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Speaker 2: David said previously on The Herd.

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Speaker 5: Push, we went Stafford should be the MVP over Drake May,

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Speaker 5: Wherever you may be, however you may be listening or watching.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for making us part of your day. Greg cosell

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Speaker 5: Is going to show up up four or five minutes.

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Speaker 5: So I was thinking about this. I know it's really

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Speaker 5: really early, but the NFL season is over, and once

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Speaker 5: Number two is free agency, and number three is the draft.

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Speaker 5: Those are the primary ways. I think the draft's worth

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Speaker 1: Aren't you the guy that kept complaining that C. J.

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Speaker 5: Forty six years NFL films. There's so much to talk about.

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Speaker 5: You know, I love Sam Donald. You know, I've always

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Speaker 7: Now I thought what Donald did in that game is

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Speaker 1: Two ball behind him.

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Speaker 7: But for the most part, they played well. I thought

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Speaker 7: But you know, it was a close game. Obviously, when

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Speaker 5: You know, Chris Collins were set at halftime, he and Tarico.

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Speaker 5: Drake's not He's not ready, Like this is this right now?

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Speaker 5: Some of that's the pass protection, but he did. Look,

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Speaker 5: Was It just a matter of he just didn't want

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Speaker 7: Backed off the pressure because they they only rushed five

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Speaker 5: The only guarantee I made on the Friday before the

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Speaker 1: On the air, New England will not run the ball.

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Speaker 5: They will, absolutely, that's the and I said, that's why

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Speaker 1: They will.

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Speaker 3: I'm switching the first two because there was nothing when

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Speaker 8: damn that ninety six miles an hour.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which nowadays that's just normal. Yeah, I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: I know it's different guys, do it, man, it's a

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Speaker 4: It's like Pike backing nine, just different level.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 3: It was it was interesting today. I uh, I'm doing

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Speaker 3: This is better for my mental at this point thinking

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Speaker 3: A bottle early.

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Speaker 3: Hey, listen, I'm not gonna judge because we all have

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Speaker 3: We got the days where it's like, man, I just

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Speaker 4: Does it past the tissues? We've all got issues.

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Speaker 4: What's she doing today?

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Speaker 3: We should probably call her to I ain't got anything

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