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We're gonna go to the bottom of 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: the hour here and then we'll straddle the forty five 11 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 2: and then we'll take it to the top. As we 12 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: get ready for our first segment of the one o'clock hour, 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: we have a name for it. 14 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: It's called five three four Time Now four. 15 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 4: Five questions, Well, actually, but five sounds like more than 16 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 4: four question number one. 17 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 5: Time Now for an in depth look at the state 18 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 5: of the state of hockey. 19 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: After shutting out the Ducks to nothing Saturday night, the 20 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: Wild finished off a weekend sweep last night against the 21 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: Vegas Golden Knights. Carolla Prestoff scored the game winning goal 22 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: in overtime as the Wild beat the Golden Knights three 23 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: two at Grand Casino Arena. Yakoff Trenyon and Jueliarson Neck 24 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: scored as well. The Wild won four of their last 25 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: five games, and their six one to one run since 26 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: the start of November is tied for first in the 27 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: National Hockey League. Common Are the wild back. 28 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 3: I think you doubted that Wild Club can give it 29 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 3: up on him? No, that was me? 30 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: No, who was I think it was Rosy. It's nice, you. 31 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 3: Know again, Kenneby, you can use this for the next time. 32 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: The two of his gerald set sales. An eighty two 33 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: game season is not a sprint. It's a marathon. Oh 34 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: I like that, And so now I will admit it 35 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: was getting a bit dicey. I mean you dropped too 36 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: many games you played. The longer you can use this 37 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: as well, The longer you play poorly, the lesser chances 38 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: are of pulling a Van Halen and getting it turned 39 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: around and making it push toward a playoffs. 40 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 5: Pop. 41 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: But that's nice. 42 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 5: You know. 43 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: It was a shaky start, sort of the opposite of 44 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: last year, right, Do I recollect it correctly that we 45 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: got off to a really sizzling start last year and 46 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: then we. 47 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: Through yeah, through like half through December or second best 48 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: record in the West. 49 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: I thought, then, I think that's when our favorite player 50 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: here in Minnesota, carill caps of suffered an injury. 51 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 3: I don't remember. 52 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: It was lower mid or upper body, but he was 53 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: out for an extended period of time. 54 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 3: And that's sort of coincided with our sh got hurt. 55 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: That's exactly right, and that sort of coincided with our 56 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 2: shaky play. But now you know it's yeah, so it's 57 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: it's it's much better. I have not I'm not paying 58 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 2: This calls attention to the National Hockey League standings as 59 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: I once did. 60 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 3: Where are we when? Nice? 61 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: Well, I know it's early, it's not like the playoffs 62 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 2: don't start today, but are we starting to climb the 63 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 2: ladder a little bit? 64 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: I would assume we are. 65 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: Well in terms of points. They are in ninth place. 66 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: They are tied with Chicago and Vegas. They're in seventh 67 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 1: and eighth. But we've played two more games, okay, or 68 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: ninth in terms of points percentage, because the while that 69 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: played more games than most, we would be in tenth 70 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: place behind you, tom Ammoth. So okay, still not great, 71 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: but from where they were, you know, they were like 72 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: in the twelfth, thirteenth range there for a while. At 73 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: least they're give themselves a chance get back in the mix. 74 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: But it's going to take a lot more. 75 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: Didn't didn't Goverer men's hockey team win a couple of 76 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: games too, That's what I thought. 77 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: I saw they lost the bad one. We're gonna get that. 78 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: That'll be in the next question. 79 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 3: Oh we did, Yeah, Okay, well let's go. 80 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: You're doing it the wild. 81 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all I have to say. But I say 82 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 3: it's sa marathon. It's not a sprint. 83 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 4: Okay, Question number two, it's time now for it's a 84 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 4: It's a full choice. 85 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 1: Which Gophers team had the most discouraging performance this weekend. 86 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: A The men's basketball team barely escaping with a win 87 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: over Wisconsin Green Bay at home after making just sixteen 88 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: of thirty three free throws in regulation. B the men's 89 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: hockey team losing the Long Island six to two Friday 90 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: night at the Mooch. Or see the football team's forty 91 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: two thirteen loss at Oregon Friday night. 92 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 3: I thought we beat Long Island. 93 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: We did Saturday? Oh, Saturday, I lost to him. 94 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,559 Speaker 3: Deuces right, luck charm. He went to the set Okay, 95 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 3: that's right. 96 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: We salvage a split. But I didn't know Long Island 97 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: had a hockey team. 98 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: I didn't either. They have a great tea, not team, 99 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: but a great tea. You ever had a Long Island 100 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: t I have not known. I think, if I'm not mistaken, 101 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: I did not drink my drinking day's partake. But I 102 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: think a Long Island iced tea is all alcohol. There's 103 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: nothing else in it, really, all alcohol. That's for your 104 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: hardcorese If I'm not mistaken. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, 105 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: I apologize, but it wouldn't be the first time I'm wrong, 106 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: and it's not that big of a deal if I am. 107 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: I saw the story I read. 108 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: I think it might have been fish wrap Factory West Side, 109 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: where Nico Medvett actually laughed about all the mystery throws. 110 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: He's laughing, he's smiling, and was Doug growing it, And yeah, 111 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 2: it's against a higher quality than in Wisconsin Green There 112 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: was a time Wisconsin Green Bay. I remember it was 113 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: ten twelve years ago. I don't remember their coach's name now. 114 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: It was Dick the hell. It might have been Dick 115 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 3: but guess or Dick Weber. He got Wisconsin Green Bay 116 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 3: to the NCAA Tournament a couple of times. I'm not mistaken. 117 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: I think those days are are are long gone. 118 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 3: Bennett. 119 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 2: That's Dick Bennett. That's exactly who it was. So he's 120 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 2: still there. He must be gone by now, because you 121 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: know what, once they have some success. 122 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: He han't coach since two thousand and six. He's eighty 123 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: two years old. 124 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's he's he's hung them up. He's hung 125 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: up the truck. The truck. Taylor's generally want a coach. 126 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 2: Coaches coach in Wisconsin. 127 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 5: For a while. 128 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 129 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 3: See, well that's what happens. 130 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: You coach up in Wisconsin, Green May and then they 131 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: come calling, right, so. 132 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: Went to Wisconsin. Anyway, there was a time that was 133 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 3: a good club. You need to win that game. 134 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's I don't know, it's I know anytime 135 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: there's a coaching change and you bring in new recruits, 136 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: and you bring in transfers, and you portal this, you 137 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: porter that, nill this, nil that. 138 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 3: For as much as we can, we don't do a 139 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: lot of nil. 140 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: I guess you kind of have high hopes, right, And 141 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: we won the first two Cupcake games and then we 142 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: somebody throttled us, remember who it was pretty badly Game 143 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: three and then to barely escape here. 144 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 3: So growing pains just the golfer game that. 145 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: I mean, not even competitive in three games against quality 146 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: Big ten opposite number one teaven in college football Ohio State, right, 147 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: and I get that, but you know it's still to 148 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: be completely outclassed. And that's my guess is is the 149 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: coaching named Jason Day. No, that's the golfer the Day 150 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: character for as my guess is he called off the 151 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: dogs in the Gopher game, right, I mean, once you 152 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: get up a while, you start running the ball. My 153 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: guess is of Hoio stated wanted to They could have 154 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: doubled up on that score. They could have scored eighty 155 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: two points. I think they scored forty something. They could 156 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: have scored eighty if they wanted. I'm sure the Iowa 157 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: game was. I watched it. I said it that, I'll 158 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,119 Speaker 2: say it again. The only silver lining in that gray 159 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: cloud was I was able to get the yardwork done. 160 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: Because I planned to watch the entire game to thirty 161 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: start taken and it's a darkness I was I was 162 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: going to get behind on my fall cleanup. I was 163 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: able to get most a lot of it done. That 164 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: was just that stat will never leave my mind. First 165 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: four possessions the Golpher had. The Gophers had one yard 166 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: of offense, one yard in four possessions. At the same 167 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: moment in the game, I had thirty one points. I mean, 168 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: it's like Wow. And then against or again again, I 169 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: think we didn't get a tuddy? Didn't we Did we 170 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: get a tuddy? I think we got two of them? 171 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 3: Did we get two tuddies? 172 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: Well, we had thirteen points, maybe it was tuddy and. 173 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 3: I think it was two. I think it was two figgies. 174 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: But we got a tuddy. 175 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: It was another one of those games that by halftime I. 176 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: Stopped watching exactly. 177 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: And it's again, I know the coach, there's there are 178 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 2: a lot of flex supporters out there, and I'm not 179 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 2: a non supporter or a supporter. He's I verbally slapped 180 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: him on the back every year at the State Fair. 181 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: He's there with Pa. I slapp him on the back. 182 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 2: I tell him some kind of a you know, I 183 00:08:55,400 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: say some kind of I try to say something relatively huge. 184 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: He just has a blank stare on his face, glazed 185 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 2: overlook because he's wondering who is this person and then 186 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 2: I just move on with my life. And I you know, 187 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 2: he's a rolled the boat guy and that's all for 188 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: a good cause, and you know his best intentions are there, 189 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: but there's just this is what I tried to tell 190 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: people all along. There's no coach coming in here and going. 191 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: There's Paul bear Bryant's not. 192 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 3: Coming in on a you know, it's just not And 193 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 3: it's like. 194 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: We talked about it last week when I sent that 195 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: an innocuous text after we beat Michigan State and we 196 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: have to do it in overtime, and I said, I 197 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: don't think we need to give them an extension. They're 198 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: all these Gopher fans just ripping me. Yeah, yeah, get 199 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: rid of Fleck. You'll see where this program goes. No 200 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: one said get rid of him. I said, we just 201 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: don't need to give him an extension. He's already gotten 202 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: like a seven year deal left, doesn't even like seven 203 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 2: years left on his contract. Just let it play out, 204 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: and if he wants to go, let him go, because 205 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: there's other coaches that can do just what he's doing 206 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 2: in here. And if you I know there are people 207 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: that think that's wrong, your your your nuts. But Tracy 208 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: Clays and Jerry Kill had. 209 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 3: The team going in the right direction. Glen Mason had 210 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 3: it going in the right direction. 211 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, yeah, the who are you going to 212 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: find that's better? Remember we hear that with was that 213 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: with Glen Mason? We used to hear that. 214 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'd hear it a lot. Yeah, that's exactly right, 215 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 3: That's exactly. 216 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: You can find replacement level. 217 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: You can't look at Indiana, for instance, just and just 218 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 2: google them if you don't know who I'm talking about. 219 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: But yeah, that's you know, and I know the coach 220 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: after the Ohio State game and the Iowa game, he 221 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: said in his in his postgame comments, he said, I 222 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 2: told the kids, we're a good football program, and we're 223 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: a good football team. And I guess that all depends 224 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: upon your definition of good and it depends upon. 225 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: Sir. 226 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 5: You know. 227 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess they're there. If you take away the 228 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: best teams. 229 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: In the Big ten, actually the Big eighteen, that would be. 230 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: Your Michigan's, your Ohio States, is your Iowa in your Oregon. 231 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: Those are the four best, and there's I don't know 232 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: in Indiana. 233 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: Those five right there. 234 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: That leaves you with thirteen teams of that thirteen where 235 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: the Gophers are they in that? And let's say there's 236 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: one more in there, So there's twelve teams left of 237 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 2: that twelve are we in the upper upper third, middle third, 238 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: bottom third? 239 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 3: Maybe upper third? I don't I don't know. 240 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: I I'd say it's probably middle third or maybe at 241 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: the top of the middle third, the beginning of the beginning, 242 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 2: to the middle of the middle of the beginning of 243 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 2: the end. And so I I but that's yeah, that 244 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: was just a And I watched it. It was a 245 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 2: and I gave up on it to it like you did. 246 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: But I watched it was Friday night. I had nothing 247 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: else to do, all repped up with the all dressed up, 248 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: with no place to go, and it was just a 249 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: bad beat down. 250 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 4: Unfortunate Question Number three, NFL no huddle. 251 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: The Rams beat the Seahawks twenty one nineteen common as 252 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: LA the best in the NFC. 253 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: As we speak. You know, when you take a look at. 254 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: Your pop of power rankings, defense wins championships. 255 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: I love the way Philadelphia is playing defense. The Rams had. 256 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: The Rams gave Sammy Donald all kinds of time for 257 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: the for the for the Sam Donald haters out there, 258 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 2: or maybe not even haters, but the people that were 259 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: that they looked at that performance against Detroit as you know, 260 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 2: that's such a glaring, a glaringly bad performance. We want 261 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: nothing to do with him and need to move on 262 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 2: to JJ. That was another performance yesterday. He had some 263 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 2: really bad throw is that being said? Much like McCarthy yesterday, 264 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: Seahawks had a chance to win that game late. We 265 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 2: had that on the Uh you know, we were watching 266 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 2: that game along with Kansas City versus Denver. 267 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 3: Somebody in spread swing actually took Kansas City. But yeah, 268 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 3: that's so. But but I I still like Sammy Darnald. 269 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: But yeah, that's the Rams are really I again, if 270 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 2: I'd say it's Rams in Philly right now, but week 271 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 2: to week that that does change. 272 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: Just mentioned it. Well, lot's at a game winning field 273 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: goal as time expired as the Broncos beat the Chiefs 274 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: twenty two to nineteen. Common are the Chiefs? Donzo well. 275 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: Whoever that was during spreads he said, some Chiefs are 276 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: going to flex their muscles now. They're that team that 277 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: they don't worry about the regular I mean, they worry 278 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: enough that they just want to get into the tournament, 279 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: even if it's as. 280 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 3: A wild card. I mean, they're. 281 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: Their history speaks for itself. Haven't they won the NFS 282 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 2: or the AFC West like ten years in a row 283 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: and they've been at the big game what. 284 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: For the last five, like the AFC Championship like seven 285 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: years in a row. 286 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's like it's it is hard to doubt them, 287 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: you know how I am I unless it's my team, 288 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: that's the dynasty. 289 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 3: I'm not much for dynasty. 290 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: So I don't mind Kansas City struggling to not being 291 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: what they were, but you still fear them because of Mahomes. 292 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: I'm doing the idolization and pedestalization that I don't like. 293 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: But I think there are CERTA players that rise to 294 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 2: that level. There aren't many of them, but they do, 295 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: and so I just keep expecting Kansas City. 296 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 3: But like Mahomes had a. 297 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: Bad interception in that game that was just see that 298 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: left to scratch in your head. You thought it was 299 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: Golf or Caleb Williams McCarthy. But I don't know if 300 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 2: they're done though, but it's starting to feel that way. 301 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 3: I mean, they they need. 302 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: To, as we like to say tennby, I think they 303 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: almost need to run the table because there's some pretty 304 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: good records in that AFC. 305 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: The Eagles defeated your Detroit Lyons sixteen to nine last 306 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: night on Sunday Night Football common what happened to your squad. 307 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 3: Got out? Coach out? Playing? The quarterback was not very good. 308 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 3: He had but he had no. 309 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 2: That offensive line, you know, GoF you and I have 310 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: talked about this, and most quarterbacks fit this description. If 311 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: you give them time to throw, they'll carve you up. 312 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: And golf can do that. Golf is, but he wasn't. 313 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: He had no time to throw them. 314 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 3: When he's he's just so it's like he's. 315 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 2: Standing on a rickety ladder trying to paint a house, 316 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 2: and it's when he's trying to run or stand in 317 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: the you know what I'm saying, When he gets under pressure, 318 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: you just know it's going. 319 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 3: To end badly. 320 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: He's not good at throwing on the run, and he 321 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: just the running game wasn't as good. Campbell, we talked 322 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: about this. Look at I like the Dan Gamble, Campbell, 323 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: Let's go for that, you know, go Ford on fourth down. 324 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: But in a game like last night, when the reason 325 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: they went forward on fourth down all for the first 326 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: few years is because their defense wasn't any good. 327 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 3: They were having to win. 328 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: Games thirty five thirty one, so you needed tuddies. 329 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 3: Last night, you needed field goals, and they eschewed a. 330 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: Couple of Did the win maybe scare them away from 331 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: kicking shield balls though? 332 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 3: Well? Yeah, but still when you're. 333 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: Philly had three field goals, they had three figures when 334 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 2: they say sixteen nine, they had three figures. Detroit had 335 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: one FIGI I think they missed an extra point because 336 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: dope be wide receivers were a celebration And why is 337 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: this a penalty? I thought you could do anything you 338 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: want in a celebrat. Did you see them where they got? 339 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: They got penalized fifteen yar. 340 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: I saw the touchdown. I didn't see a celebration. 341 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 3: He ran that. He jumped onto the goal post and 342 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 3: hugged it. They had a goal post and just fell back. 343 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: Is that considered like a prop Is that why? I guess? 344 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 3: But Douce told me he thought. 345 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: Some other diva wide receivers done it before and didn't 346 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 2: get a penalized on it. Well, then you know again, 347 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna this is I'm gonna do a 348 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: classic Vikings fan take, Lion's got a jobbed by the officials. 349 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 3: Did you see the. 350 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 2: Last Yes, that was a bad call, So you'll agree 351 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: with me there and Jews and I didn't complain the 352 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: whole We just looked. 353 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 3: At each other and said, that's just what happens sometimes, 354 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 3: because there have been other. 355 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: Calls that have gone in the lines favor, but that's 356 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 2: just not pass interference. And now, the reason it's hard 357 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 2: to complain is because the Lions offense had been so 358 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: anemic all game. I don't think they would have scored anyway, 359 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: but they would have got the ball back. The clock 360 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 2: had stopped. There was over a minute to go, and 361 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,239 Speaker 2: the lines is still think had one time out, so 362 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: there was still would have been an opportunity to. 363 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 3: Take the ball out any chance. Yeah, but with the 364 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 3: way they were playing, I don't think they would have 365 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 3: done anything anyway. But there you go. That's five, three, four, and. 366 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 4: That's it for today's edition of five questions. Well actually 367 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 4: three questions, but five sounds like more than four. 368 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 2: More vikings talks from text messages coming in on the 369 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 2: Minnesota Golden gober men's football team as well. Maybe get 370 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 2: back to some more hockey talk see if ten is 371 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: getting really excited about his wild club and more to 372 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: get to, we'll take a short break. 373 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 3: I'm not going more after this right here on. 374 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: The tonap program on the fan, it's the Black Friday tradition. 375 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: You don't want to miss. 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I'm common, he is Tanabe 384 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 2: and uh we are here until three and then we 385 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 2: will turn it over to Poise Polishing professional big ticket 386 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: and uh, jay g, I've tattered with this. I think 387 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily block people, but I think I'm about 388 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: to now. Well, I just hate when they make accusations 389 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 2: that aren't even true. 390 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think he's it's been a lot. 391 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: He texts all the time, but he's done because now 392 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 2: and I don't know how to bring I don't know 393 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: how to unblock people. 394 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 3: So you're you're. 395 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: Your own fault man, unless you probably don't even really 396 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 2: care if you're unblocked, but you text every day to 397 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: all the shows, but uh, your text are no longer. 398 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 3: Being received. It feels good too. 399 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: To have that kind of power to just say enough. 400 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 3: Enough, we don't need used to rip all the time 401 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 3: for blocking. 402 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, when when when I've told you when people 403 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 2: are either use follow language or they out and out lie, 404 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 2: they make up lies, And I don't want to when 405 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 2: you when if you're just chiding people, that's one thing, 406 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 2: But when when you're really out and out lies or 407 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 2: using followl language or making threats, then you're out. 408 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I don't play that game. 409 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: I do find it fascinating how behind a keyboard people 410 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: will say stuff that they would never say in person. 411 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely that is correct. 412 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: But like if I had someone in person say some 413 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: of that kind of stuff, then I just wouldn't hang 414 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: out and spend time with them. So that's the same 415 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: way I approached my social media. 416 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 3: That's exactly right, and I'm approaching it the same way now. 417 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: So the head coach spent much of his news conference 418 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 2: early on talking about it's that. 419 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 3: Head shoulders knees and toes, knees and toes. 420 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 2: The eyes and the feet lining up, and yeah, some 421 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 2: of the basics. Don't most quarterbacks by the time they 422 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: get to pro football have the basic mechanics down. I mean, 423 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 2: or is there a bigger learning curve that I'm even 424 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 2: aware of? You know what I'm saying, because it sounds 425 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: like there's still trying some of just the basic concepts 426 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 2: of quarterbacking. You know, his posture when you know there 427 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 2: was something about well, when he stands straight up, he's accurate. Well, 428 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 2: then why is he slouching his shoulders and not standing 429 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 2: straight up? And then how do you not keep your 430 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 2: feet aligned with your And he must do it occasionally 431 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 2: because he brought up the coach pointed out, and he 432 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 2: was he was. 433 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 3: Maybe they just. 434 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: Need to do like a hurry up offense the entire 435 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 2: game because he was. He was pretty sharp in that 436 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 2: last possession. Now again, the Bears, my guests are playing 437 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: a little prevent right. 438 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 3: They're trying not to give up the big throw. 439 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 2: But they they heat He took them down the field. 440 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 3: Had they got the game the go ahead, Toddy prevent it? 441 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 2: Oh, exactly, they got the go ahead, Toddy and then 442 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 2: of course we know about the punt return, the kickoff 443 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: return that basically signed, sealed and delivered it. 444 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: I thought we were too aggressive, and then I'm coming 445 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: to fruition. I thought it was too much time for Caleb. 446 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: Now I ended up being too much time for their 447 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: kick return, but they scored too quickly. Yeah, they Now 448 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: at that point, the way JJ had been playing, I 449 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: guess you can't ask, you can't be too picky. 450 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: You just got to get in the end zone, right, Yeah, 451 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 2: that's that's exactly right. So I just don't know, you know, 452 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: I just talked to one of our sales guys who 453 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 2: speaking of chiding chiding me last week. He goes, when 454 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 2: they beat when the when? When the when the Vikings 455 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 2: beat the line? He said, well, we finally got our 456 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 2: starting quarterback back. He was cocky, right, even though he 457 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 2: didn't play particularly well in that Lions game, really, but 458 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: he was okay, right, all right, he played all right. 459 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 2: So I just saw him now and he knew what 460 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: was coming, and go, it's a good thing he got 461 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 2: your starting quarterback back. 462 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 3: Huh. 463 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 2: And then he goes, well yeah, he goes, well it'll 464 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 2: get better, and I said, well, we don't know that 465 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: for sure. And he said, would you give up on 466 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 2: him right now? And I said, no, you can't give 467 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 2: up on it. He just I mean that would be 468 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: I mean, it is to the point of the season 469 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: where remember when all the fans were saying, we're not 470 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 2: going to the big game anyway, so we. 471 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 3: May as well see what we have. 472 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 2: Well, that's kind of where they're at now, because I 473 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: get the feeling they're not going to the big game 474 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: and lost my feelings off. I don't know how you feel, 475 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: and so you do have to see. 476 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: I mean, they have to six and won the rest 477 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: of the way. Minimum. Yeah, it seems unlike form what 478 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: I've seen the season. That seems very unlikely. And one 479 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 1: of the teams you needed to chase in your conference 480 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: was the Bears. You would have the tiebreaker on him, 481 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: and now that's another team that you're not gonna be 482 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: able to reach. So they're they're in massive trouble for 483 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: this for this season. 484 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 3: I think you're absolutely I think you're absolutely right. 485 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 2: There was the the story leading up to the game. 486 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 3: It was. 487 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: The piece in the fisher matfactory. West had been guestling 488 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 2: headline McCarthy. Jefferson at a crossroads as Vikings prepare for 489 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 2: the Bears, and we talked a bit about this story 490 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 2: because this was a this was kind of like. 491 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: A there was that. 492 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 2: That's that story about Jefferson and where he's been, where 493 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 2: he's going, where he's Remember when he had the quotes 494 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: earlier in the week when he did something about want 495 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: to get back to overly loving the game again other 496 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 2: than just loving it, trying to get back to that 497 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 2: thrilling days of the season he had when he had 498 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 2: the great catch against Buffalo. 499 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 3: We want matter of fact, he posted on his Insta, 500 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 3: I think. 501 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 2: That highlight saying that's what he wanted to get back to, 502 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 2: and I think it raised some eyebrows from some people, 503 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 2: you know, you know, you and I talked about it. 504 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 3: I thought it was a bit it was at least, 505 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 3: you know, it would raise eyebrows. 506 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 2: I'm not sure it was necessarily you know, full panic mode. 507 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 2: But when your when you're franchise player, talks about I 508 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 2: got a lot of things going on off, you know, 509 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 2: in my life, and huh, you also getting paid forty 510 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 2: million dollars a year to play football and that you 511 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 2: got to find a way to put your life stuff 512 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 2: on the back burner while the games are going on. 513 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 2: But there were some other quotes from some other principles 514 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: about the fine line between how long do you just 515 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 2: is everything focused on getting the quarterback to improve and 516 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: how much is trying to win football games. We'll take 517 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 2: a look at that. On the other side of the break, 518 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 2: it's Common Man Program here on the fan the while 519 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: that's throwing it back in style. 520 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: Catch them in their seventy eights as they take on 521 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: the Carolina Hurricanes this Wednesday. Go miss the vintage vibes 522 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: and Big Time Hockey. Score your tickets today at wild 523 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: dot com slash tickets. 524 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 3: A couple of thirteen fourteen past Common Man Program. I'm 525 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 3: common He's tenab. We were talking over the past few 526 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 3: weeks about, you know, there is that. 527 00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 2: Contingent to the fan base that said, this season is over, 528 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 2: we need to play McCarthy to see what we have 529 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 2: at quarterback. And then we talked about, well, that's easy 530 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: for a fan to say, but as an organization that's 531 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 2: built to win and built to win right now, and 532 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: make no mistake, they were coming off of fourteen and 533 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 2: three or thirteen and four season, whatever it was last year, 534 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: and when you refurbish the interior of the offensive line 535 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: and defensive line with veteran players and paying them a 536 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,239 Speaker 2: lot of money. You're trying to win right now, and 537 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 2: the Vikings felt they could do that with a basically. 538 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 3: A rookie quarterback. 539 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 2: Again, he had a year to watch and study, but 540 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: let's face it, he had never played before. So whether 541 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: you want to call him a rookie or not, an 542 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 2: inexperienced quarterback at best. But I think the the the 543 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 2: organization felt with a really good b flow defense and 544 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 2: a solid running game and a good defensive line to 545 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 2: provide protection. 546 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 3: You don't need to have. 547 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 2: There have been teams that can win games without having 548 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 2: a quarterback putting up Pro Bowl numbers. Can do that 549 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 2: as long as they don't make a lot of mistakes. 550 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 2: He continues to grow, play well, make some key throws. 551 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 3: When he needs to. 552 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 2: You can win that way, and that was I think 553 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: what the Viking's plan was. Hasn't worked that way obviously. 554 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 2: This is from Kramer's piece Akramer Guestling from Saturday. It 555 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 2: says the quarterbacks studiousness and command of concepts O'Connell has said, 556 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 2: means the Vikings don't worry about how much he can handle, 557 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 2: but his classroom time for exceeds his on field experience, 558 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 2: and as McCarthy leads an offense full of veterans who 559 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 2: returned from a fourteen win team, offensive coordinated with Wes 560 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: Phillips said this week, quote, it wouldn't be fair to 561 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 2: the other guys unquote if the Vikings simplify their game 562 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: plan to reflect the quarterback's youth, exactly what you and 563 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: I were talking about, where you can't just we've got 564 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 2: a game. 565 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 3: It's not just one kid's career here. There are fifty 566 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 3: other two guys, fifty two. 567 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: Other players that have signed contracts that are laying it 568 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: on the line. 569 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: Guys are in the training room. It's Badwag, it really is. 570 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 2: Phillip says, I don't think we ever go into a 571 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 2: game saying, hey, this is about JJ's development in this game. 572 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 2: We're trying to set up the best plan for the 573 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: guys we have JJ included. But it wouldn't be fair 574 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 2: to anyone else on our football team to hold back 575 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 2: on anything that we felt we needed to. 576 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 3: Go win a football game. 577 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 2: So now you're not just hearing it from me, and 578 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 2: I played both sides of the ball. Back in forth 579 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 2: fifth and sixth grade, fierce bass rusion rocket. You brought 580 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 2: the run stoping defensive lineman, precise rout rsure in a 581 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: bass catching tight end. But now you're hearing it from 582 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 2: a member of the coaching staff, a highly regarded member 583 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: the coaching staff, saying, this isn't just about developing one 584 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 2: player with the training wheels on, because he's on training 585 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 2: wheels right now. And not only is he on training wheels, 586 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 2: but he has somebody holding the handlebars too. Do you 587 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 2: remember teaching your kids how to ride about? Yeah, exactly, 588 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 2: I did it with Deuce. I remember both do some 589 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 2: baby brother, Peter, You're you're right alongside of him, and 590 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: you're holding that handlebar and finally you just let it 591 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 2: go and let them go on their own and then 592 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 2: they fall, and then they fall one second later, one 593 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,719 Speaker 2: second later. But and that's kind of what McCarthy's been 594 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 2: doing here for the most part. That always had his moments. 595 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 3: He's gotten down the block and back. 596 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 2: A couple of times in that first Bears game and 597 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 2: then again then the second Bears game in that very 598 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 2: final possession, and he's had his other moments as well. 599 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 3: But folks, it's just I and as a fan, I. 600 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 2: Know you you feel you have patience. 601 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 3: I've been through this before. I'm gonna be around next. 602 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 2: If you're if you're a fan of the Vikings, and 603 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 2: let's say you're thirty years old and you're planning to 604 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: stay in minn Sodia love football, well you're probably gonna 605 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 2: be a fan for the next thirty forty fifty years. 606 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 2: So for you one year to develop a quarterback doesn't 607 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 2: mean anything in your grand scheme of fandom. But I'm 608 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 2: justin Jefferson, or I'm Blake cash Man, Harrison Smith, I'm 609 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 2: Harrison's I mean you came back or any one last 610 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: year or any of these got right, any of these players. 611 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: You're thinking, well, no, we we love of the kid, 612 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: but is this pro football? 613 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 5: Man? 614 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 3: You We we got to move this along. 615 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 2: We can't worry every week if your eyes are aligned 616 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: with your feet. So I think that's probably a part 617 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: of this as as well. It's you know, when you're 618 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 2: talking sports, it's it's it's complicated. Yes, we'll take a break, 619 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: come back another hour to go other side of the break. 620 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: End of an era here at the fan happened this week, 621 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 2: and we'll dive into that next here in the comment 622 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 2: Protomonal Things