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Speaker 1: Victory, no doubt about it. Of course, we have some

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Speaker 1: Year, perfectly said, Doc. Always appreciate it. Enjoy your weekend,

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Speaker 1: Perfect a week All right, sounds good, Doctor, Dave Schneider

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Speaker 1: to Orthelcolorado dot org. As I mentioned, we'll hear from

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Speaker 4: like the Chargers at home? I do, okay, Well, we're

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Speaker 4: all rooted for the Texans, definitely, rooting for the Texan Gas.

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Speaker 4: My question is this, is this game really only on

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Speaker 4: NFL network.

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Speaker 1: And that's what Yeah, I think it is. I think

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Speaker 1: it's network. Yeah. But anyways, I like the Chargers at home. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I like the Chargers. To David Scrappy, we

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Speaker 1: talked with Passertan earlier about the Chargers, and Justin Herbert

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Speaker 1: just keeps putting this team on his back. If you're

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Speaker 1: asking me which singular player would I put my faith

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Speaker 1: in more than any anybody else on the field, it'd

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Speaker 1: be Justin Herbert to be able to solve to a

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Speaker 1: certain degree the Texans, and you can run to the Texans.

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Speaker 1: You saw Ashton Jenny go up and down the field

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Speaker 1: against the Texans last week. They've kind of fellen into

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Speaker 1: what the Broncos were as an elite defense that has

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Speaker 1: been leaking into yardage recently. So I like the Chargers

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Speaker 1: to win here too. But if the Texas could get

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Speaker 1: a couple of turnovers, if the Chargers aren't running the

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Speaker 1: ball effectively, this could be very interesting. And the Texans

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Speaker 1: definitely had the talent to go to to So.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I will say this, you made the point

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Speaker 4: earlier to Pat certain that the Chargers are missing both

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Speaker 4: their offensive tackles. Yep, the pass rush duo of Anderson

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Speaker 4: and Hunter with the Texans the only duo to have

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Speaker 4: ten plus sacks in the league right now, they can

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Speaker 4: get after Herbert. That could change the game quickly, no doubt.

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Speaker 4: Tomorrow night's game, the Packers and the Ravens their down

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Speaker 4: goal to go two and a half yards line.

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Speaker 5: Love shotgun the Jacobs to his left. Yeah, Jacobs up

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Speaker 5: the middle, Buries in Yes, comes down shouts Jacobs.

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Speaker 1: Would not be who died? Dwayne Larrvie, Packers Radio Network

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Speaker 1: wr INN W interesting deal tomorrow night. Lamar Jackson doubtful

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Speaker 1: and Jordan Love already ruled out. So we have Malik

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Speaker 1: Willis versus Snoop Huntly on the docket. Green Bay favored

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Speaker 1: by three and a half. I don't know, man, Packers

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Speaker 1: they are in. They could, with some other losses maybe

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Speaker 1: improve their seeding, but they're probably gonna be the seventh seed. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens, this is it. They lose this game and

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Speaker 1: it's over. The Steelers will claim the division. So what

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Speaker 1: do you think?

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Speaker 4: I think if Lamar Jackson doesn't play, the Packers are

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Speaker 4: going to win this game, and the Ravens season is

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Speaker 4: going to be over and there's gonna be some big

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Speaker 4: changes in Baltimore this offseason.

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Speaker 1: I like the Packers to win this game.

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Speaker 4: Leak Willis has proved that he's capable of coming in

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Speaker 4: and winning big games for the Packers before. I like

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Speaker 4: the Packers, and I just my only complaint is this

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Speaker 4: is the game that should only be on a NFL network,

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Speaker 4: not the Chargers of the Texans.

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Speaker 1: But I like the Packers do. I like the Packers too,

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Speaker 1: just defensively that they can run the ball. Derrick Henry

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Speaker 1: had a big game last week and certainly we saw

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Speaker 1: Snoop Huntley along with Derek Hinley Derrick Henry go toe

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Speaker 1: to toe with the Patriots for a while. I just

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Speaker 1: believe in the talent of the Packers and being at home.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be enough. Another game that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be of interest to the Broncos. The Jaguars adds the

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Speaker 1: Colts dropping the throws, Trevor looking four man rush, fires.

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Speaker 5: On the goal liney dive, but touchdown.

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Speaker 6: They stepped Promise Dna out of the backfield and.

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Speaker 1: He's scoring a touchdown with twenty one second to.

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Speaker 7: Play and a half.

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Speaker 1: How good is that? Frank Fraanzie Jaguars Radio Network w

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Speaker 1: j XL, and I did not play a highlight from

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Speaker 1: last week. I think not would not do this too soon?

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Speaker 1: Too soon? That was from two weeks ago. But Jaguars

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Speaker 1: are favored by five and a half brands on the

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Speaker 1: road against Philip Rivers and the Colts. What do you think?

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Speaker 4: I think this is one of those games where you're like,

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Speaker 4: how did the Jags lose to Grandpaul Rivers and the Colts.

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Speaker 1: I like the Colts at home.

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Speaker 4: I think Philip Rivers has looked so much better than

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Speaker 4: I thought he was going to. If their defense can

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Speaker 4: just make some plays, the Colts have looked pretty formidable.

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Speaker 4: I like the Colts to win this game at home

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Speaker 4: and one of the legs to drop on the Broncos,

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Speaker 4: clenching that number.

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Speaker 1: One overall seed. I'm I'm rooting hard for the Colts

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Speaker 1: in this one. It's not even being a hater on

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars. I'm rooting for Philip Rivers. I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: It's such a good story. It's such a great story,

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Speaker 1: and Jaguars will probably be able to move the balls

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Speaker 1: the Colts smoved the ball against the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: and was that late? Kind of pick six? Other game

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Speaker 1: is kind of over at that point, But Colts, they

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Speaker 1: got everything to play for. This is it. They lose

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Speaker 1: this game, They're out. Jacksonville's in already. They're trying to

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Speaker 1: improve their seeding. They're trying to take a run at

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Speaker 1: to one seat, so they have lots to play for too,

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Speaker 1: But the Colts being at home. I like the Colts

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Speaker 1: at least to cover and I hope they can pull

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Speaker 1: out the win. The Patriots and the Jets, Oh boy.

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Speaker 7: Kirst and ten shot dunstat maye be' gonna take a

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Speaker 7: shot deep down.

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Speaker 1: The right side for Kyle Williams and he makes the catch.

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Speaker 1: Was he in bounds? Yes? Touchdown? Patriots Drake made of

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Speaker 1: Kyle Williams thirty seven yard touchdown. Ryan Radkey Westwood won. Now,

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Speaker 1: just like the Broncos game, the Patriots are favored by

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Speaker 1: thirteen and a half. It'll be fascinating to see if

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Speaker 1: the Patriots don't cover the thirteen and a half. If

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Speaker 1: people are gonna lose their minds about the Patriots being

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Speaker 1: frauds or not, they should be embarrassed. Per Nick right

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Speaker 1: that they don't cover against the Jets. That being said,

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Speaker 1: Patriots should win this game. Do you think they can cover?

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Speaker 1: I think they do cover. The Jets have been so bad.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's apples to oranges comparing the Chiefs to

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Speaker 4: the Jets. The Jets in their last three games thirty

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Speaker 4: four to ten loss to the Dolphins, forty eight to

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Speaker 4: twenty loss to the Jags, twenty nine to six loss

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Speaker 4: to the Saints. They're not only losing, they're losing to

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Speaker 4: bad teams by a lot. I know this is a

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Speaker 4: divisional game, but I think the Patriots ran away with

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Speaker 4: this one.

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Speaker 1: All right. I like the Patriots to win, but I guess,

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Speaker 1: just for the argument's sake, I hope they don't cover,

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Speaker 1: just so we can sit there and be like, oh see.

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Speaker 1: Hold this up as an example, the Seattle seas Hawks.

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Speaker 1: This is an interesting game. Take it on.

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Speaker 6: The Panthers takes the shotgun, Sam Reset drop looking looking

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Speaker 6: fired over the middle is talks by a son in

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Speaker 6: ERF Subercs and the Seahawks walk it up and sort

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Speaker 6: at the top of the NFC West.

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Speaker 1: It's a good call there, Kate Scott Westwood one. So

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Speaker 1: it's in Carolina, and now Carolina of course has not

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Speaker 1: secured their seeds. Really, the game next week is going

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Speaker 1: to side everything with Tampa Bay, but this would be

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Speaker 1: nice to give themselves a little bit of a cushion here,

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Speaker 1: assuming Tampa Bay wins this week. So Seattle favored by seven.

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Speaker 1: Though in Carolina grants we saw.

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Speaker 4: The Rams go to Carolina or right here and get

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Speaker 4: beat by the Panthers. But I don't think it's a repeat.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the Bucks have the Dolphins. The Bucks beat

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Speaker 4: the Dolphins, you would think yep, and then you get

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Speaker 4: the Panthers and Bucks for the NFC South next week.

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Speaker 4: I think the Seahawks are the scariest team in the

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Speaker 4: NFL right now.

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Speaker 1: I think the Rams are still Rams and Broncos.

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Speaker 4: Are the top two teams, But the Seahawks scare me

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Speaker 4: the most right now because if Sam Darnald is on

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Speaker 4: his game, they're pretty much unbeatable.

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Speaker 1: So I like the Seahawks to win this game. I

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Speaker 1: also like them to cover. I'm one hundred percent with

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Speaker 1: you guys asked last night. Oh, you were here, obviously,

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Speaker 1: So I was asked last night about what teams in

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Speaker 1: the NFC would scare me in a Super Bowl matchup.

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Speaker 1: I said, pretty much anybody in the NFC West, say,

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Speaker 1: starting with the Seahawks, I think that they're now. Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnold has some tendency in primetime games to not be great,

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Speaker 1: but there's only one way to change that narrative. That's

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Speaker 1: exactly right. And and he has a great defense, probably

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Speaker 1: the offensive player of the year in Jackson Smith and Jigba.

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Speaker 1: They've got good enough running game that they're good. They're very,

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Speaker 1: very good. They're well coached, and like I said, you

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Speaker 1: go down the roster of the NFC West, they're all

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Speaker 1: good teams and they're all three locked into playoff spots.

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Speaker 1: So I like the Seahawks to win this one. But

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Speaker 1: you're right, teams go to Carolina and they forget how

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Speaker 1: to play football. Sometimes. The above full of Bills and

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Speaker 1: the Eagles is a big game.

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Speaker 7: Another handoff to Cook, Ben hit back reaching for the

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Speaker 7: end zone, and he's got it for the touchdown. James

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Speaker 7: Took extends the arm to the goal line, and for

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Speaker 7: the second time this afternoon, the cook is in the kitchen.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown WGR Sports Radio five to fifty. Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: are very slight favorites against the Eagles here one and

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Speaker 1: a half. Bills need to win this game, sort of

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Speaker 1: keep pace with the possibility not only the one seed,

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Speaker 1: but maybe maybe the AFC East. Is there only one

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Speaker 1: game back of the Patriots right now? Can they get

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Speaker 1: the win? I don't think so. I don't know why.

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Speaker 4: I just have this gut feeling that the Eagles offense

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Speaker 4: is going to show up this week. I think Josh

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Speaker 4: Allen will be back to doing Josh Allen things after

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Speaker 4: not having to do anything last week in their.

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Speaker 1: Win got me knocked out of my fantasy.

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Speaker 4: No hard feelings, but I actually like the Eagles to

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Speaker 4: win this game, and Buffalo is gonna have to go

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Speaker 4: into the playoffs as a wildcard team.

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Speaker 1: All right. Final game the San Francisco forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: hosting the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 5: Thirty goals shotguns napped a purty five man rush cot two'sarnatrols.

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Speaker 1: Call one cock touchdown, Crab.

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Speaker 5: McCaffrey just inside the pylon, hold the near sideline at

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Speaker 5: the goal line and nine yards trike I'm a fifth

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Speaker 5: touchdown pass cone.

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Speaker 1: By forty nine Er quarterback prop perty Kevin Harlan west

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Speaker 1: Wood one. San Francisco favored by three. Bear's been a

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Speaker 1: good seam this year, but I gotta believe in the

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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers to get this one done.

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 4: Can we just take a moment to appreciate how good

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Speaker 4: Kevin Harlan is on the call, one of the best,

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Speaker 4: Oh so good.

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Speaker 1: But I'm with you, man.

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Speaker 4: The forty nine Ers offense exploded last week. I think

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Speaker 4: if this game was in Chicago, I would give the

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Speaker 4: Bears a better chance. But I like the forty nine

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Speaker 4: Ers to take care of business and stay in contention

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Speaker 4: for that number one seed in the NFC.

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Speaker 1: All right, there you go. That's our all. Look at

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Speaker 1: Week seventeen in the NFL. It's nice. The Broncos games done.

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Speaker 1: No stress, no worry, Just get to enjoy football over

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Speaker 1: the course of the weekend. When we come back, we

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Speaker 1: will check it with Parker Gabriel, who was in the

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Speaker 1: Broncos locker room last night. We'll get to that next