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Speaker 1: and tell us why you think Russia is so important

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Speaker 3: We should throw a bone, build a credit with Putin.

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Speaker 3: We need to tie in with him. Okay, we tie

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Speaker 4: When negotiating with them right now, they've been again, we

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Speaker 5: I've been one of the strongest defenders of NATO during

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Speaker 2: Pull out, baby, pull out.

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Speaker 1: The country will be cheering leave these in great Europeans

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Speaker 7: I'm I believe she's true Mecca, make America grace again.

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Speaker 7: That's all I can say.

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Speaker 2: Huge news.

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Speaker 1: President Trump now has announced that the regime in Iran

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Speaker 1: They want an end to hostilities, They want a ceasefire.

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Speaker 2: The Strait of Hormoose, and this war is over.

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Speaker 1: Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight.

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Speaker 8: I have a much more pessimistic view of this, and

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Speaker 8: We're going to lose the midterms because of this. Another

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Speaker 8: They haven't forgotten since the Crusades. For God's sake. If

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Speaker 1: I have to say, very powerfully argued Mark, I just

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Speaker 1: And what is possible is I have obliterated their nuclear

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Speaker 8: Argument, I say, unfortunately, it's not enough. Because I have

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Speaker 2: Well, it's going to take time.

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Speaker 1: It'll take more than two weeks, and we're going to

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Speaker 2: That's the counter argument.

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Speaker 8: I let off with my call, it doesn't matter whether

435
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Speaker 8: we were forward or against it. It doesn't matter about NATO.

436
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 8: It matters where we are right now. That's the only

437
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Speaker 8: thing that matters. And where we are right now is

438
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Speaker 8: about to accede. And you are one thousand percent correct,

439
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 8: as you'd like to say, that they are going to

440
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 8: build this up as a huge victory over big and

441
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Speaker 8: little Satan. And good luck to any Iranian dissidence, even

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Speaker 8: a student who might you know, who might have been

443
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Speaker 8: at a protest. You think we think forty thousand people

444
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Speaker 8: were killed. Within a year from now, we're going to

445
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Speaker 8: hear of mass graves in Iran. It is going to

446
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 8: be a blood bath, and that blood will continue to

447
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 8: flow for years and years and years. And I'm sorry

448
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 8: that Donald Trump is in this position. But Donald Trump

449
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 8: put himself in this position because he listened to people

450
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 8: like Lindsey Graham. I don't know what his advisors are like,

451
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 8: but this was folly from the beginning. If they thought

452
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Speaker 8: they could go in and do it this quickly and

453
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Speaker 8: accomplish what needed to be accomplished. These Mulas are going

454
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Speaker 8: to come back, like I said, with a vengeance, and

455
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Speaker 8: we on this continent will eventually pay for it, very

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Speaker 8: very dearly, and people will be asking in the future,

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Speaker 8: just like we asked of George Bush, why didn't he

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Speaker 8: go all the way?

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Speaker 2: Mark, thank you very very much for that call.

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Speaker 1: So there you hear it. Mark says, it's a mistake.

461
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: Trump is making a mistake that if you know, in

462
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Speaker 1: for a penny, in for a pound, you leave the

463
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: mulla's in power now wounded, battered but defiant. All you're

464
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: doing now is enrage them and almost they're going to

465
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: now redouble, triple double their efforts to get nuclear weapons

466
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Speaker 1: and the bomb by leaving them intact. Now, let me

467
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: ask all of you, and then I want to go

468
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Speaker 1: to Gray, she's on the line. But I want to

469
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Speaker 1: ask all of you. This is why, to me, the

470
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: straight up hormus has to be reopened. You have to

471
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: end the blockade. Why because if you don't, then the

472
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Speaker 1: Mullas can charge a fee that toll system that they

473
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Speaker 1: want to place on all those ships going through. And

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Speaker 1: you know, basically extore like an extortion racket, you know,

475
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Speaker 1: like the mob, and they can replenish their treasury to

476
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Speaker 1: the tune of we're talking tens and tens of billions

477
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: of dollars every year, and that's when they can start,

478
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Speaker 1: you know, buying more weapons again, supporting terrorists, obviously pursuing

479
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 1: a nuclear program. So yeah, Trump is hoping, you know,

480
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Speaker 1: anticipating fifteen twenty years. But what if it's not fifteen

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Speaker 1: twenty years. In other words, you know, all of this

482
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Speaker 1: and then we just kick the can down the road

483
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Speaker 1: for maybe you know, one administration or two administrations. So

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Speaker 1: you know, in the end, was it worth it? That's

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Speaker 1: the question I have six one seven two six' six

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Speaker 1: sixty eight sixty. Eight, now, Look trump is going to

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Speaker 1: make the, argument And i'm going to play the cut To.

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Speaker 1: GRACE i want to get her reaction that The mullas

489
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: were two weeks away from the, bomb that they were

490
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: going to get nine ten eleven bombs in two, weeks

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00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: and that had he not, acted then we wouldn't be

492
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: here right. Now that you, know you would see The

493
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: Middle east potentially now with a mushroom, cloud maybe even

494
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 1: parts Of europe in a mushroom cloud that The mullahs

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Speaker 1: then could have used nuclear blackmail and potentially used a

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Speaker 1: nuclear attack on their On, israel or on their, neighbors

497
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: or On. Europe so that basically his argument, is, look

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Speaker 1: they were two weeks away from the. BOMB i saved

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Speaker 1: The Middle, EAST i Saved, europe and in some WAYS

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Speaker 1: i saved the world From World war? Three and is

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Speaker 1: that argument a do you agree with? It and will

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Speaker 1: that persuade The american people that it was worth? It

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Speaker 1: six one seven two six sixty eight sixty? Eight, okay

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Speaker 1: joining me, now Doctor, grace putting liberals in their. Place

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Speaker 1: Grace vuoto my better, half my wonderful, wife AND i

506
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: always say it because it's. TRUE i definitely married Up.

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Speaker 1: Grace trump will address the nation. Tonight he now says

508
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: we'll be leaving You ron in about two to three,

509
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: weeks and if the straight at Four moose remains, Blocked

510
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: he's told The gulf, nations The, europeans it's your, oil

511
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: you go and get.

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Speaker 2: It what say?

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Speaker 9: You good, Morning, Jeff thank you so much for having me.

514
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 9: On so first, off at this, Point, jeff all the

515
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 9: options on the table are. Bad this is now operation

516
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 9: cut your, Losses and WHAT i would be advising the

517
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 9: president is go back to, basics go back to the

518
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 9: promises that you made to the. People so what he

519
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 9: needs to do, is there's no question that he has

520
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 9: to clear the straits because the fact that the straits

521
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 9: are blocked impacts the cost of goods around the, world

522
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 9: and it's not good for. Us so it's in our.

523
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 9: Interest he now has to clear the. Straits he doesn't

524
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 9: have a choice really in. That in, Addition JEFF i

525
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:03,239
Speaker 9: would tell him giving a, timeline he already told us

526
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 9: four to six weeks and that we were ahead of,

527
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 9: schedule meaning that everything should have ended like, yesterday and

528
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 9: that's not. Accurate so he has to stop giving a

529
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 9: timeline because it's obvious that, events many many events now

530
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 9: are beyond his. Control and the more he tries to

531
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 9: give a, timeline the more he puts in jeopardy his

532
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 9: reputation as a straight shooter and as somebody. Competent so

533
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 9: there's a lot at stake right, now and he's got

534
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 9: to go back to basics in order to make sure

535
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Speaker 9: that he can preserve his reputation as a straight shooter

536
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 9: and as somebody. Competent so you got to clear the

537
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 9: state the. Straits accept that you're cutting your. Losses stop

538
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 9: over selling what you. Did this is not regime, Change

539
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 9: this is not a huge victory at. Best this is

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00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 9: again you slow down the mulas a little. Bit that's

541
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Speaker 9: all this is and just come, home focus on THE

542
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 9: who home, front no more foreign, policy and unite the.

543
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 9: Movement that's all he can do right. Now this Is

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00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 9: operation cut your.

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00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: Losses, Italy, Spain, France britain don't want to help us

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00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: with The strait Of. Foremouse italy yesterday and was a

547
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: surprise Because Georgia maloney is a, conservative she's it's actually

548
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: A trump, supporter but she came out and, said you

549
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: will not be allowed to use our military basis to

550
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: fly missions or your fighter jets For Operation Epic. Fury President,

551
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: trump Now Marco rubio are saying maybe it's time for

552
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: us to pull out OF. Nato we're done when they need,

553
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: Us we're there when we need, Them they're.

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00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: Nowhere what say.

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Speaker 9: You, Jeff this is an erroneous. Argument, look The president

556
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 9: has just dealt with a, major major. Setback The Supreme

557
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 9: court told him that his trade deals were essentially, illegal

558
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 9: so he needs The european and to stay in the trade.

559
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 9: Deals and remember he's been playing hardball with them for

560
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 9: ever since he got into the presidency on trade and

561
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 9: on trying to take Over. Greenland so you know what

562
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 9: they are now telling, him you're playing hardball with. Us

563
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 9: we're gonna play hardball with. You and we still do

564
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 9: need The europeans because we want them to stay in

565
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 9: these trade, deals so they have more leverage over us

566
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 9: than everybody is. Assuming in, addition we just don't want

567
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 9: to focus ON nato right, Now. Jeff this is very

568
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 9: discouraging to the Average american that is pumping gas at

569
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 9: four dollars a gallon and. More For god's, sakes we

570
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 9: voted for him to focus On america in the home.

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Speaker 9: Front so just go back to. Basics. Please we don't

572
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 9: even want to discuss this right. Now it's too.

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00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 7: Much and that's one of the problems with the.

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Speaker 9: Presidency he needs to just go back to a few

575
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 9: simple goals and get them.

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Speaker 3: Done.

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Speaker 1: GREAT i want to play a cut AND i want

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00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: to get your. Reaction this Is President trump because now he, said,

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Speaker 1: look their nuclear program has been, obliterated their ballistic missile

580
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: program has been set back a, Generation, basically NOW i

581
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: have defanged The iotolus and so that's a huge military

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Speaker 1: win for The United. States and then when pressed by a,

583
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: reporter listen to What trump says about you, know whether

584
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: you know whether it's worth the short term cost and

585
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: higher gas or oil, prices or the stock market now

586
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: is taken a bit of a. Beating listen to what

587
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Speaker 1: The president, said roll cut three a, Mike.

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Speaker 4: It's amazing what we've. Done we had to make a little.

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00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 4: Detour so when the stock market broke all records just

590
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 4: a few weeks, ago WHEN i hit fifty thousand under

591
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Speaker 4: now seven thousand on THE, SNP i said to The american,

592
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 4: people it's time that we have maken a little, detour

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00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 4: because we have a madman that wants a nuclear, weapon

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Speaker 4: and if we didn't knock him out with A b two,

595
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 4: bomber we would have a nuclear weapon right.

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00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 2: Now it would have been.

597
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 4: Used it would have been used before, this before, today

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Speaker 4: and you may not be standing there asking that. Question.

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Speaker 1: Okay so, basically The ayatola was a. Madman they were a,

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Speaker 1: week maybe two weeks away from a bomb potentially, eight,

601
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Speaker 1: nine ten. Bombs had he not, acted they would have

602
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: used a nuclear weapon Against israel or against one of their,

603
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: neighbors Or rome Or, paris or a country In, europe

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00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: and we'd be looking At World war, three that this

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00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: was an imminent threat that needed to be dealt with,

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00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: immediately and that the president essentially saved not just The

607
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Speaker 1: United states but the.

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Speaker 2: World what say, You, well.

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Speaker 9: The problem is his own intelligence, officials LIKE, ra Like

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00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 9: Telsey gabbert did not confirm. This so he started this

611
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 9: with a crisis of, credibility and he continues in the

612
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 9: crisis of. Credibility the more he. Speaks this is not

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00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 9: a little. Detour Thirteen american service members are, dead three

614
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 9: hundred are. Wounded this is a. War and the more he,

615
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 9: talks he's In quicksand right, now that's WHY i would,

616
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 9: say stop, talking stop giving a, timeline stop over, selling

617
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 9: because he's harming his, reputation a reputation that you, know

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00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 9: he worked hard to earn as somebody who is, competent

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00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,479
Speaker 9: as somebody who tells the. Truth and right, now every

620
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 9: other day he's making contradictory. Statements he did ask for unconditional,

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Speaker 9: surrender he's not getting. That he did want regime. Change

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00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 9: he didn't get that he did want the mullas. Out

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Speaker 9: he's not getting. That just stop, talking because we're not,

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Speaker 9: stupid you. Know we follow the news and we listen

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00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 9: to his words and were following the truth home and

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00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 9: unfortunately the truth is not going home right, Now jeff uh, okay.

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00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: But we have a minute.

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Speaker 1: Left Did, iran in your, view pose an imminent? Threat

629
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Speaker 1: were they several weeks away from a? Bomb and by,

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Speaker 1: acting Did trump save the region and maybe even the

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00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: world from a potential nuclear power that could either blackmail

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00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: the world or actually launch a nuclear.

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Speaker 9: Attack, no they were, not because if they, were every

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00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 9: intelligence organization In europe would have been the first in

635
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 9: line to join him in the. Crusade and they all

636
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 9: knew that it wasn't. True our own intelligence knew that

637
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 9: it wasn't. True the fact, is AS i said from the,

638
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 9: beginning he got roped in by the neocons who just

639
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 9: wanted to Hammer, iran and his foreign policy has been

640
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 9: hijacked by. Them and that's why he's in quicksand because

641
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 9: he broke a key promise to The american people not to,

642
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 9: govern not to rule as a, neocon and he has

643
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 9: been acting as such in foreign. Policy that's his, problem, right,

644
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 9: now and that's why his base is slowly. Fracturing AND

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00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 9: i give you so much, Credit, jet because you're one

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00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 9: of the few hosts In america that is working, very

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00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 9: very hard to keep both sides in. Line but we

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