1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: The Mark Billing podcast is presented by you Line for 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: quality shipping and industrial supplies. You Line has everything in stock. 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Visit you line dot com. The Markbelling podcast is a 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio Podcasts. 5 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: Virtually every government program is vulnerable to all sorts of scamming. 6 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 2: There are a lot of reasons for this. The biggest 7 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: one is the people who run the government. It's no 8 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 2: skin off their back if something's been scammed. If you 9 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 2: and I own a business and we're scammed, we lose 10 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: that money. Nobody in government particularly focuses on that. Secondly, 11 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: when the program is set up, there are always people 12 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: that are eyeballing it to see how it can be scammed. 13 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: When we think of scamming, we usually think of financial 14 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: In fact, in a few moments, I'll be discussing the 15 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 2: story of a Democratic congresswoman from Florida who's accused of 16 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: setting up a company that stole five million dollars from FEMA. 17 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: But that's not the only way something can be scammed. 18 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: When Congress, with good intention passed the Americans with Disabilities Act, 19 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 2: nobody ever thought at the time that it would be 20 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: interpreted to include virtually anything that anyone would ever claim 21 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: is a disability. But again that's the problem with setting 22 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: things like this up, and whenever anyone tries to oppose it, 23 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: they're attacked in the media and attacked by the supporters 24 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: of the programmers saying you don't care about then whatever 25 00:01:53,760 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: the program, whatever the problem is. I've got an excellent 26 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: example of all of this to start today's podcast. It's 27 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 2: the result of a very good investigation that Fox six 28 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: has done, and I'm going to tee it up just 29 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 2: briefly before I share a little bit of information about 30 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: you line with you and then roll into the topic. 31 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: I'll tee it up briefly. Here's something that I don't 32 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: even have to get into the specifics. Everybody knows has 33 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: been filled with scams on all sorts of different levels, 34 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: emotional support animals. All you have to do is say 35 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 2: those words, and everybody will have a scam in mind, 36 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 2: and they're all going to be different because the whole 37 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: concept is open to be scammed. Let's start with this. 38 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: What is any emotional support animal? I don't know that 39 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: anyone can define it. So when something isn't defined, that 40 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: means any animal I guess can be an emotional support animal. 41 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: The maintime. Think about this. Now, let's think about well, 42 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: we have to come up with some criteria to make 43 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: something an emotional support animal those of you that are 44 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: not minded like a scammer, but well, that sounds like 45 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: a good thing. You have to put yourself in the 46 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 2: other guy's shoes and turn yourself into a scammer. Paul, 47 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: I don't think is any good at that because Paul 48 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: is just too naive and you can't think like a scammer, 49 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: can you? You can't? You just you know there you are, 50 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 2: you on these storage lockers. I'm guessing you could scam 51 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: that thing like crazy out there, but you're just too 52 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: honest of a guy. Is that is that your thing? 53 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm guessing I could just, off the top 54 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: of my head come of nine million different ways to 55 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: scam that thing, you know, set up some extra fee 56 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: for insurance, and then not pay any insurance company, just pocketed, 57 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: figuring that nobody's ever going to bust in, and just 58 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: any number of Anyway, before we roll into this, i'll 59 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: share you the share with you the follow up information. 60 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: You line moves fast so your business doesn't miss a beat. 61 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: From shipping and industrial supplies to office furniture. U line 62 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: offers a wide range of products that are in stock 63 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: and ready to ship the same day if you order 64 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: by six pm, even the big stuff. You Line's expert 65 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: customer service team is available twenty four to seven to 66 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: answer your questions, help you quickly and easily place an order, 67 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: or assist with any other business needs. Visit you line 68 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: dot com now. The following story was reported by Fox 69 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: Sis a big investigation. Brian Pulsin's their investigative reporter. You 70 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: can find all of it on their website, but I'm 71 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: gonna sure you pick out some details because I want 72 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: to focus on several elements of the story that are 73 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 2: interesting to me. Back in twenty thirteen, you have to 74 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: follow the timelines of this who was the president in 75 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, Obama, They were doing all of this good 76 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: do good or stuff. They issued a rule during the 77 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: Obama administration that even if say an apartment building, a 78 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: facility like that is no pets allowed, an exception is 79 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: made for emotional support animals for people who need them. 80 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 2: And again you could see why people would bite that 81 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 2: this would be a good idea, Well what about people 82 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: who really need And the first thing that anybody ever 83 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: thinks of is you know a seeing eye dog, Well 84 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: they need that. How can you make somebody live in 85 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: an apartment and they can't have their guide dog. Of course, 86 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 2: instantly this program got scammed and everybody under the sun 87 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: said this is my emotional support animal. And the next 88 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: thing you know, all of these no pets allowed facilities 89 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: are swimming with pets and geese and dogs and everything 90 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 2: else that people would claim. So now let's get to 91 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:03,679 Speaker 2: twenty twenty. Follow your timelines. Who's the president in twenty 92 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 2: twenty Trump? So they decide to tighten this up and 93 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: they require that you have to be certified as someone 94 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: who needs any emotional support animal. They wrote that in 95 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: and within that language is you needed to have the 96 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: approval of a trained professional to certify that you needed that. 97 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: That's what was written in and again that's a good 98 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: thing to write in, but it's also an opportunity. And 99 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: this is where a guy like you, you just can't imagine 100 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: how that would be an opportunity. You would think that, well, 101 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: we've tightened things up, whereas somebody else is seeing the 102 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: dollar signs roll through, which brings us to the Fox 103 00:06:52,560 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: six report. There are businesses all over the country that 104 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 2: will send you a certification that you need an emotional 105 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: support animal. The Internet has allowed these kinds of businesses 106 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: to flourish. Now, imagine before we're in the Internet age, 107 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: go back to say, nineteen ninety five, before there really 108 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: was an internet. If you were going to offer up 109 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: that type of business, how does anybody even know that 110 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: you exist? How do you put yourself in front of 111 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: the eyeballs of all of the people who want to 112 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: be able to have an emotional support animal. It's hard 113 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: to do. But now the Internet is out there. You 114 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: put up a website, you're found in a search engine, 115 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: and a number of these places set up shop. Some 116 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: are more legitimate than others. Now, let me move to 117 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: a side topic before we get back. One of the 118 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: things that I admit I wasn't aware of, and probably 119 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: many of you are not aware of, is that the 120 00:07:53,520 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: whole field right now of counseling is moving online. I 121 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: found this out through a personal contact. I know someone 122 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: who I knew some well. I dated someone who was 123 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: a therapist a couple of years ago in Florida. She 124 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: was legitimate. About half of her client tell It started 125 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: during COVID and it just continued. They do a zoom 126 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: or Skype or any of the other services FaceTime or 127 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: whatever it is, and a lot of clients prefer it 128 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: that they prefer to talk to the counselor while they're 129 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: in their own home the counselor's in her office or 130 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: wherever it is. And this is just growing and I 131 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: can't see any reason why it's a bad idea. But 132 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: it's a side part of this. But it's going to 133 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: relate to the discussion that we have with regard to 134 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: the emotional support animals. So the story that Fox six 135 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: does is about a guy who's got a business in 136 00:08:54,600 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: elm Grove and his business is to provide letters that 137 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: indicate that this person requires an emotional support animal. That's 138 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: his business. Now you would think in order to get 139 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: into that business you'd have to be qualified. Well, this 140 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: is why you and I need to be better scammers, 141 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: because you and I could set up this business. He's 142 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: got the business in Elmgrove and he puts up a 143 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 2: website saying that he can provide you with a letter 144 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: indicating that you are in need of an emotional support animal. Now, 145 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 2: remember I said that under the law as redrawn by 146 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: Trump in twenty twenty. You had to show, you had 147 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: to show proof from a qualified and trained expert that 148 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: you need this. Now this guy just has his website. 149 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: I've been able to dig up a fair amount of 150 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 2: information about the guy as well. His name is Sas Sass, 151 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: and as it turns out, Sas his first name is Chris. 152 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: Came to the attention of Fox six because a guy 153 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: in Florida who's been doing the same thing, but he 154 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: contends qualified professionally. In other words, he'll do evaluations on 155 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: a professional in thorough nature. And he's apparently been disgusted. 156 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: But all of these competitors that are setting up who 157 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: don't do any evaluation at all. So my guess is 158 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: that that's how because they interview this guy, how he 159 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: grew who the Umgrove business to the attention of Fox sex. 160 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: My guess is this guy's cherry picking over the internet. 161 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 2: And if there's somebody, say in Louisville, kentucky'll contact an 162 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: investigative reporter in Louisville and so on. Anyway, here's the guy, 163 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: Chris says. I ran his LinkedIn nothing to do with 164 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: psychology at all. He's working as a residential placement expert 165 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: for an apartment complex that I think deals with senior citizens. 166 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: It's called Newcastle Place. Some of you may know about that, 167 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: but that on his LinkedIn he says he's a residential 168 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: specialist at Newcastle. Before that, he worked in retail. He 169 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 2: was at Bontan stores for a while and so on, 170 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 2: And in twenty seventeen he opened up this business titled 171 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: Touch Emotional Support Animal Assistance. Touch Emotional Support Animal Assistance, 172 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 2: and the Fox Sex Reporter goes to the website and 173 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: what you see is there's like a questionnaire. It's one 174 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: of these questionnaires that you have to be. You are 175 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 2: hopeless if you can't fill it out and get the 176 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,599 Speaker 2: emotional support animal it will ask. It's a bunch of 177 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 2: questions that are ABC and D and A is always 178 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 2: the answer that would indicate that you need in emotionals 179 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: and it's quite answer apparently, questions like do you feel lonely, 180 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 2: do you feel stressed out? Are you more comfortable with 181 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: you when you're with it, et cetera. That's all it is. 182 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 2: You fill it out online. On his website himself, he says, 183 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: over ninety nine percent of our applicants are successful. He's 184 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: advertising essentially that no matter what you do, we're going 185 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: to give you the certification. Now, remember, go back to 186 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: what I said was put in during Trump and twenty twenty. 187 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: What did I say was put into the law during 188 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: Trump and twenty twenty? How can you possibly have forgotten this? 189 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: This was seventy five seconds ago. Why it was not 190 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: more than that you needed to have the approval of 191 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: someone who has trained. So here's how it works. You 192 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: fill out the application, and according to the Fox six guy, 193 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: in fifteen minutes, the thing comes back and it's a letter, 194 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: and it's got your name out it and says we've 195 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 2: determined that so and so is in need of an 196 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: emotional support animal. It goes out and on, and they 197 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: have a sample letter here. The guy from Florida, who 198 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: I said is trying to whistle blow on this, he applied, 199 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: and he said when he applied, he put in the 200 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 2: most ridiculous responses you could imagine, just to see whether 201 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 2: or not you could put in ridiculous responses and still 202 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 2: get the certification. And he did, and he provided the 203 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 2: letter to Fox six, and Fox six has it on 204 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 2: its website. So here's a guy who is I'm no 205 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 2: need at all of an emotional sport animal. In fact, 206 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: I did this training myself. I just filled out a 207 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: bunch of crap to see what would happen, and he 208 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: said right away, I got it back. And it comes 209 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: back from here's the key to the story, a licensed 210 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: psychologist in Wisconsin. Remember this guy, Chris Sass owns the company. 211 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: He's not a license to anything. But the letter comes 212 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 2: back from a psychologist her and she identifies herself as 213 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: a clinical psychologist, and she's got her license at her 214 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: letter head. Her name is Laurie Gebhard. I'm going to 215 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 2: read the letter that she wrote and wrote and sent 216 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 2: to the guy from Florida who's whistleblowing, to whom I 217 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: make it certain. I have evaluated Chas Stevens. That's a whistleblower, 218 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: and his response is to the psychosocial and behavior self assessment, 219 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: and I find that Chazz meets the clinical criteria for 220 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: a mental or emotional disability recognized in the Diagnostic and 221 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. So she's saying she's diagnosed 222 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: him based on his response, and he has a disorder. 223 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: I don't know if any disorder at all. I put this 224 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 2: put in crap in the online thing. Due to this 225 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 2: emotional and mental disability, Chazz has certain limitations related to 226 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: social interactions, coping with stress and anxiety, and engaging in 227 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: activities of daily living, which are indicative of functional impairments 228 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: caused by Chaz's emotional mental disability. No, you may be 229 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: wondering how she could crank this out in fifteen minutes. 230 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 2: If you think like a scammer, you know how she 231 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 2: can crank this out in fifteen minutes. If you're some 232 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: goof like Paul who can't think like a scammer, you 233 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: would have no idea how she could crank this out 234 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: and fill this back with his thing and all of 235 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: that in fifteen minutes. No, not Ai. She sends the 236 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: same letter to everybody who applies. All she has to 237 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: do is punch in the name and then they kick 238 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: it back. So there's not what's what what do you 239 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: call that thing? No, yeah, but there's a term for something. 240 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: She's got a template and all she does is she 241 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: drops the name into the template. And we know this 242 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 2: because numerous somebody else applied and they got all of 243 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 2: these letters. So she goes on and she cites all 244 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: these things that she's diagnosed, and she's a psychologist. So 245 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: let's start with this. There's way more to the story 246 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: than I'll get into it in a month. Let's start 247 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: with this. So even when you build in this protection, 248 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: well you have to be diagnosed by a counselor. It's 249 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: the same thing that led you all of the opioid dependency. 250 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: I've told the story a few times. Most people believe 251 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: that it started in Kentucky because Kentucky was just the 252 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: hotbed of it, where these pain clinics would open in 253 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: trailers in the middle of the woods. There was always 254 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: somebody who was a doctor and usually a nurse that 255 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: was running him. I'll give you another area where you 256 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: can get somebody who claims, say, what do you think 257 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: it a clinic? Is? All it is is a quack 258 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: gynecologist who couldn't get any legitimate work doing regular gynecology, 259 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: who decides to go on into abortions. Well, I couldn't 260 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 2: actually get any money delivering babies, so I decided to 261 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 2: kill him. Some doctor who and by the way, to prescribe, 262 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 2: prescribe medication, you don't even generally have to be somebody 263 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 2: who's certified in a particular field. So these clinics would 264 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 2: open up and everybody who said that they had pain 265 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 2: were getting the opioids, and they we're getting a lot 266 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 2: of them, and a lot of them, a lot of them. 267 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: The word would spread word amouth, and the next thing 268 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 2: you know, this is spreading all over the country. So 269 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 2: just the notion that there's going to be an expert 270 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 2: that's going to do something, it may be a protection, 271 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: but it's not a protection if the expert is willing 272 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: to say whatever the client wants. Now, let's start with this. 273 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 2: We do know that there are online pharmacies and you 274 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 2: see them advertised on TV in which you can get 275 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 2: like the sex pills and all of it. And they 276 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 2: always say that they do a consultation. Now I've never 277 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: applied for one of these, but some of them they 278 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: may have an actual consultation in which you do talk 279 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 2: over the phone or FaceTime with a doctor and say, okay, 280 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 2: I have this sexual problem, this, that and the other thing. Now, 281 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: I don't think that that's much of a diagnosis because 282 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:22,239 Speaker 2: anybody can lie, but it's a way of doing it. 283 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: In this instance, according to the Fox six report, this 284 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: psychologist who's sending the letters out for Chris Sass's company. 285 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 2: Her name is Lori Gebbard. Isn't doing any actual discussion 286 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 2: at all. All she's doing is looking at the questionnaire. 287 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: And the questionnaire, as I say, is what according to 288 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: the guy in Florida, you can fill out any answer 289 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 2: that you want because they're rubber stamping and approving everybody. 290 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 2: So Fox six goes and talks to the guy that 291 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: runs the thing, Chris Sas I remember he runs it, 292 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: and the psychologist he's using his Lori Gebbart, and she said, 293 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 2: do you approve over ninety eight They ask do you 294 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 2: prove prove everybody that'll play? Oh no, no, no, no, 295 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 2: but your thing says over ninety nine percent. Then he 296 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 2: asks him the law that was the amended rule that 297 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 2: was put up at the Trump administation in twenty twenty says, 298 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: there has to be an expert and the expert has 299 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: to have a relationship with the patient. That's the term. 300 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 2: And again we put that in as a safeguard. You 301 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: have to have a relationship with the patient. So Brian 302 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 2: will see a five to six. Ask this guy says, well, 303 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 2: this filling out a questionnaire, does that mean a relationship. 304 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's a relationship. That is a relationship. He 305 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 2: filled out the thing and she read it. That's a relationship. 306 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 2: Now some of you may be wondering why, by the way, 307 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 2: the fee is fifty bucks. That's another tip off here 308 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: that you're not getting any kind of in depth psych 309 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 2: Imagine being able to be diagnosed as having an emotion 310 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: and mental disability for fifty bucks. You know, there was 311 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: a time in our world before victimization became a cash register, 312 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 2: that most people would not want to be diagnosed as 313 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 2: having a mental or an emotional disability. But now there's 314 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 2: all sorts of money in it. Fifty bucks is all 315 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: it takes for somebody to diagnose somebody from out of 316 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: state as having an emotional disability, and of course that 317 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: emotionally mental disability means that they get to have a 318 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:28,719 Speaker 2: dog and then can live wherever it is that they 319 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 2: want to live, including the no pencil out. There's a 320 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 2: million other versions of the scamming of the emotional support animal, 321 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: get them on a plane and all this. We're just 322 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 2: focusing on the one here. And again it all starts 323 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 2: because of a government program aimed at addressing people who 324 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: have actual need, but it becomes an opportunity for people 325 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 2: to make a buck by providing the certification that you 326 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: have that need. And the way that you can make 327 00:20:55,040 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 2: a lot of bucks is you approve everybody's application. Now, honest, 328 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 2: well meaning person goes and sees their doctor, and their 329 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 2: doctor refers him to a psychologist or a psychiatrist, and 330 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 2: you go through in depth analysis what your problems are. 331 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 2: Can it be treated by meds? Can you do it 332 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 2: through talk therapy? Can you come up with better's coping skills? 333 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: And so on? And maybe it's so desperate, idiot an animal. 334 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 2: That's a legitimate way of pursuing this, But that's a 335 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 2: lot of time for the professional to be involved, and 336 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: so on. This guy wants to if people want to 337 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 2: be able to go to churn churn, churn, churn, churn. 338 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 2: Now you may wonder what's in it? Remember doctor here, 339 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 2: this psychologist, Lori Gebbard, she's not listed as the owner 340 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 2: of the place. Chris sass is what's in it for her? 341 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 2: This gets really good. Now again the naive among you 342 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 2: who do not think like scammers, that's you again. Well, well, 343 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 2: but again it's only fifty bucks and she doesn't own 344 00:21:55,920 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 2: the company. Who do you think Chris Sass's girlfriend is 345 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 2: Laurie Gebhart. The faxics reporter must have found this out, 346 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: or maybe he ran a background check because he found 347 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 2: that Laurie Gebhart's office has the same address as the 348 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: Elmgrove business that Chris Sass is running. This sending out 349 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 2: the certification thing. So Sas sets up the company to 350 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 2: churn out the form letters and his girlfriend simply writes 351 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 2: the form letter. Does she actually read the questionnaire? Maybe 352 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 2: she's Somebody has to read something to pull the person's 353 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: name off of it and send it back. Somebody does 354 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: the processing of the fifty dollars over the credit card, 355 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: and voila, you send it out. Oh there's more in here. 356 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 2: I ran the backgrounds of both of them. Men as 357 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 2: they say, this guy Chris Sass, he's working at what's 358 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 2: is it? East Castle? Which no, what did I say 359 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: a minute ago that he it's a residential specialist. That's 360 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 2: somewhere I want to get that here. Newcastle. He's a 361 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 2: Newcastle that's his day job. This is a side gig, 362 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: and I'm guessing he doesn't have to spend a lot 363 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 2: of time at it because the thing, you know, once 364 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: people hit the website, they fill out the thing, and 365 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 2: the psychologist kicks the thing back in fifteen minutes. It's 366 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: a pretty fast way to make a buck the thing. 367 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: The only thing working against him is apparently there's zillions 368 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 2: of companies on the internet that are doing the same thing, 369 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 2: which is why you've got so many people that are 370 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: living in no Pets Allowed buildings claiming you got to 371 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 2: allow my pet because I have the emotional support thing, 372 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 2: because it only costs you fifty bucks to get it. 373 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 2: If you're able to find somebody that's got some credential 374 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: after their name, they'll fill this out because that person 375 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 2: clearly doesn't do any kind of actual evaluation. I find 376 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: out that Chris Sass recently got his third offense OWI, 377 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 2: so apparently maybe he needs to have an emotional support 378 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 2: animals so he stops drinking and driving. As for this 379 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,719 Speaker 2: Lori Gebert, she's been around for a while. Are they 380 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 2: splitting the fifty bucks or are they're in a romantic relationship. 381 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 2: It all goes into the same pocket. I don't know 382 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: what I do suggest, however, is Wisconsin we have a 383 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 2: board that reviews the credential of professionals. There is one 384 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 2: for psychiatrists. This woman's a psychologist. There is a board 385 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 2: that oversees psychologists in the state of Wisconsin, and I 386 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: mentioned that the guy from Florida, the whistleblower on this 387 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: who's trying to clean up this field that he's in, 388 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: he said a complaint to the state Board of Psychologists 389 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 2: about the behavior of Lori Gebhart, this psychologist. I would hope. 390 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: See the problem with a lot of these boards that 391 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 2: oversee these is they don't do any regulating whatsoever. Hardly 392 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 2: anybody loses their license for anything in the state of Wisconsin. 393 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 2: Is this quackery. It depends on how you define quackery. Now, 394 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 2: let's imagine I was going through here's something impossible to imagine. 395 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 2: Imagine I was having mental health issues. I know, you 396 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 2: just could never imagine that somebody is sane and calm 397 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 2: and clear thinking as me could have mental health issues. 398 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: But imagine I did. Imagine I was stressed over any 399 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 2: number of things. It's an important field. The idea that 400 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 2: I could get any kind of help for anything by 401 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: filling out some stupid questionnaire and have something cranked back 402 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 2: at fifteen minutes is absurd. There's no diagnosis going on here. 403 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 2: It's somebody that's using their name to crank something out 404 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 2: so that people can scam the law and bring a 405 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: dog somewhere or a chicken or whatever the emotional support 406 00:25:53,080 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 2: animal is that otherwise would not be allowed. So we'll 407 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 2: see whether or not they do anything to Lori Gebhart's license. 408 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 2: You're gonna rationalize anything. How could a PhD? You know, well, 409 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: I want to make my boyfriend happy, so I'll crank 410 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: these things out. Or it's an easy way to make 411 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 2: money because I don't have an otherwise enough business. Or 412 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: everybody would benefit from anilet's like, probably lots of people 413 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 2: would benefit from an animal, But in many cases it's 414 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 2: not because they have a mental instability. It's just that 415 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 2: animals make you feel better. There is a difference. This 416 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: whole notion was creating for the purposes of people that 417 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 2: are so stressed out and so much anxiety that they 418 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 2: can't get through life. Now, I admit, and we're going 419 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 2: to do a podcast, I hope later in the week 420 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 2: in which I'm going to address a little bit of this. 421 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 2: We have way more anxiety and stress than we've ever had. 422 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: We are filled with people in our world who can't 423 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 2: cope with any I mean, you just watch these cop 424 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 2: videos on YouTube. Every female that's pulled over says I 425 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 2: have stressed anxiety, every single one of them. I have 426 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 2: stress and anxiety. I can't give it a diferences. He 427 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 2: can't go I am stressed in anxiety. I have stressed anxiety. 428 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 2: Do we have an increase in stress and anxiety or 429 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 2: do we merely have a bunch of people that are 430 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: such sissies that they crank out stress and anxiety every 431 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 2: time that they're in a stressful situation. Stress is something 432 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 2: that hits everyone. They're stressful situations, you feel anxious. But 433 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 2: when it becomes a disorder, are there people who simply 434 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: can't cope or it just becomes a crutch for a 435 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: bunch of sissies and babies who can't walk their way 436 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: through lives. My own belief is that there is an 437 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 2: increase in stress and anxiety, and I think that it 438 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: comes from all these pills we start giving children at 439 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 2: a young age, and that's going to be a segment 440 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 2: that I hope to do later out of the week. 441 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 2: But whether I'm right about that or wrong about it, 442 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 2: we start with the problem and you end up with 443 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 2: a bunch of people putting little wraps around their animals 444 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 2: and claiming that their emotion of one of the animal 445 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 2: isn't anything. By the way, the animal's never been trained 446 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: to do any of this stuff. But most of all, 447 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 2: it's a way for the property rights and the business 448 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: rights and businesses the same. You can't have an animal 449 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 2: in here to have to exempt it because there's people 450 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 2: that are running around with all of these certifications that 451 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: they're getting. What this reminds me of is it reminds 452 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: you a lot of things. All these people that perform 453 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 2: marriage is because they get a license to be a 454 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 2: minister from some online thing. They're not a minister the 455 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 2: Church of the Universe, so so forth and so on, 456 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 2: and you can perform a marriage. Now, I don't think 457 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,479 Speaker 2: you need to have a credential to perform a marriage, 458 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 2: because we've gone past this idea that the person who's 459 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 2: ma marrior of the judge, municipal judge, or the priest 460 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 2: or the rabbi, the person that's performing the marriage is 461 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 2: counseling and somebody go, Okay, fine, we want to get married. 462 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 2: Do you need to have to go through someone to 463 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 2: get in order to get married? Probably not, But we 464 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 2: still require that somebody has got a license in order 465 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: to do so, they go and apply for it. The 466 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: difference here is this woman actually is a PhD. And 467 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 2: we did put in the sing of the law that 468 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 2: you're supposed to have to be an expert and that 469 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: there has to be a relationship between them. But the 470 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 2: fact that you put that in there isn't going to 471 00:28:55,120 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: stop some people like this goofy guy say yes and 472 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,479 Speaker 2: his girlfriend from churning these things out on the internet. Anyway. 473 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: I'm always ripping on the media this is and put 474 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: out that. There's just a million stories the media could 475 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: do and you never see him do it. And this 476 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: is one of them. And it's a good one that 477 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: they They probably fell on the laft, They probably got 478 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 2: a tip off on it. But many of the things 479 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: I get as a tip as well. And there's this 480 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: guy in Florida who was actually probably deeply diagnosing people 481 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 2: and was like an innovator and using emotional support animentals 482 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: for the handful of people that need it. And now 483 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 2: he sees all these people ripping it off and just 484 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: going on online and saying this, that and the other thing. 485 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: It's there's a million things that all the states that 486 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 2: have legalized medical marijuana, there's always a doctor that's gonna 487 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 2: say you medical marijuana would benefit you in that's a 488 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: one minute consultation or online and the whole thing. So 489 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: whenever you say that you need a certification for something, 490 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 2: there's never going to be a shortage of dishonest people 491 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 2: who will go into that field and not do an 492 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: honest evaluation but crank him out like crazy. I said, 493 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 2: uh a couple of years ago. Data. She wasn't a psychologist, 494 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 2: she was a psychotherapist. And what they've talked about is 495 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 2: just the number of people who go into these fields, 496 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 2: including with credential beyond hers, that are not they're not 497 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 2: in it to help people. They're just in it to 498 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 2: make a buck, and they do this kind of sham operation. 499 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 2: Or it's the same thing that will happen when say 500 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 2: somebody's involved in a maybe an automobile accident, that there 501 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: are certain people in the medical fields who'll just write 502 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 2: a letter claiming that you were all banged up. They 503 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: won't even do an X ray or something or another, 504 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 2: whereas most legitimate medical professionals they're actually going to diagnose 505 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 2: you and try to determine whether or not you've got 506 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: a problem off of it or not. He keeps he's 507 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 2: trying to now turn a soprano's into everything Doctor Melphie 508 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 2: and Tony Soprano. I don't know if you would have 509 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 2: liked liked the zoom calls. That's a little I mentioned. 510 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: There's a yet another documentary. It's really good that I found. 511 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: I watched part one on the planet. I watched part two. 512 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 2: I can't remember the name. It's David Chase and the sopranos. 513 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: I found what it's on. It's on HBO Max, which 514 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 2: is a streaming service. So if you don't have HBO Max, 515 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: I don't think that you can see it. But then 516 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 2: I saw segment one was just about the first season, 517 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 2: and the segment two was all their amanders of the 518 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 2: season and they got into the relationship with the doctor 519 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 2: milfied and it was, you know, the conclusion of courses 520 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,959 Speaker 2: is like everybody else, he had mother issues and that 521 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: that's what she represented. Anyway, that story, let me turn 522 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 2: my attention now two talking in my mind, this is 523 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: related to scammers. It's a stretch. So I'll simply present 524 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 2: the story right now. If you're a Democrat in this country. 525 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 2: Your primary qualification for acceptance, it's to simplay bash ice. 526 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 2: It's the ultimate unifier in that part. Find a lefty 527 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: in this country and the ripping ice. They've got the 528 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 2: signs up everywhere. It's the one issue in which they're 529 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 2: just blombing on to his ice. And here's the thing, 530 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 2: it doesn't even matter if you're telling the truth about ice. 531 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 2: All you have to do is indicate you're on the 532 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 2: right side. Remember Rico Camacho. Rico Camacho is the Wauka 533 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 2: Shaw alderman who was also a school teacher at Catholic 534 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 2: Memorial who made an online post that there was an 535 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 2: ice operation going on in downtown Waukeshaw. There wasn't. The 536 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 2: guy was so irresponsible and so abused his role as 537 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 2: a public official. I initially thought, well, he saw a 538 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,479 Speaker 2: bunch of people running around in uniforms and being an 539 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 2: idiot that he assumed it was ice. It was even 540 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 2: worse than that. Somebody else saw it and told him 541 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 2: and he posted this. Well, he lost his job at 542 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 2: Waukashaw Catholic Memorial in part because they haven't said why, 543 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 2: but clearly it's a violation of their social media policy 544 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 2: to go online and post things that aren't true, so 545 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 2: you would think that beyond that that this would damage him. 546 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: You don't understand leftist politics. Comacho is trying to milk this, 547 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 2: In other words, milk his lie. Rico Camacho has just 548 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 2: declared his candidacy for the state Legislature, which is a 549 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 2: way better job than Waukashaw Alderman. The city of Waka 550 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 2: Shaw itself is the one part of Waka Shaw in 551 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,719 Speaker 2: which the Democrats think they have a chance to win 552 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 2: a legislative seat. There are a couple of districts that 553 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 2: overlap Brookfield and Wawatasa, they can win those, but this 554 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: is a standalone district. But it's right in the center 555 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 2: of the city of Waukashaw, which has a large Latino 556 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 2: area working class and so it's Republican, but it's not 557 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: as overwhelmingly Republican as say Menominee Falls or Economy Walk 558 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 2: and Wales and areas like that are. It's the seat 559 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 2: that is represented by Scott Allen. Scott Allen is running 560 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 2: for mayor of Waukashaw, so there's going to be an 561 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 2: open seat there. Rico Camacho was running for the State Assembly, 562 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 2: so here's a guy in his whole advertisement in which 563 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 2: the whole message is gonna say, if there are other 564 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 2: Democrats that run for the seat is I'm so against 565 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 2: Ice and I was willing to go on social media 566 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 2: and lie about Ice. From the perspective of the Democrats, 567 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 2: that's a good thing. You see their whole m O 568 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 2: Russia collusion and everything else. They aren't shamed by the 569 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 2: fact that they're making this stuff up. If anything, they 570 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 2: want to praise the person. You had the guts to 571 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 2: lie to try to bring down Trump, never mind messing 572 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 2: around with the truth. You took a risk by lying. 573 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 2: And now the Morgan Geyser story, I think the point 574 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 2: has been missed. She's one of the two slender Man 575 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 2: stabbers and the one who is treated more seriously. Morgan 576 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 2: Geyser has been in a Wisconsin state institution for about 577 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 2: ten years. Ever since a little longer than that, Ever since, 578 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,760 Speaker 2: she and a friend developed in their goofed up heads 579 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 2: that slender Man, a fictional character, was real, and they 580 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 2: came up with this idea that slender Man wanted them 581 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 2: to stab to death one of their fellow another girl 582 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 2: who went to school with them. They were both tried 583 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 2: as adults, which was a good thing because if they 584 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 2: weren't tried as adults, we can only rat slap their wrist. 585 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 2: And they were both sentenced to time in a mental institution. 586 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 2: Geyser since turned eighteen, turned twenty one, so on, and 587 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 2: she has continued to petition for her release, and they're 588 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 2: obviously are concerns that she's not well yet because she 589 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 2: was the and I deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, denied. 590 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 2: Finally Wakshaw County Circuit Judge Scott Wagner, who is in 591 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 2: a brief time on the bench. He only got out 592 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 2: of the bench earlier this year. He ran for election 593 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 2: unopposed and had the support of Conservatives. He's advertising himself 594 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 2: as potentially a disaster now again. When he screwed up 595 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 2: a case a few weeks ago, I said it may 596 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 2: be too early to make a firm decision. Anybody can 597 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 2: screw one or two things up. But it was Scott 598 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:39,919 Speaker 2: Wagner who greenlighted the release plan for Morgan Geyser. As 599 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 2: you may have learned, she busted out. She's since been caught, 600 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 2: but she busted out of the treatment facility that she 601 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 2: was at she's on electronic monitoring, and she cut the 602 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 2: bracelet off, disappeared. They found her in Illinois. There are 603 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 2: zillions of questions that come here. First of all, her 604 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 2: treatment center was initially never disclosed because it was sealed 605 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 2: in the court order. The family of the girl, no 606 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 2: young woman that was stabbed, adamantly opposed the release allowing 607 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 2: guiys that to have be released anywhere near in Wakeshaw. Obviously, 608 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,959 Speaker 2: they're concerned that she's going to try to do it again, 609 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 2: if she's still somebody who thinks slender Man is real 610 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 2: and so odd. So they sent her to a treatment facility. 611 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 2: It's a glorified halfway house in Madison. She walked away 612 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 2: from the facility the tail end of last week cut 613 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 2: off the bracelet. According to news reports, it took ten 614 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 2: hours before the facility notified the authorities. Now, let's start 615 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:51,760 Speaker 2: with this. Did Wagner issue an order on this release 616 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 2: plan that would mandate that if she walked away or 617 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 2: cut the bracelet, there has to be immediate notification. People 618 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 2: always go out of this saying, well, they're on a bracelet, 619 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 2: throw on a break thrown a bracelet. It's such a 620 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 2: false sense of security. Off of it. Who's monitoring the bracelet? 621 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 2: So imagine I put Paul on the bracelet. What good 622 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 2: is that going to do? If I'm not chee, if 623 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,439 Speaker 2: I don't have something that buzzes the instant he cuts 624 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 2: off of his bracelet. Geyser was eventually apprehended in Illinois. 625 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 2: The question now will be whether or not they revoke 626 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 2: her release. I think they better. Now you have a 627 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 2: situation here of somebody when they were a child treated 628 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 2: as adult, but a child did something completely delusional, and 629 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 2: your no shit is that they're going to grow out 630 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 2: of it. But you come up with a plan here 631 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 2: in which she finally gets her freedom, and she's only 632 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:52,359 Speaker 2: been out for a few months, and they set up 633 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 2: I don't think very restrictive rules. I mean you could say, well, 634 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,879 Speaker 2: having to wear a bracelet and having to stay near 635 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 2: your facility and so on is pretty restrictive, except she 636 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 2: was in an institution. For her, this is out and 637 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 2: not freedom. According to the reports on the case, she 638 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,839 Speaker 2: connected with an adult it's unclear if it's a male 639 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 2: or a female, and apparently wanted to run off with 640 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 2: that adult and left the state. As I say, she 641 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 2: was apprehended in Illinois. But there are other parts of 642 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 2: this story. In news reports earlier this year, it was 643 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 2: reported that Geyser now considers herself to be a he. 644 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 2: Apparently she's moved back to a she because the references 645 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 2: now arta she again, she's one of those names Morgan, 646 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 2: So it could be either way. But she's got her 647 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 2: hair cut short, and she certainly would appear as somebody 648 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 2: that could pass either as a male or a female, 649 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 2: which begs this question that nobody ever answered, nobody ever asked, 650 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 2: but I'm asking it. What kind of help did she 651 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 2: get in the Wisconsin Mental Health Institution? How is it 652 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 2: that they had her all these years and she's still 653 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 2: not right? Or is it that you got a bunch 654 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 2: of lefty shrinks that work these places and instead of 655 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 2: talking people out of their delusions, reinforce them, including gender. 656 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 2: The whole problem with gender as we used to when 657 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 2: somebody I'm just I've decided I'm a man, is you 658 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 2: tell no, you're not. If you're a man, you'd have 659 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 2: a gladingis down there you don't, or vice versa. Instead 660 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 2: we reinforce this. What kind of treatment was she getting? 661 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 2: What she told? There is no slender man conformed grow 662 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 2: up and become a productive member of society, or where 663 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 2: all of her weirdnesses and eccentricities reinforced. In other words, 664 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 2: she's not getting any help at all. From the perspective 665 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,280 Speaker 2: of the public, we have a right to be protected 666 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 2: from somebody who might stab you to death thinking that 667 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 2: you're thinking that slender Man wants you to do it. 668 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 2: And her inability to conform to the most basic thing, 669 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 2: keep the bracelet on, don't leave the state, stay near 670 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,399 Speaker 2: your facility. Wouldn't a kid. She's not gonna follow any 671 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 2: other rules either. My indictment is of the Winnebago Mental 672 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 2: Health Institute, which is the big state facility in Oshkosh 673 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 2: that oversaw her treatment. It seems to me that she's 674 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,919 Speaker 2: just as screwed up as she was when she thought 675 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 2: that slender Man wanted her to kill a classmate. So 676 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:38,720 Speaker 2: what have they done for her? I don't know. Maybe 677 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 2: the UH mail Order Emotional Supports psychologist is on the 678 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 2: payroll out there. Maybe she's the one in charge of 679 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 2: the treatment. Maybe she's sent to Chris Sassi's thing and 680 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 2: for fifty dollars to see center order things, saying she 681 00:41:52,080 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 2: can be released and go out to society. It's semi related. 682 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,280 Speaker 2: But one of the points that I've made with regard 683 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 2: to you, I'm always skeptical when judges rule that somebody 684 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 2: is not guilty of a crime because of mental defect. 685 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 2: Now in Wisconsin, that doesn't mean that they walk free. 686 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 2: They are instead sentenced to a mental is the sentence 687 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 2: to what's called mental I don't have the term in 688 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:35,240 Speaker 2: front of me. I don't think it's confinement rather than prison. 689 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 2: The problem is is that what they are sentenced to 690 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 2: often does not mean institutionalization. I think control, whatever the 691 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 2: word is. The shrinks involved in this, they have a 692 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 2: vested interest in being able to pat themselves in the 693 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 2: back and say that they fix someone. So nine months 694 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 2: after the person did something heinous, they're out on the street. 695 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 2: Be Oh, they're not dangerous anymore. They're popping their anti 696 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 2: crazy pills. Don't worry about them. You'll see these news there. 697 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 2: The only question is whether or not he will spend 698 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 2: the rest of his life in prison or on a 699 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 2: metal facility. That's not the question. Just because you're confined. 700 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 2: I think confinement is the term, but confined does it 701 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,919 Speaker 2: mean locked up? Confinement can mean living home or living 702 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 2: in an outpatient facility, so forth and so on. There's 703 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 2: not any type of scrutiny into the decisions that are 704 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 2: made by people who work in government in mental health evaluation. 705 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,720 Speaker 2: And as I say, with regard to the whole areas 706 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 2: of psychology and psychiatry, people make the mistake of condemning 707 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 2: the field altogether. It's the same as that. It's the 708 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 2: same as talk show hosts. There are good ones and 709 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 2: bad ones. It's the same as podcasters. There are a 710 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 2: few good ones like me, and a bunch of terrible ones. 711 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 2: There are quarterbacks. There's some very good quarterbacks, and then 712 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 2: there's j. J. McCarthy. By the way, I called that 713 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 2: he is the worst quarterback in the NFL. The Vike. 714 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 2: What the Vikings have done is commit the terrible mistake 715 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 2: of rationalizing their number one pick. He realized they got 716 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 2: rid of two very good quarterbacks in order to make 717 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 2: way for him, Sam Darnold and before that Kirk Cousins. 718 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 2: And that's simply well, we don't want to admit that 719 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 2: we botched the pick. Packers have botch picks. Who is 720 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,879 Speaker 2: the not Jordan Morgan, the other offensive lineman first round 721 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,919 Speaker 2: pick that was a bus three or four years ago. 722 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 2: Wasn't Morgan, it was the guy before that. Anyway, he 723 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 2: never started, He's gone. They didn't put him out there 724 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 2: and have the team suffer in his in his inability 725 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 2: to play. If you can't earn your way out of 726 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 2: the playing field, you just acknowledge that you made a mistake, 727 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 2: but you don't compound the mistake by throwing the guy 728 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 2: out there. Well, I don't know the these people made 729 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 2: Tony man Tony Maners played twelve years in the NFL. 730 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 2: He just wasn't a first round pick. I'm talking about 731 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 2: guys who shouldn't even play. Tony man Rich also spent 732 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 2: very little time with the Packers. He was he's been 733 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 2: like six seven years. I think with the Lions that 734 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 2: those aren't even close. I'm trying to think of. I mean, 735 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 2: he was so forgettable. I think the guy played at Mississippi. 736 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 2: Maybe offensive line picked number one like four years ago. Yeah, anyway, 737 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:33,320 Speaker 2: you see it in the NBA as well. Johnny Davis 738 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 2: of Wisconsin was picked by the Wizards. He's in the 739 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 2: G League. Now. You can't hang on to these players 740 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 2: simply because you're drafted the number one. If you can, 741 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 2: if it turns out that you made a terrible mistake, 742 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 2: that the guy isn't working at his craft or he'd 743 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 2: rather you know, he's you know, just a bus You 744 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 2: have misevaluated his potential, or maybe gets injury. So the 745 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 2: point I was making with regard to psychiatry and psychology, Oh, psychia, 746 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 2: it's a racket. No, it's not, but many people in 747 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:12,800 Speaker 2: it are a racket. I think in general, the better 748 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 2: you are at something, the likelier you are to do 749 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,280 Speaker 2: it on the up and up. Not always, but in general. 750 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 2: Let's imagine your a truly great person in helping out others, 751 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,280 Speaker 2: and you're in the field of psychiatry or psychology or psychotherapy. 752 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 2: If you really, really are good, word of mouth is 753 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 2: gonna spread. This person really help me, and they'll do 754 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 2: it on the up and up. It's when you're not 755 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,319 Speaker 2: any good and you can't get any business. The next thing, 756 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 2: you know, you look at it a questionaion saying, yeah, 757 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 2: this person's completely off the rocker en. They'll be better 758 00:46:46,680 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 2: if they get to have a support. Duck. It's time 759 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 2: for me to take a break here. Speaking of pieces 760 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 2: of work, Marjorie Taylor Green now has quit the Congress altogether. 761 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 2: Clearly she's up to something, right, what for what? Say 762 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 2: you don't you don't know? You admit you don't know, 763 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 2: Admit you don't know. See I know, I know. I 764 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 2: wouldn't be saying I know unless I thought I knew, 765 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 2: which is why I'm the brilliant podcast through over here. 766 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 2: We'll talk about that in a moment. This is the 767 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 2: Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark Belling podcast. This 768 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 2: just happened so fast. Marjorie Taylor Green was almost appendage 769 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:56,400 Speaker 2: to President Trump campaign rallies, the inauguration. She was always 770 00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 2: near his side, then got on the outs for a bit. 771 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 2: Then the President calls her a trader. She fires something 772 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:15,879 Speaker 2: back and no, she's not even in the Congress at all. Now, 773 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 2: the falling out I analyzed last week and I think 774 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 2: it's pretty easy to understand. And I use the term 775 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green. Didn't know her place Marjorie Taylor Green, 776 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 2: and you can get up. She's hanging around near the president, 777 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 2: she's famous and all of this stuff. She thinks she 778 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 2: can be a leader of the Republican Party in the 779 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 2: United States. She's thinking she can be a United States Senator, 780 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 2: when the reality is is that she probably will always 781 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,320 Speaker 2: be somebody who can win election from a very conservative district. 782 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,240 Speaker 2: Her district is in suburban Atlanta. The city of Atlanta's 783 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,520 Speaker 2: unbelievably liberal. Some of the suburbs outside of Atlanta are 784 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,360 Speaker 2: very conservative. That's what she's She's Rome Georgia. She represents 785 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 2: an area that's kind of appending extended suburbs of Atlanta 786 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,760 Speaker 2: and down there. They like the fact that she's feisty, 787 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 2: and they're overlooking some of her wacko ideas about the 788 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,320 Speaker 2: rothschild sending lasers from space which started the wildfires, and 789 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 2: a bunch of other crackpot things that she threw out 790 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 2: because she was gutsy and stood up for Trump. And 791 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 2: they liked the fact that she's on a bat she's 792 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 2: wearing the red, white, and blue end she's shouting. You know, 793 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 2: AOC will trying to shout down Trump and she'll shout 794 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,840 Speaker 2: her right back down. She's got a distinct likes that. 795 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,839 Speaker 2: But in the meantime, it's pretty clear that there are a 796 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 2: whole lot of mainstream Republicans are rerounized. Okay, she's pretty 797 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:34,839 Speaker 2: nice in this robe, but well, you can't give her 798 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:39,239 Speaker 2: anything important. So she wanted to run for the Senate, 799 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 2: and Trump said, I'm not going to support you for 800 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 2: the Senate. You can stay in your House seat. She 801 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,719 Speaker 2: had is to fit over this, and she doesn't think 802 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 2: she That's how I think this all started. And therefore 803 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,360 Speaker 2: she started looking for areas to oppose Trump. But she 804 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,800 Speaker 2: started saying Trump spending too much time on foreign policy. 805 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,800 Speaker 2: By the way, this notion that's Trump fitting Trump. Trump 806 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 2: is a guy who is able to take his daily 807 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 2: time and have it add up beyond one hundred percent. 808 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 2: Trump spends a lot of time on foreign policy. He 809 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,320 Speaker 2: spends a lot of time domestic policy. He spends a 810 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 2: lot of time analyzing NFL quarterbacks. He spends a lot 811 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 2: of time on everything. The guy's unbelievable. He's like the 812 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 2: anti Tony Evers. Tony Evers adds up the time he's 813 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,800 Speaker 2: allotted into his day, and instead of adding up to 814 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 2: one hundred percent of time, it adds up to like 815 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:28,320 Speaker 2: nine percent. He didn't do anything all day. But anyway, 816 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 2: she took that shot. So Trump fired back, and now 817 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 2: she quits the Congress. Now here's the thing that I 818 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 2: want to analyze. Why would you quit the House? She 819 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,920 Speaker 2: can be on the outs of Trump and still be 820 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 2: in the house. Why did she do that? Now? As 821 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,200 Speaker 2: you know, I wouldn't be asking this if I didn't 822 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:56,400 Speaker 2: have a theory. One of the things that afflicts people 823 00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 2: that go into politics is their ego. Many of them 824 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 2: put themselves above the cause, all sides, left, right, and 825 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 2: so on. They're driven by ego and power, and they 826 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,799 Speaker 2: don't care so much about the issue per se as 827 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 2: they do about getting ahead. Most people don't run for office, 828 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 2: don't have those issues. You wonder, well, you know, I just, 829 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 2: for example, I think that the pissing match that's going 830 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 2: on right now between say Tucker Carlson and Mark Levin 831 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 2: is as much about ego as it is anything else. 832 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,279 Speaker 2: They've got one issue that they disagree on, and that 833 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 2: has to do with Israel, and they're turning it into 834 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,280 Speaker 2: this blood feud. And I just think it's because who's 835 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 2: the bigger deal is all that's driving the two of them, 836 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 2: rather than Okay, we have this one difference, you don't 837 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 2: have to turn it into World War ninety six. I 838 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,279 Speaker 2: think Marjorie Taylor Green wants to run for president. She's saying, Okay, fine, Trump, 839 00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,879 Speaker 2: you don't want to let me be a senator, I'll 840 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,160 Speaker 2: just run for president. Now. I think Trump sized things 841 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,760 Speaker 2: up with regard to her. Remember George as a swing state, 842 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 2: it's really close to dead. Even there were the seven 843 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,879 Speaker 2: swing states, and the president's election, George is one of them. 844 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 2: In the next senatorial election, if she's the Republican nominee, 845 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 2: she's somebody that people in the middle can't stand. They 846 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,959 Speaker 2: think she's nuts. Republicans may love her, but the swing 847 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 2: voter city side elections in swing states don't. And Trump 848 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,400 Speaker 2: understands that. He understands that you've got to have somebody 849 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,239 Speaker 2: that can win a general election in Georgia. And he 850 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 2: thinks that she's so I mean, you'd be able to 851 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,399 Speaker 2: fundraise like crazy against her, And that's what he told her. 852 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 2: She didn't want to hear it, so she said, fine, okay, 853 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:44,040 Speaker 2: I won't. You can't stop me from running for president. 854 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,319 Speaker 2: And she size it up the potential Republican opponents and 855 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:52,440 Speaker 2: it's basically maybe Rubio, but probably not and JD Vance. 856 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 2: JD Vance has to align himself with Trump or Trump 857 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,319 Speaker 2: will exile him from the orbit. So Marjorie's thinking, I'll 858 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 2: be you off here. If I'm the anti Trump candidate. 859 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 2: JD has to be the pro Trump candidate. I can 860 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 2: make this one on what so what does that have 861 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 2: to do with her resigning from the House. A good question. 862 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 2: Let's imagine Marjorie stays in the House. In the House, basically, 863 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,840 Speaker 2: what you do is you vote and every one of 864 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 2: these issues that's coming up in front of the House. 865 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,319 Speaker 2: You remember, the Republicans have this tiny majority in the House. 866 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 2: They need everybody's vote. They can only have two or 867 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 2: three that wander off each time, and most of the 868 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,759 Speaker 2: issues the Republicans are all unified because it's either a 869 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,879 Speaker 2: really lefty position or the Republican position. If she keeps 870 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 2: voting with Trump on everything, she's not able to go 871 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 2: out there and take all of her shots on Trump. 872 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 2: By being out of the House, however, she can start 873 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,719 Speaker 2: a podcast and she can do the tour of the 874 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,840 Speaker 2: lefty media that she's been doing. She popped up on 875 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 2: the View, she's been on CNN, she's gonna be over 876 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,799 Speaker 2: an MSNBC, She's going to be every She'll probably try 877 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 2: to get herself into the Tucker Carlson orbit. She's going 878 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 2: to go into all of the places right now that 879 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,719 Speaker 2: are anti Trump, including those left of center and will 880 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,719 Speaker 2: Bass Trump it's hard for her to pull off this 881 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 2: batching Trump when she's voting with Trump on every vote 882 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 2: in the House, which she'd have to do. Secondly, she'd 883 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 2: really hack off a lot of Republicans if she started 884 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,919 Speaker 2: voting with the lefties on everything. So therefore she sees 885 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 2: they need to be out of there altogether, and now 886 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:29,839 Speaker 2: is untethered to nothing. She's tethered to nothing really other 887 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 2: than her own thing. I think the problem she will 888 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 2: face and trying to be the female version of Trump 889 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,640 Speaker 2: is I think she's not. I don't think Marjorie Taylor 890 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 2: Greena is stupid. I don't think that, but I don't 891 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 2: think she's anywhere near as smart as Trump. And some 892 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 2: of the ideas that she's thrown around indicates somebody that's 893 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 2: a little unhinged. And remember a lot of this was 894 00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 2: she was trying to get her attention for herself. She 895 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,239 Speaker 2: first ran for the Congress in eighteen. She came up 896 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,480 Speaker 2: with this thing. The California wildfires were started by the 897 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,319 Speaker 2: Rothschilds are a famous Jewish family, and she said that 898 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 2: they had a laser in space and it coached. And 899 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 2: then when she was called anti semitic over she said 900 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,799 Speaker 2: I didn't know the roth Childs were Jewish. I don't 901 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 2: know what's crazier not knowing that the roth Childs were Jewish, 902 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 2: or thinking that they are spending their time hiring lasers 903 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:36,359 Speaker 2: to set off wildfires in California. Here's a name for you. 904 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 2: It's been in the news. Sheila Sherphilus McCormick. She's the 905 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:49,400 Speaker 2: Democratic congresswoman from Florida. She's been indicted, and this doesn't 906 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 2: appear to be one of those cases of Trump getting 907 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:56,319 Speaker 2: back at people. There's been very little Democratic defense of her. 908 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,400 Speaker 2: They're simply trying to use her cast to try to 909 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,880 Speaker 2: go after other reput for a republic who didn't do 910 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 2: anything as bad. In her instance, she owns a company 911 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:11,920 Speaker 2: in Florida. She's accused of conspiring to steal five million 912 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 2: dollars from FEMA. Now, remember I alluded to this story 913 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,720 Speaker 2: earlier on when I was talking about the federal programs 914 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 2: with regard to emotional disabilities and emotional to support animals 915 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 2: and so on. FEMA is the agency that hands out 916 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:33,359 Speaker 2: disaster funds. And anybody who opposes FEMA, oh you're not. 917 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 2: You don't want to help people who have had been 918 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:40,080 Speaker 2: the victims of a disaster. People who are scammers eyeball, 919 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:44,240 Speaker 2: something like FEMA and the dollars signs are flying around 920 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:49,840 Speaker 2: to their heads. Now, obviously some federal programs are easier 921 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:57,880 Speaker 2: to scam than others. After Katrina, I mean the stories 922 00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 2: about the fraud that occurred after Katrina. You know, everything 923 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,239 Speaker 2: was torn down, There weren't enough contractors. All these chuck 924 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,120 Speaker 2: out of trucks drove themselves down to New Orleans after Katrina, 925 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,239 Speaker 2: and they did these repairs, and who knows what the 926 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:15,400 Speaker 2: actual repair actually costs, but they're submitting reimbursements into the many, 927 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,040 Speaker 2: many fortunes. And in many cases the building was never 928 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:19,680 Speaker 2: going to The building was just a dump and a 929 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 2: shack and it needs this out or the other thing. 930 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:29,760 Speaker 2: The company that Chapilas McCormick owned is a family business 931 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:36,720 Speaker 2: that's involved in healthcare. When COVID broke out, Remember there 932 00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 2: was that disaster declaration that Biden gave. Remember that that 933 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,600 Speaker 2: meant that FEMA was in a position to administer some 934 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 2: of the vaccine grants she applied for. One see, in 935 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,040 Speaker 2: order to get these vaccine grants, though, you had to 936 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 2: do vaccinations. I'm willing to bet that if you went 937 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 2: and check these records. There are some people that have 938 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 2: been vaccinated eighteen thousand, five hundred and fifty times that 939 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:05,440 Speaker 2: they are on papers have been vaccinated right and left. 940 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 2: Because there are double and triple and quadruple and homet 941 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,760 Speaker 2: Who knows how many reimbursements are going in. Who's been caught. Now, 942 00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,960 Speaker 2: she's trying to play the race card. I'm a successful 943 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,040 Speaker 2: African American woman. They're targeting me over this. But I 944 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,120 Speaker 2: know she isn't getting a lot of support, either in 945 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,320 Speaker 2: Florida or anywhere else. It means probably a lot of 946 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:26,120 Speaker 2: people figure that she has been scamming this. And we 947 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,000 Speaker 2: just had a case in the state of Wisconsin, a 948 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,040 Speaker 2: big deal. The other area where there's a lot of 949 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 2: scams home health care or home childcare services. Who's checking 950 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 2: suppose Paul said, Let's say Paul has his wife set 951 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 2: up a home childcare business in they're reimbursing for nine 952 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 2: kids being in there every day. How many times do 953 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,320 Speaker 2: they get State bureaucrack comes in and sees if there's 954 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 2: nine kids in there. That's just it. So again, whenever 955 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,400 Speaker 2: anybody tries to draw attention to any of these programs, 956 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 2: saying that we're spending too much money on that. People say, well, 957 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,440 Speaker 2: now you're a not for child career, not for disaster relief, 958 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,440 Speaker 2: or you weren't for getting people vaccinated. With regard to 959 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,640 Speaker 2: COVID and without regard to your position on the actual issue, 960 00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 2: these become just easy targets for fraud, and the only 961 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 2: way to stop it is for the punishment to be harsh. 962 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 2: This woman needs, first of all, her political career needs 963 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 2: to end. The Democrats are not removing her from Congress. Well, 964 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:29,560 Speaker 2: she's only been charged you sexually harassed somebody. They'll run 965 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,560 Speaker 2: you out of Congress instantly, without regard to whether or 966 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 2: not you're a conviction. But you can be accused of 967 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,920 Speaker 2: stealing five million dollars in federal money. She's gonna be 968 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,080 Speaker 2: staying there forever. Now, why do the Democrats want her 969 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,360 Speaker 2: to stay and not reside? They need her vote? Why 970 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,480 Speaker 2: did I just tell you? With regard to Marjorie Taylor Green, 971 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:48,680 Speaker 2: the Republican margin is minuscule. So if sherpullis McCormick resigns. 972 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,040 Speaker 2: First of all, she's got from a very democratic district 973 00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,680 Speaker 2: in Florida. There aren't many districts in Florida that overwhelming 974 00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:03,640 Speaker 2: the Democratic but hers is she's county, she will that 975 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,800 Speaker 2: seat will always be held by a Democrat. Secondly, the 976 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,040 Speaker 2: other reason a lot of Democrats are not coming to 977 01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,520 Speaker 2: her back is they're going to be able to get 978 01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 2: a Democrat that they find less distasteful than her in 979 01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:18,520 Speaker 2: that seat. But until the election next year, they wanted 980 01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,840 Speaker 2: to stay around without regard to how crooked she is, 981 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:25,080 Speaker 2: and given how slowly the criminal justice system works, there 982 01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:26,919 Speaker 2: won't be a conviction prior to that. And I'm sure 983 01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,920 Speaker 2: they'll tell her at some point, you're going to take 984 01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 2: a plea deal. She'll take a plea deal, but she 985 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,240 Speaker 2: won't take the plea deal until after the election in 986 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,440 Speaker 2: November of next year, because once she takes the plea deal, 987 01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:45,640 Speaker 2: she'd have to resign her seat in the Congress. The 988 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:50,400 Speaker 2: people that are voting for all these Marxist mayors, one 989 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 2: of the things that you think would happen that just 990 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,280 Speaker 2: doesn't happen is they never seem to think that all 991 01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,440 Speaker 2: the crap that's happening in all the other cities that 992 01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,520 Speaker 2: have Marxist mayors will happen in their city. People tried 993 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:01,960 Speaker 2: to say this to the people of New York Do 994 01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,240 Speaker 2: you want to be Seattle? Do you want to be 995 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,080 Speaker 2: Los Angeles? And they just can't connect that. It's the 996 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,640 Speaker 2: Marxism that's the problem. They think, well though, its people 997 01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:13,040 Speaker 2: just have dumb mayors. It's not because they're Marxists. To 998 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,080 Speaker 2: my retort, I just to my I simply used Chicago 999 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 2: as a retort of all the big cities in the 1000 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,640 Speaker 2: I guess you could throw New York in here. You know, 1001 01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,680 Speaker 2: all over the United States, downtowns had gone on hard times. 1002 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:30,480 Speaker 2: They started to bounce back when the millennials moved to 1003 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,280 Speaker 2: downtown's like like they have in Milwaukee to live. But 1004 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,120 Speaker 2: you remember, you know, downtowns were the big shopping areas 1005 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 2: and the entertainment districts and so on, and then malls 1006 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:43,960 Speaker 2: came in and downtown's became they struggled in most of them, 1007 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:50,080 Speaker 2: they're just offices. Chicago was the city Who's downtown that 1008 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:57,000 Speaker 2: never happened, Michigan Avenue, the Magnificent Mile, beautiful, the whole, 1009 01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,360 Speaker 2: the Lower the Loop area, a little bit more downs scale, 1010 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:09,920 Speaker 2: but still vibrant as lefty as Chicago was prior to 1011 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,360 Speaker 2: two mayors ago. When Lightfoot got in. They never really 1012 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:17,320 Speaker 2: had a crazy idiotic mayor. They were always Democrats, mind you, 1013 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:25,080 Speaker 2: but they were mayors that understood that Chicago bank rolls 1014 01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,160 Speaker 2: everything in the quality of life, all the money that 1015 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:28,680 Speaker 2: comes out of this this is what we need in 1016 01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:30,560 Speaker 2: order to pay for all of our lefty stuff and 1017 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 2: so on. But these Marxists have a different view. In part, 1018 01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,120 Speaker 2: they don't believe in locking people up and they don't 1019 01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,440 Speaker 2: believe in incarcerating them. So it starts with the crime. 1020 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,840 Speaker 2: It always starts at the crime, and the crime creates 1021 01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 2: the snowball effect. The crime starts, the businesses start to leave. 1022 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,400 Speaker 2: Businesses start to leave, so now it's not attractive to residential. 1023 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,720 Speaker 2: Now the business of residential are down, so even more 1024 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:56,480 Speaker 2: businesses leaving. It keeps snowballing and snowballing and snowballing. If 1025 01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,960 Speaker 2: I remember back in my younger days, I mean, just 1026 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,360 Speaker 2: always go to Chicago on Christmas time. It was so beautiful. 1027 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,600 Speaker 2: I mean they lit it up. I mean Michigan Avenue 1028 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,440 Speaker 2: itself at night. It was brighter than in daytime. The 1029 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,560 Speaker 2: lights in the street, the street is so wide, all 1030 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 2: the stores are decorated up. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. Well they 1031 01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,400 Speaker 2: still have the Christmas tree lighting do you hear about 1032 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:23,960 Speaker 2: what happened at the Christmas tree lighting? Three hundred teens 1033 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 2: show up and riot. This is happening now at almost 1034 01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:31,920 Speaker 2: every downtown Chicago thing. If there's a thing that brings 1035 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,560 Speaker 2: in like people from the suburbs and a lot of others, 1036 01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,960 Speaker 2: it's their opportunity. They have no fear of consequences. They 1037 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,520 Speaker 2: figure there's three hundred of us. Worst case scenario, the 1038 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,800 Speaker 2: cops will grab nine of us, and when they do 1039 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,760 Speaker 2: grab nine of us, they won't do anything to us 1040 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,960 Speaker 2: because the lefties run Chicago. So they had a riot. 1041 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:55,240 Speaker 2: Five people were shot, one critical condition, gunshot wound to 1042 01:03:55,320 --> 01:04:01,000 Speaker 2: the torso. Multiple police officers were attacked and injured with 1043 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,520 Speaker 2: mace and stun guns. See, the police officers in Chicago 1044 01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,680 Speaker 2: know that they can't respond to violence with violence. They 1045 01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:08,800 Speaker 2: can't use the kind of force that's being directed at them. 1046 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:10,640 Speaker 2: It used to be what the cops would do is 1047 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,880 Speaker 2: they would mace the criminals and they would, you know, 1048 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 2: they would tase them. Now the criminals are coming in 1049 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:16,960 Speaker 2: with this stuff, firing out at the cops who can't 1050 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:21,400 Speaker 2: do anything in response. So how'd you like to be 1051 01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,520 Speaker 2: Let's suppose you're somebody who lives on the North Shore 1052 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,760 Speaker 2: of Chicago, and okay, we'll come down for the Christmas 1053 01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:27,520 Speaker 2: tree lighting. And you saw this and you're fearful for 1054 01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:33,680 Speaker 2: your life. Never again. Now you'd like to argue to 1055 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,480 Speaker 2: other liberals, Okay, fine, elect one of your stupid, dope 1056 01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,800 Speaker 2: liberal mayors. You know, the Tom Barretts and John Northis 1057 01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,160 Speaker 2: of the world are a dime a dozen. You can't 1058 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:45,400 Speaker 2: do this. And I will say, as adult as may 1059 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,960 Speaker 2: Or Chevy is, he's not a Marxist. You know, we 1060 01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,640 Speaker 2: have disorder on Water Street. It's not like they don't 1061 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,280 Speaker 2: do anything to stop it, but once it actually starts, 1062 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,400 Speaker 2: they realize, okay, we have to do something. They're not 1063 01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:01,080 Speaker 2: of the opinion let them do it. But that's what 1064 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:05,360 Speaker 2: you get when you get with Marxism. The challenge is 1065 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,680 Speaker 2: always going to be to persuade the lefties who live 1066 01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,120 Speaker 2: in these big cities that the Marxists and all the 1067 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,240 Speaker 2: other cities are have the same mentality and mindset as 1068 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,000 Speaker 2: the Marxist that's running for office in your own city. 1069 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 2: And now to this story, there are two types of criminals. 1070 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:25,160 Speaker 2: What do you do you think you know what the 1071 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:30,280 Speaker 2: two types are. Yes, you got it, smart and dumb. 1072 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,880 Speaker 2: I was gonna stay smart. It's stupid. I think stupid 1073 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,680 Speaker 2: sounds what's worse, stupid or dumb. I think stupid is 1074 01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,120 Speaker 2: a lower level of dumb, don't you. Yes, I think 1075 01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:41,320 Speaker 2: like lots of people in dumb, I mean dumb. I'm 1076 01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,960 Speaker 2: you know, I'm all excited. I uh, did I push 1077 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:54,840 Speaker 2: or lose my football? Pick? Was my line? Two and 1078 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:58,120 Speaker 2: a half? I thought it was either two and a 1079 01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,360 Speaker 2: half or three. It was in both plays, and I 1080 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,280 Speaker 2: don't remember what it was. And we did our contest. 1081 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:10,480 Speaker 2: I thought it was three on the radio. But well, yeah, 1082 01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:12,280 Speaker 2: I do want it right now. How hard is it 1083 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:17,040 Speaker 2: for you to find these things? Three? I pushed, I pushed, 1084 01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:24,240 Speaker 2: I tied. Yeah, I tied. I lost four in a row. 1085 01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,520 Speaker 2: So the point that I was making before Paul got 1086 01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,320 Speaker 2: all laddled off on this is for me tying, rather 1087 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,600 Speaker 2: than this is actually a victory. I didn't lose five 1088 01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,760 Speaker 2: weeks in a row. I have at one in the ages. 1089 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:38,000 Speaker 2: But I tied on my pick. You won your game 1090 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:42,440 Speaker 2: by half a point, didn't you mean embarrassing? Just by 1091 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,720 Speaker 2: the way, Let me throw this in real quickly. The 1092 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,640 Speaker 2: Bears are eight and three. Do you believe they have 1093 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:52,480 Speaker 2: been outscored on the season. Mathematically, that's almost impossible. The 1094 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,520 Speaker 2: only way that can happen is in your three losses, 1095 01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:59,200 Speaker 2: you get slaughtered so bad that that margin of loss 1096 01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,920 Speaker 2: and your three losses overwhelms the margin of victory. At 1097 01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:07,560 Speaker 2: eight games, it usually means you get your come up 1098 01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,120 Speaker 2: and s and hopefully that'll be in the two games 1099 01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,800 Speaker 2: they play against Green Bay. Anyway, we're the two types 1100 01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:14,560 Speaker 2: of criminals. You have to amend your answer because you're 1101 01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:20,600 Speaker 2: ninety nine percent correct, smart and stupid. This story is that? 1102 01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,040 Speaker 2: Which type do you think this story is going to 1103 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:27,960 Speaker 2: be about? Stupid? I mean some crooks are smart, like 1104 01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,800 Speaker 2: the ones that's target scamming the government for everybody, Like 1105 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,280 Speaker 2: the Congress from Florida has caught ninety seven zillion get 1106 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,240 Speaker 2: away with it. You know. The FEMA is just ripped, 1107 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:41,200 Speaker 2: ripped off right and left, all right. This couple's name 1108 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:45,520 Speaker 2: is Ricardo and Anna Puentes. They're from Watertown. They went 1109 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,960 Speaker 2: into the Saint Vincent to Paul's store on Pelwaukee. This 1110 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,040 Speaker 2: according to the Waco shop freeman. First of all, I 1111 01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:55,439 Speaker 2: just the places you're gonna go to, Like I don't 1112 01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,600 Speaker 2: for the Saint vincent to Paul. Stuff is really cheap 1113 01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:03,120 Speaker 2: to begin with, right, I know, and am again I'm 1114 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,560 Speaker 2: can't say I'm familiar. Maybe there's like no security at 1115 01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,439 Speaker 2: all there because of the nature. I mean, I don't 1116 01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:12,120 Speaker 2: think they've got security cameras of the whole thing. They well, 1117 01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:13,760 Speaker 2: I mean, this is the Pewauculan. I just don't know. 1118 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:17,840 Speaker 2: Oh it's in the story. I didn't even read that part. 1119 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,760 Speaker 2: Oh that's how they caught the other part of it. 1120 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:25,040 Speaker 2: You're right about that anyway, that's they go into shoplift. Okay, 1121 01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,639 Speaker 2: people go into shoplift everywhere. Now, I know a little 1122 01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,479 Speaker 2: bit about shoplifting. First of all, there's YouTube videos and 1123 01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,720 Speaker 2: shoplifting all over the place. What's the primary goal of 1124 01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,639 Speaker 2: shop Well, obviously to steal the stuff. But in terms 1125 01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,320 Speaker 2: of the way you shoplift, what's the most important thing 1126 01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:46,599 Speaker 2: to know? Well, don't draw attention to yourself. Don't draw 1127 01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:52,440 Speaker 2: attention to yourself. So the couple's going into shoplift. While shoplifting, 1128 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:57,080 Speaker 2: the guy grabs up a twelve year old girl. What 1129 01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:01,439 Speaker 2: shoplifting isn't enough, Let's do child mollist anyway. Now it's 1130 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:04,720 Speaker 2: not clear would they have caught him or not. But 1131 01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:08,040 Speaker 2: the little girls said she reported this. They checked the 1132 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:12,400 Speaker 2: security video and they see that they were shoplifting. I 1133 01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:15,519 Speaker 2: know this. Who's the angriest person about the whole thing? 1134 01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,280 Speaker 2: The wife? First of all, what do you do, I'm 1135 01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,639 Speaker 2: grabbing a prop of year old girl. You're here with me. Secondly, 1136 01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 2: we would have gone away with the stuff that we swiped, 1137 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:28,920 Speaker 2: but you couldn't keep your hands to yourself. Ricardo and 1138 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,120 Speaker 2: Anna Puent's and then they questioned him, and of course 1139 01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:36,519 Speaker 2: he admits it. I honestly think that if I had 1140 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,719 Speaker 2: that kind of problem, I'm molesting twelve year old children. 1141 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,759 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure even if they showed me the video, 1142 01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,639 Speaker 2: I would still deny it. But he admitted it. Let's see. 1143 01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:50,040 Speaker 2: I love hearing the statements of stupid criminals. Obviously it's 1144 01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:53,120 Speaker 2: a terrifying story, but the good thing is the pervertsmen 1145 01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:57,679 Speaker 2: caught and the little girl, the fact that this happened 1146 01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:59,280 Speaker 2: to her. I don't want to put this in the 1147 01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:02,679 Speaker 2: wrong way, but the fact that she quickly alerted everyone, 1148 01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,120 Speaker 2: she's helped prevent anybody else from doing this, and she 1149 01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:09,240 Speaker 2: could consider herself a hero here rather than a victim. 1150 01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,160 Speaker 2: And the criminal plaint said The twelve year old old 1151 01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,080 Speaker 2: reported to her mother in November nine that she was 1152 01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,880 Speaker 2: at the Pewaukee Saint Vincent de Paul's store earlier that 1153 01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,120 Speaker 2: they shopping with friends and a pair of one of 1154 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,000 Speaker 2: them when a man and a parent of one of 1155 01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:24,160 Speaker 2: them when a man touched her inappropriately on her backside. 1156 01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,760 Speaker 2: She reported the man had been following her around the 1157 01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,519 Speaker 2: store and made her feel uncomfortable, and that he brushed 1158 01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:34,120 Speaker 2: up against her but had repeatedly gotten uncomfortably close to her. 1159 01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:37,800 Speaker 2: Police reviewed surveillance cameras from that day on the store 1160 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:43,200 Speaker 2: on which the man is seen touching the girl. Were 1161 01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,479 Speaker 2: touching the girl's butt with his left hand. The complaints said. 1162 01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,719 Speaker 2: He was also seen leaving the store with a full 1163 01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,120 Speaker 2: purse that was empty when his wife carried it in. 1164 01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,640 Speaker 2: So the guy has the purse, the white frid and 1165 01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,720 Speaker 2: the empty person. Suddenly he's the guy that's smuggling out 1166 01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,280 Speaker 2: of the purse, and then he's so if they he 1167 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,519 Speaker 2: would have gotten away, was they would have gotten away? 1168 01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,920 Speaker 2: Was stealing the stuff if the goof hadn't grabbed the 1169 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,280 Speaker 2: butt of the twelve year old girl who ratted him out. 1170 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,000 Speaker 2: Oh I love cameras everywhere I love the fact that 1171 01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,400 Speaker 2: the girl told their parents about the fact that it 1172 01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,240 Speaker 2: happened in the yacht. You gotta love the fact that 1173 01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,320 Speaker 2: the Saint Vincent of Paul store had the cameras in there. 1174 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,080 Speaker 2: And I don't know about the citizenship status of the 1175 01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,479 Speaker 2: point his family here, but I will tell you this, 1176 01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:26,960 Speaker 2: I want the book thrown at this creep. The wife. 1177 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,120 Speaker 2: She needs to be prosecuted for shop lipping. You don't 1178 01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:30,840 Speaker 2: give her a pass of this. I want the book 1179 01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:34,760 Speaker 2: thrown at this creep. Well may this may well be. 1180 01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I did not have an opportunity to run 1181 01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,759 Speaker 2: his criminal background check and so on. And the problem 1182 01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,599 Speaker 2: with credit a criminal background check is in Wisconsin. All 1183 01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:48,840 Speaker 2: that shows up is Wisconsin, and often people will be 1184 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,280 Speaker 2: from numerous states, and there may be lots of other things. 1185 01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:56,639 Speaker 2: But oh yeah, that's in here somewhere. I didn't breathe 1186 01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:59,880 Speaker 2: the entirety of the quote. I jump on ahead. Yeah, 1187 01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,720 Speaker 2: he pretty much acknowledges he's a pervert. Let's see the 1188 01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,960 Speaker 2: Raccuto Puente said he was attracted to the girl. What 1189 01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:12,160 Speaker 2: a don't be thing to admit. I mean, let's go 1190 01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,439 Speaker 2: to Mark Belling's Perfect World and figure out what the 1191 01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,479 Speaker 2: punishment of this is it's just a question of which 1192 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,880 Speaker 2: body part do we want to cut off more? I 1193 01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,559 Speaker 2: mean the hands. He's shoplifting with the hands and that's 1194 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,880 Speaker 2: what he's grabbing with, or there's another body part that 1195 01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:33,080 Speaker 2: we could go after. But he was stupid to think 1196 01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:37,280 Speaker 2: to touch her. Well stupid? Is he as stupid? He 1197 01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:41,920 Speaker 2: admits his stupidity. He's also depraved in a monster, the 1198 01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,760 Speaker 2: complaint said. But he indicated that he stopped himself as 1199 01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:48,760 Speaker 2: he started to reach for her. When that actually that's 1200 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,720 Speaker 2: not real smart either. I mean the guy say so 1201 01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,120 Speaker 2: he's stick in his arm out. The girl kind of 1202 01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,040 Speaker 2: saw that it was coming out there, but stick at 1203 01:12:55,040 --> 01:13:00,479 Speaker 2: his arm out. You see him on the security camera. Anyway, 1204 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:04,640 Speaker 2: when Shona recorded image of him touching her, he responded 1205 01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:08,400 Speaker 2: by saying, I need help. Maybe he can go to 1206 01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,240 Speaker 2: the same shrinks that. Maybe he can go to what's 1207 01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:14,800 Speaker 2: her call up? What's his name? Sass over there and 1208 01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,360 Speaker 2: he can have his girlfriend give him a fill out 1209 01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,439 Speaker 2: a fifteen minute question here and send a letter say 1210 01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:24,320 Speaker 2: on that the I mean, there are people listening to 1211 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,519 Speaker 2: me who probably know this guy, this sass and the 1212 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,439 Speaker 2: psychologist who looks at a form and then puts in 1213 01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:33,040 Speaker 2: a person's name and signs their name to it and 1214 01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,679 Speaker 2: claims that she's a competent metal health professional as opposed 1215 01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:43,400 Speaker 2: to what everybody knows. These two are. What. Yeah, I 1216 01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:48,280 Speaker 2: messed up and not had these thoughts for a long 1217 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,920 Speaker 2: time until he went into the Saint Vincent de Paul store, 1218 01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,759 Speaker 2: apparently to shoplift. I'm sure the wife's wool thing is fine. 1219 01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,640 Speaker 2: You go and do that. You're a door stealing our 1220 01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:00,799 Speaker 2: stuff going out of the park. All of this stuff 1221 01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,360 Speaker 2: I had, like, I don't even know what you gotta think. See, 1222 01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:05,519 Speaker 2: I'm thinking at the Pewaukee Saint Vincent de Paul, you 1223 01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:09,439 Speaker 2: there might be some halfway decent stuff in there. Well, yeah, 1224 01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:12,400 Speaker 2: this is Peewaukee. This is not like uh this, it'd 1225 01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:14,920 Speaker 2: be like you're seeing Vincent DePaul and see in in 1226 01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:18,320 Speaker 2: uh in, what's her name? Cedarburgh in there? You don't 1227 01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:23,080 Speaker 2: have one? Do you have a Salvation army? Or are 1228 01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:26,360 Speaker 2: you claiming that Cedarburgh won't even allow that kind of slumming? 1229 01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,280 Speaker 2: Or I know what it is, you Cedarburgh. Rich people, 1230 01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:32,080 Speaker 2: you're so cheap, you don't donate anything and give it away. 1231 01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,280 Speaker 2: You're you simply have your wives go and put the 1232 01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:36,280 Speaker 2: thing up on eBay rather than giving it away to 1233 01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:42,200 Speaker 2: poor people or whatever. Well, I mean, of course they 1234 01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,320 Speaker 2: look like like like like crooks, and he looks like 1235 01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,679 Speaker 2: a pervert. But whenever you see somebody that you already 1236 01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:50,280 Speaker 2: know is a pervert, I mean there's the whole you know, 1237 01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:53,960 Speaker 2: Pewee Herman. Everybody believed it because he just looks like 1238 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,200 Speaker 2: he's a pervert. The Woody Allen thing is the closest 1239 01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:02,040 Speaker 2: call I think. I the Woody Allen thing is more 1240 01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:05,640 Speaker 2: than a quarter century old, and all we know is 1241 01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:07,559 Speaker 2: the evidence of what people have said on both sides. 1242 01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:11,080 Speaker 2: I'm fifty to fifty as to whether or not he 1243 01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,800 Speaker 2: did it. I just do you think Woody Allen did it? 1244 01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:23,160 Speaker 2: You do? I just his denials are credible. His accuser 1245 01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:27,080 Speaker 2: is not credible in the sense that it was part 1246 01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,519 Speaker 2: of one of the most public breakups of Victorial of 1247 01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,320 Speaker 2: all what he yelled at me and Pharaoh of I mean, 1248 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:36,000 Speaker 2: this was World War I talked with Well, it was 1249 01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:40,280 Speaker 2: just hatred between the two of them, in which you 1250 01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:45,680 Speaker 2: could certainly see her prompting one of the kids to 1251 01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,240 Speaker 2: say this. The thing of it is with regard to 1252 01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:50,320 Speaker 2: any kind of pervert. I always look as to whether 1253 01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:52,040 Speaker 2: or not there's a pattern, and that's where the Woody 1254 01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:55,920 Speaker 2: Allen thing becomes problematic. There's a little bit of a pattern, 1255 01:15:55,960 --> 01:16:01,240 Speaker 2: but not much. I mean, he married his wife's stepped up. 1256 01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:05,960 Speaker 2: People keep confusing that Sung Ye was also right around 1257 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,320 Speaker 2: of age when he married her. But Sunyi was not 1258 01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:11,000 Speaker 2: Woody Allen's child. He was onre Previn's child and me 1259 01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,479 Speaker 2: as child. They adopted Sun Yee. It was never his child. 1260 01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:18,519 Speaker 2: And he made the movie Manhattan in which his girlfriend 1261 01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:20,560 Speaker 2: and the movie is seven. The oddest thing to me 1262 01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:23,719 Speaker 2: about Manhattan is when that came out, nobody was bothered 1263 01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:28,360 Speaker 2: by this at all. And people point out at that 1264 01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:31,280 Speaker 2: time the age of consent in New York was was seventeen, 1265 01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:33,240 Speaker 2: so it was not illegally he was doing it. But 1266 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:35,120 Speaker 2: I mean, it's one of the most praise movies of 1267 01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:36,920 Speaker 2: all time. In the movie, he's having an affair with 1268 01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,240 Speaker 2: a seventeen year old and nobody was bothered by That's 1269 01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,200 Speaker 2: part of it. In fact, the implication was that the 1270 01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,439 Speaker 2: happy ending was it looked like they were gonna hook up, 1271 01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:47,519 Speaker 2: she went off to Paris or whatever and so on. Now, 1272 01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:50,760 Speaker 2: if you made a movie about some old geezer point 1273 01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,120 Speaker 2: on a seventeen year old. It would be you couldn't. 1274 01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,360 Speaker 2: It's not even succeptible in pornography to do that, for 1275 01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:00,960 Speaker 2: Heaven's sakes, So I don't. Other than that, though, there 1276 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,320 Speaker 2: have never been other accusers that have come forward to 1277 01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:07,920 Speaker 2: my knowledge against Woody Allen. And you know the whole 1278 01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:12,920 Speaker 2: Ron and Pharaoh thing. That's Dylan's sister and he had 1279 01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:18,439 Speaker 2: an axe to grind. I think there's a good chance 1280 01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:20,160 Speaker 2: he didn't do it. I think there's a good chance 1281 01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,880 Speaker 2: he did do it. I'm undecided on that issue. I'm 1282 01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:24,960 Speaker 2: never undecided. They always have these polls, you know, a 1283 01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:28,479 Speaker 2: gallup pool forty nine, forty eight percent, this three percent undecided, 1284 01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:30,360 Speaker 2: always wort. How are these people who can't make them 1285 01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,840 Speaker 2: with their minds? He's undecided and this one I'm undecided. 1286 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:39,679 Speaker 2: This is the Mark Belling podcast. Let's talk about football. 1287 01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:42,639 Speaker 2: Do you want to talk about football? All right? Let's 1288 01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:44,360 Speaker 2: start with the state high school fight. Did you go 1289 01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:46,720 Speaker 2: to these games that? Did you crap out because it 1290 01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:48,600 Speaker 2: was too cold for you? You were there? Did you 1291 01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:50,519 Speaker 2: stay for all three of them or not? Did you 1292 01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,639 Speaker 2: stay for all three of them? Or not. I thought 1293 01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:55,599 Speaker 2: you were. You said you were going to all three games. 1294 01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,160 Speaker 2: Well now you changed so you only went to the 1295 01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:03,519 Speaker 2: one game. Well, I'm gonna quickly comment because I watched 1296 01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,559 Speaker 2: all three of these games because on Friday, as you know, 1297 01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,320 Speaker 2: I sit on my rein and don't do anything, and 1298 01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,719 Speaker 2: it's the daytime. What a perfect in their sports during 1299 01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:11,960 Speaker 2: the daytime on TV that is at a replace. So 1300 01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:15,200 Speaker 2: I watched all three games. Grafton won the Division III game. 1301 01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:16,800 Speaker 2: It wasn't the last play of the game, but it 1302 01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,719 Speaker 2: was fourth thout. It was they had no time outs left. 1303 01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,400 Speaker 2: There's I think twelve seconds on the clock. Kid kicks 1304 01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,920 Speaker 2: a thirty five yard field. You talk about pressure, We 1305 01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,960 Speaker 2: talk about how kids have such snowflakes and pressure and 1306 01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,400 Speaker 2: anxiety and all of this stuff. How'd you like to 1307 01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:34,080 Speaker 2: be a kid knowing that you are going to remember 1308 01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,080 Speaker 2: for the rest of your life. You either want to 1309 01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,679 Speaker 2: state championship with your kick or you cost your team 1310 01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,839 Speaker 2: a state championship by going wide left. That is pressure. 1311 01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:44,160 Speaker 2: Thirty five isn't that long, but for high school it's 1312 01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,160 Speaker 2: a kid, it's a kick. Any put it through. So 1313 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:50,120 Speaker 2: that was they won their game on a field. Go 1314 01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:52,519 Speaker 2: West to Pier won the kind of it's not really 1315 01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:56,519 Speaker 2: Crosstown but close west to peer beat Green Bay Notre Dame, 1316 01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:58,320 Speaker 2: which is the Catholic school from the Green Bay area. 1317 01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:02,479 Speaker 2: That was a pretty good game. And then the Division 1318 01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:05,080 Speaker 2: One game. I need to bring this up because it's something. 1319 01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,599 Speaker 2: What happened is something that I saw more than once 1320 01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,240 Speaker 2: this more than once this weekend. It happened in an 1321 01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:15,559 Speaker 2: NFL game too. Bayport was playing Arrowhead and it was 1322 01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:18,519 Speaker 2: a back and forth game of two really high powered teams. 1323 01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:24,800 Speaker 2: And you know, Arrowhead scored Bayport's driving down the length 1324 01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,320 Speaker 2: of the field with time running out, and they had 1325 01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,280 Speaker 2: almost no time to go to the length of the field, 1326 01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:32,280 Speaker 2: and they got down to the eleven year I should 1327 01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:40,680 Speaker 2: mention Arrowheads up by three points, and Bayport completed a 1328 01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:44,040 Speaker 2: couple of long passes and got to the eleven and 1329 01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:48,679 Speaker 2: the kid catches the ball with one second left, which 1330 01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,240 Speaker 2: stopped the clock one more second and none of this 1331 01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:53,880 Speaker 2: even comes up. Caught them with one second left, and 1332 01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,760 Speaker 2: it looked like the crack operator did not help or hurt. 1333 01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,400 Speaker 2: It looked like the clock stopped right when I don't 1334 01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:00,960 Speaker 2: recall a few out of bounds in the out of 1335 01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,320 Speaker 2: timeout or what it was, but the clock properly stopped 1336 01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:07,360 Speaker 2: after the catch. You're down by three, you're on the eleven. 1337 01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:15,160 Speaker 2: The Bayport coach elected not to kick a tying field goal, 1338 01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:18,000 Speaker 2: which would have sent the game into overtime, and decided 1339 01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:21,400 Speaker 2: to go for the win on fourth and eleven. Well, 1340 01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:26,920 Speaker 2: they didn't do it. The coach is the son of 1341 01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:30,679 Speaker 2: the son of Steve Jorgenson. Steve Jorgensen was the guy 1342 01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:33,479 Speaker 2: that won state championship at Oshkosh North and he started 1343 01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:36,200 Speaker 2: the dynasty at Kimberly. Another guy took over after him 1344 01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:39,160 Speaker 2: and continued the Kimberly dynasty. This is his son, and 1345 01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:44,800 Speaker 2: he won a championship with Bayport last year. And what 1346 01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:48,519 Speaker 2: we don't know They mentioned on TV that their kicker 1347 01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:50,920 Speaker 2: was three for three on the season. Here's the thing 1348 01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,960 Speaker 2: with teams that go to the state championship. They usually 1349 01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:57,200 Speaker 2: slaughter everybody during the season, so they're probably not. I mean, 1350 01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,160 Speaker 2: I'll watch Baseport. You can just see how for most 1351 01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,200 Speaker 2: teams they played their probably scoring it will. They never 1352 01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:03,560 Speaker 2: needed to kick a field goal because they were scoring touchdowns. 1353 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,400 Speaker 2: So were they making that? Did they make the decision 1354 01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:09,960 Speaker 2: that they couldn't trust their kicker with the game on 1355 01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:11,760 Speaker 2: the line, they hit a twenty eight. It's the same 1356 01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:14,400 Speaker 2: thing that the Grafting kid was facing. That was for 1357 01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,720 Speaker 2: the win in the game, rather than this was just 1358 01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:19,200 Speaker 2: for a tie that he didn't trust his kicker to 1359 01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:22,160 Speaker 2: be able to respond to the pressure. Or did they 1360 01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:23,639 Speaker 2: just think that they had to play that they could 1361 01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:25,320 Speaker 2: make worth and fourth and if it's one thing to 1362 01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:27,120 Speaker 2: go forward and fourth and one or fourth and two. 1363 01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:29,160 Speaker 2: They went foot and fourth and eleven and they didn't 1364 01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:35,640 Speaker 2: make it. He said, I asked my players and they 1365 01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,080 Speaker 2: said go for it. First of all, if you're the 1366 01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:41,040 Speaker 2: coach of the team, you're the guy that's supposed to 1367 01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:43,080 Speaker 2: make that decision. I would not put that. I would 1368 01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:45,400 Speaker 2: not put that on the kids. That is different from 1369 01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:47,720 Speaker 2: Mark Johnson, the Badger hockey coach, where they had a 1370 01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:51,760 Speaker 2: penalty shot to tie the National Championship game. He said, 1371 01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,000 Speaker 2: who wants it? He was looking for a player who 1372 01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,960 Speaker 2: was not going to shy away from that moment. And 1373 01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:59,960 Speaker 2: that's a separate thing from Yeah, I think that that's 1374 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,120 Speaker 2: not a good answer. I think I think you should 1375 01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:03,880 Speaker 2: say it's my decision and I'm gonna live or die 1376 01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:05,920 Speaker 2: with it, and that's the reason he's the coach. I mean, 1377 01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:08,640 Speaker 2: I mean by that standard, I mean the coach is 1378 01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:12,559 Speaker 2: never going to call any plays either. Then the same 1379 01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:16,920 Speaker 2: thing happened. The New York Giants are playing Detroit and 1380 01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:21,879 Speaker 2: Packers played Detroit on Thursday. Hard to say if Detroit's 1381 01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,040 Speaker 2: that good or not. I just they were going to 1382 01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:28,840 Speaker 2: lose that game. The Giants had the ball at the 1383 01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:30,840 Speaker 2: end of the game. It was fourth First of all, 1384 01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,439 Speaker 2: it was third down. They had got the ball down 1385 01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,639 Speaker 2: to the one yard line and proceeded to lose yard 1386 01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,439 Speaker 2: age and they're running wide plays. So it's fourth and 1387 01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:40,280 Speaker 2: goal of the sixth and you're just assume they're going 1388 01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:42,400 Speaker 2: to kick the field goal to send the game into overtime. 1389 01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:46,839 Speaker 2: They went for it. You know, this is against Detroit. 1390 01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:48,720 Speaker 2: That Campbell the coach at Detroit, he is famous for 1391 01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:50,760 Speaker 2: always going for it at fourth down. But this is 1392 01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,360 Speaker 2: fourth and sixth. It wasn't fourth and two, and a 1393 01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:55,760 Speaker 2: couple of his players took It's an interim coach with 1394 01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:58,439 Speaker 2: the Giants that already fired their coach. So I'm guessing 1395 01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:01,240 Speaker 2: this is an interim coach auditioning for the job. And 1396 01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:03,599 Speaker 2: I think we now know what's gonna happen. He's not 1397 01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:07,639 Speaker 2: gonna get he's not getting the job at the it happen. 1398 01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:10,680 Speaker 2: You just see this trend now, and it started with 1399 01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:12,720 Speaker 2: this whole analytics thing. Go for it, goal for it, 1400 01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:15,240 Speaker 2: goal for it, go for it. The problem, as I've said, 1401 01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:19,800 Speaker 2: with analytics, is it's talking about in the overall in 1402 01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:28,280 Speaker 2: a situation, not that precise situation. It's calculating generically each 1403 01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,800 Speaker 2: team and doesn't take into consideration home field, how good 1404 01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:35,479 Speaker 2: the other team's defense is playing, who has the momentum, 1405 01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:42,280 Speaker 2: doesn't calculate any of those things. And let's talk real 1406 01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:45,800 Speaker 2: quickly about the Packers again. The strength of the Packer 1407 01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:50,920 Speaker 2: team is the defense. And you can debate a lot 1408 01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,000 Speaker 2: of things about green Bay, but you can't debate the 1409 01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:55,920 Speaker 2: trade for Michael Parsons. He has been the final piece 1410 01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,000 Speaker 2: of the puzzle that has given Green Bay an incredibly 1411 01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:01,639 Speaker 2: good defense. Their pass rush is outstanding, they're very good 1412 01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:05,360 Speaker 2: against the run game. I mean, Packers are playing on 1413 01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,439 Speaker 2: defense eleven against nine. Given the fact that three guys 1414 01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,080 Speaker 2: are blocking Parsons, that means two other defenders don't have 1415 01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:14,759 Speaker 2: to worry about anybody that's out there. The caveat, of course, 1416 01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:16,840 Speaker 2: is is that. I think Minnesot's very good football team 1417 01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:19,360 Speaker 2: and is a very good defense, but the Viking quarterback 1418 01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:22,320 Speaker 2: is joke. I mean, maybe in three years JJ McCarthy 1419 01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:24,280 Speaker 2: will be able to play, but he's got good receivers 1420 01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:30,160 Speaker 2: and a good offense around him, and he's just pretty bad. 1421 01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:33,080 Speaker 2: So the Packers are a team whose offense is still 1422 01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:39,479 Speaker 2: to me, not clicking, but their defense is carrying them. 1423 01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,120 Speaker 2: And I've often said, of the two, I'd rather have 1424 01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:44,880 Speaker 2: a strong defense that a strong offense. I think the 1425 01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:48,000 Speaker 2: offense is enough personnel in it that it can come around, 1426 01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:53,000 Speaker 2: but the defense is really it's the defense is really good. Well, 1427 01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:57,120 Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs was not playing very well when he was 1428 01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:59,400 Speaker 2: healthy because he's been playing injured all year. But the 1429 01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:02,640 Speaker 2: offensive is doing a pretty good job of run blocking. Unfortunately, 1430 01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:05,160 Speaker 2: it's not doing much of a job of pass protection. 1431 01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,240 Speaker 2: It's been very hard for Jordan Love to throw long 1432 01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,840 Speaker 2: because he's never has enough time to be able to 1433 01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:12,720 Speaker 2: throw long. With regard to the Wisconsin Badgers, I mean, 1434 01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:15,840 Speaker 2: you talk about an unusual season. They have beaten two 1435 01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:19,800 Speaker 2: ranked teams. The Badgers are four and seven, yet the 1436 01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:22,360 Speaker 2: fans have stormed the field after a win twice which 1437 01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,639 Speaker 2: you just wouldn't think would happen with a team that's 1438 01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:28,160 Speaker 2: four and seven. The last six teams Wisconsin has played 1439 01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,240 Speaker 2: ranked in the top twenty five as of the time 1440 01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,679 Speaker 2: they played them, and eight of the teams that they've 1441 01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:37,240 Speaker 2: played this year have been ranked at one time in 1442 01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:41,040 Speaker 2: the top twenty five. Nonetheless, I think it's accurate to 1443 01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:43,200 Speaker 2: say that some of those losses, it doesn't matter if 1444 01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:44,840 Speaker 2: they were playing a team that was ranked or not, 1445 01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:47,479 Speaker 2: they were terrible. In the case of Wisconsin. What I 1446 01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:49,680 Speaker 2: think has happened here is Fickle has built one of 1447 01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:53,120 Speaker 2: the best defenses in America and he has a terrible offense. 1448 01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,960 Speaker 2: And again, of the two, particularly in college, you know 1449 01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:59,479 Speaker 2: you turnover transfer portal recruiting, you can bring in new players. 1450 01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:01,879 Speaker 2: I think it is harder to build a great defense 1451 01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:04,439 Speaker 2: in college because there are so many good offenses. But 1452 01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:08,040 Speaker 2: I think that Wisconsin made the right decision in bringing 1453 01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:11,160 Speaker 2: Fickle back. The key now will be to have enough 1454 01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:14,880 Speaker 2: money in that program to stop guys from transferring. And 1455 01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:16,839 Speaker 2: there have been a lot of teams in college football 1456 01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:18,920 Speaker 2: that have been firing the coach and nobody's addressing the 1457 01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,720 Speaker 2: real problem unless you have alumni that are going to 1458 01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:24,360 Speaker 2: pull out the check book and start writing out massive checks. 1459 01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:27,560 Speaker 2: You're going to lose players to the schools that do this. 1460 01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,000 Speaker 2: I was talking about this as somebody over the weekend. 1461 01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:33,040 Speaker 2: Don't the Badgers have like techzillionaires. The problem with tech 1462 01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,479 Speaker 2: billionaires is that they don't care about sports. They care 1463 01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:37,880 Speaker 2: about the biotech lab at all of that. You know 1464 01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:40,600 Speaker 2: what kind of alumni care about sports. Guys in the 1465 01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:43,200 Speaker 2: oil business and so on. That's how these Texas schools 1466 01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,800 Speaker 2: have all this money because that's the thing that they're 1467 01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:49,280 Speaker 2: motivated by. But they're going to have to do a 1468 01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:52,680 Speaker 2: better job of paying players, and particularly if you have 1469 01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:54,600 Speaker 2: a freshman who has a good season, you got to 1470 01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:56,800 Speaker 2: pay of it. People say, well I don't like that, Well, 1471 01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:58,880 Speaker 2: then you don't like college sports. That is what it is. 1472 01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:01,280 Speaker 2: Whether you like that, that's what the situation here is. 1473 01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:05,120 Speaker 2: It's the reality. The other problem, and we talked about 1474 01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:09,120 Speaker 2: it with Mike Brolette, is Wisconsin has been plagued by 1475 01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:11,759 Speaker 2: injuries to a level that you wonder if it's beyond 1476 01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:15,360 Speaker 2: a coincidence. But with only a couple of exceptions, it's 1477 01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:18,400 Speaker 2: been confined mostly to the offense. Well, the training staff 1478 01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:21,920 Speaker 2: works on both sides of the balls. I'm guessing the 1479 01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:24,080 Speaker 2: injuries more have more to do with the fact that 1480 01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,960 Speaker 2: the offense wasn't any good, meaning guys are likely to 1481 01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:31,640 Speaker 2: be banged around and overmatched and and so on. And 1482 01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:34,920 Speaker 2: finally this I'm prepared to declare that Formula one in 1483 01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:40,440 Speaker 2: Las Vegas is a failure. This was announced with such fanfare. 1484 01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:44,600 Speaker 2: The race was Saturday night, and I'm telling you, I, 1485 01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:48,439 Speaker 2: other than people that are Formula one geeks, did anybody 1486 01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,760 Speaker 2: even know what was going on? They started they started this, 1487 01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,200 Speaker 2: there was so much hype over the whole thing, and 1488 01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:57,000 Speaker 2: they're going to run the race on the strip and 1489 01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:59,920 Speaker 2: so on. I just think that other than people into 1490 01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,720 Speaker 2: Formula one, other people were watching college football going on 1491 01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:06,240 Speaker 2: and going out on Saturday night. It's just it's become 1492 01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:10,679 Speaker 2: an afterthought on the Formula one schedule. They've got two 1493 01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,080 Speaker 2: American races late and the season in there, so the 1494 01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:16,720 Speaker 2: Formula one is winding itself down with races going on 1495 01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:18,560 Speaker 2: in the one country that doesn't seem to care that 1496 01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:24,040 Speaker 2: much about Formula One. I mean, Formula one gets watched 1497 01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:26,720 Speaker 2: in America when it's on TV when there's nothing else on. 1498 01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,120 Speaker 2: The races in Europe around on Sunday mornings. People will 1499 01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:31,320 Speaker 2: watch it then, but the whole thing in Vegas and 1500 01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:33,760 Speaker 2: Saturday night, plus from what I've been able to pick up, 1501 01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:37,799 Speaker 2: everybody in Vegas hates it because they close the streets 1502 01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:39,599 Speaker 2: for three to four weeks to set up the course. 1503 01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:42,120 Speaker 2: I mean, the strip is closed, the side streets are closed. 1504 01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:45,519 Speaker 2: Visitors who want to come in, and it's still sort 1505 01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:48,360 Speaker 2: of in season in November. The room rates are inflated 1506 01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:50,880 Speaker 2: because all the Formula one people are in town. The 1507 01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:53,639 Speaker 2: casinos don't like it because apparently the people aren't those 1508 01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:55,720 Speaker 2: aren't really gamblers that come in for all of this, 1509 01:28:55,920 --> 01:29:00,000 Speaker 2: and they've unfortunately they're saddled with a ten year contract. 1510 01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:05,240 Speaker 2: But I think and everybody, everyone, maybe not everyone knows 1511 01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:08,240 Speaker 2: Vegas is really hurting. The visitor count is down, and 1512 01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:11,639 Speaker 2: the casino operators are saying, we've got to change things 1513 01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:14,040 Speaker 2: and realize we've been doing too much overcharging with these 1514 01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:17,120 Speaker 2: resort fees and gouging people in the whole you can 1515 01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:18,800 Speaker 2: go to Vegas and not spend a lot of money. 1516 01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,759 Speaker 2: Thing has gone well. We've got an economy in which 1517 01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:25,639 Speaker 2: everybody's cutting back. Walmart's booming, and nobody else is because 1518 01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:28,280 Speaker 2: of the situation in the economy, and it's hitting Vegas. 1519 01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:32,759 Speaker 2: But also I think Vegas. And when I say Vegas, 1520 01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:35,400 Speaker 2: I mean the people marketing Vegas took their eyes off 1521 01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:37,800 Speaker 2: the ball. They're putting their eyes on the ball on 1522 01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:41,479 Speaker 2: the Formula one crowd and not the regular old American crowd. 1523 01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:44,160 Speaker 2: The Vegas crowd is. They have this event in December 1524 01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:46,960 Speaker 2: every year that packs the places in the slow season. 1525 01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:52,040 Speaker 2: It's the rodeo that the Vegas crowd. The Vegas crowd 1526 01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:54,680 Speaker 2: isn't Formula one and chasing all of these high end 1527 01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:57,800 Speaker 2: rich people, the rich and famous, the glitterati from all 1528 01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:00,679 Speaker 2: over the world. Those are people so who may come 1529 01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:02,439 Speaker 2: in for one thing, but they're not going to build 1530 01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:04,759 Speaker 2: any loyalty for you. And in the meantime, you're crowding 1531 01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:10,800 Speaker 2: out what your loyal customer base has been for so long. 1532 01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:14,960 Speaker 2: And I think that those statements are not even controversial. 1533 01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:19,240 Speaker 2: I think almost probably everybody now agrees with that. I 1534 01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:21,280 Speaker 2: want to quickly tell you about our schedule this week. 1535 01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:24,479 Speaker 2: For Thanksgiving week, our next podcast will as usual, be 1536 01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:26,960 Speaker 2: released on Wednesday. We are going to be doing our 1537 01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:30,479 Speaker 2: football preview and picks on the Wednesday podcast normally it's 1538 01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:32,840 Speaker 2: on Thursday, but with the Packers playing early in the 1539 01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:34,479 Speaker 2: day on Thursday and so on, we're going to do 1540 01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:38,200 Speaker 2: our football segment with Mike. We're doing that on Wednesday's podcast, 1541 01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:39,760 Speaker 2: the one that will be released in the middle of 1542 01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:42,640 Speaker 2: the week, and the third podcast, which would normally come 1543 01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:45,760 Speaker 2: out on Thursday, that's Thanksgiving Day, so we're releasing on 1544 01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:48,240 Speaker 2: Friday morning. In other words, Black Friday morning. So the 1545 01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:51,799 Speaker 2: third podcast of the week will be released on Friday morning. 1546 01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:53,600 Speaker 2: I just think it's more appropriate that we put it 1547 01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:55,800 Speaker 2: out at that point. So that's when you'll be able 1548 01:30:55,800 --> 01:31:00,120 Speaker 2: to find all of them. Man, keep listening in. That's 1549 01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:08,000 Speaker 2: all you need to know. Yeah, that's Thanksgiving game. I 1550 01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:13,120 Speaker 2: just yeah, and in Detroit, and the whole thing seems 1551 01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:15,719 Speaker 2: like a loss. But I mean then I watched Detroit 1552 01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:19,720 Speaker 2: play and they're not the same team without the two 1553 01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:22,599 Speaker 2: coordinators that they have last year. 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