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Speaker 2: in our number two, fresh off a trip to Goodyear, Arizona,

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Speaker 2: Joe Daneman back here in Cincinnati, and we'll catch up

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Speaker 2: That happens at one o'clock again with talkbacks directly after that,

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Speaker 2: a big night ahead locally on the college basketball front,

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Speaker 2: Xavier was supposed to play at Providence tonight. Because of

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Speaker 2: the winter storm that they are getting in Providence, that

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Speaker 2: game has been moved to Wednesday. So tomorrow you get

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Speaker 2: Xavier at Providence. You also get NKU at Cleveland State Tonight.

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Speaker 2: Miami of Ohio twenty first team ranked in the country.

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Speaker 2: They go on the road to Eastern Michigan. Saint Louis

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Speaker 2: Texas Tech Red Raiders at seven o'clock tonight. So we'll

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Speaker 2: keep you updated with all things college basketball. It's if

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Speaker 2: it's worth it at all. And the only reason I

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Speaker 2: Dan Horde. Is that going into tonight's game Austin, according

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Speaker 2: to Joey Bracketts, according to Joe Lonardi, the Bearcats are

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Speaker 2: an opportunity for the Bearcats to build their resume for

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Speaker 2: the bubble. We'll talk more about that as we go

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Speaker 2: this afternoon. Major League Baseball, Chris Sale and the Atlanta

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Speaker 2: Braves have agreed to a twenty seven million dollar extension.

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Speaker 2: We have the buster only shortstop rankings that we can

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Speaker 2: It is thirty days from opening day. We'll discuss that

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Speaker 2: later on in today's show. And the Reds themselves have

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Speaker 2: a three h five first pitch this afternoon against the

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Speaker 2: Kansas City Royals. Also wanted to take a few more minutes.

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Speaker 2: We mentioned this in passing to Charlie Goldsmith last Friday,

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Speaker 2: does that make sense? Does it not make sense? The pros,

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Speaker 2: from a Cincinnati Reds point of view today And where

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Speaker 2: the Bengals, our good friend of the show, Joe Goodberry,

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Speaker 2: laid out a mock draft scenario that I have an

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Speaker 2: interesting question as it relates to that and a mock

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Speaker 2: draft from Mel Kuiper. Today, Austin has Caleb Downs going

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Speaker 2: Downs is at number ten. I think we need to

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Speaker 2: And Paul Dana Junior wrote a really nice piece on

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Speaker 2: Bengals operate in the offseason. Also, Austin passed me this

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Speaker 2: used a printer today Austin.

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Speaker 3: Austin printer on two different stories.

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Speaker 2: Yes, today Austin passed me this from the Cincinnati Business.

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Speaker 3: Courier, normally only on my iPad, that the.

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Speaker 2: Bengals and Visit Sinsey are making a push to host

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Speaker 3: Now. This was a story written by Steve Watkins Steve

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Speaker 3: At least it's coming back around because we're starting to

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Speaker 2: Timing to that, and also the economic impact that could

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Speaker 2: friend of the show, Lance throughout some draft comparisons throughout

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Speaker 2: We also know that the Detroit Lions were playing in

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Speaker 2: Munich this upcoming season. The Lions have been selected for

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Speaker 2: the Munich game, and the Atlanta Falcons plan to release

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not new news there about Kirk Cousins. It was

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Speaker 3: That's not a surprise. The Lions going to Munich, that's

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Speaker 2: What else do we have here? Tyreek Schuball has said

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't. I don't necessarily like the World

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Speaker 3: has been this whole time for Tarrek school Ball to

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Speaker 3: and and rejoin the Tigers. My question is, if you're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he and he's just paid. Like I said,

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Speaker 3: It's Yeah, it's not like you're going up against the

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Speaker 3: But I don't. I just it's I don't love the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my thing is very simple. If you're in, then

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Speaker 2: be all in, right, and if not, then respectfully decline.

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Speaker 2: He also said if the US advances to the finals

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Speaker 3: Well thanks, but no thanks. Yeah, I mean he just

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Speaker 3: I'm not a huge fan of this from Arrek' school.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing. If those are the reasons, if they're

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Speaker 3: This isn't a coach throwing a challenge flag. This is

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Speaker 3: penalty flags. So this would be yeah, yeah, this would

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Speaker 3: And in the article written by Kevin Seffert and Mike

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Speaker 3: He said, I would have found it very difficult to

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Speaker 2: I don't know, can you imagine?

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Speaker 3: And I think we've talked about this before. Man, this

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Speaker 3: I just I can't. I had never heard of Jung

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Speaker 2: Sure like that would be the thing, like three later

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Speaker 3: So I posted the clip from our show yesterday talking

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Speaker 3: Well, this is huge that I'm telling you. It could

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Speaker 3: I know, it felt like you never knew what you

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Speaker 2: We always changed it out now now. Joey Vado recently

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Speaker 2: They do they have an information to Baseball Savant, Yes, okay,

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Speaker 2: from twenty twenty to twenty twenty four at rank number

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Speaker 2: one as well. We kind of messed around with this before.

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Speaker 2: Is there any traction to moving the fences back at

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Speaker 2: Great American Ballpark?

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Speaker 3: Traction probably not.

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Speaker 2: Does it make sense?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think so. I don't know what the cost

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Speaker 3: of something like that would be. I don't know how

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Speaker 3: difficult it would be to pull off. But I don't

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Speaker 3: think we're asking you to take out half of the

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Speaker 3: moon deck. No, I mean you could keep the current

448
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Speaker 3: like where the corner where the bullpen is and from

449
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Speaker 3: there out to center field or they're to the smokestacks.

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Speaker 3: Can you take out one or two rows?

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Speaker 2: Doesn't it feel like there's a ton of home runs

452
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Speaker 2: that just get to the first or second row at

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Speaker 2: the upper ballpark that specifically yep.

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Speaker 3: So let's say you take out the two rows and

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Speaker 3: you have the fence there, then maybe it becomes a

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Speaker 3: little bit more pitcher friendly. Maybe there's more doubles off

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Speaker 3: the wall and fewer homers. It just becomes more neutral

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Speaker 3: than hit her friendly, not necessarily making it a picture

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Speaker 3: friendly ballpark, but again just more neutral.

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Speaker 2: It's always been interesting the way in which they've built

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Speaker 2: these last couple of years, because the Reds have built

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Speaker 2: the core of this team around pitching, yet have a

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Speaker 2: terrible ballpark to pitch in for pitchers. Like those two

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Speaker 2: things they just don't mesh. Red pitchers in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five gave up one hundred and ninety home runs at

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Speaker 2: the ballpark, one ninety five the year before, and the

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Speaker 2: year before that two hundred and twenty two left the ballpark,

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Speaker 2: So if you're building your foundation around pitching, wouldn't it

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Speaker 2: be smart to actually look into that and move the

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Speaker 2: ballpark back a little bit and move the fences back,

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Speaker 2: You would think now that would probably require some spending,

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Speaker 2: and spending Austin is actually a topic of the new

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Speaker 2: MLBPA interim executive director Bruce Meyer, who is storming on

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Speaker 2: the scenes. And from an article that you printed off.

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Speaker 2: The second article you've printed off today is Bruce Meyer

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Speaker 2: throwing a little bit of a jab at the Cincinnati Reds.

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Speaker 3: Sure seems like he is to me. Now. This is

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Speaker 3: an article written by Gordon witten Meyer of Cincinnati, and

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Speaker 3: this was written at twelve twenty five am this morning.

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Speaker 3: Soon Gordon burning the midnight hour, burning the midnight oil.

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Speaker 3: Now he's in Arizona, so I guess technically it was

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Speaker 3: yesterday for him. But you know what's going on anyways,

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Speaker 3: This is a quote from Bruce Meyer. We have access

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Speaker 3: to information, we're not at liberty to share with the media. Okay,

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Speaker 3: but this club made the playoffs last year. They beat

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Speaker 3: out the Mets, who obviously have a much bigger payroll.

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Speaker 3: They have the ability to compete now, and they have

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Speaker 3: the ability.

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Speaker 2: To do more, who do you think he's talking about.

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Speaker 3: The Cincinnati Reds.

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Speaker 2: Oh, okay, I mean is he wrong?

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Speaker 3: No, he's not. And to Gordon's credit, he starts off

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Speaker 3: by saying, for anyone in Cincinnati who thinks the small

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Speaker 3: market Reds need a salary cap to compete with the

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Speaker 3: bigger revenue clubs, the new boss of the players Union

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Speaker 3: has a swift and firm rebuttal. So he's talking about

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Speaker 3: the Reds quite obviously and says there's He also goes

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Speaker 3: on to say there's no team in baseball that doesn't

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Speaker 3: have the ability to compete. That's Bruce Meyer.

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Speaker 2: I mean he cites I believe the Milwaukee Brewers and

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Speaker 2: their payroll, like.

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Speaker 3: I don't their market. Yes, all market. I don't have

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Speaker 3: a problem with us at all. I don't either, and.

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Speaker 2: Everyone this this kind of word. This goes back to

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Speaker 2: me to the point of what Richard Patino said last week.

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Speaker 2: He's saying the quiet part out loud. Richard Patino talked

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Speaker 2: last week, in the midst of a tough season about

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Speaker 2: quite frankly, we need more money if we're going to

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Speaker 2: get this turned around. Maybe he's not in the position

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Speaker 2: to do that, but Richard Patino last week said the

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Speaker 2: quiet part that everyone knows out loud. I don't think

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Speaker 2: Bruce Meyer is surprising anyone with what he's saying, but

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Speaker 2: more often than not, the Major League Baseball Players Association

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Speaker 2: executive director is probably not going to go down that path.

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Speaker 2: Bruce Meyer's willing to do that. I don't mind it,

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Speaker 2: because it's the quiet part out loud, and it's not

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Speaker 2: taking anyone, you know, by by alone here. Everyone kind

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Speaker 2: of knows that's what it's been.

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Speaker 3: I think the issue is that there is a narrative

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Speaker 3: now around Major League Baseball and around the players, and

521
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 3: because the Dodgers keep spending and the Mets keep spending,

522
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Speaker 3: and there's this large market small market conversation always happening,

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Speaker 3: the narrative is that you have to have a salary

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Speaker 3: cap in order to even the playing field. That's a

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Speaker 3: narrative that's coming from Major League Baseball and the owners,

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Speaker 3: and it's not true. And obviously the NFL or the

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Speaker 3: MLBPA president they don't want a salary cap, nor will

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Speaker 3: they ever want a salary cap, and I don't know

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Speaker 3: that they're ever going to get one. But the point

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Speaker 3: he's trying to make here and he says it in

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Speaker 3: the article, is that some fans are of the view

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Speaker 3: that their owners aren't trying hard enough to win. That's

533
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Speaker 3: the real problem from our standpoint, teams that have the

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Speaker 3: ability to be more competitive and for whatever reason, don't

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Speaker 3: have the incentive to do it or don't have the

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Speaker 3: motivation to do it. Bruce Meyer says, we'll be making

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Speaker 3: proposals designed to try make the make sure the system,

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Speaker 3: including the revenue sharing system, has the right incentives for

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Speaker 3: clubs to win, and not provide any rewards for not competing.

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Speaker 3: My point here is I'm siding with the players because

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Speaker 3: I agree that the salary cap is not the biggest issue.

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Speaker 3: Would I like to see one, Yes, I would, But

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Speaker 3: I don't want another excuse for the owners not to

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Speaker 3: be competitive. There needs to be more stuff built in

545
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Speaker 3: to pressure incentivize winning and not incentivize losing. Not incentivize

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Speaker 3: all will fill the ballpark. Who cares if we win

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Speaker 3: a bunch of games or not. There are teams like

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Speaker 3: the Reds, and We've been saying this for a long

549
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Speaker 3: time that can do more and should do more, but

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Speaker 3: choose not to do more. The league and the players

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Speaker 3: Association have to come together with more incentives to discourage

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Speaker 3: not caring about the results and a salary cap. I

553
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Speaker 3: don't know that that's the biggest issue. It's a desire

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Speaker 3: to actually win and get benefits and profits from that

555
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 3: that we just don't see enough in Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm in the same vein here of can

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Speaker 2: the owners do more? Yes, then let's hold them to

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Speaker 2: a higher standard. Just let's let's let's call it what

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Speaker 2: it is. Let's hold this group to a higher standard

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Speaker 2: than what they're being held at. And and again, as

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Speaker 2: you said, incentivize winning. Since the inception of our number

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Speaker 2: three on, since the three sixty, we have constantly used

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Speaker 2: the phrase, and you've used this for a long time.

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Speaker 2: The aggressive pursuit of a championship. That's what this is about,

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Speaker 2: and that's what the players want. And if you're going

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Speaker 2: to openly bring players in without really going all in

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Speaker 2: on trying to win the when when this thing and

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Speaker 2: build a roster that can do that, then then what

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Speaker 2: are you doing At the core of it. It should

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Speaker 2: be about, and it always should be about, the aggressive

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Speaker 2: pursuit of a championship, and call it what it is is.

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Speaker 2: Every team in Major League baseball operating in that sense,

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Speaker 2: I don't think you're going to get a lot of

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Speaker 2: people that say yes. So if they can bring something

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Speaker 2: to the table here that does even the playing field,

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Speaker 2: or that does incentivize winning, or that does push some

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Speaker 2: of these owners who maybe have not pushed their chips

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Speaker 2: to the middle of the table to do so, then

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Speaker 2: I'm all for that.

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Speaker 3: And these negotiations are going to start after the season begins,

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Speaker 3: and it's going to be ugly. And I think we've

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Speaker 3: all kind of said there's no expectation for there to

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Speaker 3: be baseball next year. But I think there's going to

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Speaker 3: be a narrative presented to the fans that it is

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Speaker 3: the player's fault more than it's the owner's fault. That's

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Speaker 3: going to be pushed by base sirl that's going to

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Speaker 3: be pushed by the owners. And as Meyer says in

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Speaker 3: this article as well, there are features of the current

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Speaker 3: system that already provide in his words, enormous support for

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Speaker 3: small market teams. Revenue, the luxury tax proceeds, which are

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Speaker 3: hundreds of millions of dollars, half of that money goes

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Speaker 3: to small market teams, and other support from league revenues

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Speaker 3: that already is in place. This is why we've been

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Speaker 3: saying for so long that the Reds can do more

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Speaker 3: and the small market thing is nonsense. Now, I think

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Speaker 3: what they should do is do what other salary cap

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Speaker 3: leagues do and share all the TV revenue. Now, the

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Speaker 3: Dodgers aren't gonna do the Mets aren't gonna do that.

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Speaker 3: Other teams aren't gonna do that. That I think is

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Speaker 3: the starting point for making everybody happy. But I just

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Speaker 3: don't know that we're we're going to get there.

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Speaker 2: Assault today also that the Braves have launched their own

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Speaker 2: network to air one and forty games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you think about this, other teams have this,

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Speaker 3: the Mets, the Yankees, the Dodgers, the Giants. I think

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Speaker 3: the Texas Rangers did it with theirs as well. There

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Speaker 3: are several teams that have their own television network. The

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Speaker 3: Braves have some people in their ownership group that have already,

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Speaker 3: you know, built TV networks in the past, and so

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Speaker 3: they have a bit of a leg up on some

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Speaker 3: of those. But yeah, they they want to work with

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Speaker 3: the Hawks, they want to work with Atlanta United, they

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Speaker 3: want to work with some of the other professional teams

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Speaker 3: in and around the Atlanta area to kind of push

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Speaker 3: all the chips in one. We'll see how that goes.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, the Braves are launching their own TV network

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Speaker 3: called Brave's Vision, So they're gonna it's gonna be probably

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Speaker 3: almost identical to what the Reds have for this season,

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Speaker 3: and I think they're gonna build it up over the

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Speaker 3: course of time.

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Speaker 2: A break. More on the Reds, more on some of

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Speaker 2: the position groups in Major League Baseball, shortstop and third base.

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Speaker 2: We'll look into those on this the Home of the Bengals,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. It is Sincy three to sixty. It is

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Speaker 2: our number one thanks to Skyline Chili closing in on

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Speaker 2: some Cincinnati Reds conversations here and then we'll get to

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Speaker 2: Joe Daniman at the top of our number two when

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Speaker 2: we come back from a break here in just a

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Speaker 2: few moments, I want to talk about the pros and

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Speaker 2: cons to a possible six man rotation, but before we

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Speaker 2: get to that, not that it carries a lot of weight,

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Speaker 2: but these lists are fun to keep an eye on.

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Speaker 2: As the season I would say creeps closer. That's what

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Speaker 2: it feels like at this point, still thirty days away

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Speaker 2: from opening day. But buster Onie we mentioned this last week.

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Speaker 2: He's been going through each position group. Yesterday he did

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Speaker 2: third basement and while there is no red list, that

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Speaker 2: is the top third baseman in the top ten. Jose

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Speaker 2: Ramirez is number one, the new Chicago Cub Alex Bregman

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Speaker 2: checks in at number three, three Bo bashett is at

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Speaker 2: number seven. But the interesting thing here honorable mentions for

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Speaker 2: buster Oni is key Brian Hayes, because he is dominant

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Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball. Only points out

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Speaker 2: that he let all third basement and runs saved at

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Speaker 2: nineteen and out's above average at twenty two. And u

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Speaker 2: Henneyosuarez gets an honorable mention at third base from buster

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Speaker 2: Oni as well.

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Speaker 3: If we could just combine their defense and their.

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Speaker 2: Pals, can you imagine that have the greatest third basking

657
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Speaker 2: They would be number one easily. They would have the

658
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Speaker 2: top third basement in all of baseball.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Charlie, who's going to join us on Friday,

660
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 3: said he's working on I heard him on last night

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Speaker 3: with Lance say he's working on a key Brian Hayes

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Speaker 3: story about why the Reds really did trade for him

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Speaker 3: and what their plan is to fix his offense. Okay,

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Speaker 3: looking forward to hearing about that, because you know, no

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Speaker 3: pun intended. That could be key, oh to their rights

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Speaker 3: if they can get key Brian Hayes to just be

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Speaker 3: I don't know, not horrible at the plate. It's a

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Speaker 3: good way to put it, like he's not horrible. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Like as long as you're not batting one seventeen, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: can you bat two twenty five?

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Speaker 2: Take it?

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Speaker 3: Because they did, Like there's a reason they traded for him, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and then made the moves that they made, And it

674
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Speaker 3: can't just be because he's good at defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe they maybe they can unlock something. I'd be

676
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: excited about that. Maybe they unlocked the back injury. Uh buster.

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00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 2: Oni today listed his top ten shortstops, Bobby Witt Junior

678
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Speaker 2: number one, geraldo Perdomo number two, Gunner Henderson three, Lindor Seeger,

679
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Speaker 2: Trey Turner, Jeremy Pania, Mookie Betts comes in at number

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Speaker 2: eight and May He's got Ellie de la Cruz at

681
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Speaker 2: number nine. Buster one says this last year, Ellie stole

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Speaker 2: thirty seven bases, hit twenty two home runs, scored one

683
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Speaker 2: hundred and two runs, and yet there is an overriding

684
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: feeling that there is more to offering, that the best

685
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Speaker 2: is yet to come, but that mostly needs to come

686
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Speaker 2: from his defense, where he really struggled down the stretch

687
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five and led the Majors in airs

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Speaker 2: for a second consecutive year. Ranking this high is still

689
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Speaker 2: based on potential because there are more reliable shortstops out there,

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Speaker 2: but being so young, this is an important year of

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Speaker 2: development ahead. Uh the injury, which is not mentioned by

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00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 2: busteromy down the stretch I think weight into this as well.

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Speaker 2: Have we talked enough about the struggles defensively and where

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Speaker 2: Ellie will be on that in the off season.

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Speaker 3: Every time we talk about it, we're told that it

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Speaker 3: was the quad injury that made him.

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Speaker 2: Right, but it was back to back years of leading

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Speaker 2: the majors. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, I know. I keep shout it down every time

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Speaker 3: we talk about his defense. Ah well he was hurt,

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Speaker 3: or oh well he's young. Okay, well this is a

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Speaker 3: year where I need to do to step up.

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Speaker 2: We have that to Charlie last week, and Charlie Caven

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Speaker 2: said disease, well, a lot of that they view as

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Speaker 2: injury related.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying I don't want them to view that anymore.

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Speaker 3: What do you say, there are no excuses? We see

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00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 3: better then we well, our good friend Marvin Lewis yes

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Speaker 3: to say that you see better than you.

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Speaker 2: Hear well, I need to see what I need to

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Speaker 2: see a better Ellie at shortstop.

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Speaker 3: I bet Marvin would agree.

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Speaker 2: I think Marvin, being a defensive guy, I think Marvin

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Speaker 2: could get the job done.

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Speaker 3: No more excuses, right like the I mean, dude's been

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Speaker 3: a big league since twenty twenty three. You're an athletic freak.

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Speaker 3: You've had a healthy offseason. Your quad is not an

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00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: issue anymore. You've had hundreds and hundreds of innings at

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Speaker 3: shortstop in the big leagues. You can't screw it up anymore.

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Speaker 2: Are there any shortstops on that list that his ceiling

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Speaker 2: is not higher than.

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Speaker 3: From a total player. I think Bobby WIT's the best. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that. I'd say he's better than Bobby Witt.

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Speaker 3: Who are the other guys? Uh, Geraldo Podomo, I don't

725
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 3: know enough about him. Gunner Henderson incredibly high ceiling. I

726
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Speaker 3: don't know that it's higher than Elias.

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Speaker 2: How about in Baltimore's wins Henderson slash three thirty one

728
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 2: four to seventeen five fifty nine and his losses and

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00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: their losses to twenty six to eighty seven three thirty eight.

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Speaker 3: I mean, without a doubt he's a monster. If he

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Speaker 3: has Pete Alonzo in the lineup, that could help him

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Speaker 3: a lot.

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Speaker 2: But like I think, at this point in his career,

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Speaker 2: Ellie's ceiling is higher than Lindor. Yeah, it's higher than

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Speaker 2: Corey Seeger. But I will say, I mean those are

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Speaker 2: very very high ceilings to have reached, correct. I mean

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Speaker 2: they've been consistent at that level. World choliber player. Sure, Uh,

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Speaker 2: let's take a break. We'll finish up hour ago one

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Speaker 2: thing for you when we come back.

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Speaker 3: We're good. You want to know what it is?

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Speaker 2: What is it?

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, We've got a Red's lineup today. Tom, it's

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Speaker 3: been a long time let's make this a quick break.

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Speaker 3: We'll do that next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 4: thirty I Hard.

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Speaker 8: Radio from the Johnson Heating temp Star Weather Center.

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Speaker 2: Here's your forecast.

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Speaker 8: Things get a little bit warmer today, but we're still

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Speaker 8: below average with a high near forty, a little bit

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Speaker 8: of sunshine, but also a lot of clouds out there,

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Speaker 8: and still a bit breezy. Overnight Tonight, temperatures barely change

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Speaker 8: and we could see some hit and miss light rain

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Speaker 8: in parts of the Tri State. The warm up continues

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Speaker 8: on Wednesday with a heihyear fifty two and more sunshine.

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Speaker 8: That's the forecast. I'm night first Warning met Religious smart Stits.

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Speaker 3: This report is sponsored by Red Pilled America. Why are There's.

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Speaker 1: Tony Pike Sincy three sixty continues now on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, it is since E three sixty ESBN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks to our friends at Skyline ChIL.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned something Austin that was a welcome sound. For

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Speaker 2: the first time in a long time, you mentioned that

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Speaker 2: we have a Red's lineup for this afternoon. Play it again.

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Speaker 2: There it is, there it is.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Red Legs back in action and Cactus League

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Speaker 3: play today. It is a three to five first pitch

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Speaker 3: in good year Arizona. Red's keep playing home games. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if they're gonna travel outside a good year

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Speaker 3: at all, but they take on the Kansas City Royals

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Speaker 3: this afternoon in this lineup right here, tone very well

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Speaker 3: could be what we see on opening Day. This, I

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Speaker 3: think is as close as it gets. Let me write

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Speaker 3: down this is how it goes. Leading off, the designated

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Speaker 3: hitter TJ. Friedel. The second batter is second baseman Matt

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Speaker 3: McClean sure batting third. The short stop Ellie de la Cruz.

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Speaker 3: The cleanup hitter is third baseman a you Hanio Suarez

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Speaker 3: batting fifth. The first baseman Spencer Steer. Will Benson bat sixth.

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Speaker 3: He's the left fielder. The seventh batter is catcher Tyler

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Speaker 3: Stevenson batting eighth and playing right field No.

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Speaker 6: L V.

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Speaker 3: Marte. The ninth batter and centerfielder is Dane Myers, with

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Speaker 3: lefty Andrew Abbott on the mound. Okay, once more for Cincinnati,

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Speaker 3: that's Freedol McLean, Dala, Cruz, Suarez, Steer, Benson, Stevenson, Marte

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Speaker 3: Myers with Abbot on the mount.

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Speaker 2: That sounds like the first win of spring training.

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Speaker 3: I mean hard to say otherwise. Now, I don't know

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Speaker 3: much about what the Royals got gone. They lose this

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Speaker 3: one today, panic mode. I'd like to see for sure

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Speaker 3: what pictures the Reds are going to be facing today.

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Speaker 3: Michael Waka, oh, long time at Saint Louis Cardinal Michael

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00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 3: Michael Waka is going to be on the mound for

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Speaker 3: the Royals. They're also going to be going up against

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Speaker 3: Jack Caglioni, also known as CAGs, top prospect for the

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Speaker 3: Royals that can be in right field today. Do not

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Speaker 3: see Jonathan India as part of the lineup. By the way,

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Speaker 3: India back to be in a full time second baseman

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Speaker 3: for Kansas City. There we go and uh yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean obviously the Reds can be facing a left hander

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Speaker 3: on opening day, so I don't know that Will Benson

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Speaker 3: is going to be in the lineup, Beamon. I would

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Speaker 3: imagine Spencer Steer will be in left that day and

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Speaker 3: South Stewart will probably be at first base. Suorez would

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Speaker 3: be the DH freedom would be in center and so on.

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Speaker 2: Okay, might guess before we get to Joe Daneman. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: we pull out this date in Cincinnati sports history. Do

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Speaker 2: you know what happened on this day ten years ago?

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Speaker 3: February twenty fourth, twenty sixteen, No, I don't.

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Speaker 2: The fifth ranked Xavier Musketeers knocked off the nation's number

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Speaker 2: one ranked team, the Villanova Wildcats. The Muskies and at

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Speaker 2: that time I'm a record crowd at the Centas Center

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Speaker 2: of ten thousand, seven hundred and twenty seven. It remains

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Speaker 2: the program's last win over a number one team in

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Speaker 2: the eight peopole nice that was the number five ranked Muskies,

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Speaker 2: number five verse number one. What a night, simpler times,

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Speaker 2: what an atmosphere, what a moment, and what a way

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Speaker 2: to finish up our number one Joe Danoman standing by

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Speaker 2: Joe to join us. Next, I'm gonna pull up map

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Speaker 2: Quest and I'm gonna look and try.

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Speaker 3: To match what year is it? Ten years ago?

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to map Quest and I'm gonna try

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Speaker 2: to guess how far into his trip to Lubbock, Texas

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Speaker 2: Joe Danman is when he joins us. Next. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: I would imagine he's on the road. We'll find out

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Speaker 2: where next with Joe Danaman from Fox nineteen on ESPN

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