Speaker 1: Vicky's got a problem that is like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's kind of it's not funny. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, you kind of dug your own hole
Speaker 1: on this one. But I'm here to help you out, Vicky.
Speaker 1: What's going on that you need advice for?
Speaker 2: Hi? Well, okay, so my son is really into theater
Speaker 2: and he's been into it since he was like in
Speaker 2: the third grade, but he's not that good. I mean,
Speaker 2: of course I would always encourage him. I would say,
Speaker 2: you know, you're doing great, and you know, I was
Speaker 2: being a supportive parent, like most of the time. And
Speaker 2: it's what you do.
Speaker 3: It's what you do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't say you know what, you really can't sing,
Speaker 1: you can't dance, you're not that talented, you're funny looking,
Speaker 1: you know, you really don't say things like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know he's gotten because someone hey rolls.
Speaker 2: But it's been really because there's no other options for
Speaker 2: the productions.
Speaker 1: Is well, guys in theater, I mean like musical theater,
Speaker 1: like local musical theater, they get a million women to
Speaker 1: come out, but they don't get that many guys.
Speaker 4: True, That's I think that is very true, especially in
Speaker 4: high school when you have like three boys to choose from,
Speaker 4: so you will get the lead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, he's not in a Dino or Minnetonta.
Speaker 2: He's like in a rural school, but there's like one
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty students. And now he's in high school
Speaker 2: and it's breaking my heart. He wants to audition for Northwestern's.
Speaker 3: Like a big theater school.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 2: Okay, oh yeah, it's huge, and it's his dream school,
Speaker 2: you know, and he's almost out of high school and
Speaker 2: I don't even want him to audition. And he mentioned,
Speaker 2: you know, he wanted to go to a bessel for
Speaker 2: BSA if he didn't get into.
Speaker 3: Northwest Bachelor of Fine Arts? Is that what that is?
Speaker 2: And I just really want him to have a degree
Speaker 2: that's going to serve him. And this can be a
Speaker 2: really expensive mistake. And I don't know how to discourage
Speaker 2: him with that.
Speaker 5: So mean, no, I.
Speaker 1: Get it, No, I totally, that totally makes sense. It's like,
Speaker 1: huh okay, I mean, if he was really good, you'd
Speaker 1: be like, you know, I don't know Carson was. He
Speaker 1: went to a music school, four year music school called
Speaker 1: Berkeley in Boston.
Speaker 3: That's what he wanted to do.
Speaker 1: He was good, but I never thought that he was,
Speaker 1: you know, like so good that he was going to
Speaker 1: set the world on fire. But that's what he wanted
Speaker 1: to do, and so I didn't want to discourage his dreams.
Speaker 3: He went.
Speaker 1: He realized within a few weeks that he's like not
Speaker 1: as good as the the other kids that were there,
Speaker 1: so he kind of switched his focus to management. So
Speaker 1: you've known a lot of theater people, Bailey, you know
Speaker 1: a lot of people theater people that are not as
Speaker 1: talented as they think they are.
Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, I think I'm going to be a different
Speaker 4: voice on this, So I think a lot of people
Speaker 4: would probably advise her like to you know, let him
Speaker 4: down easy kind of situation, that he should like go
Speaker 4: and do something else. But I know plenty of people
Speaker 4: who majored in theater, got a theater degree who were
Speaker 4: not good at like acting, if that's what they chose,
Speaker 4: and they found other career paths like within theater, because
Speaker 4: theater is not just like being on stage and acting.
Speaker 4: There's backstage, there's management, There's tons of different things that
Speaker 4: you can do in theater, and honestly, more of it,
Speaker 4: in my opinion, is the hustle versus having talent. So like,
Speaker 4: I know plenty of people who work consistently who are
Speaker 4: not necessarily talented, but they have the hustle. They network,
Speaker 4: they like know people, They they go out and put
Speaker 4: themselves out there all the time.
Speaker 3: And if he has the hustle, he could still do well.
Speaker 1: I got a point, yeah, a lot of Like there
Speaker 1: was this a friend of mine who's telling a story
Speaker 1: that he made the All Star high school hockey team.
Speaker 1: M hm, not because he was better than this other kid.
Speaker 1: The other kid was a better hockey player, but he
Speaker 1: had hustle, right, So he got on the all Star
Speaker 1: team because he had hustle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And even if, like if he auditions for Northwestern
Speaker 4: and fails, that that's a learning moment.
Speaker 3: That he can have.
Speaker 4: And then if he's like, Okay, I'll go to Bethel
Speaker 4: and get my BFA there, who's to say that he
Speaker 4: can't learn actually, like how to be a better actor
Speaker 4: while he's getting a BFA. You don't really get to
Speaker 4: learn that stuff when you're in high school. They literally
Speaker 4: are like, you're a boy, go stand here, go stand here,
Speaker 4: say these lines, but you don't actually get to learn
Speaker 4: the craft, all.
Speaker 3: Right, say, basically, somebody's on the phone.
Speaker 1: They're talking about their son has been in theater, loves theater,
Speaker 1: and now he wants to go to Northwestern, which is,
Speaker 1: I guess a big theater school.
Speaker 3: I had no idea.
Speaker 1: I thought Devrye was a big theater school, but I
Speaker 1: wasn't really paying attention. So and she's like, oh man,
Speaker 1: I don't want him to go for four years and
Speaker 1: spend all that money and he's not ever going to
Speaker 1: be like, you know, huge, because he's not that talented.
Speaker 1: So Bailey's argument is like, well let him go anyway.
Speaker 1: A lot of people agree. They say, eddim audition. He
Speaker 1: needs to know there are other people out there that
Speaker 1: are more talented. It'll be a humbling experience. Another one said,
Speaker 1: don't discourage him. College is didn't teach him so much
Speaker 1: more than high school. He should apply even if he
Speaker 1: doesn't get in. Somebody else said, let the world let
Speaker 1: him down, don't let mama let him down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think sometimes you.
Speaker 1: Got to learn the world will not always, you know,
Speaker 1: open the doors for you, because that's that's real life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: mama should be there to be supportive.
Speaker 4: And like if you fail, Like if real life lets
Speaker 4: you down and you fail, then you might learn how
Speaker 4: to pivot. So like if he finds out in college, okay,
Speaker 4: maybe I'm not the best actor, Okay, so what else
Speaker 4: can I learn in this field that I love so much?
Speaker 4: And that I wish I had majored in theater. I
Speaker 4: would have loved it. But I was also told not
Speaker 4: to why why by who? My parents they said like, SA,
Speaker 4: same with Vicky's. It wasn't like marketable, and so they
Speaker 4: were like, you should have something that look a little bit.
Speaker 1: Better on your vestrat. Well here's somebody who said a
Speaker 1: text at KATWB one. We told our kids, you got
Speaker 1: to get a degree that sounds like a job and
Speaker 1: not a hobby.
Speaker 3: I mean, my parents never did that to me.
Speaker 6: I always knew that this is what I wanted to pursue,
Speaker 6: like the arts in essence, And I don't think I
Speaker 6: was ever particularly better than one kid or another, But
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I guess it's just every parent is different. I also
Speaker 3: hope that for Vicky. I'm sure I'm sure Vicky thought
Speaker 3: that hopefully as he.
Speaker 6: Got older, he would maybe get a little bit better
Speaker 6: at it.
Speaker 3: And I guess now she's just not saying that.
Speaker 5: I think also, Vicky should be prepared to be the
Speaker 5: reason he goes to therapy if you do come up
Speaker 5: to him and be like, you're not talented, because then
Speaker 5: he's going to have such a like issue with himself. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say complex with himself of something he's
Speaker 5: been doing his whole life a lot.
Speaker 1: There's different sides on this one. Some people are like
Speaker 1: it is a waste of money, for sure. I'm sure
Speaker 1: there are people who went to school for theater or
Speaker 1: to major in dance, or you know, some other unmarketable
Speaker 1: degree like New Zealand Kuala Bear studies.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking about. That degree, Well, but
Speaker 3: it's a.
Speaker 1: Worthless one unless you're going to work ben at Zoo
Speaker 1: or I don't know. So I don't know, but I
Speaker 1: think that he'll It'll be an expensive lesson, but he'll
Speaker 1: learn it early in life and maybe that's a good thing.
Speaker 1: So should she tell him, should she say don't do it?
Speaker 1: Or should she let him fail on his own? And
Speaker 1: who knows he might do? Yeah, here's a Texas says
Speaker 1: I went to school for music at Bethel. I'm eighty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars in debt. I just ended up going to
Speaker 1: a state school for a business degree after that music
Speaker 1: degree did nothing for me and just made me in debt.
Speaker 1: If I could do it all over again, I go
Speaker 1: straight to a state school.
Speaker 6: But you just don't want to go through. That was
Speaker 6: the money and the debt, but also the embarrassment. My
Speaker 6: little sister, she's fifteen, and there was she went to
Speaker 6: a little phase where she thought she could sing, and
Speaker 6: so my mom or she went to my mom and said, hey, Mom,
Speaker 6: I want to sign up for America's Got Talent.
Speaker 3: And I texted my mom.
Speaker 6: I was like, please don't let bredo this, please, because
Speaker 6: I want to save her the embarrassment.
Speaker 3: She just can't sing. She really can't sing.
Speaker 4: No, get that like trying to save your kid from embarrassing.
Speaker 4: But sometimes, like the embarrassment is what is going to
Speaker 4: teach you how to pivot?
Speaker 1: I guess I think there's also it's really it's such
Speaker 1: a picky matter. It's sometimes like Carson I said, you've
Speaker 1: got to follow your dream. If you don't follow your dream,
Speaker 1: you will spend the rest of your life wondering what happened.
Speaker 1: He went to school at Berkeley. Within a few weeks.
Speaker 1: Have told you the story, he realized that he was
Speaker 1: not as good as ninety percent of the kids that
Speaker 1: were there. But he also said Berkeley was loaded with
Speaker 1: people who thought they could sing that really couldn't sing
Speaker 1: that well, but Berkeley was happy to accept them because
Speaker 1: chat ching, here comes your tuition money.
Speaker 5: I have a question for Bailey then, because you said
Speaker 5: that you wish you would have gone to school for theater.
Speaker 5: But like, when it comes down to it, wouldn't you
Speaker 5: say just getting involved in the community might help you further.
Speaker 3: They're actually having to be fa.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, I one hundred percent agree.
Speaker 3: That's what.
Speaker 4: So that's kind of what I mean with like it's
Speaker 4: a hustle over like having actual talent. Like I know
Speaker 4: a lot of people in musical theater who got a
Speaker 4: degree in musical theater who then kind of said that
Speaker 4: they didn't need it.
Speaker 3: As long as you have the talent, then you.
Speaker 4: Can get a role doing anything, honestly, because people want
Speaker 4: the talent.
Speaker 3: So I don't think you need that.
Speaker 4: But if this kid doesn't have talent, like he might
Speaker 4: actually be able to benefit from the degree in terms
Speaker 4: of networking, because like networking is going to be more
Speaker 4: difficult if you're not like you know, are automatically like
Speaker 4: woven into a group of people that you would if
Speaker 4: you went to school for it.
Speaker 5: I just think that, like one huge thing you learn
Speaker 5: in college is it's not necessarily like I thought, you
Speaker 5: go to college, you get your degree, you get your
Speaker 5: a job. Yeah, that's not necessarily how it is. It
Speaker 5: is about getting out there and networking and getting internships
Speaker 5: and stuff like that. So I think that there's still
Speaker 5: an opportunity, VICKI to talk to him about maybe getting
Speaker 5: a different degree and minor in theater or something like that,
Speaker 5: and then tell him to still stay involved in theater,
Speaker 5: but like have this other degree to help him out
Speaker 5: in the case that, right, he can't get what he wants.
Speaker 4: Yeah, with theater or major in theater and minor in business,
Speaker 4: do whatever. But yeah, got it. It's the hustle. You
Speaker 4: gotta teach him the hustle.
Speaker 3: It really is the hustle.
Speaker 1: I mean seriously, It's like one of the reasons that
Speaker 1: I've been able to sustain in this business for so
Speaker 1: long is because I used to hustle. When everybody else
Speaker 1: was out playing golf and smoking weed, I was there
Speaker 1: at the radio station working on stuff and was like
Speaker 1: they always knew that if they asked me to do something,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be like, yeah, I'll get around to it.
Speaker 3: I'm like I'll do it right now.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of it's hustle, Hey, Vicky, good luck,
Speaker 1: and everything will be fine.
Speaker 3: We all worry about our kids.
Speaker 1: I know somebody right now whose kid is about your age,
Speaker 1: and it's like he has no ambition. It'll come around,
Speaker 1: you know, at least he's got the ambition to go
Speaker 1: do something. Either way, it'll turn out fine.
Speaker 3: Hey, good luck. If you want to be on group therapy.
Speaker 1: You got a question, then send an email to Ryan's
Speaker 1: show at kdwb at dot com.