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Speaker 1: Now from the Star Rentals Sports Tests your ninety three

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Speaker 1: point three KJRFM Sports Headlines.

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Speaker 2: Sports Headlines live from the Sports Star Award Banquet. Softy

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Speaker 2: Indic without the soft one. Jackson is here, Hugh is here.

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Speaker 2: Brought to you by Frost Brewed, Coors Light, Choose Chill Kracking.

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Speaker 2: Buried by an avalanche figuratively and literally last night five

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Speaker 2: to one. They've now fallen out of the eighth and

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Speaker 2: final playoff spot. They faced Vancouver tomorrow night at seven

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Speaker 2: o'clock right here on ninety three point three KJRFM.

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Speaker 3: Time to turn things around, Coach Lambert, let's go.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of buried, the Sounders buried the Vancouver white Caps

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Speaker 4: last night in conkercaf action three nothing in their house

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Speaker 4: up in Vancouver. Lake two of that series's next Wednesday

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Speaker 4: and Spokane. But the Sounders return to MLS action on

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Speaker 4: Sunday against San Jose four pm, kickoff, nine fifty k am.

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Speaker 2: The Raiders have signed former Hawks wide receiver Derek Young

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Speaker 2: to a free agent contract. We always make fun of

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Speaker 2: the guys that didn't do a lot to say, hey,

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Speaker 2: what was your favorite, But there actually was a favorite one.

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Speaker 5: There was a favorite.

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Speaker 2: Treka My Young moment the turnover against the Rams.

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Speaker 4: We have the Atlanta Falcons making the signing of tuatag

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Speaker 4: of Ala official. Their general manager Ian Cunningham said that

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Speaker 4: Tool will be competing for the starting job against Michael Pennocks. Penis,

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Speaker 4: of course, is still recovering from that ACL in November.

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Speaker 3: Seahawks JM.

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Speaker 2: John Schneider yesterday said that the state's new millionaire's tax

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Speaker 2: that is about to be signed into law is quote

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Speaker 2: gonna sting, no question about it when it comes to

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Speaker 2: signing players, and that the fact that the state had

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Speaker 2: no income tax previously was a huge advantage to the Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: All right, five o two, rolling into the final half of.

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Speaker 2: The show, We'll have some guests towards the five thirty

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Speaker 2: six o'clock segments of the show. We're anxiously awaiting talking

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Speaker 2: to the Holme Grins when they come in. Both Mike

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Speaker 2: and Kathy being honored today with the Paul G. Allen

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Speaker 2: Humanitarian Award. Hubreed Love Millin is with us and Hugh

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Speaker 2: a lot of times we use you as the judge,

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Speaker 2: jury and executioner on debates that Softie and I yeah,

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Speaker 2: shows and uh, I don't know how it got resurrected,

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Speaker 2: but original topic.

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Speaker 3: In the middle of.

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Speaker 2: The football season, we were we were discussing Sam Darnold,

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Speaker 2: and uh Softy made a comment, I would I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: trade Sam darn for anything, And so we started we

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Speaker 2: started saying, Oh, would you trading for two first round

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Speaker 3: He said, no?

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Speaker 2: Would you trading for three first round No? Would you

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Speaker 2: trade for four first round He's like no, And I

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Speaker 2: was like, dude, I trade just about anybody for four

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Speaker 2: first round draft picks. So we got into this huge

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Speaker 2: debate in October about it, and then somehow Jackson remind

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Speaker 2: me how did it get resurrected yesterday?

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I honestly think it was during a

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Speaker 4: Okay, were you guys, because then because then you guys

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Speaker 4: just suddenly out of the blue, I'm behind the glass

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Speaker 4: and I'm looking at Softie and Dick and suddenly they

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Speaker 4: just start going at each other, yelling, and I was

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Speaker 4: kind of just I had poked my head in and

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Speaker 4: you're arguing about Sam Darnal, and I said, guys, save

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Speaker 4: this for the air, save this for the air. And

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Speaker 4: then the next segment it blows up.

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Speaker 2: So he saved it for the air, and then once

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Speaker 2: again it just it was brought up, you know, Sam

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Speaker 2: Donald and Softhea's point was, now this we're in a

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Speaker 2: now than we were in October, and we have now

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Speaker 2: basically except for maybe Kirk Cousins. So now he's like,

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Speaker 2: I'm definitely not trading for four first round draft picks

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Speaker 2: for Sam Donald, and I said, sorry, it's the principle

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Speaker 3: So what say you? What say you, Hugh?

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Speaker 2: And maybe kind of remind us where you were in

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Speaker 2: does that factor at all into your decay?

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Speaker 7: Well, wherever we were before is irrelevant because we have

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Speaker 7: It had to have moved you in the Sam Darnold direction,

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Speaker 7: And so I actually think obviously, there's a part of

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Speaker 7: Very seldom is there been two. Not that there haven't

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Speaker 7: been too several that have been worked to. But Matthew

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Speaker 7: Stafford got to Jeff George, like Jay Cutler, you know,

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Speaker 7: John Hadel going back to the seventies, Like it's a

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Speaker 5: Because if you have a really good quarterback, you're not

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Speaker 5: you're not gonna let him go. Right.

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Speaker 7: Here's a thought and I understand it's a thought experiment,

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Speaker 7: thought experiment. John Schneider, Mike McDonald. They somehow they're out

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Speaker 7: a call comes through of an average NFL team and

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Speaker 7: you have been put in charge for ten minutes. You

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Speaker 7: and you can go ahead.

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Speaker 7: When Snyder and McDonald get back, you say, hey, I

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Speaker 7: was in charge. I gave up saying I just traded

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Speaker 7: Sam Donald for four first round draft picks. So my

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Speaker 7: question is if you had that, you were in charge,

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Speaker 7: and kind of like how Tim Ruskell and Mike Holmgren.

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Speaker 7: You know, Holmgren thought, you know, when Tim Ruskell, Hey,

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Speaker 7: we're gonna franchise Steve Hutchinson, Ruskell went behind his back.

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Speaker 5: It was underhanded. He and he only did.

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Speaker 7: The the the not the franchise tag, but the transition tag.

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Speaker 7: And next thing is Hutchinson's a Viking, right, So you

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Speaker 7: don't want to screw it up for Mike Holmgren in

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Speaker 3: I got you. And so your question is, what what

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Speaker 7: You might get that you just got a call and

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Speaker 7: you've got ten minutes to decide.

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Speaker 2: YEP, I would. I would trade him. I would put

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Speaker 2: aside the emotion of him already winning a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: and I would do what's best for the organization and

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Speaker 2: of evidence of players that have been traded for two

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Speaker 2: back to the Hearsel Walkers of the world, and the

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Speaker 2: team that gets the draft picks almost always wins the trade.

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Speaker 3: And that's just two first round draft picks. That's not

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna push back. I'm gonna do you may be right,

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Speaker 7: you may be wrong. Right, I'm gonna pull go Billy

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Speaker 7: Joel on you. You might be right, you might be wrong.

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Speaker 7: How about Jamal Adams? That was two first round picks?

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Speaker 3: It terrible, terrible trade?

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Speaker 7: What a terrible Yeah, really brutal arguing on my part,

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Speaker 5: They Yes, you're right, that was. That would be an example.

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Speaker 7: Russell Wilson, Yeah, well okay, so so you're gonna do it.

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Speaker 5: And then and so when MacDonald looks at you and say.

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Speaker 3: After the first ten after the first ten seconds of

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Speaker 2: Then they would say, Dick, get in the car. Where

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Speaker 2: would you like to go for dinner? What would you

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Speaker 2: What wine would you like? What does that matter? The

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Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. If

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Speaker 3: Would you want? And what cut of steak would you

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Speaker 2: Because you just set our franchise up for the next decade.

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Speaker 7: Well that obviously you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna paint

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Speaker 7: What what if they back and go? Really, who's going

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Speaker 7: to be our quarterback? Like I know it sounds great

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Speaker 7: in theory. Who's going to be your freaking quarterback? And

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Speaker 7: how hard is it to acquire a quarterback? And how

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Speaker 7: many franchises you want me to come back next week

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Speaker 7: with a list of franchises that have gone through fifteen

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Speaker 2: And the Vik the Viking's just got Kyler Murray for

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Speaker 2: the league minimum, Like, isn't Sam's as bad?

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Speaker 5: That is as bad as my Sam? What I was

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Speaker 2: Sam Kyler Murray is not Sam Donald. To a tongue

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Speaker 2: of iloa is not Sam Donald? But would you rather

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Speaker 5: I don't think Donald, Sam Donald? Sam Donald.

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Speaker 7: Since Thanksgiving of twenty twenty two, he is number one

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Speaker 7: in the NFL in wins, he's the win He has

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Speaker 7: seventy nine percent. The next closes, Mahomes is seventy three

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Speaker 7: led the league in turnovers.

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Speaker 3: You understand. This is not an indictment on Sam Darnold

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Speaker 7: I understand, but I'm just saying that I likely would not.

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Speaker 7: I think it's a fair argument either way. They're My

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Speaker 7: strongest take is you can't have a strong take. It's

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Speaker 7: not a slam dunk because if you trade. I know

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Speaker 7: rule Because Pat Bolan said, all agree finally to you

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Speaker 7: these these negotiations. Pat Bolan said, I'm not agreeing to

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Speaker 7: anything where I can lose John Elway. Pat Bolan would

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Speaker 7: have set his first round pick every year for fifteen years. Now,

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Speaker 7: I I don't think it's as easy as as you say,

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Speaker 7: Like like just that all of a sudden, they're gonna

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Speaker 7: Sam Darnold. You know, when you take turnovers and you

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Speaker 7: can correlate it to win percentage, these numbers cannot be debated.

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Speaker 7: Correlation point zero zero seven meaning actually it's basically zero,

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Speaker 7: It's ever so slightly a positive correlation, meaning the more

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Speaker 7: the highest correlation six forty two. I just said turnovers

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Speaker 3: I understand.

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Speaker 6: And what he.

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Speaker 7: Did against the Rams in the NFC Championship game standing

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Speaker 7: And you just you just throw these names out and

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Speaker 3: Eighteen of them.

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Speaker 3: History, but we we need you for two All we

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Speaker 8: Rodney already need is two games, Sam, and he freaking delivered.

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Speaker 3: I got it.

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Speaker 5: List. And then I want you to tell me the flaw.

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Speaker 7: Tell me what my counter argument is. Herschel's I'm in

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Speaker 7: the game after that, BS freaking Jamal Adams Come.

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Speaker 2: The root fallacy of my list was they weren't coming

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Speaker 5: No, that's not it.

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Speaker 7: The root fallacy is that all the teams that gave

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Speaker 7: You didn't give make a list. Do you want me

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Speaker 5: That's my point.

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Speaker 5: You didn't. You didn't have Josh Allen on that list.

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Speaker 5: You'd have Pat Mahomes on that list, did you? And

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Speaker 6: But I don't neither.

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Speaker 3: But Sam Darnold falls short of that level of.

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Speaker 5: Super And that's a fair take. I don't want.

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Speaker 7: I look, as I said, the strongest I take I

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Speaker 2: I got you, I got Hugh. Do you do you

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Speaker 5: No, that's where I'm good.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna come back because Jackson and I did something

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Speaker 3: Time to turn things around, Coach Lambert, let's go.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of buried, the Sounders buried the Vancouver white Caps

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Speaker 2: Sam Darn't for anything, and so we started we started saying, Oh,

442
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Speaker 2: would you trading for two first round picks draft picks?

443
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Speaker 3: He said no? Would you trading for three first round No?

444
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 2: Would you trade for four first round He's like no,

445
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 2: And I was like, dude, I trade just about anybody

446
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 2: for four first round draft picks. So we got into

447
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 2: this huge debate in October about it, and then somehow

448
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 2: Jackson remind me how did it get resurrected yesterday?

449
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 4: I don't know. I honestly think it was during a

450
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 4: commercial break. Okay, were you guys, because then, because then

451
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Speaker 4: you guys, just suddenly out of the blue, I'm behind

452
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Speaker 4: the glass and I'm looking at Softie and Dick and

453
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 4: suddenly they just start going at each other, yelling, and

454
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Speaker 4: I was kind of just I had poked my head

455
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Speaker 4: in and you're arguing about Sam Darnald, and I said, guys,

456
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 4: save this for the air, save this for the air.

457
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 4: And then the next segment it blows up.

458
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Speaker 2: So he saved it for the air, and then once

459
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Speaker 2: again it just it was brought up, you know, Sam

460
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Speaker 2: Donald and Sopea's point was, now this we're in a

461
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Speaker 2: different We're in a different period in the football calendar

462
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: now than we were in October. We have now won

463
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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. All the quarterbacks are gobbled up basically

464
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Speaker 2: except for maybe Kirk Cousins. So now he's like, I'm

465
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Speaker 2: definitely not trading for first round draft picks for Sam Donald,

466
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Speaker 2: and I said, sorry, it's the principle the matter. Patrick

467
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 2: Mahomes and Josh Allen are the only two players I

468
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Speaker 2: would even consider trading for first.

469
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Speaker 3: Round draft picks for.

470
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Speaker 5: So what say you? What say you, Hugh?

471
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Speaker 2: And maybe kind of remind us where you were in

472
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Speaker 2: October on this, and how does the fact that we

473
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Speaker 2: are into March and most of the quarterbacks are gone

474
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Speaker 2: does that factor all?

475
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Speaker 7: Well, wherever we were before is irrelevant because we have

476
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 7: a lot more information right now. Your your answer may

477
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 7: still be the same, but you've got to look at it.

478
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 5: It had to have moved.

479
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 7: You in the Sam Darnold direction, even if you were

480
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 7: on your side. Agreed, yes, yes, And so I actually think,

481
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Speaker 7: obviously there's a part of me that said, this is absurd.

482
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Speaker 7: There's never been a quarterback to my knowledge, it's got

483
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Speaker 7: three first round picks. Very seldom has there been two.

484
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Speaker 7: Not that there haven't been too several that have been

485
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Speaker 7: worked to. But Matthew Stafford got to Jeff George, like

486
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 7: Jay Cutler, you know, John Hadel going back to the seventies,

487
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Speaker 7: Like it's a short list of just two guys.

488
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Speaker 5: Because if you have a really good quarterback, you're not

489
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 5: you're not gonna let him go. Right.

490
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Speaker 7: Here's a thought And I understand it's a thought experiment,

491
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Speaker 7: but think of it like this. And here's here's a

492
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 7: thought experiment. John Schneider, My McDonald. They somehow they're out

493
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 7: of town. I don't know, they're they're indisposed, And somehow

494
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 7: a call comes through of an average NFL team And

495
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 7: you have been put in charge for ten minutes. You

496
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 7: got to make a decision ten minutes and it's only you,

497
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Speaker 7: and you can go ahead, and and when Snyder and

498
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Speaker 7: McDonald get back, you say, hey, I was in charge.

499
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Speaker 7: I gave up saying I just traded Sam Donald for

500
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Speaker 7: four first round draft picks. So my question is if

501
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Speaker 7: you had that you were in charge, and kind of

502
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 7: like how Tim Ruskell and and Mike Holmgren. You know,

503
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Speaker 7: Holmgren thought, you know, when Tim Russell, Hey, we're gonna

504
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 7: franchise Steve Hutchinson, Ruskell went behind his back.

505
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Speaker 5: It was underhanded and he and he only did.

506
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Speaker 7: The the the not the franchise tag, but the transition tag.

507
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 7: And next scene is Hutchinson's a Viking, right, So you

508
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 7: don't want to screw it up for Mike Holmgren in

509
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 7: this case, Mike McDonald and John Schneider.

510
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Speaker 3: Sure, And so your question is, what would they say

511
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 3: to me right now?

512
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Speaker 7: Might you get that you just got a call and

513
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 7: you've got ten minutes to decide?

514
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 3: YEP?

515
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Speaker 2: I would. I would trade him. I would put aside

516
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: the emotion of him already winning a Super Bowl, and

517
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 2: I would do what's best for the organization and what's

518
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 2: best for the organization. And I've got all sorts of

519
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 2: evidence of players that have been traded for two first

520
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 2: round draft picks plus right dating all the way back

521
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 2: to the herschel Walkers of the world. And the team

522
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 2: that gets the draft picks almost always wins the trade.

523
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Speaker 2: And that's just two first round draft picks. That's not

524
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 2: more for that.

525
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Speaker 7: I'm gonna pushpack. I'm gonna do. You may be right,

526
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 7: you may be wrong. Right, I'm gonna pull go Billy

527
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 7: jaw on you. You might be right, you might be wrong.

528
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 7: How about Jamal Adams? That was two first round picks?

529
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, well that terrible trade. What a terrible Yeah, that

530
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 5: really brutal arguing on my part.

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Speaker 7: I can I can find Wow, they Yes, you're right,

532
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 7: that was That would be an example.

533
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 6: Russell Wilson.

534
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 7: Yeah, well okay, so so you're gonna do it. And

535
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 7: then and so when McDonald looks at you and say,

536
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 7: after the.

537
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Speaker 3: First ten after the first ten seconds of them.

538
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 2: Going for four, Dick four, then they would say, Dick,

539
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: get in the car. Where would you like to go

540
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 2: for dinner? What would you what wine would you like?

541
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Speaker 2: What does not matter the price of the bottle?

542
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't know, I don't know. If

543
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 6: they're going that.

544
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: Far, would you want? And what cut of steak would

545
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 2: you want tonight? Because you just set our franchise up

546
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 2: for the next decade.

547
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 7: Well that obviously you're gonna you're gonna, you're gonna paint

548
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 7: this scene, you know, the met dinner scene, because that

549
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 7: that that's the scene that makes you look at what

550
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 7: what if they come back and go, really, who's gonna

551
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 7: be our quarterback?

552
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 5: Like, I know it.

553
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 7: Sounds great in theory. Who's going to be your freaking quarterback?

554
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 7: And how hard is it to acquire a quarterback? And

555
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 7: how many franchises you want me to come back next

556
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 7: week with a list of franchises that have gone through

557
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 7: fifteen twenty quarterback year.

558
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 5: After your decade after decade, they're in, They're in quarterback

559
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Speaker 5: and the.

560
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 2: Fight the Viking's just got Kyler Murray for the league minimum, Like,

561
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: isn't Sam's bad?

562
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 5: That is as bad as as my Sam?

563
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: What I.

564
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 9: Like?

565
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: Come on now, Kyler Murray is not Sam Donald to

566
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 2: a tongue of I looa is not Sam Donald? But

567
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 2: would you rather have to a tongue of by loa?

568
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: And for first round?

569
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Speaker 5: I don't think.

570
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 7: Donald zero Sam Donald? Sam Donald. Since Thanksgiving of twenty

571
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 7: twenty two, he is number one in the NFL in wins.

572
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 7: He's the win he has the highest win percentage actually

573
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 7: by a good margin, pushing seventy nine percent. The next

574
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 7: closest Mahomes is seventy three percent. That he has the

575
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 7: highest percentage of games that with one hundred passer rating.

576
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 7: And last year you want to do the hand ringing this,

577
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 7: this is all the hand ring about the turnovers that

578
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 7: he had, oh, you know, led the league in turnovers.

579
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Speaker 3: You understand this is not an indictment on Sam Donald

580
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 3: on my part.

581
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Speaker 7: I understand, but I'm just saying that I likely would not.

582
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 7: I think it's a fair argument either way. They're they're

583
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 7: My strongest take is you can't have a strong take.

584
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 7: It's not a slam dunk because if you trade. I

585
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 7: know this when Pat Bolan was the owner of the

586
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 7: the Broncos and the franchise tag is the John Elway rule.

587
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 7: Because Pat Bowlan said, all agree finally to you guys

588
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 7: having free agency, meaning you players. And I was a

589
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 7: player rep, so I was, you know, tied to these

590
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 7: these negotiations. Pat Bolan said, I'm not agreeing to anything

591
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 7: where I can lose John Elway. Pat Bolan would have

592
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 7: set his first round pick every year for fifteen years. Now,

593
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 7: you say that's John Elway. I get it, but I

594
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 7: I I don't think it's as easy as as you say,

595
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Speaker 7: like like just that all of a sudden, they're gonna

596
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 7: they're gonna go buy you a dinner at the met

597
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 7: Sam Darnold, you know, when you take turnovers and you

598
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 7: correlate it to win percentage, these numbers cannot be debated.

599
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 7: Correlation point zero zero seven meaning actually it's basically zero,

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Speaker 7: meaning there's no difference on how many aggregate turnovers you have.

601
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Speaker 7: And in fact, because it's it's a positive number, it's

602
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 7: ever so slightly a positive correlation, meaning the more turnovers

603
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 7: you have, the more you win. Correspondingly, the yards per

604
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 7: dropback that it takes into account how many yards you

605
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 7: you produce, what your sacks are, and if you scramble,

606
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 7: how many yards you run for yards per dropback has

607
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 7: the highest correlation six forty two. I just said turnovers

608
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 7: was point zero zero seven, six forty two. Think of

609
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 7: it like a batting average, six forty two correlation to

610
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 7: winning on yards per dropback.

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Speaker 5: And Sam Darnold was number one in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I understand.

613
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 5: And what he did.

614
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 7: Against the Rams in the NFC Championship game standing toe.

615
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 5: For toe to toe, he goals for three.

616
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 7: Hundred and forty six yards, three touchdowns no picks, has

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Speaker 7: one hundred and twenty eight past rating. I think I'll

618
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 7: make one more analogy and then I'll let Jackson. You guys,

619
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 7: when when I first got in the league, you know

620
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 7: I was. I was pretty parsimonious with the money I

621
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 7: was getting. I didn't want to.

622
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 5: But the one thing I did, I was really into

623
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 5: high fighting music.

624
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 7: Right, So I buy this uh there down in Orange

625
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 7: County there's this this uh, this high fight stereo stuff.

626
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,479
Speaker 7: I buy the floor model of this amplifier. It's the

627
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 7: only possession in my life that I still have other

628
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 7: than just memories and photos. I still have this amplifier

629
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 7: S threshold s five hundred amplifier. It's like one hundred

630
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 7: pounds made out of Sacramento unbelievable current.

631
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 5: I still have it.

632
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 7: It's the it's the amplifier that drives my theater, my

633
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 7: high fight set up. Now it's forty years old. What

634
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 7: I realized in that there's trust me. There's a quarterback

635
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 7: uh correlation coming at the end. What I learned and

636
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 7: then I said, okay, what about a DVD player. I

637
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 7: could get a I could get an anky O, or

638
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 7: I could get a Dennon. But what you know is

639
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 7: there like what about Cambridge Audio?

640
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 5: You know?

641
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 7: And what I realized when you start chasing high fi,

642
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 7: you there's diminishing returns and you pay a lot more money.

643
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 7: You pay double money to get five or ten percent

644
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 7: better sound, and then you double that to get five

645
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 7: or ten percent. Right the people who are and I

646
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 7: and I, you know what I realized, I go, John

647
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 7: Elway can play this game.

648
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 5: I can't. And I tapped out. And I and my

649
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 5: my my.

650
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 7: Six thousand dollars amplifier that I got for thirty five

651
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 7: hundred that is still working. I tapped out. After that,

652
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 7: I said, I can't. I can't be in this game. Well,

653
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 7: that's what it's like for quarterbacks. You to find a

654
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 7: guy that in the in the that in the NFC

655
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 7: Championship game, when Matthew Stafford is shredding your ass. To

656
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 7: find a guy that can step up and match him

657
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 7: with that kind of pressure, you pay a lot more,

658
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 7: You pay double just to get that extra five or

659
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 7: ten percent. Because that extra five or ten percent, what

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Speaker 7: about the game that he had against the Rams? You

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Speaker 7: pay for a guy who can dig that deep after

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Speaker 7: two interceptions and then for the rest of the fourth

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Speaker 7: quarter and all of overtime have one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 7: passer rating and you know, two touchdowns and come back

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Speaker 7: and beat the Rams. Like you pay the extra margin,

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Speaker 7: You double your pay, you triple your pay, just for

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Speaker 7: that little sliver so that you can win a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 7: And just you just throw these names out and you think, well,

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Speaker 7: I can win with him, and I can win him.

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Speaker 5: Can you really you want to do? We want to

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Speaker 5: have the list of.

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Speaker 7: Franchises that go through quarterbacks one after a freaking another,

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Speaker 7: trying to find somebody who's a twenty eight year old

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Speaker 7: Sam Darnold who's number one in the NFL in wins,

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Speaker 7: number one in the NFL in passer rating percentage of games,

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Speaker 7: and number one in yards per dropback with the highest

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Speaker 7: correlation of all stats.

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Speaker 4: Not every team has this defense though not every team

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Speaker 4: as the best defense in the NFL. And that's why

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Speaker 4: that's why I sluck.

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Speaker 7: What was the defense against the Rams when when Darnold

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Speaker 7: had to give you three hundred and fifty eight.

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Speaker 8: Pass three That's the point, because when it's it's like

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Speaker 8: you're paying for that one game. You're paying for that

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Speaker 8: one game when when it's like all the other games,

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Speaker 8: Hey dude, we're gonna play twenty games, eighteen of them.

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Speaker 8: You can just eat a sandwich and a hot dog

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Speaker 8: on this.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna let.

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Speaker 2: History, but we we need you for two All we

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Speaker 2: need is one pin Rodney.

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Speaker 5: All we need is two games, Sam and he Quacking delivered.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna let history be the telltale on why I

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Speaker 2: feel the way I feel. Here are the trades in

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Speaker 2: NFL history for two plus first round draft picks.

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Speaker 10: I got the list. If you want, all right, you

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Speaker 10: got it too.

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Speaker 5: I got it.

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Speaker 2: I got it here, okay, all right, and you just

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Speaker 2: tell me. Stop me when you hear a name that

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Speaker 2: this trade made sense for the name that got a

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Speaker 2: play the flaw.

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Speaker 7: I want after you the flaw, and then I want

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Speaker 7: you to tell me the flaw.

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Speaker 6: Start.

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Speaker 7: Tell me what my counter argument is. Herschel I'm in

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Speaker 7: the game after that, bs freaking Jamal Adams coment.

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Speaker 6: I got my hair, jam.

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Speaker 5: Fatal flaw.

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Speaker 2: Don't you worry.

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Speaker 3: Jamal's on the list.

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Speaker 2: Herseel Walker to the Vikings, Keith Shawn Johnson to the Buccaneers,

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Speaker 2: Ricky Williams to the Miami Dolphins, Jay Cutler to the

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Speaker 2: Chicago Bears, Sauce Gardner injured all year to the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 2: Micah Parsons don't know yet, Jamal Adams, Khalil Mack. Would

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Speaker 2: you rather have Camille Mack or the two first round

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Speaker 2: draft picks Bears? Laramie Tunsel who doesn't play for the

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Speaker 2: Texans anymore? J Ramsey to the Rams, who doesn't play

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Speaker 2: for the Rams anymore, DeShawn Watson to the Browns, Russell

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Speaker 2: Wilson in Denver Broncos, and Matthew Stafford to the LA Ramps.

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Speaker 3: Last probably the.

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Speaker 7: One that Listen, I'm gonna stipulate that every single one

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Speaker 7: of those trades the team that uh that traded the

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Speaker 7: guy they lost. Okay, now you tell me the fundamental,

725
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Speaker 7: the root fallacy of your list.

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Speaker 3: The root fallacy of my list was they weren't coming

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Speaker 3: off a Super Bowl championship.

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Speaker 5: No, that's not it.

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Speaker 3: What's the root fallacy.

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Speaker 7: The root fallacy is that all the teams that gave

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Speaker 7: up those players, they were willing to give up those players.

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Speaker 7: You didn't give make a list. You want me to

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Speaker 7: make a list of all the guys that were not

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Speaker 7: offered as to how about John Elway, how about Joe Montana,

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Speaker 7: how about Lawrence Taylor? How about uh Ray ray Lewis.

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Speaker 5: That's my point.

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Speaker 7: You can't you can't present to me a list of

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Speaker 7: these teams that said, you know what we got, we

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Speaker 7: got a great player, but he's not that great, so

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Speaker 7: we're gonna move him, like like I was. I was

741
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Speaker 7: the Cowboys shortly after the herschel Walker trade. Like that's

742
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Speaker 7: the fundamental problem.

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Speaker 5: You're not, Matt, you know, you know the like like

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Speaker 5: think about it.

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Speaker 3: All of your.

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Speaker 7: Examples are guys that the teams who held those players

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Speaker 7: views as expendable.

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Speaker 5: You didn't. You didn't have Josh Allen on that list.

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Speaker 6: Did you.

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Speaker 5: You'd have Pat Malomes on that list, did you?

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Speaker 3: And you know what those guys, guys are going to

752
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Speaker 3: give them up?

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Speaker 6: But I don't neither.

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Speaker 2: I already told you there's a there is a level

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Speaker 2: of super stardom that I would reach where I would

756
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Speaker 2: not want for first round draft picks.

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Speaker 3: But Sam Darnold falls short of that level of super.

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Speaker 5: And that's a fair take.

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Speaker 7: I don't want I look, as I said, the strongest

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Speaker 7: I take I have is that you shouldn't have a uhuhng.

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Speaker 5: It is not absurd.

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Speaker 7: Nobody's gonna throw you in the in the football is

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Speaker 7: sant asylum because you traded Sam Donald for fur. But similarly,

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Speaker 7: nor is softy absurd because because when you consider how

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Speaker 7: hard it is for teams to to uh to acquire

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Speaker 7: a quarterback who's capable of winning a Super Bowl for

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Speaker 7: you and do the things that Donald has, and they're

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Speaker 7: in NFL purgatory for decades. Cleveland, the Jets.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I got you, I got Hugh.

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Speaker 2: Do you do you have a few more minutes to

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Speaker 2: hang on? Because I got one more thing. I want

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Speaker 2: to run by you. I know Jackson and I are

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Speaker 2: gonna start doing some interviews here, but we're not at

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Speaker 2: that point yet.

775
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Speaker 3: Or do you gotta run?

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Speaker 5: No, that's w'ere. I'm good.

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Speaker 3: Cool.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna come back because Jackson and I did something

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Speaker 2: last week. We want to get your take on. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: it is related to Sam Donald. And it's actually a

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Speaker 2: pro Sam Donald segment. Okay, unlike unlike, but everybody isn't even.

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Speaker 3: An anti Sam Donalds.

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Speaker 12: Not what everybody's making like softy things. I hate Sam

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Speaker 12: Donald because because I'll trade it for four first up rappings.

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Speaker 3: We'll come back to the convention Center. You will join

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Speaker 3: us for one final segment.

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Speaker 2: Then we'll get some interviews here as people start to

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Speaker 2: file in on ninety three point three kJ RFL.

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Speaker 1: From the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now

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Speaker 1: back to Softie and Dick on your Home for the Huskies,

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Speaker 1: Kraken and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety three point

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Speaker 1: three kJ r FM.

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Speaker 3: Ah, good stuff from you today, no question about it.

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Speaker 2: We are here at the Sports Star Awards banquets.

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Speaker 3: We have let Hugh go to his lovely.

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Speaker 5: Bride for the rest of the evening.

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Speaker 3: Jackson Felt and I are here.

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Speaker 2: Convention Center in downtown Seattle, where the celebs.

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Speaker 3: Are starting to flow. I mean more so in the

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Speaker 3: six o'clock hour.

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Speaker 2: Spencer Heywood's hanging out over there talking lots of soccer peoples.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Christian rold Don, we're trying to get him on.

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Speaker 2: Schmitzer's gonna be here at some point, right we get

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Speaker 2: we uh finagle Schmitzer for a.

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Speaker 5: Couple of minutes.

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Speaker 4: The guys standing over here, this guy named Peter tumlass Away.

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Speaker 4: He's running the world. Yea, he runs the whole bang.

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Speaker 3: For the World Cup.

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Speaker 2: So I mean that's gonna be What do you think

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Speaker 2: this city is going to be like for that? I

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Speaker 2: have no idea. It's nothing. It's nothing that we have

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Speaker 2: ever even come close to hosting in the past. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the closest thing I can think of is the good

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Speaker 2: Will Games.

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Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety. I mean, it's the closest thing.

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Speaker 2: To and that's not the magnitude of the World Cup

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Speaker 2: of the Olympics, but that's the closest thing we've had

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Speaker 2: this point.

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Speaker 4: Let me uh, let me go unsoccer guy for a minute.

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Speaker 4: I went, are you and is he capable of doing that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Well he might be, but I don't approve of that soccer.

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Speaker 4: And as a fellow of soccer, you can jump in

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Speaker 4: and cut me off and say I'm an idiot, but listen,

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Speaker 4: I am.

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Speaker 6: I'm very worried about this whole event.

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Speaker 4: I'm worried for a few reasons, the number one being

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Speaker 4: the overall enthusiasm and ticket sales, and I think soccer

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Speaker 4: hunger right now in this country. I've looked at what

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Speaker 4: the ticket sales are, I've looked at what FIFA has

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Speaker 4: done where they changed it from one big event or

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Speaker 4: just huge, massive events across America in a lot of cities.

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Speaker 4: They're now just doing smaller events in a lot of

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Speaker 4: different locations. And that scene is sort of like we

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Speaker 4: are not getting the momentum for huge crowds for big

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Speaker 4: events that we wanted to, so we can do smaller

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Speaker 4: things here and there. And if there's smaller crowds that

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Speaker 4: eat each one of these places, that's not going to

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Speaker 4: look nearly as bad. I combine that with the other

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Speaker 4: things I said, and I hope that this tournament goes off,

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Speaker 4: but I think you're going to be writing a lot

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Speaker 4: and a lot of weight's going to be put on

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Speaker 4: the shoulders of international people coming into the United States

844
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Speaker 4: to attend these games at a time right now, where

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Speaker 4: do international people want to come to the United States?

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Speaker 4: I hope so, I hope that they want to come

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Speaker 4: and see their countries playing the World Cup. But right

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Speaker 4: now that is a question. So as a soccer just

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Speaker 4: massive fan right now, as i'd say, right behind the

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Speaker 4: guy who's running the whole thing here in Seattle, I

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Speaker 4: am worried about not just here in Seattle. I think

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Speaker 4: here's Seattle. It's a smaller thing. I'm worried about the

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Speaker 4: event overall in this country and across also Canada, Mexico.

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Speaker 3: But in Seattle though, and I'll let you Fini go Anderson.

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Speaker 2: In Seattle though, it seems like it would work better

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Speaker 2: than in other cities that maybe haven't you know that

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Speaker 2: maybe they've are like La or whatever, they've already hosted

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Speaker 2: huge things. Seattle hasn't hosted anything like this before. So

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Speaker 2: don't you think that helps us here in the Northwest.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's Jackson. I'm gonna kind of throw this back

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Speaker 10: at you.

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Speaker 13: Do you think it's an infrastructure thing, like just the

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Speaker 13: size of the event is too big, or do you

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Speaker 13: think it's an interest level thing that you're concerned about.

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Speaker 6: Interest The latter for sure.

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Speaker 4: And and I just may think about the World Cups

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Speaker 4: in the past, think about when American sports fans and

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Speaker 4: just frankly, I'm Americans have gotten into.

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Speaker 6: The World Final four, they've gotten into it.

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Speaker 4: When the United States gets past the group stage. There

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Speaker 4: was the lone example, this last one where you face

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Speaker 4: England and it's, oh my gosh, it's the United States

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Speaker 4: versus England.

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Speaker 6: What a game? Right? What in a moment?

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Speaker 4: And that was a unique case, but overall the masses

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Speaker 4: don't get riled up and don't get into it until

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Speaker 4: the United States gets a little bit deeper, and that

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Speaker 4: if you're waiting until that happens, that's gonna be.

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Speaker 6: Too late for the enthusiasm to kick in.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: See, for me, I don't ride the hopes of this

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Speaker 13: World Cup being a success based off of what Americans

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Speaker 13: rooting for the United States of America see it as,

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Speaker 13: because that is always going to be kind of a

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Speaker 13: secondary thing to me. There are so many people that

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Speaker 13: are US citizens that live here already don't have to

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Speaker 13: do all the visa stuff and move here, that are

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Speaker 13: fans of other countries that are gonna be traveling to

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Speaker 13: those places and going to watch them play, And you

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Speaker 13: would add the ones that are coming in hopefully by

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Speaker 13: the masses. To me, it's gonna be a worldwide hub

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Speaker 13: in each of these spots. I am a little bit

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Speaker 13: like what's gonna happen with having so many different places.

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Speaker 13: Usually it's kind of in one central area, But I

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Speaker 13: almost think that might work better because of how big

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Speaker 13: it's gotten. So I don't hold the same concern. I'm

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Speaker 13: more curious of how it's gonna be. But it's the

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Speaker 13: world's most popular event for a reason, and I don't

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Speaker 13: think it's gonna be any different because it's here in

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Speaker 13: the US this year.

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Speaker 2: You think this barrel chested former baseball player here with

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Speaker 2: a big beard that I think hosts a radio show

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Speaker 2: on KJAR, you think he'd give me his autograph during

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Speaker 2: the Jackson Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I don't know about him, but we might.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we might talk to Bucky if we can pry

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Speaker 2: him away from his lovely bride for a few minutes.

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Speaker 3: We might talk to Bucky.

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Speaker 2: Coming up in the next segment, we're hoping for Mike

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Speaker 2: Holmgren and Kathy Holmgren as well. As we get set

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Speaker 2: to to wrap things up at seven o'clock. Plenty left

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Speaker 2: in the final hour of the show here on ninety

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Speaker 2: three three k JRFM.