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Speaker 1: DearS kfans, Ron Johnson and Eric Nordquist.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Vikings fan Line. I'm Nordo from nine to noon.

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Speaker 3: Ron Johnson is with me. What a disastrous mess of

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Speaker 3: a Vikings defeat at so far this evening thirty seven

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Speaker 3: to ten is the final. Just a nice little balanced

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Speaker 3: four hundred yard affair for the Chargers offense, more than

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Speaker 3: two hundred on the ground, very efficient, nice night for

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Speaker 3: Justin Herbert, nearly forty minutes of possession, and my goodness,

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Speaker 3: Ron Johnson, let's be humane. We need to save Carson

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Speaker 3: Wentz from himself. The experiment absolutely needs to end. He

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Speaker 3: might actually die out on the field. So it's gonna

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Speaker 3: be a bit of a truncated fan line tonight, being

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Speaker 3: that it is in primetime, I got Max Fuller on

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Speaker 3: the scene. As soon as the head coach is at

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Speaker 3: the podium, we're gonna We're gonna hear from Ko addressing

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Speaker 3: the media. But let's just jump into this. It's not

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Speaker 3: even about arguing. I just I want all of you

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Speaker 3: to sound off. I got some talk talkbacks loaded and

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Speaker 3: locked and ready to go. But to the phone lines,

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Speaker 3: Dan and Austin Dan, Welcome to Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 4: Hey, how you guys doing doing well?

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Speaker 2: What do you got?

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Speaker 4: You may remember I called in after the Pittsburgh game

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Speaker 4: and I talked about Addison getting caught from behind and

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Speaker 4: how just gutless that was. I actually tried to call

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Speaker 4: in last week and I was at the game, and

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Speaker 4: there was five words that came to mind. It was

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Speaker 4: the Vikings are gutless and high leverage situations. Tonight, paradoxically,

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Speaker 4: the only person who wasn't gutless was Carson Wentz. He

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Speaker 4: was hanging in there and I just have no idea

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Speaker 4: why KOC did not take him out of a game

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Speaker 4: and put Brozmer in a lot to talk about very

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Speaker 4: tough game. I'll hang up and listen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate it right off the bat, and we

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Speaker 3: will continue to sprinkle this in.

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Speaker 2: But I just want to I want to jump into

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Speaker 3: For me when he's holding his arm like it's about

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Speaker 3: to fall off. After the second time the Vikings passed

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Speaker 3: in third and short instead of trying to run the ball.

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Speaker 2: That was for me the moment.

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Speaker 3: Where I wanted to see mister Brosmoor Craig and Orno

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Speaker 3: Craig welcome to Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, thank you. So I know that KOs is

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Speaker 5: a former NFL quarterback that through a grand total of

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Speaker 5: five years. I don't think he's the best person to

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Speaker 5: a golfer season ticket holder, I've seen Max Brosmer do

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Speaker 5: really good things for the golfers that last season. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate that, and again I do. It's not

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Speaker 3: about cutting you off or avoiding the Brozemer conversation. But

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Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell is addressing the media. Let's hear from the coach.

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Speaker 6: No excuses, injuries, short week, whatever it is that is

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Speaker 7: To put on the field.

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Speaker 6: And we've got, as I told our team, we've got

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Speaker 7: Own this.

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Speaker 6: This is not a very the tape kind of time

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Speaker 6: for our organization. This is a watch it, view it

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Speaker 7: Every coach, every player, and it starts with me.

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Speaker 6: I did not have our team prepared to play, and

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Speaker 6: we'll go back to many aspects of what we need

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Speaker 7: I believe in our players wholeheartedly. I believe in every

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Speaker 6: We're going to go out there and put our best

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Speaker 6: But once again, in injuries and any other excuse, if

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Speaker 7: We will not be doing that.

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Speaker 6: We're going to meet this head on as an organization,

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Speaker 6: and that's what we're going to do. Injury wise, Christian

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Speaker 6: there was there were some times where yeah, we were

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Speaker 6: It felt like there was some sloppiness, like Blake said

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Speaker 7: But I got to do a better.

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Speaker 6: Job, you know, mitigating the challenges that we face in

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Speaker 9: Carson would like he was in paying past physically a

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we kept on, you know, we kept on, you know,

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Speaker 6: checking in maybe getting Max ready to go. But he

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Speaker 6: you know, you know, Tyler was coming to me a

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Speaker 6: on that, you know, Carson was uh, you know, he.

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Speaker 7: Was sore going into it, and he was able.

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Speaker 6: He took obviously quite a few hits and and uh,

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Speaker 6: but he was able to. You know, I asked him

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Speaker 6: he he said he was good and wanted to keep going.

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Speaker 6: I know it did seem like he was, you know,

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Speaker 6: Max and yeah, we did. I think, you know what

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Speaker 6: you have to you know, Carson's a veteran player. He

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Speaker 6: understands kind of some of our circumstances tonight. I think

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Speaker 6: it's very difficult to ask uh, you know, a rookie,

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Speaker 7: I did.

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Speaker 6: You know, I did think about that at different times

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Speaker 6: the confidence we have in Max and the upside we

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Speaker 6: see in Max is real. We just you know, you

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Speaker 6: also don't want to send him out there and force

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Speaker 6: was kind of where the decision was to to continue

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Speaker 6: to go with Carson as long as you know, Carson

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Speaker 6: the medical team did as.

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Speaker 10: Well, how will you approach that position here in the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think, you know, as we talked about earlier

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Speaker 6: get to. You know, if JJ's healthy, JJ O'll play.

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Speaker 6: That's been the case since the injury. That's always been

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Speaker 6: because that's really you know, that's what.

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Speaker 7: He wants and that's what he's been working towards.

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Speaker 6: You know. I know there was a lot of estimates

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Speaker 6: on what the injury timeline and everything with a high

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Speaker 7: We'll see, we'll see how Carson comes out tonight. As

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Speaker 7: far as what our overall quarterback depth looks like. But

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Speaker 6: We'll prepare our team, you know, at every position, based

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Speaker 6: upon what our health looks like. But we also need

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's he coach Kevin O'Connell addressing the media. It

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Speaker 3: has to be JJ. So that's just uh, that's just

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Speaker 3: one rube's opinion here via fan line.

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Speaker 2: Let's do this.

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Speaker 3: Let's uh, let's catch up with our with our great

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Speaker 3: network stations. Let's pause for station identification. This is Minnesota

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Speaker 3: Vikings Football.

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Speaker 11: Sports Leader.

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Speaker 3: Fan Mark, and Wisconsin it's Vikings fan line Mark. Welcome

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Speaker 3: to Vikings fan Line.

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Speaker 11: Man, guys, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 2: Husband a long time.

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Speaker 11: I've been listening to you guys for jeez, over twenty

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Speaker 11: some years. I was going to say something a lot

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Speaker 11: of people took away.

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Speaker 13: The thunder about when you see a quarterback hurt like that,

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Speaker 13: and I'm a coach and youth football, you got to

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Speaker 13: pull him out.

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Speaker 11: I mean, you can't put him back out.

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Speaker 13: There, but it's not the end of the world. Probley

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Speaker 13: Viking fans. I was at buy Grandstooner with Tommy Kramer,

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Speaker 13: by the way, he's a great guy. It sucks tonight,

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Speaker 13: but there are more important things in life, like your kids,

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Speaker 13: your wife, your grandkids, your true friends. In the end,

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Speaker 13: we'll forget about this game and we'll focus on moving

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Speaker 13: forward and don't lose friends over a game or something

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Speaker 13: stupid like this. Everybody, you're going to forget about this

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Speaker 13: game in a week or two.

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Speaker 11: It's like when he coached football or baseball. For t ball,

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Speaker 11: the kids didn't matter after a few minutes, they just

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Speaker 11: Let's do the same thing. Let's learn from the mistakes

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Speaker 2: And I'm just.

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Speaker 13: Glad no one really walked away with serious injuries tonight.

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Speaker 11: Appreciated thing you did.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Mark the wise words, real life versus the frivolity of sport.

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Speaker 3: During the portion we had to call just before waiting,

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Speaker 2: And then you heard during the pressure run.

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Speaker 3: That he had thought about putting I mean, you had

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Speaker 2: They don't run it, pass it. It's a disaster.

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Speaker 3: The ball's batted up in the air and Carson can't

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Speaker 3: then he's absolutely I mean in just agony walking himself

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Speaker 15: what ten days is jaj McCarthy gonna be ready to go?

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Speaker 15: As I know is when Justin Jefferson came charging at him,

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Speaker 15: I heard some people say, like, oh, he was limping

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Speaker 2: He was ready to go, you know, he was ready

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Speaker 15: have just put Max Brosmour in that game kind of

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Speaker 2: See what you have.

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Speaker 15: And I don't understand why you kept the three timeouts

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Speaker 15: Max Brozmer actually was doing something. I get they were

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Speaker 3: I needed to be let them try to score, let

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Speaker 3: Max get his get let's get his stuff. I well,

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Speaker 3: it needed to be over, sure, and it was not over.

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Speaker 3: And I just don't like that excuse weathering it for everyone.

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Speaker 3: Carson's been weathering it for everybody. And and whether it

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Speaker 3: Has has just been on this steep, precipitous decline, and

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Speaker 3: it was brutal to watch at times. And so the

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Speaker 3: as a guy, we needed that to end.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that interception was bad.

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Speaker 15: Oh that was just I mean justin Jefferson's face alone

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Like, where are you going it?

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Speaker 3: Thirty seven to ten is the final. We're gonna pause,

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Speaker 3: We're gonna come back, and we're gonna jump right back

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Speaker 3: into the phone lines. Now that we got the presser

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Speaker 3: through some calls. It's not even necessarily about arguing or anything. Tonight,

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Speaker 3: Rubes let it out, whether it's the talkback machine, free

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Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app, hit that microphone, give us thirty seconds. The

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Speaker 3: hold lines are full. We're gonna continue this Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 3: Vikings now three and four after the nasty, disastrous loss

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Speaker 3: at so far. This is Minnesota Vikings football.

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Speaker 12: Minnesota Sports follow the Leader, Minnesota Sports Leader is FM

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Speaker 12: one hundred.

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Speaker 2: Point three fact listing call the fan.

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Speaker 14: In.

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Speaker 16: This coaching staff of the Minnesota Vikings desperately lacks having

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Speaker 16: the eye of the tiger. Not a lot of passion there.

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Speaker 16: Josh McCown after the first half going off the field, laughing,

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Speaker 16: totally inexcusable. This team needs to show some aggression and

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Speaker 2: Going to have to make some serious changes.

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Speaker 3: First of all, that guy's voice sounds a lot like

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Speaker 3: offensive coordinator Wes Phillips.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if that was Wes actually.

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Speaker 17: Call it in.

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Speaker 2: Probably not. I saw that too.

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Speaker 3: Max and I were actually Max and I and a

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Speaker 2: It's not their fault. They don't know the cameras on Imron.

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Speaker 3: But you saw Josh McCown and Carson Wentz Actually after

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Speaker 3: that play I was talking about where he couldn't move

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Speaker 2: We're just chucking it up, just having a blast on

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Speaker 3: Blast watching that while Vikings fans are just crushed and

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I don't know what's going on in that moment,

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Speaker 15: but you know, Carson must have did something, said some

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Speaker 15: you know, pain whatever, and Josh's maybe if you're trying

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Speaker 15: to get him, you know, the loosen up, standing in

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Speaker 15: good mood, because again, quarterbacks are very fickle and you

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Speaker 15: you know, don't get too tense like we got we

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Speaker 15: still got this. Yeah they didn't have it, No, it

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Speaker 15: was it was pretty much over that that That play

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Speaker 15: alone should have been the Max Brozmer inter game. Yes,

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Speaker 15: like it should have been. That's what I thought was

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Speaker 15: He could do for us this year. No, let Max

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Speaker 15: Brozmer go in when it's a chance to still win

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Speaker 2: Talkback machine, stand.

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Speaker 18: Why O'Connell stuck with wins as long as he did.

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Speaker 18: If I have three vehicles in mind driveway and two

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Speaker 18: by taking the other two vehicles out, I actually.

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Speaker 2: Like that analogy. Thank you for the talkbacks. Let me see.

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Speaker 8: Here, Steve from Caask, I was just wondering if chask

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Speaker 7: What the hell?

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Speaker 2: What do you Steve?

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Speaker 3: This is probably not what the team had envisioned when

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Speaker 2: Let me see here, got any more good talkbacks? I

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Speaker 3: Full phone lines. We'll go to Shane and Sioux Falls. Shane,

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 17: Hey Nordo, how's my brisket smoking? Beirdrik and Buddy oh Man.

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Speaker 2: I need to cook something up to wash this thing away. Brother,

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Speaker 2: What do you got?

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Speaker 17: I could go with the low hanging food with everything else,

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Speaker 17: but I'm gonna go big picture. Mark Wolf needs to

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Speaker 17: this this doesn't work, you know, the way they're they're good,

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Speaker 17: they're going about this, and we got no depth. And

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Speaker 17: there's that whole thing. And I'm not going to get

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Speaker 17: you know, But koc tonight set the tone. Third and one,

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Speaker 17: I feel bad for Bflow because he's trying to make

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Speaker 17: given six new starters every year. But on offense too,

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Speaker 17: you just see mc Chargers give up one hundred and

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Speaker 17: through the first thirty five minutes of the game Tonight

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Speaker 17: rushed five times for ten yards. And I know you've

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Speaker 17: got injuries, but you're a professional coaching staff, and you

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Speaker 17: got fifty three professional football players. You can coach these

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Speaker 17: guys up now. Commit penalties, play good, hard football, and

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Speaker 17: be respectable on the field. Jim Harbaugh did that tonight.

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Speaker 17: His team is ravaged by injuries, and he showed tonight

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Speaker 17: maybe to the Wills mirror, maybe they should I heard

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Speaker 17: Jim Harball instead of Kevin O'Connell. But it comes down

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Speaker 17: to coaching to a degree as well. And this team

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Speaker 17: is now well coach right now. Too many dumb mistakes.

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Speaker 17: They don't ask you, well, there's something going on. I'll

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Speaker 17: let you go, Nordle. I appreciate your time, Love you too, Ron,

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Speaker 17: appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: No, I appreciate I appreciate you calling in.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 19: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They were outclassed and out coached at every every step

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Speaker 2: There there's no disagreement there.

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Speaker 3: And the season long vibe Ron, you know, undisciplined from

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Speaker 2: Whatever word you want to use. That in the end.

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Speaker 2: Uh this this team is not standing up to the challenge. No,

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Speaker 15: Baltimore is not looking great right now. I mean, Oamar

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Speaker 15: Jackson is back this week, so we'll see what they

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Speaker 15: you'll see how the Bears handle this. With Lamar's first return,

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Speaker 15: The Ravens defense hasn't been great, but you got the Lions,

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Speaker 15: do you bounce back three and four? I mean, they're

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Speaker 15: And at what point do you say, all right, let's

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Speaker 15: just put Max Brosemur in. Like if JJ McCarthy can't go,

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Speaker 15: Carson Wentz is gonna.

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Speaker 2: Give you this now.

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Speaker 15: One tweeter tweeted us because he says, we keep talking

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Speaker 15: about the quarterback. They didn't give up a four hundred

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Speaker 15: and nineteen yards of offense or sorry, yeah, of offense

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Speaker 2: You know, how much do we.

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Speaker 15: Put on Carson or what's his name, Herbert having sixty

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Speaker 15: two yards rushing? You know, the same defensive blitz and

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Speaker 15: the same gap in the middle of the field open,

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Speaker 15: and the same lack of a spy to keep Carson

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Speaker 15: Wentz in the pocket.

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Speaker 2: Yep, No, the defense requires a ton of counts.

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Speaker 15: Like you know, you look at the blown coverages, you

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Speaker 15: look at the wide open receivers. I mean, we know

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Speaker 15: lab mcconcky and Keenan McCardell are good, but even the

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Speaker 15: tight end, you know, gads get or Gads did like

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Speaker 15: out of nowhere.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he did have a great game last week too, but.

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Speaker 15: At some point you have to figure out how to

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Speaker 15: guard him, like you have to maybe start treating him.

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Speaker 15: I'm not saying this, but like you should have treated

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Speaker 15: him like one of the top tight ends on the field,

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Speaker 15: Like you got to treat him like that. Yeah, And

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Speaker 15: it just felt like the game plan. I don't know

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Speaker 15: what it was, but it wasn't good. No, and Carson

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Speaker 15: or not Carson Wentz, but justin Herbert, they made him

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Speaker 15: look like freaking I don't know, Aaron Rodgers or Lamar

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Speaker 15: Jackson when he runs about like it just like Aaron

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Speaker 15: Rodgers back in what twenty fourteen fifteen, Like he was

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Speaker 15: just running everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they couldn't tackle him like it was as bad.

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Speaker 3: It was Dan and West Saint Paul, Dan, Welcome to

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Speaker 3: Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 20: Hey, how's it going?

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Speaker 2: Wonderful? Thank you? What do you got?

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Speaker 20: Well, I'm wondering why would you even consider putting McCarthy

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Speaker 20: in until you get that offensive line short up? Because,

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Speaker 20: like Ron was saying, Wentz was just pancaked on the

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Speaker 20: floor all night, You're just looking at McCarthy getting another

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Speaker 20: injury and yeah, I'm just like, why would you even

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Speaker 20: consider that until they get that line short of?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get you. I appreciate the call. I don't

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Speaker 3: know where you're at around it's because he has to play

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Speaker 3: correct what he has to and not then you need

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Speaker 3: to go sign Daniel Jones when the season ends.

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Speaker 2: And I would ask.

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Speaker 3: I would also argue whether it's injury or whatever the

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Speaker 3: situation is, you know, from a combination of health and

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Speaker 3: then in some cases ineptitude. The offense was way off

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Speaker 3: from a timing standpoint for most of the game. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: if he walked himself into some of those sacks. It

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Speaker 3: wasn't just our offensive line is so terrible. It's it's

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Speaker 3: it's giving him no time whatsoever to make a play.

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Speaker 3: There are elements of this that that Carson has to own,

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Speaker 3: I think as well.

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Speaker 15: But fourth down, fourth and goal, why are you taking

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Speaker 15: this its fourth and goal? Just throw it to somebody. Yeah,

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Speaker 15: I get the whole Like, well, if he takes a

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Speaker 15: sack right there, then they have to drive ninety yards

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Speaker 15: to score. If he throws interception end zone, it goes

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Speaker 15: to the twenty. So what nobody's thinking that in the moment.

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Speaker 15: You're not saying, hey, if there's nothing there, just to

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Speaker 15: take the sack.

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Speaker 2: Now, whether it's that it's the intentional grounding against.

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Speaker 15: The Eagles and it was a flag, I mean they

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Speaker 15: end up scoring, We know that they end up but

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Speaker 15: it was a flag, so you should have thrown it anyway.

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Speaker 3: Like, just the amount of weird stuff, the amount of

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Speaker 3: red zone dumb that's taking place right now is truly inexplicable.

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Speaker 2: Nick and Minneapolis.

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Speaker 3: I'm hoping that the note here is is true because

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Speaker 3: I loved Jalen Redman and have as he becomes one

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Speaker 3: of our better Defenders, Nick and Minneapolis, Welcome to Vikings

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Speaker 3: fan line.

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Speaker 21: Hey guys, thanks for having me on today.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 21: I just wanted to touch on two things, the first

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Speaker 21: one being when you guys covered the Jailen Redman appreciation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 21: Think he gives enough credit from biking fans.

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Speaker 2: He's been awesome and tonight was.

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Speaker 21: A full display. I mean, he had a hand in

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Speaker 21: every play. It looked like he was the only one

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Speaker 21: that wanted to be out there. And then one other

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Speaker 21: thing is I want to talk about Adam deeln trade.

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Speaker 21: I'm kind of curious why we made it. Traded for

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Speaker 21: a fourth round pick, for a guy that gets no targets,

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Speaker 21: and for someone that doesn't want to be here, and

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Speaker 21: for his wife to be such a paint.

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Speaker 2: What happened? He didn't finish it. That was curious. What

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Speaker 2: else he was going to say?

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Speaker 3: Have a great night, Nick in Minneapolis, Jalen Redman has

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Speaker 3: been awesome. I don't think I think Adam Felan wants

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Speaker 3: to be here. I think Adam Feelan wants more targets.

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Speaker 3: I think the offense is a complete disaster. Back to

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Speaker 3: the phone lines, Robert in Corporate Robert, Welcome, to Vikings

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Speaker 3: fan line.

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Speaker 22: Hey, thank you guys for having me. I really enjoy

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Speaker 22: your program. And I've been watching the Vikings for a

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Speaker 22: well almost sixty years. And you know something, the end

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Speaker 22: result each year is about the same. And no matter who,

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Speaker 22: you know, we're the only team that has I think

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Speaker 22: my memory serves me correct that we've lost four Super Bowls.

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Speaker 11: So I mean, you know, they go.

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Speaker 22: Out and they and they play, but you know, the

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Speaker 22: bottom line is we just don't ever seem to put

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Speaker 22: the final touches on the on the on the game

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Speaker 22: or on the you know, what we need to do.

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Speaker 22: So I don't know, I'm I just frustrated, you know.

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Speaker 22: Like I say, I watched and listen to every game

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Speaker 22: I can, and and like I say, I was watching

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Speaker 22: that when that was black and white TV, you know.

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Speaker 22: So yeah, it's just interesting, you know, and it's just

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Speaker 22: too bad that I don't know, I don't know enough

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Speaker 22: about the game, you know, if they need to replace

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Speaker 22: the coaches or not. But the owners should really take

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Speaker 22: a serious look at what kind of investment they have

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Speaker 22: and and what they should what they really want to

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Speaker 22: do in the future too, maybe win a full year

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Speaker 22: of games or you know, at least maybe be in

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Speaker 22: the Super Bowl again.

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Speaker 11: Obviously this year.

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Speaker 22: I don't believe it will happen.

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really appreciate you calling in and appreciate you

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Speaker 3: following the team and struggling through these Super Bowl losses.

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Speaker 2: And have a great night.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, all right, thank you Alex and Minnetrista. Alex,

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, hey, thank you for listening. You know, the problem

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Speaker 14: with this team is is leadership. They have an extremely

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Speaker 14: talented group of young men and a complete failure of

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Speaker 14: leadership as fart as discipline as concern right, anytime the

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Speaker 14: team allows special I'm using my fingers to say that player,

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Speaker 14: we're a completely different uniform with a million dollars worth

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Speaker 14: of diamonds and so forth. It's screams that there isn't

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Speaker 14: a team atmosphere. There's a lack of discipline that's going

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Speaker 14: to translate to all of the failures that we're seeing

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Speaker 14: right now.

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Speaker 2: No, I can't agree with you more.

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Speaker 3: You know, as you referring to like Justin Jefferson wearing

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Speaker 3: diamonds or something, I don't know if that leads to

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Speaker 3: the lack of discipline.

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Speaker 2: I know the penalties show.

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Speaker 3: It, and I mean, how about can we just have

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Speaker 3: a special teams play once in a while. Miles Price

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Speaker 3: is working his butt off back there, Ron, and we

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Speaker 3: just we can't get out of our own way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Every time there's a big play, there's a holding

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Speaker 2: or something.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So you know, from from a leadership standpoint and just

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Speaker 3: the organization of what we're seeing on game day, it's

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Speaker 3: very much lacking. So in that regard, Alex, I totally

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Speaker 3: agree with you. We're gonna pause and continue Vikings fan Line.

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Speaker 3: Ron Johnson's here on Nordo from nine to noon, Max

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Speaker 3: Fuller with us continuing to take your calls eight hundred

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Speaker 3: three two zero five three two six talkback machine free,

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Speaker 3: iHeartRadio apps and play, get some tech messages, and we're

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Speaker 3: going to continue on thirty seven to ten, the final

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Speaker 3: at SO five Vikings now three and four.

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Speaker 2: This is Minnesota Vikings Football.

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Speaker 12: Your radio home for Viking Football FM one hundred point

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Speaker 12: three KF.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back Vikings fan Line.

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Speaker 3: Thirty seven to ten, the Final at SO five Vikings

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Speaker 3: now three and four. A disastrous night across the board.

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Speaker 3: Out coach, outclassed and we're licking our wounds with a

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Speaker 3: baby bye and hopefully Carson Wentz and I don't know

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Speaker 3: what kind of mash unit it's going to take to

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Speaker 3: put him together. It was Kirk Cousins who once said

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Speaker 3: that every week felt like a car accident, and well,

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Speaker 3: Carson Wentz looks like he's been in a ten car

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Speaker 3: pile up over the last month.

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Speaker 2: Talkback machine, let's.

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Speaker 23: Listen, please, Ko, you're not earning your money. O'Neil, You're

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Speaker 23: not earning your money. A lot of guys aren't earning

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Speaker 23: their money. Man, this is not good. They better get

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Speaker 23: it together and pray. Ben Kinkle gets back one offensive lineman.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's terrible. This is terrible. Rich Texas, Hey, thanks man,

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Speaker 2: appreciate it. Feel your pain.

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Speaker 24: I'm sending a talk back through the Arheart radio app.

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Speaker 24: Do you have the guts to play it? I have

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Speaker 24: the guts to say, Koc, you need to embrace the

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Speaker 24: youth movement. Seeing Wentz out there getting beat up and

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Speaker 24: be horrible is not winning football. You need to embrace

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Speaker 24: winning football. Put in the youth movement. This team needs Annema.

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Speaker 2: Come on, KOC change. I love the production work.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that, just.

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Speaker 2: Didn't do an audio book talkbacks. The guys were in

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Speaker 2: a Batman costume.

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Speaker 25: Let Carson Wentz sit out there for as long as

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Speaker 25: he was, especially with him being as injured as he was.

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Speaker 25: I I don't understand that at all. And why didn't

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Speaker 25: the medical team pull Wentz out? Why was he out there?

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Speaker 25: He was clearly not wanting to be out there. It

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Speaker 25: was a complete disaster. Put in girls were.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I have to disagree with you. I think Wentz

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Speaker 2: does want to be out there.

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Speaker 3: He definitely does. That's uh, that's uh. But but be

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Speaker 3: humane and save Carson Wentz from himself. Another talkback, Kosy.

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Speaker 10: Only given Brosmer two minutes at the end of the

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Speaker 10: game to prove himself as pretty telling to me, he

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Speaker 10: clearly is protecting JJ McCarthy and is worried that if

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Speaker 10: Brosmer plays better, oh, there could be a little quarterback

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Speaker 10: controversy and he doesn't want that for his little.

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Speaker 2: Little precious JJ McCarthy. What do you think of that?

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Speaker 3: Rod A little so ko, a sacrificial lamb that is

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Speaker 3: Carson Wentz. He's not putting in Brosemur, which I think

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Speaker 3: we all agree we needed to see bros murr the

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Speaker 3: Carson bit sadly love Carson, You're a warrior. It had

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Speaker 3: to end and it did not, and that I have

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Speaker 3: a problem with that. What do you think about the

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Speaker 3: idea that the court that the coach is protecting prize

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Speaker 3: possession by not putting in highly potential laden rookie, the

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Speaker 3: undrafted cat who could I mean, what if he puts

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Speaker 3: together a couple of scoring drives, things just look efficient.

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Speaker 3: It's back in timing Vikings even still lose the game.

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Speaker 3: But now we got the baby buy and a week

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Speaker 3: of the kid who's supposed to be healthy in a

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Speaker 3: full practice week into the kiddies game.

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Speaker 2: And people are like, I mean the goat, look at

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Speaker 2: the Gopher, look at the look at backs.

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Speaker 3: Look at what backs did, And that's better than what

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Speaker 3: we saw from the eight quarters of the top ten

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Speaker 3: draft pick stick with Brozmer, Yeah, what do you think

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Speaker 3: about that? Maybe the coach is a little worried about

662
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Speaker 3: that type of noise in the atmosphere here in Minnesota. Yeah,

663
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 3: I mean I saw in eleven get hurt one time

664
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Speaker 3: and go off on the field, and twelve came in

665
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 3: and he's been cooming one of the greatest quarterbacks ever

666
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 3: could have happened today.

667
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: They could eleven should have walked off, twelve should have

668
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: walked on. I didn't even think of that.

669
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Speaker 15: Yep, Jaselle Buneon would have showed up on a white cloud,

670
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Speaker 15: came over La.

671
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: It's a movie. You think Giselle, Well, it's a movie.

672
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 3: You think Giselle would have gotten used to the I

673
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 3: mean just Minnesota in general.

674
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: Jiu jitsu. She likes jiu jitsu. That's what I've heard

675
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: as well.

676
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 3: Thank you for the talkbacks, a couple of phone calls,

677
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 3: and obviously Bledsoe into Brady in case people weren't eleven

678
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 3: into twelve. How about this, Nathan maple Grove, Nathan, welcome

679
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 3: to Vikings fan line.

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00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 26: Oh yeah, I was just wondering, why does it seem

681
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 26: like Kevin O'Connell is immune to using the middle of

682
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Speaker 26: the field.

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00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 21: We're sending tosses over to Jordan Nason. I get excited

684
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 21: when I see.

685
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 26: A slant route.

686
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.

687
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 17: I mean that's about it, but.

688
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Speaker 2: No, thanks, okay, yeah, oh, absolutely, have a good night.

689
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Speaker 3: I haven't even yet to use I almost had to

690
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: use the dump button there with with old Nick in Minneapolis,

691
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 3: but I get bailed out thankfully. Uh, the the middle

692
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 3: of the field, that's kind of been I mean it

693
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 3: kind of echoes what you've talked about a bit, you know.

694
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 3: He mentions, get I get excited when I see a slant,

695
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 3: and I must say, it's kind of weird to say

696
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 3: this forty year old man sports fan.

697
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: I kind of get excited when I see a slant

698
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 2: to ride. I kind of like it.

699
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 3: And they've been pretty effective un less uh, and unless

700
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 3: Jalen Carter is blowing up Blake Brandell and putting his

701
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 3: helmet into the ribs of Carson Wentz and Wentz doesn't

702
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 3: see Jaylex hunting Jaylex, Honk catches it and goes back

703
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: to the end zone. But other than that, slants seem

704
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 3: to work pretty well now utilized in the middle of

705
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Speaker 3: the field.

706
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Speaker 2: What do you think, well, slants' sexy.

707
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Speaker 15: I don't really know why they do. So they do

708
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 15: run the dig route, you know, they do have that yep.

709
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 15: I don't know if they feel like Carson Wentz can

710
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 15: make some of those throws because he has that side

711
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 15: like his platform and an arm angle is kind of

712
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 15: lower than like he's not getting over the ball. So

713
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 15: remember Breeze kind of had the lean back and he

714
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 15: kind of was looking up when he threw and he

715
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 15: like wentz kind of is like a weird angle, Like

716
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 15: it's always like a fingertip might hit. Like the one

717
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 15: at Justin Jefferson at the beginning of the game that

718
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 15: he call got hit, you know, like even that when

719
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 15: I was like, how did.

720
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Speaker 2: That get hit?

721
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Speaker 26: So?

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Speaker 3: How about one even the one he threw Vikings, I

723
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 3: think that was on the touchdown drive. Uh, the the

724
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Speaker 3: one behind t J.

725
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Speaker 2: Hawkinson.

726
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Speaker 3: He also had one where he didn't even set his

727
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 3: feet and just kind of side arm chucked.

728
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 2: At at you're a sack. Yeah, you're a sack.

729
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 15: So short middle you talked about middle right, So short

730
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 15: middle deep middle right.

731
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

732
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 15: The Chargers for this season have completed or sorry, have

733
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 15: ran seventy one plays offensively when they go to the

734
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 15: middle of the field, short or deep. The Minnesota Vikings,

735
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 15: do you want to guess thirty thirty seven really just

736
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 15: compared to seventy one and you got fifties fifty five,

737
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 15: fifty eight, sixty five, sixty nine, seventy eight like the

738
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Speaker 15: teams there, and of course you know the forty nine

739
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 15: ers sixty nine times in the middle like they they

740
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 15: are they that's the offense, Yeah, Kevin O'Connell. And maybe

741
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 15: I'll go back and look at last year's and see

742
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 15: what's the different. I like, did he do it last

743
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 15: year with Darnold. He's just not doing it yet right

744
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 15: now compared. But it's just it's it's it's it's amazing

745
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 15: to me the lack of slants, Like I don't understand

746
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 15: why everything and the caller is right, everything is offside.

747
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 15: It's always like quick outside to Justin Jefferson, let me

748
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 15: do it, and it doesn't. It doesn't always work right,

749
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 15: like out routes you're you're asking.

750
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: For pick six well.

751
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 3: And I also I also feel like because timing has

752
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 3: to be perfect on those out routes as you're mentioned,

753
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 3: correct and sadly we saw it from the Kid QB

754
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 3: and the Bears game and na Sean Wright took one back.

755
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 3: But at the other end, sometimes you're kind of you're

756
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 3: limiting and mitigating space and opportunity for yards after catch.

757
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 3: And some of the good plays we've seen from Justin

758
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 3: Jefferson this year have been some things through the middle

759
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 3: in which he's been able to make one guy miss

760
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 3: and find his way through for an extra twenty yards,

761
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 3: so middle of the field between those hashes.

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Speaker 2: Let's get after it.

763
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Speaker 3: Let's take a let's take another call, and then we'll

764
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Speaker 3: pause several more segments to go. Vikings fan Line, John

765
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 3: and Scottsdale. John, Welcome to Vikings fan Line. Thanks for calling.

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00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 3: What do you got.

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00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 27: Hey, Thanks Nardo, big fan man. I'll tell you a

768
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 27: lot to Ron guy, Yamuro.

769
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Speaker 2: The boat go go for there, you go, thank you.

770
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 3: They're gonna get the They're gonna get the pig on Saturday.

771
00:37:59,280 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 2: Let's handle that for.

772
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 4: Let's secure the pig.

773
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 5: Let's secure the hogs.

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Speaker 27: Guys, I'm telling you, I mean this game was over immediately.

775
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 26: Unfortunately.

776
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 5: KOs He really sets the tone there that third and one.

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Speaker 27: I mean, I love the guy, I really do love

778
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 27: the guy with What are we doing? Why did we

779
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 27: go get Jordan Nason? Why did we try to secure

780
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 27: the interior of the offensive line? And I mean, my god,

781
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,479
Speaker 27: it I was hoping that Carson Wentzton get sent back

782
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 27: in a casket to Minnesota. I mean, I was really

783
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 27: hoping for the best of my guy.

784
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 4: But I mean, in the.

785
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Speaker 27: Second half, would love to see a little more Max

786
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 27: Brosen reaction at this point, maybe we uh take a

787
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 27: good look at Drake Lindsay in a year or two.

788
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 27: But no, thanks, guys, love you been been listening to

789
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 27: the fan for a long time, so appreciate it.

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00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 2: And I'll hang up and shut up, love you.

791
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, the third down, Yeah, the third and one at

792
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 3: their own four at their own forty one. And then

793
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 3: we're nitpicking now because the game got out of hand.

794
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 3: You only had five freaking rush attempts in the first half.

795
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 3: Unacceptable under any circumstances. Third and one at the forty one,

796
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 3: you throw it, and it was incomplete, obviously, and then

797
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 3: you punt. You throw it on third, and then you punt.

798
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 3: You only throw it on third if you are intending

799
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 3: for a forty speaker sort so you hit on that earlier.

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00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 3: And then of course the third and two at the

801
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: forty seven you throw it. And then and then Carson

802
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 3: Wentz cam move his arm because he has to back

803
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 3: down his own previously batted up pass, and uh yeah,

804
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 3: the the team and you hit on it. I've been

805
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I just feel like I have to. I

806
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 3: have to contradict myself from week to week or a

807
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 3: week ago. They're one and six in the in the

808
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 3: red zone. People clamoring for more run plays, and I'm

809
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 3: trying to just see you know, it's like fifty to

810
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: fifty to Justin Jefferson like, I like that play, and

811
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 3: we saw things schemed open. So in a vacuum, I'm

812
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 3: thinking to myself, talking, talking myself out of my own argument,

813
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 3: and I'm saying, he's scheme guys open.

814
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 2: Quarterbacks just got to hit him.

815
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 3: But in the end, since Kevin O'Connell has come here,

816
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 3: it's true, this team's like a seventy plus percent throwing

817
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 3: team on third and short and offensive line discombobulated as

818
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 3: it is. Well, do I want him to step back

819
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 3: and throw or would I like to take my chances

820
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 3: with a couple of run plays. I mean, you can

821
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Speaker 3: use that offensive line argument either way.

822
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Speaker 2: And there was another thing during.

823
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 3: His press conference that I wanted to hit into. He

824
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 3: was asked about the run he said he didn't want

825
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 3: to walk us into a third and long. Well, you

826
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 3: had a third and one, you had a third and two,

827
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 3: and you didn't run the ball, So you had those chances.

828
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 3: You didn't run it there either, So she didn't run

829
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 3: it out of worried to be third and long, and

830
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 3: then when you had the third and shorts, he didn't

831
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: run it either. I'm having a hard time with Iran

832
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 3: the run plays and that run rhythm.

833
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: Is this has to be better, I believe. Yeah.

834
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Speaker 15: And the thing is, though, we saw a couple of

835
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 15: things you hit on when you look at third and

836
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 15: three to one, right, so third three to one? Yeah,

837
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 15: the Minnesota Vikings, they're way too like twelve passes to

838
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 15: ten runs. You shouldn't be there, right, it's two balanced.

839
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 15: There's no reason to be balanced on third and one.

840
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 15: You look at the Philadelphia Eagles. We already know the

841
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 15: answer there, like go get the first down. You know

842
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 15: the LA Chargers. Guess what they do on third and

843
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 15: one to three? They run the ball. Twenty one times.

844
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 15: They run the ball. And they're not even known for

845
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 15: running the ball.

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00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 3: How about this, they were they had twenty nine first

847
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 3: downs tonight. Yeah, they only had to get nine of

848
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 3: them on third down. I mean they got twenty first

849
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 3: downs tonight on first and second down.

850
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

851
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 3: But when they get there, they'll run the ball, is

852
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 3: what they'll do. They were nine to thirteen on third

853
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 3: down tonight. Run the ball, they certainly do. And you

854
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 3: know they're actually at it. They're running at a lower

855
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 3: rate in twenty twenty five than they were even a

856
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 3: year ago, and bringing in Jordan Mason, and you know,

857
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 3: kind of excited about, you know, keeping what this tandem

858
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 3: would look like with with Aaron Jones. It has not

859
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 3: come to fruition through seven games. Let's pause and continue

860
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 3: on it's Vikings fan line. Vikings lose thirty seven to

861
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 3: ten at so far. And the home team, the Los

862
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 3: Angeles Chargers, who I believe had lost three of four

863
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 3: and they had given up one hundred and forty yards

864
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 3: on the ground a game, and they were really gripping

865
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 3: and couldn't figure out who was going to run the

866
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 3: ball for him. I'm making Vidal Sassoon stupid, stupid jokes

867
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Speaker 3: all week.

868
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: Well, Vidal got loose. What was I supposed to do?

869
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Speaker 26: Ron?

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00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but Vidal was fantastic tonight because Harbaugh, what

871
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 3: did he do?

872
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: He committed to the Rocks. Sassoon, he was still a thing.

873
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 3: I don't think it is super outdated.

874
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: Caln, Yeah for Kalgan take me away, all right?

875
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 3: So see this is this is where we're at. The

876
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 3: teams three and four and uh, we're very frustrated. Four

877
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 3: hundred yards of offense those chargers. What are we doing?

878
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: Flores?

879
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 3: Okay, we got to figure that out and we're going

880
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Speaker 3: to continue to take calls, texts and talkbacks. It's Vikings

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Speaker 3: Fan Line on Kfan and the Minnesota Vikings Audio Network.

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Speaker 28: Football on FM one hundred point three KFAS and get

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Speaker 27: Hey guys, Nick from Hawaii, Oh, say hello, how how

886
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 27: about Sam Donald?

887
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: How about him?

888
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 21: You know, literal had been the worst case scen area.

889
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 21: If Sam Donald tore it up like you did.

890
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 2: The previous year, the bout like the two games and J. J.

891
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 21: McCarthy sat on the bench and watched this win a.

892
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 2: Super Bowl team. Yeah, I just the whole setting.

893
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 7: Head of Donald.

894
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Speaker 21: I've been a fan of them all time.

895
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Speaker 2: Pucky of your thoughts, Yeah, I appreciated Nick. I mean,

896
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 2: at the time, the.

897
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 3: Conversation was, you couldn't do what you did in free

898
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 3: agency if you had paid Sam Darnold whatever that money

899
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 3: would have looked like. At one point it sounded like

900
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 3: they were set on They offered a contract to Daniel Jones.

901
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones took one look and he said, Minnesota or Indy,

902
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy the way everything's pushing towards him and the

903
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 3: future here or Anthony Richardson. I wonder which one is

904
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 3: going to give me the greater opportunity to start. And

905
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 3: it looks like Daniel Jones took. But yeah, no, now,

906
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Speaker 3: I mean fast forward though, I'm starting to think to myself,

907
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 3: what what are the additions outside of Isaiah Rodgers. Correct,

908
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 3: I'm having trouble pulling, you know, finding that return on investment.

909
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kuda has not done much.

910
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 3: Sadly, he's got I mean, you know all Joe, I

911
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 3: want him to be healthy, but sadly, I think he's

912
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 3: got more concussions and passes defense in twenty twenty five

913
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 3: and like he got injured tonight, so hoping he gets healthy.

914
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: But man, him, I.

915
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Speaker 3: Couldn't tell if it was that Okuda on lad McConkie,

916
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Speaker 3: or was that yeah, yeah, Elijah Williams trying trying to

917
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Speaker 3: run down the field, Yeah yeah, it was Yeah, it's

918
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Speaker 3: he was smoked.

919
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Speaker 26: Man.

920
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 2: I don't think he thought the ball was throwing to

921
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 2: at one point.

922
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Speaker 15: I think he because he kind of like slowed up

923
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 15: and then he tried to speak. It was too late.

924
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 15: It's like once he gets going, it's over for you.

925
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 3: Well yeah, but I mean yeah, McConkie didn't need This

926
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 3: wasn't like a late hand situation.

927
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had fallen.

928
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 3: It was he was kicking little rubber beads up in

929
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Speaker 3: his face as he ran easily into uh, into the

930
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Speaker 3: end zone.

931
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Speaker 2: Yeah it was. It was bad talkback machine.

932
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Speaker 8: In Michigan.

933
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Speaker 2: I do feel bad for the Wills.

934
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 25: I feel like they are stuck with some guys that

935
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 25: walked in and they integrawed well from the job and

936
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 25: they charmed them.

937
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 9: And here we are.

938
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 21: Could have had a guy like hard Bob.

939
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Speaker 1: We don't.

940
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 2: And I need to see more with these guys be hired.

941
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: Are it's going to just be another side chapter.

942
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,479
Speaker 17: We got to move on full vice.

943
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: Well here here's what I'll say, Ryan, and I want

944
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Speaker 2: your thoughts on this.

945
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Speaker 17: Ron.

946
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 3: I got a chill and I got to I think.

947
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 3: And people are free to do what they do. I

948
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 3: would never demand that anyone listens to me. I'm not

949
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 3: a point of authority. I am superior to nobody in

950
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 3: no ways. However, I got I gotta have some people

951
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 3: take a breath. If they're so willing and inclined. Let's

952
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 3: take a breath on the KO thing. Let's take a

953
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 3: breath on the coaching staff thing. They were outclassed and

954
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 3: now coach Tonight. All of that is totally valid. What

955
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 3: I will say is I am interested to see how

956
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 3: the head coach handles true adversity. Twenty twenty three, I

957
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 3: get it, Kirk Tears's Achilles at Lambeau and then Dobbs,

958
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: Dobbs Dobbs, and we got like Jaren Hall on the

959
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 3: field for a half again, that was ridiculous, Never should

960
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 3: have happened. And Nick Mullens throws it to the other

961
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 3: team as much as he throws it to his own.

962
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 3: So that's that's adversity in some ways certainly. But think

963
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 3: about this man, you you build twenty twenty five as

964
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 3: the toda. Here we are with the with the with

965
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 3: the the fable draft pick, and everything was pointed in

966
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 3: this direction. You do bring in the defensive talent that

967
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 3: looked terrific on paper. You believe that you beefed up

968
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 3: your own line and everything is falling apart. I am

969
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 3: interested to see how Kevin O'Connell handles what I believe

970
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 3: to be true adversity really for the first time in

971
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 3: his coaching career.

972
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean injuries are killing them right now.

973
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 15: Like c J Ham out back in out again, Fries

974
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 15: Kelly like everybody's just getting banged up, Brian O'Neill, Darris Saw.

975
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 3: Like Donovan Jay. I mean, the entire offensive line at

976
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 3: one point this season has been hurt. I want to

977
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 3: ask you about Dedris oh, and you're dumb. But that's

978
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 3: the adversity within the quarterback room alone. Then you talk

979
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 3: about the additional injuries on defense. Then you talk about

980
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 3: office because even though Ko is the offensive coordinator, still

981
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 3: his entire team. I think it was twelve guys that

982
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 3: counted today out or on ir. Yeah, that's a lot.

983
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 6: Now.

984
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 15: Now Devil's advocate because some people at Homer probably like wait,

985
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 15: Chargers seventeen and they still are finding ways to win games.

986
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 2: So but their quarterback they're legit. They got one thing

987
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 2: that's pretty good.

988
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 15: Quarterback is legit, which the Vikings need to be out

989
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 15: and lab McConkey and you got this run Like this

990
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 15: run game the fourth running back today had over one

991
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 15: hundred yards for them. The fourth are starting running back

992
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 15: at three yards three three yards. That's what's so craz

993
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 15: I don't know if you've ever seen that tweet NORDA

994
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 15: where they're like, would you be able to get five

995
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 15: yards in ten attempts at running back against an NFL

996
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 15: defense and an NFL offensive line? And everybody always try

997
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 15: to say, oh, yeah, that's that's a half a yard

998
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 15: per carry. Jordan Mason had four carries today in three

999
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 15: yard It's not easy to do. And he's a he's

1000
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 15: a he is a world class athlete. So is it

1001
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 15: that they just got their butts kicked? Or is it

1002
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 15: that the calls are not right? Is it that it's predictable?

1003
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 15: I mean, you can go down the line about what

1004
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 15: happened to night. At the end of the day, both

1005
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 15: sides of the ball lost this game.

1006
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 2: Yep, you know. It wasn't just the quarterback. It wasn't

1007
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 2: just the receivers.

1008
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 15: And honestly, I don't I can't even say the receivers

1009
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 15: is anything wrong until I watched the film, I don't.

1010
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 3: I think they're the one blameless group. No, I think

1011
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 3: receivers did nothing wrong. Yeah, Addison was terrific. Justin jefferis

1012
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 3: is there? How could you ever look down upon what TJ. Hockinson,

1013
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 3: you actually caught one.

1014
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 15: Yeah, but like Dallas Turner, the only thing Dallas Turner

1015
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 15: did tonight was dolphin hit the quarterback in the head.

1016
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, those dumb Like what was that? He had another

1017
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: penalty that was declined.

1018
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 15: Like if he was in college, he had been thrown

1019
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 15: out the game.

1020
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 2: For target targeting? Yeah, well what was that?

1021
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 15: Like it like, and again I watched Garnard and I

1022
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 15: don't know if you watched them. On a couple of

1023
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 15: those plays they were showing Gunnard. Yeah, first and secondary

1024
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 15: move off the line of scrimmage is nuts, Like he

1025
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,959
Speaker 15: continues to fight the hands of the line.

1026
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 2: He never just gets grabbed and stay out on the defense.

1027
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is working so hard, he's defeating double teams.

1028
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 3: Now he's freaking hurt with him it's the quarterback. And

1029
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 3: then still track back down the track and made the

1030
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 3: tackle seven yards down the field, freaking Tyler Battie in there.

1031
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 15: So yeah, it's just it's you can find some bright spots,

1032
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 15: but to blame this like oh the coach this, it's

1033
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 15: it's not that you can't blame that, Like, should Isaiah

1034
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 15: Rodgers have caught the ball?

1035
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 2: Yeah? Should Josh Mattel's he did catch it. Should the

1036
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 2: rest stop cheating? Yes?

1037
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 9: Should should? Where's the cash Ftel press conference on that.

1038
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 9: Terry Rozure was at this game. Terry was like, Hey,

1039
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 9: look man, I'm in deep I'm in deep water. I

1040
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 9: need this one.

1041
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 15: But I mean, it's just it's it's when you look

1042
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 15: at the way it played itself out, like there's so

1043
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 15: many things that like Josh Mantels is like, it's not

1044
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 15: my fault. I shouldn't be doing this, Or how come

1045
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 15: you don't have a faster cornerback or safe in the

1046
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 15: game to watch the quarterback?

1047
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 3: How about the second straight game Mattel is getting caught.

1048
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 3: I mean it was it was aj Brown last week.

1049
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 3: And then it's that second chance because this pass rush

1050
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 3: is so impotent right now, Herbert's just able to bounce.

1051
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 15: Around it gain You're right, and Josh Hotel has had

1052
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 15: him on the first part of the coverage but not

1053
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 15: sing and then he got the run back the other way,

1054
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 15: And it's just it's not, like I said, it's not

1055
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 15: his fault that they're not getting to the quarterback. Yeah,

1056
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 15: you know, and again I think Grenard's trying all he can,

1057
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 15: but he needs vang ginkle like he does.

1058
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 2: He needs vang ginkole over there. And that's I mean.

1059
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 3: I saw this text and I'm glad you brought up

1060
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 3: Turner because it was just nonsensical what happened on the

1061
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 3: field with the with the rough and the passer. But

1062
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 3: I see the text feels like it's another massive myss

1063
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 3: by our GM. And I've always kind of said it,

1064
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 3: it's like we're we're midstream right now, like this ain't

1065
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 3: the time to take the GM deep. This ain't the

1066
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,919
Speaker 3: time to start. But keeps going like this, It's gonna

1067
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,919
Speaker 3: be time. Yeah, Dallas Turner has to watch Grenard more.

1068
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 3: The criticism of that texture and those that look at

1069
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 3: this when you talk about the equity involved in the

1070
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 3: acquisition of the pick and all of those things and

1071
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 3: what's working and what's not working, those arguments are very valid.

1072
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. Here's what we should do.

1073
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 3: Because we still got full phone lines, got a bunch

1074
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 3: of talkbacks at this point, We're going to say good

1075
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 3: night to the Vikings Audio Network. Next time you hear

1076
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 3: from us is going to be eleven am a week

1077
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 3: from Sunday, and it is the Minnesota Vikings at the

1078
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 3: Detroit Lines. Who's going to play quarterback? We got a

1079
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 3: full week, thankfully to try and figure that one out.

1080
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 3: But it's a nooner at Ford Field and the Vikings

1081
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 3: at three and four are going to facing the face

1082
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 3: the kiddies who I believe will be fresh off the

1083
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 3: buy with Gibbs and Golf and Montgomery and I'm and

1084
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 3: Roz Saint Brown and Laporida and Aiden Hutchinson. But thank

1085
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 3: you so much for listening to fan Line. You can

1086
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1087
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1088
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 3: The Fan. The Vikings lose thirty seven to ten to

1089
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 3: the Los Angeles Chargers. We'll be live and local with

1090
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 3: the power trip from Vegas at five thirty nine to noon.

1091
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 3: I'll be in for PA commiserating Sat Montage and all

1092
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1093
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Speaker 1: Ron Johnson and KFA NS Eric Nordquist.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to Vikings fan Line.

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Speaker 3: Those of you who are listening on the greater Vikings

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Speaker 3: Audio Network, Thanks for jumping over to the flagship one

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Speaker 3: hundred point three FM the fan and all of you

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Speaker 3: listening via the free iHeartRadio app. Thirty seven to ten

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Speaker 3: the final at SOFI, the Vikings lose to the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: Outclassed and out coached every step of the way. The

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Speaker 3: Minnesota Vikings defense gives up more than four hundred yards.

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Speaker 3: Nice little balanced attack by the Chargers this evening with

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Speaker 3: more than two hundred yards on the ground. Kamani Vidal

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Speaker 3: I doubted him while he was part of a rushing

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Speaker 3: effort with two o seven. Herbert himself sixty two on

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Speaker 3: the ground, but two twenty seven through the air, three tds,

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Speaker 3: one pick to Mittellis and a buck twenty two passer

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Speaker 3: rating lad McConkey, Ronde, Gadsden the second and Trey Harris

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Speaker 3: all finding their way into the end zone with passing tds.

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Speaker 3: It was brutal tonight, ladies and gentlemen. And let's jump

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Speaker 3: to some talkbacks and some phone calls. Eight hundred three

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Speaker 3: two zero five three two six talkback machine free, iHeartRadio apps,

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Speaker 3: good to go six four six eight six if you

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Speaker 3: want to send a text. And we'll start with Ed

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Speaker 3: in North Minneapolis. Ed, Welcome to Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 29: Hey, guys, how you doing? A lifelong Vikings fan? I

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Speaker 29: love him, I support him. I'll never give up. You know,

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Speaker 29: we're in the playoffs until we're physically eliminated.

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Speaker 21: But my question for you guys is.

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Speaker 29: Flow seemed to show an open middle to the Chargers

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Speaker 29: tonight and they just shredded us with running the ball.

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Speaker 29: Herbert So that and moving forward. I totally believe in

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Speaker 29: koc I think he's a very good coach. He's shown

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Speaker 29: that with the two big seasons where we've had wins

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Speaker 29: too clearly we are not the same team when we

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Speaker 29: are ahead and game, then you know flows defense tends

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Speaker 29: to you know, you could really get after the quarterback.

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Speaker 29: But I think moving forward, it's on it's on Quacy.

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Speaker 29: We have not addressed the line until this past offseason,

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Speaker 29: but now we're at the point where we got so

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Speaker 29: many injuries. I'm worried about our guy at center. I mean,

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Speaker 29: I'm more worried about his life moving forward than whether

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Speaker 29: he'll play football for us. So just need to hear

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Speaker 29: what you guys think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate it. Ravaged by injuries. Ryan Kelly on

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Speaker 3: I are hard to say if he'd even return this season.

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Speaker 3: We'll see what those concussions. Michael Jurgens and and Blake Brandell,

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Speaker 3: the other options hasn't looked great save for that that

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Speaker 3: debut performance in London by mister Brandell. Yeah, Christian Darisaw

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Speaker 3: who couldn't go, I do want to address right out

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Speaker 3: of the gate. His first question was about just I mean,

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Speaker 3: it was open all night. We've talked about this before,

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Speaker 3: just open all night, whether it was Dontel in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty two, and we've seen it in different stages where

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Speaker 3: it's you know, last week it was Eric Wilson taking

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Speaker 3: the cheese on the front end towards a Goddard streaking

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Speaker 3: across the middle. Meanwhile, he's leaving Devonte Smith a ton

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Speaker 3: of room behind him for those mid range games and

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Speaker 3: a career day it was for Devonte Smith. Anything you're seeing,

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Speaker 3: specifically from a coverage perspective, that is troubling to you.

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Speaker 15: So I've talked to Brian Flores about this before, and

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Speaker 15: the dvs do have the opportunity to kind of pick

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Speaker 15: their own coverage.

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Speaker 2: And when I say that, like he gives them the base.

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Speaker 15: So if it's cover two, they can within emotion because

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Speaker 15: you know when I did the numbers on cars on

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Speaker 15: Justin Herbert on third down, specifically, if you look at

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Speaker 15: the amount of times he's shift in motion leading ump

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Speaker 15: to this game, it was sixty seven out of eighty

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Speaker 15: five times, so eighty percent of the time he's gonna

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Speaker 15: shift or motion his guys. So he does that one

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Speaker 15: to identify what the coverage is, and then he wants

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Speaker 15: to be able to ignite a change within because he'll

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Speaker 15: move that running back and that.

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Speaker 3: Changes the whole thing. You'll see him moving from the

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Speaker 3: right to the left. Now he's changed it.

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Speaker 15: So he's changed either the protection or he knows somebody's blitzing,

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Speaker 15: or he's trying to figure out, Okay, I want you

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Speaker 15: to be hot, going to the left, not to the

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Speaker 15: right anymore. And then he wants to manipulate, and that's

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Speaker 15: what he does. And so he was manipulating the middle

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Speaker 15: of the field. I don't know if whatever he was

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Speaker 15: doing he understood exactly what Brian Floores wanted. It made

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Speaker 15: no sense not to just go basic, like, don't move

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Speaker 15: it all. We're gonna play cover two. Let's play Tampa two.

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Speaker 15: Let's play Tampa two. Spy like, keep it basic so

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Speaker 15: that justin Herbert can't figure it out. When you start

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Speaker 15: running and crossing the field and your cornerback goes back

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Speaker 15: to safety, your safety comes down in the box, your

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Speaker 15: other linebacker goes out and plays corner. It looks cool,

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Speaker 15: it sounds cool, but it doesn't work when nobody's watching

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Speaker 15: the quarterback anymore because they're running full speed to get

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Speaker 15: to their spot. But if I can just stand there

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Speaker 15: and stare at the quarterback and then to the hook,

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Speaker 15: I can see that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait, we're kind of covered.

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Speaker 15: And now you got to have that internal clock, like

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Speaker 15: I even Paced one time. I don't know if you

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Speaker 15: saw it, the one run he had. I even Paced

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Speaker 15: went and touched the receiver on the hook, like you

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Speaker 15: don't have to touch him when the ball comes, just

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Speaker 15: knock it down. He like went and touched him like to.

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Speaker 2: Make sure, like okay, I got it, tag you're it,

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Speaker 2: Like why.

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Speaker 15: Are you touching him? Leave him? Like stay in your spot.

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Speaker 15: If he throws it, dive and knock it down. If not,

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Speaker 15: be close enough and have your eyes on the quarterback

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Speaker 15: to be able to chase. And that maybe is why

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Speaker 15: I even Paced didn't play last week. There's something fundamentally

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Speaker 15: wrong with him when he's dropping back to pass. And

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Speaker 15: I don't know if it's too much information. I don't

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Speaker 15: know if that's what he's told to do, like hey,

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Speaker 15: go touch the guy running the hook. You don't have

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Speaker 15: to touch the guy running the hook. So a lot

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Speaker 15: of that to me is concerning to be like why

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Speaker 15: is the middle of the field wide open?

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Speaker 2: Why is a quarterback just able to.

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Speaker 15: Not once, not twice, not thrice, not four times or

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Speaker 15: whole I can't say, ohle bunch of time, like you

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Speaker 15: don't know if you remember that from my life and

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Speaker 15: kids if you guys haven't seen that episode, it's awesome.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 15: He came out on a horse named Cecilees. But anyway,

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Speaker 15: you know, by the way.

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Speaker 3: I saw a urinal advertisement a few days ago. Cat Williams,

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Speaker 3: I believe he's in town tomorrow night.

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Speaker 2: Oh you were at the urinal. Yeah, I thought you

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Speaker 2: saw advertisement selling urinals.

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Speaker 3: There was a urinal advertisement when you were using the

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Speaker 3: bathroom some day.

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Speaker 15: You were just staring at Kat Williams while you were

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Speaker 15: holding yourself. I was, I think he's gonna be in

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Speaker 15: to tomorrow. How about that cool news. Look, we went

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Speaker 15: to the Catias last time.

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Speaker 3: I actually with Keithan mccardial funny, you know, funny story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he is funny.

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Speaker 15: But when you look at that right, that situation of

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Speaker 15: seven times he was able to just run up the

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Speaker 15: middle and get he was almost nine yards of carry

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Speaker 15: for the quarterback. Nine yards of carry and he's not

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Speaker 15: a running quarterback. There's something off there.

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Speaker 2: Yep, I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 3: Chandler and Sue Falls Chandler, Welcome to Vikings fan Line.

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Speaker 26: Hey guys, Well, first of all, I don't know what

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Speaker 26: that say in earlier was talking about Brian O'Neal, because

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Speaker 26: last time I checked, I don't think he was in

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Speaker 26: the starting lineup. But I do want to talk about

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Speaker 26: the offensive line. Yeah, Ron, you know, I'm not an

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Speaker 26: All twenty two kind of guy. I don't you know,

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Speaker 26: have that access or pay for that. But is it

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Speaker 26: a physicality thing that this offensive line, even the defensive

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Speaker 26: line can get a push or anything up front? Or

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Speaker 26: is it scheme? Like what is it the quarterback now

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Speaker 26: getting the ball out of the hands fast enough? It

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Speaker 26: just feels like a year after year we're getting you know,

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Speaker 26: bullied around up front, and that's just been kent of

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Speaker 26: the same scene over and over again. I mean, the

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Speaker 26: worst thing comes the worst. You know, Kevin O'Connell can

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Speaker 26: get busted tomorrow for playing poker with the mob. I

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Speaker 26: don't know, but I'll hang up in Lesson.

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Speaker 3: I got a big shot Chaulnsey Bill upside of this man,

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Speaker 3: you know, lack of It's interesting you got Chandler and

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Speaker 3: Sue Falls talking about the physicality and then I saw

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Speaker 3: this Cordell in Sue Falls. Different phone numbers so I

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Speaker 3: can confirm different people's Cordero Patterson just Cordell the worst.

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Speaker 3: This is way he says, the worst tackling exhibition of

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Speaker 3: the season by far, Herbert is not Lamar was able

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Speaker 3: to evade and rush with ease. Looked like Bobby Douglas

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Speaker 3: when he decided to run. You could have had one

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Speaker 3: hundred yards rushing if you wanted.

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Speaker 2: Too bad.

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Speaker 3: We weren't playing flag football because that would have helped.

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Speaker 3: Whether it's the physicality and the on line physicality and

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Speaker 3: the tackling game, and the physicality specifically in the tackling

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Speaker 3: is a theme that you and I have kind of

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Speaker 3: that topic. We've broached a few times this year, but

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Speaker 3: certainly seeing it up front with the Minnesota Moving company

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Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm not going to blame the way the quarterback

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Speaker 15: is being treated, but I have to blame a little bit.

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Speaker 15: Like if you watch the way some of these guys

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Speaker 15: run a quarterbacks, it's not reckless abandoned anymore.

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Speaker 2: They're so worried about hitting the quarterback too hard.

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Speaker 15: I don't know if you saw that when the quarterback

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Speaker 15: just got hit in the pocket, wasn't watching that The

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Speaker 15: blitz was coming from the ba bump from behind and

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Speaker 15: they threw a flag because he hit him too hard?

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Speaker 2: Which game was that?

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Speaker 15: I forget it was either Aaron Rodgers or somebody. I

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Speaker 15: have to go back and look if you just probably

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Speaker 15: google it, Like Egregious rough In the passer okay, had

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Speaker 15: the ball. We've seen a few of them, had the

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Speaker 15: ball in his hand, did not fall on him, hit

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Speaker 15: him just super hard in the back, and then the

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Speaker 15: the linebacker fell off to the right, quarterback fell on

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Speaker 15: his face.

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Speaker 2: They threw a flag, right, what are we doing?

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Speaker 7: So?

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Speaker 15: And I'm not saying that's the reason why they're missing

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Speaker 15: these tackles. I'm just saying, like the one where Justin

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Speaker 15: Herbert ran and kind of fell forward. Yeah, back in

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Speaker 15: the day, you could have went face forward to and

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Speaker 15: put his head into the turf. We saw if Alice

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Speaker 15: Turner wasn't worried about that. You can't do that anymore.

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Speaker 15: So now you gotta like Josh mun Tellens was like,

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Speaker 15: should I hit him? Is he gonna slide? Is he

1307
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 15: gonna Like if quarterbacks are not gonna slide every time,

1308
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 15: and we're gonna treat them like that, you have to

1309
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 15: be able to tee off on a quarterback once he

1310
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 15: starts running. I'm not again, I'm not blaming that. X

1311
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 15: don't don't tweet at me and say, oh, you're make

1312
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 15: an excuse me. That's definitely not why they were missing tackles.

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Speaker 3: But I get what you're saying on that. But Kamani Vidal,

1314
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 3: Yeah that's bad.

1315
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was missing. He was dragging people.

1316
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 3: It looked like Barry Sanders at once. I'll give you

1317
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 3: there was one run I think he went for like eighteen.

1318
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 3: I'll give Jalen Redmand some grace because he had one

1319
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 3: arm on Vidal and he was also like trying to

1320
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 3: break off and get off an old lineman at the

1321
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 3: same time. But even I mean hit man, dude, Like

1322
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 3: I mean these guys, he got carried for five yards.

1323
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 3: The tackling is brutal at times as soon as slippery.

1324
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Speaker 2: It is vedala soon.

1325
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 3: I guess I should be saying that in an affectionate manner,

1326
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 3: given how slick he was, There's no doubt about that,

1327
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 3: and he was slick for a buck seventeen on the ground.

1328
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 3: Good for Vidal, best game of his career, I think,

1329
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 3: or no, he had a good game a couple of

1330
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 3: weeks ago. But hardball was just committed to it. Let's

1331
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 3: play something positive and then pause.

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Speaker 19: Hey, Nordo, we got some positive vibes here. Okay, let's

1333
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 19: not lose faith on the Vikings. Yes, we look very bad,

1334
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 19: but at the end of the day, we get our

1335
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Speaker 19: boy McCarthy back next week.

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Speaker 2: J I don't know.

1337
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 19: I have a good feeling. I don't know if we're

1338
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 19: going to beat the Lions, but I think we'll be

1339
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 19: able to come out. The offensive line was not horrible.

1340
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,959
Speaker 2: I think Wentz holds the ball way way too long.

1341
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 7: Agreed.

1342
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 19: I give Wentz props though I think he knew it

1343
01:04:58,400 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 19: was his last game and give everything he kill.

1344
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:02,919
Speaker 16: We just weren't good enough onto the next one.

1345
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 19: Skull Vikes.

1346
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you know, when we wake up tomorrow, we'll

1347
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 3: be a little bit tired, but we've got to get

1348
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 3: the Friday started. Maybe there there is by the time

1349
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 3: we can maybe maybe not tomorrow, but we turn this

1350
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 3: over to Monday and we start thinking we will get

1351
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:19,479
Speaker 3: to see JJ McCarthy again.

1352
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 2: The team's three and four. The sun that come out tomorrow.

1353
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 3: You you laid it, I absolutely will, and we had

1354
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 3: we had Mark earlier. I mean, it's all about real life,

1355
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 3: not the frivolity of sports. But it's about real life.

1356
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 3: Hug your wife and kids. Yeah, gentlemen. But uh, but

1357
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 3: to that end by monday, if are you able to

1358
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 3: do it at some point where you want you want

1359
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 3: the team.

1360
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 2: To win games?

1361
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Speaker 3: Okay, three and four seasons not over, certainly, but can

1362
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 3: you can you turn that page where you start to

1363
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 3: kind of think.

1364
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 2: Well, win or lose.

1365
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 3: There is a great opportunity here to finally, hopefully just

1366
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 3: get to see what the kid has.

1367
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 2: Can can you do that? Or is it still three

1368
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 2: and four? It's like you go out.

1369
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 3: And and JJ even has just you know, let's say

1370
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Speaker 3: it makes his his second debut of the year. I

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01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 3: suppose against the kiddies, and you lose that game.

1372
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Speaker 2: You're three and five. That's a bad game to come

1373
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:09,959
Speaker 2: back to. It's gonna be a tough game.

1374
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Speaker 15: It's a bag. I mean, have you seen I mean

1375
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 15: you've seen it. He's set offense is just that run game.

1376
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Speaker 29: Dude.

1377
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Speaker 3: I thought I thought they'd regress. Man, they have not regressed.

1378
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 3: They regrets with the first game. It took the new

1379
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 3: coordinator one game one to figure it out and then

1380
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 3: he realized, wait a minute, I got these two running backs.

1381
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 2: What am I doing? Did you see Gibbs on the seventy.

1382
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 15: Antoine Winfield almost got the hamstring. He was seven yards

1383
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 15: ahead of Gibbs, and Gibbs still beat him.

1384
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 2: On the ankle.

1385
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 3: If we if we tackle next week like we did tonight,

1386
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 3: like we did against Philly, like we've done.

1387
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Speaker 15: I mean nothing against Harrison Smith and and those none

1388
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 15: of those guys have that speed.

1389
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 2: They're not going to keep up with Gibbs.

1390
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 15: And Gibbs is like and he's only having to touch

1391
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 15: the ball twelve to fifteen times to get that.

1392
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 2: All right. See, that's the thing we just turned positive

1393
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 2: vibes into now. So I'm just saying, here's the thing.

1394
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 15: So if Jason McCarthy is saying, let's go, I want

1395
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 15: to Jay McCarthy's in that fourteen play drive we just

1396
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 15: saw from the other team, right, because you watch film,

1397
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 15: everybody watching you watch your opponent as well, that's what

1398
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 15: they need to do. Hardball clearly has a plan with Herbert.

1399
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 15: You have to do that, which is Jason McCarthy, Well,

1400
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 15: hopefully he can run with that ankle. Jason McCarthy can run,

1401
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 15: So give him that trigger. Hey, one one thousand, two,

1402
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 15: one thousand, We all did it as a kid. Go yeah,

1403
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 15: one one thousand, two, one thousand, Nope, go like Carson Wentz.

1404
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 15: And I think one of the callers said earlier we

1405
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 15: didn't hit on that he does hold the ball too long.

1406
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 15: He does hold the ball like he never pulls it

1407
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 15: down and just takes It's always like he right, he's

1408
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 15: backing himself into sacks.

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01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 3: That's that's why I didn't want to completely bleep on

1410
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 3: the O line because Carson Wentz is he has to

1411
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 3: own some of his own aims.

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01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 15: Who oh, No, I was watching the Chargers game because

1414
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,479
Speaker 15: I watched literally I watched all seven Chargers games because

1415
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 15: I cataloged week one through seven how many times they

1416
01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 15: motioned and shift on third.

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01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I was kind of crazy obsessed. I

1418
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 2: am obsessed.

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01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 15: I was because I was just wanting to see And

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Speaker 15: when I'm listening to Tom Brady, who was Tom Brady

1421
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 15: did one of their games and literally justin Herbert almost

1422
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 15: took a sack. He just threw the ball at the

1423
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Speaker 15: foot of the receiver. And Tom Brady said, that's the

1424
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 15: smartest play he made today. Yes, because instead of taking

1425
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 15: the sack, you throw it to receivers not intentional ground,

1426
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 15: and you don't put it in harm's way and you

1427
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 15: move on to third down and four versus third down

1428
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 15: and sixteen. And that's the one thing Carson Wentz doesn't do,

1429
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,600
Speaker 15: like he doesn't have a quick trigger to say, I

1430
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 15: gotta get rid of the ball.

1431
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 2: Well, no, he tried, got to go, he tried. He

1432
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 2: tried to do that on that intentional grounding, that'll be.

1433
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:36,799
Speaker 15: But even the one where he almost threw a freaking

1434
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 15: uh well, thank god it was his knee was down

1435
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 15: and it would have been a pass. Like, what are

1436
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 15: you doing? Just throwing at his feet right away? He's

1437
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 15: standing right there. Why are you trying to go forward?

1438
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,839
Speaker 15: And you can't run fast anymore? You can't run anymore.

1439
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 15: But positive vibes.

1440
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 3: We might get to see JJ McCarthy next week. Can

1441
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 3: I do I do dig that? Let's pause segment or

1442
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 3: two remaining a fan line including our local Chevy Dealers

1443
01:08:58,120 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 3: drive of the game.

1444
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 2: Very excited for that when we return.

1445
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 3: It's Vikings fan line on the fan and the fan

1446
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 3: radio network the fan.

1447
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 18: Hey Spence here in Los Angeles.

1448
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 2: Two things.

1449
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 3: One person went seems to double pump a lot, as

1450
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 3: well as.

1451
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 2: Some McCarthy doing this too.

1452
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 22: Receivers just not open or are they just not seeing them?

1453
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 2: Two.

1454
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 21: Can you let Chris Hockey know that traffic.

1455
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 18: Ain't moving and a probly walked to Vegas faster than

1456
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 18: I can pick him up.

1457
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 21: All right, thanks a lot of guys, love what you do.

1458
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 2: Bye, Hey, cheers to use Spence.

1459
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 3: Maybe is Spence actually the guy that's supposed to give

1460
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 3: him a ride?

1461
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,719
Speaker 2: Is Hockey? You driving the Vegas les? Yeah?

1462
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 3: So so Power Trips in Los Angeles saw that tweet

1463
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 3: debt and I think I think after the game it's

1464
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 3: so far that he's jumping in somebody's car, is like

1465
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 3: three and a half hours the Vegas four ish?

1466
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 17: Maybe?

1467
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, something like that. I don't know the Power Trip.

1468
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,719
Speaker 3: We do have an actor friend named Spencer that lives

1469
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 3: out there in LA.

1470
01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 2: So that might have been that might have been a

1471
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 2: legit guy. What if that's it? So that's the Spence.

1472
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 3: That might be the Spences giving I didn't know he

1473
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 3: was giving Hawk Haradh. Okay, well, hey, no, that's super cool.

1474
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 3: Thanks for listening, calling in Spence. I appreciate the talkback.

1475
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:12,759
Speaker 3: More talkbacks.

1476
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 2: Let's do this.

1477
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 30: Hey, guys, this is Scott. It's becoming clear. I guess

1478
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 30: at this point in the season that the composition of

1479
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 30: the roster and the plan for this year was something

1480
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,640
Speaker 30: far beyond a pipe dream.

1481
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 2: And I know.

1482
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 30: JJ McCarthy's gonna be starting, I would think, so I

1483
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 30: fear for him. I'm not sold he's the guy, but

1484
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 30: he is going to get demolished behind this offensive line.

1485
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:37,759
Speaker 30: He probably won't last the season.

1486
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 2: Geez Okay, well that's that's very morbid and pessimistic. Who

1487
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 2: hurt you?

1488
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 3: But he has to, I mean well in fairness though

1489
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 3: the offensive line has its issues. I was talking with

1490
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 3: Ron during the break, so I'll just kind of put

1491
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 3: this out on the air with you, just kind of

1492
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 3: trying to figure out this derisol thing. And it's very concerning, man.

1493
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 3: I mean, he recovers from the injury, not quite ready

1494
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 3: to go. We one totally get it, and you know

1495
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 3: it was a bad injury as it was right and

1496
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 3: it was actually at so far about a year ago.

1497
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 3: And but but he makes his way back and it's

1498
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 3: a pitch count happy to have him back. Coach is

1499
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 3: going to stick to the plan. We need a win

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01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 3: in London against the Browns. They actually pull Christian Dearosaw

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01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 3: and they stick to the plan and they put justin

1502
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,640
Speaker 3: school in. He performs against Miles Garrett for a player too,

1503
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 3: we find our way to victory going to the by

1504
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 3: plays all the snaps against Philly, and so just kind

1505
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 3: of the idea is is whatever recovery work can be

1506
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 3: done during the by, we're going to have a full

1507
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 3: force Christian darosaw out of the break. You get it.

1508
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 3: And then there's the is it even a regression? But

1509
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 3: now is it fully healthy? Is it a mental thing?

1510
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,480
Speaker 3: And you know what is you know from a spectrum

1511
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 3: of pain right like I don't know if they I

1512
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 3: don't go to the hospital the doctor much. But you

1513
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 3: got like those little pain charts right like point to

1514
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 3: the smiley face zero to ten in terms of what

1515
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 3: your pain level. Is it pain from an injury versus

1516
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 3: paying from soreness as you continue to rebuild the strength

1517
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 3: around that knee. Correct, But Darra saw not being able

1518
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 3: to make the dance. You think if it was a

1519
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 3: Sunday game, maybe he plays the whole game. I'm less

1520
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 3: optimistic in that regard than you are. It's just it

1521
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 3: is kind of concerning with the in and out nature.

1522
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 3: If we are looking at finding continuity in the offensive line,

1523
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 3: if justin School is going to be the guy on

1524
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 3: the left for eighty percent of the game.

1525
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 2: I need justin school going.

1526
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 3: Into the game thinking he's going to be the guy

1527
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 3: on the left for the entire game, you know what

1528
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 3: I mean? And so playing these will I won't die games.

1529
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,600
Speaker 3: I don't think that's good and it just kind of

1530
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 3: worries me a bit. Yeah, I mean, but you saw

1531
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 3: the Chargers were in the same bit.

1532
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 15: You know, they had a lot of injured you know,

1533
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 15: linemen coming to this game, and they tried to go

1534
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 15: out there too. One of their guys went out. He

1535
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 15: did the same thing on the sideline. Can you go

1536
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 15: back in? And he was making that grimace in face too,

1537
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 15: like I don't think I can go back, Like it's

1538
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 15: only so much you can push a player, you know before,

1539
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 15: Like are you negligent if you send him out there

1540
01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 15: and then he gets hurt even worse?

1541
01:12:58,960 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 2: Like are people pissed off?

1542
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 17: Is now?

1543
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 15: Christ and Derris is out for There's a season they

1544
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 15: lost thirty seven to ten anyway, with them in or out.

1545
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 15: You have to trust that the players doing their best

1546
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 15: to try to get back on the field, and then

1547
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 15: the trainers are you know, doing everything they can and

1548
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 15: make sure he's mentally ready to go. But again I

1549
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:15,679
Speaker 15: think it's a short week. That's like because even coming

1550
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:19,759
Speaker 15: off both their knees, him and O'Neil, they're swelling. That's involved,

1551
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 15: and so you'll see them wearing like a leg sleeve

1552
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 15: all week, you know, to kind of get the swelling out,

1553
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,799
Speaker 15: push it down towards the ankle and an icy ankle

1554
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 15: and iced the leg and blah blah. So I think

1555
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 15: that's part of the flight, you know, the flight out there,

1556
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 15: so short week, no rest flight out to LA long

1557
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 15: flight and then you got to get off and get

1558
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 15: the swelling out of your knee.

1559
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 2: I think that's part of it too.

1560
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 15: That's that's swelling is less, it's more sorry, it's more

1561
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 15: of the pain than it is the actual knee. It's

1562
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 15: just it makes it tight, it makes it feel like

1563
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 15: you can't move as well.

1564
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 2: So that's that's part of it.

1565
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 3: What we're gonna do now and then we're gonna pause

1566
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 3: their final segment. I got another talk back and then

1567
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 3: we'll put a rap on this thing. Happy Friday morning

1568
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 3: to all of you, and thanks for hanging out with us.

1569
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,799
Speaker 3: Thirty seven to ten to the final. Our local Chevy dealers.

1570
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 3: We love our local Chevy dealers. And now it is

1571
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 3: time for our local Chevy dealers drive of the game.

1572
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 2: That sounded like this first.

1573
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 17: Two goal from the five, out of the shotgun wentz Picks,

1574
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 17: a handoff closed to.

1575
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,839
Speaker 25: The end zone, caught touchdown, Minnesota Vikings.

1576
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 2: It's Jordan Addison. The Vikings perfect in the red zone tonight.

1577
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 12: Ron.

1578
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 3: They were one of six a week ago. That's a problem.

1579
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 3: They were perfect in the red zone tonight. The problem

1580
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 3: is that was their only time in the red zone.

1581
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 3: That is your local Chevy dealer's drive of the game.

1582
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 3: Who was a doozy? It was a six play, twenty

1583
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 3: six yard drive. Ron, Who two and two minutes and

1584
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 3: twenty two seconds, six plays twenty six yards. I must

1585
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 3: remind people it was eighted I believe by at least

1586
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 3: two penalties, potentially one on the field goal, and then

1587
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,679
Speaker 3: I think there was an illegal contact on a fourth

1588
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,599
Speaker 3: and goal play that extended it getting the touchdown on

1589
01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 3: the ensuing first down from the four.

1590
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 2: Oh.

1591
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 3: But thank you to our local Chevy dealers. They're no joke.

1592
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 3: We love our local Chevy dealers. That was their drive

1593
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 3: of the game. I just apologize to our local Chevy dealers.

1594
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 3: I can't offer a better drive because our offense was

1595
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 3: a disastrous mess this evening. But thirty seven to ten,

1596
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 3: that all plays into it. That's why the Chargers were

1597
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 3: absolutely better in every single freaking category. Head the ball

1598
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 3: for almost forty minutes tonight. That's got to change. Everything's

1599
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 3: got to be better. About ten days from now, when

1600
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 3: the team is in Detroit.

1601
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 2: We're going to.

1602
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 3: Pause one more time and put a rap on this

1603
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 3: thing as we do look ahead. It's Vikings fan line

1604
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 3: on the fan.

1605
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 31: Hey, this is Tony in Nashville. Hey, I agree with

1606
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:51,639
Speaker 31: the Broseberg comments. We too, would I find inexcusable. Are

1607
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:58,799
Speaker 31: the stupid penalties increase that penalty reach out, penalties on kickoffslujah?

1608
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:02,679
Speaker 31: Twelve men on the field. Yeah, those just show an

1609
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 31: undisciplined team, and that is blamed on the coaching score.

1610
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 2: Y'all score. Seasons not over.

1611
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,680
Speaker 3: But the team's three and four, and I mean just

1612
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 3: by far, just by every possible metric. The worst game

1613
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 3: of the season that we've watched from our favorite football

1614
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:23,480
Speaker 3: team took place earlier tonight at SOFI Stadium in Los Angeles,

1615
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 3: and the Chargers find their way to five and three,

1616
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:31,759
Speaker 3: and the Vikings now three and four lopsided thirty seven

1617
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 3: to ten, l twelve first downs total in the game

1618
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 3: that in comparison to the Chargers the twenty nine. I mean,

1619
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 3: just kind of running through some of these stats.

1620
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 14: Ron.

1621
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 3: As much as I love doing fan line with you, Ron,

1622
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:47,799
Speaker 3: sometimes I will say it's masochistic in a way where

1623
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 3: in some ways I enjoy the losses more in terms

1624
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 3: of just just doing fan line. I want the team

1625
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 3: to go undefeated and win every single game, but in

1626
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 3: terms of like doing fan line, sometimes the losses can

1627
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 3: be more entertaining because I definitely entertain it.

1628
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 2: I love the rooms man. I am one.

1629
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 3: I'm a forty year old child who loves his football team,

1630
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 3: and I just love whether it's the talkbacks or the texts,

1631
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 3: just hearing what the fan base is feeling. I mean,

1632
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 3: Brozman was seventy five percent completions today, but correct, are

1633
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 3: you give me a break? With the three of eleven

1634
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 3: on third down into the game, Chargers were fourth in

1635
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 3: the NFL in third down percentage. They were nine to

1636
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 3: thirteen tonight, so they're just playing the script.

1637
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:28,719
Speaker 2: Cool.

1638
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 3: Forty seven plays on offense for Kevin O'Connell's offense Okay,

1639
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 3: that's that's not enough compared to seventy How about a

1640
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 3: buck sixty four of total yards on offense? I mean,

1641
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 3: just wow, that's terrible compared to four hundred plus by

1642
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 3: the Chargers. What else do we got eight more penalties tonight?

1643
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 3: That's cool, super undisciplined. The talkbacker hit it special teams

1644
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 3: penalties are ridiculous and unacceptable. We got Dallas Turner launching

1645
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 3: his head at somebody. He left the freaking turf you

1646
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 3: mentioned it. If this was a college that would have

1647
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 3: been reviewed, he would have been kicked out of the game.

1648
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 2: You're gone one that just I mean, this is a

1649
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 2: kick in the pants. Uh.

1650
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 3: They had the ball for nearly forty minutes, Ron, but

1651
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 3: we didn't lose the turnover battle.

1652
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 2: Silver Linings, what what.

1653
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 3: Are you you're thinking about? Into the baby by that

1654
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 3: that's how we'll end it. What do you what are

1655
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 3: you thinking about? Into the baby by out of the

1656
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 3: bye on Monday.

1657
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 2: And uh and push forward towards the Detroit game.

1658
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 15: Well, like you said, the third down bit like the

1659
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 15: third one, So the third and the first one third

1660
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 15: I think it was like third and eight or something.

1661
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 15: Justin Jefferson catches the deep ball sixteen yards yep or

1662
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 15: deep deep ish very next third down, third one, they

1663
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 15: throw the ball again and don't get it. So it's

1664
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 15: it's like you gotta you gotta take the easy like

1665
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 15: the nerdy stat would be like you're going to run

1666
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 15: the ball on third and one, knowing I'm going to

1667
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 15: run the ball on fourth and one, like I'm gonna push,

1668
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 15: push this thing till.

1669
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 2: I can't do it anymore. And that's what I'm thinking.

1670
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 15: I'm like, how can the Minnesota Vikings take these third

1671
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 15: down plays like you talked about and actually try to

1672
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 15: convert like it just does it? Like I'm looking at

1673
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 15: this third because I have the replays up now, and

1674
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 15: this third and eleven bit, I think that's the Carson

1675
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 15: Wentz like my arm is about to die or one

1676
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:18,799
Speaker 15: of them because his shoulder got his jersey got pulled

1677
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 15: up or something in the pocket. But you know, second

1678
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 15: and eleven, same thing, play action.

1679
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 2: Pump pump.

1680
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 15: He didn't throw the ball. He comes out of it,

1681
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 15: and then he's just looking around like we're gonna throw

1682
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 15: the ball, and then he almost throws it to the

1683
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 15: feet of Jordan Natiseny.

1684
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 2: Like I'm just watching the play back over again.

1685
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 1: Yep.

1686
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 2: I just don't understand how you miss Jordan.

1687
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:38,600
Speaker 15: Like in that instance right there, justin Herbert throws an

1688
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,719
Speaker 15: absolute strike and hits Jordanadsen in the chest. Carson Wentz

1689
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 15: throws it into the dirt. He's grimacing now. I'm looking

1690
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 15: at his face. His arm clearly is hurting now because

1691
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 15: you can see that arm got grabbed. So this is

1692
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 15: when it started. It started on this second and eleven

1693
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:54,600
Speaker 15: and Khalil Mack just absolutely blew through justin school.

1694
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 3: Like I know, dude, It's just like I just got

1695
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 3: this text and just appreciate again, appreciate everybody.

1696
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 2: Just Nordo period.

1697
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,759
Speaker 3: You script the first play and Wentz damn near throws

1698
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 3: the lateral to Aaron Jones at.

1699
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 2: A swing pass.

1700
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 3: I amen, I was thinking the exact same thing when

1701
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 3: I saw that, Like, just you know, whether it's it's

1702
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 3: the script, just the inaccuracy that we saw a week ago,

1703
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 3: it crept in and maybe I you gotta be with

1704
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 3: me on this. The Carson Wentz experiment needs am I

1705
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:29,879
Speaker 3: Do you think I'm going too far.

1706
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 2: By saying it just needs to end? No, it does,

1707
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:33,679
Speaker 2: because it just needs to be done.

1708
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 3: And and and we're talking about JJ McCarthy and Max Brosmer.

1709
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 2: As your backup into the Detroit game.

1710
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 3: I just, I honestly believe that this this just needs

1711
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,719
Speaker 3: to end, and that is the humane way to treat

1712
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 3: Carson Wentz, by the way, who is having to peel

1713
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 3: himself off the turf. It just has to be over

1714
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 3: and thank you for your service, Carson.

1715
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 26: Uh.

1716
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 3: In some ways it feels like you were just the

1717
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 3: sacrificial lamb while we deal with the with the kid

1718
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 3: QB trying to find out how to stay healthy in

1719
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 3: the NFL.

1720
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 2: But my goodness, it just needs to add. And I'll

1721
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 2: show you this after like we get off, so you

1722
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 2: can understand what I'm about to say.

1723
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 15: The other thing, though, is the long developing plays on

1724
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 15: third and eleven.

1725
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 2: Throw a nine yard route, throw a ten yard route.

1726
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:22,520
Speaker 15: Let the receiver run and get you like lam McConkey

1727
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 15: yards after catch, Oh my goodness, right, like they're getting

1728
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 15: the ball quick in the habit to run the ball.

1729
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 15: The Vikings don't have a lot of unless it's just

1730
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 15: justin Jefferson making a ridiculous hall of flame type of

1731
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 15: play and you're like this dude just got fifty yards

1732
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 15: on a one yard throw.

1733
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 2: That's it.

1734
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 15: Like there's no plays built for them to just catch

1735
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 15: the ball on third and something. It's like, we always

1736
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 15: got to go to the sticks. We always got to

1737
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 15: make it long developing and look at the offensive line.

1738
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 15: Like when I show you this picture from the back

1739
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 15: angle of this offensive line nord of the en zone,

1740
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 15: the end zone, you're gonna be like, what are we doing?

1741
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 15: Like there's two linemen that are absolutely blocking nobody. They're

1742
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 15: just looking off to the right, and there's two D

1743
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 15: like three D lineman about to kill their quarterback and

1744
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 15: they're just looking off to the right watching TJ.

1745
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:05,679
Speaker 2: Howkinson run nowhere.

1746
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 15: And then the two receivers to the left, there's a

1747
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 15: it's cover two the middle of the field Nordoh yeh,

1748
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 15: I could have got open in the middle of the

1749
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:15,719
Speaker 15: field on this one.

1750
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 2: Well, you're a red zone.

1751
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 15: I don't understand why you're not running some type of

1752
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 15: quick underneath slant in the mid and then let the

1753
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 15: receiver is Jordan Addison at that Let Jordan Adison go

1754
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,839
Speaker 15: run and get you fifteen yards. So that's my takeaway

1755
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 15: from this man. It's just you gotta look at this

1756
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 15: and get and get better. Development plays in these situations.

1757
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 2: You're the best round. Thanks for doing this as you do.

1758
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,679
Speaker 3: I will see you a week from Sunday, hopefully after

1759
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:41,759
Speaker 3: and just I don't know someone.

1760
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 2: No, let's not even talk about wins or losses at

1761
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 2: that point. Vikings lost tonight thirty seven ten.

1762
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 3: They're three and four. Power Trip live from Vegas. A

1763
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 3: Chris Hockey I think he's in Save travels my brother

1764
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:57,680
Speaker 3: and have a blast there in the morning with the boys.

1765
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:00,120
Speaker 2: Nine to noon. Pa is going to join at at

1766
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:00,879
Speaker 2: eleven o'clock.

1767
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 3: I got Chad Greenway out of the gates at nine

1768
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 3: and we'll do some go for football conversation Ryan Burns

1769
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 3: around ten, but certainly heavy on the Purple tomorrow during

1770
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,640
Speaker 3: the feast. Thanks to Max, Thanks to Ron. Thank you

1771
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 3: for the calls, texts and talkbacks. The Vikings are three

1772
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:19,679
Speaker 3: and four. There will be more games. Will we get

1773
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 3: to see JJ McCarthy play next week? I think we

1774
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,639
Speaker 3: have to at some point. But thanks for hanging out

1775
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:28,759
Speaker 3: with us. It's been the fan radio network.

1776
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 2: Cheers