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Speaker 1: in after a UC basketball bear Cat win ninety four

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Speaker 1: Fifth third arena in here on seven hundred wl W

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Speaker 1: Gary Jeff Walker, who's normally here at this time, going

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Speaker 1: Also a good news for NKU fans. The Norse nearly

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Speaker 1: doubled up. This is insane. I think it's the most

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Speaker 1: they've ever scored in a game of hoops. One twenty

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Speaker 1: six sixty nine winners over UC Claremont, and that was

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Speaker 1: the truest arena. So the Cougars of Claremont U see

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Speaker 1: to Northern Kentucky. The marist Red Foxes were at Sintas

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Speaker 1: taking on the Musketeers, Xavier handling them sixty six sixty

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Speaker 1: the Dayton Flyers all over Canisius's Golden Griffins you deer

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Speaker 1: and then of course yesterday there was the devastating, heartbreaking

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Speaker 1: just debilitating Otherwise, the Bengals with a tough loss, and

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Speaker 1: grew up listening to seven hundred WLW who were Bengals fans.

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Speaker 1: Bob Trumpy some would call him the godfather of sports

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Speaker 1: and apparently surrounded by family. We will talk to Lance

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Speaker 1: McCallister just after ten o'clock about Bob, as well as

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Speaker 1: George Vogel, former sports director at Channel five WLWT, going

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Speaker 1: to join us about ten thirty five to talk about

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Speaker 1: Bob Trumpy, huge shoes and voice behind the microphone, just

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Speaker 1: a good guy. I'll let these guys tell the story

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Speaker 1: because they knew him, they worked around him, aside from

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Speaker 1: me just growing up listening and then once I came

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Speaker 1: And you know, it's one of these things that you

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Speaker 1: I'm not even sure. I had probably started to do

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Speaker 1: out to his Family's had just a brilliant life, a

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Speaker 1: So that'll be good coming up in just a little

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Speaker 1: those who study these things. I'm wondering, how engaged and

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Speaker 1: We know that there were new lines drawn. As far

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Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, what happens in Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: And if you're like me, they look at my signature

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Speaker 2: you're talking about that adjustment period of I mean, to me,

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Speaker 2: I have no qualm saying I idolized Bob Trumpy. I mean,

431
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Speaker 2: he was the godfather of sports talk. He's the reason

432
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Speaker 2: sports talk was created in this town. And I've never

433
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Speaker 2: heard somebody I don't think I ever will who had

434
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Speaker 2: such a commanding presence on the radio, the voice and

435
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Speaker 2: just the gravitas of he just commanded you listen. When

436
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 2: you tuned it in and you heard it, it was captivating,

437
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: you wanted to keep listening, whether you agreed or disagreed.

438
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Speaker 1: He just made you listen.

439
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Speaker 2: And I was joking today with Dave Lapham, and I've

440
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: been asked so many stories about Trumpey, and I said,

441
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Speaker 2: the beauty of Trump he was there was his opinion,

442
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 2: and then there was your opinion, which was wrong.

443
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Speaker 1: That's right, It's just the way it was.

444
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Speaker 3: He was always right.

445
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 2: He held firm to his beliefs and his convictions, and

446
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Speaker 2: there was no changing his mind. And he just dug

447
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 2: in and he was stubborn, and we went round and

448
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 2: round at times. We wanted to strangle each other at times.

449
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Speaker 2: But man, looking back on those shows, I mean sitting

450
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Speaker 2: at a then a Buffalo Wild Wings on a Friday

451
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Speaker 2: afternoon doing a three hour Bengals pep rally with Bob Trumpy,

452
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Speaker 2: I'm like, who would have thought, I mean, this is

453
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Speaker 2: actually happening. I'm doing shows with the godfather of sports dog.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty amazing thing. Talking to Lance McCallister, if

455
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Speaker 1: he hadn't already figured it out, to the sports talk

456
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Speaker 1: host talking about the late great Bob Trump, He's godfather

457
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Speaker 1: of sports talk of a word of his passing over

458
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Speaker 1: the weekend, His career was amazing. I was too little

459
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Speaker 1: and not even here when the Bengals started, and then

460
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Speaker 1: you know, he spent a dec day as a Bengal

461
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Speaker 1: and then he did sports talk and then he went

462
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Speaker 1: on in the midst of all that ended up doing

463
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Speaker 1: you know, football games for NBC called multiple Super Bowls,

464
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Speaker 1: did Olympic games as well as golf like Ryder Cup stuff,

465
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Speaker 1: and you do have done a variety of things. But

466
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Speaker 1: what an amazing story of him coming out of Utah

467
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Speaker 1: as a ute to Cincinnati as a Bengal to walk

468
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Speaker 1: through the halls of seven hundred WLW and then advance

469
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Speaker 1: to that other level as well to do so many

470
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Speaker 1: other things. That's a spectacular credit to him, his capabilities

471
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Speaker 1: in the ability just to convey a story and paint

472
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Speaker 1: a picture because he did it on radio and TV.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the the versatility, I mean, the number of different

474
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Speaker 2: sports he did for NBC. He wasn't just your stereotypical

475
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Speaker 2: job who was just going to do a football game.

476
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Speaker 2: I mean they gave him plumb assignments as you mentioned,

477
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Speaker 2: the Olympics and Ryder Cup and other things.

478
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Speaker 3: And it's what you know.

479
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Speaker 2: I always marveled and in that era of Bob Trumpy

480
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Speaker 2: on NBC, it was Bob Costas in the studio and

481
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Speaker 2: I always looked at those two from their versatility and said,

482
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Speaker 2: I want to do what they do? How do they

483
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Speaker 2: do so many different things? Well, yes, they weren't one

484
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Speaker 2: trick ponies. It was the ability to do so many

485
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Speaker 2: different things that I always marveled about, and and Sterling,

486
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Speaker 2: I was always amazed by the fact. And I'll have

487
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Speaker 2: a little bit of this out of order or maybe

488
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Speaker 2: out of place, but you know, he told me when

489
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Speaker 2: he first he first heard Bill Russell doing sports talk

490
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Speaker 2: radio out in San Francisco, the former Celtic legend was

491
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Speaker 2: doing a sports talk radio show, and Trump he heard

492
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Speaker 2: him and thought, well, I could do that. What if

493
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Speaker 2: I did it here? And when he first presented it,

494
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Speaker 2: it was rejected here like, now we're we're not going

495
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Speaker 2: to do a sports talk show every night. And Trump

496
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Speaker 2: went out and then sold it and found people who

497
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Speaker 2: would buy time on it. It initially started on what was

498
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Speaker 2: w wcky, still w cky, and then on to seven

499
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Speaker 2: hundred WLW. But it was he was like the pioneer

500
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Speaker 2: from that standpoint. All Right, you don't think it could

501
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: be done, I'll show you it can be done. And

502
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Speaker 2: it's been done ever since.

503
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Speaker 1: It's a pretty amazing thing. When you would talk to

504
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Speaker 1: him off the air. I'm kind of curious because I

505
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Speaker 1: would only pass in the hallway when we were in

506
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Speaker 1: Mount Adams and you know at that point, I'm you know,

507
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Speaker 1: an FM music I I've got my long hair. I

508
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Speaker 1: maybe had done a talk show here at that point,

509
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Speaker 1: maybe not even yet initially. And he was always very polite,

510
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: very friendly, but he was always headed to the studio

511
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: or in and out to do something client related, whatever,

512
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: just popping in and people would gravitate towards him. And

513
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Speaker 1: I was always, I want to say intimidated, but probably

514
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Speaker 1: a little intimidated, and I didn't want to be annoying,

515
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: but interacting with him and socializing with him and becoming

516
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Speaker 1: someone who's working directly with him. What was that like?

517
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Speaker 1: You touched on it a little bit, but it's an

518
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Speaker 1: amazing thing to see someone who's that comfortable, that confident,

519
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Speaker 1: that sperience to sort of do it just so well.

520
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Speaker 2: And he would he would constantly ride me as someone

521
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Speaker 2: who and this was part of his bit of someone

522
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 2: who never played the game. And we would get into

523
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 2: conversations topics for the show or off air, and it

524
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 2: would always come back to whatever. When I really push

525
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 2: his buttons to the point where he just lose all patients,

526
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: he just look at me and I keep describing this story.

527
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 2: He would peer over those glasses on his nose and

528
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Speaker 2: through the smoke of his chain smoking, because boy did

529
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Speaker 2: he smoke back then.

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Speaker 1: And he would look at him.

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Speaker 2: And just say, with that deep voice, you have clearly

532
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Speaker 2: never played the game. It would just I get the

533
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: biggest kick out of that because that was his go

534
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Speaker 2: to line. And you know, I would always try to

535
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Speaker 2: punch his button by saying something like especially on a

536
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: daylight today, where I would I would be on with him.

537
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Speaker 2: I would say, you know, the Bengals need to make

538
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: a statement. They need to move on from saying they

539
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: need to fire somebody, they need to make a trade,

540
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: they need to make a statement. And trump you with

541
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Speaker 2: that big booming voice just laugh and say statements. You

542
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: and your statements. You always want to make statements. And

543
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: that just got him so worked up. But I love

544
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: doing that. That's tremendous, it really is.

545
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Speaker 1: Lance. I appreciate you making time, and I know that

546
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Speaker 1: you're up early, you do stuff all day. You got

547
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: Bengal stuff on a Monday and everything. So I appreciate

548
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: you sharing that. And it's got to be hard when

549
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: you come across. I mean, I've lost people close, some

550
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 1: that I've worked with and so forth, and it's happening

551
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Speaker 1: more regularly for those people that were a generation maybe

552
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: ahead of us, or maybe a little more than that.

553
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: So it's sometimes difficult to talk about them. So I

554
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: appreciate you, you being willing to do it. You didn't

555
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: have to do it. Anything else that I have not

556
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: asked that you think is relevant talking Bob Trumpy or

557
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: even for instance, about these Bengals and what you think

558
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: that conversation with him would be like with the Bengal today.

559
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Speaker 2: Well, I would the thing I think is important to

560
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Speaker 2: And I've told this story a lot, and I will

561
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: always tell this story because I think it defines our

562
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: relationship with it that I had with Trumpy, and he

563
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: could be rough and gruff and that big, deep voice

564
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 2: and all that, and yet I will always maintain the

565
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Speaker 2: defining moment of our relationship came about twenty two years

566
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Speaker 2: ago when our son Casey was diagnosed with leukemia and

567
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Speaker 2: Bob Trumpy was the first person that called me and

568
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: he offered me whatever we needed. He said, however, I

569
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Speaker 2: can help and said if you need a bone marrow

570
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: donor I want to be your guy, and I will.

571
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Speaker 2: I I get chills when I tell that story every

572
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Speaker 2: time because and eventually we had a donor through the

573
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Speaker 2: National Bone Marrow Donor Program. But for all of our

574
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Speaker 2: battles and a relationship ship that went back to when

575
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Speaker 2: I was, you know, twelve, thirteen fourteen, calling him to

576
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Speaker 2: an adult and a father and somebody who done shows

577
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 2: with him, that was that will always be Bob Trumpy

578
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: to me. He's one of a kind because of what

579
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Speaker 2: he did as a pioneer in the industry. But he's

580
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: one of a kind to me because he was the

581
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Speaker 2: first person that called us and was willing to offer

582
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Speaker 2: all of that to help our family and help our son.

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Speaker 1: A great human being is what it boils down to. Yeah,

584
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Speaker 1: and that's the most important thing there is. So yeah,

585
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: that's pretty tremendous. I feel that too, Lance, Thank you.

586
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and I hope all is well with

587
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Speaker 1: the family. Mcouister. I know it's late, and I just figured,

588
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: of all the people I figure to reach out to you,

589
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: I got George Vogel coming up because I know he

590
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: had sort of crossed paths with him over the years

591
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Speaker 1: as well. So I appreciate you making time.

592
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Speaker 2: Happy to do it. He was, he was one of

593
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Speaker 2: a kind. There will never be anybody ever again like

594
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Speaker 2: Bob Trumpy, No way, no how.

595
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Speaker 1: Most definitely the godfather Sports Talk here at seven hundred

596
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Speaker 1: wl W the late great Bob Trumpy, Lance McCallister, thank you,

597
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Speaker 1: and you're no slouch yourself, by the way, Thank you, Sterling. Yes, sir,

598
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Speaker 1: I'll talk to you soon. He'll be on tomorrow night

599
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: after Eddie and Roncky as always, quick break, we'll come back.

600
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Speaker 1: You got something to say about Bob Trumpy, We'll talk

601
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: to you. We got George Vogel also coming, former a

602
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: WLWT Channel five sports director and a Greater Cincinnati Journalism

603
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame member. I'm not in any hall of

604
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: fames Vogel is McAllister will be, and Trumpy has been.

605
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Speaker 1: I don't know where I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 1: Also Gary Jeff Walker a bit later too. He's normally

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Speaker 1: on at this time. I don't know why he took

609
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 1: the night off, and then he likes texting me earlier.

610
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Speaker 1: He's like, if you got something i'd love to be on,

611
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: I'd love to be on. So I don't know if

612
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: he's having like I took the night off for remorse

613
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Speaker 1: or what, but he wants to talk some relationship issues,

614
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Speaker 1: he says, So that's coming up after eleven o'clock A

615
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: good way to go between now and midnight when we

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Speaker 1: start to rolling atn so hang out at Sterling on

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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW Glad you're a long fine Monday Night,

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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW Sterling hanging out nine first one forecast

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Speaker 1: on the Big one thirty four tonight, middle sixties for

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Speaker 1: election day tomorrow. Go vote if you haven't already close

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Speaker 1: to seventy on Wednesday, then sixty again on Thursday. It's

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Speaker 1: a bomby forty seven. Now your severe weather station seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW Gary. Jeff Walker is gonna join me. He's

624
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Speaker 1: normally here now, but he's unavailable, but it says he's

625
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: still awake in what's to talk relationships. I don't know

626
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Speaker 1: if that's his relationship with me, if that means at home,

627
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Speaker 1: I don't know. If he's very concerned about people so

628
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: well being. Apparently coming up after eleven o'clock, we'll get

629
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Speaker 1: into his head about that. Monday night football going on

630
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Speaker 1: right now, and it's the Cardinals twenty seven Cowboys ten

631
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Speaker 1: in Arlington, not Dallas. They play in Arlington. Swayan Coff

632
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Speaker 1: and what else. Oh, holy crap. You see Bearcats open

633
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Speaker 1: up their twenty five twenty six season. You heard it

634
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: here earlier, fifth third Arena, Mowagger Dan Horde with the

635
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Speaker 1: call Bearcats ninety four Western Carolina's Canamount sixty three Xavier one.

636
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Speaker 1: They beat Maris sixty six sixty two with centas a blowout.

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00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: The Norse easily handled U C. Claremont. They're cougar is

638
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 1: the truest arena one twenty six sixty nine. That's massive.

639
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 1: Eighty eight forty eight Dayton Flyers got by Canisius's Griffins

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00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 1: at U D Arena and Wright State Raiders eighty six

641
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Speaker 1: over Franklin's Grizzlies eighty six thirty six at the Nutter Center.

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Speaker 1: That had to make a horrible drive home for Franklin's Grizzlies,

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Speaker 1: is my guess from Fairborn. All right. On the other side,

644
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Speaker 1: we've already talked to Lance McAllister kind enough to give

645
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Speaker 1: us some time after your ten thirty report. Lee Mawin

646
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Speaker 1: has the news. We'll talk to George Vogel, former sports

647
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Speaker 1: director WLWT Channel five. He's a greater Cincinnati Journalism Hall

648
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: of Famer. You went in with the likes of Ken

649
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: Brew and John Fay, Danny Jansen, Wayne Box, Miller, Popovich Popo.

650
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: I like to call him aout John Popovic and who else,

651
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 1: Betsy Ross and some others. I think I let somebody

652
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: out Kevin Barnett as well, old KRC executive sports producer.

653
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: We'll talk to George Vogel about the late great Bob Trumpy,

654
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: godfather of sports talk radio. Lance joined us earlier with

655
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Speaker 1: his take he worked with him, he grew up listening

656
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: to him like I did. I still have said this before,

657
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: and just you come into this building if you're somebody

658
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: who is in and around the Tri State are now

659
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: with the iHeartRadio app from basically anywhere, and you listen

660
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: to so many people and you hear them, and you

661
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: know you live with them everywhere you go there there

662
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: I am too, I guess now at this point. But

663
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: and then you run into them as I did with Trumpy,

664
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: as I have so many others, and just sort of

665
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: in awe of and then knowing his history as an

666
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: original Cincinnati football Bengal and going on to do what

667
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: he did just a really genuinely decent human being too.

668
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: Away from that, George Vogel's take on the loss of

669
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 1: Bob Trumpy and his experience with him, and a whole

670
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: lot more, including conversation with Gary Jeff but Walker as well.

671
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: After eleven o'clock So hang out news straight away more

672
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: Sterling on a winning night for basically the Musketeers, the

673
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: bear Cats, the Norse, the Flyers, the Raiders, and to

674
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 1: others and right now Cardinals looking to add on taking

675
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: on those Cowboys right about now on somebody night football

676
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: time for New seven hundred wlw oh later on get

677
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: your sleep, Get ready, get to voting Tomorrow Election Day,

678
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: about twenty five percent of eligible voters expected to hit

679
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: the polls. If it hits thirty percent, the earth may shake,

680
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: it could spin off its axis. Who knows what might

681
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: happen for mayor and council in Cincinnati and elsewhere. But

682
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: you know, if you want to be heard, you gotta vote.

683
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: That's just how it goes, sort of like this. If

684
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: I want to be heard, I have to turn the

685
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: microphone off that you can't hear me off. Like that's

686
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: sort of like this. If you don't you're not heard.

687
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: If you don't vote, it's how it goes. It's just

688
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: like if it's hurt right in front of me like that,

689
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: that's how that works. But I digress. Maybe you don't

690
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: want to get in the sandbox and play, you know,

691
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: it's up to you. Someone who knows about being in

692
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 1: the big sandbox of life, someone who knows about bowling

693
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Speaker 1: three hundred, someone who knows about the late great Bob Trumpy,

694
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Speaker 1: the godfather of sports talking. For some reason, still takes

695
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: my call on occasion. It's unbelievable. Former sports director WLWT

696
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: Channel five. He's a Greater Cincinnati Journalism Hall of Fame member,

697
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 1: which is crazy because I know him and he takes

698
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: my call. It's unbelievable. So does Cam Brew. He came

699
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: in the same class. So did Wayne box Miller, John Popovich,

700
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: and Denny Jansen as well. George Vogel, how are you

701
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 1: on this fine Monday night?

702
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 3: Early?

703
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 5: I'm great, and I don't think I owe you money,

704
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 5: but I still take the call, So that's fine.

705
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: You're a good man.

706
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: I appreciate that because there are people whose calls I

707
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: don't take myself because they may want money too. It's all.

708
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 3: I think we're all in that boat.

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Speaker 1: That's tremendous. Uh, you know, I I crossed paths with

710
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: Bob Trumpy in their building when we were in Mount Adams.

711
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: But I was just a kid coming up up and

712
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: known he was a Bengal. I had seen him play

713
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: a little bit as a Bengal. I'd grown up listening

714
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: to the guy on the radio now known as the

715
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: godfather of sports talk here at seven hundred WLW certainly

716
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: hurting calling NFL games and doing Olympic stuff and everything else.

717
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: But you bumped shoulders with it and ran around with

718
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: Bob Trumpy at one time or another. We lost him

719
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: over the weekend. My heart goes out to his family,

720
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 1: But I thought i'd reach out to you to see

721
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: what your take is on Bob Trumpy, his legacy, in

722
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 1: what your relationship may have been like, if any.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Trump was a great guy to me, and I met

725
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 5: him back in the early eighties when WLW was still

726
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 5: downtown there on Fourth Street. Oh yeah, and he had

727
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 5: started out at one of the other stations, I want

728
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 5: to say, fifteen thirty, when he was still playing for

729
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 5: the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: And I remember Trump getting drafted. I remember him catching.

731
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Speaker 5: A pass on a crazy play late in a game

732
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 5: a rainy afternoon at Riverfront to win a game again

733
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Speaker 5: the Dolphins, I believe, which was ironic that the Bengals

734
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 5: beat the Dolphins in very wet conditions.

735
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: The fish might might take to that a little better there.

736
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 3: And then, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 5: And Trump was on I believe fifteen thirty and was

738
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 5: still on the team, and I think he did it

739
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 5: some in the off season. He did go to WLWT

740
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Speaker 5: and do some weekend anchoring sometimes. And I didn't know

741
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:30,240
Speaker 5: him from that first time I met him early eighties WLW,

742
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Speaker 5: and he was in there.

743
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Speaker 3: I believe he was.

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Speaker 5: I think Seg was there at the time as an

745
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 5: intern or something. And that's when I met Seg. I

746
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 5: met Trump. We were going down there to get some

747
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 5: audio from an interview he had done, because back then,

748
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 5: you know, that's only you had to go get stuff.

749
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: You can try it through.

750
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 5: The internet and audio file and all that stuff. I

751
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 5: think I had to go down there and pick up

752
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 5: one of those old carts if you remember.

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Speaker 1: That, I do for those who don't know, that's what

754
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: it was, basically, yeah.

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00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 5: Exactly, yeah, And and he was always you know, he

756
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 5: was good then and said hello, and met this you know,

757
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 5: crazy intern from WLWT, and he's you know, always been

758
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 5: good since he would come on our Bengals shows after

759
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 5: he had retired. You know, I you know, loved the

760
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 5: guy and loved what he did. And he was one

761
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 5: of the first people to call out the Bengals and

762
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 5: say there was going to be big time problems when

763
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 5: things switched hands down there with family members, and you

764
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 5: know it, he was pretty much proven right on that.

765
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 5: At the time, I thought, oh man, this guy's grumpy

766
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 5: and has an axe to grind and and I'll be

767
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 5: darned he called that shot.

768
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Speaker 3: But yeah, he was something else.

769
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 5: And then goes on you know after sports talk, which

770
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 5: he kind of you know, made sports talk what it

771
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 5: was in this town. And WLW did a sports talk

772
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 5: show before him, but you know, Phil samp was on there,

773
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 5: I think Andy Mack sometimes. And then Trump made such

774
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 5: an impact at fifteen thirty and then they brought him

775
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 5: over and you know, the rest is history.

776
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: It's an amazing thing. And you've done a lot of

777
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: different things for those on the outside looking in, how

778
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: difficult is it for someone because it may not have

779
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: been seamless, but from the outside looking in, it seemed

780
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: like from him going from a player for the Bengals,

781
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: to being on the radio even at the same time,

782
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 1: which was wild, then doing sports talk for the better

783
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: part of a decade, then going off and in the

784
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: midst of that was still doing some NBC stuff, then

785
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 1: doing TV and radio for them, and Olympics and Ryder

786
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: Cup and NFL stuff and seemingly comfortable and did it well.

787
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: How hard is it for someone to be able to

788
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Speaker 1: do those different types of things and make it seem effortless,

789
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: because it did seem like it just was who he was.

790
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, Trump very intelligent guy. He was an intelligent guy.

791
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 5: You know, he could size up a situation in a

792
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 5: hurry if you asked me.

793
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 3: You know, he may mistakes like.

794
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 5: We all do, but man to juggle all those things

795
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 5: that you just mentioned and.

796
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 3: Do it so well.

797
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 5: I mean he went when he goes you know, he's

798
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 5: doing football games and doing the other stuff, and then

799
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 5: goes to PGA golf. Oh yeah, and I'm like, how's

800
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 5: this going to work?

801
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 4: Oh?

802
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 5: It worked out well. And he loved that gig. He

803
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 5: loved that gig, and it worked out very very well.

804
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 5: And then as you said, he does some Olympics stuff,

805
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 5: and boy, he had a heck of a career. I

806
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 5: mean you forget half of what he did.

807
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 3: Because he did so much and so many different things.

808
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: It really is. Talking to George Vogel, former sports director WLWT,

809
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: also Hall of Famer and greater Cincinnati journalism Hall, was

810
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: stirling on the being one talking about Bob Trump. He

811
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: got Fathers Sports Talk and we lost over the weekend,

812
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 1: and I should clarify he passed away. When I say lost,

813
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to joke around, but I've had people

814
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: reach out where they have been messing with me. What

815
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: do you mean we lost him? He died? Okay, fair enough.

816
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: I just want to claric right. And it's a hard thing,

817
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: and I don't know because I'm not experienced it. It

818
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: has to be an odd thing for family members and

819
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 1: very close friends. On one hand, hearing about the one

820
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: that you love who's no longer with you, to be

821
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: talked about so glowingly and lovingly by so many as

822
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: a fan, as a co worker, as a friend. But

823
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: on the other side, it's got to be odd to

824
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: have that same level of sharing publicly, just something that

825
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: for most of us is a very very private kind

826
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: of thing. As you tried it to go through this

827
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: process of grieving and everything else. I don't know if

828
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: there's much of a question there, but just think.

829
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 5: No, but there's you know, everyone feels for the family

830
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 5: and you just everything you have goes out to them

831
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 5: as they deal with this. And you know, he was

832
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 5: I'll tell you trump he ruffled some feathers. But that

833
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 5: was the thing about him. He would he would tell

834
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 5: it like he saw it. And he wasn't sugarcoating. He

835
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 5: was I think I heard someone say today, very direct.

836
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 5: That's a great way to it. He was very direct.

837
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 5: There wasn't you know, great area. You knew what he thought,

838
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 5: where he stood, and uh boy, oh boy.

839
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Speaker 3: I mean I just actually before I met.

840
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 5: Him, I when I was in college, I actually called

841
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 5: him a couple of times on the show, bantering back

842
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 5: and forth with yeah it was it was a lot

843
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 5: of fun and uh uh he he. I don't think

844
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 5: he ever really hung up on me, but he did

845
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 5: probably cut me off a couple of times.

846
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 3: But he should have, because you know, I tend to

847
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 3: blow the eight.

848
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: Who doesn't sometimes they hire you when I think that's

849
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: how I ended up here too. I think he did

850
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: hang up on Lance. Lance said he did hung up

851
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 1: on him. So that's great.

852
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, the problem was he and Lance were doing the

853
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 5: show together, right.

854
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: Hard to get rid of the co host, right, It's

855
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 1: difficult when you're sitting across from him on a table.

856
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: It's a challenge that it really is, exactly. It's an

857
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: odd thing because you were coming up and like you said,

858
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: he took your calls and you were around as an intern,

859
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: and then you see him in that type of situation.

860
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: It's wild to see someone grow and develop. I mean,

861
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: here's a guy that as a football player and is

862
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: enough that most of us here you said, wow, you know,

863
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: a decade as a Bengal forty six hundred yards I think,

864
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: thirty five touchdowns receiving averaged over fourteen yards of reception,

865
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: one of the biggest in the game when it comes

866
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: to being a tight end. Going to the Pro Bowl

867
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: a number of times, like four times, I think, is

868
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: what I'm looking at here on this list all Pro

869
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: Team sixty nine as well. And then to make the transition,

870
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: a lot of guys try to make the transition to

871
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: broadcasting to media to TV. Now there's podcasting and everything else.

872
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: And you've encountered a lot of these guys as they

873
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: move through that. It's not an easy thing for someone

874
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: to be able to go through it. And you got

875
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: to have people around you to sort of help you

876
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: when you see someone who sort of comes from that background,

877
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: who makes it through like that, To be opinionated, to

878
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: have voice, to get what this is because it's not

879
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: always I mean, this is a show. And to be

880
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 1: able to understand as you just just you know, mentioned

881
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: as he may shut you down and shut you up

882
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: as he was trying to get his point across, because

883
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: it was entertainment. That's it. That's it, that's it. There's

884
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: something very special about that entertainment element.

885
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's that's something that you know, not everyone

886
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 3: can do. And and that whole Carrie.

887
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 5: As you know, carrying a three hour show talking and

888
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 5: talking to people and all that and keeping it entertaining

889
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 5: and and loose and light and something people want to

890
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 5: listen to unless you know, the occasion calls for it.

891
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 5: But uh, I don't know.

892
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 3: There's something about Cincinnati too, Like Trump.

893
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 5: Was the first former Bengal to do all that stuff

894
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 5: and get into broadcasting. But then you start thinking of

895
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 5: these other guys and you know, Chris collins Worth, Boomer,

896
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 5: you know, Solomon Wilcott, Anthony Munhoz, you go, now, Whitworth

897
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 5: and Fitzpatrick on the on the prime video thing.

898
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 3: I mean, there's there's a whole list of it. It's crazy.

899
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: What do you think that I don't know what it is?

900
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 5: I don't know I quite honestly, as we're sitting here

901
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 5: talking and I've thought about it before, but never really

902
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 5: in depth, and then it just popped in my head

903
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 5: and it's like, yeah, he was.

904
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 3: The first of those guys. But for some.

905
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 5: Reason with Bengals and Cincinnati media, there's and and all

906
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 5: those guys I mentioned work their tailoff on this stuff,

907
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 5: and that that that's one part of it, because as

908
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 5: you know, some people might not work hard at it

909
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 5: and they're probably not going to make it because you

910
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 5: kind of have to really work your tail off in this.

911
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 5: All those guys did, and you can still work your

912
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 5: tail off and not make it.

913
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 3: You know, we all have. I mean I could name.

914
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 5: Hundreds of people that have done it just you know,

915
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 5: sometimes it's right place, right time, just right personality that hits.

916
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 5: But for some reason, those guys all were able to

917
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 5: do it as former Bengals. But I do think, you know,

918
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 5: the work factor is first and four for almost in.

919
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: That absolutely and whatever that intangible is aside from the

920
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 1: work ethic is certainly a part of it is maybe

921
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: something in the water, and it's pretty amazing.

922
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is. It could be NF.

923
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 5: Well, I don't want to make jokes and kick the

924
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 5: Bengals leather down, but maybe it's like, well, they don't

925
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 5: pay squat and I got to find something to make

926
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 5: money because I'm not making.

927
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 3: It here, I got to grind.

928
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: Well, you know, in a couple of decades ago, that's

929
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: really what it was. I mean, there were guys who

930
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: had to get jobs in the off season, back in

931
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: the early part of the game.

932
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 5: It's amazing you look at some of those guys, you know,

933
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 5: like Anthony who was the best of all time, and

934
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 5: some kid who hasn't played it down is getting a

935
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 5: contract bigger than you know, his whole career earnings.

936
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, insane, it really is.

937
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 3: And that's where we're at. I mean, they are, let's

938
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 3: face that the NFL is generating money.

939
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you can hear it being printed right now.

940
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: Even on a Monday night with the Cardinals twenty seven

941
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: to seventeen over the Cowboys, as we speak talking to

942
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: George former sports director Channel five WLWT, and Hall of

943
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: Famer and greater Cincinnati journalism, all talking about the late

944
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: great Bob Trumpy. What have I not asked about Trumpy

945
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: and the endeavors that we know of aside from him

946
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: as a human being away from that which we've heard

947
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: good things and about him in that regard, Because as

948
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: much as I'd like to be able to say I knew,

949
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: the guy was literally just a nod, a quick handshake

950
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: and moving through as I was honestly a little bit

951
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: in awe and slightly intimidated just because I had just

952
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 1: come into the building. Was like, oh, and I didn't

953
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: want to be in the way because I just didn't

954
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: want to, you know what I mean. I didn't want

955
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: to be a problem, which is challenging for me on

956
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: a good day.

957
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 5: You know, he came to us, and this has been

958
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 5: a while back when we did one of our Bengals

959
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 5: shows and we had a lot of the you know,

960
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 5: ex players and a lot of the older players come in

961
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 5: and talk about different earrows and things like that with

962
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 5: the Bengals, and he came in and it was funny

963
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 5: talking to him about all that stuff.

964
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 3: This.

965
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 5: He really really appreciated everything that happened along his journey

966
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 5: with with media and and you know, the call and

967
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 5: the golf and the Olympics and just all those different things.

968
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 5: And and you I was talking to him about it.

969
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 5: It's like, man, he's telling me this stuff and I'm asking,

970
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 5: and it's like he really appreciated. He loved it. He

971
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 5: loved it. You know, he knew when it was time

972
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 5: to hang it up and move on. But uh, but

973
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 5: he really appreciated everything he was able to do because

974
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 5: of that.

975
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: And it's, you know, the thing he was good at it,

976
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: he enjoyed it. He appreciated it too. I Mean, these

977
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: are all the things I think that probably people who

978
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: are in that situation that's maybe that special thing that

979
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: they have in that that way too, because.

980
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and when when you're in the middle

981
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 5: of it, you don't really stop and think about it

982
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 5: or all.

983
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 3: You know.

984
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,479
Speaker 5: It's like, since I retired, I'll sit here and think, oh, wow,

985
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 5: yeah I went there, I was at that field, or

986
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 5: I was here for that, and it's like, damn, you know,

987
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 5: I was pretty lucky.

988
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 3: Yeah I looked at it that way.

989
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've watched you. It's the same type

990
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 1: of thing. I was like, hey, and then I get

991
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: like across pass with you and talk like I said,

992
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: I mean, i'd say it lightheartedly. When you know you

993
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: actually take a call. I mean, I don't know. I

994
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't call them call Okay, you know what I mean.

995
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: Though you have lived these things, you've done these things,

996
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: You've been these places also, and when you're in it,

997
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: it is difficult to really appreciate it because you're working

998
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: in your Yeah, you know exactly.

999
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 5: You're you're you're you're complaining about something because there's a

1000
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 5: deadline coming up, and there's a piece of equipment not working,

1001
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 5: or someone not answering the phone, or you got writer's block.

1002
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 3: You know, you're complaining.

1003
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 5: But at the same time you've got to appreciate and

1004
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 5: and that's hard to do. But certainly once you're out.

1005
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 3: Of it, it's it's easy to do.

1006
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 5: You look back, and you know, I remember my mistakes,

1007
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 5: but I don't remember anybody else's. I just remember having

1008
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 5: a good time and all the great places we went.

1009
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 1: And that's really the thing. I mean, it's living the dream.

1010
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: It's it's almost like free money and you're able to

1011
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: do something that you enjoy that your passion, and not

1012
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people get to enjoy that. And I

1013
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: feel pretty lucky about that too. I'm glad you do

1014
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: as well. That's that's that's excellent, uh, Georgie.

1015
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 5: And I think Bob did with the football and the

1016
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 5: uh and the broadcast end of it.

1017
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was just so good. Uh. And everybody that

1018
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: I've talked to has so has shared so much as

1019
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: far as him just being a good person aside from

1020
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: the work and that. I think that's what we had.

1021
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 5: That voice too, and it was like that voice, you know,

1022
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 5: it's all it was Darth Vader before Darth Vader.

1023
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: That's true. That's well stated. Man.

1024
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 3: He spoke and you lessened man.

1025
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 5: That voice commanded respect and and by guy that he

1026
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 5: deserved it.

1027
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: I can remember being in my bedroom with the hand

1028
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: me down Reader's digest radio with an earbud when I

1029
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: listening to him as a kid. UH tell you, yeah,

1030
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:49,280
Speaker 1: that's pretty crazy.

1031
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 3: Uh.

1032
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: George Vogel, thank you take it. Thank you for taking

1033
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 1: my call and sharing a little bit of your experience

1034
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: and your and your understanding about Bob Trump and the

1035
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 1: man and the professional that he was and just bringing

1036
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 1: what you bring to the table. So thank you.

1037
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 3: Yep, anytime, Sterling give me a call.

1038
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 1: Take care of yourself before I let you bounce. You're

1039
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: doing much bowling because I know you. We always talk

1040
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: like I got bowling in the morning.

1041
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had a back surgery about a year ago

1042
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 5: and I haven't gotten back in the bowling. But I

1043
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 5: got a tea time tomorrow at ten fifty seven, so

1044
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 5: I got that going on.

1045
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 3: But I'm going to try and get back in the

1046
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 3: bowling this winter.

1047
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: Well, I hope you hit it good tomorrow and enjoy

1048
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: it before it gets too cold and the frozen tundra

1049
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: of a Cincinnati winner and those gray skies get upon us.

1050
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: Go hit it well tomorrow.

1051
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, those days are coming fast.

1052
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: Thanks Sterling, take care of yourself. He's Georgia Bulg, the

1053
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: former sports director WLWT Channel five, talking about the late

1054
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 1: great Bob Trumpy Godfather's sports radio here on the Big One.

1055
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: Coming up. We'll talk to Gary Jeff Walker after eleven o'clock.

1056
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: A lot of other ground to cover your chance to

1057
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: get interacted. Beautiful Monday night here the Nation station basketball

1058
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: bear Cats win ninety four sixty three over Western Carolina.

1059
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: Earlier Musketeers handled Maris sixty six sixty two at Sentas

1060
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: Nku Norris at their place in Northern Kentucky Truist Arena

1061
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: one twenty six to sixty nine, they handled U. C.

1062
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: Claremont with ease, and Canisius's Golden Griffin leave you the

1063
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: arena sad as the Dane Flyers pound them eighty eight

1064
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: forty eight and the Wright State Raiders pounded Franklin's Grizzlies

1065
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: eighty six thirty six at the Nutter Center Quick Break

1066
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: Comeback News. A little bit later, Gary Jeff Walker, Final

1067
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: Hour ahead on a Monday night, Sterling, where the Hoode

1068
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,240
Speaker 1: play even though it was not a good outcome yesterday

1069
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: as while as the bearcatch the Musketeers, and sooner than

1070
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: later hod Stoveleague action here talking red seven hundredu WLW

1071
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Election Day tomorrow, Go vote if you haven't already voted.

1072
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 1: He heard my recommendation. So I'm trying to say here

1073
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,760
Speaker 1: to hew final Hour together Monday night, Gary Jeff Walker's

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00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: normally here at this time. Instead he took the night off.

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00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: Yet he reached out to me earless, sause I really

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00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: want to be on to talk about gen Z and

1077
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: their relationship problems. I'm like, what are you talking about,

1078
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: Gary Jeff Walker, how are you? What are you doing

1079
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: with Sterling? Hanging out on a Monday night? Bearcats win,

1080
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: Musketeers win, Norse win, Dayton Flyers win, Right State Raiders win,

1081
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 1: and there's two losing teams playing Monday night football cards

1082
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: and Cowboys and now you on the line, Gary Jeff,

1083
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 1: You've made my night complete.

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00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 4: Well, Sterling, I would think that there are probably some

1085
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 4: people who think there's an enormous amount of hubris for

1086
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 4: me topear in this timeslot when I'm actually.

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00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 3: Not on the air.

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00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 4: But it's not a matter of It's not a matter

1089
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 4: of narcissism at all. But there are several things percolating.

1090
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 4: I'm still getting over the passing of the Great Bob Trumpy. Yes,

1091
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 4: and you among many people I know who have suffered

1092
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 4: from TDS. Trumpy huh, Trumpy syndrome?

1093
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: What are you talking about?

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00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 4: You have Trumpy derangement syndrome. You've actually said that everything

1095
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 4: about Trumpy ever did or said must be bad because

1096
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 4: it was Bob Trumpy. We're going to get past that.

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00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: Have you had a blunt trauma?

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00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 4: Well, not recently, I did crack some ribs about.

1099
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 3: Two weeks ago.

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00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: Oh that's not good.

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00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 4: No, I just wanted to mention Bob Trumpy. We'll be

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00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 4: having in depth discussions on the memory of Bob Trumpy

1103
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 4: tomorrow night on the Election Night Show. We'll deliver that

1104
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 4: in between election results tomorrow from nine to midnight. But

1105
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 4: I saw something today and it just thought I thought

1106
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 4: this was a great sterling topic. And it was that

1107
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 4: gen Z men for some reason are afraid to go

1108
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 4: out on dates because of possible failures that could become viral.

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00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: Is apparently they're afraid they're going to be filmed right

1110
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,720
Speaker 1: in some fashion doing something stupid.

1111
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 4: And doing something stupid, saying something stupid.

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00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: It's never stopped either one of us. But we're older

1113
00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 1: than that.

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00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 4: Thing, and I wanted to relate that current day news

1115
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 4: story to what many people like me faced when we

1116
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 4: were very young. I was in eighth grade at knox

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00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 4: Stone Junior High School. I was a burgeoning star on

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00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 4: the junior high basketball team. And in those days, in

1119
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:27,439
Speaker 4: the late seventies, mid to late seventies, the boys team

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Speaker 4: would play after the girls team in basketball. And so

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Speaker 4: I'm in eighth grade, probably about fourteen years old, and

1122
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 4: I'm in the stands with my one of my first girlfriends.

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Speaker 4: We were holding hands and there was some kissing, but yeah,

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00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 4: nothing heavy.

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Speaker 3: Nothing. I mean we didn't.

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Speaker 4: Get past well, we wouldn't get past a World Series

1127
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 4: third base without being thrown out at home plate. Let's

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Speaker 4: say that that happened many times in Game.

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Speaker 1: Seven, somebody had to shut down, right.

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Speaker 4: But I'm sitting in the stands with my girlfriend, Laurel Varney,

1131
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 4: and I can say her name now because I mean

1132
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 4: it's been many years and the statue de limitations is

1133
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 4: long worn off. But I'm in there until the third quarter,

1134
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 4: the end of the the third quarter of the girls games,

1135
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 4: and then it's time for the boys to go and

1136
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 4: get dressed out for the boys game, which immediately follows. Yes, well,

1137
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 4: after half an hour or an hour of holding hands

1138
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 4: with Laurel Barney in the stands before our game, I

1139
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 4: am first in the locker room to change out for

1140
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 4: the boys game. Well, I apparently, unbeknownst to me, I

1141
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 4: felt something funny, but it had been become physically aroused

1142
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 4: by my holding hands in the stands of Laurel Barney.

1143
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 4: And I'm the first one in the boys locker room. Well,

1144
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 4: a teammate of mine came in as I was getting dressed.

1145
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 4: I was already stripped down to my underwear, and apparently

1146
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 4: it was obvious that I'd become physically aroused sitting in

1147
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 4: the stands holding hands and kissing with Laurel Varney before

1148
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 4: the game.

1149
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: Because so you're describing this repeatedly for I don't know

1150
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: what reason. You even after you've left the stands and

1151
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: you're getting dressed up to go play, you're still in

1152
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:22,479
Speaker 1: this stay.

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00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 4: There are tell there are telltale signs that I was

1154
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 4: physically aroused.

1155
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: Yes, I hear it.

1156
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 4: And so a teammate comes in, not knowing any of this,

1157
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 4: but sees that notices for some reason, right before I

1158
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 4: put on my uniform. And so for the entire rest

1159
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 4: of the year, and my entire ninth grade year, also

1160
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 4: on the basketball team and the student body at Naxtas

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00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 4: Junior High School in Pedersonville, Tennessee, when I'm fifteen, sixteen

1162
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 4: years old and known as sperm worm. Oh my, now,

1163
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 4: this is the nickname that I had to live through

1164
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 4: even the sophomore year of high school and went to

1165
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 4: another high school, and I had to be known pointed out.

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01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 4: I cannot imagine if that had gone viral, if we

1167
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 4: had had cell phones, if this had been caught on

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01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 4: a video. For some reason, no person would wanted to

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01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 4: have recorded this, me being physically aroused as I was

1170
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 4: putting on my uniform to go play basketball. It was

1171
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 4: bad enough with is the word of mouth it went

1172
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 4: viral in the way that it would go viral in

1173
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 4: the late nineteen seventies. Sure, the way it goes viral

1174
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 4: tonight now is all around the world.

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Speaker 1: So here's what I want to own first. Yeah, did

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01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: the girls catch on to this and make fun of you?

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Speaker 1: Were you traumatized and somehow paralyzed? Is that why you

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01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 1: left that school to go to another because you were shamed?

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01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 4: No, I went I left that school to go to

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01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 4: another because that's what we did. We went from Junior

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01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 4: High to the Okaye.

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01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't just a different high school.

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Speaker 6: I got you, Okay, This this lengthy legacy followed me

1184
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 6: right next still, because apparently it was noticeable enough for

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01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 6: someone to see.

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01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 3: At the end of the hallway.

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Speaker 4: So I'm thinking that the initial reaction by that teammate

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01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 4: and by other teammates were that possibly I was more

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01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 4: equipped for adulthood than they were.

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Speaker 1: I see. So do you think that if you had

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01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 1: been alive and this had happened today, in the fear

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01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: of being exposed publicly, would.

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Speaker 4: You could you imagine sperm worm going worldwide on social

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01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 4: media on x or Twitter or anything, and and what

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01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 4: you would have to live down as being the real

1196
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 4: luct and stud of eighth grade basketball. This could have

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01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 4: been a library, and it was. It was absolutely embarrassing

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Speaker 4: enough for me.

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Speaker 1: But you're still telling the story because you feel comfortable

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01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: enough to do that now. So what is the lesson

1201
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: learned here for kids today? Is to not worry about it,

1202
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: to not worry about the social media so much, and

1203
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: just focus on living their lives.

1204
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 4: Don't you think the lesson is? The lesson is you

1205
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 4: are if you are noticeable enough to be known as

1206
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 4: sperm worm, you should live in that moment as a teenager.

1207
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 4: And I understand that while the girls may laugh at first,

1208
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 4: you'll be laughing last in the ultimate because they'll understand

1209
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 4: that you're a man with plan and ultimately you can

1210
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 4: help them in ways that they're they're mocking. Boyfriends could

1211
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 4: never help them. But one probing further, what I'm saying

1212
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 4: further is that embarrassment in dating and coming of age

1213
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 4: is a right of passage, and that boys today, regardless

1214
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 4: of there are cameras and phones everywhere, don't be embarrassed

1215
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 4: to go through that and understand that everybody goes through that,

1216
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 4: and while you may be singled out, it's just a

1217
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 4: right of passage, and that we are so measured and

1218
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:47,959
Speaker 4: we are so judged in an age of viral videos everywhere.

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01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 4: It's simply part of growing up and you just need

1220
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 4: to experience it. And I'm just telling you, well, I'm

1221
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 4: not proud that I was that physically excited. It was

1222
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 4: something that I couldn't help right.

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Speaker 1: Well, the bottom line is I think that really what

1224
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: it boils down to is if you're so fixated on

1225
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 1: what everybody else is saying. I mean, things can be amplified,

1226
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: but it really is not relevant to everyday life. It's

1227
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:15,959
Speaker 1: not going to keep you from getting a job.

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Speaker 3: I did not become.

1229
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Speaker 4: A true adult person in this life, Sterling, and neither

1230
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 4: did you. Until the age we realize that what other

1231
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 4: people say and what other people do.

1232
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 3: Is not a.

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01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 4: Measure of who we are. It's a measure of who

1234
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 4: they are. That's right, and that we need to be

1235
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:45,479
Speaker 4: ourselves and not worry about what other people think of us,

1236
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 4: and to not let that be our judge.

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01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 1: Well, that's hard, though, when you're a kid coming up though,

1238
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: your whole world is you know, those hallways at school,

1239
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: and it's that neighborhood. And it used to be the

1240
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: phone that was unplugged into the wall, and now of

1241
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: course it's your wrist or your tablet or your laptop

1242
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: to school or or whatever else that goes into it. Sure,

1243
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 1: but you know how you get kids beyond the idea

1244
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: of thinking that that screen is everything when what's in

1245
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 1: front of you and the communication that you have with

1246
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: other human beings face to face and everyday life is

1247
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 1: more important than something that you can turn off or

1248
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: restart and unplug or whatever else. I don't know how

1249
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: you get beyond that. I think that's the trick if

1250
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 1: somebody is so fixated on it. And there are a

1251
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 1: whole lot of kids who are, there's a lot of

1252
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 1: adults who are.

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01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 4: I spent years of my life in this business, as

1254
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 4: you probably did too, and we all have egos and

1255
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 4: we're always worried about what people.

1256
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Speaker 3: Think of us.

1257
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, to a point, and I always I always tell people,

1258
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 4: if Willie is talking about me, it means that I matter.

1259
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter what he is saying. It doesn't matter

1260
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 4: what anyone else says about you. If someone finds you

1261
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 4: deems you worthy enough to talk about it means you matter.

1262
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 1: That's right.

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01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 4: The moment, the moment that they're not talking about you,

1264
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 4: that is the time to worry. That is the time

1265
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 4: to draw within yourself or realize that you need to

1266
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 4: make some changes if you really care about such things.

1267
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Speaker 4: And I'm just telling you that I don't care what

1268
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 4: anyone thinks of me for my opinions or anything else,

1269
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 4: because I own those, I'm true to those, and I'm

1270
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 4: not going to change those because of any kind of

1271
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 4: cancel culture, and because any kind of viral video campaign

1272
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 4: against me.

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Speaker 1: Have you had that happen to you? Have you had

1274
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 1: a viral campaign against you? At this point? I mean,

1275
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 1: are people apt out to get you?

1276
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 3: Gary?

1277
01:06:58,040 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 1: Jeff Walker?

1278
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 3: No?

1279
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Speaker 4: I think that people universally loved me, Stern.

1280
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: Well, I think your love too, But you sound like

1281
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 1: you have a complex, like people are maybe out to

1282
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 1: get you. I'm very concerned now.

1283
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 4: I'm worried about that I'm trying to preach a message here, yes,

1284
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 4: and you're trying and you're trying to verbally piss on

1285
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 4: my sermony.

1286
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: No, I am not. I am not. I find that

1287
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 1: I am going to the Church of Gary Jeff Walker,

1288
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 1: But I am. We've known each other for the better

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Speaker 1: part of thirty years now, maybe more than that, actually,

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Speaker 1: which is disturbed.

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Speaker 4: Nineteen ninety three, it's been thirty two years since we

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Speaker 4: first met. Holy crap, and at the Brady Bunch House

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Speaker 4: in Dayton, Ohio, Kettering, Ohio.

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Speaker 1: That's right, and they've changed that dot.

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Speaker 4: Worry owned by a man named Alex Williams who had

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Speaker 4: an r D in the back parking lot where he

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Speaker 4: would meet his mistresses.

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Speaker 3: Allegedly.

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Speaker 1: I don't know anything about any of that, No, te

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Speaker 1: I just heard these stories, Yeah I heard allegedly.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, so, yes, we've known each other a long time.

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Speaker 4: But what I'm telling you, and what I would love

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01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 4: to tell gen Z, is yes, you know what, the

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01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 4: technology may have changed, but things are the way they

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01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 4: always have been. And don't let your growth or your

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01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 4: self identity be dictated by what other people say or

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01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 4: do you know what not? Everybody needs to be famous

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Speaker 4: for five seconds, and not everybody needs to be judged

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Speaker 4: by what other people document about them at any given

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Speaker 4: moment in time.

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Speaker 1: Well stated that was good. That maybe the best thing

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Speaker 1: I think I've ever heard you say.

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Speaker 4: Well, you just haven't listened enough.

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Speaker 1: That's probably true. I need to listen more. In fact,

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01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: I'm trying to even listen to the voices in my

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01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 1: head more. But I keep hearing you there now, so

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Speaker 1: I don't know yes, yes.

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Speaker 4: Yes quickly, I know you're you're running short.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 4: God gave us two ears and one mouth for the reason. Yes, listen, yes,

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Speaker 4: and be confident within yourself no matter what others say.

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Speaker 1: I feel good, I feel good. You feel good. This

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Speaker 1: has been good.

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Speaker 3: I feel great.

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Speaker 4: In fact, I think i'm I'm visibly excited right now.

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Speaker 1: And with that, I'll leave you because I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to wait until you dress out for the next game. Jerry,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Walker, he'll be back tomorrow. I get to talk

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Speaker 1: to you, brother, good to talk to you. We'll see

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01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: you later more Sterling coming back. I hope he's okay.

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Speaker 1: It's seven hundred WL night, first wenty forecast on the

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Speaker 1: Big One out A thirty four tonight middle sixties for

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Speaker 1: your Tuesday election day. Go vote if you care or don't.

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01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,640
Speaker 1: About twenty five percent of people expected to actually hit

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01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 1: the polls in total from early voting, mail in and

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Speaker 1: tomorrow at the ballot box on election day Tuesday, November

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Speaker 1: the fourth, and we'll see exactly how many people make

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01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 1: a decision about the mayor or council and a host

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Speaker 1: of other things that are on the ballot, depending on

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Speaker 1: what districts you happen to reresiding him. It's a forty

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Speaker 1: seven right now. Your severe weather station seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: Next couple days warmer Wednesday, close to seventy sixty again Thursday,

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01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 1: low sixty tomorrow. Go talking to Gary Jeff earlier. It

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01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 1: will be back tomorrow night talking about his care and

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01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 1: concern about relationship issues for the people. And that's great

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01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 1: Lance McAllister earlier too. You can check out the podcast.

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Speaker 1: He and George Vogel both joined me separately. Of course,

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01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: our sports talk host here in the evenings does a

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01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 1: roundtable show at Rocky and everybody else and Lapham what

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01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 1: he does on the Bengals Roundtable and everything else at

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01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 1: Lance McCallister. George Vogel, former sports director at WLWT Channel

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01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 1: five talking about Bob Trumpy, godfather of sports talk here

1353
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW, who passed away over the weekend at

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01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: the age of eighty. Just fantastic stories and experience with him,

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01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:02,719
Speaker 1: working with him, knowing him. Certainly the numbers stand for themselves.

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01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 1: As a player ten years or so as a Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Bengal and original football Bengal coming out of Utah and

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01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 1: going on to do what he did as a broadcaster

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Speaker 1: covering NFL and the Olympics and Ryder Cup stuff, and

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01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: just a story career in what everyone has talked about

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01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 1: him is just being just a decent, wonderful human being.

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01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: So it's quite a loss. I grew up listening to

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01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 1: the guy, and it's had a lot of these lately, unfortunately,

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01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 1: but it is the way life works. So my heart

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01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 1: goes out to his family. And we come back after

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01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 1: your eleven third of report, we'll talk a little bit

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01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 1: about I don't know if you can remember this either friends,

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01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 1: maybe at a party, maybe when you were in college

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01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 1: or whatever. It's been some weeks ago. Story was in

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01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 1: the news. Now there's going to be a lawsuit. There

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01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:52,759
Speaker 1: were ten people that were on that balcony. The second

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Speaker 1: or third week in October that collapsed. A couple of them,

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Speaker 1: at least one I think, had life life altering injuries

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01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 1: that go along with that. With this balcony collapse, now

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01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 1: there's some litigation associated with it. Generally, I think they're

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01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 1: supposed to be set in, designed and structure supported for

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Speaker 1: something in the neighborhood of about ten people on one

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Speaker 1: of those balconies more than that, otherwise it becomes a danger.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many parties over the years that

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Speaker 1: when I was in school, either visiting friends at their

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01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 1: apartments where there were parties, or elsewhere where there were

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Speaker 1: some type of balcony on a higher level floor, second, third,

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01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 1: fourth floor, whatever where. Regularly there would be so many

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01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 1: people on those balconies that I just outside looking in

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01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: walking into a building or a house like that, I'm like,

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01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: that is not a good place to be, very unsettling.

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Speaker 1: So it's one of those things that it's sort of

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01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,600
Speaker 1: a person at the party needs to be aware, and

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01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,799
Speaker 1: obviously the struct structure needs to be built a design

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01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 1: and made sure that it's inspected and as it should be.

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Speaker 1: And this litigation is going to play out because it's

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01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 1: just a horrible situation, but I mean countless times, countless

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01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 1: parties where I would see tons and tons of people

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Speaker 1: piled on balconies. They were not designed to have that

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01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 1: many people on them. It is disturbing. Lee Mawin's got

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Speaker 1: your eleven thirty report. We'll talk on that and a

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01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:15,599
Speaker 1: whole lot more coming up here, all before the ATM starts.

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01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:19,719
Speaker 1: Ready to roll on seven hundred WLW. Hey, how you doing, Sterling?

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01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 1: Just about done, not quite rolling till midnight. Then Kevin

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Speaker 1: Gordon fits behind the wheel. Joe Waddell will get it

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01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 1: started and warmed up in America's truck and network will

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01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,600
Speaker 1: roll after the midnight report. Lee Mawin has news. He

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01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: just stopped in to tell me, giving me more details

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01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: about that litigation and the issue in that horrible situation

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01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 1: going back a couple of weeks where those u STE

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01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 1: students or are at a party or get together of

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Speaker 1: some sort out on the balcony. It's supposed to be

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Speaker 1: able to hold ten people, and apparently that's how many

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01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 1: actually were injured as a part of the collapsing of

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Speaker 1: that balcony, which was on the I think the second

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01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 1: floor or third technically above like garage area or parking area,

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01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: which is a pretty unnerving scenario. And I can't tell

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Speaker 1: you how many parties I've been to when I was

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01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 1: a kid, as a student, subsequently even as a young adult,

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01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: which I'm not a young one anymore, and are accused

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01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 1: of acting like a child more than once. But the

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01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:16,680
Speaker 1: just scene I remember walking into parties and having to

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01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 1: get together. You grab one of those nice red cups

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01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: and you hit the keg or whatever, cocktails or flowing,

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01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 1: and people are out and about and then you see

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01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 1: on the patio and it's like filled with tons of people,

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01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 1: and I just I can tell you on more than

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01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 1: one occasion, I was like, oh, hell no, I'm not

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01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 1: getting out there to visit and see people on that

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01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 1: balcony because it's just the fear of them collapsing. And

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01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,640
Speaker 1: then your story like this too, and they have to

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01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 1: go through the litigation process and everything as a part

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01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,640
Speaker 1: of it. But they are supposed to be able to

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01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:51,600
Speaker 1: hold up to ten people and be supported with that,

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01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 1: and those structures are supposed to be inspected however so often,

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01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 1: and you got to wonder, and these are things that'll

1432
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: come out and discovery and argument in this case is

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01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 1: that you know when was it inspected or did they

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01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 1: have more than ten people on it? Was it already

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01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 1: one of those things that they were made aware of

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01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 1: that they should not over tax the balcony. Was that

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01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: not something that had been discussed with the tenants or

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01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 1: their guests, etc. And so forth. I mean, there's a

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01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 1: lot to it, and we're talking about the severe trauma physically,

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01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 1: emotionally and everything else. I'm not going to litigate it here.

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01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 1: I'm not an attorney. I'm not going to try to

1442
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 1: play one on the radio, that's for sure. But just

1443
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 1: an unnerving nightmare scenario. And a good friend of mine

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01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,600
Speaker 1: who was in a band called the Oxymorons when I

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01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 1: was coming up, Ben Schulker was his name. He was

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01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 1: on a balcony. It was not overcrowded, but as I understand,

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01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 1: it was like leaning back up as a lot of

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01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 1: people will do, put up your feet or whatever else,

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01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 1: and apparently lost his this is years ago now, and

1450
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:53,639
Speaker 1: then fell off of this balcony and lost his life.

1451
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 1: And that still shakes me thinking about it. It was

1452
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 1: a buddy of mine, and it just resonates even more

1453
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 1: you see a story like this, or you know, even

1454
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 1: at that time, going around to parties, and I just

1455
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: sort of just like you, I don't need to be

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01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 1: on that backhony. I just do not need to be

1457
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 1: on that patio or that type of situation. Five point

1458
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 1: three seven four nine seven eight hundred the big one,

1459
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 1: Glad you're along. Earlier basketball bear Cats at home fifth

1460
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 1: third Arena kicked off the new season ninety four sixty three.

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01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 1: They sent to Western Carolina's Catamounts back home losers. A

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01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 1: big win for West Miller's bear Cats to start off

1463
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:34,679
Speaker 1: the season. Musketeers at home at sentas sixty six sixty two,

1464
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: they send U Marist Red Fox's home losers. You see,

1465
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 1: Claremont visited Northern Kentucky University's Norse at Truest Arena and

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01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 1: got pounded and sent home back up seventy one, shaking

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01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 1: their heads, probably wondering what happened to us, Not quite

1468
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 1: doubled up, but close one twenty six to sixty nine.

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01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 1: And if I'm not mistaken, that is the most scoring

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01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 1: that the Norse have ever done, one hundred and twenty

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01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 1: six to sixty nine. That's a big win there up

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01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:04,759
Speaker 1: at ud Arena Downtown Dayton, just off seventy five eighty

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01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: eight forty eight. The Flyers handle Canisius's Golden Griffins so

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01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 1: fairly easily. Right State Raiders at the Nutter Center just

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01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes from there, and Fairborn off of six

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01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 1: seventy five where I went to school at Right State

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01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 1: as well as Lee Mallen and Santa Collins too. I

1478
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 1: think Wright State eighty six, Franklin's Grizzlies thirty six, So

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01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 1: a win for all those teams. You see Xavier Nku

1480
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: the Flyers at Dayton and Wright State all getting wus tonight.

1481
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 1: So there is that I'm curious, and I figure, why

1482
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 1: not ask this question here and driving around or whatever else?

1483
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 1: You know, we got a government shutdown that's happening. We

1484
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 1: got people with their snap benefits, food, a lot of seniors,

1485
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 1: some veterans, kids, their moms, single parents sometimes with a

1486
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 1: lot of working families that are food and secure, that

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01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 1: spend time working and trying to handle their business. This

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01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 1: is It's been some years ago, and I regularly have

1489
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 1: on Kurt Riber from the Free Store Food Bank because

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01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 1: I desperately believe in trying to help out our neighbors.

1491
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 1: And it's a very giving and loving community here in

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01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 1: the tri State, and they do incredible work, like ninety

1493
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: three ninety four percent of all proceeds that are given

1494
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 1: to the Free Store Food Bank go right through them

1495
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 1: and go directly to the people with food in hand,

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01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 1: which is a pretty amazing thing. And they get a

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01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 1: lot of corporate support as well. But the number of

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01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 1: people that are dealing with food issues in this government shutdown,

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01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:43,680
Speaker 1: not including but the food bank's getting an uptick in

1500
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 1: military families as well because of their pay situation. Don't

1501
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:51,440
Speaker 1: know about the air traffic controllers and what they're navigating

1502
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 1: literally and figuratively as they're supposed to be going back

1503
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 1: to work on a regular basis without getting paid. But

1504
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: the statistics of those that are food insecure and regularly

1505
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 1: getting food aid in these United States is just about

1506
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:16,560
Speaker 1: twelve percent of the US population, which is just absolutely amazing.

1507
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:24,440
Speaker 1: Like forty one million Americans regularly not in extraordinary situations

1508
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 1: because of the shutdown, but regularly getting food assistance SNAP

1509
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 1: or food card, food stamps, whatever. It is forty one

1510
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 1: million out of some three if in fact you believe

1511
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:38,719
Speaker 1: the numbers of about three hundred and thirty million Americans,

1512
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 1: that puts US just about a twelve percent of Americans

1513
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 1: needing help to get food on their table regularly, to

1514
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 1: make sure their kids have a full belly so they

1515
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 1: can go to school ready to learn and not have

1516
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 1: to worry about if they're going to have lunch or

1517
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 1: dinner or breakfast the next day or whatever else. That

1518
01:19:55,720 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 1: is just absolutely sad, miserable at a time, And I

1519
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:05,640
Speaker 1: know this will piss a lot of people off, and

1520
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 1: I frankly don't care. But at a time, so many

1521
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 1: people we talk about making America great again and the

1522
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 1: effort to make America healthy again, with people looking at

1523
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 1: buying into the healthcare exchanges, working people sometimes with two

1524
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 1: and three jobs, part time jobs, or low income jobs,

1525
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: whatever else, trying to take care of kids and everything else,

1526
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 1: and still buying through the exchange, getting some type of

1527
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:35,640
Speaker 1: help with supplementing the actual cost a tax credit or

1528
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 1: otherwise paid towards those insurance payments. Doesn't seem to me

1529
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,839
Speaker 1: that there's a whole lot of healthy or great stuff

1530
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 1: going on with hungry and people that can't get insurance

1531
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 1: with the prices going up right now. Meanwhile, lawmakers are

1532
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 1: sitting on their ass doing much of what nothing, not

1533
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 1: wanting to vote on it or not really seriously debating it,

1534
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 1: and to talk about somebody not wanting to lose this

1535
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 1: debate or argument or whatever else. Their job in Washington

1536
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: is one thing is working for we the people. And

1537
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: I'm all about lower taxes. I'm all about avoiding wasting

1538
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 1: expenses and government dollars and all the other stuff that

1539
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 1: goes with it. Forty one million Americans on a regular

1540
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 1: basis need help getting food, and it's getting shut down

1541
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 1: or at least in part while they figure out something

1542
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,640
Speaker 1: for how long this government has been shut down. And

1543
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 1: the shutdown wouldn't even be shut down if it wasn't

1544
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:38,719
Speaker 1: for the fact that they were already yanking away healthcare

1545
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 1: and already yanking away money for medical care stuff. And

1546
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 1: here's the other thing that I find that it is

1547
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 1: absolutely amazing with all the talk about our cities and

1548
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,560
Speaker 1: how unsafe they are and a mayor's race in Cincinnati

1549
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 1: where you got a question, is the police policy and

1550
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 1: the way they go about their business doing it the

1551
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 1: right way with the unfound across the street where there

1552
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 1: was a shooting this weekend, and that is it the police,

1553
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 1: is it the government and how the city is handling it,

1554
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 1: whether it's the city manager or the mayor, and whatever

1555
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 1: policy is it, the judges, the judiciary, and how they

1556
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: penalize those handful of people that are regular repeat offenders

1557
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 1: out there on these streets, whether it's young kids, minor

1558
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 1: children with guns or grown adult people who should sure

1559
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 1: as hell know better to not be quick with the

1560
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:28,719
Speaker 1: gun to decide to solve their problems, like it's somehow

1561
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 1: the Old West or some other crap like that. In

1562
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 1: this situation, the federal government in city after city has

1563
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 1: polled federal dollars that were supposed to go to policing

1564
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,639
Speaker 1: to help hire more cops, to help give them more

1565
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 1: tools to do the job, and the federal government talks

1566
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:51,680
Speaker 1: about needing more police and bringing in National Guard or

1567
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 1: whatever else. I'm just gonna say, when you're pulling money

1568
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:59,759
Speaker 1: away from city and state governments that handles policing issues

1569
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 1: and monies that were given to them grants for you know,

1570
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:06,600
Speaker 1: whether it's a supplies and more cruisers or more deputies

1571
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 1: or city police officers or whatever else, I think there's

1572
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 1: a lot of double talk and a lot of jive

1573
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:16,600
Speaker 1: that's been going on in the midst of all the

1574
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 1: stuff that's happening, or maybe I'm wrong five point three

1575
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 1: seven four nine seven eight hundred, the big one. You

1576
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 1: can talk back the iHeartRadio app. But it is bewildering.

1577
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 1: Forty one million Americans in the best of times needing

1578
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 1: help with food, with a government shutdown, and workers in

1579
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 1: the federal government who work hard for us. They're citizens,

1580
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 1: they're neighbors of ours, not getting paid in some cases,

1581
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 1: expected still to show up to work, and wondering if

1582
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 1: they're going to have the ability to put food on

1583
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 1: the table for their kids to go to school. And

1584
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 1: they're worried about winning or losing. Do the work in

1585
01:23:57,080 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: DC and stop talking so much crap. It's it is

1586
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:07,440
Speaker 1: amazing to me. And clearly stuff in downtown Cincinnati.

1587
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 3: Uh.

1588
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 1: And I love Cincinnati, Uh I do. I love the

1589
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 1: tri State in the Miami Valley and uh I just

1590
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 1: the police need to do better.

1591
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 2: Uh.

1592
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 1: Clearly city government needs to do better, and the citizen

1593
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:24,640
Speaker 1: really needs to also do better in all of this.

1594
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 1: You know, new mayor, old mayor, same mayor. You know.

1595
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 1: I don't know, however many council members need to be replaced.

1596
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 1: You tell me. I hear from police who tell me

1597
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 1: that they don't think the courts are doing their job

1598
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,640
Speaker 1: and then turning people back on the street. There's a

1599
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 1: lot of finger pointing, but the cops need to do

1600
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:42,599
Speaker 1: their part, the courts and prosecutors need to do theirs,

1601
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 1: and parents need to do a better job making sure

1602
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 1: they don't make a default, a faulty piece of crap

1603
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 1: product that's not ready to go to school and learn

1604
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 1: and not out on the streets after hours somehow with

1605
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 1: firearms in their hand, thinking it's easier to boost cars,

1606
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 1: steal stuff, sell weed or whatever else that's at there?

1607
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 1: Am I crazy? Let's get Will Will's first here before

1608
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 1: the break was Stirling on seven hundredule lw Will. What

1609
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 1: do you think?

1610
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 7: I just want to say that my wife works are

1611
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 7: so security at downtown office and she's working every day

1612
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 7: not getting paid, and it sucks thirty five days not

1613
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 7: getting paid.

1614
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 1: So what do they tell them when they're on the

1615
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 1: job about that? I mean that they still have to

1616
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 1: show up, because I've talked to a few people in

1617
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 1: different types of jobs and they basically say, we're sorry,

1618
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 1: but you either show up or you may not have

1619
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 1: a job. Is that what she's heard?

1620
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 7: Yes, she has to go in, she has to go in.

1621
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 7: She has to work, do the office, not from home.

1622
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 7: There's no telework anymore. She has to give a report

1623
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 7: to the office, work regular work load, do all the

1624
01:25:56,520 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 7: normal things that she does day to day. And we

1625
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:02,640
Speaker 7: just haven't gotten a page. She got a half a

1626
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 7: paycheck three weeks ago, no paycheck last week, and no

1627
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 7: paycheck coming up. This crateic.

1628
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: Now, I'm guessing you must work or it's gonna I mean,

1629
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 1: that's a really tough situation to be in when you're

1630
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 1: not getting money or knowing how much you're gonna get of.

1631
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 7: Any Yes, I do work. We have a emergency fund.

1632
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 7: It's about a six month emergency fund. We're a little

1633
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 7: over a month in.

1634
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. Most people don't even have a

1635
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 1: thousand dollars in an emergency fund, let alone six months.

1636
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 1: You guys were thinking ahead like squirrels, putting those nuts

1637
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 1: away before winter gets here. That's a smart way to

1638
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 1: do it, man, And going to be in a position

1639
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 1: to do that. What's the morale that she's talked about

1640
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:46,440
Speaker 1: with her co workers there. I'm curious.

1641
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 7: It's brutal. They don't want to I mean, they're there

1642
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 7: to help everybody that haunts a scaredy, So I mean

1643
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 7: they're not. They don't want to leave the people that

1644
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 7: they have appointments with high and dry. But at the

1645
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 7: same time, they're working every day, all day long, doing

1646
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:08,679
Speaker 7: the same thing and not getting paid.

1647
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 3: So it's it's rough.

1648
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd say it is. I'm sorry you're having to

1649
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 1: go through that and so many other people. It's probably

1650
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 1: the nicest way to put it. I've tried to keep

1651
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 1: it clean in the frustration that I have, and I'm

1652
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 1: still getting paid when I show up, So I mean,

1653
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 1: that's right, that's a whole other story. We'll see if

1654
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 1: my card key were the next time.

1655
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 3: I try. I try not to make a sound bad

1656
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 3: or mean.

1657
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 7: But they just passed the SNAP stuff paying partially. They've

1658
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 7: just approved the partially pay all the SNAP benefits. Why

1659
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 7: can't we approve the least pay is a federal workers at.

1660
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:40,879
Speaker 4: Least yeah, for their salary.

1661
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 1: No kedding, because I mean, here's the thing. I've talked

1662
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 1: to a few people. There's an older couple across the

1663
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:46,959
Speaker 1: street from me. They were wondering about their social security

1664
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 1: issues aside from that, which I don't know much about.

1665
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 1: But you know, there are people that are working that

1666
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 1: are now having to figure out how they're going to

1667
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:56,639
Speaker 1: get food because they may not have that emergency fund

1668
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 1: like you have. They got to show up to work.

1669
01:27:58,560 --> 01:27:59,560
Speaker 1: But then what do they have to do go to

1670
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 1: the food I mean, that's that's that's or the church

1671
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 1: or something like that. I mean, that's a really brutal

1672
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 1: place to be right now. And the lawmakers have been

1673
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 1: ware doing what's awesome.

1674
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:14,560
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, my wife's actually losing.

1675
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 7: Money because she has to go downtown and pay the

1676
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:20,679
Speaker 7: part because they don't they don't offer parking plans down there.

1677
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 7: She has put pay the park and gas and wear

1678
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 7: and tear on the vehicle and not get paid.

1679
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 1: All the other expense.

1680
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 3: Everybody I talked.

1681
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 7: To, they're like, you know, she'll get back pay. That's fine,

1682
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 7: and great bay comes in if it.

1683
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 3: Comes in right.

1684
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:37,599
Speaker 1: And tell your creditors that if you've got a bill

1685
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 1: that's getting ten days past to thirty days past to

1686
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 1: or whatever else, that's brutal. Really well, I'm sorry you're

1687
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:44,639
Speaker 1: navigating that. I'm glad that your wife is there doing

1688
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 1: the job and those others and hats off to them,

1689
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 1: and I appreciate you picking up the phone to share.

1690
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 1: Hopefully they'll get their jobs done and figure a way

1691
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:52,679
Speaker 1: to solve this here in the center than later.

1692
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 3: Brother, hopefully.

1693
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 1: Certainly, Thanks Charlie, curiously, thank you, appreciate you listening. Quick

1694
01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:59,719
Speaker 1: Break will come back. I'm not done yet, although Kevin

1695
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 1: Gordon warming it up and gunning it, he's ready to

1696
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 1: roll with atn after midnight here on the Big One

1697
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:07,959
Speaker 1: on a night where the basketball bear Cats handle Western Carolina.

1698
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 1: They got their first win of the season was Miller's

1699
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 1: guys at ninety four to sixty three, A Xavier wins

1700
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 1: and Nku wins and the Dayton Flyers winning Right State wins.

1701
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 1: And over the weekend the Bengals scored what forty two

1702
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 1: and still wasn't good enough, and the week ago thirty

1703
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 1: eight not good enough. I'm not saying it's the defense's problem,

1704
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:29,720
Speaker 1: but unbelievable. It's sterling just about done. Leading up to,

1705
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 1: of course, Kevin Gordon in America's Trucking Network rolling after midnight,

1706
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 1: Joe Waddell producing, He's telling me about his fantasy team

1707
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:40,559
Speaker 1: and he got to win barely, and he's like the Bengals.

1708
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 1: They score all the points in the world, but the

1709
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 1: defense giving it up like nobody's business too. I shouldn't lap,

1710
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 1: but it's sort of the way. It is a great

1711
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:52,680
Speaker 1: conversation and great memory shared. I got to thank Lance McCallister,

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Speaker 1: making time sports talk host here at the Big One,

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01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 1: and George Vogel, former sports director WLWT Channel five Hall

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01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 1: of Famer Greater Cincinnat a Hall of journalism, giving us some

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01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:06,600
Speaker 1: insights perspective in the late great Bob Trumpy, the godfather

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01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:09,879
Speaker 1: sports talk, eighty years old, passed away over the weekend

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01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 1: started all right here at seven hundred WLW. We lost him.

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Speaker 1: It was just a really incredible talent on the field

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Speaker 1: as an original football Bengal, as a broadcaster, and just

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Speaker 1: very kind just in general. So I appreciate those guys

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01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 1: making an opportunity to join us and share their perspective

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01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 1: and some good words about Bob Trumpy. Hart goes out

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01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 1: to his family. Thank you to Joe Waddell, Gary Jeff

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01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 1: Walker also joined us. He'll be back again tomorrow night

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Speaker 1: and I'll talk to you on Friday.

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Speaker 3: Right here.

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01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 1: Have yourself a good one. Go vote if you want

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01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:44,479
Speaker 1: to tomorrow. Should listen, even if thirty percent of the

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01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 1: possible voters out there that are eligible hit the ballot

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01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 1: box tomorrow, which they won't. That's thirty They expect twenty

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01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:54,640
Speaker 1: five percent including early voting and mail in, so it

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01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 1: should be easy to get in and get out to

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01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 1: make your choices when it comes to the vote if

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01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:01,800
Speaker 1: you choose to to vote tomorrow Election Day, and will

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01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 1: have full on results and information and news as always,

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Speaker 1: right here, all day long and all night here on

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Speaker 1: the home of the Reds, the Bengals, the Bearcats, the Musketeers,

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Speaker 1: and the Hood. Day here seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati,