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Speaker 2: This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Thank you for listening. We

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Speaker 2: with Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow is a part of the

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Speaker 2: till you miss it. It's true, It's very true. Uh.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people say, you know, you're big fans.

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Speaker 2: There you go. Joe Burrow with ESPN's John Sutcliffe during

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Speaker 2: we're good here, Joe says he's happy, tells John Sutcliffe,

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Speaker 2: I know we're all exhausted from weeks of Joe Burrow's psychoanalysis.

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Speaker 2: I heard radio Miami won again last night. They survive

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Speaker 2: Twelve from A four. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Moegar.

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Speaker 2: I'm told you're gonna hear Jamar Jason T. Higgins recruiting

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Speaker 2: players to play defense for the ban in the next hour.

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Speaker 2: That is coming up. Also Evan Cohen from ESPN Radio

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Speaker 2: in the five o'clock hour, five thirty five, to be specific,

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Speaker 2: Rick Browing is here. Actually that's not true. I think

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be five to twenty. Mean, the five o'clock hour.

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Speaker 2: Rick Browing is here. You'll hear Rick on the call

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Speaker 2: tonight as NK you get set to host Green Bay

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Speaker 2: and you can get his coverage. Of a Xavier basketball

444
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Speaker 2: at Musketeer report dot com. Hi, Rick, Hey, mo, what's

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Speaker 2: up the Xavier game last night? Now, my basic analysis

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Speaker 2: is Yukon is one of the best two or three

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Speaker 2: teams in the country and Xavier is not, and so

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Speaker 2: the possibility for a game like last night's unfolding is

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Speaker 2: is pretty is pretty significant. And that's my analysis. I

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Speaker 2: bring you on to offer deeper analysis. What do you

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Speaker 2: got for me?

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Speaker 5: I got a nice I think he kind of nailed

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Speaker 5: it pretty spot on there. Boston Elmore and Tony Pike

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Speaker 5: had me on yesterday and Austin was telling me that

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Speaker 5: he had a feeling Xavier was going to win, and

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Speaker 5: they asked me to tell them what it would take

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Speaker 5: for that to happen, and I said a natural disaster.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I think that's about right. Xavier has no

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Speaker 5: chance of beating Yukon this year. Yukon would beat them

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Speaker 5: ten out of ten times. Not only are they superior

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Speaker 5: at every position on the floor, but they also are

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Speaker 5: a terrible matchup for Xavier. Like they the type of

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Speaker 5: stuff that they run and they do on both ends

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Speaker 5: of the floor take Xavier out of what they want

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Speaker 5: to do on both ends of the floor, and so

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Speaker 5: it just really makes for a disasters matchup. I mean,

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Speaker 5: they won the two games against the Musketeers by what

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Speaker 5: like an average of twenty seven points in those two games.

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Speaker 5: So I think we have enough evidence to say that

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Speaker 5: it's just not a good matchup.

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Speaker 2: It's a night where you kind of understand that's what's

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Speaker 2: going to happen when you complay Xavier. It makes the

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Speaker 2: games they let get out of way stick out more

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Speaker 2: of my opinion, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think so. But it also, in my opinion, is

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Speaker 5: a little bit of a sobering reminder about like, hey,

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Speaker 5: you know some of those games where you know, they

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Speaker 5: give up a sixteen point second half lead to Saint

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Speaker 5: John's at home, and you think, well, they should have

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Speaker 5: won that one. How'd they give it away? Maybe they're

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Speaker 5: doing a hell of a job to get to that

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Speaker 5: point where they had a sixteen point win, because base

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Speaker 5: on what I'm seeing in the game, like last nights,

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Speaker 5: their talent does not stack up to the top teams

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Speaker 5: in the conference. So you know, it's it's I mean,

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Speaker 5: you could really read it multiple different ways, but a

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Speaker 5: game like last night's is just so the talent discrepancy

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Speaker 5: is so glaring to me when those team two teams

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Speaker 5: match up, and it's honestly exactly what I expected from

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Speaker 5: Xavier before they started this season. I mean, I know,

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Speaker 5: we go back to your preview show we had with us,

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Speaker 5: and you looked at me and said, you think Xavier

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Speaker 5: is gonna lose twenty games this year? That's insane. But

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Speaker 5: that's really where it came from. Is just they don't

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Speaker 5: have the talent that we're used to seeing in this conference,

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Speaker 5: and that Xavier.

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Speaker 2: I have an idea, though, here's here's a possible quick fix,

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Speaker 2: and tell me how you feel about this. What you

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Speaker 2: do is you find some guys who like got to

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Speaker 2: the NBA but aren't in the NBA anymore, get them

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Speaker 2: lawyers and get him to sue the NCAA so they

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Speaker 2: can get temporary injunctions to come play for the Musketeers.

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Speaker 5: Here's the problem with that. Are any of those dudes

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Speaker 5: any good?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 10: Is anybody doing anything with those guys?

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Speaker 5: Hear it about it happening and everyone gets so mad.

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Speaker 5: Are those guys doing anything?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 5: Like, I think there's one, maybe one that's had some success,

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Speaker 5: but other than that, like all these guys stake they're

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Speaker 5: not an NBA teams for a reason. They're losers, you know, Like,

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's the problem with it, And they're

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Speaker 5: not They're not about the things that you need them

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Speaker 5: to be about to fit into your team and win

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Speaker 5: at a high level in college basketball. I don't think

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Speaker 5: like a lot of these teams are missing a one off,

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Speaker 5: almost NBA type talent that couldn't cut it because he

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Speaker 5: didn't have the work ethic or culture to succeed in

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Speaker 5: the pros.

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Speaker 2: It's funny you say that because I saw James Naji

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Speaker 2: for Baylor play against UC last week, right, and I

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Speaker 2: don't think he did anything in the game. He played

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Speaker 2: seven or eight minutes. Maybe he grabbed a rebound, like

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Speaker 2: in less I said to you, James Nagy is on

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Speaker 2: the floor, you would know. And I'm going, all right, like,

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Speaker 2: I understand why people don't like this. I don't like this,

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Speaker 2: but is this really worth making a fuss over the

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Speaker 2: fact that this guy's playing college ball for a team

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Speaker 2: that's not going anywhere and he's having zero impact on

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Speaker 2: the floor.

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Speaker 5: Well, and you know, the mo I don't blame the fans.

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Speaker 5: The fans should be upset about it. That loser behavior

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Speaker 5: guys coming back to do that as loser behavior, and

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Speaker 5: the coaches who are bringing them back is loser behavior.

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Speaker 5: What I can't understand is what are these coaches doing

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Speaker 5: this for. It's not worth it, and also you're just

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Speaker 5: outing yourself as a guy who wants to skirt the

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Speaker 5: rules that you know. I understand that guys are being

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Speaker 5: being paid now and the sport is different than it's

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Speaker 5: ever been, but they have clearly the NCAA has clearly

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Speaker 5: come out and said that what they're doing with these

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Speaker 5: former professionals that have that have played for NBA teams

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00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 5: or have signed NBA contracts or have been drafted and

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Speaker 5: are now trying to come back, and they're getting legal

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Speaker 5: injunctions in court. Ju I said, we do not approve

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Speaker 5: of this. This is going against everything we're asking you

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Speaker 5: guys to do. You're blatantly cheating at this point and

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Speaker 5: just using the courts to do so. I mean, at

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Speaker 5: what point do we start blaming the adults and the

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Speaker 5: presidents of the universities and the coaches like that's the

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Speaker 5: ones that I don't understand. Why are you doing all

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Speaker 5: of this? You're destroying the sport to get guys like

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Speaker 5: James Naji Elible eligible.

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Speaker 2: Why Yeah, yeah, I just I watched him and went like,

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Speaker 2: I don't see the fuss. I don't see the reason

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Speaker 2: for the fuss. Like, all right, he's playing for a

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Speaker 2: bad Baylor team and he's not helping, and so so

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Speaker 2: this is worth alienating yourself for. This is worth undoing

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Speaker 2: decades of of of NCAA rules. Say what you want

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Speaker 2: about him, this is worth undoing all that for it

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Speaker 2: doesn't make much sense what has happened to the Nkau Norse.

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Speaker 5: And it's a good question, I think right now the

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Speaker 5: big concern is where are they at from a health perspective.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you're talking about that last game at Oakland.

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Speaker 5: You're down four of your top seven once Kel Robinson

567
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Speaker 5: sprained his ankle in that game, and now I don't

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Speaker 5: know where he's at going forward. So you're already dealing

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Speaker 5: with l J. Wells and Ethan Elliott and Donovan Rocoton

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Speaker 5: on a Harry out. Now you throw Kel Robinson into

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Speaker 5: that mix as an injured player, and it's like, you know,

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Speaker 5: some of these guys are going to start coming back

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Speaker 5: at maybe as soon as tonight, but where are they

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Speaker 5: going to be? They're not one hundred percent right now.

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Speaker 5: I know that based on what we've seen in shoot

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Speaker 5: arounds and practices and those guys trying to work.

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Speaker 2: Their way back.

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Speaker 5: So that's the most frustrating and the most difficult part

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Speaker 5: of all this is you can look at the schedule

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Speaker 5: and see a path for them to have success down

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Speaker 5: the stretch.

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Speaker 10: Here.

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Speaker 5: They've got a little bit of a lighter schedule compared

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Speaker 5: to some of the other teams that around them, and

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Speaker 5: the standings, the more difficult games that they have to

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Speaker 5: play are at home instead.

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Speaker 2: Of on the road.

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Speaker 5: So the path is there for them to do what

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Speaker 5: they typically do under Darren Horn, which in the month

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Speaker 5: of February they win about seventy three percent of their

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Speaker 5: games during Darren Horn's tenure. The question is are they

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Speaker 5: going to be healthy enough to pull that off this year?

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Speaker 2: Can a fully healthy NKU team win the Horizon League Tournament?

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Speaker 5: I think they can now. To be clear, Right State

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Speaker 5: deserves to be called the best team in the conference,

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Speaker 5: There's no doubt about that, and Oakland would clearly have

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Speaker 5: an argument that they're better than NKU since they've beaten

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Speaker 5: them twice. That being said, Right State was the only

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Speaker 5: team that I've seen play MKU this year that looked

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Speaker 5: like they soundly beat the Norse and that you wouldn't

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Speaker 5: feel like, oh MK, you's got a pretty good chance

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Speaker 5: in a rematch. Now that's not to say the Right

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Speaker 5: States invincible and they'd have no chance against them, But

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Speaker 5: in my mind, I still think there aren't many teams

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Speaker 5: that have four guys that can go out and give

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Speaker 5: you twenty plus points on any given night like NKU has.

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Speaker 5: Now cal Robinson's not healthy that changes that a little bit,

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Speaker 5: and obviously he's been a shooting slump as well, but

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Speaker 5: even still, three guys being able to give you those

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Speaker 5: types of scoring performances is a lot of firepower when

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Speaker 5: you get in the Horizon League one game winner takes

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Speaker 5: all scenario. I don't think a lot of teams want

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Speaker 5: to see NKU if they have a little bit a

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Speaker 5: bit of momentum. The problem is for the Norse fans

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Speaker 5: that you got to find the momentum first.

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Speaker 2: Have a great call to I thank you as always,

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Speaker 2: thank well. That's our man. Rick Boring, Musketeer Report dot Com,

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Speaker 2: NKU Radio Denorse hosting Green Bay Tonight pregame at six

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Speaker 2: Enter it now. So the Pole Bowl flag football game

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Speaker 2: was last night. The evolution of this event has has

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Speaker 2: gone from them attempting to play football, or the NFL

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Speaker 2: attempting to stage a football game that the players didn't

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Speaker 2: really care about, to now they play flag football. And

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Speaker 2: I will be abundantly transparent with you. I really didn't

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Speaker 2: watch last night. Watching a guy a bunch of NFL

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Speaker 2: players half heartedly played flag football doesn't do it for me.

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Speaker 2: There's college basketball and NBA games going on right now.

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Speaker 2: So I caught some highlights played the Joe Burrow audio before.

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Speaker 2: I think though, after an event like that, it triggers

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Speaker 2: everybody's almost built in impulse to talk about how an

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Speaker 2: event like that can be fixed. Some things are unfixable.

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Speaker 2: For the entirety of my life. The Pro Bowl has

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Speaker 2: not been fixable for one simple reason. You can't make

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Speaker 2: the players care. It's the opposite of tanking. No why

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Speaker 2: tanking's really hard. We talk about it all the time

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Speaker 2: in the NFL and in Major League Baseball. In the NBA,

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Speaker 2: tanking tanking's really really hard because the players care too much.

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Speaker 2: The most glaring example here is December twenty second, twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 2: when most of us wanted the Bengals to lose to

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Speaker 2: the My Dolphins so it would ensure they could pick

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow with the first overall selection in the twenty

648
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Speaker 2: twenty draft, and the players nearly screwed it up because

649
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 2: they care too much. I'm a big Knicks fan. About

650
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 2: three weeks ago, i watched them lose to the Sacramento Kings.

651
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 2: An organization that is invested in not winning. But the

652
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 2: players play hard. Players don't go players don't try to

653
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Speaker 2: lose games. It's hard. The Pro Bowl is the total

654
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Speaker 2: opposite end of that. You can't make them care. So

655
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Speaker 2: you could design an event that's a little bit more

656
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Speaker 2: football centric. You can design an event that's not at

657
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: all football centric. You can do a lot of different

658
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Speaker 2: You cannot make the players care about it. You cannot

659
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 2: make NFL players care enough to want to be in it.

660
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: Like we've had a good laugh at the fact that

661
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Speaker 2: Shadora Sanders and Joe Flacco ended up participating in the

662
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl flag football game thingy. But like that illustrates

663
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 2: how little anybody better wants to actually participate in that

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Speaker 2: shy of making it so financially worth their while that

665
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Speaker 2: they had no choice but to appear. You're never gonna

666
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Speaker 2: make them care. So like, you can choose to watch it.

667
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: And if you watched it and had a blast awesome, great,

668
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: If that was entertaining for you last night, far be

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Speaker 2: it from me to tell you that you should have

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Speaker 2: watched or done something else. But I don't know. And

671
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Speaker 2: by the way, I don't agree with what Mike Florio

672
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: wrote on ProFootball talk dot com that it's time to

673
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Speaker 2: get rid of the Pro Bowl. Like if if there

674
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Speaker 2: are fans who still feel value in watching it, don't

675
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Speaker 2: get rid of it. If the NFL can still make

676
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Speaker 2: money off of it, don't get rid of it. The

677
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 2: NFL doesn't do things that aren't profitable. I'm sure the

678
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl made someone some money last night. If it

679
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 2: made your money because you gambled on it, we might

680
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: have to have a different discover and off to the side.

681
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 2: But it also is all star games. I just we

682
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Speaker 2: should just take them for what they are. Baseball's the best.

683
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Speaker 2: It's the one that best replicates the regular season product.

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Speaker 2: Does it have its own issues, Yes, I don't know

685
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Speaker 2: that fixing it or applying any more fixes is going

686
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Speaker 2: to make the game matter as much as we make

687
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: it out to have mattered fifty years ago. The NBA

688
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: All Star Game is a train wreck that's probably never changing.

689
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Speaker 2: The Pro Bowl, when they were still playing a football game,

690
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: was a train wreck and you didn't want any of

691
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: your team's guys to play in it. What they do

692
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 2: now is mindless entertainment. By the way, mindless entertainment is awesome.

693
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Speaker 2: I make a living in mindless entertainment. But let it

694
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Speaker 2: just be that mindless entertainment that folks looking for an

695
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: escape from the real world dive into for ninety minutes

696
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 2: or two hours on a Tuesday night, And uh, let

697
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Speaker 2: it be that. So there you go. There's the big fix,

698
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl. It's no point in fixing the unfixable.

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Speaker 2: You cannot create an event that will compel NFL players,

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Speaker 2: the best ones to want to be a part of it,

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Speaker 2: and you can't make the ones who are a part

702
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Speaker 2: of it care enough to do more than those players

703
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Speaker 2: did on the field last night. All right, I did

704
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Speaker 2: it the obligatory four minute Pro Bowl segment in sports

705
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Speaker 2: talk radio. You are welcome. Didn't even have to fly

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Speaker 2: to radio row for us to do it. A little

707
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Speaker 2: bit later on this hour, you are going to hear

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Speaker 2: from my new now former favorite football coach. I said

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Speaker 2: that incorrectly, my new favorite now former college football coach.

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Speaker 2: That coming up here in just about twenty minutes, and

711
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Speaker 2: I I'll say this, we have a chance for a

712
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 2: must watch college basketball game in just about a month,

713
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Speaker 2: A chance for a must watch college basketball game before

714
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Speaker 2: we get to the NCAA Tournament. I'll tell you what

715
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Speaker 2: it could be coming up in just about ten minutes.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of college basketball, it is not a UCLA basketball

717
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: game without a press conference where Mick Cronin makes news

718
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 2: for saying something. And I'm a mc cronin fan, like

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Speaker 2: I root for UCLA to have success because of Mick.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate what he was able to accomplish here. I

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Speaker 2: deeply appreciate the fact that when he was the head

722
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: coach here, uc basketball had an identity. So I like

723
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 2: make and I root for him. But the dude is

724
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Speaker 2: not shy about complaining about things that he perceives as

725
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 2: slights or things that have gone against tim or his program.

726
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Speaker 2: He complaining about the time zones that UCLA has had

727
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 2: to travel as members of the Big Ten, which, dude,

728
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 2: you're in the Big Ten, what do you expect? Last night, though,

729
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: he did some complaining on behalf of a coach that

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Speaker 2: he beat. So UCLA in Los Angeles last night destroyed Rutgers.

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Speaker 2: Rutgers is back to being bad nine and fourteen, two

732
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Speaker 2: and ten in the Big Ten, a program that does

733
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Speaker 2: not belong in the Big Ten. Like competitively speaking, UCLA

734
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Speaker 2: can belong in the Big Ten, at least in basketball,

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Speaker 2: Rutgers has had no place in the Big Ten. So

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Speaker 2: after UCLA hammered the Scarlet Knights last night, Mick Cronin

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Speaker 2: made the case for a salary cap to help schools

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Speaker 2: like the one that he just beat. Tarn play that audio.

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Speaker 9: You know, I give Rutgers credit. They got a lot

740
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Speaker 9: of young kids. You know, there's halves and have nots

741
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Speaker 9: in the money world. And coach Pikeel's a great coach,

742
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Speaker 9: he really is. It's just, you know, it's a shame

743
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Speaker 9: we don't have a salary cap and everybody was playing

744
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Speaker 9: even But this is baseball, not the NFL, this is MLB, So.

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Speaker 2: He wants a salary cap. And as the anti salary

746
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 2: cap guy, there's some validity to a more level playing

747
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: field when it comes to player compensation. That said, to

748
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 2: college coaches or even college fans really want a level

749
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 2: playing field. What's interesting is, you know, you hear coaches

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Speaker 2: in men's college basketball, I'm sure in women's college basketball

751
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 2: and in football talk about we gotta have a salary cap,

752
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: right we we We can't have it tilted so that

753
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: a hand a handful of schools can pay their players

754
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Speaker 2: so much more than all these other schools. And again

755
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: there's maybe some validity to that. Uh, but has there

756
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 2: ever truly been a desire for a level playing field

757
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: in college basketball? Like if you said to Mick, okay, cool,

758
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 2: we're gonna have a salary cap for the players. But also,

759
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 2: your recruiting budget is going to be the same as

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Speaker 2: you see Irvines, cool with that, or your your your

761
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 2: travel budget is going to be the same as Loyola Merrymount,

762
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Speaker 2: so you your team might not be able to charter everywhere.

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Speaker 2: This has always been what's been funny to me, and

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Speaker 2: before college sports changed in some cases for the better,

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00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 2: in some cases for the much much much worse. But

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Speaker 2: you'd hear people talk about like, well, you know, there

767
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 2: needs to be you know, salary caps and stuff like that.

768
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Speaker 2: And we don't like the big market teams. We don't

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Speaker 2: like the teams that have advantages in pro sports. Yet

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Speaker 2: the most popular pro teams are Ohio State, Alabama, Kentucky,

771
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 2: et cetera, schools with big budgets. And you say to

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00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 2: those fans like, all right, you want the small market

773
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 2: baseball team to to play on a level playing field

774
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 2: as you know the Yankees and Dodgers. But what about

775
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: in college sports? Hell I remember saying that to an

776
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 2: Ohio State fan, like, wouldn't you love to see what

777
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: the Buckeyes could do if we said they could spend

778
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: the same on recruiting as Miami University. Oh I don't

779
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 2: want that. So I hear like, well, we have to

780
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Speaker 2: level things out. There's never been a desire by anybody.

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00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: There's never been a desire for things to be leveled

782
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Speaker 2: out in sports until the players start getting there, started

783
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 2: getting their chunk again. Man, if it's like, let's let's

784
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Speaker 2: see if we can find a way to collectively bargain

785
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 2: with college athletes, and good luck with that, and we

786
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 2: come up with a way to kind of, you know,

787
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Speaker 2: even things up a little bit from from the standpoint

788
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Speaker 2: of what the players are getting and what schools can

789
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: spend on a roster. I'm here for that. But it's

790
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: been interesting that up until now, I've never heard coaches,

791
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 2: you know, claim that there has to truly be a

792
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 2: level playing field. In fact, far from it. It's usually been, Hey,

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Speaker 2: we need a charter, so we have an advantage over

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00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: the schools or trying to be and we need more facilities,

795
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Speaker 2: and we need better arenas, and we need more resources

796
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Speaker 2: at artists bolls, and we need people to pay for them.

797
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: So we have the things that our competitors don't like.

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Speaker 2: If we if we truly want a level playing field,

799
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Speaker 2: then let's let's make a level playing field.

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Speaker 11: Right.

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Speaker 2: Let's then let's really see who the great coaches are.

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00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 2: And by the way, my guesses Mick would be one

803
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Speaker 2: of them. But let's really see who the great coaches are.

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Speaker 2: Let's really see who's the best at, you know, building

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00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: a roster and coaching players and developing them. If we

806
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 2: say Not only is the field going to be leveled

807
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: when it comes to player salary, but the field's going

808
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: to be level when it comes to all the other

809
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 2: stuff the college programs want to invest money in. Let's

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Speaker 2: see how things would go if, for instance, Ohio State

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Speaker 2: and Cincinnati had the same recruiting budget. My guess is

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Speaker 2: nobody wants that. My guess is Mick would not want

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Speaker 2: to operate with the same recruiting budget as Pepperdine. The

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Speaker 2: portion of the show where I have named a bunch

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Speaker 2: of schools from California is over. Quarter after four. Phone

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Speaker 2: calls are coming up at five point three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. I think we have a chance for a

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Speaker 2: must watch college basketball game. I'll tell you what that

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Speaker 2: Their next game is a road game against Marshall. Ken

860
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 2: Palm gives the RedHawks a sixty percent chance of winning

861
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 2: every other game eighty six percent. Oh you sixty five percent,

862
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 2: You mass and you mass played them last week and

863
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: played them really tough. Terrence Bowling, Green Falcons seventy three percent,

864
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 2: Michigan seventy Western Michigan eighty two percent, Toledo seventy eight percent,

865
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 2: owe you the regular season finale. That game will be

866
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: in Athens sixty nine percent. So now will Miami win

867
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 2: all of those games? They can win seven of eight.

868
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 2: That's a great run. And they finished the regular season

869
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 2: with one loss. But imagine this, right they let's say

870
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 2: they pull it off. They pull it off and finished

871
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 2: thirty one to zero, They go to Cleveland, they get

872
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 2: to the championship game of the MAC Tournament. I think

873
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:41,720
Speaker 2: that's a must watch college basketball game. You know, you've

874
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 2: got a team that is not just playing for at

875
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament bid. You've got a team playing for an

876
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 2: undefeated season. Certainly not the first stands out. Kentucky in

877
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen got too famously the Final Four without losing

878
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: a game, but still uk could have afforded a slip up.

879
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 2: They could have lost in the SEC turn. They were

880
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: not only gonna make the nca Tournamenty're gonna be a

881
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: one seed. You might have this dynamic where Miami still

882
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: needs to win. Certainly would need to win to solidify

883
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 2: a bit, because even if they did get in despite

884
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 2: losing in the MAC Tournament title game, they'd go to

885
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 2: bed and Miami fans would go to bed on Saturday

886
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: night nervous about their team's chances of having its name

887
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: pop up on the screen on selection Sunday. So you

888
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 2: would have the dynamic of trying to polish off an

889
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 2: undefeated regular season, but also trying to ensure that the

890
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 2: previous four months weren't wasted. And yeah, there's always mid

891
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 2: major leagues where teams are playing for a bid, including

892
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 2: some teams that have had really good seasons. How many

893
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 2: of them went undefeated. I think that becomes a must

894
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 2: watch college basketball game. We'll see twenty four after four o'clock,

895
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,919
Speaker 2: thanks to those who have waited patiently. Uh five point three, seven,

896
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 2: four nine, fifteen thirty. Bill, go ahead, you're on ESPN

897
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Hi, Bill, How are you good, sir?

898
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 11: How you doing today?

899
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 2: I have Bill, never been better in my life. How

900
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: about yourself?

901
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 11: I'm getting better good. Got a question for you on

902
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:09,479
Speaker 11: this Pro Bowl game?

903
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like it in the old days, back in.

904
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 11: The sixties and seventies when they played okay this flag football.

905
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 11: I don't like for the men. I'm thinking, what do

906
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 11: you think about this idea? Your rookie and your second

907
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 11: year players? Play in the.

908
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl, like play a real football game.

909
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, play football.

910
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: It'll it'll it'll resemble what the Pro Bowl was like

911
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: before they went to flag football.

912
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 11: How do you how do you think that is true?

913
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 2: Because I watched what became of the Pro Bowl before

914
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: it went to flag football.

915
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 11: Right, You don't think it would be better for the

916
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 11: football game with players that want to hit and play

917
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 11: and aren't extra money for the first year players?

918
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 2: No, not to No, no, I think you would have

919
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 2: players who either decided I don't want to play in

920
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 2: that or I'll play in it. But I'm not going

921
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 2: to take it that seriously because I have an NFL

922
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: team that I'm under contract for. I think every first

923
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 2: or second year player has one goal in mind, and

924
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 2: that's get to the second contract. Anything that gets in

925
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: the way of me getting my second contract, I'd have

926
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 2: no interest in getting injured in the Pro Bowl could

927
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 2: conceivably impact my ability to get that second contract. So

928
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 2: the risk reward is is just not in favor of

929
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 2: getting players to want to do that.

930
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 11: So there's no way we can get back to the

931
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,240
Speaker 11: days where we play real football.

932
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 2: In the Pro Bowl. No, yeah, no.

933
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 11: No, I'm getting a little sick and tired of the

934
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 11: new coming up, all these new.

935
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: Roads with with the problem defense.

936
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 11: With the Pro Bowl in the regular season, where the

937
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 11: defense can't hit nobody anymore.

938
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 2: Do you watch regular season NFL games? Oh, yes, you

939
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 2: don't see players getting hit.

940
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 11: I see more defensive players getting penalized on hits that

941
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 11: was allowed back in the seventies and sixties.

942
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, that certainly does happen, no question that we we've

943
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 2: we've changed, We've changed a lot of the things that

944
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 2: players can do. You don't see a level of violence

945
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 2: that remains when you watch regular season NFL games.

946
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 11: Not like it was back then, No, sir, not back

947
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 11: my days.

948
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah no, so so don't. So you want to you

949
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 2: want to go back to to allowing things that would

950
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,959
Speaker 2: increase the likelihood of injury to players you love watching.

951
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 11: Not injuries. I just want to see hard.

952
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 2: Hitting, and you don't see hard hit when you watch

953
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 2: NFL games.

954
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 11: I do sometimes, but I think the defense back sometimes

955
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 11: you don't.

956
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 2: You don't. You don't see like dozens worth of like

957
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 2: collisions when you watch an NFL game in the regular season.

958
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 4: Yes, I do, Yes, I do.

959
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 10: Yeah, I do that.

960
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 11: But back in the day, you could see a little

961
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 11: bit more physical game. On the defensive side. I think

962
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 11: they're taking the defense step away from the defensive players

963
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 11: on how they can hit, tackle and stuff.

964
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think as it relates to how they

965
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 2: hit the quarterback, it's undeniable that that the game has changed.

966
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 2: One might say it's evolved, and quarterbacks are the biggest stars,

967
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 2: and the league is trying to protect its biggest stars.

968
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,959
Speaker 2: But you often do hear people say, well, they've they've

969
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 2: gotten rid of the hitting from the game. And I

970
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 2: watch this sport every week and I see more violence

971
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 2: in an NFL game that I do pretty much anywhere else,

972
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 2: and we love it. But I think now it's it's

973
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 2: it's more, it's better legislated, it's better regulated. We've gotten

974
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,280
Speaker 2: some things out of the game that really have proven

975
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 2: to not, you know, be needed. So I don't have

976
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 2: any issue with how the game is played. And I'm

977
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 2: I don't know how old you are, Bill, but when

978
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 2: I when I was a kid in the late eighties,

979
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl would be on ABC or CBS from

980
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 2: Hawaii and I would watch it and I would say, like,

981
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 2: this stinks. So for forty years people have complained about

982
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl. It's that's not going to change. There's

983
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 2: nothing they could do to make the players care about

984
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 2: that event, and as long as they don't, the event

985
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 2: is probably going to leave a lot to be desired. Nonetheless, Bill,

986
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 2: I loved hearing from you. Thank you for the phone call.

987
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 2: Have a great day, and I hope we hear from

988
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 2: you again. Okay, thank you, sirving much.

989
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 10: I just.

990
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 2: You know, in the sixties, I don't know what players

991
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 2: in the Pro Bowl were getting for winning the game.

992
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 2: Whatever money players would get for being on the winning

993
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 2: team in a flag football game or a Pro Bowl

994
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 2: football game, the way we were doing it four or

995
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 2: five years ago is not going to be worth it.

996
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 2: Just you don't have to watch it, like I didn't

997
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 2: watch I didn't watch it because it you know again,

998
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,919
Speaker 2: I went to a basketball game last night, but it's

999
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 2: no stakes. Football does no interest for me. Flag football

1000
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 2: doesn't really interest me. I'm not sure i'd be that

1001
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 2: into flag football was in the Olympics, to be honest

1002
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 2: with you. Uh so, But there's there's no there's no

1003
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 2: way of fixing that event. You can't make players care

1004
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 2: about something that intrinsically they're not going to care. About

1005
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,959
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1028
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Speaker 2: Hockey Tonight, the Cyclones are at Kalamazoo, which is the

1029
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 2: fun city. James Rapine had his wedding just outside Kalamazoo.

1030
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 2: I stayed in Kalamazoo only time in my life I've

1031
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 2: ever been to Kalamazoo. Lots of breweries in Kalamazoo, lots

1032
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 2: of fun to be had in Kalamazoo. Don't know that

1033
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 2: I'd want to go there in February. Fortunately, James's wedding

1034
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 2: was in June. Also, hockey tonight, the Blue Jackets look

1035
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 2: for a seventh consecutive victory as they take on the

1036
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 2: Chicago Blackhawks. I retweeted this here I encourage you, if

1037
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 2: you don't mind, go read. And I'm sure there are

1038
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 2: others on the Bengals beat who have written about this,

1039
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 2: but the first that I noticed was Kelsey. Kelsey obviously

1040
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 2: does an awesome job covering the Bengals for Cincinnati dot Com.

1041
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 2: You've heard Jay Morrison on this show. Jay Covers the Bengals.

1042
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 2: Has covered the Bengals for years for a few different outlets,

1043
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 2: but currently Bengals Talk dot Com. And right at the

1044
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 2: end of the football season, he lost his wife and

1045
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 2: this was not expected. She went in for a medical

1046
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 2: procedure and Jay has made all of this public shortly

1047
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 2: before Christmas, and the procedure, needless to say, did not

1048
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 2: go well. So he lost his wife. And Jay is

1049
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 2: tweeted about this, not that extensively because, as you might understand,

1050
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 2: he's had a lot more to deal with than what's

1051
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 2: going on on social media, but he tweeted a video

1052
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 2: of the honor walk because his wife was an organ

1053
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 2: donor and I did not know that this was something

1054
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 2: that happened. But when you donate your organs and you

1055
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 2: are I'm trying to think of the best clinical way

1056
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 2: to put this, but you're you're essentially on life support

1057
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 2: and you're not conscious anymore. I guess they walk you

1058
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 2: through the hospital and everybody who works there lines the

1059
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 2: hallways and you get a hero send off. Jay tweeted

1060
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 2: out that video and staged a celebration of his wife's

1061
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 2: life this past weekend, and the tab was picked up

1062
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Speaker 2: by Zach Taylor and Brian Callahan, and I want you

1063
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 2: to go read Kelsey's story, and we talk about Zach,

1064
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 2: needless to say a lot. Zach actually attended the celebration

1065
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 2: of life, which is awesome, attended with his kids, and

1066
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 2: Kelsey writes about all this, and and so just go

1067
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 2: read it. And whatever you feel about Zach Taylor as

1068
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 2: a head coach, and god knows I have my criticisms,

1069
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 2: here is an example of him stepping up in a

1070
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 2: situation that matters a hell of a lot more than

1071
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 2: whatever he does on the sideline of a football game.

1072
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Speaker 2: So good for Zach and good for Brian Callahan. And

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Speaker 2: I hope that hope that brought some level of comfort

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01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 2: and even joy to Jay and his family that Zach

1075
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 2: and Brian stepped up. And so go read Kelsey's Go

1076
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 2: read somebody who writes for a sports section that hasn't

1077
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 2: been shuttered at cincia dot com, and Tipothy cap to

1078
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 2: a Zach Taylor and Brian Callahan, and of course to

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01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 2: Jay and his family. I know Jay has basically taken

1080
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 2: the last month or so off work and cannot wait

1081
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 2: to him coming back and reading him and listening to

1082
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 2: him and being on podcasts with him whenever he deems

1083
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 2: that appropriate. But I wanted to make mention of that

1084
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 2: because when people like that do really good things, it

1085
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 2: should be it should be publicized. Twenty away from five o'clock, Mike,

1086
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 2: go ahead, you're on ESPN fifteen thirty. My good afternoon.

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01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 2: How are you?

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01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 10: Oh fine? You always catch me off guard. Thank you

1089
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 10: most christiating. And to mister Morris and his family and

1090
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 10: deceased wife. My heart goes out to him big time.

1091
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 10: It puts forts in a perspective where exactly where it belongs. Unimportant, entertaining,

1092
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 10: but unimportant, which is why, which which is why I

1093
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 10: love them. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, that's exactly right, because you

1094
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 10: don't have to think a whole lot. Well, you can

1095
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 10: if you want.

1096
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 2: I usually don't, and this show reflects as much.

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01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 10: So I wouldn't say that if you put your heart

1098
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 10: and soul in your brainer. Okay, three things, if you

1099
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 10: don't mind, my friend. Last night, I did not watch

1100
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 10: the flag football game, had no desire to watch it,

1101
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 10: but luckily on Fox Sports one they had the one

1102
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 10: hundre your fiftieth Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show, which is

1103
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 10: the super Bowl of dog shows and has been for

1104
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 10: one hundred and fifty years.

1105
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 2: How was it.

1106
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 10: Awesome? It's always awesome. Twenty five hundred dogs broke down

1107
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 10: into seven groups. They take the winners of the seven

1108
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 10: groups and judge those seven dogs to be the best

1109
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 10: in show. Madison Square Garden, two knights in a row, packed,

1110
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 10: standing room only, no seats. It's this way every year.

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01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 2: Can you can you bet on that event?

1112
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 10: I never looked into that that. No, you wouldn't want

1113
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 10: to do that. Mo, don't don't do that. Don't do that.

1114
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 2: Well, that's the only way. That's the only way I'm

1115
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 2: going to be compelled to watch a dog shows if

1116
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 2: I can make wagers on it.

1117
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 10: See, you don't like dogs.

1118
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 2: I love dogs. I love dog We own a dog,

1119
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 2: Bella Bella the Frenchton. We named her Ginos. I just

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01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 2: don't There's a lot of things I love to cook.

1121
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily want to watch somebody cook like I.

1122
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 2: Just because I don't want to watch a dog show

1123
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 2: doesn't mean I love dogs.

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Speaker 10: Okay, cool, Well you know I love watching it.

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01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool. That's awesome to each their own.

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Speaker 10: Two hundred and fifty different breeds worldwide. Yeah, they have

1127
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 10: evolved over eight or nine thousand years, the oldest being

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01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 10: of Saluki, which is the fight hound, which is a

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01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 10: hound dog.

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01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 2: By the way, I lied, I do. I did watch

1131
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 2: this one old woman cook these these smash burgers on

1132
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 2: TV when I was visiting a friend of mine's mom

1133
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 2: and I went home that night and I made those

1134
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 2: smash burgers. So I do now watch this old lady

1135
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 2: cook because I could find her shows on Max and

1136
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 2: on YouTube, and I've copied her recipes, so that's not

1137
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 2: I didn't. I wasn't completely transparent. I will watch this

1138
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 2: old lady cook. But I don't really want to watch

1139
01:06:59,120 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 2: a dog show.

1140
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 10: One of my favorite shows on TV is Diner, Drivings

1141
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 10: and Dies with guy Ti Eric.

1142
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 2: That's a good show. But like I like to watch

1143
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 2: that too because I like to see how these restaurant

1144
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 2: owners make their food. So yeah, I actually do now

1145
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 2: like to watch people cook.

1146
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 10: And he goes to Cincinnati off and on quite a lot.

1147
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 2: He's been here, Jeff Ruby.

1148
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 12: Yeah, anyway, the dog that won was Adobe Doberman Pincher,

1149
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 12: was only the fifth time in one hundred and fifty

1150
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 12: years at the Doberman won.

1151
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 10: The second place prize was a Cumberland Retriever, which is kind.

1152
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 2: Of a what do the dogs get for winning nothing?

1153
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 10: The dogs getting nothing.

1154
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 2: The dogs get nothing.

1155
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 10: There is no monetary game from this. But here's the kick.

1156
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 2: I think that's BS. I think that's BS. When my

1157
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 2: dog does something, she gets a treat.

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01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 10: Well, they give him a gigantic trophy, which is much

1159
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:00,479
Speaker 10: more impress than.

1160
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 2: The super You think a dog would rather have a

1161
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 2: trophy or a treat.

1162
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 10: Well, they get in't treats. The whole time. They're showing

1163
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 10: them to keep their attention, why they're running around the

1164
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 10: ring and stuff stuff. But what happens is where the

1165
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 10: money is, my friend, is in the stud fees. Yeah,

1166
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 10: the dogs that place first, second, and third, and the

1167
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 10: puppy piece from the females. And I'm talking huge money.

1168
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 2: So from like breeding the dogs, that's where the money is.

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01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 10: That's where the money is.

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01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 2: Do they ever show that on TV?

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01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 10: Not that I know, God, you're such a free market

1172
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,839
Speaker 10: free anyway, okay, because I don't.

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01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 2: Want to watch a dog show. Well, I don't even

1174
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 2: know what that. I don't even know what those two

1175
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 2: things have to do with each other.

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01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 10: Worried about how much money you can make?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, What will compel me to watch an event

1178
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 2: that I ordinarily have no interest in would be if

1179
01:08:56,400 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 2: you said, mo, you could lay money on this dog

1180
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 2: to win the dog show at plus three sixty, Then

1181
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 2: I'm in. Then I'm in. Well beyond that, it's just

1182
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 2: a bunch of stuffy, rich people parading around their dogs.

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01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 10: Well, they might do that, but here's the problem with

1184
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 10: if you could wager on it.

1185
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, they have judge.

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01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,600
Speaker 10: They have judges for each one of these groups, and

1187
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 10: each group may have a couple hundred dogs in it.

1188
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 2: You could wager on UFC fights. There are judges on

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01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 2: UFC fights, right.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, but it's so subject. Yeah, well that's true, but

1191
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 10: it's subject. I don't know. I guess it's just a

1192
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 10: heritage thing that they've elected not to get the money involved.

1193
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 10: But okay, I'm move on now. I'm sorry, I'm boring everybody.

1194
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 10: But here's a really cool thing. My friend, yeah, yesterday.

1195
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 10: I've never been to a Super Bowl in my life. No,

1196
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 10: never even entertained going to one because I thought it

1197
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 10: was too expensive or whatever. It's not cheap So yesterday

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01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 10: at our CLC, which is called the Community Living Center,

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Speaker 10: which is my hospice facility in La Jolla, California, in

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01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 10: North San Diego County, there's two guys walk in and

1201
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 10: I looked at this one guy and I thought, that

1202
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:16,719
Speaker 10: dude looks like Cookin and the Coop and a couple

1203
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:18,640
Speaker 10: of my other veterans. Some of them are kind of

1204
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 10: out of the cover of them. But and then I

1205
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 10: and then the other guy, I thought, well, I know

1206
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 10: who that is. It was Matt Stanford. These guys showed

1207
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 10: up from the RAMS and they had went to two

1208
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 10: other VA hospice facilities in southern California with tickets for

1209
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 10: purple heart victims that are in the hospice to go

1210
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 10: to the super Bowl and see how all expenses paid.

1211
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 10: We leave tomorrow. They're driving us up there in the van.

1212
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 10: They're going to put us up in a hotel. I

1213
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 10: don't know where, although I know the Bay area really well,

1214
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 10: but I can't get around like I could because of

1215
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 10: the wheelchair and stuff. But anyway, we're going to get

1216
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 10: to go to the super Bowl and they're paying for it.

1217
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 10: And I guess it's handicapped seating because my one veteran buddy.

1218
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 10: He said, well, wonder what our seats are? I said, deep,

1219
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 10: scut up, who cares where the seats are. We're going

1220
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 10: to the damn super I've never been losing seventy three

1221
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 10: years old.

1222
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 2: Well that's awesome, that's cool to sound. Now here's my question,

1223
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 2: and I have to ask for for your buddy's sake,

1224
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 2: could he sell his ticket and make some money off

1225
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 2: of it? No, okay, off, this is not for reason.

1226
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 2: So you get to go to the super Bowl.

1227
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, well you could sell your ticket, but we'll send

1228
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 10: Ford or one of the defensive linemen down the beach

1229
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 10: to a pole.

1230
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 2: So so Matt, Stafford and pookin the couas show up

1231
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 2: and they inform you that you get to go to

1232
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 2: Santa Clara for the Super Bowl.

1233
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, because there's twenty five guys here, but there's only

1234
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 10: four of us that have purple hearts. Now.

1235
01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 2: Now, so this is what I want to know next.

1236
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 2: Because I knew you served h I didn't know you

1237
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 2: were a purple heart recipient. What did you receive a

1238
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,799
Speaker 2: purple heart for? If you don't mind me astime?

1239
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 10: The first time was I caught up at nineteen years old,

1240
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 10: on the may Cong Delta by the Cambodian border, taking

1241
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 10: a bunch of jar heads, which.

1242
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, gotcha, okay.

1243
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah. I caught a piece of shrapnel in the

1244
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 10: top of my head. I didn't have my helmet on

1245
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 10: it because it's so hot there a lot of times

1246
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:34,600
Speaker 10: I shouldn't wear their helmets on our little boat that

1247
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 10: we would take a platoon of marines up there and

1248
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 10: then we would leave. But it was heavily fortified little

1249
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 10: boat about twenty feet long, called a TVR for twall

1250
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 10: boat Riverine, that's what it seems, right, And so we

1251
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 10: went up there and I caught a piece of shrapnel

1252
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 10: on the top of my head and it knocked me out.

1253
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 10: I don't even remember any of it. At one hundred

1254
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 10: and twenty two stitches and the top of my head

1255
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:03,719
Speaker 10: to corn and put in my head or I would

1256
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 10: have bled out in five minutes or less. Staved my life.

1257
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 10: So that's what I got. My first purple heart, or

1258
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 10: in the second purple heart was for a saving when

1259
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 10: I went back after that, for trying to save one

1260
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 10: of my buddies. So wow, way I got two of them.

1261
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 2: Well, that's awesome, that's so so I mean, first of all,

1262
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:30,679
Speaker 2: that's incredible and you have my utmost respect for receiving

1263
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 2: those two purple hearts and the heroic acts involved that

1264
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 2: allowed you to get those purple hearts. So you get

1265
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 2: a chance to go to the super Bowl on that

1266
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 2: So that's now. Here's my other question. Would you rather

1267
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 2: go to the super Bowl or the Westminster Kennel Club

1268
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 2: dog Show?

1269
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 10: He's such as smart ass, it's.

1270
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 2: A fair question. You spend ten minutes talking about the

1271
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 2: dog show.

1272
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 10: No, I do love the dog show, but no, it

1273
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 10: closed this with the super Bowl. No, I'll go to

1274
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 10: the super Bowl. Thank you so much.

1275
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Well, I hope you have a great time.

1276
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 2: That's that's that's cool as hell. Man. It's well deserved

1277
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 2: and I hope you have a blast. And I can't wait.

1278
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 2: I'm sure you will call us next week to tell

1279
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:16,440
Speaker 2: us about your super Bowl experience.

1280
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 10: Are you Are you working Friday?

1281
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:20,679
Speaker 2: Working Friday?

1282
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 10: Yes, I'll call you because they told us they're gonna

1283
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 10: take us to a radio row and watch it and

1284
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 10: I didn't comment on your comments.

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Speaker 2: So you'll be at radio Row in San Francisco on Friday.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, just sitting in the corner somewhere with two other disabled.

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Speaker 2: At the at the game itself. Are they gonna like

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Speaker 2: honor you during during a time out or something.

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Speaker 10: Oh, they haven't said anything like that. They did say though,

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Speaker 10: that on Saturday, we're going to some kind of a

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Speaker 10: they're gonna take us to some kind of a super

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Speaker 10: Bowl party. But I don't know what the content.

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Speaker 2: This sounds like the weekend of a lifetime. This is unbelievable.

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Speaker 10: Actually started crying last night. I was so yeah, grate, yeah,

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Speaker 10: because I had no idea. But this is Christmas reincarnated.

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Speaker 2: This is this is out of the blue, This is

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Speaker 2: incredibly Well, so you're gonna call us from from Radio

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Speaker 2: Row on Friday.

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Speaker 10: My hotel room or where we're not.

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01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 2: I'd rather hear from you from Radio Row.

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Speaker 10: Okay, Okay, it's kind of like a Kroger thing.

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01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll probably put you up to doing some stuff,

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01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 2: but yes, we'd like to hear from you from Radio Row.

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Speaker 10: Okay on Friday.

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01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 2: Just like the time you called us from like a

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Speaker 2: like a baseball game and I tried to get you

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01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 2: to buy people beer, we might make you do something similar.

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Speaker 10: Okay, Well, thank you so much. I just wanted to

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Speaker 10: share that.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome, Mike. That's what's well deserved. And uh and

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Speaker 2: and and it's it's really cool and and I'm I'm

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Speaker 2: happy for you. Congratulations. It's neat that you'll get a

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01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 2: chance to experience. And it's only a fraction of what

1314
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Speaker 2: you do for your heroism and your service to the country.

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01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 2: So I mean that from the bottom of my heart.

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01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 2: Thank you for letting me mess with you a little bit.

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Speaker 2: And we'll talk to you from radio row.

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Speaker 10: Okay, well, thanks and have a good night.

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Speaker 2: I will do that. It's eight away from five o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations to Mike. That is awesome. This is ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 2: Now, no idea, Mike one two purple hearts. That's cool. Hey.

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Speaker 2: In thirty minutes, we'll chat with ESPN radios Evan Cohen.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna hear Joe Flocco on what his twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: and as we say in the business, I teased this

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Speaker 2: last hour and I didn't get a chance to get

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Speaker 2: to it. But you are gonna hear from my new

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Speaker 2: favorite now former college football coach that's coming up in

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Speaker 2: just about fifteen minutes. And just a few you'll hear

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Speaker 2: Jamar Chason T. Higgins, who I guess are gonna do

1345
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 2: a podcast with each other. You'll hear them make their

1346
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 2: pitch for defensive players to come to the Bengals. There's

1347
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Speaker 2: a lot to get to between now and six o'clock.

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Speaker 2: NKU basketball. Coming up at thirty tonight is the Norse

1349
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 2: host Green Bay. You know quickly on the college basketball

1350
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 2: You know, we were talking about this with Rick Brooring.

1351
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 2: Xavier got destroyed last night by Yukon and it was

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01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 2: a team that is one of the very best two

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01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 2: or three in the country that has one loss, and

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01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 2: it came to Arizona, the unanimous number one team in

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01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 2: the country. Xavier didn't play well, but even if they

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01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:29,520
Speaker 2: played great, they stood very little chance of beating the Huskies.

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Speaker 2: And it's not that unlike watching Cincinnati versus Arizona, where

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01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 2: you knew the Bearcats we're gonna have to play perfect,

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01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 2: and even if they did, they still faced a very

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01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 2: uphill battle. And you could apply that to the Houston

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Speaker 2: game this past Saturday as well. I mentioned before that

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01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 2: if you look at ESPN's Bubble Watch, when they break

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01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 2: down each conference into you know, locks to get in,

1364
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 2: teams that should be in, teams that still have some

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01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:58,640
Speaker 2: work to do, and teams that are long shots. I

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01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 2: legitimately think, in the first time ever, for the first

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01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 2: time reading that column, I saw neither uc or Xavier.

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01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 2: I may be wrong about that, I don't think I

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01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 2: am like last night as a Xavier illustration of something

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01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 2: we've said about UC. Now the two programs are in

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01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 2: different places because Xavier's head coaches in year one, UC's

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01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 2: head coaches in year five, Xavier's head coach, I think

1373
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 2: everybody is saying, like, dude, just get through the season

1374
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 2: and then then we'll start to really judge you on results.

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01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 2: With Wes Miller, it's year five. It doesn't look like

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01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 2: they're gonna come close to making the tournament. That's the

1377
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 2: tangible proof that anybody cares about as to whether or

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01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 2: not the program is headed in the right direction. But

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Speaker 2: I'll talk about this from a UC perspective because I

1380
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 2: am a Bearcat fan, but I think it applies to

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01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 2: the Musketeers as well. Xavier's made the NCAA tournament recently,

1382
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 2: made it last year obviously, then Sean Miller left for

1383
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 2: the team that he beat in the end tournament, Texas

1384
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 2: and played in the Sweet sixteen a couple of seasons ago.

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01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 2: You see, hasn't made the tournament obviously since twenty nineteen.

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01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 2: But the way the conversation has shifted about I think

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01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,600
Speaker 2: the Bearcats more than Xavier, but I'll apply it to

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01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 2: both is just got to make the tournament. What's it

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01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:21,680
Speaker 2: gonna take to make the tournament? And at the end

1390
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Speaker 2: of the day, in college basketball, whether you like UC, Xavier, Kentucky, Miami,

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01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 2: that's the quest. You're gonna make the tournament. And it's

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01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 2: like if you made the tournament, all right, at least

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01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 2: got a shot to advance. You make the tournament, it's

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01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:36,759
Speaker 2: hard to say that the season was a total failure.

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01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 2: I agree with that, but I I I aspire for more.

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01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 2: Like there was a time from a UC perspective where

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01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 2: making the tournament wasn't good enough. So like I watch

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01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 2: games against Arizona or Houston through that lens, how do

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01:20:56,360 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 2: they get to be that again? And apples to apples

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Speaker 2: with Xavier just because of the the timelines involved with

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01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 2: the two respective coaches. But it's like when can Xavier

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01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 2: be that? Like when? When? When can they be what

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01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 2: Yukon is? You might go, well, that's really aspirational. Yukon's

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01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 2: a second ranked team in a country. Like Dan Hurley

1405
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 2: won recently back to back national champions national championships. I

1406
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 2: should say, like those are brethren in your league. If

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01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 2: you can't compare yourself or aspire to be what the

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01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 2: best teams in your league are, you shouldn't be in

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01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 2: that league. And so like last night, it kind of

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01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 2: reminded you of you're a Xavier fan. I think not

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01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 2: so much of you know how sobering it was to

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01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 2: lose to Yukon, but it's like it shouldn't have lost

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01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:51,640
Speaker 2: to Creighton and Saint John's and Seaton Hall. In the

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01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:53,639
Speaker 2: game they led by eleven and a halftime, and if

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01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 2: you win at least a couple of those, it's a

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01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:58,719
Speaker 2: little bit easier to take a beating against the Huskies.

1417
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 2: And I would say the same about the Bearcats. But

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01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 2: like you watch those games, I think through the lens

1419
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:09,759
Speaker 2: of when are these programs going to be like those programs?

1420
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow says he's happy said it on the Pro

1421
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 2: Bowl Flag Football telecast last night. Here's that on ESPN.

1422
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 2: Sometimes you don't realize what you have till you miss it. No,

1423
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 2: that's true, It's very true.

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01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 3: You know, I've been injured quite a bit in my career,

1426
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 3: and so I gained some perspective on this whole thing.

1427
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 3: And when the league asked me to do it, it

1428
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:37,639
Speaker 3: was a little has to do at first, but then

1429
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 3: they convinced me, and I'm.

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01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 2: Glad I did it. A lot of people say, you know,

1431
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 2: you're big fans. Is Joe Burrow happy since in that team? Honestly, yeah,

1432
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 2: I am. I think.

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01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, everybody has bad days, right, everybody has

1434
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 3: bad days. Sometimes they fall on press conference days, so

1435
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 3: you know, that's how it goes sometimes.

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01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:58,760
Speaker 2: All right, there you go, had a sense of humor

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01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 2: about it. He says he's happy, So all is good

1438
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 2: for now. Let's revisit this in a year. Let's revisit

1439
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 2: this in January. Hopefully we don't have to the time

1440
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 2: for Joe Burrow's psychoanalysis has come and gone, and it

1441
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 2: was fatiguing at the end of the year, like sifting

1442
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 2: through every syllable of every public statement was exhausting and

1443
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 2: non productive. And so he's happy. And you know, if

1444
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 2: you're going to wager money on where Joe Burrow is

1445
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 2: going to play on twenty twenty six, I have no

1446
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 2: idea why you would bet on anybody but the Cincinnati Bengals.

1447
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 2: But if that question has to be asked in a year,

1448
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 2: forget what the answer is. If the question has to

1449
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:45,799
Speaker 2: be asked in a year, something will have gone terribly wrong.

1450
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 2: And if we have to ask the question in a year,

1451
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 2: then you should at least prepare yourself, I think for

1452
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 2: a slightly different answer, maybe an entirely different answer. So

1453
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 2: right now, well, yep, he's happy. Cool? What if what

1454
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 2: if twenty twenty six looks, feels, sounds and plays out

1455
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 2: like twenty twenty five or twenty twenty four or twenty

1456
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 2: twenty three. You do not want to tempt fee. So yes,

1457
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 2: he's happy. That's fine. The question is will we be

1458
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 2: asking the same question in ten months or eleven months

1459
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:30,679
Speaker 2: or twelve months? Taren? What is this from this? T? Higgins?

1460
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 2: It from Kay Adams. Kel We like Kay Adams. Kay

1461
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 2: Adams had Jamar Chas and T. Higgins on from San

1462
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 2: Francisco Radio. Row saddest place on earth. But if Kay

1463
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 2: Adams is there, it's a little bit less sad. Here

1464
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 2: are Jamar and t pitching a prospective defensive players coming

1465
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 2: to Cincinnati. Jamar, if you could pick one person all

1466
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 2: this campaigning yesterday with free agents, who would you pick

1467
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 2: to add to the Bengals that you saw yesterday in

1468
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl Game? Me, tee, who you want to get?

1469
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 10: Oh?

1470
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:05,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. If he is a free agent? Ye,

1471
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Simmons. You want Simmons? I like him? Tell me more.

1472
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 2: He's just a dog up there front man. You know,

1473
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 2: just just watch him over the season. He just made

1474
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 2: so many players, you know, with run stopping, you know,

1475
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,560
Speaker 2: getting sacks on the qbs and stuff like that. I

1476
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 2: feel like we can t Higgins answer what's yours?

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01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 13: That's a good answer too. Honestly, that's not a bad one.

1478
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:32,720
Speaker 13: I want to go with you boy from Vegas though.

1479
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 14: Max Maxsby, Oh my gosh, I like Frosby.

1480
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 2: Come on to the Bengals, man, I want to. I

1481
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 2: thought I want him to go to Chicago, but I

1482
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 2: e think Cincy. I could see him in Sincy.

1483
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 6: I could too get a ring.

1484
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 11: He's a dog.

1485
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 2: I like Max Crosby. I heard one of your first

1486
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 2: guests on the top, all right. I like Jeffrey Simmons

1487
01:25:53,640 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 2: and Max Crosby too. Neither players are free agents. That

1488
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 2: that's not tampering right now. Max Crosby's I think it's

1489
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 2: a fair bet that he's played his last game with

1490
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 2: the Raiders. But it had to trade him, which would

1491
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 2: be cool. Jeffrey Simmons is under contract for a couple

1492
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 2: of years. Umber kid number ten for Max Crosby. That

1493
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:25,839
Speaker 2: ain't happening. No, no, would love Max Crosby. Both players

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Speaker 2: currently under contracts. Hopefully neither Jamar or Ti get ding

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Speaker 2: for tampering, which I don't think they will. I don't

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Speaker 2: think that's how it works. Oh know, there were a

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Speaker 2: lot more players who did that yesterday. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No,

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Speaker 2: it's nobody. It's everybody's having fun with it. So good

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Speaker 2: for them, Good for them, Good for them. Evan Cohen

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Speaker 2: from ESPN is in San Francisco. You hear his show

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Speaker 2: weekday mornings from six to ten. He is going to

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Speaker 2: join us coming up in just about twenty minutes. Joe

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Speaker 2: Flacco made the rounds today, and you will hear from

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Speaker 2: my new now former favorite screwed that up again, my

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01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 2: new favorite, now former college football coach. I should have

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Speaker 2: written that out. This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 2: Twenty minutes after five o'clock. I'm allegar. You're listening to

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty and thank you, seriously, thank you all right,

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Speaker 2: my new favorite now former college football coach. In just

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Speaker 2: a second, Joe Flacco was in the the Pro Bowl

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01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 2: flag football game last night. Looked like he was having

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Speaker 2: a lot of fun watching the highlights. Is Joe gonna

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Speaker 2: come back? Is he gonna be Joe Burrow's backup? Where's

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Speaker 2: he going to go? Is he gonna play for somebody else?

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Speaker 2: Will somebody give him a starting gig? Does he want

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Speaker 2: to come back to Cincinnati? Here is Joe Flacco on

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Speaker 2: Pro Football Talk Live earlier today.

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Speaker 14: I don't really think about it at this point, Like

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01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 14: I don't want to just sign up with anybody. I

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01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 14: don't want to just play football or be on the

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01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 14: sideline for the sake of saying I'm out there.

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Speaker 5: So you want to be in a spot that you're

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01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 5: more about being in a spot where you might play

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Speaker 5: rather than being on.

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Speaker 2: A good team and be in a backup or something.

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Speaker 14: Listen, there's lots of things that go into it, Okay,

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Speaker 14: and listen, like I love Cincinnati, Yeah, I like the

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Speaker 14: idea of going back to Cincinnati, but at the same time,

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01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 14: you are resigning yourself to something there. So like, so

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01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 14: there's a world where that where I could see that happening.

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01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 14: But you know, you gotta see what's out there. You

1542
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 14: gotta just kind of if things come or when they come,

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01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 14: you have to just kind of weigh those those options

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Speaker 14: and make a decision. And you know, I hope I'm

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Speaker 14: in a position to make a decision.

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Speaker 2: There's a Joe Flacco on Pro Football Talk Live. I

1547
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 2: think it's fair to wonder a couple of different things. One,

1548
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:21,679
Speaker 2: what will the market be for Joe Flacco? Because there

1549
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 2: clearly can't be anybody who for a quarterback at this

1550
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 2: stage in his career. And I probably don't even have

1551
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 2: to say this is like, yes, that's going to be

1552
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 2: our franchise quarterback. That's the guy we're moving forward with.

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01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 2: There surely are going to be teams who are looking

1554
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 2: for a bridge guy, somebody to play in the short

1555
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 2: term while they either figure out what they're doing long term,

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01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:46,920
Speaker 2: or play a rookie, play a guy they draft this

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01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 2: year maybe, or a team that you know, at some

1558
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 2: point during camp there's an injury and they're desperate and

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Speaker 2: we need a guy, and Joe Flacco's proven to be

1560
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Speaker 2: a quick study, and so you know, on that level,

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Speaker 2: maybe it behoo Joe Flacco to kind of wait things

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Speaker 2: out and see where things are this summer. Right. Hey, look,

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Speaker 2: I can always go back to Cincinnati. Maybe I can

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01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:10,639
Speaker 2: always sign with a team, you know, with not much

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Speaker 2: time left in camp, because I know how to pick

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Speaker 2: up an offense quickly. I've had to do it multiple

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01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 2: times and it's worked. Or maybe there are teams that go, look, man,

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Speaker 2: cool story in Cincinnati last year, but you are on

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01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:25,599
Speaker 2: the other side of forty. Can't be that much gas

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01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 2: left in the tank looking for somebody who's a little

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01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 2: bit more close to their physical peak like I have.

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Speaker 2: I don't think any of us have any real idea.

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01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:38,560
Speaker 2: I do not think you could blame Joe Flacco for

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01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 2: not wanting to sign the first thing put in front

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Speaker 2: of him. If the Bengals put a contract in front

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01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 2: of him, like could you blame him? Let me see

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01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:47,680
Speaker 2: what else is out there?

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Speaker 10: Now?

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Speaker 2: The Bengals surely would love Joe Flacco back. I would imagine,

1580
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:58,720
Speaker 2: though I think it would be okay to do some

1581
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 2: due diligence with where to who the backup QB is?

1582
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:06,680
Speaker 2: Is there somebody as good but maybe younger? And if

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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco tells you, I'd rather not sign the first

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Speaker 2: thing in front of me, I'd rather see what happens. Okay,

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Speaker 2: but are are you? Are you gonna wait on Joe

1586
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:21,519
Speaker 2: Flacco and not go sign somebody else. I'm asking these

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Speaker 2: things kind of rhetorically because I don't know that any

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01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 2: of us know the answers. But this is sort of

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01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 2: fascinating if you think about it. Right, Sure, Joe Flacco

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01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:35,800
Speaker 2: still thinks he could play. Sure the Bengals would love

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01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 2: to have him back in the role that he was

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Speaker 2: in obviously this past season. You could understand why the

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Speaker 2: Bengals would want him to sign asap. You could understand

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01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:48,560
Speaker 2: why Joe Flacco is like, yeah, I'm not gonna sign instantly. You,

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Speaker 2: I would imagine then would understand why the Bengals would go, look,

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01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 2: love to have you, but uh, we got to kind

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01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 2: of get moving here on our team. And we can't

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Speaker 2: wait for you to figure out out what the market's

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01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 2: going to be, because maybe the market evolves for a

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Speaker 2: guy like Joe Flacco slowly. We will see twenty five

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Speaker 2: minutes after five o'clock on ESPN fifteen thirty one, Moeger

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Speaker 2: Delta dentaloh dot com. I saw this on a social

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Speaker 2: media We hear a lot of college coaches complaining about

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01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 2: the landscape, and you know how difficult it is for

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01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 2: them to do their jobs relative to what it was

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01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:43,840
Speaker 2: like just a few years ago. Some coaches leave. Some

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01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 2: coaches decide this isn't for me. Tony Bennett at Virginia

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01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:54,639
Speaker 2: National Championship winning coach to a degree, Jay Wright, maybe

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Speaker 2: Nick Saban, A whole lot of coaches will tell you

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Speaker 2: what the problem is. I appreciate the ones who are like,

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01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 2: you know what, this ain't for me, So I'm leaving.

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Speaker 2: So I present to you now. Former Montana head football

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Speaker 2: coach Bobby Holck, the dealing with.

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Speaker 15: Agents and the transient nature of this, and the lack

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01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 15: of forward thinking by young people, which it's never been

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01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:29,680
Speaker 15: a strong suit for centuries for young people, but now

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01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:34,080
Speaker 15: when they've got adults pushing them and pulling them in

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Speaker 15: different directions, and I just I kind of got tired

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Speaker 15: of all that dealing with agents and.

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Speaker 2: The transient nature of it.

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Speaker 15: So I mean this, this wasn't like I don't know

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Speaker 15: if you said, did you just say straw that broke

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Speaker 15: the Campbell's back?

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Speaker 2: There was nothing like that. This is this has been residual.

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Speaker 2: The I appreciate the heck out of that. I appreciate

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Speaker 2: instead of NonStop complaining and not offering any real solo

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01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 2: or NonStop complaining and uh continuing to cash a check

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01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:08,520
Speaker 2: and I don't know how much that guy made at Montana,

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01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:12,560
Speaker 2: I appreciate somebody who's like, you know what, this just

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01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 2: isn't for me. And by the way, not every change

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Speaker 2: is for everybody. And the business that I work in.

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Speaker 2: You know, when when no longer doing a talk show

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01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 2: was enough and you had to have an internet presence

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01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 2: and be on social media and maybe change how you

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01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 2: had to do your show to adapt to modern sensibilities.

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01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:36,720
Speaker 2: There were a lot of awesome, awesome on air poke

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01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 2: on air people who simply said, you know what, had

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01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:43,720
Speaker 2: a good run, this, what it's turning into is not

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Speaker 2: for me. That's always going to happen when there's a

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01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 2: seismic change in any business. I appreciate somebody like that

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01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 2: is like, you know what, I'm out, I'm done. It's

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01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 2: for somebody else, it ain't for me. Instead of constantly

1645
01:34:57,280 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 2: telling us how hard their jobs are and never changing.

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01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 2: Good for him. It's my new favorite. Twenty eight for five.

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01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:07,640
Speaker 2: Evan Cohen is one of my favorite hosts. You hear

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01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 2: his show every morning on ESPN fifteen thirty, broadcasting this

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01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 2: week from San Francisco. He'll join us next.

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Speaker 6: S Natti's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 8: experts that you see health for innovative and personalized heart care.

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Speaker 8: They never miss a beat Your heart shouldn't either. Schedule

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Speaker 8: to an accident another crash on southbound seventy one approaching

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Speaker 8: Martin Luther King Drive. That's in the left two lanes

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Speaker 8: and northbound seventy five after Hoppel there's an accident off

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Speaker 8: onto the right shoulder. I'm at Eazelic with traffic, Cincinnati

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Speaker 8: Sports Station, Sports Station.

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Speaker 6: This is ESPN fifteen thirty.

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01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 2: Do you hear Evan Cohen? Evan Cohen every weekday morning

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01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 2: from six to ten, one of the hosts of unsportsmanlike

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01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 2: excuse me, with Michelle Smallman and and Chris Canty. Chris

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01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 2: is in New York while Evan and Michelle are in

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01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 2: San Francisco broadcasting from the super Bowl. So that's like

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01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:20,840
Speaker 2: three am local time. What time you got to get up?

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Speaker 10: Mo?

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01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:26,240
Speaker 4: I am up at one fifteen. We got an uber

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01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:29,760
Speaker 4: over to the hotel to the Radio Row area at

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Speaker 4: one forty am. And then you know, doing all show prep,

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01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:36,680
Speaker 4: hair makeup for TV, which I need a lot of,

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01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:38,880
Speaker 4: beginning at two am and then on the air at

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Speaker 4: three am. And yet Michelle and I are here. Can't

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01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 4: he just had a baby? Well, his wife did. That

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01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:46,680
Speaker 4: would be weird if he did. But his wife had

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01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:48,760
Speaker 4: a baby, and so he's back in New York with

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Speaker 4: his young son.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who should thank who more? Us for

1680
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:56,639
Speaker 2: you guys, you know, giving this Bengals content nearly every morning,

1681
01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:59,559
Speaker 2: or the Bengals for giving you an endless treasure trove

1682
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:01,800
Speaker 2: stuff to talk about this football season.

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Speaker 4: You know, Mo, It's interesting because we have we have

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Speaker 4: become I don't want to say a Bengals show because

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01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 4: that would be like I don't want to mislead the audi,

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Speaker 4: the great audience in Cincy. But we talk about the

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01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:17,640
Speaker 4: Bengals a lot. Yeah, Joe Burrow has become, as you know,

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01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:20,920
Speaker 4: a lightning rod for us because of the fact that,

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Speaker 4: you know, I think initially, if I'm going to be real,

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01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:29,600
Speaker 4: initially it was our takes and analysis around our assumptions

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Speaker 4: of Burrow slash the Bengals, Right, I'm not saying that

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01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:34,600
Speaker 4: they were out of line, but it was more of like,

1693
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:37,840
Speaker 4: here's what we think and here's what we think could

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01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 4: be going on. Can't He obviously knows this stuff inside

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01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 4: and now because he played. But over the last year,

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01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:46,599
Speaker 4: I think it's been they have given us tangible audio

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01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:50,759
Speaker 4: to work off of, to become a hot topic almost

1698
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:54,879
Speaker 4: on a regular basis, and especially the quarterback at times.

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01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 4: And I know you spent a ton of time on

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01:37:56,439 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 4: this alluding to the idea of hypothetical possible retire or

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01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 4: moving on from Cincy.

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01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, which, like we've gone we've gone this route down

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Speaker 2: this road before, right, We've done this with Carson Palmer.

1704
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:12,519
Speaker 2: And so you know, folks get mad at us, and frankly,

1705
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 2: like I'll hear it from from listeners of your show here,

1706
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:18,960
Speaker 2: who are like, why why are they trying to why

1707
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 2: are they trying to create a Joe Burrow Bengals divorce?

1708
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 2: And my take is, like, what would make Joe Burrow

1709
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 2: any different from the endless list of players who have

1710
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 2: sought their way out of Cincinnati?

1711
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:29,800
Speaker 10: That's right.

1712
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:33,040
Speaker 4: And you know what's funny is Kanty, to his credit,

1713
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:36,320
Speaker 4: doesn't just do it about Burrow. If you notice, and

1714
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:38,880
Speaker 4: I know you have, almost every time that he has

1715
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:42,559
Speaker 4: brought up Burrow, he has brought up Ken Anderson, He's

1716
01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:46,640
Speaker 4: brought up Boomer, He's brought up obviously Carson Palmer and

1717
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:51,440
Speaker 4: all of the other Cincinnati quarterbacks that were almost champions

1718
01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 4: right and almost there or wanted to leave at some

1719
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:57,639
Speaker 4: point or another, or asked out and had a forced

1720
01:38:57,680 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 4: retirement as a way of getting to another franchise. So

1721
01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:02,679
Speaker 4: he's not doing it and we're not doing it out

1722
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 4: of nowhere. Unfortunately, there is a history of this, like,

1723
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 4: if you look at it, Cincinnati QB drama is in

1724
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:15,639
Speaker 4: a way a a kin to Green Bay QUB lineage,

1725
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:17,840
Speaker 4: Like Oh, one's going to hand off to the other

1726
01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:20,280
Speaker 4: in green Bay, where in Cincinnati one's going to act

1727
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 4: out after another.

1728
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, Boomer ended poorly, Carson ended poorly, Joe Burrow.

1729
01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:29,760
Speaker 2: Who knows how it's going to end. But if it

1730
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 2: continues to go the way it has, I don't know

1731
01:39:33,160 --> 01:39:36,280
Speaker 2: why people suddenly assume like he'll be the exception, it'll

1732
01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:38,639
Speaker 2: be any different. History, if you use it as a guide,

1733
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:40,960
Speaker 2: would suggest that that's not going to be the case.

1734
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:43,120
Speaker 2: I hear all the time though, from folks here who

1735
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:46,360
Speaker 2: ask me this. And you know, we've had him on

1736
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:49,320
Speaker 2: and he's been great to us. But it sounds at

1737
01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 2: times like when it comes to the Bengals, you and

1738
01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 2: Michelle are the voice of reason and Chris Canty hates

1739
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:55,760
Speaker 2: the Bengals. People say that to me, What would you

1740
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:56,120
Speaker 2: say to that?

1741
01:39:57,080 --> 01:39:58,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think he hates the Bengals at all.

1742
01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:04,240
Speaker 4: I think what he hates is organizations not supporting players

1743
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:07,919
Speaker 4: who do right by the organization and who he believes

1744
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 4: should be supported. I think it's I think it's just

1745
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 4: that I think like what he gets bothered by is

1746
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:19,040
Speaker 4: the idea of how can Joe Burrow, Tamar Chase, et

1747
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:22,240
Speaker 4: cetera do more for the Bengals and why do they

1748
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 4: put them through this?

1749
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:24,440
Speaker 10: This Rigamaroor?

1750
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:28,720
Speaker 4: Why did that? And I understand that Shamar Stewart, you know,

1751
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:32,240
Speaker 4: wasn't exactly a home run, but the idea of going

1752
01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 4: through all of that. Trey Henderson, same thing. I think,

1753
01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:39,719
Speaker 4: just very simply, you're talking about a guy in Kanty

1754
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:42,760
Speaker 4: that played eleven years in the NFL, he won a

1755
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:45,640
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, and he believes that those that contribute to

1756
01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:48,280
Speaker 4: a team in a positive way should be rewarded.

1757
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:51,680
Speaker 2: Evan Cohen with us on sportsman Like Weekday Mornings on

1758
01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 2: ESPN Radio ESPN fifteen thirty Evan and Michelle broadcasting from

1759
01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:56,960
Speaker 2: San Francisco.

1760
01:40:59,080 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 10: A quick question off of that.

1761
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:05,880
Speaker 4: Thought, Yeah, I triggedgar a thought. There's one era that

1762
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:09,720
Speaker 4: we did not just bring up in a weird way. God,

1763
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:12,479
Speaker 4: this is a weird question. In a weird way. Was

1764
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:15,840
Speaker 4: the Marvin Lewis Andy Dalton era underrated?

1765
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 2: Yes, including in real time because you know, unfortunately, what

1766
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:25,479
Speaker 2: hovered over Marvin and Andy's era are a lot of

1767
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:27,840
Speaker 2: things that they had nothing to do with. Right, they

1768
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 2: hadn't won a playoff game since nineteen ninety and so

1769
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:33,559
Speaker 2: we never talked about that duo. We never talked about

1770
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:36,840
Speaker 2: those teams in championship. In championship terms, it was always

1771
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:39,840
Speaker 2: can they win one playoff game? And then once they

1772
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:42,320
Speaker 2: started to get to the postseason year after year after year,

1773
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 2: we got to a point where we took for granted

1774
01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:47,920
Speaker 2: that success, all the while never really talking about them

1775
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:51,200
Speaker 2: in legitimate championship terms. And I look back on that

1776
01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 2: stretch with a great amount of fondness, Like, look, I

1777
01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:56,560
Speaker 2: was here for the nineties. I grew up here in

1778
01:41:56,680 --> 01:42:00,439
Speaker 2: the nineties watching the Bengals be totally irrelevant. Rvind and

1779
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:03,600
Speaker 2: Andy almost every year were relevant, and I thought in

1780
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:05,800
Speaker 2: real time that was underrated.

1781
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:09,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, because in a way, look at the Seahawks, right,

1782
01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:11,599
Speaker 4: not not to just tie it to the Super Bowl.

1783
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:14,080
Speaker 4: I think they're the most underrated franchise in the NFL.

1784
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:16,280
Speaker 4: And if you look at the last you know, twenty

1785
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:18,880
Speaker 4: plus years, they had three iterations of a Super Bowl team.

1786
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:22,519
Speaker 4: Coaching quarterback Combo Home grind haffle Back, Carol Wilson and

1787
01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:25,519
Speaker 4: now obviously McDonald and Darnold. But for the most part,

1788
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:28,800
Speaker 4: they're pretty good every year. Like they never were embarrassingly bad.

1789
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 4: And obviously the Bengals have had bad years, but for

1790
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 4: the most part in that time with Marvin Lewis and

1791
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 4: Andy Dalton, they were like pretty good every year. They

1792
01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 4: didn't want playoff games, but.

1793
01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:37,439
Speaker 10: They were just pretty good every year.

1794
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:39,799
Speaker 4: And there's a lot of teams that have been stinky

1795
01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:40,760
Speaker 4: and they weren't that.

1796
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:45,559
Speaker 2: I think that's the first interview we've done where somebody

1797
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 2: has used the word stinky. I need you to elaborate

1798
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:51,800
Speaker 2: on something for me. Okay, Yeah, So this morning I

1799
01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:55,040
Speaker 2: dropped my daughter off at school at like quarter after eight,

1800
01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:58,840
Speaker 2: and I'm listening and you're talking about your kids come

1801
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:02,080
Speaker 2: home from school and you come empty their backpack. And

1802
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:04,320
Speaker 2: my daughter, who's in the third grade, says to me,

1803
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:06,439
Speaker 2: you're not going to make me do that? Are you

1804
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:08,320
Speaker 2: so elaborate on that for me?

1805
01:43:08,479 --> 01:43:09,080
Speaker 10: What is that like?

1806
01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:11,240
Speaker 2: Kids come home and you say empty your backpack?

1807
01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:12,840
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1808
01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 4: I think mo, the way you're saying and the way

1809
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:20,120
Speaker 4: maybe I presented is sounds a little bit more intense

1810
01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:22,320
Speaker 4: than it was meant to be. It was more of

1811
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:25,320
Speaker 4: like like it was like that they're going through like

1812
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:27,800
Speaker 4: the police department. That's not what it is. What I'm

1813
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:30,760
Speaker 4: saying is I have a twelve year old and a

1814
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:32,760
Speaker 4: nine year old. You have what an eight year old?

1815
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:37,080
Speaker 2: Eight and a half? Now, yes, yeah, So what I'm.

1816
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:40,360
Speaker 4: Saying is I don't believe any kid voluntarily will do

1817
01:43:40,439 --> 01:43:42,240
Speaker 4: their homework on their own. And if you have a

1818
01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:44,560
Speaker 4: kid that had that is and she's able to do that,

1819
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 4: then you are.

1820
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:46,160
Speaker 10: The parent of the year.

1821
01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:48,880
Speaker 4: I am not, obviously, and I'm not blaming my wife,

1822
01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:52,080
Speaker 4: that's not me. But the reality is I always think

1823
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:54,600
Speaker 4: if I say, hey, just empty out your bag, a

1824
01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 4: couple of things happen. Number One, I learned in that

1825
01:43:57,120 --> 01:43:59,439
Speaker 4: moment if they have homework that night, because there'll be

1826
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:02,719
Speaker 4: works that are empty. I also will see what gross

1827
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 4: food somehow ended up in the lunch box in the bag.

1828
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:07,400
Speaker 10: And as people who are.

1829
01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 4: Not parents may not realize this, and you know this,

1830
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:13,040
Speaker 4: they all have devices now, so now I want to

1831
01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:14,880
Speaker 4: make sure, Okay, so you don't go to school with

1832
01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:17,680
Speaker 4: a dead laptop for tomorrow, let's charge that thing up.

1833
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 4: So this is more of just me trying to get

1834
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:22,840
Speaker 4: them into the habit of me being able to help them.

1835
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:24,519
Speaker 4: By me being able to help, I mean my wife's

1836
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:26,639
Speaker 4: being able to help because I'm an app with homework

1837
01:44:26,720 --> 01:44:28,280
Speaker 4: or whatever it is and making sure we know if

1838
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:29,800
Speaker 4: they have it. Is that that bad?

1839
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:31,280
Speaker 10: No, you know me, maybe.

1840
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:34,080
Speaker 2: It's not bad at all. But like now I'm listening.

1841
01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:36,799
Speaker 2: My daughter's in the car. She's listening, and she's wondering

1842
01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:38,439
Speaker 2: if that's what life is going to be like, And

1843
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:41,000
Speaker 2: the answer is now moving forward. Probably yes, even though

1844
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 2: I'm not there when she comes home because I work

1845
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:45,240
Speaker 2: in the afternoons. But nonetheless, yes, that might.

1846
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:49,519
Speaker 4: Be an interesting So now I have scared your daughter.

1847
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:52,080
Speaker 4: Your daughter has never met me, and your daughter is

1848
01:44:52,160 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 4: now afraid of you because of me.

1849
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 2: Well, she listens with me every day, so like you're right,

1850
01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:02,680
Speaker 2: but now I'm this scared, and I told her I'm

1851
01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:04,960
Speaker 2: gonna talk to Evan today and I'm gonna get an

1852
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:07,640
Speaker 2: answer and then things may change for you when it

1853
01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:10,320
Speaker 2: comes to your backpack. So you know, we'll see. So

1854
01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:11,680
Speaker 2: we're gonna have a conversation to me.

1855
01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:15,840
Speaker 4: You know, do you know every day? Be honest, do

1856
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:17,680
Speaker 4: you know if your daughter has homework every day.

1857
01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:21,679
Speaker 2: I do only because the teacher emails us like, which

1858
01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 2: is something I thank god. I didn't have that when

1859
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:26,559
Speaker 2: I was a kid. My teacher sending a note home

1860
01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:28,880
Speaker 2: every day going, yeah, here's the homework. It's got to

1861
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 2: be done by this time. So if I ask my

1862
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:33,320
Speaker 2: daughter about homework, I can go back to the email

1863
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:35,479
Speaker 2: and say, yeah, it says here, you've got this to do.

1864
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 10: Ah.

1865
01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:39,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I failed with that. They may be doing that

1866
01:45:39,320 --> 01:45:41,200
Speaker 4: and I'm gonnaware, so that's not a good thing.

1867
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 2: We'll see. Enjoy the West Coast, Enjoy Sunday. Can't thank

1868
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:48,960
Speaker 2: you enough. Always love having you, and we'll talk soon. Man,

1869
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:49,439
Speaker 2: thanks so much.

1870
01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:50,800
Speaker 4: Well, you're the best.

1871
01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:53,920
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Evan Cohen. Tomorrow Morning Unsportsmanlike with

1872
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:57,840
Speaker 2: Michelle Smallman and Chris Canty, starting at six am from

1873
01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:01,360
Speaker 2: San Francisco on ESPN fifteen thirty. Rick Brooring on the

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Speaker 2: Muskies and the Nors.

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Speaker 2: We're just a little bit away from the pregame show

1886
01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:48,000
Speaker 2: NKU and Green Bay tonight. Jim Kelchin, Rick Boring on

1887
01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:50,840
Speaker 2: the call, Norris trying to break a four game losing streak.

1888
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:53,800
Speaker 2: Rick Bororing is with us. Let's talk about the Musketeers first.

1889
01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:57,760
Speaker 2: Rick runs Musketeer Report dot Com. Here's my basic analysis

1890
01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:00,160
Speaker 2: of last night's game. Yukon is one of the has

1891
01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:02,920
Speaker 2: two or three teams in the country, Xavier is not,

1892
01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:06,280
Speaker 2: and so a game like last night, while maybe not inevitable,

1893
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 2: it is what usually is going to happen when those

1894
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 2: two teams play. I bring you on to give me

1895
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:13,080
Speaker 2: deeper analysis than that. Go ahead.

1896
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 5: I gotta be honest, I think he kind of nailed

1897
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:19,800
Speaker 5: it pretty spot on there. Austin Elmore and Tony Pike

1898
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:22,360
Speaker 5: had me on yesterday and they Austin was telling me

1899
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:24,519
Speaker 5: that he had a feeling Xavier was going to win,

1900
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 5: and they asked me to tell them what it would

1901
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:32,320
Speaker 5: take for that to happen, and I said a natural disaster. So, yeah,

1902
01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 5: I think that's about right. Zavier has no chance of

1903
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:37,040
Speaker 5: beating Yukon this year. Yukon would beat them ten out

1904
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:39,439
Speaker 5: of ten times. Not only are they superior at every

1905
01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:43,000
Speaker 5: position on the floor, but they also are a terrible

1906
01:47:43,040 --> 01:47:45,000
Speaker 5: matchup for Xavier. Like they're just type of stuff that

1907
01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:47,080
Speaker 5: they run and they do on both ends of the floor,

1908
01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:49,800
Speaker 5: take Xavier out of what they want to do on

1909
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:52,360
Speaker 5: both ends of the floor, and so it just really

1910
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 5: makes for a disasters matchup. I mean, they won the

1911
01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:57,320
Speaker 5: two games against the Musketeers by what like an average

1912
01:47:57,360 --> 01:48:02,560
Speaker 5: of twenty seven points games. So I think we have

1913
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:05,719
Speaker 5: enough evidence to say that it's just not a good matchup.

1914
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:09,040
Speaker 2: It's a night where you kind of understand that's what's

1915
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:11,920
Speaker 2: gonna happen when you complay Xavier. It makes the games

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Speaker 2: they let get out of way stick out more in.

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Speaker 5: My opinion, Yeah, I think so. But it also, in

1918
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Speaker 5: my opinion, is a little bit of a sobering reminder

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Speaker 5: about like, hey, you know some of those games where

1920
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Speaker 5: you know, they give up a sixteen point second half

1921
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Speaker 5: lead to Saint John's and at home, and you think, well,

1922
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Speaker 5: they should have won that one. How'd they give it away?

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Speaker 5: Maybe they're doing a hell of a job to get

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Speaker 5: to that point where they had a sixteen point win,

1925
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Speaker 5: because base on what I'm seeing in the game like

1926
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Speaker 5: last nights, their talent does not stack up to the

1927
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Speaker 5: top teams in the conference. So you know, it's it's

1928
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Speaker 5: I mean, you could really read it multiple different ways,

1929
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Speaker 5: but a game like last night's is just so the

1930
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Speaker 5: talent discrepancy is so glaring to me when those team

1931
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Speaker 5: two teams match up, and it's honestly exactly what I

1932
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Speaker 5: expected from Xavier before they started this season. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I know, we go back to your preview show we

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Speaker 5: had with us and you looked at me and said,

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Speaker 5: you think Xavier's gonna lose twenty games this year? That's

1936
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Speaker 5: that's insane. But that's really where it came from, is

1937
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Speaker 5: just they don't have the talent that we're used to

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Speaker 5: seeing in this conference, and that Xavier.

1939
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Speaker 2: I have an idea, though, here's here's a possible quick

1940
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Speaker 2: fix and tell me how you feel about this. What

1941
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Speaker 2: you do is you find some guys who like got

1942
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Speaker 2: to the NBA but aren't in the NBA anymore, get

1943
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Speaker 2: them lawyers and get them to sue the NCAA so

1944
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Speaker 2: they can get temporary injunctions to come play for the Musketeers.

1945
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Speaker 5: Here's the problem with that. Are any of those dudes

1946
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Speaker 5: any good? Like, is anybody doing anything with those guy?

1947
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Speaker 5: I hear it about it happening and everyone gets so mad.

1948
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Speaker 5: Are those guys doing anything?

1949
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Speaker 8: No?

1950
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Speaker 5: Like, I think there's one, maybe one that's had some success, but.

1951
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Speaker 2: Other than that, like, all these guys stink.

1952
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Speaker 5: They're not an NBA teams for a reason. They're losers,

1953
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Speaker 5: you know, Like, I mean, that's that's the problem with it,

1954
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Speaker 5: And they're not They're not about the things that you

1955
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Speaker 5: need them to be about to fit into your team

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Speaker 5: and win at a high level in college basketball. I

1957
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Speaker 5: don't think like a lot of these teams are missing

1958
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Speaker 5: a one off, almost NBA type talent that couldn't cut

1959
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Speaker 5: it because he didn't have the work, ethic or culture

1960
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Speaker 5: to succeed in the pros.

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Speaker 2: It's funny you say that because I saw James Nagy

1962
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Speaker 2: for Baylor play against UC last week, right, and I

1963
01:50:17,840 --> 01:50:20,000
Speaker 2: don't think he did anything in the game. He played

1964
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Speaker 2: seven or eight minutes. Maybe he grabbed a rebound. Like

1965
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Speaker 2: unless I said to you, James Nagy is on the floor,

1966
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Speaker 2: you would know. And I'm going all right, Like, I

1967
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Speaker 2: understand why people don't like this. I don't like this,

1968
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Speaker 2: but is this really worth making a fuss over the

1969
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Speaker 2: fact that this guy's playing college ball for a team

1970
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Speaker 2: that's not going anywhere and he's having zero impact on

1971
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Speaker 2: the floor.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, the mo I don't blame the fans.

1973
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Speaker 5: The fans should be upset about it. That loser behavior.

1974
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Speaker 5: Guys coming back to do that as loser behavior, and

1975
01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:52,120
Speaker 5: the coaches who are bringing them back is loser behavior.

1976
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Speaker 5: What I can't understand is what are these coaches doing

1977
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:58,600
Speaker 5: this for. It's not worth it. And also you're just

1978
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Speaker 5: outing yourself as a guy who who wants to skirt

1979
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Speaker 5: the rules that you know. I understand that guys are

1980
01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:06,599
Speaker 5: being being paid now and the sport is different than

1981
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:09,800
Speaker 5: it's ever been, but they have clearly, the NCBAA has

1982
01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:12,280
Speaker 5: clearly come out and said that what they're doing with

1983
01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:15,160
Speaker 5: these former professionals that have that have played for NBA teams,

1984
01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:17,439
Speaker 5: or have signed NBA contracts, or have been drafted and

1985
01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:19,559
Speaker 5: are now trying to come back, and they're getting legal

1986
01:51:19,640 --> 01:51:22,840
Speaker 5: injunctions in courts. Atala said, we do not approve of this.

1987
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Speaker 5: This is going against everything we're asking you guys to do.

1988
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Speaker 5: You're blatantly cheating at this point and just using the

1989
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Speaker 5: courts to do so. I mean, at what point do

1990
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Speaker 5: we start blaming the adults and the presidents of the

1991
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Speaker 5: universities and the coaches, Like that's the one that I

1992
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Speaker 5: don't understand.

1993
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Speaker 2: Why are you doing all of this?

1994
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Speaker 5: You're destroying the sport to get guys like James Nazi

1995
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Speaker 5: elible eligible?

1996
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Speaker 4: Why?

1997
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I just I watched him and went like,

1998
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Speaker 2: I don't see the fuss. I don't see the reason

1999
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Speaker 2: for the fuss. Like, all right, he's playing for a

2000
01:51:52,920 --> 01:51:55,519
Speaker 2: bad Baylor team and he's not helping and so so

2001
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Speaker 2: this is worth alienating yourself for. This is worth undoing

2002
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Speaker 2: decades of NCAA rules. Say what you want about him,

2003
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Speaker 2: This is worth undoing all that for it doesn't make

2004
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Speaker 2: much sense what has happened to the Nkau Norse.

2005
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Speaker 5: And it's a good question. I think right now, the

2006
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:16,880
Speaker 5: big concern is where are they at from a health perspective.

2007
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Speaker 5: I mean, you're talking about that last game at Oakland.

2008
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Speaker 5: You're down four of your top seven once Kel Robinson

2009
01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:25,720
Speaker 5: sprained his ankle in that game, and now I don't

2010
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Speaker 5: know where he's at going forward. So you're already dealing

2011
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Speaker 5: with l J Wells and Ethan Elliott and Donovan Rocoton

2012
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Speaker 5: on a harrial. Now you throw Kel Robinson into that

2013
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Speaker 5: mix as an injured player, and it's like, you know,

2014
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Speaker 5: some of these guys are going to start coming back

2015
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Speaker 5: at maybe as soon as tonight, but where are they

2016
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Speaker 5: going to be? They're not one hundred percent right now.

2017
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Speaker 5: I know that based on what we've seen in shoot

2018
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Speaker 5: arounds and practices and those guys trying.

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Speaker 2: To work their way back.

2020
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Speaker 5: So that's that's the most frustrating and the most difficult

2021
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Speaker 5: part of all this is you can look at the

2022
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Speaker 5: schedule and see a path for them to have success

2023
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Speaker 5: down the stretch. Here. They've got a little bit of

2024
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Speaker 5: a lighter schedule compared to some of the other teams

2025
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Speaker 5: that around them in the standings. The more difficult games

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Speaker 5: that they have to play are at home instead of

2027
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Speaker 5: on the road. So the path is there for them

2028
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Speaker 5: to do what they typically do under Darren Horn, which

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Speaker 5: in the month of February they win about seventy three

2030
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Speaker 5: percent of their games during Darren Horn's tenure. The question

2031
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Speaker 5: is are they going to be healthy enough to pull

2032
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Speaker 5: that off this year?

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Speaker 2: Can a fully healthy NKU team win the Horizon League Tournament?

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Speaker 5: I think they can now. To be clear, Right State

2035
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Speaker 5: deserves to be called the best team in the conference,

2036
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Speaker 5: There's no doubt about that. And Oakland would clearly have

2037
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Speaker 5: an argument that they're better than NKU since they've beaten

2038
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Speaker 5: them twice. That being said, Wright State was the only

2039
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Speaker 5: team that I've seen playing KU this year that looked

2040
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Speaker 5: like they soundly beat the Norse and that you wouldn't

2041
01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:42,800
Speaker 5: feel like, oh, I MK, you's got a pretty good

2042
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Speaker 5: chance in a rematch. Now that's not to say the

2043
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:47,960
Speaker 5: Right States invincible and they have no chance against them,

2044
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Speaker 5: But in my mind, I still think there aren't many

2045
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Speaker 5: teams that have four guys that can go out and

2046
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Speaker 5: give you twenty plus points on any given night like

2047
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Speaker 5: NKU has. Now. Cal Robinson's not healthy that changes that

2048
01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:01,679
Speaker 5: a little bit, and obviously he's been a shooting slump

2049
01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:04,840
Speaker 5: as well, but even still three guys being able to

2050
01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:07,040
Speaker 5: give you those types of scoring performances. It's a lot

2051
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Speaker 5: of firepower when you get in the Horizon League one

2052
01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:13,000
Speaker 5: game winner takes all scenario. I don't think a lot

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01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:15,160
Speaker 5: of teams want to see NKU if they have a

2054
01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:17,360
Speaker 5: little bit of a bit of momentum. The problem is

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Speaker 5: for the Norse fans that you gotta find the momentum first.

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Speaker 2: Have a great call tonight, Thank you as always, Thanks

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Speaker 2: boll Rick Brooring Musketeer Report dot Com tomorrow, Chad Brenda

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Speaker 2: on the Bearcats U SEE plays West Virginia tomorrow, and

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Speaker 2: a whole bunch more. We are done. Show is over,

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Speaker 2: got to go. Thanks to Tarren Bland for producing. Thanks

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Speaker 2: to you for listening. Have an awesome night. This is

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