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Speaker 1: host of the fifty five care Morning Show. Hey, early

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Speaker 1: Got to introduce Christopher Smithman and the beautiful home up

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Speaker 1: for Christopher Smithmen. A lot of praise for Christopher good Man.

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Speaker 1: Just appreciate everything he's done for the city and what

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Speaker 1: hopefully to CINCINNTI City Council. Got an option there, and

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Speaker 1: remember the advice from Christopher Smithman. You got to you

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Speaker 1: can vote for nine, don't vote for all nine spots.

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Speaker 1: There aren't nine good candidates running for since I City Council.

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Speaker 1: Least that's my subjective opinion. You draw your own conclusions.

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Speaker 1: Just please do your research. Coming up at the fifty

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Speaker 1: five CARC Morning Show seven oh five with Congressman Warren

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Speaker 1: David said, yes, the government is still shut down. Senate

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Speaker 1: Hamas has agreed to the peace deal. Yes, the one

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Speaker 1: This means that all of the hostages we were released

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Speaker 1: a statement praising Donald Trump for his efforts on this

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Speaker 1: Who among my listening audience think the left is actually

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Speaker 1: Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Cutter announce that the agreement

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Speaker 1: Under the original agreement, AMAS would have to completely disarm

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Speaker 1: So no ramifications for those who engage in hostilities against Israel.

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Speaker 1: Specifics on various aspects of the deal are ambiguous according

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Speaker 2: Hey, good morning, Brian, Hey, welcome to Day nine of freedom.

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Speaker 2: I did the math. I did the math, and it's

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Speaker 2: we are now up to forty eight billion dollars of savings,

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Speaker 2: how about we start bonusing them? How about we go

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Speaker 1: We're paying young people to not commit crimes. That's a

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Speaker 2: money talks, and just like corporate bonuses. If they can

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Speaker 2: keeping their mouths shut, instead of trying to tell government.

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Speaker 2: To tell President Trump, this sounds like something right out

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Speaker 2: cutting the bloat. The first time we've had this opportunity.

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Speaker 3: In a lifetime.

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Speaker 4: You better not do that.

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Speaker 2: Because we'd rather we're we're more concerned about the optics

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Speaker 1: The concern about the optics of who's going to be

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Speaker 2: They're more concerned about that than cutting the size of

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Speaker 2: thirty seven trillion dollar deficit. That's where their priorities are.

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Speaker 2: It is where they're focusing, Isn't that.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that a badge of honor? Jay? Yeah, okay, I'll

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Speaker 1: take the blavor and shut of the government down because

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Speaker 2: That's what That's what I'm sharing. I want trying to

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Speaker 2: we're behind this, Uh, you know, don't shut government down Act.

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Speaker 4: It's like, are you kidding?

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Speaker 2: Were any conservatives left out?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no. That that I think is a good thing.

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Speaker 1: It takes all of the wind out of the whole

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Speaker 1: concept of government shutdowns. There's no harm with the government shutdown.

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Speaker 1: Things remain kind of status quo.

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Speaker 2: This this contract, Yeah, we contain, we continue to fund

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Speaker 4: That's the that's the a little bit.

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Speaker 1: There's no more hostage taking with this shutdown.

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Speaker 3: I'll take it.

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Speaker 2: Take the hostages, you know, I hear about I hear about, Well,

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Speaker 2: these poor people in the federal government. I mean, they

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Speaker 2: for all of us?

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Speaker 1: But the shutdown one.

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Speaker 2: These people in the federal government are coddled adult children

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Speaker 1: I'll concede that point. Considering what's going on at our

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna leave it at that. Jay close up

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Speaker 1: with your statement because we're ount of time.

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Speaker 2: Art, Thank you, and an conclusion. Adult vote Rhino and

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Speaker 2: don't vote Democrat. I really appreciate you giving me the

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Speaker 2: last five Thanks.

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Speaker 1: Jay, appreciate it. That's five twenty seven. If I've seen

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Speaker 1: the station, now's the time you got to reach out

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Speaker 1: Senator Ran Paul. That'll take place at the seven o'clock

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Speaker 1: out Cutter Oswald doing an empower youse seminar on the

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Speaker 1: future of gen Z Conservatism and Jay Rattlift Love Jay

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Speaker 1: for calling this morning as always. Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good morning, and uh yeah love listening to Jay's

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at these two different stories. You got the

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Speaker 3: actual literally people are dying.

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Speaker 1: Literally, I mean people are.

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Speaker 3: let's talk let's talk serious here, and something like that

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Speaker 3: you know what, Okay, enough's enough, because this is actually

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Speaker 3: a lot of these people, if not most of them,

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Speaker 3: Gotta have adults. We gotta have adults. Keep that there.

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Speaker 3: here's some good things you'll get if you do this.

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Speaker 3: You got to hold them to it. People got to

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Speaker 1: Thanks Tom, I appreciate your through talk station and a

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Speaker 1: very happy Friday Eve. Stack is stupid calls are welcome,

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Speaker 1: was from him during the going through the X ray machine.

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Speaker 1: As senior the adjacent image when Fremeer went through the

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Speaker 1: body scammer corrections, workers spotted what they described as a

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Speaker 1: full size thermos inside the detainee's body. You hit the

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Speaker 1: nail on the head there, Joseph, I love the commentary

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Speaker 1: from the smoking gun. Sadly, police records did not include

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Speaker 1: the manufacturer or dimensions of the thermos, which entered Fremeyer's

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Speaker 1: body a day earlier. What Via, according to the pol

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Speaker 1: County Sheriff Grady Judd, quote the exit ramp close quote phrasing. Farmar,

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Speaker 1: described as having a lengthy criminal record, busted Saturday evening

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Speaker 1: by for trespassing on an Amtrak property in winter Haven.

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Speaker 1: Frisk turned to a glass pipe with burned residue consisting

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Speaker 1: of methan fhetamine it. They note in the Affidavid that

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Speaker 1: the Fremeer reportedly admitted to using methan fetamine for the

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Speaker 1: last twenty eight years. What while being taken to jail,

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Speaker 1: allegedly warned an officer, quote if you arrest me, I

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Speaker 1: will find you and kill you close quote. What they

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Speaker 1: reminded him was illegal to make such a thread. He

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Speaker 1: then said, good, I'm going to kill you, so charge

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Speaker 1: meaning charge. Fri Meyer locked up in lieu of a

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Speaker 1: twelve thousand dollars bona two felony and two misdemeanor counts.

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Speaker 1: The thermos was removed from fremeer's ractum at a local hospital,

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Speaker 1: although he has not been charged with trying to smuggle

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Speaker 1: prohibited items into the jail. Is there reminded that South

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Speaker 1: Park episode Joe a couple of them. Ye okay, now

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Speaker 1: you draw your own conclusions on this. Does bad taste

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Speaker 1: allow people to allow police to prosecute you? We go

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Speaker 1: to Kentucky, Stanton, Kentucky, particularly where a guy's facing charges

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Speaker 1: over his Halloween decorations. Stanton, just outside of Lexington, where

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Speaker 1: they say please say. Fifty year old Stephen Markham displayed

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Speaker 1: fake hanging body bags that were labeled quote district judge

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Speaker 1: close quote and another one labeled simply mayor some had

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Speaker 1: ropes around the next Markham charged with intimidation and terroristic threatening.

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Speaker 1: I got a kick out of this. His arraignment postponed

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Speaker 1: after the judge recused himself, and I wonder who the

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Speaker 1: district judge was that he was depicting in his front

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Speaker 1: yard anyway. According to Eddie Barnes, Powell County Judge, execative,

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Speaker 1: if you're going to express yourself, don't do it in

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Speaker 1: a way that could be harmful to others or threatening

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Speaker 1: to others seeing by seeing those hanging up and the

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Speaker 1: representatives marked on them. It's somewhat alarming, but is it

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Speaker 1: ticket worthy. I'm not saying this is done in good taste.

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Speaker 1: But Markham, apparently in dispute with the city over some

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Speaker 1: zoning violations, found to hook up legal utilities, creating what

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Speaker 1: the city called potential fire hasards, sanitations, and health risk

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Speaker 1: at his property, and last month a judge find him

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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty bucks and gave him thirty days

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Speaker 1: to comply. Shortly after that is when he put up

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Speaker 1: the threatening Halloween decorations. I think, while it is in

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Speaker 1: bad taste, I wouldn't recommend anyone doing something like that.

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Speaker 1: I think it's protected. And I made all this swirling

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Speaker 1: anger against political parties back and forth again going back

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Speaker 1: to while it is a bad idea, there may be repercussions.

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Speaker 1: People might judge him based upon the content of his

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Speaker 1: speech and draw conclusions about the content of his character

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Speaker 1: because of what he did. He may suffer as a

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Speaker 1: consequence of what he did. The public at large may

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Speaker 1: reject him. But I don't think what he did is criminal.

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Speaker 1: Five forty five fifty five KR see the talk station

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Carey Fireplace KRC the talk station five fifty fifty

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Speaker 1: five kr CD talk station. It's FRIDAYE. You're going to

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Speaker 1: go over to the phones five one three, seven fifty

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Speaker 1: five eight hundred eight two three talk for a die

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Speaker 1: back of the stackers too. But I've got Karl on

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Speaker 1: the line. Karl, Happy Friday E.

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Speaker 6: Welcome Cappy Friday Eve. Brian Say, on October sixth, you

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Speaker 6: had Judge Christopher McDowell on your radio show and he

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Speaker 6: was speaking about shenanigans at the courthouse. Yes, sir, he

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Speaker 6: was mentioning that a lot of important court cases have

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Speaker 6: been removed from the Clerk of Court's.

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Speaker 1: Website, specifically felony murder cases, not all of them, just

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Speaker 1: some of them, leading him to question how some got

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Speaker 1: removed from the docket, therefore not available for folks like

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Speaker 1: you and I to see, but some didn't. So he's

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Speaker 1: still investigating that. He's issued some directives to find out

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Speaker 1: and uncover the reasons behind that.

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Speaker 6: Yes, well, I performed my own independent investigation yesterday. I

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Speaker 6: went down to the courthouse and I sat in on

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Speaker 6: three cases, and none of the cases were listed in

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Speaker 6: the court index newspaper. And let me explain what the

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Speaker 6: court Index newspaper is to your listeners, that is a

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Speaker 6: newspaper that gets printed daily down there that has all

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Speaker 6: of the activities, all of the cases that are being

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Speaker 6: heard in the courthouse, and there were some pretty interesting cases.

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Speaker 6: I would like to follow up on the cases at

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Speaker 6: some point and find out what the resolutions to these

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Speaker 6: cases are. The one case, Judge Peck had a failure

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Speaker 6: to stop after an accident and the defendant was found

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Speaker 6: not guilty in that case. Judge laid dank Locker had

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Speaker 6: a case where a pizza delivery driver was involved in

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Speaker 6: a fatal car accident. There were eight lawyers in the

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Speaker 6: room for that case. They are seeking a fairly high settlement.

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Speaker 6: Judge Virginia Talent, who happened to be the former assistant

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Speaker 6: city manager, was charging the jury in a felonious assault case. Now,

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Speaker 6: if there are any members of the media who are

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Speaker 6: listening to this this morning, they may want to start

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Speaker 6: covering the courthouse because there's a lot of interesting cases

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Speaker 6: that are occurring.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, down at the courthouse.

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Speaker 1: That was the judge's point. There are some really interesting

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Speaker 1: cases the public might want to know about. But how

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Speaker 1: would the media know about it if it's not in

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Speaker 1: the court docket. That's the boiled down point. I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to know, But you know what, he just

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Speaker 1: revealed a story that mainstream media should or local media

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Speaker 1: should be reporting on. How in the hell is it

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Speaker 1: that cases are not listed on the docket, which is

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Speaker 1: the public record we're entitled to have. Let's start there

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Speaker 1: and then maybe we'll get some reporting on the actual

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Speaker 1: underlying cases themselves. Carl, appreciate it, Thanks for the call,

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Speaker 1: Becker of the stack is stupid. Apparently, minutes after vandalizing

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Speaker 1: seventeen cars in Missouri college parking lot, a nineteen year

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Speaker 1: old sophomore engaged in what they describe as a lengthy

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Speaker 1: chat GPT conversation during which he had confessed to the

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Speaker 1: crime and asked about the possibility of getting caught and wondered, quote,

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Speaker 1: is there any way they could know it was me?

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Speaker 1: He asked out of chat GPT. This according to the

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Speaker 1: probable cause statement issue by the police. The guy, Ryan Schaeffer, arrested,

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Speaker 1: charged with felony property damage and for a rampage Sunday

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Speaker 1: at the Missouri State University parking lot. They led Schaeffer

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Speaker 1: shattered car windows, ripped off side meares Dennenhoods broke windshields

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Speaker 1: all around three am. When confronted with surveillance footage, Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: they have that as well as other evidence, Shaffer said

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Speaker 1: that he could see the resemblance between the suspect and himself.

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Speaker 1: Will thank you, And at that point Schaeffer reportedly consented

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Speaker 1: to a search of his phone. That review of the

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Speaker 1: device revealed the location data putting him at or near

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Speaker 1: this scene of the crime, as well as quote troubling

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Speaker 1: dialogue exchanged. This defendant seems to have had with artificial

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Speaker 1: intelligence software installed on the phone. Idiots doing idiot things

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Speaker 1: because they're idiots, aymen, brother. The chat gept conversation filled

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Speaker 1: with typos they acknowledge open with Schaeffer asking howfforded am

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Speaker 1: I separately asking will I go to jail? He actually

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Speaker 1: spelled a quill I go to jail without the you,

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Speaker 1: but will I think is what he intended and after

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Speaker 1: the AI program quote gave tips about the potential outcome

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Speaker 1: of getting caught or being involved in this kind of behavior.

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Speaker 1: Shaffer type quote what if I smashed the S word

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Speaker 1: out of multiple cars? This is of course all on

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Speaker 1: his cell phone that he gave to police cops, says Shaeffer,

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Speaker 1: began to become aggressive towards chat GP thing, saying I

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Speaker 1: will kill all u f orders. Upon return to the

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Speaker 1: Springfield apartment, Shaffer began to quote wind down a bit,

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Speaker 1: declaring I got away with it last year, and I

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Speaker 1: don't think there's any way they could know my face,

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Speaker 1: adding it felt really nice to f their s word up.

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Speaker 1: This guy should have been a playwright. His eloquence with

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Speaker 1: the English language and grammatical accuracy is just really mind numbing,

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Speaker 1: acknowledging that he warded up all those useless f warders cars,

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Speaker 1: writing also that the victims all deserve to get raped

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Speaker 1: and murdered. Class act. You dumbass, thank you bus out

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Speaker 1: of nowhere, Joe. I appreciate that when fivety six efty

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Speaker 1: five cares to the talk station Plenty to talk about

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Speaker 1: the six o'clock hour, calls are welcome. Then we get

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Speaker 1: the Congress from Ward David sid at seven oh five,

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Speaker 1: followed by Senator Ran Paul at seven thirty. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: who we can stick around for that Today's tough headlines

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Speaker 1: got you're involved in all sides, rather of the Ledger

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Speaker 1: that were involved all the countries that help with negotiations

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Speaker 1: Amas Israel, all specifically mentioning and giving credit to Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: as much as that really angers the left, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure they are pulling their hair out success for Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump in so far as the Middle East piece is concerned,

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Speaker 1: continuing a tradition see the Abraham Accords. You know, I

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Speaker 1: don't put much value on a Nobel Peace Prize anymore,

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Speaker 1: considering Barack Obama got one for doing literally nothing, and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he's not the only one. But can you

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Speaker 1: imagine how angry the Nobel Peace Prize committee would be

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Speaker 1: to have to consider even consider Donald Trump as worthy

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Speaker 1: as he might be for that. Anyway, two years of

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Speaker 1: war in Gazam may very well be coming to a halt.

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Speaker 1: We're going to find out. And you know, I, recognizing

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Speaker 1: who the parties in this agreement are, Hamas terrorist organization

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Speaker 1: in Israel, I can certainly envision this thing falling apart.

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Speaker 1: But a huge positive step in the right direction yesterday

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Speaker 1: with the announcement of well both sides signing off on

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Speaker 1: phase one of this peace plans. Critical to that and

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Speaker 1: I didn't mention in the last hour, but I got

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Speaker 1: to get this in here. Because where the Palestinians were

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Speaker 1: going to go? Where are the residents of Gaza going

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Speaker 1: to go? They're all starving, They're in a war zone.

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Speaker 1: Nobody wanted to open their borders. No one wanted the

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Speaker 1: flood of refugees coming in. But apparently the crossing at

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Speaker 1: Rafa Rafa crossing with Egypt will be open for the

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Speaker 1: purpose of facilitating aid deliveries and allowing for the entry

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Speaker 1: and exit of Palestinians. So that pretty significant hurdle right there,

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Speaker 1: I think probably helped a long way to get this

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Speaker 1: UH Phase one process going Phase two. Question mark Phase

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Speaker 1: three is profit though? Right? Joe five one, three, seven, four,

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Speaker 1: nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two to

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Speaker 1: three talk pound five fifty on AT and T phones

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Speaker 1: real quick here. We want to let you know Congressman

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Speaker 1: Warren Davidson's coming up at seven oh five talk about

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Speaker 1: the government shutdown. Yes, they voted again to keep the

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Speaker 1: government shut down. Thank you Democrats in the Senate. Peace

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Speaker 1: in Israel. We'll talk about Congress with that with Congressman Davidson,

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Speaker 1: followed by Senator Ran Paul on the shutdown, the spying

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Speaker 1: going on in the Senate, talked about that yesterday with

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Speaker 1: Judge Ednapolitano, as well as peace in Israel with Senator

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Speaker 1: Ran Paul. At seven thirty, Hunter Oswald he's runing Power

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Speaker 1: You Seminar. He's going to be talking about the future

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Speaker 1: of jen Z servatism at class I believe take place

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Speaker 1: to ninth. That's tonight at the Empower You Seminars showroom.

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Speaker 1: There are studios there a three hundred Great Oaks Drive

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Speaker 1: in the Great Oaks campus or stream it online. It

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Speaker 1: should be a really good conversation with Hunter. We'll learn

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Speaker 1: about that at eight oh five, and of course Thursdays.

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Speaker 1: Last Friday, Eve I Heart media aviation expert Jay Ratliffe.

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Speaker 1: Some of that else talked about with Judgennen of Poltano

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Speaker 1: and Congressman Thomas Massey. If I think we did talk

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Speaker 1: about with MASSI the subject has come up before, and

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Speaker 1: it's the subject that I agree completely with Napolitano about

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Speaker 1: this whole eminent threat thing about blowing up boats in

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Speaker 1: the Caribbean, thousands of miles away from the US border.

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Speaker 1: We have the authority to launch in wage war indiscriminately,

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Speaker 1: I would argue, the answer apparently is yes, at least

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Speaker 1: as far as the Senate was concerned, yesterday they shot

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Speaker 1: I would argue, as well as elsewhere. See your United

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Speaker 1: party lines, with Lisa Murkowski and yes, Senator Ran Paul

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Speaker 1: he's been doing a lot of late. Senator Ted Cruz

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Speaker 1: didn't vote, took a pass on it. So we've been

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Speaker 1: launching the tax on boats. Have been four of them

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Speaker 1: so far. You've seen the video footage, I presume of it.

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Speaker 1: Out of nowhere, rocket blows a boat up. They're all dead.

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Speaker 1: And Donald Trump goes on television and the screen and

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Speaker 1: just praises the idea that our military blew people up

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Speaker 1: and claiming why he did designate them as a terrorist organization.

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Speaker 1: It's not an imminent threat under any circumstance, I would

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Speaker 1: argue anyway. The White House described the strikes as part

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Speaker 1: of its campaign against these Latin American groups for smuggling

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Speaker 1: fentanyl and cocaine to the US, which of course is deadly.

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Speaker 1: They designated the drug cartels and other groups as foreign

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Speaker 1: they can use lethal force. Now take it out of

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Speaker 1: terrorist organization and justify military force against the United States

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Speaker 1: ones that they identified. That's a dangerous road to go down,

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Speaker 1: particularly given modern military technology, which is readily available to

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Speaker 1: anybody who has an Amazon account. Anyway, the measure was

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Speaker 1: introduced by a couple of Democrats. Anyway, They cited the

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three War Powers Resolution that requires presidents to

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Speaker 1: obtain congressional authorization for hostilities abroad. Now, I would argue

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Speaker 1: authorizations for use of military force packed in our constitution.

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Speaker 1: That's sort of a now overlooked over the years. But

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Speaker 1: there is the War Powers Resolution Act. It does require

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Speaker 1: presidents to obtain congressional authorization. That's the point I made yesterday.

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Speaker 1: At least go to Congress and get an authorization for

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Speaker 1: you some military force, because it legitimizes that. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: appear as if you're going it alone. You've got this

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Speaker 1: American people. Seems like a reasonable step to go through anyway.

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Speaker 1: This shot down proposal in the Senate would have barred

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Speaker 1: the United States forces from engaging in combat against non

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Speaker 1: state actors like drug smugglers unless formally approved by Congress.

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Speaker 1: Republicans in the debate yesterday said the measure would limit

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Speaker 1: the president's authority as commander of chief, wouldn't allow him

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Speaker 1: to take swift action if America was attacked by a

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Speaker 1: foreign enemy. I'm throwing a giant Barbara streisand flag on that.

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Speaker 1: He does have the power if we are under threat,

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Speaker 1: It requires immediate action. That's that concept of eminent threat.

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Speaker 1: What immediate threat do we face from the cartel boats

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Speaker 1: floating around two thousand or one thousand miles away from

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Speaker 1: US zero? Where is the boat going? I don't think

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Speaker 1: we really know. We can assume it's coming here. United

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Speaker 1: States is where the profits come from. But there's a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of islands and other opportunities for that boat

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Speaker 1: to pull over before they reach our international or our waters,

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Speaker 1: subject subjecting them to YES Coastguard law enforcement, and prosecution

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Speaker 1: in American court systems where they would not be eligible

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Speaker 1: for the death penalty, I might quickly interject. Democrats made

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Speaker 1: a point. The Constitution clearly and intentionally places the power

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Speaker 1: to declare war in the hands of this body Congress. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I hate to have to I agree with

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Speaker 1: the resolution prevents the president from taking offensive action, claiming

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Speaker 1: the US allies such as Israel and Saudi Arabia. Is

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Speaker 1: that what this is about? Act quickly to protect Israel

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Speaker 1: and Saudi Arabia. Now, I don't know how that came

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Speaker 1: and breadth of how this, if passed, piece of legislation,

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Speaker 1: would impact the President. But I'm wondering about this defense

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Speaker 1: an obligation to do that. More fundamentally, would an attack

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Speaker 1: It isn't an eminent attack on the United States of America.

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Speaker 1: And I honestly do not understand or know whether we

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Speaker 1: for Israel in Saudi Arabia. I tend to think not.

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 1: Senator Paul I'm sure we'll chi chime in on this

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Speaker 1: But he is, like Congressman Thomas Massey, a believer in

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Speaker 1: what the language of the Constitution says, and go back

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Speaker 1: to the fact that Donald Trump's not going to be

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Speaker 1: Will a Democrat ever get elected again? Will someone that

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Speaker 1: will go see what Cleveland Owl's got this morning. Welcome back, sir.

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Speaker 1: It's good to hear from you.

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Speaker 7: Good morning, Brian. I just would like to comment on

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Speaker 7: the President doing his preemptive actions with these drug boats.

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Speaker 7: I can see his points. I think a lot of

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Speaker 7: what's going on here is pretty much gorilla warfare with

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Speaker 7: a non shooting war We're looking at one hundred thousand

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Speaker 7: citizens being killed by the drugs every year. So it

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Speaker 7: may not be an imminent threat these boats, but it

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Speaker 7: will result in many, many deaths. If they'd make it

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Speaker 7: to the United States.

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Speaker 1: It would and deliver their Well was that boat? Was

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Speaker 1: that boat headed to the United States? Or there's four boats?

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Speaker 1: Were they headed to the United States?

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Speaker 7: I think ultimately the drugs are going to make it.

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Speaker 5: To the United States. You think where another They.

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Speaker 7: May be going to the Bahamas.

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Speaker 1: And but you don't know.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you don't know for sure.

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Speaker 1: There you go. That's the point. And no, that's the point.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, this is at gerrilla warfare though well.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean, you know, you can call it what

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Speaker 1: you want. You can call them narco terrorists, you can

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Speaker 1: call them, I don't know, people trying to make a

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Speaker 1: living whatever. They're a thousand miles away from us. This

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Speaker 1: is not something we should be able to just go

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Speaker 1: ahead and unilaterally decide to blow up. We don't know

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Speaker 1: where those people were going. And what if they got

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Speaker 1: it wrong. What if the boxes that are on that

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Speaker 1: boat were just like food supplies and they were headed

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Speaker 1: to some island nation of delivered aid or something whoops, Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's what the whole concept to do process about.

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Speaker 1: That's why we have a coastguard. If they get near

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Speaker 1: our waters and have drugs in the boat, it's illegal

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Speaker 1: to be ferrying narcotics in US waters. Arrest them for that,

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Speaker 1: lock them up, and throw away the key. I don't

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Speaker 1: even problem with being harsh on drug dealers. They're not

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Speaker 1: subjected to the death penalty in the United States of America.

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Speaker 1: And I hate the idea of governments being able to

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Speaker 1: unilaterally decide who gets to live and who doesn't, because

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Speaker 7: Absolutely well, I understand. And so that's what debate's all about.

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Speaker 7: Amens as always, don't vote Democrat or Rhino.

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Speaker 1: Wonderful, thanks al See, that's the idea of the exchange.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have to agree with me. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to defend drug dealers. I hate them. But every time

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Speaker 1: we talk about drug dealers, I want to turn back

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Speaker 1: and say, who's creating the demand? You are? Drugs are

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Speaker 1: bad for you. They will kill you, They'll ruin your life.

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Speaker 1: They'll turn you against family members, They'll turn family members

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Speaker 1: against you. You'll end up homeless out on the street.

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Speaker 1: You'll die a painful death. Look at the faces of myth.

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Speaker 1: You're guaranteed to look like one of those images in

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Speaker 1: about a couple of years. Maybe if you're continuing to

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Speaker 1: use math, it will kill you. Isn't that enough of

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Speaker 1: a deterrent. I'm not saying, you know, I used to

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Speaker 1: be let people do what they want. I'm against criminalization

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Speaker 1: of self abuse, but you know what, I kind of

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Speaker 1: turned around the corner on that a little while back,

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Speaker 1: because this self abuse ends up rippling over and impacting

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Speaker 1: you and me. We end up paying the price. Homeless

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Speaker 1: encampments filled with just chronic drug abusers, defecating everywhere, throwing

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Speaker 1: and free to be and nice looking. It detracts from

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Speaker 1: property values. It ruins cities that closes business, It increases crime.

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Speaker 1: The ripple effect is the problem. If this boiled down

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Speaker 1: to someone abusing themselves and then dying in a corner

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Speaker 1: on their own, yes we can have some sympathy for them.

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Speaker 1: Yes we can hopefully can find some resources they can

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Speaker 1: get into rehab. But because you and I end up

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Speaker 1: with just letting people do whatever the hell they want. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of against the concept anymore. But this is

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Speaker 1: bigger than that. This is activity that could end up

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Speaker 1: getting us into a literal shooting war. I know. Venezuela

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Speaker 1: doesn't pose any existential threat to America. Their military couldn't

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Speaker 1: the living crap out of them if they declare war

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Speaker 1: want to go down that road knock themselves out, But

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Speaker 1: that's the risk you run. Do you want to jeopardize

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Speaker 1: your son or daughter serving the American military because some

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Speaker 1: president at some future point in time decides he's going

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Speaker 1: to unilaterally drop a bomb on a country that I

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Speaker 1: don't know, may very well too, if not unilaterally, with

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Speaker 1: the help of their supporters, engage in a coordinated effort

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Speaker 1: to go back after us because of something we did. Militarily.

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Speaker 1: Venezuela is CosIng up with the Russians. Venezuela is coosing

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Speaker 1: up with the Chinese indirectly. China's coosing up of the

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Speaker 1: Russians and all other quote unquote adversaries in the world.

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Speaker 1: What if they joined forces and said, you know what,

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Speaker 1: we're not going to stand for that kind of thing anymore.

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Speaker 1: Just a thought. That's why the use of military forces

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Speaker 1: should come after serious contemplation and approval of at least

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Speaker 1: of a seventy three War Powers Act Authorization for use

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Speaker 1: Eve time for some local stories, although you can still

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Speaker 1: feel free to call. It's always five one, three, seven, four,

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Speaker 1: nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred eighty two to three

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Speaker 1: talk over the local stories. Tonight, it's a big night.

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Speaker 1: It's the debate AFTEB per All against Corey Bowman. Here

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Speaker 1: we go, see it's going to be live. It's at

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Speaker 1: Zaber University, James and Caroline Duff Banquet Center. Hours of

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Speaker 1: Debate eight pm to nine pm, with doors opening at

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Speaker 1: seven pm. Hosted by the Cincinni Choir, partnering with Zavier

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Speaker 1: University and Ohio Debate Commission and Cincinnati City Cable. So

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Speaker 1: they're going to be answering questions on issues regarding obviously

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Speaker 1: downtown excuse me, Downtown Cincinnati. Of course, election day's fast

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Speaker 1: in prosing. Of course, it's already early voting period. So

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Speaker 1: if you can get in there and vote for Corey Bowman,

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Speaker 1: I hope you can do that. So again, Dorso. But

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Speaker 1: at seven Debate eight to nine pm, a mission is free,

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Speaker 1: but you need a ticket to get in. First come,

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Speaker 1: first served, as far as seating is concerned. Debate moderated

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Speaker 1: by Enquire Opinion and Engagement Editor Kevin Aldridge. The questions

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Speaker 1: will be asked by panelists Karl Weisser and Enquire Politics

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Speaker 1: editor rather Charles mc claire excuse me, Claire Claire McKinney,

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Speaker 1: and Xavier Newswire editor in chief. So there's your panelists,

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Speaker 1: and you know who the people answering the questions are.

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Speaker 1: So here's the rules. No backpacks, purses, bags larger than

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Speaker 1: six inch clutch style will be permitted. Clear bags only.

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Speaker 1: Prohibited items camera bags, cinch bags, brief cases, computer backpacks,

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Speaker 1: fanning packs, luggage of any kind usual suspects there. You

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Speaker 1: can't bring political signs. You can't bring noisemakers. You can't

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Speaker 1: bring campaign materials into the Cintas Center outside. Different story.

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Speaker 1: I suspect no political flyers, campaign materials, or other signage

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00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: may be distributed or displayed outside. See the next sentence

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Speaker 1: answered my question. I was wrong on my presumption on that.

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Speaker 1: So you can't display anything outside Cintas Center or on

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Speaker 1: Xavier University property. Hmm. My constitutional free speech brain is

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Speaker 1: trying to contemplate that debate rules emphasizing mutual respect for

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Speaker 1: the candidates and the moderator. We'll wait and see how

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Speaker 1: that unfolds. Now, how to watch it? You have several options.

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Speaker 1: You can live stream at the Enquirer website, Cincinnati dot

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Speaker 1: com or City Cable website. I guess they have a

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Speaker 1: link there on the Enquirer's reporting against Cincinnati for the details.

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Speaker 1: Local twelve is also going to simulcast it, but we

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Speaker 1: believe Joe and I believe since it's not currently on

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Speaker 1: the live television schedule that that's probably the Local twelve

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Speaker 1: website will be streaming it, which is Local twelve dot com.

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Speaker 1: So check out the debate tonight one hour time and

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Speaker 1: I wish Corey Bowman all the best I got to

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Speaker 1: see him last night at the Smithaman fundraiser. He made

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Speaker 1: a brief appearance because he had to head off to

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Speaker 1: do debate prep. So he is prepping for it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you can saygabye, who THHC gummies and drinks? Mike Dewines

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Speaker 1: imposed a ninety day ban on what they describe as

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Speaker 1: intoxicating hemp, including THC infused gummies and beverages. Decision after

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Speaker 1: months of waiting around for lawmakers to impose their own restrictions.

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Speaker 1: So he went and went it alone. Executive order bands

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Speaker 1: of sales consumer products containing intoxicating hemp, including THHC infuse

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Speaker 1: beverages and gummies. Now my understanding of intoxicating hemp. Hemp's legal.

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Speaker 1: It's got like point three percent or or outher point

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Speaker 1: zero three percent of THC in it. It's some really

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Speaker 1: low amount. Well, they figured a way to concentrate that

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Speaker 1: and turning into a concentrated amount, so it's not under

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Speaker 1: the current law, it's sort of outside of it. So this,

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Speaker 1: I guess, is going to deal with that. We go

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Speaker 1: back to twenty eighteen. The Farm Bill legalized ham nationwide

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Speaker 1: as long as it has no more than point three

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Speaker 1: percent of delta nine THHC, which is what produces the high.

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Speaker 1: So we are allowed to have industrial hemp in CB

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Speaker 1: and have CBD oil which is derived from this hemp.

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Speaker 1: CBD oil and CBD products are not subject to this ban.

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Speaker 1: And I think the way it worked and someone smarter

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Speaker 1: than me, I kind of drew a parallel to the

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Speaker 1: poppy plant. You know, from poppies, you got opium. From opium,

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Speaker 1: you got morphine from morphine, you got heroin. You know

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Speaker 1: you need a bigger high. So I think they boil

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Speaker 1: down that. What's the minimal amount of that DHC you

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Speaker 1: can find in them, concentrate that, and whila you have

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Speaker 1: intixicating hemp, which is different than apparently THC hemp from

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Speaker 1: regular marijuana plants with a higher concentration. Bottom line, as

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Speaker 1: we have you this, they're continuing to work it out

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Speaker 1: here in the state of Ohio six thirty five, and

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Speaker 1: apparently a lot of people are getting high and crashing cars.

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Speaker 1: Is a new study out finding that more than forty

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Speaker 1: percent of drivers who died in car accidents over the

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Speaker 1: past six years had elevated risks of well thh elevated

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Speaker 1: levels of THHC in their blood right it gets you high,

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Speaker 1: it impairs you. You're more likely to wreck. Not rocket

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Speaker 1: science folks. Six thirty six fifty five k se de

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Speaker 1: talk station. Uh, plumb type plumbing. It's always plumbing done right.

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Speaker 1: You are in wonderfully capable hands. When it comes to

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Speaker 1: forty year fifty five car se detalk station five three

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Speaker 1: seven eight hundred and eighty two to three talk five

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Speaker 1: five fifty on H and T phone after the top

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Speaker 1: of the air news Congressman Warren Davidson, Oh, Joe Strucker

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Speaker 1: had a brilliant idea. I want to elaborate on it

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Speaker 1: for tonight's Bowman Purvole debate a drinking game. So every

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Speaker 1: time someone says the word it was Trump, correct a

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Speaker 1: shot when Trump's name or the maga word, that's one shot. Now,

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Speaker 1: Joe did not specify what type of beverages Joe's gonna

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Speaker 1: go with Shlivovitz. You may choose something that's a little

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Speaker 1: milder in terms of alcohol content. Now, if anyone says

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Speaker 1: the word he utters jd Vance's name, or says jd

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Speaker 1: Vance's half brother or brother or words to that effect,

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Speaker 1: that is a chug moment. So whatever's left in your glass,

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Speaker 1: you must consume completely. Is there a requirement for the

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Speaker 1: size of glass we're talking about, Joe, your discretion? All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: shot glass would be no different than I mean, under

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Speaker 1: the rules of the game, chugging or taking a shot

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Speaker 1: will be the same. So I reckon at least a

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Speaker 1: six sounds class that would be drunk by eight ten. Well,

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Speaker 1: I rarely stay awake after eight o'clock since I get

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Speaker 1: up at two thirty, Joe, so I'm not quite sure

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Speaker 1: I could make it. But if I did watch through

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Speaker 1: the whole debate, I would probably be a physical wreck

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Speaker 1: tomorrow morning. Anyway, if you've got other rules of the game,

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Speaker 1: feel free to chime in give me a call without

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Speaker 1: further ado, though, I found this to be extraordinarily troubling,

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Speaker 1: related to really not much of anything we're talking about,

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Speaker 1: unless you want to consider the concept that Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: has labeled Antifah antifa. If you prefer a domestic terrorist organization,

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Speaker 1: going back to my conversation earlier, if you label someone

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Speaker 1: in a domestic terrorist organization, that's domestic. If you're able

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Speaker 1: to an international terrorist organization, you can blow them up

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Speaker 1: anywhere in the four corners of the world. Now you're

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Speaker 1: going to be blowing up Antifa folks here in the

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Speaker 1: United States. What is the prerequisite for use of deadly force?

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Speaker 1: If you're on American soil and you're a citizen, you

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Speaker 1: have to have eminent apprehension of grievous bodily harm or death,

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Speaker 1: and it must be reasonable. I thought I was going

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Speaker 1: to die. This guy's lunging at it from me with

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Speaker 1: a deadly weapon. You can shoot them. Now. If Antifa

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Speaker 1: is not engaged in eminent apprehension of bodily harm, they're

989
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: just throwing molotov cocktails. That's a crime. If it's organized.

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Speaker 1: It could be a reco charge if they're organizing amongst themselves,

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Speaker 1: and go after them and throw them in federal prisons

992
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Speaker 1: for a very long time. But you couldn't kill them.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine the outrage if your favorite group was protesting.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they got a little out of control, maybe they

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Speaker 1: engaged in violent behavior, but they didn't threaten anybody's life

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Speaker 1: and the authorities responded with deadly force. Say, oh, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, Kent State University. Maybe that's not something we

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Speaker 1: embrace conceptually here in the United States. But this, in

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Speaker 1: spite of that reality, is extraordinarily troubling. You might want

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Speaker 1: to consider where you're sending your young people to college.

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00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: City University of New York Graduate Center is offering a course.

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Speaker 1: It's described as an English course. It's titled Global Antifa.

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Speaker 1: Accord to Washington Times reporting, the required coursework includes completion of,

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Speaker 1: in the words of the syllabus, research projects that contribute

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Speaker 1: to the work of global movements fighting fascism. A director

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Speaker 1: of an outfit called Defending Education, which is an organization

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Speaker 1: fighting for to avoid indoctrination and classrooms, Ryan Staley I,

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Speaker 1: said courses such as this have no place in American institutions.

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Speaker 1: A higher education putting up in similar militant co research

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Speaker 1: is actually showing up in k th K through twelve

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00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: education as well. But the course offered by the City

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Speaker 1: University apparently has learning goals that include familiarizing and again

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Speaker 1: going back to the syllabus, students with contemporary theories of

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Speaker 1: fascism and anti fascism. Pause on that contemporary theory of

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Speaker 1: fascism and anti fascism. You know what that means. That

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Speaker 1: means a rewarding the definition of what fascism is, because

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Speaker 1: these idiots don't know what it is since they go

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Speaker 1: around accusing Donald Trump but being a fascist. B Ah, yes,

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Speaker 1: I set it out loud again anyway, familiarizing students with

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Speaker 1: contemporary theorist of fascism and anti fashion, as well as

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Speaker 1: related critical theories concerning racial capitalism, gender and sexuality, imperialism,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. That's core to the report from Defending Education.

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Speaker 1: Given the topic of the seminar to this class will

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Speaker 1: explicitly interdisciplinary will also oriented is also oriented towards militant

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Speaker 1: co research, and students will be encouraged to develop research

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Speaker 1: projects that contribute to the work of global movements fighting fascism.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna pay for this course. I'm sure there's some

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Speaker 1: young militant that will say out loud, yes, I will.

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Speaker 1: The course explore quote ways in which the realm of

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Speaker 1: esthetics in general and more specifically particular domains such as

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Speaker 1: literature and visual culture relate to fascism and anti fashion fascism.

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Speaker 1: Discussions of various research methodologies with a focus on histories

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Speaker 1: and examples of militant co research. Close quote. I have

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Speaker 1: no idea what that is. Psychobabble. You love this? The

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Speaker 1: professor teaching the class Global antifall got a PhD from

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Speaker 1: Chlobing University works in the fields of ready environmental humanities

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Speaker 1: and post colonial eco criticism. I swear they're making this

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Speaker 1: stuff up as they go along. Postcolonial echo criticism. That's

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Speaker 1: a field. That's a bunch of people sitting around a

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Speaker 1: table in a drum circle, getting high and contemplating their

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Speaker 1: nabels and making up stuff. Now, can Trump launch a

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Speaker 1: drones strike into that classroom since they're anti file folks

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Speaker 1: and they're engaging in domestic terrorism by preaching their anti

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Speaker 1: file like like theories and ideology. Part of me wants

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Speaker 1: to say yeah, But practicularly speaking, the answer is no.

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Speaker 1: Six forty seven right now, Mike, hang on, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: take your call. Just to the second. I'm gonna mention. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't have to. I want to mention Gate of

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Speaker 1: Heaven at six fifty one five KRC Detalk Station five

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Speaker 1: one three seven Night two three Talk Pound five fifty

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Speaker 1: on AT and T phones. Congressman Warren Davidson every time

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Speaker 1: of their name is followed by Senator Rand Paul. It's

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Speaker 1: at seven thirty. We're gonna hear from Mike. Now, Mike,

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Speaker 1: thanks for holding over the brake. Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Ryan, about your drinking game for tonight?

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Speaker 3: Are in the debate?

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Speaker 4: You get at ice a illegal alien to.

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Speaker 1: That ol you know, and speaking of that, we did

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Speaker 1: have some illegal alien problems here locally. Announcement of an

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Speaker 1: arrest of some organized criminals. Uh from gosh, where was

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Speaker 1: it South America or something like that. I just saw

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Speaker 1: that local story. Yeah, and if.

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Speaker 4: They say illegally, then you gotta take a shot at

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Speaker 4: Jose Corba.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, we can't paint with that kind of broad brush, Mike.

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Speaker 1: Someone might think you're being racist because not all illegal

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Speaker 1: immigrants come from areas that make tequila. Let's be firm

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Speaker 1: on that game, and remember that you can qualify your

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Speaker 1: comments along those lines. Don't you be painting with a

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Speaker 1: broad brush or casting dispersions on my South American friends

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Speaker 1: or Mexican friends. But tequila is the drink of course

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Speaker 1: for the drink or the drink of choice for the

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Speaker 1: drinking game there in the interest of fairness, medello, then, Joe,

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Speaker 1: does that make it better? Anybody? See the report on

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Speaker 1: the guy that was arrested accusing of sparking the Palisades fire.

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Speaker 1: One dude, twenty nine year old kid named Jonathan Rinderknick

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Speaker 1: charged with destruction and property by means of fire. Mandatory

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Speaker 1: minimum prison sentence five years if convicted. I you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's early in the reporting, and I'm going to

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Speaker 1: acknowledge that up front, so I'm not going to draw conclusions,

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Speaker 1: but i will say that the conspiracy theory flag sort

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Speaker 1: of waving in my head. How did they know where

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Speaker 1: that fire started? They claimed they do know, and for

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Speaker 1: such a long time they blamed it on the utility

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Speaker 1: companies fire to maintain and up keep the utility lines,

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Speaker 1: and they sparked, and they dropped to the ground and

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Speaker 1: they caused fires. And this particular case, they say they

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Speaker 1: know it's an incendiary fire and that the subject was

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Speaker 1: arrested started it. So what kind of evidentiary trail did

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Speaker 1: they follow from the path where they say this guy

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Speaker 1: had stopped his uber and got out and walked down

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Speaker 1: the path to the fire starting, And how did they

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Speaker 1: link him to it? I'm willing to just sort of

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Speaker 1: assume that they got the right guy, and he was

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Speaker 1: this apparently left wing nutcase. He has his own manifesto,

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Speaker 1: I believe, as so many of these crazy people do,

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Speaker 1: so at least he wasn't some crazy right winger providing

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Speaker 1: he left with a bunch of opportunities to say it's

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Speaker 1: his evil right wingers. When we have one string or

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Speaker 1: one crime after another and one horrific murder or active

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Speaker 1: of violence after another that is well attributed to left

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Speaker 1: wing nutcases, just food for thought. So keep your popcorn

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Speaker 1: out on that one anyway. Uh, I'm sure to think

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Speaker 1: it was anything else when we get oh real quick,

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Speaker 1: that unrelated to anything. Uh. Doctor Marbres, a professor at

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Speaker 1: the Hadasha Hebrew University Medical Center, lead author of a

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Speaker 1: study saying, uh, you may end up with a significantly

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Speaker 1: higher risk of mood disorders and suicidal thoughts and suicidal

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Speaker 1: ideation if you're using Propecia yep finesteride aka Propecia, the

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Speaker 1: hair growing drug approved by the US Food and Drug

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Speaker 1: Administration back in the nineteen ninety. Studies now have linked

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Speaker 1: this drug to long term brain inflammation and changes in

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Speaker 1: the hippocampus. The Brain Center for Learning, Memory, and Emotions

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Speaker 1: FDA added depression as a potential side effect of this

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Speaker 1: drug back in twenty eleven. Suicidal ideation and behavior added

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. So this guy did some studies

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Speaker 1: and finding out that, yeah, this comes with a significant risk,

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Speaker 1: so you might want to factor that into the equation

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Speaker 1: and just sort of let nature take his course. I

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Speaker 1: suppose six fifty five at the five KCD talk station

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Speaker 1: Warren Davidson after the top of the ur news and

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Speaker 1: then Senator Ran Paul at seven point thirty. I hope

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Speaker 1: you can stick.

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Speaker 8: Around today's tough headlines coming up the talk station.

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Speaker 1: Seven oh five, the fifty five PARISD talk station, Happy Thursday,

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Speaker 1: Slash Friday, Eve's looking forward to the return of irbdy

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Speaker 1: aviation expert Jay Rally of eight thirty looking forward to

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Speaker 1: talking about Senator Ran Paul at the bottom of this hour.

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Speaker 1: And I am always excited and pleased to welcome with

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Speaker 1: the fifty five KRSEY Morning Show, Congressman Warren Davidson, Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: my friend. Pleasure having you on the show.

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Speaker 8: Brian, It's always an honor great to talk with you.

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Speaker 1: Let us dive on into Well, we're still in a shutdown,

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Speaker 1: said a voted again said no. Democrats are insisting that

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Speaker 1: we extend the COVID area era, basically premium supplements covering

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Speaker 1: the American taxpayers covering the cost of the Obamacare premiums,

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Speaker 1: which successfully expanded the program. They doubled the size of

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Speaker 1: the Obamacare folks during COVID nineteen, but that was the

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Speaker 1: predicate for allowing these supplements. COVID nineteen. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: We're all going to die. Businesses are shut down, people

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Speaker 1: need relief. Let's give them free insurance, which isn't really free. Well,

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Speaker 1: that period of time has gone he yet the Democrats

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Speaker 1: and an obvious effort to get everyone under one size

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Speaker 1: fits all medically run government healthcare or government run medical care.

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Speaker 1: They're fighting and that looks like they're going to die

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Speaker 1: on this hill? Or are they? Congressman Davidson, what's your

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Speaker 1: assessment on this? I know you had some very strong

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Speaker 1: words about the Continuing Resolution which kept the Biden era

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Speaker 1: funding levels to try to get this through. So where

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Speaker 1: are we on this, Congressman Davidson, Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 8: That's basically it. Democrats could have chosen to just keep

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Speaker 8: the funding level that they helped implement. I mean, this

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Speaker 8: isn't like a partisan funding bill. This was the Republicans

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Speaker 8: had the House, the Democrats had the Senate. Joe Biden

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Speaker 8: was the president, and this is the same policy, same

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Speaker 8: funding level, the pass at that we haven't passed a

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Speaker 8: different funding bill. We've had lots of debates about it,

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Speaker 8: but that's the whole point is we could continue in

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Speaker 8: the debates and call the votes on other policy issues

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Speaker 8: with a government that's open, or we could have this shutdown.

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Speaker 8: And you know, Democrats decided that they were going to

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Speaker 8: hold their votes and not supply the seven that you

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Speaker 8: need in the Senate. We hit pass it out of

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Speaker 8: the House because we just need a majority, and a

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Speaker 8: majority of the Senate's passed it. You've got fifty six

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Speaker 8: senators that say yeah, let's keep the government open, so

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Speaker 8: that's bipartisan, but you need four more Democrats frankly, to

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Speaker 8: join and say let's keep it open. And realities, we

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Speaker 8: know we need less government, we need a budget that balances.

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Speaker 8: Democrats said, no, if you don't give us a one

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Speaker 8: and a half train dollars that we can spend on

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Speaker 8: our priorities, which includes I'll care for illegals, includes you know,

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Speaker 8: COVID plucks ups for Obamacare, which what never worked in

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Speaker 8: the first place. It was failing in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 8: and they used COVID as a pretext to flood it

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Speaker 8: with even more cash, and now it's expiring, and they're like, oh, well,

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Speaker 8: maybe if we subsidy it more, it'll keep you know,

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Speaker 8: we'll reach this magic tipping point where somehow it'll be affordable.

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Speaker 8: And it's like, no, you know, I'm almost timpted to say,

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Speaker 8: you know what, you should triple them, because just to

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Speaker 8: prove the point, the subsidies aren't lowering the costs, not

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Speaker 8: helping people get lower health insurance. Now it benefits to

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Speaker 8: people who get the subsidy, for sure, but for the

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Speaker 8: broader average consumer, it's raising the premiums and the quality

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Speaker 8: of care. Since Obamacare hasn't done better. Health outcomes haven't

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Speaker 8: done better since Obamacare was worked. So when are we

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Speaker 8: going to finally concede that Obamacare didn't work? And Democrats

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Speaker 8: want to shut the government down over that and other

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Speaker 8: priorities they've.

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Speaker 1: Got, Yes they do. And you know it's funny because

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Speaker 1: the premiums going basically going directly to healthcare providers like hospitals.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the American people aren't seeing any of that.

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Speaker 1: So it is it is continuing to support, but it's

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Speaker 1: not they haven't gone away. I think that's a really

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Speaker 1: critical point here. It's not it doesn't become free just

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Speaker 1: because the government says, well, now it's free. They're not

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Speaker 1: providing health care for nothing. The American taxpayer is covering

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Speaker 1: the nut of the premium. That's your one point five

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Speaker 1: trillion dollars right there, basically, or maybe hundreds of millions

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Speaker 1: of dollars, billions of dollars anyway, Yeah.

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Speaker 8: That portions hundreds of billions. They've got all kinds of

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Speaker 8: other stuff in there. They want to restore USAID funding,

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Speaker 8: which we intentionally turned off. They want to restore our

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Speaker 8: funding for NPR, which we intentionally told them to go

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Speaker 8: fund themselves. And you know, all these things they want

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Speaker 8: to relitigate that we've already had the votes on, and

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Speaker 8: they just want to use the government shutdown as extortion.

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Speaker 8: So you know, I hope we put single things in there,

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Speaker 8: Like you know, right now, you know, we've got essential

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Speaker 8: people working, and you know that begs the question why

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Speaker 8: do we have non essentially? But if you say, all right, well,

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Speaker 8: these people are so important that they need to keep working,

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Speaker 8: why isn't the payroll clerk that pays them so important

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Speaker 8: that the payroll clerk keeps working so we can put

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Speaker 8: some line at them bills on there, so that it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 8: if you don't want to fund the government all the way,

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Speaker 8: could we at least fund the payroll clerk so that

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Speaker 8: our troops can get paid this month.

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Speaker 1: That's a good idea, Davidson. But now, what of the

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Speaker 1: concern that I have that Republicans now seem to be

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Speaker 1: maybe wavering a little bit headline Wall Street Journal, Republicans

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Speaker 1: cautioned White House on inflicting shut down pain, referring to

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's comment earlier this week about the Officer Management

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Speaker 1: and Budget compiling a list of folks that will be

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Speaker 1: fired or departments that will be permanently closed. He did

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Speaker 1: suggest that was coming our way in a matter of

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Speaker 1: four or five days. Now we're down to maybe three

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Speaker 1: or four days for that. But isn't that something that

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Speaker 1: we kind of want out of this shut down? An

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Speaker 1: opportunity to reduce the size and scope of government, which

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Speaker 1: some of these wavering Republicans are saying, well, wait a second,

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Speaker 1: that'll give the Democrats a win in the who's responsible

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Speaker 1: for this shutdown argument? Aha? See, the only pretext for

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Speaker 1: this is Republicans want to cut out the government, and

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Speaker 1: oh my god, people are going to die or whatever,

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Speaker 1: but I don't care. I would think you could wear

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Speaker 1: that as a badge of honor. Yes, I did shut

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Speaker 1: the government down for the purposes of getting it smaller.

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Speaker 1: We campaigned on doing exactly that.

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Speaker 8: Well that's the thing. Look, I voted for the cr

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Speaker 8: so we could keep having this debate because frankly, I

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Speaker 8: want the outcome of a smaller government. So you know, okay,

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Speaker 8: if we're going to have a revote, and I can

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Speaker 8: take credit for helping get Russ vote to power to

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Speaker 8: start aligning a budget with our priorities, well good, that's

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Speaker 8: exactly what we've been fighting to do. With the appropriations process,

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Speaker 8: it's broken and so all you've really got left is

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Speaker 8: executive power. And you know, the administration put out a

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Speaker 8: budget earlier this year. I would be surprised if they

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Speaker 8: don't start doing basically what they said they believe the

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Speaker 8: budget should look like, and they send over, you know, ideas,

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Speaker 8: and then Congress just well, yeah, but we can't do that,

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Speaker 8: and they never get around to doing it. So, you know,

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Speaker 8: Russ voted at office management and budgets got the task

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Speaker 8: of saying, look, I have to follow the law. I

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Speaker 8: have to pay people that we're considering essential. You know,

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Speaker 8: the prisons guards at the federal prisons, they're going to

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Speaker 8: have to show up to work, keep the prisoners locked up.

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Speaker 8: The FAA is going to have to work and keep

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Speaker 8: the planes in the air, et cetera. But there are

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Speaker 8: agencies that they said, for example, we don't think we

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Speaker 8: need as many IRS agents. So they're talking about for

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Speaker 8: a lowing or eliminating a substantial portion of the IRS.

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Speaker 8: I think forty six percent. I want the whole place closed.

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Speaker 8: But you know, it's a good start to get rid

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Speaker 8: of forty six percent of it.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't agree more. It seems to me that you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of jobs out in the world are threatened

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Speaker 1: by artificial intelligence, Congressman Davidson, isn't that sort of a

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Speaker 1: role that artificial intelligence may be able to fill quite nicely?

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Speaker 1: It is just dollars and cents and calculations based upon

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Speaker 1: an obscenely thick and fat tax code.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, look, the tasticulously complex. That's why we

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Speaker 8: need a different way to tax people and get rid

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Speaker 8: of the income tax, which also serves as a giant

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Speaker 8: surveillance tool. Pretty nosy, all the things you have to

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Speaker 8: disclose in it. But anyway, it is one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 8: For more automation and more tech and the innovation that

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Speaker 8: can happen there is going to eliminate a lot of

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Speaker 8: jobs ters of compliance. But in the meantime, when we're

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Speaker 8: operating the government, look we've got tons of agencies. I mean,

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Speaker 8: if you look at HUD, for example, housing an urban development,

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Speaker 8: they had like forty four percent coming into the office period,

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Speaker 8: not like every day of the week, but like coming

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Speaker 8: into the office period. There's still This is when I

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Speaker 8: was talking with Secretary Fudge before the current administration. You know,

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Speaker 8: Marcia Fudge, a former remember of Congress from Cleveland area

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Speaker 8: here in Ohio, became Secretary of HUD and she's like, look,

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Speaker 8: you can't get all these people to come in. COVID

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Speaker 8: is long since gone, and they still couldn't get people

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Speaker 8: to show up to work. You've got the same dynamic

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Speaker 8: and IRS, same dynamic and Social Security administration. So a

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Speaker 8: lot of these people that haven't come into work, the

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Speaker 8: Trump administration has already tried dealing with them. They've offered buyouts,

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Speaker 8: they've done all kinds of things. There are lots of

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Speaker 8: positions like that. We can say, you know, maybe we

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Speaker 8: just don't need all these people.

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Speaker 1: Congress and Warren Davids, one more question on this shutdown,

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Speaker 1: will as before we take a break and bring it

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Speaker 1: back and talk about an amazing development. Yesterday regarding peace

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Speaker 1: in the Middle East, there was a floated around proposal

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Speaker 1: which is widely described as bipartisan, extending these tax supplements,

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Speaker 1: these credits that were COVID nineteen era related for one year,

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Speaker 1: sort of as a way to kick the can down

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Speaker 1: the road, so we'd have a new expiration date for them.

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Speaker 1: But is that something that you would be willing to

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Speaker 1: go along with, because I think it's a step in

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Speaker 1: the wrong direction.

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Speaker 8: Personally, No, the status quo is completely broken, and I

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Speaker 8: don't think it's a good idea to extend them for

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Speaker 8: one month. Personally, I think we should have already repealed

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Speaker 8: Obamacare and gone on to a more market oriented approach.

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Speaker 8: But if we're going to do a dime for these

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Speaker 8: COVID era plus ups for Obamacare, I hope we triple

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Speaker 8: them ten x them. Whatever. Proof once and for all

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Speaker 8: that subsidies don't work, and it proved that, Okay, we

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Speaker 8: can't arrive at a crash site. People act like money

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Speaker 8: is irrelevant and we can just print it. Well you don't.

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Speaker 8: Can you not connect the dots that the massive spending

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Speaker 8: causes inflation? And they're like, oh no, it's corporate greed,

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Speaker 8: and you're like, then the companies always want to make money.

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Speaker 8: But when you spend massively more money, it causes inflation.

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Speaker 8: And we're seeing that in the areas that you subsidize

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Speaker 8: the most, like education and healthcare, you get the most inflation.

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Speaker 8: And in the economy when you spend massively more two

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Speaker 8: trillion more then we generate in revenue. You're dumping two

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Speaker 8: trillion extra dollars into the economy every year. How do

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Speaker 8: you not have inflation? And for some reason people can't

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Speaker 8: do this cause effect relationship.

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Speaker 5: It's mind blowing.

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Speaker 1: That's a failure of the US education system. I would argue. Anyhow,

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Speaker 1: we'll continue the Congressman War and Davidson peace in the

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Speaker 1: Middle East, the concept within our reach. Maybe seven to

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Speaker 1: sixteen fifty five krc DE TALX station US five KRCD

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Speaker 1: talk Station Brian Thomas with Congressman Warren Davidson follow by

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Speaker 1: Senator Ran Paul Bottom of the hour, Congressman Davidson a

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Speaker 1: wonderful revelation yesterday Hamas and Israel agreed to Phase well,

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Speaker 1: I guess they're calling it Phase one. A lot of

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Speaker 1: devil's devil in details, a lot of things to be

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Speaker 1: ironed out, but a remarkable advancement toward peace between Israel

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Speaker 1: and Hamas, the terrorist organization Israel's agreed to withdraw. There's

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Speaker 1: some question marks about where the lines of withdraw are

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Speaker 1: going to be drawn and who's going to be providing

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Speaker 1: sort of a peacekeeping force there. But I guess the

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Speaker 1: Egyptian border at Rafa is now open, which allows Palestinians

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Speaker 1: to exit the area and allows for if food deliveries

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Speaker 1: to be brought in. This seems to be a huge accomplishment.

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Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson, what's your perception of where we are on

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Speaker 1: this look?

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Speaker 8: I think Donald Trump has been very clear that his

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Speaker 8: goal is peace. He wants people to stop dying. He's

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Speaker 8: been very active on the world stage, and what a

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Speaker 8: great use of America's influence around the world and Donald

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Speaker 8: Trump's personal role in it. And it's been amazing to watch.

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Speaker 8: He's been incredibly effective. No, I mean, no one really

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Speaker 8: believes there's going to be peace in the Middle East.

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Speaker 8: Whenever you starts working on it, you're like, well, okay,

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Speaker 8: why don't you have tilted some other woodmill. This is

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Speaker 8: a very entrenched conflict and it's amazing to see that

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Speaker 8: he's brought the parties together to get to a point

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Speaker 8: where they're close to peace. They're agreed to do it. Now,

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Speaker 8: let's see if they actually do it, and you know, exchange,

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Speaker 8: you got to give up the hostages. Yeah, and you've

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Speaker 8: got to stop. You know, Hamas cannot govern Gaza. That's

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Speaker 8: the base thing for Israel and then for you know,

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Speaker 8: the people of Gaza. All right, if those things are met,

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Speaker 8: then Israel can start pulling troops out of the Gaza area.

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Speaker 8: And if it changes, well then okay, then it's all

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Speaker 8: back on. But hopefully peace we'll get there. I've spent

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Speaker 8: a lot of time praying for this peace and it's

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Speaker 8: just terrible to see what's going on. War is a

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Speaker 8: horrible thing.

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Speaker 1: Well, in part of me wants to believe the Democrats

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Speaker 1: are actually quite upset about this, inspite of the fact

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Speaker 1: it's going to lead to maybe fewer and maybe even

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Speaker 1: a broader piece like the Abraham Accords we're bringing around.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine that extending throughout the entire region. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's live together independently, but play together nicely for the

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Speaker 1: purposes of everybody's economic benefit. And what an odd concept that.

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Speaker 1: But I thought it was wonderful that all of the

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Speaker 1: parties to these negotiations, from Hamas to Israel to cutter

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Speaker 1: to Egypt to Turkey, all much to the chagrin of Democrats,

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Speaker 1: giving Donald Trump specific praise for his efforts along these lines.

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Speaker 1: I mean, as much as I have no value in

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Speaker 1: the Nobel Peace Prize ever since Barack Obama got one

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Speaker 1: for doing literally nothing, but this makes Donald Trump really

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Speaker 1: quite eligible, if not well deserved, of a Nobel Peace Prize.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and that's what makes them lose their minds over it.

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Speaker 8: I mean, you've kept people trying to overdose on talent

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Speaker 8: OneD just because Donald Trump pointed out that talent all themselves,

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Speaker 8: and Harvard did a study that said, hey, take in

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Speaker 8: talent all while you're pregnant could be bad for you.

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Speaker 8: Talk to your doctor. And so there are people that

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Speaker 8: are literally going to the ICU because well, to own Trump,

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Speaker 8: I have to do this. And so now you see,

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Speaker 8: on the biggest world stage possible, Donald Trump getting a

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Speaker 8: win which is, you know, win after win after win

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Speaker 8: in all kinds of areas. They just can't stand it.

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Speaker 8: And even if it meant more war, they would be like, well,

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Speaker 8: but Trump can't succeed. I think one of the funniest

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Speaker 8: things I saw was, you know, kind of one of

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Speaker 8: those Babylon d type headlines, is Federal judge rules that

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Speaker 8: Trump cannot does not have the authority to facilitate peace

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Speaker 8: in the Middle East. You know, but this is the thing.

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Speaker 8: Anything to stop Trump is basically the only thing that

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Speaker 8: the Left stands.

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Speaker 1: For these days, no question about it. Well, and the

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Speaker 1: other component of this that remains a mystery to me

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Speaker 1: because as we see all these pro Palestinian pro Hamas

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Speaker 1: agitator agitators tearing up college campuses and overrunning cities, I

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Speaker 1: didn't see any reference to the question of a Palestinian state.

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Speaker 1: Is this have any open sort of at least wiggle

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Speaker 1: room for that to be brought about. Is that something

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Speaker 1: that wasn't touch by this. I didn't hear any I

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Speaker 1: didn't really quite read anything which definitively answers that question.

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Speaker 8: Congressman Davids, Yeah, that was very intentionally not included in

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Speaker 8: this because there's just no way that there's going to

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Speaker 8: be a discussion about that that involves Hamas, and so

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Speaker 8: the condition is Hamas can't govern in Gaza, and then

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Speaker 8: there's a lot of rebuilding that needs to take place

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Speaker 8: before that's even ripe. And there are a lot of

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Speaker 8: people that are pushing for it, including some of the

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Speaker 8: European Union, Democrats, radicals, campus folks in particular that you're

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Speaker 8: talking about, and you know the ten seven massacre when

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Speaker 8: Hamas you know, went out and massacred innocent civilians in Israel.

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Speaker 8: A lot of what their demand was is a separate state.

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Speaker 8: I mean, you can't reward that massacred, the ten seven

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Speaker 8: massacre with talking about a separate Palconian state, but you

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Speaker 8: can restore peace. And so it looks like they're well

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Speaker 8: underway towards that and hopefully it continues.

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Speaker 1: Amen to that, Congressman Warren Davidson, I certainly appreciate your

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Speaker 1: willingness to join my listeners of me and have a

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Speaker 1: discussion on these important issues. And I truly appreciate you

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Speaker 1: and your standing on these matters as an elected official.

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Speaker 1: We need more people like Congressman Warren Davidson, and I

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Speaker 1: want to thank all of your voters for putting you

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Speaker 1: in office, and hopefully we'll have continued great relations with

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Speaker 1: you here on the fifty five Carise Morning. Should Congressman Davidson.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, always an honor. Thanks Brian God bless you and

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Speaker 8: all your listeners.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Right back at you. Coming up next, Senator

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Speaker 1: Ran Paul. God kars the talk station seven thirty fifty

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Speaker 1: five krc DE Talk station. Havey Friday. Even Brian Thomas here,

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Speaker 1: welcoming back. I've got some favorites in elected office in DC.

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Speaker 1: One of them Congressman Thomas mass You can get the

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Speaker 1: podcast in my conversation with Thomas Massey from yesterday at

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Speaker 1: my podcast page fifty five caresee dot com and yes,

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Speaker 1: my next guest, Senator Ran Paul. Thank you to the

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Speaker 1: residents of the Commonwealth can Ucky for both of those men.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Senator Paul. It's a pleasure having you on

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Speaker 1: the show today.

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Speaker 9: Good morning, Brian, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Another bite at the apple. Another resolution shot down. Senate

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Speaker 1: said fifty four to forty five no, rejecting the proposal

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01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 1: to continuing resolution and funding levels at Biden Era level,

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Speaker 1: which passed in the House. You were one I think

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Speaker 1: you were the only the lone Republican to vote against

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Speaker 1: yesterday's measure. My listeners are aware that this is all

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Speaker 1: revolving around the Democrats desire to continue COVID era tax credits,

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Speaker 1: which covids over. This comes at a very expensive cost

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Speaker 1: of the American taxpayer and also allows illegal immigrants to

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Speaker 1: get hooked up to Obamacare. Now, with that in mind,

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Speaker 1: explain to my listeners your rationale for saying no yesterday

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Speaker 1: and previously.

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Speaker 9: You know I'm against the Obamacare subsidies. I've voted against

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Speaker 9: every addition to Obamacare since the very beginning, and we'll

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Speaker 9: continue to oppose that. What we had before us, though,

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Speaker 9: is two different spending proposals. One is a Democrat proposal.

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Speaker 9: It has the obamacareb these in it, and it also

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Speaker 9: has about a trillion dollars more in spending for a

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Speaker 9: three trillion dollar deficit. So I'm imposed of that package

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Speaker 9: as well. Now. The Republican alternative, though, isn't a lot better.

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Speaker 9: The Republican alternative continues the Biden spending levels from last December,

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Speaker 9: and it will lead to about a two trillion dollar deficit.

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Speaker 9: So basically, the Republicans we have this two trillion in deficit,

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Speaker 9: the Democrats three, and I'm not for either of those,

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Speaker 9: but I've put forward an alternative. My alternative is called

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Speaker 9: the Penny Plan, and they voted on it about two

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Speaker 9: weeks ago, and we had thirty six Republicans, which is

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Speaker 9: the most we've ever had before. Thirty six Republicans supported

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Speaker 9: the Penny Plan, which balances the budget within five years,

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Speaker 9: dramatically reduces the deficit in the first year, and we

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Speaker 9: lost sixteen big government Republicans you can probably guess who

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Speaker 9: they are, and then we lost all the Democrats. So

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Speaker 9: there aren't the numbers yet to do the right thing,

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Speaker 9: but there still has to be somebody up here we

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Speaker 9: as trying to do the right thing and votes against deficits,

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Speaker 9: whether they were Publican or Democrat.

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Speaker 1: How do you see this playing out? Because Wall Street

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Speaker 1: Journal reported that some Republicans are saying, Eh, you might

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01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 1: want to watch what you're doing, Donald Trump, because you're

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01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 1: talking about laying off chunks of employees permanently and closing

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Speaker 1: certain offices of the government through the omb reduction thing

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Speaker 1: that he's mentioned before. I guess I'm wondering what's your

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Speaker 1: take on that. Do you see Republicans capitulating it all.

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Speaker 1: I know there's one proposal out there that you would

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Speaker 1: never vote for which extends these supplements for one year,

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Speaker 1: kicking the can down the road. But what of moving

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Speaker 1: forward with this quote unquote pain Donald Trump is planning

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Speaker 1: on inflicting via the OMB and the layoffs and firings.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Well, when you look at this and you look at

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01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 9: the logic of how people are voting on this, get

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Speaker 9: every Democrat vote in December of last year for these

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01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 9: same spending levels, that's when they first became known as

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Speaker 9: the Biden spending levels. Every Democrat supported him. This is

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Speaker 9: the exact same bill. This is no different than what

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Speaker 9: they voted for, absolutely no difference. I think really the

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Speaker 9: pain is going to be on Democrats to explain why

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Speaker 9: they were for these spending levels before they were against

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Speaker 9: these spending levels, and so I think Republicans should stay

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Speaker 9: the course. I do think eventually the Republicans will capitulate,

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Speaker 9: not me, but the rest of them will probably capitulate

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Speaker 9: and give them the Obamacare subsidies. People have to realize though,

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Speaker 9: also these are not the original subsidies from when Obamacare passed.

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Speaker 9: These were add on subsidies for richer people. So basically

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Speaker 9: a lot of people who don't live in poverty are

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Speaker 9: now getting Obamacare subsidies, significant subsidies only since twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 9: And the reason they're expiring now is not because Republicans

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Speaker 9: are making them expire. The Democrats designed them to expire

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Speaker 9: because of the way the rules are written. The Democrats

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Speaker 9: were spending so much money they had to eventually let

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Speaker 9: these things expire. But now they're playing a game basically

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Speaker 9: trying to blame it on Republicans, when in fact, the

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Speaker 9: Democrats actually wrote the rules such that these subjecties would expire.

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Speaker 1: Now, it's such a clear concept. The idea that the

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Speaker 1: concern and about Donald Trump maybe moving forward with omb

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Speaker 1: reductions is going to provide the Democrats with an argument that, aha,

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Speaker 1: this is why the government shut down because Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: merely wanted to use it as an opportunity to reduce

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Speaker 1: the size and the scope of government. I think that's

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Speaker 1: kind of laughable. They're going to argue about who wins

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Speaker 1: the declaration of who's responsible for the government shutdown, something

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Speaker 1: that really doesn't impact most Americans. I think that's kind

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Speaker 1: of childish to even focus on that one issue the

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Speaker 1: winner loss.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think the Democrats have trouble overcoming the fact

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Speaker 9: that they've already voted for these spending levels and now

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Speaker 9: they're going to vote against the same spending levels. Essentially,

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01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 9: they've moved the goalpost. So these Obamacare subsidies are not

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01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 9: part of the annual spending proposals. They're separate. So they're

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01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 9: trying to drag something in that's expiring. That's expiring because

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01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 9: they wrote the legislation to expire, and they're trying to

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01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:02,799
Speaker 9: drag that into the spending debate. But the spending debate

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01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 9: is pretty clear cut. These are the Biden spending levels,

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Speaker 9: and the Democrats have all voted for them. The rumor

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Speaker 9: is that the Democrats are worried to death about their

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Speaker 9: left flank. They're worried about the socialist flank and the

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Speaker 9: party and the socialists are hot and heavy, you know,

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Speaker 9: for some of these incumbents. So like there's rumors that

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Speaker 9: AOC wants to run against Chuck Schumer. Chuck Schumer is

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01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 9: afraid of his own shadow now and that he will

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01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 9: basically do whatever it takes to show them how strong

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01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,959
Speaker 9: he is. And a lot of people think that there's

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01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 9: a big rally with the Socialists on the mall this

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01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 9: we can yeah, and they think that the Democrats have

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01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:40,640
Speaker 9: to get through that rally, show the people all they

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01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 9: stood up to Republicans, and then they'll have to sort

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01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 9: of put forward something saying, oh, Republicans have agreed to

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01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:49,879
Speaker 9: negotiate on these Obamacare subsidies, and I think the Republicans

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01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 9: are going to negotiate with them. I think they'll declare

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01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 9: victory and then the Democrats allow the government to open.

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Speaker 1: Back up fair enough and pivoting over to you perhaps

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01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 1: being spied on. You among the senators who identified that.

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Speaker 1: Jack Smith launched an inquiry a couple three years after

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Speaker 1: the January first drunken fraternity parties I like to refer

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Speaker 1: to it, but in twenty twenty three he subpoenaed phone

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Speaker 1: records from eight senators and one House member, with no

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Speaker 1: reason to believe any of them were involved in criminal activity.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a profound civil rights violation from

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Speaker 1: my perspective. What's your reaction to this happening, Senator Paul.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, and I think there's going to be repercussions in

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01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 9: the court system against who's doing this. So there's a

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Speaker 9: famous couple famous cases. Riley versus California and Carpenter versus

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01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 9: the US, the Supreme Court decided, and in these cases,

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01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 9: they decided that certain of your records deserved for Amendment protections.

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01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 9: So subpoenas have a lower standard. You can get a

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01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:55,599
Speaker 9: subpoena of people's banking records and phone records without saying

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01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 9: probable cause. What the Supreme Court said was that some

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01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 9: of your records are so private that you should have

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01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:07,719
Speaker 9: for the Amendment protections. And among those records that are private,

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01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 9: or your geolocation. So if I call the phone company

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01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 9: and I want to where's Brian Thomas every moment of

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01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 9: the last week, I can tell a lot about your

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01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:17,800
Speaker 9: life that's really none of my business or none of

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01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 9: the government's business. And I shouldn't be allowed to do

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01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 9: that unless I say, you're committing a crime. And that's

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01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 9: why we you know, we present evidence that you're committing

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01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:28,520
Speaker 9: a crime. And so I think that he did this illegally.

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Speaker 9: I think he did it through a grand jury subpoena.

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01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 9: But the Carpenter case, Supreme Court Justice Roberts actually wrote

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01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 9: that the subpoenas will still be able to get records,

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01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 9: but there will be certain records that have privacy interests

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01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 9: where they'll have to have probable calls and a Fourth

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01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 9: Amendment warrant to do it. And so I think that

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01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 9: absolutely he did something that the court's going to rule against.

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01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 9: And I think these representatives actually have standing against the

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01:30:55,000 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 9: phone company because the phone company basically, unfortunately, the phone

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01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 9: company doesn't do a very good job at defending your

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01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 9: liberty for your records they want, and they just give

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01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 9: them to the government. In fact, the government can wink

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01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:09,759
Speaker 9: at the phone company and they'll give you all your records.

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01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 9: I mean, it's just disgusting. So I hope they do

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01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 9: sue their phone companies. I love business. I love successful business.

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01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:19,799
Speaker 9: I don't like a business it's turning over my private

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01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:21,280
Speaker 9: records to the government without a fight.

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01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 1: No, And they can fight. I mean they've got lawyers

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01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 1: in their massive companies and legal teams that could you say, no,

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01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:29,800
Speaker 1: we can't give you this because of the aforementioned case,

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01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 1: and we're not going to do it because we used

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01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 1: to have the battles when I was in house over

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01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 1: at Anthem, Blue Cross and Blue Shield all the time.

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01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:38,599
Speaker 1: You get subpoenas, so you have an obligation I think

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01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 1: to perfect protect the interests of those individuals who are

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01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:44,519
Speaker 1: working with your company, in this case to get phone service.

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Speaker 1: Senator Rampaul in the late remaining moments of our time together,

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Speaker 1: and I sure appreciate our time together. Your reaction to

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01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:54,640
Speaker 1: the phase one of the Gaza deal. It looks like

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01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 1: Amasa has agreed to release the prisoners. Israel has agreed

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01:31:57,520 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 1: to pull back its forces. It looks like we might

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01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 1: have some cease fire unfolding here. Devil's in the details

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01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 1: that need to be ironed out. But I viewed this

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Speaker 1: as a really positive step.

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Speaker 9: Your reaction, absolutely, And if it's true and the hostages

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01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:13,839
Speaker 9: are free in the next few days or a few hours,

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01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 9: I think everybody will rejoice. If the killing can be

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01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 9: discontinued in guzz that people will rejoice. And I think

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01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:23,599
Speaker 9: this is something that Donald Trump deserves, if it's successful,

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01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:26,680
Speaker 9: deserves a lot of credit for because the one thing

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01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:29,560
Speaker 9: you can't discount about Donald Trump is he has this

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01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 9: force of presence, this this ability to be you know

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01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 9: this sometimes at bully and a China shop, but sometimes

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01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:40,559
Speaker 9: one that will stand up even into our allies like

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01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 9: Israel and say it's time to make a deal. And

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01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 9: I think he has gotten his room to make a deal,

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01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 9: whereas I think that Yahoo Uh struggles to make a

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01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 9: deal because he struggles against criticism at home for being

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01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:54,679
Speaker 9: too soft, which I can't imagine how they can describe

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01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 9: him as to solve. But the thing is, I think

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01:32:56,880 --> 01:33:01,360
Speaker 9: Trump inserting himself in this, I think has hopefully pushed

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01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:04,759
Speaker 9: it on. And you got to wonder why, Howmas wouldn't

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01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 9: you know, settle? I mean, they've been decimated, most of

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01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:09,880
Speaker 9: their leaders have been killed, probably three fourths of their

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01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 9: soldiers or not soldiers, terrorists have been killed. And my

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01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:18,760
Speaker 9: goodness is they could give up the hostages. You know, they're,

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01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,120
Speaker 9: like I say, will rejoice and hopefully they will work

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01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:22,479
Speaker 9: and end well.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be a wonderful thing? And wow, all in

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01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 1: Trump's first term, so much progress, Senator Rampaul.

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01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 9: First year.

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01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:35,440
Speaker 1: It's amazing, it really is. This has been a whirlwind

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01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 1: of activity I've never seen the likes of which in

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01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 1: my entire life. Senator Rampaul, thank you again for your

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01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 1: time today. Keep up the great work and I'll look

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01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:43,559
Speaker 1: forward to having you back on the show real soon.

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01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:47,240
Speaker 1: Thanks bron Take care seven fifty five car se De

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Speaker 1: Talk station. If you look for a world. It's seven

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Speaker 1: fifty here fifty five Case Talks days. Hope you're having

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Speaker 1: a great Friday, eve great Friday. For the empower Use Seminar,

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Speaker 1: We're going to hear from tonight's empower Use Seminar Well

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Speaker 1: speaker Hunter Oswald. He's a writer for the American Spectator.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be talking about gen Z Conservatives and what

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Speaker 1: makes them tick and how gen Z conservatives differ from

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Speaker 1: other generations. Also be talking about the contemporary political crisis,

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Speaker 1: including the meaning of conservatism, and some other observations again

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Speaker 1: American Spectators, Hunter Oswald. He'll join the program at the

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Speaker 1: top of the hour news. Then we'll hear from Iheartneedy

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Speaker 1: aviation expert Jay Ratliffe at eight thirty. I love having

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Speaker 1: Jay back on the show. I missed him last Thursday.

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01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 1: We've got some fun topics to go over with Jay,

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Speaker 1: which is always the case. Time to talk if you

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Speaker 1: want to interject a comment or two five, one, three, seven,

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Speaker 1: T phones. And so we're playing the drinking game tonight.

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Speaker 1: Remember tonight's the debate between aftab pro Ball and Corey Bowman.

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01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 1: It starts at eight pm. Doors open at Xavier Universities

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Speaker 1: James and Carolyn Duff Banquet Center at seven. You must

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Speaker 1: have a ticket. The Enquirer sponsoring this along with Xavier

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Speaker 1: at the Ohio Debate Commission and Cincinnati City Cable. You

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Speaker 1: can watch it wherever City Cable is I've never even

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Speaker 1: heard of it, but also stream it on Local twelve's website,

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01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 1: so there's opportunities for you to watch it from the

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Speaker 1: comfort of your own home if you can't make it there,

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Speaker 1: and there's a whole bunch of rules on it, and

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Speaker 1: I will go. Cincinnati dot Com is the Enquirer's website.

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Speaker 1: All the details about what you can and can't bring.

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Speaker 1: You're not allowed to bring any signs or norse makers

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Speaker 1: inside the center, but you also can't bring political flyers,

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Speaker 1: campaign materials, or signage to distribute or display outside of

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Speaker 1: Cintas Center or on Xavier University property. So I kind

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Speaker 1: of question mark that on First Amendment grounds, but inside

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Speaker 1: the center nothing is allowed. Along those lines. There's decorum

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Speaker 1: rules play nice together as bottom line on that, which

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Speaker 1: I think is wholly appropriate in so far as the

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Speaker 1: drinking game is concerned. Anytime the word trump or maga,

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Speaker 1: this is Joe Strecker's rules and you can feel free

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Speaker 1: to elaborate and make your own rules at home. One

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Speaker 1: shot for trump or maga reference. And if he mentioned

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Speaker 1: if anybody mentions JD. Vance that he is Jdvens's Vance's

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Speaker 1: half brother, you have to chug whatever is remaining in

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Speaker 1: your glass. How about sanctuary cities? Will that get mentioned?

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Speaker 1: Cities a sanctuary city?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 1: You have to have purval declared it. So as I

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Speaker 1: see that, oh, we have a problem with illegal immigrant

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Speaker 1: gangs in our areah. Going back to the quirre Kevin

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Speaker 1: Grosser reporting, three men from Columbia now been charging multiple

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Speaker 1: burglaries in Westchester Township, described as part of a sixth

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Speaker 1: and counting South American burglary gang known to have been

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Speaker 1: targeting area homes. Here burglaries that these guys committed or

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Speaker 1: gals of the case maybe happened between July thirty one

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Speaker 1: August twelfth. Surveillance cameras and licensed plate readers helped authorities

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Speaker 1: catch them all. Four suspects booked at the Butler County Jail.

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Speaker 1: Garcia Salis forty six Heraldo I guess a mononym forty

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Speaker 1: two Rodriguez forty in the US illegally. Did you hear that?

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Speaker 1: In the US? Illegally? They say they burglarized homes in

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Speaker 1: Indian Hill, Montgomery and Amberley Village. Task Force scorek hear

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Speaker 1: in Ohio has already led to charges against members of

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Speaker 1: five separate theft gangs, who were reportedly mostly made up

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Speaker 1: of Chilean nationals. Said they came to the United States

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Speaker 1: legally using tourist y as these Chilean nationals, and then

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Speaker 1: they received training on how to burglarize homes. One of

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Speaker 1: the gangs charged with burglarizing Bengals quarterback Joe Burrows home.

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Speaker 1: You remember that December of last year. Another separate gang

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Speaker 1: targeted homes in Indian Hill, as well as they say

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Speaker 1: wealthy suburbs in Detroit and Indianapolis. Another separate gang accused

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Speaker 1: the committee more than eight burglaries and attempted burglaries in Ohio, Kentucky, Michigan,

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin between August of last year in April this year,

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Speaker 1: stealing more than five million dollars worth of people's property.

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Speaker 1: Westchester Township homes Mason Homes. According to the documents. A

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Speaker 1: gang preyed on business owners of Indian, Middle Eastern and

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Speaker 1: Asian descent as well. So isn't it nice that we

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Speaker 1: have local law enforcement officers picking up people who are

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Speaker 1: responsible for committing crimes and I suspect given the venue

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Speaker 1: of this law enforcement activity. Westchester Township notably that they

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Speaker 1: will cooperate with ICE to the extent they're in our

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Speaker 1: country illegally, Maybe saving the American taxpayer the cost of

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Speaker 1: imprisoning them in our prisons. Perhaps just sending them back

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Speaker 1: to their country of origin will solve the problem. Just

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Speaker 1: food for thought. Stick around on. We're gonna hear from

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Speaker 1: Empower you use Hunter Oswald the Future agen Z Conservatism,

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Speaker 1: followed by Jay Ratliff for the next hour. I sure

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Speaker 1: hebe and wait around to hear those conversations. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I'm a shut down the events of the day, Portland,

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Speaker 2: Chicago violent crime every day it is rue.

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Speaker 1: I'm peace fifty five krs the talk station jibto six.

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Speaker 1: Here at fifty five garri Se the talk station in

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Speaker 1: a very happy Thursday to everyone.

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Speaker 5: My name is Brian Zamas.

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Speaker 1: I'm hosting the fifty five Garricy Morning Show and I

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Speaker 1: am pleased to welcome to the fifty five KRC Morning

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Speaker 1: show Man. It's going to be speaking tonight. Empower You

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Speaker 1: America dot orgs where you sign up for the Empower

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Speaker 1: Youth seminar series. Whether you show up in person, which

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Speaker 1: seven pm tonight, where you're first going to hear I

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Speaker 1: think first from Monty Lobb, who's the executive director of

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Speaker 1: the Christian Business Partnership which does some advocacy and education

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Speaker 1: work on celebrating the sacred idea of religious liberty and

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Speaker 1: Christian employers in their workplace. But you're the keynote speaker tonight.

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Speaker 1: Hunter Oswald, who's joined to me this morning or joining

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Speaker 1: us this morning. Philmbeth Gayzwick's development fellow and research fellow

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Speaker 1: with the American Spectator. You can find them online at

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Speaker 1: Spectator dot or read what they have to say. You'll

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Speaker 1: be glad you did. He contributes articles there on the

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Speaker 1: ground and does some on the ground reporting. He's also

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Speaker 1: written for a variety of other outlets. In addition to writing,

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Speaker 1: he served as the Institute for Faith and Freedom Student

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Speaker 1: Fellow and Conservative Thought, where he researched religious terrorism and

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Speaker 1: insurgency across the world. That topic's not gone away and

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Speaker 1: the importance in addressing national security matters. Tonight an important conversation.

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Speaker 1: He'll be speaking about the future of gen Z conservatism.

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Speaker 1: Hunter Oswald, Welcome to the Morning Show. It's a pleasure

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Speaker 1: to have you on today.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me on, Brian.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's break down these Okay, boomers are nineteen

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Speaker 1: forty six to sixty four. Welcome to me. I'm the

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Speaker 1: first year of jen X, sixty five to eighty. The

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Speaker 1: millennials were born eighty one and ninety six, So gen

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Speaker 1: Z is nineteen ninety seven to twenty twelve, making the

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Speaker 1: folks that you're talking about thirteen twenty eight years old.

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Speaker 1: This is the future of American politics, is it not?

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 4: In fact, gen Z has been really taken in American

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Speaker 4: politics since really the twenty twenty four election. I mean,

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Speaker 4: if you want to be even farther back to twenty twenty,

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Speaker 4: but twenty twenty four, this past election cycle, we really

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Speaker 4: saw major shifts in gen Z when it came to

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Speaker 4: who voted for who, because traditionally speaking, gen Z has

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Speaker 4: always been perceived as way more progressive that than people thought. Yes,

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Speaker 4: but when twenty twenty four Halt twenty four, we saw

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Speaker 4: Trump game six percent of that vote compared to twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: So we are definitely seeing gen Z as having a

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Speaker 4: major hold in American politics as of now.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're following this quite closely. What do you hear

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Speaker 1: from the I'll call them converts. You know, he who

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Speaker 1: is not from the left as a youth has no heart,

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Speaker 1: He who is not from the right as an adult

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Speaker 1: has no brain. Obviously they're waking up at a much

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Speaker 1: younger age. What's driving this more conservative shift?

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Speaker 4: Hunter, Yeah, So what is basically driving this shift is

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Speaker 4: the combination of stuff, and one of them is what

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Speaker 4: we are definitely seeing is somewhat of a religious revival

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Speaker 4: in America that is taking more a traditional approach to issues,

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Speaker 4: whether that's on abortion, transgenderism, all the more social issues

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Speaker 4: we are definitely seeing amongst gen Z. But also I

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Speaker 4: would say one of the things as a gen Z

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Speaker 4: individual myself, is just the major skepticism of our institutions,

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Speaker 4: and people are like, okay, Hunter or gen Z, why

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Speaker 4: you say skeptical, Well, basically since the day we're born,

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Speaker 4: if you want to really get like you said nineteen

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Speaker 4: ninety seven and for me like two thousand and one,

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Speaker 4: gpticism is kind of part of our nature where you've

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Speaker 4: had politicians from say right and left or really Democrat

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Speaker 4: Republican that have told us, hey, if you do certain things,

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Speaker 4: we'll give you this and that, and we haven't seen anything.

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Speaker 4: We've been told everything, we've been promised to everything, and

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Speaker 4: none of that's happened. So there is certainly a skepticism

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Speaker 4: within gen Z towards intutions like Congress, the presidency, and

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Speaker 4: even the Spring Court. And that has translated into an

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Speaker 4: approach that seeks, hey, why do we want to give

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Speaker 4: more power over to these institutions that have lied to us? Yes,

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Speaker 4: and that's also been a major driver towards conservative and

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Speaker 4: also just the simple desire for truth. We've been told

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Speaker 4: to think a certain way, you know, not to question

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Speaker 4: our folks in the classroom, and then when we try

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Speaker 4: to actually have a discussion about issues, we are actually

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Speaker 4: diving in these issues way more than people anticipated. We

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Speaker 4: want the truth and we don't want these institutions to

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Speaker 4: say you're going to think a certain way or else.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's interesting, and I suspect that, I know one

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Speaker 1: of the things you're going to be talking about, and

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Speaker 1: in addition to the meaning of conservatism, talking about what

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Speaker 1: issues are really critical to this movement, but the role

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Speaker 1: of technology. I mean, I'm in that that that generation

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Speaker 1: hunter that if you really wanted to pay attention to politics,

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Speaker 1: you had to subscribe to magazines, you know, like The

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Speaker 1: New Republic or Atlantic, or you know, subscribe to major newspapers.

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Speaker 1: You had to get a copy of the Wall Street Journal,

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Speaker 1: you had to watch the McNeil LAIRIR News Hour on

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Speaker 1: Sundays if you wanted any substantive conversation. So it was

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Speaker 1: easy to gloss over it. We have the Internet, welcome

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Speaker 1: to reality in this modern day and age. And I

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Speaker 1: suspect because kids spend young people, I would argue, spend

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Speaker 1: a lot of time on social media, they're actually engaging

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Speaker 1: in political discourse and following the issues that are impacting them.

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Speaker 1: It's created a wonderful opportunity for them to educate themselves.

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Speaker 1: In spite of what the left wants to how they

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Speaker 1: want to control them precisely.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean one of the jokes we say about gen

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Speaker 4: Z as Generation Zoomer because we are the digital kids.

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Speaker 4: You know, you had your millennials prior that were like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: we're finally getting the Internet. But then now the gen

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Speaker 4: Z my group is now signed, we have social media.

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Speaker 4: We have way more platforms to engage people in ways

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Speaker 4: that I don't think many of us original thought could

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Speaker 4: be even possible. And that's why you're seeing a lot

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Speaker 4: of people on social media, whether that's X, Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, TikTok,

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Speaker 4: all those platforms right now are being used to spread

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Speaker 4: more information than I think anybody could imagine. I think

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Speaker 4: that's also where the rise of conservatives is just the

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Speaker 4: fact that social media is offering an alternative to the mainstream. Indeed,

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Speaker 4: you can actually have you can actually have discourse without

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Speaker 4: major networks studying it down overnight and saying well, if

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Speaker 4: you have the wrong opinion, you can't say this. Well, no,

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Speaker 4: we want a platform, and these alternative media is providing

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Speaker 4: that platform for gen Z.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, unlimited amount of material, and we get to be

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Speaker 1: our own editor in terms of what material we choose

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Speaker 1: to consume and digest. We're not being dictated to by

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Speaker 1: some behind the scenes person and some probably left leaning

1877
01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:00,840
Speaker 1: network who's picking and choosing what informa to feed us.

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Speaker 1: It's all out there for anybody who chooses to want

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Speaker 1: to go after it. I gotta hit on something, Hunter,

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Speaker 1: as I want to ask you this directly because I

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Speaker 1: think it is probably, if not the one of the

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Speaker 1: primary mechanisms for this awakening young people are having, and

1883
01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:19,400
Speaker 1: this rejection of leftist ideology. And you mentioned it before,

1884
01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 1: this idea that we need to accept someone's personal choice

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Speaker 1: on what gender they are. Now, I don't care personally

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Speaker 1: that there are transgenders in the world.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: I can live under that umbrella as long as you're

1889
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Speaker 1: not forcing me to say out loud that yes, they

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Speaker 1: are indeed a sex that they're not born with. I'm

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Speaker 1: a purist when it comes to medicine X and y

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Speaker 1: X and a X determined your sex period, end of story.

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Speaker 1: You want to believe you're somebody else, hey, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: But you can't force me to say you're a woman

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Speaker 1: if you're a guy, and you shouldn't be allowed in

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Speaker 1: a female locker room if you're a guy. There's a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of risk that goes along with that. Is

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Speaker 1: that as prominent a reason for this conservative shift as

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of perceiving it to be, because it's like

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Speaker 1: the biggest batcrap in scene element out there, almost on

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Speaker 1: the left hand side of the ledger.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think you're even wrong about that, because

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Speaker 4: even I I would essentually I would actually agree with that,

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Speaker 4: because what you're seeing is the left, especially in our institutions,

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Speaker 4: has hit so hard with these radical ideologies. You know,

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Speaker 4: like you said, you know, somehow a man can become

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Speaker 4: a woman and vice versa, or if you use the

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Speaker 4: wrong pronoun or mischigender, somebody like you see in Colorado,

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Speaker 4: you can actually be arrested or be denied service from

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Speaker 4: senior kids in corn You know, you have all these

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Speaker 4: radical proposals, and it's like, look, we don't care if

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Speaker 4: you're gay or lesbian or a transition. We really don't care.

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Speaker 4: Just don't impose your ideology on somebody and force them

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Speaker 4: into something they don't simply agree with. Right, Nobody, I

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Speaker 4: would say gen Z in some ways is kind of

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Speaker 4: mix of conservatives but also libertarians.

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Speaker 1: There libertarians, that's me. I'm a little el litertarian hunter

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Speaker 1: with Oswald I. I I think we can all play

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Speaker 1: nicely under the under the under the banner of freedom,

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Speaker 1: you know, the right to control our own individual destinies

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Speaker 1: without intruding into someone else's life. Hell, yes, I'll go

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Speaker 1: for that all day, man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, but yeah, I mean it's kind of

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Speaker 4: and that's where I would describe gen Z in some

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Speaker 4: way as a fusion Like we've heard this, you know,

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Speaker 4: amongst conservative fusionism between conservative ideas and groups with libertarians,

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Speaker 4: and that's been there for a long time, but I

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Speaker 4: think it's certainly growing again, and especially you're seeing that

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Speaker 4: in gen Z because like I've said and others have said,

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Speaker 4: is we don't care if you or this or that,

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Speaker 4: just don't impose your will or use the state for government.

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Speaker 4: How do you want to call them to put your

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Speaker 4: ideas on us and then say if you don't follow

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Speaker 4: our rules, if you don't like what we you have

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Speaker 4: we have for you to say, then we're going to

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Speaker 4: shut you out. We're not going to give you these privileges.

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Speaker 4: We're not going to allow you to practice your fundamental

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Speaker 4: rights as a human being. Because I think at the

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Speaker 4: end of the day, what conservatism offers that the progressives

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Speaker 4: they don't is given an idea of what is human dignity,

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Speaker 4: what is being able to be free to do what

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Speaker 4: you'd want to do, so long as you're not infringing

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Speaker 4: on other people's right to do the same. And I

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Speaker 4: think that's where gen Z is finally realizing conservatism. Libertarianism

1945
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Speaker 4: is offering that alternative, and it's always been there, it's

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Speaker 4: just our institutions haven't been willing to say, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 4: they got a point, because progressism is a fundamentally denial

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Speaker 4: of what those ideals, those universal truths.

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Speaker 1: Are indeed, and of course when you're a Marxist, you

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Speaker 1: hate religion, the concept of something higher power than the government.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the Founding fathers were well aware of that.

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Speaker 1: That's why we have inalienable rights in the Bill of Rights.

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Speaker 1: They are God given rights. And if you don't believe

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Speaker 1: in God, you can still believe in that concept. Consider

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Speaker 1: the state of nature, as I point out all the time,

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Speaker 1: if you're play down in the middle of field magically

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Speaker 1: by the flying spaghetti monster and born in as where

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Speaker 1: there is no one around you, you can literally do

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Speaker 1: anything you want as soon as another human being lands

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Speaker 1: next to you. Then you have to observe their rights

1961
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Speaker 1: and freedoms. You can't harm them, they can't harm you.

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Speaker 1: But can you defend yourself? Yes, in natural law you can.

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Speaker 1: Can you go out and feed yourself, Yes you can.

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Speaker 1: It's that whole idea of natural law, and that's you know,

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Speaker 1: it springs from sometimes a religious ideology. I guess I'm

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Speaker 1: just wondering. Like turning point, Usa, Charlie Kirk very religious guy.

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Speaker 1: His political message was cloaked in faith, but he wasn't

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Speaker 1: trying to force you to be a Christian. He was

1969
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Speaker 1: trying to explain the value of it for you as

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Speaker 1: an individual. It's uplifting, It gives you hope, it gives

1971
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Speaker 1: you freedom, it gives you I mean, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of reasons that he encouraged Christianity, but he wasn't going

1973
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Speaker 1: to force you to become Christian. Just say out loud,

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Speaker 1: Hunter that you're a Christian immediately results in this venomous

1975
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Speaker 1: attack by the left. Is stupid. What do you believe in?

1976
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Speaker 1: The in the philag Spagheti monster too and they just

1977
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Speaker 1: immediately attack you merely because you're a person of faith.

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Speaker 1: Is is it a reaction from young people to now

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Speaker 1: start turning to faith because of that response. I mean,

1980
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Speaker 1: you know what, that's ridiculous, and I'm gonna look into

1981
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Speaker 1: this concept of faith and religion.

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Speaker 4: Precisely.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, gen Z is definitely being a revival in faith,

1985
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Speaker 4: especially towards Christianity. So me personally, I'm a Roman Catholic.

1986
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Speaker 4: I've been a Roman Catholic since the day i was born.

1987
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Speaker 4: I'm proud to be Roman Catholic. Now people would say, Hunter,

1988
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Speaker 4: what about you know, the Catholic Church and stuff, because

1989
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Speaker 4: that's one of the argument today before young people who

1990
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Speaker 4: are going towards say more traditional Masses or traditional Christianity

1991
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Speaker 4: amongst gen Z and they like you said, all you're superstitious.

1992
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Speaker 5: What do you believe in?

1993
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Speaker 4: It's like, look what the Blessed has done for the

1994
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Speaker 4: past few decades is promote this idea of pure secularism

1995
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Speaker 4: that somehow faith should be entirely separate from political, even

1996
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Speaker 4: at more or less even cultural life. And they've been

1997
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Speaker 4: promoted in this new idea called new atheism, which you

1998
01:52:13,680 --> 01:52:16,799
Speaker 4: hear people would say like you're rich your Dawkins, you're

1999
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Speaker 4: Christopher Higginson's who are saying that you know, faith is

2000
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Speaker 4: not just useless, it's fundamentally dangerous to society because it

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Speaker 4: promotes quote, these superstitions that bring us backwards and away

2002
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Speaker 4: from science. Well, it's like, look, if you look at Christianity,

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Speaker 4: it has been immensely impassible for human dignity. It is

2004
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Speaker 4: promoted those universal truths that have allowed us to enjoy

2005
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Speaker 4: the very freedoms we have today. I mean, we see

2006
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Speaker 4: this as you know Thomas Aquinas who argues that you know,

2007
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Speaker 4: reason and faith are one and the same. The ability

2008
01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:52,960
Speaker 4: to reason is a gift from God. So when you

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01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:57,679
Speaker 4: have young people today being told that being religious or

2010
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Speaker 4: being a person of faith is backward, they fundamentally deny

2011
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Speaker 4: the fruits of what and the very wisdom of Western civilization.

2012
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Speaker 4: They deny the very principles that allow us to get

2013
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:13,240
Speaker 4: to this very own place. What's and that's the best

2014
01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:15,920
Speaker 4: part about being a person of face is you see

2015
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Speaker 4: all this once you open your eyes. Because another important

2016
01:53:19,240 --> 01:53:23,439
Speaker 4: thing is what new atheism failed, that is driving gen

2017
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Speaker 4: z towards faiths. It's failed to give us purpose. Why

2018
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Speaker 4: are we here on this earth? Why are we doing

2019
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:32,639
Speaker 4: the things we're doing? What is our ultimate goal in life?

2020
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Speaker 4: And religion? Has offers those answers. New atheism failed to

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01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:42,640
Speaker 4: funamlity address that question, which is what purpose do we

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01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:45,439
Speaker 4: have in our lives under Oswald?

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Speaker 1: It's going to be an amazing conversation. Empoweroamerica dot org

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Speaker 1: for all the details. Get registered before seven pm the

2025
01:53:50,640 --> 01:53:53,120
Speaker 1: night show up in person at the empower use some

2026
01:53:53,200 --> 01:53:56,360
Speaker 1: of our studios again three hundred great oaks drive side

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Speaker 1: annex entrances where you enter or watch from home. Hunter,

2028
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Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough for what you're doing. And

2029
01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:04,720
Speaker 1: maybe you just now stumbled upon the reality of why

2030
01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:09,000
Speaker 1: they hate religion because that Christian faith through Judeo Christian

2031
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:12,439
Speaker 1: ethic built Western civilization. What are the Marxists and leftists

2032
01:54:12,439 --> 01:54:16,000
Speaker 1: hate more than anything in the world Western civilization period?

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Speaker 1: End of story. So we got to attack the root

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Speaker 1: cause of it. Maybe that's one of the reasons.

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Speaker 4: Why absolutely yeah, no, and and I hope to see

2036
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Speaker 4: everybody there, and we'll be having even more discussions about

2037
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Speaker 4: what conservatives that means means today for gen Z, the

2038
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:34,080
Speaker 4: future of gen Z conservative as such, and what can

2039
01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:37,240
Speaker 4: we learn especially to bridge the gap between order conservatives,

2040
01:54:37,280 --> 01:54:40,960
Speaker 4: younger since conservatives and hopefully bring about even brighter future

2041
01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:42,320
Speaker 4: for everybody.

2042
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Speaker 1: From boomers to millennials to the gen zers. Get everybody

2043
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Speaker 1: watching this seminar, Hunter Oswall to wish you the best

2044
01:54:48,040 --> 01:54:49,400
Speaker 1: on to keep up the great work. Maybe you and

2045
01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:51,240
Speaker 1: I can talk again sometime down the road here on

2046
01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:52,839
Speaker 1: the fifty five KRC Morning Show.

2047
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Speaker 4: Would be more than what Hey, thank you again Brian

2048
01:54:56,200 --> 01:54:56,680
Speaker 4: for having me.

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Speaker 1: On My pleasure man. Enjoy the seminar tonight. It's eight

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Speaker 1: twenty one right now, folks. Jay Rattler C Detalk Station.

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Speaker 1: It is a very happy Thursday, as it always is

2052
01:55:04,240 --> 01:55:05,880
Speaker 1: at this time because we get to talk to unless

2053
01:55:05,880 --> 01:55:08,840
Speaker 1: he's on vacation like last week or out. I heart

2054
01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:12,120
Speaker 1: media aviation expert Jay Roratliff. Welcome back, my friend. You

2055
01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:13,160
Speaker 1: know I love talking with you.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:19,160
Speaker 10: You take one vacation in a blue moon, somebody smacking

2058
01:55:19,200 --> 01:55:21,400
Speaker 10: your chops could be back.

2059
01:55:21,640 --> 01:55:23,440
Speaker 1: I can't wreck. I don't think we had anybody filling

2060
01:55:23,480 --> 01:55:25,720
Speaker 1: in for this segment in the last week's show, so

2061
01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:27,600
Speaker 1: you sort of leave me to my own devices, and

2062
01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:30,440
Speaker 1: I'd much rather have a guest on. And I love

2063
01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:33,680
Speaker 1: our conversations because again they typically are light. But let's

2064
01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:35,680
Speaker 1: start with one that's not so light. Oh my god,

2065
01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:41,560
Speaker 1: We're all gonna die. According to the US Travel Association president,

2066
01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:45,160
Speaker 1: a guy named Joff Freeman. He said US Travel Association,

2067
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:49,040
Speaker 1: this is costing US one billion dollars in a counter week.

2068
01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:52,839
Speaker 1: Travel is inovation longer, tsa line, flight delays, airports reducing flights,

2069
01:55:53,160 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 1: entire controlled covers going dark longer. This drags on the

2070
01:55:55,920 --> 01:55:58,360
Speaker 1: worst cascade. The damage will be for local communities, for

2071
01:55:58,400 --> 01:56:01,320
Speaker 1: small businesses, and for the country. His group claims US

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01:56:01,400 --> 01:56:04,960
Speaker 1: economy lost one or losing one billion dollars per week

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Speaker 1: because of those issues. Yet Willie Wallace, a director and

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01:56:08,920 --> 01:56:13,720
Speaker 1: general airline lobby group the International Air Transportations Association, said no,

2075
01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:17,440
Speaker 1: there's been no significant disruption. There has been no stop

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Speaker 1: in the recruitment of new air traffic controllers. There were

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01:56:19,640 --> 01:56:23,080
Speaker 1: no significant impacts to date. So who's right on this one? Jay?

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Speaker 10: I'm assuming the former did not vote for Donald Trump.

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01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:30,960
Speaker 10: That's just going out there on a limb. But the

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Speaker 10: last few days I've had several TV and radio interviews

2081
01:56:35,080 --> 01:56:37,880
Speaker 10: where people are freaking out over the fact that the

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01:56:37,920 --> 01:56:42,040
Speaker 10: Burbank Airport had no air traffic controllers and we had

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Speaker 10: to pivot and have another air traffic control center. Take

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01:56:45,160 --> 01:56:47,480
Speaker 10: care of the arrivals and departures at that airport. It's

2085
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:50,760
Speaker 10: as though this guy is falling. It happened in Nashville

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01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:53,400
Speaker 10: where we had a shortage, so and of course I've

2087
01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:55,760
Speaker 10: got my referee shirt on the whistle and I'm blowing

2088
01:56:55,800 --> 01:56:58,360
Speaker 10: a time out trying to get these people to stop,

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01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:01,640
Speaker 10: so I can tell them that in the last nine months, Brian,

2090
01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:03,960
Speaker 10: that's happened a thousand times, right.

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Speaker 1: Well, and didn't Bourbon close a bunch of times in

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Speaker 1: events of this as well, because.

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Speaker 10: It does, it does, and we've got we've got redundancies,

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Speaker 10: we've got sistems in place, procedures in place, and it's like,

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01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:16,800
Speaker 10: wait a minute, if this is such a big time issue,

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01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:21,120
Speaker 10: now where were you the other thousand times it happened

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01:57:21,520 --> 01:57:25,120
Speaker 10: in just the last nine months. So it's it's an

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01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:30,560
Speaker 10: obvious to me and not surprisingly moved by people that

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01:57:30,640 --> 01:57:34,000
Speaker 10: are trying to push back on the administration saying that

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Speaker 10: you know, this is endangering the lives of everybody who flies,

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Speaker 10: and it's it's it's a horrific time to fly, and

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Speaker 10: all this is taking place, and I'm saying, no, it's

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Speaker 10: being brought upon because we have a shortage of bear

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Speaker 10: traffic controllers, period, and that's why all of those thousand

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Speaker 10: occurrences took place, and that's why it's happening now.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 10: It's a little bit different now, And Brian, I can

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Speaker 10: certainly understand. You have a lot of men and women

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Speaker 10: who are going to get a partial paycheck on Tuesday

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Speaker 10: the fourteenth, and then two weeks at after that, on

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Speaker 10: the twenty eight they're going to get hit no paycheck.

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Speaker 10: And these air traffic controllers are being asked to show

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Speaker 10: up to work and their pay is to be delayed.

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Speaker 10: And some of them are saying, and I know this

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Speaker 10: to be the case. I've got bills to pay, I've

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Speaker 10: got to put food on the table, and I don't

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Speaker 10: have six weeks of income saved up. I do have

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Speaker 10: a secondary job. I can go do that. I'll get

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Speaker 10: paid right now. For so I'm going to call in

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Speaker 10: sick even though I don't want to, and I'm going

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Speaker 10: to go work where I know I'm gonna get paid.

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Speaker 10: So I've got the money to survive on because that's

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Speaker 10: what I'm forced to do. So I'm certainly not going

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Speaker 10: to fault the men and women if that's the route

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Speaker 10: they've got to go. To the air traffic controllers. They're

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Speaker 10: already overworked, they're being forced into overtime, they're morale is down,

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Speaker 10: they're using equipment that is just beyond archaic. So there's

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Speaker 10: a lot of things right there that I do understand.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 10: I wish they wouldn't do it because that puts a

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Speaker 10: strain on the people that they're working with. But when

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Speaker 10: it comes down to should I be there for my

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Speaker 10: teammates that I'm working with, or do I need to

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Speaker 10: make sure I've got food on the table for my kids,

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Speaker 10: I'm sorry, I know which way that's going to go

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Speaker 10: each and every time. So the bottom line is we're

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Speaker 10: six weeks away from the busiest travel week of the year.

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Speaker 10: We've got to get this resolved now so that we

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Speaker 10: don't get into November and start having an issue with

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Speaker 10: uh oh, having this type of a scenario take place

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Speaker 10: when it's the busiest travel time, that's when we will

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Speaker 10: have a problem.

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Speaker 1: We'll continue with iHeartMedia aviation expert Jay Ratliff, including a

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Speaker 1: common or two on West Jet figuring out yet another

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Speaker 1: way to anger its passengers eight thirty five Right now

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Speaker 1: fifty five k c DE talk station see a thirty

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Speaker 1: seven fifty five car CD talk station. iHeart meat. Aviation

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Speaker 1: expert Jay Ratliff definitely has. We are fortunate to have

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Speaker 1: them every week on the fifty five CARSCEN Morning Show

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Speaker 1: beginning at eight thirty through the end of the program.

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Speaker 1: And let's pivot over to cigarettes buggling. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: the Russians are shutting down airspace. It's the Chinese Communist

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Speaker 1: Party with a drone strike. Uh, maybe it isn't. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's people who don't want to pay taxes on cigarettes.

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Speaker 1: This is kind of crazy.

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Speaker 5: Jay.

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Speaker 1: I saw the reporting on this when it first came out,

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Speaker 1: a cigarette delay.

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Speaker 10: You know, I'm trying to figure out what delay code

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Speaker 10: we could have used with this. But he had an

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Speaker 10: airport Lithuania shut down because of the fact that it

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Speaker 10: was unsafe for aircraft to approach the airport because they

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Speaker 10: had I think it was twenty five balloons, large ones

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Speaker 10: that had been lifted off that were in essence carrying

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Speaker 10: cigarettes that were being smuggled, and it affected about thirty

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Speaker 10: some flights that were coming in. They said thousands of

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Speaker 10: passengers were impacted by this because the fact that they

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Speaker 10: had so many balloons in that airspace that represented a

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Speaker 10: problem for approaching aircraft, and it's you know, I think

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Speaker 10: the only other bizarre kind of story would be like

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Speaker 10: if you went back a gazillion years ago to the

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Speaker 10: man that put a bunch of balloons, healing balloons onto

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Speaker 10: his lunchair and lifted himself up.

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Speaker 1: I remember that, and up and up, Brian.

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Speaker 10: I think he he got up to like fifteen thousand feet.

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Speaker 10: I'm crazy in a lawn chair.

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Speaker 1: Did he have a big did he have an air

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Speaker 1: rifle with him to shoot the balloon one of the time?

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Speaker 5: That way he could come down.

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Speaker 10: His wife's on the radio, tell him to come down.

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Speaker 9: And look.

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Speaker 10: I was a skydiver for a bunch of years, but

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Speaker 10: I'm not a big fan of heights, So the thought

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Speaker 10: is going up in a lawn chair to any altitude

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Speaker 10: like that. I mean, I'm sorry, that's just crazy. But yes,

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Speaker 10: the cigarette smuggling balloon situation that shut down an airport

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Speaker 10: is certainly one of the reasons I'll never tell you

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Speaker 10: that that you know, I've seen it all because you

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Speaker 10: never underestimate people in what they're capable of doing.

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Speaker 1: Ever, no doubt about it. And I guess it's kind

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Speaker 1: of funny that was an extraordinarily low budget smuggling effort,

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Speaker 1: considering they just used helium balloons. If they had gotten

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Speaker 1: an actual drone, they probably would have been far more

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Speaker 1: successful getting the cigarettes to the location they wanted to

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Speaker 1: send them to.

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Speaker 10: That's kind of hard to control where a balloon goes

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Speaker 10: to somebody, I know, yeah, and where they're going to

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Speaker 10: land and such. So I guess it's a crapshoot which

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Speaker 10: way things are going to go.

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Speaker 5: But you know who knows.

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Speaker 10: You probably laugh at the people that were doing it

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Speaker 10: because they may not have had well, they had enough

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Speaker 10: intelligence to get the thing's airborn, So I got to

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Speaker 10: give them credit for that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And you're how many? I hate to put you

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Speaker 1: on the spot, but I know how would you are?

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Speaker 1: You don't have to say it. Let me a cur

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Speaker 1: How many decades have you been in the aviation business field? Expertise,

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Speaker 1: knowledge and that kind of thing. How long have you

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Speaker 1: been following closely aviation?

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Speaker 10: Well, I started working in nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 5: One, in October. Okay, so I've been associate.

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Speaker 10: I've been associated with the airline industry going back to

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Speaker 10: just after deregulation took place in nineteen seventy eight.

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Speaker 1: On planes, in planes, in management, and variety of different roles.

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Speaker 1: You've seen it all, so I guess that's the predicate

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Speaker 1: for my question. Not all, but yeah, Well, like cigarette smuggling, balloons,

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Speaker 1: say down airports, every day is a new day with

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Speaker 1: that caveat. I see another article headline drunk New Jersey's

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Speaker 1: sisters arrested after meltdown for being kicked off Frontier Airline's

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Speaker 1: flight and attacking a worker. And this is all on

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Speaker 1: body camera footage. Now, this is one among a seemingly

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Speaker 1: endless number of incidents like this where people get out

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Speaker 1: of hand, they start getting all punching and fighty and belligerent,

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Speaker 1: and they get chucked off of an airline. Is it

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Speaker 1: just the internet and pervasive, ubiquitous nature of cell phone

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Speaker 1: cameras that we are aware of this, or has this

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Speaker 1: a newer phenomenon? Is this becoming far more frequent because

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Speaker 1: people getting kind of disrespectful of authority figures and really

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Speaker 1: not have any sense of ethics and morality. That is

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Speaker 1: a common problem across the board that appears to be growing.

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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, in so far as airline incidents, is

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Speaker 1: it a growing phenomenon?

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Speaker 10: I think to a certain degree, it is, but it's not.

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Speaker 10: I mean, we were dealing with it back in the eighties,

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Speaker 10: rights in the nineties, because we would always have individuals

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Speaker 10: that had a disrespect for authority, didn't want to be

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Speaker 10: told what to do, and different types of things where

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Speaker 10: they were just absolute, very difficult people to work with.

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Speaker 10: And sadly, sometimes that took place when the aircraft was airborne.

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Speaker 10: A lot of times it was alcohol involved, and you

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Speaker 10: had a lot of situations that required us to kind of,

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Speaker 10: you know, pivot with regards to what was going on

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Speaker 10: with the aircraft, the operations, or.

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Speaker 5: Things of this nature.

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Speaker 10: It becomes much more of an issue now because with

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Speaker 10: the advent of everybody having the ability or to record

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Speaker 10: what's happening and then post it immediately, where a situation

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Speaker 10: goes viral, not once it hits the mainstream press, but

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Speaker 10: once it hits social media and it's shared around the world,

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Speaker 10: it becomes much more of an issue that people are

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Speaker 10: aware of, and sadly, we're seeing, you know, more and

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Speaker 10: more examples of this front and center, where you've got

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Speaker 10: these individuals that are telling uniform flight attendant they're not

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Speaker 10: going to do what they're being told to do, which

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Speaker 10: is a federal offense. Are causing a situation where an

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Speaker 10: aircraft is delayed in departing, or creates a diversion, or

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Speaker 10: any of these other things. And Brian, it's when you

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Speaker 10: have individuals that attack passengers, shove flight attendants, rush the cockpit,

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Speaker 10: whatever it might happen to be. These people are clearly

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Speaker 10: in individuals that should not be flying on any US

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Speaker 10: carrier in the country. Sadly, these two individuals from Frontier

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Speaker 10: will be banned for life from flying Frontier, thank you.

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Speaker 10: They should be, but they're free to fly any other carrier.

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Speaker 10: And you and I've talked about this so many tis

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Speaker 10: why are we going to allow knowingly these individuals to

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Speaker 10: fly on other carriers? And there needs to be some

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Speaker 10: sort of consequence if you act up, if it's an argument,

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Speaker 10: you're having a bad day. Believe now, I don't want

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Speaker 10: to ban you from flying, but if I shove a

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Speaker 10: flight attendant or I attack a passenger, I should be

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Speaker 10: you know, putting time out fly wise for like three

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Speaker 10: to five years. I don't think that's anything that's outside

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Speaker 10: the the you know, it would be considered extreme here,

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Speaker 10: but airlines won't do it because it costs them money

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Speaker 10: to track it, and that's why they say that they

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Speaker 10: refuse to do it.

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Speaker 1: We got a no fly list, jay ry love. If

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Speaker 1: if they can track no fly lists, which obviously are

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Speaker 1: bigger and contain people who don't deserve to be on

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Speaker 1: the no fly list because of errors in government, they

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Speaker 1: can have a list like this. Is this something the

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Speaker 1: FAA could mandate if they chose to do so.

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Speaker 10: Oh they could, they could. The problem is the airlines

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Speaker 10: tell their government what they're going to do instead of

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Speaker 10: the other way around. And we're in a very residential

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Speaker 10: administration friendly environment here where everybody gets along and everybody

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Speaker 10: kind of can push things. And this is not the administration,

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Speaker 10: even though I'm a big fantom of the Trump administration

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Speaker 10: what he's doing. They're not going to be held accountable

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Speaker 10: and to be forced to do this type of thing,

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Speaker 10: even though they should. And that's why when I see

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Speaker 10: all these CEOs from airlines talking about how much they

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Speaker 10: care about their passengers and employees, I just want to

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Speaker 10: throw up because I'm thinking, stop it, because you're saying

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Speaker 10: one thing and then doing something completely different. If you

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Speaker 10: really cared about your employees and you really wanted to

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Speaker 10: protect them. You would spend whatever money it took to

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Speaker 10: keep these individuals that have been convicted of these types

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Speaker 10: of actions off of your flight, and if it happened

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Speaker 10: on a Southwest flight, you're making sure they don't fly

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Speaker 10: you on American or Delta or United or South South

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Speaker 10: trus whatever it is. But we're not doing it. During

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Speaker 10: the pandemic. The airlines were asked early on to provide

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Speaker 10: and track information and give it to the government, and

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Speaker 10: they said, well, we don't have the main power to

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Speaker 10: do it. And they said, well, this could help us

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Speaker 10: actually prevent the spread of COVID if we could have

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Speaker 10: this information. I'm sorry, we're not going to be able

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Speaker 10: to do it. Again, the airlines telling the government what they're.

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Speaker 5: Going to do instead of the other way around.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. And to your point earlier, I don't care

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Speaker 1: how bad a day you're having. Nothing can justify you

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Speaker 1: assaulting or battering another human being that has no connection

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Speaker 1: with your bad day. Well and more with, we're going

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Speaker 1: to find out how many ways you can anger a

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Speaker 1: c We're West Jet creating a new way to anger

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Speaker 1: its air traffic passengers plus hub delays are going to

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Speaker 1: find out how good it is to travel today more

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Speaker 1: with Jay Ratliff. After this brief word these brief words

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Speaker 1: from plan if any five t c DE talk station

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Speaker 1: one more time, I heart me. The aviation expert Jay

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Speaker 1: Ryloff intentionally held on the the goofiest and the dumbest

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Speaker 1: for the last. Jay, you gave me a heads up

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Speaker 1: on this one yesterday. My reactions is like, you've got

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Speaker 1: to be kidding me. Tell them what west Jet's doing.

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Speaker 5: Now, Well, they have.

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Speaker 10: They've decided to give passengers the opportunity to take advantage

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Speaker 10: of a premium seating option on their flights.

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Speaker 1: Of course that's first class, right, that's first class premium

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Speaker 1: seating they kind.

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Speaker 10: Of I think read find the word premium Brian. In essence,

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02:08:51,360 --> 02:08:53,560
Speaker 10: if you want to seat the reclines, they're going to

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02:08:53,680 --> 02:08:57,520
Speaker 10: charge you more. Now, I mean, we we've talked about,

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02:08:57,600 --> 02:09:00,000
Speaker 10: oh my gosh, what are we being charges for oxygen?

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Speaker 10: It used to be you could take any seat you wanted,

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02:09:02,680 --> 02:09:04,680
Speaker 10: and then they said, you know, people will actually pay

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02:09:04,760 --> 02:09:07,960
Speaker 10: money to get their seats assigned in advance, okay, and

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02:09:08,000 --> 02:09:10,160
Speaker 10: then they said, you know some people prefer window seats

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02:09:10,200 --> 02:09:12,280
Speaker 10: over middle seats, so we can start charging them more

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02:09:12,360 --> 02:09:14,600
Speaker 10: for that you know, some people prefer aisle seats, and

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02:09:14,600 --> 02:09:16,920
Speaker 10: then they decided let's give them a little bit more

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02:09:17,000 --> 02:09:19,040
Speaker 10: leg room, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Now here's

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02:09:19,040 --> 02:09:21,000
Speaker 10: how this is going to be sold to the American

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02:09:21,120 --> 02:09:24,840
Speaker 10: traveling public. So many people, the airlines will say, are

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02:09:24,880 --> 02:09:28,720
Speaker 10: having fights over reclining seats and it's really creating a

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02:09:28,760 --> 02:09:32,720
Speaker 10: customer service problem. So us as the airline, we're going

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02:09:32,760 --> 02:09:35,600
Speaker 10: to make sure that we can alleviate those problems. So

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02:09:35,640 --> 02:09:40,080
Speaker 10: we will make every seat on the airplane incapable of reclining.

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02:09:40,160 --> 02:09:43,680
Speaker 10: We'll have them all this flight angle and everyone will

2351
02:09:43,680 --> 02:09:45,680
Speaker 10: have the same and nobody can recline it. So that's

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02:09:45,680 --> 02:09:47,760
Speaker 10: how we're going to take better care of our customer.

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02:09:48,040 --> 02:09:51,240
Speaker 10: Of course, ps in behind closed doors, they can now

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02:09:51,240 --> 02:09:54,120
Speaker 10: put an extra two rows on every aircraft so they

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02:09:54,120 --> 02:09:57,160
Speaker 10: can make more revenue. Okay, that's the reason they do it.

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02:09:57,440 --> 02:09:59,000
Speaker 10: So now they're going to say, we're going to give

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02:09:59,000 --> 02:10:01,120
Speaker 10: you some premium seat in west Jet I think it's

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02:10:01,160 --> 02:10:03,880
Speaker 10: twelve seats per seven thirty seven that they're going to

2359
02:10:03,960 --> 02:10:07,520
Speaker 10: have this on. You can actually pay for these seats

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02:10:07,520 --> 02:10:10,400
Speaker 10: for the ability to recline, and that's going to be

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Speaker 10: an additional service, and it just you know, and you know,

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02:10:15,280 --> 02:10:19,400
Speaker 10: congratulations to them for finding another way to squeeze more

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02:10:19,440 --> 02:10:22,640
Speaker 10: money out of us. Because from a business standpoint, it's like,

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02:10:23,080 --> 02:10:25,320
Speaker 10: you know, we used to check bags and it didn't

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02:10:25,320 --> 02:10:27,760
Speaker 10: cost us a penny. Now we have to pay for it.

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02:10:28,000 --> 02:10:29,760
Speaker 10: We used to actually be able to carry bags on

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02:10:29,800 --> 02:10:32,640
Speaker 10: an airplane, Now we got to pay for it. We

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02:10:32,680 --> 02:10:34,160
Speaker 10: actually used to be able to sit in the seat

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02:10:34,200 --> 02:10:36,120
Speaker 10: that had a little button that could push us let

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02:10:36,160 --> 02:10:39,160
Speaker 10: our seat recline for free. No, now we're gonna have

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02:10:39,240 --> 02:10:39,920
Speaker 10: to pay for it.

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02:10:40,040 --> 02:10:40,240
Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 10: You watch what's going to happen here. West Jet is

2374
02:10:43,200 --> 02:10:48,760
Speaker 10: the first airline yep, the leader brother, buckle up and

2375
02:10:48,960 --> 02:10:49,959
Speaker 10: brace for impact.

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02:10:50,480 --> 02:10:54,360
Speaker 1: This reminded me of the I think BMWEN the first

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02:10:54,440 --> 02:10:57,120
Speaker 1: automat auto manufacturer. But it's kind of become a popular

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02:10:57,160 --> 02:11:00,840
Speaker 1: thing to equip the cars with all the technology but

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02:11:00,880 --> 02:11:03,360
Speaker 1: then charge you to actually activate it.

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Speaker 5: So doubt. Yeah.

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02:11:04,880 --> 02:11:06,960
Speaker 1: So like a heated seat, it's in there, but you

2382
02:11:07,000 --> 02:11:09,200
Speaker 1: got to pay fifty bucks a month or whatever under

2383
02:11:09,280 --> 02:11:12,360
Speaker 1: some performance package to make it work. So my question,

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02:11:12,480 --> 02:11:14,800
Speaker 1: insofar as the seats are concerned, you mentioned the button,

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02:11:15,120 --> 02:11:18,840
Speaker 1: are they just going to disable the reclined mechanism, so

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02:11:18,920 --> 02:11:21,320
Speaker 1: that saves them having to replace the seats. So the

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02:11:21,360 --> 02:11:24,840
Speaker 1: technologies in there, it's just been blocked out. Or are

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02:11:24,880 --> 02:11:27,240
Speaker 1: they actually going to change the seats out to be fixed.

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02:11:27,880 --> 02:11:29,480
Speaker 5: I don't think they change the seats out.

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02:11:29,520 --> 02:11:31,960
Speaker 10: I think that would make it because it would be

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02:11:32,000 --> 02:11:35,400
Speaker 10: too expensive. But I'll tell you this, as future airplanes

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02:11:35,440 --> 02:11:39,240
Speaker 10: are ordered, you will have airplanes with these seats with

2393
02:11:39,320 --> 02:11:42,360
Speaker 10: the slight recline that there's no way they can be reclined.

2394
02:11:42,680 --> 02:11:44,880
Speaker 10: And of course, some people have these knee blocker type

2395
02:11:44,880 --> 02:11:47,840
Speaker 10: devices that you can buy and I'm not advocating you

2396
02:11:47,920 --> 02:11:50,480
Speaker 10: do this, and you can actually put it in the

2397
02:11:50,880 --> 02:11:53,320
Speaker 10: seat in front of you that prevents the seat from reclining.

2398
02:11:54,480 --> 02:11:58,320
Speaker 10: And yeah, the knee blockers or whatever they're called, if

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02:11:58,400 --> 02:12:00,800
Speaker 10: flight attendants really get upset us when we use them,

2400
02:12:00,800 --> 02:12:02,760
Speaker 10: because when somebody tries to reclient a seat and can't

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02:12:03,040 --> 02:12:05,880
Speaker 10: and has found out what happened, you know, probably the

2402
02:12:05,880 --> 02:12:07,280
Speaker 10: person before you put them on.

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02:12:07,280 --> 02:12:09,800
Speaker 1: They're not you, but right it becomes.

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02:12:09,600 --> 02:12:12,680
Speaker 10: It becomes I'm not suggesting you do this, but it's

2405
02:12:12,720 --> 02:12:15,880
Speaker 10: it's airlines are getting tired of, you know, some of

2406
02:12:15,880 --> 02:12:17,760
Speaker 10: the stuff that flight attendants have to deal with, and

2407
02:12:17,800 --> 02:12:20,920
Speaker 10: certainly flight attendants are getting tired of being the referee

2408
02:12:20,960 --> 02:12:23,680
Speaker 10: between people that reclient seats, don't reclined seats, and all

2409
02:12:23,720 --> 02:12:25,800
Speaker 10: this and that, because there's a lot of arguments and

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02:12:25,840 --> 02:12:29,600
Speaker 10: a lot of the low cost carriers have aircraft that again,

2411
02:12:29,680 --> 02:12:32,200
Speaker 10: the seats don't recline, They've got a slight recline to them,

2412
02:12:32,600 --> 02:12:35,360
Speaker 10: and they're not super comfortable seats, but you're not in

2413
02:12:35,400 --> 02:12:38,600
Speaker 10: them for an extended period of time, and they're lightweight,

2414
02:12:38,720 --> 02:12:40,840
Speaker 10: and they can also put more seats on the airplane.

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02:12:40,880 --> 02:12:42,240
Speaker 5: So that's the case.

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02:12:42,320 --> 02:12:45,600
Speaker 10: But when I when I saw that, I thought, oh,

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02:12:45,680 --> 02:12:48,040
Speaker 10: you gotta be kidding me. One I thought, why didn't

2418
02:12:48,040 --> 02:12:51,920
Speaker 10: I think of that? Because you know it's something, because

2419
02:12:51,960 --> 02:12:54,200
Speaker 10: it's so ridiculous, Sure we're going to do it.

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02:12:55,600 --> 02:12:57,520
Speaker 1: There's a lot of experts I could use on that

2421
02:12:57,720 --> 02:13:01,320
Speaker 1: was because you're not, say, a jerk, you didn't think

2422
02:13:01,320 --> 02:13:04,440
Speaker 1: of that because you would find the concept to be

2423
02:13:04,520 --> 02:13:07,160
Speaker 1: offensive to the consumer. Anyway.

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02:13:07,280 --> 02:13:08,680
Speaker 5: You and I are not wired dead way, brothers.

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02:13:08,800 --> 02:13:11,960
Speaker 1: No we are not. No, we are not, as we

2426
02:13:12,080 --> 02:13:14,560
Speaker 1: always Let's talk about hub delays. What's it looking like

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02:13:14,680 --> 02:13:18,160
Speaker 1: out there today for travel? Jay Ratlift, This entire.

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02:13:17,960 --> 02:13:21,120
Speaker 10: Week has been a mess because especially with some weather

2429
02:13:21,160 --> 02:13:24,080
Speaker 10: that's been coming in off the Northeast. But today is difference,

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02:13:24,240 --> 02:13:27,160
Speaker 10: and I'm thrilled to say the mess in the northeast

2431
02:13:27,160 --> 02:13:30,760
Speaker 10: has gone. Really if if I was getting paid for delays,

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02:13:30,800 --> 02:13:33,440
Speaker 10: it would be it'd be a light day because Seattle

2433
02:13:33,520 --> 02:13:36,080
Speaker 10: is about the only airport hub that's going to be

2434
02:13:36,120 --> 02:13:38,720
Speaker 10: impacted because of weather. Everything else has been pretty well

2435
02:13:38,760 --> 02:13:41,400
Speaker 10: cleared out. Even I think some of the turbulent areas

2436
02:13:41,400 --> 02:13:44,280
Speaker 10: where we could be experienced turbulence have really subsided. So

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02:13:44,320 --> 02:13:46,040
Speaker 10: if you pick the day, you get like a triple

2438
02:13:46,080 --> 02:13:48,800
Speaker 10: gold star because it's just gonna be an incredible day

2439
02:13:48,840 --> 02:13:51,600
Speaker 10: to fly. You pick the perfect perfect day to take

2440
02:13:51,600 --> 02:13:51,760
Speaker 10: to this.

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02:13:51,840 --> 02:13:52,520
Speaker 5: Guys love it.

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02:13:52,600 --> 02:13:54,640
Speaker 1: We can end on a positive note and typically the

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02:13:54,760 --> 02:13:57,560
Speaker 1: entire conversation is positive. Jay Ratlift, love having you on

2444
02:13:57,600 --> 02:13:59,960
Speaker 1: the show Man. Look forward to next Thursday with an

2445
02:14:00,040 --> 02:14:05,400
Speaker 1: other air traffic or a airline report or aviation report,

2446
02:14:05,440 --> 02:14:08,360
Speaker 1: and as always, I hope you and your better half

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02:14:08,360 --> 02:14:10,800
Speaker 1: have a wonderful day and week.