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Speaker 1: This is Skyline Chile sincey three to sixty about Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Feeling good, It's Skyline time. This is ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Hello and welcome in Sincy three sixty on ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. My name is Austin Elmore. Happy to be

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Speaker 2: with you on a beautiful Tuesday afternoon, officially afternoon here

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Speaker 2: October fourteenth on CINCY three sixty, and happy to be

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Speaker 2: back on the airwaves after a long weekend, a much

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Speaker 2: needed vacation, a getaway to football's greatest cathedral, lambeau Field.

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Speaker 2: I got to spend a bunch of time at a

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Speaker 2: bunch of days up in Green Bay and in the

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Speaker 2: surrounding areas and had a great time. I'll talk a

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Speaker 2: little bit about that coming up later on at on

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Speaker 2: o'clock today, we'll talk to Joe Daniman from Fox nineteen,

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Speaker 2: joining us as he normally does on a Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: At one pm.

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Speaker 2: We'll obviously talk Bengals with him, and there's a lot

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Speaker 2: to get to because it is a hectic short week

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Speaker 2: for Cincinnati getting ready to host the Pittsburgh Steelers, and

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Speaker 2: what is like actually the season, like the season actually

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Speaker 2: comes down to this game. It's one of those pivot points,

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Speaker 2: it's one of those turning points. It's a gateway to

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Speaker 2: the rest of the season for the Bengals, and we'll

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Speaker 2: get into that extensively. Phone lines are also open at

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Speaker 2: five on three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty if you

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Speaker 2: want to call in and be a part of the

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Speaker 2: show and break down everything that happened over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like a Monday show for me since

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Speaker 2: I wasn't here yesterday. By the way, thank you to

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Speaker 2: Chad for filling in. Certainly not easy to do it

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Speaker 2: and I do it appreciate him doing that. So Sincy

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Speaker 2: three sixty, everybody wants to know, Okay, what's it gonna

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Speaker 2: And to be honest, I didn't really know what I

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Speaker 2: picked both a great time and a terrible time to

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Speaker 2: But I met with leadership here today and the plan

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Speaker 2: Moe kind of hinted at this a little bit last week,

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Speaker 2: I was told earlier today. And while we're all still

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Speaker 2: sad and upset and confused about Tony being laid off,

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Speaker 2: I am ex to be able to have an opportunity

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Speaker 2: and thankful that iHeart allowed me to have this opportunity.

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Speaker 2: And my bosses are trusting me with this show because

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Speaker 2: it's really easy to just say, all right, we're done,

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Speaker 2: and they're giving me an opportunity, and I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: And I've heard so many nice things. People have written

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Speaker 2: How long will I have this chance, I don't really know,

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Speaker 2: but I am going to give it everything I've got

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Speaker 2: And if you're new here, and if you don't exactly

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Speaker 2: it really quickly. I started here in twenty eighteen, almost

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Speaker 2: There's room for everybody in being a sports fan and

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Speaker 2: And so I want to appeal to all people. You

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Speaker 2: But also at the same time, I have a craving

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Speaker 2: me personally, have a craving to understand why and how

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Speaker 2: And I want you to have a voice a as well.

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Speaker 2: I'm open to your suggestions and what you like or dislike,

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Speaker 2: Is while I do believe that everybody has their own

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Speaker 2: I'm getting old now. I'm over thirty years old, so

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that that pretty much sums it up.

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Speaker 2: But that's what's cool about this show. Here in Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: last two months or last month without Joe Burrow and

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Speaker 2: with Jake Browning and with Joe Flacco. If you establish

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Speaker 2: right away this is who we are by beating the

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers, and then you got the next two at

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Speaker 2: home before the bye, this is it. And if you don't, well,

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Speaker 2: that then opens up Pandora's box of what the future

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Speaker 2: of the Bengals looks like. Are you trading Trey Henderson,

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Speaker 2: Are you're trading cam Taylor Brick can't even say that

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Speaker 2: with a straight face. Are you letting some guys go?

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Speaker 2: Are you benching some dudes? Are you firing some coaches?

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Speaker 2: Are you full on rebuild if you can't beat Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: because it will be a tough hole to climb out

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Speaker 2: of after that. This is it, man, and the intensity

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Speaker 2: And it's not easy to play on a short week

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Speaker 2: because they got to play on a short It's not easy.

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Speaker 2: Not saying it's easy, but this is it. What more

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Speaker 2: could you ask for? You're right where you need to be.

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Speaker 2: Outside of Joe Burrow, You're pretty healthy. We'll see what

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Speaker 2: the reports are on Trey Hendrickson. I would imagine Dylan

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Speaker 2: Fairchild's going to be able to go. Maybe Lucas Patrick,

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Speaker 2: maybe Shamar Stewart got an opportunity. Are you gonna take

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Speaker 2: advantage of it or not? This week tells us a

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Speaker 2: lot about the Bengals, if they win and if they lose,

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Speaker 2: About the mentality of the organization and the front office,

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Speaker 2: about the mentality of the coaches and the coaching staff

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Speaker 2: and the players. This week tells us a lot. They

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Speaker 2: have gotten up off the mat better than I expected

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Speaker 2: them to. And the first half in Green Bay look

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Speaker 2: like a quarterback who got here five days ago, and

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Speaker 2: so I'm cutting them a little bit of slack. Second

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Speaker 2: half look like, Okay, this is more what it's supposed

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Speaker 2: to look like. Can they do that consistently with an

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Speaker 2: extra few days at home in what should be a

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Speaker 2: crazy environment. I'm sure a bunch of Steelers fans will

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Speaker 2: show up. Can the Bengals do it? Can you beat

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Speaker 2: a team that you're right there on par with as

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Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned talent wise?

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Speaker 5: Can you?

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Speaker 2: Because if so, you got a chance. And if not, well,

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Speaker 2: then we start turning the page to the next era

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Speaker 2: of Bengals football. I'm not ready to do that. I

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Speaker 2: don't want to do that yet. You shouldn't either. Phone

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Speaker 2: calls next. This is ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 6: fifteen thirty, the official home of this Cincinnati Bengals. Loegar.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about this a lot. He's got what you want, like,

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Speaker 4: He interviews, his views and your calls.

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Let's get your reaction to everything talked about

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Speaker 2: through the first thirty five minutes of the show. Let's

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Speaker 2: start in Cincinnati with Ian.

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 7: Ian?

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Speaker 8: Hey, what's up? Man?

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Speaker 9: I just I'm gonna make it short because I know

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Speaker 9: you got people time.

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Speaker 10: To take care of.

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Speaker 9: But like I told mo Man last week, in today's

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Speaker 9: world of technology and the competition, I wonder if the

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Speaker 9: letting go of Tony was a kind of a big

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Speaker 9: corporate deal where they don't really see the treasure that's

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Speaker 9: inside of itself locally and what the show really meant.

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Speaker 8: Because I can't really understand.

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Speaker 9: He's such a strong personality and you guys sing together

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Speaker 9: and it's just something that you could feel.

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Speaker 11: And I thought on that I'll say a couple of

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Speaker 11: things and.

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Speaker 8: Then I'll let you talk.

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Speaker 12: But it's I wonder is there. Could he come on

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Speaker 12: as a guest and almost like a segment. You know,

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Speaker 12: he's not higher, but that would be something cool once

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Speaker 12: the dust settles or something. I don't know if he

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Speaker 12: would feel into that or not.

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Speaker 5: But uh, there's that.

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Speaker 8: It's just that that's.

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Speaker 9: A high value and I don't see why they would

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Speaker 9: just let that go.

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Speaker 13: I'm puzzled by that.

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Speaker 11: Number two. I'm going to continue to listen to your

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Speaker 11: show because frankly, you're one of the best speakers locally

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Speaker 11: and I would even say nationally. Your cadence, your tone

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Speaker 11: of voice is very easy, and your intelligence.

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Speaker 5: About the sports.

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Speaker 9: So I want to give you your due, man, your props.

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Speaker 9: And then the comment about the Bengals as far as like,

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Speaker 9: I agree with you, man, you started to see it

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Speaker 9: like happen, like.

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Speaker 11: Okay, here's the engine. Hey, if you get Shamar back,

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Speaker 11: it's possible. I mean, I think that dude could develop

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Speaker 11: into a game changer. And if that's true, we might

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Speaker 11: be cooking with gas. So I'm just wondering your thoughts.

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Speaker 9: But I just well, I know it's been said to

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Speaker 9: you a thousand ways till Sunday, but I mean, it

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Speaker 9: is what it is, man, they let him go.

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Speaker 2: But uh, you know, well, Ian, thank you for the

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Speaker 2: kind words and thank you for the call. I do

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Speaker 2: appreciate it. I don't know if that's a possibility, I

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Speaker 2: would lean towards no right now. I would never rule

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Speaker 2: it out. I don't know. Many people have suggested that.

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Speaker 2: I just it's too early to tell. There's dust that

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Speaker 2: needs to settle and then figure it out from there.

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Speaker 2: But I do appreciate the kind words, and that means

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Speaker 2: a lot to me. But yes, defensively, the return of

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Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart could be huge in this game, especially if

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Speaker 2: Trey is not one hundred percent. If Trey is battling

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Speaker 2: that back injury, which could be difficult on a short week,

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Speaker 2: snaps might be managed anyways. And up against the Steelers

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Speaker 2: offensive line that's certainly far from perfect. And if you're

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Speaker 2: just able to get that one extra sack per game,

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Speaker 2: or to get them behind the sticks one more time

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Speaker 2: per game, it can unlock a lot for your defense.

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Speaker 2: And I think where there has been a trend in

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Speaker 2: the right direction ever so slightly over the last month

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Speaker 2: probably has been the Bengals third down defense. It's not great,

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Speaker 2: and oftentimes it's third and seven or less, which is

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Speaker 2: a difficult situation to be in. But we're starting to

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Speaker 2: see a little bit more pressures. We're starting to see

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Speaker 2: some different looks from Al Golden and the personnel has

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Speaker 2: changed a lot throughout all of that. So if they

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Speaker 2: can get that a little bit more consistent, maybe that's

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Speaker 2: a big thing. Any game, especially in the AFC, nor

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Speaker 2: third downs are critical, and I would expect that to

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Speaker 2: be the case for the Bengals defense.

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Speaker 3: Go to Boston, talk to John.

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Speaker 5: What's up, John Austin, Good afternoon. How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm all right, man, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 14: First of all, congratulations, I wish you well. You're going

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Speaker 14: to do a fantastic job, and I encourage all the

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Speaker 14: listeners to remain loyal to you.

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Speaker 5: You do a fantastic job.

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Speaker 14: As a prior caller said, your cadence, your knowledge is outstanding,

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Speaker 14: yourself deprecating, great sense of humor.

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Speaker 5: I think you're going to do just fine. To make

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Speaker 5: sure the loyal.

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Speaker 14: Listeners of Cincinnati stick with you, because I think you're

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Speaker 14: a great listen from twelve to three every day. The

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Speaker 14: only criticism I have before I get to my points

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Speaker 14: is I'm sixty two. Please don't tell me you are,

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Speaker 14: you know, Olden, thirty two or whatever.

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Speaker 2: You are, just making sure people are paying attention. I'll

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Speaker 2: try to sneak that in there for some folks.

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Speaker 5: I heard that, I'm like sixty two.

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Speaker 14: I'd love to be thirty two or whatever you are.

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Speaker 5: I'm not even sure with your agents, but early.

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Speaker 14: Thirties, let's just call it that. I'm like, man, that

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Speaker 14: would be fantastic. I trade that anytime. So don't go there.

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Speaker 14: You've got a lot, a lot of time to give,

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Speaker 14: and we look forward to listening to you as far

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Speaker 14: as the game on Thursday night. I mean, the problem

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Speaker 14: I'm seeing with the Bengals since number nine went out

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Speaker 14: is they're not.

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Speaker 5: Able to score points in the first half.

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Speaker 14: They've gone four straight games without a first half touchdown.

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Speaker 14: The last first half touchdown came in Week two when

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Speaker 14: Borrow hit Chase in the first quarter. That game against

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Speaker 14: Jacksonville even scored a touchdown in.

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Speaker 5: The first half.

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Speaker 14: Since so those three touchdowns against Detroit kind of felt

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Speaker 14: like garbage time, you know, like an NBA game where

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Speaker 14: someone's up twenty seven, they hit some threes in the

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Speaker 14: final scores eleven. But I think in Green Bay the

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Speaker 14: game is a little closer and it's Flacco. You feel

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Speaker 14: more confident in Flacco maybe potentially doing that in the

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Speaker 14: first half as well, And now you've got a chance.

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Speaker 14: If this team's not motivated Thursday night with what they've

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Speaker 14: gone through, then there's a bigger issue than we know about.

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Speaker 14: They could come out flying on both sides of the ball,

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Speaker 14: and as far as the path, look, if they can

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Speaker 14: win Thursday night, then you've got a mini buy with

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Speaker 14: the Jets coming in, You've got the Bears coming in,

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Speaker 14: and then you got to buy. I mean, if you're

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Speaker 14: four and five going into the buy, you're still alive

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Speaker 14: because you pointed it out perfectly, Austin, there's no team

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Speaker 14: in the AFC that looks unbeatable for sure, And I

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Speaker 14: know I'm delusional. I still think Borrow's coming back, and

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Speaker 14: I think you'd come back sooner.

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Speaker 9: Rather than later.

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Speaker 14: But you know, we can all hope for that, But yeah,

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Speaker 14: I think there is a path there. Thursday night is

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Speaker 14: obviously the way to kick it off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right there with you, and we would all

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Speaker 2: love for Joe to come back, and John, thank you

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Speaker 2: for the kind words and the phone call. I would

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Speaker 2: love for that to happen, don't. You just can't operate

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Speaker 2: under the assumption that it will. You've got to put

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Speaker 2: yourself in a position to where, Okay, Joe can come

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Speaker 2: back and he can have an impact, and you know,

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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco obviously would then be the backup quarterback. But

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Speaker 2: you're right, you're two and four and you've got short

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Speaker 2: week Pittsburgh, New York, Chicago by Pittsburgh again. Can you

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Speaker 2: get the five and four at the bye? You know

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Speaker 2: what this team was after week nine and twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 2: five and four. You know what they were at the bye,

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Speaker 2: week nine, after week nine, twenty twenty two, five and four.

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Speaker 2: That can be done. It's not abnormal. And obviously the

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Speaker 2: whole idea of a fast start has been washed away

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Speaker 2: in a sense because of losing the four straight and

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Speaker 2: just where the offense is at. But I like the

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Speaker 2: trends I'm seeing. I like the way Flacco operated the offense.

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Speaker 2: Another few days at home, it's gonna be I would

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Speaker 2: think easier for him.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: The other question is, well, TJ. Watts on the other

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Speaker 2: side and Alex high Smith is on the other side,

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Speaker 2: and Pittsburgh's defense is not easy. But Joe Flacco knows

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Speaker 2: that he's aware of that. He's played against him many times,

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Speaker 2: played against TJ many times. It's on Zach, it's on

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Speaker 2: Dan Pitcher, it's on the offense to come up with

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Speaker 2: a way to make things easy on Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 3: And maybe that means.

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Speaker 2: You know the quote that a lot of people are

651
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Speaker 2: talking about right now, Jamar Chase after the game said

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Speaker 2: that he kind of changed the play call, changed the

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Speaker 2: route because of the way the DB's were jumping the routes.

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Speaker 2: That's great. I live for that sort of stuff. I

655
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Speaker 2: want to know those details. Does that mean? Shouldn't it

656
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Speaker 2: mean to you or to me? To anybody else? Jamar

657
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Speaker 2: Chase has a bigger voice on the offense. You know,

658
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Speaker 2: we don't give Jamar enough credit for being a really

659
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: smart football player, extremely smart. You know, we see him

660
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: dancing and he's funny and he's got that laugh and

661
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Speaker 2: he's kind of at times guarded in his responses to

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Speaker 2: the media, but then at other times he's he's very

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Speaker 2: open and he's honest, he's refreshing, and he thinks a

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Speaker 2: lot before giving answers. It's because he's a really smart guy,

665
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: really smart dude. Maybe he needs a little bit more

666
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Speaker 2: control of the offense. Anybody opposed to that idea. Let's

667
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Speaker 2: go back to the phone. Its five one, three, seven,

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Speaker 2: four nine, fifteen thirty. Let's go to Covington. Talk to Chris.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Chris?

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Speaker 5: What's going on? Austin?

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Speaker 15: How you doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm good man. What's on your mind?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 16: I just want to, uh, you know, tell you that

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Speaker 16: you know you put out in great commentary or intelligent

676
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Speaker 16: and you you've got insightful so and you you tell it, You.

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Speaker 3: Tell it for what it is.

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Speaker 16: I mean, you're you're for real, and you're I don't

679
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Speaker 16: know what happened to Tony.

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Speaker 5: I really don't. I don't know what's going on in

681
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Speaker 5: that situation.

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Speaker 16: But you know, as far as six three sixty, I'm

683
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Speaker 16: listening every day and I don't care. You need to,

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Speaker 16: You need to, you know, just take over this thing

685
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Speaker 16: and run it, and run it the way you want

686
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Speaker 16: to run. As far as the Begels are concerned, what's

687
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Speaker 16: gonna what's the matter if you trayed entersaying our bricks.

688
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Speaker 16: I don't think it's gonna matter anyway, you know what

689
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Speaker 16: I mean.

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Speaker 3: Just what you can for them now and move on.

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Speaker 16: You know, that's what we used to do when I

692
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Speaker 16: was working. I'm retired now, and you know we used

693
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Speaker 16: to just say, well, this guy ain't gonna work out,

694
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Speaker 16: We'll move on, We'll get somebody else in here, you

695
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Speaker 16: know what I mean. That's that's just the way the

696
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Speaker 16: business is. But as far as the show is concerned,

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Speaker 16: I'm listening every day, Bud, and.

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Speaker 5: I love it. I love you, and you do. You

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Speaker 5: do a great show. I love your insight and your commentary.

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Speaker 3: Chris. Thank you, man, I really I appreciate that. Thank

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Speaker 3: you very much.

702
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Speaker 2: And and we'll get into some trade conversation a little

703
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Speaker 2: bit later on, because again, I think the result of

704
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: this game determines the direction you want to take. And

705
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 2: nobody wants the season to be over before Halloween. That's

706
00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 2: you know, it's difficult for everybody. But you know, Treys

707
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 2: on a one year deal, essentially, you wouldn't get a

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Speaker 2: crazy return from him, especially if he's a little bit

709
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: banged up and he hasn't maybe played to his standard

710
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 2: to this point, which I know somebody who maybe told

711
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 2: you that was gonna happen, I don't know, But either way,

712
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 2: he has value and you need draft picks and he

713
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: takes some money off the books. These are the ways

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Speaker 2: you have to start looking at the future of the

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Speaker 2: Bengals and what you decide to do. If you get

716
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: to this point and you're two and five and the

717
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: season's basically over, and you lose a home primetime game

718
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Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh on a short week, these are the conversations

719
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 2: that start to be had because if you're already gonna

720
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Speaker 2: start playing the young guys, the Barrett Carters, the Demetrius Knights,

721
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Speaker 2: the Dylan Fairchild's, the Jalen Rivers, you're committing to Okay,

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Speaker 2: we're investing in these in these young players, we're investing

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Speaker 2: in rebuilding this team a little bit. How can we

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Speaker 2: pivot to continue that trend? Trading Trey Henderson is one

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Speaker 2: of those things. More on that in just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Mike in La.

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Speaker 8: What's up, Mike, Hey, dude, do you enjoyed Green Bay?

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Speaker 3: I loved it, man. It was the coolest thing I've

729
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Speaker 3: ever gotten to do.

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Speaker 8: I've never been to that town. What's it like? Is

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Speaker 8: it about the side of Dayton or something.

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Speaker 2: I would say it's a little smaller than Dayton. I'd

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Speaker 2: say it's like between Vandelia and Dayton. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if the number, I don't know the exact population numbers,

735
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 2: but yeah, it's it's the area that lambeau Field is

736
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Speaker 2: at is surreal. It's it's just a town and then

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Speaker 2: there's this cathedral.

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Speaker 8: I often wonder didn't know it was just a little

739
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Speaker 8: I know it wasn't a tiny town like Lebanon or something,

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Speaker 8: but I've just never been through there. I've been through

741
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Speaker 8: Wisconsin any times, but I've never been been up there,

742
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Speaker 8: and I always just wanted to restrive to and check

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Speaker 8: it out.

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Speaker 5: Never got to do it anyway.

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Speaker 8: So you had a good time, that's.

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Speaker 5: The own thing.

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Speaker 3: Mm hm, Yeah, it was. It was a great time.

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Speaker 8: Hey, Joe and Austin, you were talking about your sixty two. Dude,

749
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Speaker 8: I was in Vietnam when you were ten, so you

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Speaker 8: ain't that old. You're kind of young. Joe wept behind

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Speaker 8: the ears. Hey, Austin, I wonder whatever. I haven't heard

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Speaker 8: Jeff from Virginia call in a long time.

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Speaker 17: You know.

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Speaker 3: I saw Jeff.

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Speaker 2: I saw Jeff in Virginia in Green Bay. He was

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Speaker 2: doing great.

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Speaker 8: Oh hell yeah, yeah, he gets around that guy does

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Speaker 8: he does.

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Speaker 3: Man, he's got a lot going on.

760
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Speaker 8: He's a mobile Flasella.

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Speaker 5: Hey, I don't mean to be negative.

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Speaker 8: I did want to talk about the baseball for a second,

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Speaker 8: but I don't want to be negative about the Bengals.

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Speaker 8: But I don't see them. If they win five games,

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Speaker 8: I'll crap. Okay, here's the The reality is, we still

766
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Speaker 8: haven't mastered the art of drafting. Because Joe and Jerr

767
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 8: were kind of thrown on our lap. We still got

768
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Speaker 8: the same online, we still got the same defense. Now

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Speaker 8: we haven't totally immobile quarterback who can throw it, but

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Speaker 8: he's totally there's no chance of brun and our running

771
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 8: game still blows. Well, what are they going to do

772
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Speaker 8: about this running game?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's a great question, Mike, thank you

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Speaker 2: for the phone call.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: I don't know how they fix it. Is Dalton rise Near.

777
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Speaker 2: The answer is Jalen Rivers. The answer is Dylan fairshild

778
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Speaker 2: Lucas Patrick. They ran the ball good for seven snaps

779
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Speaker 2: when Lucas Patrick was healthy. We've said it many times,

780
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 2: the key to this offense is running the football. Because

781
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: running the football equals a complimentary football team. You're able

782
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 2: to control the clock, you're able to impose your will.

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00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: You're able to keep the defense off the field, You're

784
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 2: able to stay ahead of the chains, You're able to

785
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 2: make the defense. Guess it unlocks more in play action

786
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Speaker 2: running the football. In my opinion, and I think most

787
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 2: across the league would share, this is the key to

788
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 2: offensive success. Now, when you have Joe Burrow and you

789
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: line up five wide and you got dudes on the outside, yeah,

790
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 2: you can win that.

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00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: You can win that way. We've seen the Bengals win

792
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 3: that way.

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Speaker 2: But in order to truly compete, you need a consistent,

794
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: independable running game. Bengals have had that in the past,

795
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Speaker 2: and they've been deep into the playoffs with it. More

796
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Speaker 2: phone calls when we get back ESPN fifteen thirty, Wise.

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati, make us die hard miss an episode of since

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Speaker 2: Sneaking up all one o'clock ESPN fifteen thirty, hour one

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Speaker 2: nearly in the books. To start hour two, we'll talk

802
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Speaker 2: to Joe Danaman, Fox nineteen, who waved at me from

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Speaker 2: the field at lambeau Field on Sunday. I mean, of

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Speaker 2: all the things I got to experience in Green Bay

805
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Speaker 2: being waived at by Joe Daneman towards the top of

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Speaker 2: the list. Let's go back to the phones while we

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Speaker 2: have a couple of minutes. Let's go to Crystal in

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Speaker 2: Cole Rain. What's up, Crystal, Hey, how are you doing today?

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Speaker 5: I'm good?

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Speaker 3: What's on your mind?

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Speaker 18: Just a long term Bingals fan. My me and my

812
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 18: family split season tickets and my sister is going to

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00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 18: be taking her grandson down to the white out on Thursdays.

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Speaker 18: So it's to be exciting, but we we can't do

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Speaker 18: run Run pass today, Thursday night, Saturday or Sunday. I

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Speaker 18: was like, okay, run run pass. We all know what's

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Speaker 18: gonna happen. But I understand that slack I was new

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00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 18: when we were trying. He was trying to get his

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Speaker 18: feet wet, and because the second half looks so promising,

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Speaker 18: I really host that he has some autonomy to uh,

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Speaker 18: you know, run the offense and call from audibles, and

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Speaker 18: that we're gonna let him do that. The second thing

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Speaker 18: is is, you know, we we've had a couple I mean,

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Speaker 18: we've had some successful seasons with with the with Zach.

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Speaker 18: I get that, but I think it's time that we

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Speaker 18: had an offensive play caller. I think it's time for

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Speaker 18: him not to be. I think he's got to do

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Speaker 18: us on his plate. I don't think we're getting a

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Speaker 18: bank for a buck with that. I think that we

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Speaker 18: need to develop someone on the offensive coaching team to.

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Speaker 19: Call his play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Crystal, thank you for the phone call. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure a lot of people agree with you. And play

834
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Speaker 2: calling has been a huge issue for a lot of

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Speaker 2: Bengals fans over the years, and Zach even hinted it

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Speaker 2: at maybe letting it go. I remember before Brian Callahan

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Speaker 2: was hired to be the coach of the Titans, Zach

838
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: talked about how or after Brian was hired, he talked

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Speaker 2: about how he was considering giving up play calling. He

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Speaker 2: kind of hinted at it earlier. But I don't expect

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Speaker 2: that to change. I don't maybe it should. I would

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Speaker 2: like to see what Dan Pitcher or Justin Roscotti could

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00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 2: do calling plays. But I do believe Zach when he

844
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: says it's a collaborative effort and Monday through Saturday, they're

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Speaker 2: putting it all together on how to, you know, call

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Speaker 2: the plays and what plays they want to call. In

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Speaker 2: that situation, I think Zach needs to be better at

848
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Speaker 2: getting it out quickly and allowing a veteran quarterback like

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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco to assess things from the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 3: I can see that.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people would be on board

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Speaker 2: of the play calling change, but I don't think it's

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Speaker 2: it's realistic to expect that to happen. Just to be

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Speaker 2: completely honest, I don't think it's realistic to expect that

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Speaker 2: to happen. We'll take a break, we'll come back. When

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Speaker 2: we do, We'll talk to Joe Daniman from Fox nineteen.

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Speaker 2: After that, we have talkbacks. We've got football in the

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Speaker 2: Hi, Hello, welcome in our number two of Cincy three sixty.

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Speaker 2: Here on ESPN fifteen thirty. I am Austin Elmore with

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Speaker 2: you until three o'clock today. We'll turn things over to

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Speaker 2: Moe Eggar then four. I believe he's at Oakley Greens.

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Speaker 2: This is a typical Tuesday for Mo, and we'll talk

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Speaker 2: to him a little bit later on, But right now

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Speaker 2: we don't talk to Mo. We talked to Joe as

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Speaker 2: we always do on Tuesdays around this time. Joe Danoman

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Speaker 2: joining Cincy three sixty.

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Speaker 5: Hi Joe, So Austin.

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Speaker 13: I'm standing in the end zone on Sunday at lambeau Field.

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Speaker 13: It's a timeout, third quarter, and I hear someone yelling

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Speaker 13: hey Danoman from the stand, and I turn her out

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Speaker 13: and look, and it's the gentlemen from the Detroit game

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Speaker 13: who stood up and yelled yeek stands up at lambeau

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Speaker 13: Field goes yee, And so I get a good flab

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Speaker 13: about that, and then another guy who rows in front

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Speaker 13: of him stands up and yells ye man, sixty three

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Speaker 13: point sixty for the full takeover a lambeau Field. How

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Speaker 13: about that.

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Speaker 2: That is so cool to hear that, and it was

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Speaker 2: really cool to be at lambeau Field. It was especially

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Speaker 2: cool in the second half when the Bengals showed signs

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Speaker 2: of life. Did they unlock something in the second half, Joe,

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 13: I mean, if nothing else, they unlocked a little bit

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Speaker 13: of hope for the Bengals fan base and a little

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Speaker 13: bit of optimism going into Thursday Night. And I know

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Speaker 13: you've talked about it. I've talked about it, anybody who

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Speaker 13: follows this team has talked about it. Now that Thursday Night,

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Speaker 13: all of a sudden, fields like the ALBUMO for this season,

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Speaker 13: like this is the last shot and the Bengals are

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Speaker 13: going to do this thing. You can't lose five games

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Speaker 13: in a row, you can't drop the two and five.

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Speaker 13: But if you do get to win with the schedule

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Speaker 13: opening up a little bit here in the middle part

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Speaker 13: of the season, it feels like there's a shot here

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Speaker 13: on Thursday Night, But yeah, I think you have to

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Speaker 13: leave that game feeling optimistic about the way it looked.

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Speaker 13: And I equate it like this because I've watched and

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Speaker 13: covered this team for such a long time and I

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Speaker 13: can't explain it other than you get this feeling sometime

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Speaker 13: in the fourth quarter that Okay, this team is about

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Speaker 13: to do this.

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Speaker 5: I've seen this before. I know what this feels like.

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Speaker 13: And when the Bengals got the two point conversion and

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Speaker 13: got it to six points and then got the Packers

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Speaker 13: in the third down and seven and you can feel

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Speaker 13: it in the crowd, a kind of a nervy feeling

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Speaker 13: and a murmur throughout lambeau Field. I'm like, here it

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Speaker 13: comes a Bengals stop and they get the ball back,

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Speaker 13: and what a story it'll be when Joe Flacco leads

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Speaker 13: them down the field and win and they win the game.

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Speaker 13: They didn't get that done yet, And I still think

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Speaker 13: that's where this team the question are going forward. Can

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Speaker 13: they finish games? Can they win games in the fourth quarter?

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Speaker 13: But with him throwing him being Joe Flacco, him throwing

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Speaker 13: the ball twenty times to Jamar Chase and t Higgins,

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Speaker 13: him having chemistry with Jamar instantly in that second half,

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Speaker 13: I think you have to look positive about the way

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Speaker 13: this could be and could play out in the second

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Speaker 13: half of the season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think when you look at the offense,

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Speaker 2: you obviously see the jump in the age of Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 2: But on the defense, they're getting younger Logan Wilson basically benched,

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Speaker 2: is the best way to say it. For Barrett Carter

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Speaker 2: and Demetrius Knight Junior, and maybe even a little bit

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Speaker 2: less of Orrin Bergs. What do you make of that

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Speaker 2: decision to go with the young guys on defense, especially when,

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Speaker 2: as you mentioned, they're looking for something out.

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Speaker 3: Of that group.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: I think I saw a stat the other day there

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Speaker 13: are only seven starting linebackers who are rookies in the NFL,

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Speaker 13: and the Bengals basically have two of them, two of

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Speaker 13: the se across the league, which is pretty astounding. I

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Speaker 13: think it all goes back to this team trying to

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Speaker 13: be more of a playmaking defense, and I think there

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Speaker 13: are things that Barrett Carter can give Al Golden that

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Speaker 13: maybe Logan Wilson can't. And you look back to what

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Speaker 13: this team is now six weeks into it, you start

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Speaker 13: to see the thumb print of Al Golden.

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Speaker 5: You know, through two.

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Speaker 13: Weeks you can go back and look at the stats,

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Speaker 13: the Bengals weren't blitzing at all, and now the blitz

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Speaker 13: rate has gone up significantly, and I think Barrett Carter

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Speaker 13: gives them more juice in the blizz game than a

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Speaker 13: Logan Wilson does, and so certainly I think that's a

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Speaker 13: reason why Al Golden wants to use him more. The

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Speaker 13: third down defense has been better in the last few weeks.

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Speaker 13: You're seeing more looks, you're seeing more of Al Golden's

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Speaker 13: trying to manufacture pressure, and so I think those are

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Speaker 13: those are reasons why you're seeing Barrett Carter play. I'm

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Speaker 13: all for I'm all for a youth movement. Barrett Carter's

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Speaker 13: made mistakes, is going to make mistakes. Demetrius Knight, I

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Speaker 13: think has been exactly what I thought he would be.

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Speaker 13: He's been really solid, hasn't been perfect, but I like

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Speaker 13: what his future looks like. So I agree with this

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Speaker 13: on what the Bengals are doing. Logan Wilson will still play.

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Speaker 13: Logan Wilson can still help the Bengals win. But if

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Speaker 13: this team is trying to find guys who can be

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Speaker 13: somewhat splashy and the playmakers, while Barrett Carter will make mistakes,

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Speaker 13: I think Barrett Carter gives them more in the blitz

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Speaker 13: game and in the game of trying to manufacture pressure,

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Speaker 13: and I think it should be exciting for Bengals fans

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Speaker 13: that if Trey Hendrickson's able to play Thursday night and

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Speaker 13: Sjamar Stewart's able to play, now you see what it

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Speaker 13: looks like with this team having two defensive ends who

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Speaker 13: can be difference makers in the backfield, especially for a

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Speaker 13: Pittsburgh offensive line that I think ranks in the bottom

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Speaker 13: four or five in the NFL and past win rate

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Speaker 13: when you look at those kind of numbers. So I

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Speaker 13: think it goes back to Austin trying to find ways

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Speaker 13: to be more dangerous in the blitz game, and I

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Speaker 13: think Barrett Carter gives them more of a weapon than

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Speaker 13: Logan Wilson does in that part of the game.

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Speaker 2: When you use that logic of going to the young

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Speaker 2: guys and seeing what they can do. Should that also

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Speaker 2: be applied to replacing Cam Taylor Britt because it doesn't

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Speaker 2: feel like he's going in the right direction.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, at this point it does. It does feel like

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Speaker 13: that's probably the right move. It's such an odd thing

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Speaker 13: and it's a hard thing to figure out. Listen, I

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Speaker 13: can tell you that the guy wants to be good.

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Speaker 13: He does everything right to be good, and that's what's frustrating.

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Speaker 13: About it because we've seen it be good before and

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Speaker 13: there's no reason to believe that everything he does and

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Speaker 13: tries and says to be good just isn't.

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Speaker 5: Clicking, isn't working.

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Speaker 13: And at this point and it's it's almost as okay, uh,

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Speaker 13: somebody else has to play, somebody else needs to be

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Speaker 13: given a shot, and uh yeah, I think.

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Speaker 7: I think that's the move.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 13: The really surprising part of the Bengals defensive backfield is

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Speaker 13: is DJ.

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Speaker 5: Turner and how well he's played.

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Speaker 13: I think if you go back and you play the

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Speaker 13: tape back Austin, of everything we talked about and everything

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Speaker 13: everybody said about what training camp looked like DJ Turner

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Speaker 13: was what kind of the guy that people were throwing

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Speaker 13: darts at that that he was going to be the problem.

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Speaker 13: He was not performing well in Bangals training camp, and

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Speaker 13: through six weeks he's been.

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Speaker 5: Very good for this team.

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Speaker 13: So they've got that part of it settled. Down to

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Speaker 13: your question, I think, yeah, I think it's time at

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Speaker 13: this point to look at somebody else because Cam Taylor

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Speaker 13: Britt It's just it's going in the wrong direction and

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Speaker 13: I don't know how it gets fixed because it's not

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Speaker 13: like it's not important to him. And it's not like

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Speaker 13: it's he's not trying to be better at this point.

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Speaker 13: It's just you'd wonder if it, if it can get better,

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Speaker 13: what else can he do to play better football?

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 13: I don't know if it's in there, and so yeah,

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Speaker 13: I would try someone else.

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Speaker 2: Jamar Chase is really good. Have you ever seen or

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Speaker 2: been around or covered a player quite like him?

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Speaker 13: Jamar Chase is very unique in the fact that I

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Speaker 13: don't think he's given enough credit for his football I Q, yeah,

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Speaker 13: And I don't know why that is, because you know,

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Speaker 13: when you talk to him, he's he's a fun guy, right,

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Speaker 13: He has a has a fun laugh, He's interesting. He

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Speaker 13: can be entertaining in press conferences, and I don't know

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Speaker 13: why people uh don't don't understand or sometimes and maybe

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Speaker 13: this is outside of the fan base, maybe the fan

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Speaker 13: base understands it when they listen to him and you

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Speaker 13: really pay attention to a lot of things he says,

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Speaker 13: and you know about changing plays and and figuring things out.

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Speaker 13: I think he's I think he's a football genius, and

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Speaker 13: football genius.

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Speaker 5: Has come in different ways.

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Speaker 13: I think his ability to see things differently, to suggest

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Speaker 13: things and also at the same time, in the middle

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Speaker 13: of a play, able to manipulate defenses with his body

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Speaker 13: placement and.

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Speaker 5: What he's able to do with that.

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Speaker 13: That to me, seeing angles and that, that to me

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Speaker 13: is what makes him different. But I think I think

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Speaker 13: he's a very intelligent football mind outside of being a

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Speaker 13: complete freak. When it comes to athletic ability. His athletic

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Speaker 13: ability is off the charge.

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Speaker 5: Again.

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Speaker 13: You see it when he goes against you know, the

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Speaker 13: top one percent of athletes uh in the NFL who

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Speaker 13: played defensive back, and he can make them look bad,

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Speaker 13: and he can make them look slow, and he can

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Speaker 13: make their angles look terrible.

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Speaker 5: That that, to me is what makes him so special.

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Speaker 13: But then you add on the fact that he's such

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Speaker 13: an intelligent football mind that maybe a lot of people

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Speaker 13: don't really get a chance to see or digest. But

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Speaker 13: I encourage people to listen to him and he talks

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Speaker 13: and what he talks about. I think that's a difference

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Speaker 13: maker in his game as well. And I think that

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Speaker 13: can really help Joe Flacco. You can talk about, you know,

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Speaker 13: speeding up the process of chemistry. It took a half

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Speaker 13: for Joe Flacco to figure out that. Jamar Chase and

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Speaker 13: he had chemistry. And that was asked to about Jamara

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Speaker 13: and Joe Flacco in the week leading up to him

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Speaker 13: making his first start in Cincinnati. Was he looked back

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Speaker 13: to twenty twenty three and that great chemistry that Joe

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Speaker 13: Flacco had with Amari Cooper. Can that happen again with

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Speaker 13: Cincinnati's wide receiver number one. I think we answered that

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Speaker 13: question pretty quick. Now, can they start pushing the ball

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Speaker 13: down the field and making bigger plays down the field?

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Speaker 13: I asked Jamar about it. He said, listen, it's been

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Speaker 13: one week. We're still building. We'll get there kind of thing.

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Speaker 13: But at the same time, I think it's hard not

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Speaker 13: to be excited about what that combination can look like.

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Speaker 13: Considering he threw the ball to him twelve times and

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Speaker 13: ten of them were caught, including them kind of coming

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Speaker 13: up with play on the fly. That's what happens when

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Speaker 13: you have good chemistry, and I think you're seeing that

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00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 13: pretty quickly between those two.

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Speaker 2: With that being said, and you know what Jamar said

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00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 2: after the game about kind of changing a play or

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00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 2: kind of talking about the way the corners were going.

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00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 2: Should should Jamar or does he maybe have more of

1089
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:21,439
Speaker 2: an impact or a say in the offense than maybe

1090
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Speaker 2: we realize. And is that something that that Zach Taylor

1091
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 2: should lean into a little bit more?

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Speaker 13: Well, I think the one thing and I you know,

1093
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 13: it's to read the room thing kind of here in Cincinnati,

1094
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 13: and I get it. I understand the criticism of Zach Taylor,

1095
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 13: and Zach understands the criticism as well in this league.

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Speaker 13: But I think the one thing that Zach does very

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00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 13: well always has is empowering his players. He has he

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00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 13: has specific individual meetings with players more often than people realize,

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Speaker 13: and especially with his captains and Jamar Chase being one

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Speaker 13: of those guys, they talk a lot. And that's why

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Speaker 13: when a moment like what has happened a couple of

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Speaker 13: weeks ago happens, it doesn't fracture a relationship that Zach

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Speaker 13: and Jamar have.

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Speaker 5: I think he listens to Jamar a lot. He would

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00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 5: be foolish not to.

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Speaker 13: I believe he empowers guys like Jamar Chase, like t Higgins,

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Speaker 13: like Joe Burrow, like the important players on this team

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00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 13: to be voices in what they're trying to do.

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00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 5: He would be foolish not to.

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Speaker 13: So I think that's always been one of Zach Taylor's

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00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 13: strengths is him empowering his players, and by doing that,

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Speaker 13: it allows guys like Jamar Chase who have that kind

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Speaker 13: of feel for the game, have that iq for the game,

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Speaker 13: have moments like he did on Sunday with Joe Flacco

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00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 13: to go invent a play and make it up and

1116
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Speaker 13: let it happen. And I think that's important for Jamar

1117
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Speaker 13: to have that kind of freedom. And I think Zach

1118
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 13: Taylor's always enabled him to have that kind of freedom,

1119
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Speaker 13: especially as he's gotten older and more experienced in the

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Speaker 13: NFL and what he's doing. But I do think that's

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Speaker 13: a big part of what Zach Taylor does here at Cincinnati.

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00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 2: Talking to Joe Danaman, Fox nineteen look ahead to Thursday night,

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Speaker 2: Obviously some injuries and maybe still up in the air

1124
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 2: the status of Shamar Stewart and Trey Hendrickson as you

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00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 2: talked about earlier. But what's your expectation, Like, what is

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Speaker 2: the biggest thing the Bengals have to do in order

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00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 2: to ensure a victory against the Pittsburgh Steelers on Thursday night?

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Speaker 13: In the unction, Hey, I had teenagers they're calling Thursday

1129
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 13: ninety unction. They called me unk as well, which is hilarious.

1130
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, my guys, I'm dad.

1131
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:39,959
Speaker 5: I'm not your unk, but hey.

1132
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 13: I'm in the same age bracket as Aaron Rodgers and

1133
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 13: Joe Flacco, these these forty year old dudes. Man, he's

1134
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 13: gonna be fun on Thursday night. How much are they

1135
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 13: going to talk about that on the Thursday as they should?

1136
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 13: As they should? But yeah, I get it.

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00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 19: So here here's my thing.

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Speaker 5: On Thursday night.

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Speaker 13: Everybody knows how big of a game it is. Everybody

1141
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 13: inside the BANNGLS locker room, how big of a game

1142
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 13: it is. We were ten minutes after the Green Bay

1143
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 13: game and Jamar Chase and Joseph Osai and Chase Brown,

1144
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Speaker 13: all of these guys are talking about Thursday night because

1145
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Speaker 13: I think a lot, like a lot of people listening.

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01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 5: To this, they felt rejuvenated.

1147
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 13: They felt re energized by what happened in the second

1148
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 13: half and kind of getting that feeling back that they

1149
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 13: were in the fourth quarter against the playoff team with

1150
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 13: a chance to win, and it's probably going to happen

1151
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 13: again this Thursday night. I assume that the Steelers will

1152
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 13: be in the mix to be a playoff team in December.

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01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 5: The way they started the season.

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01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 7: So here we go, big game.

1155
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 13: Now what needs to happen for the Bengals to be

1156
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 13: successful in that game? And I think is kind of

1157
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 13: the sneaky takeaway of the Green Bay game is that

1158
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 13: Joe Flacco isn't afraid just to throw the ball at

1159
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 13: somebody's feet when it's not there. Isn't just chucking the

1160
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 13: ball down the field and hoping someone makes the play

1161
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 13: or hoping it falls incomplete. We saw it last night.

1162
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 13: It gets you beat when you turn the ball over.

1163
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 13: We saw what Jake browning. It gets you beat when

1164
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 13: you turn the ball over. Joe Flacco didn't do that,

1165
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 13: and Joe Flacco only took one back. That was the

1166
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 13: other big talking point was that here you got this

1167
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 13: forty one or forty year old guy playing quarterbacks behind

1168
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 13: an offensive line that gives up too many pressures. He

1169
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 13: throws the ball away, He didn't take sacks against the

1170
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 13: team in Green Bay that can get to the quarterback

1171
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Speaker 13: and get him on the ground.

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Speaker 5: So those two things are going to be massive.

1173
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 13: For me on Thursday night at ten, the Bengals limit

1174
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 13: the number of times Joe Flacco is touched and sacked,

1175
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 13: and can Joe Flacco limit the number of times that

1176
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 13: he forces balls or commits the turnover. If he doesn't

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01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 13: turn the ball over and the Bengals are able to

1178
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 13: protect him at a reasonable cliff, the Bengals are gonna

1179
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 13: have a great.

1180
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 5: Chance of winning it.

1181
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 13: And I also think the sneaky other part of what

1182
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 13: happened in Green Bay on Sunday is and I won't

1183
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 13: say they unlocked it, but Chase Brown found a little

1184
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 13: bit right.

1185
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 7: It was better.

1186
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 13: It was better. I kind of liked the idea that

1187
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 13: the Bengals were tossing him the ball to the outside,

1188
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 13: getting them in space, letting him pick and choose a

1189
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 13: spot to really attack, and he found some success on

1190
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 13: the edge a little bit. In the run game, it

1191
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 13: felt a little bit more of a sixty to forty

1192
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 13: split with Ace Brown and some IJP right in that game.

1193
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 13: I don't roll what the snap looked like, but it

1194
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 13: felt better in.

1195
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:21,439
Speaker 20: The run game.

1196
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Speaker 13: Going forward, I think the Bengals have a great shot

1197
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 13: on Thursday night, and I think they understand the importance

1198
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 13: of this game. To me, it's going to come down

1199
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 13: to this offensive line and Joe Flacco not making mistakes

1200
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:34,919
Speaker 13: and not taking negative plays.

1201
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 2: Last question before I let you go. Brian Callahan was

1202
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 2: fired by the Titans. His dad, Bill has since resigned

1203
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 2: from the Titans staff as well. We know how close

1204
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 2: Brian and Zach are. Do you think there's any possibility

1205
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 2: that there's some sort of a reunion between them this year? Sure?

1206
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, but you know the idea that that

1207
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 13: comes with a ripple effect, that comes with a butterfly effect.

1208
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 13: Can you bring him back in the room, bring him

1209
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 13: back into the stadium and and that not upset the

1210
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 13: apple cart speaking of the rest of the offensive staff,

1211
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 13: that if you bring him in or are you going

1212
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 13: to affect chemistry, You're going to affect ego. I would

1213
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 13: think here in Cincinnati that the kind of culture that

1214
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 13: Zach Taylor likes to talk about, that that wouldn't be

1215
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 13: the case. That you can bring him in here and

1216
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 13: you can help you win games. Certainly, I think that

1217
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 13: has to be considered. I think there's a world where

1218
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 13: Brian Callahan can help this team. I think it would

1219
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 13: be fun. I think it'd be great. I think it

1220
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 13: should be explored and look at it's the first thing

1221
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 13: I thought of. I'm sure it's the first thing a

1222
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 13: lot of us thought of when that happened, is like

1223
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 13: bring him back?

1224
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 5: Why not?

1225
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 13: But I understand you know that that comes with the

1226
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 13: dynamic of putting that voice, a guy who had a

1227
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 13: certain position inside of this organization back into it. And

1228
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 13: Tys kind of look over the shoulder, like, wait a minute,

1229
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 13: you know what's my role if for bringing this guy

1230
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 13: back in? So I under stand out that's a conversation

1231
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 13: that's part of it. But just from the outside looking

1232
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 13: in of a guy that can help this team, has

1233
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 13: helped this team in the past, can come in and

1234
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 13: be another voice, why the heck not?

1235
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Speaker 5: I think it could help.

1236
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 2: Great stuff. Joe Danoman, Fox nineteen, Thank you for your time.

1237
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 2: What do you got coming up?

1238
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 13: So this week is a big week. Thursday Night yep.

1239
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 13: Obviously the Bengals on Thursday Night Football.

1240
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 5: As soon as the.

1241
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 13: Game ends, we go live with Bengals Breakdown. We do

1242
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 13: our full thirty forty five minutes show. You'll see Zach Taylor,

1243
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 13: you'll see Joe Flagel, you'll hear from players inside the

1244
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 13: locker room. Thursday Night, immediately after the game, get it

1245
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 13: to Fox nineteen. We go full Bengals takeover right after

1246
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 13: Thursday Night Football.

1247
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 19: And then Austin I don't know if you've looked up.

1248
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 13: There's two weeks left in the high school football season. Crazy,

1249
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 13: two weeks left before teams get to the playoffs. So

1250
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 13: we're going big on Friday night with our final quarter

1251
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 13: and then everything is full go from here on out

1252
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 13: with Bengals and Bearcats. And what a season you see.

1253
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 13: And we have college basketball starting up in a couple

1254
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 13: of weeks.

1255
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 3: This is a good time.

1256
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 13: Man, it never stops.

1257
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 3: There are no downtimes.

1258
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 18: We roll, we go.

1259
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 5: Hard, and I can't wait for this thing to keep going.

1260
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 2: Man, love it. Joe, thank you, Man, take it easy.

1261
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 2: Joe Danoman from Fox nineteen. Yeah, it's gone so fast.

1262
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. High school football almost wrapping up, get

1263
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 2: into the playoffs and basketball before be here, before you

1264
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 2: know it. I've seen a little bit of NBA preseason

1265
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 2: action and obviously the I think the College Basketball ap

1266
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 2: Top twenty five pole came out earlier today, so we

1267
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 2: are not wasting any times. High expectations across the Tri

1268
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 2: State when it comes to the college basketball teams here

1269
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 2: as well. Joe mentioned Fox nineteen's postgame coverage. I got

1270
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 2: some more postgame coverage for you Thursday night, right here

1271
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 2: on this radio station until the wee hours of the morning.

1272
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 2: Yours truly, I'll be hosting the postgame sports talk show

1273
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 2: both here and on seven hundred WLW simultaneously following the

1274
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 2: Bengals and Steelers on Thursday Night football. We'll take a break,

1275
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 2: we'll come back. It'll be talkback time right here on

1276
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1278
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Speaker 2: A little bit difficult not to sabotage uh these days,

1284
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 2: but talkbacks will give you a shot to.

1285
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Speaker 3: Uh make your voice heard.

1286
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1290
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1292
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1293
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Speaker 2: that interview as we speak here, and everything you missed,

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01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 2: whether it's me, whether it's Mo, whether it's Bengals conversations,

1299
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 2: It's all right there on the iHeart Radio app. Let's

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01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 2: get started, Hello, Addie, Jim and Milford.

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Speaker 22: Hi Jim, Hey, what are the Bengal fans gonna wake

1302
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 22: up and realize Chase Brown is the worst running back

1303
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 22: we've ever had. I don't want to hear about the

1304
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 22: O line and everything because p run runs hard and

1305
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 22: gets five six seven yards. Audie, who do you think

1306
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 22: the worst running back in Bengal history is?

1307
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 2: Probably good John at Carter, definitely not Chase Brown. That's

1308
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 2: kind of a dumb statement, Jim.

1309
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 23: Audie, this is Steve down here in Parkland, Florida. I

1310
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 23: just wanted to say, you know, I'll definitely mistne hopefully.

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01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 3: I don't know.

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01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 23: Is it in a contract somewhere or anything that you

1313
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 23: guys cannot have your own weekly podcast so we can

1314
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 23: all tune in and still get a taste of the

1315
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 23: good old days. Looking forward to see what you do

1316
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 23: with the show over the next years and decades to come.

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01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 7: You're the best thing this station has.

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01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Steve, I appreciate that.

1319
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 21: Well, it's no secret how we all feel about TV fifteen,

1320
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 21: but often you have to move forward regards it's a circumstance.

1321
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 21: I believe you're going to do a good job as

1322
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 21: you have in the passes day on business, and you

1323
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 21: have my support. Bengals offense looked much better in the

1324
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 21: second half. I know we've all talked about that. So far,

1325
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 21: Flaco's teemed to settle win there. Looking forward to just

1326
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 21: Thursday night, I think they can win this game. It's

1327
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,679
Speaker 21: definitely a must win in my opinion too, So take

1328
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 21: care of everybody and who day on.

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01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 2: Well, Kevin, thank you, I appreciate that. And yeah, I

1330
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 2: do think you know the point that Daneman made at

1331
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 2: the end there about how the offense and the players

1332
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 2: in the locker room seemed to feel a little bit

1333
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 2: rejuvenated because of the way the offense performed in the

1334
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 2: second half. That gives you some excitement, some belief, somebody, Okay,

1335
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 2: we can do this like this is possible to be

1336
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 2: able to get it done even without Joe Burrow and

1337
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 2: with a new quarterback.

1338
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 24: I started listening to this show many years ago, and

1339
01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 24: being a huge Tony Pike fan, Live and die Cincinnati Sports.

1340
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 24: I tell you I had to stop listening all of

1341
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:12,799
Speaker 24: last week after hearing the news. But you know, Austin,

1342
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 24: that's not fair to you. So you know what, I'm

1343
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 24: back and let's go.

1344
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 3: Well, thank you. I appreciate that, and I hope I

1345
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 3: can make it worth your while.

1346
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 25: Hey, Austin, Josh, hebron's up. Josh, I just wanted to

1347
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 25: say that I will be continuing to listen. I trust

1348
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,719
Speaker 25: your judgment. You do what you think is best. Although

1349
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 25: listening to you and Tony, your banter and your contagious

1350
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 25: laughter was really awesome.

1351
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 7: That's gonna be missed.

1352
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 25: It was like listening to a buddy cop movie. So anyways,

1353
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 25: Cheers Tony, cheers with Jim Kelly, Yes, and cheers to you,

1354
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 25: Austin gret Well.

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01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 2: Thank you, Josh. I appreciate that. I'm glad you brought

1356
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 2: up Jim Kelly. I'm gonna talk about him a little

1357
01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:59,759
Speaker 2: bit in the in the next.

1358
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 15: Yes, the Bengals should absolutely trade Tray and get something

1359
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:05,879
Speaker 15: out of him before.

1360
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 7: They inevitably let him walk in the offseason for nothing.

1361
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 7: And they should also trade te too.

1362
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 15: I mean, this roster is built the wrong ways, not

1363
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 15: how you build a championship team.

1364
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 7: And just a week ago we said we couldn't name

1365
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 7: ten guys in the roster that we're any good or

1366
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 7: that we'd like to keep. And now because we traded

1367
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:25,600
Speaker 7: for Joe Flackaum or somehow ring of the playoffs. No,

1368
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 7: and people might not like this, but what you can't

1369
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 7: do is say that I'm lying.

1370
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know that you should trade

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01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 2: Trey Henderson right now. I think you should at least

1372
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 2: see what happens with the Pittsburgh Steelers game. Yeah, And

1373
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 2: I'm not ready to say, based off of the other

1374
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 2: teams in the AFC North and based off of the

1375
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 2: other teams kind of in the same area as the Bengals,

1376
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 2: that the playoffs are out of reach. I simply don't

1377
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 2: believe that. Now, if you can't beat Pittsburgh, maybe it's

1378
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 2: a different story, but I refuse to believe that the

1379
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 2: playoffs are completely out of reach.

1380
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:04,560
Speaker 3: I disagree with you on that.

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01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 26: Hey, Austin Ken from the lext Year, let me add

1382
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 26: my congratulations, as I'm sure everybody else will happy for you,

1383
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 26: hate it for Tony. I'm going to miss the guy,

1384
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 26: but I'm sure you'll do well. And I'm sure that

1385
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 26: Tony will land on his feet because he's a very

1386
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:31,560
Speaker 26: likable and talented guy. So again, congratulations and hude, go

1387
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 26: Reds and go big Blue.

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01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 2: Ken, appreciate it. You're exactly right, Tony will land on

1389
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 2: his feet. Looking forward to that, and appreciate all your

1390
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 2: support over the years.

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01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 27: Ken, Yeah, Thursday's crucial. If the Bengals win Thursday, everything

1392
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 27: would be be all right, big f okay, I like

1393
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 27: Dax Hill, DJ Turner, like you said, Cam Taylor, BRIT's

1394
01:12:56,280 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 27: a disaster. They need to run there. Get this offensive

1395
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 27: line tranked up a little bit more. I have a

1396
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:09,719
Speaker 27: good afternoon, Austin.

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01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 3: Thank you appreciate it.

1398
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 15: And there's a big difference between being a biased fan

1399
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 15: with hope and being an honest broker about what you

1400
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 15: are seeing and what this team actually is. And the

1401
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:31,799
Speaker 15: honest fact is this team is not good enough to compete,

1402
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 15: especially Mountain term Flack.

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01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 7: The roster is not good enough. So it's time to

1404
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 7: make some changes. Let's be honest.

1405
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 2: I don't feel like anybody thinks that the roster is

1406
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 2: good enough to fully compete. I think that's fair to say.

1407
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,560
Speaker 2: I think most people would agree with you there. But

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01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 2: the level of competition is based off of the level

1409
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:57,719
Speaker 2: of competition. There are other teams with holes, with injuries,

1410
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 2: with issues in the af and so when you look around,

1411
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,440
Speaker 2: it's not crazy to think that the Bengals can be competitive.

1412
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 2: I get where you're coming from, and I appreciate you

1413
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 2: giving your opinion and what you feel is the truth.

1414
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 2: But the Bengals do have talent. There are question marks,

1415
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 2: there are concerns, there are injuries, no doubt, But can

1416
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 2: you get production out of Shamar Stewart, can you get

1417
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 2: production out of Trey Henderson? And can you at any

1418
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:31,799
Speaker 2: point have a decent run game or a decent offense

1419
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 2: in and of itself? And if you can, I don't

1420
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,679
Speaker 2: think it's out of the realm of possibility to actually

1421
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:38,759
Speaker 2: compete in the AFC.

1422
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:39,679
Speaker 3: That's the point.

1423
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 2: The point is less about the Bengals exactly, and more

1424
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 2: about the offense or the conference as a whole. When

1425
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:49,520
Speaker 2: the rest of the AFC.

1426
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:51,719
Speaker 3: Both not healthy.

1427
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 7: Sorry, that's my quarterback.

1428
01:14:58,360 --> 01:14:59,560
Speaker 5: That's my broadcast.

1429
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 28: Peanut Butter and Jelly iPhones and Ats, Tony and Audi.

1430
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 28: Great combinations that came to an end way too soon.

1431
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 28: Oh day, go Flato. You guys are a great combination.

1432
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 2: Hey message, thanks man, appreciate you. Peanut Butter and Jelly

1433
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 2: is still around though.

1434
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 3: Well, congratulations Austin.

1435
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 29: Look forward to listening to you at this time slot

1436
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 29: when I have the opportunity and I'm right there with you.

1437
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 29: I'm hoping they can do bake it to five and four.

1438
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 29: That this team seems like that they have to be

1439
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 29: like the underdogs to get something done. I don't it's

1440
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 29: the craziest thing over if it's this coach or I

1441
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 29: don't know what it is, but they feel like they

1442
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 29: got to be beaten up on and everybody give up

1443
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 29: on before they can come out and prove everybody or wrong.

1444
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 29: I hope they'd do it again.

1445
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm right there with you.

1446
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 5: What's up?

1447
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 3: Loss is Joe Baltimore?

1448
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,640
Speaker 30: So Joe, seeing what I says all on Sunday, I

1449
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 30: feel like we have something we can build on.

1450
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 10: I have a really good feeling about Thursday night, and

1451
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 10: maybe I'm wrong.

1452
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 5: Maybe I'm on hopium, but I just.

1453
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 20: Got a funny feeling that We're gonna go out and

1454
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 20: finally get a win and be a big one, be

1455
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 20: too and own in a division with a chance to

1456
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 20: write the ship for the rest of the year.

1457
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 5: Can't wait.

1458
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 3: Whoda thank you?

1459
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 17: GP fifteen Addie V MWG. Often I know Tony's not there,

1460
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:35,560
Speaker 17: How to do that one last time? I know a

1461
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 17: lot of people have waited in phone calls, talked backs,

1462
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 17: et cetera.

1463
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:40,719
Speaker 3: Did I hated for Tony?

1464
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:42,759
Speaker 17: I hated for you, hated for since he three sixty,

1465
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 17: I hated for the Tony Move Football Show.

1466
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 3: Dude bummed.

1467
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 17: But man, I just want you to know, and I'm

1468
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 17: sure a lot of people have mentioned this, we got

1469
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 17: your back, man, keep doing what you do.

1470
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 3: We're here for you. Thank you. I appreciate that, man.

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01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 3: Appreciate all the kinds, really do.

1472
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 30: I got a question about your thoughts on the draft

1473
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 30: and the Bengals draft strategies. How much weight do the

1474
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 30: Bengals give to drafting from big programs rather than taking

1475
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 30: the best player that's available, even if that player may

1476
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 30: be from a small school.

1477
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 5: Thank you?

1478
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt like a couple of years ago, they

1479
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 2: put a big emphasis on that team captains big schools,

1480
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 2: big programs, guys with college experience. I don't know if

1481
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 2: it's as much of that the last couple of years.

1482
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 2: I felt like they've taken a few more risks. But

1483
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 2: you know, like one of the reasons they talked about

1484
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 2: drafting Demetrius Knight Junior was his ability going back and

1485
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 2: forth from you know, a place like Coastal Carolina to

1486
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 2: South Carolina and his veteran presence and having seen a

1487
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 2: lot of football and played a lot of football and

1488
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 2: those types of different types of conferences. So I do

1489
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 2: think they put a lot of value on that. I

1490
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 2: don't know if that's always a good thing, because there

1491
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 2: are plenty of players from smaller schools in the NFL

1492
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 2: that are successful. To me, it ultimately comes down to

1493
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 2: was this player productive or not at the college level.

1494
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 2: And that's why I'm still skeptical of Shamar Stewart. I

1495
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 2: think it would be fair to say we're all skeptical

1496
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 2: of Shamar Stewart's ability. You know, it was part of

1497
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 2: the reason why we were all skeptical to pick to

1498
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 2: begin with, because this was due to a big program

1499
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 2: with not so much production. Yeah, he was disruptive, but

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01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 2: didn't produce. And so to me, it's like, Okay, does

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01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 2: a player produce at that level? If you're gonna go

1502
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 2: to a big program, that's fine. Did he produce at

1503
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 2: a big program? I would like to see a little

1504
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:47,600
Speaker 2: bit more of that being weighted by the Bengals.

1505
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 3: Often.

1506
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 31: Welcome back, man Hoop, you had a great trip up

1507
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 31: in the Bay of Greenness. Did you happen a way

1508
01:18:56,840 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 31: that Andrey josabash and see if he could catch the ball?

1509
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 3: And he dropped like four or five passes?

1510
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 5: I right to him?

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01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 3: Any really welcome back?

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01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 7: Whod No?

1513
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 3: I didn't wave it at Andre. I can't say that

1514
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 3: I did.

1515
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 32: Austin Almore, it's Boomer Drew from South Bend. Congrats on

1516
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 32: the show. Long lived, Tony Pike. Austin, You're exactly right. Yeah,

1517
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,639
Speaker 32: seven minutes is left in the game, six minutes, five minutes.

1518
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 32: I'm screaming at the top of my lungs. No sense

1519
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 32: of urgency or down fourteen? What the hell are we

1520
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 32: doing here? I couldn't believe it. You know, you got

1521
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 32: to use that time wisely.

1522
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 7: And he just doesn't do it.

1523
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 3: He just doesn't have any situational awareness. Thanks man, Good

1524
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 3: luck to you. Thank you.

1525
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 2: I mean, there's nothing in the NFL that goes faster

1526
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 2: than the eight minutes to go in the fourth quarter

1527
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 2: to the four minutes to go in the fourth quarter,

1528
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 2: and next thing you know, the game is in the balance.

1529
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 2: And I understand that you're there with Joe Flacco and

1530
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 2: he just got there, and there's a lot of stuff

1531
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 2: that maybe you don't know, but I would imagine the

1532
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:05,639
Speaker 2: first thing you put in is the two minute offense.

1533
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 2: What are you comfortable with? How can we get to

1534
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:09,560
Speaker 2: this point because you're going to need it at some

1535
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 2: point in a game. And they took their time, they

1536
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 2: were getting the call into the huddle, they're setting the protections,

1537
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 2: and it's just tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick,

1538
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 2: and you're erasing any chance you might have. Whereas if

1539
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 2: you go quicker and you're able to get some points

1540
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 2: on the board, maybe you get another possession, maybe you

1541
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 2: don't put it all on one possession for the defense,

1542
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 2: and you still were you were missing a time out

1543
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 2: at that point, so you need as much extra time

1544
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 2: as you can get. It drove me nuts. I did

1545
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 2: not like that from Zach I was screaming at the

1546
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 2: game to hurry it.

1547
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 10: Up, Austin, and oh yeah, Well, anyways, I think you

1548
01:20:54,400 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 10: got some tigers that have any You know what happens

1549
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 10: when a tiger has a neat.

1550
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:06,639
Speaker 21: And this is the NFL.

1551
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 10: Man, you can only lose so many before you get

1552
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 10: a win.

1553
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 3: Let's go, thank you. I think. Hey, it's Mike and

1554
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 3: del Hi.

1555
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 7: How you doing, Austin.

1556
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,560
Speaker 33: I'm still pretty sad about the whole Tony thing, and

1557
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 33: I miss you, Tony, and I missed the dynamic you

1558
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 33: guys have together, and I wish you the best, Tony.

1559
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 33: And I gotta admits kind of taking the song out of.

1560
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:36,600
Speaker 7: My dance and.

1561
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 33: I don't know if I can even imagine singing any

1562
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 33: more to this little talkback, but I'll tell you what,

1563
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 33: I'll still listen to you, Austin. Love you still, Man, Good.

1564
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 3: Luck, Thanks Man, appreciate it. Hello, not doing that today?

1565
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 34: Hey, Audie, mic and Independence here. You missed my Ghostbusters

1566
01:21:58,560 --> 01:21:59,639
Speaker 34: talk back last week?

1567
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 7: I was pretty good.

1568
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 3: Go back and take a listen.

1569
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 34: But I've listened to talk radio since Greg and Mo

1570
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 34: were on together and then Greg left, Moe was by himself,

1571
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 34: does an awesome job obviously. And you know, at first

1572
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 34: started listening to you, I was a little skeptical, but

1573
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 34: you've grown on me and I love listening to your show.

1574
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 34: Now you're gonna do an awesome job.

1575
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 7: Have a good one, buddy.

1576
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate that, Mike really appreciate it.

1577
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 20: As always repping the city out here in Sonny, hot Zona.

1578
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 20: What up, hotty, my g you are the man now

1579
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 20: in your hand.

1580
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:30,759
Speaker 3: You are the voice of three sixty.

1581
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 20: If you are the voice of us top backers, I'm

1582
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 20: lock in everything you do. Man, It's gonna be a

1583
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 20: little rough without Tony p but.

1584
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 5: You got this.

1585
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 3: We got your back.

1586
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 20: Bengals. We winning sun Thursday, Sorry, y'all Thursday, We definitely

1587
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 20: win it. I can see flack of throwing three touchdowns

1588
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 20: by two point fifty.

1589
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 3: Sorry about the background noise. Bengals will win.

1590
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 2: Who they has a lot going on in that talk

1591
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 2: back right there, Ronnie, ron But uh yeah, okay, he

1592
01:22:57,160 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 2: said three touchdowns two hundred and fifty for Joe Flacco. Okay,

1593
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 2: I'm in favor of that. Get the ball out quickly,

1594
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 2: Let YouMore go to work. By the way, keep an

1595
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 2: eye off for my dad over there. Ronnie Rawm, my

1596
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:10,640
Speaker 2: dad's running around in Arizona.

1597
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 35: Hey, Austin, Jeff and your Richmond very well deserved that

1598
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 35: you're going to be taking over the show. I think

1599
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 35: you're going to do an awesome job. You know we've

1600
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 35: butted heads over the years, but still consider your friend

1601
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 35: and love listening to you. I was curious about your producer, though,

1602
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 35: who is that going to be? Is it going to

1603
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 35: be Drew or someone else? Thanks, it's a good question.

1604
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 35: Still looking for the answer to that question. Sometimes it's

1605
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 35: going to be me by myself, I think, sometimes it's

1606
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:48,640
Speaker 35: going to be Drew. Don't know, don't know exactly what

1607
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 35: that what that's going to look like, but I do

1608
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 35: appreciate it. Jeff, And if we don't butt heads all

1609
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 35: the time, we just all agreed with each other all

1610
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 35: the time, wouldn't be as fun.

1611
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:59,759
Speaker 3: Space Monkey here, Oh what's up? Space Monkey?

1612
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 36: I mean for my day job and listen to a

1613
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 36: lot of sports talk radio, and you are by far

1614
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 36: one of the better hosts I've listened to throughout the

1615
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 36: years of traveling and listening to sports radio. We're going

1616
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 36: to miss TP fifteen, but you do great, Attie, keep

1617
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 36: it up, good work. And just be confident.

1618
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 9: Man, you got it.

1619
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 2: Well that's very kind. Space Monkey, thank you, I appreciate that.

1620
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:29,560
Speaker 2: Are you any relation to brass Monkey? Nobody thought that

1621
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 2: was funny.

1622
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll take a break, we'll come back.

1623
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 2: Football in the Natti is next on ESPN fifteen thirty,

1624
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 2: maxed out on credit cards, Strutch you.

1625
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 6: In part by Budlight and by Oakley Greens on ESPN

1626
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,879
Speaker 6: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1627
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit of college football. For Football

1628
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 2: in the Natti. Unless you've been living under a rock,

1629
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 2: you don't know. CINCINNTI Bearcats now in the top twenty five.

1630
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 2: That's right, one spot ahead of Nebraska. Coming in at

1631
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 2: number twenty four are the Bearcats following the win over

1632
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:10,639
Speaker 2: Central Florida. And oh, by the way, they just got

1633
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 2: a big flip. They flipped outside linebacker Evan Weinberg out

1634
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 2: of Springboro High School. He was previously committed to Central Michigan. Well,

1635
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 2: now he's making his commitment to the UC Bearcats. Isn't

1636
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 2: that amazing what winning can do. On top of that,

1637
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 2: Brendan Soresby has been named to the Johnny Unitas Golden

1638
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:35,600
Speaker 2: Arm Award Top twenty five, which is great news for

1639
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 2: Britain Soresby continuing his tremendous season and rest of the

1640
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 2: college football Top twenty five. Ohio State is still number one.

1641
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 2: Indiana moves up four spots to number three. Alabama is

1642
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 2: at six. Texas Tech probably the best team in the

1643
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 2: Big twelve. Undoubtedly the best team of the Big twelve.

1644
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 2: They're up two spots to number seven. Loregon is eight,

1645
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 2: Georgia nine, LSU Brian Kelly ten. They move back into

1646
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 2: the top ten after being number eleven last week. Notre

1647
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:08,560
Speaker 2: Dame Marcus Freeman. They're up three spots to number thirteen.

1648
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 2: It is BYU at number fifteen. They're up three spots

1649
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:17,639
Speaker 2: and USC into the top twenty five after a big

1650
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 2: win over Michigan. That's gonna be a fun game this

1651
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 2: week in USC at Notre Dame. And rounding out the

1652
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 2: top twenty five twenty is USC twenty one, Texas twenty two,

1653
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 2: Memphis twenty three, Utah, twenty four, Cincinnati and twenty five Nebraska.

1654
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 2: Others receiving votes Illinois, Michigan, Washington, UNLV, Navy, Mississippi State, Tulane,

1655
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 2: and San Diego State. So the Bearcats back into the

1656
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 2: top twenty five, and they certainly have earned it. There's

1657
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 2: no doubt about it. They should be in the top

1658
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 2: twenty five, and they have everything set in front of

1659
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 2: them to be able to go on a bit of

1660
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:00,520
Speaker 2: a run. By the way, if you're wondering about homecoming,

1661
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 2: that Baylor game in which they are going to honor

1662
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 2: Big TP fifteen for going into the UC Hall of Fame.

1663
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:10,839
Speaker 2: Kickoff for that game announced as a four pm kickoff

1664
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 2: at Nippert Stadium. I haven't talked about this yet, haven't

1665
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 2: said much about it. Just it's tough, man, because Jim

1666
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 2: Kelly passed away yesterday, and I'm thinking of Moe and

1667
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:30,560
Speaker 2: Dan and Tony and others who were so close to

1668
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 2: Jim over the years. And I admittedly I didn't know

1669
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:36,680
Speaker 2: Jim that well. We'd only spoken once or twice, but

1670
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 2: was always a really nice guy and would hear from

1671
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 2: him occasionally some really nice things. And I admittedly didn't

1672
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 2: know that much about his impact on UC athletics until

1673
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 2: the last couple of months, and Tony had kind of

1674
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 2: told me about it and kind of knew what was

1675
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 2: going on behind the scenes, and it kind of explained

1676
01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 2: just how deep the roots are at the University of Cincinnati,

1677
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 2: and obviously learned a lot about him. But it's funny

1678
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 2: when I think of Jim Kelly, I don't think of

1679
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:11,799
Speaker 2: Jim Kelly the play the color commentator on UC basketball.

1680
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 2: I don't think of Jim Kelly, the bear Cat legend.

1681
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 2: I remember clear as day this moment where I was

1682
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 2: in Hyde Park and I don't know what I was

1683
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 2: doing down there. I think I had gone to like

1684
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 2: the Sincy shirt store when it was down there, and

1685
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 2: then I went over to like Corporate and got a

1686
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 2: cup of coffee or something. I got ice cream, I

1687
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 2: don't remember what it is. And I hear music playing

1688
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 2: from that little area in the middle of Hyde Park

1689
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 2: Square where you know, you got the benches and the

1690
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 2: fountain is there. And I hear this music playing and

1691
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 2: I look over and sure enough, it's Jim Kelly. And

1692
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 2: he didn't we didn't know each other really at that point.

1693
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:54,720
Speaker 2: I knew who he was, and so I just kind

1694
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 2: of sat there and drank my coffee or my ice

1695
01:28:57,720 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 2: I want to say it was coffee, it doesn't matter.

1696
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 2: Just listened to Jim Kelly play music on a beautiful day,

1697
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 2: Hyde Park Square, nicest guy in the world, just out there,

1698
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 2: kids running around, families, just a perfect day. And here's

1699
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 2: Jim Kelly playing his guitar, playing music on this picturesque

1700
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 2: moment at Hyde Park Square. That's the first thing I

1701
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 2: think of anytime somebody says the name Jim Kelly. And

1702
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,320
Speaker 2: it was really cool to see that the tributes to

1703
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 2: him yesterday and to hear MO talk about it while

1704
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 2: he was on with James and Dan posted a lengthy

1705
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 2: Facebook post today which was cool, and he shared that

1706
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:45,679
Speaker 2: just sad man sad that things kind of happened so quickly,

1707
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 2: and cancer just sucks and we all know somebody affected

1708
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 2: by it in some way, shape or form, and obviously

1709
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 2: just a heartbreaker to see that happen with Jim and

1710
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 2: bear Cat. I know Scott Siderfield talked earlier today and

1711
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:06,840
Speaker 2: talked about Jim and his impact and honored him, and

1712
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:09,640
Speaker 2: that was cool, and I'm sure they'll do something to

1713
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 2: continue honoring him. It's just like they did last week

1714
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:15,640
Speaker 2: with the tribute on the video board. So excited to

1715
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 2: see what UC does, but really sad that that was

1716
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 2: the case with Jim Kelly. We'll take a break We'll

1717
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:25,360
Speaker 2: put a bow on our number two when we come back.

1718
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 2: You have been listening to Football in the NATTI Hour two,

1719
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 2: brought to you by our friends at Cincy Shirts right

1720
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 2: here on the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty.

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01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:38,759
Speaker 6: You've been listening to Football in the NATI on ESPN

1722
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 6: fifteen thirty. The official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 1: From the Tom runs on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: on Thursday night. If you're going to the game, it's

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01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 2: a white Bengal game. That means the field will be

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01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 2: painted up. It means the Bengals will be in their

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01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:29,800
Speaker 2: white jerseys, white pants, white sox, white shoes, and of

1734
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 2: course the beautiful white Bengal helmet. And it was announced

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01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:39,640
Speaker 2: earlier today that the Bengals will be having Andrew Whitworth

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01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:43,080
Speaker 2: as their ruler of the jungle. Big Wit, of course,

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Speaker 2: part of Amazon Primes Thursday Night Football coverage, does a

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01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 2: great job there and back in the building. If you

1739
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:52,960
Speaker 2: remember the last time they hosted a TNF game, they

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01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:55,879
Speaker 2: put Big Wit in the stands wearing an Anthony Munos

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01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 2: jersey or a Boomera, a size in jersey or something,

1742
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:00,720
Speaker 2: and he was talking with the crowd and that was

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01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 2: really cool. And he is going to be the ruler

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01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:06,840
Speaker 2: of the jungle for I believe the first time, which

1745
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 2: is gonna be really cool. And I appreciate this from

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01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 2: the Bengals. I'm gonna say this. The Bengals could very

1747
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 2: easily shun Andrew Whitworth because of the way things ended

1748
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 2: and because he has been very openly critical of their operation,

1749
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:31,080
Speaker 2: but they haven't. They instead are saying, you're one of

1750
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 2: the greatest who's ever played here. You're already going to

1751
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 2: be in town for Thursday Night football. The fans love you.

1752
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:41,679
Speaker 2: Let's I don't know if you want to say men fences,

1753
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,680
Speaker 2: but let's use that to our advantage and let's get

1754
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:47,519
Speaker 2: the big fellow up there to rule the jungle. Good

1755
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 2: move by the Bengals. Don't be petty, appreciate that someone's

1756
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:54,640
Speaker 2: talking about you. Appreciate that someone's willing to say the

1757
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 2: difficult things about you, because let me, I could go

1758
01:32:56,840 --> 01:32:59,679
Speaker 2: off on a whole tangent about this. Something that's driving

1759
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 2: me nuts in sports media right now is the amount

1760
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 2: of wheeze and us is in very clear bias from

1761
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 2: former players. I get it, they have a unique perspective,

1762
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 2: a great perspective, a smart perspective, and there is room

1763
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 2: and space for those people. But I'm not tuning in

1764
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:30,879
Speaker 2: because of your former ability or you know the coaches,

1765
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 2: or you know the teammates or what. I don't know

1766
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:36,719
Speaker 2: how to I haven't given this enough thought to articulate

1767
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 2: it on the air yet, but it drives me nuts.

1768
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 2: Like a perfect example, last night, one of the mccordy

1769
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 2: twins is on TV. I want to say it's Jason,

1770
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 2: I don't remember which one it, or Devin I don't know,

1771
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 2: but is former Patriot played with the Patriots is always

1772
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:55,760
Speaker 2: saying us and we and this and that, and it's

1773
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 2: kind of driving me crazy. And then he just says

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01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 2: Drake may is by far the best quarterback that came

1775
01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 2: out of that draft, and the other people on the

1776
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 2: set are like, what about Jaden Daniels. Is that sort

1777
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 2: of like little bias that seeps through? Can we just

1778
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:16,360
Speaker 2: be honest? Can we just be honest? I don't know

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01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:20,040
Speaker 2: that was a that was a tangent, didn't really make

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01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:21,680
Speaker 2: all that much sense. Give me some time to think

1781
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:23,800
Speaker 2: about it. Okay, all right, we'll take a break, we'll

1782
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 2: come back. I'll tell you what happened in Green Bay

1783
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:30,840
Speaker 2: this weekend. Coolest experience of my sports life. Phone lines

1784
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:33,880
Speaker 2: also reopened at five point three seven four nine fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back sincey three sixty. ESPN fifteen thirty, third and

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01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:11,519
Speaker 2: final hour on this Tuesday, October the fourteenth, I am

1794
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 2: Austin onmore with you until three o'clock will turn things

1795
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:19,559
Speaker 2: over to Moe Egger then phone lines back open at five, three, seven, four, nine,

1796
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Still to come should the Bengals trade Trey Henderson.

1797
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:26,040
Speaker 2: Here what Boomer Asiasin had to say about that. Plus

1798
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 2: Dan Pitcher, the Bengals offensive coordinator, talked about Joe Flacco

1799
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 2: and what we got out of Flaco Sunday, what we

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01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 2: might get out of him on Thursday night. Joe Flaco

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01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 2: supposed to meet with the media later this afternoon. We

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01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 2: won't be able to air it, at least not on

1803
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:44,600
Speaker 2: this show, but we'll get the best of that for

1804
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:48,719
Speaker 2: you tomorrow on Sincy three sixty. Jamar Chase will also

1805
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:51,840
Speaker 2: speak as everything's kind of sped up. The timeline's a

1806
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:54,720
Speaker 2: little bit different this week due to the short week.

1807
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 2: Thursday night game. By the way, the game will be

1808
01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 2: heard right here on ESPN fifteen thirty And as I'm

1809
01:35:59,880 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier, I've got the postgame show from twelve thirty

1810
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 2: am to two thirty am right here on ESPN fifteen

1811
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 2: thirty and seven hundred WLW listen anywhere from the iHeartRadio app.

1812
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 2: I got to talk about this. I don't know if

1813
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:17,240
Speaker 2: anyone cares, but I just want to talk about it.

1814
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 2: I had the chance to go to Green Bay. I've

1815
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 2: been planning this trip for years. If anyone who knows

1816
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 2: me would tell you, I wouldn't really shut up about

1817
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:31,439
Speaker 2: it about the last several years because I wanted to

1818
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:34,760
Speaker 2: do it so bad. Bucket list trip to see the

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01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:41,360
Speaker 2: Bengals play at lambeau Field. I love football like it's

1820
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:44,160
Speaker 2: the sport I love the most. I've completely fallen in

1821
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:46,960
Speaker 2: love with it. I'm enamored by it. I'm enamored by

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01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:49,760
Speaker 2: the pro game. Like all I've ever known is that

1823
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 2: in some way, shape or form, I want to be

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01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:54,280
Speaker 2: involved in professional football.

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01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 3: That's always been my goal.

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01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 2: And obviously I'm not a good enough player to make

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01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:01,920
Speaker 2: that happen, and so I took the media route.

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01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 3: But this trip, there was no work. It was just

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01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 3: all play.

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01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:11,639
Speaker 2: I wanted to experience lambeau Field as a football fan,

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01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 2: and it was so much fun. I cannot say enough

1832
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:21,600
Speaker 2: about how awesome and nice and kind the people of

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01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 2: Green Bay were. I made so many friends. I went

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01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:27,880
Speaker 2: on this trip by myself. I had some people that

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01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:29,560
Speaker 2: I knew would be there and I would connect with

1836
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 2: and I would talk to and I'll talk about them

1837
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:36,240
Speaker 2: in a moment, but I was by myself, and I

1838
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 2: wanted to be by myself because of everything that had

1839
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:42,760
Speaker 2: happened in the week leading up to it. I just

1840
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:45,479
Speaker 2: wanted to get away and I wanted to just kind

1841
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 2: of fall into this experience of lambeau Field. And so

1842
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:54,120
Speaker 2: I stayed outside of lambeau Or. I stayed outside of

1843
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:56,720
Speaker 2: Green Bay by about half an hour in a town

1844
01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 2: called Appleton. I flew in and out of there at

1845
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:01,800
Speaker 2: that airport, and it was really cool and a lovely place,

1846
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 2: and I explored it. And first stop, I get their

1847
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:07,639
Speaker 2: Thursday evening and I get cheese kurds and I get

1848
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 2: a spotted cow on draft and watch Thursday night football,

1849
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:14,120
Speaker 2: watch a little college football.

1850
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:15,320
Speaker 3: Some of the baseball was going.

1851
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:18,600
Speaker 2: I was just lovely. It was a normal night. And

1852
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:21,040
Speaker 2: Friday rolls around. I get a chance to go and

1853
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 2: explore Green Bay a little bit, and I check out

1854
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:27,839
Speaker 2: the Packers Heritage Trail, which are these different historical markers

1855
01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 2: around the city of Green Bay, stuff like Vince Lombardi's office,

1856
01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:37,840
Speaker 2: his old house, Curly Lambeau's office, the birthplace of the

1857
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 2: Packers and how they turned it into a nonprofit and

1858
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:43,679
Speaker 2: the whole story of the Packers, which was really neat.

1859
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 2: Got to go check out Lambeau and walk around and

1860
01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 2: see the statues. And what's cool is you're driving into Lambeau,

1861
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 2: at least from or into I keep calling it Lambeau

1862
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 2: like it's a city. But you're driving into Green Bay

1863
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:59,519
Speaker 2: from the direction I was coming from, and it's all

1864
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 2: flat and there's a lot of you know, just there's

1865
01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 2: water and there's farmland, and there's businesses.

1866
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:06,200
Speaker 3: And there's whatever. It's normal.

1867
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:10,200
Speaker 2: It's it's normal midwestern town. And you start to see

1868
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:13,880
Speaker 2: these flashing lights in the distance, three big flashing lights,

1869
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:17,120
Speaker 2: and then you see this huge g and it's by

1870
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:23,160
Speaker 2: far the tallest structure around. It's Lambeau Field, so tall

1871
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:25,559
Speaker 2: and so much taller than everything else that it's got

1872
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 2: the lights flashing on it to for aircraft, and it's like, wow,

1873
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:35,400
Speaker 2: it really is just sitting there. It's just it's just

1874
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:39,519
Speaker 2: right there. And as you get closer to it, you realize, yeah,

1875
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:44,120
Speaker 2: there's areas around it that have been built up, and

1876
01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:46,679
Speaker 2: there's an arena next door, and the Don Hudson Center,

1877
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:49,600
Speaker 2: which is the Packers practice center, is next door and

1878
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 2: all that, but it genuinely on three and a half

1879
01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:59,360
Speaker 2: out of the four sides is just residential areas. There's

1880
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:05,759
Speaker 2: a parking lot, there's houses, there's airbnbs, there's flags flying

1881
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:10,280
Speaker 2: that historic fence that sits across from Lambeau Field, and

1882
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 2: you start walking around and you go see this ginormous

1883
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:20,360
Speaker 2: statue of Vince Lombardi and then you see this ginormous

1884
01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 2: statue of Curly Lambeau. And for a lot of fans,

1885
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 2: like most people understand like the basics of the history

1886
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:31,160
Speaker 2: of the Green Bay Packers, And I knew the basics,

1887
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:33,080
Speaker 2: but I didn't really know a lot of the details.

1888
01:40:33,479 --> 01:40:36,680
Speaker 2: And to have a chance to learn that and to

1889
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:39,920
Speaker 2: learn more about the stories and the connection to the people,

1890
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 2: it was so cool to experience that. So Saturday, I

1891
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 2: spent eight hours at Green Bay at Lambeau Field in

1892
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:53,439
Speaker 2: Green Bay. On Saturday, I show up early and I

1893
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:56,320
Speaker 2: go to the pro Shop, which is just insanity. The

1894
01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:59,680
Speaker 2: Packers Pro Shop is nuts. And I spent a ton

1895
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:01,720
Speaker 2: of time. I'm in there and get all my shopping done.

1896
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:03,519
Speaker 2: You know, I got a cousin that's a packer fan.

1897
01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:06,400
Speaker 2: I get him a few things and get myself. I

1898
01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:10,200
Speaker 2: collect those little collectible pins, you know, I have a

1899
01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:12,320
Speaker 2: whole like shadow box full of pins. It's pretty neat.

1900
01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:14,120
Speaker 2: Maybe one of these days I'll post a picture. But

1901
01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:17,200
Speaker 2: I always get pins everywhere I go. So I got those,

1902
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 2: and I got a program and like a commemorative ticket

1903
01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:22,880
Speaker 2: and the whole nine yards and I'm there for a

1904
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:25,000
Speaker 2: couple hours, and then I go do a tour. And

1905
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:27,360
Speaker 2: the tour is like two and a half hours. I did,

1906
01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:30,599
Speaker 2: like the legendary tour, they call it. And they take

1907
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:32,799
Speaker 2: us up in the clubs and in the press box

1908
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:38,160
Speaker 2: and up on the rooftop, and you're up up there

1909
01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:40,599
Speaker 2: by the scoreboard and they're painting the field, and they're

1910
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 2: telling these stories, and they're talking about Bob Harlan and

1911
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 2: how he had raised this two hundred and ninety five

1912
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 2: million dollars to make these improvements and make it what

1913
01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:52,680
Speaker 2: it is. And you see the names of all these

1914
01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:55,439
Speaker 2: people that have played for the Green Bay Packers or

1915
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 2: impacted the Green Bay Packers over the years. You see

1916
01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:04,120
Speaker 2: these retired numbers, Tony Cannadeo and Brett Farv and Ray Nischki.

1917
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 2: It's just it's it. You can feel it, the history,

1918
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:14,160
Speaker 2: the importance of it to the people of Green Bay.

1919
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:19,559
Speaker 2: It's a cathedral to pro football, a tabernacle, if you will.

1920
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:24,040
Speaker 2: And so then they take you downstairs and there you

1921
01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:26,479
Speaker 2: go through Like where I was at the day I

1922
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:29,360
Speaker 2: did it, the Bengals locker room was unavailable because the

1923
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:32,160
Speaker 2: Bengals were in there setting up, and you know, they're

1924
01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 2: telling all these different stories and it's just it's amazing

1925
01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:36,439
Speaker 2: to hear these different moments and these different things. And

1926
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:40,000
Speaker 2: then they bring into the tunnel and they play kind

1927
01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:42,160
Speaker 2: of the experience of what it would be like if

1928
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 2: you were a Green Bay packer walking out onto the field.

1929
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:50,400
Speaker 2: And then you do it, and all of a sudden,

1930
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:52,800
Speaker 2: to me, when you're on the field, a place that

1931
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:59,200
Speaker 2: seems ginormous, all of a sudden feels small. It feels

1932
01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 2: really intimate. The fans are basically right on top of you,

1933
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:04,680
Speaker 2: the stands are basically right on top of you, and

1934
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 2: the field is unbelievably flat, and the playing surface and

1935
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:13,040
Speaker 2: the science and the care and the dedication that goes

1936
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 2: into it is cool. And you're met with this sign

1937
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:21,320
Speaker 2: that says, welcome to lambeau Field. Enjoy this special place,

1938
01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:24,719
Speaker 2: but please stay off the playing field. Of course, nobody

1939
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:26,960
Speaker 2: wants you can't go on the field. They're working on it,

1940
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:30,920
Speaker 2: they're painting it. But enjoy this special place and when

1941
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:33,479
Speaker 2: you sit there for a moment and you just think

1942
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:36,519
Speaker 2: of all the stuff that has happened on that field

1943
01:43:37,360 --> 01:43:41,200
Speaker 2: for the many, many decades that football has been played there,

1944
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:48,960
Speaker 2: Incredible moments, and I think of the Monday Night Miracle,

1945
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:55,599
Speaker 2: the catch. There's just so many cool things. Randy Moss

1946
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:59,200
Speaker 2: acting like he's pulling his pants down at the goalpost

1947
01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:03,880
Speaker 2: just and it's just you feel all this history on

1948
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 2: top of you. And like, if you're a football fan,

1949
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:09,720
Speaker 2: you got to go to Green Bay, you got to

1950
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 2: go to lambeau Field. You got to experience that because

1951
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 2: the people there they share a deep love for the

1952
01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:18,960
Speaker 2: Packers in the game of football. And if you if

1953
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:21,920
Speaker 2: you understand the story of how it happened and how

1954
01:44:22,439 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 2: Curly Lambo, you know, founded the Packers and then they

1955
01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:27,960
Speaker 2: turn it into a nonprofit and now they've got the

1956
01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:31,080
Speaker 2: shareholders and all this other stuff, and the way that

1957
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:35,919
Speaker 2: they have preserved that field and that stadium and its legacy,

1958
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:41,720
Speaker 2: like everything about it feels special, it feels meaningful, and

1959
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 2: the way that the fans hold that up is fun.

1960
01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 2: It's really neat to see and the packers themselves, like

1961
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:52,800
Speaker 2: the organization itself really makes you feel valued, even as

1962
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:56,240
Speaker 2: an opposing fan, like they want you to appreciate, Hey,

1963
01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:58,559
Speaker 2: look at what we have, look at what we've built,

1964
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:02,599
Speaker 2: look at what we've invested in. And that was really

1965
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:07,160
Speaker 2: cool to see. And if you are a football fan,

1966
01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:09,240
Speaker 2: you got to go. And then across the street they've

1967
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:14,720
Speaker 2: invested in Titletown. And if you've been to Atlanta, you

1968
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:17,040
Speaker 2: know about the Battery, which is kind of the area

1969
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:19,479
Speaker 2: that surrounds Truest Park, or if you've even been, you know,

1970
01:45:19,720 --> 01:45:23,200
Speaker 2: like similar to Cincinnati, like the Banks. Well, the difference

1971
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:24,920
Speaker 2: is and with a lot of these teams across the

1972
01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:27,599
Speaker 2: NFL and across all of sports now is they're buying

1973
01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:31,200
Speaker 2: up this land and then they're building their stadium on it,

1974
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:34,200
Speaker 2: and now they're turning it into retail and you know,

1975
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:38,080
Speaker 2: shopping and mixed use developments and apartments and all this

1976
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:42,160
Speaker 2: other stuff and they own all that and they generate

1977
01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:44,400
Speaker 2: a profit off of it and all of it. So

1978
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:47,840
Speaker 2: like for example, like the the the Braves last year

1979
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:51,600
Speaker 2: made something like sixty five million dollars off of the

1980
01:45:51,680 --> 01:45:56,760
Speaker 2: Battery alone. It was their third highest revenue their third

1981
01:45:57,000 --> 01:46:02,439
Speaker 2: highest income stream behind the tea money and ticket sales.

1982
01:46:03,320 --> 01:46:07,519
Speaker 2: It's amazing and that's kind of the blueprint for a

1983
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 2: lot of teams these days. Oh, we'll build a stadium,

1984
01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:13,120
Speaker 2: We'll get up a bunch of land, will generate a

1985
01:46:13,160 --> 01:46:15,439
Speaker 2: bunch of profit from it. And so the Packers when

1986
01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:17,880
Speaker 2: they sell all this money, they have to use it

1987
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:20,760
Speaker 2: to improve the facilities. And so they built Tiitle Town,

1988
01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:25,440
Speaker 2: which is across the street. It's got breweries, it's got restaurants,

1989
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:29,599
Speaker 2: it's got a big public space. There's a giant football

1990
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 2: field there. When I was there, they were doing a

1991
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:36,439
Speaker 2: flag football tournament for the salute the Service Army against

1992
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:39,720
Speaker 2: Navy and Marines against Air Force and.

1993
01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:40,840
Speaker 3: All sorts of stuff.

1994
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:43,840
Speaker 2: It was really cool to see that, and like all

1995
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:47,799
Speaker 2: that town is is like cheese curds, beer and football,

1996
01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:52,400
Speaker 2: Like that is legitimately who they are and that was

1997
01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:55,080
Speaker 2: really cool to see. It was really cool to experience

1998
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:58,360
Speaker 2: and to feel that history. And I got to give

1999
01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:02,160
Speaker 2: a shout out actually to TP fifteen because he hooked

2000
01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:03,639
Speaker 2: me up with a guy by the name of Glenn,

2001
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 2: who is known Tony for a long time from Milwaukee,

2002
01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:12,559
Speaker 2: huge Packer fan. Glenn reaches out generous enough to give

2003
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:15,439
Speaker 2: me a parking pass and invite me over to his

2004
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 2: home for a pregame party. Brat's Spotted Cow. We're like

2005
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:25,519
Speaker 2: a four minute walk to lambeau Field. You can see

2006
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:29,680
Speaker 2: lambeau Field from his front balcony, insane, and you walk in.

2007
01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:33,599
Speaker 2: It's like going to a Packer museum. It was neat

2008
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:37,360
Speaker 2: in a reflection of what so many Packer fans are

2009
01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:39,479
Speaker 2: and how much they love and appreciate the game.

2010
01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:42,679
Speaker 3: And to be able to experience that and meet people.

2011
01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:44,960
Speaker 2: I went to this place called Legend Larry's, which they

2012
01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:48,719
Speaker 2: said is the best wings in Green Bay, start making

2013
01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 2: small talk with people. Next thing I know, I'm invited

2014
01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:55,240
Speaker 2: to a tailgate the following day and tells me where

2015
01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:58,840
Speaker 2: they are. It's just it was cool. I know I'm

2016
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:01,160
Speaker 2: probably drowning out and people already turned their radios off.

2017
01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:03,679
Speaker 2: That's fine. It was a cool thing I've ever gotten

2018
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:06,240
Speaker 2: to do in sports. It was obviously a much needed

2019
01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:11,720
Speaker 2: getaway for me, but a reminder of like how much

2020
01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:16,759
Speaker 2: I love football, and how much I love that people

2021
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 2: love football, if that makes any sense, Like I love

2022
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:26,680
Speaker 2: that there's such a desire and a passion for the

2023
01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:29,439
Speaker 2: game and for growing the game and for spreading the

2024
01:48:29,560 --> 01:48:33,439
Speaker 2: game with so many people in Green Bay, and to

2025
01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:36,200
Speaker 2: be treated the way I was treated by fans and

2026
01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 2: specifically every member of the Packers' staff while I was there.

2027
01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:45,360
Speaker 2: That's the gold standard for how businesses should treat their customers.

2028
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:51,439
Speaker 2: It was sensational. It also made me think about the Bengals.

2029
01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:58,639
Speaker 2: It made me think that there's really nothing that leans

2030
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:01,519
Speaker 2: into the history of the Bengals. And I understand they're

2031
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:04,200
Speaker 2: sixty years old. It's not nearly the same level as

2032
01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers, but there were a lot of similarities,

2033
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:11,679
Speaker 2: especially when you go to the Packer Hall of Fame

2034
01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:15,040
Speaker 2: about the Reds Hall of Fame. The Reds fully understand

2035
01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:20,040
Speaker 2: the impact that that franchise has had on the game

2036
01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:24,040
Speaker 2: of baseball. And there are people here that truly love

2037
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:27,799
Speaker 2: the Reds and it's a huge part of our culture,

2038
01:49:27,880 --> 01:49:29,760
Speaker 2: a part of who we are and Opening Day and

2039
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:31,960
Speaker 2: all of that, and the Reds do a great job

2040
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:36,560
Speaker 2: of reminding us of its importance and also spreading that

2041
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:39,840
Speaker 2: to baseball fans everywhere. If you're a baseball fan, you've

2042
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:41,960
Speaker 2: got to come to the Reds Hall of Fame museum.

2043
01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:46,240
Speaker 2: You have to it's a prerequisite to understanding the importance

2044
01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:51,480
Speaker 2: of the game in this city and the first professional

2045
01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:54,760
Speaker 2: team and all of it. It's so important. I feel

2046
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 2: the same way about going to the Packer Hall of Fame, Like,

2047
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:58,880
Speaker 2: if you're a football fan, you got to go. It's

2048
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:01,880
Speaker 2: up there with the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton.

2049
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:08,880
Speaker 2: And I wish the Bengals cared more about that. I

2050
01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:14,080
Speaker 2: wish they cared about preserving their history and teaching the

2051
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:18,920
Speaker 2: history to fans, and that they could turn that into

2052
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 2: a revenue source and everybody gets talking to the Bengals.

2053
01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:25,560
Speaker 3: That's the best way I want to say this.

2054
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:32,800
Speaker 2: The Bengals legacy, I guess you could say they're synonymous

2055
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:35,479
Speaker 2: with being cheap. All people ever talk about the Bengals

2056
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:42,080
Speaker 2: is money. Oh, they could turn being a they could

2057
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 2: turn their history and a museum and all that into

2058
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:49,799
Speaker 2: a huge revenue source. Obviously winning would help, and obviously

2059
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:52,400
Speaker 2: they're only sixty years old, but like, don't you wish

2060
01:50:52,439 --> 01:50:54,320
Speaker 2: the Bengals would tap into that a little bit more

2061
01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:58,479
Speaker 2: and create a destination for people to come to learn

2062
01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:01,760
Speaker 2: about the franchise and to create more fans and to

2063
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:04,760
Speaker 2: generate money. And you know, maybe that all comes down

2064
01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:08,120
Speaker 2: the line with a new stadium one day. Perhaps, I

2065
01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 2: don't know, and I believe in Elizabeth and Caroline to

2066
01:51:11,200 --> 01:51:13,960
Speaker 2: make that happen at some point. But it did make

2067
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 2: me feel like Wow. I wish the Bengals made me

2068
01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 2: feel this way. I wish the Bengals reinvested in their

2069
01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:23,880
Speaker 2: history as much as the Green Bay Packers do. But

2070
01:51:24,439 --> 01:51:26,120
Speaker 2: I can't wait to go back. I didn't even want

2071
01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:28,080
Speaker 2: to leave the stadium when the game was over. I

2072
01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:30,200
Speaker 2: kept telling myself, it's more about, you know, I love

2073
01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:32,559
Speaker 2: football than it is about the result. And I think

2074
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:35,000
Speaker 2: most people, most Bengals fans, kind of thought it was

2075
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:37,080
Speaker 2: a preseason game anyways, just because of where they were

2076
01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:40,200
Speaker 2: at with Flacco. But it was awesome. I can't stop

2077
01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:42,200
Speaker 2: talking about it. I can't shut up about it. I just,

2078
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:44,720
Speaker 2: you know, took fifteen minutes of your time talking about it.

2079
01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:48,880
Speaker 2: I posted some pictures on my Instagram at audio More,

2080
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:52,240
Speaker 2: and go check them out if you want to follow

2081
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:54,680
Speaker 2: me if you want to. It was really fun, really

2082
01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 2: fun to see that and experience that, and I loved it.

2083
01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:00,760
Speaker 2: And I hope you get to do that someday too.

2084
01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:03,720
Speaker 2: All right, when we come back, should the Bengals trade

2085
01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:07,120
Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson, Let's talk about it. ESPN fifteen thirty.

2086
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:12,480
Speaker 1: Cincy three sixty is back on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati

2087
01:52:12,680 --> 01:52:13,439
Speaker 1: Sports Station.

2088
01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:20,080
Speaker 2: Welcome back ESPN fifteen thirty. Since E three sixty on

2089
01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:25,280
Speaker 2: Austin Elmore twenty minutes from right now. Moegger from Oakley

2090
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:30,320
Speaker 2: Greens will join us. Got the The Moegger Show coming

2091
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:37,519
Speaker 2: up this afternoon from three to six. Just talked about

2092
01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:39,960
Speaker 2: my experience in Green Bay. Let's get back to the

2093
01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:45,000
Speaker 2: actual football on the field and talk about Trey Hendrickson.

2094
01:52:46,040 --> 01:52:50,160
Speaker 2: Should the Bengals trade Trey Hendrickson. You're gonna hear from

2095
01:52:50,160 --> 01:52:54,160
Speaker 2: Boomer Sison in just a moment. And also, I think

2096
01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:56,680
Speaker 2: it all kind of comes back to what happens on Thursday.

2097
01:52:56,880 --> 01:53:00,400
Speaker 2: Before we can make a decision on that, whether or

2098
01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:02,880
Speaker 2: not Trey plays and how he plays and so on.

2099
01:53:03,479 --> 01:53:05,120
Speaker 2: Before we get to it, let's go to the phones.

2100
01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:07,439
Speaker 2: Five on three seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty. Let's go

2101
01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:10,360
Speaker 2: to Alexandria and talk to Chris. Chris, what's up?

2102
01:53:11,720 --> 01:53:12,040
Speaker 5: All right?

2103
01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:14,439
Speaker 3: Thanks for taking my call, buddy, Yeah, thanks for having me.

2104
01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:14,880
Speaker 3: What's up?

2105
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:19,240
Speaker 19: I I just want to say that, uh, you know,

2106
01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:21,200
Speaker 19: I know you were gone. You didn't miss much while

2107
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:23,639
Speaker 19: you were gone, So welcome back to business as usual.

2108
01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:30,360
Speaker 19: Thanks for the courtesy laugh there, appreciate that. Hey, you know,

2109
01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:33,719
Speaker 19: who was it that you were talking to earlier today?

2110
01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:35,599
Speaker 19: Was it Joe Daniman about the Bengals.

2111
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:36,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2112
01:53:37,280 --> 01:53:41,320
Speaker 19: Yeah, so I agree with you guys completely. Two weeks ago,

2113
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:43,680
Speaker 19: to me, the season was over. I wasn't going to

2114
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:46,960
Speaker 19: watch another game. I walked out of that Lions game like, Nope,

2115
01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:49,840
Speaker 19: that's it. I'm not spending another afternoon doing that. And

2116
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:52,360
Speaker 19: then they signed Joe Flacco and I think the same

2117
01:53:52,439 --> 01:53:55,720
Speaker 19: thing everybody else thinks. I think, Okay, well I have

2118
01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:58,120
Speaker 19: to at least watch. They've got to basically call in

2119
01:53:58,160 --> 01:54:00,519
Speaker 19: Green Bay a preseason game. But okay, hey he does

2120
01:54:00,600 --> 01:54:02,519
Speaker 19: have an arm. He is gonna be better than Browning

2121
01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:05,439
Speaker 19: and now here. I am just like everybody else. I

2122
01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:08,280
Speaker 19: hear you and Joe dam and talk and I'm like, Okay,

2123
01:54:08,479 --> 01:54:10,960
Speaker 19: this is the season. Thursday is the season. Yeah, they

2124
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:14,160
Speaker 19: can win Thursday night. They're still alive. They're still real,

2125
01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:17,400
Speaker 19: like we're still undefeated in the AFC, wor like it's

2126
01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:20,479
Speaker 19: amazing how much can change in three weeks it's hard

2127
01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:21,840
Speaker 19: being a Cincinnati sports fan.

2128
01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:24,200
Speaker 2: You don't have anything else to do Thursday night, Chris,

2129
01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:25,680
Speaker 2: you might as well watch the game, you know.

2130
01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:28,080
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I might as well.

2131
01:54:28,640 --> 01:54:29,320
Speaker 8: It's on TV.

2132
01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:31,320
Speaker 19: I don't want to be rude and not watch Andrew

2133
01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:35,640
Speaker 19: Whitworth either of course, you know. Well, anyways, Hey, Audie,

2134
01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 19: congratulations on the show being yours. I know you're gonna

2135
01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:41,400
Speaker 19: make it your own and you're gonna honor all of

2136
01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:44,600
Speaker 19: us and just keep moving forward. Man, thanks for.

2137
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:45,560
Speaker 3: Everything, Chris, Thank you.

2138
01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:48,120
Speaker 2: I appreciate it and all your support over the years.

2139
01:54:48,320 --> 01:54:51,960
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean it's truly. This league is truly

2140
01:54:52,360 --> 01:54:56,000
Speaker 2: a week to week league. And what felt like the

2141
01:54:56,080 --> 01:54:58,920
Speaker 2: season was over a couple of weeks ago. Somehow you

2142
01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:01,400
Speaker 2: have renewed faith because the Bengals at least tried to

2143
01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:04,280
Speaker 2: do something and Flacco showed that he could still a

2144
01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:09,120
Speaker 2: little bit play football, and so now you fast forward

2145
01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:13,000
Speaker 2: to this game. And so to me, the biggest storyline

2146
01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:17,000
Speaker 2: with this game is what direction to the Bengals go

2147
01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:23,320
Speaker 2: if they win and if they lose, you should, I

2148
01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:26,600
Speaker 2: think still be an aggressive pursuit of a championship.

2149
01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:28,480
Speaker 3: You have a window.

2150
01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:32,360
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow there's a possibility that he comes back this season.

2151
01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:34,160
Speaker 2: And if you look around at the rest of the

2152
01:55:34,200 --> 01:55:36,200
Speaker 2: AFC and feel like you can compete, and if you

2153
01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:39,040
Speaker 2: can just buy some time to get to January, then

2154
01:55:39,080 --> 01:55:41,400
Speaker 2: you have to consider it. That's why you go and

2155
01:55:41,480 --> 01:55:43,240
Speaker 2: make a move for a guy like Joe Flacco. The

2156
01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:47,320
Speaker 2: Bengals never do in season trades, but they were desperate,

2157
01:55:47,400 --> 01:55:49,480
Speaker 2: so they made a move. Last year, they were desperate,

2158
01:55:49,560 --> 01:55:51,960
Speaker 2: so they made a move for Khalil Herbert. He made

2159
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:53,760
Speaker 2: a couple of nice plays. The Bengals were on the

2160
01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:58,840
Speaker 2: precipice of the playoffs. Again, Well, now what happens if

2161
01:55:58,880 --> 01:56:02,720
Speaker 2: you lose, because you've already committed to the youth movement

2162
01:56:02,840 --> 01:56:07,080
Speaker 2: in a lot of different positions. Jalen Rivers replaced Dalton Reisner.

2163
01:56:07,240 --> 01:56:10,640
Speaker 2: Dylan Fairchild was your starting guard up until this past

2164
01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:14,360
Speaker 2: week when he was out with an injury. Barrett Carter

2165
01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:17,960
Speaker 2: started and played the entire game over Logan Wilson. Demetrius

2166
01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:21,120
Speaker 2: Knight is getting extensive time. Shamar Stewart, you expect to

2167
01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:24,000
Speaker 2: come back and he will start and play a lot.

2168
01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:28,600
Speaker 2: If you move cam Taylor Britt down in the depth

2169
01:56:28,680 --> 01:56:30,920
Speaker 2: chart and you go back to Josh Newton and see

2170
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:33,600
Speaker 2: what he can prove. And you've already played DJ Turner.

2171
01:56:33,680 --> 01:56:36,919
Speaker 2: You're continuing to invest in the young guys on defense

2172
01:56:37,080 --> 01:56:43,320
Speaker 2: as well. So you've committed to a youth movement. And

2173
01:56:43,440 --> 01:56:47,080
Speaker 2: if you lose this one at two and five the season,

2174
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:50,360
Speaker 2: it would be hard to come back from. It would be,

2175
01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:54,360
Speaker 2: let's be honest, especially losing a game in the AFC North.

2176
01:56:56,040 --> 01:56:59,000
Speaker 2: And so then what do you do, Because if you're

2177
01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:02,320
Speaker 2: already committing to the youth movement, that tells me not

2178
01:57:02,440 --> 01:57:04,800
Speaker 2: only are we thinking about this year and what this

2179
01:57:04,960 --> 01:57:08,640
Speaker 2: year could be in the move with Flacco and some

2180
01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:11,320
Speaker 2: of the others, but also it's you're thinking about next year.

2181
01:57:12,160 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 2: So much of what has happened with these young players

2182
01:57:14,680 --> 01:57:18,040
Speaker 2: playing is the antithesis of what we saw a year ago,

2183
01:57:18,720 --> 01:57:20,760
Speaker 2: which is that none of the young players were playing,

2184
01:57:21,000 --> 01:57:23,560
Speaker 2: and really the year before that, which is they didn't

2185
01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:27,600
Speaker 2: invest in giving those young guys opportunities, and so you

2186
01:57:27,680 --> 01:57:29,920
Speaker 2: waited and waited, and then here you are and they're

2187
01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:32,280
Speaker 2: not good enough. And so now some of these other

2188
01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:35,800
Speaker 2: young dudes, these other young draft picks, have to produce,

2189
01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:38,040
Speaker 2: have to play, have to be a part of the

2190
01:57:38,080 --> 01:57:42,240
Speaker 2: conversation and so what happens should you trade Trey Hendrickson

2191
01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:47,400
Speaker 2: if you lose on Thursday you don't feel comfortable investing

2192
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:50,800
Speaker 2: in him long term, that's obvious. You came to a

2193
01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:55,160
Speaker 2: compromise this year. He's been okay, not great. You do

2194
01:57:55,440 --> 01:57:58,400
Speaker 2: miss him when he's not on the field. But does

2195
01:57:58,480 --> 01:58:02,520
Speaker 2: it give an opportunity for Shamar Stewart to develop? Does

2196
01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:05,720
Speaker 2: it give an opportunity for I don't know anybody else

2197
01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:09,680
Speaker 2: to get more playing time Chris Jenkins, Demetrius Nightwig. How

2198
01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:11,960
Speaker 2: does it open up the other parts of the offense

2199
01:58:12,760 --> 01:58:17,360
Speaker 2: or parts of the defense. I think if they lose

2200
01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:23,600
Speaker 2: on Thursday, you have to consider trading Trey Hendrickson. I

2201
01:58:23,680 --> 01:58:26,760
Speaker 2: think it almost becomes a non negotiable. If you're serious

2202
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:31,760
Speaker 2: about winning and rebuilding sooner rather than later, then you

2203
01:58:31,840 --> 01:58:38,240
Speaker 2: should be calling up Indianapolis or San Francisco or Detroit

2204
01:58:38,560 --> 01:58:41,160
Speaker 2: or any team in need of a pass rush and

2205
01:58:41,360 --> 01:58:44,160
Speaker 2: is willing to spend a little bit more because they

2206
01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:49,440
Speaker 2: feel like they can compete for Trey Henderson. You should

2207
01:58:50,360 --> 01:58:53,480
Speaker 2: if you want to be taken serious, and if you

2208
01:58:53,680 --> 01:58:58,080
Speaker 2: know that there is a place, there are spots on

2209
01:58:58,160 --> 01:59:01,240
Speaker 2: this roster that are gonna need to be flipped over,

2210
01:59:01,960 --> 01:59:04,360
Speaker 2: that you're gonna need depth and that you're gonna need

2211
01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:07,919
Speaker 2: more draft picks. You should be open to trading Trey Hendrickson,

2212
01:59:08,080 --> 01:59:11,880
Speaker 2: and not just Trey Hendrickson, should be open to trading

2213
01:59:11,920 --> 01:59:15,880
Speaker 2: Logan Wilson too. If you're committed to the youth movement

2214
01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:19,000
Speaker 2: at linebacker, I'm sure there's a team out there that

2215
01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:21,800
Speaker 2: would take one. San Francisco just lost Fred Warner for

2216
01:59:21,880 --> 01:59:25,720
Speaker 2: the season. Now, Logan Wilson's no Fred Warner. Nobody is,

2217
01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:30,320
Speaker 2: but I'm sure they'd take him. I'm sure there are

2218
01:59:30,520 --> 01:59:34,320
Speaker 2: some good teams out there looking for a linebacker that

2219
01:59:34,440 --> 01:59:39,480
Speaker 2: they wouldn't mind trading draft capital for and get something

2220
01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:43,080
Speaker 2: in return. Keep in mind, the Bengals did a pick

2221
01:59:43,160 --> 01:59:46,240
Speaker 2: swap with the Browns for Joe Flacco, so they moved

2222
01:59:46,280 --> 01:59:48,800
Speaker 2: back about eighty spots. If I know the Bengals they

2223
01:59:48,920 --> 01:59:51,080
Speaker 2: value draft picks, I would assume they want to get

2224
01:59:51,080 --> 01:59:54,360
Speaker 2: those eighty spots back. I would assume they would try

2225
01:59:54,400 --> 01:59:56,440
Speaker 2: to get back into the fourth at the very least

2226
01:59:56,520 --> 02:00:02,360
Speaker 2: for someone like Logan Wilson. Definitely for Trey Hendrick. Here's

2227
02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:04,720
Speaker 2: what Boomer A. Sizon had to say. Boomer was on

2228
02:00:04,880 --> 02:00:07,920
Speaker 2: the up and Adams Show with Kay Adams. This is

2229
02:00:07,960 --> 02:00:11,560
Speaker 2: about fifty seconds long. This is the conversation Boomer had

2230
02:00:11,640 --> 02:00:14,680
Speaker 2: with k about trading Trey Henderson.

2231
02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:16,800
Speaker 37: If he's healthy, I would trade him if you could

2232
02:00:16,840 --> 02:00:20,000
Speaker 37: get some quality draft picks back, because that's how they're

2233
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:22,760
Speaker 37: going to have to rebuild their team. They got, they

2234
02:00:22,800 --> 02:00:26,840
Speaker 37: got the offense, they've got to make some key acquisitions

2235
02:00:27,000 --> 02:00:29,480
Speaker 37: in the draft on defense to go along with Shamar

2236
02:00:29,600 --> 02:00:32,400
Speaker 37: Stewart and to see if they can rebuild that defense.

2237
02:00:32,680 --> 02:00:35,240
Speaker 37: And any of these teams with losing records that really

2238
02:00:35,280 --> 02:00:37,760
Speaker 37: don't have the chance at the playoffs, they got to

2239
02:00:37,840 --> 02:00:41,360
Speaker 37: move away from guys that they think are tradeable assets

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Speaker 37: and bring back draft choices. All these teams, the Lions,

2241
02:00:46,080 --> 02:00:49,280
Speaker 37: the Broncos, all these teams come out of the doldrums

2242
02:00:49,680 --> 02:00:52,560
Speaker 37: when they make key trades now for Jared Goff of course,

2243
02:00:52,760 --> 02:00:55,720
Speaker 37: or a key draft like you know, bo Knicks, and

2244
02:00:55,880 --> 02:00:58,600
Speaker 37: that's what you need. You need draft assets, you need

2245
02:00:58,680 --> 02:01:01,480
Speaker 37: to get younger, you need to get and you certainly

2246
02:01:01,560 --> 02:01:02,480
Speaker 37: need to get cheaper.

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02:01:03,160 --> 02:01:06,800
Speaker 3: Maybe we wait a week though on the tray, and that's.

2248
02:01:06,680 --> 02:01:09,960
Speaker 2: What I agree with Kay Adams there. Maybe you wait

2249
02:01:10,000 --> 02:01:12,440
Speaker 2: a week with Trey Hendrickson. See where you're at at

2250
02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:15,720
Speaker 2: the mini buy and then go from there. But you

2251
02:01:15,840 --> 02:01:18,840
Speaker 2: should be having these conversations right now. If you're Duke Toven,

2252
02:01:19,440 --> 02:01:22,520
Speaker 2: if you're Zach Taylor, if you're the Bengals, where are

2253
02:01:22,600 --> 02:01:25,160
Speaker 2: we willing to go? How are we willing to pivot

2254
02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:29,040
Speaker 2: if this thing gets out of hand? We tried Joe Flacco,

2255
02:01:29,120 --> 02:01:32,040
Speaker 2: it didn't cost us very much. Can we do something

2256
02:01:32,120 --> 02:01:34,720
Speaker 2: to set ourselves up going into next year? They're going

2257
02:01:34,800 --> 02:01:37,200
Speaker 2: to have plenty of money, even more so if they

2258
02:01:37,320 --> 02:01:40,360
Speaker 2: move on from Trey Hendrickson and give yourself a fresh

2259
02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:44,960
Speaker 2: start to flip this roster over quickly so that you're

2260
02:01:45,000 --> 02:01:48,440
Speaker 2: not wasting a year next year rebuilding. That can't be

2261
02:01:48,520 --> 02:01:51,640
Speaker 2: an option. You cannot waste another year with Joe Burrow

2262
02:01:51,960 --> 02:01:53,360
Speaker 2: when he's back healthy next year.

2263
02:01:53,400 --> 02:01:53,920
Speaker 3: You just can't.

2264
02:01:55,440 --> 02:01:58,000
Speaker 2: I think you open up the door and consider doing

2265
02:01:58,040 --> 02:02:01,600
Speaker 2: the same thing with Logan Wilson, maybe with Cam Taylor

2266
02:02:01,640 --> 02:02:03,360
Speaker 2: Britt if there's a team out there that thinks they

2267
02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:05,000
Speaker 2: could fix him. I don't know if you get anything

2268
02:02:05,080 --> 02:02:08,600
Speaker 2: for him, but maybe these are all conversations that need

2269
02:02:08,680 --> 02:02:11,520
Speaker 2: to be had. We'll take a break, we'll come back.

2270
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Speaker 2: Phone lines open five point three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: This is ESPN fifteen thirty. More than a few of

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Speaker 2: our patients have fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 38: The stretch and the pitch, Odieoll swinging the drive deep

2274
02:02:23,480 --> 02:02:25,280
Speaker 38: down the left field lines. Stay fair.

2275
02:02:25,440 --> 02:02:27,120
Speaker 19: It is a fair ball.

2276
02:02:27,480 --> 02:02:32,640
Speaker 38: Goodbye baseball, just fair down the left field line. Julio

2277
02:02:32,800 --> 02:02:36,480
Speaker 38: rod Rigguez. We have a home run scoring Randy and

2278
02:02:36,600 --> 02:02:37,720
Speaker 38: cal on in front of him.

2279
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Speaker 5: An just like that, the.

2280
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Speaker 38: Maritors have a three nothing lead here in the top

2281
02:02:43,080 --> 02:02:44,000
Speaker 38: of the first edting.

2282
02:02:45,880 --> 02:02:49,360
Speaker 2: That was the call on Seattle's Sports seven to ten,

2283
02:02:49,560 --> 02:02:53,240
Speaker 2: the Mariners Radio Network, and it is our Win Shulers

2284
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Speaker 2: Call of the Day, brought to you by Win Shulers

2285
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2286
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Speaker 2: no different. That's why you want to make sure you

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2289
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Speaker 2: get some for your tailgate party, especially coming up this Thursday.

2290
02:03:18,200 --> 02:03:21,080
Speaker 2: By the way, Seattle up two games to none on

2291
02:03:21,320 --> 02:03:23,920
Speaker 2: Toronto in that series. Getting ready to go back to

2292
02:03:24,000 --> 02:03:27,800
Speaker 2: Seattle before long, And I'm kind of rooting for the Mariners, man,

2293
02:03:28,040 --> 02:03:31,280
Speaker 2: I want the Mariners to go all the way. Brewers

2294
02:03:31,400 --> 02:03:34,840
Speaker 2: Dodgers Game two tonight, Dodgers took the first game in

2295
02:03:35,000 --> 02:03:36,880
Speaker 2: that series by a score of two to one in

2296
02:03:36,920 --> 02:03:40,120
Speaker 2: a wild game. As the Major League Baseball playoffs continue

2297
02:03:40,200 --> 02:03:43,320
Speaker 2: that as our wind Shoolers call of the day, have

2298
02:03:43,400 --> 02:03:45,600
Speaker 2: a couple minutes for phone calls. Let's go to Jeff

2299
02:03:45,680 --> 02:03:50,320
Speaker 2: in Virginia. What's up, Jeff, Happy Tuesday, Austin. Congrats on

2300
02:03:50,480 --> 02:03:51,040
Speaker 2: getting the gig.

2301
02:03:51,400 --> 02:03:52,480
Speaker 3: We'll all be right behind you.

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Speaker 17: You know that.

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02:03:53,240 --> 02:03:53,520
Speaker 5: Thank you.

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02:03:53,800 --> 02:03:54,200
Speaker 7: That's good.

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02:03:55,920 --> 02:03:57,200
Speaker 19: You hit on two topics that.

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02:03:57,240 --> 02:04:00,680
Speaker 39: Have been driving me nuts, the wee us thing and

2307
02:04:00,840 --> 02:04:04,640
Speaker 39: the Packers thing too, so I'll combine both of them.

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02:04:04,680 --> 02:04:06,440
Speaker 5: The trip I did the same trip you did.

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02:04:06,480 --> 02:04:08,200
Speaker 19: I got to go on the tour the day before

2310
02:04:08,280 --> 02:04:08,640
Speaker 19: you did.

2311
02:04:09,920 --> 02:04:11,120
Speaker 13: I got to go in the I got to go

2312
02:04:11,200 --> 02:04:11,360
Speaker 13: in the.

2313
02:04:11,400 --> 02:04:13,800
Speaker 39: Visitors' locker room, which I've been in nicer high school

2314
02:04:13,800 --> 02:04:17,880
Speaker 39: locker rooms, to be honest with you. And when we

2315
02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:21,360
Speaker 39: did our tours, don't walk on the field, and our

2316
02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:24,000
Speaker 39: guy told the story of people who have brought ashes

2317
02:04:24,080 --> 02:04:25,720
Speaker 39: in and spread ashes on the field in.

2318
02:04:25,760 --> 02:04:28,960
Speaker 3: There and it's killed the grass, which I thought was wow.

2319
02:04:29,760 --> 02:04:30,160
Speaker 8: I get it.

2320
02:04:30,280 --> 02:04:33,680
Speaker 39: I can't imagine how many people want their ashes.

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02:04:33,320 --> 02:04:34,440
Speaker 19: Spread at Lambeau feet.

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02:04:35,400 --> 02:04:38,280
Speaker 3: They probably get so many requests it.

2323
02:04:38,360 --> 02:04:39,360
Speaker 19: Must be unbelievable.

2324
02:04:39,360 --> 02:04:41,800
Speaker 39: And then onto the wis and you stop me if

2325
02:04:41,840 --> 02:04:44,440
Speaker 39: you think I'm not going the right way here I

2326
02:04:44,520 --> 02:04:46,680
Speaker 39: got I got caught in traffic even you know, I

2327
02:04:46,720 --> 02:04:48,400
Speaker 39: don't know how to get out of Green Bay, and

2328
02:04:48,880 --> 02:04:50,720
Speaker 39: I probably made two wrong turns and I was just

2329
02:04:50,760 --> 02:04:51,560
Speaker 39: sitting in traffic.

2330
02:04:51,640 --> 02:04:52,720
Speaker 3: So I had the postgame on.

2331
02:04:53,440 --> 02:04:56,880
Speaker 19: And we all love Lap. Lap is a homer, He's

2332
02:04:56,960 --> 02:04:59,000
Speaker 19: our homer. He's history of the franchise.

2333
02:04:59,120 --> 02:04:59,680
Speaker 3: We love them.

2334
02:05:00,520 --> 02:05:02,400
Speaker 39: We need somebody who goes in the locker room and

2335
02:05:02,480 --> 02:05:04,680
Speaker 39: doesn't ask Sunshine and Lollipop questions.

2336
02:05:04,720 --> 02:05:09,800
Speaker 2: Though, yeah, I mean I think that's it's part of

2337
02:05:09,920 --> 02:05:13,120
Speaker 2: Lap's personality. And you understand Lap, you know, works for

2338
02:05:13,320 --> 02:05:17,360
Speaker 2: the Bengals and it does have a personal relationship with

2339
02:05:17,440 --> 02:05:19,120
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys. And I don't know that

2340
02:05:19,240 --> 02:05:22,240
Speaker 2: the Bengals postgame show with Dave Lapham is where you're

2341
02:05:22,240 --> 02:05:24,520
Speaker 2: going to be looking for those types of questions those

2342
02:05:24,600 --> 02:05:28,280
Speaker 2: guys are then after he comes in, or after he leaves,

2343
02:05:28,560 --> 02:05:32,080
Speaker 2: or when you know, the rest of the media comes

2344
02:05:32,080 --> 02:05:34,000
Speaker 2: in and gets to ask many of the same questions

2345
02:05:34,040 --> 02:05:35,240
Speaker 2: that you'd probably be looking for.

2346
02:05:36,800 --> 02:05:39,480
Speaker 39: Yeah, I'm not asking to embarrass anybody or press anybody,

2347
02:05:39,560 --> 02:05:42,520
Speaker 39: but I'm like, it's there's a little bit of kid

2348
02:05:42,600 --> 02:05:43,520
Speaker 39: glove stuff there.

2349
02:05:43,680 --> 02:05:44,200
Speaker 19: And you're right.

2350
02:05:44,840 --> 02:05:46,200
Speaker 39: I hope the local guys and.

2351
02:05:46,240 --> 02:05:48,320
Speaker 5: The Beat reporters, especially after.

2352
02:05:48,280 --> 02:05:50,360
Speaker 39: Jamar admitted he went in the huddle and changed to

2353
02:05:50,440 --> 02:05:52,880
Speaker 39: play every week, Zach needs to.

2354
02:05:52,920 --> 02:05:55,280
Speaker 19: Be asked about giving up play calling by the local

2355
02:05:55,360 --> 02:05:55,680
Speaker 19: guys and.

2356
02:05:55,720 --> 02:05:56,280
Speaker 7: The Beat report.

2357
02:05:56,400 --> 02:05:58,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm sure he will. And Jeff, thank you

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Speaker 2: for the phone call. I'm sure he will. And I

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Speaker 2: didn't get to hear the whole thing yesterday. I got

2360
02:06:03,080 --> 02:06:04,680
Speaker 2: to hear bits and pieces of it, but I would

2361
02:06:04,720 --> 02:06:09,800
Speaker 2: imagine play calling was brought up again. I don't expect

2362
02:06:09,840 --> 02:06:12,680
Speaker 2: it to change, but I think it's fair to ask

2363
02:06:12,760 --> 02:06:15,480
Speaker 2: him about it, especially if the offense continues to underperform.

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Speaker 2: That's it for phone calls today. We are out of

2365
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Speaker 2: time because we've got to take a break and check

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Speaker 2: in with mo Egger, who's standing by for quick hits

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Speaker 2: from Oakley Greens ahead of the Moeger Show this afternoon

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Speaker 2: from three to six. That's next right here on Cincy

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Speaker 2: three sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 1: See ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's sports station. It's time for

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Speaker 1: Cincy three sixty Quick.

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Speaker 2: Hits on ESPN fifteenth thirs looking for Yes, indeed it

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Speaker 2: is Welcome in to Cincy three sixties Quick Hits, joined

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Speaker 2: now by our friend Moegar live from Oakley Greens where

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Speaker 2: the Tony or no, We're the mo Egger Show got lee.

2376
02:06:55,680 --> 02:06:58,280
Speaker 2: I was thinking Tony and Mow Football Show, because to

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Speaker 2: really Today's Monday.

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Speaker 3: I got really excited for a second. I screwed that up.

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Speaker 2: Today's Monday to me, and I was just as that's

2380
02:07:07,600 --> 02:07:08,720
Speaker 2: muscle memory right there.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Mo, how are you?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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02:07:11,400 --> 02:07:13,400
Speaker 40: I'm wonderful. How about It's nice to have you back.

2384
02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:14,600
Speaker 40: It looks like you had it and it sounds like

2385
02:07:14,600 --> 02:07:16,200
Speaker 40: I had an awesome time at lambeau Field.

2386
02:07:16,280 --> 02:07:18,000
Speaker 3: Thanks man. Yeah, I won't shut up about it. It

2387
02:07:18,080 --> 02:07:19,240
Speaker 3: was the coolest thing I ever got to do.

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02:07:19,400 --> 02:07:22,600
Speaker 40: I blame you. Yeah, looked your photos looked awesome. Listening

2389
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Speaker 40: to you talk about it looked awesome, and uh yeah,

2390
02:07:25,800 --> 02:07:26,960
Speaker 40: good for you man, that's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you. You've got a sports talk radio show

2392
02:07:29,680 --> 02:07:31,520
Speaker 3: coming up this afternoon. What's gonna be on it.

2393
02:07:32,200 --> 02:07:34,320
Speaker 40: We're gonna have Dave laphamon and I'm gonna ask him,

2394
02:07:34,320 --> 02:07:36,320
Speaker 40: why don't you ask tougher questions in the locker room.

2395
02:07:37,320 --> 02:07:41,720
Speaker 40: It's live radio, man, it's live. Okay, Like here's here's

2396
02:07:41,760 --> 02:07:45,280
Speaker 40: why that is live. Okay, everybody else goes in there.

2397
02:07:45,320 --> 02:07:48,200
Speaker 40: It's not live on radio. It's not live on TV.

2398
02:07:48,400 --> 02:07:52,680
Speaker 40: For the most part. My man's live. Like you hear him, like, Okay,

2399
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Speaker 40: let's see if I can catch up to Noah Fan. No,

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Speaker 40: I got a few minutes. No, just okay, that tough

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Speaker 40: one out there today.

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Speaker 4: It's live.

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02:08:00,320 --> 02:08:05,200
Speaker 40: So he's gonna live on the air. Hey, or big o'

2404
02:08:05,400 --> 02:08:07,480
Speaker 40: Orlando talk talk to you, Okay, get you for a

2405
02:08:07,520 --> 02:08:08,760
Speaker 40: few minutes. Okay, I know you're naked.

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02:08:08,840 --> 02:08:08,960
Speaker 5: Hey.

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02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:09,960
Speaker 37: Yeah.

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02:08:11,200 --> 02:08:13,000
Speaker 3: And they guys did a good job on on Michael

2409
02:08:13,040 --> 02:08:16,520
Speaker 3: Parsons like live, right, is there ambushing people? No, So

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02:08:17,240 --> 02:08:18,720
Speaker 3: there's your answer, Dave.

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02:08:18,920 --> 02:08:21,240
Speaker 40: That is live. That is and to me, it's I

2412
02:08:21,400 --> 02:08:24,080
Speaker 40: love that part of the place the best. It's because

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02:08:24,120 --> 02:08:26,800
Speaker 40: it's unscripted, and I you know, I don't like it

2414
02:08:26,840 --> 02:08:29,160
Speaker 40: when the Bengals lose, but I like it. I like

2415
02:08:29,280 --> 02:08:32,120
Speaker 40: listening to lap do that when they lose because you know,

2416
02:08:32,880 --> 02:08:34,120
Speaker 40: he's got to be hush tones.

2417
02:08:34,400 --> 02:08:35,520
Speaker 3: That's really hard to do.

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02:08:36,360 --> 02:08:38,560
Speaker 40: It's really hard to do hush tones. So it's it's

2419
02:08:38,600 --> 02:08:41,400
Speaker 40: almost like he's reporting from the trenches of war. Yeah, right,

2420
02:08:42,240 --> 02:08:44,000
Speaker 40: and he's got to walk up to these guys and

2421
02:08:44,240 --> 02:08:47,320
Speaker 40: ask them while he's on the radio if they'll and

2422
02:08:47,440 --> 02:08:49,600
Speaker 40: most of them are cool, most of them. Yeah, it's

2423
02:08:49,640 --> 02:08:52,360
Speaker 40: Dave Lapham. You don't. But there have been times, yeah,

2424
02:08:52,360 --> 02:08:56,120
Speaker 40: where you've like, see if I see if I get

2425
02:08:56,120 --> 02:08:59,640
Speaker 40: a few minutes here with with Geno Atkins, Gino, Yeah, okay, okay,

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02:08:59,720 --> 02:09:01,240
Speaker 40: I go, okay, cool, you're naked?

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02:09:01,320 --> 02:09:03,160
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, uh see.

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02:09:03,040 --> 02:09:04,680
Speaker 40: If I can see if I can grab Andre Smith

2429
02:09:04,720 --> 02:09:09,360
Speaker 40: here for Andre? Yeah, okay, no, no, okay, Andre doesn't

2430
02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:10,000
Speaker 40: want to talk that.

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02:09:10,000 --> 02:09:12,480
Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever heard laps say you're naked

2432
02:09:12,560 --> 02:09:13,080
Speaker 3: on the air though.

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02:09:13,120 --> 02:09:14,960
Speaker 40: Who's gonna win a who's gonna get the one hundred

2434
02:09:14,960 --> 02:09:17,880
Speaker 40: dollars gift card? I'll tell you what today we're uh

2435
02:09:18,800 --> 02:09:21,280
Speaker 40: I give that to Jermaine Grusham. I tell you what, Yeah,

2436
02:09:21,280 --> 02:09:21,960
Speaker 40: one hundred dollars.

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02:09:22,160 --> 02:09:22,440
Speaker 5: I mean.

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02:09:22,920 --> 02:09:26,920
Speaker 40: So, so there's there's perhaps why you're you're you're not

2439
02:09:27,080 --> 02:09:30,600
Speaker 40: exactly getting somebody doing muck raking journalism live on the

2440
02:09:30,680 --> 02:09:31,520
Speaker 40: Ring muck raking.

2441
02:09:31,880 --> 02:09:34,240
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, uh so what is actually going to be.

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02:09:34,600 --> 02:09:36,400
Speaker 40: My lapse back? Dude's going to the Ring of Honor

2443
02:09:36,760 --> 02:09:39,240
Speaker 40: dumping on him for his postgame and I know, I know,

2444
02:09:41,760 --> 02:09:42,480
Speaker 40: Uh what do you want to know?

2445
02:09:42,520 --> 02:09:42,560
Speaker 26: What?

2446
02:09:42,680 --> 02:09:46,160
Speaker 17: Some me? I.

2447
02:09:46,920 --> 02:09:50,520
Speaker 40: I don't believe in moral victories, but I believe in context. Austin,

2448
02:09:51,360 --> 02:09:53,360
Speaker 40: I think one of the most important things in life

2449
02:09:53,520 --> 02:09:58,560
Speaker 40: is context, understanding context, and I will make that make sense.

2450
02:09:58,640 --> 02:09:59,960
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk more about Mike time.

2451
02:10:00,840 --> 02:10:03,600
Speaker 40: I love Mike Tomlin because what he said about what

2452
02:10:03,720 --> 02:10:07,080
Speaker 40: the Browns did with Joe Flacco is not inaccurate. We'll

2453
02:10:07,080 --> 02:10:10,000
Speaker 40: spend a few minutes on that. I believe in the Bearcats.

2454
02:10:10,640 --> 02:10:12,480
Speaker 40: Now that's not me being a homer, but I believe

2455
02:10:12,480 --> 02:10:14,240
Speaker 40: in the Bearcats. Last year, you see was five and

2456
02:10:14,280 --> 02:10:17,200
Speaker 40: two and then fell apart. I do not think that's

2457
02:10:17,280 --> 02:10:21,360
Speaker 40: gonna happen this season. For one simple reason. You'll hear

2458
02:10:21,480 --> 02:10:24,080
Speaker 40: Jamar Chase, you'll hear Joe Flacco. I think some are

2459
02:10:24,160 --> 02:10:25,800
Speaker 40: making a bigger deal than they need to out of

2460
02:10:25,880 --> 02:10:29,080
Speaker 40: Jamar Chase changing a play. Paul Danner Junior is going

2461
02:10:29,160 --> 02:10:30,960
Speaker 40: to join us at four o'clock. He can't be here

2462
02:10:31,000 --> 02:10:33,320
Speaker 40: in person because the weird week. This is their big

2463
02:10:33,400 --> 02:10:35,720
Speaker 40: heavy work day, but he's still going to check in

2464
02:10:36,680 --> 02:10:40,200
Speaker 40: at four h five. Our guy, Sean sayad Stats and

2465
02:10:40,240 --> 02:10:43,480
Speaker 40: Scheme newsletter, love talking ball with him at five point twenty.

2466
02:10:43,960 --> 02:10:46,480
Speaker 40: And I am going to tell you what you should

2467
02:10:46,520 --> 02:10:49,160
Speaker 40: say to the next person who tells you that college

2468
02:10:49,240 --> 02:10:51,120
Speaker 40: football and college sports are broken.

2469
02:10:53,040 --> 02:10:55,960
Speaker 2: James Franklin got fired, and I was hoping he would

2470
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Speaker 2: be the head coach at Penn State from now until

2471
02:10:58,440 --> 02:10:59,080
Speaker 2: the end of time.

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Speaker 3: What did you make of the firing of James Franklin.

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Speaker 31: Well, it sort of.

2474
02:11:05,360 --> 02:11:08,760
Speaker 40: Felt like when they lost to Northwestern, Like, I mean,

2475
02:11:08,800 --> 02:11:12,080
Speaker 40: that was audible on TV. They were chanting fire Franklin.

2476
02:11:12,480 --> 02:11:17,400
Speaker 40: It felt like it was inevitable. I think that job's interesting,

2477
02:11:17,800 --> 02:11:21,280
Speaker 40: right because he did a good job there, you know,

2478
02:11:21,760 --> 02:11:25,160
Speaker 40: but folks forget like that program was given a death

2479
02:11:25,280 --> 02:11:28,880
Speaker 40: penalty of sorts in the aftermath of the Joe Paturno issue.

2480
02:11:29,160 --> 02:11:32,200
Speaker 40: They thought they had their guy with Bill O'Brien. Program

2481
02:11:32,360 --> 02:11:34,480
Speaker 40: was kind of left for dead. But the Big Ten

2482
02:11:34,600 --> 02:11:38,240
Speaker 40: is bigger, The Big Ten is tougher. Ohio State's not

2483
02:11:38,360 --> 02:11:42,760
Speaker 40: going anywhere. Michigan's not going anywhere, Oregon's not going anywhere.

2484
02:11:44,200 --> 02:11:46,160
Speaker 40: At the same time, I would imagine they have very

2485
02:11:46,240 --> 02:11:50,520
Speaker 40: deep pockets. I just think that that gig is is interesting.

2486
02:11:51,000 --> 02:11:52,880
Speaker 40: I think it's going to be really interesting to see

2487
02:11:53,560 --> 02:11:58,640
Speaker 40: how and when James Franklin resurfaces, because in any in

2488
02:11:58,760 --> 02:12:01,640
Speaker 40: any like relaxed media setting I've seen him in it's

2489
02:12:01,680 --> 02:12:04,760
Speaker 40: pretty good now in media settings where he's you know,

2490
02:12:04,920 --> 02:12:07,640
Speaker 40: kind of in season or being asked to explain things

2491
02:12:07,680 --> 02:12:09,320
Speaker 40: happening with his program, he's a little bit of a

2492
02:12:09,400 --> 02:12:12,920
Speaker 40: cry baby. I think it's going to be interesting to

2493
02:12:12,920 --> 02:12:14,640
Speaker 40: see if he's one of these guys who uses the

2494
02:12:14,720 --> 02:12:17,320
Speaker 40: media to kind of rehabilitate his reputation a little bit

2495
02:12:17,440 --> 02:12:21,000
Speaker 40: and make people forget how it ended at at Penn State.

2496
02:12:21,320 --> 02:12:24,160
Speaker 2: And he also has, if I'm not mistaken, a clause

2497
02:12:24,240 --> 02:12:26,720
Speaker 2: in in that buyout that basically says he has to

2498
02:12:27,480 --> 02:12:29,600
Speaker 2: apply for a job, whether that be in coaching or

2499
02:12:29,680 --> 02:12:31,920
Speaker 2: in the media, which I think is an interesting No.

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02:12:32,160 --> 02:12:36,640
Speaker 40: I would I would like print out applications and just apply, yeah,

2501
02:12:37,200 --> 02:12:39,960
Speaker 40: and and and then make sure they saw it. But

2502
02:12:40,080 --> 02:12:42,360
Speaker 40: then tell the person I'm giving the application to, like,

2503
02:12:42,560 --> 02:12:43,840
Speaker 40: can you just put this at the bottom of the

2504
02:12:43,880 --> 02:12:45,120
Speaker 40: pile making forty.

2505
02:12:47,120 --> 02:12:49,520
Speaker 2: Do you think Brian Callahan will be applying to be

2506
02:12:49,680 --> 02:12:53,520
Speaker 2: an offensive assistant for the Cincinnati Bengals Hugh.

2507
02:12:53,520 --> 02:12:55,480
Speaker 40: Jackson two point zero right. I talked about this with

2508
02:12:55,880 --> 02:13:00,800
Speaker 40: Rappin yesterday. I think there's some validity to that, And

2509
02:13:00,880 --> 02:13:04,120
Speaker 40: I look at that two different ways. One is, you

2510
02:13:04,280 --> 02:13:07,000
Speaker 40: can't have enough smart people in the building. And I

2511
02:13:07,080 --> 02:13:10,080
Speaker 40: think when it comes to quarterbacks and offensive football, Brian

2512
02:13:10,200 --> 02:13:13,600
Speaker 40: Callahan is probably a pretty smart guy. But if the

2513
02:13:13,760 --> 02:13:18,680
Speaker 40: key to a turnaround is hiring Brian Callahan, then shouldn't

2514
02:13:18,680 --> 02:13:18,880
Speaker 40: he just.

2515
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Speaker 7: Be the head coach.

2516
02:13:22,040 --> 02:13:23,000
Speaker 40: We need Cali back?

2517
02:13:23,160 --> 02:13:23,320
Speaker 38: Well?

2518
02:13:23,480 --> 02:13:25,000
Speaker 3: Okay, well, then what do we have all these other

2519
02:13:25,080 --> 02:13:25,400
Speaker 3: dudes for?

2520
02:13:25,640 --> 02:13:26,000
Speaker 40: What do we have?

2521
02:13:26,120 --> 02:13:26,840
Speaker 5: Zach Taylor, for.

2522
02:13:28,320 --> 02:13:32,000
Speaker 2: Tiger Woods, is having another surgery, this time on his back.

2523
02:13:32,080 --> 02:13:33,760
Speaker 2: Will he ever play professionally again?

2524
02:13:34,600 --> 02:13:34,640
Speaker 10: No?

2525
02:13:35,840 --> 02:13:36,600
Speaker 3: And I don't want him to.

2526
02:13:37,800 --> 02:13:41,440
Speaker 40: I don't want to watch Tiger Woods stumbling around shooting

2527
02:13:41,880 --> 02:13:45,880
Speaker 40: in eighty three and missing the cut like I don't

2528
02:13:46,000 --> 02:13:55,800
Speaker 40: love watching goat Like struggle to compete. I'm especially for

2529
02:13:55,880 --> 02:13:58,680
Speaker 40: somebody like that who brought so many of us to

2530
02:13:58,800 --> 02:14:02,520
Speaker 40: the sport. For a guy who was so good, so dominant,

2531
02:14:02,640 --> 02:14:07,640
Speaker 40: so irad defining, so sport defining. Watching him recently hasn't

2532
02:14:07,640 --> 02:14:12,000
Speaker 40: been enjoyable at all. Watching him struggle to make cuts

2533
02:14:13,080 --> 02:14:16,880
Speaker 40: in tournaments, there's no fun in that to me. Like

2534
02:14:17,280 --> 02:14:19,440
Speaker 40: I said this at the time, the twenty nineteen, I

2535
02:14:19,640 --> 02:14:21,840
Speaker 40: was hoping that would be his walk off. You know what,

2536
02:14:22,160 --> 02:14:24,560
Speaker 40: I came back in ten years, I think ten years,

2537
02:14:24,680 --> 02:14:27,760
Speaker 40: nine years after my last major, I won the Masters.

2538
02:14:28,280 --> 02:14:30,160
Speaker 40: I was hoping that would be the walk off because

2539
02:14:30,160 --> 02:14:34,760
Speaker 40: it's a cool story the last six years. Because of

2540
02:14:34,840 --> 02:14:37,680
Speaker 40: his health and because of his age, I don't get

2541
02:14:37,720 --> 02:14:39,480
Speaker 40: excited when I see that he's in the field of

2542
02:14:39,520 --> 02:14:42,840
Speaker 40: a major. I go, okay, if I want to see him,

2543
02:14:42,880 --> 02:14:45,520
Speaker 40: I better watch on Thursday or Friday than what I do.

2544
02:14:47,000 --> 02:14:50,200
Speaker 40: That's not Tiger Woods. I don't love watching dudes who

2545
02:14:50,200 --> 02:14:53,400
Speaker 40: are the greatest of all time. Look, they all like

2546
02:14:53,480 --> 02:14:56,480
Speaker 40: everybody's skill set declines. It's one thing to have your

2547
02:14:56,520 --> 02:14:59,080
Speaker 40: skill set decline, it's something else to just not be competitive.

2548
02:14:59,440 --> 02:15:01,440
Speaker 40: And I don't think Tiger Woods on a regular basis

2549
02:15:01,480 --> 02:15:02,120
Speaker 40: can be competitive.

2550
02:15:02,160 --> 02:15:03,760
Speaker 2: So I don't want to watch that very quickly. What

2551
02:15:03,800 --> 02:15:05,840
Speaker 2: do you think about Monday night football doubleheaders?

2552
02:15:08,400 --> 02:15:11,120
Speaker 40: I don't know. Like last night was cool. There were

2553
02:15:11,160 --> 02:15:13,160
Speaker 40: two LCS games on one was a blowout. There were

2554
02:15:13,200 --> 02:15:15,440
Speaker 40: two Monday night football games on they were both pretty good.

2555
02:15:17,360 --> 02:15:19,000
Speaker 40: To me, it depends on the quality of the games,

2556
02:15:19,560 --> 02:15:21,240
Speaker 40: and I think most of the time when we've had

2557
02:15:21,280 --> 02:15:24,640
Speaker 40: double headers, one of the games and sometimes both haven't

2558
02:15:24,680 --> 02:15:26,880
Speaker 40: been very good. But like last night, that was I

2559
02:15:27,000 --> 02:15:30,120
Speaker 40: enjoyed that I enjoyed watching. I didn't pay as much

2560
02:15:30,120 --> 02:15:32,400
Speaker 40: attention to Seattle Toronto because it got out of hand.

2561
02:15:32,440 --> 02:15:36,160
Speaker 40: But the National League Championship Series game was awesome, and

2562
02:15:36,320 --> 02:15:39,160
Speaker 40: the two NFL games were pretty good. Chicago and Washington

2563
02:15:39,240 --> 02:15:42,840
Speaker 40: was a really fun game. Not opposed to it, I

2564
02:15:42,920 --> 02:15:44,760
Speaker 40: wish they would have staggered them a little bit more,

2565
02:15:44,800 --> 02:15:46,920
Speaker 40: but you know, neither was played on the West Coast,

2566
02:15:47,240 --> 02:15:48,800
Speaker 40: so I guess you're not going to do that. I'm

2567
02:15:48,840 --> 02:15:51,520
Speaker 40: not opposed, but I think we sour on them when

2568
02:15:51,560 --> 02:15:53,080
Speaker 40: the games just simply aren't that good.

2569
02:15:53,640 --> 02:15:57,600
Speaker 3: Fair enough. Mo Eggar coming up this afternoon Oakley Greens, MO.

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02:15:57,800 --> 02:16:01,280
Speaker 2: Thank you all right, man. Thanks That is Moeggar. The

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Speaker 2: Moeger Radio Show is next from three to six. He

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Speaker 2: is live over at Oakley Greens. Go check him out. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: I'll be back here tomorrow starting at noon for the

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Speaker 2: regularly scheduled Sincy three sixty from noon to three. Thanks

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Speaker 2: so much for listening. Back at it tomorrow. MOE is

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Speaker 2: next on ESPN fifteen thirty