1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: I'm getting better through Westchester, still heavy through the lock 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: when split northbound four seventy one backs up past Grand 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: and there's a wreck on the ramp from Kellogg to 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: westbound two seventy five. Then slow onto the bridge thanks 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: to the new lane configuration coming up. Next, Bryan talks 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: to the latest defensive end for the Bengals. I it's 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: certainly better than what we have on the field right now, 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: and brings up an interesting twist for this weekend's game, 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: The Judge versus the Patriots Chuck Ingram on fifty five 10 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: krs the talk station, Hey. 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: Thirty one, fifty five KRCD talk station, No insult to 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: Judgeita Polatana, but things have gotten so bad that we 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: need the Judge join. 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 3: Our defensive end. 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: Unbelievable that a laugh of you, said me, Judge of Polatana. 16 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: But it may be a reflection of just how bad 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: things are for the Begels, which is an accurate statement. 18 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: Lord Almighty. 19 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: It wasn't that long ago. Win they were flying high 20 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 3: and Joe Burrow was the talk not just of Cincinnati, 21 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: but of the entire sports world. 22 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, glass jaw, turf toe Burrow. I feel badly for 23 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: the poor guy, but every time he gets up from 24 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: an injury, he ends up getting another injury. I'm not 25 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 2: sure we got in a good ROI on that investment, 26 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: but we'll hope Spring's eternal for the cincinne Bengals Judge 27 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: of Polton, and we'll keep see what happens. I obviously 28 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 2: did you hear. I was just talking to Congressman A. 29 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 2: Massy about these Epstein files, and I kept, you know, 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: why were they so just insistent on not releasing these? 31 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: And as it turns out, it probably is because the 32 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: FBI is going to be revealed for the incompetent organization 33 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: that may be or the corrupt one. A lot of 34 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: women claim to have been molested as fourteen to fifteen 35 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: year olds. He's got hundreds of them. There were a 36 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,919 Speaker 2: thousand of them reportedly involved in this sexual trafficking with Epstein. Obviously, 37 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: it wasn't just Epstein who was engaging in the sexual conduct. 38 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: There were a lot of others swirling about his network 39 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: of friends, many of whom these women have confirmed did 40 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: indeed molest them. Congress Massy's looking for some justice for 41 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: those folks. But cash Betel said, oh, there's nothing there. 42 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: But he didn't even bother. Looking at the FBI investigative files, 43 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: these women came forward, they recorded the information, yet there 44 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 2: were no criminal prosecutions that came about from this, suggesting 45 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: that the more connected you are, the higher up you 46 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: are in the political echelon, the less likely these you're 47 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: going to be held accountable for your crimes. 48 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 3: You know. Professor Alan Dershowitz was Epstein's lawyer who negotiated 49 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 3: the most fantastic sweetheart plea agreement which resulted in either 50 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: weekends only or weekdays only I forget, which in a 51 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: low level confinement environment for thirteen months, notwithstanding the vast 52 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 3: number of underage victims that were involved. This was negotiated 53 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 3: by the then US Attorney for the Southern District of Florida, 54 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 3: which includes where Epstein was living at the time, who 55 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 3: eventually became the Secretary of Labor in the first Trump administration, 56 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 3: Alexander Acosta. When Acosta was interrogated under oath about this 57 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 3: by the House Judiciary Committee, he insisted that no one 58 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: ever told him that Epstein was involved in intel and 59 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 3: therefore was protected. So I don't know who's being truthful here, 60 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 3: but I agree obviously with what you said, my hat 61 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: is off to the extraordinary personal courage of our dear friend, 62 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 3: Congressman Thomas Massi and my congratulations to him on his 63 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: beginning his new life. But back to his political life. 64 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: You know, missus Abelson can throw all the cats you wanted, 65 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: then nobody that's running against him. Thomas Massey is not 66 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: only the personification of fidelity the Constitution, He's personification of 67 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: personal courage and intellectual honesty. And I'm sure his constituents 68 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: will recognize that. And he has said to you, me 69 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: and others that there are names in there being protected, 70 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 3: and some of those names are probably FBI agents. So 71 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 3: the FBI wants to be protected, the Intel people with 72 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 3: whom Epstein was involved, Cia Massad, and probably six that's 73 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 3: the British want to be protected. And Congressman Massey also 74 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 3: said yesterday or the day before, and I wasn't able 75 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 3: to hear your entire interview with him because of another 76 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 3: commitment I had here that he expects some resistance not 77 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: from the President, but from the powers that be in 78 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 3: the DOJ excuses for not revealing what they don't want 79 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 3: to reveal. I mean, people could lose their careers over 80 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 3: what is about to be revealed, of how mightily they 81 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 3: will struggle to prevent it from coming out. 82 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: Amen. But you know what if they deserve to lose 83 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: their careers for what they have done untoward criminal conduct, 84 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 2: perhaps sweeping information under the rug in the name of 85 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: protecting other people, candidly, they deserve to lose their. 86 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: Agreed, agreed, agreed, agreed, Brian, I'm sorry my answer was 87 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 3: so long as Alice in Wonderland once said, gets curious 88 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 3: or and curious, sir every time you. 89 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 2: Look at it, and it is and it will continue 90 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: to be because you know, the points you just made 91 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 2: are going to result in the Department of Justice redacting 92 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: almost everything in the first round of production, and then 93 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 2: they're going to have to explain the redactions according to 94 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: the law that's been passed or it will soon be 95 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: passed or signed into law by the Trump by Trump. 96 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 2: But that they're going to be a fight over those 97 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: reactions and other undisclosed information as we move forward. So 98 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 2: I don't think the Fat Lady has yet sung on 99 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: the whole issue yet. 100 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: I got to point out one other piece of nonsense 101 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 3: that the DOJ will use. Last week, the President ordered 102 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 3: the DOJ to investigate Democrats that he believes were involved 103 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: with Epstein. Well, this raises two interesting issues. One, the 104 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 3: DOJ is absolutely prohibited from investigating anyone based upon their 105 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 3: political affiliation. And two, Epstein's been dead since twenty nineteen, 106 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 3: that is six years ago, that is outside the statute 107 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 3: of limitations of five years. The DOJ is prohibited if 108 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 3: I'm investigating anybody that they can't prosecute, and that nobody 109 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: can be prosecuted after the statute limitations has expired. So 110 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: this excuse we're investigating people and therefore we can't cough 111 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: up our file is a meaningless excuse, and I hope 112 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 3: the Congress sees right through it. 113 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up, because, honestly, Jesseph Paul Towney, 114 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: you're the first person to sort of raise the spector 115 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: of the Statute of limitations and that sort of demands 116 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 2: asking is there a statute limitations in connection with being 117 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: raped as a minor? For the women who really are 118 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: demanding justice at this point, late stage in the game, 119 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: it may be do they can they hope for any 120 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: justice if names are reviewed. 121 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 3: They can, they can hope for civil litigation, but not 122 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 3: for criminal prosecution. 123 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: Well, civil litigation has a way of, at least financially, 124 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: trying to unring or undo the bell of harm that's 125 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: been done to them, and it certainly never does. 126 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 3: There were many civil cases. Two lawyers that are friends 127 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 3: of mine were involved on opposite side, David Boyce and 128 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 3: Arthur I. Dallas. So I don't know how those litigations 129 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: ended up. I don't know the size of the Epstein estate. 130 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: The man was very wealthy. I don't even know how 131 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 3: he raised how he acquired his wealth was actually blackmail. 132 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,119 Speaker 3: Who well knows well? 133 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: How does one become a CIA operative and foremant? How 134 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: does one become connected so much with all of these 135 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: wealthy and extremely influential people. How is it a memory 136 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: of Congress is getting questions fed from him real time 137 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: during a hearing. I just find the whole thing to 138 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: be just bizarre, your honor. I hopefully the answer will 139 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: come with the release of these. 140 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 3: Documents, right right that some of the documents are probably 141 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 3: going to embarrass the president. I don't think there's pictures 142 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: of him with his clothes off, but I think there 143 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: are communications involving him that he would just assume not 144 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: have to address things that he may have said or 145 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 3: done thoughtlessly many years ago. I'm not suggesting any criminal 146 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: behavior at all, but just stuff he would just as 147 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: soon not have to deal with right now, in the 148 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,239 Speaker 3: midst of his second presidency. 149 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: Right, but stuff he's capable of managing. I'm sure he 150 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 2: can provide the exculpatory information to the extent his name 151 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 2: is revealed, and he could say the same thing about 152 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: anybody else's name who pops up. If you weren't guilty 153 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,359 Speaker 2: of anything, you got a bully pulpit, you're a multi billionaire, 154 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: you hung out with the guy, explain yourself to the 155 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: American public and let them digest and then draw their 156 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: own conclusions. We're all kind of stuck in that position 157 00:08:59,559 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: in this day. 158 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: Alston Epstein was very generous to his alma mater, Harvard University, 159 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: and drew into his orbit the then president of Harvard, 160 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 3: Larry Summers, who, after he resigned as the president of Harvard, 161 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 3: became the Secretary of the Treasury and now is issuing 162 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 3: all kinds of statements. He regrets his involvement with Epstein. 163 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: I don't know what the involvement was. Did he just 164 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: have dinner with the guy, or he spend time on 165 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 3: that island doing things that were inappropriate. I'm not suggesting 166 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 3: he did. I think Larry Summers is a very smart guy. 167 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 3: I listened to him all the time on another network. 168 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 3: But this is the type of name that's going to 169 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 3: come out that's going to force people to make public statements. 170 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: Finally get into the bottom of it after all this time, 171 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 2: judg ennit of Politano Judging Freedom is your podcast? Who 172 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: are you talking with today? Is? We got to close 173 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: out the segment. 174 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 3: I have the great Colonel Douglas McGregor on, who is 175 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: convinced that war is coming for the United States and Venezuela, 176 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 3: know in Iran and soon. 177 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: Oh God, we'll talk about that soon, I hope, Judgment 178 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: and Apoloitano. God bless you appreciate your willingness to come 179 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: on the program. 180 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 3: If you will, thank you, my friend, all the best 181 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 3: to you. 182 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 2: Have a wonderful week. 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