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Speaker 1: Segment brought to us by eighty four Lumber Dynasty partner

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Speaker 1: of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Here's some free advice for Mike.

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Speaker 1: Tomlin, for Omar Khan, for whoever wants to talk in

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Speaker 1: behalf of the Pittsburgh Steelers as to what's going on

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Speaker 1: with their wide receiver position and specifically the departure of

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Speaker 1: George Pickens in that trade to the Dallas Cowboys for

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Speaker 1: a draft pick next year shortly after this year's draft

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Speaker 1: came and went by all means, stepped to the microphone

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Speaker 1: and tell us what really happened there. Because as time

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Speaker 1: is getting further and further away and Pickens keeps making

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Speaker 1: catches like he made in that game yesterday against the Commanders,

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Speaker 1: people in Pittsburgh are going, what the heck?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: That was my reaction right away when they traded Pickens

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Speaker 1: after the draft, after free agency and only got a

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Speaker 1: pick for next year in return for him.

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Speaker 2: But I'm pretty sure I know what happened.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure whatever conversation they had with Pickens about

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Speaker 1: how things were gonna go with DKB and the number

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Speaker 1: one guy wasn't meant well. I'm pretty sure that there

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Speaker 1: must have been something back and forth between Omar Khan

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Speaker 1: and the representation for George Pickens that was to the

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Speaker 1: extent of, George is gonna hold out, George is gonna

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Speaker 1: hold in. George is not going to promise you anything

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Speaker 1: about how he's going to behave and how he's going

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Speaker 1: to get along here. So the Steelers just said, whatever

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Speaker 1: we punt, we've lost on this one. We'll get by

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Speaker 1: with Calvin Austin and hope for the best. And the

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Speaker 1: best right now is the same result as they had

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Speaker 1: after six games a year ago. They've got one wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: they've got very little else besides that. Austin I do

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Speaker 1: think got a little better since last year, but we

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Speaker 1: haven't seen much of it because he's hurt. There's no

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Speaker 1: guarantee he's going to stay healthy the rest of the year,

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Speaker 1: being that size in the NFL. So they're kind of

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Speaker 1: in the same spot, aren't they. And maybe Pickens said

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't report. Maybe Pickens said he was going to

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Speaker 1: hold in. Whatever the case, they wanted to be rid

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Speaker 1: of them, and they were all to will for the

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Speaker 1: minimal price tag that Dallas gave up for him, and

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Speaker 1: he kept the Cowboys afloat in the pass game while

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Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb was out. Now Lamb is back and next

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Speaker 1: to Chasin Higgins, that might be the best one to

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Speaker 1: two punch receiver wise in all of football. I don't

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Speaker 1: blame the Steelers for doing that. I think they could

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Speaker 1: have gotten better return. I think they could have gotten

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Speaker 1: better return earlier if they had admitted earlier that it

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Speaker 1: just wasn't gonna work between those two in Pittsburgh with

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Speaker 1: him and DK under the same roof, and eventually my

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Speaker 1: guess is by season's end, it's not gonna work out

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Speaker 1: great for the Cowboys with Ceedee Lamb and Pickens. Either

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Speaker 1: that's just my hunch, or Pickens is just using him

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Speaker 1: for a year. He's gonna hit the market, make it

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Speaker 1: big in free agency, and make wherever he goes next

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Speaker 1: the night mere.

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Speaker 2: If it wasn't in Dallas, that could happen too.

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Speaker 1: But I also know that the Steelers don't have a

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Speaker 2: That's the bigger sin.

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Speaker 1: Not what they did with Pickens was the failing to

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Speaker 1: though we're still coming up with the trade deadline, and

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Speaker 1: they can do something about it.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: The record masks that the fact that they're four and two.

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Speaker 1: Metcalf's production at times has masked that. It's also been

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Speaker 1: masked by the fact that DK's healthy. What if he

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Speaker 1: isn't like Pickens wasn't at the end of last year

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Speaker 1: when we went through all this for the first time.

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Speaker 1: So I still do think there is a need there

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Speaker 1: a compliment to Metcalf. I think that's a huge priority.

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Speaker 1: I think they're dumbed to not do it. I especially

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Speaker 1: think they're dumb to not do it because obviously.

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Speaker 2: Things are working out pretty well with Rogers. Things are not.

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Speaker 1: Working out well for the draft class next year at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So all these draft picks that they've hoarded us some

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Speaker 1: of them for collateral. Now, when it's worked out well

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Speaker 1: for you in the AFS, see north and make yourself better,

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Speaker 1: secure that division championship and make sure what happened against

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati doesn't continue to be a slide. And if your

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Speaker 1: defense continues to stink against these next three teams that

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Speaker 1: that's my thought on it. This is what Mike Decursi

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Speaker 1: said when you heard him last week here in the

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Speaker 1: Mark Madden Show and My Friday Football show over at

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Speaker 3: There is an obsession in the Steelers nation, so to speak,

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Speaker 3: whether it's the fan base or it's the people who

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Speaker 3: wide receiver. And I am telling you right now that

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Speaker 3: if the Steelers were offered, Okay, here's a second wide

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Speaker 3: a free safety that can really help you, I would

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Speaker 3: take the safety one hundred times out of one hundred.

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Speaker 3: They are so poor in the secondary. They're getting nothing

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Speaker 2: Nothing.

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Speaker 3: They get no help from those guys on occasion and

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Speaker 3: free safety play. When they traded Mika, they made they

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Speaker 3: made it a they made a significant choice that having

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Speaker 3: a highly capable cornerback is more important than having a

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Speaker 3: are times when that's true, but there are also times

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Speaker 1: So let me ask the question, is Mike Wright, should

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Speaker 1: the Steelers prioritize secondary over wide receiver? And I'll expand

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Speaker 1: the question, if it's just one, you can't have both,

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Speaker 1: although I think the Steelers should look to getting both.

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Speaker 1: If it can only be one, should it be wide

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Speaker 1: made it well. I might actually lean more defensive line

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Speaker 1: whoever it is, if something should happen to DK Metcalf,

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Speaker 1: because I think they're lost without DK Metcalf, because then

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Speaker 1: your second best receiver is Pat Fryarmouth, and they don't

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Speaker 1: even a wide receiver, he's a tight end. Beyond that,

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Speaker 2: You can also.

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Speaker 1: Tweet me at Tim Ben's PGH. So the simple question

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Speaker 1: is is Mike right about that? And if he is,

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Speaker 1: which direction would you go in? Upfront or in the

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Speaker 1: That's also a component of this of they go out

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Speaker 2: Paul in Washington, You're on one O five nine the X.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Benzi, I like, lets you unto you. I hearing

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Speaker 4: you on other areas, but I agree, but I disagree.

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Speaker 4: I think you got to do something by Joey Porter Junior.

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Speaker 4: He's obviously a second round bust. I don't know why

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Speaker 4: But he's nowhere near the football player his dad was.

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Speaker 4: But he can run his mouth like his dad. But

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Speaker 4: he's a bust. Slay is washed up. There's a reason

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Speaker 4: that Philly let him go. We see that now. And Ramsey,

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Speaker 2: Well the Ramsey thing, Paul, and thank you.

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Speaker 1: I got a bunch of people who just dialed in,

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Speaker 1: so I got to rattle through a bunch. But you

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Speaker 1: bring up a good point about the corner versus safety

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I could see where there's a hole beyond

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Elliott, particularly at the free safety position that Mike

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Speaker 1: need because they haven't gotten performance there. You're talking about Porter,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's a second round bus, nor was

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Speaker 1: he was going to go a couple picks later. For sure,

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Speaker 1: he was right about how thirties on the draft board

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Speaker 1: him or not. I don't think it was just a

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Speaker 1: favor to his dad, like you said. But corners just

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Speaker 1: don't move. Safeties move. Corners don't because there's such a

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Speaker 1: they don't let them go. Viper and Cannonsburg, you're on

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Speaker 6: I can't help but disagree, maybe a little bit with

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Speaker 6: the last ball, right, You're absolutely right you need to

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Speaker 2: Viper will losing you.

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Speaker 1: But if you say, I believe what you said, there's

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Speaker 1: more need there for a wide receiver than a safety.

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Speaker 1: I think the wide receivers will move too, because those

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Speaker 1: that teams that aren't going to benefit from second wide

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Speaker 1: That's not a component of this. What are the most

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Speaker 1: movable commodities? And I think we we'll see a receiver

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Speaker 1: market to some degree or another but unfortunately health has

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Speaker 1: offense with the young quarterbacks, and coaches and gms don't

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Speaker 7: I think that you hit the nail right on the head.

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Speaker 7: And one of the things that have a problem with

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Speaker 7: the Steelers is I feel like they feel like their

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Speaker 7: system is way more complex than anybody else in the

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Speaker 7: league that when they do go get these guys like

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Speaker 7: they think they need to like slow. I'll give you

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Speaker 7: a good example is they go out and get Jabrill

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Speaker 7: Pebbers and because of the shawan Elly gets hurt, he

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Speaker 7: splashes in the first game. They talk about how shoddy

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Speaker 7: their safety play is, but you haven't seen him on

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Speaker 7: they feel like they have this buffering period that they

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Speaker 7: watch all these that listen to these other players in

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Speaker 5: that they showed before the game and after the game. Uh,

438
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 5: and obviously once the puck gets dropped, it was a

439
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 5: nice healthy, come come peek, you know, battle against each

440
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 5: other type of moment in that game, which was was great.

441
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 5: They were trying to outdo each other. I thought both

442
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 5: goaltenders were outstanding. I thought the Dalkavich maybe got a

443
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 5: little bit too frisky trying to play the puck like

444
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 5: he did early in the year against Las Vegas. But

445
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 5: with that being said, I think it brought the best

446
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 5: out in Tristan Jari when he looked down the other

447
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 5: end and saw alex Van Dalkovic.

448
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 1: In your time as a player, or even if you

449
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 1: want to go on the broadcast route, what's the biggest

450
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: line that you remember playing against and what made pure

451
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: size so difficult to navigate like we see with this

452
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: new geno line that he's playing on.

453
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was kind of very end of my career.

454
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 5: It was the legion of doom in Philadelphia, you know,

455
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 5: with John Leclair, Michael Rinberg and Eric Lindross. That's I mean,

456
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 5: those are just three horses. Maybe they weren't at the

457
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 5: you know, six' five six six rains like these three guys,

458
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 5: are but, yeah they they were also physical and And

459
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 5: lindros had a had a mean streak and that was

460
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,959
Speaker 5: probably the, biggest baddest. Line of, COURSE i could probably name,

461
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 5: up you, know half a Dozen Philadelphia flyer, lines but

462
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 5: they weren't. Killed they were more just a bunch OF

463
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 5: i want to palm a snot out of. You but

464
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 5: this line here With malkin And brazo And Anthony, mantha

465
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,239
Speaker 5: not only are they, big but they're showing you some.

466
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,959
Speaker 5: Skill and, uh it's.

467
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: All, RIGHT i have to Call we'll have to Call

468
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: borkie back here and get a cleaner line. There but,

469
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: yeah well when we Get borki, back we'll talk a

470
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,120
Speaker 1: little bit more About malkin specifically on that. Line two,

471
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: goals seven, assists and nine points to this. Point and

472
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: he has been really good at distributing the. Puck and you,

473
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: know one thing THAT i talked about with some of

474
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: the players in discussing, this and And Brian rust And

475
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: Ricard raquel both talked about this to a great extent as.

476
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: Well it wasn't just About it isn't just about size

477
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: in terms, of oh my, god this guy's gonna run

478
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: me through the.

479
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 2: Board it's it's.

480
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 1: Possession it's puck, possession it's, reach it's that much stick

481
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 1: in front of, you it's that much stick on puck

482
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: and being able.

483
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 2: To control the.

484
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: Puck borcire is just picking up in the thoughts about

485
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: the size of that line With brazo And mantha And.

486
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: Gino what are you Seeing geno do so far this

487
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,959
Speaker 1: season to sort of drive that engine and drive that

488
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: line with the seven assists he has so.

489
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 5: FAR i don't have to sex the answer for, you

490
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 5: BUT i have the right answer for. You he's keeping

491
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 5: a sample, turn he really, is and on top of,

492
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 5: that he's trusting his. Linements let's See gino guilty of

493
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 5: two things in the. Past is when things aren't going

494
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 5: his way or he wants to change the tide or

495
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 5: do something, special his heart's in the right, place just

496
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 5: as the compass is not pointed in the right direction

497
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 5: and he tries to do too. Much PART, A PART

498
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 5: b is he hasn't always had. Guilt. Guys you, Know

499
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 5: sid has got kind of the cream as far as,

500
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 5: wingers and Then gino kind of gets the. Leftovers that's

501
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 5: no disrespect to the, players it's just kind of what it.

502
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 5: Was and now he's got some, talent not only size

503
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 5: as we, mentioned but he's got. Talent so the combination

504
00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 5: of keeping the game, simple continuing to create and use

505
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 5: your your, skills but also trusting in your linemates That

506
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 5: i'm going to give them that, puck you, know in

507
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 5: that seven eight foot ten foot, area AND i know

508
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 5: they're going to do the right thing with.

509
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: It my, PRESUMPTION, borki is that they want to Keep

510
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: brunick And kindle up, right because why else would they

511
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: be doing this load management thing with them and giving

512
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: them designated days.

513
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: Off that's my interpretation of, it is that yours as.

514
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 5: Well, yeah for, me it's. Twofold and if you want

515
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 5: to add, something jump in man the load management as

516
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 5: far as not giving them too much too soon and

517
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 5: what do they do when they're out of the. Lineup

518
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 5: AND i was really just had a smile on my

519
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 5: face when they both said they studied the, game and

520
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 5: Especially brunick, SAID i Watched. CARLSON i watched the THING

521
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,479
Speaker 5: i write the right hand shooting defense on WHICH i.

522
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 5: AM i just watched the way they went about their.

523
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 5: Business AND i wasn't just up, there you, know eating

524
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 5: hot dogs and popcorn enjoy. MYSELF i actually used it

525
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 5: as like a. Classroom so number, one the load, management

526
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 5: but ALSO i think and also by doing that allows

527
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 5: you to keep them here longer and longer and. Longer

528
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 5: so just being around this team and the coaches and

529
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 5: everything else is going to pay. DIVIDENDS i think it'll

530
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 5: all play out at the. END i kind of get

531
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 5: that feeling him that the nine game kind of, first you,

532
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 5: know line in the sand about whether we keep them

533
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 5: here longer than nine, games which would burn the first

534
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 5: year of their entry level. CONTRACT i don't think that's

535
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 5: as strong a line as maybe it's been in the

536
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 5: past with other. PLAYERS i think they're willing to just

537
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 5: blow right by that and worry about the next line

538
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 5: in the, sand which might be so we send them

539
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 5: to The World juniors or are they better just staying

540
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 5: here In, pittsburgh you know, SO i don't think they're

541
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 5: worried about. THAT i think both players are starting to

542
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 5: tell you, that forget about the nine, games we belong.

543
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 5: Here both, Players i'm gonna lup them both. Together both

544
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 5: players play is showing me that they deserve to stay. Here.

545
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 5: NOW i don't make the, decisions And i'm sure there's

546
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 5: other things that go into making that, decision but it

547
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 5: seems pretty obvious to me that they they look and

548
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 5: they play the role that they are. Given they belong

549
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 5: in this hockey.

550
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: Team, well this is only a half, sarcastic half serious

551
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: follow up to that. Film when they're studying the likes

552
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: Of Eric carlson And Crystal, TANG i hope they're studying

553
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: the right things and ignoring some of the other, stuff right,

554
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: like especially at their age and THEIR nhl skill level

555
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: at this, point to not go too overboard with some

556
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: of the risks those guys.

557
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 8: Take, oh fair.

558
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 5: ENOUGH i understand where you want a little tongue in cheap,

559
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 5: there and that's that's fair because Both Crystal tang And Eric,

560
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 5: carlson you, know could button their game. Up they've been

561
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 5: good and they can be. Better AND i understand where

562
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 5: you're going with that. Question BUT i think they still

563
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 5: do a lot of things, defensively whether it's sick positioning

564
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 5: or angling or you, know just having a presence of

565
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 5: what's around you and moving the put quick when it

566
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,719
Speaker 5: needed to move, quick and when to carry it when

567
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 5: the time to carry. It so there's a lot more

568
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 5: positive than Chrys letang And Eric carlson's game right now

569
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 5: that a player Like, brunik who has some similar traits

570
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 5: and qualities in his, game can actually really benefit and

571
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 5: taking a page out of both fifty eight and sixty five.

572
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 8: Games is it?

573
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: WISE i would think that it is that they're distributing

574
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: the minutes the way that they. Are i'll focus on

575
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: the defenseman for the time, being BUT i suppose you

576
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: could also apply this to the forwards, Too, Phil like

577
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: when you See Ryan shay at twenty one minutes per,

578
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: game when you See watherspoon at twenty one minutes per,

579
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: game the same number is as you, know where we're

580
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: not so used to seeing other guys get as much

581
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: As letang And. Carlson let me put it to you that,

582
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: way it seems like they're better distributing the minutes this

583
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: year and giving less room for mental and physical fatigue

584
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,239
Speaker 1: for those guys to make some blow up.

585
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: Mistakes fair.

586
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 5: Enough, yeah AND i think even and you, Know i'll

587
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 5: talk about the, defense and but even look At sid's.

588
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 5: MINUTES i Think sid's down around eighteen.

589
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: Game, yeah there you.

590
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 5: Go and that's that's a byproduct Of Dan mues trusting

591
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 5: all four. Lines and give that fourth, line you, know

592
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 5: the Laz otteline a lot of credit and let's charity

593
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 5: getting back in the. Lineup give him a lot of.

594
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 5: Credit that. Line, uh they've been difference, makers and especially

595
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 5: in THAT la game and The penguins were, flat they

596
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 5: were the one team that that really GAVE i think

597
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 5: the hockey club a, jump especially the goal By connor Doer.

598
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,239
Speaker 5: So but as far as the, defenseman, YEAH i, KNOW i.

599
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 5: Understand you know Where Connor clifton and where he is feeling,

600
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 5: like you know what AM i doing? Here you, know

601
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 5: LIKE I i've Proven i'm AN nhl defense And i've

602
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 5: played a lot of games in this league AND i

603
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 5: deserve to be in the. Lineup and he's kicked off

604
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 5: and that's, fine that's. Healthy he's going to get a.

605
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 5: Shot SO i think there's really healthy competition on the,

606
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 5: backside and guys are realizing that IF i do not

607
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 5: bring MY a, game THE b game is not going

608
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 5: to be good, Enough i'll probably be out of the.

609
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 5: Lineup and so that's healthy. Competition that's where you want

610
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 5: it to. Be and there's every defension that they have

611
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 5: here In pittsburgh right now belongs to be in the.

612
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 5: Lineup but you can only dress six every.

613
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: Night fourky before we, go and this is the last

614
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: point on this year's. TEAM i want to get more

615
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: of a historical analysis from you on something before we.

616
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,719
Speaker 1: Go but last point on. THIS i know that phrase

617
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: connectivity has been thrown around a. Lot Damn us likes

618
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: to talk about, that AND i think when people talk

619
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: about structure and, system they think five on. Five where

620
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: are you seeing the goal for connectivity and structure on

621
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: the special teams? Units is it shining through in any

622
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: particular manner to? You on THE pk or the power?

623
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 5: Play i'll start with the power play for and, yeah

624
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 5: as far as being, connected it goes in all three,

625
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 5: zones and the best way for me to describe, it

626
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 5: you know from a radio, voice is that if you

627
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 5: were watching ON tv and you had your remote and

628
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 5: you could hit pause when The penguins are going and

629
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 5: they're playing their, game and the offensive zone and the

630
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 5: neutral zone and then the defensive, zone if you can

631
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 5: see to hit the pause, button they can see all

632
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 5: Five penguins, jerseys all Five penguin. Players they're doing something.

633
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 5: Right as far as the power, play it's about it's

634
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 5: about being unpredictable to the opponent and being predictable to your.

635
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 5: Teammates number. Two but as far as the term used

636
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 5: about being connected is even with all this movement and,

637
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 5: unpredictability you still need to have triangle FORMATIONS i think

638
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 5: throughout the ice to give you at least two options

639
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 5: of what to do with the puck if you feel.

640
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 5: Pressure AND i have seen a couple of teams try

641
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 5: to go super high pressure against The penguin's power play

642
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 5: and they weren't quite ready for. It BUT i think

643
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 5: they've done a really good job of making the adjustment

644
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 5: of getting those triangle formations throughout the ice when the

645
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 5: puck carrier is looking for OPTION a and OPTION. B

646
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 5: when you move it quick like, that good things.

647
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: Happen all, Right, Borky i'll leave you with this during the,

648
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: trifecta Which madden And Tommy radio do in the two

649
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 1: o'clock hour of their show every. Day tom's submission today

650
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: was because there's A game seven in baseball tonight for The.

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00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: Alcs he did three most painful and Greatest game sevens

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Speaker 1: In pittsburgh sports. History so obviously it's baseball, hockey and

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Speaker 1: there are plenty Of penguin And pirate nominations during your

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Speaker 1: time as A penguin player or voice on the broadcast.

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Speaker 1: Team the most painful and the greatest that you were

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Speaker 1: a part Of game.

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Speaker 2: Seven give them to me.

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Speaker 5: Well the. GREATEST i think it's pretty. Easy as far

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Speaker 5: as a game, seven that would be the two thousand

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Speaker 5: and nine still on The cup, Game Matt's talbot with two,

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Speaker 5: Goals Joe Louis. Arena he just had a feeling it

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Speaker 5: was meant to be and it was. SPECIAL i, MEAN

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00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 5: i can remember really getting emotional after that. GAME i

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Speaker 5: wasn't expecting to get, emotional BUT i. DIDN'T i had

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00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 5: a tough time talking after that game, again working With Mike.

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Speaker 5: Lain probably the one that hit me in the end

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Speaker 5: of carriage more than any. Other as far as a

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Speaker 5: game seven loss would be, in that would be in

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Speaker 5: nineteen eighty. Nine we had beat The rangers in the

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Speaker 5: first round and then we were playing The flyers in

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Speaker 5: the second round and that's When Ron hextall got hurt

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Speaker 5: And Kane reggett came in and was absolutely. Unbelievable we

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Speaker 5: had our bags packed to go play The Montreal. Canadians

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Speaker 5: we had a plane ready to go After game seven

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Speaker 5: and go To montreal and move on to the next.

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Speaker 5: Round we were that confident we were going to beat

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Speaker 5: The flyers in that, Game seve and it didn't. Happen

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Speaker 5: Kenny reggitt was unbelievable in that game and we got.

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Speaker 5: Eliminated and that one we weren't over. Confident we were

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Speaker 5: extremely confident we were gonna win that. Game we just

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Speaker 5: didn't Expect reggitt to Replace heckstall and play the way he.

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Speaker 2: Did that's ONE i thought.

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Speaker 1: About AND i know you weren't a part of The

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Speaker 1: volk Or fitzgerald. Goals you weren't here then you were

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Speaker 1: playing In New york And ottawa right with The rangers

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00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: And senators respectively for those two. Years, yeah so we

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00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: didn't talk much about That flyer. GAME i probably should.

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Speaker 1: HAVE i kind of thought On madden's behalf about The

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00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: islander game where The penguins blew the three nothing. Lead tom,

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Speaker 1: said if you've blown three in a row to get

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Speaker 1: it to game, seven maybe game seven doesn't hurt as,

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00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: much WHICH i GUESS i could, see but that one

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Speaker 1: still has to stick in people's. CRAWL i also thought

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Speaker 1: about the game seven Against montreal where they closed down the,

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Speaker 1: arena the old arena.

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Speaker 2: Too that one came to.

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Speaker 5: Mind, OH i forgot about that one, Too and, yeah

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Speaker 5: just the finality of, it all of what.

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Speaker 8: We lost to The canadians at The igloo at The Pacific.

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Speaker 5: Like that Wasn't, yeah you're, Right AND i remember just

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Speaker 5: that feeling at the end there was just it was

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Speaker 5: like a like a funeral. Home it was just so

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00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 5: eerily quiet that nobody expected that one.

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Speaker 1: Either but the best game seven you played in with

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Speaker 1: The penguins as a player was what The washington won

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Speaker 1: in ninety.

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Speaker 2: Two, Right, oh amen to, that.

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Speaker 5: BROTHER i remember like it was yesterday and that was

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Speaker 5: the big, game, right, yeah that was that was you,

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Speaker 5: know we made we went to the one three, one

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Speaker 5: we kind of clogged up the neutral. Zone something completely

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Speaker 5: different That, NO i know The penguins really team has really.

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Speaker 5: Done Uh AND i REMEMBER i think it was an

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Speaker 5: empty net goal By Joey mullen maybe Or Paul, Now

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Speaker 5: Paul coffee wasn't. There it might have. Been maybe it's Probably. Mary,

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Speaker 5: ANYWAYS i remember jumping up and down on the Bench

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Speaker 5: tim LIKE i was a five year old, kid just you,

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Speaker 5: know won my first hockey Game i'd ever played. IT i,

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Speaker 5: WAS i. Was that was as happy AS i ever

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Speaker 5: was winning a hockey, game coming back down three to

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Speaker 5: one to those bunch of, schmucks In. Washington there was pure. Joy.

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Speaker 1: Phil this was really good memory lane hockey. Talk thanks

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Speaker 1: for the, time.

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Speaker 5: All, Right, CAM i enjoyed our time.

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Speaker 8: Together this Was you're, right it was good hockey.

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Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh. Penguins before we get to the top of the,

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Speaker 1: hour what happened With Kenny pickett in his return to

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Speaker 1: playing with The Vegas.

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