Speaker 1: Six, nineteen seven hundred WLW the CINCINNTI Tax Resolution, Power
Speaker 1: by Tope Shot and Roundtable Show. We're in Long Necks
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Speaker 1: love Postman Law. Lance Pacalister, Rocky Boyman. Let's welcome in
Speaker 1: the man who joins us every week. What a treat
Speaker 1: it was to have him joined me last week, sitting
Speaker 1: in that very spot you were in, Rocky, He's all
Speaker 1: over the Bengals for CLNS Sincywithy dot com, host of
Speaker 1: the Jungle Roar podcast on YouTube, the man they call Trags,
Speaker 1: Mike Petralia. How are we doing?
Speaker 2: Lance, Rocky? Thank you very much for having me and Lance.
Speaker 2: It was a terrific meal last week. So I'm still
Speaker 2: savoring that. Believe it or not, There you go.
Speaker 1: Let's let's start with I guess injury news or projections
Speaker 1: to tomorrow night. Trey listed his question, do you believe
Speaker 1: there's any chance he plays to borrow NID?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: I don't think the Bengals are playing games. I think
Speaker 2: they know they need Trey Henderson. It's a hip issue
Speaker 2: and Rocky, you know, those things can be touch and go.
Speaker 3: It can be.
Speaker 2: Cause of backspathom like it did at the end of
Speaker 2: the first half and it locked up and he didn't
Speaker 2: get back in the game. And I don't know how
Speaker 2: much of that was game situation related last Sunday in
Speaker 2: Green Bay. But after I'm sure hours and hours and
Speaker 2: hours of treatment this week, if he can get back
Speaker 2: on the field, I think he will. And as I
Speaker 2: tweeted about a half hour ago, what would make it
Speaker 2: doubly important is it would be only the third time
Speaker 2: this year that the Bengals have had Shamar Stewart and
Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson on the field at the same time.
Speaker 4: I charge one of the surprises, at least for me
Speaker 4: from last week's game, and I don't know how much
Speaker 4: tip off you had coming into that game, but was
Speaker 4: the lack of snaps for Logan Wilson and.
Speaker 3: Barrett cartery Berrick Carr.
Speaker 4: Got sixty one snaps. On one hand, yes, Logan Wilson
Speaker 4: hasn't made a ton of splash plays, but also he
Speaker 4: hasn't been terrible. What was the reason I guess for
Speaker 4: giving Barrett Carter so many snaps? In his first start.
Speaker 2: I think it's forward looking, rocky. I think they think
Speaker 2: that simply Barrett Carter and the Demetrius Knight junior have
Speaker 2: the best opportunity to cover the most space, especially in
Speaker 2: nickel situations. And I think Al Golden, and he even
Speaker 2: acknowledged this to us yesterday, it would rather have those
Speaker 2: two young players get up to speed quickly and pay
Speaker 2: the price of missing a couple of plays. Unfortunately, one
Speaker 2: of those plays resulted in Josh Jacob's parting of the
Speaker 2: sea and running right up the a gap in for
Speaker 2: a fourteen yard touchdown. That was a killer maybe twenty
Speaker 2: four to ten, and Al Golden's like, well, we got
Speaker 2: to live with part of that, I guess to get
Speaker 2: these guys up to I think Logan Wilson is a
Speaker 2: heady player.
Speaker 3: He's a leader.
Speaker 2: Players love being around him in the locker room. But
Speaker 2: the Bengals are making a decision at this point that
Speaker 2: they would trade out the younger speed and quickness rather
Speaker 2: than have Logan Wilson's knowledge and quite frankly, is tackling ability.
Speaker 2: One thing that stood out to me, and it stood
Speaker 2: out to a lot of people. Bengals had nineteen mistackles
Speaker 2: against Green Bay. That's the most in the Zach Taylor era.
Speaker 2: That's saying quite a bit.
Speaker 1: Treggs logan seems a little unclear on the messaging he's
Speaker 1: getting from the coaches with this decision. How is he
Speaker 1: handling all of this that has taken place this week?
Speaker 2: Well, he couldn't have handled it better than he did
Speaker 2: yesterday with us. I was in there, I was in
Speaker 2: the locker room, and the logan was saying, how much
Speaker 2: he's going to pour in to Barrett Carter and make
Speaker 2: sure that he is up to speed on the defense
Speaker 2: is humanly possible because frankly, that's his role as a
Speaker 2: captain on defense. He's one of three captains along with
Speaker 2: bj Hill and Trey Henderson. And sometimes you've got to
Speaker 2: live with going through difficult parts of your career. He
Speaker 2: even got very philosophical and said that when his kids
Speaker 2: grow up, he's going to reflect on a time like
Speaker 2: this where things didn't go his way.
Speaker 3: He got demoted, he.
Speaker 2: Wasn't playing as much as he would like, but still
Speaker 2: he found a way mentally to get through it. And
Speaker 2: that's the way Logan Wilson has always handled things, and
Speaker 2: that's why I think the Bengals keep him around because
Speaker 2: he's not only a heady player, but he's got the
Speaker 2: right temperament in a locker room that can go south
Speaker 2: quick when you've lost four in a row and you've
Speaker 2: just been benched tragers.
Speaker 4: What as Joe Flacco said, if anything, about how much
Speaker 4: more progress can be made now getting a second week
Speaker 4: in this system and learning the burbage and getting comfortable
Speaker 4: with the players here this week.
Speaker 2: I think really what he said yesterday, Rocky was that
Speaker 2: he knows where the receivers, namely Jamar and t are
Speaker 2: going to be when they run their routes.
Speaker 3: I think in that first half, you don't know.
Speaker 2: For sure how the Stars are going to run their
Speaker 2: routes until they run their routes in a game.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco especially, you could see it in the first
Speaker 2: half he didn't feel that comfortable, had very little rhythm.
Speaker 2: They came out, they established the running game, and I
Speaker 2: don't think Flaco felt as rushed, even for a forty
Speaker 2: year old. When you get thrown into a new system
Speaker 2: and in five days are expected to pick up a
Speaker 2: pass first offense, that's a lot to expect, even for
Speaker 2: a guy that has eighteen years of NFL experience. Well,
Speaker 2: he got the first half out of the way. I
Speaker 2: think he acclimated very quickly, and I think he believes
Speaker 2: that he's going to have a much better time tomorrow
Speaker 2: night against the Steelers on a short week because the
Speaker 2: defense doesn't have as much time to prepare what the
Speaker 2: Bengals are going to want to do with Joe Flacco.
Speaker 3: I think he sees that as an advantage. But look,
Speaker 3: I'm old school.
Speaker 2: The Bengals need to run the ball, and their lack
Speaker 2: of pass protection is to me directly related to their
Speaker 2: inability to win at the line of scrimmage and run
Speaker 2: the ball.
Speaker 1: Treggs I said of Joe Flacco last week, and I'll
Speaker 1: say it again this week. Prior to him arriving here,
Speaker 1: I only heard sound bites of him over his career.
Speaker 1: The more I hear him talk in those press conferences,
Speaker 1: the more impressed I am in terms of just how
Speaker 1: wise and reflective and calm he appears to be. What's
Speaker 1: your impression of him from that standpoint?
Speaker 3: Exactly that lamp.
Speaker 2: That he's calm, he doesn't get blustered in the pocket,
Speaker 2: the game doesn't speed up on him, doesn't mean he's
Speaker 2: going to compleat every pass, doesn't mean he's going to
Speaker 2: not miss some passes or you know, throw the ball
Speaker 2: away early when maybe there.
Speaker 3: Was a play to be made. We saw that, I.
Speaker 2: Think once or twice in the first half last week.
Speaker 2: But he doesn't get flustered. And I think when the Bengals,
Speaker 2: the Bengals were smart to go out and get a
Speaker 2: quarterback like Flaco. Yes, he's forty, but he is someone
Speaker 2: you can trust to try and learn the offense as
Speaker 2: quickly as he's been required to learn it, go out
Speaker 2: and execute it.
Speaker 3: And he is a smart quarterback.
Speaker 2: He's a winning quarterback that knows the Steelers, knows the
Speaker 2: AFC North, that carries a lot of value. And if
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is indeed out until the second or third
Speaker 2: week in December, the Bengals, to me, the magic number
Speaker 2: is seven wins. That means, if they can get five
Speaker 2: wins with Joe Flacco, they've got a chance for Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow to come back, maybe run.
Speaker 3: The table go ten and seven.
Speaker 2: I think long term, that's what Joe Flacco gives the
Speaker 2: Bengals a realistic chance of accomplishing.
Speaker 4: I mean, to your guys point, he like has the
Speaker 4: calmness of a serial killer. I mean he really does.
Speaker 4: And Joe Burrow does too. I think that's one thing
Speaker 4: that makes him great. But yeah, Joe Flacco is almost
Speaker 4: expressionless on the sideline, which is probably a good a
Speaker 4: good quality have for a quarterback. Tracks in terms of
Speaker 4: of this Steelers team, what of the Bengals coaches have
Speaker 4: been talking about in terms of you know, you know,
Speaker 4: obviously have a great defense and Aaron Rodgers is playing
Speaker 4: at a high level, but with some specific things they've
Speaker 4: pointed out to how they got a battle against the
Speaker 4: Steelers here tomorrow night.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it starts with their front seven right
Speaker 2: in their front, their front line. Even Jamar Chase said
Speaker 2: that yesterday. They know that they've got to get off
Speaker 2: their releases quick because the Steelers have always had a
Speaker 2: great front. They've always done damage against the Bengals. And
Speaker 2: again I go back, if you have a really good
Speaker 2: physical run attack, you can counter some of that and
Speaker 2: diffuse it a little bit to give your pass blockers
Speaker 2: a little bit more of an honest attempt to.
Speaker 3: Pick up these path rushers.
Speaker 2: If you're dropping back, you know, eight out of ten
Speaker 2: times you're in trouble and Alex high Smith and TJ.
Speaker 3: Watt. They're going to come get you, Damn Hayward.
Speaker 2: Obviously, They've got guys along the front line that are
Speaker 2: game wreckers. That's what they do, and that is the
Speaker 2: strategy of the Steelers and always has been as long
Speaker 2: as Mike Tomlin's been there.
Speaker 3: And I don't expect that to change this week. One
Speaker 3: thing the.
Speaker 2: Steelers have done a very good job of in the
Speaker 2: first in their first five games, going four and one,
Speaker 2: is taking the ball away, something the Bengals have preached
Speaker 2: and desperately wanted from their team, but they haven't done
Speaker 2: it at the rate that the Steelers have.
Speaker 3: And I think obviously that's the key to watch tomorrow night.
Speaker 1: Traig's not to get lost a storyline, not to get
Speaker 1: lost in the shuffle. And maybe for the update for
Speaker 1: those just getting in their car, I have not heard
Speaker 1: the news. Not only are the Bengals going to be
Speaker 1: without Mike Yasicki for a while, but they're without Tanner
Speaker 1: Hudson tomorrow night as well.
Speaker 2: Correct, Right, that's correct, And I'm glad you brought that up, Lance,
Speaker 2: because that means Noah fan stepped into more of a
Speaker 2: primary role. I think a lot of people have been
Speaker 2: disappointed with the production of Noah Fan and want to
Speaker 2: see him pick it up. They know that he's done
Speaker 2: it before with Denver and Seattle. He needs to start
Speaker 2: doing it tomorrow night. He can be a bigger part
Speaker 2: of the offense. And Tanner Hudson suffered the concussion. He's
Speaker 2: in concussion protocol. That is why he will miss He
Speaker 2: has officially been ruled out for Tomorrow night. And obviously
Speaker 2: without Kasiki, who is obviously more of a receiver than
Speaker 2: he is a true tight end, it's going to be
Speaker 2: Noah Fan and Drew Sample and just hope that and
Speaker 2: obviously Cam Grandy he'll be.
Speaker 3: Active as well.
Speaker 2: But you've got to get more from Noah Fan than
Speaker 2: you've got Scotten in the first six weeks of the season.
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Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: I have a feature column up on Stealing s SNC
Speaker 2: with a y dot com on the things that Al
Speaker 2: Golden needs to do to work over his ever improving defense,
Speaker 2: but he still has a lot to fix. That's up
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