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Speaker 1: that Brandon Darby rights. Brandon Darby's been with bright Bart

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Speaker 1: since twenty ten and he focuses on human trafficking and

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Speaker 1: cartel violence down at our southern border and involved with

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Speaker 1: a project along with some other folks called the Cartel Chronicles,

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Speaker 1: which allows well residents of Mexico citizen journalists that are

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Speaker 1: Why do they have to be anonymous because the cartels

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Speaker 1: will kill you, like they have so many people and

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Speaker 1: politicians anybody else that dare speak out against them. Brandon Darby,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Morning Show. It's a real pleasure to

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Speaker 1: have you on today. You're doing an empower youth seminar

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Speaker 1: that's a log in from home convenience seminar for my listeners,

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Speaker 1: Empower You America begins at seven pm. It's good to

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Speaker 1: have you on the program, and congratulations on the great

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Speaker 1: work you've done. I guess you pissed off a lot

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Speaker 1: of Cartel members.

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Speaker 2: Brandon, Yes, thank you for having me on. I'm glad

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Speaker 2: to be here, very happy to be here having my coffee.

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Speaker 2: I'm in Texas right now, so we're about an hour

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Speaker 2: behind you having coffee, and just very happy to be

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Speaker 2: here to share with your listeners what's going on. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're having an empower You seminar tonight at seven pm,

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Speaker 2: and we are going to talk about how our project started,

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Speaker 2: what our project does, and our project as a model

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Speaker 2: for ways of dealing with problems in the world or

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Speaker 2: in our country that seem insurmountable. Because that's what we've done,

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Speaker 2: is we've taken on a group of people who routinely

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Speaker 2: kill journalists, kill everyone who challenged there, and we found

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Speaker 2: a way to successfully challenge them and get Americans caring

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Speaker 2: about this issue, caring about them, and now they're having

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess I'm kind of curious to know. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I've been hearing about cartels in Mexico for a long

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Speaker 1: the cartel world have come up. But is this a

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Speaker 2: Well, the basic gist of it is that when there

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Speaker 2: was always a cartel in Mexico, right, there was one

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Speaker 2: why don't you just sell us the cocaine and we'll

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Speaker 2: That's right? And their families get murdered. There's a segment

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Speaker 2: and they say plateo, oor plomo, and as do you

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Speaker 2: want silver or do you want lead? We can make

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Speaker 2: But so far they have not killed me. So it's

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Speaker 2: and Breitbart is used to walking toward the fire, and

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Speaker 1: Oh, Brandon, without question. And I have to give Breitbart

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Speaker 1: all the props in the world for being one of

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering, is this going to turn into like a

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Speaker 1: into Venezuela, obviously an epicenter of fentanyl and a lot

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, So, so in Mexico everything is for sale.

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Speaker 2: It is true that bad guys, to put it simply right,

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Speaker 2: And that's where I think the US goes with this.

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Speaker 2: You have to remember Mexico is full of a lot

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Speaker 2: want to see change, you know, Mexico is listed as

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Speaker 1: Me back channel communication, government backchannel communications right right now.

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Speaker 2: But not the government as a whole, because the government

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Speaker 2: And so what do you do in that situation? What

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Speaker 2: So that's what's going on. That's where this goes in Mexico.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Mexico turns into Venezuela if we're vigilant,

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Speaker 2: And clearly that's not the case as we all now see.

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Speaker 1: Well, going back very briefly, that is China, I understand,

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Speaker 1: of curious as we part company today, Brandon, are the China.

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Speaker 1: Is China enjoying the benefits of working with these evil

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Speaker 1: the cartels. We love them, and you're welcome to our country.

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Speaker 1: Which direction is this going, Brandon.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that China is getting revenge on the

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Speaker 2: You know, if you have a government like China that

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Speaker 2: controls every facet, monitors every facet within their society, every

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a weapon of war. It's a weapon of war.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, it's degrading us. And that's what China's attempting

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Speaker 1: Brandon Darby will if Donald Trump successfully negotiations and negotiates

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Speaker 2: Temporarily it would until I mean, you have to remember,

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, you could see that right on the horizon there.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Darby join him tonight. It begins at seven pm.

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Speaker 1: Empower Youamerica dot org. The site is currently not down.

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Speaker 1: We had some disruption here locally, we think it's been

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Speaker 1: There's no empower. You live seminar going on, and you

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Speaker 1: Cartel chronicles, and you can thank Brandon Darby and the

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Speaker 1: course helping America at the same time. Brandon, keep up

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Speaker 1: the great work man. I'm really impressed of what you've

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Speaker 1: been able to do there and it's fascinating reading. Thank

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Speaker 1: you my pleasure, Brandon Darby, eight twenty one,