1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: Shelby Harris is shooty with me. Dave will belong here shortly, 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: shall be good to see. 3 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 2: How are you man, doing good? 4 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 3: Doing real good? How are we doing today? 5 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 2: We're doing rights. 6 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: There's an acknowledgement that we should be out in San 7 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Francisco right now. 8 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 2: But we can live with that. We can live we 9 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: can live with the reality of it. 10 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: I just don't need I think about the show today, 11 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: and I was thinking, you know, Shelby was pretty adamant 12 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: last time we saw him that the Broncos were in 13 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: for a tough sort of a root awakening in that game. 14 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: So you know, know that the Broncos fans are still 15 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: ailing a little bit. I don't know if you want 16 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: to be and I told you so kind of mindset 17 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: like Ben al Bright I told you so kind of mindset. 18 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: But you know, maybe maybe you take the high road 19 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: and and you just say, hey, you know, you play 20 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: a heck of a game. 21 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 2: I don't know what you want to say. 22 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 3: It's a great season. 23 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 4: Even with that game, With all considered you you really 24 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 4: can't be that down except for the fact of you 25 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 4: feel like it might have gotten away from you. Even 26 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 4: with Jared Sipam playing and playing quote a bit. But 27 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 4: regardless though, you took the AFC champions pretty much to 28 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 4: the to the brink and you were missing, you know, 29 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 4: pretty much one of your most dynamic players. 30 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: You think they win that game with bon Nicks. 31 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 4: You can't do that. Come on, Football is like the 32 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 4: one sport where it's like, uh, you know, because then 33 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 4: the whole game plan is different. But the way that 34 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 4: defense was playing, if they can get two touchdowns, it's over. 35 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: So you would have for a fourth down. 36 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 3: No. 37 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 4: Well, also because if you knew the weather was going 38 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 4: to be like that end of the game, you had 39 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 4: to take all the points you could. 40 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 5: My friend, you guys too, we can help Shelby. They 41 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 5: absolutely win with bon Nicks. Yeah, absolutely win. That's how 42 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 5: I feel. Well, we can say that. But sometimes it's 43 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 5: like looking up a dead horse's ass. Seriously, the horse 44 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 5: died and now you wouldn't find out what the horse 45 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 5: died from. The horse is dead, the horse is gone. 46 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 5: You ain't riding that horse no more. Right, move on. 47 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: You're talking about even talking about the game. Is that 48 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 2: what your reference? 49 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 5: I'm just one of my bitter moments, I guess, okay, 50 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 5: I mean I still think about that game it's like, 51 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 5: well and. 52 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: I so I sort of opened the show with that, 53 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: like we could be out there broadcasting from Radio Row today. 54 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: That was that was my hope. 55 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 3: That was my would be out there like all week? 56 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 3: Were we really? Yeah? Monday? Monday and Monday pretty much? 57 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 3: Huh we weren't we? 58 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 6: No? 59 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 5: Whatever the team left, I would have left with the team. 60 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 5: So I imagine they like yesterday, right pretty much? 61 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: I think left. 62 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 4: I don't see. I just got there yesterday. I don't 63 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 4: know about the Patriots. But what in New England had 64 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 4: like a parade to leave or what? 65 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: What was that? 66 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 5: I'm sinned off? Thousands of people. See I had one 67 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 5: little lady with a Starbucks cup. I mean it was 68 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 5: nice of her, but less fanfair, I guess I would 69 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 5: put it that way. 70 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 1: They are still the IYES prohibitive is four and a 71 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: half points? Is that prohibitive? Favorite? Would that be? 72 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: I think it. 73 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 5: It's the only Super Bowl I can remember in looking back, 74 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 5: I mean for probably thirty year, maybe maybe forty May 75 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 5: thirty five years. The opening line came out Sunday night, 76 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 5: right after the Patriots beat the moroncos Seahawks beat the 77 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 5: Rams four and a half forty five and a half, 78 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 5: normally by the by midday or early and sometime in 79 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 5: the morning a Monday. 80 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: The line has. 81 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 5: Reflected the early trends, the early money and has moved 82 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 5: a little bit. That line has not moved one inch 83 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 5: since it opened late Sunday night. 84 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: I've never seen that in a Super Bowl. 85 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 4: I'm just excited to see a a good game. And also, 86 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 4: let's not forget happy birthday. 87 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 5: Dave loveth birthday. Thank you guys for up here. Appreciate that. 88 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you very much. I got a little 89 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 5: bit of like I just told, I told your boss, 90 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 5: Dave Tepper, Well, I guess he's my boss too. I said, Man, 91 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 5: I've had about four days of like if you'all ever 92 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 5: had verdigo, yes. 93 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 3: My wife has. I've never had it. 94 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 2: It's miserable. 95 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I haven't had it to the point 96 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 5: like because I've had it maybe four or five times 97 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 5: in my life where you absolutely are shut down, you 98 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 5: have to go to bed. I had it one time 99 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 5: driving down the highway at seventy miles an hour where 100 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 5: all of a sudden, my eyes, everything in my vision 101 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 5: started going like up and down. I'm trying to get 102 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 5: the car moved over. I'm sick. Within like five seconds, 103 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 5: I'm opening the door, puking out the door. I'm trying 104 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 5: to get the car to the side of the highway. 105 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 5: So I've had it that that it's not nearly that bad. 106 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 5: But it's like, it's like you just don't feel good. 107 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 5: You're like walking on a ship and all of a 108 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 5: sudden you're walking on the hall and then you bang 109 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,799 Speaker 5: into the wall like some drunk you know, isn't. 110 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 4: It just like your equilibrium? Yes, it's a pretty much yes. 111 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. So anyway, I wrote it to see both of 112 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 3: you guys. 113 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: To see you too. 114 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: See I did something stupid as a teenager, which again 115 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: is like an autobiography, but I mean. 116 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: You did something stupid last week, So I don't know. 117 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: I decided to ride the same roller coaster twenty seven times. 118 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 3: Huh? 119 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: Really? 120 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 3: Really? 121 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: We went to Circus Circus in Las Vegas and my 122 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: parents were off gambling. 123 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: I'm assuming I don't know. They just basically said. 124 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 3: Trying to pay for your tuition to see a shoe. 125 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: Here's some money, go have away fun. Yeah, go away, 126 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: you know, go away anyway. 127 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 3: And enjoyed them. So I'm assuming what your parents said 128 00:05:58,600 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 3: I go ahead. 129 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, but but they said go to the carnival. 130 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 2: Go to the circus. 131 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: Circus has all the rides and the roller coasters and 132 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: all this stuff inside. 133 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: So it just happened. It was it was like a morning. 134 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: It's like I don't know, it's like a Saturday morning 135 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: or something. 136 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 3: There's nobody there. 137 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: And so my brother and I were like basically have 138 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: a whole theme park to ourselves. And we rode the 139 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: same roller coaster twenty seven times in a row, and 140 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: it like shifted my equilibrium. 141 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: Now I have motion sickness. 142 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 3: I can't. 143 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: I can barely ride one roller coaster. 144 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: That right there message at Wow Rest Life. 145 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I barely well, you know the teenage version to 146 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: be at the time, I would say no, and then 147 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: I'd say no, especially now because I'd like to be 148 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: able to ride roller coaster my kids. 149 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: But then now I have to take ramm of me. 150 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 6: You know. 151 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 5: The funny funny thing about it is I I can. 152 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 5: I can ride a roller coaster, no problem. Like when 153 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 5: I took my daughter to Helitch's when she was like, 154 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 5: I don't know five like the Merry Go Round which 155 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 5: goes I don't know, like point seven miles an hour, 156 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 5: Miserable and Merry go around. One time around, I had 157 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 5: to get off and go sit down. I'm a speed demon. Also, 158 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 5: I'm still thirty four, but I'm all My kids like, 159 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 5: they love all the roller coasters. My ten year old 160 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:15,679 Speaker 5: is five. 161 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 4: Foot three, so you know, he's huge, and so he 162 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 4: just took go on all the you know, all the 163 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 4: big roller coasters and stuff. My wife will always like 164 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 4: back out, but I'm always been if I can fit. 165 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 4: There's a couple of rides in like Disney. I can't 166 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 4: fit in, but I love it. Can you spin yeah? 167 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 4: Can you do the spinny thing too? Can you ride it? 168 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 4: Like a boat? 169 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? 170 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 4: I just have to stay off my phone. So if 171 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 4: I'm on a boat, I can't just be looking at 172 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 4: my phone. I have to look at the water. Can 173 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 4: you look in when you're in the backseat of a car. 174 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 4: Can while the car's moving? Can you look at your phone? 175 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? 176 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 4: My wife can't. Like, my wife can't do any of this, bro, 177 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 4: I can't do any of that. To off sit there, 178 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 4: I can watch videos. I could sit there and texts and. 179 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: No way, well anyway, getting motions singers. 180 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 5: There's all our maladies for those who wanted to know 181 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 5: what the hell the hell were your feeling today? 182 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: Well, happy birthday, my friend, appreciate it's definitely good to 183 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: see you. The news coming out just a little bit ago, 184 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: a little about an hour and a half ago, Davis 185 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: Webb our new offensive coordinator here in Denver. I don't 186 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: think that surprises many people at this point, based on 187 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: the way things were trending. 188 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: But the big question now, is he gonna call plays? 189 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 6: Dave? 190 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 3: No, No, I don't think so. 191 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 4: No, Okay, Like, calling plays is such a prideful, a 192 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 4: prideful piece, and usually once you give it up, you 193 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 4: don't get it back. 194 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 5: Is anybody out there saying he's gonna call plays? 195 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: Nobody's out there saying he's going to And we're gonna 196 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: have be in on in about fifteen minutes because it 197 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: was his report from last week with Joe Brady. Remember 198 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: when he said Monday night that Sean had reached out 199 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: to Joe Brady about coming to Denver and calling plays, 200 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: and so that everybody's like, well, Seann's about to give 201 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: up play calling, and so that's carried forward now into 202 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: every discussion about who they're going to hig or I. 203 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 5: I how would I phrase this, I have some questions 204 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 5: about that story. And I think Ian's really good at 205 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 5: what he does and we're happy to have him on 206 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 5: every week. 207 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 3: But I'll just leave it at that. 208 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: I mean it lines up. 209 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: I think it's only like three times in his entire 210 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: career that he's given up play calling duties. One was 211 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: for when he was suspended. 212 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 3: The other had to. 213 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 5: Yea was the team for a year like me, you 214 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 5: know if yeah. 215 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: Well, I'm just I'm telling you that one when he 216 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 2: heard it hurt his. 217 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 3: Leg if I like it, yeah, okay, go ahead. 218 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: And then the last one was I think it was 219 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:51,239 Speaker 2: with the Giants. It was the Cowboys. I can't remember Cowboys. 220 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 4: But Dave, what would it take for you to give 221 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 4: up play calling duties? Just like under the same thought process, like, 222 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 4: what would it like, what would it really take for 223 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 4: you to be like, all right, it's time for me 224 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 4: to We need some new eyes up here, we need 225 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 4: some maybe new thought process. 226 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 3: No, I think that's that's a fair question. 227 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 5: I think, you know, I think the process, if it's 228 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 5: a collaborative process, then you have your guys sharing ideas 229 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 5: during the course of the week. I think that's probably 230 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 5: the case. 231 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 3: For Sean. 232 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 5: But I think to answer your question, I think when 233 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 5: it gets to the point that you really feel like 234 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 5: maybe you've lost a maybe a feel for the game 235 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 5: in terms of the flow of the game, or or 236 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 5: you've got a guy that you absolutely trust that you think, 237 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 5: you know what, maybe this guy on this team would. 238 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 3: Be a better fit to do that. 239 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 5: And that's that's where I push back on the idea 240 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 5: that Davis is going to be the play caller because 241 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 5: and again this is conjecture my part. 242 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: I could be dead wrong. 243 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 5: I've been wrong plenty of times, but I still think 244 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 5: Sean views himself as the best option to call plays 245 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 5: for this team with this current personnel. 246 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 4: See, I can understand the thinking of maybe making a 247 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 4: switch because this year was the best year. You had 248 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 4: to make it to the super Bowl. You had no 249 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 4: Mahomes and no Lamar Jackson. Josh Allen you took him out, 250 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 4: So this was the year. And it comes down to 251 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 4: a couple of play calls where you know you're kind 252 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 4: of questioning it. It's not even necessarily the going forward 253 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 4: on fourth down. It's the play call, a repeat kind 254 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 4: of play call. I agree, you know what I mean. 255 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 4: So it's like now it's like, well, should we go 256 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 4: in a different direction just because we had a big shot, 257 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 4: and I kind. 258 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 3: Of blew it. 259 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 5: I think there are times that really smart people, guys 260 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 5: that have great feels in this case, for the game 261 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 5: of football, can almost become paralyzed as they analyze what 262 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 5: their opponent will be thinking if I do this, this, 263 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 5: this and that. And what I have found in the 264 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 5: NFL and even other places is sometimes you're giving way 265 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 5: too much credit to your opponent because you're assuming your 266 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 5: opponent looks at the game and thinks of the game 267 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 5: as you do. 268 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 3: And there are times where it's like, Bro. 269 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 5: It's fourth down to one, I'm gonna run six to 270 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 5: one up front, I'm pinching to make sure every gap 271 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 5: is taken. 272 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 3: You know what, I'll change up. 273 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 5: I won't play man normally, I'm in man. Will play 274 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 5: two deep zone, which the Patriots did, you know. I 275 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 5: think there's times that really smart, creative people sort of 276 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 5: out think themselves. 277 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: That certainly felt like one because he called time out 278 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: to change the play from a run and I had 279 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: gone for it all year. So that's the thing for me, 280 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: is like he had gone for it all year, and 281 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: fourth down and plus territory. 282 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 5: But he'd gone forward a lot of times with bo 283 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 5: on the quarterback sneak that's exactly right, right, And there's 284 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 5: a real art to the way they run it in 285 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 5: terms of the cadence, the deliberation of the cadence, and 286 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:34,239 Speaker 5: the slight, really slight advantage it creates with that offensive 287 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 5: line in their get off. And so maybe he didn't 288 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 5: feel comfortable with the backup quarterback in that situation. 289 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 4: Well, you just got to think no one's going to 290 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 4: argue about a run play if there's a run play 291 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 4: in that situation. If you don't get it, you don't 292 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 4: get it. But and the play you did run, there's 293 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 4: obviously going to be a lot of questions because you 294 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 4: didn't get it. 295 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 5: And I also think it speaks to the confidence or 296 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 5: lack thereof that he had in the running game. 297 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 4: Exactly, and that is we were talking about leading up 298 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 4: to this game that the O line was going to 299 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 4: have to be big in this and our path right 300 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 4: there doesn't necessarily tell them you believe in your guys 301 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 4: against that Patriot front. 302 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: So for Davi's web, I guess the mindset here why 303 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: he chose because he had a lot of offers. But 304 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: he had a lot of interviews, right, He had had 305 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: a lot of interest around the league, and certainly he 306 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: could have pressed a little bit. 307 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 2: He withdrew his name at the. 308 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: End of last week for the Raiders head coaching job. 309 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: Maybe that's because he thought Clint Kubiak was going to 310 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: get it in, which he did. Obviously he's going to 311 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: be the he's expected to be the next coach. They 312 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: can't hire him toll after the Super Bowl. But like 313 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: your mindset if you're Davis Webb, on you when you 314 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: do this, because you think, well, it's a promotion. I 315 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: get to continue to work with bow Nicks, who I've 316 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: obviously been developing all along, likes the system, likes everything 317 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: about it. Why would Davis web choose the Broncos in 318 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: this case? 319 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 5: I think because of what those things you just you 320 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 5: just said. I think he's got a real comfort level 321 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 5: working with bow likes the quarterback room. 322 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 2: Even if he doesn't get to play call plays. 323 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think. 324 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 5: I mean, Andy Reid's coordinators were able to secure head 325 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 5: coaching opportunities and none of them were play callers. 326 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 3: The point right, So, and. 327 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 5: I'm gonna say, Davis Webb will never be a play caller. 328 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 3: I mean, who knows. I just I don't think it's 329 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 3: going to happen this year. 330 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 5: And frankly, if I'm Davis Webb, that's okay, that's okay 331 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 5: with me, because you know, last year the Broncos finished 332 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 5: fourteen and three, fifteen and three, they finished fifteen and four, 333 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 5: right look at their schedule this upcoming year, and I'm 334 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 5: not saying that they're not going to be a playoff team, 335 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 5: because I think I think they will be, but it's 336 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 5: going to be it's going to be a different schedule, 337 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 5: at least on paper. The opponents are much tougher. You 338 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 5: play Seattle, play the Rams, play the Niners. You know, 339 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 5: they just that's just how it goes. So who thinks 340 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 5: next year? Right now? If you had to bet that 341 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 5: the Broncos will be fourteen and three and win the 342 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 5: AFC West and the number one seed, would you say 343 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 5: that's likely? Would you say that's it's not impossible? Would 344 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 5: you say it's not likely? I mean, how would you 345 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 5: What category would you put next year into in terms 346 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 5: of what they will finish. 347 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 4: I think you have to assume that they're going to 348 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 4: take a step back just because of It was a 349 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 4: lot of close games this year that could have went 350 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 4: one way or the other, and the Broncos definitely capitalized 351 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 4: on a lot of those close games. You got to 352 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 4: think that they won fourteen games, I think what was it, 353 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 4: twelve of them were close games. So that's just the 354 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 4: luck of the draw right there. And now since you 355 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 4: were the number one team in the AFC West, your like, 356 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 4: your schedule is going to be harder, Like they said, 357 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 4: You're going to end up playing a lot of different 358 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 4: number one teams in the division, and I just start 359 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 4: to make a lot of things harder, a lot of 360 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 4: well coached teams, and like, I'm not saying the Broncos 361 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 4: don't have it, you know, not gonna win ten games, 362 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 4: but to replicate what they did this year. And that's 363 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 4: what I guess things the most is because they did 364 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 4: have a special year this year, and everybody knew like 365 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 4: it was a lot of close games. It was those 366 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 4: games that really built you for the playoffs, and it 367 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 4: felt like it really was going to put them on 368 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 4: a run, and they just fell flat. 369 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 3: I think what Shelby said is true. 370 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 5: I think you have to give the Broncos credit for 371 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 5: finding ways to win games, because that's that's really hard 372 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 5: to do. What they accomplished this year. I'm just telling you, 373 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 5: in this league is really hard to do. For the 374 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 5: people that said, oh, they've you know, they've been lucky, 375 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 5: and I didn't. I didn't pay any attention to those 376 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 5: guys because I know how hard it is to win 377 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 5: in the league. If you find a way to win, 378 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 5: then that's a credit to you. Agreed, So but I 379 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 5: agree that next year, I mean, can you duplicate that 380 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 5: kind of success now? Now you know, through the draft 381 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 5: and through free agency, I would expect them to be better. 382 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 5: I think that's one of the reasons Sean made some 383 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 5: changes on the coaching staff because he knows in order, 384 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 5: I mean, coaches pay the price for how their rooms play. 385 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 3: They just do. 386 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 5: And I think Sean knows. We talked about the ball 387 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 5: being on the ground too much. Ball's on the ground 388 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 5: too much, you know, I mean, so somebody has to 389 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 5: pay for that. They couldn't run. 390 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 6: The ball. 391 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 5: Really the way that they have to be able to 392 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 5: run the ball the entire year, and especially when JK. 393 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 3: Dobbins went out. 394 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 5: So you look at the running backed room and say, 395 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 5: are we satisfied with what we have in this room, 396 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 5: I would say no, no, disrespecting anybody there, but the 397 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 5: answer for me is no. And I think Joe Lombardi 398 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 5: paid partially for the offense and the running game in particular. 399 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 2: No, I think that's exactly right. 400 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: I mean to your point about winning close games, we 401 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: know that typically doesn't follow year to year from almost. 402 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 4: Well the Chiefs though, Yeah, that's the difference though, Like 403 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 4: we always say this about the Chiefs year in and 404 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 4: year out. Until this year, the whole thought was, you know, 405 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 4: if it's a close game, somehow the Chiefs want to 406 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 4: pull it out because they had showed that, Yeah, year 407 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 4: in and year out, the Broncos had showed that. This year, 408 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 4: if it was a close game, they're going to figure 409 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 4: it out obviously until the last game whether you know 410 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 4: obviously whether. 411 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 3: It was a factor. But now it's like they have. 412 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 4: To go out and do that again in order for 413 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 4: them to get that rep as how the Chiefs to 414 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 4: because now people going to believe the Chiefs is going 415 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 4: to somehow bounce back because of Patrick Mahomes and so 416 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 4: bow Knicks needs to have that stature about him about 417 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 4: himself where it's like, all right, they have bo Knicks, 418 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 4: they're going to win every close game. If he has 419 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 4: the ball in the fourth quarter with the chance is 420 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 4: going to win it, he's going to. 421 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 3: Find a way. 422 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: Well, then that's kind of the point I was going 423 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: to make, is that you have that in your bag, right, 424 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: I mean, make it a golf reference. Otherwise you know 425 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: that you had that ability in your bag to be 426 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: able to win some of those close games. Now you 427 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: can't count on the bounce of the ball to both 428 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: your credit, So you're gonna have to have something else. 429 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to have another level to your team. 430 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: And I don't know if to your point, if changing 431 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: our offensive coordinators really changed that, but you are ostensibly 432 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: going to be a better team because you're gonna have 433 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: I think better running backs in the room or at 434 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: least more depth there. You won't be relying on guys 435 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: that were healthy scratches for most of the year to 436 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: play in an AFC championship game. 437 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 2: And you also think, well, we. 438 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: Don't know who those guys are. 439 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 2: Don't know who those guys are? 440 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 3: Well, are they proven? Are they? 441 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 4: Is this someone you're going to draft again and you 442 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:28,959 Speaker 4: have to wait for them to get up to speed 443 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 4: It's like our J. Harvey didn't start off strong, and 444 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 4: they certainly his workload definitely kind of came on as 445 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 4: the season went on. They had JK. Dobbins to rely on. 446 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 4: So obviously it's a situation where you might need a 447 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 4: veteran back. I don't know if you bring a JK. 448 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 4: Dobbins back because of health, like obviously he was balling 449 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 4: when he was here, but you need a veteran back 450 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 4: and then opportunity to allow the young guys to come 451 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 4: on slowly because the NFL's a lot with protections and 452 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 4: you have to know O line protections checks and I said, 453 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 4: it is way different than the college game. It's way 454 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 4: more you need to know than the college game. So 455 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 4: it'd be very interesting to see how they do it. 456 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 4: But it's not as easy as as it may seem 457 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 4: to put a guy back there that can fit because 458 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 4: you have to find somebody who's perfect for this offense. 459 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 3: He JK. 460 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 4: Domins was perfect, but he's also older, so it's hard 461 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 4: to find a young guy that can just come in 462 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 4: and play like that. As we saw from year end, 463 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 4: you know, from we had underestimated like guys who they 464 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 4: brought in that weren't that really couldn't figure it out 465 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 4: right away? You see how hard that is, and it's 466 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 4: very rare. 467 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 1: No doubt about it. No, I have an offer roll 468 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: here on a Monday. Ian Rapport joins us neck momentarily. 469 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: Ian Rapport joining us here on the Kiwa cob Spirit 470 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: Health Highline powered by Chevron. Chevron the human Energy Company, 471 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: committed to our local communities and safely delivering affordable, reliable, 472 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: ever cleaner energy. 473 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: Ian Good afternoon, sir, Thank you so much for the time. 474 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:01,239 Speaker 1: Man. 475 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,239 Speaker 3: How are you what's going on? 476 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 6: How you guys doing great. 477 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 5: To talk with you, and we were talking before you 478 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 5: came on. 479 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 3: The number. 480 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 5: I'm not sure your numbers, guy, but the number the 481 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 5: number for the Super bowls four and a half. It 482 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 5: opened at four and a half and is not moved 483 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 5: at all. It's the first Super Bowl that I can 484 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 5: remember in a long time that hasn't seemed any sort 485 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,719 Speaker 5: of fluctuation in the betting line. That is that significant 486 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 5: in your mind? And if so, what does it mean? 487 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 2: You know? 488 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 6: Honestly, like, I've done this for a long time and 489 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 6: I'm not certainly not a betting expert. I obviously don't 490 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 6: gamble myself and all of those things. But right, I 491 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 6: really struggled to find any correlation to reality between the 492 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 6: gambling line and what actually happens in the games. You know, 493 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 6: I would say generally what it reflects is public sentiment 494 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 6: and public confidence, right, And so it seems like public 495 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 6: sentiment and public confidence has not changed. I mean, I 496 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 6: think most people think the Seawks are a better team. 497 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 6: Patriots could for sure win. But I mean that's what 498 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 6: it feels like to me, the better, more complete team 499 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 6: bothtball coached. Ye, you know, maybe Patriots have excuse me, 500 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 6: I have a quarterback with a with a little higher 501 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 6: ceiling on the ball a little better, so its defense 502 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 6: is really good. It's like it's just a good solid matchup, 503 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 6: and I don't know what would sort of swing it 504 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 6: either way. 505 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 3: Honestly, Hey, Ian Shelby Harris. 506 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 4: Here, when it comes to Davis web we obviously we 507 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 4: heard about him taking head coaching interviews and even had 508 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 4: some interest and opportunities to go maybe call plays somewhere else. 509 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 4: I guess what what was there allure of staying in 510 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 4: a situation where you may not even be able to 511 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 4: call plays compared to go somewhere else where? You can 512 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 4: have a little bit more rain, you have a little 513 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 4: bit more freedom in what you do. 514 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't want to speak 515 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 6: for Davis web but whether or not he called calls plays, 516 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 6: we'll see on that, whether or he calls plays. There's 517 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 6: a lot to learn from Sean. I think if you're 518 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 6: Davis Webb thirty one years old or whatever he is, 519 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 6: you know, obviously, I mean seems to be tracking to 520 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 6: be a future head coach in the NFL. Colling plays 521 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 6: is great, it really is. But learning to be a 522 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,239 Speaker 6: head coach, learning how to set a culture, learning how 523 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 6: to impact a team and steer a team and deal 524 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 6: with adversity and all the things that are going to 525 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 6: being a head coach, you know, that's paramount. And you 526 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 6: know Sean Payton, I mean you look around the NFL. 527 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 6: You see all the people that's stealing people from his staff. 528 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 6: You see what it's been like in the past. I 529 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 6: mean he has had, you know, he he gets teams ready, 530 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 6: he gets coaches ready. He does an excellent job of 531 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 6: sort of figuring out how to succeed in the NFL 532 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 6: by any means necessary. I think there's a lot to 533 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 6: like with Davis Web for staying another year with Sean 534 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 6: Payton that we'll see how many more after this? But 535 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 6: I really like the decision for him to stay. 536 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think so too. A lot of 537 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 2: Broncos fans seem to like it as well. 538 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: You got a report on Monday night last week that 539 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: caught a little I surprise out here about Joe bur Brady. 540 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: And now you said Sean had reached out to Joe 541 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: right before he was named the head coach of the 542 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: Bills about coming to Denver and possibly calling plays. I'd 543 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: love to get a little more information from you on 544 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: that perspective, perspective because Sean Payton doesn't typically hand over 545 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: play calling duties, and all of a sudden, now our 546 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: minds have been open to the possibility maybe Sean's thinking 547 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: about turning this thing over to somebody. 548 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think if you're another one to 549 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 6: speak for Sean Payton, but I'll just say generally, you know, it's. 550 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 2: What you really want as a head. 551 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 6: Coach is to have someone you have enough confidence in 552 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 6: me you could say I trust you to call it 553 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 6: like I would right, Like I think if you're Sean McVay, 554 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 6: if you're Kevin O'Connell. If you're Sean Payton's something a 555 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 6: really good offensive mind, Kyle Shanahan, and Kyle will probably 556 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 6: always call plays, but like, you know, what you'd really 557 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 6: like is have so many other confidence. I mean, you 558 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 6: can say, like, go do this, like I can just 559 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 6: be the CEO of the team. And you know, the 560 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 6: other thing is if you're going to get a guy 561 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 6: like Joe Brady, who is, you know, the number one 562 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 6: coordinator option out there, probably would have been the highest 563 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 6: paid coordinator in the NFL from the Baltimore Ravens. But 564 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 6: you know, if you're that coveted, then maybe you've got 565 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 6: to do some different things to bring someone like that along, 566 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 6: you know. And so maybe if Sean Payton was like, 567 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 6: the only way to get a guy like Joe Brady 568 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 6: is to offer him play calling, you know, I think 569 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 6: those you know sort of things go into decision. But 570 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 6: it's interesting because you know, it's a really good season 571 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 6: for Denver. But for me, just that he was thinking 572 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 6: of that and willing to even consider giving up play 573 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 6: calling really should show you that he is willing to 574 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 6: do whatever it takes to get this team as high 575 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 6: as they can go. 576 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 5: And it looks like Klint Kobek is going to be 577 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 5: the guy in Las Vegas. Is there any way that 578 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 5: that does not happen in your mind? 579 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 3: I would be surprised. 580 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 6: And my understanding is all sides are committed to this happening. 581 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 6: You know, they don't have a deal yet, but you know, 582 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 6: and you're really not allowed to negotiate a deal. But 583 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 6: I don't know that it really matters. But because you know, 584 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 6: all you could say is like, hey, if we were 585 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 6: to offer you this job, we'd make you a head coach. 586 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 6: That makes you know, the eleventh highest paid head coach 587 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 6: or whatever it is. I should make up a number, 588 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 6: and you could say, yeah, that's probably something we consider. 589 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 6: It's like we're good, We're good, you know, and then 590 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 6: that's going to happen. So we're going to talk to 591 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 6: Clint tonight at opening that I mean saying Jose right now, 592 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 6: So we're gonna talk to him. We'll see what he says. 593 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 6: But I mean to me, it seems all systems go 594 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 6: for Las Vegas Raiders. They consider themselves done. I consider 595 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 6: themselves done as well. And you know the ARXS will 596 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 6: need a new OC as well. 597 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 3: Well. Ian. 598 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 4: We we both don't that tampring is a real thing 599 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 4: in the NFL. Well, we can say whatever, Oh, but 600 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 4: then but by I guess my thoughts are you know, 601 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 4: the advanced Joseph. I want to talk about Vance jose 602 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 4: so Van Joseph, one of the you know, the decoordinator 603 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 4: of one of the best defenses in the league. They 604 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 4: let the league in sacks what happened and his coaching 605 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 4: and his opportunities to look for a head coaching job. 606 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 4: It kind of seemed like as the Broncos kept winning, 607 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 4: his job, opportunities kept fading away. 608 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, I know he got a 609 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 6: real look from the Raiders, and if it wasn't Clinton, 610 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 6: it might have been him. Arizona was never was never real. 611 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 6: I know they didn't talk to him. You know, it's 612 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 6: frustrating because he's one of the best coordinators in the NFL. 613 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 6: He has done an unbelievable job in Denver. He's been 614 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 6: a head coach. But was you know in it for 615 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 6: as you guys know, very difficult circumstances with John Elway 616 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 6: as GM and no quarterback in minutes, it was a 617 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 6: challenge and I think he deserves another chance. I frustrated 618 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 6: as someone who knows him well and just as someone 619 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 6: who appreciates coaches. You know, I'm frustrated that he didn't 620 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,719 Speaker 6: get another chance. I think he will, I really do. 621 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 6: I hope next year. But you know why somebody wouldn't 622 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 6: hire him, I just I don't quite understand it, to 623 00:28:59,160 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 6: be honest. 624 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: The last one I have for you staying with the 625 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz. We've heard a lot of rumblings 626 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: of frustration that he didn't get the head coaching job 627 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: out there in Cleveland. 628 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 2: What's his future look like. 629 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 6: I think it's still to be determined. You know, there's 630 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 6: a lot of different ways this skill. Yeah, I mean 631 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 6: he was he was certainly frustrated. He left the building, 632 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 6: had some more conversations over the last twenty four hours 633 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 6: or so. It remains unsettled. You know, I expect to 634 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 6: thin get settled this week. But like if you have 635 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 6: an employee's not that happy, there's a couple of different 636 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 6: ways to do it. You can say, you know, go away, 637 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 6: we're not interested, Go be a defensive coordinator somewhere. Or 638 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 6: you can say, hey, you know it helps money. People 639 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 6: like money. Money helps He can make someone feel better 640 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 6: that way, So there's different ways to handle it. You know, 641 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 6: it's tough for me to ballpark. I just don't like 642 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 6: if if it's not defense. Cording to the Cleveland, Brown said, 643 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 6: where does he go? It's not gonna be the forty 644 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 6: nine ers. I'm not sure it's so sure it's going 645 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 6: to be ego things. Sounds like an expansion of probably 646 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 6: sticks to like where actually does he go? And I 647 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 6: think that that, you know, kind of falls into the 648 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 6: equation as well, because if one of those prime jobs 649 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 6: was open, then you know, he might have taken it 650 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 6: by now. 651 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 4: Uh yeah. My last question, uh I was in this 652 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 4: last coaching cycle, we didn't see a single African American 653 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 4: head coach get hired. And so my question is more 654 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 4: about the future of the Rooney rule, because it seems 655 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 4: like a lot of teams are just checking boxes any 656 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 4: you know, every opening there is. We keep hearing about 657 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 4: they can't make a hire until they, you know, actually 658 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 4: fulfilled the Rooney rules. So are there any talks in 659 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 4: the league to actually put some substance behind the Rooney 660 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 4: rule and actually make it legit or or is this kind. 661 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 3: Of where we are right now? 662 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 6: You know, I think the real question is what would 663 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 6: make it legit. Like, you know, you can't force anyone 664 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 6: to hire someone that they don't want to hire, you know, 665 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 6: I just you do the best you can. You get 666 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 6: him to consider all sorts of candidates. You make him 667 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 6: sow the process done. You get you know, interviews, multiple 668 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 6: interviews of people with color done. But in the end, like, 669 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 6: I don't know what else you can do. I mean, 670 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 6: you know there's there have been, you know, events to 671 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 6: help owners meet some of the young minority candidates, coaches, 672 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 6: john managers that don't that doesn't happen anymore. You know, 673 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 6: you have the ruining role. I mean it's like I 674 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 6: think the NFL has tried. I just don't know. Excuse me. 675 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 6: We're gonna hear from you know, Roger Goodell in about 676 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 6: twenty minutes for his yearly address during Super Bowl. But 677 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 6: I don't know what else you can do. I really 678 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 6: I wish, I wish I knew. I wish I had 679 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 6: some answers, but you know, unfortunately I don't. 680 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: Ian always great man, enjoy super Bowl week and we'll 681 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: check in with you next week. 682 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: Man, appreciate you all. 683 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 6: Right, look forward to it. Thanks guys, Thank you. 684 00:31:52,680 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 2: I have a board our NFL Network insider a little 685 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 2: bit of pay bump opportunity. 686 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: What was the difference, I mean the obvious difference quarterbacks 687 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: coach to offensive coordinator, but in Sean Payton's system, what 688 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: is what is the new responsibilities of Davis web as 689 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator. 690 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 5: Well, I mean he's he's got to work I think 691 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 5: more closely with Zach Streef, the offensive line coach, in 692 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 5: formulating the plan. Right when your quarterback coach you're worried. 693 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 5: It's not that you're not worried about the plan, but 694 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 5: you're worried about your room. You're worried about you know, 695 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 5: here's the plan, and fellas you know, we we've got 696 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 5: to implement this. 697 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 3: We've got to make this work. So I. 698 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 5: Don't I don't think Davis will call plays, But I 699 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 5: think I do think that Ian was right in this regard. 700 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 5: I think it's a good step for him. There's a 701 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 5: lot of knowledge that he can gain being in that 702 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 5: position with Sean. 703 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: I just think, oh, sir, and again, I know we've 704 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: talked about him a ton. If he continues to develop 705 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: Bo Knicks and Bo Nicks continues to elvy, he's gonna. 706 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 5: Get He's gonna get not all the credit, but he'll 707 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,719 Speaker 5: get his fair share of the credits if bow goes out, 708 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 5: if this offense next year, whether he let's say he's 709 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 5: not calling to play and this offense goes out and 710 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 5: supersedes what they did this year, they run the ball better, 711 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 5: they throw it better, maybe they score more points, whatever 712 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 5: they finish, let's say, let's just say twelve and five, 713 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 5: and whatever happens when playoffs happens, He's gonna get his 714 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 5: fair share of credit for the improvement of that offense. 715 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 4: I think when it comes to Davis Web, if the 716 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 4: Broncos really don't have a drastic drop off next year, 717 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 4: he'll once again being head coaching you know, searches and 718 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 4: especially if like Dave says, they actually get better and 719 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 4: the certain parts like you see bow knicks really you know, 720 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 4: take another jump in his development, then Davis Web will 721 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 4: you know, depending on how many games as they win, 722 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 4: I think there's still be a double digit win team. 723 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 4: Like he's going to be a hot ticket because he 724 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 4: was a hot ticket this year and he was just 725 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:08,959 Speaker 4: a QB coach. 726 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were talking about before the show, Dave that 727 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: teams right now are chasing the next big offensive name, 728 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: like they just they're dying for it. Did you realize 729 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: how many new offensive coordinators we're going to have this year? 730 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 1: This upcoming season, You're gonna take a guess how many 731 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 1: new ocs or OC changes we saw. 732 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 5: I would say seventeen over what wow, he'll be over. 733 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: Twenty one twenty one new ocs this year. And yet 734 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: now you have ten coaches, right, ten new head coaches, 735 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 1: So that's ten new ocs there. But then you had 736 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: eleven other teams. Now some of those are you know, 737 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 1: promotion from this team and then seeing whatever he had 738 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 1: one where the Bears deplan Doyle state OC. He just 739 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: went to be an offensive coordinator with the Baltimore Ravens. 740 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: But it's still a new position. It's still new for 741 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: the Ravens. It's going to be new for the Sars. 742 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 3: When Decland was here in Denver, you know you heard 743 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:07,479 Speaker 3: his name all the time. 744 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 2: YEP. 745 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 5: I heard about Declan Doyle before I knew who Declan 746 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 5: Doyle was. And it's not like I'm I'm fairly tied in. 747 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 5: I follow the NFL call NFL games. I'm thinking, who 748 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 5: is this Declan Doyle guy? And I'm hearing about him 749 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 5: from people outside of the Broncos organization. This guy is 750 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 5: going to be the next time, he's going to be 751 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 5: this guy. And I'm thinking, wow, okay, I need to 752 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 5: figure out who Declan Doyle is. And now he's an 753 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 5: offensive coordinator with the Ravens. 754 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 4: Well, from what Ian said, you know, obviously it it's 755 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 4: obviously who you know, and these guys are all plugged in. 756 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 4: They all know the right people, and it shows by 757 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 4: one how they're making their way up throughout the league. 758 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 4: Now it's still we haven't seen yet. Does it warrant 759 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 4: it when we will see once? You know, these guys 760 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 4: are all in these new positions and they do get 761 00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 4: a little bit more power. They do, they have to 762 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 4: call play and we'll see, we'll see what happens there. 763 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 4: But you know, it's interesting though, just how much you know, 764 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 4: we talk about it in life too. You know, it's 765 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 4: all about who you know, and and that's great, but 766 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 4: then to keep your job in this league, you have 767 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 4: to perform, to produce, and so that's why you know, 768 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 4: we talked about you said twenty plus. OC's well, if 769 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 4: it doesn't work out next year, we can see another 770 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 4: fifteen to twenty plus ocs, and so it's coaching, especially 771 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 4: now with the impatience of owners and pay and the 772 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 4: threat to jobs for gms and coaches like they are. 773 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:35,959 Speaker 3: They have no. 774 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 4: Problem being one and done. They have no problem being like, God, 775 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 4: I made my mistake going to a new guy like 776 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 4: and so we'll see this like you saw Dan Campbell, 777 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 4: You're like, you know what I mean. So you're going 778 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 4: to see more coaches like that. You're gonna see more organizations. 779 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 4: So quick the cut off these you know, these other 780 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 4: coaches to try to find the next great thing, because 781 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 4: that windows to show short. 782 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 5: With respect to Vance Joseph, I think they nance was 783 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 5: not comfortable with the quarterback situation of the Arizona Cardinals, 784 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 5: and therefore they never got to a point of really 785 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 5: taking a good hard look at that. 786 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is it was Vance. 787 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 5: I think I'm fairly certain that said, you know what, 788 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 5: I'm not going to be a candidate for the Cardinals job.