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Speaker 2: WXDXSM Pittsburgh excellent.

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Speaker 3: Listen on the free iHeart Radio app for all your

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Speaker 1: Free never sounded so good.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's call the role. It's the role call, it's

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Speaker 3: tackle or replace alt who got hurt Jacksonville got Jakobe Myers,

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Speaker 3: Baltimore got a linebacker. All these teams that are in

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Speaker 3: the AFC playoff picture got better. The Steelers did zilch.

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Speaker 3: The Steelers stood pat and they're not good enough. They

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Speaker 3: Burrow getting hurt, Jackson getting hurt since he being just

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Speaker 3: that's what it takes to make a playoff run, and

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Speaker 3: adding Jakobe Myers wouldn't guaranteed that or at least made

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Speaker 3: the Steelers doing nothing makes you realize the Steelers don't

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Speaker 3: care one hundred percent about winning, not like they say

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Speaker 3: the Steelers want to finish five hundred or better and

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Speaker 3: make every game meaningful because that's where the money is.

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Speaker 3: It's not about winning a super Bowl, if it were,

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Speaker 3: because they're supposed to be all in with a bunch

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Speaker 4: Now. By contrast, in the twenty nineteen season, Ben.

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Speaker 3: Pops' elbow in Week two, the Steelers are zero and two. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so that season's over and they know it's you're not

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Speaker 3: gonna win playoff games with Rudolph and Duck at quarterback.

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Speaker 4: You're just not. But they trade a.

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Speaker 3: First round pick for Mincup because you want to finish

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Speaker 3: it would have been better to tank and get Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 3: Think about that, and here we are six years later,

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Speaker 4: They could have got him then, should have got him.

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Speaker 3: Then the Steelers did more to finish five hundred in

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Speaker 4: Big move in no move. Now, think about that.

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Speaker 3: win the division. Those teams got better yesterday and the

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Speaker 3: Steelers did not think about that. This is the Mark

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Speaker 3: Madden Show. I was watching the local news this morning

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Speaker 3: on Twitter at Mark Madden X. I mean, how much

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Speaker 3: good have the Steelers done by keeping their draft picks

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Speaker 4: Let me refresh your memory.

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Speaker 3: They've not won a playoff game in one, two, three, four, five, six,

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Speaker 4: But you still think they do everything correctly.

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Speaker 3: And boy, the guys under the tent, it took him

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Speaker 4: You know, trade your draft picks. That's not what the

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Speaker 3: If they were all in, And now they're denying that

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Speaker 3: they're all in, even with a roster that might turn

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Speaker 3: You don't win with guys like Pickens. But if you're

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Speaker 3: It wasn't the Rosavilla. You old guys from the North Side.

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Speaker 3: You remember the Rosavilla. That place was all right. Now

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Speaker 3: stood pat Maybe aren't Rooney the second didn't want to

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Speaker 3: And if that's true that show biz prioritized over football,

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Speaker 3: Bottom line, the Steelers needed to get better yesterday and

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Speaker 3: have got myrs for sure. Somebody listed all the fourth

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Speaker 3: a lot longer. Do you want to win or don't

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Speaker 4: Not really.

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Speaker 3: The Penguins they made some moves a Charie Brazo and

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Speaker 3: Jari went on ir. I think Jari hurt his neck

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Speaker 3: when he whipped it around to watch the puck go in.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the Penguins are hypnotized by the eight and fourth start.

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Speaker 3: excited to see Marischef. I hope he starts tomorrow night

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Speaker 3: at home against Washington. Morishov against Ovechkin. It's like Glennon

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Speaker 3: versus Marx with Ovie at eight hundred and ninety nine goals. Wow,

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Speaker 3: I'd announced it. Morrishaw starting, I'd have announced it already.

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Speaker 3: Get the word out, sell some tickets to see Tretch

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Speaker 3: has not sure if he's gonna play tomorrow night or not,

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's okay with more shoft and clearly again it's

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Speaker 3: It's more than the Steelers did or tried on the

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Speaker 3: Why because nobody will ever trust him again, Not the fans,

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Speaker 3: Ain't nobody ever gonna trust them again. Should have been

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Speaker 3: gone right then and there. But with the Steelers, hey,

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Speaker 3: things are looking up. They beat the Colts. High Smith

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Speaker 4: Tom.

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Speaker 3: I can't get over the Steelers doing nothing at the

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Speaker 3: And I also can't get over how quickly the usual

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just hate seeing the price tag that was

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Speaker 4: Your season's over. If DK gets.

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Speaker 1: Hurt, that's the big thing. Oh, the biggest thing, and

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Speaker 1: that's still hanging over them like a cloud, is if

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd give it up a third and a sixth

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Speaker 3: Minke in twenty ninth with Ben Ott and when the

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Speaker 3: season could not be saved? And now when the Steelers

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Speaker 1: And that was giving up a first round pick. That

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Speaker 3: Duckstaposed to that Minka trade. Not doing anything now makes

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Speaker 3: zero sense. And I know that wasn't it the deadline,

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Speaker 3: but you know what did it do?

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Speaker 4: Really?

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Speaker 3: I mean Nka had three good seasons here, three first

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Speaker 3: team All Pro seasons, but he never won a playoff game.

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Speaker 1: Correct? And again, I mean you went out.

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Speaker 3: And got Mika Fitzpatrick to support Duck Hodges, and you

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Speaker 3: wouldn't go out and get Jakobe Myers at a much

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Speaker 3: lesser price to prop up Aaron.

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Speaker 1: That probably tells you they think Danny Dimes is it huh,

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Speaker 3: Getting Mars at that price has to be nut so

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Speaker 3: and Seattle got that wide out for New Orleans Shaheed,

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Speaker 3: He's okay, he can go deep with these stats Tom

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Speaker 4: Those numbers would make him the Steelers leading receiver.

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Speaker 3: Probably if you told me I could make the Gardener

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Speaker 4: You don't get to go to the podium and say, Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: But if you come to me and take that side

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Speaker 3: What's the locker room thinking about the Steelers doing nothing?

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Speaker 4: They never use those words. That's what the stooges are saying.

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Speaker 3: Well, when you go get Rogers and DK and Ramsey

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Speaker 3: Darius Slay who sucks, but you got him, you're all in.

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Speaker 1: Does that ever really even happen? Like, do they ever

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Pickens.

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Speaker 3: With Ovi sitting on six hundred ninety nine, he's scored

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Speaker 3: faster than I can at them up. Yeah, eight hundred

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Speaker 1: I was just always worried that you call him up

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Speaker 3: Well, they're calling him out out of need because Jari's

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Speaker 4: But then again, if they lose, he'll have to break

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a great idea. I think they

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Speaker 3: And again I'm not blasting that they brought up Morrischoff

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Speaker 1: I like that Heinen coming up allows Kindle to skate

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Speaker 3: It would have been it would have been Bros on

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Speaker 1: Every sport pretty much, even if that means you're not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know that you're cheating hockey by

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Speaker 3: am really excited about that. I still think his long

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Speaker 4: No offense, Brownie if you're listening.

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Speaker 3: But Mario and Brownie thought the game the same and

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Speaker 3: it made up for Brownie's lack of speed, whereas Kendall

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Speaker 1: Well, hopefully this will have Kindle collecting his fair share

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Speaker 3: Too much preconceived about Shaffer because of it, Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: He's amazing, He's pretty good. Yeah, I can pretty shuld

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Speaker 3: By the way, I should take the time to salute

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Speaker 3: Robbie Brown one hundred and fifteen points playing on Mario's wing.

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Speaker 1: Cash money like that. I'm rich, rich, rich, listen all

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Speaker 3: It is amazing how the stooges are backing the Steelers.

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Speaker 4: Doing nothing, but I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 3: Gotta try to get I mean, Dale Ally passed and

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Speaker 4: You know why they don't talk about it. It's not

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Speaker 3: And then some basics, run the ball better and don't

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Speaker 3: Played his best game in a long time, playing a

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Speaker 1: dictates that he could get to the top five one day.

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Speaker 1: He just hasn't really been able to like put it

436
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Speaker 1: all together, you know what I mean, likes.

437
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Speaker 4: Sure have they around his behalf.

438
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Speaker 1: Yeah around y gott into the playoffs a couple of times,

439
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Speaker 1: but has really turned in some crappy playoff performances once

440
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Speaker 1: he's gotten there, I mean, just awful ones. So I

441
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Speaker 1: don't know. He was probably like number nine, number ten

442
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Speaker 1: as far as the quarterback. I know this. He torched

443
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Speaker 1: the Steelers the last time they went out to LA.

444
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: They played him last year, but he was hurt in

445
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Speaker 1: that game. He didn't make it through the game. But

446
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Speaker 1: when they went to LA, he rushed for ninety yards

447
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Speaker 1: on nine carries, and he threw for over four hundred

448
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Speaker 1: yards too. Just tore him apart.

449
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Speaker 3: He's inconsistent, but he's a guy where that's not necessarily

450
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Speaker 3: this damning tag. Like I would say sixty percent of

451
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Speaker 3: the time he's real good, maybe two thirds at a time,

452
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Speaker 3: and the rest of the time he don't.

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Speaker 1: Suck, you know. And he for the interceptions that he throws,

454
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Speaker 1: Like you look at his stat lines and it's always

455
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Speaker 1: like four hundred yards passing, four touchdowns and two interceptions.

456
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Speaker 1: I just think dude likes to just throw the ball

457
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Speaker 1: around the yard and is willing to kind of push

458
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Speaker 1: the envelope sometimes and he gets bitten for it.

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Speaker 3: I missed the days when you could throw an interception

460
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Speaker 3: and it wasn't treated like you gave five people syphilis. Okay,

461
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Speaker 3: you have to dare to accomplish, you know, as Bruce

462
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Speaker 3: Arians always says, no.

463
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Speaker 4: Risk it, no biscuit.

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Speaker 3: I don't think a turnover is a big deal if

465
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Speaker 3: you're making a lot more plays than turnovers. And I

466
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Speaker 3: think Harbor and not just you know, in the flat,

467
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Speaker 3: not just that dinking duck.

468
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Speaker 4: I'm talking about making plays.

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Speaker 1: I think Harbaugh's is in that line of thinking too.

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Speaker 1: When it comes to Herbert, like, I don't get the

471
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Speaker 1: sense that he's willing or that he's feeling like he

472
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Speaker 1: needs to, you know, cut back on him because he

473
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Speaker 1: turns the ball over too much. He's just letting Herbert

474
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Speaker 1: be Herbert. How about Herbert three hundred and five rushing yards.

475
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Speaker 1: I know he's awesome at that's.

476
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Speaker 3: Deceptive, and again people don't recognize it, not because he's white,

477
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Speaker 3: but because he isn't black.

478
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Speaker 4: How About here's some more stats.

479
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Speaker 3: The Chargers have two receivers with more yards than metcalf

480
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Speaker 3: and two more with just a few like ten.

481
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Speaker 4: Yards less than Metcalf.

482
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Speaker 3: The Steelers so lack at receiver and so aren't getting

483
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Speaker 3: enough out of.

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Speaker 1: DK and the Chargers, Yeah, they have just a ton

485
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Speaker 1: of weapons at that receiver position, Lad McConkie Quintin Johnson.

486
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Speaker 1: Johnson's really coming on this year. Keenan Allen's having a

487
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Speaker 1: late revival of his career going back to LA and

488
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Speaker 1: playing for the Chargers. And then you got the rookie

489
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Speaker 1: tight end Ronde Gatson. But they've kind of been centering

490
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Speaker 1: their passing game around the previous couple of weeks. He's

491
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Speaker 1: been like getting route shares with like ninety one and

492
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Speaker 1: eighty eight percent, So he's a big threat. Their two

493
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Speaker 1: starting running backs go down the rookie of Mario Hampton

494
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Speaker 1: and Naji Harris. This is Vidal guy comes in and

495
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Speaker 1: he's still running the ball effectively. Like the offense has

496
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Speaker 1: a ton going for it except for their tackles being

497
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Speaker 1: out And that's the biggest key.

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Speaker 4: I think I got to interject.

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Speaker 3: We're watching this game here on the big screen in

500
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Speaker 3: the studio Chelsea and Klara bag who are in Azerbaijan. Yeah,

501
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,959
Speaker 3: and like it's tied to two, which would be a

502
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Speaker 3: big result for the team from Azerbaijan. And like when

503
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Speaker 3: you're over there, like in this third world nation, and

504
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Speaker 3: then you leave the stadium after a bad result and

505
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 3: you see the kids like all bagan for food, Like

506
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Speaker 3: it's got to be depressing.

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Speaker 4: Or like being in New York.

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Speaker 1: I'm always so amazed when I'm watching these Champions League

509
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Speaker 1: games with you and.

510
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Speaker 4: The punchline work, or like being in New York.

511
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Speaker 1: Like where at Azerbaijan right now? S name's packed, Mark,

512
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Speaker 1: I mean there's like thirty thousand people there. They're all

513
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Speaker 1: foaming at the mouth. Like that's everywhere I watch these games.

514
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Speaker 1: There was a.

515
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Speaker 4: Piece of brand.

516
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Speaker 3: Now now getting back to the Steelers Chargers, I feel

517
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Speaker 3: like it's a game where the Steelers have put themselves

518
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Speaker 3: on the line. Tom. I think when you don't do

519
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Speaker 3: nothing and you did just beat Indy, you're saying we're

520
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Speaker 3: good enough, Okay, so go out there and be good enough. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think they have to beat the Chargers. You know,

522
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Speaker 1: we kind of were predicting that they would get to

523
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Speaker 1: this point and this would be such a swing game

524
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Speaker 1: for their season. But remember we thought it was going

525
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Speaker 1: to be the Packers was gonna be that typical Tomlin

526
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Speaker 1: bounce back game, right and then they'd lose to Indy

527
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Speaker 1: and then it was all gonna come down to the Chargers.

528
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Speaker 1: So we're still at that same point right now. We

529
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Speaker 1: just got there in such a weird way that we

530
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Speaker 1: never saw coming. It's going to come down to I

531
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Speaker 1: think winning the division or not. I don't want to

532
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 1: sound that dramatic, but what happens in LA against the Chargers.

533
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Speaker 1: They win that game, they'll win the North, I think,

534
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Speaker 1: or have a very good shot at it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the cushion then will be I mean six and three,

536
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Speaker 3: with the Ravens having at that point less than half

537
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Speaker 3: the season to catch up, it will look daunting to them.

538
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Speaker 4: Then again, Baltimore does play Pittsburgh twice.

539
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Speaker 1: You get to six and three two, you'll probably be favored.

540
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Speaker 1: And I know that doesn't mean you'll win these games,

541
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: but you'll be favored again since he at home. Maybe

542
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: a slight favorite, slight underdog on the road against the

543
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Speaker 1: Bears on Monday Night, but you're looking at a real

544
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Speaker 1: shot at being eight and three before the Bills. You

545
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Speaker 1: get Bills, then you get Ravens. Eight and three before

546
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: that stretch it'd be really really hard to blow the North,

547
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: but then they did it last year.

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Speaker 3: At that kind of point, dude was just kneeling on

549
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 3: the field, Tom praying. I bet he was praying, Please

550
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Speaker 3: don't let me be in Azerbaijan. I'm afraid I've got

551
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Speaker 3: some bad news.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned at the beginning of this segment, some of

553
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Speaker 1: the new stuff they did on the defensive side of

554
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Speaker 1: the ball. Do you think them using that four to

555
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: three kind of helped unlock Peyton Wilson a little bit too?

556
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 1: Maybe he was more comfortable playing with a couple of

557
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: inside linebackers next to him, having Malik Harrison out there,

558
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Speaker 1: because he had his best game ever.

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Speaker 3: That's, oh, by far, his best game ever, and I

560
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 3: thought he got to do more. I thought he didn't

561
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 3: by road. I think they've been in that three four

562
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 3: so much that guys get used to doing the same

563
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 3: thing all the time. And Tom, as it's been said,

564
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 3: creating a bunch of useful tools creates a bunch of

565
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Speaker 3: useless people.

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Speaker 1: But like kind of what you were saying, like we're

567
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Speaker 1: it kind of just frees him up a little bit.

568
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: He getting Malik Harrison out there, don't have to worry

569
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Speaker 1: about the run as much. If I'm Peyton los Sage

570
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: jam fine, right, I mean Jonathan Taylor didn't go bananas.

571
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Speaker 1: Omalie Harrison does his stuff.

572
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Speaker 3: The thing the Steelers defense did, it's not been talked

573
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Speaker 3: about enough because of the what wasn't five sacks and

574
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Speaker 3: then the six takeaways. They tackled a lot better, didn't

575
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Speaker 3: miss a lot of tackles.

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Speaker 4: You know, it was awesome. By the way.

577
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 3: Matt Williamson just Austin period our guru, but he tweets

578
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 3: stuff like he's not an opinions guy, but he finds

579
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 3: stats and facts that just excoriate the Steelers, like the

580
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 3: numbers don't lie and they spell disaster for you at sacrifice.

581
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Speaker 3: Did you know the Steelers tom are first in the

582
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Speaker 3: NFL in three and outs, which despite me thinking Aaron

583
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 3: Rodgers is playing great, that doesn't reflect well, does it.

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Speaker 1: It surprises me to hear that too, because I wouldn't

585
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: think that was the case because I think Aaron Rodgers

586
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: is playing great, But that's terrible to lead the league

587
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Speaker 1: in that, and that has to be a trend for them,

588
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: because I have to imagine last year of the year

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Speaker 1: before that, they were towards the top of the league too.

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Speaker 4: And guess who leads the league in miss tackles.

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh, No, what player? Oh uh? Patrick Queen?

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00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 4: Yep, yep.

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Speaker 1: You can't have your inside linebacker getting the most money

594
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Speaker 1: having the Green Dot lead the league in misstackles.

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Speaker 4: You know what sucks about him though?

596
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Speaker 3: The two games before this one, even the Green Bay game,

597
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 3: which was a loss, he played pretty good the two

598
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 3: games before the Colts game.

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Speaker 4: Oh wait?

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Speaker 1: Or was he bad in the Green Bay gankings? I

601
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: don't think anybody was good in the Green He.

602
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Speaker 3: Played two good games and then went back right to

603
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Speaker 3: be in Patrick Queen?

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Speaker 1: Doesn't he kind of always do that though? And isn't

605
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Speaker 1: that kind of the mark of just maybe an average

606
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Speaker 1: player where he has his good games, but he's never

607
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Speaker 1: going to be able to put it together consistently. By

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Speaker 1: the end of the year. They might need Peyton Wilson

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Speaker 1: to ascend to be that number one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if. I mean, I just don't

611
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Speaker 3: think he's that good. I mean, I think he played better.

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Speaker 3: I'm not think I think you might be right about that.

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Speaker 3: So then that's even more of a reason to put

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Speaker 3: three of them out there, right, to put three inside

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Speaker 3: linebackers on the field more often and stick to that

616
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Speaker 3: four to three. And you want to talk about doing

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Speaker 3: something different, I mean, is there anything more different you

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Speaker 3: could do than shifting from a three to four to

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Speaker 3: a four to three as the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Well, especially going back and forth during the game.

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Speaker 1: I love that too.

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Speaker 3: No, I like, like I said, it pains me to

624
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Speaker 3: say Tomlin did a great job against the Colts. But

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Speaker 3: Tomlin and his bobo Tara Austin, they did a great

626
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Speaker 3: job against the Colts. That defense was not only good,

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Speaker 3: it was inventive and adjusted.

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Speaker 1: Pass to continue though we've seen moments in the past

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Speaker 1: couple of years where they've done inventive things, they've adjusted

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Speaker 1: for a game specifically, and then they kind of go

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Speaker 1: back into the things that they like to do. Moving forward, is.

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Speaker 3: For Sunday at LA, they will go back to doing

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Speaker 1: I got a Steelers trifecta today, Mark, on the defensive

654
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: side of the ball. I got three younger players that

655
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: really need to ascend and almost become order line stars.

656
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: Dare I say, maybe they don't have that ceiling, but

657
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give them to you real quick. I got

658
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: Keanu Benton, Peyton Wilson, and number one is Joey Porter Junior.

659
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: And that's really the one that needs to become a

660
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: star player kind of flirt with being that outside shut

661
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: down corner.

662
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: And the one with the pedigree to do so. Did

663
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 3: you feel Kanu Benton played Okay, you got the.

664
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 4: Sack, ripped the sack.

665
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 3: I know that Colt's offensive line, for as much you know,

666
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: hype as it gets, didn't didn't.

667
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 4: Do so well.

668
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: I think you have to say that that's because the

669
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Speaker 1: Steelers defensive line played well. I know, like you don't

670
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: want to do that, but they did.

671
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 3: And I think maybe their offensive line got crossed up

672
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: by that four to three stuff and the extra extra

673
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 3: inside backer all that stuff.

674
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: Which is why I always hated how vanilla that defense

675
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: has been over the past couple of years, just cause chaos.

676
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 4: Cause we do what we do and let's see if

677
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 4: they can stop us.

678
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: Make it harder on some professionals, you know, make them

679
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: have to think a little bit. Oh they're throwing a

680
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: different look at me. Oh my god, three outside linebackers

681
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: are on the field. Don't just make it. Break the

682
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: huddle and up same old defensive formation as last time.

683
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 3: Uh Tom, I really hope that morishoff plays against OVI

684
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 3: tomorrow night.

685
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 4: I feel like it would be a victory for the proletariat.

686
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: I believe you're right with that, but I think it's

687
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: not gonna happen because that would throw she loss off

688
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: the rotation, and I don't know if Dan Muse is

689
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: going to do that. I think it's gonna be she

690
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: lofts tomorrow, which sucks. I feel like it's just let's

691
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: sell some tickets, I know, and it's just even beyond

692
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: selling the tickets in mus.

693
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Speaker 4: I know he's a by the numbers coach, as he

694
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 4: illustrates by.

695
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 3: Like I said before, he lied about not minding a

696
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: righty righty pair, as witnessed by calling up Ryan Graves.

697
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 4: So he can maintain lefty righty. But you have to

698
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 4: have a sense of the.

699
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 3: Occasion sometime exactly, and like Morrishoff shouldn't make his debut

700
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 3: on the road. Everybody remembers the Flurry debut back when

701
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 3: he lost, but he stopped the penalty shot and you

702
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 3: could tell he was the real thing. You need to

703
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 3: have a sense of the occasion, not just payt inside

704
00:33:58,680 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 3: the lines.

705
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: You're so right, and I so agree with you, and

706
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: he's just not gonna do it. It's gonna be she lost tonight.

707
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: Murrishoff will get the start at twelve thirty on Saturday

708
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: afternoon in New Jersey for his debut, and then it's

709
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: a back to back against the Kings on Sunday back

710
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. She lost, will start that one too.

711
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 3: Have you ever been to Newark? No, it's like playing

712
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 3: an Azerbaijan. Uh yeah, I mean you gotta have a

713
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 3: sense to the occasion. In fact, that's going to be

714
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 3: You know what, I didn't write a list yet tom

715
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 3: It could be mused.

716
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 4: If he doesn't start moreshoff tomorrow.

717
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: It would just feel like such a tease to have

718
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: him to get that news yesterday that he's coming up,

719
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: all that excitement. You have a day off today to

720
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: kind of talk it up, build it up. That's why

721
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: you're like, you're right. They should have announced that he's

722
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: gonna start against Washington when they made the call up,

723
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: so we could be talking about it through that lens

724
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: and drive that kind of like ticket sale thing going on.

725
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: But well, the Missunday, the new mayor of Pittsburgh, Kyle

726
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 3: Dubas and Muse, and I think they're excellent at what

727
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 3: they do.

728
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 4: They have no sense of showbiz whatsoever.

729
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 3: You got the Steelers owner doing the dumb thing, not

730
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 3: trading picks because he wants to go to the Ponty

731
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 3: him at the draft in Pittsburgh next day would say,

732
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 3: with pick number YadA, YadA, the Steelers select, and the

733
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: whole crowd roars, he's terrible talents flying, Yeah, right right,

734
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 3: He'd rather get that moment than the moment of winning.

735
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 4: A playoff game.

736
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: I really hope you're not right about that. You think

737
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: you are. You think that's part of the motivation here.

738
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 4: Don't you think there's an element of that at least.

739
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 1: I'm worried that there's a chance, because that's so Jerry Jones, right.

740
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: I mean, that's right up with Jerry Jones type of alley.

741
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: That's why Jerry Jones. I think he is making these moves.

742
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 4: Size did Jerry Jones trade for when.

743
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: They traded Michah Parsons Quinn Williams.

744
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 4: Quinn Williams the Jet. Yeah.

745
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 3: I criticized that because I don't think they're going anywhere.

746
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 3: But somebody brought up a good point on ESPN this

747
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 3: morning that you know they have him for years to come,

748
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 3: and he's really good.

749
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: He is really good. But I just think Jerry, I mean,

750
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: they shouldn't have traded Micah. Jerry just likes to be

751
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: in the headlines. He's just making these moves to stay

752
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: fresh and in the headlines.

753
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 4: Who's a better impact player, Quinn on or Micah? Oh?

754
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons sure than Quinn Williams. Yeah, Michael Parsons is

755
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: the defensive player of the year right now.

756
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 4: I think you're right.

757
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 3: But I mean, what about quinnin Williams in a I

758
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 3: mean not well, I mean better than the Jets anyway,

759
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 3: a better scenario than he had.

760
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: But look, he's good. He's really good. I think he's

761
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: gonna be great for Dallas. Micah Parsons is just a

762
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: different kind of cat.

763
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: Somebody said on Get Up Today he compared Quinn Williams

764
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 3: to Aaron Donald.

765
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 1: No, too far. I don't even know if Quinn Williams

766
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: is by far the best defensive tackle in the game

767
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: right now. I mean, think about Sexy Dexi who's in

768
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: New York too. I know the Giants think, but Dexter

769
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: Lawrence is great. Cam is actually playing pretty well this year.

770
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: Not to that level like he's used to, but he's

771
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 1: been having a good season.

772
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 3: I Cam credit Camps generally had a good season. After

773
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 3: pissing me off with the hold in where he got

774
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 3: the okie doak. But he did you know, he did

775
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 3: a real good job against the Colts, against against Q

776
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 3: against Nelson.

777
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a great guard.

778
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 3: But you know what, I love when Camp has the

779
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 3: interviews after the game, because he just looks like this sweaty,

780
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 3: warn out old guy's just exhausted, like like he just

781
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 3: cut the lawn in August and I wanted the kids

782
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 3: to get the frig off it. But he still has

783
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 3: that old man's strength and he's determined. I give him that.

784
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 3: I give Caim credit words due always have. Yes, I

785
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 3: just don't think he's covered himself in not glory. What's

786
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 3: sort of looking for common sense with the way he's

787
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 3: handled some things.

788
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: If he didn't have that turbulent moment of the contract

789
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: issue during training camp, I think we'd be looking at

790
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,959
Speaker 1: him in the light of another phenomenal season. This guy's

791
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: kind of an ageless wonder at that position. Uh, But

792
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: that off field kind of distraction just soured people on

793
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: him a little bit. I think I bet he's been fantastic.

794
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 4: I beta in the second bet to make thirty eight.

795
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: It's a good bet to make. I think that that's possibility,

796
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: and I don't think he's as good as he was

797
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: last year when he was a first team All Pro. Either.

798
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: I think there's kind of been some you know, up

799
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: and down nature to his play, but man, he has

800
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: been better than you could have probably imagined the thirty

801
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 1: eight year old would have been. And the batting passes

802
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: is still such a big element to his game. Got

803
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: that tones started against the Colts early in that one.

804
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 3: I think he's actually played to what's left his potential

805
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 3: more than what has more consistently.

806
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that he has been present in more

807
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,959
Speaker 1: games this year. What that was really the first game

808
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: that Watt wrecked against.

809
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 3: Them, the first game that he had major, major impact in.

810
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 3: He had two other pretty good games. So let's say

811
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 3: he had impact in three out of eight so far

812
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 3: major impacted one out of eight.

813
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 4: That's just not enough.

814
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 3: And I would bet he goes to LA and disappears,

815
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 3: even though they're in such flux at tackle that they'll double,

816
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 3: they'll chip, they'll do the things that Indy for some

817
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 3: reason were arrogant enough that they didn't do.

818
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: If he does disappear, if he is taken out by

819
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: the Chargers, then Herbig and Heismith better have monster games

820
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 1: because they're just so bad on the after being a

821
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: AFC defense him. Yeah, I won the defensive Player of

822
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: the week. I'm good.

823
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

824
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 3: I mean, what have you seen about him or even

825
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 3: heard from him that would suggest he's driven?

826
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 1: The consistency isn't there, So that would be a point

827
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: in to what you're saying right there. And he's just

828
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: too injured, way too often. Like he's almost becoming more

829
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: injury prone, if not as injury pune as herbig And

830
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: that's always been the knock on him, and.

831
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 3: They should not have signed him at that length and price,

832
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 3: should not have signed Mooth at that length in that price.

833
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 3: But all the marks that they're all Mooth, Mooth smooth

834
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 3: and Highsmith's dad, he used to be on Twitter. I

835
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 3: probably chased him off. I buried him.

836
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: You did. And see that's why I hope high Smith

837
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: stays healthy obviously and plays well this year because it

838
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: would help the stealer this year, but goes into the

839
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: season after a good second half healthy into the offseason

840
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: because you you gotta trade him. I think that that's

841
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: just such an obvious move to make this offseason, trade

842
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: that contract, get out from under that and just transition

843
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: to herbig and sawyer as kind of being your secondary

844
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: punches to lot.

845
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 4: You know what.

846
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 3: Somebody tweeted me and suggested we do earlier this week, Tom,

847
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 3: remember I referenced the he LEDs up when country song

848
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 3: hot Dog Yeah.

849
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 4: And they said you should play it.

850
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: I've never heard it, and they could go on YouTube,

851
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 3: but I might play it at some point, not now,

852
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 3: but that have.

853
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 4: You heard it?

854
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: I've never heard hot Dog Eye.

855
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 3: It's so good and it's such like, I'm not sure

856
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 3: if it's a good country song or a parody of

857
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 3: a good country song.

858
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: It's just wild that they went into that genre for

859
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: just one song. Just one song was a country song.

860
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, they did the one James Brown song, the Crunch.

861
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 3: Has anybody seen the bridge?

862
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: Never heard that one? Anything?

863
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 4: Where is that confounded bridge? One oh five nine x