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Speaker 1: DearS kfans, Ron Johnson and Eric Nordquist.

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Speaker 3: Good evening, Welcome to Vikings Fanline. I am Nordo from

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Speaker 3: nine to noon. Eric Nordquist, Ron Johnson is with me

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Speaker 3: Max Fuller, producers watching the Timberwolves. By the way, Man,

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Speaker 3: the Spurs were on just a nice little run over

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Speaker 3: a three four minute period, weren't they, Max.

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Speaker 2: I think they were up by seven or eight and

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Speaker 2: here come the Howl. Maybe back in the mix.

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Speaker 3: Tied at thirty seven, We're home for Timberwolves basketball early stages,

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Speaker 3: second quarter.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's Vikings fan Line.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry the Vikings have been shut out for the

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Speaker 3: first time since I believe a border battle that took

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Speaker 3: place in November of two thousand and seven be eighteen years.

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Speaker 3: Some people throwing around I haven't done the math to confirm.

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Speaker 3: Don't need multiple sources or a Wikipedia check. Sounds like

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Speaker 3: somewhere in the neighborhood of nearly three hundred games since

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Speaker 3: we since we saw something with with what we witnessed today,

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Speaker 3: Ron Johnson's gonna provide the analysis not just those on

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Speaker 3: Currently trying to log into with quadruple authentication, the KFA

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Speaker 3: and Brats on Bryant text line. We'll get to that momentarily,

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Speaker 3: but first to the phones. Justin and Iowa. Justin, Welcome

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Speaker 3: to Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 4: Hey guys, how you guys doing tonight?

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Speaker 2: Very well? Thank you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, I just want to want to talk right

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Speaker 4: quick that our defense played today. It just lights out amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But to everybody that thought that Max Brosmer was supposed

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Speaker 4: to be our hero because they were just hating on McCarthy,

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Speaker 4: I mean, his passer rating today was even worse than

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Speaker 4: McCarthy's game against the Packers. I mean McCarthy one day,

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Speaker 4: whether it's with the Vikings or not, and I pray

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Speaker 4: to God it's with the Vikings. He will have a

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Speaker 4: super Bowl win. But Max Brosmer is not the answer.

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Speaker 4: Even if McCarthy is hurt, I mean, I don't know,

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Speaker 4: but I'm I'm sure he played his hardest and he

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Speaker 4: played his best whatever, but his best surely wasn't good enough.

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Speaker 4: And that picked sixty three with those four other four interceptions,

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Speaker 4: I mean, that was just ridiculous. I mean, who throws

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Speaker 4: that ball? Yeah, I'll hang up and hear what you

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Speaker 4: guys have to say.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you taking my call.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it, justin expectations, I know many because of

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Speaker 3: the way JJ was playing Ron. I mean, we want

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Speaker 3: to see what Max has right. That was kind of

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Speaker 3: the idea we were here. I think last week you

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Speaker 3: had you had mim ye had everybody texting you and

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Speaker 3: just like, why don't we put McCarthy or why don't

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Speaker 3: we put bros.

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Speaker 2: And I was shout out.

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Speaker 6: To mim GM at Fox and I yeah, she, I

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Speaker 6: mean she wanted it. I'm pretty sure, Pat Kessler, you

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Speaker 2: You know, Kessie, he wanted it.

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Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure everybody did. I mean, I'm a I'm

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Speaker 6: a former Gopher. I wanted to see it.

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Speaker 3: I was laughing all week because I was pounding the

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Speaker 3: table and I still I believe this, But it was

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Speaker 3: just kind of the idea, if he's healthy, that was

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Speaker 3: the one caveat I put in, and I said, look,

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Speaker 3: he's healthy, JJ's got to play all the reps correct. Well,

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Speaker 3: then suddenly we get, you know, concussion terrorism.

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Speaker 2: Here we are. I I can't speak for you, Ron.

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Speaker 3: I didn't have immense expectations one way or the other.

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Speaker 3: I thought the undrafted kid was put being put in

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Speaker 3: an awful spot correct to make that start today, and.

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Speaker 2: Then it does.

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Speaker 3: It does feel like anytime it's a coin flip of

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Speaker 3: not choose to play, and and so you're you're working

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Speaker 3: I didn't think he was set up necessarily in the

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Speaker 3: Brozmer is going to be better. I'm sure there were

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Speaker 3: fleeting opinions out there in that regard. But in the end,

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Speaker 3: I didn't anticipate with all jokes aside, that Brozemer was

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Speaker 3: I mean, this was a tough defense on the road.

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Speaker 3: Everything stacked against Brosmer, and he responded in kind with

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Speaker 3: the four point two per attempt in the four picks today.

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Speaker 6: I just look at when you put Josh Dobbs on

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Speaker 6: a short week, you bring them in that offense was

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Speaker 6: extremely simple, right, yeah, extremely simple. I feel like Max Brosmer,

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Speaker 6: because he's been here for what eleven weeks, sat on

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Speaker 6: looking for a perennial like starter to do.

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Speaker 6: He's an undrafted free agent rookieuarterback. Even if you had

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Speaker 6: that I'm just saying as a rookie for his very

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna watch the All twenty two tomorrow Tuesday, that

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Speaker 6: he had a three step drop. There was no quick

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Speaker 6: game in there. JJ McCarthy hasn't had it either, though, right,

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Speaker 6: Like this offense is built to try to attack vertical.

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Speaker 6: You have the weapons to attack vertical. You don't have

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Speaker 6: the quarterbacks to attack vertical. You don't have the offensive

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Speaker 6: line to attack vertical. Right, the Seahawks have the offensive line,

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Speaker 6: they have the running game. That's why on first down

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Speaker 6: efficiency wise on first down, third down.

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Speaker 2: They don't face it a lot, you know.

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Speaker 6: Like I talked about that on the pregame show Me

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Speaker 6: and a Mad and Mark Rosen I did a whole

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Speaker 6: make a play and go ten yards right, seven yards

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Speaker 6: slant your receiver go. We don't do that, you know,

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Speaker 6: I don't know why the Vikings don't do that. Like

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Speaker 6: Justin Jefferson can run a slant better than anybody. I

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Speaker 6: don't know if anybody's done the math. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 6: spend my time, but I don't feel like he's run

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Speaker 6: a lot of slant routes this year now, Like it

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Speaker 6: just feels like everything is down the field, even the

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Speaker 6: interception on the scene right right, that's that's quarters.

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Speaker 2: You have to have a quarters beater. Four verticals.

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Speaker 6: Now, I don't know what the back two receivers are doing,

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Speaker 6: but two verticals to the side of the two guys

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Speaker 6: in quarters. You are not gonna win that battle. You're

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Speaker 6: not unless you attack the outside corner. But if the

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Speaker 6: is being pressured, he's gonna migrate. Insight, he's doing it.

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Speaker 6: He's backpelling watching number two. He has number one on

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Speaker 6: his butt and he's staring at number two.

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Speaker 2: It's quarters. You can't throw that.

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Speaker 6: So I don't know if Max didn't know that coverage

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Speaker 6: or if that's what he's being told to like, that's

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Speaker 6: gonna be where it's open run a like the It

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Speaker 6: could be a back shoulder or whatever. He could have

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Speaker 6: hit the back shoulder on the outside receive. Not again,

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Speaker 6: I don't know where the flat guy was because I'll

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Speaker 6: watch that back, but.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that should have been like some kind

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Speaker 6: Route on the outside at about twelve to fourteen yards,

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Speaker 6: let the quarter's corner fall off, or just run something

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Speaker 6: short that makes him stop. So now your seam is

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Speaker 6: versus the number two safety who's probably flat footed. Or

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Speaker 6: if you gonna attack quarters outside guy, run a post

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Speaker 6: inside guy, run a sit like we saw Jackson Smith

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Speaker 2: Like that, he just ran a post on quarters.

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Speaker 6: You make number one think, okay, I don't have anybody,

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Speaker 6: so I'm gonna let you go. You make number two

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Speaker 6: think I gotta stop the guy hooking up in front

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Speaker 6: of me, and you run a post over behind him.

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Speaker 6: But you got to have the offensive line for the

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Speaker 6: time to do that. But I like, I have that

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Speaker 6: play on my phone from Sam Darnold. I don't know

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Speaker 6: how much time Seattle gave him. But again, we're letting

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Speaker 6: guys run free at times, and neither quarterback has time.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know where the blame goes in this.

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Speaker 6: But I still don't understand why Justin Jefferson doesn't run

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Speaker 6: slat routes like he is one of the best receivers

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Speaker 2: Run a quick one step. Just give him the ball.

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Speaker 6: Like, why are we running down the field fifteen yards

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Speaker 6: with that offensive line asking a rookie who was not

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Speaker 2: Like we can blame Max.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a bad throw, that'sys, but it's also like

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Speaker 6: you know what he can do? You know, like you

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Speaker 6: do know that, Like you're not gonna put your ten

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna do that physically on the trigger, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you load it up.

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Speaker 6: You go grab that turkey, you put it on the trigger.

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Speaker 6: You CEIs in it, and it's easy. Just use my

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Speaker 6: app on my phone. Like the ten year old's gonna

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Speaker 2: You're gonna make it easy.

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Speaker 6: You're just gonna say, hey, the tragger's going when my

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Speaker 6: phone beats, come get me. That's what you tell your

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Speaker 6: ten year old to do.

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Speaker 3: I let them take the brush with the butter and

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Speaker 3: matter up the turst so they feel like they're helping,

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Speaker 3: but no, they don't physically operate exactly.

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Speaker 6: But that's that's like his first game. Make it like

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Speaker 3: So the football version of that is one step slant. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: here's here's a brush for butter.

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Speaker 6: Little five yard curl, ten yard curls like simple, like

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Speaker 6: he was killing it with the the hockins and stuff.

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Speaker 2: Hawkinson probably should have had. I would have just kept

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Speaker 6: Give him fifteen catches in the middle of the field,

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Speaker 6: just say, look, if you're gonna give me this, I'm

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Speaker 6: gonna take this. I'm gonna dink and dunk you down

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Speaker 6: the field. The patience level is not there. It's like

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Speaker 6: they cannot matriculate down the field. I think they have

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Speaker 6: the lowest number of ten play drives in the league

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Speaker 2: Just like it's it's patience.

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Speaker 3: All this is that That's been a multi year conversation though,

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Speaker 3: which I do want to expand on with you here.

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Speaker 2: CJ and sat All. CJ. Welcome to Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 7: Hey, thank you for taking my call. How are you

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Speaker 2: Doing well? What do you got.

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Speaker 7: Hey? I guess the you know. My take on it

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Speaker 7: is like we're running the Kirk Cousins drop back pass

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Speaker 7: let's do it like a double reverse, Let's do a

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Speaker 7: you know, five stop drop and getting killed is you know,

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Speaker 7: that's the reason we're four and seven. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 7: let's you know, you know what I mean. You know,

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Speaker 7: it's just unimaginable that we all spread out and we

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Speaker 7: we all just stand on the line and everybody figures

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate that, CJ.

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Speaker 3: And Yes, the lack of predictability right now, the lack

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Speaker 2: Yeah, many factors in that.

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Speaker 6: Hey, question for you though, Nordal so fairness in Millmac right, Fema,

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Speaker 2: Love Milm.

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Speaker 6: Shout out to Milm again. But she said she wasn't

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Speaker 6: So what are your thoughts on that?

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Speaker 5: Are you?

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Speaker 6: Is it McCarthy needs to just we need to play

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Speaker 6: like cause that's where she's She wasn't saying he should

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Speaker 6: You're not gonna win this one. Why is he still

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: No, Hey, First of all, all opinions are are good

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Speaker 2: So it's all love to mim and everybody here. Here's

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Speaker 3: And I'm not against that, right, I mean, you're you're

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Speaker 3: correct with what we were seeing sadly from JJ. Either

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Speaker 3: Either JJ and Max are two of the worst rookies

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Speaker 2: Either that's the case, which is.

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Speaker 3: A massive indictment of the decision makers that put these

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Or.

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Speaker 3: There is a problem with how they are being raised.

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Speaker 3: They are a problem. There's a problem with the position

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Speaker 3: he's never going to be a multi time all pro QB.

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Speaker 3: I hope he gets an opportunity to prove, prove differently,

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: But somewhere, somewhere in there is the answer, and all

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Speaker 3: And right now we're we're sitting here, whether it's on

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Speaker 3: JJ is terrible. H He's an absolute disaster. But in

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Speaker 3: the end, we're also sitting here going, I haven't seen

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Speaker 3: a slant. You do we do we mold the player

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: And that's why when Chaos says he feels like teams

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Speaker 6: when you realize they can't do it prophetic, When you

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Speaker 6: realize they can't do something, why force them to do it?

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Speaker 6: You know, like it's like letting your kid put on

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Speaker 2: And let's get it, what their baby? Why not?

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Speaker 6: And to their feet start hurting because they're like, wait,

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Speaker 6: But a modd Hicks, You know a lot of people

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Speaker 6: at what point do you realize six games for McCarthy

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Speaker 6: say if they're gonna make it, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like, so, anybody that thinks they have the final answer

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Speaker 2: Correct, you have to let them.

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Speaker 6: But and so to your point, though, when do you

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Speaker 6: they're not Tom Brady, they're not Drew Brees. Right now,

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Speaker 6: how do I simplify it and treat them like Josh

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Speaker 2: How do I make them the best I can make him?

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Speaker 2: Right now?

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Speaker 3: I don't even think we treated Josh Dobbs like Josh

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Speaker 2: Thing gradually got worse.

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Speaker 3: And where is actually the best moments of first got there,

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Speaker 2: He was running around the field blindfolded making people miss

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Speaker 6: Hawkins stores, yeah, past or not.

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Speaker 2: He was on ESPN's like sit down with like.

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Speaker 3: The top person, and then we tried to make him

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Speaker 2: I mean, he took the world by storm.

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Speaker 3: Hey, let's let's pause and then we're gonna come back

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Speaker 3: and continue this conversation. Uh, Vikings lost twenty six to

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Speaker 3: We know it's a non playoff operation. Defense played a

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Speaker 3: winning They absolutely made Sam Darnold's life hell today. If

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Speaker 3: Look up and down that defense from Jalen Redman today,

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Speaker 3: Dallas Turner Sackson three straight, some really really good things

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Speaker 3: continue to talk about that. It's Vikings fan line. I

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Speaker 3: got full phone lines, I got talkbacks I want to

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Speaker 3: jump into and this is Minnesota Vikings Football the sports follow.

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Speaker 8: The Leader Minnesota Sports Leader is FM one hundred point

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Speaker 3: The Fan, Welcome back Vikings fan line. Vikings embarrassed at

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Speaker 3: Luminfield today, twenty six nothing the final score. First time

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Speaker 3: in eighteen years the Vikings have been shut out in

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Speaker 2: How about the Talkbacks?

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Speaker 4: I hate this team.

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Speaker 9: I was born and raised in southeastern Minnesota, and I'll

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Speaker 9: always be a Vikings fan, but.

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Speaker 5: I just hate this team.

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Speaker 2: Good evening.

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Speaker 10: This lost fall squarely on management, the coaching staff and Quazy.

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Speaker 10: The lack of attention to a second string quarterback going

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Speaker 10: all in with McCarthy when clearly he was not ready

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Speaker 10: shows us where we're at. This was complete embarrassment, a

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Speaker 3: How the quietest keep the Talkbacks coming, Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: This offense is complete trash. There is no recovery.

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Speaker 9: I feel bad for Justin Jefferson as well as Jordan Addison.

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Speaker 9: They share up stuff if they can go to another team.

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Speaker 2: This is ridiculous. How bad?

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Speaker 9: How bad the GM messed up on the quarterback pick.

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Speaker 9: Our defense playing the best they can with what they got,

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Speaker 9: But our offense is complete.

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Speaker 3: I must say, you must have ran out of thirty

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Speaker 3: That's cool ed, northeast Ed. Welcome to Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 11: Hello, gentlemen. I loved Ron's analysis on where this team

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Speaker 11: we're down there after the turnover. At worst, we should

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Speaker 11: what's the difference between Koc and Zimmer they win in

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Speaker 11: lose the rest of the game. If we can get

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks, thanks for the call. I appreciate it. Uh

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Speaker 3: It's not good enough. Let's see what Max has well.

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Speaker 3: I guess I don't know. There's a little bit of

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Correct, It's a cute little thing they do in the preseason.

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Speaker 3: It gets to call a half. I think Flores has

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Speaker 3: Dave and Tennessee Dave, Welcome to Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 12: Hey, guys, I call once every couple years. I call

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Speaker 12: in Debrero once a year. I've called you guys in

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Speaker 12: Let me just say it again, this is worse than

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Speaker 12: I am completely disgusted and it's unwatchable. It's unlistenable. And

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Speaker 12: I've invested a lot of money in this team, and

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Speaker 12: I appreciate where y'all are in that area. You're working

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Speaker 12: There's been several coaches that have left this organization. They

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Speaker 12: should have been hired. Let me start with Tony Dungee.

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Speaker 12: Let me continue with Mike Tomlin. Don't forget about the

441
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Speaker 12: coach it's in with the Raiders now. I'm sorry. It

442
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Speaker 12: was in was in Seattle for an year. Yeah, that

443
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Speaker 12: won Super Bowl. Yeah, Pete Carroll there. So I'm just

444
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Speaker 12: going to say it. This team does not adjust. And

445
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Speaker 12: you guys have said this. I'm not you know, I'm sorry.

446
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Speaker 12: My voice is love, but I'm so upset they don't

447
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Speaker 12: adjust to their talent and to the scheme. What I

448
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Speaker 12: don't understand is that Brian uh, you know, our b

449
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Speaker 12: Flow does it every week to week. He comes home

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Speaker 12: a different strategy. So, guys, this is not ineptitude, this

451
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Speaker 12: is not I could not believe it again today on

452
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Speaker 12: fourth and one when we go ahead and we passed

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Speaker 12: the football there. I'm a knowledgeable sports guy. I played

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Speaker 12: college football as well. I know the game and I

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Speaker 12: know what i'm watching, and this is a great team

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Speaker 12: with great leadership and ownership. But I'm telling you that

457
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Speaker 12: this you can see it, and when something happens, they disintegrate. Defensively,

458
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Speaker 12: they're doing all they can. Of course, they can't tackle.

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Speaker 12: That's a problem which I've had a problem with all year.

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Speaker 12: But our head coach and eeveryda does with you guys

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Speaker 12: a couple of weeks ago, says that they're tackling. So

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Speaker 12: my point is he is not looking at the film.

463
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Speaker 12: Seattle is they looked at the film and said fourth

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Speaker 12: and one, we know exactly what they're going to do,

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Speaker 12: and we're gonna go ahead and run the play for

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Speaker 12: you guys. I just gotta be honest with you. Thank

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Speaker 12: you for letting me go on for a few moments.

468
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Speaker 12: I'm sorry that I'm upset, but I am embarrassed and

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Speaker 12: I am completely disappointed, and I just think that this

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Speaker 12: organization needs to figure out what they're gonna do. And

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Speaker 12: I'm not trying to sit here and say, fire people.

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Speaker 12: I'm not going to sit here and try to always

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Speaker 12: blame Let's not always blame Cracy.

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Speaker 5: Okay, these guys.

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Speaker 12: Are involved in his decision making.

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Speaker 7: They are because.

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Speaker 12: They're the head coach that's an expert, and they've got

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Speaker 12: Brian Flores on defense doing it. And so that is

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Speaker 12: my point. This is a collective overall collapse. I am

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Speaker 12: upset that he is so arrogant and so cocksuore and

481
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Speaker 12: so just emblazon on what he's gonna do. That he's

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Speaker 12: gonna do it no matter what. His press conference was listless,

483
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Speaker 12: and it's about time somebody starts asking him some questions

484
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Speaker 12: and pushing back on this because I'll tell you what, guys, Well,

485
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Speaker 12: we're facing here. We're facing a totally rebuild of this,

486
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Speaker 12: saying a year for now. It's not gonna I'm gonna

487
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Speaker 12: I'm gonna be objective guy. It's going to happen a

488
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Speaker 12: year for now. But if the Wills are listening to

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Speaker 12: this and nothing changes the next four weeks and these

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Speaker 12: things continue, then there need to be changes made immediately.

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Speaker 12: And I'm just disappointed. And when we had him in

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Speaker 12: the room, we didn't hire Horrball and don't tell me

493
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Speaker 12: that I'm a guy that's coming back on an armchair quarterback.

494
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Speaker 12: I've been disappointed with this guy for the last three years.

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Speaker 12: I didn't like what he did with Dobbs. He helped

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Speaker 12: him in a game, but when he needed to develop it,

497
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Speaker 12: he didn't develop it. Okay, and now they need these

498
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Speaker 12: decisions typically NFL. Rog's played in the NFL. When you

499
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Speaker 12: make a bad decision and you fail at the quarterback position,

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Speaker 12: did you get fired? You rebuild. He's lucky that he's

501
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Speaker 12: in the situation he's in right now. I appreciate you

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Speaker 12: guys letting me go on.

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Speaker 5: I just cannot.

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Speaker 12: This is the most embarrassed I have ever been as

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Speaker 12: as a misster the Vikings football fan. There's been a

506
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Speaker 12: lot of the expectations being so high. This has been terrible,

507
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Speaker 12: and I don't really see it getting any better. And

508
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Speaker 12: all of a sudden, you're gonna start losing some of

509
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Speaker 12: your talent that you're already wasting their years now of

510
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Speaker 12: their viability. And as far as Christian Darris is concerned,

511
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Speaker 12: get that straight play or sit down. You're hurting this franchise.

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Speaker 3: Oh call anytime, Dave. I do appreciate it. Not much

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Speaker 3: to analyze based on that. Thank you, Dave and tennessee

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Speaker 3: Stu in Las Vegas. Stu, Welcome to Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 13: Stu, who are you talking to?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 13: I have you?

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Speaker 2: I think you're in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 7: I mean my name is Dave?

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Speaker 6: Is Dave?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 3: Somebody wrote Stu on the call screener. Can can I

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Speaker 3: just for the sake of for the sake of the

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Speaker 3: next minute or so, can I just call you?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 2: What do you What do you got? My brother? What

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Speaker 2: do you think?

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Speaker 5: Hey? Damn man?

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Speaker 2: So your name is Dave Man? What do I call you? Stu?

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Speaker 13: That's okay, I'll get over it. You know, I remember boy,

531
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Speaker 13: So we'll just.

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Speaker 2: Go with that problem. What do you got man?

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Speaker 13: I just want to say that I'm really disappointed in

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Speaker 13: in the Biking's brain trust, and I'm really concerned that

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Speaker 13: we'll be irrelevant for years to come unless unless McCarthy

536
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Speaker 13: turns it around and starts to get it. We've wasted

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Speaker 13: all of our cap space, and I let drafts over

538
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Speaker 13: the last several years have been abysmal, and I'm just

539
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Speaker 13: concerned that even if we lose the rest of the games,

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Speaker 13: you get a good draft.

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Speaker 7: Spot and go blow it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I I appreciate that, Dave, not Stu.

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Speaker 2: I apologize.

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Speaker 3: Hope the seven oh two is treating you better than

545
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Speaker 3: it treated me the last time I was out there,

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Speaker 3: last time I was in Vegas. Speaking of Dobbs, I

547
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Speaker 3: had to watch that Raiders game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the long term, that's something that we're going to

550
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 3: have to dig into because the team's like thirty five

551
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 3: million over the cap next year, so decisions have to

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Speaker 3: be made.

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Speaker 2: I think arguments can be made.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe Eric Wilson was the best of the crop

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Speaker 3: in terms of the new faces to this roster this year. Defense,

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Speaker 3: not tackling, et cetera. I thought Dave and Tennessee basically

557
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 3: rattled off every potential issue that exists with the team

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Speaker 3: in sometimes concise fashion.

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Speaker 2: But we appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Let me hit you with this ron not concerns in

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Speaker 3: terms of this team, but maybe it's part of it.

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Speaker 3: This team potentially, you know, having some issues moving forward

563
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Speaker 3: as we're kind of we're kind of back to where

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Speaker 3: we were at the beginning of the regime, where we're

565
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Speaker 3: trying to pick up the pieces figure out what we

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Speaker 3: want from a roster, building standpoint. At one point it

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Speaker 3: was about drafting effectively, getting younger and getting more financially flexible.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have to see some of that taking place

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Speaker 3: this next spring. Alec Lewis, it was Max, said, Max

570
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Speaker 3: across the glass that told me this, left the locker room.

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Speaker 2: Without talking to reporters. Yeah, he was inactive. You don't

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Speaker 2: have to Justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I thought, he said, Oh jje I'm thinking, because Joe,

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Speaker 6: that's that's my bet.

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Speaker 3: My bet is Macarthy, No, it is, it is. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm never going to get that right.

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Speaker 2: My fault.

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Speaker 3: So Justin Jefferson, Justin Jefferson off to the locker room

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Speaker 3: without talking to reporters.

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Speaker 6: Hey, he's pissed off. Well, so my grandmother wants to saying,

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Speaker 6: if you don't have anything good to say, don't say

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Speaker 6: anything at all. Oh, wise woman.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, here's my question, because I've heard this a lot.

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Speaker 3: I love Justin Jefferson, there's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: But why.

586
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Speaker 3: I keep hearing with this quarterback situation, we're wasting his

587
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Speaker 3: prime years. We have to keep Justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 6: Happy, to keep Addison happy. Now, you can't keep either happy.

589
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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if Addison is I don't know

590
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 3: what makes Addison happy, to be honest with you, and

591
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Speaker 3: today a couple of drops, I can tell you they

592
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Speaker 3: did not make me happy. But whether it's free three

593
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Speaker 3: or it's number eighteen, I just the reason I bring

594
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Speaker 3: that up is if he's an emotional leader of this team,

595
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Speaker 3: if he's a driving force of keeping people's heads in

596
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Speaker 3: the game, and you start to lose his head, you know,

597
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Speaker 3: I frankly I'm not if we had kept Darnold and

598
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 3: the team won double digit games, but then you lose

599
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 3: in the wild card round, or you lose divisional et cetera.

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Speaker 3: In effect, you're still kind of wasting Justin Jefferson's prime years.

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Speaker 3: If that's how you're looking at it. It's just the

602
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 3: stat sheets are going to look a little bit better, right.

603
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Speaker 3: But I do think that when your leader starts to

604
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: get down, that becomes a problem that can spread well

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Speaker 3: beyond just him, Like, where's where's your head at on that?

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Speaker 3: In terms of just Justin Jefferson keeping him happy, how

607
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 3: much his emotional leadership might lead to good things or

608
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 3: bad things depending upon where he's at.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you gotta keep me happy, But what

610
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Speaker 2: does that look like?

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Speaker 6: And here's where I go with this, so Brock party, right,

612
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Speaker 6: Everybody keeps saying this could have been a Brock pretty game.

613
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Speaker 6: Didn't throw a lot of balls through twenty one balls

614
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Speaker 6: in his NFL debut, one hundred and eighty five yards.

615
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Speaker 6: Not a lot of yards right, Two touchdowns passer rating high.

616
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Speaker 6: Two rushing touchdowns as well. Why because the offense is

617
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 6: extremely simple. It's get the ball out quick, it's get

618
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Speaker 6: it to your tight ends.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of motions and shifts.

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Speaker 6: Again, I don't I can't even remember a lot of

621
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Speaker 6: shifts today. You know, there were a couple of motions

622
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Speaker 6: that luckily they didn't call it. But like on the

623
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Speaker 6: justin Jefferson was off the line of scrimmage and Hockinson

624
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Speaker 6: was motioning, there was nobody to the left side of

625
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Speaker 6: the field, opposite the outside the tight end.

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Speaker 2: There was little stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: So well, sometimes you see less of that on the road, though,

628
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Speaker 3: don't you What do you mean?

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Speaker 6: Less motion is shit because of the stre Here's the thing, though.

630
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Speaker 6: The shift has nothing to do with the silent count.

631
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Speaker 6: The shift is this, I'm coming to line of scrimmage.

632
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Speaker 2: With enough time to do it. And I'm just shifting

633
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: to help my quarterback.

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Speaker 6: See if everybody flips, there is some type of man

635
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Speaker 6: if nobody to do it though, And that's that again today,

636
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 6: that's a different conversation too, changed a little.

637
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Speaker 2: First, what was it the first uh the.

638
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 3: Fourth down play they got out of the huddle with

639
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: like nine seconds left and the first uh false start?

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Speaker 6: Nobody moved the center just didn't grab the ball, and

641
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 6: you have to pause. I think what I mean it

642
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 6: is a half a second or second. You have to

643
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Speaker 6: pause for a second. He came up, grabbed the ball

644
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Speaker 6: and just threw it back, so like little stuff like that,

645
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Speaker 6: like there were no procedural penalties up until that point.

646
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Speaker 6: And then he just snaps the ball without even coming

647
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 6: set because nobody moved. I was looking. I rewounded three times.

648
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 6: I'm like, nobody jumped. And then I'm like, oh.

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Speaker 2: Crap, he didn't wait.

650
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 6: You gotta wait for a second and let the ref say, Okay,

651
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 6: he has the ball, he set. Now he snaps. He

652
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 6: can't just come up grab and snap it. So again

653
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 6: on the road, yep. But again the forty nine or

654
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 6: don't change their offense home and road. They steal shift,

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Speaker 6: they steal motion. It could be a siling count, which

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Speaker 6: is between the center and the quarterback the right guard

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Speaker 6: if that's your smartest guard. But again you got Jonathan Jackson,

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Speaker 6: so maybe you want to go with Fries on the left,

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Speaker 6: but your guard like the Eagles, because we got pissed

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Speaker 6: off about the Eagles. Remember their guard never comes set. Yep,

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Speaker 6: he moves and moves and moves because he's the guy

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Speaker 6: letting them know on the road it's okay to snap

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Speaker 6: the ball. Again, it's a copycat league. Sometimes you want

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Speaker 6: to do some of that stuff. Now we could say

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Speaker 6: they simplify it. They didn't want to put all that motion

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Speaker 6: and shift in there for Max Brosmer maybe, like I

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Speaker 6: don't know if anybody asks that question. If you're helping

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Speaker 6: Maxie the coverage, if you're helping Maxie, if his man's own,

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Speaker 6: like what is Max being taught? But if you want

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Speaker 6: to keep justin Jefferson happy, throw him seven hitches, throw

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Speaker 6: him four slants.

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Speaker 2: Just get him the ball, even if it's first down.

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Speaker 2: Just let him get five yards.

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Speaker 6: Second down, let him get four yards, third and one

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Speaker 6: run the ball. You might have to do that nine times.

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Speaker 6: Who cares, it's gonna take time you took time.

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Speaker 2: Off the clock.

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Speaker 6: You guys getting the ball, and you're not putting your

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Speaker 6: offensive line in a tough predicament and you're not punting

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Speaker 6: on three and out. So again it sounds simple, and

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Speaker 6: like we saw.

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Speaker 2: Harrison Smith and then it got to be simple for

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Speaker 2: Harrison Smith knocked down the ball.

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Speaker 6: Dallas Turner knocked down the ball because said Darnold was

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Speaker 6: trying to do the same thing. But what happened. Seahawks

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Speaker 6: don't go away from it. They eventually said, like, pump it,

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Speaker 6: let Van Ginko run by you and then throw it

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Speaker 6: underneath him because they're gonna jump on the first pump.

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Speaker 6: They start getting the Vikings with that. You saw Jayalen

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Speaker 6: Redman jump up. Then he threw it when Jayala Redman

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Speaker 6: was coming down. Like little stuff like that's how you

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Speaker 6: keep Justin Jefferson happy. You have to do that, even

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Speaker 6: if it's a bubble screen. Get him the ball like

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Speaker 6: he had was six six targets, four catches, two yards

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Speaker 6: or something like that.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy. It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: It truly is crazy. Oh my goodness, that's Ron Johnson.

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Speaker 2: I'm Nordo. Max Fuller's here.

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Speaker 3: Vikings fan line Vikings absolutely throttled by the Seahawks today,

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Speaker 3: never stood a chance, shut out for the first time

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Speaker 3: in eighteen years. It was all ugly at Lumanfield today

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Speaker 3: save for a winning defensive effort. Once again, very lopsided,

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Speaker 3: non complimentary situation we have here with our favorite football team.

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Speaker 3: You're calls and talkbacks. Next, this is Minnesota Vikings football.

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Speaker 14: This is Vikings football on FM one hundred point three

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Speaker 14: kfas head Get this now stream live to Minnesota residence

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Speaker 14: on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 15: Start with getting rid of Quasi and Grigson. You got

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Speaker 15: to rebuild that whole scouting staff. It's been garbage. And

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Speaker 15: I say that because their drafts have been garbage. It's

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Speaker 15: well documented. All you got to do is look at

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Speaker 15: all the injuries. The injuries happened to every team. But

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Speaker 15: guess what when you don't draft suitable backups that are

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Speaker 15: developing behind starters, this is the problem you get into.

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Speaker 15: Second thing is is Kaos has got to give up

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Speaker 15: play calling goods. You gotta find a guy that can

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Speaker 15: run his offense the way he wants it run, but

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Speaker 15: he is not talented enough to run it in game.

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Speaker 3: Talkback machine, it's Vikings fan line Vikings lose twenty six

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Speaker 3: nothing to the Seattle Seahawks at Lumenfield. It was a disastrous,

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Speaker 3: non competitive affair by your favorite football team who fall

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Speaker 3: to four and eight.

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Speaker 2: Totally big gang. Hey Dan from Robbinsdale.

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Speaker 8: I I was really hoping for some excitement today.

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Speaker 2: We didn't get that. Ummm, I don't know. Just looking

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Speaker 2: for a reason to keep watching, Okay, Jalen Redmondson, I

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Speaker 2: don't know. Okay, I go for another drink though. I

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Speaker 2: love you guys, We love you. Talkback machine.

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Speaker 16: When are you guys gonna quit saying Kevin O'Connell's a

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Speaker 16: quarterback whisper.

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Speaker 2: He's not.

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Speaker 16: The Rams did not win a Super Bowl because of

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Speaker 16: Kevin O'Connell. They won it because Stafford's a first ballot

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Speaker 16: Hall of Famer. If anybody is a quarterback whisper, it's Sean.

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Speaker 16: Look at what he's done with bow Nicks. Look at

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Speaker 16: what he did for Drew Brees' career.

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Speaker 2: Oh I mentioned Sean Payton. Oh we're getting Sean Payton references.

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Speaker 3: Yes, McVeigh needed Matthew Stafford to run his offense to

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Speaker 3: the highest of its capabilities. Interesting, Ben in Alabama, Ben,

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Speaker 3: welcome to Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, I know a lot of heat's getting put

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Speaker 5: on Quincy tonight, and we need to put it on them.

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Speaker 5: This offense is terrible. I can't believe people are talking

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Speaker 5: about AOC tonight. Are you kidding me? This is cracy.

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Speaker 5: It's not even Donald or Daniel Jones. It's really about

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Speaker 5: his incompetence. You know, I called a couple of weeks

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Speaker 5: ago and we talked about how we signed so many

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Speaker 5: players over the age of thirty and them not producing.

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Speaker 5: But you don't sign players to pre agency to fix

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Speaker 5: your team. You need to fix your team by actually drafting. Well,

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Speaker 5: we have the best coach that well, we have the

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Speaker 5: best I think we're the best keep ups coach in

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Speaker 5: the NFL, and we have a top five offensive coach.

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Speaker 5: These these Minnesota uh you know, fans that think they're

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Speaker 5: actually fans of the team need to shut up. We

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Speaker 5: have KOC. The top five is they can't play with

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Speaker 5: the players that has brought in. I can't wait to

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Speaker 5: hear what you guys got to say about the worst

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Speaker 5: GM in the NFL. Thanks guys, love you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: A lot of love going on is Thanksgiving week and

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Speaker 3: much to be thankful for I'm thankful for all the

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Speaker 3: listeners of Vikings fan line and the fan nine to

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Speaker 3: noon tomorrow and to figure out what what the sad

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Speaker 3: montage song is going to be the only thing I

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Speaker 3: would say again, you know Ron talking about this, I

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Speaker 3: mentioned this, you know, a couple months ago. It's like

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Speaker 3: it's October, any time to start talking about the GM

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Speaker 3: and going back in time. Things we can't change and

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Speaker 3: things that are definitely well. This is where the team

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Speaker 3: put themselves. Ron at four and eight and now from

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Speaker 3: from JJ to Carson WENTZ back to JJ. Didn't look good,

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Speaker 3: Head Hurts put in Max to where we are at

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Speaker 3: this moment. Uh, this this has just been a roller

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Speaker 3: coaster ride to hell and the and the talkability of

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Speaker 3: decision making, the talkability of injuries with backups that that

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Speaker 3: frankly just aren't they're not they're not coming backup's not coming,

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Speaker 3: you know, no help on the horizon here, I.

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Speaker 6: Mean unless you mean like the Avengers, right, Captain America,

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Speaker 6: it's all as lost thanels.

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Speaker 2: It's about to kill him.

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Speaker 6: And then all of a sudden, doctor Strange's vision came true.

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Speaker 6: Everybody came back. After the Hawks snapped his fingers. Nobody's

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Speaker 6: snapping their fingers. I don't think nobody's getting the stones.

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Speaker 6: Nobody snapping their fingers, you know. So this is not

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Speaker 6: the marvel. Yeah, they're not all coming back. Like it's

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Speaker 6: like you're not gonna have Kirk Cousins walk back in

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Speaker 6: the building, you know, and save it, because I know

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Speaker 6: people are saying that, like, oh, they should have traded

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Speaker 6: for Kirk Cousins when you know, what's his name, Michael

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Speaker 6: Pennix was named the starter. Well, now Kirk is going

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Speaker 6: to play for a while with them, because Pennix's knee

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Speaker 6: looks like it's long term out.

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Speaker 2: But one thing I'll say to it first though, I

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Speaker 2: do want to say so Purple.

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Speaker 6: Purple list submissed purpleless submiss I don't even know what

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Speaker 6: his name is, but he said the fairline is cathartic, right,

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Speaker 6: So I had to look that up.

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Speaker 2: Providing psychological relief.

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Speaker 6: Through open expression of strong emotions cathartic therapeutic. Yeah, we

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Speaker 6: so I will say, no, No, you were doing a

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Speaker 6: great job clearly getting people's psychological inn thiss out there.

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Speaker 6: A couple of people have said, like, how do I

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Speaker 6: continue to cheer for this team? You know, we keep

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Speaker 6: seeing that come up. How do I continue to be interested? Well,

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Speaker 6: this is it's it's it's it's not gonna get any worse.

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Speaker 6: I don't think right. Four picks, no touchdowns, scoreless since

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Speaker 6: two thousand.

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Speaker 2: Was twenty eighteen, is what it was.

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Speaker 6: That was last time they were scoreless seven in eighteen years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, two thousands worse than you thought.

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Speaker 5: That is?

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Speaker 2: That is bad seven?

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Speaker 3: It was I can't remember who got hurt the seven season,

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Speaker 3: but Brooks Bollinger had come in during the Chargers game.

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Speaker 3: That was the Adrian two ninety six game. Oh and

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Speaker 3: then the next week was a border battle. I think

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Speaker 3: they lost thirty four off from that game.

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Speaker 6: But Brooks Bollinger was with the quarterback. Yeah, what a

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Speaker 6: trivia question there went for a buck? Seven was the

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Speaker 6: quarterback the last time the Vicers was scoreless, Bruce Bollinger.

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Speaker 6: Who would have known that? Somehow we come back to

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Speaker 6: the Badgers. Yeah, in the family. They got the ax

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Speaker 6: they got I mean that's the one thing Max can

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Speaker 6: kind of rest his shoulders on. The ax is back

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Speaker 6: in Minnesota. But yeah, I mean people say, what do

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Speaker 6: you what do you want to cheer for?

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Speaker 2: Like cheer for.

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Speaker 6: At some point, the offense has to get simpler, pulse like,

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Speaker 6: you can't.

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Speaker 2: You can't keep doing the same deep balls.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, expecting these quarterbacks to make layered throws because they

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Speaker 6: are not making them, They're selling them high. Some of

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Speaker 6: the throws that Max through out the bounds are so

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Speaker 6: simple they were out routes.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 6: So that throw, you know, like, is his neurological pathway

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Speaker 6: has been too messed with?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 2: Does he own dogs?

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Speaker 3: Does he not get the opportunity for an extra ten

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Speaker 3: reps when he takes the dogs for a walk.

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Speaker 2: These are all questions we must ask.

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Speaker 3: I'd say root for the nerves, though from Max it

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Speaker 3: was nerves for sure, for the team because you love

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Speaker 3: the team.

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Speaker 2: Root for the team because you love the team. Defense

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Speaker 2: is awesome.

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Speaker 3: I'll let you the defense. The defense is still making plays.

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Speaker 3: Can't tackle to save their lives. Isaiah Rodgers on earlier today,

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Speaker 3: are you freaking kidding?

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Speaker 6: Me? And my brother Isaiah Rodgers tweeted it too. He said,

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Speaker 6: I got to his tweet. Man, I'm sorry, Vikings Nation.

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Speaker 6: You know I'm paraphrasing. I gotta be better. I will

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Speaker 6: make those tackles. Yeah, you know, so he doesn't need

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Speaker 6: to apologize. It's all good.

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Speaker 3: Root for the team because you love it. I just

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Speaker 3: wanted to and then we'll pause. Uh Ben and Alabama

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Speaker 3: calling and talking about Quacy. The issue that I have

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Speaker 3: with this conversation as we move forward, and it's going

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Speaker 3: to get hotter, and frankly it should because your four

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Speaker 3: and eight team is a wreck. I would ask the

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Speaker 3: average that the average person that's listening, just think about

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Speaker 3: how this team is constructed. You hear words like collaboration,

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Speaker 3: the cascading of knowledge and information. How many decisions has

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Speaker 3: the general manager made since becoming the general manager of

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Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings? How many decisions has that person made

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Speaker 3: on their own in his own room, without the input

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Speaker 3: or the thumbs up an agreement from other individuals?

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 13: Ron?

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Speaker 3: Or we're just we're pounding. This guy's got to go.

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Speaker 3: This guy's the worst. This guy is terrible. And the

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Speaker 3: drafts have been the drafts have been speaking to that.

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Speaker 2: Dallas Turner did have a day.

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Speaker 6: He's coming around. He might be found a second move.

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Speaker 6: If you notice that sack, he engaged and then he ripped.

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Speaker 6: I just he dipped a ripped after the engage.

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Speaker 3: I would just ask Ben, and I would ask anybody else,

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Speaker 3: just you're down on Quacy right now, and when your

881
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 3: team's four and eight and you're thinking about free agent

882
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 3: acquisitions that haven't worked out, Ryan Kelly and.

883
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Speaker 2: The concussion issues that he had.

884
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Speaker 3: He comes back, he's got the giant, the big head

885
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: thing going on. I forget what it's called the guardian cap.

886
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 3: There we go, and then he leaves with a hip

887
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 3: flexer today. Things like that, garisaw again fifty to fifty.

888
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 3: Actually it's more like twenty eighty. He's not going to play.

889
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 3: The health issues, the defensive line side of things. Javon

890
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 3: Hargrave almost feels like he's stealing money at this point.

891
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 3: All the things that haven't worked out, you are absolutely

892
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 3: valid and critiquing and scrutinizing those things. I'm just the

893
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 3: only thing I would ask is just if you think

894
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 3: about it for a second, you just go is Quacy

895
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 3: just choosing all of this on his own and the

896
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 3: rest of the organization are just passengers on Quasey's ride.

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Speaker 2: I'd just like you to think about that. We'll continue

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Speaker 2: on here. Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 3: It's eight hundred three two zero five, three, two six

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Speaker 3: twenty six nothing to the Seattle Seahawks at Lumen Field. Today,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna continue Vikings fan line on Kfan and the

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Speaker 12: Home for all things for a ball.

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Speaker 8: Yes, FM one hundred point three Kfan the Fan.

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Speaker 17: Hey, guys, uh, I used to love KOC. Now I

907
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Speaker 17: have some serious doubts. It has been proven that unless

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Speaker 17: he has someone that's already started in the league who's

909
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Speaker 17: a medium to above average to run his complex offense,

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Speaker 17: he can't win and he can't read a room with

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Speaker 17: new quarterbacks. He his ego is too big for his

912
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Speaker 17: play calling. Run the ball, throw some screens.

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Speaker 18: My god, Christopher East Saint.

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Speaker 19: Paul here saying to any of these new developing quarterbacks,

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Speaker 19: sunny favors with the game calling, the end game decisions.

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Speaker 19: We should have kicked a field goal rather than go

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Speaker 19: for it on fourth and one.

918
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 18: And he threw up a gimmea touchdown to the other

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Speaker 18: team to okay, Hey, that should never happen as a

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Speaker 18: professional team, and that comes down to coaching and an administration.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: I thought that was going to build up to like

923
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 6: he's gonna drop the bomb or something.

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00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 3: God, I almost want to go online and find the

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Speaker 3: the next line of one of those songs bring the action.

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Speaker 2: I was literally thought he was about to drop something.

927
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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 8: I was to say that Max Brosmer was put in

929
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Speaker 8: a difficult position today doesn't do it justice.

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Speaker 2: I just don't really understand.

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Speaker 8: Is it the height of arrogance a god complex that

932
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Speaker 8: you think that with with the holes on the offensive line,

933
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 8: the game plan that was just utterly lacking an attempt

934
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Speaker 8: to run. It's fitting that Frankenstein is back in theaters

935
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 8: because we got our own Doctor Frankenstein and Igor in

936
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Speaker 8: the front office, and it's an equally terrifying monster right now.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for the Talkbacks Vikings fan line. Vikings lose twenty

938
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Speaker 3: six to nothing into the Seahawks first first shutout Vikings

939
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Speaker 3: offense in eighteen years. Ron just learning that on air

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Speaker 3: last segment, Flabbergasted by the entire thing I have to

941
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Speaker 3: our conversation La last segment about see this.

942
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Speaker 2: Is where you get.

943
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 3: We speak so confidently before games are played, sometimes or

944
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Speaker 3: in great moments, knowing that many many more moments good

945
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 3: or bad to follow JJ McCarthy the nine thing that

946
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 3: I'm just hoping that he has a career long enough

947
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 3: to outlive that. But I saw this from Kevin Seaffert

948
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 3: this morning. So Quasi not making decisions on his own. Yeah,

949
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 3: blah blah blahlah Nordo's Die trib last segment vikings GM.

950
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Speaker 3: This is from Kevin Seffert, who was quoting from Adam

951
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 3: Schefter and a storyline Vikings GM.

952
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: Quaisia del Fa Mensa.

953
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 3: Lobbied to get Max Brosmer an invite to the twenty

954
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 3: twenty five Combine at PJ Flex's request, and later was

955
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 3: overheard saying that he kind of wished he hadn't ron

956
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,919
Speaker 3: because then Brosmer.

957
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 2: Could have been the Viking secret Secret's out now secrets

958
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 2: out secret.

959
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 3: The way that we talk about things sometimes my goodness.

960
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: I love confidence, but my goodness.

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Speaker 6: So here's the thing about Max, right, we saw him

962
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 6: when he was coached a certain way by Harbo right

963
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,479
Speaker 6: at the University of Minnesota. Harbo when you watch Drake

964
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 6: lindsay right, watch him in the snow Verse Wisconsin.

965
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: What did they do the first seven plays? I think

966
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: they ran the ball.

967
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 6: No, they went quick game, oh quick hurry up out routes,

968
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 6: quick dump off to the running backs. And then they

969
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 6: came back and ran the ball right because they forced

970
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 6: Wisconsin to be like, oh crap, this dude can throw

971
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Speaker 6: the ball in the snow.

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Speaker 2: By the way, my laughter is not an indictment of

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Speaker 2: Max Brosmer. I do, and I appreciate it.

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00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 3: The imagery of Frankenstein there, because he was put.

975
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 2: In about image in there in the in the chat.

976
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 3: About as about as terrible as spot as you can

977
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Speaker 3: put an undrafted cat in.

978
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 6: It should have been it should have been quick, It

979
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 6: should have been spread. If you're gonna throw, go four wide,

980
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 6: spread it out. You got justin Jefferson, just Jalen Naylor,

981
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 6: Jordan Nasen, and TJ.

982
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 2: Hockinson. Go four wide.

983
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 6: You're not using your fullback right, you're not going two

984
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 6: tights and going twelve personnel.

985
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 2: So then use those three receivers with.

986
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 6: That tight end that is six five. Spread them out

987
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 6: and see if they play you man. If they do

988
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 6: run quick game right, run a slant and run a

989
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 6: flat route.

990
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: The flat route will be open in man, the slant

991
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 2: will be open in man.

992
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 6: In zone, the slant can sit behind in that little

993
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 6: spot and then you just like you play that game.

994
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 6: I just don't understand why there's a lack of that

995
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 6: with these young quarterbacks. Like, let them remember always you

996
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 6: should joke about that, Lather them up first, let them.

997
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 2: Make a couple of easy throws before you ask.

998
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 6: Them to throw the ball down the field. I'm with you,

999
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 6: you got it. Like, if you're gonna have chili you

1000
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 6: have to let us in the crock pot for a while.

1001
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 6: You don't just put in the microwaven nuke it.

1002
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 3: Am I wrong for not liking chili, by the way,

1003
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 3: yes you are. It's the wintertime only without beans. Though

1004
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 3: beans are awful, beans are disgusting me. Beans are the

1005
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 3: fruit of the earth. Yeah, the magical fruit. And you

1006
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 3: can you can have them. You can have them. And yeah,

1007
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 3: I guess I'll just eat Yeah, meat and sauce and onions.

1008
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: I love a good chili, some tomatoes, good chili in

1009
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 2: the wintertime. The crockpot. It takes time. It does take time.

1010
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 3: Uh, And we thank you for taking the time to

1011
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 3: listen to Vikings fan line. We're gonna continue on as

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00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 3: a matter of but we're gonna do so on our

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Speaker 3: and the Vikings Audio Network cheers. I hope you out

1015
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 3: a terrific Thanksgiving weekend despite the twenty six nothing just

1016
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 3: beat down that your Vikings took at the hands of

1017
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 3: the Seattle Seahawks.

1018
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 2: Today they're four and eight, there's five games to go.

1019
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Speaker 3: Next up, the Washington Commanders are in town, so for

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Speaker 3: US eleven AM. This upcoming Sunday Vikings hosting maybe Jaden

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Speaker 2: Eric norton Quist.

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00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 3: Vikings crushed at Luminfield twenty six nothing, the first time

1044
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 3: in eighteen years the Vikings have been shut out two

1045
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 3: thousand and seven, the last time the Vikings posted a

1046
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 3: goose egg in a game. And that's the kind of

1047
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 3: way that the day felt, the week has felt, the

1048
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 3: months have felt, the season has felt. For your four

1049
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Speaker 3: and eight Minnesota Vikings IMNRDO from nine to noon and

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Speaker 3: Ron Johnson is here, talkbacks, calls, a few short segments

1051
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 3: and then I think we're going to jump into the howl.

1052
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 3: The Wolves at home hosting the Spurs a couple minutes

1053
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 3: left in the third quarter, Spurs with a seven point lead,

1054
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 3: ant with the ball working his way up the court

1055
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 3: a pick by nas trying to work his way inside.

1056
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Speaker 3: Here's Anthony Edwards. Oh the fish at the rim, Oh

1057
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 3: spurs by five? Trust me, I'll never do play by

1058
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Speaker 3: play to the talkback machine.

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Speaker 20: Hey guys, Riley from Worthington here man. After listening to

1060
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 20: the fan line, the only thing left to do is

1061
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 20: go home and drink myself to sleep. A lot of

1062
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 20: negativity tonight. I want to know your thoughts on what's

1063
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 20: next from here? No playoffs? I mean my thoughts. Are

1064
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 20: you let McCarthy play, let him learn and reevalue it

1065
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 20: at the end of the year.

1066
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 2: What do you guys think we'd make out of this mess?

1067
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 2: Thanks for taking my talk back. Go Vikings. Hand me

1068
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 2: a bush light.

1069
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 3: Bush Light, it's for the bush light. We were talking

1070
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 3: about the banquet beer with Abbott.

1071
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: Before we got on there. Oh, fantastic stuff.

1072
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Speaker 3: Anyway, Ron, what do you think I look at A

1073
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 3: topics still remains that you need to know whether you

1074
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 3: might have something a pulse at the quarterback spot into

1075
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 3: the off season.

1076
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: I still believe that's an a.

1077
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 6: Topic right at this point four and eight, so they're

1078
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 6: still in the bubble. It's not over yet. Less than

1079
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 6: one percent chance so they're still in this.

1080
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:49,240
Speaker 2: They haven't.

1081
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Speaker 6: They haven't entered Cardinals, Saints and Giants territory just yet

1082
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 6: eliminated already here we go week twelve. So still a chance, right,

1083
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 6: there's always a chance. Miracles have happened. We've seen case

1084
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 6: Keenum pull it off, right, But yeah, you got to

1085
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,439
Speaker 6: see what Jay McCarthy has at this point.

1086
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Speaker 2: Like, I love the Max bros Hanging there, I just

1087
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Speaker 2: know I'm I.

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Speaker 3: Can't like you don't like the less than one percent chance? Oh,

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Speaker 3: I I appreciate your optimism.

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Speaker 6: I've just given the fans the stats that I'm reading

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Speaker 6: on the NFL websiteminated, eliminated yet.

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Speaker 2: But when you think of and they, you know it says,

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Speaker 2: I don't believe they control their own destiny yet do that?

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00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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Speaker 6: But when you look at the way this season is gone,

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00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 6: you have to know who you have going into the

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00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 6: offseason because you have to make a decision now because

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00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 6: there's gonna be a lot of quarterbacks on the market

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Speaker 6: that you could potentially go after and maybe have to

1100
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Speaker 6: pay a little bit to come in and compete. There's

1101
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 6: gonna be some guys that don't have an opportunity do

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00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 6: you bring Carson I mean like, after Carson Wentz gets

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00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 6: put back together, speaking of franking sign, like is he

1104
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 6: going to be healthy enough to even come back? Do

1105
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 6: you bring him back in the off season to compete

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00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 6: for the job. Clearly he had something going at times,

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00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 6: but that was on a short turn of like, JAJ McCarthy,

1108
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 6: don't think he has it. We got to bring somebody

1109
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 6: in to get this going. It was Carson Wentz. Sorry,

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Speaker 6: bring somebody in to be the backup. End up being

1111
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Speaker 6: Carson Wentz, and then he got thrown into the starting

1112
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Speaker 6: position when JJ McCarthy got hurt. But what do you

1113
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 6: see that you think this is the future of the

1114
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Speaker 6: team in six games?

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Speaker 2: You haven't seen it.

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Speaker 6: So to everybody saying that that says like we can't

1117
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 6: just give up on them, You're right, you can't. You

1118
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 6: have to let him play these last games out and

1119
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 6: if it is bad all the way to the end,

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Speaker 6: then you have to go as a coach like, this

1121
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Speaker 6: is not our job.

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00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 2: Our job is not to like.

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Speaker 6: As an owner, as a GM, as a coach, it's

1124
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Speaker 6: not our job to decide who they should keep who

1125
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 6: they shouldn't.

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00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 2: Right, that's what they get paid to do right.

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Speaker 6: Keenan McCardell will watch the film and he'll say, are

1128
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Speaker 6: my receivers running the routes? Are we getting separation? Is

1129
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 6: everybody doing they're supposed to do? The offensive line coach

1130
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 6: has to say, well, with two fifths of the offensive

1131
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 6: line healthy, is Brian O'Neill and Fries.

1132
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Speaker 2: Oh he'll ride those injuries. That It'll be part of

1133
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 2: the exit interview for sure.

1134
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Speaker 6: Is my right two guys doing what they're supposed to

1135
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 6: do because I was left three. I don't even know

1136
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 6: if those guys are gonna be on the team next year,

1137
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 6: you know, Darris saw and Donovan Jackson, Like, you're probably

1138
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 6: gonna need a new center. You know, it doesn't look

1139
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 6: like he's gonna be able to go anymore for the

1140
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 6: most part, like full time. You knew what you were

1141
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 6: getting when you bought him in and you got it,

1142
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 6: Like he's just not healthy enough to go. Who's your

1143
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 6: center coming in next year? Is there a potential draft

1144
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 6: pick early in the draft to go get a center?

1145
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 6: And then from a quarterback perspective, is my quarterback doing

1146
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 6: what I'm asking that?

1147
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 2: Can I work with that? Does he need to be

1148
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 2: up here? The entire Offseatson.

1149
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,439
Speaker 6: Do I need to fly out to wherever he's at

1150
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 6: to work out and help him out? And do I

1151
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 6: get Max Brozman and Justin Jefferson together? How do I

1152
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 6: keep Justin Jefferson and Jordan asn't happy? You know, that's

1153
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 6: the other side of this. Keen mccarthin is probably on

1154
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 6: like don't leave the state watch right now with his players, like, hey,

1155
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 6: where you guys at.

1156
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 3: I simultaneously, I simultaneously get it, like I'm split. I

1157
00:56:58,400 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 3: don't like to sit on the fence, but I kind

1158
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 3: of there's part of me that says, Justin Jefferson, We've

1159
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 3: actually done everything over the course of your career to

1160
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 3: keep you happy, right and you're paid a fair dollar.

1161
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Speaker 2: Don't leave us right now.

1162
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Speaker 3: So emotion of the game, I'm not I'm not mad

1163
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 3: at him at all for being frustrated after what we

1164
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 3: watch today and leaving and not talking.

1165
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 2: I don't care about all that.

1166
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Speaker 3: That's fine, and I think Jefferson has comported himself to

1167
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 3: the highest level throughout his time here. That's where I

1168
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 3: just kind of take umbrage with the idea, like, ma,

1169
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 3: we got to worry how Justin Jefferson's feeling well, I

1170
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 3: think everybody's feeling like crap after losing twenty six nothing

1171
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 3: and being four and eight and having to go through

1172
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 3: the issues that they've had, you know what I mean.

1173
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, I want Justin Jefferson to be happy,

1174
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 3: and it is, you know, despite it's a merit based situation,

1175
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 3: highest of the high end player on your team. We

1176
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 3: need to make sure he's feeling good about everything and

1177
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 3: we put him in the best spots to win. So

1178
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 3: we do need to solve the QB spot. But I'm

1179
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 3: not trying to solve it for the sake of number eighteen.

1180
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 3: I'm trying to solve it so I never have to

1181
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 3: watch what I watched for three hours today, right, because

1182
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 3: I got fifty three people that are unhappy, right that

1183
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 3: that actually means as much to me as the singular

1184
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 3: of a Jefferson and Addison, you know what I mean.

1185
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 2: And here's the key to that.

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Speaker 6: When you when you think about where everybody's at as

1187
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 6: a as a whole, right, throw them twe slants a

1188
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 6: game I'm in exactly right, So.

1189
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Speaker 2: Then he's happy.

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00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 3: The quarterback can kind of just ease his way in

1191
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 3: little baby stacks.

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Speaker 6: If you're gonna take shots every once in a while, sure,

1193
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 6: but come down on there. Like JJ McCarthy when we

1194
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 6: talked about that, right, he was one of the top

1195
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 6: aggressiveness quarterbacks in the league through six games.

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00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 2: Like he shouldn't be, Like he should not be that.

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Speaker 6: He should not be one of the most aggressive quarterbacks

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Speaker 6: unless the players are being completed.

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Speaker 2: They're not.

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Speaker 6: So let's let's let's dial back the aggressiveness. Let's maybe

1201
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Speaker 6: turn up the simplisticness of an offense. I don't know

1202
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 6: if that's a word, but I'm gonna roll with it.

1203
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 6: I've never corrected you before a round. I'm not gonna start.

1204
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Speaker 6: But because you know how the Twitter people are, they

1205
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 6: that's not a work. But you have to understand how

1206
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 6: to make it simple for him. Yeah, and that's that's

1207
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 6: the only thing I think about, is like if I'm if,

1208
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 6: I'm if I'm the coach and I got Jason McCarthy,

1209
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 6: I see he's struggling with a lot of the stuff

1210
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 6: I'm throwing at him. I'm gonna taking off his plate.

1211
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 6: I'm gonna just slow it down for him. And again,

1212
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 6: if you slow it down, then maybe that becomes your

1213
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 6: offense next year.

1214
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: That's a slower, simpler offense.

1215
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Speaker 12: I like it.

1216
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Speaker 2: That's Ron Johnson. I'm Nordo.

1217
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Speaker 3: A couple segments of fan line to go. We'll be

1218
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 3: back right here on the fan. Welcome back to Vikings

1219
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 3: fan line. I wish you know our local Chevy dealers.

1220
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 3: I love our local Chevy dealers, great partners, the Vikings

1221
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 3: fan line. I don't have a Drive of the day

1222
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 3: today because our team didn't score any points. I kind

1223
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 3: of like the possession the Vikings had before Max Brosmer

1224
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 3: threw a pick six, so I like that drive. It

1225
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 3: was a nice drive drive of the day perhaps for

1226
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 3: our local Chevy dealers. Thank you to all of our

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00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 3: local Chevy dealers.

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Speaker 6: Ron.

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Speaker 2: Is this the bottom? Can this be the bottom? This

1230
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 2: is not the bottom, it's the bottom.

1231
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 6: Four interceptions ninety yards passing, like that's the bottom. I mean,

1232
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Speaker 6: I can't say like I would, hope I would if

1233
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 6: I would, or a fumble, Yeah, it has to be

1234
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 6: the bottom. Like I just think again, if I'm watching

1235
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Speaker 6: the film and I'm Kevin O'Connell on Monday and Tuesday

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01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 6: this week and Wednesday, I'm trying to simplify this. Often

1237
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 6: for whoever is gonna be my quarterback, JJ or Max,

1238
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 6: because I want to see can you make the simple thing?

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01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 6: Because I'm actually you to do a lot? Can you

1240
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 6: make the simple throws? So yes, I hope this is

1241
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 6: the bottom. That's Ron Johnson.

1242
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 2: I'm Nordo.

1243
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 3: Final segment around the corner of Vikings fan line, and

1244
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 3: then we're gonna jump into the Wolves game.

1245
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 2: So that's all ahead on the fan. Well, that's it,

1246
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen.

1247
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 3: Vikings fan line comes to a close. I appreciate the

1248
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:45,439
Speaker 3: text to talkbacks and the calls. Vikings lose twenty six

1249
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 3: nothing to the Seattle Seahawks.

1250
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 2: Have they hit the bottom? Ron is hoping that they

1251
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 2: have to? We are all hoping.

1252
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 3: We're all thankful for you listening, texting, talking back.

1253
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Speaker 2: In all of those things.

1254
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 3: Live five point thirty with the Power Trip nine to

1255
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 3: noon tomorrow, sad montage and commentary.

1256
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Speaker 2: Thanks Ron, I appreciate all you do. Good news. The

1257
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 2: Commanders are three and eight.

1258
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: That's in.

1259
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 3: There's an opportunity. There's an opportunity. But Jaden's gonna come

1260
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 3: back and probably have a say in this thing. Thanks

1261
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,919
Speaker 3: to Max Fuller for producing the Wolves one O three

1262
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 3: over the Spurs ninety eight, just about midway through the

1263
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 3: fourth quarter. When we return from break, we're gonna check

1264
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 3: in with that and bring you to the finish. We're

1265
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 3: you're home for Vikings football, but we're your home for Wolves.

1266
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 2: Basketball as well. Enjoy that, Hey, a team's trying to

1267
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 2: win a game.