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Speaker 3: All they stole it, and I'm fine with it.

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Speaker 1: Then Pittsburgh Steelers emerge victorious twenty seven to twenty two yesterday. Now, look,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of Steeler talk out there this morning,

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Speaker 1: got robbed and the refs screwed the rave Who cares

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Speaker 3: It's a wit ah, This doesn't solve any of their

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Speaker 1: Shup, I just shut up and enjoy We beat the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: Oh the ref screwed him almost like even better. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I'm not in the camp of people who were

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Speaker 3: I think they got a bitch there. It didn't matter.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers were great in the first half and even

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Speaker 5: Going into the game, you knew that the Ravens actually

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Speaker 3: And we saw it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're having them on today because of all of

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Speaker 3: We thought we can't wait till Tuesday for this, but.

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Speaker 5: And I'm always down for an upset harball like put

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Speaker 3: They got screwed. I think they got screwed. But you know,

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Speaker 5: Sure, the likely touchdown or not touchdown, that one is

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Speaker 3: But it changes their season.

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Speaker 6: It changes their season.

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Speaker 5: But even in radio, we have you know, we understand

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Speaker 6: And there are certain fundamentals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you have to growl. I am fine with it, though,

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Speaker 3: I don't care.

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Speaker 1: As long as that eighth game is against the Ravens

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Speaker 5: So Mike Logan and I like post up on one floor,

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Speaker 3: Sound like that was like stolen valor like you're not

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Speaker 1: But speaking about bad sound, how about the referees. Mike

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Speaker 7: As earlier this year that.

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Speaker 3: You're right, that's a better example.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but there's a million reasons for Ravens fans to

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think might happen today.

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Speaker 1: See, you guys got that, you know, off the schneid

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Speaker 9: Yeah, before he got there, they had the most losses

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Speaker 9: You can hear it in my voice. I had barely anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, TJ had the stripsack touchdown to start the game.

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Speaker 7: You know when you're a real team and when you're not.

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Speaker 1: And well, Indiana is and you have the quarterback and

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Speaker 7: Amazing, it's so silly.

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Speaker 9: I've never seen a quarterback or anyone on any postgame

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he is very wholesome. It looks like an SNL

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Speaker 1: luck to you now the bulkabitt he drawing the ire

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Speaker 3: You know it was it was a game that.

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Speaker 1: My buddy's like, I thought I was having a heart

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Speaker 3: Now, if you.

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Speaker 1: Were hoping that those reports about Mike Tomlin's option being

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Speaker 3: Of it didn't have to be that close.

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Speaker 1: He sets it up for his defense to shut down

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Speaker 3: You gotta be a little more aggressive with.

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Speaker 1: The league, but he hates doing them. Jeans Serrator, as

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Speaker 1: us at six forty five, and Rob King, Voice of

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Speaker 3: Coming up at nine o'clock.

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Speaker 1: But there's a lot of sports to talk about around

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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh spectrum. Abby as I was saying, Buccos supposedly

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Speaker 1: Penguins cannot get to w after that. So mich will

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Speaker 1: come in next to the post game yesterday, and I'm

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Speaker 1: guessing that the tenor of the calls was pretty pleasant,

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Speaker 1: because anytime you beat the Ravens, and I don't care

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Speaker 1: how you beat the Ravens, it's a good day. No.

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Speaker 5: I had a long drive from Ross Draver on the

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Speaker 6: Was pleasant and a little less drunk than they usually are.

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Speaker 3: Nobody going, I still't want to fire Tom.

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Speaker 5: No, Actually I didn't get any of those oh Man

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Speaker 5: that's shocking, all right, Michael, join us next.

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Speaker 1: Your Pittsburgh Steelers are in first place in the AFC North.

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Speaker 10: Can you play the greatest fall in the world for.

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Speaker 3: Me only if you can dick it.

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Speaker 1: Morning Show and Mike, what a game yesterday? Controversy surrounding

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Speaker 1: this one, but I'm happy to be on the right

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Speaker 3: You know, a controversy.

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Speaker 12: The controversy I believe lies in how these rules are

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Speaker 3: Couldn't agree more. We'll get to that in a little bit. Sports.

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Speaker 12: That's a I brought to by Bridgeville Plants. Let's first

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Speaker 12: The Steelers met the challenge that was playing the Ravens

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Speaker 13: It's all about practice, you know, when you when you

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Speaker 12: They did make a lot of place. They also were

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Speaker 12: we can have a whole other conversation about whether or

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Speaker 12: not the games we watch should be officiated by some

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Speaker 12: Well not in this case, but you know what I mean, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Couldn't agree with you more, as I said, glad to

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Speaker 12: I thought he had it, and as he hit the ground,

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Speaker 1: Goes to the runner, it is okay, Well then all right,

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Mike tom And also thought his team was ready even

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Speaker 14: I just think we were an aggressive poster all day.

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Speaker 14: I just think that's how we got out of bed

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Speaker 3: I agreed at first half, especially.

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Speaker 1: How did they How were they that ineffective?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, the one drive got scuttled by the Rogers play.

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Speaker 12: Now he actually said he was trying to bat that down.

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Speaker 15: No, he was.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I believe him or not.

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Speaker 12: They batted it up, but by him catching it, now

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Speaker 12: So what he can are you gonna check it down

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Speaker 12: And then the last drive where they were backed up

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Speaker 12: You know, like just throw not very much because there

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Speaker 12: Baltimore still had its timeouts to go run run. Stupid

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Speaker 12: pass that had no chance. I didn't like that series.

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Speaker 1: He hated that series, and that is classic Mike Tomlin football.

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Speaker 3: Well he's trying to hatch that lead, you know.

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Speaker 1: Look, I'm not giving him, yeah, I'm just saying he

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Speaker 1: them up ten ten more yards, which definitely helped because

444
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Speaker 1: it nullified the return backed it up ten more and

445
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Speaker 1: then the Ravens took an illegal formation to start all

446
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Speaker 1: of those things. That one, two, three, That was the game.

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Speaker 1: As soon as all those three things happened in Unison,

448
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Speaker 1: I was like, that just won the Steelers a game.

449
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Speaker 1: It's going to be nearly impossible for Baltimore to do

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Speaker 1: now they almost did it. You know what, I thought

451
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Speaker 1: they won the game when when high miss sacked the

452
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Speaker 1: Jackson on the ground. I just thought it was going

453
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Speaker 1: to be too hard once they got backed up another

454
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Speaker 1: ten yards because you can really just play prevent there

455
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Speaker 1: and watch the Steelers play much defense this year. I

456
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Speaker 1: here's the weird thing. They gave up two hundred and

457
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Speaker 1: fifty yards rushing whatever the hell it was seventeen Yeah, okay,

458
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Speaker 1: North to nor two hundred again, but it still looked

459
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Speaker 1: better than it did against the.

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Speaker 12: Bills, and it was except it gave up the wrong

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Speaker 12: the long run to Keaton Mitchell.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the fifty six arder kind of helps it hulk

463
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Speaker 1: and get smoked.

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Speaker 3: On that one.

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Speaker 12: A couple guys had a shot at it, and then

466
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Speaker 12: once he got to the once he hit the hole,

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Speaker 12: he was score. Yeah, but it was better. I mean,

468
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Speaker 12: they did a credible job against Derek. I thought they

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Speaker 12: did credible, not great, no, but didn't stick. He's awesome though.

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Speaker 12: So it wasn't like the Buffalo thing where you just

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Speaker 12: you can't stop James Cook.

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Speaker 1: But it looked like they had a cohesive defensive plan

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Speaker 1: that they all bought into.

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Speaker 3: And executed for the first three quarters of that game. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'd say I'd say so.

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Speaker 12: Now it helps that Henry is a little more predictable

477
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Speaker 12: than Cook because he's not a bounce it out guy.

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Speaker 12: You know, he's gonna run outside when they tossed it

479
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Speaker 12: to him, and he's gonna run inside when they handed

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Speaker 12: to him. And it's like stopping a freight train either way.

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Speaker 12: But you know, you know where the tracks are going.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you.

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Speaker 1: Lamar is a complete I mean he is a mystery

484
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Speaker 1: wrapped in a riddle. I like he makes throws sometimes

485
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Speaker 1: that are absolutely incredible and kind of watching Caleb Williams

486
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Speaker 1: in the Lake game. I'm like, this looks like he's

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Speaker 1: three steps away from Lamar, like he's almost there because

488
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Speaker 1: he's doing the same thing. But his heel or ankle

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Speaker 1: was obviously good to go yesterday because he was he

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Speaker 1: was running the ball. He evaded the way he evades

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Speaker 1: the rush effortlessly too. Is It's just such a unique thing,

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Speaker 1: and I can't believe they don't have more success with him.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe they didn't readoption them to death.

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Speaker 1: Well maybe when they ran that it worked, but maybe

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Speaker 1: that's just it is. He can't put that. You know,

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Speaker 1: maybe he was overperforming on a hurt ankle and they

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Speaker 1: didn't want to lose him for the rest of the

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Speaker 1: run here, I don't know.

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Speaker 12: Well, their run's not going to be as long as

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Speaker 12: maybe they're not dead yet, but they're in a tough spot.

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Speaker 12: Do we care about the poor report now or.

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Speaker 3: Are you going to just move on? Well? No, I

503
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Speaker 3: mean it's the story, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of good ancillary stories around this, but

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Speaker 1: the rest interpretation and implementation of these rules is the story.

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Speaker 1: And as I told Abby earlier, nothing's gonna piss off

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Speaker 1: Ravens fans more than hearing Jean's territor on the Steelers

508
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Speaker 1: flagship station today saying they got it right.

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Speaker 3: Good. Let's have them on all this awesome.

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Speaker 1: Let's have them sit in with Michelle. Let's seventh to

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Speaker 1: drive home.

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Speaker 3: In Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: Pucklick's backing up and those calls were still correct.

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Speaker 15: Uh.

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Speaker 12: Two guys interviewed by a pool reporter yesterday in Baltimore,

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Speaker 12: NFL Vice President of Instant Replay, Mark Butterworth.

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Speaker 1: I guess he was just on site. My experience with

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Speaker 1: missus butter sun Mark, Yes.

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Speaker 12: Usually just talk to the referee but also referee Alex Moore,

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Speaker 12: just to try to condense these down because there's a lot,

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Speaker 12: a lot of layers here on the likely non touchdown.

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Speaker 12: Butterworth says, quote, the third step is an act common

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Speaker 12: to the game, and before he could get the third

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Speaker 12: foot down, the ball was ripped out. Therefore it was

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Speaker 12: an incomplete pass and that was consistent with Gino's interpretation

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Speaker 12: during the live broadcast. Tomlin said after the game he

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Speaker 12: thought it was not a touchdown. He was not surprised.

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Speaker 12: He might be the only one.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's got to say that. I mean if that

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Speaker 3: was his I mean, obviously, I can't believe we got

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Speaker 3: away with that. Obviously that should have been a touchdown.

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Speaker 12: Butterworth on the Aaron Rodgers play, the tip pass that

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Speaker 12: he caught and then was ruled down, and it wasn't

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Speaker 12: an interception. The offensive player had controlled the ball and

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Speaker 12: as he was going to the ground there was a

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Speaker 12: hand in there, but he never lost control of the

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Speaker 12: ball and then his knees hit the ground in control.

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Speaker 12: So therefore by rule he is down by contact. And

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Speaker 12: then the one, the one that I thought they got

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Speaker 12: totally screwed on, was the unnecessary roughness on the christ

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Speaker 12: History one that they took off the board and then

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Speaker 12: the Steels ended up getting a touchdown there. The referee

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Speaker 12: was interviewed about that one.

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Speaker 3: What is it, Alex Moore?

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Speaker 12: Yes, Alex Moore quote, you cannot make any forcible contact to.

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Speaker 3: That player, meaning the long snapper.

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Speaker 12: The calling official felt like the contact rose to the

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Speaker 12: level of being unnecessary against a defensive player. I thought

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Speaker 12: he was trying to hit the guard and he got

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Speaker 12: a ballots and he brushed him.

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Speaker 3: Exactly what happened.

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Speaker 12: I mean, it's football, guys, Come on, defensive player Harbaugh. Obviously,

553
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Speaker 12: John Harbaugh not happy with any of this. He was

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Speaker 12: asked about the likely play.

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Speaker 3: Quote.

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Speaker 12: The explanation was that a third foot didn't get down.

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Speaker 12: That's what they said on the Rogers play. Harbaugh says, quote,

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Speaker 12: it's not an officiating issue. It comes from New York.

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Speaker 12: But when you're making a catch, you have to survive

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Speaker 12: the ground. He didn't survive the ground. He's not down

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Speaker 12: by contact. He was catching the ball on the way

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Speaker 12: down with another person. So you have to make a

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Speaker 12: catch there and survive the ground. I don't know why

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Speaker 12: it was ruled the way it was on that one.

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Speaker 12: Now what I saw was Rogers catch the ball and

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Speaker 12: then the Ravens player tried to.

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Speaker 3: Get his hand in. I never thought he cleanly caught it. Well,

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Speaker 3: I guess this is this is the interpretive part of it.

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Speaker 12: But if if he catches a pass and he falls

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Speaker 12: to his knees, he's down, you can't come up and

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Speaker 12: then rip the ball.

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Speaker 3: Out of his hand. That's not how I saw it, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I saw it as contested as he was going to

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Speaker 1: the ground.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe he was. But but but like you said, though,

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Speaker 3: tiger goes to the runner.

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Speaker 1: If it goes to the you know, the guy who's

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Speaker 1: down or the offensive player in that situation.

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Speaker 3: Then then then it's his small I thought they got

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Speaker 3: that one right.

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Speaker 15: Again.

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Speaker 12: Stupid rule, real stupid rule, the unnecessary, roughest penalty.

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Speaker 15: Quote.

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Speaker 12: I didn't see the head and neck contact. That's what

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Speaker 12: I did not see. Uh, which you need to have

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Speaker 12: head and neck gary contact there and it has to

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Speaker 12: be forceful contact, not incidental contact.

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Speaker 3: He's right about that. It was incidental.

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Speaker 1: He was yelling at he was yelling that at the

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Speaker 1: ref on the sideline that he and you say it

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Speaker 1: head neck, head neck.

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Speaker 15: You know.

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Speaker 1: What a win for the Steelers. Controversial though it may be.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. Seven and six atop the AFC North.

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Speaker 1: Do we still have problems? Yes, many, but you know

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Speaker 1: what they solved a few yesterday and that's the goal.

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Speaker 12: And you know, the story number one is officiating one dred.

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Speaker 12: Story number two is for three quarters. You had the

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Speaker 12: Aaron Rodgers that you signed up for. That was exactly

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Speaker 12: how Mike Tomlin phrased, this is why you do business

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Speaker 12: with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna do business significent in the first

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Speaker 1: three quarters, Tim Ben's joining us when we come back

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Speaker 1: to this commercial break. Abby's got your news at the

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Speaker 1: top of the hour.

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Speaker 5: Jean Simmons has never heard the concept. Don't speak ill of.

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Speaker 3: Such an idiot.

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Speaker 1: Jean Sterotor will be on today instead of tomorrow, since

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Speaker 1: yesterday was such a controversial performance by the Zebras in Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: But alas it matters not for your Pittsburgh Steeers, who

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Speaker 1: emerged victorious twenty seven to twenty two.

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Speaker 3: I got a quote from Nelson after the game.

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Speaker 16: No matter how you listen, DVE as always there. Listen

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Speaker 16: on the free iHeart radio app on all your devices

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Speaker 16: and save us as a pre sins.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you point five DV.

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Speaker 3: Is your radio home?

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Speaker 1: At the Pittsburgh Steelers one a two point five DV

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Speaker 1: Steelers over the Baltimore Ravens yesterday twenty seven to twenty two.

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Speaker 1: And boy, there were a lot of controversial calls, maybe

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Speaker 1: none more so than this one. Why actually passed looking

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Speaker 1: throw us toward the end zone? It's Isaiah likely and

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Speaker 1: it's knocked out, but not until he's in the the

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Speaker 1: end zone with possession. It's a touchdown for the Ravens

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Speaker 1: and they have taken the league.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that wouldn't be how it turned out.

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Speaker 1: As we continue to watch and wait for the extra point,

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Speaker 1: I think they went to commercial even I'm not. All

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Speaker 1: I know is the referees microphone did not work, yes,

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Speaker 1: and so nobody knew what happened. And you just saw

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh on the side of the why it did not work, sir.

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Speaker 1: So you're in the Road stadium, you're taking that touchdown

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Speaker 1: off the board.

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Speaker 3: Tim Benz joining us right now, brought to you by

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Speaker 1: We're Pittsburgh shops for appliances and Benzi, what do you

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Speaker 1: make of that one?

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Speaker 3: Maybe by the letter of the law.

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Speaker 1: It's it's not a touchdown, But by any other metric,

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Speaker 1: how is that not a six point swing?

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Speaker 15: There?

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Speaker 17: Jesse James play, but standing up is what it was.

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Speaker 17: That's Jesse James without the survived the ground element that

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Speaker 17: harbor Ball brought into his complaint about the Aaron Rodgers play,

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Speaker 17: which I don't necessarily think is applicable. To be honest

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Speaker 17: with you, I mean, I'm very similar to what you

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Speaker 17: guys said in the Sports report. I think I would

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Speaker 17: rate them this way that I actually think they got

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Speaker 17: the Rogers call right, but in getting the Rogers call right.

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Speaker 17: I think they showed the ridiculous difference between the threshold

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Speaker 17: of what is considered possession on a play like that

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Speaker 17: and what is not acceptable possession based on the letter

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Speaker 17: of the law of the likely play, which I guess,

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Speaker 17: like you said, Randy, by the letter of the law,

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Speaker 17: they got it right. But that sure looked like a

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Speaker 17: touchdown with my eyes with his two feet down. And

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Speaker 17: by the way, can we just get can we get

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Speaker 17: rid of the part of the rule that says third

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Speaker 17: foot and just see third step? Yeah, third foot just

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Speaker 17: makes it sound even dumber than what it is.

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Speaker 3: And then I think pursued is.

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Speaker 17: Right that the one that they really blew was the

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Speaker 17: Christian Kunzwan like that. That's just a BA interpretation of

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Speaker 17: the rule. I don't think they did what they to

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Speaker 17: say that that rose to the level of needing a

666
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Speaker 17: flag is assnot. I would assume that you got to

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Speaker 17: credit Danny Smith for that. There must have been something

668
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Speaker 17: he saw on film or I can't remember if there's

669
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Speaker 17: a previous place kick where that happened where he said, look,

670
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Speaker 17: they're doing this, the long snapper lookout for it, and

671
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Speaker 17: they did, but they didn't that wasn't it. So I

672
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Speaker 17: guess that's how I would rate those three controversial penalties.

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Speaker 1: I thought special teams had a big day and I

674
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Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if Danny Smith did have a hand

675
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Speaker 1: in that. But despite all of the referee help for

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Speaker 1: the Steelers yesterday, did you think or what did you

677
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Speaker 1: think I should say of Mike Tomlin's response to what

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Speaker 1: has been to this point the most tumultuous week in

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Speaker 1: his coaching tenure here in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I really liked how they played in the first half.

681
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Speaker 17: I liked how they played even offensively going into the

682
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Speaker 17: third quarter. I thought they continue to have issues defensively

683
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Speaker 17: after halftime, and I will echo what you guys said

684
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Speaker 17: a few minutes ago about their offensive approach in the

685
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Speaker 17: fourth quarter. I was going insane watching those three series

686
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Speaker 17: because it was three and out, three and out, three

687
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Speaker 17: and out, and three third downs with passes short of

688
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Speaker 17: the sticks, two of which were completed, and I was

689
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Speaker 17: I was going insane because you're right, I mean, like

690
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Speaker 17: the clock element is a big part of that, because

691
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Speaker 17: if you're not going to challenge the first down marker,

692
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Speaker 17: you have to understand you know that when you're running

693
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Speaker 17: the ball, and if you like were to try something

694
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Speaker 17: to the sidelines or something downfield, they're going to stop

695
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Speaker 17: the clock with that last time out anyway in the

696
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Speaker 17: last sequence, So what's the difference in what you're saving?

697
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Speaker 17: Try to get the first down? And I guess they

698
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Speaker 17: were spooked by what happened on the Rogers play, but

699
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Speaker 17: you know, whatever happened to take a chance. And oh,

700
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Speaker 17: by the way, like I think the most underdiscussed play

701
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 17: in the whole game that I really liked was when

702
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Speaker 17: they went on that deep shot to Calvin Austin. Like

703
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Speaker 17: that took guts do that there, Like it takes a

704
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Speaker 17: shot to try to get the first down and win

705
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Speaker 17: the game.

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Speaker 3: They were begging them, daring them to try that.

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Speaker 1: Again, daring them as the word yeah, And there was

708
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Speaker 1: fifteen guys in the box, you know, like where's Jayla

709
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Speaker 1: Warren going.

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Speaker 3: It's not the.

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Speaker 17: Ultimate example of when Harball sees Tomin across the fifty

712
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 17: and uh Tomin sees Hardball across the fifty. It's the

713
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 17: gravitational poll of Steelers Ravens. You know, those two teams

714
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Speaker 17: with them there in each other's orbit, they can't help themselves,

715
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 17: but to do stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Calvin Austin was one step from being

717
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: gone on that one.

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Speaker 17: Oh yeah, like you know that and that was hey, good,

719
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Speaker 17: you know that gutsy call. Good call there, Like that's

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Speaker 17: what I was hoping to say at some point one

721
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Speaker 17: of those three sequences that could have ended the game

722
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Speaker 17: and the.

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Speaker 3: Nail on the head. And you said they got spooked

724
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Speaker 3: by the Rogers play, that was don't turn it over Jesus.

725
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Speaker 17: Quick. You know, they were so scared by the Rogers play.

726
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Speaker 17: I think on the next time they got the ball back,

727
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Speaker 17: they just wanted to punt it again to win and

728
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 17: field position on first down, send it back again.

729
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Speaker 1: But he really saw the difference in what they're able

730
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Speaker 1: to do offensively when Mount Washington went out. When you know,

731
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Speaker 1: as soon as that happened, it was like, okay, we

732
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Speaker 1: lost a big dimension of what Arthur Smith wants to do.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, they didn't run the ball well, and maybe that

734
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Speaker 17: was part of it, but in general, I just don't

735
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Speaker 17: think they were run blocking all that efficiently.

736
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Speaker 3: But they protected.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean, they they did protect Rogers. He only

738
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Speaker 17: got we didn't get sacked at all. I think he

739
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 17: only got hit once. Now he had a lot to

740
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 17: do with that. He was moving around really nicely and

741
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Speaker 17: he extended some play and some of the yardage that

742
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Speaker 17: DK got was by virtue of Rogers moving around the

743
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Speaker 17: pocket and allowing him to pop open. But you know,

744
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Speaker 17: so I guess you split the difference there with the

745
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Speaker 17: offensive line and the defense. I really liked the way

746
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 17: the defense decided late to come attack the line of scrimmage.

747
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 17: You know, I thought they made Lamar Jackson perform off platform.

748
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 17: They made him have to improvise, which normally he's great at.

749
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Speaker 17: But you know, they made it real tough on him

750
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Speaker 17: with those blitzes from Eckles and Queen and I think

751
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 17: Rams he had one too many. Eckles is great in

752
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 17: the first half. Eccles had three huge players in the

753
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Speaker 17: first half. He had a PBu in the end zone,

754
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 17: he sacked Jackson to end to drive on a third down,

755
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Speaker 17: and then he provided some sticky coverage on a play.

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Speaker 17: I thought Romo was a little gushy on because say

757
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 17: Flowers dropped the ball, but I mean he was in

758
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 17: the neighborhood and had to make him think a little bit.

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Speaker 17: But all in all, I thought Eccles had a really

760
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 17: nice game on defense, and Queen had a really gutty

761
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 17: game on defense, and high Smith came up.

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Speaker 15: With the play late.

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Speaker 17: And there were a few plays in the first half

764
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Speaker 17: where TJ. Watch scraped down the backside of the line

765
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Speaker 17: of scrimmage to catch up to Henry and didn't let

766
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Speaker 17: him get going early, which, if nothing else, was a

767
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Speaker 17: psychological plus for that defense.

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Speaker 3: And you got till Monday night to get right now.

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Speaker 1: They certainly had a lot of injuries yesterday and the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins coming in for Monday night football at Akroshire Stadium

771
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Speaker 1: next week. Was it four concussions yesterday for the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, keep in mind went.

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Speaker 12: Out Eccles got tested for one that came back.

775
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Speaker 17: Okay, yeah, and then the other one. Trying to think

776
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Speaker 17: what the other injury was. But somebody else got hurt

777
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 17: along the way too. Oh it was Benton, but he

778
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 17: came back with the ankle. Keep in mind with the Dolphins,

779
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 17: depending on what happens with a chan the running back

780
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 17: was third in the NFL and rushing. He left that

781
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 17: game with a rib injury, but then his backup came

782
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 17: in and had one hundred and two yards or something

783
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Speaker 17: like that. Yesterday they can run the ball. They had

784
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 17: two hundred and thirty nine yards rushing, so it's gonna

785
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Speaker 17: be another rushing challenge for the Steelers defense.

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Speaker 1: This morning on the DV Morning Show, Jean Stero Tour

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Speaker 1: will join us today instead of tomorrow since there is

799
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Speaker 1: plenty to talk about in the officiating category, and Aby

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Speaker 1: you will have your news when we come back.

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Speaker 5: I got another Gene in the news, and that's Gene Simmons,

802
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Speaker 5: who doesn't know how to not speak.

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Speaker 6: Ill of the dead.

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Speaker 1: Rob came with a power hour Steeler Talk on the

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Speaker 1: way for you Steelers twenty seven. Ravens twenty two.

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Speaker 3: Wanted to the right Rogers.

807
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 14: The doctor gets a snap back.

808
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: The pass throws to one of the right flat wide open,

809
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: scooting down the right sideline pathrow.

810
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 3: There is nobody there and he's in for the score.

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00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 18: Jail and Warren a short pass out to the flat

812
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 18: and he goes thirty eight yards in for the.

813
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 3: Touchdown, ending well near the end of the third quarter.

814
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Speaker 1: There Jalen Warren scampers for six the Steelers with the

815
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Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty two victory over the Ravens. Mister

816
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Speaker 1: Wednesday on a Monday, Jeff Conkole joining us now too. Yes,

817
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 1: the referees might have had a hand in the Steelers

818
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: win yesterday, And yes, I am one hundred percent okay

819
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 1: with it. I don't care everybody that I saw yesterday

820
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: online trying to turn this into this doesn't fix anything.

821
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 1: We still got to get rid of Tomlin. Just enjoy

822
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 1: something for once.

823
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 3: Enjoy it. Just have a good Sunday.

824
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: There's good four o'clock games that you get to watch

825
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: and feel good because your team just won against their

826
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: division rival.

827
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Speaker 3: And there in first place in the AFC Nord.

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00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 19: I always tell my kids, like if you're getting a

829
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 19: good deal, like if your teacher's letting you slide on

830
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 19: some homework, or Grandma gave you a twenty or something

831
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 19: like that.

832
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 3: Shut up about it and move on.

833
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 19: Don't bitch about it, and don't certainly don't brag about it.

834
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Speaker 19: So I'm kind of in the middle of the camp, like,

835
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Speaker 19: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: What to feel after that game.

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Speaker 19: I don't want to brag about it because we got

838
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 19: some like three critical plays, But I don't want to

839
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 19: bitch about it either, because we've been on the receiving

840
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 19: end of a couple of heartbreakers.

841
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 3: So maybe it's just karma coming back to us.

842
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: That's exactly what it is, like it always comes around, right,

843
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: There was a couple of ball don't lie moments in

844
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: that game yesterday. You know, I think that the Steelers

845
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: the most egregious call is most likely the call against

846
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: Kunits where they called what was a personal foul, foul

847
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: unnecessarily right, that was total bs and that was a

848
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: four point twing right there. The touchdown that they took

849
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: away from Isaiah likely which every he agrees the eye

850
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: test tells you that's a touchdown. The fact is, the

851
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: way they wrote the rule, it's not a touchdown.

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00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 3: It's a terrible rule, terrible rule.

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Speaker 1: So the more egregious one was actually the unnecessary roughness on.

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Speaker 3: Copy fact because that led to points. I mean, yeah,

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00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 3: it keeps saying Cone, It's gonna happen.

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Speaker 19: I know, No, I mean, uh, listen, like we've gotten

857
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 19: Like I said, we've been screwed royally before, and I

858
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 19: feel like I've never been part of a game where

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00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 19: I have felt like we have, Like I couldn't point

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00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 19: out a call that the refs made that I felt

861
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Speaker 19: was egregious against us necessarily like I thought it was.

862
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 19: Here's why I was a Ravens fan. I'd be like,

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00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 19: who bribed them? You know, I'd be going through that

864
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 19: whole exercise right now.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand how Zay Flowers we challenge that catch

866
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Speaker 1: in balls movings.

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Speaker 3: He hits the ground and they're like, Nope, that's good.

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Speaker 1: But then the Calvin Austin, Yeah, the ball's moving and

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00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: they're like, no, that one's bad. It's it's like grease

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Speaker 1: of moving apparently matters, Like, well, that one only moved

871
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: a little bit. It's still moved out of his hands

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00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: up his shoulder pads on the ze Flower play shouldn't

873
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: have been a catch.

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Speaker 19: You remember, like the definition of pornography for a lot

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00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,959
Speaker 19: of years was earlier. You did use it earlier, Okay,

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00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 19: because that's what it is. It's it's I know it

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00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 19: when I see it. Yeah, that's that's the idea. And

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00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 19: there should be a little bit more of that in

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Speaker 19: the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And I think Gene Territory will agree on that he's

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Speaker 1: going to join us today a forty five instead of tomorrow,

882
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: since there's so much to go over. And he clarified

883
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: that Isaiah likely ruling that he didn't satisfy the third component,

884
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: which is the football move part, which a third foot

885
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: down or a third step down would have uh you know, uh,

886
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: it would have qualified it as a touchdown because he

887
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: didn't get it down. It's not a touchdown in what

888
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: world He's got the ball in the end zone with

889
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: two feet down to me play over. But it's the Megatron,

890
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: it's the Jesse James. We've seen it time and time again.

891
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense to me.

892
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 19: As you know, I like to make mountains out of

893
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 19: molehills pretty much out of everything in my entire life.

894
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 19: And I started thinking, I was like, you know how

895
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 19: everyone complains that we're too litigious of a society and

896
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 19: lawyers need to get involved and everything needs a regulation

897
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 19: and a committee, and I was like, football is an exact.

898
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 3: Microcosm of that. Clearly, we like this.

899
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 19: Clearly, we like that there's a judge and that there's

900
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 19: rules laid out for everything, like like, we can't get

901
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 19: enough of it. We can't get enough of the minutia

902
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 19: of that. It actually adds some element of drama to

903
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 19: it in a weird way.

904
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 3: Big Special Team's Day yesterday.

905
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: Also that the last punt, Corlos Weightman gets off a bomb.

906
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 3: Thank god, dude. That guy had a bounce back game.

907
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 3: He needed it big time.

908
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: The fact that DK Metcalf goes out as a gunner

909
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: because he sees Scronic is hurt and he goes, don't

910
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: worry about it. I got it, And thence Gronick's like,

911
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: I'm not not gonna play and then he bounced. I

912
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: don't remember who he bounced was at Echols, I don't

913
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: So they both end up gunning on that one. DK

914
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: draws two guys. They draw a holding penalty there. It

915
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,919
Speaker 1: nullifies the return, which I think they had the ball

916
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: up near the forties.

917
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 3: Like an eighteen yard swing or something like that.

918
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: Ten yard penalty from the point of them receiving the punt,

919
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: and then the Ravens take I think an illegal formation

920
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: right there. Ball game, ball game, because now they got

921
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 1: to go to the length of the field now first

922
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: and twenty. At the end of the game, when defenses

923
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: clearly running out of gas, they got two minutes and

924
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 1: eleven seconds left on the clock.

925
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 3: Were you like me?

926
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 19: And I basically almost turned the TV off. I was like,

927
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 19: I don't want to even see this loss. We're gonna

928
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 19: lose this game. There's absolutely no way. I was this close,

929
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 19: and I screamede of little faith.

930
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: Now there was no security, there, no screaming in my

931
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: living room, screaming like yeah, that loud. And then I

932
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: went to a local watering hole afterwards, me couple of

933
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: friends and they all said the same thing.

934
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 3: They're like, God, I was going to have a heart attack.

935
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 3: Was so stressful. There's such a Mike Tomlin game.

936
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 19: I'm such a bad fan too, because every I'm sitting

937
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 19: there with my kids and I'm just poisoning them against

938
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 19: every player that I don't think is so And what

939
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 19: happened is every time I would say something mildly derogatory

940
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 19: about a player, they would come up big. I'd be like, yeah, TJ,

941
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 19: there's that multi million dollar. Oh he just stuffed a

942
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 19: run for six years, All right, He's fine. I was

943
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 19: getting on high Smith and then I was like, where's

944
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 19: high Smith been the whole game?

945
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 17: Oh?

946
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 3: Okay, he just sacked Lamar for the game.

947
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 1: Ending said, okay, okay, he made a couple of plays yesterday, TJ.

948
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 3: Watt made a couple of plays.

949
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 17: It.

950
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: It's one of those circumstances where they got in Lamar's

951
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: face and broke up the rhythm of the offense, but

952
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: they weren't getting them down. He was only nineteen to

953
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: thirty five yesterday. They dropped some balls, no question about it.

954
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 1: And boy, when you look at the angle behind Lamar

955
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: on the fourth down that Mark Andrews tips with his

956
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 1: hand as Patrick Queen is in coverage at the time,

957
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: you think, oh, he just overthrew Andrews a little bit.

958
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 1: And then you look at it from the other angle

959
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: and you see DeAndre Hopkins sitting in the back of

960
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: the end zone.

961
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 3: All by himself, going throw it to me, throw it

962
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 3: to me, which.

963
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 1: Lamar was obviously doing, but he didn't put enough loft

964
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: under it, so Andrews thought it was for him.

965
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 3: So he makes that diving attempt.

966
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: And breaks up basically the play the touchdown catch to

967
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins and then the ball falls to the ground

968
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 1: Steelers ball, and then they do the most feeble three

969
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: and out there.

970
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that was a That was that drove

971
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 3: me nuts. Throw the ball there.

972
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: As we just talked about with Benzie, be a little

973
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: more aggressive. That's classic Mike Tollin, though he always goes

974
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: we don't live in our fears, and he is the

975
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: most fear living dude in the NFL.

976
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 19: I thought the same thing, like when we turn the

977
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 19: ball over and got it, what would we get it

978
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 19: on like the seven yard line? I was like, this

979
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 19: is gonna be bad because I was like, I'd rather

980
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 19: them just score and then we take the ball and

981
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 19: maybe we can get us the same drive or something

982
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 19: like that.

983
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 3: Which is what.

984
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, when the likely touchdown got overturned, I was like,

985
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: I think that just screwed the Steelers. Yeah, because they're

986
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: gonna score a touchdown now and we're gonna they're gonna

987
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: take another minute off the clock. Thankfully, it worked out

988
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: in the Steelers favor and just enjoy at Steelers fans

989
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: don't look for reasons why relax.

990
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 3: It stinks and the Steelers still stay.

991
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: Hey, just this is what we're here for to enjoy

992
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: Steelers football.

993
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 3: Folks. We're seven and six. That sounds bad, but it's

994
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 3: the it's a division lead.

995
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 19: I love as soon as you examine this further because

996
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 19: you want to be positive, and you're like, look, we're

997
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 19: on top of the division, right, let's celebrate, And then

998
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 19: you look one sentence past that you're like, if the

999
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 19: playoffs started today, we'd be playing Buffalo.

1000
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 3: Oh God, please please spare us from this.

1001
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 1: We'll have Jean Stair Tour today, as we said, eight

1002
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: forty five instead of tomorrow. Lots to talk about with Gene.

1003
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 1: Rob came with Aur Hours Dealer Talk. Jeff Conkle hanging

1004
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: with us as well. Abby's got your news right now.

1005
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 3: What's up? Is This hour brought to.

1006
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 5: You by Keystone Basement Systems Web Basement Keystone Basementsystems dot com.

1007
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 6: It's cloudy, very cold today, with a high of just thirty.

1008
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 5: A series of quote bad decisions by Kiss guitarists Ace

1009
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 5: Freelely contributed to his death. Band mate in front man

1010
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 5: Jean Simmons told the Post this past weekend Simmons condemned

1011
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 5: the substance abuse he suggested contributed to Failey Brayley's fatal

1012
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 5: all down the stairs in his New Jersey home studio,

1013
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 5: leading to a brain bleed that killed him days later

1014
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 5: on October the sixteenth, at age seventy four. Quote, he

1015
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 5: refused advice from people that cared about him, including yours, truly,

1016
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 5: to try to change his lifestyle in and out of

1017
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 5: bad decisions, falling down the stairs.

1018
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 6: I'm not a doctor, but a fall doesn't kill you.

1019
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 3: There does, yes, it does.

1020
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 5: There may have been other issues, and it breaks my heart,

1021
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 5: said Simmons.

1022
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 3: He just can't help it. He really, he cannot help himself.

1023
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: And the fact that he's speaking ill of the dead

1024
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 1: right after the guy died, it just lets you every

1025
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: let you know everything you need to know about Gene Simmons.

1026
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 3: It's always about him. I tried to save him, but

1027
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 3: he's an idiot. Like he's dead, let him, let him

1028
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 3: just rest in peace. If there's one.

1029
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: Person who after death is going to haunt Gene Simmons,

1030
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: it's probably Ace Freely.

1031
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 19: So why would you want to stir up the ghules

1032
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 19: and the the living the living spirits?

1033
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: He also has the most ghoulish, like like ghost laugh

1034
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: of anybody ever. That if Ace Freely is haunting you,

1035
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: you're gonna get.

1036
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 6: The rest of your life.

1037
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 5: Snyder interview alone should probably be haunting Jean at every

1038
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 5: moment of his day. But that's the thing, is the

1039
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 5: only thing that Jean said correct in that was that

1040
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 5: he's not a doctor.

1041
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 20: Oh my god, I'm telling coming up the stairs in

1042
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 20: your rafters.

1043
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 3: I mean, Geane is just such a douchebag.

1044
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 5: I can't believe that he would say that. Here's the

1045
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 5: biggest thing. I mean, I think that anybody who might

1046
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 5: have been paying attention to Astley in the last few

1047
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 5: years might have thought he got back on the sauce.

1048
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 6: That might have been an unspoken thing.

1049
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 5: But Ace Frehley has maintained that he's been sober for

1050
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 5: a really long time. And also there was always this

1051
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 5: joke that Ace Frehley who had an album, Oh.

1052
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 17: God, what was it called.

1053
00:50:50,800 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 8: Trouble walking? Trouble walking like like walking hilarious.

1054
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 5: But he's always been like a really lanky guy and

1055
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 5: then you put him in like seven inch platforms and

1056
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 5: it was kind of funny.

1057
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 3: I like, how Gene thinks you don't die from a fall.

1058
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, and especially when you're seventy six, you certainly do.

1059
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: No one's ever done that ever, not to metch you.

1060
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: He's probably wearing clunky boots around the studio.

1061
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, baby.

1062
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 15: Uh.

1063
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 6: Simmons was in DC.

1064
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: By the way. He thinks that on the official death certificate,

1065
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: it's a cause of death.

1066
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 3: Bad decisions.

1067
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's how it works, bad decisions.

1068
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 5: Simmons was in DC to collect a Kennedy Center honor

1069
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 5: with surviving band members and to testify in the Senate

1070
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 5: to promote a legislation to require large radio stations to

1071
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 5: pay royalties to performers. He did say nice things about

1072
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 5: Ace Frehley there, thankfully.

1073
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 3: Okay.

1074
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 6: When counted those Kennedy.

1075
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 5: Honors, By the way, it was not only the surviving

1076
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 5: members of Kiss, but it was also George Strait, Gloria

1077
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 5: Sylvester Stallone, and actor and singer Michael Crawford.

1078
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 3: Uh huh. Gene is so funny to me though. He

1079
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 3: reminds me of Pete Townsend in a way, because Pee Townsend.

1080
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: For the last year, every interview that he's given about

1081
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: the Who's Last Tour.

1082
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 21: Is he's like, I'm doing this for Roger and he's

1083
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:23,439
Speaker 21: a prickly soul and he's kind of pain and he's

1084
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 21: very particular, but I love him and I want to

1085
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 21: do it for Roger. I'm glad he's enjoying him like

1086
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 21: he's doing.

1087
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: He keeps saying that he's doing because how much he

1088
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 1: loves Roger.

1089
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 3: But the subtext of every single interview that he's giving

1090
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 3: is I can't stand him.

1091
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 19: I think that happens with any band that makes it

1092
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 19: to that like stadium level, like Legacy Tour, is that

1093
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 19: you have to play this game of politics within like

1094
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 19: a four piece. Like I just watched an interview with

1095
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 19: Flee from Red Hot Chili Peppers and he's talking of

1096
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 19: someone was asking about the songwriting process us, and it

1097
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 19: was like he was like under you know, a prison

1098
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 19: watch or something like that. He's like, Anthony Keatis is

1099
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Speaker 19: a great vocalist and he contributes a lot, and John

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Speaker 19: Fouchante is also very good and contributes a lot of

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Speaker 19: guitar parts, and how could we ever.

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Speaker 3: Do in a deposition or something.

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Speaker 19: Clearly he feels some certain way, but he knows like

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Speaker 19: I don't want to start stuff. We got a good

1105
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 19: thing going, so I'm just gonna play nice and give

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00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 19: everybody credit the whole way through, like.

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Speaker 3: McK and keith, Yeah, mckin keith.

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Speaker 1: I mean even the all three Beatles besides Paul McCartney

1109
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: against Paul McCartney.

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Speaker 3: You know, they always bitched about Paul McCartney front. Yeah,

1111
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 3: and then Paul would be like, big deal, that made

1112
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 3: him work a little bit?

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00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 21: Who cares get over into Beatles?

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00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Maxwell, Silverhammers one. They all hated it and they're like,

1115
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: they're like, this song is rabbation and he's making us

1116
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: come to the studio for the you know, all three

1117
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: of them hated it and it took like three days

1118
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: to do and they were just like bitching and they're like.

1119
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 3: This is corny. Is a total Paul song that just stucks,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: I like one, and and then they interview Paul Aboudy goes,

1122
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Speaker 1: I made him do a liks I was in the studio,

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Speaker 1: Big deal Oka.

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00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 6: Maxwell's that's him, how stupid. Let's write one about an octopus?

1125
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Speaker 1: But him and John had that, like, you know, any

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00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: creative collaboration is going to have those dynamics. It's very

1127
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: rarely like oh we get along awesome and we have

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00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: you know, the spark that drives us as our commonality

1129
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: and not our differences.

1130
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 3: That doesn't happen.

1131
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: It's usually the things that separate you are what makes

1132
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:32,959
Speaker 1: the collaboration great.

1133
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Speaker 19: But then I think it gets tenuous towards the end

1134
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 19: because you clearly have this money making machine and everyone,

1135
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 19: despite their feelings, their real feelings, doesn't really want to

1136
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 19: upset the apple carts, so they're very tiptoe doking on eggshells.

1137
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 3: If you're smart, Metalica, you're gonna write.

1138
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: Metallica got a you know, therapist to come in and

1139
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: navigate things, which the dumbest thing they did was film

1140
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: it and let everybody watch, Like I'm not eve even

1141
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: sure what level of narcissism that is, or like just

1142
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: fix it.

1143
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 3: And usually once you've.

1144
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: Done that, the spark that made you guys great in

1145
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: the conflict is gone and you might as well hang

1146
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: it up.

1147
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 3: But like when you're talking like it's then a business.

1148
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 1: You have your creative endeavor has resulted in an entity

1149
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 1: and a business, and now you just have to maintain

1150
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: the business.

1151
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 3: And it's not the same thing that you started. Now

1152
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 3: it's something different.

1153
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: It's this moving thing that is wrapped up in millions

1154
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: of dollars and hundreds of jobs depending on it, and

1155
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: then you just operate differently.

1156
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I watched that. There's an HBO show called Couple's Therapy. Oh,

1157
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 3: I love that show that. I love that therapist. I

1158
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 3: think she's awesome. I do.

1159
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 19: But in my opinion, if you are going to sign

1160
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,240
Speaker 19: a waiver that says yes, you can put our stuff

1161
00:55:55,239 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 19: out there on HBO and the relationship now agreed, or you.

1162
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 6: Go deeper on that, yeah, yeah, can you describe more?

1163
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: But how about the way people on that show, Like

1164
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: ninety percent of the times it's the guys.

1165
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:10,720
Speaker 3: Honest to god, it really every.

1166
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,720
Speaker 1: Time I've watched it, don't say it's like the guys

1167
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: are so up their own ours and she will be

1168
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: pointing out the most obvious things to.

1169
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 3: Them, and they'll be like, I don't understand what the

1170
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 3: problem is.

1171
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 1: Well, what she's saying is that you can't take I

1172
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: can take criticism, but she's saying you interrupt.

1173
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 3: I don't interrupt.

1174
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 22: If anything has taught me that show, like like if

1175
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 22: you did a study on the statistics of that show,

1176
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 22: I think the word polyamorous and relationship falling apart seem to.

1177
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: Go hand with each other when anyone someone's just like,

1178
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: I'm a little boored.

1179
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 3: I wanted to step outside.

1180
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 19: I don't understand why there's trust issues all of a

1181
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 19: sudden just because I'm banging somebody. Like, don't that sounds

1182
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 19: like a recipe for disaster. Just break up the polyamory.

1183
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 19: I don't know that's how you say it, all right.

1184
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: The thing that it always seems to be the dynamic

1185
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: is one person is way more into it then the

1186
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: other one is.

1187
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 3: Always begrudgingly dragged into it.

1188
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 19: It seems like, but that's like the band thing, Like

1189
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 19: clearly they have a life, we got a mortgage together,

1190
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 19: so we don't like each other. We just got to

1191
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 19: kind of say that we do to keep this thing

1192
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 19: going and then we'll go.

1193
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 3: Do our little side projects.

1194
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: But so I guess if you are, if there's an

1195
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: element of bisexuality in it and there's only one common

1196
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: third person, that you've got a chance, right sure, Like.

1197
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 3: I'm saying I made maybe this is so foreign to me,

1198
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 3: but like, like how does this what what is this

1199
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 3: third person?

1200
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: Like a gimp costume? You just bring them out whenever

1201
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: you guys are feeling bored.

1202
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 19: Like to me, it feels so abusive to the third

1203
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 19: person person is married. But you guys kind of you

1204
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 19: can kind of well tag team you into this this

1205
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 19: weird game of double dutch that we're playing.

1206
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like Mormonism, you know what I mean, it's like,

1207
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: well the fundamentalists and Mormons.

1208
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 3: But that one, I'm not saying it's smart. I'm saying

1209
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 3: you have a you have a snowball chance, right.

1210
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: The other one where it's just like go out and

1211
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: you know, seek and conquer.

1212
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 3: I don't know how you survive that.

1213
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 6: There's no way to follow those rules.

1214
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 19: Yeah, the amount of people that are cheating on people.

1215
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: I just keep thinking. I was like, even if I

1216
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: was inclined, which I'm not, I was like, the time

1217
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: required to cover your tracks, to orchestrate all that.

1218
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 3: Who has time to even pull that off? That's insane

1219
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 3: to me. I don't know that show Couple Therapy I

1220
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 3: absolutely love though.

1221
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 19: See I say that, I would, you know, it's grotesque

1222
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 19: to me? But where am I? I'm watching the whole

1223
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 19: I'm watching it the whole time.

1224
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: Well, there's a voyeuristic element to it, you know. It's

1225
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: kind of like taxi cab confessions to me, which I

1226
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: find just as interesting to watch as couple therapy because

1227
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,439
Speaker 1: those people are really unguarded because they don't know they're

1228
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: being filmed until afterwards, and then they agree to do

1229
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: it and they're like, hey, that whole conversation we just had,

1230
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: will you sign a waiver and let us put it

1231
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: on HBO And then they decide, you know what, yeah,

1232
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get paid X amount. Sometimes sometimes I know, yeah,

1233
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure that they HBO lawyers up the right way,

1234
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,919
Speaker 1: and when people are super banged up, they don't allow

1235
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: them to do it. But like they'll pick people up

1236
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: like strippers from strip joint, and they'll talk about their

1237
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: lives and stuff and their boyfriends and sometimes it's tragic

1238
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: and sometimes it's hilarious, but it's really people being honest,

1239
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: whereas in couple's therapy they're pretty guarded.

1240
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 19: But sometimes like you know, we're sitting here to acting

1241
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 19: like you know, everyone you know should you should have

1242
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 19: you should respect your own privacy and anyone. How many

1243
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 19: times have you been in a conversation at a party

1244
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 19: where you're like, Hi, my name's Jeff. Oh hey, my

1245
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 19: name's Bill, or my name's Andy, or my name is

1246
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 19: Tom or whatever, and then three minutes later they're like,

1247
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 19: I never really liked my dad, Like they can't wait

1248
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 19: to get it out of the like, okay, I was

1249
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 19: just talking about the weather here, like, you know, not

1250
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Speaker 19: your deepest nightmares.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk to Gen's territory about the Ravens

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Speaker 1: fans and nightmares that the referees gave them yesterday by

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Speaker 1: power hour of Steeler talks. The Steelers beat the Ravens

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Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty two yesterday Aaron Rodgers in company.

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Speaker 1: I will say it was awesome to see them just

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Speaker 1: start off with a bang back to pass. Look, you're

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Speaker 1: All this talk about no erayard completions by Rogers in

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Speaker 1: the last month, they come right out with a bomb

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Speaker 1: down the right sideline. Oh, that was glorious. Three quarters

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Speaker 1: of great football from the Steelers offense. And then there

1266
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Speaker 1: was the fourth quarter that made me scream for about

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Speaker 1: thirty minutes Aaron Rodgers listened to the Therapist.

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Speaker 3: You got no choice. They can't leave it.

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Speaker 12: Steelers twenty seven to twenty two victory over the Ravens.

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Speaker 12: But headline number two is the re emergence of Aaron

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Speaker 12: Rodgers as the man in command. Mike Tomlin not only

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Speaker 12: saw it, he anticipated what he got from Rogers when

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Speaker 12: the Steelers needed it most.

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Speaker 14: You know, we knew what was on the line today.

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Speaker 14: And that's why you go do business with a guy

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Speaker 14: like Aaron for thick days like the day.

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Speaker 3: He's been there, done that guy.

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Speaker 14: But beyond the experienced component of it, he relishes it.

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Speaker 14: You can just tell. And that's the benefit of having

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Speaker 14: a guy like ar.

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Speaker 12: And that has been the story for the Steelers since

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Speaker 12: they began talking with Aaron Rodgers. And it was debated

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Speaker 12: for three months. Yeah, diver take, are they doing the

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Speaker 12: Why do they want this guy? He's too old, he's

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Speaker 12: washed blah, blah blah. What you saw yesterday when they

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Speaker 12: had the pedal down, which they did for about three quarters,

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Speaker 12: was the guy who can potentially be the difference maker,

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01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 12: the guy that can stop this eight year slog of

1314
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 12: getting into the playoffs but not getting in. If Mike

1315
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 12: Tomlins you get there, and that's why it can be different.

1316
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 12: I'm not saying it's gonna be, but there's a chance.

1317
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 12: And I've been fielding calls all season, fielded another one

1318
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 12: last night.

1319
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: Oh they're just gonna get blown out in the first round.

1320
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 3: Well, if that's the way you feel, why are you

1321
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 3: even watching?

1322
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 16: Right?

1323
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 3: Please be joyless on your own.

1324
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 1: Try to suck everybody. It's sports. It's supposed to be

1325
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: fun for UF's sake. I mean, that's what I've been

1326
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: trying to say all morning. If you didn't enjoy them

1327
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: beating the Ravens yesterday, then nothing's really gonna make you happy.

1328
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 3: Show the super Bowl.

1329
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,439
Speaker 1: It's like the guy who called in the postgame show

1330
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl after we went in Tampa and said, yeah,

1331
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: next year, they're really gonna have to clean up that

1332
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: secondary And it's like, enjoy the Super Bowl.

1333
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 3: Some people are happy, miserable, So we're far.

1334
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: Away from Matt but but the way before you get

1335
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: to that, that was also quintessential Steelers Ravens, no matter

1336
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: how it ended. Yes, and we talk every year, but

1337
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: I can't wait for these two games, and maybe they'll

1338
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: be a third.

1339
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 3: And it's special and it's different, and it is and

1340
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 3: do you not love that?

1341
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: Lamar eats it every time he plays the Steelers, and

1342
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: that well most of the time, most of the time.

1343
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 1: You know, he was nineteen thirty five yesterday, and where

1344
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: he failed is where I thought Rogers was better than him,

1345
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: which was he started hearing those footsteps because they were

1346
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 1: getting to him, and he was making some quick throws

1347
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: and missing guys and throwing up their feet. Rogers only

1348
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,919
Speaker 1: did that once, maybe twice yesterday, in the prior three

1349
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 1: weeks since the Chargers game. Yes, he really started hearing

1350
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 1: the footsteps and he was seeing ghosts and all of that,

1351
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 1: you know, the Sam Darnold line, and it seemed to

1352
01:04:56,040 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: change yesterday. He seemed determined to stay poised the pocket

1353
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: as long as he could and not be afraid to

1354
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: move his feet and get out of trouble.

1355
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 12: I thought what you saw was quintessential pocket mobility. Yes,

1356
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 12: sensing where the pressure was coming from, sensing how to

1357
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 12: avoid it.

1358
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 3: He trusted himself, keeping his.

1359
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 12: Head down, his eyes downfield, and being able to make

1360
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 12: a different play than the one that was called.

1361
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: And then with Andres Pete and then him going out

1362
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: and having their third tackle in Dylan Cook. Look, he'd

1363
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: have been forgiven if he was really panicking, and I

1364
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 1: didn't think he was panicky yesterday. I think Mike Tomlin

1365
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter did what Mike Tomlin does, which is,

1366
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: we'll get to set it up for our defense to

1367
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 1: win and their defense isn't good enough for that right now? Well,

1368
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: it's done that several times. I was about to fifth

1369
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 1: save yesterday, okay, and the guys with the stripes helped

1370
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 1: out quite a bit.

1371
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:48,919
Speaker 12: I would have played it, well, I'm just talking about

1372
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 12: the defense at the oh, you're talking about the likely

1373
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 12: playing on that fair fair point, I'd have played it

1374
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 12: differently on the last possession where they just went run,

1375
01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 12: run pass.

1376
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 3: How much time are you are you saving them?

1377
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: Who cares like Josh Allen would not have hand Well

1378
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 1: maybe he would have, but you see my point there,

1379
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: they are begging you to throw the ball. Have a

1380
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: little confidence you just brought in MVS and Adam Feeling

1381
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 1: line those.

1382
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 3: Guys up outside.

1383
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: How about that, by the way, Well, you know some

1384
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 1: people were speculating that's why you saw DK have such

1385
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 1: a big game yesterday because they couldn't not pay attention

1386
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 1: to those two.

1387
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 19: I thought the hilarious thing was MVS got one target

1388
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 19: that I could see, and it was for like a

1389
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 19: three yard slant route. I was like, this guy is

1390
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 19: six foot nine. I was like, and you give my

1391
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 19: three yard slant route. I was like, post my God,

1392
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 19: send it far. Roman Wilson healthy scratch.

1393
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm I don't care honestly, Like I know, he

1394
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: was getting open here or there. The experiment with you know,

1395
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 1: five nine receivers and stuff.

1396
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 12: The bottom line is they finally figured out you can't

1397
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 12: have more than one short guy. Yes, you just can't.

1398
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 12: And Calvin os then is still pretty good player.

1399
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: He's got the speed any you need him for punt returns,

1400
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: so he's got to get the nod over rumming Wilson.

1401
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 3: There.

1402
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 12: Vs is six y four and Adam Thieland is six

1403
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 12: to two. And Adam Thieland is still a pro, and

1404
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 12: he still blocks him. He's supposed to block, and he

1405
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 12: runs his route the way you're supposed to run your route,

1406
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 12: and those guys are just getting started.

1407
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: By the way, kudos to Friarmouth for after the Darnow

1408
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 1: Washington injury, a nice block on that touchdown for.

1409
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 3: Game und block.

1410
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 12: Yeah, they still haven't figured out that he's a really

1411
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 12: good player they can throw him the football, but they

1412
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 12: did remember that DK Metcalf's a pretty good player, and

1413
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 12: they threw him the football, and they threw it to

1414
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 12: him early.

1415
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 13: No, we did it against Cincinnati as well in the

1416
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 13: first third down. I wasn't first play of the game,

1417
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 13: but I just like arts kind of focus. He wanted

1418
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 13: to be aggressive throwing the ball, you know, and I

1419
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 13: knew it was going to be a lot of different guys,

1420
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 13: but once d K got going, I just kind of

1421
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 13: had to keep feeding him and he had a couple

1422
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 13: huge plays in the line. You know, in the second half,

1423
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 13: we've kind of sucked the first possession of the second

1424
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 13: half coming out, and you know, to start off with

1425
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 13: a extended past play and then DK to keep working

1426
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 13: and keep working and keep working and have big play,

1427
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 13: get us down there and get a field goal and

1428
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:17,799
Speaker 13: then go down score a Testown.

1429
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 3: It was there's two good drives for us to start

1430
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 3: the half.

1431
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 12: You know what, he referenced Sarah getting the ball with

1432
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 12: the lead to start a second half.

1433
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 3: We kind of suck. No, they've sucked.

1434
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 12: They they win the previous scenarios three punts, an interception,

1435
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 12: and a fumble return for a touchdown.

1436
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, they sucks. Did they win the toss at

1437
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 3: the beginning at the third? Okay? So if you choose that,

1438
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 3: especially you're counting on, yeah, you have to go out

1439
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 3: and execute there.

1440
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 12: I mean, it's you know, it's still cloudy, but it's

1441
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 12: a little sunnier today than it was in terms of

1442
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 12: how they're proceeding and what they might yet be capable of. Mike,

1443
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 12: you know, can we just say that it's not over yet?

1444
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 12: They're not dead.

1445
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,600
Speaker 3: They beat the Ravens in Baltimore. What is there to

1446
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 3: be upset about. I don't get it.

1447
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 1: There's still some season left and there they're a competitor.

1448
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, But are they actually dead?

1449
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 19: Because that as a Steelers Ravens game usually looks, it

1450
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 19: looked like Antietam at the end of the day. Now

1451
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 19: there's people biting belts, getting the bone saws out.

1452
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 3: I mean it was rough. We lost so many people.

1453
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 3: There was a lot of concussions. It's got a halfway right, Yeah,

1454
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 3: it's close to Antietam. Isn't it just a football field

1455
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 3: on the I guess I don't know.

1456
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: They should build a stadium in Breezewood just for those games,

1457
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 1: is what they should do.

1458
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 3: Quick break and we'll come back. Top players of the game.

1459
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 1: Also Gene Sterotor doing today instead of tomorrow because oh,

1460
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 1: there's lots to talk about when it comes officiating.

1461
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 3: Abbey at the top of the hour.

1462
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 6: Never give up on your dreams.

1463
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 5: Billy McFarlane of Firefest fame finally put on his stupid

1464
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 5: post prison music festival, and boy did it suck.

1465
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 1: This week's WDV bud like game day bar of the

1466
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: Week scar Pace's Mount Washington this NFL season, stopping scarp

1467
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 1: Pace's and enjoy three dollars bud like bottles during Steelers games,

1468
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: but like easy to drink, easy to enjoy, make yourself.

1469
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:05,679
Speaker 3: At home the red carpent treatment.

1470
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 15: Huh.

1471
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 11: Michelle Michaels is your host for the all Request the

1472
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 11: Electric Lunch at Noon.

1473
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 3: Hey, Michelle, I got a Google for the lunch.

1474
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 11: Great ideas on one O two point five dvs.

1475
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: This season, the top five plays of the game. In

1476
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: the Steelers twenty seven to twenty two victory over the

1477
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 1: Ravens at Mt. Banks Stadium yesterday, there was a lot

1478
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:29,799
Speaker 1: of Steeler fans there, more than I would have thought

1479
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 1: would have showed up, because that's that's tough territory to

1480
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:35,679
Speaker 1: it venture into.

1481
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 3: My wife will never go back there. She went one

1482
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 3: time once sold. It took at number five.

1483
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,759
Speaker 1: Third quarter of the game, with three minutes and thirty

1484
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 1: seconds left, it was twenty to sixteen Ravens. When Aaron

1485
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:55,879
Speaker 1: Rodgers had his pick of who to throw a touchdown

1486
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: pass to Pat Fryarmouth your Jalen Warren. He quickly dumped

1487
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 1: it down to Jail new Scamper's thirty eight yards the right.

1488
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 1: Rodgers in the shotgun gets a snap back to pass

1489
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 1: rose to one in the right flat, wide open, scooting

1490
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 1: down the right sideline pass room.

1491
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,520
Speaker 3: There is nobody there and he's in for the score.

1492
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,959
Speaker 18: Jail and Warren a short pass out to the flat

1493
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 18: and he goes thirty eight yards in for the touchdown.

1494
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: Kind of wish you would hit Friremuth on that, just

1495
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 1: to get moose going. You know, do you think he

1496
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 1: makes it to the end zee, Well, that's a good point.

1497
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: He was pretty wide open. There was nobody here.

1498
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 12: Pretty I think Rogers saw that at the line of scrimmage.

1499
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 12: I'd love to know what they had called there. I

1500
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 12: bet it wasn't that well it resulted in six.

1501
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 1: The Steelers then go up twenty seven sixteen at that point.

1502
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 1: At number four, this was in the first quarter of

1503
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 1: the game. Aaron Rodgers behind center, intending to go to

1504
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 1: John hu Smith, but he falls down. So what does

1505
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: a forty two year old quarterback do?

1506
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 3: Scamper?

1507
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:59,600
Speaker 1: It's a snap turns play action pass, rolling out to

1508
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 1: the left, looking to get to the quarner of the end.

1509
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 2: To he does Aaron Rodgers, hitting for the Pittsburgh Steelers

1510
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 2: touchdown on the naked boot.

1511
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 14: To the left.

1512
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 3: Did the discount double check? Mm hmm.

1513
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 19: That play is gonna be brought to you by Ben

1514
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 19: Gay because Aaron Rodgers just popped every ligament coming coming

1515
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:18,679
Speaker 19: down the pike on that one.

1516
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,480
Speaker 3: I really did think that he looked pretty.

1517
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 1: Agile yesterday as compared to the last three weeks. It

1518
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 1: looks like he had before the Chargers game number three

1519
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 1: play of the game. To start off their first offensive

1520
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 1: play from scrimmage, they flout all the criticism that Data

1521
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 1: throw the deep ball, and he hits DK on a

1522
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 1: fifty two yarder pass, looking gonna throw one deep down

1523
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 1: the right sideline attended for.

1524
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 2: DK, that gap catches it, inshrine a huge game down

1525
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 2: inside the fifteen yard line of the Ravens.

1526
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 1: All this talk about no erayard completions by Rogers in

1527
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 1: the last month. They come right out with a bomb

1528
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 1: on the right sideline. They'd going to score that Aaron

1529
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 1: Rodgers touchdown after that, and Mike that did a lot

1530
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 1: to pave the way for what they would be able

1531
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: to do offensively after it.

1532
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 12: I heard somewhere before the game that you could get

1533
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 12: behind number forty four, Humphrey. Where'd you hear that that

1534
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 12: even if number twelve was in double coverage, he wasn't

1535
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 12: very good at it and you could exploit that.

1536
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 3: We're oh wait, I said that.

1537
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 1: The number two play end the less number two play

1538
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 1: of the game is the one that ended it. Alex

1539
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 1: high Smith bringing down Lamar Jackson as time expactor. Lamar

1540
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,679
Speaker 1: Jackson rush coming from the backside, He's.

1541
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 6: Hit take it down.

1542
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 2: It's high Smith with the sack back at the thirty

1543
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 2: eight yard line, and that will do it.

1544
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 1: The Steelers come to M and T Bank Stadium and

1545
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 1: win twenty seven to twenty two, and they are back

1546
01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: in first place by themselves in the AFC. The scream

1547
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 1: I let out, My neighbors must have thought my hand

1548
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 1: was on a stove.

1549
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 19: Just I definitely let out a couple ooh.

1550
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 1: I mean, good play by high Smiths. But how do

1551
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 1: you get sacked there?

1552
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 3: Oh? Look, the game's over.

1553
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 1: If you get you got two shots left with the

1554
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 1: amount of time. If it's not there right away, throw

1555
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 1: it away.

1556
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 12: Lift the fight one more down. You cannot get sacked

1557
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 12: there or you lose.

1558
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: And the number one play of the game, and we're

1559
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 1: gonna be talking to gens Terator about this one.

1560
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:32,799
Speaker 3: In about fifty minutes, play.

1561
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,759
Speaker 1: Action passed, looking throws toward the end zone. It's Isaiah

1562
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 1: likely and it's knocked out, but not until he's in

1563
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 1: the end zone with possession. It's a touchdown for the

1564
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 1: Ravens and they.

1565
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 3: Have taken the league. No, it's not.

1566
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:53,520
Speaker 1: He does not meet the three criteria of a touchdown catch.

1567
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 3: In the NFL. Never mind what you're lying eyes are

1568
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 3: telling you.

1569
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 12: You know, nobody almost scores touchdowns like Isaiah Likely.

1570
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: I said to God, I didn't think that Joey Porter

1571
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 1: Junior even got his hand up.

1572
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 3: I thought Isaiah Likely just like yeah.

1573
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 1: Opened his hands like haha, touchdown again. I'm like, why

1574
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 1: does this guy hate holding onto the ball in the

1575
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 1: end zone two weeks in a row for him? Well,

1576
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 1: remember back a couple of seasons ago, uh, Kansas City,

1577
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 1: he had like the big toe on the end line

1578
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: and the catch didn't count. They would have won that game.

1579
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 12: And then he was running in against Cincinnati and he

1580
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 12: fumbled before he got to the goal line. And I

1581
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 12: don't know that is not good at finishing touchdown plays.

1582
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: Twenty seven twenty two, the Steelers win there in first

1583
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 1: place in the AFC North, and the Dolphins come to

1584
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 1: town with a really good rushing attack on Monday night,

1585
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,879
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, a little bit of a roll Miami.

1586
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 1: That guy saved his job. They're not gonna gash.

1587
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1588
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 12: Remember six weeks ago they were awful and he was

1589
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 12: gonna get fired. And that was a layup like the

1590
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 12: NFL changes. I don't know if people are aware of

1591
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 12: this what happens on one Sunday does not absolutely one

1592
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 12: hundred percent dictate what's going to happen the next Sunday.

1593
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 1: The big news story yesterday morning was oh coach Tomlin?

1594
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,719
Speaker 3: Or was a Saturday night? Oh March.

1595
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 1: First, they have to designate whether they're gonna pick up

1596
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: his option for twenty twenty seven, And the Steelers could

1597
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 1: trade him before then, and maybe they'll get.

1598
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 3: Rid of him then not now, he ain't going anywhere.

1599
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 1: He get blew a kiss to the camera and walked

1600
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 1: off the field as if to say.

1601
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 3: Kiss my grits. Exactly. It could still end seven and ten.

1602
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:31,719
Speaker 3: It is true.

1603
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:35,799
Speaker 1: It could end eleven and six. It could end.

1604
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:40,719
Speaker 12: Whatever the derivations are. With four games left, I know nobody.

1605
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 12: I don't know what's gonna happen. Are they gonna beat Miami?

1606
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 12: Are they gonna beat Baltimore again?

1607
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 15: Oh?

1608
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 3: Are they gonna beat the Lions.

1609
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 1: There's not a Steeler fan who does not think they're

1610
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:49,839
Speaker 1: gonna lose to Miami.

1611
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:52,679
Speaker 3: Everybody thinks they're gonna go out and lose this game.

1612
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 12: I mean, Cleveland actually showed some life on offense yesterday, Shadoor.

1613
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:01,799
Speaker 12: Of course, the Browns beating the Browns their impenetrable defense.

1614
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,839
Speaker 12: The one game where they get credible offense, their defense

1615
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 12: takes it up.

1616
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 19: I think what you don't want is a Browns team

1617
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 19: that's only motivation is to hobble the Steelers going into

1618
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 19: the playoffs. And that's like, you don't think Miles Garrett

1619
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 19: wants to take take his pound of flesh and put

1620
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 19: Aaron Rodgers in that graveyard that he always talks about.

1621
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 1: I will say they were also helped out by the

1622
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,560
Speaker 1: Bills yesterday taking care of the Bengals.

1623
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 3: Crazy game too, kind of took them out of it.

1624
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 3: I think, what do you mean they got three wins?

1625
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 15: Right? Or no?

1626
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 3: They have nine losses? It's four. They're four and nine.

1627
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 1: I think I think the division could still be one

1628
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:35,879
Speaker 1: at eight and nine.

1629
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 3: Mediocrity. Hey, somebody gotta go.

1630
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:45,640
Speaker 1: Is it parody or is it the opposite? Is it

1631
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 1: just ever when everybody stinks that's parody? Right, Yeah, it's

1632
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:50,679
Speaker 1: a little of both, we all think equally.

1633
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Still, that was classic Steelers Ravens.

1634
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 12: I mean that was I don't know that either one

1635
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 12: of those teams is going anywhere, but that was one

1636
01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 12: of the great Steelers Ravens games, and a long Litany.

1637
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 3: Probably the most entertaining game this year. I would say.

1638
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 1: The thing I like about it is Lamar laising egg

1639
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 1: again against the Steelers. Mark Andrews has a hand on

1640
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 1: a game deciding play again. Well, my personal favorite development

1641
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,600
Speaker 1: is Harball Harball. And that was the third thing is

1642
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 1: that Harbaugh is pulling his hair out for.

1643
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:23,080
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Speaker 1: She's going to be a part of them, sharing stories,

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Speaker 1: What's the poot claps the hands, gets a snap back

1672
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 1: the pass.

1673
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 3: Looking Raven's bringing pressure and the.

1674
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 1: Balls knocked are rout at the line of scrimmage and.

1675
01:19:57,800 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 3: Rogers caught it.

1676
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:03,600
Speaker 1: No, the Ravens having it's Teddy b canned. He was

1677
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 1: battling with Rogers and they say, if you Canon came

1678
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: down with it for the students, he was bad at

1679
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and at the bottom of the

1680
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:15,600
Speaker 1: pile they're saying the Ravens have the ball.

1681
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 3: Is return over to bring this play and then the

1682
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 3: further review.

1683
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:23,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess the question there is going to

1684
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 1: be did Rogers have possession of it?

1685
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 3: When his knack out on the field, it's usually a

1686
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 3: good sign.

1687
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pittsburgh was down by contact with possession of the ball.

1688
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 1: One of three calls by the officials yesterday that drew

1689
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 1: the ire of Ravens fans. And I'm not so sure.

1690
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 1: I don't know that one. I don't love. I kind

1691
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 1: of feel like he fought for the ball at the

1692
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 1: same time as the Ravens defender and then his knees down.

1693
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if he totally has possession of it there.

1694
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,639
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to Jean Sterator in forty minutes. He'll

1695
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 1: clear up everything. We already know what the league's stances

1696
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 1: on the Isaiah Likely touchdown.

1697
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 3: There were so many calls.

1698
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 1: Yesterday outside of that that were like little ones that

1699
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:17,759
Speaker 1: I think had a little reverberating effect when we challenge.

1700
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 1: There is a Flowers catch that I still don't think

1701
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 1: was a catch. They challenged the Calvin Austin that they

1702
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 1: said wasn't a catch, But if the Flowers one was,

1703
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 1: I don't understand why the Calvin Austin third down catch

1704
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:30,759
Speaker 1: where he falls out of bounds and the ball moves

1705
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 1: a little bit.

1706
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 3: Why that's not a catch?

1707
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 19: The likely one is gonna be brutal, and as Pittsburgh's

1708
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 19: we have to feel a little sympathetic for Baltimore. Seven

1709
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 19: years ago, it was Jesse James getting told that a

1710
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 19: catch is not a catch unless it's caught in the

1711
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 19: process of making a catch while catching it. So like

1712
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 19: that's right, So we're in the same And my whole

1713
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:54,559
Speaker 19: thing is, have have we heard from Jesse James since?

1714
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 19: Like where Jesse James evaporated it? I feel like at

1715
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 19: this point he's just haunting Roger's office at NFL headquarters

1716
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 19: like he's the Phantom of the opera, Like every time

1717
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:07,719
Speaker 19: a catch gets overturned, a chandelier mysteriously.

1718
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 3: Falls from the ceiling.

1719
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 19: And I don't know, like, like I'm honestly like, did

1720
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 19: they I know stereotor was gonna get into this in

1721
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 19: a little bit, but like, to me, making a catch

1722
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,839
Speaker 19: in the NFL now is like a Facebook relationship status,

1723
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 19: Like it is complicated, Like it seems like it's getting

1724
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 19: more and more complicated. Like I didn't know that this

1725
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 19: whole football move was wasn't evil?

1726
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 1: I need the football move, But I don't know what

1727
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,600
Speaker 1: constitutes a football move, and I didn't know it was

1728
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 1: getting three steps in the end zone.

1729
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,680
Speaker 3: To me, the football move was when he caught it.

1730
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 1: That's a football move, Like he catches it and then

1731
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:49,759
Speaker 1: he's holding it like Frankenstein, Like, Okay, he's taken two steps.

1732
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:51,759
Speaker 1: That to me should have.

1733
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:53,879
Speaker 3: Been a touchdown.

1734
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 1: I'm so glad it wasn't, and I'll take the w

1735
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 1: and I'm not upset about it the least. But boy,

1736
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 1: they are losing their minds in Baltimore today, especially because

1737
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:05,719
Speaker 1: it was against the Steelers with the division on the line.

1738
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 19: Well, it's because you have refs out here sounding like

1739
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 19: college freshmen that just took shrooms for the first time, Like, yeah,

1740
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 19: it looks like a catch, but like, isn't this all

1741
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 19: just a simulation, man, And we need refs to be

1742
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 19: consistent humans like hierarchy.

1743
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 3: We like clear laws. We thriving clear laws.

1744
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 19: We need refs, or the NFL would be like playing

1745
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 19: football with that one big, mean neighborhood kid who would

1746
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 19: like make up his own rules. You know, he'd just

1747
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 19: be out there like my team gets five downs and

1748
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:37,839
Speaker 19: your team isn't.

1749
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 1: Allowed to pasketball Like what why is that? Because I

1750
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 1: hit puberty early and my dad's never home. I don't

1751
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:50,719
Speaker 1: know how these refs do it, Like I could never

1752
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 1: ever be a referee. That's why he didn't turn on

1753
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 1: his mic when he said that the like, I.

1754
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:00,759
Speaker 3: Don't these guys.

1755
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 1: I mean, they should bring out a ventriloquist dummy and

1756
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 1: then everyone will just get mad at the dummy to

1757
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:05,919
Speaker 1: make it way more palatable.

1758
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like I can't. I don't.

1759
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 19: I can don't know how I to identify with these

1760
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,680
Speaker 19: guys because they have to make unpopular decisions, like I

1761
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 19: have such an insatiable need to be Like, there is

1762
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 19: no way I could be a referee whatsoever. The first

1763
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 19: time I'd make a call that anybody disagreed with, I'd

1764
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 19: be like false start offense boo uh.

1765
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 3: Never mind fall start defense. That's a thing.

1766
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 1: Take three points off the boards, you guys, look at

1767
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 1: my friends, right, I'm with you on that. Imagine the

1768
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: post game commiserating that goes on with the zebras. I

1769
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 1: mean they just downing cocktails like they make air traffic

1770
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:44,719
Speaker 1: controllers look like yoga instructors in terms of stress.

1771
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 19: Well, because here's the other problem is that the refs

1772
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 19: have to contend with people. They're subject to the popular

1773
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 19: opinion of people who don't know what they're talking about.

1774
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 19: How many people in a sixty thousand seat stadium know

1775
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 19: what constitutes an illegal FORMA well, no, that's true.

1776
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:06,600
Speaker 1: Did you know that, like Gainwell was not on the

1777
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 1: line and that was illegal formation two weeks ago?

1778
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 3: I didn't see. I didn't know that. I didn't know that.

1779
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 19: I'll bet you out of sixty thousand people in a stadium,

1780
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 19: what maybe a thousand people know what like an illegal

1781
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 19: formation is?

1782
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 3: He left the tackle.

1783
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 19: So then let's subtract from that one thousand people the

1784
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 19: people who are so drunk they can't see straight.

1785
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 1: To begin with, there's so many men on the feel

1786
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 1: they got like twenty two guys out there, a lot

1787
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 1: of those wearing the same number like.

1788
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 3: That, Why you have these people have to take.

1789
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 19: The opinions of people who don't know what they're talking

1790
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 19: about into heart like But like Jeff, everybody has to

1791
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:44,639
Speaker 19: take the opinion of people who don't know what they're

1792
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 19: talking about.

1793
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 3: That's true.

1794
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 1: If you have most people with opinions don't know what

1795
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 1: they're talking about.

1796
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 3: That's true.

1797
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 1: I always say opinions are like a holes, you shouldn't

1798
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 1: share yours on Facebook. Jean's territory is gonna join us

1799
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 1: at eight forty five, and I can't wait to hear

1800
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 1: him say things that are going to infuriate Ravens fans

1801
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 1: because he's going into his guns. It's gonna make its

1802
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 1: way back to Baltimore and they're gonna hear that. Jean

1803
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 1: Sterotare popped onto the Steelers flagship station today and said, now,

1804
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 1: the refs had it right all along, and Harbaugh's head

1805
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 1: is going to explode.

1806
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:23,440
Speaker 19: Well in the game, he said that the the uh,

1807
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 19: unnecessary roughness on Coon's was a bad They was like,

1808
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 19: that was a bad call. So, I mean, I don't know,

1809
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 19: like the to me, that gives you credibility. If you're

1810
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 19: saying that one was, then the other one, I think

1811
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 19: that that you can take it. You can take it

1812
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 19: the heart if the other one was by the letter

1813
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 19: of the law, by the letter of the rule.

1814
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 1: The only one they screwed up was that one. Okay,

1815
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 1: But in terms of the eye test, which I think

1816
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 1: most football should be adjudicated, when it's all said and done,

1817
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 1: and it was for you know, the entirety of the

1818
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 1: sport until technology recently made that.

1819
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 3: Uh you know, go away is it?

1820
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:01,639
Speaker 1: If it passes the eye test, it's good enough Rogers

1821
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 1: having possession there.

1822
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 3: I don't know. I know my pin in it against

1823
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 3: the helmet going down? Yeah, the likely touchdown? How is

1824
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 3: it not a touchdown? I don't even get it.

1825
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: But I think the same thing with the Calvin Austin

1826
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 1: catch and is a Flowers catch? Like the lack of

1827
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:18,880
Speaker 1: consistency is what's pissing people off.

1828
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 3: There's no doubt we'll talk to gen. As I said.

1829
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 3: In a half an hour, Abbey's got a news update

1830
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 3: for you.

1831
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 6: First news this hour, brought to you by wind Donation.

1832
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 5: It's cloudy and very cold today with a high of

1833
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 5: just thirty. All right, I want to know what you're

1834
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 5: feeling on This is for big music festivals. If somebody

1835
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 5: brings a beach ball or an inflatable, are.

1836
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 6: They the thun guy or are they a d bag?

1837
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 4: Umm?

1838
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 1: It's weird because there are bands like Metallica that sell

1839
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 1: Metallica beach balls and that is a strange thing to

1840
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 1: me because it doesn't seem to yeah, fit with the

1841
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:02,679
Speaker 1: the vibe. Right, And I know what the story is about.

1842
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 1: I uh, I don't love beach balls, but they don't.

1843
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:09,720
Speaker 3: I don't know they don't. You beach ball comes my way,

1844
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:10,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna bat it around.

1845
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 1: But it depends about It depends on what show though, right, Like,

1846
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 1: I actually don't want it at a Metallica show. To me,

1847
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 1: that's like a Cyndi Laupper thing. Sidney Lapper. Could I

1848
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 1: come up with a more dated reference, but like she's choring,

1849
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 1: But like if like it a Sabrina Carpenter show, they're like,

1850
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 1: it's fun loving, And I disagree with you. I think

1851
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 1: if you were at a funeral and a beach ball

1852
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 1: came your way, you'd be like your instinctual reaction be like,

1853
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 1: keep you upy, keep you up, you.

1854
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 3: Got, that's your first thing.

1855
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 1: Every time I think of a beach ball, I think

1856
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 1: of that Simpsons scene where where U somebody's going I

1857
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 1: can't remember if it's part's going through spank therapy and

1858
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 1: the guy the guy's just spanking him non stop and

1859
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 1: he's spanking him on like for days, and then a

1860
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:52,679
Speaker 1: windows open and a beach ball comes through and sank

1861
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 1: outward motion. But the beach ball at a concert thing

1862
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 1: summer vibes Jimmy Buffett, Sure, but at Marilyn Manson, no.

1863
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 19: I think it pops the tension a little bit, and

1864
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 19: those shows you start realizing you're like, all right, let's

1865
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 19: not take ourselves too seriously.

1866
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 3: The reason you're bringing this story up.

1867
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 5: Is because Garbage was performing in Australia and apparently somebody

1868
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 5: started tossing a beach ball around and some fans apparently

1869
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 5: got annoyed by it, and the performer did too. Shirley

1870
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 5: Manson of Garbage got really upset about it, which actually

1871
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 5: shocked me how upset she got about it, to the

1872
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 5: point where she stopped the show and did a full

1873
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 5: on rant about it.

1874
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 3: Oh God, if you're.

1875
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:43,720
Speaker 24: A big beach ball, I'm so scared of you, so

1876
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 24: thrilled by you.

1877
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 4: What the.

1878
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:54,599
Speaker 1: She went on to say, I joined a band because

1879
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 1: I hate the beach.

1880
01:29:57,479 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 6: It seemed like a deep core wound.

1881
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 1: Something something happened to her at a sand castle or

1882
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 1: carnival or something.

1883
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:06,840
Speaker 3: Her brother was killed by a shark.

1884
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 5: It does seem like on this tour she's been using

1885
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 5: any kind of grievance to use it as a way

1886
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 5: to talk about what artists are owed.

1887
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:26,559
Speaker 3: Her Spotify rant was great, it was.

1888
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 6: The beach Ball ran a little just.

1889
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 1: I don't get it, And we got to point out

1890
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 1: that Pittsburgh, Katie Moran is the tour manager on that

1891
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 1: tour and was probably probably at a front row seat

1892
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 1: for all of that. But I'm wondering what set her

1893
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 1: off about beach Ball. It's just that vibe I think

1894
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 1: doesn't fit garbage shows. It'd be like one at a Courtney Love,

1895
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 1: like a whole show.

1896
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 3: Like it is.

1897
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:57,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of associated more with summary shows, but

1898
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 1: her hatred of it seems really disproportioned.

1899
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:02,680
Speaker 19: Well, she's in Australia and it's summer in Australia, so

1900
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 19: she can't use that as it.

1901
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:04,680
Speaker 3: Maybe that's it.

1902
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:06,839
Speaker 19: She's like, it's winter, it's like not in the Southern Hemisphere.

1903
01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:09,559
Speaker 19: We're still the axis is tilted the other way here

1904
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 19: in Australia.

1905
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:12,679
Speaker 3: Very beachy, I agree, very very beachy.

1906
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 5: Jes is speaking of music festivals for Billy McFarland, it

1907
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:20,680
Speaker 5: appears that third time really is the charm. After the

1908
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:26,480
Speaker 5: colossal failure of Firefest one and fire Fest two, McFarlane

1909
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:31,439
Speaker 5: actually managed to stage a real physical music festival that

1910
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:32,480
Speaker 5: he called Phoenix.

1911
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 6: It was in Honduras on Saturday.

1912
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 5: Nights and artists actually showed up, and people showed up,

1913
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 5: and there were bathrooms and edible food.

1914
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 6: But success is a loose term.

1915
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 5: It probably varies on your interpretation of the word. But

1916
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:55,559
Speaker 5: for McFarland, who spent four hours in prison on fraud

1917
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:58,639
Speaker 5: charges in the aftermath of Fire Festival, he can say

1918
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 5: that he definitely put on a fifties Okay, so it

1919
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 5: was French Montana, okay, Bobby.

1920
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:09,240
Speaker 1: Schermuda, Bobby Schmerda, Schmerda, Yeah.

1921
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't know what.

1922
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:11,160
Speaker 6: I don't know who that is.

1923
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 3: I can't believe you know that. My dog's up in

1924
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:16,080
Speaker 3: the dog house. Sorry, I'm the only one knows that one.

1925
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 3: I can't believe you know Bobby Schmurder.

1926
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 6: Who's Slim Jimmy?

1927
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 3: Slim Jimmy I'm not familiar with.

1928
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 6: Okay.

1929
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 5: Well, they all took the stage at various points on

1930
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 5: Saturday night, and it was live streamed. And I know

1931
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 5: that because I saw a few on TikTok and this

1932
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 5: looked like the saddest office party that you've ever seen

1933
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 5: in your life.

1934
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 3: Look bad, I saw it.

1935
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, just a couple red solo cups and some really

1936
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:41,840
Speaker 5: drunk forty.

1937
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:43,640
Speaker 1: So it looked like festivals that I've been booked at

1938
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 1: in my twenties, like where you go and you're like, yeah, dude,

1939
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:47,679
Speaker 1: huge festival. This is gonna be great for the band,

1940
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 1: and you go nobody's there. Yes, Oh, this isn't as

1941
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 1: great as we talked.

1942
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:55,759
Speaker 5: Very sparsely attended, only a few hundred people on site

1943
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 5: by a very rough count. A social media post shared

1944
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:02,839
Speaker 5: ahead of Saturday's festivities also suggested that locals were encouraged

1945
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:04,800
Speaker 5: to attend for free just to try to like juice

1946
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 5: the numbers. But the live stream was like a pov

1947
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 5: feed price that was like six ninety nine. But even

1948
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:15,679
Speaker 5: that only had one hundred active viewers at its peak,

1949
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:19,519
Speaker 5: so people weren't into it. So they probably took a

1950
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:21,760
Speaker 5: bath on this just to get French Montana.

1951
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 19: They probably had other acts, but the air force blew

1952
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:25,280
Speaker 19: them up in the water.

1953
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:33,679
Speaker 3: Bobby Scher was smart? Are smart at in the Atlantic Ocean?

1954
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 1: Was queuing that up, dude, I mean short of actually,

1955
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 1: holy get in Venezuela, Central America. They don't know the

1956
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 1: difference a boat coming from South America. And I'm going

1957
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:50,360
Speaker 1: to just press the button. Yeah, I don't know who

1958
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:53,680
Speaker 1: gave that guy money. How does he have money to

1959
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 1: throw a festival? How is he paying those acts?

1960
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 19: I literally think there's this whole sub economy of people

1961
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 19: with too much money, like who spend it because it's

1962
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:05,839
Speaker 19: they know it's going nowhere?

1963
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:07,479
Speaker 3: And I feel like this guy.

1964
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:10,840
Speaker 19: Gets funded because there's some like rich oil magnate son.

1965
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 19: That's just like, wouldn't it be funny if I gave

1966
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:17,280
Speaker 19: this guy a million dollars to get Bobby Schmerda to Honduras?

1967
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 3: Like that's how much money these people have?

1968
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:22,719
Speaker 6: This is to do it for the Loll's crowd, right exactly?

1969
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:24,080
Speaker 6: The money?

1970
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:28,559
Speaker 19: Yeah, who travels abroad to go see that show? Like

1971
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 19: that's a show that you'd go to do? What what

1972
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:32,520
Speaker 19: Detroit for? Maybe not to Honduras?

1973
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 3: Agreed?

1974
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 15: No?

1975
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:36,520
Speaker 6: And what happened to Jall?

1976
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 3: He escaped?

1977
01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure how he got away unscathed. I

1978
01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 1: just remember it was already pretty scathed at that point.

1979
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:45,280
Speaker 1: He he he didn't.

1980
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 3: Have a lot of a lot of political capital to

1981
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:49,559
Speaker 3: spend it. I don't think. I don't think the bar

1982
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:50,599
Speaker 3: could have got much lower.

1983
01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:53,520
Speaker 1: Well, when that documentary came out, I remember he played Jurgles,

1984
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,599
Speaker 1: like right after that, and I was thinking, like, one

1985
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:58,839
Speaker 1: guy's in jail and the other guy's playing at Jurgles,

1986
01:34:58,840 --> 01:34:59,639
Speaker 1: and they both were.

1987
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:03,320
Speaker 19: Here's the moral in the story is if fifty cent

1988
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:07,679
Speaker 19: doesn't like you, there's a good reason you should. Yeah,

1989
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:10,840
Speaker 19: listen to fifty cent. He's apparently a great judge of character.

1990
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 1: He kind of is in a weird way that does

1991
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 1: bear out.

1992
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:17,880
Speaker 19: Dude, he was on the peed that he trained like

1993
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 19: a decade ago. Yeah, and no one was listening to him, and.

1994
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:23,640
Speaker 1: He wasn't afraid because everyone thought it was just like petty,

1995
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he had a petty grievance.

1996
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:27,280
Speaker 3: It's like, no, he actually knew what was going on there.

1997
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 19: Yeah, and he was obviously tough enough and rich enough

1998
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:31,439
Speaker 19: to withstand be like, I don't care.

1999
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 3: So now what are you gonna do?

2000
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:36,439
Speaker 1: The diddy thing is kind of I feel like it's

2001
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 1: being underplayed that they basically learned, basically learned he had

2002
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:44,400
Speaker 1: Tupac and Biggie killed and then like made his widow

2003
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 1: sing a song about him while he danced around at

2004
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 1: the Grammys saying.

2005
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:52,599
Speaker 3: How much he loved him, and he's the guy that had.

2006
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 5: Him killed and had him pay for his own funeral,

2007
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:56,759
Speaker 5: had the estate pay for his own funeral.

2008
01:35:56,880 --> 01:36:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that seems like a should be a much

2009
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 1: bigger story in the national consciousness right now.

2010
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:08,120
Speaker 19: No, well, def I mean, but does I don't know,

2011
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:12,599
Speaker 19: Like I think the Tupac Biggie feud is so ingrained

2012
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 19: in American music culture that nobody really I don't know

2013
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 19: if anybody really wants to let go of that yet,

2014
01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 19: like and admit that it was there was a lone actor,

2015
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:24,880
Speaker 19: or that it wasn't some kind of big cultural significance

2016
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 19: and it was just some guy kind of ginning up

2017
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:29,759
Speaker 19: a discord between two rival factions.

2018
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:31,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if we're ready to let go of

2019
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:31,679
Speaker 3: that that yet.

2020
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:34,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it would seem to me that,

2021
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:36,720
Speaker 1: like when we had Bill Bellaman here the other day, Yeah,

2022
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:39,000
Speaker 1: I know he knows a lot of those people, and

2023
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to ask him a lot of

2024
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:42,840
Speaker 1: questions about it that I'm like, yeah, that'd be rude. Well,

2025
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 1: that just he's a good guy. I don't want to

2026
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 1: mess with him.

2027
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:47,840
Speaker 5: Fifty cent was just built to be like one of

2028
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:51,160
Speaker 5: the most hilarious bullies you've ever met in your life.

2029
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:53,760
Speaker 1: The fact that he dated what's her name, the comedians

2030
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 1: Chelsea Handler, Like that is such a funny couple to me.

2031
01:36:57,400 --> 01:36:59,400
Speaker 1: That's a pretty funny cuffle right up there with Brigitte

2032
01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 1: Nielsen and Flavor Flame. Yeah, like, just do not see

2033
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:08,599
Speaker 1: these two haven't anything in common, and yet they apparently

2034
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 1: had one thing that was really important.

2035
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:15,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is very cold today.

2036
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 6: It's gonna be high of just thirty.

2037
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 3: Mike will be in with your sports.

2038
01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:20,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to Jean staretur at eight forty five

2039
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:21,640
Speaker 1: today and he's.

2040
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:24,920
Speaker 3: Gonna lay it all out for you how that all unfolded.

2041
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 1: And except for the unnecessary roughness on Coon's on that

2042
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:33,519
Speaker 1: field goal, they got it right on the other ones.

2043
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 1: I don't know Ravens fans, I think they have a

2044
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:37,200
Speaker 1: right to be pissed today.

2045
01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:39,639
Speaker 3: I'm happy with it. We beat the Ravens. I don't

2046
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:40,599
Speaker 3: care how it happened.

2047
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 1: We're in first place in the AFC North and I'm

2048
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:45,639
Speaker 1: gonna enjoy it because you have all the way until

2049
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 1: Monday night when the Dolphins come to town for Monday

2050
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:51,760
Speaker 1: Night Football. To live in this world where the Steelers

2051
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 1: are headed to the playoffs. Now, if they lose on

2052
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 1: Monday night. Well, things start to turning. The others didn't

2053
01:37:58,920 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 1: look bad either.

2054
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:00,000
Speaker 3: Yesterday.

2055
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:02,720
Speaker 5: Now four wins in a row and Steelers in primetime

2056
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:03,800
Speaker 5: always makes.

2057
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:05,639
Speaker 6: Me pucker a little bit.

2058
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:08,160
Speaker 3: Rob came with a power hour. The pucker hour is

2059
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:09,720
Speaker 3: a better name for it. May Yeah, I like it.

2060
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's coming up at nine o'clock here on your radio.

2061
01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:15,360
Speaker 1: Home of the Steelers one o two point five DVE.

2062
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:20,559
Speaker 16: Wherever you're driving, DVE has everything you need for the drive.

2063
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 16: Chad Tyson rocks Pittsburgh weekday afternoons on DVE. He also

2064
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:29,080
Speaker 16: has a reloaded cut from the DVE Morning Show and

2065
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 16: sports News. Look, there's a road sign up ahead, it

2066
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:36,280
Speaker 16: says Chad Tyson afternoons on DVE.

2067
01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 3: From the Bridgeville applying sports like.

2068
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:43,679
Speaker 1: The Suitor joining us now, Steelers twenty seven, Ravens twenty

2069
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 1: two Battle for the AFC North at M ANDT Bank

2070
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 1: in Baltimore.

2071
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 3: Yesterday goes the Steelers way. I wonder what it was

2072
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:52,120
Speaker 3: like walking out of there.

2073
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you you know what's funny now,

2074
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 1: And I was thinking about this yesterday. Walking out of

2075
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 1: sporting events now is just a like dodging a myriad

2076
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:08,360
Speaker 1: of people who are recording their like rage, yes, yeah,

2077
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:12,839
Speaker 1: just staring into their camera, walking and talking and screaming.

2078
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:14,599
Speaker 1: I saw a bunch of that from the Big Ten

2079
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 1: Championship on Saturday night. Again, congratulations Jacob to your Indiana Hoosiers.

2080
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:20,679
Speaker 1: And I saw a bunch of it from the Ravens

2081
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 1: game yesterday. Just we're turning into these people who don't

2082
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 1: even talk to each other. It's excuse me, I need

2083
01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 1: to talk to my audience. If I was a Steelers fan,

2084
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 1: I think I wouldn't have walked out. I would have run, yeah,

2085
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:37,040
Speaker 1: to get as far away from people as I I

2086
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 1: would have waited in the stadium for like an hour

2087
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:40,599
Speaker 1: and let it clear out.

2088
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 19: Either that or you go to the Ravens pro shop,

2089
01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 19: you get a shirt on discount, you throw that over

2090
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:49,680
Speaker 19: top of everything, and you just start shaking your head

2091
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:52,360
Speaker 19: and saying freaking reps the whole way out. And then

2092
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 19: you're saying, right like the end of victory where they

2093
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:57,760
Speaker 19: all put the coats on, you know, yo. That's why

2094
01:39:57,800 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 19: I always bring a fake mustache every away. Again, it's

2095
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 19: Smart Sports.

2096
01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:05,799
Speaker 1: Us Up, brought to you by Bridgeville.

2097
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 12: Applying to the Steels cap the most tumultuous week in

2098
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:13,879
Speaker 12: Mike Tobblins nineteen seasons with a dramatic, potentially seed season

2099
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:19,040
Speaker 12: saving win in Baltimore wide receiver Calvin Austin. I insisted

2100
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 12: all the negativity pouring from the stands at Acriture the

2101
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:25,960
Speaker 12: previous Sunday had no bearing on how the players approached

2102
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 12: beating the Ravens, to be like, we don't care.

2103
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:35,280
Speaker 24: Oh, like the whole world is each hand and fire coaches.

2104
01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:39,719
Speaker 24: We're gonna do a coachino and at playing talking room

2105
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 24: behind him, so.

2106
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 1: The whole world could be It sounded like the whole

2107
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:48,720
Speaker 1: world was. I love that guy, I Colvin Austin. Now,

2108
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 1: Calvin Austin just seems like a good teammate. I don't

2109
01:40:51,400 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 1: know every sound clip I've heard of him, it just

2110
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:55,400
Speaker 1: sounds sounds like he's a good locker room guy.

2111
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:56,960
Speaker 3: He's been on the show a few times and it's

2112
01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:57,759
Speaker 3: always outstanding.

2113
01:40:57,800 --> 01:40:59,719
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, root for They got a lot of respect

2114
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:03,280
Speaker 12: for that. I mean he's got obviously some he's vertically challenged.

2115
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:06,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's so fast. I mean, yeah, you to

2116
01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:07,439
Speaker 3: our earlier point, you can.

2117
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 1: Have one of those guys, you can't have a bunch

2118
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 1: of them.

2119
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:16,639
Speaker 12: Linebacker Patrick Queen, another Steelers player who maintained that part

2120
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:19,160
Speaker 12: of the deal last week was just ignore the noise.

2121
01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 10: I mean, at the end of the day, this media

2122
01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:25,679
Speaker 10: media gonna do stuff like that. Any guy the build

2123
01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:28,720
Speaker 10: I can care less. You know, it's a brotherhood as

2124
01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:31,479
Speaker 10: a family. We got each other's back. All we cared

2125
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 10: about was in the building. All the stuff outside we

2126
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:35,560
Speaker 10: could care less about. We just wanting to do his

2127
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:38,320
Speaker 10: best for us on our team. So just being able

2128
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:40,080
Speaker 10: to get a win like this right now, he's just

2129
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 10: gonna create momental I think at the end of the day,

2130
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:45,040
Speaker 10: we all understand how everything went this week, so we

2131
01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 10: need to repeat that this week.

2132
01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 3: You know, he's talking about how everything went.

2133
01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:52,080
Speaker 12: He meant the whole preparation process and practice in the

2134
01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:53,080
Speaker 12: meetings and everything.

2135
01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 3: It's it matters now.

2136
01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:57,599
Speaker 12: I mean it matters in September two, but it really

2137
01:41:57,600 --> 01:41:58,240
Speaker 12: matters now.

2138
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:04,559
Speaker 3: But this is why griping helps the fans. All of

2139
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:08,320
Speaker 3: that noise last week put the pressure on these guys.

2140
01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:10,920
Speaker 1: Not that they wouldn't have had a certain amount of

2141
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:13,559
Speaker 1: pressure they would put on themselves to perform better, but

2142
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:18,880
Speaker 1: the noise, the cacophony of complaints coming from Steeler Nation

2143
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:22,840
Speaker 1: really puts the pressure on them, like, hey, you guys

2144
01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:25,400
Speaker 1: got we got to focus here. And as much as

2145
01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 1: I didn't love the fact that Aaron Rodgers seemed very

2146
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 1: casual about I mean, it's just the Ravens game, and

2147
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:33,160
Speaker 1: you know it's a big, big game. We just gotta

2148
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:35,599
Speaker 1: we just gotta be better in preparation. And I wanted

2149
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:38,639
Speaker 1: him to be more like TJ. Watt, foaming at the mouth, like, yeah,

2150
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:39,160
Speaker 1: this is.

2151
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:41,880
Speaker 3: The raven But he's like that during the game. He's

2152
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:44,479
Speaker 3: like that dealing. Well, you saw you wanted to murder

2153
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:49,720
Speaker 3: Arthur Smith yesterday. Yes, maybe been a favor of How

2154
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:51,439
Speaker 3: did they know I have a play ready to go?

2155
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:51,679
Speaker 15: There?

2156
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 3: He's subbing a guy. You know, we didn't catch it.

2157
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:55,680
Speaker 1: Let's just get up there and do something silly, and

2158
01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 1: I you know, and you see him get pissed. Apy

2159
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:01,080
Speaker 1: I know that he saves his excitement for the ice.

2160
01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:05,439
Speaker 1: I get all right, But I even think that the

2161
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:08,960
Speaker 1: coaching was better this week. They were way better coached

2162
01:43:09,040 --> 01:43:11,800
Speaker 1: up on defense, even though they let the Ravens run

2163
01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:13,080
Speaker 1: for over two hundred yards.

2164
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:17,400
Speaker 3: Oddly, it looked better than it did against the bill.

2165
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 12: I don't think you're saying I thought it was pretty credible. Now,

2166
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:23,240
Speaker 12: two seventeen sucks on paper, but one of those runs

2167
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:26,680
Speaker 12: was a what sixty five yard? No, I mean that

2168
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:31,400
Speaker 12: it counts. But they didn't let Baltimore dictate the game running,

2169
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:35,599
Speaker 12: which is what Buffalo did. And and because they didn't

2170
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:37,840
Speaker 12: let Baltimore dictate the game running, they were able to

2171
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:40,559
Speaker 12: play from ahead, and that helped Romo.

2172
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 1: Romo's going nuts that they weren't running the ball. He's like,

2173
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:48,360
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Our bud does this historically against

2174
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:49,240
Speaker 1: us all the time.

2175
01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:52,000
Speaker 3: It doesn't against other people. He's nineteen thirty five for

2176
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:53,200
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson yesterday.

2177
01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 12: I don't know why they just don't go big ten

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Speaker 12: and you know, old school big ten and run the

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Speaker 12: ball sixty times and throw it eight.

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Speaker 3: It would work, It probably would.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's you know that he's got his detractors

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01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:10,400
Speaker 1: in his neighborhood too, And that's why, because they too

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Speaker 1: often get away from the run.

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Speaker 19: That two minute drill at the end of the game

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01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:17,639
Speaker 19: for Baltimore would have you would have on the post

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Speaker 19: game wrap up show. You can better believe that was

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01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:21,600
Speaker 19: going to be a topic of conversation. That seemed like

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Speaker 19: they were taking their sweet old time getting down the field.

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Speaker 1: Lamar is bad in those situations, like as much like

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Speaker 1: I kind of wonder is Caleb Williams going to be

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01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:35,800
Speaker 1: the next Lamar? Like all this potential that never gets realized.

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Speaker 1: And with Lamar it's just the big games. He just

2193
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:40,360
Speaker 1: crumbles in big games and crumbles in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: That's not good. You saw what was.

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Speaker 1: The they posted his record like against division rivals and

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01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:50,240
Speaker 1: in the postseason it's not good at all, and it's

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Speaker 1: almost spotless against everybody everybody else. But that's no margarcypar

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like, oh, was it

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Speaker 1: eleven nothing? Yeah, he was five for five today? Was

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01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:03,400
Speaker 1: it two to one? Yeah he was over four. There's

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Speaker 1: some of that every once in a while. Defensively, they

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Speaker 1: clearly have their warts.

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Speaker 12: Statistically, they're not good, and we've all seen them blow

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01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:16,600
Speaker 12: coverages and get run over and all the warts have

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01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:21,120
Speaker 12: been on display. But safe situations. This isn't an NFL

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01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:23,400
Speaker 12: stat but it's one of my stats. When they're on

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Speaker 12: the field at the end of the game and they

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Speaker 12: have to get a stop to win their four and one. Wow, Really, Jets,

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Speaker 12: New England, Minnesota and Baltimore yesterday. Wow, they blew the

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Speaker 12: game at Cincinnati. Remember the long Rogers to fryarmooth play

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Speaker 12: and then they let the Bengals go down the field and.

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Speaker 3: Score it again.

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Speaker 12: They also did not keep the Seattle game in one

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Speaker 12: score game in the fourth quarter, latter stages of the

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Speaker 12: fourth quarter. Remember they hit that long pass, Yeah on

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Speaker 12: Jalen Ramsey. I think that was Jackson, Smith and Jigma.

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Speaker 12: But in the Chicago game, they got the ball back

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01:45:56,640 --> 01:45:59,640
Speaker 12: twice for the offense and the offense couldn't finish it.

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01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:03,080
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is one in six, one and six versus

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, two and four versus the Bills, three and

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Speaker 1: five versus the Steelers, and three and five in the playoffs. Oh,

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Speaker 1: he's also two time MVP, and he may well win

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Speaker 1: another one before he's done.

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Speaker 3: Not this year, Not this year, Not this year. He

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Speaker 3: looked banged up.

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Speaker 19: I mean like even on some of the rushing plays,

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Speaker 19: like you could almost see him Winsie.

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Speaker 3: What's he is?

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Speaker 1: He? I thought he moved his ankles all messed up.

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Speaker 1: I thought that he moved pretty well all things considered.

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Speaker 1: And Romo was pointing that out to He's.

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Speaker 3: Like, oh, I see the explosiveness. He never looks rattled

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Speaker 3: when the pressure's on. He has a great feel for

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Speaker 3: the pocket. And they can't bring him down. Yeah, nobody

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01:46:43,479 --> 01:46:45,360
Speaker 3: can bring that. Driving me nuts.

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Speaker 19: Yesterday her big high Smith all had him, TJ had

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Speaker 19: him wrapped up at one point. They just couldn't get

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Speaker 19: him down before he hold on to his legs. Please

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Speaker 19: fall down, Please fall down. I know he wanted to

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Speaker 19: roll him there so bad, bite.

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Speaker 12: Him, but they just disrupted timing, and they disrupted him.

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01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 12: He didn't just drop back and stick on his spot

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Speaker 12: and throw it when he wanted to throw it where

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Speaker 12: he wanted to throw it.

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Speaker 1: Well, the big story though, was the officiating, no question

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Speaker 1: about it.

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Speaker 1: From the NFL on she USh It's Gene Gene the

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Speaker 1: Reviewing Jeans Sarahtoor Ladies and Gentlemen. The most sought after

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Speaker 1: NFL guests in America today, Well in Pittsburgh and Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: that's for sure. Uh, GEO, quite a game yesterday, and

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Speaker 1: let's just get right into it. The first one I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about is the Isaiah likely touchdown or

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Speaker 1: the no touchdown. Okay, you made it clear on the broadcast,

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Speaker 1: and then afterward, there are three criteria that need to

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Speaker 1: be met.

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Speaker 3: Secure control of the ball. He had that. He had

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Speaker 3: to have both feet or a body part other than

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Speaker 3: hands inbounds. He had that.

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Speaker 1: But you have to have a football move, which means

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01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:20,280
Speaker 1: taking a third step or have tucked the ball in

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01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:25,720
Speaker 1: to maintain control of the ball long enough to look

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Speaker 1: as if you've made a football move.

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Speaker 3: That's where I'm lost on this.

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Speaker 1: To me, landing in the end zone with the ball

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01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:36,799
Speaker 1: in your hands and taking two steps, I would consider

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Speaker 1: that a football move.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, that's listen. The catch itself is a subjective when

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01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:50,760
Speaker 15: it finishes has always been a subjective piece of a

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Speaker 15: replay ruling like this. So in order for the stakeholders

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01:50:55,640 --> 01:50:58,120
Speaker 15: to put a play like this in the game, they

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01:50:58,160 --> 01:51:01,920
Speaker 15: have to develop frame by frame, line by line, black

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Speaker 15: and white hopefully criteria. And when you have a subjective

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Speaker 15: element that you can't change to be a black and

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Speaker 15: white element because of a review.

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Speaker 3: You're going to.

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Speaker 15: End up to this definition, and then you're going to

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Speaker 15: find these plays, which you know I was part of

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Speaker 15: with Calvin Johnson des Bryant. I think the Jesse James

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01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:24,160
Speaker 15: play fell in that category where there's this element of

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01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:27,680
Speaker 15: subjectivity at one piece of it, and then you've got

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Speaker 15: to try to make that ruling and hope that that

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01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:33,960
Speaker 15: ruling squares with what our saying. Is one hundred people

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Speaker 15: in the bar, I'll look at it and go, it's

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Speaker 15: this and we can say, yeah, ninety nine point five

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Speaker 15: of us agree. But that's where this play goes in

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Speaker 15: my opinion. Now, when Likely possesses the football, and I

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01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:49,040
Speaker 15: think it's important to say that those elements have to

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01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 15: happen in that one two three sequence. So he does

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01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:54,759
Speaker 15: have to possess the ball first, because if he's bobbling

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Speaker 15: the ball, his feet don't mean anything yet, so the

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01:51:57,439 --> 01:52:01,479
Speaker 15: possession initiates that three step process. Then you have to

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01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:04,200
Speaker 15: get at least two feet down or a body part

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01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 15: which equals two feet and then if he's not going

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Speaker 15: to the ground, if he's going to the ground, he

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01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:12,960
Speaker 15: has to survive the ground at that point, or if

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Speaker 15: he makes as likely as scenario is a third step,

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Speaker 15: a full step right after the second step. Now the

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Speaker 15: next foot is the third step, the play is done

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01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:28,000
Speaker 15: and completed, or if he doesn't have that piece in

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01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:32,200
Speaker 15: it because of des Bryant's play, who had two steps

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Speaker 15: and then reached for the end zone or reached for

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Speaker 15: the line to gain or have the ball in this

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01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:40,919
Speaker 15: case likely. The uniqueness of this play, in my opinion,

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Speaker 15: is that when Likely possesses this ball initially, his arms

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01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:49,080
Speaker 15: are fully extended away from him. So he's possessed the

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Speaker 15: ball with his arms fully extended. And now you start

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Speaker 15: one foot two feet and he remains with the ball

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01:52:55,080 --> 01:52:57,920
Speaker 15: fully extended, so and he has to keep it there

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Speaker 15: because he doesn't want to tuck it away because Porter

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01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:02,360
Speaker 15: is going to knock the ball out of his hands.

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01:53:02,360 --> 01:53:04,639
Speaker 15: Maybe if he doesn't, you know, keep it away from him.

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Speaker 15: But there is no real action, then that says, okay,

2365
01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:12,879
Speaker 15: where's the football move pulling it back to your body,

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01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:17,000
Speaker 15: reaching something or this time element because the third foot

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01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:19,600
Speaker 15: doesn't get down. Just as his third foot goes to

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01:53:19,880 --> 01:53:22,719
Speaker 15: hit the ground, the ball does pop out right before

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01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:27,719
Speaker 15: it and it's within three frames and therein lies everything

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Speaker 15: that's happening, I'm sure for the last fifteen whatever hours, right,

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Speaker 15: So that's that window. And this play went right to

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Speaker 15: this edge of no, dude, that's a touchdown. And but

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01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:42,240
Speaker 15: wait a minute, let's go by the principles to break

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Speaker 15: it down. And then, quite honestly, and I've been a

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Speaker 15: proponent against this in some ways with replay and our

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01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:51,960
Speaker 15: fans and what's good for the game. If we slow

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01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:55,960
Speaker 15: these things down so much to get these little elements done,

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01:53:56,680 --> 01:53:59,599
Speaker 15: then you've extended how long did he really have the football?

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01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 15: It feels like he had the football forever?

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01:54:02,840 --> 01:54:03,800
Speaker 3: So it does.

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01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:07,320
Speaker 15: That's where this all that's where this all lies, and

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01:54:07,400 --> 01:54:11,160
Speaker 15: that's what's going to create this buzz forever, regardless of

2383
01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:14,720
Speaker 15: how you start to massage this play or how we're

2384
01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:18,160
Speaker 15: going to review the play. And that's really the gist

2385
01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:21,400
Speaker 15: of that. And at the end, what everybody is going

2386
01:54:21,439 --> 01:54:24,639
Speaker 15: to talk about forever here is I thought he had

2387
01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:26,800
Speaker 15: the foot, you know, Joe says. I think he had

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01:54:26,800 --> 01:54:29,280
Speaker 15: the football long enough. Whether he made it's going to

2389
01:54:29,320 --> 01:54:32,200
Speaker 15: overt act physically with the ball or as irrelevant. I

2390
01:54:32,200 --> 01:54:34,400
Speaker 15: thought he had it long enough. And those on the

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01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 15: other end will say he doesn't, right. I mean, so

2392
01:54:37,680 --> 01:54:41,320
Speaker 15: that's really the essence of this type of play. I

2393
01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:44,840
Speaker 15: think we all have to be careful as we enhance technology,

2394
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:49,640
Speaker 15: as communication above down below is getting increased. Because of

2395
01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:54,040
Speaker 15: all these new good, shiny objects that hopefully are helping,

2396
01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:56,839
Speaker 15: we've got to make sure that some of this stuff

2397
01:54:57,200 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 15: doesn't end up at the end of the day and

2398
01:54:59,080 --> 01:55:02,640
Speaker 15: we say, look, yes, it's great new technology, but is

2399
01:55:02,680 --> 01:55:05,800
Speaker 15: it good for the game? And I think that's a

2400
01:55:05,960 --> 01:55:09,360
Speaker 15: bigger question. But really that's really how I broke the

2401
01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:12,320
Speaker 15: play down in real time within these seconds, and and

2402
01:55:12,400 --> 01:55:14,920
Speaker 15: naturally after listening to everybody in the United States with

2403
01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:17,080
Speaker 15: their own opinion here in the last ten hours. You know,

2404
01:55:17,440 --> 01:55:19,400
Speaker 15: that's kind of just where you've got to fall at

2405
01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:22,720
Speaker 15: the end of the day with the play. And that's

2406
01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:24,040
Speaker 15: that's really I think where we are.

2407
01:55:24,440 --> 01:55:28,400
Speaker 12: Jeane speaking of people who had opinions the Aaron Rodgers

2408
01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:34,520
Speaker 12: catch of the ball that got batted back, John Harbass

2409
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:39,160
Speaker 12: said you have to survive the ground. He didn't survive

2410
01:55:39,240 --> 01:55:41,560
Speaker 12: the ground. Is he correct or incorrect on that?

2411
01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:46,800
Speaker 15: Well, that's a really there's so many hard plays in

2412
01:55:46,840 --> 01:55:49,160
Speaker 15: that game. That play was that play is that I

2413
01:55:49,240 --> 01:55:52,720
Speaker 15: never saw anything like this play. I think the fact

2414
01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:56,720
Speaker 15: that Rogers, I think he has some some point. I

2415
01:55:56,800 --> 01:55:59,120
Speaker 15: really would love to dive in a little further with

2416
01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:03,920
Speaker 15: those plays in that play specifically, for some other definitions,

2417
01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:04,440
Speaker 15: going to.

2418
01:56:04,440 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 3: The ground usually.

2419
01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:07,880
Speaker 15: Means that you possess the football or does mean you

2420
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:11,320
Speaker 15: possessed the football while you're upright or airborne, and you

2421
01:56:11,480 --> 01:56:13,920
Speaker 15: never gain control of your body as you're going to

2422
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:17,000
Speaker 15: the grounds, you're stumbling falling. Right after you possess a

2423
01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:19,960
Speaker 15: football airborne, then you have to survive the ground because

2424
01:56:20,320 --> 01:56:22,560
Speaker 15: these other steps and all the other elements I just

2425
01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:25,680
Speaker 15: gave you are pretty much based on a person who

2426
01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:27,600
Speaker 15: is upright when they come back to the ground if

2427
01:56:27,600 --> 01:56:31,960
Speaker 15: they're airborne and possessing it. In Rogers's play, it's if

2428
01:56:32,000 --> 01:56:35,120
Speaker 15: he's possessing that football and his knee is already on

2429
01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:37,560
Speaker 15: the ground, he has met a lot of elements and

2430
01:56:37,720 --> 01:56:41,080
Speaker 15: truthfully being touched by a defensive player as well. So

2431
01:56:41,280 --> 01:56:43,520
Speaker 15: is he going to the ground or is he already

2432
01:56:43,600 --> 01:56:47,080
Speaker 15: on the ground when he's possessing the football. And if

2433
01:56:47,080 --> 01:56:50,120
Speaker 15: he's already on the ground now and it's clear completed

2434
01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:54,160
Speaker 15: possession and then gets hit, he really does it's not

2435
01:56:54,280 --> 01:56:56,640
Speaker 15: going to the ground. Now he was there whenever the

2436
01:56:56,680 --> 01:57:00,680
Speaker 15: possession took place, and then the contact, the stripping of

2437
01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:03,600
Speaker 15: the ball or whatever that action would happen at the after.

2438
01:57:03,680 --> 01:57:07,920
Speaker 15: That is really that another piece of this subjective stuff

2439
01:57:07,960 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 15: that causes people to you know, not like officials for

2440
01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:14,360
Speaker 15: trying to apply rules that are being written that they're

2441
01:57:14,360 --> 01:57:16,520
Speaker 15: trying to make sure they get right. So it's in

2442
01:57:16,560 --> 01:57:17,640
Speaker 15: that window as well.

2443
01:57:17,680 --> 01:57:18,840
Speaker 3: And I thought that.

2444
01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:20,760
Speaker 15: One was really close because there's not a lot of

2445
01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:24,280
Speaker 15: time elements there either, right, So is it just immediately dead,

2446
01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:29,160
Speaker 15: immediately upon his possession with his knee down, little windows

2447
01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:32,120
Speaker 15: of further discussion, I think on that play quite honestly.

2448
01:57:32,240 --> 01:57:34,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, See, that's the question I have because to me,

2449
01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:37,480
Speaker 1: just because he's down, you know, I was asking Mike,

2450
01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:39,320
Speaker 1: does the tie go to the runner? Which is to say,

2451
01:57:39,560 --> 01:57:41,960
Speaker 1: at that point the person who's down, If there are

2452
01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:43,520
Speaker 1: two people who are in the act of trying to

2453
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:45,880
Speaker 1: possess it, but one of them is down, does it

2454
01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:47,280
Speaker 1: automatically go to that person?

2455
01:57:49,160 --> 01:57:52,440
Speaker 15: Offense? Winds All tis just like baseball, right, buying a

2456
01:57:52,520 --> 01:57:56,520
Speaker 15: first base glove ball and glove put on base. Tie

2457
01:57:56,520 --> 01:57:57,440
Speaker 15: goes to the runner.

2458
01:57:57,560 --> 01:58:01,440
Speaker 1: So he's down and and equally fighting for the ball

2459
01:58:01,480 --> 01:58:05,640
Speaker 1: with the defender who is not and therefore he has

2460
01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:11,000
Speaker 1: the possession and he's down, and so so that that

2461
01:58:11,160 --> 01:58:13,800
Speaker 1: was yes, you know, I got I get what you're saying.

2462
01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:15,880
Speaker 1: Even if he is down, offense wins that one.

2463
01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:19,800
Speaker 3: That's right, okay, because that was my question.

2464
01:58:20,480 --> 01:58:23,080
Speaker 1: It seemed like he was still fighting for the ball

2465
01:58:23,120 --> 01:58:26,320
Speaker 1: when he was down and there was not a definitive

2466
01:58:26,920 --> 01:58:30,080
Speaker 1: possession on either side on that point, I thought he

2467
01:58:30,160 --> 01:58:33,360
Speaker 1: had it and then went down. That's just personal interpretation.

2468
01:58:33,440 --> 01:58:34,680
Speaker 3: So you you you.

2469
01:58:34,720 --> 01:58:36,640
Speaker 1: Explain both of those to us, so we get that

2470
01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:39,120
Speaker 1: those were actually both properly called.

2471
01:58:39,240 --> 01:58:42,280
Speaker 3: Right expert calls. Great job, great.

2472
01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:45,440
Speaker 1: Job, just happened to benefit the Steelers and that and

2473
01:58:45,480 --> 01:58:51,520
Speaker 1: that's that's okay. You know, sometimes don't fold under pressure

2474
01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:53,960
Speaker 1: and are able to go into a tough enviire that

2475
01:58:54,080 --> 01:58:57,720
Speaker 1: you execute as they are trained to do. Yes, God

2476
01:58:57,720 --> 01:58:59,160
Speaker 1: bless the NFL officials.

2477
01:58:59,200 --> 01:59:02,400
Speaker 3: Sometimes good things happened to good people. Yes, that's right,

2478
01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:04,160
Speaker 3: and this is what happens, and you have it.

2479
01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:05,360
Speaker 15: This is what happens.

2480
01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:07,480
Speaker 25: Did you have an interviewer do an interview in the

2481
01:59:07,480 --> 01:59:11,560
Speaker 25: Pittsburgh area and that travels to hundred foul southeast of

2482
01:59:11,600 --> 01:59:14,840
Speaker 25: Pittsburgh and get on another radio pho and then listen

2483
01:59:14,960 --> 01:59:15,760
Speaker 25: to someone else.

2484
01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:18,960
Speaker 15: So, yes, to start the morning off in a positive

2485
01:59:19,000 --> 01:59:20,880
Speaker 15: way to some extent, I appreciate it.

2486
01:59:21,280 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 3: Well, now let me ask you this.

2487
01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:24,560
Speaker 1: It does seem like they screwed up the personal foul

2488
01:59:24,920 --> 01:59:30,959
Speaker 1: on the field goal. Yes, on the Christian Kount's unnecessary roughness.

2489
01:59:32,200 --> 01:59:35,520
Speaker 1: What is the actual rule supposed to be there? You're

2490
01:59:35,560 --> 01:59:38,160
Speaker 1: not allowed to make contact with head and neck or

2491
01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:39,200
Speaker 1: any contact.

2492
01:59:41,320 --> 01:59:42,960
Speaker 15: I agree with you. I think they missed that too,

2493
01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:46,000
Speaker 15: and I think I did verbalize that on air. First

2494
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:49,720
Speaker 15: and foremost, the center is a defenseless player by his definition,

2495
01:59:50,360 --> 01:59:52,400
Speaker 15: so it puts him in the same category as a

2496
01:59:52,440 --> 01:59:55,720
Speaker 15: receiver who's running a crossing route right the quarterback. We

2497
01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:58,400
Speaker 15: know the people that are defenseless because we're learning all

2498
01:59:58,440 --> 02:00:02,160
Speaker 15: of those things. So because his head is down snapping

2499
02:00:02,240 --> 02:00:06,000
Speaker 15: like that, is vulnerable, is not any position immediately to

2500
02:00:06,040 --> 02:00:10,960
Speaker 15: be able to defend himself, so he receives defenseless player protections.

2501
02:00:11,040 --> 02:00:14,400
Speaker 15: That's why they move the noseguard or any defensive player

2502
02:00:14,840 --> 02:00:17,240
Speaker 15: is not allowed to be lined up prior to the

2503
02:00:17,320 --> 02:00:21,000
Speaker 15: snap within the frame of the entire center's body. As

2504
02:00:21,040 --> 02:00:23,560
Speaker 15: wide as he may be. That's why you see de

2505
02:00:23,760 --> 02:00:27,400
Speaker 15: tackles right in the A gap, not shading over top

2506
02:00:27,400 --> 02:00:29,960
Speaker 15: of the center. You'll see referees push or trying to

2507
02:00:30,040 --> 02:00:32,880
Speaker 15: nudge them away a little to make them illegal. So

2508
02:00:33,120 --> 02:00:35,640
Speaker 15: right when that occurs and the snap occurs, now the

2509
02:00:35,680 --> 02:00:38,400
Speaker 15: defensive player at the snap can't be lined up outside

2510
02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:40,120
Speaker 15: of the center's frame. And then as soon as the

2511
02:00:40,120 --> 02:00:43,000
Speaker 15: ball gets snapped with the center's head in most cases

2512
02:00:43,040 --> 02:00:45,960
Speaker 15: still down and not able to defend himself, you can't

2513
02:00:45,960 --> 02:00:48,320
Speaker 15: go from the A gap or over the guard and

2514
02:00:48,400 --> 02:00:51,200
Speaker 15: immediately take a hard left or right and then blast

2515
02:00:51,240 --> 02:00:55,120
Speaker 15: the center in the headneck area because his head's down.

2516
02:00:55,240 --> 02:00:58,040
Speaker 15: So yes, because he's defenseless, he don't want to have

2517
02:00:59,120 --> 02:01:02,600
Speaker 15: contacted worse to the head neck area while he's defenseless,

2518
02:01:02,600 --> 02:01:04,480
Speaker 15: which is kind of that breadth of a second or

2519
02:01:04,520 --> 02:01:06,600
Speaker 15: so until he can get his head up, get in

2520
02:01:06,640 --> 02:01:10,520
Speaker 15: a blocking posture and defend himself. In this case, I

2521
02:01:10,600 --> 02:01:14,560
Speaker 15: thought that Pittsburgh went into the A gap. I also

2522
02:01:14,720 --> 02:01:17,840
Speaker 15: felt like they're an initial contact with both of the

2523
02:01:17,920 --> 02:01:19,960
Speaker 15: D tackles in that case, and I was looking at

2524
02:01:20,000 --> 02:01:23,480
Speaker 15: both of the ninety numbers. Was with the guard first

2525
02:01:23,600 --> 02:01:26,800
Speaker 15: and then in the A gap he really never they

2526
02:01:26,840 --> 02:01:29,920
Speaker 15: never really did contact the headneck area. And now even

2527
02:01:29,960 --> 02:01:32,480
Speaker 15: if it's not headneck area, if it's violent enough and

2528
02:01:32,520 --> 02:01:36,640
Speaker 15: you go into him and blast him, trample him, foul.

2529
02:01:37,200 --> 02:01:40,160
Speaker 15: But those two players, to me rush the A gap

2530
02:01:40,200 --> 02:01:43,520
Speaker 15: as they're taught to do. There was some incidental contact

2531
02:01:43,640 --> 02:01:46,560
Speaker 15: with the censer, but nothing that would have risen to

2532
02:01:46,640 --> 02:01:48,880
Speaker 15: the level of contacted defensive player.

2533
02:01:50,760 --> 02:01:53,480
Speaker 3: The argument it has to be head or neck is incorrect.

2534
02:01:55,480 --> 02:01:58,880
Speaker 15: I think it probably falls in that same category. Might yeah,

2535
02:01:58,920 --> 02:02:01,440
Speaker 15: because if it's a medium head and neck it's immediately

2536
02:02:01,480 --> 02:02:04,600
Speaker 15: a foul. But just as in other plays, even if

2537
02:02:04,640 --> 02:02:06,600
Speaker 15: I don't hit you in the head and neck area,

2538
02:02:06,640 --> 02:02:08,960
Speaker 15: it's a punter that punted the football and both of

2539
02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:12,839
Speaker 15: his feet came down, so he's really not getting protection

2540
02:02:13,040 --> 02:02:15,520
Speaker 15: like a punter would because he's defenseless airborne with his

2541
02:02:15,600 --> 02:02:19,360
Speaker 15: plant leg down. If the contact is severe enough, I'm

2542
02:02:19,400 --> 02:02:22,680
Speaker 15: still calling unnecessary roughness on the contact, So there's still

2543
02:02:22,720 --> 02:02:25,960
Speaker 15: a degree of contact. That plays may be a different

2544
02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:29,280
Speaker 15: foul by its definition, but still would be a foul.

2545
02:02:29,480 --> 02:02:32,080
Speaker 15: And I didn't think either of those pieces had really

2546
02:02:32,080 --> 02:02:34,280
Speaker 15: taken place with that contact. That was a big.

2547
02:02:34,120 --> 02:02:36,080
Speaker 3: Play well that was a four point run run.

2548
02:02:36,160 --> 02:02:37,880
Speaker 1: So you know what, as a gesture of good faith,

2549
02:02:37,920 --> 02:02:40,000
Speaker 1: I'm willing to give the Ravens those four points back.

2550
02:02:46,680 --> 02:02:47,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2551
02:02:47,560 --> 02:02:51,320
Speaker 1: Wait no, wait, no wait, I'm not I'm not. I'm

2552
02:02:51,360 --> 02:02:53,960
Speaker 1: not willing to give it back. Yeah, never mind three

2553
02:02:54,040 --> 02:02:54,400
Speaker 1: twenty two.

2554
02:02:54,440 --> 02:02:58,080
Speaker 12: Yeah, but Harbul was adamant about it has to be

2555
02:02:58,160 --> 02:02:58,720
Speaker 12: head or next.

2556
02:02:58,720 --> 02:03:02,920
Speaker 3: So he's wrong again. Well but I no.

2557
02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:04,960
Speaker 15: He's not wrong, you know, don't. I wouldn't. Let's not

2558
02:03:05,080 --> 02:03:07,160
Speaker 15: go I wouldn't go there. No, I would not say

2559
02:03:07,200 --> 02:03:11,960
Speaker 15: that because if he was again, when coach Robas saying

2560
02:03:11,960 --> 02:03:14,600
Speaker 15: what he's saying at this point, he's more than likely

2561
02:03:14,680 --> 02:03:18,760
Speaker 15: saying something either based on his interpretation of the player

2562
02:03:18,920 --> 02:03:21,040
Speaker 15: or maybe what was said to him on the field.

2563
02:03:21,240 --> 02:03:23,560
Speaker 15: So that may be what they did call. We don't

2564
02:03:23,600 --> 02:03:26,400
Speaker 15: know that, you know, I don't. You don't want to

2565
02:03:26,400 --> 02:03:27,960
Speaker 15: stamp that, you know what I mean? You don't know

2566
02:03:28,360 --> 02:03:31,120
Speaker 15: looking take it? You know how you pull that like

2567
02:03:31,200 --> 02:03:32,960
Speaker 15: one side of your head set off and you give

2568
02:03:33,000 --> 02:03:35,120
Speaker 15: you that confused look like you used to hate when

2569
02:03:35,160 --> 02:03:36,640
Speaker 15: you were a kid, when your parents would look at

2570
02:03:36,720 --> 02:03:39,280
Speaker 15: you like tell me what you guys did again? You know.

2571
02:03:40,040 --> 02:03:43,320
Speaker 15: Whenever someone responded to him at that point. You don't

2572
02:03:43,320 --> 02:03:47,240
Speaker 15: know where that was, so you know, I think he's

2573
02:03:47,520 --> 02:03:50,400
Speaker 15: let's put it this way. Regardless, you would have dissect

2574
02:03:50,440 --> 02:03:52,480
Speaker 15: how he said, whether it's a foul or not, or

2575
02:03:52,480 --> 02:03:56,040
Speaker 15: if he was wrong. He wasn't wrong in my opinion

2576
02:03:56,120 --> 02:03:57,320
Speaker 15: because it wasn't a foul.

2577
02:03:57,760 --> 02:03:59,880
Speaker 3: So however it wasn't a foul.

2578
02:03:59,720 --> 02:04:02,800
Speaker 15: He's right, That's where i'd go, Right, that.

2579
02:04:02,760 --> 02:04:03,400
Speaker 3: Makes a lost sense.

2580
02:04:03,480 --> 02:04:06,480
Speaker 1: Jeans territory and Bronzie by Schneider downs this wanting explaining

2581
02:04:06,880 --> 02:04:09,280
Speaker 1: how the officials did not screw the Ravens.

2582
02:04:09,760 --> 02:04:13,480
Speaker 12: And you know, just as an aside, you mentioned your

2583
02:04:13,560 --> 02:04:16,640
Speaker 12: history with such things. How glad were you to be

2584
02:04:16,800 --> 02:04:19,520
Speaker 12: just breaking it down on CBS and not actually on

2585
02:04:19,560 --> 02:04:23,520
Speaker 12: the field wearing the white hat, speaking to that massive

2586
02:04:23,640 --> 02:04:25,720
Speaker 12: humanity over your little mic.

2587
02:04:25,880 --> 02:04:28,880
Speaker 25: I could tell you, man, I wish I could tell

2588
02:04:28,920 --> 02:04:31,120
Speaker 25: you that it's almost.

2589
02:04:30,720 --> 02:04:33,840
Speaker 15: Harder in this space. At times. I felt like, you know,

2590
02:04:33,880 --> 02:04:35,600
Speaker 15: at least when I was on the field. And I

2591
02:04:35,680 --> 02:04:39,240
Speaker 15: started it with Calvin Johnson's catch, which was ironically Mike

2592
02:04:39,280 --> 02:04:41,000
Speaker 15: Pereira's first game ever as a.

2593
02:04:41,040 --> 02:04:41,880
Speaker 3: Rules in Oh Wow.

2594
02:04:41,960 --> 02:04:45,480
Speaker 15: For the NFL's attempt that was the first game opening

2595
02:04:45,560 --> 02:04:48,520
Speaker 15: day in Chicago with the Lions and the first time

2596
02:04:48,520 --> 02:04:50,800
Speaker 15: that a network really had a rules analyst on it.

2597
02:04:51,440 --> 02:04:54,480
Speaker 15: UH And five years went by and we ended up

2598
02:04:54,480 --> 02:04:57,000
Speaker 15: and saw each other the morning before the Dallas s

2599
02:04:57,000 --> 02:04:59,120
Speaker 15: Green Bay game and one of the two hotels that

2600
02:04:59,160 --> 02:05:00,640
Speaker 15: are available in.

2601
02:05:00,240 --> 02:05:04,080
Speaker 25: Bay they tumbled in the morning having coffee and looked

2602
02:05:04,080 --> 02:05:06,480
Speaker 25: at each other with drowing coffee at five thirty or

2603
02:05:06,520 --> 02:05:08,400
Speaker 25: six in the morning and said, Hey, great to see you.

2604
02:05:08,400 --> 02:05:10,320
Speaker 15: I haven't seen you for five years. Let's not have

2605
02:05:10,360 --> 02:05:13,280
Speaker 15: a Calvin Johnson situation today, laughing, And.

2606
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Speaker 3: It was Des Bryant.

2607
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Speaker 15: And then the Jile irony as my journey went was

2608
02:05:17,880 --> 02:05:20,520
Speaker 15: that Super Bowl fifty two, which was my last game.

2609
02:05:21,680 --> 02:05:24,840
Speaker 15: There were two touchdowns in that game that of Philadelphia

2610
02:05:25,160 --> 02:05:29,000
Speaker 15: ended up and got after review that were both catch plays,

2611
02:05:29,160 --> 02:05:30,960
Speaker 15: and that was Clement in the back of the end

2612
02:05:31,080 --> 02:05:33,440
Speaker 15: zone whether the ball was moving enough to not have

2613
02:05:33,560 --> 02:05:36,120
Speaker 15: control while he was while he was toe tapping on

2614
02:05:36,160 --> 02:05:38,520
Speaker 15: the back of the end zone. And then the zach

2615
02:05:38,640 --> 02:05:42,080
Speaker 15: Ertz play, which really wasn't fully the Jesse James play,

2616
02:05:42,160 --> 02:05:45,680
Speaker 15: but was really close. And I was Mike at the

2617
02:05:45,720 --> 02:05:47,520
Speaker 15: Super Bowl, and I can tell you that at some

2618
02:05:47,680 --> 02:05:50,360
Speaker 15: point before the Lord takes me off of this earth.

2619
02:05:50,440 --> 02:05:53,720
Speaker 15: I would love to hear the playback of the audio

2620
02:05:53,800 --> 02:05:55,840
Speaker 15: that I set out loud on the field in Super

2621
02:05:55,840 --> 02:05:58,720
Speaker 15: Bowl fifty two when I realized that I was getting

2622
02:05:58,720 --> 02:06:01,480
Speaker 15: buzzed for another cat that was going to just Super

2623
02:06:01,520 --> 02:06:04,720
Speaker 15: Bowl fifty two. I kind of do remember what I said.

2624
02:06:04,880 --> 02:06:07,440
Speaker 15: I just don't know if it's really ready for television,

2625
02:06:09,200 --> 02:06:13,320
Speaker 15: But the catch has followed me for two decades here

2626
02:06:13,440 --> 02:06:17,160
Speaker 15: and in yesterday's those are hard plays and listen in

2627
02:06:17,200 --> 02:06:21,160
Speaker 15: this position. Yeah, I have opinions, but and no, I'm

2628
02:06:21,200 --> 02:06:23,040
Speaker 15: never going to get everything right. I never got one

2629
02:06:23,080 --> 02:06:25,600
Speaker 15: hundred and ten percent of every rules tested every clinic

2630
02:06:25,640 --> 02:06:29,080
Speaker 15: in the NFL. But you do understand the magnitude of

2631
02:06:29,120 --> 02:06:31,560
Speaker 15: what you're going to say because this is your role.

2632
02:06:31,760 --> 02:06:34,240
Speaker 15: And you know I say I'm an officiating analyst and

2633
02:06:34,360 --> 02:06:36,880
Speaker 15: not a rules analyst, because I'm not just that classroom

2634
02:06:36,960 --> 02:06:39,800
Speaker 15: person I hope. But when you start to speak about

2635
02:06:39,800 --> 02:06:43,400
Speaker 15: plays like this to the country and hopefully maintain the

2636
02:06:43,440 --> 02:06:48,280
Speaker 15: credibility that you hope you've attained, it's almost more difficult

2637
02:06:48,320 --> 02:06:51,920
Speaker 15: in this space because you know you are now putting

2638
02:06:51,960 --> 02:06:54,920
Speaker 15: out look. No one believes the NCAA when they make

2639
02:06:54,960 --> 02:06:57,080
Speaker 15: a statement from the home office about a play two

2640
02:06:57,120 --> 02:06:59,360
Speaker 15: days later. No one will believe the NFL when they

2641
02:06:59,360 --> 02:07:02,560
Speaker 15: make a statement two days later to do a poll report,

2642
02:07:02,840 --> 02:07:04,960
Speaker 15: because we all have this weird thing like we don't

2643
02:07:05,000 --> 02:07:07,680
Speaker 15: listen to the authorities or a conspiracy who would listen

2644
02:07:07,720 --> 02:07:12,560
Speaker 15: to them. But when people in these positions make statements

2645
02:07:12,680 --> 02:07:15,400
Speaker 15: like that, not that you're ever going to be liked,

2646
02:07:15,440 --> 02:07:17,840
Speaker 15: because I've gotten more hate emails this morning as if

2647
02:07:17,880 --> 02:07:19,320
Speaker 15: I rought the game that I did when I was

2648
02:07:19,360 --> 02:07:23,360
Speaker 15: on the field. You know, you do know that. It's like,

2649
02:07:23,720 --> 02:07:25,280
Speaker 15: you know, I'm going to listen to this guy now

2650
02:07:25,280 --> 02:07:28,480
Speaker 15: because he's actually not the NFL right quote unquote, at

2651
02:07:28,560 --> 02:07:30,280
Speaker 15: least the ones that don't want to put you in

2652
02:07:30,280 --> 02:07:32,680
Speaker 15: that box. So there's a ton of pressure when you

2653
02:07:32,720 --> 02:07:36,080
Speaker 15: do this and you don't you're not The job can't

2654
02:07:36,080 --> 02:07:38,400
Speaker 15: be to match what you think the NFL is doing.

2655
02:07:38,640 --> 02:07:41,120
Speaker 15: You have to voice your opinion a lot of times,

2656
02:07:41,160 --> 02:07:43,760
Speaker 15: and then truthfully, then you have to do what we're

2657
02:07:43,800 --> 02:07:46,360
Speaker 15: doing right now, Look, these are the rules. We didn't

2658
02:07:46,400 --> 02:07:49,800
Speaker 15: write the rules. Now, please try to explain this to

2659
02:07:49,840 --> 02:07:52,160
Speaker 15: me so I can digest this and still like you

2660
02:07:52,200 --> 02:07:55,040
Speaker 15: at the end of the conversation and not think you know,

2661
02:07:55,120 --> 02:07:57,520
Speaker 15: you're this person that's trying to ruin this game I love.

2662
02:07:58,600 --> 02:08:00,920
Speaker 15: So there's a ton of pressure with the one, but

2663
02:08:01,040 --> 02:08:03,360
Speaker 15: a little less baby, because I was sitting in a

2664
02:08:03,440 --> 02:08:06,120
Speaker 15: chair and you know, running for three and a half

2665
02:08:06,200 --> 02:08:09,240
Speaker 15: hours and twenty two degree weather yesterday either So, but

2666
02:08:10,400 --> 02:08:12,440
Speaker 15: a lot of anxiety with some of this stuff, which

2667
02:08:12,480 --> 02:08:14,360
Speaker 15: is why I do it. I mean, let's be honest,

2668
02:08:14,400 --> 02:08:15,880
Speaker 15: you're the best at things like this.

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02:08:16,000 --> 02:08:17,480
Speaker 3: You're the best. Jean h We gotta go.

2670
02:08:17,560 --> 02:08:19,320
Speaker 1: But I do think it was smart of Alex More

2671
02:08:19,360 --> 02:08:21,400
Speaker 1: to pretend his microphone was busted on that one.

2672
02:08:21,600 --> 02:08:26,280
Speaker 15: That was the young rookie has learned a little from me.

2673
02:08:26,360 --> 02:08:27,400
Speaker 3: Just tap on that mic.

2674
02:08:27,720 --> 02:08:29,840
Speaker 15: Look at that guy on the sadline who's got the

2675
02:08:29,880 --> 02:08:32,640
Speaker 15: batteries and the leet like, we're never gonna miss it.

2676
02:08:32,960 --> 02:08:36,480
Speaker 15: And then you say after preak pedal.

2677
02:08:37,920 --> 02:08:40,840
Speaker 25: And then you hit your mic and you're like, Yo,

2678
02:08:41,200 --> 02:08:42,520
Speaker 25: this thing isn't working.

2679
02:08:42,680 --> 02:08:43,760
Speaker 15: What's going on with you?

2680
02:08:43,920 --> 02:08:45,480
Speaker 3: People like are you kidding me?

2681
02:08:46,080 --> 02:08:48,400
Speaker 25: And that poor person on the sideline's going to get

2682
02:08:48,440 --> 02:08:51,040
Speaker 25: fired because he didn't change the nine bolt batteries after

2683
02:08:51,080 --> 02:08:52,360
Speaker 25: the third quarter time off.

2684
02:08:52,720 --> 02:08:53,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta do it.

2685
02:08:54,160 --> 02:08:57,120
Speaker 1: Part of the game boys Jean's staring turned Roger Weischinder

2686
02:08:57,200 --> 02:09:01,240
Speaker 1: downs on BBDY. You know, business challenges are the ones

2687
02:09:01,280 --> 02:09:03,880
Speaker 1: you don't even know you have. Schneider downs helps clients

2688
02:09:03,960 --> 02:09:13,200
Speaker 1: solve those challenges. Snapped in Lamar Jackson rush coming from

2689
02:09:13,200 --> 02:09:14,240
Speaker 1: the backside, He's.

2690
02:09:14,160 --> 02:09:15,520
Speaker 3: Hit your take it down.

2691
02:09:15,960 --> 02:09:19,760
Speaker 2: It's Heismith with the sack back at the thirty eight

2692
02:09:19,880 --> 02:09:22,240
Speaker 2: yard line, and that will do it.

2693
02:09:22,880 --> 02:09:26,440
Speaker 1: The Steelers come to m and T Bank Stadium and

2694
02:09:26,600 --> 02:09:30,080
Speaker 1: win twenty seven to twenty two, and they are back

2695
02:09:30,280 --> 02:09:34,400
Speaker 1: in first place by themselves in the AFC. Nor the

2696
02:09:34,440 --> 02:09:36,919
Speaker 1: author of that play call here on the Steelers Audio

2697
02:09:37,000 --> 02:09:40,520
Speaker 1: Network on the flagship TVE. Joining us now Rob King

2698
02:09:40,640 --> 02:09:43,040
Speaker 1: for a power hour of Steeler Talk. This first half

2699
02:09:43,120 --> 02:09:45,080
Speaker 1: hour brought to you by Ford, your neighborhood Ford Store.

2700
02:09:45,080 --> 02:09:47,560
Speaker 1: The F one fifty is the official truck of the

2701
02:09:47,560 --> 02:09:55,520
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers and Kinger. Who what a classic Baltimore Pittsburgh

2702
02:09:55,600 --> 02:09:58,880
Speaker 1: matchup that was yesterday. It had all of the elements

2703
02:09:59,000 --> 02:10:01,120
Speaker 1: that we've become a customer in this one. It ain't

2704
02:10:01,120 --> 02:10:03,920
Speaker 1: over till it's over. It goes down to the last play.

2705
02:10:04,040 --> 02:10:07,240
Speaker 1: There's always a controversial play in there somewhere. Mark Andrews

2706
02:10:07,280 --> 02:10:10,040
Speaker 1: screws up on fourth down, but yeah, he didn't know

2707
02:10:10,080 --> 02:10:13,000
Speaker 1: he screwed up. I don't think, you know, because he

2708
02:10:13,040 --> 02:10:16,360
Speaker 1: had DeAndre Hopkins just sitting there behind him for a touchdown,

2709
02:10:16,400 --> 02:10:18,600
Speaker 1: but you know, looked like it was thrown to him.

2710
02:10:18,640 --> 02:10:20,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Lamar's gonna put a little more air on

2711
02:10:20,640 --> 02:10:24,400
Speaker 1: that baby probably gets there, although Joey Porter was closing.

2712
02:10:26,080 --> 02:10:28,160
Speaker 3: But still yeah, but Harbaugh being.

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02:10:28,000 --> 02:10:31,120
Speaker 1: Pissed and Tomlin walking off the field of Victor in Baltimore.

2714
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Speaker 3: I love to see all of that.

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02:10:33,560 --> 02:10:36,880
Speaker 1: What I really liked about it it was a response to,

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Speaker 1: as we keep categorizing it, a very tumultuous week in

2717
02:10:43,200 --> 02:10:46,640
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh for Mike Tomlin and the defense especially, and the offense,

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02:10:46,640 --> 02:10:47,320
Speaker 1: I mean really just.

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Speaker 3: The whole team, and all three of those.

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02:10:51,080 --> 02:10:55,360
Speaker 1: Things seemed to bounce back nicely against their division rivalry,

2721
02:10:55,520 --> 02:11:00,280
Speaker 1: rivalry rival in Baltimore. The defense seemed really well coached up,

2722
02:11:00,880 --> 02:11:04,400
Speaker 1: offense took shots right away, and you know, I disagree

2723
02:11:04,440 --> 02:11:06,840
Speaker 1: with the way that Tomlin ran the fourth quarter. I

2724
02:11:06,880 --> 02:11:08,320
Speaker 1: would have liked to see them be a little more

2725
02:11:08,360 --> 02:11:11,320
Speaker 1: aggressive there, but you can't argue with the final product,

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02:11:11,640 --> 02:11:17,600
Speaker 1: right They won, and you know, the the Uh. The

2727
02:11:17,720 --> 02:11:20,720
Speaker 1: fact is that they had four games that were similar

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02:11:20,720 --> 02:11:26,560
Speaker 1: to this one coming out of the half, Seattle, Green Bay, Buffalo, Chicago, in.

2729
02:11:26,600 --> 02:11:30,400
Speaker 3: Which they had the lead and had the ball. And

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02:11:30,600 --> 02:11:33,440
Speaker 3: think about that. There's seven and six right now.

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02:11:33,600 --> 02:11:36,440
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm throwing out the game against Cincinnati

2732
02:11:36,480 --> 02:11:38,160
Speaker 1: in which you got a late lead. You got the

2733
02:11:38,240 --> 02:11:39,600
Speaker 1: lead with two and a half minutes. If you had

2734
02:11:39,600 --> 02:11:42,520
Speaker 1: the lead finally in that game, aren't you supposed to

2735
02:11:42,520 --> 02:11:44,120
Speaker 1: win a couple of those games?

2736
02:11:44,400 --> 02:11:46,880
Speaker 3: That's that's how you draw it up. Hey, let's have

2737
02:11:46,960 --> 02:11:47,400
Speaker 3: the lead.

2738
02:11:47,760 --> 02:11:49,800
Speaker 1: They get the ball first, but we had the lead

2739
02:11:49,800 --> 02:11:52,120
Speaker 1: at halftime, and then we get the ball to begin

2740
02:11:52,160 --> 02:11:52,880
Speaker 1: the second half.

2741
02:11:53,200 --> 02:11:55,440
Speaker 3: That's that's what you want as a team and as

2742
02:11:55,440 --> 02:11:55,840
Speaker 3: a coach.

2743
02:11:56,640 --> 02:12:00,160
Speaker 1: Shouldn't you win a couple of those games? Chicago? Green Bay?

2744
02:12:00,200 --> 02:12:03,080
Speaker 1: Green Bay were up by nine. Well, that's another thing

2745
02:12:03,120 --> 02:12:07,400
Speaker 1: I liked about yesterday is winning the coin toss, deferring

2746
02:12:07,800 --> 02:12:10,880
Speaker 1: and then knowing that the onus is on you to

2747
02:12:11,160 --> 02:12:14,080
Speaker 1: come out better than you have been so far this year.

2748
02:12:14,160 --> 02:12:17,200
Speaker 3: And they scored twice in the third quarter. Yeah, yeah,

2749
02:12:17,240 --> 02:12:18,760
Speaker 3: So that's exactly right.

2750
02:12:19,320 --> 02:12:22,160
Speaker 1: And you know, one of the things that I was

2751
02:12:22,200 --> 02:12:24,160
Speaker 1: wondering about this week and talking of with Max on

2752
02:12:24,200 --> 02:12:27,080
Speaker 1: our radio show, is that is it possible because neither

2753
02:12:27,240 --> 02:12:31,200
Speaker 1: team both teams had had shown elements right of being good,

2754
02:12:31,400 --> 02:12:35,560
Speaker 1: but neither team had consistently displayed those elements. Like there's

2755
02:12:35,600 --> 02:12:38,720
Speaker 1: been times in which the students threw the ball over

2756
02:12:38,760 --> 02:12:40,480
Speaker 1: the field. There's times in which they've ran the ball

2757
02:12:40,520 --> 02:12:42,680
Speaker 1: over the field. There's times in which they've stopped the run,

2758
02:12:42,720 --> 02:12:45,280
Speaker 1: there's times in which they've been run upon. They hasn't

2759
02:12:45,440 --> 02:12:50,600
Speaker 1: felt complete. The statistics are very very strange, or at

2760
02:12:50,640 --> 02:12:52,920
Speaker 1: the bottom of the league in some categories, the top

2761
02:12:52,920 --> 02:12:54,840
Speaker 1: of the league and the others. It's not like this

2762
02:12:55,000 --> 02:12:58,240
Speaker 1: was a six and sixteen that was mediocre against the run,

2763
02:12:58,920 --> 02:13:01,320
Speaker 1: mediocre against the path, mediocre throwing the ball.

2764
02:13:01,480 --> 02:13:01,960
Speaker 3: No, they were.

2765
02:13:02,320 --> 02:13:05,800
Speaker 1: They were elite in some categories and at the bottom.

2766
02:13:05,920 --> 02:13:08,680
Speaker 1: It's it's it's been a mystifying season. So to be

2767
02:13:08,680 --> 02:13:12,480
Speaker 1: able to come out and do that and maybe use

2768
02:13:12,560 --> 02:13:15,800
Speaker 1: that as a little bit of a spark to to

2769
02:13:15,960 --> 02:13:19,240
Speaker 1: play more consistently down the stretch. I mean, you tell

2770
02:13:19,240 --> 02:13:22,000
Speaker 1: me who the super team is in the AFC, I

2771
02:13:22,040 --> 02:13:26,640
Speaker 1: have no idea. Or the NFL Broncos maybe one ten

2772
02:13:26,720 --> 02:13:28,720
Speaker 1: in a row, yeah, Or the Patriots. The team and

2773
02:13:28,880 --> 02:13:32,240
Speaker 1: Steers went up to Foxborough beat right thanks to five turnovers, right,

2774
02:13:32,280 --> 02:13:33,200
Speaker 1: but you still beat him, right?

2775
02:13:33,240 --> 02:13:34,400
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2776
02:13:34,640 --> 02:13:34,960
Speaker 14: All right.

2777
02:13:35,080 --> 02:13:35,960
Speaker 3: So one thing.

2778
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Speaker 1: We've not talked a lot about today was the attrition

2779
02:13:38,680 --> 02:13:43,000
Speaker 1: of this one O three concussions, right, Yeah, Eckles was

2780
02:13:43,080 --> 02:13:48,160
Speaker 1: checked out for one, and you really saw what the

2781
02:13:48,200 --> 02:13:52,120
Speaker 1: scope of the offense is when Darnell Washington went out,

2782
02:13:52,200 --> 02:13:54,640
Speaker 1: and what it is without him seems much more narrow.

2783
02:13:55,160 --> 02:13:57,080
Speaker 1: Really had a hard time running the ball without mount

2784
02:13:57,240 --> 02:13:59,880
Speaker 1: Washam yeah in there. Yeah, and they tried it'spener and

2785
02:14:00,240 --> 02:14:01,600
Speaker 1: seemed to be out there a lot. I haven't seen

2786
02:14:01,600 --> 02:14:04,560
Speaker 1: the snap counts yet, but he was, you know, trying

2787
02:14:04,560 --> 02:14:07,120
Speaker 1: to get the running game going, you know, it was

2788
02:14:07,400 --> 02:14:09,760
Speaker 1: I thought. One of the other things about this game

2789
02:14:10,840 --> 02:14:14,720
Speaker 1: was that, you know, Aaron Rodgers has been criticized and

2790
02:14:14,800 --> 02:14:18,320
Speaker 1: there was an article written about how you know after

2791
02:14:18,360 --> 02:14:20,880
Speaker 1: this loss against Buffalo when, of course the team is

2792
02:14:20,880 --> 02:14:21,640
Speaker 1: that it's natter.

2793
02:14:21,840 --> 02:14:22,000
Speaker 15: Now.

2794
02:14:22,040 --> 02:14:24,200
Speaker 1: I hope we can say that if it wasn't the

2795
02:14:24,280 --> 02:14:27,880
Speaker 1: Chargers game, and you know, he's old that he doesn't

2796
02:14:27,880 --> 02:14:29,920
Speaker 1: have it anymore. And I'm thinking, I'm reading that article,

2797
02:14:29,920 --> 02:14:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I understand what you're saying in the

2798
02:14:31,600 --> 02:14:33,640
Speaker 1: last couple of games he hasn't been as sharp, and

2799
02:14:33,680 --> 02:14:36,920
Speaker 1: of course against Buffalo, he's playing with the fractured wrist,

2800
02:14:37,080 --> 02:14:40,880
Speaker 1: but he hasn't looked as sharp. But there there have

2801
02:14:40,880 --> 02:14:44,000
Speaker 1: been moments this year where he's looked phenomenal. I mean

2802
02:14:44,120 --> 02:14:49,960
Speaker 1: phenomena that he looked phenomenal yesterday. I thought he played great,

2803
02:14:50,080 --> 02:14:53,600
Speaker 1: even in the fourth quarter, but I mean having a

2804
02:14:53,640 --> 02:14:56,080
Speaker 1: duck it underneath a Mike Green sack, alling out and

2805
02:14:56,120 --> 02:14:58,920
Speaker 1: throwing one that that that I thought Calvin caught, and

2806
02:14:59,000 --> 02:15:01,880
Speaker 1: I think that was the play where Alvin h called

2807
02:15:02,920 --> 02:15:05,000
Speaker 1: and that was you know, look, they they didn't have

2808
02:15:05,040 --> 02:15:07,080
Speaker 1: the right personnel out there to snap the ball quickly

2809
02:15:07,400 --> 02:15:10,080
Speaker 1: and had that annoyed Aaron Rightley, so right, just the

2810
02:15:10,200 --> 02:15:13,800
Speaker 1: fact that he played the way he did, the fact

2811
02:15:13,880 --> 02:15:15,919
Speaker 1: that I think on the air I called it a bootleg,

2812
02:15:15,960 --> 02:15:18,040
Speaker 1: but it really wasn't his touchdown run. He went back

2813
02:15:18,280 --> 02:15:19,600
Speaker 1: and he just looked and there was nobody in the

2814
02:15:19,640 --> 02:15:22,560
Speaker 1: left e R John who fell down. Yeah okay, so yeah,

2815
02:15:22,720 --> 02:15:25,320
Speaker 1: John fell down and he was just looked and took off,

2816
02:15:25,360 --> 02:15:27,360
Speaker 1: took off and ran I thought he looked more agile

2817
02:15:27,440 --> 02:15:29,240
Speaker 1: yesterday than he has in the last three weeks, like

2818
02:15:29,280 --> 02:15:31,640
Speaker 1: I think that the criticism of him was fair. In

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Speaker 1: the last few weeks, I thought he was hearing the

2820
02:15:33,360 --> 02:15:35,560
Speaker 1: footsteps a lot, he was getting rid of the ball,

2821
02:15:35,600 --> 02:15:37,800
Speaker 1: and he was stepping up into the pocket and kind

2822
02:15:37,840 --> 02:15:43,280
Speaker 1: of getting a little nervous. Things that we expect that

2823
02:15:43,320 --> 02:15:45,920
Speaker 1: he can handle. It seemed like all the sudden he

2824
02:15:46,040 --> 02:15:48,600
Speaker 1: was at times trying to do too much allow Russell

2825
02:15:48,600 --> 02:15:50,880
Speaker 1: Wilson an other times scared that he was about to

2826
02:15:50,920 --> 02:15:53,440
Speaker 1: get crushed, and he felt it looked like he felt

2827
02:15:53,520 --> 02:15:54,880
Speaker 1: much more comfortable yesterday.

2828
02:15:55,280 --> 02:15:57,240
Speaker 3: And I'm wondering how much.

2829
02:15:57,160 --> 02:15:58,560
Speaker 1: Of that had to do with having an MVS and

2830
02:15:58,600 --> 02:16:00,880
Speaker 1: Adam feeling in they're running round and drawn some attention

2831
02:16:00,960 --> 02:16:03,480
Speaker 1: away from guys. I don't know, I don't. I don't

2832
02:16:03,520 --> 02:16:05,080
Speaker 1: know if that was a factory. I don't think either.

2833
02:16:05,400 --> 02:16:07,080
Speaker 1: Neither one of them had a catch, did they didn't

2834
02:16:07,080 --> 02:16:14,240
Speaker 1: matter feeling had NVS had one or one target make

2835
02:16:14,280 --> 02:16:14,560
Speaker 1: the catch?

2836
02:16:14,640 --> 02:16:14,840
Speaker 15: Yeah?

2837
02:16:14,880 --> 02:16:18,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, was it who had to catch Fling had one catch?

2838
02:16:18,120 --> 02:16:21,280
Speaker 3: I think something I don't I don't, I don't remember,

2839
02:16:21,400 --> 02:16:22,040
Speaker 3: but I think he.

2840
02:16:22,080 --> 02:16:24,040
Speaker 1: Was feeling his oats a little bit, knowing he could

2841
02:16:24,080 --> 02:16:25,080
Speaker 1: get the ball to DK.

2842
02:16:25,720 --> 02:16:28,720
Speaker 19: I thought it was because I watched something on ESPN

2843
02:16:28,720 --> 02:16:30,560
Speaker 19: that were Hasselbeck was saying that the Ravens did not

2844
02:16:30,640 --> 02:16:32,200
Speaker 19: bring pressure. So I don't know if they were dropping

2845
02:16:32,320 --> 02:16:34,800
Speaker 19: back into coverage and hoping that that that we can

2846
02:16:34,840 --> 02:16:36,600
Speaker 19: cover these receivers and we're gonna make picks or.

2847
02:16:36,600 --> 02:16:37,039
Speaker 3: Anything like that.

2848
02:16:37,080 --> 02:16:38,760
Speaker 19: I think some of the reasons that the that the

2849
02:16:38,800 --> 02:16:41,040
Speaker 19: offensive line and pass protection looked so good is because

2850
02:16:41,040 --> 02:16:41,360
Speaker 19: they weren't.

2851
02:16:41,400 --> 02:16:43,360
Speaker 1: I don't think they were blitzing a lot. They weren't

2852
02:16:43,360 --> 02:16:45,800
Speaker 1: bringing up the heat. Well, they certainly weren't at full strength.

2853
02:16:45,840 --> 02:16:47,680
Speaker 1: I mean with Proderck Jones being on the I R

2854
02:16:47,800 --> 02:16:50,840
Speaker 1: and then you had lose and Pete to uh Dylan

2855
02:16:51,000 --> 02:16:52,400
Speaker 1: Cook who.

2856
02:16:52,400 --> 02:16:54,000
Speaker 3: You know, with a little bit of help didn't do

2857
02:16:54,080 --> 02:16:57,720
Speaker 3: so bad, but he did. He only took one hit

2858
02:16:57,800 --> 02:16:59,040
Speaker 3: yesterday and didn't get sacked.

2859
02:16:59,720 --> 02:17:02,680
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you wonder why Harba didn't dial up a

2860
02:17:02,720 --> 02:17:05,240
Speaker 1: little bit more pressure there. So to me, I mean,

2861
02:17:05,240 --> 02:17:08,760
Speaker 1: if you're looking like I remember talking to people after

2862
02:17:08,840 --> 02:17:10,720
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati game, because I was talking to people in

2863
02:17:10,760 --> 02:17:14,440
Speaker 1: Cincinnati wondering why there weren't remember the Steelers going to

2864
02:17:14,480 --> 02:17:16,560
Speaker 1: that game four and one before the game, was like,

2865
02:17:16,600 --> 02:17:19,720
Speaker 1: why aren't more people picking the Steelers to be better

2866
02:17:19,720 --> 02:17:20,840
Speaker 1: because I thought they were going to be a better

2867
02:17:20,879 --> 02:17:22,200
Speaker 1: team than they were a year ago. I thought they

2868
02:17:22,240 --> 02:17:25,120
Speaker 1: were ten and seven a year ago. Thought they'd upgraded

2869
02:17:25,160 --> 02:17:27,640
Speaker 1: a quarterback. You had three draft choices last year who

2870
02:17:27,640 --> 02:17:30,680
Speaker 1: basically didn't play, including your first round pick. Another draft

2871
02:17:30,680 --> 02:17:33,400
Speaker 1: class you traded for DK Metcalf, you trade for Jalen Ramsey.

2872
02:17:34,120 --> 02:17:37,560
Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, this team should be better. And I

2873
02:17:37,600 --> 02:17:41,279
Speaker 1: think some of the perception was, well, where's Aaron Rodgers?

2874
02:17:41,280 --> 02:17:43,440
Speaker 1: And then after the game in Cincinnati, I thought, how

2875
02:17:43,440 --> 02:17:48,400
Speaker 1: could anybody? I mean, he he looked phenomenal against Cincinnati, phenomenal.

2876
02:17:48,959 --> 02:17:50,959
Speaker 1: And then there's been some ups and downs. I thought,

2877
02:17:51,120 --> 02:17:53,280
Speaker 1: my biggest takeaway from yesterday one of them. I guess,

2878
02:17:53,280 --> 02:17:55,520
Speaker 1: you know, winning the game is number one. I just

2879
02:17:55,560 --> 02:17:57,959
Speaker 1: thought he looked great. I just thought, if you have

2880
02:17:58,160 --> 02:18:01,120
Speaker 1: faith that the Steelers can do something in the into playoffs,

2881
02:18:01,240 --> 02:18:03,480
Speaker 1: that's what It's the most important position in sports.

2882
02:18:03,959 --> 02:18:06,800
Speaker 3: And he looked I just thought he looked great, absolutely great.

2883
02:18:06,800 --> 02:18:09,520
Speaker 1: The only times he didn't is when he was under dress,

2884
02:18:10,320 --> 02:18:13,520
Speaker 1: which I mean, look, you know by that barometer, Lamar

2885
02:18:13,720 --> 02:18:16,080
Speaker 1: was garbage when they were getting to him.

2886
02:18:16,080 --> 02:18:17,560
Speaker 3: You know, he escaped a couple of times.

2887
02:18:17,840 --> 02:18:21,560
Speaker 1: They could not bring Lamar Jackson down much as they tried,

2888
02:18:22,000 --> 02:18:25,200
Speaker 1: but it really disrupted the offense nineteen to thirty five

2889
02:18:25,240 --> 02:18:25,640
Speaker 1: for him.

2890
02:18:26,040 --> 02:18:27,320
Speaker 3: But I agree with you on Rogers.

2891
02:18:27,440 --> 02:18:31,280
Speaker 1: It looked like he was one week more healed with

2892
02:18:31,320 --> 02:18:32,800
Speaker 1: that risk too, And I know that he said he

2893
02:18:32,840 --> 02:18:35,600
Speaker 1: called an audible the day before and went rogue and

2894
02:18:35,680 --> 02:18:38,039
Speaker 1: had them recast it with a softer cast so he

2895
02:18:38,120 --> 02:18:41,800
Speaker 1: was able to go under center more often. Although he's

2896
02:18:41,840 --> 02:18:46,160
Speaker 1: got you know, he's got a tremendous pain tolerance, like

2897
02:18:46,280 --> 02:18:47,119
Speaker 1: you know that dude.

2898
02:18:47,200 --> 02:18:48,560
Speaker 3: He's he's tough.

2899
02:18:48,720 --> 02:18:51,360
Speaker 1: You know, he's not only not only gifted, not only

2900
02:18:51,640 --> 02:18:55,119
Speaker 1: in his prime. That the best throw over of football

2901
02:18:55,120 --> 02:18:56,959
Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life. And by the way,

2902
02:18:57,560 --> 02:18:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, when you think about like the throw at

2903
02:18:59,080 --> 02:19:01,720
Speaker 1: the end of the Cincinnati game, like traveled seventy yards

2904
02:19:01,720 --> 02:19:03,840
Speaker 1: in the air. He made it throw to Pat Fryarmouth

2905
02:19:04,000 --> 02:19:06,000
Speaker 1: which Pat didn't catch against Seattle.

2906
02:19:06,520 --> 02:19:08,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's the best throw I've.

2907
02:19:07,920 --> 02:19:10,240
Speaker 1: Seen all year by any by any quarterback off the

2908
02:19:10,360 --> 02:19:12,800
Speaker 1: right side where he just, oh my goodness, rolling right

2909
02:19:12,920 --> 02:19:15,800
Speaker 1: and dropping it in a bucket sixty yards downfield. He

2910
02:19:15,879 --> 02:19:17,200
Speaker 1: fell down when he threw it because he had to

2911
02:19:17,200 --> 02:19:19,680
Speaker 1: put everything behind it and had to have it land.

2912
02:19:20,040 --> 02:19:23,360
Speaker 1: It was right on target with Pat Pat. A guy

2913
02:19:23,440 --> 02:19:24,680
Speaker 1: like that put Pat.

2914
02:19:24,440 --> 02:19:26,240
Speaker 3: In the doghouse and he never got out of it.

2915
02:19:26,280 --> 02:19:27,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if that was

2916
02:19:27,720 --> 02:19:31,720
Speaker 1: the case, but I my point on Rogers is the

2917
02:19:31,920 --> 02:19:35,160
Speaker 1: arm talent is still significant and there's still a lot

2918
02:19:35,200 --> 02:19:36,200
Speaker 1: of athleticism there.

2919
02:19:36,840 --> 02:19:37,200
Speaker 15: It was.

2920
02:19:37,280 --> 02:19:39,840
Speaker 1: It didn't look like it against the Chargers, and it

2921
02:19:39,879 --> 02:19:42,320
Speaker 1: didn't look like it against the Bills, but it looked

2922
02:19:42,360 --> 02:19:44,879
Speaker 1: It's looked like it, and it didn't look like it

2923
02:19:44,920 --> 02:19:46,880
Speaker 1: against the Jets. After the game today, my back was

2924
02:19:46,959 --> 02:19:48,760
Speaker 1: kind of bothered me. But it's looked like it in

2925
02:19:48,840 --> 02:19:51,560
Speaker 1: other in other games, and it certainly looked like yesterday.

2926
02:19:51,840 --> 02:19:52,320
Speaker 3: No question.

2927
02:19:52,360 --> 02:19:55,000
Speaker 1: Steelers with a twenty seven to twenty two victory over

2928
02:19:55,240 --> 02:19:57,800
Speaker 1: the Ravens in Baltimore. They set it top the AFC

2929
02:19:57,920 --> 02:20:03,360
Speaker 1: North Now and uh, the questions about Mike Tomlin's tenure here,

2930
02:20:03,480 --> 02:20:05,880
Speaker 1: I think quiet down for a while, much to the

2931
02:20:05,959 --> 02:20:08,680
Speaker 1: chagrin of those who were hoping that this was finally

2932
02:20:08,879 --> 02:20:11,760
Speaker 1: the right amount of town on a rail moment. Doesn't

2933
02:20:11,840 --> 02:20:13,840
Speaker 1: look like that's going to be the case. Is Tomlin

2934
02:20:13,879 --> 02:20:15,680
Speaker 1: blows a kiss to the camera on his way off

2935
02:20:15,720 --> 02:20:18,240
Speaker 1: the field, which had to piss off Ravens fans even more.

2936
02:20:18,560 --> 02:20:21,039
Speaker 1: If there's nothing else to glean from this, Jeff, it's

2937
02:20:21,080 --> 02:20:23,840
Speaker 1: that we as Steeler fans to just enjoy how much

2938
02:20:23,879 --> 02:20:25,280
Speaker 1: this pisses off Ravens fans.

2939
02:20:25,400 --> 02:20:29,520
Speaker 19: Yes, just be quiet and enjoy the tears of those

2940
02:20:29,560 --> 02:20:30,119
Speaker 19: who you hate.

2941
02:20:30,280 --> 02:20:34,320
Speaker 3: Yes, that's really the lesson here. That's the holiday spirit. Yes,

2942
02:20:34,640 --> 02:20:35,680
Speaker 3: that's the holiday spirit.

2943
02:20:35,720 --> 02:20:38,480
Speaker 1: And you know, the Ravens and I believe the Bills

2944
02:20:38,520 --> 02:20:43,160
Speaker 1: both had ten days rest before the Steelers, and Matt Williamson,

2945
02:20:43,440 --> 02:20:45,959
Speaker 1: who is so great on stats like that, just it

2946
02:20:46,040 --> 02:20:49,680
Speaker 1: is an enormous advantage, enormous advantage for the team of

2947
02:20:49,680 --> 02:20:50,320
Speaker 1: the extra rest.

2948
02:20:50,480 --> 02:20:52,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what we could.

2949
02:20:51,959 --> 02:20:54,800
Speaker 19: Use a bye week? Yeah, another bye week. With all

2950
02:20:54,840 --> 02:20:55,760
Speaker 19: the people we have out.

2951
02:20:55,760 --> 02:21:00,680
Speaker 1: You're geting to buy some extra day by day, all right,

2952
02:21:00,760 --> 02:21:02,879
Speaker 1: Michaeill join us here as we continue on with the

2953
02:21:02,920 --> 02:21:05,440
Speaker 1: Power Hour of Steeler Talk with Rob Kitting, Voice of.

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02:21:05,360 --> 02:21:07,920
Speaker 3: The Steelers on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 3: you guys are talking to hell I am not coming

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Speaker 3: down on you for that.

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Speaker 1: Me and Kingger were, you know, in a very intense

2967
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Speaker 1: conversation and you and Jeff Woar as well.

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Speaker 3: And that's that's good.

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Speaker 3: And we were talking about Stevie rayvaugh What were you

2979
02:22:16,840 --> 02:22:17,320
Speaker 3: talking about?

2980
02:22:17,400 --> 02:22:19,320
Speaker 5: We were talking about concerts as well. But we were

2981
02:22:19,320 --> 02:22:21,320
Speaker 5: talking about concert t shirts and we.

2982
02:22:21,200 --> 02:22:23,640
Speaker 19: Were basically saying, have you ever seen a band that

2983
02:22:23,800 --> 02:22:27,800
Speaker 19: then that opened for someone that then became something of note.

2984
02:22:27,840 --> 02:22:30,160
Speaker 3: I saw bon Jovie open for Rat and nobody knew

2985
02:22:30,160 --> 02:22:30,640
Speaker 3: who Bunjo.

2986
02:22:31,000 --> 02:22:32,039
Speaker 6: Really, that's pretty good.

2987
02:22:32,120 --> 02:22:33,879
Speaker 3: I just saw them the story about Stevie Rayvon are

2988
02:22:33,879 --> 02:22:34,960
Speaker 3: opening for the band. Yeah.

2989
02:22:35,040 --> 02:22:35,200
Speaker 15: Right.

2990
02:22:35,280 --> 02:22:37,000
Speaker 1: And as far as a concert T shirt, I saw

2991
02:22:37,040 --> 02:22:40,040
Speaker 1: The Grateful Dead in uh in Kansas way back in

2992
02:22:40,080 --> 02:22:42,360
Speaker 1: the day and I had it. It was the song

2993
02:22:42,480 --> 02:22:45,600
Speaker 1: loose Lucy. Yeah it was. I'm so bummed I don't

2994
02:22:45,600 --> 02:22:50,240
Speaker 1: have this T shirt. It was Lucy and Woodstock and

2995
02:22:50,240 --> 02:22:52,360
Speaker 1: everybody dancing on the front of it, and of course

2996
02:22:52,360 --> 02:22:54,360
Speaker 1: the contentates in the back and in the bottom it

2997
02:22:54,400 --> 02:22:55,199
Speaker 1: said thank.

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02:22:55,040 --> 02:22:58,959
Speaker 3: You for real good And I wish that was like

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Speaker 3: I have an old Ocean Pace T shirt. I haven't

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02:23:03,280 --> 02:23:05,560
Speaker 3: thrown it away, you know, but that I wish I

3001
02:23:05,560 --> 02:23:07,360
Speaker 3: had that T shirt. Man, I really wish I had

3002
02:23:07,360 --> 02:23:07,800
Speaker 3: a T shirt.

3003
02:23:07,879 --> 02:23:11,160
Speaker 1: Well, Mike Isaiah likely was loose loosey with Tuck yesterday

3004
02:23:11,280 --> 02:23:13,800
Speaker 1: and couldn't bring the ball in And that's not a

3005
02:23:13,800 --> 02:23:14,680
Speaker 1: football movie.

3006
02:23:14,760 --> 02:23:17,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, he loves dropping the ball in the end. Ze

3007
02:23:18,000 --> 02:23:23,720
Speaker 3: what sway, that was a great segue. I agree that. Well,

3008
02:23:23,760 --> 02:23:25,480
Speaker 3: I did one thing right today. I've been able to

3009
02:23:25,480 --> 02:23:26,720
Speaker 3: talk for three and a half hours.

3010
02:23:27,120 --> 02:23:30,240
Speaker 12: Sports Star brought to you by Bridgeville Plants. I thought

3011
02:23:30,360 --> 02:23:34,760
Speaker 12: Jane was outstanding as he was yesterday. That what he does,

3012
02:23:35,400 --> 02:23:38,840
Speaker 12: how quickly he has to turn around watching multiple games

3013
02:23:38,840 --> 02:23:42,360
Speaker 12: at once and getting about thirty seconds. Yeah, they tell hey,

3014
02:23:42,400 --> 02:23:44,280
Speaker 12: we need your opinion on this, and then he has

3015
02:23:44,320 --> 02:23:47,360
Speaker 12: to just come on and make it make sense, and

3016
02:23:47,680 --> 02:23:51,039
Speaker 12: I think he did. Two calls were correct, one was incorrect.

3017
02:23:51,959 --> 02:23:55,560
Speaker 1: It does always impress me how quickly he can apply

3018
02:23:55,760 --> 02:23:59,200
Speaker 1: the rule to the judgment on the field and determine

3019
02:23:59,520 --> 02:24:01,959
Speaker 1: in that quick amount of time because they don't have

3020
02:24:02,040 --> 02:24:05,320
Speaker 1: a lot of space for him to extemporize. And he

3021
02:24:05,480 --> 02:24:07,280
Speaker 1: bank bank Bank, Bank, Bank tells you why, Here's why

3022
02:24:07,280 --> 02:24:08,440
Speaker 1: I think they got it right. Here's why I think

3023
02:24:08,440 --> 02:24:10,080
Speaker 1: they got it wrong because this is the rule and

3024
02:24:10,120 --> 02:24:13,080
Speaker 1: that didn't meet the measure of being a foul.

3025
02:24:13,120 --> 02:24:16,880
Speaker 19: And to dumb it down for the frothing unwashed masses

3026
02:24:17,320 --> 02:24:20,080
Speaker 19: is also a critical part of his credibility.

3027
02:24:20,280 --> 02:24:22,480
Speaker 3: Uses many of us.

3028
02:24:22,360 --> 02:24:24,160
Speaker 12: Just don't want to hear it. Now they have their

3029
02:24:24,200 --> 02:24:28,720
Speaker 12: opinion and that's that, and you know a lot of

3030
02:24:28,760 --> 02:24:31,680
Speaker 12: stuff went according to plan in that Steelers twenty seven

3031
02:24:31,680 --> 02:24:34,080
Speaker 12: to twenty two victory over the Ravens yesterday. Yeah, the

3032
02:24:34,120 --> 02:24:37,640
Speaker 12: calls were critical, they always are, but uh what some

3033
02:24:37,760 --> 02:24:40,400
Speaker 12: of the things we had emphasized going into the game.

3034
02:24:41,080 --> 02:24:42,680
Speaker 12: Number one was they got to get back to taking

3035
02:24:42,720 --> 02:24:43,800
Speaker 12: one on one shots.

3036
02:24:43,520 --> 02:24:45,119
Speaker 3: Down the field. They did that right away.

3037
02:24:45,360 --> 02:24:48,360
Speaker 12: Check and if you've got Roger now, obviously if he's

3038
02:24:48,440 --> 02:24:50,800
Speaker 12: under center, he wasn't under center a ton and it

3039
02:24:50,879 --> 02:24:53,200
Speaker 12: didn't run the ball well when he was under center anyway,

3040
02:24:53,240 --> 02:24:54,640
Speaker 12: so it didn't impact the game that way.

3041
02:24:54,680 --> 02:24:57,080
Speaker 1: But clearly that tells you he's feeling a lot. By

3042
02:24:57,080 --> 02:24:59,120
Speaker 1: the way, was that truly a single coverage shot there?

3043
02:24:59,160 --> 02:25:01,440
Speaker 1: Because it looked like he had twelve's trying to do

3044
02:25:01,480 --> 02:25:05,680
Speaker 1: the double team it's a singles job. Yeah, okay, you know, uh,

3045
02:25:05,720 --> 02:25:06,640
Speaker 1: he's not good at it.

3046
02:25:06,680 --> 02:25:09,920
Speaker 12: They Baltimore made such a big deal out of when

3047
02:25:09,920 --> 02:25:14,440
Speaker 12: they traded for a Lohi Gilman. Uh that allowed them

3048
02:25:14,440 --> 02:25:17,040
Speaker 12: to move Kyle Hamilton down into the box and play

3049
02:25:17,120 --> 02:25:20,920
Speaker 12: different positions and be more impactful. But you take the

3050
02:25:20,959 --> 02:25:23,160
Speaker 12: guy out of center field who's a good center fielder,

3051
02:25:23,400 --> 02:25:25,800
Speaker 12: now you don't have a good center fielder or a

3052
02:25:25,800 --> 02:25:28,320
Speaker 12: good half center fielder if they're in cover two. So

3053
02:25:28,520 --> 02:25:31,040
Speaker 12: that's where you got it right. They're they're they're clearly

3054
02:25:31,200 --> 02:25:34,320
Speaker 12: moving Hamilton because they want him to do a So

3055
02:25:34,400 --> 02:25:37,240
Speaker 12: you attack the guy who's doing b And did you

3056
02:25:37,280 --> 02:25:39,280
Speaker 12: hear Kyle Hamilton's name called yesterday?

3057
02:25:39,480 --> 02:25:39,920
Speaker 3: I did not.

3058
02:25:40,200 --> 02:25:43,360
Speaker 12: And he's a great player, he is their best defender.

3059
02:25:43,879 --> 02:25:47,560
Speaker 12: They stayed away from him. Sometimes that's how you avoid turnovers.

3060
02:25:47,680 --> 02:25:50,080
Speaker 12: Don't give the guy who's really good a chance.

3061
02:25:49,840 --> 02:25:50,680
Speaker 3: To make a turnover.

3062
02:25:51,160 --> 02:25:55,120
Speaker 12: Okay, that's planning, that's coaching, that's game plan number two.

3063
02:25:55,520 --> 02:25:58,400
Speaker 1: They had to win the turnover battle. Usually that's the case.

3064
02:25:58,240 --> 02:26:02,280
Speaker 12: With the Steelers statistic in any matchup, but in this one,

3065
02:26:02,640 --> 02:26:05,880
Speaker 12: Baltimore came in at minus floor Pittsburgh came in at

3066
02:26:05,879 --> 02:26:09,680
Speaker 12: plus eight. So the trends there are Steelers should win

3067
02:26:09,680 --> 02:26:10,440
Speaker 12: the turnover battle.

3068
02:26:10,440 --> 02:26:10,920
Speaker 3: In this game.

3069
02:26:11,000 --> 02:26:13,200
Speaker 12: They only got one, but it's set up a thirty

3070
02:26:13,240 --> 02:26:15,080
Speaker 12: six yard short field touchdown.

3071
02:26:15,120 --> 02:26:17,160
Speaker 1: Drive back the pass looking steps up in the pocket,

3072
02:26:17,360 --> 02:26:19,240
Speaker 1: moving to the right, trying to get to the edge,

3073
02:26:19,320 --> 02:26:20,119
Speaker 1: and it's gonna.

3074
02:26:19,879 --> 02:26:23,600
Speaker 2: Loft outfield one hited pickoff by James Pierre and Pierre

3075
02:26:23,640 --> 02:26:26,520
Speaker 2: down the left sideline, out of bounds at the thirty

3076
02:26:26,560 --> 02:26:31,640
Speaker 2: five yard line, leaping one handed interception by James Pierre.

3077
02:26:31,720 --> 02:26:33,840
Speaker 3: If the hell was Lamar doing on that one?

3078
02:26:33,920 --> 02:26:36,440
Speaker 12: What was he doing on that one? That was a

3079
02:26:36,480 --> 02:26:37,720
Speaker 12: horrifically bad play.

3080
02:26:38,200 --> 02:26:40,320
Speaker 1: He's good for one of those games he had. He

3081
02:26:40,959 --> 02:26:43,000
Speaker 1: was open, his receiver was open. Oh he was a

3082
02:26:43,040 --> 02:26:47,520
Speaker 1: bad room. But he just doesn't have that burst right now.

3083
02:26:47,560 --> 02:26:50,039
Speaker 1: He's had all these leg injuries this year. It's not

3084
02:26:50,160 --> 02:26:53,360
Speaker 1: the same. He doesn't seem to the last several weeks.

3085
02:26:53,400 --> 02:26:56,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem to have that same burst. The other

3086
02:26:56,280 --> 02:26:59,080
Speaker 1: critical element or another critical element.

3087
02:26:58,800 --> 02:27:02,840
Speaker 12: Red zone, which would always anyway, right, Baltimore came in

3088
02:27:03,040 --> 02:27:04,720
Speaker 12: thirtieth in red zone offense.

3089
02:27:05,160 --> 02:27:07,240
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh was tenth in red zone defense.

3090
02:27:07,280 --> 02:27:09,320
Speaker 1: So that's a match Okay, Steelers got to win this

3091
02:27:09,800 --> 02:27:12,640
Speaker 1: this part of the game within the game, and Baltimore

3092
02:27:12,680 --> 02:27:14,400
Speaker 1: goes two for six in the red zone, Well that

3093
02:27:14,560 --> 02:27:18,039
Speaker 1: was just huge and you won by five. Yeah, I

3094
02:27:18,080 --> 02:27:21,640
Speaker 1: mean the other way, it was a good matchup for six.

3095
02:27:21,760 --> 02:27:24,800
Speaker 1: Holy cow, Steelers were fifth in red zone offense.

3096
02:27:25,080 --> 02:27:26,840
Speaker 12: They suck unless they get close to the goal line,

3097
02:27:26,879 --> 02:27:29,959
Speaker 12: and they're pretty good. Baltimore was sixth in red zone defense,

3098
02:27:30,120 --> 02:27:30,480
Speaker 12: So you.

3099
02:27:30,440 --> 02:27:31,680
Speaker 3: Got to push that one, right.

3100
02:27:31,720 --> 02:27:35,160
Speaker 1: It's basically Mikemlin loves the ben, but don't break Mike.

3101
02:27:35,360 --> 02:27:37,560
Speaker 12: They went two for four offensively in the red zone,

3102
02:27:37,600 --> 02:27:42,280
Speaker 12: so that's good enough. They pushed it. That part didn't

3103
02:27:42,320 --> 02:27:45,280
Speaker 12: decide it. The defensive part of the red zone helped

3104
02:27:45,280 --> 02:27:48,840
Speaker 12: decide it. And then the pass rush element, the pass

3105
02:27:48,920 --> 02:27:53,440
Speaker 12: rush component of associated with playing a football. Baltimore had

3106
02:27:53,640 --> 02:27:57,440
Speaker 12: given up fifteen more sacks than it had recorded going

3107
02:27:57,480 --> 02:28:01,480
Speaker 12: into that game. The Steelers had registered twelve more sacks

3108
02:28:01,520 --> 02:28:03,960
Speaker 12: then they gave up. So again, this is part of

3109
02:28:04,000 --> 02:28:07,320
Speaker 12: the game. Pittsburgh should win. Two sacks for the Steelers,

3110
02:28:07,320 --> 02:28:09,600
Speaker 12: none for the Ravens. All this stuff adds up. So

3111
02:28:09,800 --> 02:28:12,720
Speaker 12: that's how you survived two hundred and seventeen rushing yards,

3112
02:28:12,840 --> 02:28:15,320
Speaker 12: which you knew going in that was an advantage that

3113
02:28:15,600 --> 02:28:16,600
Speaker 12: clearly favored the run.

3114
02:28:16,720 --> 02:28:17,960
Speaker 3: We were two for four in the red zone.

3115
02:28:18,040 --> 02:28:20,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to remember the two times that we

3116
02:28:20,760 --> 02:28:23,160
Speaker 1: what happened when we didn't field goals?

3117
02:28:23,160 --> 02:28:25,520
Speaker 3: Two field goals? Okay, both of them, Boz.

3118
02:28:25,760 --> 02:28:32,080
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this Kinger yesterday, the defensive effort,

3119
02:28:32,680 --> 02:28:34,600
Speaker 1: didn't it look like they were better at stopping the

3120
02:28:34,640 --> 02:28:36,520
Speaker 1: run even though they gave up two hundred and thirty

3121
02:28:36,560 --> 02:28:39,440
Speaker 1: yards actually or two hundred and twenty yards. So two things

3122
02:28:39,480 --> 02:28:41,760
Speaker 1: did back up, and Mike said, the last nine times

3123
02:28:41,760 --> 02:28:44,119
Speaker 1: the Steelers have won the turnover battle, they've won the game.

3124
02:28:45,600 --> 02:28:50,040
Speaker 1: So sorry, let me see it again. Last nine times

3125
02:28:50,080 --> 02:28:51,840
Speaker 1: the Steelers have not turned the ball over, they won

3126
02:28:51,959 --> 02:28:53,800
Speaker 1: the game. So we always we always think about this

3127
02:28:53,840 --> 02:28:56,880
Speaker 1: Steelers in terms of getting turnovers. Like we were talking

3128
02:28:57,160 --> 02:28:59,199
Speaker 1: during one of the breaks about the five or maybe

3129
02:28:59,200 --> 02:29:02,360
Speaker 1: it was the last segment five turnovers you created in

3130
02:29:02,400 --> 02:29:04,280
Speaker 1: New England and how you win the game. Well, if

3131
02:29:04,280 --> 02:29:07,680
Speaker 1: the other part of the turnover culture is not turning

3132
02:29:07,680 --> 02:29:10,640
Speaker 1: it over, right, it's not just getting turnovers, it's not

3133
02:29:10,720 --> 02:29:13,360
Speaker 1: turning it over. Last nine times they haven't turned them

3134
02:29:13,360 --> 02:29:15,800
Speaker 1: all over, they won the game. That doesn't mean you

3135
02:29:15,800 --> 02:29:18,200
Speaker 1: should just kneel down three times and punted away, by

3136
02:29:18,200 --> 02:29:18,480
Speaker 1: the way.

3137
02:29:18,680 --> 02:29:19,279
Speaker 3: It doesn't.

3138
02:29:19,320 --> 02:29:22,240
Speaker 12: But there are times when you put the ball at

3139
02:29:22,360 --> 02:29:25,240
Speaker 12: risk and there are times when you do not. And hey,

3140
02:29:25,480 --> 02:29:27,600
Speaker 12: I would have played that last series differently. When you're

3141
02:29:27,640 --> 02:29:30,520
Speaker 12: on the eight yard line, I would have thrown based

3142
02:29:30,560 --> 02:29:33,720
Speaker 12: on what the defense was showing and the success they

3143
02:29:33,760 --> 02:29:35,480
Speaker 12: had had through the game, but.

3144
02:29:35,879 --> 02:29:38,560
Speaker 3: They got scared straight from the Aaron Rodgers almost intercense.

3145
02:29:38,640 --> 02:29:39,600
Speaker 3: I think that's what happened.

3146
02:29:39,640 --> 02:29:43,160
Speaker 12: But he played it according to the percentages, you know,

3147
02:29:43,440 --> 02:29:45,280
Speaker 12: playing a percentage. I don't know if that's living in

3148
02:29:45,320 --> 02:29:48,960
Speaker 12: your fears. Sometimes being smart is being smart, and they

3149
02:29:49,000 --> 02:29:50,680
Speaker 12: got away with it. So it was the right decision.

3150
02:29:51,040 --> 02:29:52,920
Speaker 12: If the Ravens had gone down and scored, then it

3151
02:29:52,920 --> 02:29:54,960
Speaker 12: would have been a stupid decision because they would have lost.

3152
02:29:55,160 --> 02:29:57,520
Speaker 12: But they didn't go out and score. They won the game,

3153
02:29:57,600 --> 02:29:58,720
Speaker 12: so it was the right decision.

3154
02:30:00,480 --> 02:30:02,440
Speaker 3: Nice game for Corless Weightman too, by the way, bounce

3155
02:30:02,520 --> 02:30:03,600
Speaker 3: back game. He had a couple of.

3156
02:30:03,600 --> 02:30:07,640
Speaker 1: Badmines and they needed them. And to your point, I

3157
02:30:07,640 --> 02:30:10,840
Speaker 1: mean they held them. They held uh Derrek Henry to

3158
02:30:10,959 --> 02:30:13,560
Speaker 1: eleven carries for thirty four yards. That's what made it

3159
02:30:13,600 --> 02:30:16,280
Speaker 1: feel like they played the run in the first half.

3160
02:30:16,280 --> 02:30:18,520
Speaker 1: In the first half, it made it feel like they

3161
02:30:18,520 --> 02:30:20,920
Speaker 1: were playing to run better than of course the long run.

3162
02:30:21,560 --> 02:30:24,280
Speaker 3: But those two count just like your long passes count.

3163
02:30:24,360 --> 02:30:25,000
Speaker 3: Long run out.

3164
02:30:25,040 --> 02:30:27,560
Speaker 12: But they didn't let the Ravens dictate with the run,

3165
02:30:27,600 --> 02:30:29,760
Speaker 12: and it didn't affect the way they called their defense.

3166
02:30:29,959 --> 02:30:32,640
Speaker 12: Whereas the Buffalo game. It was pretty appaired. Even in

3167
02:30:32,680 --> 02:30:36,360
Speaker 12: the first half. They were running the ball, right, Like,

3168
02:30:36,400 --> 02:30:38,240
Speaker 12: did anybody feel good? Was it seven to three?

3169
02:30:38,360 --> 02:30:38,720
Speaker 3: Or yes?

3170
02:30:38,760 --> 02:30:42,080
Speaker 12: It was seven seven six? Did anybody feel great about that?

3171
02:30:42,480 --> 02:30:42,640
Speaker 3: No?

3172
02:30:42,879 --> 02:30:44,879
Speaker 1: So I mentioned all those games that the Steelers had

3173
02:30:45,000 --> 02:30:47,000
Speaker 1: led at halftime and got the ball to begin the

3174
02:30:47,040 --> 02:30:49,440
Speaker 1: second half. That was one of them. Of those four games,

3175
02:30:49,480 --> 02:30:50,800
Speaker 1: that was the one that felt the worst. There was

3176
02:30:50,840 --> 02:30:51,440
Speaker 1: actually five of.

3177
02:30:51,440 --> 02:30:55,080
Speaker 3: Them that they that they led, led.

3178
02:30:54,920 --> 02:30:56,440
Speaker 1: In the second going on to the second half and

3179
02:30:56,520 --> 02:30:58,280
Speaker 1: got got the ball first and lost the game.

3180
02:30:58,480 --> 02:31:00,840
Speaker 3: Seattle knowing oh and lost the game, lost the game,

3181
02:31:00,920 --> 02:31:03,039
Speaker 3: lost the game. There was four. Yeah, that's what four

3182
02:31:03,160 --> 02:31:05,640
Speaker 3: going in And then yesterday New England they also screwed

3183
02:31:05,640 --> 02:31:05,880
Speaker 3: it up.

3184
02:31:05,879 --> 02:31:08,520
Speaker 1: But they won the game, right, yeah, so so right,

3185
02:31:08,560 --> 02:31:10,480
Speaker 1: but they won the game. I'm talking about the losses.

3186
02:31:10,520 --> 02:31:13,600
Speaker 1: They could have been victories, but Buffalo. Of those games,

3187
02:31:13,680 --> 02:31:15,520
Speaker 1: Buffalo felt the least likely to win.

3188
02:31:15,560 --> 02:31:17,720
Speaker 3: All right, Did you pull a call from the post

3189
02:31:17,720 --> 02:31:21,440
Speaker 3: game for us? Did Max from Houston? We'll do that next,

3190
02:31:21,800 --> 02:31:23,360
Speaker 3: tried to Suck the Joy out of life.

3191
02:31:23,400 --> 02:31:27,960
Speaker 1: Two power hour of Steeler Talk with Rob King, Voice

3192
02:31:27,959 --> 02:31:30,160
Speaker 1: of the Steelers here on your radio, Home of the

3193
02:31:30,160 --> 02:31:32,840
Speaker 1: black and Gold one a two point five DVE on

3194
02:31:32,920 --> 02:31:36,120
Speaker 1: a two point five DVE rob king with us for

3195
02:31:36,160 --> 02:31:40,480
Speaker 1: a power hour of Steeler talk. Pretty interesting that DK

3196
02:31:40,640 --> 02:31:45,120
Speaker 1: metcalf took a rep on that last punt. Corlis Weightman

3197
02:31:45,320 --> 02:31:50,440
Speaker 1: thankfully gets off just a bomb, which they needed from

3198
02:31:50,480 --> 02:31:52,640
Speaker 1: him there and he's been due for that.

3199
02:31:53,800 --> 02:31:56,280
Speaker 3: But DK went in because he thoughts Chronic's finger was

3200
02:31:56,320 --> 02:31:58,520
Speaker 3: messed up. Was it Schronic or Ecles?

3201
02:31:58,840 --> 02:32:01,520
Speaker 1: Well, it was Schronic and then Scronic said I'm not

3202
02:32:01,520 --> 02:32:04,119
Speaker 1: not taking this rep, and he kicked Echos.

3203
02:32:03,680 --> 02:32:06,360
Speaker 3: Off and so the two of them go down. DK

3204
02:32:06,520 --> 02:32:07,360
Speaker 3: draws two guys.

3205
02:32:08,320 --> 02:32:10,960
Speaker 1: That play results in a holding call that backs them

3206
02:32:11,000 --> 02:32:15,400
Speaker 1: up ten yards, which really put the Ravens behind a ball,

3207
02:32:15,400 --> 02:32:17,720
Speaker 1: and then they take I think the illegal formation penalty

3208
02:32:17,720 --> 02:32:21,320
Speaker 1: immediately backs them up again. They're first and twenty. That

3209
02:32:21,879 --> 02:32:25,480
Speaker 1: kind of was the uh you know, the writing on

3210
02:32:25,520 --> 02:32:27,840
Speaker 1: the wall. Yeah, they still almost pulled it off, but

3211
02:32:28,040 --> 02:32:29,800
Speaker 1: it wasn't reading any writing on the wall then, but

3212
02:32:29,879 --> 02:32:33,680
Speaker 1: it helped. Well, the point I wanted to make is

3213
02:32:33,800 --> 02:32:36,280
Speaker 1: this is like the polar opposite of what I thought

3214
02:32:36,280 --> 02:32:40,040
Speaker 1: this team was doing the week before, weeks before, which

3215
02:32:41,080 --> 02:32:44,119
Speaker 1: is like they weren't buying into the team game plan.

3216
02:32:44,360 --> 02:32:46,400
Speaker 3: It didn't seem like and there was not like a

3217
02:32:46,600 --> 02:32:48,480
Speaker 3: unity that we're used to seeing.

3218
02:32:48,520 --> 02:32:50,880
Speaker 1: And we kept hearing that the locker room was a

3219
02:32:50,920 --> 02:32:54,480
Speaker 1: bunch of single guys. It's like backstage at an Eagles.

3220
02:32:54,120 --> 02:32:56,840
Speaker 3: Concerts, you know, exparate dressing the exactly.

3221
02:32:57,200 --> 02:33:01,520
Speaker 1: But when DK metcalf Is going in and covering punts

3222
02:33:01,879 --> 02:33:04,320
Speaker 1: and scronic. Also his effort on that one play, I

3223
02:33:04,320 --> 02:33:05,680
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys saw that where he just

3224
02:33:05,720 --> 02:33:08,039
Speaker 1: got double team and knocked out a bounce and kept fighting,

3225
02:33:08,160 --> 02:33:10,560
Speaker 1: kept running back to people. He got knocked down a

3226
02:33:10,600 --> 02:33:12,400
Speaker 1: bunch of times, and he kept getting back up and

3227
02:33:12,920 --> 02:33:16,320
Speaker 1: trying to cover the punt. I mean, Danny Smith really

3228
02:33:16,360 --> 02:33:18,560
Speaker 1: had those guys dialed in. Yesterday, well, I think the

3229
02:33:18,600 --> 02:33:21,600
Speaker 1: whole team was styled. And I mean Queen, Eccles and

3230
02:33:21,680 --> 02:33:23,679
Speaker 1: Betton all came back from injury.

3231
02:33:23,920 --> 02:33:26,360
Speaker 3: And Queen's injury looked like he was gonna need a wheelchair.

3232
02:33:26,400 --> 02:33:29,840
Speaker 3: And imagine they didn't have Betton Harmon.

3233
02:33:30,040 --> 02:33:33,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh why he Black made a big play when

3234
02:33:33,160 --> 02:33:34,119
Speaker 1: he was in for him.

3235
02:33:34,720 --> 02:33:35,840
Speaker 3: He almost brought down Lamar.

3236
02:33:37,080 --> 02:33:40,200
Speaker 1: That guy, whoever that right guard is, that guy got

3237
02:33:40,200 --> 02:33:41,039
Speaker 1: crushed yesterday.

3238
02:33:41,720 --> 02:33:46,000
Speaker 3: I believe that was the great Daniel. Yeah, I think

3239
02:33:46,080 --> 02:33:50,320
Speaker 3: him and Lamar had some words. He's like Jojo the Whale.

3240
02:33:50,480 --> 02:33:53,480
Speaker 12: Yeah, you don't walk with Daniel, you walk among him.

3241
02:33:53,760 --> 02:33:57,560
Speaker 12: So he's a mass I think he's pushing four bills Kinger.

3242
02:33:57,600 --> 02:33:59,640
Speaker 1: Back in the day, you did the postgame show, Yes

3243
02:34:00,200 --> 02:34:02,400
Speaker 1: a network. Mike is currently at the Helm there and

3244
02:34:02,440 --> 02:34:04,760
Speaker 1: I was asked Mike to pull one call out from

3245
02:34:04,760 --> 02:34:06,760
Speaker 1: the post game because I like to just to know

3246
02:34:06,879 --> 02:34:11,640
Speaker 1: the tenor of Steeler nationsgeist, Like, what are you guys feeling?

3247
02:34:11,640 --> 02:34:14,039
Speaker 1: Because to me, I was elited. I was just so

3248
02:34:14,200 --> 02:34:16,560
Speaker 1: glad we beat the Ravens. I don't can buy hook

3249
02:34:16,760 --> 02:34:19,480
Speaker 1: or by Crook. I don't care. Let's get the w

3250
02:34:20,200 --> 02:34:23,680
Speaker 1: and uh. This is from that postgame show with Charlie

3251
02:34:23,720 --> 02:34:26,199
Speaker 1: Batch that Mike Pursuer runs.

3252
02:34:26,200 --> 02:34:28,840
Speaker 3: Max in Houston. You're up next with Mike and Charlie.

3253
02:34:30,720 --> 02:34:35,160
Speaker 26: Hey, guys, I'm going to agree with that guy. Just

3254
02:34:35,280 --> 02:34:39,560
Speaker 26: from Boswell, Pa there, I was calling to put a cold,

3255
02:34:39,600 --> 02:34:43,800
Speaker 26: wet bucket of ice in the blanket on all this diddiness,

3256
02:34:44,120 --> 02:34:46,440
Speaker 26: the Stiller defense if you realize the play.

3257
02:34:46,440 --> 02:34:49,000
Speaker 15: Look at this game was not good.

3258
02:34:50,160 --> 02:34:53,480
Speaker 26: During the week, I heard some national announcement referred to

3259
02:34:53,520 --> 02:34:57,160
Speaker 26: it as the silk curtain no longer than the still curtain,

3260
02:34:57,240 --> 02:35:01,240
Speaker 26: and I have to agree. First drive, they went right

3261
02:35:01,280 --> 02:35:02,879
Speaker 26: down the field, but we did hold him to a

3262
02:35:02,879 --> 02:35:07,920
Speaker 26: field goals after we took the lead when Boswell picked

3263
02:35:07,959 --> 02:35:08,560
Speaker 26: it short.

3264
02:35:08,879 --> 02:35:09,760
Speaker 15: But the penalty we.

3265
02:35:09,720 --> 02:35:11,959
Speaker 26: Gave him at the ball to forty end of a half,

3266
02:35:12,480 --> 02:35:14,440
Speaker 26: it was very important. At the end of the half,

3267
02:35:14,720 --> 02:35:17,959
Speaker 26: they went down and scored a touchdown. The second half,

3268
02:35:18,120 --> 02:35:22,040
Speaker 26: the defense never really stopped them. It was that one

3269
02:35:22,160 --> 02:35:27,640
Speaker 26: controversial play on the touchdown that stopped them. If they

3270
02:35:27,640 --> 02:35:30,640
Speaker 26: didn't miss the extra point, they probably would have kicked

3271
02:35:30,680 --> 02:35:34,080
Speaker 26: the field goal then and then yes, Alex tight Smith

3272
02:35:34,080 --> 02:35:38,080
Speaker 26: and the last play he miraculously got a sack and

3273
02:35:38,120 --> 02:35:41,879
Speaker 26: that saved the day. But this defense, this entire year

3274
02:35:42,080 --> 02:35:43,640
Speaker 26: is not championship worthy.

3275
02:35:44,120 --> 02:35:45,800
Speaker 3: I'm going to stop it there because I'm guessing.

3276
02:35:46,240 --> 02:35:48,000
Speaker 12: He went on to say that they're going to get

3277
02:35:48,000 --> 02:35:49,480
Speaker 12: blown out in the first round again.

3278
02:35:49,879 --> 02:35:51,440
Speaker 3: Oh yes, all right, Well you.

3279
02:35:51,400 --> 02:35:53,520
Speaker 19: Know the silk kurt and he thought that was funny. Well,

3280
02:35:53,920 --> 02:35:56,920
Speaker 19: did you know that silk has a greater tensile strength

3281
02:35:56,959 --> 02:35:57,480
Speaker 19: then steel?

3282
02:35:57,720 --> 02:35:58,280
Speaker 17: But oh.

3283
02:36:00,160 --> 02:36:06,360
Speaker 3: It doesn't. Wow, take that pipe and smoke. It's now

3284
02:36:06,440 --> 02:36:08,920
Speaker 3: about that with your silk fan.

3285
02:36:09,080 --> 02:36:12,199
Speaker 19: I know that because I watched Spider Man two just yesterday.

3286
02:36:14,800 --> 02:36:17,600
Speaker 1: I knew there was Spider Man.

3287
02:36:17,680 --> 02:36:18,879
Speaker 12: I knew there was going to be at least one

3288
02:36:18,959 --> 02:36:20,920
Speaker 12: of those. I just because you told me to keep

3289
02:36:20,959 --> 02:36:22,040
Speaker 12: an eye out for a good call.

3290
02:36:23,640 --> 02:36:27,080
Speaker 3: That's it. I don't have to write any more down.

3291
02:36:27,240 --> 02:36:31,400
Speaker 12: I read the comments the Calvin Austin clip that I

3292
02:36:31,440 --> 02:36:34,000
Speaker 12: played today. Mike de Fabo from The Athletic posted that

3293
02:36:34,600 --> 02:36:37,320
Speaker 12: on Twitter, and I made the mistake of reading the

3294
02:36:37,360 --> 02:36:38,760
Speaker 12: comments underneath it.

3295
02:36:38,800 --> 02:36:41,480
Speaker 1: And that's the clip where Calvin Austin said, you know,

3296
02:36:41,600 --> 02:36:43,400
Speaker 1: you guys can care if the whole world booze.

3297
02:36:43,520 --> 02:36:47,440
Speaker 12: Yeah, just there's just some people who are going to

3298
02:36:47,520 --> 02:36:49,680
Speaker 12: refuse to take any joy out of this season.

3299
02:36:49,959 --> 02:36:51,760
Speaker 1: God bless you all. If that's the way you want

3300
02:36:51,800 --> 02:36:54,880
Speaker 1: to go through life, have at it. Why are you watching?

3301
02:36:55,560 --> 02:36:59,440
Speaker 1: I thought yesterday was one of the first times this

3302
02:36:59,520 --> 02:37:03,920
Speaker 1: year I felt like it was the Steelers. They were

3303
02:37:03,920 --> 02:37:05,400
Speaker 1: playing like the Steelers.

3304
02:37:05,400 --> 02:37:07,680
Speaker 3: It was hard. Guys were getting knocked out of the

3305
02:37:07,720 --> 02:37:08,520
Speaker 3: game left and right.

3306
02:37:08,560 --> 02:37:12,240
Speaker 19: Know, the pent up frustration that got released and alleviated

3307
02:37:12,440 --> 02:37:15,960
Speaker 19: with the first bomb to Dkay. Oh my god, that

3308
02:37:16,280 --> 02:37:19,720
Speaker 19: was a soothing bomb on this entire season.

3309
02:37:19,840 --> 02:37:22,240
Speaker 3: A bomb ball, a bomb bomb. It was a bomb bomb.

3310
02:37:22,360 --> 02:37:25,760
Speaker 3: Who told you to put the bomb on? The bomb?

3311
02:37:25,680 --> 02:37:29,200
Speaker 1: About the bomb? My dog was going crazy because that's

3312
02:37:29,280 --> 02:37:31,560
Speaker 1: I was screaming. Anytime I screamed, the dog goes creaky.

3313
02:37:31,680 --> 02:37:32,160
Speaker 3: So I'm like.

3314
02:37:32,200 --> 02:37:36,840
Speaker 1: God a bunch of times during the game yesterday, And

3315
02:37:37,320 --> 02:37:39,200
Speaker 1: that's kind of like the first time it felt like

3316
02:37:39,200 --> 02:37:40,640
Speaker 1: that this year. I don't know, it felt to me

3317
02:37:41,280 --> 02:37:44,119
Speaker 1: like it really got back to some Steeler football.

3318
02:37:44,160 --> 02:37:46,039
Speaker 3: I understand the concerns about the defense.

3319
02:37:46,160 --> 02:37:48,160
Speaker 1: We said there was one big splash play on the

3320
02:37:48,160 --> 02:37:51,000
Speaker 1: defense there and this was I think Queen was hurt

3321
02:37:51,360 --> 02:37:52,160
Speaker 1: on that series.

3322
02:37:52,280 --> 02:37:54,720
Speaker 3: I'm not sure the one what hulkumb Hulm was in.

3323
02:37:54,800 --> 02:37:56,880
Speaker 1: It was in they got a shot to get him

3324
02:37:56,920 --> 02:37:59,720
Speaker 1: in the backfield and then he ran through Hulcomb about

3325
02:37:59,800 --> 02:38:00,959
Speaker 1: fours into it and then.

3326
02:38:00,879 --> 02:38:01,320
Speaker 3: He was gone.

3327
02:38:01,400 --> 02:38:03,000
Speaker 1: And I know you say those plays count, but like

3328
02:38:03,640 --> 02:38:06,880
Speaker 1: they still looked a lot better than they did against

3329
02:38:06,920 --> 02:38:09,240
Speaker 1: the Bills. And it was this is the description I

3330
02:38:09,280 --> 02:38:12,199
Speaker 1: thought of during the commercial break. It looked hopeless versus

3331
02:38:12,200 --> 02:38:14,640
Speaker 1: the Bills. It's like nothing is going to work. They

3332
02:38:14,720 --> 02:38:17,440
Speaker 1: cannot stop them. And I didn't think that at all.

3333
02:38:17,600 --> 02:38:20,879
Speaker 3: Yesterday. I thought they could. There was times they didn't.

3334
02:38:21,320 --> 02:38:23,560
Speaker 1: They looked coached up better, They looked like they were

3335
02:38:23,560 --> 02:38:24,920
Speaker 1: a gap sound.

3336
02:38:25,440 --> 02:38:29,199
Speaker 3: Guys, weren't way out of position. That sounds.

3337
02:38:29,560 --> 02:38:33,039
Speaker 1: Let's not ever use that a deep scheming schematics and

3338
02:38:33,120 --> 02:38:36,440
Speaker 1: gap sound or every time something goes while we were

3339
02:38:36,680 --> 02:38:39,680
Speaker 1: I guess not, but there is.

3340
02:38:39,760 --> 02:38:41,959
Speaker 3: There was a beat down element to the Bills.

3341
02:38:42,000 --> 02:38:45,280
Speaker 1: They just kept getting seven yards, eight yards, you know,

3342
02:38:45,680 --> 02:38:50,400
Speaker 1: second and two, second and three and yeah, right, and

3343
02:38:50,440 --> 02:38:53,000
Speaker 1: the Steelers, Okay, Henry got a couple of big runs.

3344
02:38:53,600 --> 02:38:56,959
Speaker 1: He's the greatest December running back in NFL history. Yes,

3345
02:38:57,520 --> 02:39:00,200
Speaker 1: but then history and then ever you would look up

3346
02:39:00,320 --> 02:39:02,879
Speaker 1: and then it would be third and six, right, yep,

3347
02:39:03,240 --> 02:39:09,840
Speaker 1: and they won the game. They're in first place. It is,

3348
02:39:09,959 --> 02:39:12,480
Speaker 1: it is, Yes, the.

3349
02:39:12,360 --> 02:39:14,400
Speaker 12: One game you want to win above all the other

3350
02:39:14,440 --> 02:39:16,080
Speaker 12: ones is Baltimore and BALI.

3351
02:39:16,080 --> 02:39:21,240
Speaker 1: In Baltimore, when I understand, we all see our own

3352
02:39:21,360 --> 02:39:23,560
Speaker 1: warts the clearest, right, That's just the way it is.

3353
02:39:24,959 --> 02:39:28,800
Speaker 1: But look at the NFL. The Chiefs are six and seven.

3354
02:39:29,040 --> 02:39:31,680
Speaker 1: For some reason, Tampa Bay lost at home to New Orleans,

3355
02:39:31,800 --> 02:39:36,039
Speaker 1: New Orleans. I have it is the strangest, This is

3356
02:39:36,080 --> 02:39:39,400
Speaker 1: the simplest strangest season in the NFL I can ever remember,

3357
02:39:39,720 --> 02:39:41,240
Speaker 1: and I and I talk about it with the other

3358
02:39:41,280 --> 02:39:43,560
Speaker 1: play by play guys are going, Hey, what's going on.

3359
02:39:45,360 --> 02:39:47,720
Speaker 3: In the steam room? You guys have no no, no,

3360
02:39:47,959 --> 02:39:49,320
Speaker 3: it's it's a. It's a it's a.

3361
02:39:49,440 --> 02:39:53,520
Speaker 1: They're they're also doing play by play executive And we

3362
02:39:53,520 --> 02:39:56,160
Speaker 1: were talking about yesterday like this is the weirdest year

3363
02:39:56,879 --> 02:39:58,080
Speaker 1: I can ever remember.

3364
02:39:57,800 --> 02:40:00,400
Speaker 19: Speaking of which talk about looking up and seeing something.

3365
02:40:00,640 --> 02:40:03,320
Speaker 19: The Texans, who I didn't even know. I thought they

3366
02:40:03,320 --> 02:40:05,920
Speaker 19: were as bad as the Titans, all of a sudden

3367
02:40:06,240 --> 02:40:10,879
Speaker 19: might actually be the leading best potential team in the AFC.

3368
02:40:10,800 --> 02:40:14,040
Speaker 3: When you have a defense like that, and then and

3369
02:40:14,080 --> 02:40:15,680
Speaker 3: you can run the quarterbacks back c J.

3370
02:40:15,800 --> 02:40:17,840
Speaker 1: Stroud finally back, which, by the way, that was what

3371
02:40:17,879 --> 02:40:20,560
Speaker 1: the Steelers are supposed to be this year. Historic defense

3372
02:40:20,600 --> 02:40:25,480
Speaker 1: and a running attack, and then Aaron Rodgers steering the

3373
02:40:25,600 --> 02:40:27,760
Speaker 1: entire thing right.

3374
02:40:29,640 --> 02:40:33,000
Speaker 3: They ran yesterday, though, I mean, you ain't.

3375
02:40:34,920 --> 02:40:36,959
Speaker 1: Well, if they're going to win it, it is apparently

3376
02:40:36,959 --> 02:40:38,920
Speaker 1: not on the ground. What do you think is a

3377
02:40:38,920 --> 02:40:40,439
Speaker 1: bigger loss to them?

3378
02:40:41,080 --> 02:40:45,200
Speaker 3: Washington? Yeah, Washington over Andreo.

3379
02:40:44,920 --> 02:40:49,200
Speaker 1: Anybody else you were going to mention? Yeah, they did?

3380
02:40:49,200 --> 02:40:51,560
Speaker 19: He say after postgame, like, how I guess that he

3381
02:40:51,600 --> 02:40:53,400
Speaker 19: never makes a comment how long anyone's gonna.

3382
02:40:53,200 --> 02:40:54,360
Speaker 3: Be percussion guys.

3383
02:40:56,440 --> 02:40:58,480
Speaker 1: Well, you saw when he fell and his head kind

3384
02:40:58,480 --> 02:41:02,000
Speaker 1: of whacked off the the ground there as a long way.

3385
02:41:02,000 --> 02:41:03,040
Speaker 3: Well that's what I'm saying.

3386
02:41:03,080 --> 02:41:06,200
Speaker 19: His head also weighs eighty five pounds. That's very that's

3387
02:41:06,240 --> 02:41:08,000
Speaker 19: a lot of force going down. Yeah, you could tell

3388
02:41:08,040 --> 02:41:09,320
Speaker 19: he was hurting, But I don't know. I thought the

3389
02:41:09,320 --> 02:41:13,879
Speaker 19: Steelers played with a lot of grit yesterday. I thought

3390
02:41:13,959 --> 02:41:16,440
Speaker 19: Deyla Cook did fine. Then they even stopped helping him

3391
02:41:16,480 --> 02:41:20,720
Speaker 19: after a series. It was only thirteen snaps. But this

3392
02:41:20,800 --> 02:41:24,680
Speaker 19: is a guy who was on Tampa's undrafted out of Montana.

3393
02:41:25,160 --> 02:41:27,760
Speaker 19: He was on Tampa's practice squad in twenty twenty two,

3394
02:41:27,879 --> 02:41:31,520
Speaker 19: didn't play. He was on a Steelers in twenty twenty three.

3395
02:41:31,520 --> 02:41:32,160
Speaker 3: Didn't play.

3396
02:41:32,560 --> 02:41:34,680
Speaker 12: He was injured for most of twenty twenty four and

3397
02:41:34,680 --> 02:41:37,160
Speaker 12: then brought back eventually to be on the practice squad.

3398
02:41:37,280 --> 02:41:40,039
Speaker 3: That was his NFL debut yesterday. Yeah, but this is a.

3399
02:41:40,040 --> 02:41:42,960
Speaker 12: Guy who has been practicing and prepping for a long time.

3400
02:41:43,520 --> 02:41:46,720
Speaker 12: It wasn't too big for I mean, very limited sample size.

3401
02:41:46,800 --> 02:41:50,440
Speaker 12: And then the other thing that is potentially game changing

3402
02:41:50,440 --> 02:41:53,560
Speaker 12: in terms of what they're capable of. Adam Steeling played

3403
02:41:53,920 --> 02:41:56,640
Speaker 12: forty eight percent of the snaps twenty five. He was

3404
02:41:56,680 --> 02:41:58,680
Speaker 12: the second most used wide receiver.

3405
02:41:59,120 --> 02:42:02,600
Speaker 3: Oh wow, he only got targeted once. But they clearly

3406
02:42:02,680 --> 02:42:03,680
Speaker 3: have plans for this guy.

3407
02:42:04,280 --> 02:42:09,560
Speaker 12: And Marquez Valdez Scantling played thirty one percent of the snaps,

3408
02:42:09,560 --> 02:42:11,039
Speaker 12: as many as Calvin Austin.

3409
02:42:11,720 --> 02:42:13,760
Speaker 1: Just for funzies, I played them both for an any

3410
02:42:13,760 --> 02:42:15,879
Speaker 1: time touchdown yesterday. They were plus nine hundred and plus

3411
02:42:15,879 --> 02:42:18,959
Speaker 1: one thousand, respectively. I got ten bucks. Never killed anybody.

3412
02:42:18,959 --> 02:42:20,080
Speaker 1: Who Let's see what happens here.

3413
02:42:20,160 --> 02:42:23,680
Speaker 12: You know, you know, Valdess Scantling was not used for

3414
02:42:23,720 --> 02:42:26,199
Speaker 12: four games. He should be up to speed by now.

3415
02:42:26,760 --> 02:42:30,520
Speaker 12: And they did an unbelievable job with theland just crash course,

3416
02:42:31,040 --> 02:42:32,160
Speaker 12: you know, go back to stripes.

3417
02:42:32,240 --> 02:42:34,680
Speaker 3: I learned two semesters of geology one night. You guys

3418
02:42:34,720 --> 02:42:36,960
Speaker 3: ever crammed before? Yeah? I mean he crammed?

3419
02:42:37,520 --> 02:42:37,680
Speaker 15: Uh?

3420
02:42:38,520 --> 02:42:40,320
Speaker 3: I think that guy at Scantling.

3421
02:42:40,920 --> 02:42:45,000
Speaker 1: Is there any coincidence that those two guys are running

3422
02:42:45,040 --> 02:42:48,040
Speaker 1: routes yesterday and playing that many downs and DK has

3423
02:42:48,440 --> 02:42:51,279
Speaker 1: best game in Aaron Rodgers.

3424
02:42:51,040 --> 02:42:54,720
Speaker 12: Doesn't believe in coincidences as he told us Roma Wilson

3425
02:42:54,720 --> 02:42:56,039
Speaker 12: got scratched, healthy scratch.

3426
02:42:56,720 --> 02:42:59,880
Speaker 3: I mean, it wasn't happening.

3427
02:43:00,080 --> 02:43:02,320
Speaker 12: Not all his fault. Rogers missed him in the last game.

3428
02:43:02,320 --> 02:43:05,040
Speaker 12: He could have had a big play. Maybe Rogers doesn't overthrow.

3429
02:43:05,200 --> 02:43:09,240
Speaker 12: He's still playing. But everybody, that's the lineup they gotta

3430
02:43:09,280 --> 02:43:09,560
Speaker 12: go with.

3431
02:43:09,640 --> 02:43:11,800
Speaker 1: I think everybody thought Rowan Wilson was gonna be the

3432
02:43:11,840 --> 02:43:13,879
Speaker 1: next time's ward and he's turned out to be a

3433
02:43:13,879 --> 02:43:14,440
Speaker 1: tomato can.

3434
02:43:14,440 --> 02:43:19,560
Speaker 3: All right, that was the last one I had. I

3435
02:43:19,600 --> 02:43:22,320
Speaker 3: had that three hours. I just wanted to get that

3436
02:43:22,400 --> 02:43:24,080
Speaker 3: last one in before I leave. Thank you.

3437
02:43:24,160 --> 02:43:27,760
Speaker 1: Thanks to Rob Kiggs see a Kinger and also thanks

3438
02:43:29,200 --> 02:43:33,640
Speaker 1: yeah head headphones, that's some of them.

3439
02:43:33,680 --> 02:43:36,800
Speaker 3: This is iHeartRadio. We don't have radio equipment everywhere.

3440
02:43:37,480 --> 02:43:40,120
Speaker 1: Also thanks to Jeane's Territory for calling in on a

3441
02:43:40,160 --> 02:43:43,640
Speaker 1: Monday today because you know, he was the guy we

3442
02:43:43,680 --> 02:43:46,600
Speaker 1: all wanted to hear. Yeah uh and of course next

3443
02:43:46,600 --> 02:43:49,560
Speaker 1: to Tim Bens. As a result, tomorrow will have Jerry

3444
02:43:49,600 --> 02:43:51,800
Speaker 1: Dulac on the show, Charlie Batch and Billy Gardelle. And

3445
02:43:51,800 --> 02:43:54,120
Speaker 1: a big thank you to Jeff Conkle. As always, you

3446
02:43:54,200 --> 02:43:58,480
Speaker 1: got anything coming up here. Nothing holiday in the holidays, Thankfully.

3447
02:43:57,840 --> 02:43:59,400
Speaker 3: Silk is stronger than stuff like that.

3448
02:44:00,040 --> 02:44:02,800
Speaker 1: I learned something today, I mean, Jeff, I would probably

3449
02:44:02,879 --> 02:44:04,480
Speaker 1: check that to verify I am.

3450
02:44:05,920 --> 02:44:08,480
Speaker 3: I'm prone to talking out of my silk glands.

3451
02:44:08,560 --> 02:44:10,760
Speaker 1: If you quote a movie, that is a fact as

3452
02:44:10,760 --> 02:44:12,840
Speaker 1: far as I'm conn said it. First, Chris is in

3453
02:44:12,840 --> 02:44:14,480
Speaker 1: for Michelle with the electric lunch at noon. Have a

3454
02:44:14,480 --> 02:44:15,400
Speaker 1: great day, I ever rebot it.

3455
02:44:16,480 --> 02:44:20,000
Speaker 3: I'm finished. You say, classy Pittsburgh, don't touch your face.

3456
02:44:20,160 --> 02:44:22,440
Speaker 1: I got him touchday baby.

3457
02:44:22,520 --> 02:44:24,039
Speaker 3: So now you gotta call me Ronald?

3458
02:44:24,080 --> 02:44:25,240
Speaker 6: Would you not eat my pants?

3459
02:44:25,440 --> 02:44:32,400
Speaker 3: Ronald? Oh? Why google it?

3460
02:44:36,560 --> 02:44:39,720
Speaker 1: At FNB, we rewrote the rules of banking, and they'd

3461
02:44:39,760 --> 02:44:41,520
Speaker 1: getting everything you need, a whole lot of