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Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's news radio Orror.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone to get my thanks to Christopher mutha

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Speaker 2: Boston Globe Travel editor who enjoyed that last hour. Sort

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Speaker 2: of our tribute to Saint Patrick's day here on Nightside.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot going on in the world even as

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Speaker 2: we speak, and it's sometimes tough to stay up with it.

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Speaker 2: We are now well into week three of the war

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Speaker 2: with Iran, and the US has tonight apparently has fired

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Speaker 2: multiple five thousand pound bombs deep penetrated bombs on hardened

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Speaker 2: Iranian missile sites along Iran's coastline near the Strait of Hormuz,

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Speaker 2: according to the US Central Command. Now that is a

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Speaker 2: message to Iran because obviously these were the hardened. These

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Speaker 2: were the hardened Iranian missile sites along their coastline near

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Speaker 2: the straits, the Strait of Hormeuse, which would allow them

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Speaker 2: to stop oil transports from passing through this narrow it's

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Speaker 2: a twenty mile at its narrowest, a twenty mile passageway

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Speaker 2: in which about twenty percent of the world's daily use

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Speaker 2: of oil passes. And again I'm reading some live updates

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Speaker 2: here from the Associated press. I want to make sure

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Speaker 2: that I give them credit. The Iranian anti ship cruise

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Speaker 2: missiles targeted at the sites post a risk to international

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Speaker 2: shipping in the Strait, according to Central Command. The US

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Speaker 2: announced the bombings hours after Trump said NATO and now

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Speaker 2: the Allies have rejected his calls to join a US

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Speaker 2: effort to secure the vital waterway. As I mentioned, twenty

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Speaker 2: percent of the global oil supply flows through the Strait

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Speaker 2: on a typical day, but it has been effectively closed

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Speaker 2: by Iran since the US and Israel began bombarding Iran

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Speaker 2: on February twenty eighth. So this assuming that President Trump

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Speaker 2: and Prime Minister Netan Yahoo do want to be done

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Speaker 2: with the Iranian regime. And I listened to a lot

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Speaker 2: of the commentators who are saying, well, they never laid

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Speaker 2: out a plan. Well, I think that you don't lay

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Speaker 2: out a plan. But I do think that they laid

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Speaker 2: out what their goal is, and their goal is to

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Speaker 2: make sure that Iran would never possess a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 2: I think that that goal probably has been very much accomplished. Again,

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Speaker 2: it's always difficult to never know. You never say never.

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Speaker 2: Could I guess Russia or China give run a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 2: I guess that's possible, but I don't think it's likely

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, and I don't think it would be

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Speaker 2: likely in the opinions of most people who would understand

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Speaker 2: the Middle East. This government for forty seven years has

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Speaker 2: been a rogue regime, and there's just no other way

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Speaker 2: to describe it. It is a theocracy. I mean, everybody

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Speaker 2: here in America seems to be concerned about the separation

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Speaker 2: of church and state. Well, we have a government that

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Speaker 2: certainly acknowledges the existence of a greater being. Again, something

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Speaker 2: that no one can prove nor disprove, actually, if you

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Speaker 2: think about it. But these were theocrats who decided to

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Speaker 2: take over nation, a huge nation of ninety million people.

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Speaker 2: They did. And one of the choke points that they

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Speaker 2: had and maybe they still have, it as the strait

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Speaker 2: of home news. Well, if these bombs are as described

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Speaker 2: by Associated Press, hit their targets, the straight of Home

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Speaker 2: News might be a lot safer to go through tomorrow

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Speaker 2: than it was yesterday. If you get my drift, we'll see.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Department of War is being accused of

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Speaker 2: having not thought out this this war. I think they

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Speaker 2: did think it out. I think they were pretty effective

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Speaker 2: in that first hour, taking out whatever it was, fifty

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Speaker 2: four leaders. There were two other leaders who were taken

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Speaker 2: out today and now finally being acknowledged. The names don't

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Speaker 2: mean much to us here in America because they were

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Speaker 2: way down to the proverbial deth chart. But when you're

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Speaker 2: that went in with their intelligence and take out apparently

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Speaker 2: the individual who was the confidante and the strategist who

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Speaker 2: was left standing, while he's not standing any longer. So

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Speaker 2: I'd like to find out from you. You know, we

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Speaker 2: hear polls and everybody, it seems to me, is saying, well,

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Speaker 2: if this thing isn't over within two weeks, then that's

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Speaker 2: got to be a failure. I don't understand why we

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Speaker 2: as a country don't support what has gone on here.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was a brilliant tactical strike in which

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Speaker 2: the Israelis and the United States were able to eliminate

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Speaker 2: tiers of leadership of this Iranian government. Can you imagine

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Speaker 2: if it's in nineteen thirty nine we had the intelligence

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Speaker 2: to have eliminated Hitler and his henchmen in Germany? Would

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Speaker 2: have you done it? I think most of us would have.

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Speaker 2: So what I want to do is get a sense

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Speaker 2: I don't think Donald Trump wants to occupy Iran. I

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Speaker 2: don't think Donald Trump wants boots in the ground. And

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Speaker 2: I think the fact that they were dropping five hundred

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Speaker 2: think basically says that. So I'm going to open up

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Speaker 2: the phone line six one, seven, two, five, four ten

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Speaker 2: Trump administration on this is doing what had to be done.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I know that there was a resignation today of a

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Speaker 2: top Trump government official who most people had never heard

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Speaker 2: of before today. But he will be lionized by those

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Speaker 2: who don't like the Trump administration. And there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of reasons not to like the Trump administration. But on this,

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Speaker 2: on this, why can we not stand as a country

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Speaker 2: and say it doesn't matter who the president is. If

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Speaker 2: he can take this government off the board as a

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Speaker 2: player on the nuclear stage, it at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, is a good thing. Six one, seven, two, five, four,

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Speaker 2: Coming right back on night side after this quick break.

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Speaker 2: My name's Dan Ray.

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Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w b

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Speaker 1: Z Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of information here from the mister BBC.

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Speaker 2: Iron's Army chief says there will be a decisive response

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Speaker 2: to the killing of Security Chief Ali Larigiana in an

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Speaker 2: overnight In overnight Israeli strikes. Larijan is the most senior

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Speaker 2: Iranian fisher will be killed since Supreme leader Ali Kamani

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Speaker 2: was killed. It also there's also the word tonight that

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Speaker 2: let me see if I can get this for you.

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Speaker 2: This is from CNN, which I think again is very important.

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Speaker 2: They do say that marines are on their way. A

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Speaker 2: US Navy warship believed to be carrying marines and sailors

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Speaker 2: to the Middle East was nearing the Malacca Strait off

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Speaker 2: Singapore as it made its way toward the region. Maritime

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Speaker 2: tracking Shoal Maritime tracking data showed on Tuesday and again

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Speaker 2: tonight they have dropped bombs five thousand pounds GPS guided

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Speaker 2: bombs on underground Iranian missile sites. This is according against CNN,

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Speaker 2: the US military dropped five thousand pound guided bombs designed

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Speaker 2: to penetrate targets deep underground on Iranian missile sites along

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Speaker 2: the Strait of Hormuz on Tuesda, Hormuz on Tuesday, Central

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Speaker 2: Command hours ago, quoting now, US forces successfully employed multiple

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Speaker 2: five thousand pounds deep penetrator munitions on hardened Iranian missile

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Speaker 2: sites along Iran's coastline near the Strait of Hormuz. Senkam

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Speaker 2: said the Iranian anti ship cruise missiles in these sites

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Speaker 2: posed a risk to international shipping in the strait. The

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Speaker 2: US officials said the munitions were the GBU seventy two

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Speaker 2: that means nothing to me advanced five K penetrator, a

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Speaker 2: bomb released by US aircraft for the first time in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. The GBU seventy two was developed to

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Speaker 2: overcome hardened, deeply buried target challenges, an Air Force release

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Speaker 2: said in twenty twenty one. In a video posted on

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Speaker 2: and describe theniscent the munition as nothing like anything we

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Speaker 2: have right now. This is a GPS guided kit instead

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Speaker 2: of laser guided, so rain shine, snow, it'll hit target

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Speaker 2: Air Force staff Sogeant Zachary Schaeffer said in the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three interview, all right, let me see what all

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Speaker 2: of you think this is. This is a devastating weapon,

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Speaker 2: and the Straight of Hemus has effectively been closed due

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Speaker 2: to threats from Iran to target ships from the US,

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Speaker 2: Israel and their allies. Admiral Brad Cooper, commander of Sentcom,

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Speaker 2: said Monday the US would continue to rapidly deplete Iran's

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Speaker 2: Strait of Womus, and that apparently what has happened tonight.

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Speaker 2: Let me go to Joe and Belmont. Joe, you are

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Speaker 2: next to your first this hour nightside, Joe, go right ahead. Dan.

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Speaker 4: I heard on radio or television that someone said I

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Speaker 4: would rather have five dollars for gas than have a

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Speaker 2: That could have been me. I would agree with that

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Speaker 2: sentiment because I don't think it's going to be five

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Speaker 2: dollar gas for a long time either. Joe.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Dan, you know I was out at Ella's Air

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Speaker 2: What's that in Nevada?

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Speaker 4: Las Vegas?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Right, Las Vegas? You don't get more Nevada than Las Vegas.

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Speaker 4: Joe, nine miles from downtown, eleven miles from the Strip.

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Speaker 4: I'm unfamiliar with the missions out there because I was

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much for your service, Joe. I

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Speaker 2: know that goes back a few years, but it's been

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Speaker 2: an amazing what the US pilots have been able to

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Speaker 2: I believe that that was devastated. I think the President

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Speaker 2: said obliterated. And it looks like tonight they have hit

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Speaker 2: these these hardened underground missile launching sites just near the

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Speaker 2: of hor Moves the passage of of of oil tankers,

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Speaker 2: which would be a good thing for US and for

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Speaker 2: the world.

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Speaker 3: Dam Yeah, Joe, go ahead, keep up the good work.

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Speaker 2: We love you, appreciate it. Joe, thank you much, and

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Speaker 2: thank you for your service in the US Air Force.

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Speaker 4: All right, thank you much.

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Speaker 2: All right, let me get my hip there goes Joe.

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Speaker 2: Let me go to Jamie in Wobert. Hey, Jamie next

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Speaker 5: Welcome, Yes, sir, Dan, thank you so much. I have

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Speaker 5: always watched you since I was five years old when

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Speaker 5: actually you were on channel Board.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir for a long time. Thank you very much, Jamie.

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Speaker 5: I just have to say, Dan, I think that some

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Speaker 5: of these people inside of our country, they don't realize

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Speaker 5: that these that that I am that I am not

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Speaker 5: saying all of the Iranian people are based. All of

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Speaker 5: them are not that. It's just that some of these

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Speaker 5: radicals they just don't like us.

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Speaker 3: They just like to.

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Speaker 5: They just want to kill. And that's not human, that's

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Speaker 5: not humane, that's not anything.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think I think that they had this very

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Speaker 2: deep belief and these these are the political leaders. They

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Speaker 2: see that this was a way for them to achieve

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Speaker 2: political power by using their religion. That wouldn't happen in

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Speaker 2: this country. I remember, I'm old enough to remember when

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Speaker 2: John Kennedy ran for president and some of the Bible

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Speaker 2: belt Baptist but Bible belt politicians were afraid that he

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Speaker 2: was going to take his orders from the Vatican. Well,

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Speaker 2: that was never true, and we broke through that barrier

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Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty. But with these Theocrats. They looked at

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Speaker 2: their mission as the destruction of Israel as some sort

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Speaker 2: of a theologically inspired mission. And if they had ever

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Speaker 2: little Satan, right And I feel too.

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Speaker 5: And it just doesn't make sense because and then I'm

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Speaker 2: Dan, I'm sure, No, no, no, no, You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I can remember that that that that Watertown

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Speaker 2: the world. Jamie, thank you so much for your call.

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Speaker 2: Are we safer today? I would argue we are now.

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Speaker 2: a mistake. I firmly believe that. I'd love to know

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Speaker 2: We're continuing to talk about the war between the United

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Speaker 2: And they also have killed another top official the the

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Speaker 2: So the bottom line that I'm hoping some of you

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Speaker 2: Me go next to Bob down in the ocean Staateum,

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Speaker 2: I have a little bit of trouble here with my mouse,

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Speaker 6: Ahead, Okay, Dan first of all, and then the NATO

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Speaker 7: No, no good, Nope.

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Speaker 2: Now again, you know, there's no sense of use trying

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Speaker 2: You don't have to ask you.

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Speaker 6: Tell me why then, why do they all reject to Trump's.

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Speaker 2: Because they have often allowed the United States to take

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Speaker 6: Bob, I was born in nineteen fifty.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 6: I read the history books just like you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let me ask you this. If the United

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Speaker 6: This is different than.

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Speaker 2: See here's the problem, Bob, Bob, I asked you a question,

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Speaker 6: Saved they saved they they saved that the D Day.

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Speaker 6: But the bottom line is correct.

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Speaker 2: The bottom line is tonight, the story of the night

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Speaker 6: Because the United States have enough people that can afford

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you want the I'm not trying to put

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Speaker 1: Oh so so okay?

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Speaker 2: Wait se So you want them to him win?

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Speaker 6: I don't want to see him win.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So who you're rooting for? Trump or Iran?

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Speaker 2: Good for you. I think you're a sick man right now, Bob,

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Speaker 2: because if Iran were too well, Bob, but why would you?

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Speaker 2: Why would you? Why would you root for a country

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Speaker 6: I hate?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, thank you for your honesty.

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: And you talk about what do you think? He's done

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Speaker 2: He's attacked Ukraine, he invaded Ukraine, He's killed innocent people

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Speaker 6: Is attacking Iran. These the reason we're in this mess.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well you're rooting for Iran, and let's see, let's

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Speaker 6: I'm rooting for the United States, but I hate Trump.

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Speaker 6: I wanted to get impeached and that's that's that's what

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Speaker 2: Well, good luck, well that you have, you have everything

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Speaker 2: every you have a right to think what you want,

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Speaker 2: and you can all always express your epenias states. But

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Speaker 6: Is crazy? Okay, Well he's a sick man.

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Speaker 2: Well you can believe that that he's the only president

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Speaker 2: we have right now. When I used to talk.

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Speaker 6: About jokingly, well they can be in peace, just like

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Speaker 2: What are they going to impeach? Good for you, all right, Bob,

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Speaker 2: made it through the call and you didn't even end

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Speaker 2: up in the in the water. Thank you. Six one, seven, two, five, four,

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Speaker 2: ten thirty. I got some open lines here. I hope

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Speaker 2: I have some callers out there. I don't care what

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Speaker 2: you think. I just want to make sure you're thinking.

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Speaker 2: And you cannot be blind. You cannot be blinded with

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Speaker 2: your hatred of Donald Trumps, as Bob freely admits, I

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Speaker 2: admire and respect his honesty. He's the only president we

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Speaker 2: have right now. The war has been conducted, I think

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Speaker 2: pretty effectively at this point. If you if you don't

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Speaker 2: today there was a security official who resigned because he

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Speaker 2: didn't agree that the threat to US from Iran was imminent. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's he wants to he wants to quit, he wants

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Speaker 2: to get out. That's fine. But but they were getting

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Speaker 2: very close. They were getting perilously close to having a

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Speaker 2: weapon that they could use against Israel or against US.

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Speaker 2: Let me go next to Steve in New Hampshire. Steve,

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Speaker 2: welcome back. How are you, sir.

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Speaker 3: I'll be saying Patty's.

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Speaker 2: Day, Dan, same to you, Same to you. The real

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Speaker 2: the realestate.

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Speaker 3: That good day. I can tell you I had a

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Speaker 3: great day. I just want to say that I do

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Speaker 3: support Trump and what he's done. I think he has

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Speaker 3: meticulously going after the command and control for Iran. We

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Speaker 3: absolutely positively cannot let them get a nuclear bomb. I'll

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Speaker 3: end up with like a like a North Korea, which

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Speaker 3: Clinton really regrets that they ever got the bomb that

468
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Speaker 3: caused all kinds of problems. It's still causing problems, but

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Speaker 3: that's an entirely different country than this these religious fanatics.

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Speaker 3: I think that as far as what Trump's done so far,

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Speaker 3: he's you know, basically there's nothing left in that country.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're bomb they were running out of targets.

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Speaker 3: I question why they're letting the Iranian tankers go through

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Speaker 3: the Strait of Her Moves. Why don't we just take

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Speaker 3: them over and sell the oil, you know, to you know,

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Speaker 3: or use it. I mean, I don't understand that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll try to explain it. I think the point

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Speaker 2: that he is trying to make is that he wants

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Speaker 2: those strikes open, uh, and then he's not going to

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Speaker 2: attack the infrastructure that that the next government in Iran

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Speaker 2: as he sees it that the next government in Iran

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Speaker 2: will need to survive. Obviously, if there is a revolution,

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Speaker 2: if there is a takeover by the by the populace

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Speaker 2: of Iran and they get rid of the leadership that

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Speaker 2: they have labored under for forty seven years, he hasn't

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Speaker 2: He could have easily bombed the the oil facilities that

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Speaker 2: are very close to the to the Strait of A Moves,

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Speaker 2: but that would cripple Iran into Iran's economy, and they

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Speaker 2: would cause tremendous problems for the people of Iran. So

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Speaker 2: I think he's trying to be selective. Let's see if

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Speaker 2: it works.

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Speaker 3: Well. I thought about that carg Island, which is like

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Speaker 3: the key refinery for Iran. Yep, he's not taking out

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Speaker 3: the refinery. I think that we might have an expeditionary

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Speaker 3: for us and go in and take that island. We

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Speaker 3: could take that thing in a matter of hours. I

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Speaker 3: don't think it would take very long at all if

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Speaker 3: they got the Marines over there, that's what they do.

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Speaker 3: We've already on their all their defenses. There's I don't

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Speaker 3: know how many people are defending that island, and an

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Speaker 3: island is a really hard thing to defend if you've

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Speaker 3: already taken out all their defenses. So yeah, maybe, well,

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think I think that he wants to have the option.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what happens. Obviously, I don't want marines to

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Speaker 2: be in a situation where the ifire fight with the

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Speaker 2: Iranian military. I'm hoping the Imrani military will be so

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Speaker 2: it would be a quick one, but there would be

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Speaker 2: some losses.

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Speaker 1: But I do.

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Speaker 3: I do support him, and I do, and you know,

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Speaker 3: I can't believe anybody would support Iran, no matter what

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Speaker 3: I mean, even if you hate Trump.

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Speaker 2: I just you know, you just you just heard Bob.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't believe what I'm listening to. I mean,

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Speaker 3: what country does this guy live in?

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Speaker 2: You know, I firmly believe that people have a right

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Speaker 2: and I think people need to hear from Bob and

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Speaker 2: Rhode Island because he has a point of view. He's

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Speaker 2: an American citizen like you and me, and his opinion.

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Speaker 2: You do to agree with him, but I think he's

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Speaker 2: honest and what he says, he doesn't try to hide

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Speaker 2: his disdain for Trump at all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. I don't always agree with Trump

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Speaker 3: on everything he does, but he the good outweighs the bad.

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Speaker 3: That's the way I look at it with him. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he does more good things than bad things.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you totally. Steve has always appreciates you

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Speaker 2: taking the time. Thank you much. We'll talk soon. Six

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Speaker 2: one seven, two, five, four, ten thirty. Those lines are full.

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Speaker 2: Six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. Both of

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Speaker 2: those lines are open. Let's get it going. Let's let's

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Speaker 2: light those lines up. My name's Dan Ray. This is

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Speaker 2: nice side back after this.

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Speaker 1: Night side with Dan Ray. I'MBZ Boston's news Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back to the telephones we go. Let me go next

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Speaker 2: to Ron in Newton. Ron, your thoughts and what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Oh I pissed the wrong button here? Okay, let me

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Speaker 2: kill that. Let's kill this one. This screen's a little

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Speaker 2: more complicated, a little trick here. Hey, Ron, how are

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Speaker 2: you welcome?

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Speaker 7: Hi Dan, thank you.

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Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on the latest developments over in Iran?

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Speaker 7: So some of my thoughts. And I've been thinking about

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Speaker 7: this actually for a while and trying to draw or

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Speaker 7: trying to draw any parallels to what we did as

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Speaker 7: the uneasy alignment that took place with the Big Three

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Speaker 7: President Roosevelt, Winston Churchill, and Joseph Stalin. It was a

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Speaker 7: it was an uneasy but a necessary alliance, interestingly established

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Speaker 7: at the Iran Conference. Yes, today I think that the

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Speaker 7: US and Israel lead a we can consider it modern

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Speaker 7: ally and with coalition against Iran's access of resistance, and

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Speaker 7: that includes proxies such as says Bullet, and the Hutis

554
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Speaker 7: and various militias. I think from a strategic and pragmatic standpoint.

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Speaker 7: The Allies also had a military strategy like the post

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Speaker 7: war plans, that is the Marshall Plan and to rebuild

557
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Speaker 7: Europe and in essence formed the Allies that we have

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Speaker 7: with Europe today and also the United Nations. And similarly,

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Speaker 7: I think in the modern day time, I think the

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Speaker 7: Abraham Accords and the Saudi Aron Normalization are attempting to

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Speaker 7: foster somewhat of a regional stability through economic security and

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Speaker 7: integrate and integration echoing the multilateralism. I think that Roosevelt champions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there are certainly similarities. And I think that if

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Speaker 2: Trump is president, Trump is able to defend Iran and

565
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: paved the way for relationships, good economic relationships to exist

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Speaker 2: between Israel, which is our greatest ally in the Middle East,

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Speaker 2: and Saudi Arabia and the other Arab states. Building on

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Speaker 2: the Abraham Accords, he will become I think, like Roosevelt,

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Speaker 2: the transformational president.

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Speaker 3: I think so.

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Speaker 7: And then if you look at I think geopolitical differences

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Speaker 7: are similar, but the differences the differences are with the

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Speaker 7: wartime home domestic perception. I mean, then after the after

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Speaker 7: pro harbor, all of the resources ranging from women joining

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Speaker 7: the workforce to food rationing, intense industrial training organized by

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Speaker 7: Marshall at the time, quite different from our to days.

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Speaker 7: You know, I think short term view, as you mentioned.

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Speaker 6: Either last night or the night before.

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Speaker 7: Sure, we are only a short time into it, and

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Speaker 7: we're expecting a one hour conclusion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And the problem is that ever since the Vietnam War,

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Speaker 2: which I think was mishandled by the Johnson administration, I

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Speaker 2: don't think the Kennedy administration did a great job. They

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Speaker 2: kind of you know, they made commitments that were halfway

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Speaker 2: around the world, and I don't think they understood what

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Speaker 2: was at stake. It turns out now Vietnam is an

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Speaker 2: ally of the United States. So it's funny how sometimes

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Speaker 2: out of these wars alliance has developed. But I just

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00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 2: hope that what Trump is doing is effective and is right.

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Speaker 2: I think that it's morally correct to get rid of

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Speaker 2: the regime because it represented a clear and present danger

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Speaker 2: to Israel, and it would have eventually been a clear

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Speaker 2: and present danger to the United States. And we wouldn't

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Speaker 2: have known when that bomb was dropped. Yep, if when

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Speaker 2: it was going to be dropped, all right, I'll let

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Speaker 2: you go wrong. Great analysis. Thank you appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get one more in here before the break,

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Speaker 2: and then will you hang in there. You'll start us

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Speaker 2: off next hour joe In and Waltham. Joe In here

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Speaker 2: next on Nightside, go right ahead.

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Speaker 8: Wow, I got to follow him.

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Speaker 7: He was great.

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Speaker 2: She's pretty good. We have some good good listeners. What

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Speaker 2: did just tell me? What you think? That's that's what

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Speaker 2: I want to know.

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Speaker 8: Well, I think Trump is doing all this now. He's

607
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Speaker 8: trying to get it all done before November, because God forbid,

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Speaker 8: if the Democrats take over, forget about it, it'll be

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Speaker 8: impeachments every week.

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Speaker 2: Well, he would be truly a lame duck president. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's in his second term. Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 8: I was wondering, you know, Venezuela, and now he's talking

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Speaker 8: Cuba and Greenland and you know Iran. I'm like, why

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Speaker 8: is he doing it all so quick?

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Speaker 2: You know, Well, he's a businessman and he sort of

616
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Speaker 2: sees things. He sees things differently than you and I do.

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Speaker 2: He sees an opportunity and I think he I think

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Speaker 2: he's mightily influenced by the Prime Minister of Israel, which

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Speaker 2: is not a problem for me because I think Israel

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Speaker 2: is our only great ally right right at that time.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I with you. I hope it ends quick

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Speaker 8: and the Iranian people are able to take over. But

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Speaker 8: I also heard, you know, their army whatever, they all

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Speaker 8: have guns. The Iranian people don't have guns, yep.

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Speaker 2: And that's a that's a big disadvantage. By the way,

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Speaker 2: I want you to be the first to know that

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Speaker 2: Venezuela has just defeated the United States and the World

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Speaker 2: Baseball Classic three to two on a home run by

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Speaker 2: Red Sox right fielder Will Mavrau uh so uh Somewhere

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Speaker 2: tonight the president of former president of Venezuela, smiling Joey,

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Speaker 2: and I got a screwed here. Okay, okay, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much, Okay, good time. All right, here comes the

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Speaker 2: eleven o'clock news. Will you stay there, you lead us off.

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Speaker 2: If you're not in the line, Callos up and Lynn

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Speaker 2: will get to you as well.

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Speaker 3: Six