Speaker 1: Do you want to be an American idiot?
Speaker 2: If you're a pet owner an animal lover, I have
Speaker 2: a very very important question to ask you, and that
Speaker 2: is what do you feed your dog?
Speaker 1: What do you feed your cat?
Speaker 2: We are inundated with marketing in America, always have been,
Speaker 2: always will I'm a big proponent of marketing and advertising
Speaker 2: and what was fed to us, like we feed our
Speaker 2: pets as a steady diet of you are a horrible
Speaker 2: abusive pet parent, not pet owner pet parent unless you
Speaker 2: have someone like Guy Fiertti in a kitchen chopping up organic,
Speaker 2: fair trade, free range, ethically sourced, pesticide free, GMO, missing preservative, absent,
Speaker 2: carbon neutral, gluten free dog or cat food. If you
Speaker 2: don't feed your dog or cat that you are an abuser.
Speaker 2: Doug Hoffman is a doctor, a veterinary medicine and a
Speaker 2: cute pet here in Cincinnati. Yes or no, Doug Hoffman
Speaker 2: tell the truth? So help you God? Is it necessary?
Speaker 1: No? So Scott's good to be here. How are you, buddy? Goodness?
Speaker 1: See right? Great questions?
Speaker 2: Been a minute since my buddy Doug's been on the show,
Speaker 2: And and now you know why, because he's going, what's
Speaker 2: this guy? Going with this right now? What's what's happening? No,
Speaker 2: I you know it's it's like, you want to do
Speaker 2: best by your pets and you really need do they
Speaker 2: really need organic peas?
Speaker 1: You do want to do the best by your pets,
Speaker 1: There's no question about it. But the key, the biggest
Speaker 1: key with dog food and pet food. I don't care
Speaker 1: where it's cat food, dog food, whatever his consistency. The
Speaker 1: mistake people make a lot of times is feeding a
Speaker 1: variety of things. They don't do as well as we
Speaker 1: do with a variety of foods. The other thing, too,
Speaker 1: is all the vegetables, all of that type of thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, dogs are carnivores. Cats are carnivores. They do
Speaker 1: better with meat based products. They do. They put a
Speaker 1: lot of the other thing and corn meal, different things
Speaker 1: like that for forfiller, but a lot of your dry foods.
Speaker 1: Like I have a great dame. I feed him one
Speaker 1: food all the time, and you're a doctor. Occasionally occasionally
Speaker 1: I'll give him the crust off of a pizza, pizza,
Speaker 1: I sauce, no nothing. He loves it. It's the greatest
Speaker 1: thing in the world. Nuts, a little piece of cheese
Speaker 1: every once in a while, he does great, and he's
Speaker 1: done great, and they don't have diarrhea, they don't have vomiting,
Speaker 1: they don't have all these problems, and they're not overweight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know that's that's the key with this.
Speaker 1: If you do a lot of this, I mean, they
Speaker 1: love it, but that's more us making ourselves feel better
Speaker 1: about what we're feeding them than what they really need.
Speaker 1: A lot of the foods out there are very nutritionally
Speaker 1: well bound. They're made to feed them the same thing
Speaker 1: all of the time. It may be boring because we.
Speaker 2: Think, oh, I want to have Chinese to that, I
Speaker 2: don't have Korean.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a dog all the time, none of that.
Speaker 2: The other thing about it, you'd feed your dog all
Speaker 2: this stuff and then they'll go need a dead squirrel.
Speaker 1: So yeah, right, I mean, there's not a pickiness with
Speaker 1: any eating poop. Let's just call it what it is,
Speaker 1: not exactly other than like carrots or broccoli or I
Speaker 1: can't get my dog eat any of that, but I
Speaker 1: don't feed it that, So it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter it's lead. If there's some butter on it,
Speaker 2: they'd probably just crush a carrot, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would. They'll eat anything. I mean I had
Speaker 1: when I was an emergency. I had a dog come
Speaker 1: in on emergency because this was a Thanksgiving. Somebody had
Speaker 1: done one of the you know, roasted the turkey outside,
Speaker 1: had all the juices and poured it out on their
Speaker 1: decorative stone to get rid of it. And the dog
Speaker 1: ate all of the stones, ate the rocks, the rocks,
Speaker 1: the whole thing came in, took an X ray. His
Speaker 1: entire stomach was filled with stones. Didn't lick them, ate
Speaker 1: the rocks. So they're not picky. They'll eat whatever.
Speaker 2: They're also not particularly bright. They get sick on chocolate
Speaker 2: and grapes and they'd crush them chocolate grapes like chocolate
Speaker 2: dug grapes.
Speaker 1: I think we're great. Well, that's you know, that's where
Speaker 1: the variety of stuff comes in, is it can become dangerous.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the pets are sensitive to things
Speaker 1: that we're not sensitive to. So yeah, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: you're safe with with the standard dog food and it's
Speaker 1: a good quality food. Yeah, a good quality food. Stay
Speaker 1: away from the generics.
Speaker 2: What about cats, because they see the ones I've seen
Speaker 2: is like they tend to like their their dinner on
Speaker 2: crystal with like a it's got like I don't know,
Speaker 2: some sort of reduction, vial reduction on it or something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they just sit there and they eat.
Speaker 2: It out of crystal like a water Is it the
Speaker 2: Waterford crystal that the cats eat out of?
Speaker 1: Is that? What does it for them? That's that's I
Speaker 1: think says a lot more about the owner than it
Speaker 1: does about correct.
Speaker 2: Yes, because you don't care about your pet unless you're
Speaker 2: spending stupid amounts of money trying to feed them. I'm
Speaker 2: glad you, Doug Hoffman. I'm glad you cleared that for us.
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to ask that question of a veterinarian
Speaker 2: because you know, I'm about I'm about the value I
Speaker 2: you know, we love our dog, we take care.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, do I really need Like what's that?
Speaker 1: I understand. We got to start this. We're in the
Speaker 1: wrong business. You know, we had to. We had to here.
Speaker 2: You go, let's convince people and we can teach classes
Speaker 2: and sell products, breastfeed their animals.
Speaker 1: What about that? Let's well that would be right.
Speaker 2: It's like, well, you know the next step. I would
Speaker 2: not either, but I don't know someone would go, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: you should. You should totally breastfeed your cat. What could
Speaker 2: go wrong there? Doug Hoffman is with acute pet here
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati, and uh we we haven't talked in a while,
Speaker 2: I know. And people obviously love their animals, sometimes more
Speaker 2: than family members. I get it because the the affection
Speaker 2: is there for them too. About dogs and cats, longevity
Speaker 2: is a big issue here too. You know, you mentioned
Speaker 2: the food thing. I also think about what exercise is
Speaker 2: very very important for you and dog or the cat
Speaker 2: is a cat?
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I mean I think that's you know, one
Speaker 1: of the best ways to get in shape is get
Speaker 1: a dog, you know, to walk, you know, and and
Speaker 1: I think that's that's key to that type of thing.
Speaker 1: You know, we're big, big fan of, you know, exercising
Speaker 1: our pets and and obviously responsibly, you know. The big
Speaker 1: mistake people make, especially as we're heading out of winter
Speaker 1: into summer, it's going to start getting hot. Yes, be
Speaker 1: careful with your dogs and taking them for long runs
Speaker 1: because you've decided now you're going to get in shape.
Speaker 1: Is not in shape, especially if it's hot, especially if
Speaker 1: they're sort of the smash mouth breaky cephalic dogs.
Speaker 2: Heat stroke is a big, big in the do A.
Speaker 1: Lot of times. You'll see it, oftentimes in the spring
Speaker 1: because when you hit that seventy, all of a sudden
Speaker 1: they're not used to it. And all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: somebody's taken their dog for a four mile run and
Speaker 1: the dog hasn't walked half a mile and three months
Speaker 1: and they can't handle it. And especially the dogs that
Speaker 1: have some of the breathing issues, we see that and
Speaker 1: the heat stroke comes on very quickly. It's very serious,
Speaker 1: one of the most sort of devastating emergencies we see
Speaker 1: because it's sometimes those dogs are hard good.
Speaker 2: Enough well, I mean, think about it. So maybe you're
Speaker 2: training to run, maybe you're going to tank of the pig.
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, well this cold winter, you've been running
Speaker 2: out of a treadmill. Your dog hasn't right. You can't just
Speaker 2: run out, and they're like they've been sedentary this long.
Speaker 2: You got to build them up.
Speaker 1: Really, it's really watching them. You know. The thing that
Speaker 1: we always one of the first signs you'll see with
Speaker 1: the dog is it'll start to he'll sit as you're
Speaker 1: walking them, and everybody's like, come on, come on, get
Speaker 1: in shape. Let's go. Dogs don't sit unless so you know,
Speaker 1: these are little things to watch for. I've been on
Speaker 1: walks at the parks and things and been able to
Speaker 1: predict as I've walked around, which dog I'm going to
Speaker 1: end up seeing is going to be a heat stroke? Okay,
Speaker 1: And it actually happened to me once at Sharon Woods
Speaker 1: and really watched the dog go by, and I said,
Speaker 1: that dog's going to stroke. And when another hundred yards
Speaker 1: and the dogs on the side, actually the guys like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. His temperature was one
Speaker 1: hundred and nine. Oh lord, what so what what it
Speaker 1: was a take it's a seventy five pound dog. Oh,
Speaker 1: we had to pick it up and the haariot he
Speaker 1: had to go run and get his car. Oh god,
Speaker 1: get it to the dog. And he was okay, he
Speaker 1: was not. Dude.
Speaker 2: You just can't drop a dead dog.
Speaker 1: Star.
Speaker 2: There's kids list if people are weeping, right, and it's
Speaker 2: just lie justly Yeah, dogs by, he's the nice farmer.
Speaker 2: What the kind of show is this? Oh that's terrible though.
Speaker 2: It's it's just horrible though.
Speaker 1: Poor guy. Well it was too long. Yeah, so it's
Speaker 1: one of those it's not a great story. But it's
Speaker 1: a story that's real. Like when you're talking about exercising,
Speaker 1: especially this time of the year, it's great to do that.
Speaker 1: Do it in moderation, make sure you're watching it.
Speaker 2: Okay, important too, because then the results can be good.
Speaker 2: Because dog, he's not gonna. Dog is going to go
Speaker 2: until it can't go anymore. It's love life, yeah.
Speaker 1: And there's some that it can go forever and there's
Speaker 1: some that cannot. Okay.
Speaker 2: The other thing too, we see and I've talked to
Speaker 2: Sanjay Shaefercamani or your physician. He comes on Thursday mornings
Speaker 2: and we talk about health and fitness and all these things.
Speaker 2: But I think that it's true with pats as well.
Speaker 2: We talked about nutrition and the like. But people are
Speaker 2: now using doctor Google or shat GPT to answer the
Speaker 2: medical questions and there's some pitfalls with that. I'd imagine
Speaker 2: that's probably true with pet care as well.
Speaker 1: It's I think it's even more with pet care. It's
Speaker 1: becoming very popular with you know, especially with the advent
Speaker 1: of AI and things like that. The problem is they
Speaker 1: can't talk to you. It's one thing if you know
Speaker 1: what your symptoms are and you're telling somebody or looking
Speaker 1: it up and going this is how I feel, this
Speaker 1: is what's going on, this is what's happened to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's another thing to interpret that from a pet, and
Speaker 1: you don't really know what you're looking at, right, so
Speaker 1: you don't necessarily know what's an emergency. For instance, my
Speaker 1: cat is peeing all the time. I think he has
Speaker 1: a urinary track infection. What should I do for a
Speaker 1: urinary track infection when in fact he's peeing all the
Speaker 1: time because he can't pee, yes, and he's blocked. Or
Speaker 1: my great Dane is vomiting. What should I do? Okay
Speaker 1: withhold food? Wait, okay, he's not actually vomiting. He's he's
Speaker 1: gagging because he can't vomit because he's bloated, and it
Speaker 1: should have been a surgical emergence. So there's different things
Speaker 1: out there that that people just don't know because it's just.
Speaker 2: Can't and other patch too for that matter, and keeping
Speaker 2: them on dogs, but you can't yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, because you know that's what happens. We see a
Speaker 1: lot of there's a lot of things that can be
Speaker 1: really serious that somebody can say, well, you know, and
Speaker 1: that's why, like you know, all of our hospitals were
Speaker 1: very cautious with our front desk people to say, listen,
Speaker 1: you know, try not to give advice over the phone
Speaker 1: because you don't know. You can't see it and they
Speaker 1: can't see it, and it's sort of like listen to
Speaker 1: you know, it's your bait. It's like a pediatrician, you know,
Speaker 1: you can't talk to you. So you have to really
Speaker 1: do a good physical exam and see what's going on,
Speaker 1: not just hear about it from somebody else.
Speaker 2: Doug Hoffman, doctor veter a veterinary medicine on the show
Speaker 2: here on seven hundred w al who started talking about
Speaker 2: saving money whether you or not need to feed your
Speaker 2: dog these bougie foods and the answer of courses or
Speaker 2: cats for that matter, I'm kibbles, fine, don't change it up,
Speaker 2: don't go from brand to brand. And what about like
Speaker 2: if I wanted beef versus chicken, the same thing. If
Speaker 2: I if it's beef and sweet potato, keep it beef and.
Speaker 1: Really just consistently. Okay, it's not that one is better
Speaker 1: than the other, it's just don't switch it up all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 2: That's what causes And also table scraps too. Although my
Speaker 2: dog will cry and cry and cry. If he can't
Speaker 2: lick the bowl, he's he's the best. So we have
Speaker 2: the pot scrubber mode on your dish or soer, don't
Speaker 2: do that. Just get an animal and put the bowl
Speaker 2: down and let them clean well.
Speaker 1: And it's one thing if you give your pet food scraps,
Speaker 1: like you give it a little piece of baked chicken.
Speaker 1: Don't give it steak, don't give it pork. These are
Speaker 1: things pancreatitis. Oh well, okay, good all. You'll have to
Speaker 1: be sensitive to it, not as much as.
Speaker 2: You may have to break the news to band it
Speaker 2: because he's not going to take this well that he
Speaker 2: should not be licking the bulls clean. But well, the
Speaker 2: fall of that habit, I guess, I don't know. So
Speaker 2: he seems to be doing okay, he's fine, he's fine.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: One of the other elements here too a pet care
Speaker 2: and this is your business in any Q pet is
Speaker 2: is it seems like it's getting it's getting everything to
Speaker 2: get more expensive with inflation and a light too, But
Speaker 2: it seems like in pet care too, the prices are
Speaker 2: going up.
Speaker 1: They are, and you know, I think that's one of
Speaker 1: the biggest issues in veterinarian medicine right now? Is is
Speaker 1: care becoming unaffordable? Yeah, you know, because insurance still only
Speaker 1: accounts for maybe three to four percent of the pet population.
Speaker 1: So it would be great if everybody could do that.
Speaker 1: But even the pet insurance companies are seeing, okay, well
Speaker 1: this is expensive, yes, right, their rates you know, what
Speaker 1: used to be unable have become you know, difficult to
Speaker 1: do every month for some people, right, And and that's
Speaker 1: a real problem for you know, taking care of these
Speaker 1: pets of the way people want to take care of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, I came from a business that did
Speaker 1: you know, could do everything. I mean, you know, my
Speaker 1: old hospital, I was one of the first ones to
Speaker 1: bring stereotactic radio surgery to veterinary medicine and cancer treatment.
Speaker 1: That's great for a certain amount of people that can
Speaker 1: do that. It's great that we can. The question is,
Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't mean that we always should because
Speaker 1: sometimes people just can't afford this. So what are other
Speaker 1: treatments that we can do to at least help as
Speaker 1: much as we can, or figure out ways to bring
Speaker 1: costs down in some way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a challenge of human medicine as well
Speaker 2: as the veterinary medicine as well too.
Speaker 1: Cost everything seems to be.
Speaker 2: But I would say, you know, if you introduced insurance
Speaker 2: into it, like people, isn't that going to inflate the
Speaker 2: cost even more if someone else is paying for it?
Speaker 1: Well, I you know, at veterinary medicine, I think one
Speaker 1: of the reasons that you see that on the human side.
Speaker 1: You know, my wife is an internist on the human side,
Speaker 1: and you saw this with insurance that some of the
Speaker 1: issues with that is that costs are so high, not
Speaker 1: because of insuran, but because of the threat of being sued,
Speaker 1: right because of you know, without tort reform. It's hard
Speaker 1: and I don't want to get into good content. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all different, but we don't see that on the
Speaker 1: codinary side. So you know, we're just trying to get
Speaker 1: people to take care of their pets as best they can.
Speaker 1: Thank goodness, many many people said just what you said.
Speaker 1: They treat them as family. But it's still expensive no
Speaker 1: matter how much you love your pet. Sometimes you know,
Speaker 1: these thousand, two thousand and five thousand dollars bills.
Speaker 2: You can't afford that, And sadly the alternative is like, well,
Speaker 2: we've got to put our pet down, and that's the
Speaker 2: most tragic thing of all because of money. So I
Speaker 2: know you guys are acute to pet. You're keeping the costs.
Speaker 1: And that's our goal, I mean is emergent care. You know,
Speaker 1: we're sort of that in between you know, general practice
Speaker 1: that you know is doing you know, the vaccines and
Speaker 1: dentals and boring and all of the things that are
Speaker 1: sort of primary care and the twenty four hours specialty emergency.
Speaker 1: We sort of fit in between that the emergencies that
Speaker 1: are emergencies to the client a lot of times, you know,
Speaker 1: the ear infection, the laceration, of sudden limping. We're there.
Speaker 1: And the goal that we had with this company was
Speaker 1: be there to treat them when they need it, because
Speaker 1: it's sometimes it's hard to get into your family vet.
Speaker 1: Sometimes there's really long waits at the special hospitals. But
Speaker 1: also make it so that people can afford this and
Speaker 1: get in and be treated and not have this be
Speaker 1: something that sort of deters them from the other treatments
Speaker 1: their pet may need. Yeah, exactly exact, because we don't
Speaker 1: want somebody to have an emergency and now they can't
Speaker 1: get heartworm prepetitive for their pet or they can't get
Speaker 1: vaccines or something like that.
Speaker 2: All right, So to keep it, you guys are on
Speaker 2: top of Hille Road, Westchester.
Speaker 1: We are. We have locations in Westchester. We have location
Speaker 1: in Beaver Creek up in Dayton, We have one in Bellevue, Kentucky.
Speaker 1: And we have other ones in in Cleveland and a
Speaker 1: couple actually in South Carolina.
Speaker 2: It's pretty gro in practice. Congratulations, Thank you. You guys
Speaker 2: would be like Starbucks pretty soon.
Speaker 1: Well and have that would be uh, that would at yeah,
Speaker 1: but no, it was it's you know, one of the
Speaker 1: goals was is we wanted to do more than just
Speaker 1: one in one location. We wanted to try and be,
Speaker 1: you know, have a little bit of mass to this
Speaker 1: and that you know, we can you know, help not
Speaker 1: just the clients and the pets, but also help the
Speaker 1: veterinarians that work for us and the staff have you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully have veterinarian veterinary medicine be fun again. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think there's a little bit of that's that's getting lost
Speaker 1: in the mix.
Speaker 2: I hear that in the in the human and it's
Speaker 2: it's all about numbers and.
Speaker 1: Well it's hard. It's hard. It's just doing what we
Speaker 1: were talking about, trying to treat a pet and and
Speaker 1: then giving them an estimate and they go, I can't
Speaker 1: do it. And now you know, there's just there's there's
Speaker 1: where medicine is just not fun because you certainly don't
Speaker 1: want to be in a situation where you have to
Speaker 1: choose your pet's life over your pets treatment. Are you getting?
Speaker 1: You know people there, people have emergencies people, So you know,
Speaker 1: we're trying to maybe maybe change that model a little bit.
Speaker 1: So I love it. That's good.
Speaker 2: Look human touch and you know they but cast conscious
Speaker 2: not a bad but it's like, hey, you know we
Speaker 2: we we're trying to keep everything down for everybody because
Speaker 2: life is expensive. Doug Hoffman is team. You're looking for
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Speaker 1: Is there? Anymily want you? What about a giraffe? I
Speaker 1: brought a giraffe and have to go to Giraffes Toys.
Speaker 2: R us is close so we can't even do that anymore.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 2: It's a cute pet on in Westchester on Tellers the Road.
Speaker 1: What's the website? It's a cutepet urgentcare dot com.
Speaker 2: All right, doctor Doug and Jess and Steph, thanks for
Speaker 2: coming in this morning. A cute pet is the place
Speaker 2: answering the tough question here. Do you really need to
Speaker 2: feed your dog or cat all that fresh stuff? The
Speaker 2: answer is no. Decent kibble will be just fine. The
Speaker 2: reason they put vegetables in those things, it's more about
Speaker 2: you than it is the dog. Dog doesn't need that.
Speaker 2: You need that to make you feel better about your self,
Speaker 2: So don't know the guilt trip. You don't need any
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