WEBVTT - 11-3-25 Monday Night Sterling

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<v Speaker 1>Here we are. It's a fine Monday night, Sterling stepping

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<v Speaker 1>in after a UC basketball bear Cat win ninety four

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<v Speaker 1>sixty three over the Catamounts of Western Carolina. West Miller's

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<v Speaker 1>a bear Casts with a win to start the regular season.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifth third arena in here on seven hundred wl W

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<v Speaker 1>Gary Jeff Walker, who's normally here at this time, going

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<v Speaker 1>to join us later. He got the night off, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's I want to talk about raised relationship issues if

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<v Speaker 1>you've got time. So it's like, sure, we'll do that

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<v Speaker 1>after eleven o'clock. We can fit you in. Of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Also a good news for NKU fans. The Norse nearly

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<v Speaker 1>doubled up. This is insane. I think it's the most

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<v Speaker 1>they've ever scored in a game of hoops. One twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six sixty nine winners over UC Claremont, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>the truest arena. So the Cougars of Claremont U see

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<v Speaker 1>going back there and not feeling good about their trip

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<v Speaker 1>to Northern Kentucky. The marist Red Foxes were at Sintas

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<v Speaker 1>taking on the Musketeers, Xavier handling them sixty six sixty

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<v Speaker 1>two at Sintas. That's a win for the Bearcats, a

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<v Speaker 1>win for the Musketeers, a win for the Norse and

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<v Speaker 1>the Dayton Flyers all over Canisius's Golden Griffins you deer

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<v Speaker 1>in earlier eighty eight forty eight, So those are all good,

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<v Speaker 1>and then of course yesterday there was the devastating, heartbreaking

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying not to be as emotionally engaged as it's

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<v Speaker 1>just debilitating Otherwise, the Bengals with a tough loss, and

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<v Speaker 1>a really tough loss for a lot of us who

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<v Speaker 1>grew up listening to seven hundred WLW who were Bengals fans.

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Trumpy some would call him the godfather of sports

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<v Speaker 1>talk radio. Announcement that he passed away over the weekend

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<v Speaker 1>and apparently surrounded by family. We will talk to Lance

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<v Speaker 1>McCallister just after ten o'clock about Bob, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>George Vogel, former sports director at Channel five WLWT, going

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<v Speaker 1>to join us about ten thirty five to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Trumpy, huge shoes and voice behind the microphone, just

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<v Speaker 1>a good guy. I'll let these guys tell the story

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<v Speaker 1>because they knew him, they worked around him, aside from

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<v Speaker 1>me just growing up listening and then once I came

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<v Speaker 1>into this building, or at least the building in Mount

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<v Speaker 1>Adams when we were there years ago. He had already

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<v Speaker 1>moved on to be doing NFL stuff full time on

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<v Speaker 1>TV and radio, but occasionally would pop in the building.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, it's one of these things that you

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<v Speaker 1>grew up listening to this radio station, you end up

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<v Speaker 1>working in the building or working on the air here

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<v Speaker 1>at the Big One, and I was doing FM stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even sure. I had probably started to do

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff here fill ins and otherwise on seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>WLW at that point, So Trumpy would be in the

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<v Speaker 1>building on occasion, the way so many other people you see,

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<v Speaker 1>like Johnny Bench, you know, you see anybody and everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Rose randomly, you know, James Brown randomly. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a crazy thing, especially growing up as a fan.

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<v Speaker 1>Right In a couple of handful of times that we

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<v Speaker 1>actually conversed, he was always very polite. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he really knew who I was, because I was literally

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<v Speaker 1>like a fly on the wall and the long haired

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<v Speaker 1>FM music guy from upstairs at the time who would

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like be bouncing around the building and sort

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<v Speaker 1>of bumped into him and others. But he was always

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<v Speaker 1>very polite, very friendly, and obviously fantastic to listen to.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know Lance will have a lot to say

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<v Speaker 1>about him, as will George Vogel. And my heart goes

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<v Speaker 1>out to his Family's had just a brilliant life, a

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<v Speaker 1>career and seemed to just be really everything you'd want

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<v Speaker 1>to be as an individual and a family man and

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<v Speaker 1>so forth. A little bit that I actually knew of him,

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<v Speaker 1>So that'll be good coming up in just a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit tomorrow's election day. Also, if you hadn't heard, they're

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<v Speaker 1>expecting a whopping twenty five. In fact, maybe if they

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<v Speaker 1>reached thirty percent of those eligible voters to actually go

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<v Speaker 1>to the polling place is tomorrow, or to have already

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<v Speaker 1>cast their ballot in early voting, if not mailing it

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<v Speaker 1>in thirty percent would be like a massive turnout for

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<v Speaker 1>this sort of in between election, even though it is

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of council seats in Cincinnati and a

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<v Speaker 1>mayor's race as well, and a lot of stuff sort

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<v Speaker 1>of on the ballot or randomly around the tri state,

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<v Speaker 1>around the country for that matter, too. So we will

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<v Speaker 1>talk on that just a little bit, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious and I don't know, I'm just wondering because

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<v Speaker 1>you talk to people and you listen to talk shows maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know on social media and so much is political,

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<v Speaker 1>so much is all about it, all that, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know how important the elections are, and you know the

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<v Speaker 1>need for a better policing in Cincinnati, for instance, and

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<v Speaker 1>what's gone on with the police chief and her on

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<v Speaker 1>the sideline and then somebody else being brought you know, in,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least bumped up in the organization to sort

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<v Speaker 1>of handle things while the so called independent investigation is

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<v Speaker 1>taking place, and the question of policing and the judiciary

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<v Speaker 1>and how judges are handling things in the plan as

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<v Speaker 1>far as you know, being tougher on crime or otherwise.

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<v Speaker 1>So all of this is sort of you know, bubbling

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<v Speaker 1>up is a part of what one would think would

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<v Speaker 1>be something fairly serious to get people out to vote.

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<v Speaker 1>We're can open up the phones, give you a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to sound off five point three seven four nine, seven thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred, the big one, you can talk back the

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<v Speaker 1>iHeartRadio app. I'm just curious because of how important it

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<v Speaker 1>is and statistically and historically speaking along those lines, this

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<v Speaker 1>election one would think would be important. It is certainly

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<v Speaker 1>talked about as important to you know, the talk of

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<v Speaker 1>crime and businesses in downtown Cincinnati and across the region

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<v Speaker 1>just in general, so many things of concern that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>there would be more people coming out of the roadwork

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<v Speaker 1>to have their voices heard. But it seems to me

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<v Speaker 1>that twenty five percent is probably about what they're expect.

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<v Speaker 1>If they were to get an extra five percent to

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<v Speaker 1>thirty percent of those that are eligible to vote to

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<v Speaker 1>actually show up and let their voice be heard, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be shocking to those who count the votes and

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<v Speaker 1>those who study these things. I'm wondering, how engaged and

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<v Speaker 1>concerned are you. I mean, there are some things as

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<v Speaker 1>far as renewals of taxes, there's you know, some judge

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<v Speaker 1>ship situations that all these type of things are out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and my guest, as much as there's been talk about it,

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<v Speaker 1>it is still shocking and somewhat bewildering to me that

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<v Speaker 1>so few people actually get out to vote and fairly

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<v Speaker 1>important situation. So I'm just wondering, are you voting, Have

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<v Speaker 1>you voted? How serious are you about it? How much

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<v Speaker 1>do you care? I think there are some disenfranchised I've

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<v Speaker 1>talked to people of a variety of age groups in

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<v Speaker 1>the last week or so in and about the tri

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<v Speaker 1>State up in the Miami Valley as well, and I

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<v Speaker 1>talk to people, and people seem to be very soured

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<v Speaker 1>and irritated and aggravated and dissatisfied in general with both

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<v Speaker 1>parties and a lot of the individuals that are out

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<v Speaker 1>there looking to try to either get rehired or to

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<v Speaker 1>find themselves into new positions apparently to represent we the people,

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<v Speaker 1>and to do the people's work, to make it safer,

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<v Speaker 1>in a better environment for business, and all the other

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<v Speaker 1>things that you would hope the government actually is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to do or should be doing with

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<v Speaker 1>your tax dollars and my tax dollars and Joe Waddell's

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<v Speaker 1>tax dollars, who's producing, et cetera. To sort of go

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<v Speaker 1>along with that, I mean, that's what one would think,

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<v Speaker 1>But it does appear that perhaps as much people talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it, that not a lot of people are. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a dissatisfaction, and I think a disgruntled nature

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<v Speaker 1>of a lot of talk and a lot of not

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<v Speaker 1>being done that goes along with it. So we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>exactly how how far it goes and what happens if

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<v Speaker 1>there's a change in Cincinnati, if there's a change elsewhere around.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that there were new lines drawn. As far

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<v Speaker 1>as some call it jerrymandering, some people just call it redistricting.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that it still does not fall in line

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<v Speaker 1>with what the edict was from the Supreme Court, but

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<v Speaker 1>apparently nobody pays attention to that. So going into twenty six,

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<v Speaker 1>that's something that we will all have to live with

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<v Speaker 1>and navigate one way or the other, whether it's fair

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<v Speaker 1>representation or otherwise. We'll see exactly how it goes. This

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<v Speaker 1>has been something that has been talked about for years

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<v Speaker 1>and they've never gone beyond that. So we'll see exactly

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<v Speaker 1>I guess what growth what goes along with that overall.

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<v Speaker 1>So before we take the first break, five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred, the Big One, talk back the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just wondering, are you going to vote? Have you voted?

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<v Speaker 1>How concerned are you about it? One way or the other.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether you're in Cincinnati or Dayton or Covington, Newport, doesn't matter,

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<v Speaker 1>Hyde Park, you name it. It's an interesting thing where

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much attention and you read the headlines. I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard more in some fashion about a mayor's race in

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<v Speaker 1>New York than I have about the mayor's race in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>And to be honest with you, what happens in Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>I think is going to affect people in the Tri

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<v Speaker 1>State more than what happens in New York. But that

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<v Speaker 1>obviously is what is a sexy headline and all the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that goes along with it. So we'll see exactly

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<v Speaker 1>how that plays out overall. I mean, it's a serious thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And for those who don't know, and this is a

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<v Speaker 1>fairly common thing. And I had this conversation with a

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<v Speaker 1>neighbor of mine. They were like, they weren't sure if

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<v Speaker 1>they were going to be able to vote. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know if they had what they needed because they were

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<v Speaker 1>afraid of being tighter when it comes to getting a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to show up at the polls and do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can use your driver's license, You can use the

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<v Speaker 1>State of Ohio ID. You can use an inuum I

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<v Speaker 1>D if you have an interum ID from the Bureau

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<v Speaker 1>of Motor Vehicles in Ohio. Anyway, if you have a passport,

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<v Speaker 1>a passport of work, if you have a passport card

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<v Speaker 1>or a US Military card, National Guard card for the

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<v Speaker 1>for Ohio or a Veteran's Affairs ID card from the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Veteran Affairs. All photo IDs have to have

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<v Speaker 1>an expiration date that is not expired. In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>it has to be current. You have to have a

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<v Speaker 1>photograph on that ID of the person doing the voting,

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<v Speaker 1>so they know what you and not somebody else trying

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<v Speaker 1>to hoist your voice. And the voter's name has to

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<v Speaker 1>be apparently close as it possibly can be too entirely

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<v Speaker 1>accurate looking at the voter role compared to what is

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<v Speaker 1>on your ID, in other words, what's in the voting book.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're like me, they look at my signature

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<v Speaker 1>and goes, we don't even believe that you have hands.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like just a thumb print basically, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>how they identify me generally speaking. So that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>my neighbor was very concerned, like what about my cableville,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you can use the cable bill and

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<v Speaker 1>ongoing and the conversation and the argument that has been

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<v Speaker 1>had over and over again is you know, oh, we

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<v Speaker 1>need a better security around our polls and knowing that

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<v Speaker 1>we know who's voting. Well, that's how that works, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's too much to ask to have

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<v Speaker 1>somebody have an ID with their picture on it or otherwise.

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<v Speaker 1>And hopefully there's been also a lot of talk, but

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<v Speaker 1>I've really seen nothing more about it. I see all

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff, this sort of pops into social media, pops

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<v Speaker 1>in unsolicited to my email accounts, talking about be careful

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<v Speaker 1>with the polls and danger at the polls. I have never,

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<v Speaker 1>not once ever, other than the people out in front

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<v Speaker 1>that have their little placards that are trying to tell

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<v Speaker 1>me to vote one way or another way, or for

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<v Speaker 1>a candidate within the certain minimal amount of feet distance,

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<v Speaker 1>they're supposed to release you so you can freely walk

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<v Speaker 1>into that elementary school or wherever it is that you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to vote without them being annoying and up on you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't when I'm in Vegas, and I

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<v Speaker 1>used to live there for a little while, and I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't spend a whole lot of time on the strip,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have friends visit, and you'd walk along the strip,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have all those people out in front with

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<v Speaker 1>their little hooker like or a companion. Let's just call

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<v Speaker 1>it escort trading cards, you know, they've flip the card

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<v Speaker 1>at you or whatever. I don't need that type of

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<v Speaker 1>interaction when I'm trying to walk to go get a

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<v Speaker 1>drink or buy of food. I certainly don't need anybody

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<v Speaker 1>up in my grill and in my face trying to

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<v Speaker 1>intimidate or convince me that I need to vote one

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<v Speaker 1>way or the other as I'm walking into a polling place.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never understood that. But I do have one request

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the ideas that you know, vote, let your voice

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<v Speaker 1>be heard. However you're going to vote, you should do it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have an idea that's the thing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't know what you're doing by the time

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<v Speaker 1>you get there, I think there's a problem. And whether

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<v Speaker 1>you go to the Hamilton County Board of Elections website,

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<v Speaker 1>or Montgomery County or Boone County, or you know, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is, wherever you happen to be, you can usually

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<v Speaker 1>get a sample ballot so you can see exactly what's

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<v Speaker 1>on the ballots, so you know exactly what you're voting for.

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<v Speaker 1>You could fill it out beforehand on paper in front

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<v Speaker 1>of you so you can go in and make it

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<v Speaker 1>an EASYPAS process. And my guess is with twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>to thirty percent maximum hitting the polls in total tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>not voting tomorrow, but voting for the entire election. Probably

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be a whole lot of big, serious

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<v Speaker 1>problems with lines or anything else along that, So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see exactly how it plays out. Your chance to get

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<v Speaker 1>interactive straight away. Lancedo mccalis are going to join us

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<v Speaker 1>after ten o'clock. We'll talk the legendary Bob Trumpy, who

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<v Speaker 1>we lost over the weekend, plus George Vocal Vocal, a

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<v Speaker 1>former a sports director Channel five WLWT, and my man

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<v Speaker 1>Gary Jeff Walker wants to talk relationships, so we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>what type of dysfunction he wants to share with all

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<v Speaker 1>of us. Coming up, It's a Monday night, Sterling on

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WLW. What's going on, Sterling hanging out? A

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<v Speaker 1>good night for basketball Bearcats as well as Musketeers and

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<v Speaker 1>the Dayton Flyers and the Nkau norse A Bearcats ninety

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<v Speaker 1>four sixty three of Western Carolina. The Catamounts going home

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<v Speaker 1>after a bad night for them at fifth Third Arena.

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<v Speaker 1>You heard Dan Hort Mowager with the call ninety four

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<v Speaker 1>to sixty three bear Cats handled business West Miller's guys

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<v Speaker 1>look on to the next one. Maris red Fox's visited

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<v Speaker 1>Centas Center the campus Xavier University Musketeers sixty six sixty

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<v Speaker 1>two winners. There. You see, Claremont took a trip to

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<v Speaker 1>Northern Kentucky Truist Arena and the NKA Norse schooled them.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a whole new level of education for those

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<v Speaker 1>Cougar So you see Claremont one six to sixty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>the Norse all over them, and the Golden Griffins of

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<v Speaker 1>Kenisias made a trip to downtown Dayton ud Arena and

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<v Speaker 1>the Flyers handled them easily eighty eight forty eight. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's some scores in and around the region when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to some college hoops getting underway, and there'll be

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<v Speaker 1>more of that obviously in the season ahead. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty exciting tough one yesterday for the Bengals. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know defense problems, I guess, I mean, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how much more offense do you need?

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<v Speaker 1>But it was tough, that's all I know. Speaking of Bengals,

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<v Speaker 1>we lost one of the original football Bengals and Bob

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<v Speaker 1>Trumpy over the weekend, eighty years old we'll talk to

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<v Speaker 1>Lance mccowister and George Vogel about Bob Trumpy, about those Bengals,

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<v Speaker 1>about what he has meant to the tri State and

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<v Speaker 1>sports talk across the country and certainly ended up calling

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of games in the NFL. He was like

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<v Speaker 1>their a team for NBC when they were carrying AFC

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<v Speaker 1>games and so forth as well. So just a big loss,

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<v Speaker 1>just a legend on this radio station, in history, just

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<v Speaker 1>in general as a Bengal, pretty pretty spectacular. Maris not

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<v Speaker 1>to be confused with those Maris players who leave Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>after losing to Xavier. But Maris and Fairborne said, how

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<v Speaker 1>dare I, especially the fact that she knows I went

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<v Speaker 1>to Wright State not mentioning the Raiders handling business. They

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<v Speaker 1>beat Franklin Franklin eighty six thirty seven, the Right State

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<v Speaker 1>Raiders at the Nutter Center eighty six thirty seven over

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<v Speaker 1>Franklin's Grizzlies. So the Raiders with their first win under

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<v Speaker 1>their belt for the twenty twenty five twenty sixth season

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<v Speaker 1>as they and they'll spend a little time in northern Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll face the Norse there, and of course up seventy

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<v Speaker 1>one and seventy five in the Dayton area later on

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<v Speaker 1>as they do their home and away thing for the

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<v Speaker 1>Horizon League. So right State one, you see when Xavier wins,

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<v Speaker 1>NKU wins, Dayton Flyers win, that's a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 1>w's in the region. So there you go. There's that

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<v Speaker 1>to look forward to as well. And Gary Jeff Walker's

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<v Speaker 1>coming up a bit later. I had something happened to

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<v Speaker 1>me on the way in here. I was running some

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<v Speaker 1>errands in two different occasions, not at a crosswalk. In

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<v Speaker 1>the news as of the last week or so before

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<v Speaker 1>the time change, and then after the time change, I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen this, and the time change, of course, just happened,

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<v Speaker 1>you hear. I don't know. I'm trying to think at

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<v Speaker 1>least six different stories I've come across in the last

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<v Speaker 1>week to ten days of people who have been hit

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<v Speaker 1>by cars. The vast majority apparently have been in crosswalks,

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<v Speaker 1>some have not. And one of the things every year

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<v Speaker 1>that you have to concern yourself with is it gets

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<v Speaker 1>dark earlier. It's often dark in the morning, kids going

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<v Speaker 1>too from school and so forth, and it's a real

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<v Speaker 1>basic thing. When you're driving and you're behind the wheel,

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<v Speaker 1>you keep an eye out for any danger, let alone

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<v Speaker 1>pedestrian and certainly in a crosswalk. And we've seen a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these stories about hit and runs as well,

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<v Speaker 1>which is bewildering. You know, is there somebody's affected, been

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<v Speaker 1>distracted or indifferent, I guess is what it boils down to.

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<v Speaker 1>But the other thing on the way in two different

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<v Speaker 1>people in areas on the road where on Montgomery Road

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<v Speaker 1>in an other spot it was in between lit roadway areas,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was a little bit darker, and not in

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<v Speaker 1>crosswalks where people in dark clothes were choosing to walk

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<v Speaker 1>across four or five lanes of traffic technically with two

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<v Speaker 1>and two and then a turn lane in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>in front of moving vehicles, which is unsettling to the

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<v Speaker 1>driver of a car unnerving is all hell and dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how you end up being a statistic or a

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<v Speaker 1>news story. And if I've learned nothing else, it's better

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<v Speaker 1>to talk and make fun of the news than it

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<v Speaker 1>is to be the news. Go to a crosswalk and

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<v Speaker 1>just pay attention to where you're going, you know, between

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<v Speaker 1>distracted in drunken and just you know, affected drivers and

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<v Speaker 1>then people not paying attention distracted while walking and not

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about how vulnerable they are from the vehicles that

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<v Speaker 1>are at least a ton to two tons sometimes more

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<v Speaker 1>moving at thirty forty fifty sixty miles an hour. You

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<v Speaker 1>might go to a crosswalk, you might want to look

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<v Speaker 1>both ways. I'm just saying it's ridiculous, and we're all

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<v Speaker 1>in this together. So you don't want to hit anybody,

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<v Speaker 1>I would hope, and you don't want to be hit.

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<v Speaker 1>Act accordingly your ten o'clock report straight away. More Sterling

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<v Speaker 1>coming back, Gary Jeff Walker joins me after eleven, George

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<v Speaker 1>Vogel at ten thirty five, and our man Lance McCallister,

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<v Speaker 1>host of Sports Talk, talks about effectively the original, the

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<v Speaker 1>godfather of sports talk and a former Bengal in his passing,

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Trumpy coming up with Sterling seven hundred WLW Cincinnati. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>how you doing. It's a Monday night. Sterling A good

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<v Speaker 1>one in if you're of basketball. Bear Can Fan ninety

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<v Speaker 1>eighty four sixty three over Western Carolina to start off

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<v Speaker 1>at twenty twenty five, twenty six campaign bear Cats over

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<v Speaker 1>to Canamounts, Xavier beat the Red Foxes of Maris at

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<v Speaker 1>Sentas Nku Norse all over U C Claremont one twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six sixty nine and Canisius as Golden Griffins went into

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<v Speaker 1>ud Arena downtown Dayton and the flyer sent them home

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<v Speaker 1>not so happy. The Griffins lose eighty eight forty eight

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<v Speaker 1>and to the right state Raiders handled business also at

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<v Speaker 1>the Nutter Center took care of business over Franklin's Grizzlies

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<v Speaker 1>eighty six thirty seven. A whole lot of winning. A

0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:12.520
<v Speaker 1>guy who knows from winning, and our sports talk host

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<v Speaker 1>here at seven hundred wl W, Lance McAllister, kind enough

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<v Speaker 1>to give us some time. The man who led the

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<v Speaker 1>way for Lance and to Andy Furman and Paul Doherty,

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<v Speaker 1>I think was here for about eight and a half minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been others who have done it, but Lance

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<v Speaker 1>is the man right now, one of those on the

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<v Speaker 1>mount Rushmore broadcasters, and we lost. I won't even use

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<v Speaker 1>the term loosely say friend. In passing, I got to

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<v Speaker 1>say hello and meet Bob Trumpy, but grew up listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the guy and certainly the legend of him as

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<v Speaker 1>being an original Bengal. Lance McAllister, I appreciate you making

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<v Speaker 1>time on a busy Monday at seven hundred WLW how

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<v Speaker 1>are you and what was your relationship like with Bob Trumpy,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm sure that you have crossed paths over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Sterling, good to join you. It traces back to you.

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<v Speaker 2>As a twelve year old, I was calling Bob Trumpy

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<v Speaker 2>and sports talk as a kid. I'd call him once

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<v Speaker 2>a week and we'd go round and round on things.

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<v Speaker 2>I will never forget two phone calls to Bob Trumpey

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<v Speaker 2>when I was growing up. One I got into an

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<v Speaker 2>argument with him about Buddy Bell versus Wayne cren Chikey.

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<v Speaker 2>The Reds had traded for Buddy Bell and gave him

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<v Speaker 2>the third base job over Wayne crane Chickey and Wayne

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<v Speaker 2>Crenchickey was having a career year and Buddy Bell struggled

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<v Speaker 2>in his first couple of months with the Reds. And

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<v Speaker 2>I called Trumpy one night and I guess I'm probably

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen fourteen years old at this time and going round

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<v Speaker 2>and around and why are they playing Buddy Bell? It

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<v Speaker 2>should be Wayne cren Hicky's job. He should have never

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<v Speaker 2>lost it. We went round and round and around and

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<v Speaker 2>he eventually hung up on me.

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<v Speaker 1>Was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a time we were on family vacation in

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<v Speaker 2>Cape Cod and I called him from Cape Cod and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll never forget asking why are you calling me from

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<v Speaker 2>Cape Cod? And I was like, I'm on vacation. I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to talk Reds tonight. So that goes back, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm twelve at that time, that goes back some

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<v Speaker 2>forty I mean, think about that, forty seven years.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's amazing. And I don't know for you, it

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<v Speaker 1>had to be the same way, because I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>never had the stones to call him, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>listen in the same way, listening to you and listen

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<v Speaker 1>to Firm and et cetera, all the others. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>an odd thing when you walk into the building and

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<v Speaker 1>these are giants that you know, you grow up listening

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<v Speaker 1>to in their opinions. You got to sort of shake

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<v Speaker 1>the tree and engage him. But when you cross that line,

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<v Speaker 1>you also become the same. You're doing the same work.

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<v Speaker 1>You may not have played as a Bengal, you may

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<v Speaker 1>not have gone on to do TV for NBC in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL, but you're also also doing sports talk. What

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<v Speaker 1>is that like in your relationship with him and understanding

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<v Speaker 1>where he was coming from and what he was doing

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<v Speaker 1>to what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, and Sterling to advance the story from

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<v Speaker 2>the fourteen year old twelve thirteen. Fourteen year old is

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<v Speaker 2>calling him later on. I did the Friday Bengals pep

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<v Speaker 2>Rally show with him on ESPN fifteen thirty. I did

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<v Speaker 2>the Roundtable Show for a year with Bob Trumpy, the

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<v Speaker 2>one I now do with Rocky. I did that with

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<v Speaker 2>Trumpy for a year on Thursday Night. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about that adjustment period of I mean, to me,

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<v Speaker 2>I have no qualm saying I idolized Bob Trumpy. I mean,

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:34.760
<v Speaker 2>he was the godfather of sports talk. He's the reason

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<v Speaker 2>sports talk was created in this town. And I've never

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<v Speaker 2>heard somebody I don't think I ever will who had

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<v Speaker 2>such a commanding presence on the radio, the voice and

0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:50.600
<v Speaker 2>just the gravitas of he just commanded you listen. When

0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:54.200
<v Speaker 2>you tuned it in and you heard it, it was captivating,

0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:57.080
<v Speaker 2>you wanted to keep listening, whether you agreed or disagreed.

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<v Speaker 1>He just made you listen.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was joking today with Dave Lapham, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>been asked so many stories about Trumpey, and I said,

0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:08.720
<v Speaker 2>the beauty of Trump he was there was his opinion,

0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:11.879
<v Speaker 2>and then there was your opinion, which was wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, It's just the way it was.

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<v Speaker 3>He was always right.

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<v Speaker 2>He held firm to his beliefs and his convictions, and

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<v Speaker 2>there was no changing his mind. And he just dug

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<v Speaker 2>in and he was stubborn, and we went round and

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<v Speaker 2>round at times. We wanted to strangle each other at times.

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<v Speaker 2>But man, looking back on those shows, I mean sitting

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<v Speaker 2>at a then a Buffalo Wild Wings on a Friday

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<v Speaker 2>afternoon doing a three hour Bengals pep rally with Bob Trumpy,

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:44.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, who would have thought, I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 2>actually happening. I'm doing shows with the godfather of sports dog.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a pretty amazing thing. Talking to Lance McCallister, if

0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:53.720
<v Speaker 1>he hadn't already figured it out, to the sports talk

0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:56.919
<v Speaker 1>host talking about the late great Bob Trump, He's godfather

0:24:57.160 --> 0:24:59.560
<v Speaker 1>of sports talk of a word of his passing over

0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:04.719
<v Speaker 1>the weekend, His career was amazing. I was too little

0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:07.680
<v Speaker 1>and not even here when the Bengals started, and then

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:09.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, he spent a dec day as a Bengal

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:12.720
<v Speaker 1>and then he did sports talk and then he went

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:15.359
<v Speaker 1>on in the midst of all that ended up doing

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:19.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, football games for NBC called multiple Super Bowls,

0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:23.000
<v Speaker 1>did Olympic games as well as golf like Ryder Cup stuff,

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:26.080
<v Speaker 1>and you do have done a variety of things. But

0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:29.159
<v Speaker 1>what an amazing story of him coming out of Utah

0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:32.359
<v Speaker 1>as a ute to Cincinnati as a Bengal to walk

0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:36.880
<v Speaker 1>through the halls of seven hundred WLW and then advance

0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 1>to that other level as well to do so many

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:42.680
<v Speaker 1>other things. That's a spectacular credit to him, his capabilities

0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:47.760
<v Speaker 1>in the ability just to convey a story and paint

0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:49.639
<v Speaker 1>a picture because he did it on radio and TV.

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the the versatility, I mean, the number of different

0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:59.680
<v Speaker 2>sports he did for NBC. He wasn't just your stereotypical

0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:01.960
<v Speaker 2>job who was just going to do a football game.

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:05.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean they gave him plumb assignments as you mentioned,

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 2>the Olympics and Ryder Cup and other things.

0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:10.159
<v Speaker 3>And it's what you know.

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:13.359
<v Speaker 2>I always marveled and in that era of Bob Trumpy

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 2>on NBC, it was Bob Costas in the studio and

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I always looked at those two from their versatility and said,

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 2>I want to do what they do? How do they

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:26.440
<v Speaker 2>do so many different things? Well, yes, they weren't one

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:29.560
<v Speaker 2>trick ponies. It was the ability to do so many

0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:32.679
<v Speaker 2>different things that I always marveled about, and and Sterling,

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:34.879
<v Speaker 2>I was always amazed by the fact. And I'll have

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:36.920
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of this out of order or maybe

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:38.880
<v Speaker 2>out of place, but you know, he told me when

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 2>he first he first heard Bill Russell doing sports talk

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:45.800
<v Speaker 2>radio out in San Francisco, the former Celtic legend was

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 2>doing a sports talk radio show, and Trump he heard

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 2>him and thought, well, I could do that. What if

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 2>I did it here? And when he first presented it,

0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:55.879
<v Speaker 2>it was rejected here like, now we're we're not going

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 2>to do a sports talk show every night. And Trump

0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:00.920
<v Speaker 2>went out and then sold it and found people who

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 2>would buy time on it. It initially started on what was

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:08.840
<v Speaker 2>w wcky, still w cky, and then on to seven

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 2>hundred WLW. But it was he was like the pioneer

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:14.040
<v Speaker 2>from that standpoint. All Right, you don't think it could

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 2>be done, I'll show you it can be done. And

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:17.639
<v Speaker 2>it's been done ever since.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a pretty amazing thing. When you would talk to

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:22.199
<v Speaker 1>him off the air. I'm kind of curious because I

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 1>would only pass in the hallway when we were in

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:27.479
<v Speaker 1>Mount Adams and you know at that point, I'm you know,

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 1>an FM music I I've got my long hair. I

0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:32.159
<v Speaker 1>maybe had done a talk show here at that point,

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe not even yet initially. And he was always very polite,

0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 1>very friendly, but he was always headed to the studio

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:39.399
<v Speaker 1>or in and out to do something client related, whatever,

0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 1>just popping in and people would gravitate towards him. And

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:44.919
<v Speaker 1>I was always, I want to say intimidated, but probably

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 1>a little intimidated, and I didn't want to be annoying,

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 1>but interacting with him and socializing with him and becoming

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:53.879
<v Speaker 1>someone who's working directly with him. What was that like?

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:56.679
<v Speaker 1>You touched on it a little bit, but it's an

0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>amazing thing to see someone who's that comfortable, that confident,

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:03.359
<v Speaker 1>that sperience to sort of do it just so well.

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 2>And he would he would constantly ride me as someone

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:13.679
<v Speaker 2>who and this was part of his bit of someone

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:17.360
<v Speaker 2>who never played the game. And we would get into

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:21.639
<v Speaker 2>conversations topics for the show or off air, and it

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.680
<v Speaker 2>would always come back to whatever. When I really push

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 2>his buttons to the point where he just lose all patients,

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 2>he just look at me and I keep describing this story.

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:35.679
<v Speaker 2>He would peer over those glasses on his nose and

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 2>through the smoke of his chain smoking, because boy did

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 2>he smoke back then.

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 1>And he would look at him.

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 2>And just say, with that deep voice, you have clearly

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 2>never played the game. It would just I get the

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 2>biggest kick out of that because that was his go

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 2>to line. And you know, I would always try to

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 2>punch his button by saying something like especially on a

0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 2>daylight today, where I would I would be on with him.

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 2>I would say, you know, the Bengals need to make

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 2>a statement. They need to move on from saying they

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:06.720
<v Speaker 2>need to fire somebody, they need to make a trade,

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 2>they need to make a statement. And trump you with

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:13.240
<v Speaker 2>that big booming voice just laugh and say statements. You

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 2>and your statements. You always want to make statements. And

0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:19.240
<v Speaker 2>that just got him so worked up. But I love

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:22.960
<v Speaker 2>doing that. That's tremendous, it really is.

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Lance. I appreciate you making time, and I know that

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 1>you're up early, you do stuff all day. You got

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Bengal stuff on a Monday and everything. So I appreciate

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 1>you sharing that. And it's got to be hard when

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 1>you come across. I mean, I've lost people close, some

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:39.719
<v Speaker 1>that I've worked with and so forth, and it's happening

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 1>more regularly for those people that were a generation maybe

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 1>ahead of us, or maybe a little more than that.

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>So it's sometimes difficult to talk about them. So I

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you, you being willing to do it. You didn't

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 1>have to do it. Anything else that I have not

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 1>asked that you think is relevant talking Bob Trumpy or

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 1>even for instance, about these Bengals and what you think

0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:00.960
<v Speaker 1>that conversation with him would be like with the Bengal today.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I would the thing I think is important to

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 2>And I've told this story a lot, and I will

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 2>always tell this story because I think it defines our

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 2>relationship with it that I had with Trumpy, and he

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 2>could be rough and gruff and that big, deep voice

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 2>and all that, and yet I will always maintain the

0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 2>defining moment of our relationship came about twenty two years

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 2>ago when our son Casey was diagnosed with leukemia and

0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 2>Bob Trumpy was the first person that called me and

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 2>he offered me whatever we needed. He said, however, I

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 2>can help and said if you need a bone marrow

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 2>donor I want to be your guy, and I will.

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:50.800
<v Speaker 2>I I get chills when I tell that story every

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 2>time because and eventually we had a donor through the

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 2>National Bone Marrow Donor Program. But for all of our

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 2>battles and a relationship ship that went back to when

0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 2>I was, you know, twelve, thirteen fourteen, calling him to

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 2>an adult and a father and somebody who done shows

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 2>with him, that was that will always be Bob Trumpy

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 2>to me. He's one of a kind because of what

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 2>he did as a pioneer in the industry. But he's

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 2>one of a kind to me because he was the

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 2>first person that called us and was willing to offer

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 2>all of that to help our family and help our son.

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 1>A great human being is what it boils down to. Yeah,

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 1>and that's the most important thing there is. So yeah,

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty tremendous. I feel that too, Lance, Thank you.

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it, and I hope all is well with

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 1>the family. Mcouister. I know it's late, and I just figured,

0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 1>of all the people I figure to reach out to you,

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I got George Vogel coming up because I know he

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 1>had sort of crossed paths with him over the years

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 1>as well. So I appreciate you making time.

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Happy to do it. He was, he was one of

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 2>a kind. There will never be anybody ever again like

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 2>Bob Trumpy, No way, no how.

0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Most definitely the godfather Sports Talk here at seven hundred

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>wl W the late great Bob Trumpy, Lance McCallister, thank you,

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 1>and you're no slouch yourself, by the way, Thank you, Sterling. Yes, sir,

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll talk to you soon. He'll be on tomorrow night

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 1>after Eddie and Roncky as always, quick break, we'll come back.

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 1>You got something to say about Bob Trumpy, We'll talk

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 1>to you. We got George Vogel also coming, former a

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 1>WLWT Channel five sports director and a Greater Cincinnati Journalism

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame member. I'm not in any hall of

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 1>fames Vogel is McAllister will be, and Trumpy has been.

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where I'm gonna go.

0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 4>Oh.

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Also Gary Jeff Walker a bit later too. He's normally

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 1>on at this time. I don't know why he took

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:34.479
<v Speaker 1>the night off, and then he likes texting me earlier.

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:36.719
<v Speaker 1>He's like, if you got something i'd love to be on,

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to be on. So I don't know if

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 1>he's having like I took the night off for remorse

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 1>or what, but he wants to talk some relationship issues,

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 1>he says, So that's coming up after eleven o'clock A

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 1>good way to go between now and midnight when we

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 1>start to rolling atn so hang out at Sterling on

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WLW Glad you're a long fine Monday Night,

0:32:57.280 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WLW Sterling hanging out nine first one forecast

0:33:00.560 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>on the Big one thirty four tonight, middle sixties for

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 1>election day tomorrow. Go vote if you haven't already close

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 1>to seventy on Wednesday, then sixty again on Thursday. It's

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 1>a bomby forty seven. Now your severe weather station seven

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>hundred WLW Gary. Jeff Walker is gonna join me. He's

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:19.480
<v Speaker 1>normally here now, but he's unavailable, but it says he's

0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 1>still awake in what's to talk relationships. I don't know

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 1>if that's his relationship with me, if that means at home,

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. If he's very concerned about people so

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 1>well being. Apparently coming up after eleven o'clock, we'll get

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 1>into his head about that. Monday night football going on

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 1>right now, and it's the Cardinals twenty seven Cowboys ten

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:40.320
<v Speaker 1>in Arlington, not Dallas. They play in Arlington. Swayan Coff

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 1>and what else. Oh, holy crap. You see Bearcats open

0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 1>up their twenty five twenty six season. You heard it

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 1>here earlier, fifth third Arena, Mowagger Dan Horde with the

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:57.880
<v Speaker 1>call Bearcats ninety four Western Carolina's Canamount sixty three Xavier one.

0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 1>They beat Maris sixty six sixty two with centas a blowout.

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 1>The Norse easily handled U C. Claremont. They're cougar is

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:09.240
<v Speaker 1>the truest arena one twenty six sixty nine. That's massive.

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Eighty eight forty eight Dayton Flyers got by Canisius's Griffins

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:16.720
<v Speaker 1>at U D Arena and Wright State Raiders eighty six

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 1>over Franklin's Grizzlies eighty six thirty six at the Nutter Center.

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 1>That had to make a horrible drive home for Franklin's Grizzlies,

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 1>is my guess from Fairborn. All right. On the other side,

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 1>we've already talked to Lance McAllister kind enough to give

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 1>us some time after your ten thirty report. Lee Mawin

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:40.400
<v Speaker 1>has the news. We'll talk to George Vogel, former sports

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:44.759
<v Speaker 1>director WLWT Channel five. He's a greater Cincinnati Journalism Hall

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>of Famer. You went in with the likes of Ken

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Brew and John Fay, Danny Jansen, Wayne Box, Miller, Popovich Popo.

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I like to call him aout John Popovic and who else,

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:58.879
<v Speaker 1>Betsy Ross and some others. I think I let somebody

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 1>out Kevin Barnett as well, old KRC executive sports producer.

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 1>We'll talk to George Vogel about the late great Bob Trumpy,

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:10.960
<v Speaker 1>godfather of sports talk radio. Lance joined us earlier with

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 1>his take he worked with him, he grew up listening

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:16.760
<v Speaker 1>to him like I did. I still have said this before,

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 1>and just you come into this building if you're somebody

0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 1>who is in and around the Tri State are now

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:26.840
<v Speaker 1>with the iHeartRadio app from basically anywhere, and you listen

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 1>to so many people and you hear them, and you

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 1>know you live with them everywhere you go there there

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:34.360
<v Speaker 1>I am too, I guess now at this point. But

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 1>and then you run into them as I did with Trumpy,

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 1>as I have so many others, and just sort of

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:42.279
<v Speaker 1>in awe of and then knowing his history as an

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 1>original Cincinnati football Bengal and going on to do what

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 1>he did just a really genuinely decent human being too.

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Away from that, George Vogel's take on the loss of

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:57.439
<v Speaker 1>Bob Trumpy and his experience with him, and a whole

0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:00.319
<v Speaker 1>lot more, including conversation with Gary Jeff but Walker as well.

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 1>After eleven o'clock So hang out news straight away more

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Sterling on a winning night for basically the Musketeers, the

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 1>bear Cats, the Norse, the Flyers, the Raiders, and to

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:13.760
<v Speaker 1>others and right now Cardinals looking to add on taking

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 1>on those Cowboys right about now on somebody night football

0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:20.000
<v Speaker 1>time for New seven hundred wlw oh later on get

0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:23.399
<v Speaker 1>your sleep, Get ready, get to voting Tomorrow Election Day,

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:26.359
<v Speaker 1>about twenty five percent of eligible voters expected to hit

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:29.160
<v Speaker 1>the polls. If it hits thirty percent, the earth may shake,

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>it could spin off its axis. Who knows what might

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:35.400
<v Speaker 1>happen for mayor and council in Cincinnati and elsewhere. But

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:37.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you want to be heard, you gotta vote.

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:39.880
<v Speaker 1>That's just how it goes, sort of like this. If

0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I want to be heard, I have to turn the

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 1>microphone off that you can't hear me off. Like that's

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:45.759
<v Speaker 1>sort of like this. If you don't you're not heard.

0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 1>If you don't vote, it's how it goes. It's just

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 1>like if it's hurt right in front of me like that,

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:53.839
<v Speaker 1>that's how that works. But I digress. Maybe you don't

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:56.440
<v Speaker 1>want to get in the sandbox and play, you know,

0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 1>it's up to you. Someone who knows about being in

0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:01.720
<v Speaker 1>the big sandbox of life, someone who knows about bowling

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:05.360
<v Speaker 1>three hundred, someone who knows about the late great Bob Trumpy,

0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 1>the godfather of sports talking. For some reason, still takes

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 1>my call on occasion. It's unbelievable. Former sports director WLWT

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Channel five. He's a Greater Cincinnati Journalism Hall of Fame member,

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:20.439
<v Speaker 1>which is crazy because I know him and he takes

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 1>my call. It's unbelievable. So does Cam Brew. He came

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:25.759
<v Speaker 1>in the same class. So did Wayne box Miller, John Popovich,

0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:29.319
<v Speaker 1>and Denny Jansen as well. George Vogel, how are you

0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:30.919
<v Speaker 1>on this fine Monday night?

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:32.800
<v Speaker 3>Early?

0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:36.440
<v Speaker 5>I'm great, and I don't think I owe you money,

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:38.800
<v Speaker 5>but I still take the call, So that's fine.

0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:39.640
<v Speaker 3>You're a good man.

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that because there are people whose calls I

0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 1>don't take myself because they may want money too. It's all.

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:49.760
<v Speaker 3>I think we're all in that boat.

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 1>That's tremendous. Uh, you know, I I crossed paths with

0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Bob Trumpy in their building when we were in Mount Adams.

0:37:58.120 --> 0:38:01.320
<v Speaker 1>But I was just a kid coming up up and

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:03.440
<v Speaker 1>known he was a Bengal. I had seen him play

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 1>a little bit as a Bengal. I'd grown up listening

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 1>to the guy on the radio now known as the

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>godfather of sports talk here at seven hundred WLW certainly

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 1>hurting calling NFL games and doing Olympic stuff and everything else.

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 1>But you bumped shoulders with it and ran around with

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Bob Trumpy at one time or another. We lost him

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 1>over the weekend. My heart goes out to his family,

0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:26.439
<v Speaker 1>But I thought i'd reach out to you to see

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:29.920
<v Speaker 1>what your take is on Bob Trumpy, his legacy, in

0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:31.919
<v Speaker 1>what your relationship may have been like, if any.

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:33.959
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:37.640
<v Speaker 5>Trump was a great guy to me, and I met

0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:41.240
<v Speaker 5>him back in the early eighties when WLW was still

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 5>downtown there on Fourth Street. Oh yeah, and he had

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 5>started out at one of the other stations, I want

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:48.319
<v Speaker 5>to say, fifteen thirty, when he was still playing for

0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:48.880
<v Speaker 5>the Bengals.

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:52.840
<v Speaker 3>And I remember Trump getting drafted. I remember him catching.

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:56.600
<v Speaker 5>A pass on a crazy play late in a game

0:38:56.880 --> 0:38:59.959
<v Speaker 5>a rainy afternoon at Riverfront to win a game again

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 5>the Dolphins, I believe, which was ironic that the Bengals

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:05.799
<v Speaker 5>beat the Dolphins in very wet conditions.

0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:10.640
<v Speaker 3>The fish might might take to that a little better there.

0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:12.759
<v Speaker 3>And then, yeah, exactly.

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 5>And Trump was on I believe fifteen thirty and was

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 5>still on the team, and I think he did it

0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:21.319
<v Speaker 5>some in the off season. He did go to WLWT

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:25.880
<v Speaker 5>and do some weekend anchoring sometimes. And I didn't know

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:30.240
<v Speaker 5>him from that first time I met him early eighties WLW,

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 5>and he was in there.

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:31.840
<v Speaker 3>I believe he was.

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:34.080
<v Speaker 5>I think Seg was there at the time as an

0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 5>intern or something. And that's when I met Seg. I

0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:39.480
<v Speaker 5>met Trump. We were going down there to get some

0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:42.279
<v Speaker 5>audio from an interview he had done, because back then,

0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 5>you know, that's only you had to go get stuff.

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 1>You can try it through.

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:49.080
<v Speaker 5>The internet and audio file and all that stuff. I

0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 5>think I had to go down there and pick up

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 5>one of those old carts if you remember.

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 1>That, I do for those who don't know, that's what

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 1>it was, basically, yeah.

0:39:57.000 --> 0:40:01.200
<v Speaker 5>Exactly, yeah, And and he was always you know, he

0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 5>was good then and said hello, and met this you know,

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:09.319
<v Speaker 5>crazy intern from WLWT, and he's you know, always been

0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:12.720
<v Speaker 5>good since he would come on our Bengals shows after

0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 5>he had retired. You know, I you know, loved the

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:20.480
<v Speaker 5>guy and loved what he did. And he was one

0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:22.440
<v Speaker 5>of the first people to call out the Bengals and

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:26.439
<v Speaker 5>say there was going to be big time problems when

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:30.360
<v Speaker 5>things switched hands down there with family members, and you

0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:34.160
<v Speaker 5>know it, he was pretty much proven right on that.

0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:37.840
<v Speaker 5>At the time, I thought, oh man, this guy's grumpy

0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:40.840
<v Speaker 5>and has an axe to grind and and I'll be

0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:42.720
<v Speaker 5>darned he called that shot.

0:40:42.880 --> 0:40:44.439
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, he was something else.

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:46.839
<v Speaker 5>And then goes on you know after sports talk, which

0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:49.279
<v Speaker 5>he kind of you know, made sports talk what it

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:51.879
<v Speaker 5>was in this town. And WLW did a sports talk

0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 5>show before him, but you know, Phil samp was on there,

0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:57.719
<v Speaker 5>I think Andy Mack sometimes. And then Trump made such

0:40:57.719 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 5>an impact at fifteen thirty and then they brought him

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:02.720
<v Speaker 5>over and you know, the rest is history.

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:05.840
<v Speaker 1>It's an amazing thing. And you've done a lot of

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:09.160
<v Speaker 1>different things for those on the outside looking in, how

0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:12.200
<v Speaker 1>difficult is it for someone because it may not have

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 1>been seamless, but from the outside looking in, it seemed

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 1>like from him going from a player for the Bengals,

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 1>to being on the radio even at the same time,

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:23.399
<v Speaker 1>which was wild, then doing sports talk for the better

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 1>part of a decade, then going off and in the

0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:27.920
<v Speaker 1>midst of that was still doing some NBC stuff, then

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:31.280
<v Speaker 1>doing TV and radio for them, and Olympics and Ryder

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Cup and NFL stuff and seemingly comfortable and did it well.

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 1>How hard is it for someone to be able to

0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:43.880
<v Speaker 1>do those different types of things and make it seem effortless,

0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:46.480
<v Speaker 1>because it did seem like it just was who he was.

0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:52.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Well, Trump very intelligent guy. He was an intelligent guy.

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:56.319
<v Speaker 5>You know, he could size up a situation in a

0:41:56.400 --> 0:41:57.560
<v Speaker 5>hurry if you asked me.

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:00.919
<v Speaker 3>You know, he may mistakes like.

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:03.880
<v Speaker 5>We all do, but man to juggle all those things

0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:05.319
<v Speaker 5>that you just mentioned and.

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 3>Do it so well.

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:08.759
<v Speaker 5>I mean he went when he goes you know, he's

0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:12.279
<v Speaker 5>doing football games and doing the other stuff, and then

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 5>goes to PGA golf. Oh yeah, and I'm like, how's

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:16.600
<v Speaker 5>this going to work?

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:16.960
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 5>It worked out well. And he loved that gig. He

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:23.839
<v Speaker 5>loved that gig, and it worked out very very well.

0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:26.120
<v Speaker 5>And then as you said, he does some Olympics stuff,

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:29.120
<v Speaker 5>and boy, he had a heck of a career. I

0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:31.960
<v Speaker 5>mean you forget half of what he did.

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 3>Because he did so much and so many different things.

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:38.200
<v Speaker 1>It really is. Talking to George Vogel, former sports director WLWT,

0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 1>also Hall of Famer and greater Cincinnati journalism Hall, was

0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:44.839
<v Speaker 1>stirling on the being one talking about Bob Trump. He

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 1>got Fathers Sports Talk and we lost over the weekend,

0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:49.399
<v Speaker 1>and I should clarify he passed away. When I say lost,

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:51.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to joke around, but I've had people

0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:53.320
<v Speaker 1>reach out where they have been messing with me. What

0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 1>do you mean we lost him? He died? Okay, fair enough.

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I just want to claric right. And it's a hard thing,

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:02.880
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know because I'm not experienced it. It

0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:05.239
<v Speaker 1>has to be an odd thing for family members and

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:08.439
<v Speaker 1>very close friends. On one hand, hearing about the one

0:43:08.480 --> 0:43:10.840
<v Speaker 1>that you love who's no longer with you, to be

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:15.319
<v Speaker 1>talked about so glowingly and lovingly by so many as

0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:17.759
<v Speaker 1>a fan, as a co worker, as a friend. But

0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 1>on the other side, it's got to be odd to

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:24.400
<v Speaker 1>have that same level of sharing publicly, just something that

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:27.080
<v Speaker 1>for most of us is a very very private kind

0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 1>of thing. As you tried it to go through this

0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:32.680
<v Speaker 1>process of grieving and everything else. I don't know if

0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:34.839
<v Speaker 1>there's much of a question there, but just think.

0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 5>No, but there's you know, everyone feels for the family

0:43:38.160 --> 0:43:42.279
<v Speaker 5>and you just everything you have goes out to them

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:45.319
<v Speaker 5>as they deal with this. And you know, he was

0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:49.360
<v Speaker 5>I'll tell you trump he ruffled some feathers. But that

0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:53.160
<v Speaker 5>was the thing about him. He would he would tell

0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:55.520
<v Speaker 5>it like he saw it. And he wasn't sugarcoating. He

0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:58.360
<v Speaker 5>was I think I heard someone say today, very direct.

0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:02.120
<v Speaker 5>That's a great way to it. He was very direct.

0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:05.760
<v Speaker 5>There wasn't you know, great area. You knew what he thought,

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 5>where he stood, and uh boy, oh boy.

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:12.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean I just actually before I met.

0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 5>Him, I when I was in college, I actually called

0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 5>him a couple of times on the show, bantering back

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 5>and forth with yeah it was it was a lot

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:25.439
<v Speaker 5>of fun and uh uh he he. I don't think

0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:27.239
<v Speaker 5>he ever really hung up on me, but he did

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:28.840
<v Speaker 5>probably cut me off a couple of times.

0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:30.640
<v Speaker 3>But he should have, because you know, I tend to

0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:31.400
<v Speaker 3>blow the eight.

0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Who doesn't sometimes they hire you when I think that's

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:39.120
<v Speaker 1>how I ended up here too. I think he did

0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:41.239
<v Speaker 1>hang up on Lance. Lance said he did hung up

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:42.240
<v Speaker 1>on him. So that's great.

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:45.759
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the problem was he and Lance were doing the

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:46.919
<v Speaker 5>show together, right.

0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:49.719
<v Speaker 1>Hard to get rid of the co host, right, It's

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:52.280
<v Speaker 1>difficult when you're sitting across from him on a table.

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:56.840
<v Speaker 1>It's a challenge that it really is, exactly. It's an

0:44:56.840 --> 0:44:58.799
<v Speaker 1>odd thing because you were coming up and like you said,

0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 1>he took your calls and you were around as an intern,

0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:04.239
<v Speaker 1>and then you see him in that type of situation.

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:08.200
<v Speaker 1>It's wild to see someone grow and develop. I mean,

0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:10.600
<v Speaker 1>here's a guy that as a football player and is

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:12.840
<v Speaker 1>enough that most of us here you said, wow, you know,

0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:15.839
<v Speaker 1>a decade as a Bengal forty six hundred yards I think,

0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:20.600
<v Speaker 1>thirty five touchdowns receiving averaged over fourteen yards of reception,

0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:23.839
<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest in the game when it comes

0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:26.600
<v Speaker 1>to being a tight end. Going to the Pro Bowl

0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:28.279
<v Speaker 1>a number of times, like four times, I think, is

0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:30.480
<v Speaker 1>what I'm looking at here on this list all Pro

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Team sixty nine as well. And then to make the transition,

0:45:35.800 --> 0:45:38.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of guys try to make the transition to

0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:42.600
<v Speaker 1>broadcasting to media to TV. Now there's podcasting and everything else.

0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 1>And you've encountered a lot of these guys as they

0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:48.920
<v Speaker 1>move through that. It's not an easy thing for someone

0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:51.319
<v Speaker 1>to be able to go through it. And you got

0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:53.120
<v Speaker 1>to have people around you to sort of help you

0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:57.040
<v Speaker 1>when you see someone who sort of comes from that background,

0:45:57.280 --> 0:45:59.719
<v Speaker 1>who makes it through like that, To be opinionated, to

0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:02.640
<v Speaker 1>have voice, to get what this is because it's not

0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 1>always I mean, this is a show. And to be

0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:07.800
<v Speaker 1>able to understand as you just just you know, mentioned

0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:10.359
<v Speaker 1>as he may shut you down and shut you up

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:12.640
<v Speaker 1>as he was trying to get his point across, because

0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:15.200
<v Speaker 1>it was entertainment. That's it. That's it, that's it. There's

0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:17.560
<v Speaker 1>something very special about that entertainment element.

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's that's something that you know, not everyone

0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:25.160
<v Speaker 3>can do. And and that whole Carrie.

0:46:25.080 --> 0:46:28.279
<v Speaker 5>As you know, carrying a three hour show talking and

0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:30.880
<v Speaker 5>talking to people and all that and keeping it entertaining

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:33.520
<v Speaker 5>and and loose and light and something people want to

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:36.080
<v Speaker 5>listen to unless you know, the occasion calls for it.

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 5>But uh, I don't know.

0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:40.920
<v Speaker 3>There's something about Cincinnati too, Like Trump.

0:46:40.719 --> 0:46:44.200
<v Speaker 5>Was the first former Bengal to do all that stuff

0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:47.640
<v Speaker 5>and get into broadcasting. But then you start thinking of

0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:52.000
<v Speaker 5>these other guys and you know, Chris collins Worth, Boomer,

0:46:53.320 --> 0:46:57.480
<v Speaker 5>you know, Solomon Wilcott, Anthony Munhoz, you go, now, Whitworth

0:46:57.480 --> 0:47:00.680
<v Speaker 5>and Fitzpatrick on the on the prime video thing.

0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:03.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's there's a whole list of it. It's crazy.

0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:06.200
<v Speaker 1>What do you think that I don't know what it is?

0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:09.560
<v Speaker 5>I don't know I quite honestly, as we're sitting here

0:47:09.600 --> 0:47:12.399
<v Speaker 5>talking and I've thought about it before, but never really

0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:14.279
<v Speaker 5>in depth, and then it just popped in my head

0:47:14.320 --> 0:47:15.359
<v Speaker 5>and it's like, yeah, he was.

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:17.960
<v Speaker 3>The first of those guys. But for some.

0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:21.680
<v Speaker 5>Reason with Bengals and Cincinnati media, there's and and all

0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:25.000
<v Speaker 5>those guys I mentioned work their tailoff on this stuff,

0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:27.839
<v Speaker 5>and that that that's one part of it, because as

0:47:27.880 --> 0:47:31.719
<v Speaker 5>you know, some people might not work hard at it

0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:33.759
<v Speaker 5>and they're probably not going to make it because you

0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:36.040
<v Speaker 5>kind of have to really work your tail off in this.

0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:38.839
<v Speaker 5>All those guys did, and you can still work your

0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:40.080
<v Speaker 5>tail off and not make it.

0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:43.560
<v Speaker 3>You know, we all have. I mean I could name.

0:47:44.320 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 5>Hundreds of people that have done it just you know,

0:47:47.160 --> 0:47:51.320
<v Speaker 5>sometimes it's right place, right time, just right personality that hits.

0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:54.960
<v Speaker 5>But for some reason, those guys all were able to

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:57.319
<v Speaker 5>do it as former Bengals. But I do think, you know,

0:47:57.640 --> 0:48:00.600
<v Speaker 5>the work factor is first and four for almost in.

0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:03.719
<v Speaker 1>That absolutely and whatever that intangible is aside from the

0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:05.879
<v Speaker 1>work ethic is certainly a part of it is maybe

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:07.920
<v Speaker 1>something in the water, and it's pretty amazing.

0:48:08.160 --> 0:48:12.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it really is. It could be NF.

0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:14.719
<v Speaker 5>Well, I don't want to make jokes and kick the

0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:17.399
<v Speaker 5>Bengals leather down, but maybe it's like, well, they don't

0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:19.600
<v Speaker 5>pay squat and I got to find something to make

0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:21.719
<v Speaker 5>money because I'm not making.

0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:22.800
<v Speaker 3>It here, I got to grind.

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, in a couple of decades ago, that's

0:48:25.680 --> 0:48:27.239
<v Speaker 1>really what it was. I mean, there were guys who

0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:29.680
<v Speaker 1>had to get jobs in the off season, back in

0:48:29.719 --> 0:48:30.759
<v Speaker 1>the early part of the game.

0:48:32.120 --> 0:48:34.520
<v Speaker 5>It's amazing you look at some of those guys, you know,

0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:37.520
<v Speaker 5>like Anthony who was the best of all time, and

0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:40.160
<v Speaker 5>some kid who hasn't played it down is getting a

0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:43.400
<v Speaker 5>contract bigger than you know, his whole career earnings.

0:48:43.560 --> 0:48:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, insane, it really is.

0:48:45.080 --> 0:48:47.719
<v Speaker 3>And that's where we're at. I mean, they are, let's

0:48:47.719 --> 0:48:49.880
<v Speaker 3>face that the NFL is generating money.

0:48:50.040 --> 0:48:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you can hear it being printed right now.

0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Even on a Monday night with the Cardinals twenty seven

0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:59.400
<v Speaker 1>to seventeen over the Cowboys, as we speak talking to

0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:03.600
<v Speaker 1>George former sports director Channel five WLWT, and Hall of

0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:08.040
<v Speaker 1>Famer and greater Cincinnati journalism, all talking about the late

0:49:08.080 --> 0:49:10.600
<v Speaker 1>great Bob Trumpy. What have I not asked about Trumpy

0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:13.799
<v Speaker 1>and the endeavors that we know of aside from him

0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:15.879
<v Speaker 1>as a human being away from that which we've heard

0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:19.040
<v Speaker 1>good things and about him in that regard, Because as

0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:20.640
<v Speaker 1>much as I'd like to be able to say I knew,

0:49:20.640 --> 0:49:22.960
<v Speaker 1>the guy was literally just a nod, a quick handshake

0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:25.120
<v Speaker 1>and moving through as I was honestly a little bit

0:49:25.160 --> 0:49:28.120
<v Speaker 1>in awe and slightly intimidated just because I had just

0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:29.879
<v Speaker 1>come into the building. Was like, oh, and I didn't

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:32.480
<v Speaker 1>want to be in the way because I just didn't

0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:33.440
<v Speaker 1>want to, you know what I mean. I didn't want

0:49:33.440 --> 0:49:36.200
<v Speaker 1>to be a problem, which is challenging for me on

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:36.759
<v Speaker 1>a good day.

0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:40.879
<v Speaker 5>You know, he came to us, and this has been

0:49:40.920 --> 0:49:44.480
<v Speaker 5>a while back when we did one of our Bengals

0:49:44.480 --> 0:49:47.000
<v Speaker 5>shows and we had a lot of the you know,

0:49:47.200 --> 0:49:49.440
<v Speaker 5>ex players and a lot of the older players come in

0:49:49.480 --> 0:49:52.080
<v Speaker 5>and talk about different earrows and things like that with

0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:55.520
<v Speaker 5>the Bengals, and he came in and it was funny

0:49:55.560 --> 0:49:57.120
<v Speaker 5>talking to him about all that stuff.

0:49:57.440 --> 0:49:57.640
<v Speaker 3>This.

0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:04.480
<v Speaker 5>He really really appreciated everything that happened along his journey

0:50:05.080 --> 0:50:08.680
<v Speaker 5>with with media and and you know, the call and

0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:12.000
<v Speaker 5>the golf and the Olympics and just all those different things.

0:50:12.080 --> 0:50:15.560
<v Speaker 5>And and you I was talking to him about it.

0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:18.600
<v Speaker 5>It's like, man, he's telling me this stuff and I'm asking,

0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:21.839
<v Speaker 5>and it's like he really appreciated. He loved it. He

0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:23.840
<v Speaker 5>loved it. You know, he knew when it was time

0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:28.160
<v Speaker 5>to hang it up and move on. But uh, but

0:50:28.280 --> 0:50:32.880
<v Speaker 5>he really appreciated everything he was able to do because

0:50:32.920 --> 0:50:33.160
<v Speaker 5>of that.

0:50:33.520 --> 0:50:35.360
<v Speaker 1>And it's, you know, the thing he was good at it,

0:50:35.440 --> 0:50:37.759
<v Speaker 1>he enjoyed it. He appreciated it too. I Mean, these

0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:39.920
<v Speaker 1>are all the things I think that probably people who

0:50:39.960 --> 0:50:43.239
<v Speaker 1>are in that situation that's maybe that special thing that

0:50:43.320 --> 0:50:45.920
<v Speaker 1>they have in that that way too, because.

0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:49.240
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, and when when you're in the middle

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:51.920
<v Speaker 5>of it, you don't really stop and think about it

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:52.319
<v Speaker 5>or all.

0:50:52.400 --> 0:50:52.640
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:56.479
<v Speaker 5>It's like, since I retired, I'll sit here and think, oh, wow,

0:50:56.560 --> 0:50:58.640
<v Speaker 5>yeah I went there, I was at that field, or

0:50:58.680 --> 0:51:02.360
<v Speaker 5>I was here for that, and it's like, damn, you know,

0:51:02.560 --> 0:51:03.520
<v Speaker 5>I was pretty lucky.

0:51:03.680 --> 0:51:06.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah I looked at it that way.

0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I've watched you. It's the same type

0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:09.839
<v Speaker 1>of thing. I was like, hey, and then I get

0:51:10.000 --> 0:51:11.719
<v Speaker 1>like across pass with you and talk like I said,

0:51:11.719 --> 0:51:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, i'd say it lightheartedly. When you know you

0:51:13.640 --> 0:51:15.840
<v Speaker 1>actually take a call. I mean, I don't know. I

0:51:15.840 --> 0:51:18.239
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't call them call Okay, you know what I mean.

0:51:18.239 --> 0:51:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Though you have lived these things, you've done these things,

0:51:21.040 --> 0:51:23.400
<v Speaker 1>You've been these places also, and when you're in it,

0:51:23.400 --> 0:51:25.840
<v Speaker 1>it is difficult to really appreciate it because you're working

0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:28.640
<v Speaker 1>in your Yeah, you know exactly.

0:51:28.200 --> 0:51:31.440
<v Speaker 5>You're you're you're you're complaining about something because there's a

0:51:31.480 --> 0:51:34.360
<v Speaker 5>deadline coming up, and there's a piece of equipment not working,

0:51:34.719 --> 0:51:38.200
<v Speaker 5>or someone not answering the phone, or you got writer's block.

0:51:38.600 --> 0:51:39.719
<v Speaker 3>You know, you're complaining.

0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:42.480
<v Speaker 5>But at the same time you've got to appreciate and

0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:45.759
<v Speaker 5>and that's hard to do. But certainly once you're out.

0:51:45.680 --> 0:51:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Of it, it's it's easy to do.

0:51:47.080 --> 0:51:50.280
<v Speaker 5>You look back, and you know, I remember my mistakes,

0:51:50.320 --> 0:51:53.080
<v Speaker 5>but I don't remember anybody else's. I just remember having

0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:55.000
<v Speaker 5>a good time and all the great places we went.

0:51:55.239 --> 0:51:57.760
<v Speaker 1>And that's really the thing. I mean, it's living the dream.

0:51:58.160 --> 0:52:00.600
<v Speaker 1>It's it's almost like free money and you're able to

0:52:00.600 --> 0:52:03.160
<v Speaker 1>do something that you enjoy that your passion, and not

0:52:03.200 --> 0:52:05.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people get to enjoy that. And I

0:52:05.000 --> 0:52:06.840
<v Speaker 1>feel pretty lucky about that too. I'm glad you do

0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:09.840
<v Speaker 1>as well. That's that's that's excellent, uh, Georgie.

0:52:09.880 --> 0:52:12.440
<v Speaker 5>And I think Bob did with the football and the

0:52:12.719 --> 0:52:14.520
<v Speaker 5>uh and the broadcast end of it.

0:52:14.760 --> 0:52:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was just so good. Uh. And everybody that

0:52:17.360 --> 0:52:20.279
<v Speaker 1>I've talked to has so has shared so much as

0:52:20.280 --> 0:52:22.800
<v Speaker 1>far as him just being a good person aside from

0:52:22.880 --> 0:52:25.279
<v Speaker 1>the work and that. I think that's what we had.

0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:27.920
<v Speaker 5>That voice too, and it was like that voice, you know,

0:52:28.000 --> 0:52:30.400
<v Speaker 5>it's all it was Darth Vader before Darth Vader.

0:52:30.680 --> 0:52:33.640
<v Speaker 1>That's true. That's well stated. Man.

0:52:34.520 --> 0:52:36.319
<v Speaker 3>He spoke and you lessened man.

0:52:36.400 --> 0:52:39.360
<v Speaker 5>That voice commanded respect and and by guy that he

0:52:39.400 --> 0:52:39.920
<v Speaker 5>deserved it.

0:52:40.000 --> 0:52:41.640
<v Speaker 1>I can remember being in my bedroom with the hand

0:52:41.680 --> 0:52:44.360
<v Speaker 1>me down Reader's digest radio with an earbud when I

0:52:44.640 --> 0:52:48.120
<v Speaker 1>listening to him as a kid. UH tell you, yeah,

0:52:48.120 --> 0:52:49.280
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty crazy.

0:52:49.640 --> 0:52:49.799
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

0:52:49.960 --> 0:52:52.640
<v Speaker 1>George Vogel, thank you take it. Thank you for taking

0:52:52.680 --> 0:52:56.280
<v Speaker 1>my call and sharing a little bit of your experience

0:52:56.280 --> 0:52:58.400
<v Speaker 1>and your and your understanding about Bob Trump and the

0:52:58.440 --> 0:53:01.800
<v Speaker 1>man and the professional that he was and just bringing

0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:04.800
<v Speaker 1>what you bring to the table. So thank you.

0:53:04.920 --> 0:53:06.920
<v Speaker 3>Yep, anytime, Sterling give me a call.

0:53:06.960 --> 0:53:09.399
<v Speaker 1>Take care of yourself before I let you bounce. You're

0:53:09.400 --> 0:53:12.120
<v Speaker 1>doing much bowling because I know you. We always talk

0:53:12.280 --> 0:53:13.520
<v Speaker 1>like I got bowling in the morning.

0:53:14.840 --> 0:53:18.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I had a back surgery about a year ago

0:53:18.719 --> 0:53:20.440
<v Speaker 5>and I haven't gotten back in the bowling. But I

0:53:21.000 --> 0:53:23.880
<v Speaker 5>got a tea time tomorrow at ten fifty seven, so

0:53:23.960 --> 0:53:24.960
<v Speaker 5>I got that going on.

0:53:25.120 --> 0:53:26.799
<v Speaker 3>But I'm going to try and get back in the

0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:27.600
<v Speaker 3>bowling this winter.

0:53:27.760 --> 0:53:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, I hope you hit it good tomorrow and enjoy

0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:31.920
<v Speaker 1>it before it gets too cold and the frozen tundra

0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:34.920
<v Speaker 1>of a Cincinnati winner and those gray skies get upon us.

0:53:34.920 --> 0:53:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Go hit it well tomorrow.

0:53:36.800 --> 0:53:38.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, those days are coming fast.

0:53:38.560 --> 0:53:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Thanks Sterling, take care of yourself. He's Georgia Bulg, the

0:53:40.719 --> 0:53:43.680
<v Speaker 1>former sports director WLWT Channel five, talking about the late

0:53:43.719 --> 0:53:46.879
<v Speaker 1>great Bob Trumpy Godfather's sports radio here on the Big One.

0:53:47.040 --> 0:53:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Coming up. We'll talk to Gary Jeff Walker after eleven o'clock.

0:53:49.480 --> 0:53:51.600
<v Speaker 1>A lot of other ground to cover your chance to

0:53:51.600 --> 0:53:55.480
<v Speaker 1>get interacted. Beautiful Monday night here the Nation station basketball

0:53:55.520 --> 0:53:58.719
<v Speaker 1>bear Cats win ninety four sixty three over Western Carolina.

0:53:58.760 --> 0:54:03.279
<v Speaker 1>Earlier Musketeers handled Maris sixty six sixty two at Sentas

0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Nku Norris at their place in Northern Kentucky Truist Arena

0:54:06.719 --> 0:54:09.799
<v Speaker 1>one twenty six to sixty nine, they handled U. C.

0:54:09.800 --> 0:54:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Claremont with ease, and Canisius's Golden Griffin leave you the

0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:16.520
<v Speaker 1>arena sad as the Dane Flyers pound them eighty eight

0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:21.480
<v Speaker 1>forty eight and the Wright State Raiders pounded Franklin's Grizzlies

0:54:21.840 --> 0:54:25.040
<v Speaker 1>eighty six thirty six at the Nutter Center Quick Break

0:54:25.080 --> 0:54:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Comeback News. A little bit later, Gary Jeff Walker, Final

0:54:28.440 --> 0:54:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Hour ahead on a Monday night, Sterling, where the Hoode

0:54:31.160 --> 0:54:34.240
<v Speaker 1>play even though it was not a good outcome yesterday

0:54:34.320 --> 0:54:36.640
<v Speaker 1>as while as the bearcatch the Musketeers, and sooner than

0:54:36.719 --> 0:54:40.160
<v Speaker 1>later hod Stoveleague action here talking red seven hundredu WLW

0:54:40.280 --> 0:54:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati Election Day tomorrow, Go vote if you haven't already voted.

0:54:45.760 --> 0:54:49.399
<v Speaker 1>He heard my recommendation. So I'm trying to say here

0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:52.760
<v Speaker 1>to hew final Hour together Monday night, Gary Jeff Walker's

0:54:52.800 --> 0:54:55.239
<v Speaker 1>normally here at this time. Instead he took the night off.

0:54:55.280 --> 0:54:56.759
<v Speaker 1>Yet he reached out to me earless, sause I really

0:54:56.760 --> 0:54:58.279
<v Speaker 1>want to be on to talk about gen Z and

0:54:58.320 --> 0:55:01.360
<v Speaker 1>their relationship problems. I'm like, what are you talking about,

0:55:01.400 --> 0:55:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Gary Jeff Walker, how are you? What are you doing

0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:08.200
<v Speaker 1>with Sterling? Hanging out on a Monday night? Bearcats win,

0:55:08.680 --> 0:55:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Musketeers win, Norse win, Dayton Flyers win, Right State Raiders win,

0:55:12.920 --> 0:55:16.720
<v Speaker 1>and there's two losing teams playing Monday night football cards

0:55:16.880 --> 0:55:19.200
<v Speaker 1>and Cowboys and now you on the line, Gary Jeff,

0:55:19.200 --> 0:55:20.280
<v Speaker 1>You've made my night complete.

0:55:21.680 --> 0:55:24.239
<v Speaker 4>Well, Sterling, I would think that there are probably some

0:55:24.280 --> 0:55:26.640
<v Speaker 4>people who think there's an enormous amount of hubris for

0:55:26.719 --> 0:55:29.360
<v Speaker 4>me topear in this timeslot when I'm actually.

0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:29.799
<v Speaker 3>Not on the air.

0:55:30.600 --> 0:55:33.120
<v Speaker 4>But it's not a matter of It's not a matter

0:55:33.200 --> 0:55:37.719
<v Speaker 4>of narcissism at all. But there are several things percolating.

0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:41.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm still getting over the passing of the Great Bob Trumpy. Yes,

0:55:41.880 --> 0:55:47.280
<v Speaker 4>and you among many people I know who have suffered

0:55:47.320 --> 0:55:51.560
<v Speaker 4>from TDS. Trumpy huh, Trumpy syndrome?

0:55:51.680 --> 0:55:53.160
<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about?

0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:58.800
<v Speaker 4>You have Trumpy derangement syndrome. You've actually said that everything

0:55:58.840 --> 0:56:01.920
<v Speaker 4>about Trumpy ever did or said must be bad because

0:56:01.920 --> 0:56:04.040
<v Speaker 4>it was Bob Trumpy. We're going to get past that.

0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Have you had a blunt trauma?

0:56:07.400 --> 0:56:10.320
<v Speaker 4>Well, not recently, I did crack some ribs about.

0:56:10.080 --> 0:56:10.839
<v Speaker 3>Two weeks ago.

0:56:11.160 --> 0:56:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's not good.

0:56:12.160 --> 0:56:15.200
<v Speaker 4>No, I just wanted to mention Bob Trumpy. We'll be

0:56:15.280 --> 0:56:19.040
<v Speaker 4>having in depth discussions on the memory of Bob Trumpy

0:56:19.080 --> 0:56:22.960
<v Speaker 4>tomorrow night on the Election Night Show. We'll deliver that

0:56:23.120 --> 0:56:27.600
<v Speaker 4>in between election results tomorrow from nine to midnight. But

0:56:28.600 --> 0:56:31.920
<v Speaker 4>I saw something today and it just thought I thought

0:56:31.960 --> 0:56:34.920
<v Speaker 4>this was a great sterling topic. And it was that

0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:40.120
<v Speaker 4>gen Z men for some reason are afraid to go

0:56:40.200 --> 0:56:46.840
<v Speaker 4>out on dates because of possible failures that could become viral.

0:56:47.640 --> 0:56:50.319
<v Speaker 1>Is apparently they're afraid they're going to be filmed right

0:56:50.400 --> 0:56:52.720
<v Speaker 1>in some fashion doing something stupid.

0:56:53.320 --> 0:56:55.800
<v Speaker 4>And doing something stupid, saying something stupid.

0:56:55.800 --> 0:56:58.080
<v Speaker 1>It's never stopped either one of us. But we're older

0:56:58.120 --> 0:56:58.399
<v Speaker 1>than that.

0:57:00.200 --> 0:57:05.120
<v Speaker 4>Thing, and I wanted to relate that current day news

0:57:05.120 --> 0:57:10.520
<v Speaker 4>story to what many people like me faced when we

0:57:10.520 --> 0:57:13.759
<v Speaker 4>were very young. I was in eighth grade at knox

0:57:13.760 --> 0:57:17.160
<v Speaker 4>Stone Junior High School. I was a burgeoning star on

0:57:17.240 --> 0:57:21.960
<v Speaker 4>the junior high basketball team. And in those days, in

0:57:21.640 --> 0:57:27.439
<v Speaker 4>the late seventies, mid to late seventies, the boys team

0:57:27.480 --> 0:57:31.880
<v Speaker 4>would play after the girls team in basketball. And so

0:57:32.840 --> 0:57:38.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm in eighth grade, probably about fourteen years old, and

0:57:38.600 --> 0:57:42.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm in the stands with my one of my first girlfriends.

0:57:42.880 --> 0:57:47.040
<v Speaker 4>We were holding hands and there was some kissing, but yeah,

0:57:47.080 --> 0:57:48.360
<v Speaker 4>nothing heavy.

0:57:48.600 --> 0:57:51.160
<v Speaker 3>Nothing. I mean we didn't.

0:57:50.840 --> 0:57:55.960
<v Speaker 4>Get past well, we wouldn't get past a World Series

0:57:56.040 --> 0:57:58.800
<v Speaker 4>third base without being thrown out at home plate. Let's

0:57:58.800 --> 0:58:00.960
<v Speaker 4>say that that happened many times in Game.

0:58:00.800 --> 0:58:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Seven, somebody had to shut down, right.

0:58:04.320 --> 0:58:08.360
<v Speaker 4>But I'm sitting in the stands with my girlfriend, Laurel Varney,

0:58:08.720 --> 0:58:10.960
<v Speaker 4>and I can say her name now because I mean

0:58:11.000 --> 0:58:14.160
<v Speaker 4>it's been many years and the statue de limitations is

0:58:14.240 --> 0:58:18.600
<v Speaker 4>long worn off. But I'm in there until the third quarter,

0:58:19.040 --> 0:58:21.400
<v Speaker 4>the end of the the third quarter of the girls games,

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<v Speaker 4>and then it's time for the boys to go and

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<v Speaker 4>get dressed out for the boys game, which immediately follows. Yes, well,

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<v Speaker 4>after half an hour or an hour of holding hands

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<v Speaker 4>with Laurel Barney in the stands before our game, I

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<v Speaker 4>am first in the locker room to change out for

0:58:39.320 --> 0:58:45.120
<v Speaker 4>the boys game. Well, I apparently, unbeknownst to me, I

0:58:45.200 --> 0:58:50.320
<v Speaker 4>felt something funny, but it had been become physically aroused

0:58:51.040 --> 0:58:53.600
<v Speaker 4>by my holding hands in the stands of Laurel Barney.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm the first one in the boys locker room. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>a teammate of mine came in as I was getting dressed.

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<v Speaker 4>I was already stripped down to my underwear, and apparently

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<v Speaker 4>it was obvious that I'd become physically aroused sitting in

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<v Speaker 4>the stands holding hands and kissing with Laurel Varney before

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<v Speaker 4>the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Because so you're describing this repeatedly for I don't know

0:59:15.880 --> 0:59:19.200
<v Speaker 1>what reason. You even after you've left the stands and

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting dressed up to go play, you're still in

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<v Speaker 1>this stay.

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<v Speaker 4>There are tell there are telltale signs that I was

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<v Speaker 4>physically aroused.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I hear it.

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<v Speaker 4>And so a teammate comes in, not knowing any of this,

0:59:34.440 --> 0:59:41.720
<v Speaker 4>but sees that notices for some reason, right before I

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<v Speaker 4>put on my uniform. And so for the entire rest

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<v Speaker 4>of the year, and my entire ninth grade year, also

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<v Speaker 4>on the basketball team and the student body at Naxtas

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<v Speaker 4>Junior High School in Pedersonville, Tennessee, when I'm fifteen, sixteen

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<v Speaker 4>years old and known as sperm worm. Oh my, now,

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<v Speaker 4>this is the nickname that I had to live through

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<v Speaker 4>even the sophomore year of high school and went to

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<v Speaker 4>another high school, and I had to be known pointed out.

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<v Speaker 4>I cannot imagine if that had gone viral, if we

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<v Speaker 4>had had cell phones, if this had been caught on

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<v Speaker 4>a video. For some reason, no person would wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>have recorded this, me being physically aroused as I was

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<v Speaker 4>putting on my uniform to go play basketball. It was

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<v Speaker 4>bad enough with is the word of mouth it went

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<v Speaker 4>viral in the way that it would go viral in

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<v Speaker 4>the late nineteen seventies. Sure, the way it goes viral

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<v Speaker 4>tonight now is all around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's what I want to own first. Yeah, did

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<v Speaker 1>the girls catch on to this and make fun of you?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you traumatized and somehow paralyzed? Is that why you

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<v Speaker 1>left that school to go to another because you were shamed?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I went I left that school to go to

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<v Speaker 4>another because that's what we did. We went from Junior

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<v Speaker 4>High to the Okaye.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't just a different high school.

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<v Speaker 6>I got you, Okay, This this lengthy legacy followed me

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<v Speaker 6>right next still, because apparently it was noticeable enough for

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<v Speaker 6>someone to see.

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<v Speaker 3>At the end of the hallway.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm thinking that the initial reaction by that teammate

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<v Speaker 4>and by other teammates were that possibly I was more

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<v Speaker 4>equipped for adulthood than they were.

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<v Speaker 1>I see. So do you think that if you had

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<v Speaker 1>been alive and this had happened today, in the fear

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<v Speaker 1>of being exposed publicly, would.

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<v Speaker 4>You could you imagine sperm worm going worldwide on social

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<v Speaker 4>media on x or Twitter or anything, and and what

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<v Speaker 4>you would have to live down as being the real

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<v Speaker 4>luct and stud of eighth grade basketball. This could have

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<v Speaker 4>been a library, and it was. It was absolutely embarrassing

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<v Speaker 4>enough for me.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're still telling the story because you feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>enough to do that now. So what is the lesson

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<v Speaker 1>learned here for kids today? Is to not worry about it,

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<v Speaker 1>to not worry about the social media so much, and

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<v Speaker 1>just focus on living their lives.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't you think the lesson is? The lesson is you

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<v Speaker 4>are if you are noticeable enough to be known as

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<v Speaker 4>sperm worm, you should live in that moment as a teenager.

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<v Speaker 4>And I understand that while the girls may laugh at first,

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<v Speaker 4>you'll be laughing last in the ultimate because they'll understand

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<v Speaker 4>that you're a man with plan and ultimately you can

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<v Speaker 4>help them in ways that they're they're mocking. Boyfriends could

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<v Speaker 4>never help them. But one probing further, what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 4>further is that embarrassment in dating and coming of age

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<v Speaker 4>is a right of passage, and that boys today, regardless

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<v Speaker 4>of there are cameras and phones everywhere, don't be embarrassed

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<v Speaker 4>to go through that and understand that everybody goes through that,

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<v Speaker 4>and while you may be singled out, it's just a

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<v Speaker 4>right of passage, and that we are so measured and

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<v Speaker 4>we are so judged in an age of viral videos everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>It's simply part of growing up and you just need

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<v Speaker 4>to experience it. And I'm just telling you, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not proud that I was that physically excited. It was

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<v Speaker 4>something that I couldn't help right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the bottom line is I think that really what

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<v Speaker 1>it boils down to is if you're so fixated on

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<v Speaker 1>what everybody else is saying. I mean, things can be amplified,

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<v Speaker 1>but it really is not relevant to everyday life. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to keep you from getting a job.

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<v Speaker 3>I did not become.

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<v Speaker 4>A true adult person in this life, Sterling, and neither

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<v Speaker 4>did you. Until the age we realize that what other

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<v Speaker 4>people say and what other people do.

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<v Speaker 3>Is not a.

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<v Speaker 4>Measure of who we are. It's a measure of who

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<v Speaker 4>they are. That's right, and that we need to be

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<v Speaker 4>ourselves and not worry about what other people think of us,

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<v Speaker 4>and to not let that be our judge.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's hard, though, when you're a kid coming up though,

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<v Speaker 1>your whole world is you know, those hallways at school,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's that neighborhood. And it used to be the

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<v Speaker 1>phone that was unplugged into the wall, and now of

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<v Speaker 1>course it's your wrist or your tablet or your laptop

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<v Speaker 1>to school or or whatever else that goes into it. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know how you get kids beyond the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of thinking that that screen is everything when what's in

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<v Speaker 1>front of you and the communication that you have with

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<v Speaker 1>other human beings face to face and everyday life is

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<v Speaker 1>more important than something that you can turn off or

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<v Speaker 1>restart and unplug or whatever else. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>you get beyond that. I think that's the trick if

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<v Speaker 1>somebody is so fixated on it. And there are a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot of kids who are, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>adults who are.

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<v Speaker 4>I spent years of my life in this business, as

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<v Speaker 4>you probably did too, and we all have egos and

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<v Speaker 4>we're always worried about what people.

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<v Speaker 3>Think of us.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, to a point, and I always I always tell people,

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<v Speaker 4>if Willie is talking about me, it means that I matter.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't matter what he is saying. It doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 4>what anyone else says about you. If someone finds you

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<v Speaker 4>deems you worthy enough to talk about it means you matter.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 4>The moment, the moment that they're not talking about you,

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<v Speaker 4>that is the time to worry. That is the time

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<v Speaker 4>to draw within yourself or realize that you need to

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<v Speaker 4>make some changes if you really care about such things.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm just telling you that I don't care what

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<v Speaker 4>anyone thinks of me for my opinions or anything else,

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<v Speaker 4>because I own those, I'm true to those, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not going to change those because of any kind of

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<v Speaker 4>cancel culture, and because any kind of viral video campaign

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<v Speaker 4>against me.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you had that happen to you? Have you had

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<v Speaker 1>a viral campaign against you? At this point? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>are people apt out to get you?

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<v Speaker 3>Gary?

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Walker?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 4>I think that people universally loved me, Stern.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think your love too, But you sound like

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<v Speaker 1>you have a complex, like people are maybe out to

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<v Speaker 1>get you. I'm very concerned now.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm worried about that I'm trying to preach a message here, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>and you're trying and you're trying to verbally piss on

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<v Speaker 4>my sermony.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I am not. I am not. I find that

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to the Church of Gary Jeff Walker,

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<v Speaker 1>But I am. We've known each other for the better

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<v Speaker 1>part of thirty years now, maybe more than that, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>which is disturbed.

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<v Speaker 4>Nineteen ninety three, it's been thirty two years since we

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<v Speaker 4>first met. Holy crap, and at the Brady Bunch House

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<v Speaker 4>in Dayton, Ohio, Kettering, Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, and they've changed that dot.

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<v Speaker 4>Worry owned by a man named Alex Williams who had

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<v Speaker 4>an r D in the back parking lot where he

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<v Speaker 4>would meet his mistresses.

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<v Speaker 3>Allegedly.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything about any of that, No, te

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<v Speaker 1>I just heard these stories, Yeah I heard allegedly.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, so, yes, we've known each other a long time.

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<v Speaker 4>But what I'm telling you, and what I would love

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<v Speaker 4>to tell gen Z, is yes, you know what, the

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<v Speaker 4>technology may have changed, but things are the way they

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<v Speaker 4>always have been. And don't let your growth or your

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<v Speaker 4>self identity be dictated by what other people say or

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<v Speaker 4>do you know what not? Everybody needs to be famous

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<v Speaker 4>for five seconds, and not everybody needs to be judged

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<v Speaker 4>by what other people document about them at any given

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<v Speaker 4>moment in time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well stated that was good. That maybe the best thing

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've ever heard you say.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you just haven't listened enough.

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<v Speaker 1>That's probably true. I need to listen more. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to even listen to the voices in my

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<v Speaker 1>head more. But I keep hearing you there now, so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes quickly, I know you're you're running short.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>God gave us two ears and one mouth for the reason. Yes, listen, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>and be confident within yourself no matter what others say.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel good, I feel good. You feel good. This

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<v Speaker 1>has been good.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel great.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, I think i'm I'm visibly excited right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And with that, I'll leave you because I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to wait until you dress out for the next game. Jerry,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Walker, he'll be back tomorrow. I get to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you, brother, good to talk to you. We'll see

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<v Speaker 1>you later more Sterling coming back. I hope he's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It's seven hundred WL night, first wenty forecast on the

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<v Speaker 1>Big One out A thirty four tonight middle sixties for

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<v Speaker 1>your Tuesday election day. Go vote if you care or don't.

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<v Speaker 1>About twenty five percent of people expected to actually hit

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<v Speaker 1>the polls in total from early voting, mail in and

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow at the ballot box on election day Tuesday, November

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth, and we'll see exactly how many people make

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<v Speaker 1>a decision about the mayor or council and a host

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<v Speaker 1>of other things that are on the ballot, depending on

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<v Speaker 1>what districts you happen to reresiding him. It's a forty

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<v Speaker 1>seven right now. Your severe weather station seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 1>Next couple days warmer Wednesday, close to seventy sixty again Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>low sixty tomorrow. Go talking to Gary Jeff earlier. It

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<v Speaker 1>will be back tomorrow night talking about his care and

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<v Speaker 1>concern about relationship issues for the people. And that's great

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<v Speaker 1>Lance McAllister earlier too. You can check out the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>He and George Vogel both joined me separately. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>our sports talk host here in the evenings does a

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<v Speaker 1>roundtable show at Rocky and everybody else and Lapham what

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<v Speaker 1>he does on the Bengals Roundtable and everything else at

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<v Speaker 1>Lance McCallister. George Vogel, former sports director at WLWT Channel

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<v Speaker 1>five talking about Bob Trumpy, godfather of sports talk here

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WLW, who passed away over the weekend at

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<v Speaker 1>the age of eighty. Just fantastic stories and experience with him,

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<v Speaker 1>working with him, knowing him. Certainly the numbers stand for themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>As a player ten years or so as a Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>Bengal and original football Bengal coming out of Utah and

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<v Speaker 1>going on to do what he did as a broadcaster

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<v Speaker 1>covering NFL and the Olympics and Ryder Cup stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>just a story career in what everyone has talked about

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<v Speaker 1>him is just being just a decent, wonderful human being.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's quite a loss. I grew up listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the guy, and it's had a lot of these lately, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is the way life works. So my heart

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<v Speaker 1>goes out to his family. And we come back after

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<v Speaker 1>your eleven third of report, we'll talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about I don't know if you can remember this either friends,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe at a party, maybe when you were in college

1:11:44.720 --> 1:11:47.320
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. It's been some weeks ago. Story was in

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<v Speaker 1>the news. Now there's going to be a lawsuit. There

1:11:49.720 --> 1:11:52.759
<v Speaker 1>were ten people that were on that balcony. The second

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<v Speaker 1>or third week in October that collapsed. A couple of them,

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<v Speaker 1>at least one I think, had life life altering injuries

1:12:01.800 --> 1:12:03.880
<v Speaker 1>that go along with that. With this balcony collapse, now

1:12:03.880 --> 1:12:07.320
<v Speaker 1>there's some litigation associated with it. Generally, I think they're

1:12:07.360 --> 1:12:11.519
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be set in, designed and structure supported for

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<v Speaker 1>something in the neighborhood of about ten people on one

1:12:14.880 --> 1:12:19.400
<v Speaker 1>of those balconies more than that, otherwise it becomes a danger.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many parties over the years that

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<v Speaker 1>when I was in school, either visiting friends at their

1:12:25.160 --> 1:12:27.800
<v Speaker 1>apartments where there were parties, or elsewhere where there were

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<v Speaker 1>some type of balcony on a higher level floor, second, third,

1:12:31.360 --> 1:12:35.000
<v Speaker 1>fourth floor, whatever where. Regularly there would be so many

1:12:35.040 --> 1:12:38.760
<v Speaker 1>people on those balconies that I just outside looking in

1:12:38.840 --> 1:12:41.080
<v Speaker 1>walking into a building or a house like that, I'm like,

1:12:41.120 --> 1:12:45.040
<v Speaker 1>that is not a good place to be, very unsettling.

1:12:45.080 --> 1:12:46.640
<v Speaker 1>So it's one of those things that it's sort of

1:12:46.840 --> 1:12:49.600
<v Speaker 1>a person at the party needs to be aware, and

1:12:49.720 --> 1:12:52.799
<v Speaker 1>obviously the struct structure needs to be built a design

1:12:53.080 --> 1:12:56.080
<v Speaker 1>and made sure that it's inspected and as it should be.

1:12:56.080 --> 1:12:57.880
<v Speaker 1>And this litigation is going to play out because it's

1:12:57.880 --> 1:13:02.080
<v Speaker 1>just a horrible situation, but I mean countless times, countless

1:13:02.120 --> 1:13:05.240
<v Speaker 1>parties where I would see tons and tons of people

1:13:05.280 --> 1:13:07.600
<v Speaker 1>piled on balconies. They were not designed to have that

1:13:07.680 --> 1:13:10.680
<v Speaker 1>many people on them. It is disturbing. Lee Mawin's got

1:13:10.720 --> 1:13:12.439
<v Speaker 1>your eleven thirty report. We'll talk on that and a

1:13:12.439 --> 1:13:15.599
<v Speaker 1>whole lot more coming up here, all before the ATM starts.

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<v Speaker 1>Ready to roll on seven hundred WLW. Hey, how you doing, Sterling?

1:13:19.840 --> 1:13:22.439
<v Speaker 1>Just about done, not quite rolling till midnight. Then Kevin

1:13:22.479 --> 1:13:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Gordon fits behind the wheel. Joe Waddell will get it

1:13:25.280 --> 1:13:27.840
<v Speaker 1>started and warmed up in America's truck and network will

1:13:27.920 --> 1:13:30.600
<v Speaker 1>roll after the midnight report. Lee Mawin has news. He

1:13:30.640 --> 1:13:33.000
<v Speaker 1>just stopped in to tell me, giving me more details

1:13:33.040 --> 1:13:36.160
<v Speaker 1>about that litigation and the issue in that horrible situation

1:13:36.280 --> 1:13:38.639
<v Speaker 1>going back a couple of weeks where those u STE

1:13:39.000 --> 1:13:40.880
<v Speaker 1>students or are at a party or get together of

1:13:40.920 --> 1:13:43.240
<v Speaker 1>some sort out on the balcony. It's supposed to be

1:13:43.240 --> 1:13:45.360
<v Speaker 1>able to hold ten people, and apparently that's how many

1:13:45.400 --> 1:13:48.519
<v Speaker 1>actually were injured as a part of the collapsing of

1:13:48.560 --> 1:13:50.439
<v Speaker 1>that balcony, which was on the I think the second

1:13:50.439 --> 1:13:54.639
<v Speaker 1>floor or third technically above like garage area or parking area,

1:13:55.800 --> 1:13:59.840
<v Speaker 1>which is a pretty unnerving scenario. And I can't tell

1:13:59.840 --> 1:14:03.280
<v Speaker 1>you how many parties I've been to when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, as a student, subsequently even as a young adult,

1:14:07.080 --> 1:14:09.439
<v Speaker 1>which I'm not a young one anymore, and are accused

1:14:09.479 --> 1:14:13.080
<v Speaker 1>of acting like a child more than once. But the

1:14:13.280 --> 1:14:16.680
<v Speaker 1>just scene I remember walking into parties and having to

1:14:16.760 --> 1:14:19.439
<v Speaker 1>get together. You grab one of those nice red cups

1:14:19.439 --> 1:14:22.360
<v Speaker 1>and you hit the keg or whatever, cocktails or flowing,

1:14:22.880 --> 1:14:25.200
<v Speaker 1>and people are out and about and then you see

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<v Speaker 1>on the patio and it's like filled with tons of people,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just I can tell you on more than

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<v Speaker 1>one occasion, I was like, oh, hell no, I'm not

1:14:33.560 --> 1:14:35.800
<v Speaker 1>getting out there to visit and see people on that

1:14:35.960 --> 1:14:39.920
<v Speaker 1>balcony because it's just the fear of them collapsing. And

1:14:39.960 --> 1:14:42.640
<v Speaker 1>then your story like this too, and they have to

1:14:42.640 --> 1:14:45.400
<v Speaker 1>go through the litigation process and everything as a part

1:14:45.400 --> 1:14:47.640
<v Speaker 1>of it. But they are supposed to be able to

1:14:47.760 --> 1:14:51.600
<v Speaker 1>hold up to ten people and be supported with that,

1:14:51.720 --> 1:14:54.599
<v Speaker 1>and those structures are supposed to be inspected however so often,

1:14:55.040 --> 1:14:57.280
<v Speaker 1>and you got to wonder, and these are things that'll

1:14:57.320 --> 1:15:00.479
<v Speaker 1>come out and discovery and argument in this case is

1:15:00.520 --> 1:15:04.240
<v Speaker 1>that you know when was it inspected or did they

1:15:04.240 --> 1:15:06.559
<v Speaker 1>have more than ten people on it? Was it already

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things that they were made aware of

1:15:08.479 --> 1:15:12.080
<v Speaker 1>that they should not over tax the balcony. Was that

1:15:12.160 --> 1:15:14.400
<v Speaker 1>not something that had been discussed with the tenants or

1:15:14.439 --> 1:15:16.920
<v Speaker 1>their guests, etc. And so forth. I mean, there's a

1:15:16.920 --> 1:15:20.200
<v Speaker 1>lot to it, and we're talking about the severe trauma physically,

1:15:20.320 --> 1:15:22.960
<v Speaker 1>emotionally and everything else. I'm not going to litigate it here.

1:15:23.000 --> 1:15:24.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm not an attorney. I'm not going to try to

1:15:24.320 --> 1:15:26.960
<v Speaker 1>play one on the radio, that's for sure. But just

1:15:27.160 --> 1:15:30.479
<v Speaker 1>an unnerving nightmare scenario. And a good friend of mine

1:15:30.520 --> 1:15:33.600
<v Speaker 1>who was in a band called the Oxymorons when I

1:15:33.720 --> 1:15:39.760
<v Speaker 1>was coming up, Ben Schulker was his name. He was

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<v Speaker 1>on a balcony. It was not overcrowded, but as I understand,

1:15:43.200 --> 1:15:45.000
<v Speaker 1>it was like leaning back up as a lot of

1:15:45.000 --> 1:15:47.080
<v Speaker 1>people will do, put up your feet or whatever else,

1:15:47.120 --> 1:15:50.200
<v Speaker 1>and apparently lost his this is years ago now, and

1:15:50.240 --> 1:15:53.639
<v Speaker 1>then fell off of this balcony and lost his life.

1:15:54.880 --> 1:15:57.320
<v Speaker 1>And that still shakes me thinking about it. It was

1:15:57.400 --> 1:16:01.240
<v Speaker 1>a buddy of mine, and it just resonates even more

1:16:01.280 --> 1:16:03.200
<v Speaker 1>you see a story like this, or you know, even

1:16:03.240 --> 1:16:05.479
<v Speaker 1>at that time, going around to parties, and I just

1:16:05.520 --> 1:16:07.280
<v Speaker 1>sort of just like you, I don't need to be

1:16:07.320 --> 1:16:09.080
<v Speaker 1>on that backhony. I just do not need to be

1:16:09.120 --> 1:16:12.080
<v Speaker 1>on that patio or that type of situation. Five point

1:16:12.160 --> 1:16:14.639
<v Speaker 1>three seven four nine seven eight hundred the big one,

1:16:14.680 --> 1:16:19.439
<v Speaker 1>Glad you're along. Earlier basketball bear Cats at home fifth

1:16:19.439 --> 1:16:22.639
<v Speaker 1>third Arena kicked off the new season ninety four sixty three.

1:16:22.680 --> 1:16:26.760
<v Speaker 1>They sent to Western Carolina's Catamounts back home losers. A

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<v Speaker 1>big win for West Miller's bear Cats to start off

1:16:29.640 --> 1:16:34.679
<v Speaker 1>the season. Musketeers at home at sentas sixty six sixty two,

1:16:34.800 --> 1:16:38.320
<v Speaker 1>they send U Marist Red Fox's home losers. You see,

1:16:38.320 --> 1:16:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Claremont visited Northern Kentucky University's Norse at Truest Arena and

1:16:43.120 --> 1:16:46.320
<v Speaker 1>got pounded and sent home back up seventy one, shaking

1:16:46.400 --> 1:16:49.439
<v Speaker 1>their heads, probably wondering what happened to us, Not quite

1:16:49.479 --> 1:16:52.760
<v Speaker 1>doubled up, but close one twenty six to sixty nine.

1:16:52.760 --> 1:16:56.400
<v Speaker 1>And if I'm not mistaken, that is the most scoring

1:16:56.439 --> 1:16:58.880
<v Speaker 1>that the Norse have ever done, one hundred and twenty

1:16:58.880 --> 1:17:00.880
<v Speaker 1>six to sixty nine. That's a big win there up

1:17:00.880 --> 1:17:04.759
<v Speaker 1>at ud Arena Downtown Dayton, just off seventy five eighty

1:17:04.800 --> 1:17:08.960
<v Speaker 1>eight forty eight. The Flyers handle Canisius's Golden Griffins so

1:17:09.040 --> 1:17:11.920
<v Speaker 1>fairly easily. Right State Raiders at the Nutter Center just

1:17:11.920 --> 1:17:15.280
<v Speaker 1>about fifteen minutes from there, and Fairborn off of six

1:17:15.400 --> 1:17:17.840
<v Speaker 1>seventy five where I went to school at Right State

1:17:18.160 --> 1:17:20.320
<v Speaker 1>as well as Lee Mallen and Santa Collins too. I

1:17:20.320 --> 1:17:25.960
<v Speaker 1>think Wright State eighty six, Franklin's Grizzlies thirty six, So

1:17:26.120 --> 1:17:30.320
<v Speaker 1>a win for all those teams. You see Xavier Nku

1:17:30.560 --> 1:17:34.320
<v Speaker 1>the Flyers at Dayton and Wright State all getting wus tonight.

1:17:34.640 --> 1:17:40.760
<v Speaker 1>So there is that I'm curious, and I figure, why

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<v Speaker 1>not ask this question here and driving around or whatever else?

1:17:44.439 --> 1:17:48.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, we got a government shutdown that's happening. We

1:17:48.240 --> 1:17:52.360
<v Speaker 1>got people with their snap benefits, food, a lot of seniors,

1:17:52.360 --> 1:17:56.280
<v Speaker 1>some veterans, kids, their moms, single parents sometimes with a

1:17:56.320 --> 1:17:58.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of working families that are food and secure, that

1:17:59.000 --> 1:18:03.720
<v Speaker 1>spend time working and trying to handle their business. This

1:18:03.800 --> 1:18:08.360
<v Speaker 1>is It's been some years ago, and I regularly have

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<v Speaker 1>on Kurt Riber from the Free Store Food Bank because

1:18:11.080 --> 1:18:14.639
<v Speaker 1>I desperately believe in trying to help out our neighbors.

1:18:14.680 --> 1:18:17.360
<v Speaker 1>And it's a very giving and loving community here in

1:18:17.400 --> 1:18:20.000
<v Speaker 1>the tri State, and they do incredible work, like ninety

1:18:20.000 --> 1:18:23.120
<v Speaker 1>three ninety four percent of all proceeds that are given

1:18:23.160 --> 1:18:25.599
<v Speaker 1>to the Free Store Food Bank go right through them

1:18:25.680 --> 1:18:28.160
<v Speaker 1>and go directly to the people with food in hand,

1:18:28.479 --> 1:18:30.960
<v Speaker 1>which is a pretty amazing thing. And they get a

1:18:31.000 --> 1:18:34.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of corporate support as well. But the number of

1:18:34.400 --> 1:18:40.360
<v Speaker 1>people that are dealing with food issues in this government shutdown,

1:18:40.640 --> 1:18:43.680
<v Speaker 1>not including but the food bank's getting an uptick in

1:18:44.600 --> 1:18:48.599
<v Speaker 1>military families as well because of their pay situation. Don't

1:18:48.640 --> 1:18:51.440
<v Speaker 1>know about the air traffic controllers and what they're navigating

1:18:51.479 --> 1:18:54.400
<v Speaker 1>literally and figuratively as they're supposed to be going back

1:18:54.439 --> 1:18:58.360
<v Speaker 1>to work on a regular basis without getting paid. But

1:18:58.479 --> 1:19:04.360
<v Speaker 1>the statistics of those that are food insecure and regularly

1:19:04.560 --> 1:19:09.240
<v Speaker 1>getting food aid in these United States is just about

1:19:09.280 --> 1:19:16.560
<v Speaker 1>twelve percent of the US population, which is just absolutely amazing.

1:19:18.520 --> 1:19:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Like forty one million Americans regularly not in extraordinary situations

1:19:24.479 --> 1:19:29.320
<v Speaker 1>because of the shutdown, but regularly getting food assistance SNAP

1:19:29.479 --> 1:19:33.240
<v Speaker 1>or food card, food stamps, whatever. It is forty one

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<v Speaker 1>million out of some three if in fact you believe

1:19:36.520 --> 1:19:38.719
<v Speaker 1>the numbers of about three hundred and thirty million Americans,

1:19:38.720 --> 1:19:43.240
<v Speaker 1>that puts US just about a twelve percent of Americans

1:19:43.280 --> 1:19:45.880
<v Speaker 1>needing help to get food on their table regularly, to

1:19:45.920 --> 1:19:48.120
<v Speaker 1>make sure their kids have a full belly so they

1:19:48.120 --> 1:19:51.080
<v Speaker 1>can go to school ready to learn and not have

1:19:51.160 --> 1:19:52.800
<v Speaker 1>to worry about if they're going to have lunch or

1:19:52.800 --> 1:19:55.559
<v Speaker 1>dinner or breakfast the next day or whatever else. That

1:19:55.720 --> 1:20:03.960
<v Speaker 1>is just absolutely sad, miserable at a time, And I

1:20:04.000 --> 1:20:05.640
<v Speaker 1>know this will piss a lot of people off, and

1:20:05.800 --> 1:20:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I frankly don't care. But at a time, so many

1:20:08.880 --> 1:20:12.160
<v Speaker 1>people we talk about making America great again and the

1:20:12.200 --> 1:20:16.240
<v Speaker 1>effort to make America healthy again, with people looking at

1:20:16.560 --> 1:20:21.000
<v Speaker 1>buying into the healthcare exchanges, working people sometimes with two

1:20:21.080 --> 1:20:24.200
<v Speaker 1>and three jobs, part time jobs, or low income jobs,

1:20:24.240 --> 1:20:27.000
<v Speaker 1>whatever else, trying to take care of kids and everything else,

1:20:28.479 --> 1:20:31.439
<v Speaker 1>and still buying through the exchange, getting some type of

1:20:31.800 --> 1:20:35.640
<v Speaker 1>help with supplementing the actual cost a tax credit or

1:20:35.640 --> 1:20:41.040
<v Speaker 1>otherwise paid towards those insurance payments. Doesn't seem to me

1:20:41.160 --> 1:20:43.839
<v Speaker 1>that there's a whole lot of healthy or great stuff

1:20:43.920 --> 1:20:48.200
<v Speaker 1>going on with hungry and people that can't get insurance

1:20:48.680 --> 1:20:52.040
<v Speaker 1>with the prices going up right now. Meanwhile, lawmakers are

1:20:52.040 --> 1:20:56.519
<v Speaker 1>sitting on their ass doing much of what nothing, not

1:20:56.600 --> 1:20:59.720
<v Speaker 1>wanting to vote on it or not really seriously debating it,

1:21:00.000 --> 1:21:03.360
<v Speaker 1>and to talk about somebody not wanting to lose this

1:21:03.560 --> 1:21:07.439
<v Speaker 1>debate or argument or whatever else. Their job in Washington

1:21:07.600 --> 1:21:11.000
<v Speaker 1>is one thing is working for we the people. And

1:21:11.040 --> 1:21:14.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm all about lower taxes. I'm all about avoiding wasting

1:21:15.040 --> 1:21:18.720
<v Speaker 1>expenses and government dollars and all the other stuff that

1:21:18.760 --> 1:21:23.599
<v Speaker 1>goes with it. Forty one million Americans on a regular

1:21:23.680 --> 1:21:27.960
<v Speaker 1>basis need help getting food, and it's getting shut down

1:21:28.120 --> 1:21:30.479
<v Speaker 1>or at least in part while they figure out something

1:21:30.520 --> 1:21:33.640
<v Speaker 1>for how long this government has been shut down. And

1:21:33.680 --> 1:21:36.400
<v Speaker 1>the shutdown wouldn't even be shut down if it wasn't

1:21:36.439 --> 1:21:38.719
<v Speaker 1>for the fact that they were already yanking away healthcare

1:21:39.320 --> 1:21:44.120
<v Speaker 1>and already yanking away money for medical care stuff. And

1:21:44.200 --> 1:21:46.479
<v Speaker 1>here's the other thing that I find that it is

1:21:46.520 --> 1:21:49.800
<v Speaker 1>absolutely amazing with all the talk about our cities and

1:21:49.840 --> 1:21:52.560
<v Speaker 1>how unsafe they are and a mayor's race in Cincinnati

1:21:52.600 --> 1:21:56.479
<v Speaker 1>where you got a question, is the police policy and

1:21:56.520 --> 1:21:59.280
<v Speaker 1>the way they go about their business doing it the

1:21:59.320 --> 1:22:01.400
<v Speaker 1>right way with the unfound across the street where there

1:22:01.400 --> 1:22:04.960
<v Speaker 1>was a shooting this weekend, and that is it the police,

1:22:05.080 --> 1:22:07.240
<v Speaker 1>is it the government and how the city is handling it,

1:22:07.280 --> 1:22:09.559
<v Speaker 1>whether it's the city manager or the mayor, and whatever

1:22:09.600 --> 1:22:13.120
<v Speaker 1>policy is it, the judges, the judiciary, and how they

1:22:13.400 --> 1:22:16.960
<v Speaker 1>penalize those handful of people that are regular repeat offenders

1:22:17.000 --> 1:22:19.400
<v Speaker 1>out there on these streets, whether it's young kids, minor

1:22:19.520 --> 1:22:22.519
<v Speaker 1>children with guns or grown adult people who should sure

1:22:22.560 --> 1:22:25.040
<v Speaker 1>as hell know better to not be quick with the

1:22:25.040 --> 1:22:28.719
<v Speaker 1>gun to decide to solve their problems, like it's somehow

1:22:28.760 --> 1:22:32.880
<v Speaker 1>the Old West or some other crap like that. In

1:22:32.920 --> 1:22:37.320
<v Speaker 1>this situation, the federal government in city after city has

1:22:37.479 --> 1:22:40.599
<v Speaker 1>polled federal dollars that were supposed to go to policing

1:22:41.840 --> 1:22:44.639
<v Speaker 1>to help hire more cops, to help give them more

1:22:44.680 --> 1:22:48.000
<v Speaker 1>tools to do the job, and the federal government talks

1:22:48.040 --> 1:22:51.680
<v Speaker 1>about needing more police and bringing in National Guard or

1:22:51.720 --> 1:22:55.040
<v Speaker 1>whatever else. I'm just gonna say, when you're pulling money

1:22:55.080 --> 1:22:59.759
<v Speaker 1>away from city and state governments that handles policing issues

1:23:00.080 --> 1:23:02.479
<v Speaker 1>and monies that were given to them grants for you know,

1:23:02.520 --> 1:23:06.600
<v Speaker 1>whether it's a supplies and more cruisers or more deputies

1:23:06.920 --> 1:23:10.760
<v Speaker 1>or city police officers or whatever else, I think there's

1:23:10.760 --> 1:23:13.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot of double talk and a lot of jive

1:23:14.320 --> 1:23:16.600
<v Speaker 1>that's been going on in the midst of all the

1:23:16.600 --> 1:23:21.040
<v Speaker 1>stuff that's happening, or maybe I'm wrong five point three

1:23:21.080 --> 1:23:23.360
<v Speaker 1>seven four nine seven eight hundred, the big one. You

1:23:23.360 --> 1:23:26.840
<v Speaker 1>can talk back the iHeartRadio app. But it is bewildering.

1:23:27.680 --> 1:23:31.439
<v Speaker 1>Forty one million Americans in the best of times needing

1:23:31.479 --> 1:23:35.280
<v Speaker 1>help with food, with a government shutdown, and workers in

1:23:35.280 --> 1:23:38.120
<v Speaker 1>the federal government who work hard for us. They're citizens,

1:23:38.120 --> 1:23:43.360
<v Speaker 1>they're neighbors of ours, not getting paid in some cases,

1:23:43.560 --> 1:23:47.160
<v Speaker 1>expected still to show up to work, and wondering if

1:23:47.160 --> 1:23:49.200
<v Speaker 1>they're going to have the ability to put food on

1:23:49.240 --> 1:23:52.160
<v Speaker 1>the table for their kids to go to school. And

1:23:52.200 --> 1:23:56.960
<v Speaker 1>they're worried about winning or losing. Do the work in

1:23:57.080 --> 1:24:03.080
<v Speaker 1>DC and stop talking so much crap. It's it is

1:24:03.120 --> 1:24:07.440
<v Speaker 1>amazing to me. And clearly stuff in downtown Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love Cincinnati, Uh I do. I love the

1:24:10.920 --> 1:24:14.960
<v Speaker 1>tri State in the Miami Valley and uh I just

1:24:16.840 --> 1:24:18.000
<v Speaker 1>the police need to do better.

1:24:18.360 --> 1:24:18.519
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

1:24:18.600 --> 1:24:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Clearly city government needs to do better, and the citizen

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<v Speaker 1>really needs to also do better in all of this.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, new mayor, old mayor, same mayor. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, however many council members need to be replaced.

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<v Speaker 1>You tell me. I hear from police who tell me

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't think the courts are doing their job

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<v Speaker 1>and then turning people back on the street. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of finger pointing, but the cops need to do

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<v Speaker 1>their part, the courts and prosecutors need to do theirs,

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<v Speaker 1>and parents need to do a better job making sure

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<v Speaker 1>they don't make a default, a faulty piece of crap

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<v Speaker 1>product that's not ready to go to school and learn

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<v Speaker 1>and not out on the streets after hours somehow with

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<v Speaker 1>firearms in their hand, thinking it's easier to boost cars,

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<v Speaker 1>steal stuff, sell weed or whatever else that's at there?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I crazy? Let's get Will Will's first here before

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<v Speaker 1>the break was Stirling on seven hundredule lw Will. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think?

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<v Speaker 7>I just want to say that my wife works are

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<v Speaker 7>so security at downtown office and she's working every day

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<v Speaker 7>not getting paid, and it sucks thirty five days not

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<v Speaker 7>getting paid.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do they tell them when they're on the

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<v Speaker 1>job about that? I mean that they still have to

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<v Speaker 1>show up, because I've talked to a few people in

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<v Speaker 1>different types of jobs and they basically say, we're sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>but you either show up or you may not have

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<v Speaker 1>a job. Is that what she's heard?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, she has to go in, she has to go in.

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<v Speaker 7>She has to work, do the office, not from home.

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<v Speaker 7>There's no telework anymore. She has to give a report

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<v Speaker 7>to the office, work regular work load, do all the

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<v Speaker 7>normal things that she does day to day. And we

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<v Speaker 7>just haven't gotten a page. She got a half a

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<v Speaker 7>paycheck three weeks ago, no paycheck last week, and no

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<v Speaker 7>paycheck coming up. This crateic.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I'm guessing you must work or it's gonna I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a really tough situation to be in when you're

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<v Speaker 1>not getting money or knowing how much you're gonna get of.

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<v Speaker 7>Any Yes, I do work. We have a emergency fund.

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<v Speaker 7>It's about a six month emergency fund. We're a little

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<v Speaker 7>over a month in.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing. Most people don't even have a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars in an emergency fund, let alone six months.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys were thinking ahead like squirrels, putting those nuts

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<v Speaker 1>away before winter gets here. That's a smart way to

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<v Speaker 1>do it, man, And going to be in a position

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. What's the morale that she's talked about

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<v Speaker 1>with her co workers there. I'm curious.

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<v Speaker 7>It's brutal. They don't want to I mean, they're there

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<v Speaker 7>to help everybody that haunts a scaredy, So I mean

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<v Speaker 7>they're not. They don't want to leave the people that

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<v Speaker 7>they have appointments with high and dry. But at the

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<v Speaker 7>same time, they're working every day, all day long, doing

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<v Speaker 7>the same thing and not getting paid.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's it's rough.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, i'd say it is. I'm sorry you're having to

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<v Speaker 1>go through that and so many other people. It's probably

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<v Speaker 1>the nicest way to put it. I've tried to keep

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<v Speaker 1>it clean in the frustration that I have, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still getting paid when I show up, So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, that's a whole other story. We'll see if

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<v Speaker 1>my card key were the next time.

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<v Speaker 3>I try. I try not to make a sound bad

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<v Speaker 3>or mean.

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<v Speaker 7>But they just passed the SNAP stuff paying partially. They've

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<v Speaker 7>just approved the partially pay all the SNAP benefits. Why

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<v Speaker 7>can't we approve the least pay is a federal workers at.

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<v Speaker 4>Least yeah, for their salary.

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<v Speaker 1>No kedding, because I mean, here's the thing. I've talked

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<v Speaker 1>to a few people. There's an older couple across the

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<v Speaker 1>street from me. They were wondering about their social security

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<v Speaker 1>issues aside from that, which I don't know much about.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, there are people that are working that

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<v Speaker 1>are now having to figure out how they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get food because they may not have that emergency fund

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<v Speaker 1>like you have. They got to show up to work.

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<v Speaker 1>But then what do they have to do go to

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<v Speaker 1>the food I mean, that's that's that's or the church

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. I mean, that's a really brutal

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<v Speaker 1>place to be right now. And the lawmakers have been

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<v Speaker 1>ware doing what's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>To be honest with you, my wife's actually losing.

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<v Speaker 7>Money because she has to go downtown and pay the

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<v Speaker 7>part because they don't they don't offer parking plans down there.

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<v Speaker 7>She has put pay the park and gas and wear

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<v Speaker 7>and tear on the vehicle and not get paid.

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<v Speaker 1>All the other expense.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody I talked.

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<v Speaker 7>To, they're like, you know, she'll get back pay. That's fine,

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<v Speaker 7>and great bay comes in if it.

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<v Speaker 3>Comes in right.

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<v Speaker 1>And tell your creditors that if you've got a bill

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<v Speaker 1>that's getting ten days past to thirty days past to

1:28:40.280 --> 1:28:42.400
<v Speaker 1>or whatever else, that's brutal. Really well, I'm sorry you're

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<v Speaker 1>navigating that. I'm glad that your wife is there doing

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<v Speaker 1>the job and those others and hats off to them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I appreciate you picking up the phone to share.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully they'll get their jobs done and figure a way

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<v Speaker 1>to solve this here in the center than later.

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<v Speaker 3>Brother, hopefully.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly, Thanks Charlie, curiously, thank you, appreciate you listening. Quick

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<v Speaker 1>Break will come back. I'm not done yet, although Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Gordon warming it up and gunning it, he's ready to

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<v Speaker 1>roll with atn after midnight here on the Big One

1:29:04.800 --> 1:29:07.959
<v Speaker 1>on a night where the basketball bear Cats handle Western Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>They got their first win of the season was Miller's

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<v Speaker 1>guys at ninety four to sixty three, A Xavier wins

1:29:13.560 --> 1:29:16.559
<v Speaker 1>and Nku wins and the Dayton Flyers winning Right State wins.

1:29:16.720 --> 1:29:20.280
<v Speaker 1>And over the weekend the Bengals scored what forty two

1:29:20.320 --> 1:29:23.040
<v Speaker 1>and still wasn't good enough, and the week ago thirty

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<v Speaker 1>eight not good enough. I'm not saying it's the defense's problem,

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<v Speaker 1>but unbelievable. It's sterling just about done. Leading up to,

1:29:29.960 --> 1:29:33.519
<v Speaker 1>of course, Kevin Gordon in America's Trucking Network rolling after midnight,

1:29:34.080 --> 1:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Joe Waddell producing, He's telling me about his fantasy team

1:29:37.200 --> 1:29:40.559
<v Speaker 1>and he got to win barely, and he's like the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 1>They score all the points in the world, but the

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<v Speaker 1>defense giving it up like nobody's business too. I shouldn't lap,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's sort of the way. It is a great

1:29:49.280 --> 1:29:52.680
<v Speaker 1>conversation and great memory shared. I got to thank Lance McCallister,

1:29:52.800 --> 1:29:55.080
<v Speaker 1>making time sports talk host here at the Big One,

1:29:55.200 --> 1:29:58.920
<v Speaker 1>and George Vogel, former sports director WLWT Channel five Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Famer Greater Cincinnat a Hall of journalism, giving us some

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<v Speaker 1>insights perspective in the late great Bob Trumpy, the godfather

1:30:06.800 --> 1:30:09.879
<v Speaker 1>sports talk, eighty years old, passed away over the weekend

1:30:10.160 --> 1:30:14.000
<v Speaker 1>started all right here at seven hundred WLW. We lost him.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just a really incredible talent on the field

1:30:17.560 --> 1:30:22.160
<v Speaker 1>as an original football Bengal, as a broadcaster, and just

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<v Speaker 1>very kind just in general. So I appreciate those guys

1:30:25.680 --> 1:30:29.160
<v Speaker 1>making an opportunity to join us and share their perspective

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<v Speaker 1>and some good words about Bob Trumpy. Hart goes out

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<v Speaker 1>to his family. Thank you to Joe Waddell, Gary Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Walker also joined us. He'll be back again tomorrow night

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll talk to you on Friday.

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<v Speaker 3>Right here.

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<v Speaker 1>Have yourself a good one. Go vote if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to tomorrow. Should listen, even if thirty percent of the

1:30:45.040 --> 1:30:48.120
<v Speaker 1>possible voters out there that are eligible hit the ballot

1:30:48.120 --> 1:30:51.519
<v Speaker 1>box tomorrow, which they won't. That's thirty They expect twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five percent including early voting and mail in, so it

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<v Speaker 1>should be easy to get in and get out to

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<v Speaker 1>make your choices when it comes to the vote if

1:30:59.439 --> 1:31:01.800
<v Speaker 1>you choose to to vote tomorrow Election Day, and will

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<v Speaker 1>have full on results and information and news as always,

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<v Speaker 1>right here, all day long and all night here on

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<v Speaker 1>the home of the Reds, the Bengals, the Bearcats, the Musketeers,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Hood. Day here seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati,