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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike SINCEY three sixty about Cincinnati. From Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: this is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Hour two is here since E three sixty on ESPN

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Only one way to get

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Speaker 3: our number two started. We head to Arizona. We had

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Speaker 3: the Red Spring Training to check in with our guy,

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Speaker 3: Charlie Goldsmith joining us live right now.

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Speaker 2: Charlie, what's going on?

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Speaker 4: How are you, Tony?

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Speaker 5: I'm doing great? How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm fantastic, Charlie. Now you may be at spring training,

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Speaker 3: but how excited are you tomorrow even though it's the

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Speaker 3: Cactus League opener to have your eyes on what's going

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Speaker 3: to be happening in Lawrence, Kansas with the Bearcats.

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Speaker 4: My gosh, Yeah, I was.

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Speaker 5: Talking to my dad about the game on Sunday, he

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Speaker 5: was there. His big takeaway was just how invested the fans,

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Speaker 5: the players, the coaches all clearly even though it's a

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Speaker 5: lost season. So I was that warmed my heart to

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Speaker 5: hear that from my dad.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad to hear that. Charlie.

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Speaker 3: Now, what I want to know in this Red Spring training,

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Speaker 3: there's clearly not as many position battles up for grabs.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's a ton of roster spots up

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Speaker 3: for grabs. So when you start the actual gameplay tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: what are some things that you want to see? What

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Speaker 3: are you looking for as spring training continues on?

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Speaker 5: You know what I really want to look for tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: Let me tell you a story. So Chase Burns is

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Speaker 5: going to start the Texas League Open. There he was

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Speaker 5: out here, I guess five days ago or five days

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Speaker 5: from tomorrow, last Tuesday, I believe throwing his second live

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Speaker 5: bulleten of the spring. And Chase Burns is a guy

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Speaker 5: who look up the gifts, like was the celebrator and

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Speaker 5: chess pounder of all time in college, but last year

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Speaker 5: he was one of the most stoic, calm, quiet guys

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Speaker 5: on the Reds and watch him. Oh that live BP

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Speaker 5: last Tuesday, he was pounding his chest, was he was

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Speaker 5: cursing under his breath when he couldn't get Dane Miles

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Speaker 5: to swing through a strike three bastball. And then he

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Speaker 5: reached back and he got that strike three bastball. So

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Speaker 5: if that's chased his mindset on a backfield here, yes, yes, please,

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Speaker 5: I'd like to watch that in a even in a

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Speaker 5: spring training game, because he's clearly fired up.

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Speaker 4: Is that the moment that caused you to tweet Chase

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Speaker 4: Burns eye emojis?

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Speaker 5: That's the moment that caused me to tweet Chase for diamoji.

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Speaker 5: That's spark Day two thousand word feature. I wrote about

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Speaker 5: Chase Burns a few days ago, and like, this is

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Speaker 5: a clicha thing to say in spring Oh, he's got

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Speaker 5: a different presence about him this year, But I think

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Speaker 5: there's a connection to from what I've just described on

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Speaker 5: the mount and how he's carry himself, Like Chase Burns

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Speaker 5: is expressing the fact that he is incredibly high expectations

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Speaker 5: for what he can do right now, and frankly, he

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Speaker 5: might be one of the most talented people on this

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Speaker 5: team and one of the most talented young pitchers.

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Speaker 3: And all these you mentioned the way he carries himself.

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Speaker 3: Have you seen that more as a team for the

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Speaker 3: Reds at spring training? Does this feel like a more

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Speaker 3: confident team? Does it feel like they've carried themselves differently

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Speaker 3: thus far through spring training?

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Speaker 5: Yes, you know, we've talked about kind of how early

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Speaker 5: they're getting here, just how hard they're working how focused

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Speaker 5: the work is. I'll take this as an opportunity to

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Speaker 5: talk about TJ Friedel and Spencer Spear, where I talked

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Speaker 5: to each of them about this yesterday. They're always in

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Speaker 5: the middle of everything. And you talk about, you know,

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Speaker 5: the message of the year being it's time, Well, that

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Speaker 5: means different things for different people. You know, for some guys,

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Speaker 5: it's time to be a good player. For Steering, For Friedel,

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Speaker 5: it's kind of time for them to make this their team.

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Speaker 5: And they're they're two really impressive leaders. Like Kirk Kistali

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Speaker 5: told me when Steer was a rookie, this guy has

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Speaker 5: the factor from a leadership perspective. Tj obviously everyone looks

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Speaker 5: up to the way he plays. It's kind of been

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Speaker 4: What's a day for Spencer Steer like? With him playing

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Speaker 4: so many different positions and being expected to play so

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Speaker 4: different types of work that he's been getting it just

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Speaker 4: bouncing around the different spots. Like, what's it been like

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Speaker 4: for steer trying to work on all those things at once,

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Speaker 5: So like yesterday when they did I believe relay throws

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Speaker 5: kind of in that ten to fifteen spot in the schedule,

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Speaker 5: he was working out at second base. And then today

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Speaker 5: when they were doing pop up priority, you know, working

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Speaker 5: on the I Got It stuff between the infielder and neilfielders,

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Speaker 5: he was in the left and now some days at

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Speaker 5: the end of the day then he'll catch up on

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Speaker 5: a position. Hemit, he's really not working much at all

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Speaker 5: at first base. Ideally, if everyone's healthy, left is his spot.

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Speaker 5: And then I spoke with him yesterday. He's really motivated

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Speaker 5: and he's a chip on his shoulder to be this

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Speaker 5: And I said to him, like, you've got to be

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Speaker 5: the only everyday player in the league who's that motivated

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Speaker 5: to be a backup at a spot. But he is,

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Speaker 5: and a story with him has been helped the last

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Speaker 5: two years. He says he needs to remind everyone what

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Speaker 5: he can do and he's healthy, and if that's the case,

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Speaker 5: then the power and the ability to play second base,

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Speaker 5: he says, we'll come.

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Speaker 2: It's been a.

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Speaker 3: Really cool follow up of storylines throughout spring training. And

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Speaker 3: one of the stories that I think is worth noting

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Speaker 3: is that of tj Antone and what he has battled

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Speaker 3: back from. He's writing a book. But as it relates

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Speaker 3: to tj and Tone, is there a roster spot up

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Speaker 3: for Grams for him outside of what an awesome story

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Speaker 3: it is and the work that it's taken him to

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Speaker 3: get back. Does he have a role on this team

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Speaker 3: that can help You've heard me.

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Speaker 5: Say this, My biggest concern for the Reds is that

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Speaker 5: even though the roster battles for the true spots on

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Speaker 5: the opening day roster are the best I've seen in

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Speaker 5: a lot. You know my time, I'm doing this six years,

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Speaker 5: the depth beyond that is probably the most concerned I've

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Speaker 5: been their overall pitching depths. When you get passed like

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Speaker 5: the top eight in the rotation, in the top twelve

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Speaker 5: in the bullpen, and you need fifteen starters twenty relievers

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Speaker 5: to get to a season like you need that depth.

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Speaker 5: Antone I would describe his presence on the mound is

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Speaker 5: he's carrying himself like twenty twenty oney TJ Antone in

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Speaker 5: terms of like the whole thing is I'm just gonna

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Speaker 5: the hook curveball. Now the stuff isn't quite what it was,

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Speaker 5: the velocity isn't quite what it was, and the command

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Speaker 5: isn't something that you know. We'll see how that progresses

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Speaker 5: up the spring. It's still so early. But if he

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Speaker 5: can be good enough to improve your depth, that really matters.

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Speaker 3: From from an offensive standpoint, where do you think the

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Speaker 3: Is JJ Blede in a roster battle? Is Will Benson

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Speaker 3: down to that last spot? How do you view that

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Speaker 3: that competition playing out?

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Speaker 5: I think I think kind of the news of the

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Speaker 5: week was Tary Francona talking about Benson saying like we

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Speaker 5: see him kind of filling some of Gavin Lux's role,

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Speaker 5: and Thedo didn't say this, and things could change in

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Speaker 5: the spring, but the way he talked about Benson, how

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Speaker 5: the club. One spot will go to a backup centerfielder

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Speaker 5: who's right handed. That'll be Dane Myers or Blake Done

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Speaker 5: both elite speed. Dane I think would have the edge.

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Speaker 5: He's more experienced. He has crushed Lefty, but you're ready

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Speaker 5: for your overreaction to the spring like flake counts crushing

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Speaker 5: real game action. And then that would leave one true

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Speaker 5: bench spot for Nate Lowe, for JJ Bladay, Michael Toliah,

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Speaker 5: Michael Genis like guys like that. I'm gonna be writing

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Speaker 5: more about all this this week, and they're they're all like,

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Speaker 5: they've all been good recently. They weren't good last year.

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Speaker 5: That's why the competing for oster spots. But each guy

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Speaker 5: has had a very interesting journey and different people could

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Speaker 5: but you can make a case for him, just like

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Speaker 5: you can make the case for any of these guys.

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Speaker 4: Is there anything like specific that the Reds are looking

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Speaker 4: anything specific? It feels like they're looking for from those guys.

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Speaker 5: Well, for everyone, it's different. Like I mentioned Ree times

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Speaker 5: Bloday has to show that just his old overall athleticism

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Speaker 5: each guy, it's a different thing that the games won't

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Speaker 5: tell you, but it's just to feel the eye test.

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Speaker 5: How are these guys? Who are these guys? That's what

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Speaker 5: that's what you evaluate in the springs.

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Speaker 3: You are doing extensive work right now on the reds

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Speaker 3: bullpen A deep dive, a deep dive, as you put it,

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Speaker 3: and you started with a guy in Tony Santion that

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Speaker 3: still as we sit here today, I don't think gets

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Speaker 3: credit for the season he had last year. Divulge into

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Speaker 3: that a little bit about Tony Santion's role with this

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Speaker 3: this year.

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Speaker 5: First, let me apologize for the length of that story,

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Speaker 5: almost data six part series on the Red Bullpen, and

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Speaker 5: I said, you know what, let me just make this

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Speaker 5: one email. And so, for logistic reasons, the hope there

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Speaker 5: was kind of like if it's spring training and you're like,

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Speaker 5: who's taking day and you can click that story Sancia,

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Speaker 5: I'm just gonna tell my favorite Tony Sancian story. Do

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Speaker 5: you remember like the crazy home run over the foulful

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Speaker 5: that PCA hit against the reds last Maybe you maybe

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Speaker 5: it don't. He like flips the bat, pounds of chests,

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Speaker 5: like all kinds of crazy stuff. Like it was like

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Speaker 5: a star making moment for PCA early in the seasons.

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Speaker 5: I talked with Tony about that later in the year

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Speaker 5: in last September. He said, I was tipping my pitches

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Speaker 5: that day. I fixed it and I was thinking about

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Speaker 5: that moment all year. And then flash forward to the

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Speaker 5: Final Sunday, the second last Sunday, the final week of

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Speaker 4: Big news of the day, Charlie, you may have missed

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Speaker 5: So we have you know, usually what you'll see is

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Speaker 5: Do we get some answers on Marshmallow? Do the Reds

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Speaker 3: I have to ask because I love promoting everything you're

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Speaker 7: Uh you?

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Speaker 3: You had the statistic earlier today about TJ. Friedel and

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Speaker 5: He didn't have to year he wanted defensively last year.

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Speaker 5: The right to do have more depths that they'll see

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Speaker 3: Charlie Man, you set the tone for every Friday for

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Speaker 5: You know what, I've been laying a decision. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: I like the Maga dive.

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Speaker 5: There you go.

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Speaker 2: I like the Maga dive.

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Speaker 4: When do you go to sleep? Do you sleep out

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Speaker 5: So that's the key. I get ten hours of sleep.

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Speaker 5: I get ten hours of sleep at night out here.

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Speaker 2: Incredible Charlie's chalkboard. Go check it out.

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Speaker 3: Charlie, thanks so much as always for your time, man,

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Speaker 3: and we'll talk again next week.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy your time.

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Speaker 5: Talk to you next week. Thank guys.

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Speaker 4: There he is just simply the best. Maybe we'll get

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Speaker 4: All I can think about is Matt McLean. He's supposed

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Speaker 4: You'd better show up.

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Speaker 3: By the way, brief update, Canada ended up winning that match.

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Speaker 8: play those talkbacks on your screen and please try not

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Speaker 8: to sabotage all.

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Speaker 2: Right, here we go.

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Speaker 3: It is the Friday edition of your talkbacks right here

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Speaker 3: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Austin, Tony, it's Jeff Happy for today.

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Speaker 5: Hey.

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Speaker 7: So, Austin, question for you, if I were to set

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Speaker 7: the line at twenty percent, would you take the over

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Speaker 7: or the under on Max Crosby being a Bengal this year? Tony,

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Speaker 7: my question for you, Mick Cronan becomes available, would he

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Speaker 7: become your number one target for UC's next basketball coach?

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Speaker 2: Take care, Austin, I'll let you go first.

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Speaker 4: I would take the under on Max Crosby being a bank.

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Speaker 3: I would also say no to Mick. Like I know

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Speaker 3: a lot of people, I respect the heck out of

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Speaker 3: McK cronan. I just I don't think that's the best

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Speaker 3: path forward for the Bearcats.

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Speaker 2: So that would be out.

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Speaker 7: It's the double dipper non gipper here. And to answer

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Speaker 7: your questions, Austin, I would go with the over on

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Speaker 7: Max Crosby just by a slight hit and Tony. I

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Speaker 7: would not bring Mick Cronan back. Yeah, he had one

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Speaker 7: sweet sixteen and twelve years. I think the fan base

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Speaker 7: deserves better than that. I would not bring him back.

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Speaker 7: You guys have a great weekend.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 9: We agree, Greg Sharonville, Greg Austin. Two big games this weekend. Saturday,

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Speaker 9: my Bearcats against Kansas is the Allen field House Sunday

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Speaker 9: Bearcat Hall of Famers te P fifteens game. Doesn't get

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Speaker 9: much better than now.

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Speaker 3: We are, as they say, right now, we're scrambling a

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Speaker 3: little bit. Devin, big part of the team. Hamstring injury

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Speaker 3: presumed out. Our number one donor friend, hamstring injury presumed out.

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Speaker 3: We're picking the pieces up right now for a two

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Speaker 3: o'clock you know, huge two o'clock game.

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Speaker 4: First of all, day, I'm a little offended. My phone

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Speaker 4: hasn't ranged. Second of all, this is a great opportunity

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Speaker 4: for James repeat, he's not getting the call. Why not?

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Speaker 3: Because I think there's only one or two weeks left

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Speaker 3: in the regular season and into play in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: You have to have played a certain amount of the

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Speaker 3: regular season, so we have to play with guys that

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Speaker 3: have already been on the roster. Yeah, like James still

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Speaker 3: wouldn't be the call. I played with four before I

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Speaker 3: got James involved.

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Speaker 10: You mentioned that you were looking for Uh Doug got

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Speaker 10: the other day. Well, I took over his time. Thought

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Speaker 10: he wanted to focus on basketball. Uh So Stu got

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Speaker 10: some friends. I laugh at things that are funny and

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Speaker 10: aren't funny.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I've ever heard sts.

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Speaker 2: On the radio.

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Speaker 11: This is DJ, and I think with Darren Peterson is

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Speaker 11: everything that's wrong with sports today. Good luck to the

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Speaker 11: NBA team the drafts that clown and I'll be rooting

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Speaker 11: for him to fail.

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Speaker 4: On the flip.

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Speaker 11: Side, the us A women's hockey yesterday was one of

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Speaker 11: the most exciting events I've ever seen. Yep and emotional,

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Speaker 11: and those women will be far richer for their experience.

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Speaker 4: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm going to I'm gonna try to get the

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Speaker 3: Darren Peterson side of things today with Bob Manjing.

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Speaker 4: How much do you get per gold medal?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Pretty decent chunk of changes.

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Speaker 2: And I think like endorsement wise and stuff helps out

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Speaker 2: a lot.

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Speaker 8: Hello, this is former President Ronald Reagan. And will let's

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Speaker 8: end this week with a start, bench cut, make a

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Speaker 8: hole in one, see the Bengals win the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 8: or eat and drink anything you want and not gain

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Speaker 8: any weight.

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Speaker 3: I'd go Bengals win the Super Bowl. I'd bench it

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Speaker 3: in a hole in one, and I'd cut eating and drinking.

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Speaker 4: I would start the Bengals. I would bench eating and

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Speaker 4: drinking because I've been fat my whole life and I

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Speaker 4: don't want to do that. And I would cut a

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Speaker 4: hole in one.

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Speaker 12: Well, another week down, another week closer, thirty four branding

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Speaker 12: calls in days away from opening day.

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Speaker 4: Oh I'm not familiar.

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Speaker 12: Oh the flip has switched for me as well, Tony.

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Speaker 12: But three on three is no way to decide Olympic

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Speaker 12: semifinal games or the gold medal game on Sunday. The

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Speaker 12: NHL plays three on three because they play eighty two

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Speaker 12: games a season every four years. We can play regular

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Speaker 12: sudden depth over time and it's not going to hurt

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Speaker 12: these guys.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: There's something about was the lone dissenting voice I saw

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Speaker 4: yesterday complaining after the United States.

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Speaker 3: There is something about the three on three that I

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Speaker 3: think is fascinating.

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Speaker 4: I like it. I enjoy it, especially as a casual

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Speaker 4: hockey fan yep, and not someone who watches every day,

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Speaker 4: which a lot of these people are. I think it's

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Speaker 4: it's good.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Hi, Tony and Austin. Happy Friday. That women's hockey

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Speaker 13: game last night was just premier yep.

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Speaker 4: I mean you couldn't have.

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Speaker 13: Had a better, better Gold medal game both those teams.

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Speaker 13: I hated to see a loser, but I was so

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Speaker 13: oneted the United States to come out on top, and

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Speaker 13: they did. And the goalies on both teams, if there'd

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Speaker 13: been an MVP, they would have had to share it.

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Speaker 13: What a game. I'm so proud of them, So yay

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Speaker 13: Okay and Austin, Yeah, one more thing, Austin, when you

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Speaker 13: said you heard the office erupt in cheers, I mean

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Speaker 13: that gave me chills. So thanks for sharing that and.

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Speaker 2: Go u s A. Yes.

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Speaker 14: Yes, Why should you never brush your teeth with your

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Speaker 14: left hand.

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Speaker 4: Because the toothbrush works better?

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Speaker 6: Austin Steve from West Junior. Yes, Austin, that dude, Austin,

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Speaker 6: you are the Tom Holman of sports broadcasting. Coincidentally, you

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Speaker 6: both look the same, unbelievable. Have you ever tried government service?

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Speaker 4: Big I don't know who Tom Holman is home Tom

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Speaker 4: an audience, Neil Diamond.

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Speaker 15: I just wanted to say how disappointed I was that

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Speaker 15: I wasn't included in the twenty twenty sixth Cincinnati Red's

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Speaker 15: postgame concert series. I thought I might have had an

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Speaker 15: inside track when I was in the hot tub with

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Speaker 15: Jeremy Row the other day, but apparently things didn't work

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Speaker 15: out well.

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Speaker 4: Better luck next year. Oh wow, nicely done, Neil, Nope.

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Speaker 2: What's up? TP and Audi TV?

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Speaker 16: Simon hope everyone by now got to catch that women's

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Speaker 16: hockey gold medal match yesterday.

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Speaker 2: That was freaking awesome.

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Speaker 16: An't epic comeback as good as that wind was, though

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Speaker 16: the anthem afterward was sweet. You see the countries that

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Speaker 16: are stadiums around the world busting out their anthems other

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Speaker 16: than chanting USA Americans sort of laying out and it

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Speaker 16: comes our anthem. It get It's not an easy song,

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Speaker 16: the saying, but you don't have to sound good, just

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Speaker 16: sing it. Reds games nope, Bengals games, nope.

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Speaker 2: We just listened.

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Speaker 16: So to hear that arena belting out our anthem that

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Speaker 16: was icing was awesome of victory.

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Speaker 2: It was awesome part of the coolest moment.

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Speaker 14: Anthems are yeah tonyo since Jack Over in college. There's

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Speaker 14: something I've noticed is everyone with Elon musk money is

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Speaker 14: starting to get noticed with a certain island. So I'm

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Speaker 14: personally fine sticking to my day job, not.

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Speaker 2: Owning the Bengals. But I don't know what do you

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Speaker 2: guys think that you put a question.

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Speaker 6: For you, Greg.

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Speaker 17: Friday. It's time for the fastest thirty seconds of NASCAR

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Speaker 17: right here on sincey three sixty. As we head down

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Speaker 17: to Echo Park Speedway in Atlanta. This thing is gonna

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Speaker 17: be a brutal race. It runs a lot like a Daytona,

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Speaker 17: like a super speedway with a recent repaving. You got

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Speaker 17: to be a wheel man to get this thing done.

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Speaker 17: Look for Ryan Blaney and his epic musclestache to take

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Speaker 17: this thing into victory Lane. Eight top ten finishes in

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Speaker 17: the last ten races could be any Penske car. But

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Speaker 17: just like a super speed way, this thing could be

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Speaker 17: anybody's racist.

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Speaker 4: Make sure you tune in. This is going to be

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Speaker 4: a good one.

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Speaker 6: Wow.

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Speaker 2: How about that?

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Speaker 4: Big?

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Speaker 2: I love it?

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: I hope Jay Spurns has a great year. I said

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Speaker 18: last year he was the future hopefully you can prove

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Speaker 18: me right. I love US women's hockey team, outstanding the

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Speaker 18: men's team. We need to bring home to gold too.

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Speaker 18: I thought the Mike credit and stuff was really funny.

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Speaker 2: It made me laugh.

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Speaker 18: I know it's not funny if you're the reporter.

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Speaker 2: I don't know the reporters had a good laugh about

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Speaker 2: it by now too, I would.

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Speaker 4: Think, I mean, especially because everyone's all like yeah, everyone's yeah, yeah, so,

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Speaker 4: which actually takes me to a topic that was our

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Speaker 4: last one. Did you see the one Olympian that kind

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Speaker 4: of went after a reporter? Eileen Goo with her response, No, okay,

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Speaker 4: she's a female freestyle skier. She's the most decorated one

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Speaker 4: in history. She was asked what I thought was a

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Speaker 4: pretty fair question. We can play it when we come back, right.

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Speaker 2: That happens next.

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Speaker 4: I want to get your reaction.

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Speaker 3: We've got two segments left in our number two. Then

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Speaker 3: we'll get to Tommy g to start our number three

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Speaker 3: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Welcome back since

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Speaker 3: he three sixty ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. You

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Speaker 3: mentioned some audio before we went to break Austin.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, i'd a little bit of background here. So this

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Speaker 4: is an Olympic freestyle skier by the name of Eileen Goo.

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Speaker 8: Okay.

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Speaker 4: She was born in California, raised in America. Her mother

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Speaker 4: is Chinese, and so she has the ability to and

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Speaker 4: chooses to compete on behalf of China in the Olympics.

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Speaker 4: So she's competing for.

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Speaker 2: Has she has she competed for the US before?

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Speaker 4: No, I don't care. So I think you can only

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Speaker 4: choose to compete for one country. Okay, I might be

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Speaker 4: wrong either way. She represents China and freestyle skiing. I

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Speaker 4: in just reading up on her in this commercial break,

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Speaker 4: realized that apparently she's been a part of a lot

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Speaker 4: of controversy because of the fact that she chose to

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Speaker 4: represent China. There's been I think President Trump and Jade

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Speaker 4: Vance and others have been very critical of her for

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Speaker 4: doing this, and as we know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 4: stuff going on between the United States and China. But

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Speaker 4: so because she's so popular, she's getting a lot of attention.

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Speaker 4: On top of that, she is the most decorated female

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Speaker 4: freestyle skier in Olympic history, with multiple gold medals, and

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Speaker 4: so she was asked this question yesterday and I'm just

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Speaker 4: curious what you think about the question and about the answer.

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Speaker 1: Do you see these as two silvers gained or two

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Speaker 1: goals lost.

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Speaker 19: I'm the most decorated free female free skier in history.

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Speaker 19: I think that's an answer in and of itself.

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Speaker 2: How do I say this?

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Speaker 19: Winning a medal at the Olympics is a life changing

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Speaker 19: experience for every athlete. Doing it five times is exponentially harder,

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Speaker 19: because every medal is equally hard for me, But everybody

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Speaker 19: else's expectations rise, right, and so the two medals lost situation,

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Speaker 19: to be quite frank with you, I think is kind

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Speaker 19: of a ridiculous perspective to take. I'm showcasing my best skiing.

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Speaker 19: I'm doing things that quite literally have never been done before,

662
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Speaker 19: and so I think that is more than good enough.

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Speaker 2: But I mean it's pretty impressive.

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Speaker 4: Yeah too.

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Speaker 3: I think it's an understanding of I think sometimes we

666
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Speaker 3: get caught up and just wanting to olymp gold that you

667
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 3: don't realize the hours, the time, the competition. I mean,

668
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Speaker 3: think of how many athletes in any country are working

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Speaker 3: to make the Olympic team, or just have a chance

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Speaker 3: to make the Olympic team, let alone get to the

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Speaker 3: Olympic games and then have a chance to be one

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Speaker 3: of the top three in the world at what you do.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask the me play the question again.

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Speaker 5: Also, do you see these as two silvers gained or

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Speaker 5: two goals lost?

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Speaker 6: So, like.

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Speaker 4: This reporter knows, right, she's the most decorated Olympian of

678
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Speaker 4: all time. Yeah, she's one of the greatest that has

679
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Speaker 4: ever done this sport. And you know, you talked about

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Speaker 4: the kid from Kansas the other day and about that

681
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Speaker 4: mentality of competitive greatness and so to me, and I

682
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Speaker 4: don't know. I did not know any of the political

683
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Speaker 4: stuff around her until literally two minutes ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and reading like you said, but her father.

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Speaker 4: I heard it this morning and I was like, I

686
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Speaker 4: don't really love that answer because I think it's a

687
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Speaker 4: good question where he's like, do you view this as

688
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Speaker 4: somebody who's been so successful? Do you view this as

689
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Speaker 4: I got two more silvers or damn I missed to

690
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Speaker 4: miss two golds. And he's asking a great athlete how

691
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Speaker 4: their mentality works with the results that they got. And

692
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Speaker 4: this reporter, I don't know who he is, I don't

693
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Speaker 4: know where he's from. He's kind of getting dunked on

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Speaker 4: by people across the world right now, And I don't

695
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Speaker 4: get it because number one, if you think it's a

696
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Speaker 4: bad question, you elicted a really good answer, and so

697
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Speaker 4: there's no such thing as a bad question when you

698
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Speaker 4: get a good answer. And number two, she kind of

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Speaker 4: answered it in like explained where he was coming from

700
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Speaker 4: in her answer, and a lot of people are kind

701
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Speaker 4: of posing it as like this this reporter being a

702
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Speaker 4: misogynist and she's dunking on men and bah blah blah.

703
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Speaker 4: I just I thought it was a good question and

704
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Speaker 4: a fair question, and I thought she was a little

705
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Speaker 4: bit over the top in her response.

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Speaker 3: I think it's always going to be into everything's going

707
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Speaker 3: to be analyzed in so many different ways. Yeah, I

708
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Speaker 3: instead of I think it's a it's a good question,

709
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Speaker 3: I think her response tries to go a little bit

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Speaker 3: deeper into almost pushing back immediately of well, what do

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Speaker 3: you mean I'm.

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Speaker 2: The most decorated.

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Speaker 3: But it is like there's a difference, I mean, asked

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Speaker 3: Michael Phelps, right, like the greatest ever asked the difference

715
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Speaker 3: to Michael Phelps of you know, one of the most

716
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Speaker 3: decorated or one of the best ever to do it.

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Speaker 3: There's a fine line between that, like.

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Speaker 4: I think of that famous Kobe Bryant press conference where

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Speaker 4: they were up with they were up three games, yeah,

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Speaker 4: and not a smile, and they're like, he says job's

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Speaker 4: not finished. He had played great, they had won three games,

722
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Speaker 4: like they're on the verge of winning the NBA Finals

723
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Speaker 4: three to zero. He says Job's not finished. And we

724
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Speaker 4: praise Kobe for that mentality, We praise Michael for that mentality. Yeah,

725
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Speaker 4: we love that. And so I think him kind of

726
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Speaker 4: know asking and trying to dig into that mentality I

727
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Speaker 4: think is fair. I didn't love her answer. I get

728
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Speaker 4: both sides of it, but yeah, that was just I

729
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 4: heard that this morning and I was like, why are

730
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Speaker 4: people dunking on this?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And I think probably for her everything has turned now

733
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Speaker 3: because she's again it's not like she she just up

734
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Speaker 3: and decided that she's not going to be competing for USA.

735
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Speaker 3: She has an American father and a Chinese mother, so

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Speaker 3: she has just as much right to compete for who

737
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Speaker 3: she wants to correct. But in this world, I think

738
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Speaker 3: she's probably so consumed with the backlash she's now getting

739
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Speaker 3: politically sure that it probably takes away a little bit

740
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Speaker 3: of probably puts her guard up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think just to meaning Okay, well now

743
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Speaker 3: you almost feel attacked all the time. Yeah, but interesting. Nonetheless,

744
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 3: let's there's a couple of college basketball things that I

745
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 3: jotted down that I want to get to as well

746
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Speaker 3: before we h we get to our number three. We'll

747
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Speaker 3: do that next on this the Home of the Bengals,

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 2: Station, Wine, I gotta have some fun tonight.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back since he three sixty ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Sports Station. One more segment here and then we'll roll

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Speaker 3: into our number three, loaded with guests. Tom Gallader kicks

753
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Speaker 3: off the hour. Bob man Jean will join us from

754
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Speaker 3: UC and Novacare. We'll expand a little bit more on

755
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Speaker 3: Darren Peterson, who is under a lot of scrutiny this week.

756
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 3: We'll actually get if there's a side of Darren Peterson

757
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Speaker 3: maybe we're not understanding here. We'll try to do that

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Speaker 3: with Bob Manjen and Mowager. Of course, we'll stop by

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Speaker 3: for quick hits. All still to come in the third

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Speaker 3: and final hour. But speaking of draftable college players, Brian

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Speaker 3: Windhorst from ESPN said this, Austin NBA teams. We talked

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Speaker 3: earlier about changing up the NBA draft.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 3: NBA teams have said they would be willing to pay

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Speaker 3: up to one hundred million dollars for the number one

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Speaker 3: pick if it were allowed.

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Speaker 4: Said quote.

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Speaker 3: I had an executive tell me that the number one

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Speaker 3: pick this year would be worth one hundred million if

770
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Speaker 3: you gave the opportunity to buy the pick. Teams would

771
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Speaker 3: pay one hundred million for it. Wow, he said, keep

772
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Speaker 3: that in mind because the Jazz were just fined five

773
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Speaker 3: hundred thousand for tanking.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 3: Could you imagine a lottery system in that way? All right,

776
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Speaker 3: number one pick goes to the highest bidder.

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Speaker 4: Wow, where would the money go?

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Speaker 2: That's that's what was my follow up question. Not so

779
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Speaker 2: I like to what do you do with the money?

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Speaker 4: I'm sure the players Association is interested in it.

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Speaker 2: What do you do with the money?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Man, that's a I have no idea. Never even

783
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Speaker 4: consider something.

784
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Speaker 2: Like crazy though, right, Yeah, one hundred million.

785
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Speaker 4: But just goes to show how much they value it.

786
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Speaker 4: And if that's the case, okay, with losing games, who

787
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Speaker 4: do they view as that one hundred million dollar?

788
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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 4: Good question, Bruce Thornton.

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Speaker 3: Probably O I saw this as well, And I feel

791
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Speaker 3: bad because I like Penny Hardaway. Did you see it

792
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Speaker 3: all yesterday Penny Hardaway's postgame press conference. No, he was crying. Oh,

793
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 3: he was moved to tears.

794
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Speaker 4: Been there.

795
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Speaker 3: They lost to USF. It is their third straight loss,

796
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Speaker 3: and it was a loss in which it unraveled. They

797
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 3: didn't lose by a small margin. They lost eighty seven

798
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Speaker 3: to sixty six. Memphis is seven and six in the

799
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Speaker 3: American Athletic Conference. There are twelve and fourteen overall. Penny

800
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Speaker 3: Hardaway said, quote, I wanted the game.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 3: He took a long moment to gather himself. He just said,

803
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Speaker 3: I just want the game and was kind of hitting

804
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Speaker 3: his hands on the table. And it's clearly a distraught

805
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Speaker 3: Penny Hardaway. It's the first year under Penny at Memphis

806
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Speaker 3: that they they're not going to get twenty wins. It's

807
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Speaker 3: the second time in three years that they're probably not

808
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 3: going to make the NCAAAA tournament. What do you make

809
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Speaker 3: of not just Penny itself, Austin, what a week it's

810
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 3: been for college basketball coaches? Right, Jerome Tang was let go,

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Speaker 3: Mick Cronin had his meltdown.

812
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Speaker 4: I just saw that Mick Cronin is like met with

813
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Speaker 4: the media at UCLA and apparently apologized to the player

814
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 4: from Michigan State that he was talking to, but it

815
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Speaker 4: does not appear he has apologized to the reporter.

816
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Speaker 3: But like we've seen this, We saw Andy Kennedy kind

817
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 3: of go at as players earlier in the week because

818
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 3: they were ten to twenty two from layups. It is

819
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Speaker 3: just it's to me, I feel like, now more than ever,

820
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Speaker 3: we're seeing the weight that these college basketball coaches are carrying,

821
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Speaker 3: and it feels like it's breaking some of them. And

822
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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's if this is a Penny

823
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Speaker 3: hardway that feels like his job is now in jeopardy,

824
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Speaker 3: which it very well could be. I also think there's

825
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Speaker 3: something to it as well, though, because now as a

826
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Speaker 3: college coach, you're not just dealing with the athletes. Who

827
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Speaker 3: else are you dealing with the donors?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: You get these guys that are paying millions of dollars

830
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Speaker 3: to your program. You don't think you're having to answer

831
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Speaker 3: to them too. You don't think you have to asking

832
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Speaker 3: these these donors or I just I gave you two

833
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Speaker 3: million dollars, what's that being used for? We're twelve and

834
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Speaker 3: fourteen on the year. I just I feel like, and again,

835
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Speaker 3: coaches are compensated really well, but I feel like this year,

836
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Speaker 3: more than ever, we are seeing the grind that this

837
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Speaker 3: era of college basketball is starting to have on coaches.

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Speaker 3: I mean, as whatever you think of Bill Self, I

839
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Speaker 3: think you could take away earlier in the week from

840
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Speaker 3: Bill self that he was kind of struggling in the

841
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Speaker 3: postgame press conference, like I don't know what to do

842
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Speaker 3: at this point.

843
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Speaker 2: I just feel like it's.

844
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Speaker 3: A unique time in collegiate sports and in college basketball itself.

845
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Speaker 3: Because I mentioned earlier, you've seen coaches that have just

846
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 3: kind of said, you know, screw it, I'm out, I'm done,

847
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 3: I'm walking away. You've seen coaches that embraced it. You've

848
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 3: seen coaches that try, like Dabo Sweeney just tries not

849
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 3: to even mess with the trans But it's just I

850
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 3: feel like the weight of all that is starting to

851
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 3: weigh on some of these guys. I mean, Penny Hardaway

852
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 3: unbelievable NBA career, injuries plagued him, has done a good

853
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 3: job at Memphis, never really got over the hump, but

854
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 3: you just see I mean, we saw it with Wes

855
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 3: Miller earlier in the year. We've seen it here locally

856
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 3: with Richard Patino not breaking down mentally, but amongst the

857
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 3: season where they're hovering right around five hundred. Richard Patino's

858
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 3: going on his radio show and saying, we need more money.

859
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Speaker 3: If you want to get this turned around, we need this.

860
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 3: He's openly honest. I just I don't know if I

861
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Speaker 3: like it. I don't know if I hate it. But

862
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 3: it's interesting nonetheless, kind of what's happening in men's and

863
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 3: women's collegiate sports right now and kind of what we're

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Speaker 3: seeing because of it at the college basketball ranks. What

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Speaker 3: a crazy week it's been in college basketball. We've still

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Speaker 3: got one full hour remaining on this show. Tom Gallader

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Speaker 3: will preview, Well, we'll look back at a four nil

868
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Speaker 3: victory over the last couple of days. We'll look ahead

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Speaker 3: to Atlanta coming into TQL Stadium for a unique four

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Speaker 3: to forty five start tomorrow. Bob Man Jean will join

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Speaker 3: us before they take off to Kansas to talk about

872
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Speaker 3: cramping and the issues that that could cause throughout the body,

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Speaker 3: and of course Bob Man Moeger will stand by to

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Speaker 3: join us ahead of the Moeger Show it's all still

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Speaker 3: ahead right here on the home of the Bengals, ESPN

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station Net