WEBVTT - 10-29-25 Lance with Richard Skinner

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>with the man they call Skinny, Richard Skinner. How are you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, last, Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for making time tonight. Let's start with the news

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<v Speaker 2>of the day surrounding Joe Flacco. What do you make

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<v Speaker 2>of his if we're projecting ahead now from Wednesday forward,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you make of his status for Sunday?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think. I mean fifty fifty is what Zach

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor called, and that's probably being generous. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when he went down on that sack on the next

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<v Speaker 1>to last series, I had my head down for a

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<v Speaker 1>second and somebody said, oh, Jake's throwing, and I looked up, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you see Joe kind of being looked at

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<v Speaker 1>by the medical staff. Then he tries to throw. He's

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<v Speaker 1>wincing in pain. They give him a couple of a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of I don't know maybe til at all, but

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<v Speaker 1>I know he took something on the sideline that went

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<v Speaker 1>into the locker room, and you can imagine probably got

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<v Speaker 1>a shot of something in the locker room and did

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<v Speaker 1>finish the game, and he was asked after the game

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<v Speaker 1>how he felt and said, I feel fine. Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all well and good because you just got shot up

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<v Speaker 1>with pain medication probably so you did. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>reality comes in that, yeah, he sprained his ac joint

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<v Speaker 1>and that's Those things can be dicey. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 1>can be really long term, they can be medium term.

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<v Speaker 1>They can sometimes be short term. But if he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>good enough to go today and he doesn't go tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, Zach said, you know, if he feels good

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday, even without reps, he could probably play him.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I think that's a really big ask. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give him credit. I know Zach did too. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>kudos to him for wanting to play, right. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy's forty plus years old. He just hurt his

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<v Speaker 1>throwing shoulder. You got a bye week coming up, easy

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<v Speaker 1>to go, Hey, man, I'm good. Get Jake ready for

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<v Speaker 1>this week and I'll come back hopefully and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>after the bye week. But I just think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>big ask if he plays this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>After the game on Sunday, Zach made a public declaration

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<v Speaker 2>of a need for somebody to step up on defense.

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<v Speaker 2>What'd you make of that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know you lost the leadership. But Logan Wilson,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's still playing snaps, but he's not playing

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<v Speaker 1>start he started. Actually he's not playing you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>majority of the snaps. I think it's a plea for

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<v Speaker 1>somebody to make a play. I believe that. I mean, like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, somebody needs to make a tackle. Somebody needs

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<v Speaker 1>to disengage and go make a fact. Somebody needs to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, come up with interception of sometimes. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's looking for leadership with Logan off the field

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<v Speaker 1>and Logan's I don't want to call Logan not a leader.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not fair. He's just quiet, okay. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>leaders do different things. I mean some lead quietly by

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<v Speaker 1>example and some are our real leaders. The guy I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're pointing to is Barrett Carter. I mean he

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<v Speaker 1>I know Zach really likes spirits leadership qualities. The problem

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<v Speaker 1>there is, you know, you've also got to lead by

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<v Speaker 1>example too. And I'm not gonna knock bear a Carter

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<v Speaker 1>for everything because he had a really good first couple

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<v Speaker 1>of series, like alling those great, and he's played okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but he also had a chance on a tackle on

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah Davis, the running back. I mean he diagnoses the play.

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<v Speaker 1>He gets right in the gap. It's one on one

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<v Speaker 1>in the gap, and the thing you have to do

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<v Speaker 1>there as a professional linebacker is put that guy on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. Would have been a yard gain it most probably,

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<v Speaker 1>and he slips through and goes for fifty yards. It's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to lead when you're not making the plays and

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<v Speaker 1>you're a rookie on top of it. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>think that's you're looking for the leader that they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to point to. I think he'd be the guy. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Battle a little bit, but again, his performance doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>exactly scream Hey, I'm really good, so I'm gonna lead

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<v Speaker 1>you guys. So I think I think. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a mess at the moment. I really do. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they had all three levels of the defense. Skinny.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there an in season fix for this defense?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. I just don't think it's one guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, honestly, Atlantis is multiple seasons. It's gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>to fix, you know. I think part of what you're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing with the rookie linebackers is okay, these are our

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<v Speaker 1>guys for the next few years, and let's just let

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<v Speaker 1>them go. They're gonna make mistakes. I mean, you saw

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<v Speaker 1>the one in Green Bay where they both won to

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<v Speaker 1>the outside gap on a on a Josh Jacob's fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>yard touchdown line. He goes right up the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the end zone. Both of them went to the wrong place.

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<v Speaker 1>Both of them went the wrong way. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say you have to live with it, but you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of do. While they kind of get some of

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<v Speaker 1>that out of their system. And you know, at the

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<v Speaker 1>cornerback spot, you've you've been up and down with the

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<v Speaker 1>camp Tiller brit situation. At the safety spot, neither safeties

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<v Speaker 1>played well. And guess what if you're looking, we'll put

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else in there. They don't really have a backup safety.

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<v Speaker 1>They got two special teams guys backing up at safety

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<v Speaker 1>and Tyson Anderson PJ. Jewels and up front. I mean Lance,

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<v Speaker 1>you see the audience is seen in the last the

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<v Speaker 1>last two weeks. They don't disengage from a soul. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's it's not even like getting pressure. It's like velcro.

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<v Speaker 1>When offensive lineman get them. It is staggering. Then in

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<v Speaker 1>the last two weeks they have three quarterback hits total.

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<v Speaker 1>One of those was on that Aaron Rodgers remember when

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<v Speaker 1>he scrambled for eight plus seconds and threw a touchdown pass.

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<v Speaker 1>Dimitrius not actually hit him right after he threw the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one quarterback hit. Another one came this past week

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<v Speaker 1>when Cam Taylor britt blitzed and and hit and hit

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Fields. Those are two of the three quarterback hits

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<v Speaker 1>in the last two games. Not sacks, just hits. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's a big problem at the moment because while you

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<v Speaker 1>can put this second go, I how of Justin Fields

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<v Speaker 1>carve him up? Well, he carve him up because he

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<v Speaker 1>stood back there for eons to throw the football. There

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<v Speaker 1>was one wor seacon number who the receiver was, because

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<v Speaker 1>they were all, you know, backup quality guys. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>a guy on a takeoff route and I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>looked away for a second. All of a sudden, I

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<v Speaker 1>see Justin throw it that way. The guy came back

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<v Speaker 1>ten yards of the football because he had a billion

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<v Speaker 1>years to throw. They've got to find a way to

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<v Speaker 1>generate pass rushing, and I think Al Golden hinted this

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<v Speaker 1>hinted at that with us on Monday a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>without letting the cattle bag. He's on the record when

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<v Speaker 1>he said it like, I've got to create more. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta create more pressures, and I think the only way

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<v Speaker 1>to do that is to start blitzing more and just

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<v Speaker 1>throw caution the way. But we ain't getting stops anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I can create a negative play, maybe I can

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<v Speaker 1>create a turnover too, and that's the only way we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get stops. Because if this team just lines up

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<v Speaker 1>and says we're gonna try to stop you in base

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<v Speaker 1>defense and maybe occasionally blitz, it's not gonna work. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just not good enough.

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<v Speaker 2>The run game is clicking. Joe Flacco has been kept

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<v Speaker 2>relatively clean other than the hit he got smoked on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>Why has that happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Great question, and that was actually we talked Damn Pitcher

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<v Speaker 1>today and that was asked the Dan. He just I

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<v Speaker 1>just think the offensive lines played well the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks. You know, I thought Orlando Brown was sliding

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<v Speaker 1>backwards significantly for the first few weeks. He's played well.

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<v Speaker 1>Ted Carris has actually elevated his level of play. It

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<v Speaker 1>looks like Jalen Rivers, I think settling in nicely at

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<v Speaker 1>right guard. Marius Mims has kept his side quiet and

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, Dylan Fairchout came back in for Dalton

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<v Speaker 1>Reisner and Dalton started the previous game when the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line played well against Pittsburgh. I just think I think

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<v Speaker 1>they've somehow settled in. Uh you know, I know people

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<v Speaker 1>continue to look at the offensive line with a John

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<v Speaker 1>Desie and go, oh, they they haven't stunk. They've won

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<v Speaker 1>the ball great. Joe's been sacked three times and hit

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<v Speaker 1>minimal times in the last two games at approximately you know,

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<v Speaker 1>eighty some odd drop backs, and uh, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>still have to They still have to protect for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times in the game because they dropped back

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<v Speaker 1>to pass so much. So Yeah, I don't honestly, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no real answer than they're just playing better.

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<v Speaker 2>Jamar obviously has been incredible and heavily targeted. Did the

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<v Speaker 2>two t targets on Sunday raise an eyebrow?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure? Did you know? I know the Jets were, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to take both of them away. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm taking one away, no offense to T Higgins,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna focus my taking away on Jamar Chase and

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<v Speaker 1>not Tea. And so Jamar got plenty of targets and

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<v Speaker 1>had plenty of catches. He had two targets. Andre Yoshibash

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<v Speaker 1>had three. Look, I know, Andre was probably single covered

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<v Speaker 1>more often that last play at the end of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>they did double both Tea and Jamar. Jamar talked about

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<v Speaker 1>that and Andre was the place to go with it.

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<v Speaker 1>But in what world did you sign t Higgins in

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<v Speaker 1>this contract and he only gets two targets? That just

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be crazy to me, Like, and it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like it's kind of been that way almost all year,

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<v Speaker 1>where he he seems kind of invisible at times. And listen,

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<v Speaker 1>he is a clear number two to Jamar Chase. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>not forget that. But you didn't pay him like a

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<v Speaker 1>clear number two. You paid him like a one a.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're gonna pay him like a one a,

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<v Speaker 1>then you better find a way. I mean, honestly, you

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<v Speaker 1>better throw four jump balls to him again just to

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<v Speaker 1>get him extra targets. In my opinion, If not, why

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<v Speaker 1>did you resign him?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you see Yoshi's snaps declining? And if so, who

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<v Speaker 2>assumes those snaps?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a great question because we you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>asked both Pitch and I think Zach either Monday or today,

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<v Speaker 1>and we ask Pitch today of you know, do you

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<v Speaker 1>still have confidence Andre? And they both expressed their confidence.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't expect them to say anything otherwise publicly, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard not to. I mean that last play is

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<v Speaker 1>an example of kind of how his years gone. He

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get much separation. It was a contested catch. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we can agree with that. It was not a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he wasn't wide open. It wasn't wide open

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<v Speaker 1>because he didn't get separation, and then it was a

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<v Speaker 1>contested catch that he couldn't quite haul in. He's had

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<v Speaker 1>some issues with some drops. I mean, it's hard not

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<v Speaker 1>to like the kid, but at some point life has

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with this. I can't imagine you don't

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<v Speaker 1>give Mitchell Tin's a little bit more on. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it'd be silly not to, just because you know, Andre's

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<v Speaker 1>not producing, and you know, I think there's a there's

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<v Speaker 1>a role where they'd like to get Jermaine Burton on

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<v Speaker 1>the field, and Jermaine keeps probably stubbing his foot to

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<v Speaker 1>on the field, and so there's that issue and so

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's really it's either Mitchell Tinsley or him. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean maybe if Mike Kasicki was healthy, you could might

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<v Speaker 1>put Mike in that role, but Mike's not healthy. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the next man up would be Mitchell Tinsley.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think you need to see more of that,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, last question. They're three and five, there's nine

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<v Speaker 2>games left. I saw a new win total today posted

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<v Speaker 2>for them at seven and a half. If you were

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<v Speaker 2>Terry Rozier, would you bet over or under on that total?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? The other thing is I don't have control of

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<v Speaker 1>It's like Terry had totals, man, I mean, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>one thing he had gone for me. He could determine

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<v Speaker 1>what those totals were going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be five, and that'd be five and four

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the way to go over.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think they. I think they do because I

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<v Speaker 1>think they win this week. I think Flacco is at

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<v Speaker 1>least back for the Pittsburgh game and they have a

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<v Speaker 1>schot to go there. Believe it or not, they win

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<v Speaker 1>this week. There is a world in which pitt Sburg

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<v Speaker 1>is four and five and the Bengals are four and five,

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<v Speaker 1>playing at Pitts first, first place, or at least to

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<v Speaker 1>keep the raven Heck, the Ravens might be four and

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<v Speaker 1>five at that point two, but you'd be playing head

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<v Speaker 1>to head to see which one of you goes to

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<v Speaker 1>five and five. That's the goofy part. I mean, nine

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<v Speaker 1>wins can win this division. The question is then you're

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<v Speaker 1>asking can they hit the seven and a half? Can

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<v Speaker 1>they get denying there's a world where they can. There's

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<v Speaker 1>also a war where they win two more games the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the way because this defense is just so horrific.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, what are you working on? And how can

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<v Speaker 2>listeners read and watch all you have going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, just go to Local twelve dot com slash sports.

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<v Speaker 1>I got the Joe Flacco story up today and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the confidence they again have in Jake Browning, and

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<v Speaker 1>then tomorrow Lance I did this today. I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>post today if the Joe flacko who's had to come out.

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<v Speaker 1>I redrafted the Bengals first three picks this year just

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<v Speaker 1>because I wanted to just see who you could go with,

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<v Speaker 1>and it took me in a direction where it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>completely off base. And the three picks make a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot of sense, and it makes you wonder what are

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<v Speaker 1>they doing in the draft through one draft night?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I can't wait. I will read it at Local

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<v Speaker 2>twelve dot com. You're a good man. I appreciate the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. All Right, there you go, Richard Skinner. Check

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<v Speaker 2>it in tonight.