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Speaker 1: KF I Am six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp,

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Speaker 1: the House Whisper on demand on the iHeart Radio app.

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Speaker 1: I Am six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: I Am Dean Sharp, the House Whisperer, custom home Builder,

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Speaker 1: custom home Designer, inviting you to join me for the

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Speaker 1: next two hours in that magical space that exists somewhere

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Speaker 1: between the world as it is and the world as

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Speaker 1: it should be, as we work to turn your ordinary

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Speaker 1: house into an extraordinary home. It's an all calls weekend.

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Speaker 1: I love these weekends. I love taking your calls, talking

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Speaker 1: with you about what's going on with your home, and

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Speaker 1: you know, helping out if I can. So let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk to Evan. Evan Welcome home.

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Speaker 2: So my problem is I had a waterline break the

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Speaker 2: other night in my house. It's flooded the square bed

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Speaker 2: and bathroom and the hallway all the way into where

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Speaker 2: the dining room and living room is. It boreped the floor,

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Speaker 2: and so my insurance adjuster is telling me they can't

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Speaker 2: match it. I won't be able to match it. So

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Speaker 2: they're going to pay to replace the entire floor, the

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Speaker 2: wood floor area.

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Speaker 3: In the house.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: And my question to you is people are.

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Speaker 2: Telling me to go with vinyl laminae, to.

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Speaker 3: Go with a hard another hardwood, and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Asking what your recommendations might be.

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Speaker 1: Okay, really good question. So Evan, what was the water

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Speaker 1: line that busted? Is it in the slab? Is it

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Speaker 1: something overhead? Tell them give me a little more space overhead?

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Speaker 1: It was overhead.

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Speaker 2: It was over fine, and the joint.

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Speaker 3: Failed and it was raining.

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Speaker 2: And my wife woke me up but ten thirty at

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Speaker 2: night and said, the house is flooding And it was

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Speaker 2: just literally flooding out of the Yeah, the overhead fan,

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Speaker 2: the air conditioning vent around it.

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Speaker 3: Who was just raining water everywhere?

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Speaker 1: What a mess. I'm sorry to hear that. Okay, here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. If you are if you guys wanted hardwood,

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Speaker 1: if you've always wanted hardwood, if hardwood is the thing,

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Speaker 1: I know your gun you're feeling gun shy because of

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Speaker 1: this disaster that just happened. But if we're confident that

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Speaker 1: we've addressed the problem, addressed the leak, if we're confident

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Speaker 1: with the rest of the system, then you don't go

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Speaker 1: back with hardwood again. I'm not a I'm not a

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Speaker 1: big fan of compromising the design of a house just

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Speaker 1: because we get gun shy or we're afraid as the

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Speaker 1: result of an accident that has happened before. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, It's kind of like it's like it's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, the kids on the skateboard outside, he falls

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Speaker 1: and and he broke his leg. Okay, we get it.

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Speaker 1: We're riding a skateboard that can happen. Once the leg heals,

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Speaker 1: the parents who now wrap that kid up in like

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Speaker 1: six layers of insulating foam on all the legs and

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Speaker 1: has an oversized helmet and goggles. And you know, it's

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Speaker 1: kind of like the kid who wears a helmet in

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Speaker 1: goggles when they goes to chess club because the chance

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Speaker 1: there's there's a chance one of those pieces could fly

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Speaker 1: off the board and put an eye out.

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Speaker 4: So to make I mean, we just ye just had

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Speaker 4: new carpet and new wood grain ceramic tile put in

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Speaker 4: the bathrooms two weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And so my wife's like, well do we match

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Speaker 2: the ceramic tile, And I'm like, well, the people that

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Speaker 2: installed it with the price is going to be like

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Speaker 2: thirty grand to do it.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think the wood forest thing replaced bad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know you the insurance is going to

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Speaker 1: pay for and should pay pay out for the replacement

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Speaker 1: of what you've got. So if it's hardwood, they should

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Speaker 1: write you a check equivalent to redoing it all. In

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Speaker 1: replacing hardwood, if you want to move up to the

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Speaker 1: ceramic tile. From a design perspective, that kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: kills two birds with one stone in that a ceramic

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Speaker 1: plank floor is going to be bomb proof throughout the

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Speaker 1: whole house and continuous flooring so that there's no change

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Speaker 1: that isn't a necessity. So yeah, if you put in

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Speaker 1: luxury vinyl plank, that's what we're talking about. If you

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Speaker 1: put in luxury vinyl plank, yeah, it is now a

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Speaker 1: waterproof and bomb proof throughout the whole house. And if

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Speaker 1: ruin a luxury vinyl plank floor. However, luxury vinyl plank

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Speaker 1: is not the same as real hardwood. It is an

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Speaker 1: emulation of hardwood. It's really good looking stuff. It's also

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Speaker 1: way cheaper than hardwood. So I think you guys just

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Speaker 1: have to sit down and make a decision of both

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Speaker 1: the other because there's no right answer to it. The

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Speaker 1: fact of the matter is, if we were always afraid

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Speaker 1: that a pipe would burst in any house, we'd never

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Speaker 1: put hardwood in any house ever, right because it's moisture

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Speaker 1: sensitive and there's just no way around that right now.

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Speaker 1: We don't have the technology to get around that right now.

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Speaker 1: So I want you to have confidence in your plumbing system.

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Speaker 1: I want your plumbing system rechecked, okay, especially if it's

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Speaker 1: a peck system. Those joints should not be failing. So

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Speaker 1: if you're confident that, okay, the plumbing issue has been resolved,

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Speaker 1: then I know, you know it's always natural to feel

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Speaker 1: gunshy after a big blow, but you know, why not

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Speaker 1: put hardwood back? If hardwood is what you really want.

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Speaker 1: This revinyl plank is great. So just to be clear,

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Speaker 1: the insurance company should is obligated to replace everything at

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Speaker 1: the cost of the hardwood. If you want to turn around,

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Speaker 1: then and do the luxury vinyl plank and save yourself

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Speaker 1: some money as you go great, or take the payout

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Speaker 1: for the hardwood, and then throw a little extra of

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Speaker 1: yours in and go porcelain plank everywhere. That's a good

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Speaker 1: way too. Both of those choices would be bomb proof,

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Speaker 1: and the hardwood choice gets you back to where you

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Speaker 1: would go. So those are really your three options, and

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Speaker 1: it's ultimately a design decision for you and your wife

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Speaker 1: to work out. Just try to avoid feeling gun shy

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Speaker 1: because you just had this disaster. I know that's a

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Speaker 1: hard thing to do, but do your best with it. Evan,

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Speaker 1: thanks for the call, buddy. I love our listeners questions.

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Speaker 1: They stretch my brain. How about some more of your

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Speaker 1: calls when we return. You are listening to Home, would

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Speaker 1: Dean show the house whisper?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 1: If I Dean sharp the house whisper at your service,

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Speaker 1: Welcome home. We are doing an all calls weekend, So

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Speaker 1: let's go back to the phone, shall we. Carol, Hey, Carol,

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Speaker 1: welcome home.

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Speaker 5: Hi, thank you. I'm growing a dragon fruit and I'm

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Speaker 5: making a dragon fruit trellis. I'm using a four x

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Speaker 5: four redwood post attached to a concrete block post support

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Speaker 5: that has a zinc coated strap. I'm going to place

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Speaker 5: that into a twenty five gallon hard plastic nursery grade pot.

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Speaker 3: Fill it with soil.

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Speaker 5: And the reason I'm using this trellis is for stability

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Speaker 5: because they get kind of heavy at the top. My

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Speaker 5: question is will the strap or the concrete leach harmful

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Speaker 5: chemicals into the soil which will go into the roots

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Speaker 5: then eventually into the fruit.

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Speaker 1: Uh no, no it won't.

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Speaker 5: Oh wonderful, Okay, that's all I wanted to thank you.

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Speaker 2: That was so easy, That was so easy.

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Speaker 6: You made my day.

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Speaker 7: Thanks you, Carol, Thank you, enjoy your show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you by bye, Thank you so much. Uh yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: you know, concrete is concrete. There are a lot of

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Speaker 1: different forms of concrete. Concrete is a combination of an

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Speaker 1: aggregate sand of different sizes, sand, gravel, and cement portland

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Speaker 1: cement most of the time, Uh it is. It is

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Speaker 1: not a material that it leaches out harmful things to

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Speaker 1: a garden. Somebody else asked about cinder blocks too, and

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Speaker 1: cinder blocks are also cinder blocks are different than standard concrete.

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Speaker 1: By the way. Uh did you guys know that? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well you probably you can tell. Right when you take

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Speaker 1: a look at a cinder block, it's made out of concrete.

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Speaker 1: So it's a combination of concrete and fly ash. What

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Speaker 1: is fly ash? It's the leftover ash from burning coal. Yeah, cinders,

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Speaker 1: That's where the cinder in cinder block comes from. Cinders

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Speaker 1: of burnt coal. Carbonized coal ash gets added into a

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Speaker 1: cement concrete mixture, and because the cinders are so lightweight

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Speaker 1: and they take up space, the cinder block ends up

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Speaker 1: being considerably lighter than it would be if it was

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Speaker 1: just a pure poored cement block. Also, though it's not

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Speaker 1: as strong, but you know, it does its job. So

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Speaker 1: there you go. But none of those things are dangerous

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Speaker 1: to the soil around them. My goodness, how does he

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Speaker 1: know these things? Tuck to Debbie, Hey, Debbie, welcome home.

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Speaker 7: Many years ago our new house, it had a spa

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Speaker 7: that had to be taken out because I had a

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Speaker 7: crack at it, and I installed one in place of it,

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Speaker 7: but never had it connected. And now that I want

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Speaker 7: to do it, Fellas said, well it's indoors. You can't

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Speaker 7: hook it up inside. You've got to move it outdoors

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Speaker 7: and pay you six thousand dollars. So I really wasn't

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Speaker 7: too happy about that because I thought, well, the heck

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Speaker 7: with it. That thing costs a little more than that,

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Speaker 7: but you know, you know, it has two seats, and

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Speaker 7: you know the jets whatever all they come with, so

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Speaker 7: maybe they won't stuff you, but it stumps me. And

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Speaker 7: I hate to part with six thousand dollars for something

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Speaker 7: that costs just a little more than that.

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Speaker 1: I got you, all right, So let me ask you,

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Speaker 1: so is this a Is this a free standing spa

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Speaker 1: like a fiberglass spa sitting on its own platform and

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Speaker 1: all that. Okay, yes it is.

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Speaker 7: It's on wheels or whatever. I don't know what it's on,

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Speaker 7: but anyway, it's movable. You know, it's a thermal spat.

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Speaker 1: That helps Benny right now, why does he Why did

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Speaker 1: he tell you it was going to cost you six

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars to move it outside?

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Speaker 7: Well, he said it couldn't be hooked up indoors, and

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Speaker 7: it's it needs to be at two thirty lamps.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, needs it needs two hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: two hundred and forty. Actually we call two twenty, but

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Speaker 1: it's actually two forty. It needs a two forty hookup

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Speaker 1: power hookup. All right, that's understandable.

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Speaker 8: But here's the thing with code. Okay, yeah, that's in

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Speaker 8: codes like when so convenient. I okay, So here's what

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna recommend to you. I want you to call

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Speaker 8: somebody else. Okay, Now there's a half truth here. Okay,

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Speaker 8: the half truth is, yeah, it is a mess. By

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Speaker 8: the way, never, never, never, should they have had that

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Speaker 8: spa indoors.

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Speaker 1: It just shouldn't be. And there's a reason why we

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Speaker 1: don't want you to put a spa like that indoor.

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Speaker 1: You think about this like an indoor spa at like

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Speaker 1: a health club or a gym. Okay, these are built

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Speaker 1: in by allowance with like an indoor pool. But to

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Speaker 1: build an indoor and I've done my share of indoor

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Speaker 1: pools and spas, by the way, because I've had some

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Speaker 1: clients who have been super happy to pay for them.

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Speaker 1: But the structure that you have to build around that

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Speaker 1: in terms of airflow of ventilation to get the chlorine

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Speaker 1: gases that seep out of these bodies of water a

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Speaker 1: pool and a spa. Also the heat, the mist, the

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Speaker 1: humidity that builds up as the ringin. There's just there's

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of things that go into it, and

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Speaker 1: it is almost always all well, it's always a mistake

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Speaker 3: My family lives in a thirty five hundred square foot,

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Speaker 3: needs a similar upgrade. We have hardwood cabinets that we like.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I got you. Well, good on you,

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Speaker 1: a second. I have no issues whatsoever with hardwood countertops, none,

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Speaker 1: Sharp the House whisper, Welcome home. We're going back to

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Speaker 3: Hi, Dean.

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Speaker 9: My is a shower that I need to totally remodel

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Speaker 1: Okay, good questions. Yeah, yes to all of the above,

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Speaker 1: It's only achilles heel. In the kitchen is really heat

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Speaker 1: But in the shower that's never going to be an

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Speaker 1: Quartz is not going to be as beautiful in most

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Speaker 1: people's opinion as a natural stone like quartzite or granite

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Speaker 1: is you got to keep them sealed. But if you

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Speaker 1: I would say. Some marble guy out there is saying

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Speaker 1: twice a year, Dean K fine, once or twice a year.

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Speaker 1: But you keep them sealed and you'll have no problem.

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Speaker 1: It's a that's a life long, beautiful shower scenario. Now,

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Speaker 1: as far as the ceiling is concerned, how tall is

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Speaker 1: the ceiling in the shower?

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Speaker 5: Eight feet?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so it's an eight foot And are you planning

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Speaker 1: on ever using this shower as a steam shower?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So my general feeling is we default to putting

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Speaker 1: because water condensates up above. But is that a guarantee

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Speaker 1: if you don't that you're going to have a drywall problems?

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Speaker 1: Number one, if you use green board, which you should

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Speaker 1: up there, green board drywall, which is a moisture resistant drywall,

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Speaker 1: and you use a moisture resistant paint in the bathroom area,

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Speaker 1: something really good like an Aura bath and spa from

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Speaker 1: Benjamin Moore sponsored the show. But an Aura bath and

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Speaker 1: of that steam. So if we've got good ventilation, if

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Speaker 1: moisture inside the shower chamber, then you really are not

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Speaker 1: going to have a problem running a painted ceiling in there. However,

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Speaker 1: the bomb proof solution is always to, you know, take

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Speaker 1: and pop them up there as well. When you do, though,

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Speaker 1: let me be clear, if you're going to have a

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Speaker 1: painted ceiling, you can just run a standard ceiling through.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to put a a hard surface up there,

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Speaker 1: like marble, Let's say you're doing marble on the walls

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna put marble overhead, you're gonna want to

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Speaker 1: slope that ceiling ever so slightly. Don't put it up

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Speaker 1: completely level, put it in on the tiniest of slope.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about an eighth of an inch per foot slope,

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Speaker 1: just ever so slightly sloped from the shower door back

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Speaker 1: sloped down towards the back shower wall. Why because if

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Speaker 1: we put stone up there, it's a cold material, and

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Speaker 1: the steam and moisture that rises from your hot shower

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Speaker 1: will condensate very easily on that material, and as it

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Speaker 1: condensates and turns into droplets, what you don't want is

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Speaker 1: a cold rainforest dropping droplets of water on you while

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Speaker 1: you're taking your hot shower. And so what we do

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Speaker 1: is we pitch and slope that ceiling back so that

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Speaker 1: that water runs along the ceiling to the back wall

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Speaker 1: and then runs down the back wall instead of dripping

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Speaker 1: in the shower. And it is a weird thought. You

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Speaker 1: would think, well, you know, it's all hot water. It's not.

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Speaker 1: The temperature coming out of the shower head is one temperature.

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Speaker 1: By the time the moisture condensates on the cooler tile

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Speaker 1: up above or slab up above, when it starts to

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Speaker 1: drop on you, it's kind of annoyingly cooler than the

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Speaker 1: hot shower that you're taking. And so slope that ceiling

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Speaker 1: back and change the you know, get that water so

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Speaker 1: it doesn't drip on you. Jack, thank you for your question.

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