our education system. But sadly

1672
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:21,800
Speaker 1: they can't even teach reading or mathematics. And I think

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01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 1: I have to observe you need to be able to

1674
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:25,600
Speaker 1: read in order to read the Constitution.

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Speaker 3: Duh, Yeah, that's true.

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01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:33,560
Speaker 13: Actually this started for me back in two thousand and

1677
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:36,719
Speaker 13: nine when I was attending a lot of liberty events

1678
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 13: at that point and listening to people talk about the Constitution,

1679
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 13: and I'm sitting going these guys are well intended, but

1680
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:48,960
Speaker 13: they really don't understand what it is. So that prompted

1681
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 13: me to get started in it. And as I got

1682
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:54,200
Speaker 13: started in it, I got to get to the kids.

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01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:57,400
Speaker 13: That became the most important focal point for us is

1684
01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:01,680
Speaker 13: trying to educate kids on this because generation coming up

1685
01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 13: that's gonna save our nation or not.

1686
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 1: Well, hopefully it will save our nation. I just we

1687
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 1: take I just jim, I just have to observe maybe

1688
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 1: state in the obvious. We just take so damn much

1689
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 1: for granted in this country, just so much. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, I it's just so troubling. And I look

1691
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 1: at New York City and Zoran Mamdami, the Communist and

1692
01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 1: you know, now they're going to raise property taxes another

1693
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 1: ten percent on people that actually own money. They're driving

1694
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:30,720
Speaker 1: people who actually earn out of the state. Why we're

1695
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 1: at wealth redistribution, which never works. Find me a country

1696
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Speaker 1: where it's worked successfully over the years, and hasn't imploded

1697
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 1: and collapsed upon itself. The idea of the European Union

1698
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:43,240
Speaker 1: won't even let you utter certain words. I mean, they

1699
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:47,200
Speaker 1: have speech police over there, quite literally. You know, we

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01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 1: at least have freedom of speech in this country, among

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01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:52,080
Speaker 1: other freedoms and liberties that nobody else in the world enjoys,

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01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 1: and yet people are quick to want to eradicate and

1703
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 1: eliminate them in the name of I don't know, controlling discourse.

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01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 1: That is the worst possible road we can travel down.

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Speaker 3: Jim, Yeah, you are exactly right.

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Speaker 13: We need to we need to bring back more manufacturing

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Speaker 13: into this country, become self sufficient again so that we

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Speaker 13: don't have to depend on other countries and get in

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01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:18,719
Speaker 13: all this international mix up with them over free speech

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01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:21,840
Speaker 13: and things that we here take for granted and we

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01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 13: still have here. But people are going to have to

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01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 13: start getting up and going out and you know, protests

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01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:30,479
Speaker 13: in the other way to make sure we keep it well.

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Speaker 1: Protests is quite often predicated on an understanding of what

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01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 1: exactly you're protesting. I think that's reflected in a lot

1716
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:39,679
Speaker 1: of ignorance out on the street these days, with leftist

1717
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 1: protesters protesting for seemingly unknown reasons. If you have a clear,

1718
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 1: strong understanding of the Constitution, you at least know what

1719
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:49,599
Speaker 1: you're trying to protect. The freedoms and liberties that are

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01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 1: enshrined in and our liberties that are protected by the Constitution.

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01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 1: It takes knowledge to be able to do that successfully

1722
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:58,599
Speaker 1: when you're dealing with this crazy, screaming left wing lunatic.

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01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:01,280
Speaker 1: That's the point of the Institution boot camp, at least

1724
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:03,680
Speaker 1: one of them. You're doing another one coming up. I

1725
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:06,280
Speaker 1: know you are, Jim. This one's that I understand. Right

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Speaker 1: State University.

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Speaker 13: Well, we've had a couple of misfortunes here. Our Right

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Speaker 13: State one, they want to postpone until April because they

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01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:16,880
Speaker 13: don't have the people on board to promote it the

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Speaker 13: way they want to promote it.

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Speaker 3: This is a new Civics unit.

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01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 13: That's getting started at Right State and they're tasked with

1733
01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 13: providing an alternative voice on campus, and so they wanted

1734
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:32,360
Speaker 13: to bring us in to provide that alternative voice on

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01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:34,920
Speaker 13: some issues. And so we're going to be doing that

1736
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 13: probably the first of April now and then our March

1737
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:43,639
Speaker 13: seventh one. The host is undergoing triple bypass surgery this week,

1738
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 13: so we're going to put that one off for a

1739
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 13: little while too, all right.

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Speaker 1: In prayers to him in a successful surgery. Of course,

1741
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:51,760
Speaker 1: we're all hopeful for that. So what you just frightened me?

1742
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 1: You are the alternative voice constitutional scholar.

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01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:05,560
Speaker 13: So what it is we recognizes that the voice on

1744
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 13: campus is not doesn't have any conservative elopment in it,

1745
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:11,799
Speaker 13: so they want to bring a conservative voice onto campus

1746
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 13: so kids can hear both sides.

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Speaker 3: Basically.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I understand constitutional interpretation depends on who

1749
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:20,120
Speaker 1: the judge is, and there are different philosophy, you know,

1750
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:25,680
Speaker 1: the living, breathing constitution versus strict constructionists. But I mean,

1751
01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 1: if they're advocating for an alternative, are they suggesting that

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01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 1: the Constitution should be eliminated, eradicated, or otherwise replaced with something, Oh,

1753
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:33,720
Speaker 1: in their mind that's better. Jim.

1754
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:36,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Most of the people we talked to, the leftists are

1756
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:42,560
Speaker 13: like the constitution. It's just like you know, you know,

1757
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 13: the judge Charles Evans Hughes said back in nineteen oh seven, Yes,

1758
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 13: we live under a constitution, but the constitution is what

1759
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 13: the judges say it is.

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01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:54,920
Speaker 1: Or I know what the analysis is going to be

1761
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 1: from judge at a Polton at the bottom of they

1762
01:38:56,439 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 1: are or if you know, people just ignore it exactly,

1763
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I'm going back to talking about

1764
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:04,040
Speaker 1: bombing iron. We're getting ready to bomb Run. Isn't that

1765
01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 1: an act of war they want to get in regime change?

1766
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:08,599
Speaker 1: Shouldn't Congress be involved in that? And yet this silence

1767
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 1: seems to be deafening. You get your occasional note of criticism,

1768
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 1: But I think both sides of the political ledger do

1769
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:17,960
Speaker 1: not like the obligation to actually, as the Constitution requires,

1770
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:20,760
Speaker 1: make a declaration of war. The will of the people

1771
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:24,680
Speaker 1: thereby is expressed by their representatives elected accordingly. They said it,

1772
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:26,479
Speaker 1: We're then going to do it. That is a nice

1773
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:30,439
Speaker 1: hurdle to a rogue imperial president who might just go

1774
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:32,760
Speaker 1: willingly putting this in conflict around the world and putting

1775
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:36,800
Speaker 1: lives in danger and jeopardy. But they don't push for

1776
01:39:37,479 --> 01:39:40,800
Speaker 1: the interpretation. They don't hang their hat on the declaration

1777
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:43,760
Speaker 1: of war. They ignore it and twiddle their thumbs and off.

1778
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:46,840
Speaker 1: Presidents of different political stripes go and do their own way.

1779
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:49,880
Speaker 1: It happens across the board. And let's face, our government

1780
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:52,720
Speaker 1: is great about violating our Fourth Amendment rights regularly.

1781
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:58,920
Speaker 13: Yes, we are our what Fourth Amendment, I mean, we're recorded.

1782
01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:02,639
Speaker 13: You look at all all the automated license plate readers

1783
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 13: out there, all these flock systems that are out there.

1784
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:08,800
Speaker 13: There's thousands and thousands just in southwest Ohio. I mean,

1785
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:14,479
Speaker 13: there's over sixty six thousand cameras in Ohio recording license plates.

1786
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:17,519
Speaker 13: And they also record the color, the make, the model

1787
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:20,440
Speaker 13: of your vehicle. And if they want to do facial recognition,

1788
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:22,200
Speaker 13: all they have to do is add the software.

1789
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:25,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and part of me struggles with that one,

1790
01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:27,920
Speaker 1: because we don't have any inherent right to privacy the

1791
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:30,559
Speaker 1: things that go on out in outside in the world.

1792
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 1: In our house, yes, of course, but you know, once

1793
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:35,360
Speaker 1: you're outside, you give up the right to privacy and

1794
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:35,920
Speaker 1: welcome to.

1795
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 13: Orwell, if I'm in if I'm in my possession, which

1796
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:43,400
Speaker 13: is my vehicle, I have you know, under the Fourth Amendment,

1797
01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 13: I have the right to be feel safe and secure

1798
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 13: in my you know, in my with my possessions in it.

1799
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:50,879
Speaker 3: So I'm in my possession.

1800
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:53,400
Speaker 13: And judges are starting to see that because in Virginia

1801
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:56,400
Speaker 13: they are allowing a case to go forward against a town,

1802
01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:59,520
Speaker 13: a city, and flock systems.

1803
01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:01,800
Speaker 3: Really out you know, laying forth Amendment rights. Huh.

1804
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Speaker 1: I'm very curious to see how that one shakes out, because, yeah,

1805
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:07,680
Speaker 1: I agree with you, what's in your car, they may

1806
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:09,800
Speaker 1: have to have a warrant to search your car unless

1807
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:13,320
Speaker 1: there's exigen circumstances. But outside of the car, I can

1808
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:15,200
Speaker 1: see it with my own eyes. So that's gonna be

1809
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:18,800
Speaker 1: an interesting challenge right there. It is very pivoting back

1810
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:21,400
Speaker 1: to the boot camp. This is an abbreviated class. When

1811
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:23,599
Speaker 1: you started out, wasn't this like a ten week class?

1812
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 13: Yes, we started out doing one night a week for

1813
01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:28,920
Speaker 13: ten weeks, and it ended up being like two and

1814
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:32,160
Speaker 13: a half hours each night. And then we had so

1815
01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:35,200
Speaker 13: many folks say, hey, I can't do ten weeks. If

1816
01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:37,559
Speaker 13: you can cram this all into one day, we'll come

1817
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:41,560
Speaker 13: And so we John Hendry and myself sat down and

1818
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:44,960
Speaker 13: crammed it all into one day and we had held

1819
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 13: our first boot camp and we had like eighty people

1820
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:47,519
Speaker 13: show up.

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01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:48,200
Speaker 1: That's beautiful.

1822
01:41:48,240 --> 01:41:50,800
Speaker 13: And then and just you know, for the first couple

1823
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:53,519
Speaker 13: of years, I mean, we never had less than fifty

1824
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:54,880
Speaker 13: people show up for a class.

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01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:58,439
Speaker 1: No, it was just an amazing Well that's the pent

1826
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:01,160
Speaker 1: up demand. That's I'm so happy to bring on letting

1827
01:42:01,160 --> 01:42:04,000
Speaker 1: people know that this actually exists as a concept out there.

1828
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:07,320
Speaker 1: And I understand Jim Lewis from building Blocks for Liberty

1829
01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 1: dot org. You you'll do a presentation if you're invited,

1830
01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 1: like say, if a school wants to have you in,

1831
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:15,800
Speaker 1: or an organization, a church, whatever, you'll you'll show up

1832
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:19,240
Speaker 1: and do this this this presentation right, are.

1833
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 3: Good to any ladies launchings. We don't care.

1834
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:24,520
Speaker 13: We'll show up and we'll do whatever type of presentation

1835
01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 13: they want, however long they want. We can tailor our presentations.

1836
01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:30,439
Speaker 13: You know, we had those liberty lessons and that's what

1837
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:33,840
Speaker 13: we use now. We just tailor those to what the

1838
01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 13: group wants and how much time they're giving us.

1839
01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:39,320
Speaker 1: And it also comes along with materials that people will

1840
01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 1: be will have available to them including uh the uh

1841
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 1: the the Constitution itself. You get a copy of that, yep.

1842
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:50,160
Speaker 13: Get presentation copy of what we what we talked about,

1843
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:53,439
Speaker 13: so you can take notes on it. Federalist paper try

1844
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 13: to provide all kinds of nice things for people.

1845
01:42:56,960 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 1: Federalist papers part of it as well.

1846
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:01,000
Speaker 3: That's the boot camp class.

1847
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 13: Yes, if you come to the boot camp, you get

1848
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:04,559
Speaker 13: a handbook for We.

1849
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 3: The People, which is a textbook.

1850
01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 13: You get a copy of the Federalist papers of a

1851
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 13: pocket Constitution, an American Liberty Primer, and a Citizenship primer,

1852
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 13: and then you also get a copy of the presentation

1853
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:19,160
Speaker 13: and lunch.

1854
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:22,760
Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned citizenship, and I have to glom onto

1855
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:26,439
Speaker 1: that momentarily. If you become a legal, lawful resident of

1856
01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:28,960
Speaker 1: the United States of America, this is exactly the type

1857
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:32,639
Speaker 1: of stuff you have to know and learn, right, should

1858
01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:35,040
Speaker 1: be Yes, well, I thought I was part of the

1859
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 1: citizenship requirements. You need to be able to pass basically

1860
01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:41,640
Speaker 1: a fundamental civics test, which is more than it.

1861
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:43,200
Speaker 3: Is if you do it the right If you do

1862
01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:44,200
Speaker 3: it the right way, it is.

1863
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:47,479
Speaker 13: But if Congress just comes out and passes along gives

1864
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:48,639
Speaker 13: your citizenship, you don't.

1865
01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:52,920
Speaker 1: Well, right, but we would like to have people embrace, understand,

1866
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:57,920
Speaker 1: and you know, uh, you know, assimilate under the constitutional

1867
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:01,360
Speaker 1: principles that made our country so great. That's be critically important.

1868
01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:03,439
Speaker 1: We don't have that safeguard in place. You got a

1869
01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:05,280
Speaker 1: bunch of people coming in from foreign lands where they

1870
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:08,160
Speaker 1: do not know anything but corruption, and they're inclined to

1871
01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:10,320
Speaker 1: just go along their their merry ways. The way they

1872
01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:14,280
Speaker 1: did it in their their their prior country of residents exactly.

1873
01:44:14,479 --> 01:44:16,720
Speaker 13: And you know, I understand you wanting to get out

1874
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:19,160
Speaker 13: of a country that's not very good back once you're

1875
01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:22,400
Speaker 13: come in here making my country the same way. Assimilate,

1876
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:25,519
Speaker 13: become an American first and then whatever you wherever you

1877
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 13: came from second. And that's you know, part of the

1878
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:32,400
Speaker 13: founder's vision too. Let people in that will add value.

1879
01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:35,680
Speaker 13: You don't just let everybody in you're supposed to, you know,

1880
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 13: vet people and letting people that are going to add

1881
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:39,040
Speaker 13: value to your country.

1882
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:42,240
Speaker 1: Jim Lewis spelling it out like it is. Building Blocks

1883
01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:45,280
Speaker 1: Forliberty dot org. You'll have a regular list of of

1884
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 1: of classes and there is a link there where people

1885
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:50,680
Speaker 1: can reach out to you to have you do a

1886
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:53,599
Speaker 1: presentation at their forum exactly.

1887
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:56,760
Speaker 13: Building Blocks Forliberty dot org is are a website Rock

1888
01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:59,519
Speaker 13: Santa ro O x, A and and A at Building

1889
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:02,800
Speaker 13: Blocks for Liberty dot Org. Contact her and she will

1890
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:06,040
Speaker 13: set up us a speaking engagement or liberty lesson or

1891
01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:06,720
Speaker 13: whatever you want to do.

1892
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:09,240
Speaker 1: I see your email address at the bottom of the

1893
01:45:09,280 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 1: page as well. Jim, can they reach out to YouTube?

1894
01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:12,439
Speaker 7: Surely?

1895
01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:16,360
Speaker 1: Can Jim at Building blocks Forroliberty dot org. Jim Lewis,

1896
01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:18,160
Speaker 1: I'm from the bottom of my heart and I truly

1897
01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:19,960
Speaker 1: mean this. I can't thank you enough for you know,

1898
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:22,640
Speaker 1: this concept and what you've been doing for hundreds and

1899
01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:25,680
Speaker 1: hundreds of people over the years, making better citizens out

1900
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:28,720
Speaker 1: of all of us, and of course hammering home something

1901
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:30,640
Speaker 1: we take for granted too often in this country, the

1902
01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:34,439
Speaker 1: freedoms and liberties enshrined in our constitution. Jim Lewis, thanks again,

1903
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:36,439
Speaker 1: my friend. I wish you all the success in the

1904
01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:38,880
Speaker 1: world getting out the Kinksirron out of Wright State. But

1905
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:41,719
Speaker 1: I'm glad you are there, sadly as an alternative voice

1906
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:43,240
Speaker 1: to what's being presented on campus.

1907
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:46,080
Speaker 3: I'll take you anyway I can get it. Ran, I

1908
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:46,680
Speaker 3: know you well.

1909
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:51,439
Speaker 1: We're a month fifty five KRZ the talk station. Hey

1910
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Speaker 1: twenty two if you've have KRCD talk station. Oh, what's

1911
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Speaker 1: that the appropriate early time bumper music? That is the

1912
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Speaker 1: fifty five kr see plague update theme song. Just had

1913
01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:06,800
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes to get through here. Before we

1914
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Speaker 1: do into something a little bit more complicated and complex,

1915
01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:14,040
Speaker 1: why not let you know about the sexually transmitted fungal

1916
01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:19,720
Speaker 1: infection outbreak that has hit Minnesota? Is it Minneapolis saying

1917
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:22,800
Speaker 1: Paul area specifically, Joe, do you think we're just Minnesota

1918
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:25,160
Speaker 1: at large? Anyway? Coming up, Judge Ennen to Paul Atano

1919
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Speaker 1: on Liberty Without Strings, and then Keegan Corcoran and from

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Speaker 1: Rooda Winery and Spain Ilsey Ilza. He is going to

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Speaker 1: introduce his to Ilsa and some of the Rooda wines.

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Speaker 1: I'd love him and Keegan on the show. So he'll

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Speaker 1: be doing that next and giving us some great well

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Speaker 1: maybe wine bearings for your breakfast. But plague update. We

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Speaker 1: go to Minnesota, where health officials are now warning of

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Speaker 1: an outbreak of what is called a contagious fungal skin inflection.

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Speaker 1: I'll see if I can get through the name of

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Speaker 1: this trick a fight ton mena grove fight. He's genotype setan.

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Speaker 1: Got that for those taking notes at home, you can

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Speaker 1: know it's not number six. I think that was last

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Speaker 1: year TM seven. This is the same fungal species apparently

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Speaker 1: that causes ringworm symptoms, round, red, irritated rashes, the spread

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Speaker 1: across your entire body, itchy, painful. According to UH doctor

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Speaker 1: Hayden Andrews, an interviewed by Fox News TM seven, a

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Speaker 1: specific type of fungus that is part of a larger

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Speaker 1: family that causes the usually benign but irksome conditions like ringworm,

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Speaker 1: jockey itch, and athletes's foot, which is weird unless, like

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Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle, you're in defeat, Joe right, I'm just just

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Speaker 1: saying there's no flag for us.

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Speaker 3: Wait for that.

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Speaker 1: Symptoms closed similar to that of usual cases of ringworm

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Speaker 1: or jockey itch, depending on the part of the body

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Speaker 1: that has become infected. And notably, this is described as

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Speaker 1: a sexually transmitted diseases. To use your imagination round itches

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Speaker 1: that may have a rough appearance that could be mistaken

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Speaker 1: for exzema. First case of this confirmed in July of

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Speaker 1: last year in Minnesota court of Minnesota Apartment of Health.

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Speaker 1: First US case identified in New York in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four court to the CDC. Now it has confirmed it

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Speaker 1: is in multiple cities. Corter, Minnesota Apartment of Health and

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Speaker 1: the statement in response to several individuals seeking care and

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Speaker 1: providing information on other individuals that may also have been infected.

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Speaker 1: Their partners mbH established an enhanced surveillance system to identify

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Speaker 1: the cases. Now it's spread through direct skin to skin

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Speaker 1: contact with the fungus, including sexual activity. This, according to

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Speaker 1: the alert, fungal spores also spread via contaminated objects and surfaces,

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Speaker 1: sharing towels at the gym, which surely makes you want

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Speaker 1: to go to the gym, doesn't it? Maybe the equipment

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Speaker 1: at the gym, since that is literally a surface. Ye, man,

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Speaker 1: I had a tough enough time exercising anyway. Anyway, you

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Speaker 1: have been warned. I guess just day out of Minnesota

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Speaker 1: A twenty five right now, Joe Jenna Palaton awaiting the wings.

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Speaker 1: You with a lot of material to engage in your

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Speaker 1: thoughtful constitutional analysis.

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Speaker 11: Well, they're also providing me with a great deal of

1966
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Speaker 11: frustrationing and this article will you know, I have to

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Speaker 11: keep it to under a thousand words, But this is

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Speaker 11: a treatise, Lenk. This almost reminds me of Bob Higgs's

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Speaker 11: book Crisis and Leviathan, in which he, going back to

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Speaker 11: the War of eighteen twelve, traces the expansion of government

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Speaker 11: power every time there's a crisis. This is the expansion

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Speaker 11: of government power based upon domestic crises. So, what started

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Speaker 11: out as a simple document that would allow the federal

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Speaker 11: government to look at voting records and Department of Motor

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Speaker 11: Vehicle Records to see if individuals had overstayed their visas.

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Speaker 11: Now has been transformed into a substitute for a warrant

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Speaker 11: that allows the federal government to demand of telecom and

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Speaker 11: internet service providers the records of people who have been

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Speaker 11: critical of ICE. Well, who the hell is the government

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Speaker 11: to go around investigating people who are critical of the government.

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Speaker 11: Being critical of the government is a fundamental, profound right,

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Speaker 11: expressly guaranteed in the First Amendment and absolutely vital for

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Speaker 11: a vibrant democracy. And people should not fear that they

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Speaker 11: will be investigated by ICE because they are Americans who

1985
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Speaker 11: are critical of the government. That's what I attempted to

1986
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Speaker 11: articulate in this piece.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, boiled it down quite nicely there. You're on

1988
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Speaker 1: in a summary statement, and I agree with you. I mean,

1989
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Speaker 1: let's face it, folks like you and I we have

1990
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Speaker 1: very deep seated held positions relative the thing's political and

1991
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Speaker 1: if the government is looking into people and going after

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Speaker 1: them based upon their speech, you and I are in

1993
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Speaker 1: the crosshairs just as much as any left wing nutjob

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Speaker 1: out there who is expousing left wing socialist speech or

1995
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Speaker 1: Marxism or communism. You're allowed to do that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're allowed.

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Speaker 11: When the government investigates people for their exercise of free speech,

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Speaker 11: or prosecutes them, or attempts to prosecute them for their

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Speaker 11: exercise of free speech, like the DOJ attempting to indict

2000
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Speaker 11: six members of Congress from making a truthful and accurate

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Speaker 11: statement about the law. They could have made an untruthful

2002
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:31,120
Speaker 11: and inaccurate statement about the law and it still would

2003
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Speaker 11: have been protected, Like the prosecution of Don Lemon, Like

2004
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Speaker 11: this effort to get the social media records of people

2005
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Speaker 11: who've been critical of them. This constitute's chilling. This causes

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Speaker 11: people to have second thoughts about criticizing the government for

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Speaker 11: fear of the government will stick its nose into their business.

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Speaker 11: And chilling is as much prohibited by the First Amendment

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Speaker 11: as is.

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Speaker 1: Silencing, exactly. And it shouldn't be a question of whose

2011
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Speaker 1: ox is being gored on whether or not you care

2012
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Speaker 1: about speech being protected or the chilling effect that goes out.

2013
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Speaker 1: I mean, all we need to do is observe what's

2014
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Speaker 1: going on in the European Union these days. They are

2015
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Speaker 1: imprisoning people for their speech. Do we want to go

2016
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Speaker 1: down that road? Do we want to become the European Union.

2017
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Speaker 1: We do have a first Amendment to thank God for it.

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Speaker 3: Look until the.

2019
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Speaker 11: Cardinal Archbishop of London interceded, a lady was arrested and

2020
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Speaker 11: prosecuted for reciting a rosary outside of an abortion clinic

2021
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Speaker 11: in London. Eventually they threw it out so the prosecution stopped,

2022
01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:39,120
Speaker 11: but they did arrest her and they did charge her.

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Speaker 11: This is the danger of the government putting its thumb

2024
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Speaker 11: an example of the danger of the government putting its

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Speaker 11: thumb on the scale and punishing speech that it hates

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Speaker 11: and fears. Now they don't have a first amendment. They

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Speaker 11: have a long tradition which is longer than ours. We

2028
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Speaker 11: have a first amendment. In my view, the telecom and

2029
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Speaker 11: internet providers who received these administrative warrants from ICE demanding

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Speaker 11: the social media and telephonic records of people. Americans who've

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Speaker 11: been critical of ICE should have told ICE to go

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Speaker 11: take a hike you want it, get a search warrant,

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Speaker 11: or give us a subpoena from a grand jury. You're

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Speaker 11: not going to get a subpoena from a grand jurior

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Speaker 11: or search warrant because they provid they the premise for

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Speaker 11: both of those is evidence of criminal behavior. This is

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Speaker 11: not criminal behavior.

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Speaker 1: Right That therein lies the point. It's like your distinction,

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Speaker 1: and I know it's an accurate one, and sometimes people

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01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:37,160
Speaker 1: need to get a grip with it. You know, entering

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Speaker 1: the country illegally, that is a crime, but staying, overstaying

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Speaker 1: your visa or welcome here is a civil problem, not

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Speaker 1: a criminal problem. So therefore it can't operate as a

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Speaker 1: predicate for a search warrant based upon probable cause of

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Speaker 1: a crime being committed. I mean that's been your position previously.

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Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 11: If you enter the country illegally, you have committed a crime.

2048
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Speaker 11: If you enter legally and over stay, you are here illegally,

2049
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Speaker 11: but it is not a crime, so it can't be

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01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:08,600
Speaker 11: the basis of an arrest warrant. To Ice, there is

2051
01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:11,560
Speaker 11: no distinction. Ice doesn't care about the statute. Ice just

2052
01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:16,720
Speaker 11: cares about projecting the White House's power over a politically

2053
01:54:17,200 --> 01:54:19,160
Speaker 11: impoinent group immigrants.

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Speaker 1: Do you find the silence from Congress deafening on this,

2055
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:23,639
Speaker 1: regardless of place?

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Speaker 8: I do.

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Speaker 6: I do.

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Speaker 3: It's very upsetting to me.

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Speaker 11: I hear more from my Democratic friends in New Jersey

2060
01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:35,480
Speaker 11: than you do. I'm going to guess from your Republican

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01:54:35,600 --> 01:54:39,800
Speaker 11: friends in Ohio. Why aren't they complaining about this? Could

2062
01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:44,520
Speaker 11: you imagine a Barack Obama or Gavin newsomwre whoever's going

2063
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:47,480
Speaker 11: to succeed Trump. We're doing this the other way around.

2064
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Speaker 11: The Republicans would be howling, but without stop.

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01:54:51,600 --> 01:54:53,080
Speaker 1: Well, we were all howling.

2066
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Speaker 14: You know.

2067
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Speaker 1: I'm not a Republican, a little libertarian, thank you very much.

2068
01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:59,160
Speaker 1: We were howling when the IRS was empowered to go

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01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:02,880
Speaker 1: after concer servative organizations for their speech and deprive them

2070
01:55:02,920 --> 01:55:06,400
Speaker 1: of their tax free status or otherwise deprive them of

2071
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:09,640
Speaker 1: even being able to operate using the banking system against

2072
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:14,120
Speaker 1: people because they had conservative businesses, firearms manufacturers, payday lenders.

2073
01:55:14,280 --> 01:55:16,800
Speaker 1: We're going to deprive them of banking. That is another

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01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:19,840
Speaker 1: nefarious element of government being used against the individuals here,

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01:55:19,960 --> 01:55:23,960
Speaker 1: and I can't abide on any level. So that's why

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Speaker 1: we have you, Judge, editor Politano. Check out the column

2077
01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:32,360
Speaker 1: comes out tonight, Liberty without Strings and also Judging Freedom

2078
01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:35,520
Speaker 1: Judgenita Polatana's podcast. I recommend you check that out wherever

2079
01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. Who are your guests today, Judge

2080
01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:39,840
Speaker 1: Enita Polatano, I have.

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Speaker 11: Glenn Dison, Aaron Mante the Great Professor Jeffrey Sachs and

2082
01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:51,600
Speaker 11: Phil Giraldi tomorrow Colonel Douglas McGregor. I'm very fortunate to

2083
01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:55,720
Speaker 11: have these high end people who draw huge audiences for me.

2084
01:55:55,840 --> 01:55:58,879
Speaker 11: Sometimes I feel like I'm shoveling against the tide trickularly

2085
01:55:58,920 --> 01:56:02,240
Speaker 11: with these ice pieces. Keep reading, but I'm gratified to

2086
01:56:02,320 --> 01:56:04,920
Speaker 11: know that it's stirring the pot somewhere and.

2087
01:56:05,080 --> 01:56:09,040
Speaker 1: Getting the intellectual constitutional juices flowing, which we all need

2088
01:56:09,080 --> 01:56:11,120
Speaker 1: a healthy dose of. That's why I love having you

2089
01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:14,920
Speaker 1: on Judge Napolitana until next week, my friend, best of health.

2090
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:15,760
Speaker 1: I'd love to you, sir.

2091
01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:16,800
Speaker 3: Thank you.

2092
01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:19,680
Speaker 11: My regards to Ingram, who I did not hear, and

2093
01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:23,480
Speaker 11: my regards to Joe, whom I probably frustrated but life

2094
01:56:23,560 --> 01:56:23,920
Speaker 11: goes on.

2095
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:25,120
Speaker 4: Thank you for understanding me.

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01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:25,680
Speaker 3: Aishian.

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Speaker 1: What a glorious thing. Anytime. Keegan Corcoran from Ignition Wine,

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01:56:29,200 --> 01:56:31,640
Speaker 1: which is a wholesale distributor for wines. If you're a

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01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:35,480
Speaker 1: restaurant or a business that you know you sell wine,

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Speaker 1: get in touch with Keegan Corkor and Ignition Wines dot

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Speaker 1: com former Saumier for the entire Ruby Restaurant. Something that

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01:56:41,640 --> 01:56:46,960
Speaker 1: ilsa found out about Ilsa is from Rhodeie Winery. This

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01:56:47,160 --> 01:56:49,800
Speaker 1: is a Spanish winery, Ilse. It's a pleasure to have

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01:56:49,840 --> 01:56:51,480
Speaker 1: you in the fifty five KRC morning showing. Oh by

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01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:53,480
Speaker 1: the way, welcome back, Keegan. Good to see it. Thank

2106
01:56:53,560 --> 01:56:54,240
Speaker 1: you and see it.

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Speaker 15: Thank you, pleasure being here.

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Speaker 1: Right off the top. This guy is second from the

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01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 1: top tier sauniers in the world and he knows his wine.

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Speaker 1: And I have been so impressed with keegan skills and recommendation.

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Speaker 1: So this morning we are going to get some good

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01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:12,200
Speaker 1: breakfast pairings from ils Rhode Wines. Let us start out

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Speaker 1: with the reserva. This is a twenty nineteen reserve and

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01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:18,720
Speaker 1: if I was allowed to drink in studio, I would

2115
01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:21,640
Speaker 1: think it's a glorious tasting wine. What type of wine

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Speaker 1: is this?

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Speaker 3: Is this a blend?

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Speaker 1: What type of grapes does it have in it? Just

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Speaker 1: a little bit of it, I tell you what. Ills

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Speaker 1: start out with Rhode Wine. Just give us a brief

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Speaker 1: background of the winery itself.

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Speaker 15: Yes, so it's a winery from Rioja from Spain. Rie

2123
01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:38,840
Speaker 15: has one of the most prestigious wine regions in the world,

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01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:42,840
Speaker 15: producing high quality wines and well known for aged wine.

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Speaker 15: And oak and the grape to star grape is their tempreneal.

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Speaker 15: So in this case, but I guess rod I was

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Speaker 15: founded in the late eighties. We are quite new because

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01:57:56,600 --> 01:58:00,520
Speaker 15: quality wine has been produced in Riaha for more than years,

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Speaker 15: even though the wine has been there for centuries. But

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01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:07,720
Speaker 15: like real quality one start start producing in one hundred

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Speaker 15: years ago, so we are kind of babies. But but

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Speaker 15: Gastroda is already very well known as one of the

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Speaker 15: premium wine producers in Rioha. So we work mostly with

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Speaker 15: temprenello and in this case Rhoda one, our wine, which

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Speaker 15: is Reservo, is one of our most iconic wines, coming

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01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:32,400
Speaker 15: from very old vineyards. Only bush wines because those are

2137
01:58:32,440 --> 01:58:35,000
Speaker 15: the kind of vineyards that gave the best quality grapes,

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01:58:35,720 --> 01:58:39,440
Speaker 15: a beautiful one with really great balance between three to oak.

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01:58:39,840 --> 01:58:42,160
Speaker 15: And obviously oak is there because ria high is famous

2140
01:58:42,200 --> 01:58:45,520
Speaker 15: for oak. And in this case we use only French

2141
01:58:45,560 --> 01:58:48,760
Speaker 15: chok because we love French shock, even though it's quite

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01:58:49,000 --> 01:58:51,200
Speaker 15: unusual for Rioja wines.

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01:58:51,880 --> 01:58:54,040
Speaker 1: French oak is unusual, yes in.

2144
01:58:54,160 --> 01:58:57,360
Speaker 15: Rioha, because Riaha forever has been known for aging oak

2145
01:58:57,440 --> 01:59:01,160
Speaker 15: in American oak. But since the beginning we decided to

2146
01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:03,920
Speaker 15: use French joke because we like the style of the ones.

2147
01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:06,400
Speaker 15: You can get out of it very I elegaint once,

2148
01:59:06,680 --> 01:59:09,880
Speaker 15: very nice complexity, and the fruit is also showing off

2149
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:10,640
Speaker 15: really nicely.

2150
01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:13,879
Speaker 1: See, you got to have that amazing palate. I personally

2151
01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:17,400
Speaker 1: think to know the difference between French choake and American outcome. Sorry,

2152
01:59:17,440 --> 01:59:19,000
Speaker 1: if you put him next to each other, I am

2153
01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:21,120
Speaker 1: not the guy that's got to know you two are.

2154
01:59:21,560 --> 01:59:24,360
Speaker 1: And I get that subtle differences mean an amazing amount

2155
01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:26,560
Speaker 1: when it comes to wine tasting. So the types of

2156
01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:30,280
Speaker 1: grapes in the reservo that you're speaking of, it's mostly

2157
01:59:30,400 --> 01:59:31,520
Speaker 1: Tempernella because.

2158
01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:35,720
Speaker 14: Tempernella, yeah, Tempornello, yeah, Timpernello Yeah. It's uh, it's my

2159
01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:39,560
Speaker 14: favorite grape, you know. Oh wow, that's the grape and

2160
01:59:39,640 --> 01:59:42,360
Speaker 14: the wine that I've felt made me fall in love

2161
01:59:42,400 --> 01:59:46,000
Speaker 14: with wine, honestly kidding, yep, and specifically Rioha, and so

2162
01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:48,920
Speaker 14: you know, I have been a fan of this winery

2163
01:59:49,040 --> 01:59:51,840
Speaker 14: for many, many years, going back to the last time

2164
01:59:51,880 --> 01:59:54,960
Speaker 14: I was in Rioja, which is about twenty eleven, and

2165
01:59:55,520 --> 01:59:57,920
Speaker 14: the way that you know, we started talking, you know,

2166
01:59:58,040 --> 02:00:00,280
Speaker 14: I looked to see if this was even available in market,

2167
02:00:00,360 --> 02:00:02,160
Speaker 14: and it wasn't. I was like, hmm, I wonder if

2168
02:00:02,160 --> 02:00:04,400
Speaker 14: I can sell these. It would be a real coupe

2169
02:00:04,440 --> 02:00:07,440
Speaker 14: for me to get. So I sent the winery up

2170
02:00:07,800 --> 02:00:11,200
Speaker 14: and Nilsa and some other people. I sent a picture

2171
02:00:11,240 --> 02:00:14,280
Speaker 14: of me drinking their wine back in twenty eleven and say, hey, listen,

2172
02:00:14,600 --> 02:00:16,360
Speaker 14: I've been a big fan for a very long time.

2173
02:00:16,440 --> 02:00:18,760
Speaker 14: I believe in your wines. I would love to represent them.

2174
02:00:18,840 --> 02:00:20,960
Speaker 14: So and now the relationship is born.

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02:00:21,120 --> 02:00:25,240
Speaker 1: Okay, with regard to this Rioja the Rotter Reserve Rioha,

2176
02:00:26,000 --> 02:00:28,560
Speaker 1: how many cases will you make annually with this one?

2177
02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:30,640
Speaker 1: Because I know small production. He does a lot of

2178
02:00:31,160 --> 02:00:33,840
Speaker 1: smaller production wines out in California. He'll find things out

2179
02:00:33,840 --> 02:00:35,960
Speaker 1: in California, for example, in other areas of the world

2180
02:00:36,480 --> 02:00:38,800
Speaker 1: where you just can't find it because they are limited production.

2181
02:00:38,840 --> 02:00:39,720
Speaker 1: Wh'll get his hands on them.

2182
02:00:39,760 --> 02:00:41,840
Speaker 15: So in so far as this one is concerned, So

2183
02:00:42,120 --> 02:00:44,800
Speaker 15: we are rather small winery. We're not the smallest one,

2184
02:00:44,840 --> 02:00:46,720
Speaker 15: but we are not also the biggest one. So total

2185
02:00:46,760 --> 02:00:49,240
Speaker 15: production would be a half million bulls. Sorry, I don't

2186
02:00:49,240 --> 02:00:52,360
Speaker 15: know how to convert in in American cases, but this

2187
02:00:52,480 --> 02:00:55,400
Speaker 15: particular wine rather one which is our most iconic wine.

2188
02:00:55,480 --> 02:00:57,880
Speaker 15: It's only one hundred and fifty boles.

2189
02:00:58,360 --> 02:01:01,880
Speaker 1: Oh wow, little, but we export.

2190
02:01:01,560 --> 02:01:04,280
Speaker 15: To seventy countries. We are in the best the restaurants

2191
02:01:04,280 --> 02:01:07,880
Speaker 15: around the world. So we carefully, we very confrey choose

2192
02:01:07,960 --> 02:01:09,920
Speaker 15: with whom we work, where we want the wine to be.

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Speaker 1: Seventy countries, one hundred fifty thousand botles of wine. I

2194
02:01:12,400 --> 02:01:14,360
Speaker 1: think he can consider himself a very lucky man to

2195
02:01:14,360 --> 02:01:18,200
Speaker 1: get a cut, to get your product that is rarefied. Eric,

2196
02:01:18,280 --> 02:01:20,480
Speaker 1: Now let's be let's be honest. I would like to

2197
02:01:20,560 --> 02:01:23,360
Speaker 1: know price points, and I understand price points on wine.

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02:01:23,400 --> 02:01:24,840
Speaker 1: If I wanted to get my hands on this, what

2199
02:01:24,920 --> 02:01:27,440
Speaker 1: would you say the average retail value is for this

2200
02:01:27,560 --> 02:01:30,040
Speaker 1: particular wonderful bottle Keygan.

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Speaker 14: For rote A one, you're looking at about seventy five

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02:01:31,880 --> 02:01:34,640
Speaker 14: to eighty dollars, okay, yeah, especially less than I thought

2203
02:01:34,680 --> 02:01:38,200
Speaker 14: it would be well, and it certainly drinks well above

2204
02:01:38,280 --> 02:01:40,440
Speaker 14: its price point. You know, I think you know it's

2205
02:01:40,480 --> 02:01:42,320
Speaker 14: not lost on me that you know, seventy five dollars

2206
02:01:42,680 --> 02:01:45,520
Speaker 14: is sometimes and many times in ask, you know, even

2207
02:01:45,560 --> 02:01:48,240
Speaker 14: for myself. But at the same time, one of the

2208
02:01:48,360 --> 02:01:52,200
Speaker 14: many things that Sprain Spain brings to the table is

2209
02:01:52,520 --> 02:01:54,840
Speaker 14: bang for your buck and the value is there. You

2210
02:01:54,920 --> 02:01:57,200
Speaker 14: get you're you're drinking a wine that if it was

2211
02:01:57,280 --> 02:01:59,320
Speaker 14: in another part of the world, it would be easily

2212
02:01:59,400 --> 02:02:02,160
Speaker 14: three times much of the price. So it's and it's

2213
02:02:02,360 --> 02:02:04,560
Speaker 14: very flexible with food and and everything.

2214
02:02:04,640 --> 02:02:07,000
Speaker 1: So okay, which brings me to the obvious question I

2215
02:02:07,120 --> 02:02:09,800
Speaker 1: have to ask, since tariffs are all the rage these days,

2216
02:02:09,800 --> 02:02:13,960
Speaker 1: are the Trumpe administration have the Spanish wines imported here

2217
02:02:14,040 --> 02:02:15,320
Speaker 1: been impacted by tariffs?

2218
02:02:15,640 --> 02:02:15,880
Speaker 3: Sure?

2219
02:02:16,000 --> 02:02:18,400
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, you know I had I had to

2220
02:02:18,600 --> 02:02:21,680
Speaker 14: pay tariffs to bring the wines in, and you know,

2221
02:02:21,800 --> 02:02:24,040
Speaker 14: it's a conversation that that we had honestly on the

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02:02:24,080 --> 02:02:26,520
Speaker 14: way here, and that you know, it's something that it

2223
02:02:27,080 --> 02:02:28,920
Speaker 14: everyone's kind of like trying to see like if it's

2224
02:02:28,960 --> 02:02:30,840
Speaker 14: something that's going to be permanent or whatnot.

2225
02:02:30,760 --> 02:02:33,720
Speaker 1: Exactly for uh, well, the court may determine that as

2226
02:02:33,760 --> 02:02:34,640
Speaker 1: early as this week, so.

2227
02:02:34,680 --> 02:02:38,120
Speaker 14: We'll find and hopefully so. And but as an importer myself,

2228
02:02:38,160 --> 02:02:40,200
Speaker 14: you know that I have to bear the brunt of that.

2229
02:02:40,320 --> 02:02:42,520
Speaker 14: And there's a lot of companies that you know, I

2230
02:02:42,560 --> 02:02:44,360
Speaker 14: think the thought is is passing it on. But at

2231
02:02:44,360 --> 02:02:48,360
Speaker 14: the same time, I'm a smaller a smaller importer, actually

2232
02:02:48,520 --> 02:02:51,880
Speaker 14: very small and Uh, you know, it's it's not something

2233
02:02:52,000 --> 02:02:55,080
Speaker 14: that it makes it more difficult, I'll say, for me

2234
02:02:55,200 --> 02:02:57,640
Speaker 14: to stay competitive the market if I don't absorb those

2235
02:02:57,720 --> 02:03:00,640
Speaker 14: costs myself rather than passing, because where I could just

2236
02:03:01,160 --> 02:03:07,160
Speaker 14: increase the prices almost ar arbitrarily, it would kind of

2237
02:03:07,240 --> 02:03:09,080
Speaker 14: take me out of contention for some of the other

2238
02:03:09,200 --> 02:03:13,520
Speaker 14: bigger players in the market. So it's unfortunate, but hopefully

2239
02:03:13,560 --> 02:03:15,640
Speaker 14: there's a solution that arrives soon, you know.

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Speaker 1: And fortunately my understanding, Ignition Ones is doing quite well.

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02:03:19,520 --> 02:03:21,600
Speaker 1: And I'm so happy to hear that. I mean, come on,

2242
02:03:21,840 --> 02:03:24,080
Speaker 1: you're still selling to Jeff Ruby group. Yeah, you know,

2243
02:03:24,440 --> 02:03:26,560
Speaker 1: you were the songer there like Ruby for how long?

2244
02:03:27,320 --> 02:03:29,560
Speaker 14: I was with them for about twenty years, and I

2245
02:03:29,640 --> 02:03:31,720
Speaker 14: was in the corporate office for the last probably seven

2246
02:03:31,800 --> 02:03:33,200
Speaker 14: or eight running all the beverage programs.

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02:03:33,320 --> 02:03:35,680
Speaker 1: Right, you know that Frankly that speaks volumes and you

2248
02:03:35,720 --> 02:03:39,520
Speaker 1: know who knows that now, Ilza, Yeah, what'd you say?

2249
02:03:39,600 --> 02:03:42,520
Speaker 1: You were taking away a lasting positive impression in the

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Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati because you went to Rubies last night.

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Speaker 15: Yes, I'm taking only positive memories from Cincinnati. And yes,

2252
02:03:50,120 --> 02:03:52,200
Speaker 15: we were crossing the bridge also yesterday, and and I

2253
02:03:52,280 --> 02:03:54,280
Speaker 15: put on some nice music and we ended up in

2254
02:03:54,440 --> 02:03:58,320
Speaker 15: Ruby's restaurants. So that's the vibe I'm taking from Cincinnati.

2255
02:03:58,360 --> 02:04:01,160
Speaker 15: And now there's some really nice music in that style.

2256
02:04:01,320 --> 02:04:05,520
Speaker 15: Actually that song yesterday it was Gadsby Style Ruby Jeff

2257
02:04:05,600 --> 02:04:06,560
Speaker 15: Ruby Restaurants was.

2258
02:04:06,560 --> 02:04:08,960
Speaker 1: Like all the elements aligned for you. You should see

2259
02:04:09,000 --> 02:04:11,440
Speaker 1: the smile in her face. It's so obviously genuine. I'm

2260
02:04:11,440 --> 02:04:14,000
Speaker 1: glad you had fun here and you're taking back fond memories. Also,

2261
02:04:14,400 --> 02:04:17,880
Speaker 1: now moving over, what am I looking at here? That

2262
02:04:18,040 --> 02:04:19,800
Speaker 1: was road I R O d A I reserve a

2263
02:04:19,880 --> 02:04:23,160
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen and it's Rioha r I O j A.

2264
02:04:23,920 --> 02:04:26,680
Speaker 1: You'll find it at Rubies I suspect, yes, absolutely, okay,

2265
02:04:27,200 --> 02:04:31,400
Speaker 1: moving over to the Corimbo c O R I M

2266
02:04:31,480 --> 02:04:37,120
Speaker 1: but bo reserve. This is a twenty eighteen Robera del Duero. Yeah,

2267
02:04:37,280 --> 02:04:38,120
Speaker 1: did I say that right?

2268
02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:38,600
Speaker 3: Got it?

2269
02:04:38,680 --> 02:04:38,960
Speaker 1: Perfect?

2270
02:04:39,240 --> 02:04:39,480
Speaker 3: I did?

2271
02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:40,840
Speaker 7: Okay?

2272
02:04:40,880 --> 02:04:41,600
Speaker 1: And what's this one?

2273
02:04:42,120 --> 02:04:45,760
Speaker 15: So we not we do not only have winery in Rioja,

2274
02:04:46,120 --> 02:04:48,920
Speaker 15: we also produce wine in Riberta Aldo. So those are

2275
02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:49,320
Speaker 15: that's the.

2276
02:04:49,400 --> 02:04:56,480
Speaker 14: Town worry, I'm sorry, like Bordeaux or exactly or Napa,

2277
02:04:56,600 --> 02:05:00,880
Speaker 14: you know nap thanks even better A good So.

2278
02:05:01,040 --> 02:05:04,040
Speaker 15: Those two are great wine regions for producing high quality

2279
02:05:04,080 --> 02:05:09,480
Speaker 15: tempreneos entrepreneos, which is yeah, and that grape is actually

2280
02:05:09,680 --> 02:05:13,320
Speaker 15: not very widely planted in other countries. Spain is actually

2281
02:05:13,480 --> 02:05:16,080
Speaker 15: the best place to have this grab because it's made

2282
02:05:16,360 --> 02:05:19,400
Speaker 15: meant to be for a specific climate. So Riohan and

2283
02:05:19,520 --> 02:05:22,480
Speaker 15: Riberta Dalora the two big wine regions, and Spain for

2284
02:05:22,560 --> 02:05:25,440
Speaker 15: producing high quality wines. It's the same grape, but the

2285
02:05:25,560 --> 02:05:28,280
Speaker 15: climate is so different, the soils are so different that

2286
02:05:28,400 --> 02:05:31,040
Speaker 15: the style of the wine it even seems that it's

2287
02:05:31,120 --> 02:05:35,160
Speaker 15: different wine. So we just wanted to show two different landscapes,

2288
02:05:35,200 --> 02:05:38,680
Speaker 15: two different climates, and some people can enjoy so normally

2289
02:05:38,760 --> 02:05:41,560
Speaker 15: real have it be tempreneurs from from Rio have it'd

2290
02:05:41,560 --> 02:05:44,880
Speaker 15: be more about elegance, and tempreneurs from Riberta de Aldor

2291
02:05:44,920 --> 02:05:48,560
Speaker 15: it's more about the power, about the structure, bolder wines.

2292
02:05:49,560 --> 02:05:52,280
Speaker 15: So just two very different phases of temporneos and.

2293
02:05:52,360 --> 02:05:55,000
Speaker 1: You know we're able to drink the ybou KCC Morning

2294
02:05:55,040 --> 02:05:57,960
Speaker 1: show studios. I think I probably would have described that

2295
02:05:58,120 --> 02:06:02,360
Speaker 1: riberto del Duero as boulder. It's a not stronger isn't

2296
02:06:02,400 --> 02:06:04,680
Speaker 1: necessary the word, But if I looked at the or

2297
02:06:04,760 --> 02:06:07,800
Speaker 1: tried the Rioha, it's a milder. It's just it's so

2298
02:06:08,280 --> 02:06:11,920
Speaker 1: smooth and brilliant going down. So but they're both fantastic

2299
02:06:12,120 --> 02:06:15,480
Speaker 1: theoretically anyway, and moving over, let us talk about a

2300
02:06:15,520 --> 02:06:18,080
Speaker 1: blanco you brought here, the Roadey Blanco, which of course

2301
02:06:18,440 --> 02:06:22,280
Speaker 1: suggests as it is a white wine, also from Rioha,

2302
02:06:22,560 --> 02:06:25,000
Speaker 1: this wine is what type of grape also.

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02:06:25,360 --> 02:06:28,360
Speaker 15: So it's the first of all, very unique wine, very

2304
02:06:28,400 --> 02:06:31,839
Speaker 15: small production. I can say you that of this particular vintage,

2305
02:06:31,840 --> 02:06:34,760
Speaker 15: which is only the third windage, we were making a

2306
02:06:36,440 --> 02:06:39,160
Speaker 15: very limited production. And of this particular intage, there's maybe

2307
02:06:39,200 --> 02:06:41,440
Speaker 15: only two hundred bulls in the whole United States.

2308
02:06:41,680 --> 02:06:46,720
Speaker 1: So two hundred. Well, okay, I've given up getting any

2309
02:06:46,720 --> 02:06:51,280
Speaker 1: of this in my hands. Gotta go to Rubies for that,

2310
02:06:51,760 --> 02:06:53,640
Speaker 1: or maybe I'm looking at the guy. Yes, I'm not

2311
02:06:53,720 --> 02:06:56,120
Speaker 1: allowed to buy it from a wholestale distributor. Yeah, but

2312
02:06:56,160 --> 02:06:57,680
Speaker 1: it's rule violation, right.

2313
02:06:58,120 --> 02:07:00,720
Speaker 15: It's very special wine because it's coming from very old

2314
02:07:00,840 --> 02:07:04,560
Speaker 15: via vinyards vires, a very typical white grape variety in

2315
02:07:04,680 --> 02:07:07,800
Speaker 15: Spain also known as Macabello and other parts of Spain.

2316
02:07:08,160 --> 02:07:12,080
Speaker 15: So very old vineyards with via a little bit of greenache.

2317
02:07:12,560 --> 02:07:16,600
Speaker 15: White greenage and mavacia, and it's it has spent some

2318
02:07:16,920 --> 02:07:20,040
Speaker 15: quite a time in aging, eighteen months in French UK

2319
02:07:20,080 --> 02:07:23,400
Speaker 15: and eighteen months in balls. So very serious, one very

2320
02:07:23,480 --> 02:07:27,080
Speaker 15: unique style, and people are actually blown away with the

2321
02:07:27,160 --> 02:07:29,520
Speaker 15: style of the wine because they wouldn't in the blind testing.

2322
02:07:29,560 --> 02:07:31,200
Speaker 15: They wouldn't be able to say where it's coming.

2323
02:07:31,560 --> 02:07:32,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure.

2324
02:07:32,280 --> 02:07:35,040
Speaker 15: So unique and it's super foody wine. You can have

2325
02:07:35,200 --> 02:07:38,440
Speaker 15: it all kinds of food, even with a really good steak,

2326
02:07:39,280 --> 02:07:39,920
Speaker 15: fair enough.

2327
02:07:39,840 --> 02:07:41,800
Speaker 1: And when you're getting too this the tasting portion of

2328
02:07:41,800 --> 02:07:43,879
Speaker 1: the Master, So a test, this would be a curveball

2329
02:07:43,960 --> 02:07:46,600
Speaker 1: wine they might throw at one of the budding Master

2330
02:07:46,720 --> 02:07:49,800
Speaker 1: Saumier Entrance, right, yeah, like wait a minute, what the

2331
02:07:49,880 --> 02:07:52,080
Speaker 1: hell am I drinking here? But it's on the dry

2332
02:07:52,400 --> 02:07:54,920
Speaker 1: err side. I mean say, it's really really dry at all.

2333
02:07:55,000 --> 02:07:57,560
Speaker 1: But it's got a dry error at least in my

2334
02:07:57,920 --> 02:08:00,520
Speaker 1: layman's perspective, dry.

2335
02:08:00,440 --> 02:08:05,720
Speaker 15: Because in Spain we produce mostly dry wines. Okayoha, But yes,

2336
02:08:05,800 --> 02:08:09,480
Speaker 15: it has this little sweet touch because att yeah, just

2337
02:08:09,560 --> 02:08:11,520
Speaker 15: a little bit, because there's a lot of fruit in there.

2338
02:08:12,200 --> 02:08:14,400
Speaker 15: Then it's been aged on the lease for a little

2339
02:08:14,440 --> 02:08:17,480
Speaker 15: bit and there's this oakiness that makes the wine more velvety.

2340
02:08:18,200 --> 02:08:20,320
Speaker 15: It's like a mix of a little bit of everything,

2341
02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:22,320
Speaker 15: but yes, making this very unique style.

2342
02:08:22,520 --> 02:08:24,480
Speaker 1: It is truly unique. And again, where are you able

2343
02:08:24,480 --> 02:08:27,880
Speaker 1: to drink some? It would be fantastic stuff. Price point

2344
02:08:28,000 --> 02:08:31,400
Speaker 1: on the on the bloco, you're looking about ninety dollars retail.

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Speaker 1: Oh really yeah? Okay, yeah, so you're up there with

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Speaker 1: like a Kissler price point yeah kind of Yeah. Kissler

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Speaker 1: is an awesome wine.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I see even I knew that. Very good people too.

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Speaker 14: When I passed advanced, the owners of Kissler sent me

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Speaker 14: a custom ink pen that was engraved with my name

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Speaker 14: and everything and had like a custom enamel emblem on there.

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Speaker 14: I'm like, geez, It's like, okay, I guess I like

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Speaker 14: your wines even more now, thanks Kissler.

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Speaker 1: That's why they do that. Insiders call that chum, but

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Speaker 1: we all enjoy the chum. Every once in a while,

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Speaker 1: we need a Ignition wines challenge coin key and you.

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Speaker 3: Can get right on that.

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Speaker 1: Well, apparently you can get it at Rubies. Not to

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Speaker 1: continue to plug Rubies, but they do have a great

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Speaker 1: relationship Ignition Wines, Keeing and Corkor and Rubies. But I

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Speaker 1: think it's just a fundamentally excellent illustration of quality because

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Speaker 1: we all know you can count on superior quality at Rubies.

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Speaker 1: Say what you want, it's superior stuff. So this is

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Speaker 1: available there one of the very few places I guess

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Speaker 1: around you can get it. It has been a real

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Speaker 1: pleasure meeting you. I'm glad you're leaving with great impressions

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Speaker 1: of the greater Cincinnati area and we're pleased to have

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Speaker 1: you here and keep up the great work very quickly.

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Speaker 1: How long does it take to get a grapevine mature

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Speaker 1: to where you're actually harvesting from it? You talk about

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Speaker 1: older mines and newer ones. You've been around since what

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety or something, you say, so that seems to

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Speaker 1: be just a short window of go in terms of

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Speaker 1: getting something up and running the plant itself. How long

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Speaker 1: does that take?

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Speaker 15: I mean, it's really depends on the grabs you because

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Speaker 15: that's what we have been selling, like not necessarily always

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Speaker 15: very old vineyards will be the best because you have

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Speaker 15: to take a really good care of them. Sure so

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Speaker 15: in this case, as this family defunded the wine and

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Speaker 15: it was from Catalunias, so they didn't have it was

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Speaker 15: no typical family having grand grandparents doing these vineyards. So

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Speaker 15: we've been acquiring all of these vineyards a little bit little.

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Speaker 15: So we have vineyards that maybe are recently planted and

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Speaker 15: there may be ten years so okay, but we have

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Speaker 15: up to seventy eighty years old vineyards.

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Speaker 1: So you're not starting from scratch and putting plants in

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Speaker 1: the ground. You have others you can acquire. That's how

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Speaker 1: that's done. Rhoadeye Reserve, a Crimboi, a Crimbo Reserva, and

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Speaker 1: Rhodeye Blanco, the three we had here today. Enjoy some

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Speaker 1: with breakfast. If you can find it, you might be

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Speaker 1: able to get it through Ignition Wines if you're a

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Speaker 1: Holestale purchaser. Keegan Corcoran and Hills, it's been fantastic. Kevin.

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Speaker 1: You in you're closing out a program or a really

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Speaker 1: positive note. We'll do it again real soon tomorrow. The

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Speaker 1: Jay rattlif I heard be the aviation expert. Of course

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Speaker 1: we heard Jack added in this morning with big pictures,

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Speaker 1: Doking Rage Donovan, the Americans for Prosperity on the Ohio

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Speaker 1: Legislative Scorecard, and of course Constitution Book