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Speaker 1: All right, Billy Cunningham, the Great America, and welcome this

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Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon in the tri States. We've had three nights

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Speaker 1: of the reds athletically across the nation. Monday night, of course,

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Speaker 1: Monday Night football in Denver didn't turn out real well,

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Speaker 1: Bengals are playing Sunday against the Lions right here, then

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Speaker 1: the Packers and the Steelers. If you're an optimist, three

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Speaker 1: in the AFC North. If not, we'll have to pick

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Speaker 1: up the pieces and worry about Xavier basketball. But until then,

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Speaker 1: one of the themes happening in every urban area, but

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Speaker 1: even here in Cincinnati, is that the criminal justice system

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Speaker 1: does not provide criminal justice to the victims, many times

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Speaker 1: only to the defendants. And so the Hamilton County Jail

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Speaker 1: judges are not putting shall we say, criminal defendants in prison.

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Speaker 1: We have a police force that is demoralized because they

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Speaker 1: out in the streets mocking the police. We don't enforce

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Speaker 1: laws in Hamletin County. So joining you now is you,

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Speaker 1: and I now is Judge Josh Berkowitz. He's the administrative

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Speaker 1: and presiding judge currently of Hamilton County Municipal Court. Been

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Speaker 1: there for about a decade. He knows everything about Hamilton

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Speaker 1: County Municipal Court. And Judge Josh Burkle, which former prosecutor

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Speaker 1: to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, judge

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Speaker 2: Well, thanks, Bill, it's great talking to you. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: And like you said, these are national issues that are

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Speaker 2: This is kind of the product of really twenty years,

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Speaker 2: idea is that kind of filtered through college sociology programs

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Speaker 2: kind of that ideological capture. And here in Hamilton County,

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Speaker 2: that progressive mentality has you know, that's the prosecutor's office now,

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Speaker 2: the entire justice system is dominated right now by this

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Speaker 3: That's evidenced, Like you said, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, our jail right now is four hundred inmates below capacity,

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Speaker 1: It's absurd, And so what happening. Let me talk about

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Speaker 1: And it was typical. The place where criminals and cops

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Speaker 1: Hambig missipal corpse not set a bond. They set a

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Speaker 2: It's really bizarre. I mean, you know, what we've experienced

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Speaker 4: Fact require.

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Speaker 2: Lower bonds o R bonds, which means somebody gets released

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Speaker 1: Now and in the core of this, Judge Josh Burka,

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Speaker 2: There is certain that's absolutely right. There are certain people

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Speaker 2: this really culminated with this decision in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Judge Berkowitz. It begins with a simple arrest. And when

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Speaker 1: I have on Ken Kober and the cops, they tell

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Speaker 1: Lemon Currenty tell them don't pull somebody over for a

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Speaker 1: And then you find out they have warns out for

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Speaker 1: it begins with the fact that police believe in Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Homelessness is pursuing to a corridorder illegal, leave them alone,

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Speaker 1: right now that the leadership at city Hall has actively

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Speaker 2: They want officers reacting and responding to calls for assistance.

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Speaker 4: Correct one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, I think we have a great system

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Speaker 2: You know what's an appropriate bond, Well, the voters get

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Speaker 3: It's not the victim's fault.

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Speaker 2: It's not the system's fault when somebody gets locked up

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Speaker 2: you mentioned that press conference in the highway patrol here

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Speaker 5: What a joke.

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Speaker 2: You know, that is the epitome of what Sarah Haringer

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Speaker 2: Does anybody believe that two days a month of having

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Speaker 4: In fact, Judge, the two days didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, there are no two days and not been here

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Speaker 1: yet with Judge Josh Burkoh, it's we got to run.

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Speaker 1: You're sounding the alarm. It's up to the electorate to

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Speaker 1: do what's responsible. Judge burko Witch, once again, thanks for

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Speaker 1: lines of communication open. Thank you, Thank you very much Judge, thank.

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Speaker 2: You, Hey, hey, Bill, thank you for having me. If

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Speaker 2: keep Judge Berkowitz dot com. You know these are your

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Speaker 4: Judge, thank you very much. We'll do it again. God

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Speaker 4: bless you and thank you very much. Thanks Bill, continue

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Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred Wildom All right, Billy Cunningham,

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Speaker 1: the great American. This great Thursday afternoon in the tri

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Speaker 1: State of This is global warming. I love it, and

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Speaker 1: The nation, I get many texts from my friends around

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Speaker 4: And Cincinnati we're no different.

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Speaker 1: We're about ten years behind, but we're going to get

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Speaker 1: there on the course we're on, unless you, as a voter,

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Speaker 1: change direction and say, you know, restorative justice and no

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Speaker 1: bail for serious felonies is a problem. There were seven

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Speaker 1: people arrested on the July twenty six feet down after

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Speaker 1: the music festival, and all but two are now free

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Speaker 1: on bail awaiting trial. And then in front of half

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Speaker 1: the judges in Hamlinty County, you can commit serious crime

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Speaker 1: and nothing happens.

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Speaker 4: Anyway.

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Speaker 1: They have this idea that there's too many people locked up.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to lock up people in prison. That's

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Speaker 1: why there are floors of the Hamlet County Justice Center

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Speaker 1: that are empty right now because there's hardly anyone awaiting

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Speaker 1: trial on a bond. The idea of at least half

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Speaker 1: the judges is no cash bond, simply get out, sign

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Speaker 1: your name, and you're gone. Burglarized, drug deals, manslaughters, reckless

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Speaker 1: operation DUIs, whatever it might be, burglary, just sign your

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Speaker 1: name and get out. That's the idea of the last

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Speaker 1: ten years of the judges. Well, Judge Berkowitz is not

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Speaker 1: one of them. He's got his finger in the dike,

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Speaker 1: along with a few others like Judge tink a Locker.

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Speaker 1: And this should not be political. With a small p

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Speaker 1: many years, the Democratic judges in Haminy County were not

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Speaker 1: much different than the Republican judges.

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Speaker 4: You want to keep the community safe. So if you

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Speaker 4: were Judge Maurice Neehouse or Judge Richard Kneehouse.

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Speaker 1: Or Judge feller Off or Judge Black or Judge West

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Speaker 1: or Judge Melburn Marsh who has another year or two

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Speaker 1: to go, they're all Democrats except Melba. I love her dearly.

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Speaker 1: She's a Republican, but she's an African American. I knew

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Speaker 1: her mother, Martha quite well. The idea is, if you're

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Speaker 1: arrested and there's probable cause.

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Speaker 4: To believe you committed a very serious offense, you're going

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Speaker 4: to be locked up pending trial. That doesn't happen anymore.

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Speaker 1: It used to be, Okay, you did something serious, so

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Speaker 1: you're going to spend three months in the Hamlin County jail.

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Speaker 1: Find out what jail is like. And then after that

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Speaker 1: you're on probation. And if you commit another crime on probation,

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Speaker 1: guess what, you're going up north, You're going to the

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Speaker 1: PENITENTI None of that happens anymore either, because you can

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Speaker 1: violate probation. The judges, not Judge Berkowitz, but the other judges,

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Speaker 1: Wendy Cross, etc. Took this satellite probation offices and brought

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Speaker 1: them all downtown to make it a pain in the

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Speaker 1: neck for those on probation actually report. And so every

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Speaker 1: step is taken to make the victims of crime less

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Speaker 1: noted for for the injuries inflicted upon them. Every event

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Speaker 1: is on behalf of the defendant, and most of it,

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Speaker 1: a lot of it is based in so called racial politics.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't racial politics for Judge Black, or for Judge

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Speaker 1: Melbourne Marsh or Judge West. No, it simply was this

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Speaker 1: person very likely committed a serious offense and they're going

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Speaker 1: to pay for it. Today, this person committed a serious

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Speaker 1: offense and they're not going to pay for it. That's

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Speaker 1: the attitude and has changed completely. The Democratic judges fifteen

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Speaker 1: to twenty years ago weren't much different than the Republican judges.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: In fact, there was Republican judges like Judge Gilbert Bettman,

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Speaker 1: Republican who was more liberal than some of the Democratic judges.

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Speaker 4: It was simply to protect the community. That doesn't happen anymore.

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Speaker 1: And at the core of it is, of course, restorative justice,

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Speaker 1: reparations and race. By that, I mean if you look

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Speaker 1: at the faces of those who commit most of these

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Speaker 1: serious offenses in the city of Cincinnati, it's a young

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Speaker 1: male blackface. And so the judges haven't gone through the colleges,

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Speaker 1: the universities, the law schools, haven't been public defenders have

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Speaker 1: been part of liberal interest advocacy groups do not look

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Speaker 1: upon necessarily the crime committed, but the race of the

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Speaker 1: person who committed it. So you want to pull your

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Speaker 1: punch because that's about restorative justice or reparations. While the

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Speaker 1: victims of those young black males tend to be overwhelmingly

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Speaker 1: other young black males, and the mothers of the victims

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Speaker 1: who are killed. They want justice for their loved one.

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Speaker 1: So you see, and Xavier will hold symposiums on what

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Speaker 1: to do if you're victimized by crime on campus. Thousands

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Speaker 1: of crimes take place every year on the UC campus

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Speaker 1: that are not reported to the police. Why well, the

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Speaker 1: main reason is because the police don't respond. Why don't

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Speaker 1: they respond? City Hall does not want the Cincinnati police

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Speaker 1: to be proactive in what they're doing. They want them

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Speaker 1: to be reactive and stand down. Don't pull cars over.

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Speaker 1: See somebody smoking pot, leave alone, See someone homeless using needles,

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Speaker 1: leave malone. See someone committing other minor offenses, don't find

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Speaker 1: out what it is, because if you go hands on

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Speaker 1: with somebody, you might have the Irish Rolli types breathing

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Speaker 1: down your neck.

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Speaker 4: You might be sued.

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Speaker 1: And secondly, you're going to find out that have other

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Speaker 1: warrants for their arrest. And we don't want to go

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Speaker 1: down that route. So the mayor, the Vice mayor who

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Speaker 1: is Victoria Parks, the President po Temp pro tem Scottie Johnson,

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Speaker 1: lemon Kearney. They have a view of law enforcement that says,

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Speaker 1: if you commit a serious crime and there's probable cause

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Speaker 1: believe that you did it. You deserve to be out

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Speaker 1: on bond. Get them out and don't pull over misdemeanor

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Speaker 1: lawbreakers to find out you got more serious issues. And

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Speaker 1: we're going to find out in November, what's only about

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Speaker 1: five weeks away, how serious people are in Cincinnati and

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Speaker 1: Hemlet County about criminal justice. The block community is more

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Speaker 1: inflicted with crime than any other community. And that is

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Speaker 1: the block community is very likely to keep voting for

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Speaker 1: the politicians and the judges who have a soft on

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Speaker 1: crime approach for reasons unclear to me, and I hope

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Speaker 1: it changes. If it doesn't change, Cincinnati, which is about

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Speaker 1: ten years behind other major cities, are going to go

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Speaker 1: down the tubes, just like downtown Dayton, just like Columbus,

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Speaker 1: just like Cleveland or Memphis, whatever it might be. We're

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Speaker 1: going to be similar. When Victoria Parks, the President pro

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Speaker 1: tema city council can say that Holly beg to be beaten.

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Speaker 1: And when you have this show with the governor standing

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Speaker 1: in with the FBI, the atf US Marshal Service, Prosecutor's

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Speaker 1: office and everyone talking about, okay, the adults are coming

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Speaker 1: in now. The Highway of Patrol is going to be here.

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Speaker 1: That was all a farce. It came out to two

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Speaker 1: shifts a month, which has turned to zero. It doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: It's all about smoking mirrors. So it'll be up to

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Speaker 1: you in about five weeks what direction you went to

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Speaker 1: city in the county to go become informed, know what's

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Speaker 1: going on. If you like the course of crime and

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Speaker 1: debaucherous misbehavior in the city of Cincinnati, just vote for Democrats.

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Speaker 1: They promised more of the same. In fact, they don't

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Speaker 1: think there's a problem. Well, Sarah Herringer knows there's a problem.

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Speaker 1: Holly knows there's a problem, and the mothers of all

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Speaker 1: these dead kids know that there's a problem, and you

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Speaker 1: got to change. If you don't change, you're going to

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Speaker 1: get more of the same. And then judges like Josh

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Speaker 1: Berklewitch will simply at some point age out and they'll

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Speaker 1: be replaced by a restorative justice person who thinks that

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Speaker 1: anyone locked up on a crime previous to convict is

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Speaker 1: a problem. You know, no one is actually guilty until

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Speaker 1: trial or until they plead there's probable cause to believe

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Speaker 1: they committed the offense. But no cash bonds means that

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Speaker 1: criminals aren't running the streets. We have about five hundred

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Speaker 1: to one thousand total criminals. The great majority of black,

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Speaker 1: young black kids have nothing to do with crime. But

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Speaker 1: the face of crime is a young black male face.

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Speaker 1: So we address the one thousand that are acting up

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Speaker 1: committing crimes against their own community, then the other twenty

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Speaker 1: five to thirty thousand black kids can get on with

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Speaker 1: their life that wouldn't commit any crime any more than

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Speaker 1: I would commit a crime. It's a small distinct number

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Speaker 1: in the black community, protected by liberal Democrats. In fact,

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Speaker 1: there's so protected that the Vice mayor lemon Kearney will

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Speaker 1: pay armed robbers one thousand dollars a month to not

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Speaker 1: commit more armed robberies. You're paid not to commit crime.

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Speaker 1: It's called the h It's a program it's council voted

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Speaker 1: for to reduce gun violence, and that they pay you

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Speaker 1: not to commit armed robberies. I give you travel vouchers

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Speaker 1: and job trainings and therapy and more, not prison. You'll

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Speaker 1: be paid not to give it more crimes. That city

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Speaker 1: Council's approach. Let's continue. After two o'clock today we'll be

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Speaker 1: Brandon Sajo. After one o'clock will be Erica Sanzi and

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Speaker 1: so much more twelve fifty five, Home of Your Reds

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Speaker 1: Getting Ready for Spring Training twenty twenty six on News

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Speaker 1: Radio seven hundred WULW. Bill Cunningham, the great American. Of course,

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Speaker 1: if you've listened to me in the past several years,

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Speaker 1: certainly public education is a complete turmoil. Although I'm very

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Speaker 1: familiar with happening in Cincinnati public schools, the same is

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Speaker 1: true in Chicago or Austin, or Sacramento or New York.

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Speaker 1: I could not imagine being in Atlanta public school where

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Speaker 1: that its education must be. Like I've referenced before that

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Speaker 1: many of these kids come out as marching Marxist. The

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Speaker 1: average twelfth grader in Chicago reads about the eighth grade level.

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Speaker 1: It's in doctrination, not education, and it's getting worse. It's

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Speaker 1: not getting better.

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Speaker 4: Jona, and you and I.

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Speaker 1: I is doctor eric Osanzi. She's a public relations director

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Speaker 1: with defunding, defending education, et cetera, and defunding education as

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Speaker 1: it is today. And Erica, welcome, I think for the

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Speaker 1: first time to the Bill Cunningham Show. Before we get

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Speaker 1: into your article at OutKick, which I think was fabulous,

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Speaker 1: can you kind of tell us what's happening with doctor

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Speaker 1: Ian Roberts, the superintendent des Moines, which is illustrative of

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Speaker 1: a larger problem.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, this is one of those stories that

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Speaker 3: you actually feel like it's like made for a move

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Speaker 3: to be made into a movie. Every time I check

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Speaker 3: the news, another shoe has dropped related to this guy.

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Speaker 3: But essentially, you know, the Des Moines Public Schools that has,

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Speaker 3: you know, thirty five thousand students hired this man, doctor

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Speaker 3: Ian Roberts, to become their superintendent. His salary plus benefit

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Speaker 3: fits all in per year with three hundred and five

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars. And it turns out that he appears to

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Speaker 3: just be kind of like a con man. So he

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Speaker 3: was arrested the end of last week by Ice or

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Speaker 3: detained I think the word right, detained by ice because

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Speaker 3: there was an active deportation order out for him which

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Speaker 3: was issued under the Biben administration in May of twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four. When he was pursued by the Ice agents,

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Speaker 3: he abandoned his car and took off in like some

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Speaker 3: sort of like woods or like I think they said

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Speaker 3: it was like a brushy area, left a loaded gun

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Speaker 3: in his car, three thousand dollars in cash, so that's

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Speaker 3: already like a pretty big story. But it turns out

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Speaker 3: that he also had lied about his credentials, had lied

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Speaker 3: about getting a doctorate from Morgan State, which he never did.

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Speaker 3: So he was going by doctor back when he was

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Speaker 3: working in the DC Public School in twenty twelve, but

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Speaker 3: he didn't actually get his or his doctorate until twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty one. And I think it was kind of from

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Speaker 3: one of those like online diploma mill type places. He

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Speaker 3: misrepresented being a citizen on his I nine and he

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Speaker 3: also left behind he worked at school in Pennsylvania and

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Speaker 3: left in his way four hundred and five thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: in legal settlement costs for the district, all directly related

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Speaker 3: to him. And I mean, I mean, I don't you

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Speaker 3: never want to relish in a story, but it really

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Speaker 3: does like it just it's it's insane. And then when

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Speaker 3: you see what his ideology was, when you see what

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Speaker 3: the policies were in des Moines under him, it just

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Speaker 3: all makes sense.

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Speaker 1: He was a classic Dei hire. He fit the formula

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Speaker 1: of the Liberals of des Pine Board of Education. And

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Speaker 1: I suppose one of the women, one of the ladies

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Speaker 1: that hired him, is now running for the Senate and

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Speaker 1: Iowa to take the place of Jody Urns next year.

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Speaker 4: And I'm describe that, explain that one.

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Speaker 3: It's even worse than that. So, first of all, I

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Speaker 3: hate to say this because this does make me sound sexist,

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Speaker 3: and that's fine. This is an all female school board,

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Speaker 3: and I do think that's relevant because of the way

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Speaker 3: that empathy is much more easily weaponized with women. Number Two,

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Speaker 3: the ch the board chair. This woman who is the

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Speaker 3: chair of the board was in the past Michelle Obama's

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Speaker 3: chief of staff perfect and she's now running for a

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Speaker 3: US Senate. And the funniest thing is she made a

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Speaker 3: video a few days ago saying I've been so busy

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Speaker 3: with my volunteer job as a school board chair this

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Speaker 3: past week that i haven't had time to can't work

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Speaker 3: on my campaign, so please donate money. So she's literally

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Speaker 3: she's fundraising off a massive failure, which I don't know

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Speaker 3: that just kind of that takes a lot of I

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Speaker 3: don't know what to think that people are going to

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Speaker 3: want to give you money because.

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Speaker 6: You are now like a.

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Speaker 3: Nationwide spectacle because of your Either two things, one of

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Speaker 3: two things happened.

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Speaker 2: Either this was.

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Speaker 3: Ideology that had taken over and had you know, blinded

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Speaker 3: them to reality or this is completing competence.

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Speaker 1: Well, doctor Ian Roberts is not a doctor. I'm watching

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Speaker 1: one of the UH immigration lawyers representing the Trump administration

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Speaker 1: who says, thirty years ago he was involved in drug dealing.

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Speaker 1: He was picked up illegally. He's from the nation of

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Speaker 1: Guyana in South America. Every part of his life is fake.

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Speaker 1: And now the Moine Board of Education is saying, well,

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Speaker 1: we hired this other company to do the proper investigation.

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Speaker 4: All it takes is a computer.

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Speaker 1: And Google to find out this guy doesn't does not

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Speaker 1: have a life at all other than as a trickster

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Speaker 1: and a hoaster. And when it was when the gig

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Speaker 1: was up, he ran in a car, parked the car

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Speaker 1: illegally in a field, ran to hide behind some bushes

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Speaker 1: and trees with a gun illegally, a knife illegally, and

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Speaker 1: with three thousand dollars in cash. And this is the

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Speaker 1: person the Liberal Democrats in Des Moines, Iowa wanted to

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Speaker 1: lead thirty thousand kids in the public school system. I

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Speaker 1: can imagine the results of the testing in that school

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Speaker 1: district with this guy in charge and one of the

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Speaker 1: scoreboard members wiped away tears as she spoke in Spanish

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Speaker 1: during the Tuesday night acceptance of his resignation. And the students,

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Speaker 1: how about this one, Ericasonzi, how about this one? There

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Speaker 1: were about fifteen or twenty students who walked out Wednesday

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Speaker 1: or Wednesday morning in protest. They were unhappy they lost

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Speaker 1: their good looking superintendent who fed all the DEI principles.

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Speaker 1: How about the students themselves saying we want him back?

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Speaker 3: Well again, this is another thing with that weaponization of

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Speaker 3: empathy right where you convince these kids that in order

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Speaker 3: to be a good person they have to stand up

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Speaker 3: for this guy. Now, I've worked in enough schools to

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Speaker 3: know most students don't know who they're superintendent. It is

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Speaker 3: even so if there was an overwhelming awareness of this

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Speaker 3: guy by students, that's also kind of strange. So the

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Speaker 3: fact that they would be and again you're going to

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Speaker 3: see these the parents who are protesting again why because

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Speaker 3: it's about these identity boxes. For them, he doesn't matter

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Speaker 3: what he did wrong. We've seen this so many times

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Speaker 3: over the past few years, that people will make excuses

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Speaker 3: and lower the bar if people's check off certain identity boxes.

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Speaker 3: And that's clearly what happened here, because it's all indefensible

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Speaker 3: no matter who he is. But again, but for some

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Speaker 3: of these people for whom this ideology has sort of,

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Speaker 3: like ye, broken their brains, they they're still kind of

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Speaker 3: clinging to the idea that he was the right guy

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Speaker 3: for the job.

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Speaker 1: Liberal females were encaptured with the way he appeared, had

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Speaker 1: the right had the right kind of hair, representation, always

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Speaker 1: looked great, represented very well.

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Speaker 4: It was all a fake and a front.

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Speaker 1: Before we talk about your column, which I think is

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Speaker 1: fabulous at OutKick, I want to talk briefly about Chicago,

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Speaker 1: and I'm reading a headline Chicago Teachers Union Moren's death

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Speaker 1: a convicted seventies cop killer and revolutionary, and this got

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Speaker 1: small strift in the mainstream media. But back in the

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventies, there was a woman who took the name

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Speaker 1: of Asada Shakur, literally convicted of killing a police officer.

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Speaker 1: His name was State Trooper New Jersey Warner Forster. And

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Speaker 1: she was convicted in nineteen seventy seven. No question she

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Speaker 1: did it. She was convicted, And somehow I must have

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Speaker 1: missed this one. Her band of renegades and revolutionaries broke

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Speaker 1: her out of a female state prison in New Jersey,

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Speaker 1: and she made her way to Cuba. And so for

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Speaker 1: the last time, almost fifty years, she's been living in Cuba,

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Speaker 1: and every president has tried to get her back because

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Speaker 1: he convicted, no questions, she killed a cop as a

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Speaker 1: revolutionary act. Well, she died about a week ago, and

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Speaker 1: the Chicago Teachers' Union mourns the death of convicted seventies

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Speaker 1: cop killer and revolutionary Asada Shakur. These are the teachers

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Speaker 1: in Chicago. This is a cop killer in Cuba. They said,

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Speaker 1: rest in power, rest in peace. Today we honor the

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Speaker 1: life and legacy of a revolutionary fighter, a fierce writer,

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Speaker 1: a revered elder, a black liberation and a leader of

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Speaker 1: freedom whose spirit continues to live in our struggle.

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Speaker 4: A saughta refused to be silence. She taught us so much.

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Speaker 4: So I'm reading this.

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Speaker 1: So last week Chicago teachers honored a cop killer as

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Speaker 1: a revolutionary.

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Speaker 4: Why isn't that a bigger deal?

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Speaker 3: So I saw a lot about this, but probably because

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Speaker 3: I was on X a lot, and I would say too, again,

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Speaker 3: it is important for listeners to know that the union.

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Speaker 5: Leadership is very radical.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the rank and file are much less so,

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Speaker 3: though the rank and file often are unaware of what

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Speaker 3: their leadership is doing and saying.

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Speaker 5: So but yeah, no, Well, we get to remember.

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Speaker 3: This is the same teachers union who also said that

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Speaker 3: anyone who wanted schools to reopen during the pandemic was

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Speaker 3: a racist and a misogynist, which actually and a white

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Speaker 3: supremacist I believe. So this this is one of the craziest,

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Speaker 3: most unhinged teachers' unions in the country. I am not

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Speaker 3: surprised that they came out and said that because that

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Speaker 3: is who they are, and they it literally makes me

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Speaker 3: think of like it like if we were going to

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Speaker 3: like ads a to be like wanting to honor Timothy McVay,

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Speaker 3: just something where you know, she in addition to killing

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Speaker 3: being a cop killer, I believe she was also a

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Speaker 3: bank robber.

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Speaker 4: Correct.

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Speaker 3: And the mayor of Chicago was asked about this now,

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Speaker 3: and he is also a total black job who used

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Speaker 3: to run this name this he used to run this union.

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Speaker 5: To give you a sense, I mean, it's just like he's.

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Speaker 3: Like a radical revolutionary type and uh, he didn't condemn what.

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Speaker 5: The union said.

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Speaker 3: He basically said that she what's the word I'm looking

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Speaker 3: for here. She proclaimed her innocence throughout, and he said that,

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Speaker 3: you know, when she was convicted, you couldn't get a

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Speaker 3: fair trial in this country if you were a person

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Speaker 3: of color. He said, so basically, he defended the union

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Speaker 3: by saying she's probably innocent because you couldn't get a

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Speaker 3: fair trial back then.

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Speaker 4: He's a victim, and so her revolutionary band broke her out.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 1: The reason I asked you on today is your is

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Speaker 1: your column and OutKick headline is teachers who delight in

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Speaker 1: murder and assassinations are unfit for the job. You go

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Speaker 1: on to write, millions of kids in this country love

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk saw him executed on livestream. You go on

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Speaker 1: to say that and that there's a question of fitness

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Speaker 1: for the job. And you have some of the quotes

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Speaker 1: of teachers and others. Quote another Nazi dead, rest in Urine,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk. You also the teachers have said, I've watched

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Speaker 1: the video over and over like fifty times, love every

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Speaker 1: fraction of a second of it. It gets better with

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Speaker 1: every watch. That's from a teacher. Quote, Yes I'm celebrating,

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Speaker 1: Yes I hope he rots Another one far right buttholes

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Speaker 1: have a target on their backs. One down, millions to go.

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Speaker 1: So these are teachers in the classroom celebrating and cold

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Speaker 1: blood the murder of Charlie Kirk. Explain that one to me.

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Speaker 3: So these are all quotations that I pulled from social

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Speaker 3: media platforms. So these were k through twelve teachers who

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Speaker 3: took to public platforms to celebrate this assassination. They were

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Speaker 3: not said in the classroom, they but they were put

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Speaker 3: out on a public platform in the immediate aftermass of

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Speaker 3: that murder. And again, like as I'm wearing my former

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Speaker 3: teacher hat and my parent hat, this is a question

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Speaker 3: of fitness. You're not fit for the role of to

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Speaker 3: be educating other people's children in a compulsory education system

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Speaker 3: if this is the way that you behave publicly for

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Speaker 3: political assassination. And to me, it doesn't matter who it

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter who is who gets killed. This behavior of

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Speaker 3: this behavior of delighting and murder is something that maybe

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Speaker 3: if my cashier at Wendy's, or my Amazon driver or

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Speaker 3: my mechanic, you know, if they do that and I

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Speaker 3: know about it, I can take my business elsewhere. But

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Speaker 3: that to me is totally different than the adults who

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Speaker 3: have custodial care of other people's children. And again I

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Speaker 3: have to say, like, this is a compulsory education system,

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Speaker 3: and we don't let parents choose. They have to send

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Speaker 3: their kids to a school that they're residentially assigned to

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Speaker 3: unless they have the means to make other arrangements. So

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Speaker 3: to say that kids are being forced back into classrooms

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Speaker 3: with adults who celebrated the murder of somebody that many

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Speaker 3: of these kids didn't just look up to and admire,

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Speaker 3: but he was like a daily part of their sort

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Speaker 3: of social media diet, and they saw him snuffed out

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Speaker 3: in an instant. And then they have to listen to

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Speaker 3: the teacher, you know, or they at least have to

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Speaker 3: know that their teacher thinks that's great.

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Speaker 4: And doctor Sanzi, I'm glad you had that delineating. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: I think you're mixing me up with doctor Ian Roberts.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 1: Erica Sanse of Defending Education and the columns and OutKick,

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Speaker 1: I want to say this, I'm against cancel culture that

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Speaker 1: we all have rights of freedom of expression, freedom of speech.

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Speaker 1: I draw the line if I'm ordering a meal at

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Speaker 1: a restaurant, if someone of postal workers. Someone like that

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00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: have doing ministerial functions of one type or another. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Okay, I can, but I don't want somebody

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Speaker 1: in charge of my health like that anesthesiologist from Miami,

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Speaker 1: Florida who went on another a woman by the way,

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Speaker 1: who talked about how happy she was that Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 1: is murdered. I don't want a college professor. I don't

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Speaker 1: want someone who's at teaching my kids in school with

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Speaker 1: these with this value system, some of the other cuts

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Speaker 1: that you have about teachers.

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Speaker 4: Quote.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe people are actually mourning this. I can't

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Speaker 1: use the word quote. Hearing that Charlie Kirk got shot

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Speaker 1: and died really brightened up my day. Another one said

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Speaker 1: I'm glad he's dead. Another one out of social media said,

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Speaker 1: what a piece of garbage. This is what happens. He

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Speaker 1: met his maker. But let's be very clear that maker

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Speaker 1: is not in heaven. Charlie Kirk is not in heaven.

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Speaker 1: He's in hell right now. That's from teachers on social media.

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Speaker 1: So explain again to the American people why this is

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Speaker 1: not cancel culture.

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Speaker 3: This is not cancel culture, because this is a question fitness,

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Speaker 3: for the job, and we as parents delegate the authority

865
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Speaker 3: to schools to serve in local parentes during the school day.

866
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 3: That means that these are people that are tasked with

867
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 3: educating other people's children. To me, behaving that way is

868
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 3: a sign that your moral compass is completely broken. And

869
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 3: if that broken moral compass is gonna you can't force

870
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 3: me to make my kids spend their time with somebody

871
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 3: look like that, because there's two reasons. One delighting and murder.

872
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 3: And by the way, a political assassination of somebody in

873
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 3: the midst of a debate on a college campus that

874
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 3: clearly is just qualifying, but so is the lack of judgment.

875
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 3: It takes two. Again. They didn't whisper this to their spouse,

876
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 3: they didn't like say this when they were out to

877
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 3: dinner with their friends. They put it on a public

878
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 3: platform for the world to see. So that tells me

879
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 3: that they just they lack any judgment or all judgment

880
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 3: required to be in that kind of a position with

881
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 3: other people's children. Because right now, like there are kind

882
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 3: of trapped half. I mean, when you look at middle

883
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 3: school and high school kids, especially boys, Charlie Kirk was,

884
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 3: they probably saw him on their phones every single day.

885
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 3: Many of them admired him, looked up to him, thought

886
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 3: he was relatable, thought he was able to say things

887
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 3: if they wish they could say, but they're afraid to say.

888
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 3: Liked his politics, so they liked him. Other people, it

889
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 3: wasn't politics. He was kind of a faith leader for them,

890
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 3: so they looked up to him for that reason. For

891
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 3: some kids, it was just finally a regular guy that

892
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 3: just like speaks the truth, whatever it was. They saw

893
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 3: his life extinguished right before their eyes. When we talk

894
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 3: about kid not having boys don't have role models, Boys

895
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 3: don't have role models, we literally watched one of them

896
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 3: be murdered in front of their eyes, and then their

897
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 3: teacher goes out and says that that's a good thing.

898
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 3: I mean, couldn't the kid wonder? The kid wondered, I

899
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 3: wonder if my teacher would be excited if I was killed.

900
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: We have to run.

901
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: But Erica Sonsey, defending education the columns and OutKick you

902
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: end up by saying parents should never be expected to

903
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 1: send their children back into a classroom with teachers whose

904
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 1: moral compass is so broken as they applaud the murder

905
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 1: of an innocent man. Once again, Erica Sonsey, it's been great.

906
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on and keep informing the American people

907
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: about what's happening in the classrooms.

908
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 4: And it's quite sad. Erica, thank you very much for

909
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 4: having me. God bless you. Let's continue. Let's continue. Bill

910
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 4: Cunningham seven hundred WLW.

911
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 6: Slaying and he muscles one the bets, he comes in,

912
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 6: makes the cat and that's all.

913
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 4: Reds fall eight.

914
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 2: To four the Dodgers, and the Red season comes to

915
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 2: a close in Game two of the National League Wild

916
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: Guard Series.

917
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 4: You better send those refunds. Hell, hello, bye, I'm broadcasting.

918
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: That was the young Joe Burrow after they beat the

919
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: Chiefs about to get those refunds.

920
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 7: Is he going to go to the game next, Wendy,

921
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 7: He might be playing. I don't know, but even that way,

922
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 7: have that issue.

923
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 4: Well, if Scott Sloan could do what he's doing now,

924
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow could be out there Sunday against the Lions.

925
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 4: Was back within three weeks? Wasn't he have the ten

926
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 4: and eight surgery? Get him back? Seg I read this story.

927
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: Issue hated his toes. Did you know that he's a

928
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: pain somewhere else? But that's a different issue. Good to

929
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: have Sloany back. Yes, according to this one column in

930
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: the Athletic Huh, the Reds in history have made more records.

931
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: According to this con columnist, no team in baseball histories

932
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: made the postseason without having a pitcher that won fifteen

933
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 1: games and had a pitcher any pitcher with one hundred

934
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: and seventy strikeouts.

935
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 4: None there.

936
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: The Singer got close at fourteen correct got close and hitting? Yeah,

937
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: the regular starters for the Reds, none of them have

938
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: a two to seventy batting average more than twenty two

939
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: home runs. Now you put that together. Don't have pitching,

940
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 1: don't have hitting, don't have power. How did the Reds

941
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: do what they did?

942
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 4: I guess by guts, gyles, guiles, luck and things just

943
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 4: falling their way in many of the games, I guess.

944
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 4: Can I give you an idea that you'll reject out

945
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 4: of hand?

946
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: You mean, in last night's game? Trade Honor Green? What

947
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: the Reds have him through twenty twenty nine at a

948
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: low number? Whoa watching him the last seple years? Don't

949
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: they have number forty four at that same time?

950
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 4: I think? So what if those two go or they will? Yeah?

951
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 4: You know, but if you trade him now? For if

952
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 4: that's if they play after twenty six, they.

953
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: May not play it in twenty seven rights, But at

954
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: this point, Hunter is Hunter Green, the second coming of

955
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: Jose Riho.

956
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 4: Jose blame it on ReHO. No, and he didn't go

957
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 4: to Steidberg's. The fact of the matter is, I know

958
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 4: that's Harris, but I say trade Lodolo and trade I

959
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 4: think you're gonna see some interesting moves.

960
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 6: I know.

961
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 4: The Cowboy made a comment last night during I guess

962
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 4: during the game after said that there's gonna be some

963
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 4: big probably some big changes made, which I mean, they're

964
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 4: gonna have to pony up. They're gonna have to pony

965
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 4: up and get a power hitter. That's all you got

966
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 4: to do. You're not going to get Swarbur. He's going

967
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 4: to stand on. Let's go get it.

968
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: They get him, They get him, bring him here, get

969
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 1: them both here. There's a there's a how many home

970
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: runs wild they hit in my ballpark? The Great American

971
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:36,720
Speaker 1: You mean Pete Pee Alonso?

972
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 4: Yeah? Many? How about Swarmber? How many would he hit?

973
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 4: Oh a hundred? He would he would uh he he

974
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 4: would redecorate the left field area of Great American ballpark'

975
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 4: he hit him off a Heritage Bank center with half

976
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 4: the games in a band. You know that he might

977
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 4: power might even hit him to the river, which means Pitzerland, Kayaks, Mississippi, No,

978
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 4: the high O River. They may be people in kayaks

979
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 4: getting the ball like they are in Oracle Park in

980
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 4: San Francisco. They think outside the box? Why not? Well,

981
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 4: I mean Adam Dunn hit one without the river boat

982
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 4: there and it ended up what like like No, it

983
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 4: ended up like what about a foot and by the

984
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 4: river because it got stopped by a piece of driftwood.

985
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 4: Get on the public landing and get alonzo. Does that

986
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 4: make sense?

987
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,439
Speaker 7: Well, then you're gonna and then you well, you're gonna

988
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 7: play with two guys. They might charge a lot of money.

989
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 7: Is that what you're saying?

990
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 4: Both are unrestricted free agents? What does that mean? As long?

991
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,959
Speaker 7: And I tell you one thing. If these guys walk

992
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 7: on in twenty seven, that is it. If there's a

993
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 7: striking twenty song with the.

994
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 4: Dough they're making. Now, the people you know what that's see?

995
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 7: You wouldn't would be will he The stood reporters of

996
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 7: Proud Service, every local Thamestar heating and air conditioning dealers

997
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 7: thamestar quality you could feel in northern Kentucky.

998
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 4: Call any weather heating at air at eight five nine

999
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 4: seventy eight one forty eight twenty two. Do you have hot?

1000
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 4: Do you have hope? Always? Like the Shawshank redemption? Will

1001
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 4: you want to thank Ron's Roost? Oh lack doesn't? He

1002
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 4: didn't know. Let's see Ron's Roost Restaurant and bar. The

1003
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 4: world's greatest fried chicken. Now Ron Junior bringing down our

1004
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 4: lunch today. I call him the Harry of the Empire.

1005
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 4: He's like Harry with Megan Markle sixty five years. They

1006
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 4: got the buffet Friday and Saturday thirty eight to fifty

1007
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 4: three Race Road at five seven four two two two.

1008
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 4: It's clucking good for got Ron's route.

1009
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: Seventeen dollars and ninety five cents for a buffet, which

1010
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: is unbelievable, And he has got to raise prices. What

1011
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: I get every week, you can't beat it with a stick.

1012
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: You can nut, salad, fruit, everything, chicken. Yeah, got sausage

1013
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: and sour kraut, mashed potates and gravy and worn Are

1014
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: you kidding me? For seventeen dollars and ninety five cents?

1015
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: Not bad when I was there on Saturday, had to

1016
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: wait forty five minutes for a table, and you were

1017
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: taking up a whole section.

1018
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 4: No, were I just walk in now?

1019
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 7: Really yeah, I didn't know that we get there early

1020
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 7: enough at four o'clock, I should say, I know, Olga, Well,

1021
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 7: you had one more time at Red's updated Yoshi Yadamoto

1022
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 7: had nine strikeouts and seven innings and the Dodgers breaking

1023
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 7: open last night eight to four.

1024
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 4: The season is over. A key moment was in the

1025
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 4: Red sixth trailing three to two, first three reach, then Yammoto, Yes,

1026
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 4: wiggles out of it, wiggles Austin, Austin Hayes a fielder's choice.

1027
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 4: Then out at home, then big salth Stewart call sal

1028
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 4: now and number forty four strikeout. See, you wouldn't want

1029
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 4: to be a strike out? Bad of a season? Did

1030
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 4: Dalla Cruz have the last half? The Lord half?

1031
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 7: Brutal and defensively? What had twenty five errors the last

1032
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 7: two years? She said, fifty errors? That's why they need

1033
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 7: to That's why. And that's one thing that the Reds

1034
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 7: had this year.

1035
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 2: No.

1036
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 7: Also, situational hitting none again, basis Jack twice? Nothing night?

1037
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 7: So up next here we go January Reds Fest. Here

1038
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,479
Speaker 7: we go, the first event at the new Convention Center.

1039
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 7: Here we go, Red Legs. Here we go Spring training

1040
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 7: in February.

1041
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 4: Opening day twenty twenty six against those Boston Red Sox

1042
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 4: on March the twenty sixth. The Red Sox and the Reds.

1043
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: You know, they were formed by almost the same group,

1044
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: the group that was in Cincinnati the late eighteen sixties

1045
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: made their way to Boston and they called themselves the

1046
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: Red Sox. They go to a local habidashery in eighteen

1047
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: sixty eight and the only color available was red because

1048
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: all the blue, the Union, the British all left it behind.

1049
00:58:58,960 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 4: Left it.

1050
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: And that's why the big came the Reds and they

1051
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: became the Red Stockings. Then the Red Sox became the

1052
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: Red Sox, having the Reds become the Red Stockings.

1053
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It is a one hundred

1054
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 4: and seventy five days until opening day.

1055
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: Well, what's the date again? March twenty six. March twenty

1056
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: six will be the Holy Grail. Will I make more

1057
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 1: predictions or not? Gotta comes up to you. You have

1058
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: to come to find out a.

1059
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 4: Lot of game threes today, winner go home games Cleveland

1060
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 4: and Detroit three o'clock, Padres and Cubbies at five, Red

1061
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 4: Sox and Yanks at eight. Well, I want the Red

1062
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 4: Sox to win because everything about New York I don't like. Well,

1063
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 4: I think if the Yankees lose today, Aaron Boone's gonna

1064
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 4: probably be they'll fire him within ten seconds. Bengals Update. Well,

1065
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 4: he brought to you by Good Spirits and Party Town

1066
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 4: thirteen locations in Northern Kentucky. Bengals and Lions Sunday four

1067
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1068
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1069
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,480
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1070
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Speaker 4: Wood six oh five and lancera rock right here on

1071
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Speaker 4: seven hundred WLW second.

1072
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: About twenty minutes, I have Brandon Sayhowe coming up from

1073
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,919
Speaker 1: Channel five. Yes, who at Channel five was his life

1074
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: was saved basically by George Vogel.

1075
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 4: He's doing a great job. Ye see.

1076
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: I like that guy because now and then you get depressed,

1077
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 1: don't you you getting Around the time I walk in

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Speaker 1: here with you, you get depressed. But dude becomes suicidal

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Speaker 1: at times.

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Speaker 4: One thing though, Willie we want to say congrats to

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01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 4: one of our own today. Who is it? Dave Yitti Armbrewster.

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01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 4: What his first hole in one in golf? Where was it?

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01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 4: It happened on whole number three West, one hundred and

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01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 4: thirty yards at beautiful glen View one hopping in according

1085
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 4: to his part playing partner, the Great Mike McConnell. What

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01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 4: clue I understand had ten pars Mike mc donald yesterday?

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Speaker 1: Did he put them all out? I got Jimmy's from

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01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 1: twenty feet. I don't know, I don't know, but yed

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Speaker 1: Man's got his first hole in one her Yidman, congratulations.

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01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 1: It sounds like a mental hospital glen View.

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Speaker 7: And then you know, and then you might might want

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01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 7: to invite them over to the friendly confines.

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Speaker 1: I've had one hole in one of my life. I

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01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: played golf since I was fifteen. Well, I've had one.

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01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: Yid's matched you. The legendary Bruce Roddy had fourteen holes

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01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: in one Jez fourteen. He shot his age one four

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01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: hundred and twelve times. Now, one other little fact for you.

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Speaker 1: The year before he died, Yes, he was seventy nine

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01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: years old. He shot fifteen strokes below his age on

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01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: ken View golf Course at Kenwood fifteen strokes below your

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01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: age and putted everything out fifteen strokes below your age.

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Speaker 1: Just contemplate that for a while. He shot sixty four

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01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: and he was seventy nine.

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Speaker 4: Was my partner? I took him as a partner. Would

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01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 4: you agree? Yes, you're my partner. Bruce. It's me Bruce Gardner.

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01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: And we were beat up on Tino and Wally beat

1107
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: him like a redheaded step child and a rented mule.

1108
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: And Bruce was the man seventy nine years old shoots

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01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: sixty four.

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Speaker 4: How about that?

1111
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 7: Say get me out of the Stude's report, please, Willie

1112
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 7: Nutter of the Reds of twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: Five, Brandon coming up, say we leave you with the

1114
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 4: immortal words of the Stooge report. I lost my mind?

1115
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 4: Who was that? I was heading? You'd lost his mind

1116
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 4: and lost his ball in the cup? On news Radio

1117
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 4: seven hundred w.

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Speaker 1: Let's continue now, Billy Cunning into Great America and one

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Speaker 1: of the great aspects of our human life, just the

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Speaker 1: mental side of things, which often dominates the physical side.

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01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: We spent in disproportionate amounts of money on physicality, lack

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01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: of resources, and a lot of condemnation of mental difficulties.

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Speaker 1: And one of the persons whose lives have crossed with

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Speaker 1: mine is Brandon Sajo, who began in Cincinnati as a sportscaster.

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01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: He kind of filtered away a little bit. He worked here,

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01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 1: worked with me a little bit, but then he shall

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01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: I use the term, resurface a few years later with

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Speaker 1: the Mental Game podcast headquartered in la and once again Brandon, soho,

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01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,

1130
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: Brandon described to the American people how our paths crossed.

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01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 4: At one point many years ago.

1132
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 5: I was a young cub at seven hundred doing the

1133
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 5: America's Trucking Network overnight and so I think I filled

1134
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 5: in maybe once or twice during your show and then

1135
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 5: the Sunday show. So I was just a little guy

1136
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 5: trying to figure out the media world.

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01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: And from that point you went to television, and then

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01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 1: after that something happened. You worked at local television stations

1139
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: here in Cincinnati.

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01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 4: What happened? What was the break in your life that

1141
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 4: changed it fundamentally?

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01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I had struggled with my mental health

1143
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 5: behind the scene since being you know, a freshman at

1144
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 5: LaSalle back in two thousand and seven and struggled with

1145
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 5: alcoholism and depression, suicidal thoughts off and on, and then

1146
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 5: got to this rock bottom during twenty twenty one. Look,

1147
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 5: you know it, we lose everything. So for the Bengals

1148
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 5: to go to the super Bowl and you see, to

1149
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 5: be in the playoffs, it was huge. But behind the scenes,

1150
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 5: I lost three family members. I lost my relationship, the

1151
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 5: woman I thought I was gonna marry. I had all

1152
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 5: this pressure on me at work and I had no

1153
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 5: other choice but to ask for help or I, you know,

1154
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 5: wouldn't be alive. And so thankfully I had the courage

1155
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 5: to do that. But man, I just thought alone didn't

1156
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 5: want to live anymore, And without asking for help, I'm

1157
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 5: probably not here having this conversation with you.

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01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 4: Man, well as alcohol is a medicine for you.

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01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was, like I call it the pain. You know,

1160
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 5: I lost, you know, my grandpa to addiction. Never met him.

1161
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 5: He was you know, passed before I was born. My

1162
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 5: dad was an alcoholic. I just, yeah, something that I

1163
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 5: turned to. I call it autopilot. You know, I think

1164
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 5: you can joke. I love I love all the places

1165
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 5: down things, but you can joke with a lot of

1166
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 5: those people down there. It would see me until three

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01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 5: or four in the morning, five nights a week, my

1168
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 5: entire in Cincinnati. It's really sad to look back at.

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01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: So you were in a dark, lonely place, no one

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01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: to turn to. Alcohol was like a bottle, it was

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01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 1: like a crutch, It was like a medicine. You were

1172
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 1: severely or mentally depressed. How close were you to suicide?

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Speaker 5: I mean that that that walked home almost every night

1174
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 5: to where I lived in Covington, on the Rubling Bridge.

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01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 5: I mean I sat there fifty to seventy five nights

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01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 5: thinking about you know, and in it. I had many

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Speaker 5: nights of I mean I wrote by letter, I had

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01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 5: a lot of you know, Willie. If I didn't have

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01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 5: the courage to talk to my mom that night, the

1180
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 5: final night on that bridge, I probably go so yeah,

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Speaker 5: I was. I was as close as it gets.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 5: I haven't told this story really at all. There was

1184
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 5: a night that I was calling people to say goodbye,

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01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 5: and the first person I called was George Vogel, and

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01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 5: God bless him. He came to my house at two am,

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01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 5: that was me in my living room and talked me

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01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 5: kind of off that ledge. I will preface it with

1189
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 5: being the good man that he is. He saw a

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01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 5: bottle bottle of bourbon across the hall on my bar

1191
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 5: and said, hey, can I have a sip while I

1192
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 5: sit here and listen to you? And I said absolutely.

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01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 5: It's hard for me to laugh about this stuff sometimes

1194
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 5: looking back, but you know, yeah, I was at I

1195
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 5: was at rock bottom and I didn't want to be

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01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 5: here anymore. Man. I'm about as close as you can get,

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01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 5: and I thank God every day that I'm still alive.

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Speaker 1: You were working on Channel five with SRI and with

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01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: others since, so at this point, what were the pressures

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01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: that you felt that you could not deal? Many can

1201
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 1: shed them like water hitting the ducks back others it

1202
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: soaks in. What did you perceive as the problems in

1203
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 1: your mind? Brendon say he that that we're on that

1204
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 1: were insurmountable.

1205
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 5: I think for me, the biggest thing was feeling alone.

1206
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 3: You know it.

1207
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Speaker 5: Growing up in Cincinnati, the most common thing that people

1208
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 5: do is, uh, marry their high school sweetheart, had the

1209
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 5: perfect house, stay on the east side or west side,

1210
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 5: and live a happy life. And you know, that's what

1211
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 5: I wanted, and it wasn't what I had. You know,

1212
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 5: I was single a lot of my life dealing with

1213
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 5: some relationships stuff, and you know that that breakup in

1214
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 5: that moment, along with losing you know, family members, including

1215
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 5: my cousin Ben, who had a heart attack at thirty one.

1216
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 5: He's basically my older brother. But I think the relationship crawling,

1217
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 5: you know, falling apart, that's what got me the most.

1218
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 5: And I felt like, as a man, you know, I'm

1219
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 5: supposed to be married and be a father one day,

1220
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 5: and I want to find this stuff and what is

1221
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 5: wrong with me? Why get it? And so yeah that

1222
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 5: I thought I'd always be alone. And yeah, it just

1223
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 5: made me feel like I wasn't good enough for anyone,

1224
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 5: even myself.

1225
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 1: You know, men aren't supposed to cry, and men aren't

1226
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 1: supposed to show emotion, and men are supposed to be

1227
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: harry s alphas. And when things don't turn out that way,

1228
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: some sink into a bottle, some sink into drugs, and

1229
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: you eventually checked into a mental hospital.

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01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 4: Is that correct?

1231
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 5: Yeah? The Lender Center of Hope and Mason, which has

1232
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 5: saved my life in so many lives people, not just

1233
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,600
Speaker 5: in Ohio but all across the country. It really is

1234
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 5: an amazing place.

1235
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Speaker 4: What happened there.

1236
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 5: So I don't know about you, Willy, I'm gonna guess

1237
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 5: that you had the same concept of a mental hospital

1238
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 5: that I did as a psych ward. Where they throw

1239
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 5: someone in a white, padded room and they cry for

1240
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 5: hours and then when they're done crying, they're all better

1241
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 5: and they go home. That's not what it is at all.

1242
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 5: I would say about ten to fifteen percent of the

1243
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 5: time with one on one therapy with my therapist or

1244
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 5: a psychiatrist, but you know, percent as the time with

1245
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 5: a classroom, just like you know we had in high

1246
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 5: school with twenty to twenty five people eighteen to eighty

1247
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 5: years old, every color, creed, job background. We just had

1248
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 5: this one thing in common. We didn't want to live anymore.

1249
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 5: Get help. And that was the first time I realized

1250
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 5: I wasn't alone. And it was the first time that

1251
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 5: I learned what grief was and how to deal with

1252
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 5: these intrusive thoughts, and what to look for and how

1253
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 5: to cope and what's healthy and unhealthy. That obviously alcohol

1254
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 5: is going to hurt me, But how do I open

1255
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 5: up to someone and being a man, I mean, I

1256
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 5: know we can't say the word on the radio, but

1257
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 5: I'll never forget one of these, you know, therapists teaching

1258
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 5: these sessions, going Brandon, why aren't you opened up? Wy

1259
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 5: aren't you telling your story? And I said, well, as

1260
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:46,719
Speaker 5: a man, I've always just been kind of a blank,

1261
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 5: you know the B word. I've always been weak. I've

1262
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 5: been emotional as a man. And she stopped me right

1263
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 5: there and she said, you know what, that's the problem

1264
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 5: with the stigma with mental health, but specifically men's mental health,

1265
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 5: and you're not that. And that's what starting to have

1266
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:03,679
Speaker 5: those conversations with the other men in the room, that's

1267
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 5: what opened the door for me to get help. But

1268
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,560
Speaker 5: just learning things that I had never learned before, like

1269
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,919
Speaker 5: you know, recognizing when you're struggling, when you're not being yourself,

1270
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 5: that's a huge red site.

1271
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 3: Really.

1272
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 5: My job, similar to yours, was to interview these big

1273
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 5: stars and to be on the field with Burrow and

1274
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 5: Chase and be on TV every day, living out that

1275
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 5: dream job I had, you know, in my hometown. I

1276
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 5: hated my job all of a sudden, and it wasn't

1277
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 5: because of Channel five. It's because of my mental health. Struggled.

1278
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 5: I hated working out. I was sleeping into one in

1279
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 5: the afternoon. I was drunker than a skunk every night.

1280
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 5: I mean, I wasn't being myself, and so those things

1281
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 5: add up and you get in a point where that's

1282
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 5: all I knew to do was to ask for help.

1283
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:45,600
Speaker 1: But for Lender Center, but for your mother, but for

1284
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: George Fogel, you'd be at the bottom of the Ohio River.

1285
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 5: I think, so, man, that's a that's a tough way

1286
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 5: to ask it. I uh, I'm thinking, I'm you know,

1287
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 5: I'm a visual storyteller. So yeah, I think, yeah. You

1288
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 5: know what's crazy about that is that we are a

1289
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 5: voting family and my mom didn't know any of this stuff,

1290
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Speaker 5: and we would always anchor next to the Roebling to

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01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 5: watch and you know, the fireworks for Red games, or

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01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 5: to hang out on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon, and

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01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 5: so yeah, I think of you know what's tough too,

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01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 5: I think a Tom Greshen. I think a guy that

1295
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 5: we lost like him, Corey Cunningham. We went to UC

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01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 5: with me, played football for the Giants. We lost him

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01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 5: last year. And because people were scared to open up

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01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:31,560
Speaker 5: and they thought that this was the end of the

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01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 5: world and they were always going to feel these feelings

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Speaker 5: so I'm one of the lucky ones man, and it's

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01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 5: been Yeah, I don't know what would have happened, but

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Speaker 5: I don't think I would have been a lot.

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Speaker 4: Friend.

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Speaker 1: Say, how long were you at the Lender Center and

1305
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: how did your journey go from there in Mason to

1306
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,520
Speaker 1: Los Angeles with your podcast, explain.

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01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 5: That, Yeah, I was there for two weeks, and you know,

1308
01:11:56,560 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 5: care ranges between what your needs are, how you're ruggling.

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01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 5: I was in the partial hospitalization program, so I basically

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01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 5: went to the hospital every day like kind of like

1311
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 5: a nine to five job. And because I wasn't, you know,

1312
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 5: maybe in a spot where they thought I could harm

1313
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 5: myself at home, I was able to go home every night.

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Speaker 5: But it was the first time really that like I

1315
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 5: got to focus on me. I don't have to worry

1316
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 5: about work. And Channel five was amazing with their support

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01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 5: my coworkers you mentioned Shari and George, but also the

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01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 5: people up top that like really let me have that

1319
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 5: time off. And so when I got back to work,

1320
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 5: I realized I didn't have that same passion for mental

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01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 5: health or for sports supporting anymore. I had this new

1322
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 5: passion for mental health, and I texted my boy Sam

1323
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 5: Hubbard and said, hey, can I try this idea out

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Speaker 5: with you? And he ended up becoming the first guest.

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Speaker 5: And without Sam, none of this as possible. And man,

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Speaker 5: it started. You know how it is, you get some

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01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 5: nos from people you want to interview, or from agents

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01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 5: or managers or people behind the scenes that are controlling

1329
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 5: the narratives, and I just kept taking no eventually started

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01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 5: getting more yeses with people like Ricky Williams or Kate

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01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 5: Flannery from the office, and it's built where I never

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01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:07,719
Speaker 5: thought in a million years I'd live in Los Angeles

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01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 5: and be able to share these stories to some of

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01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 5: the biggest stars like Terry Crews or Kirk kurb Street

1335
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 5: or whoever you pick. And my goal, man is not

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01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,560
Speaker 5: to get like famous and to not be bigger than Cincinnati.

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01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 5: Cincinnati made me who I am and I'm going to

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01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 5: the Reds game, you know, when they were in town

1339
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 5: doing this series this week. It's like, I love Cynthy

1340
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 5: and they support me so much. But the more we

1341
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 5: can grow, the more we can save lives and help people.

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01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 5: So it's been quite the journey. It's my favorite thing,

1343
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 5: man is I get to go to schools, I go

1344
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 5: to I was just at LaSalle High School, my alma mater,

1345
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 5: last week, sharing my story and it broke my heart

1346
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 5: that we lost someone to suicide Jonah last year. Sarah Lease,

1347
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 5: you're a good friend. It's her cousin and I got to,

1348
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:54,560
Speaker 5: you know, talk with them and their family. And my

1349
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 5: goal is to save lives. The chance that I get

1350
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 5: to now because of a podcast, go to schools, go

1351
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 5: to company, just shoot you know. Joe Burrow's parents helped

1352
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 5: me bring thousand of the people to an arena at

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01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 5: LSU to talk about mental health. I never thought this

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01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 5: would be it, but man, it's a special purpose that

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01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 5: I found through that struggle and a brand.

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Speaker 1: I've seen you in arenas with ten thousand people, and

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01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 1: the good you have done is really unbridled. You could

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01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 1: not have imagined when you were a line producer here

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01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 1: with me that you would be in ten years filling

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01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 1: up arenas at LSU. That would be impossible. In my life,

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01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,640
Speaker 1: I can recall going to Longview State Mental Hospital. My

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01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 1: father's brother, his name was Bob, and we'd go maybe

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01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 1: four or five times a year to visit him a

1364
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 1: Longview State Mental Hospital. I believe he was there most

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01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,600
Speaker 1: of his life. They and he never got out of

1366
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: the mental hospital. And from that I was scared to

1367
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 1: death of eventually getting into an orphanage because my father

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01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 1: is alcoholism.

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Speaker 4: The fact we had nowhere to go. When I was

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01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 4: a little boy, my mom hooked me up.

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Speaker 1: We hooked up with my mo sister and her name

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01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 1: was Annette arling House, and I could not imagine what

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01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 1: would have happened to us in Deer Park, A young

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01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: mother with four kids and the father's an alcoholic. He's gone,

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01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:15,600
Speaker 1: never came back again except for my beloved aunt and

1376
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 1: at arling House, we all moved in with her. So

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01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 1: living in one house was their mother, another sister, my mother,

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01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 1: a Nette. That's four here comes four more kids. And

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01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 1: I was scared to death. That's something what happened to me,

1380
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: that I'd end up in an orphanage or ending up

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01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 1: in a mental hospital. And so when I got my

1382
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 1: law degree, the first thing I wanted to do was

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01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 1: work with mental health. So I spent years down in

1384
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 1: the Hamlin the County Probate Court, handling mental health hearings

1385
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 1: to help individuals with mental problems that did not have

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01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 1: to be institutionalized. Now there's been a metamorphosis with treatments.

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01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 1: Are you aware of the last how this was dealt with, say,

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01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: thirty to forty years ago, as compared as being dealt

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01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 1: with today, Are you a word the journey that's been

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01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:03,639
Speaker 1: made and how far we've come yet how far.

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Speaker 3: We have to go?

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Speaker 5: Yes, and one, thank you for having that personal vulnerability

1393
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 5: on air right now, but also the work that you've

1394
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 5: done that to help change that stigma, to break it

1395
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 5: not just by words but also by actions. I think

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01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 5: I have seen it change, you know, I've My mom,

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01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 5: for instance, was on medication and therapy for fifteen years.

1398
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 5: I didn't learn any of that stuff until I told

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01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 5: her I was suicidal three years ago because we didn't

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01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,640
Speaker 5: talk about this stuff. My father lost his father in

1401
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 5: his twenties. We didn't talk about any of those emotions

1402
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 5: because he was tossed, never unpack it. So it's completely changed.

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01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 5: I want to make sure I say this where you

1404
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 5: can have all of the amazing support from your family, friends, therapist,

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01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,799
Speaker 5: anyone that wants to help you. But if that person

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01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 5: in the mirror doesn't want to make that change, isn't

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01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 5: willing to ask for help and be vulnerable and shed

1408
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 5: those tears and be emotional, especially as a man. It's

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01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 5: never going to change. And so I've lost, Like I

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01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 5: mentioned Corey, I've lost my friend Mike. I can go

1411
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 5: into my phone and show you messages from these guys

1412
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 5: telling me how much they loved what I was doing

1413
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 5: with mental health and how you know they want me

1414
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 5: to check in or they would check in on me.

1415
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 5: I was blindsided by it, man, And so I've got

1416
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 5: two friends to suicide since becoming the mental health guy.

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01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 5: So if it can happen to me, it can happen

1418
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 5: to anyone. But at the end of the day, that

1419
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:29,799
Speaker 5: person in the mirror has to want to make that change.

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01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 4: How are you doing now? Is it over?

1421
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 1: Is an ongoing struggle? Have you put it away in

1422
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 1: a safe and locked it and never getting out again?

1423
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 1: Does a monster of mental health still stalk you a

1424
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 1: little bit?

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01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 5: I would say that my life. I'll tell you this willly.

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01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 2: I am.

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01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 5: I love myself and I'm happy with myself for the

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01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 5: first time ever in my life over the past year

1429
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 5: and a half. So I don't think I'll ever get

1430
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 5: to that rock bottom again. But mental health isn't a

1431
01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 5: fight you in. It's a fight that you battle. So

1432
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 5: there's days that might be tougher than others. But I

1433
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 5: really don't think I'll get back down to that past.

1434
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 5: But that's because I went to therapy. I still go

1435
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:12,879
Speaker 5: to therapy. I learned those things in the hospital in Mason,

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01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 5: and so yeah, I think I'm happy, Like genuinely, I

1437
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 5: am okay on my own being alone. Do I still

1438
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 5: dream of one day having a wife and kids and

1439
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,679
Speaker 5: maybe moving back to Cincinnati and living out that dream

1440
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 5: that I wanted since I was that weird, romanticized fourteen

1441
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 5: year old freshman seeing everyone else dates, you know, our

1442
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 5: high school sweethearts, you know in Cincinnati. Yes, but that's

1443
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 5: not what's making me depressed every second of every day

1444
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 5: because I don't have that partner or I don't have

1445
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 5: that family. That's the big difference for me. I really

1446
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:48,680
Speaker 5: really do feel like I'm in the best place, and

1447
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 5: it's because I'm serving a purpose, you know, I'm you know,

1448
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 5: I grew up, you know, with a dream to be

1449
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 5: a sports supporter. But at the end of the day,

1450
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 5: I want to just tell stories and help people, and

1451
01:18:57,800 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm doing that the best way I

1452
01:18:59,400 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 5: know how to.

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01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 1: You know, I told you off the air, Brandon I'm

1454
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 1: glad you found your life's work. I think what sportscasters

1455
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 1: do is very important. No problem there with Charlie Clifford

1456
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 1: and others, no difficulty get about it. But that's not

1457
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 1: for everyone. And one of the great things in life

1458
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 1: is to have individuals like Brandon Sajo who realized, look,

1459
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 1: of course I'm on, it's not the one for me.

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01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 1: And I'm so glad you didn't jump off that bridge.

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01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 1: I'm glad George Vogel was there. I'm glad your mother

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01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 1: was there. And now for those who want to get involved,

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01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 1: it's The Mental Game podcast by Brandon Sajo. As like

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01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 1: in sam Aho, you've been out of the media in

1465
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 1: this town for about five or six years, but you're

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01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 1: not out of our hearts because we remember at the

1467
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:44,719
Speaker 1: time you were struggling. And I'm so glad you found

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01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 1: the good place. And Brandon Sajo, You're always welcome here.

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01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 1: And if you ever come back to this market and

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01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 1: want to do something publicly, you have my phone number.

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01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 1: Let's work together, and may God bless you and God

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01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 1: bless America. Brandon Sajo, thank you for the man that

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01:19:59,000 --> 01:19:59,639
Speaker 1: you are today.

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01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,759
Speaker 5: Thank you so much. WILLI and just don't worry. Everyone

1475
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 5: can get help. You're not alone.

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01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 4: Thank you all right, Brandon, thank you very much.

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01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 1: Let's continue with more news coming up at your home

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01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 1: of the Reds and Bengals, News Radio seven hundred w AT.

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Speaker 4: There's still tomorrow. Don't give up, not yet, be hopeful,

1480
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 4: be happy, there's still tomorrow. Don't give up, never give up.

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01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 3: No no, no, I won't get up. No no, no

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01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 3: up you you I don't get out no no.

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01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 5: Oh hello bye, I'm broadcasting.

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01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:54,599
Speaker 4: Rocky. Was that was Tom Brennan, you know, saying don't

1485
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 4: give up, never give up?

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01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 6: No no no.

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01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 4: I put that in because I thought it was.

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01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 1: Can I Critisancona a little bit? The first game of

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01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: the seventh inning, you got Hayes coming up to bat,

1490
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 1: who doesn't hit it all a third basement, and and

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01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:10,719
Speaker 1: you got Sal on the bench.

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01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 4: Just call Sal. He didn't do that. Of course, Hayes

1493
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 4: does nothing.

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01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 1: And then last night he gets three RBIs and and

1495
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 1: last and and the next inning of the first game,

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01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: that's the position Sal would have been up in with

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01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: the bases loaded. Of course Hayes did nothing, So the

1498
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 1: team lacks offense. And then pitching wise, you left in

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01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 1: the bullpench Shall we say Abbott at all?

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01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 4: Who were ready to go? Last night?

1501
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 1: Was for your life three to two bringing Martinez and

1502
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 1: you got hammers ready to go, you then use them?

1503
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 1: Am I right to criticize Tito Francona? I think you

1504
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:47,600
Speaker 1: can certainly make the argument you put Abbott in and

1505
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 1: you go for broke.

1506
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, go for broke. There's no tomorrow. And didn't do it,

1507
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 4: that's for sure. And now there, now there. But Abbitt's

1508
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 4: ready to go tonight?

1509
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 5: Right?

1510
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 4: What about Ellie? In a big moment once again?

1511
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 1: Collapse and he belongs in right field, center field, left field,

1512
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 1: but he's not What was his stats the last half

1513
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 1: of the year?

1514
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 4: Bad that the Reds were eighty the last half of

1515
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 4: the year a night, but he was on the All

1516
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 4: Star team. Great number. But that's the thing.

1517
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 7: I bet you if you walk down the Fountain Square

1518
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 7: right now and said what kind of years Ellie having,

1519
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 7: I bet everyone's, oh my god, he's having an amazing year.

1520
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:25,759
Speaker 7: There's like the thought and the feeling for whatever reason

1521
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 7: is he's playing amazing brand of baseball and he's not.

1522
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 4: He's an exciting player on the right.

1523
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:36,640
Speaker 1: Second half the year, hit two ten second half the year,

1524
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 1: hit three home runs. Second half of the year, he

1525
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 1: had more errors than home runs. Is that good or bad?

1526
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 4: It's not good?

1527
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 2: So can now.

1528
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 1: Jeff Brantley said it in the post game. I'm listening

1529
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 1: at one fifteen am this morning when Jeff Brandley said

1530
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: there's got to be big changes in this ball club.

1531
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 4: Hunter Green gone get him out? You agree, or just

1532
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 4: get him out?

1533
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 7: He's just don't think he's just don't think he's a

1534
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 7: hammer in terms of like on the mound in the

1535
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 7: locker room. No nonsense, no bs, we needed one of

1536
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,560
Speaker 7: those presents like that, and that's not Hunter Green or

1537
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 7: is no we.

1538
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 4: Need Greg Vaughan Dave. Who's the enforcer in that locker room?

1539
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:14,719
Speaker 4: Who's the enforcer?

1540
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 7: Who's the guy at every locker room I played in,

1541
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 7: there was a guy that was like, okay, when things

1542
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 7: got a little squirrely, laid it down.

1543
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 4: What was it like when Parkway was in the locker

1544
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 4: room and things are going south? Six foot eight, you're

1545
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 4: gonna ask You're gonna ask you to make him bad.

1546
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 7: Say what happened when you went up to me after

1547
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:34,599
Speaker 7: the game and asked him what happened? Why he went

1548
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 7: for four in the night.

1549
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 4: What what what happened? And asked that question what happened?

1550
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:42,719
Speaker 4: And then he looked down at you hooked down.

1551
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 7: He would he would, he would reach down and pick

1552
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 7: me up by by by just grabbed me by my

1553
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 7: skull and then put me back down again.

1554
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 4: Sorry. I want to ask, what changes do you make

1555
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:55,719
Speaker 4: rocking the Reds? Because I have hope for this ball club.

1556
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 4: I have hope. We need a veteran presence that is

1557
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 4: a con assistant hit.

1558
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 1: Her power Philadelphia. They need power power Middletown, Ohio powered.

1559
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 4: This is a right.

1560
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 7: There's supposed to be a ballpark where you can hit

1561
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 7: a lot of runs. So let's get a guy that

1562
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:12,639
Speaker 7: can hit a lot of home runs.

1563
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 4: How about that idea?

1564
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 7: Is a veteran guy that's you know, has some experience

1565
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 7: and those what it takes set man.

1566
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 1: We need a hairy as man. Pete Alonzo, Well, he's

1567
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 1: he's available? So Orburg is he available?

1568
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 7: I don't know yet, we don't know. I think he'll

1569
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 7: be available. I mean, is he gonna stick with if

1570
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 7: Philly's win it all? You think he's gonna come here? Yes,

1571
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 7: he wants to come here, doesn't he? I guess he

1572
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 7: wants to.

1573
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 4: If he comes here, he will remodel third base, left

1574
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 4: field by himself. How many home runs?

1575
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 1: We didn't have one guy hit twenty three home runs

1576
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 1: or more this year in a bandbox. Nope, And he

1577
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 1: didn't steal bases.

1578
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:49,759
Speaker 7: Remember last year, I know we talked about this yesterday

1579
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 7: that that was the thing that I can't understand from

1580
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:52,680
Speaker 7: last year to this year.

1581
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:54,799
Speaker 4: Why why not ceiling?

1582
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 7: How do you go first, second, third, Because if you

1583
01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 7: if you're not manufacturing power, you got to find a

1584
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 7: way to get you know, scoring position to turn a

1585
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 7: single into a double.

1586
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 1: Eighty five RBIs or more. No one hit them. So

1587
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 1: we had a team without pitching, without power. We didn't

1588
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 1: steal bases. How did they get to the playoffs?

1589
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 5: Say?

1590
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 4: How did they get there? They lost? They got the

1591
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 4: Mets lost, Yeah, the Mets.

1592
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 1: One thing I'm going to remember about this year is

1593
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:25,679
Speaker 1: the locker room celebration in Milwaukee.

1594
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 4: I'll remember that over everything.

1595
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 7: I've taken a lot of flak because I was against that.

1596
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 7: I didn't think it was a great look. I understand,

1597
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 7: you win your first playoff series since ninety five. Okay, champagne,

1598
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 7: let's pop some bottles, But you kind of eke your

1599
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 7: way in. I think you get the.

1600
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 4: Shirts, you high five, you celebrate a little bit, but

1601
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 4: it was a little much.

1602
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:52,679
Speaker 1: It ended the season much, and the reds Now lost

1603
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 1: eight playoff games in a row going back to twenty twelve.

1604
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 1: They lost, you know, the last three twenty thirteen to

1605
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 1: one twenty. They have the longest history of no playoff

1606
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 1: winning of any team in baseball.

1607
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:07,640
Speaker 7: Correct, since nineteen ninety five winning a playoff series. I

1608
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 7: was fifteen, fifteen just started as scenes over your high school.

1609
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 3: You were.

1610
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 4: How old were you? You were fifteen? You've spent your

1611
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 4: fun knife waiting for next year? Right, little Rock may

1612
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 4: spend his life waiting for next year, haven't we all?

1613
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:21,720
Speaker 6: Yes?

1614
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, nineteen ninety five was glory? Would you agree? Los

1615
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:28,879
Speaker 1: Angeles Dianomo sweep the Dodgers.

1616
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 4: I say, put the cowboy in that locker row at

1617
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 4: going Nuts and Chavez Ravine.

1618
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 1: You thought the celebration Sunday night was overblown? You're catching

1619
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 1: flight for that rock up, stand up, stand up.

1620
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 4: I didn't love it. I didn't love it.

1621
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 7: I love it.

1622
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 1: Well, they'd accomplished something. They actually Okay, we've won the

1623
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 1: whole thing, right, No, we got to India. You gotta

1624
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:52,799
Speaker 1: play in forty eight hours and they they got hammered twice.

1625
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 7: Seg, go ahead, will leave the stude reporters of proud

1626
01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 7: service of your local temp Star Heating.

1627
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 4: They're conditioning dealers. Tame star quality.

1628
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 7: You could feel a beautiful Northern Kentucky called Johnson Heating

1629
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:08,680
Speaker 7: and Coolie at eight five, nine, four, seven to two

1630
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 7: sixty fifty one spots.

1631
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 4: Let's see Bengals update. Well, he brought to you by

1632
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:17,839
Speaker 4: Good Spirits and Party Town, but thirteen locations in northern Kentucky.

1633
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 4: Bengals are on the field this afternoon, getting ready for

1634
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 4: those Lions Sunday in a four to twenty five kickoff.

1635
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 4: Break it down, pay Course Stadium, Downtown break He's going

1636
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:29,919
Speaker 4: to break it down tonight tonight and Richwood Richwood, Richwood,

1637
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 4: Lance and I I'll preview the show. Lance and I

1638
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 4: are going to delve into what what is the core issue?

1639
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 4: What is the issue? What is the issue?

1640
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 7: Is it is the lack of preparation? Is it the

1641
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 7: lack of game plan? Is it the lack of run game?

1642
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:44,719
Speaker 7: Is it the lack of leadership presence?

1643
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, break it down? What about hammertal Itch? Could that

1644
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 4: be a problem. Add that to the list. Just you

1645
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:51,760
Speaker 4: gotta break it down town.

1646
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 7: I want to know it's we got wait till six

1647
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:56,440
Speaker 7: o'clock's gonna break it down. And Richwood on the Cincinnati

1648
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 7: on the Cincinnati Tax Resolution powered by TOAF, I got

1649
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 7: the Round Table Show presented by Postman Long Live from

1650
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:04,679
Speaker 7: Long Knicks and rich Wood.

1651
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 1: You'll be there you And I'm listening to Lance this

1652
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 1: morning at a I was listening. There was a three

1653
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 1: minute break with nothing. We were off the air, which

1654
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 1: is quite often at three three minutes of nothingness. Then

1655
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,560
Speaker 1: all in mid sentence, Lance comes on. I said, this

1656
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 1: is good. I listened to Lance. Did you listen at

1657
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 1: one fifteen hours?

1658
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 4: I did not.

1659
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 3: I was.

1660
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:31,679
Speaker 4: Second night, but listening to get McAllister at one fifteen

1661
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 4: this morning. Did he get calls? Yes? And one from

1662
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 4: Independence had another call from Cole Rain. You should have

1663
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 4: called in. I should have called in called I get

1664
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 4: my perspective on what happened? What did happen? How about

1665
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 4: Monday night, Tuesday night, Wednesday? Cincinnati dominates the national airwaves.

1666
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 4: We send our best out there.

1667
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 7: I hope the bank wass can at least play well.

1668
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 7: It's a ten and a half point spread and all

1669
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,639
Speaker 7: the all the money's taking the taking the line.

1670
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 4: Still can the lion beat a tiger? That's what I

1671
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 4: don't know. I think tigers are bigger than lions. I'm

1672
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 4: not sure. Maybe they can turn it around, turn it around,

1673
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 4: I hope. I'm hoping.

1674
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 1: Then after this, go to Green Bay and take the

1675
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 1: Packers down right, yeah, and come backers star.

1676
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 4: That's gonna Wouldn't that be something? That'd be something? Sure

1677
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 4: would be something.

1678
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 1: How many times have the Bengals with Joe Burrow been

1679
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 1: a double digit dog at home?

1680
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 7: None?

1681
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 4: I can't remember. Rock, You and last have a lot

1682
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 4: of work to do. We will break it all down

1683
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 4: from here. This morning it was he at home? Where

1684
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 4: was he? Believe he was here here? Get one of

1685
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 4: those comrexes. Do him from your house?

1686
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 3: You know?

1687
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 7: And I think you wanted to come in and wanted

1688
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 7: talking to the American people. As expressed, I.

1689
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 4: Was listening, I gonna go to sleep till two or three.

1690
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 4: I was listening. How do you not go to sleep

1691
01:29:57,720 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 4: till two or three? I don't know. My mind is this.

1692
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 4: I need some CBD, I need some I need some gummies.

1693
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 1: I need something because I I go up about one

1694
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:07,680
Speaker 1: one fifteen, but I can't sleep till three or four.

1695
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 1: My mind's too active. Stuff's going on, Things are happening

1696
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 1: in there all the time. Y'all to join me in

1697
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 1: my mind, Like at two o'clock in the morning.

1698
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 7: My mind's whipping around too. I go to sleep pretty early,

1699
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:19,680
Speaker 7: but then I'm up early, so I'm waking up at

1700
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 7: that time.

1701
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 4: You didn't hear Lance at one fifteen? Am you crazy?

1702
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:25,680
Speaker 4: I'm sleeping? It was Jeth throw from indiapad. I heard

1703
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 4: from Lance enough. I bet you have, But today we

1704
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 4: get more of Lance six to nine? Correct, right with?

1705
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 4: So you're on from Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana.

1706
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 7: We clipped Tennessee on the on the last stretch the

1707
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 7: red foot Yah back to outside of Nashville, back to Atlanta.

1708
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 4: I should just I should just be an airport hotel.

1709
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 3: Save me.

1710
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:52,599
Speaker 7: It's probably about you, knows right.

1711
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:56,639
Speaker 1: Kentucky, Indiana back to home and from there Indiana back

1712
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:59,680
Speaker 1: to CBG, and from CBG to Atlanta, from Atlanta to

1713
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:03,439
Speaker 1: memph now from Memphis back to Atlanta, Atlanta back to ZBG,

1714
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 1: then back to back to home.

1715
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 4: That's my travel this weekend. So your reaction give me

1716
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 4: some more signed up for the big that's it, you know,

1717
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 4: give me some more sports going on. That's like my

1718
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:17,680
Speaker 4: New York days right now.

1719
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 1: I'd at three oh six, I leave here, drive quickly

1720
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 1: four to ten to Legordy.

1721
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:25,799
Speaker 4: You get there just in time. I go through TSA

1722
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:28,680
Speaker 4: four ten, get in Land about five thirty quarteral six

1723
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 4: my car unlucky lucky day.

1724
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:33,600
Speaker 1: Trevors pick me up. I go to the hotel. I

1725
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:36,680
Speaker 1: get there about six pm Thursday night. I'm sitting there

1726
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 1: with three books about an inch thick of the three

1727
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:40,559
Speaker 1: days next shows.

1728
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 7: These are the three shows and you booked how many shows?

1729
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 7: At one, three, three and one day?

1730
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:47,639
Speaker 4: So I get up at an am, right, I got

1731
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:49,679
Speaker 4: to make up by eight thirty, walk to the hotel,

1732
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 4: got out of nine four. Wait when was the Spraystanning?

1733
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 4: When the lady came by for four and she said

1734
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 4: take your clothes off, And I'm going, okay, don't leave

1735
01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:00,280
Speaker 4: that out. And then I have a pre production meeting.

1736
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 1: Then I go and far up the audience, talk to

1737
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 1: them about the show coming up, sit there, do the

1738
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 1: show for Aaron Tennis. Come off set, go into my

1739
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:09,599
Speaker 1: studio and do three hours of talk radio until three o'clock,

1740
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 1: eat lunch during the breaks, then at three point thirty

1741
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: bring in the second show audience loaded. I go back,

1742
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 1: talk to production that I've re memborized all the stuff

1743
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:18,760
Speaker 1: for the looks I gotta do. And then I go

1744
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 1: do that show until four thirty, quarter to five, come out,

1745
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 1: try to eat dinner. Then I go back and do

1746
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 1: a six PM show until seven seven thirty pm. Come

1747
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 1: back out, do three to post production? What one right,

1748
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 1: went one wrong?

1749
01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 5: You did this?

1750
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 1: Then do that, et cetera. Think it up The next

1751
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 1: day at by nine pm, I got the three shows

1752
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 1: given to me. The next night, I have to memorize

1753
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 1: everything in the next show for a three live TV

1754
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 1: shows on Friday.

1755
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 4: Go to repeat that thing on Friday.

1756
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:44,600
Speaker 1: Then get in the car, go back to the Logordia,

1757
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 1: take out ten o'clock, lend either Hope, Columbus, Cincinnati or

1758
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:50,960
Speaker 1: Dayton Land somewhere Penny.

1759
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 4: Would pick me up, and I go back home. Now

1760
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:53,479
Speaker 4: would you do that?

1761
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 7: See you wanted the glass. I have a very similar schedule.

1762
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 7: That's why you have a hoy pond and a double

1763
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:06,000
Speaker 7: wide in Florida. Good point, you know, a sacrifice.

1764
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 4: And I was set at the end I wore me out.

1765
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 4: Just hear it all that again.

1766
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:13,479
Speaker 1: Sean comp just said to me, look, we'll give you

1767
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 1: a one year contract for three million dollars.

1768
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 4: And I said, I can't keep doing it. I can't

1769
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 4: do when your other contract ended. Yeah, I can't do it.

1770
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 4: I said, I can't do two hundred and ten radio

1771
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 4: shows a year and two hundred and forty TV shows

1772
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 4: a year. It's killing me. What about three years and ten?

1773
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:34,639
Speaker 4: How many years you did? Five years? Okay?

1774
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:35,240
Speaker 5: Yes?

1775
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:35,680
Speaker 4: For three?

1776
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 3: For ten?

1777
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 2: Yes?

1778
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:38,800
Speaker 4: What do you say? Can't can't afford it? I said,

1779
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 4: thank you good, because I didn't want it anyway. Radio

1780
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 4: a mile from here are right there.

1781
01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:47,920
Speaker 7: I would have loved this look on your face and

1782
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:50,519
Speaker 7: he said, all right, we'll do it. You were like god,

1783
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 7: staring on the barrel of three years. Then I would

1784
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 7: have said ten million bucks. I would have said goodbye

1785
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 7: to radio, and you wouldn't be here talking to me

1786
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 7: in segr I'd rather be here with you guys and

1787
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 7: dealing with like TSHA and the third Who's Your Daddy?

1788
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:06,880
Speaker 4: Show? You know I can't do it right if it

1789
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 4: was right here, yes, but you gotta get say that.

1790
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:12,439
Speaker 4: The shows were very similar like the themes were very similar,

1791
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 4: so it wasn't like you were all over the place.

1792
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:17,880
Speaker 4: It was morey like Jerry like, I'm glad. I'm glad.

1793
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:20,599
Speaker 4: If he would have said yes, I wouldn't be here.

1794
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:23,360
Speaker 4: Maybe for the better. I'm not sure. What's on the

1795
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:25,839
Speaker 4: big show this afternoon? See what do you got, Bratherigate.

1796
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 7: We have a Jeff Carr from Locked on Red's Great

1797
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:32,519
Speaker 7: To Podcast about when I asked about Hunter Green asking.

1798
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 4: About the future, who the resid need to keep? Let go?

1799
01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:40,040
Speaker 7: Now that's a good write this down, write that down, okay.

1800
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 7: And then at four o'clock we got our fitness guy PJ.

1801
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 7: Street going to talk about affordable options for eating healthy.

1802
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:47,880
Speaker 7: It's kind of the conundrum is a lot of the

1803
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 7: healthy stuff to eat healthy, it's either very time consuming

1804
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 7: or very expensive.

1805
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 4: But he's gonna give us some tips on some Yeah,

1806
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:57,120
Speaker 4: I just had some rons, Ruy, can I have some rons? Rus?

1807
01:34:57,280 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 7: Meant to ask you as much as you want, right,

1808
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 7: you grab a piece. And then then we're talking with

1809
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:07,719
Speaker 7: Jason Hoffman at five o'clock. And then about five forty seven,

1810
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:08,879
Speaker 7: the helicopter takes.

1811
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:11,240
Speaker 4: Me to Richwood. So that's it. Say give me out

1812
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 4: of the Stew's report. Please, well, they under of the

1813
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:16,640
Speaker 4: Red Legs twenty twenty five season, and we got to

1814
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:18,000
Speaker 4: look forward to the Bengals.

1815
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:21,320
Speaker 1: We leave, and what about FC break it down? If

1816
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 1: they sit here three and oh the next three weeks,

1817
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:25,560
Speaker 1: you guys will be snickering. We leave you with the

1818
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 1: immortal words of the Stee Report.

1819
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 6: This team is simply not ready to be primetime players.

1820
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:36,040
Speaker 6: They failed too many times in crutch time. When a

1821
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:39,799
Speaker 6: basit here, a basit there will turn the whole game around,

1822
01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 6: and for the most part this season it has been

1823
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:44,719
Speaker 6: a season long worth of disappointment in that area.

1824
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 4: What the period right there, Marty, that's it.

1825
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 1: Ask your expert at three o'clock on that one seven

1826
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:51,280
Speaker 1: hundred WLW