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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike since he three sixty about Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Here we go Cincy three sixty right here on Cincinnati's

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty. I am neither Tony Pike nor Austin Elmore.

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Speaker 2: The boys are off today for President's Day because you know,

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Speaker 2: they need time off from time to time, and I'm

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Speaker 2: here to give it to them. So I guess I'm

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Speaker 2: Tony today. Sean McMahon on the Ones and Twos gets

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Speaker 2: to be Austin Elmore. Sean, how are you this foggy,

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Speaker 2: kind of gray, loomy Monday afternoon.

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Speaker 3: I'm great because even though it's it's foggy and it's

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Speaker 3: kind of great, beats the heck out of being snowy

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Speaker 2: You know, yes, absolutely correct there, And I mean I was.

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Speaker 4: Like, I've got shorts on right now. This is great.

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Speaker 2: It's not that warm, but I get the principal like

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Speaker 2: sometimes it's a mindset, yeah, and right now my mindset's

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Speaker 2: focused on the warmth and you're not working outside. You're

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Speaker 2: working inside, so you can wear shorts exactly. But have

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Speaker 2: you seen the rest of the week.

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Speaker 4: It looks amazing sixties I saw it, Yeah, potentially projected.

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Speaker 2: Fifty eight Tuesday, sixty six Wednesdays, sixty five Thursday, bring

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Speaker 3: Like, get on, man, because if I'm gonna be working outside,

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Speaker 2: So there you go. Wednesday maybe a little rain, but fine.

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Speaker 2: I can live with one day of rain during the week.

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Speaker 2: I'll take the rainy season over the snowy season any day.

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Speaker 2: And it's it's an off week for me. I'm on

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Speaker 2: a bye this week. The Big twelve schedule as it

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Speaker 2: plays out, no Bearcats this week. They played yesterday. I

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Speaker 2: gotta win over Colorado. We'll talk about that today. Utah

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Speaker 2: or Utah, I mean and on the Colorado Utah same

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Speaker 2: difference bottom of the conference for each other. Gotta win

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Speaker 2: over Utah yesterday and then don't play again until they

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Speaker 2: go to fog Allen Fieldhouse on Saturday.

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Speaker 4: I will tell you this, Sean.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of these sports venues I've been to, and I've

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Speaker 2: been to a lot of sports venues in my forty

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Speaker 2: eight years on this rock. Fog Allen is right up there,

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Speaker 2: if not, the coolest one I've ever been to.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly what Dan and Terry were saying on the air.

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Speaker 3: And I remember you and Tarren, Yeah went to fog Allen,

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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what, man, I'm jealous. It's really

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Speaker 3: one of the meccas, if not the mecca of college basketball.

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Speaker 2: It's right there with Cameron, Yeah, poly Pavilion maybe, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Paully and I've been to Polly Pavilion. It's a cool place,

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Speaker 2: but it doesn't I don't know. There was just something

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Speaker 2: essentially is like the length of the basketball court. That's

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Speaker 2: like a like a museum to Kansas basketball. The championships

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Speaker 2: So I rented a van and took my staff from

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Speaker 4: It was worth it. That's cool.

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Speaker 2: The only problem was it was like it was like this,

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Speaker 4: You see.

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Speaker 2: Playing Alabama in the college football semi finals was very surreal.

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Speaker 2: Walking out onto that field and looking up at the

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm excited for Saturday, but but that's a

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Speaker 2: Uh, winners go first, right, Well, everybody won this weekend

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Speaker 2: gonna talk about the Miami kind of situation. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: we're we're getting to a point with Miami. They win

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Speaker 2: ninety to seventy four over Ohio. Once again, incredible offense

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Speaker 2: difficult to slow down. They go nine of eighteen from three,

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Speaker 2: You know, they kept it close for a while, but

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Speaker 2: And you know, kudos again to try As Steele for

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Speaker 4: They're playing with.

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Speaker 2: Their effective field goal percentage, they're third in the country

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Speaker 2: you know where they are in two point field goal percentage?

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Speaker 4: Sean no idea.

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Speaker 2: Where would you guess in the country in two point

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Speaker 3: Oh like they're ranking overall. I mean based on the

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Speaker 2: Sixty two point four percent from two, sixty two point

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Speaker 4: That's incredible.

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Speaker 2: That's why they're number three in the country in effective

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Speaker 3: And that's where it matters, man. I mean you get

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Speaker 3: free points, yeah, you got. You gotta take points at

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So credit to Travis and his Miami team for what

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Speaker 2: the role of like media mid major darling with this

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Speaker 2: undefeated streak. They're the last undefeated in the country. They've

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Speaker 4: But the past two.

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Speaker 2: Ninety to seventy four over Marshall and then ninety to

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Speaker 2: Bowling Green, Eastern Michigan, Western Michigan, Toledo, and then again Ohio.

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Speaker 2: end the season at Ohio. They are projected to finish

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Speaker 2: the regular season undefeated.

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Speaker 4: Incredible.

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Speaker 2: What we're going to get to here in a little

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Speaker 2: finish the regular season thirty and one, what happens if

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Speaker 2: they don't win the MAC Tournament, Because in terms of metric,

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Speaker 2: in terms of resume, in terms of the things we

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Speaker 2: have always been told, you know, lead at large selection.

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Speaker 2: Miami does not have a quad one game. They have

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Speaker 2: not played a Quad one team. They are one to

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Speaker 2: zero in Quad two, and they are not going to

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Speaker 2: two win through the rest of the regular season. That's

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Speaker 2: a really difficult thread to needle when it comes to

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Speaker 2: at large selection. So we'll dive into that a little

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Speaker 2: bit deeper as we get going in the show. But

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Speaker 2: either way, no matter how you look at it, incredible story.

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Speaker 2: One of the best stories in college basketball this season

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Speaker 2: bar none.

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Speaker 3: And if they're able to do it, Shed, they'd be

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Speaker 3: the first team in fifty years to go undefeated.

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Speaker 4: Wire to wire in the other season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, last team to do it seventy six Hoosiers, at

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Speaker 3: least according to my research. I don't you think you

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Speaker 3: can find something that proves me wrong. Now, maybe Indiana

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Speaker 3: went wired to wire all the way to the national championship, but.

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Speaker 2: There's one I do remember, Yeah, Saint Joe's in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three, twenty four. Indiana's the last team to go

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Speaker 2: our number two or our number three. Excuse me, Klay

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Speaker 4: We get spring training games this week Saturday.

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Speaker 2: That's what I thought. This is going Saturday's pitch man.

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Speaker 4: No, they don't pay me for that. They don't. They

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Speaker 3: It'd be sloppy, but it could be done.

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Speaker 2: Xavier Saturday ninety six to eighty eight winner over Marquette.

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Speaker 2: On twenty one attempts, they make eighteen free throws. Marquette

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Speaker 4: They have to score.

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Speaker 2: They're not going to win a whole lot of you know,

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Speaker 2: This would have been a tough look for Wes Miller.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's been one of those those hallmarks of

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Speaker 2: You don't want to be the team that they play

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Speaker 4: We'll have plenty to.

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Speaker 5: Thirty Alex from Stunny strikes for shut back to last

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Speaker 7: Thirty and tip the knees, puts up the shot.

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Speaker 4: Into the front course.

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Speaker 2: Baba Miller with the ultimately the difference of the go

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Speaker 2: ahead dunk inside a minute that put Cincinnati up one.

438
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Speaker 2: They tack on three more points and get out of

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Speaker 2: the thirty Arena with a sixty nine sixty five victory.

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Speaker 4: Over Utah, and.

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Speaker 2: They had a four game stretch that things would have

442
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 2: been really interesting, Sean if they had knocked off West Virginia.

443
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 2: And we're talking about a Cincinnati team that's seven and

444
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Speaker 2: six in the Big Twelve and on a four game

445
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 2: winning streak going into this critical five game season ending

446
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 2: stretch for West Miller and the Bearcats. But don't look now, Sean,

447
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: They're one away their win total in the Big Twelve

448
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 2: in their first season seven. Oh man, their win total

449
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Speaker 2: in the Big Twelve in their second season.

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Speaker 4: Seven.

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Speaker 3: No one ever said it'd be an easy existence being

452
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Speaker 3: a UC fan, But.

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Speaker 4: Man, yeah, I mean that.

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Speaker 2: Look, though, I will say this, the problem, the biggest

455
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Speaker 2: problem that I have seen in the West Miller era

456
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Speaker 2: are games like this. Yeah, as they got through the

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Speaker 2: you know, into the February portion of the schedule, you've

458
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Speaker 2: had losses to you know, a West Virginia team that

459
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Speaker 2: was that was beatable over the you know, in each

460
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Speaker 2: of the other two years, you lost to a bad

461
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State team, you lost to a bad Kansas State team.

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Speaker 2: There's you know, just along the way there have been

463
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Speaker 2: these games that if you win, you're gonna put yourself

464
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Speaker 2: in a position to be on the bubble. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: put yourself in a position to play your way into

466
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Speaker 2: the NCAA Tournament. They haven't been able to do it.

467
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 2: That's probably off the table now. I think the only

468
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Speaker 2: thing that would really get them into the NCAA Tournament

469
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Speaker 2: at this point would be to go five and zero

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Speaker 2: down the stretch, including wins at Kansas Texas Tech and

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Speaker 2: then at home against BYU, while also having to beat

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma State at home, who's on the bubble, and TCU

473
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Speaker 2: on the road, who is probably off the bubble. But

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Speaker 2: with you know, looks like they're they're gonna end up

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Speaker 2: maybe in striking distance.

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Speaker 3: And they just beat Iowa State, didn't they Yeah, Yeah,

477
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Speaker 3: And they're They're one of those teams that you can

478
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Speaker 3: never count out. I feel like, especially at home, they

479
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 3: always get like one upset every year.

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Speaker 4: I feel like.

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Speaker 2: They're outstanding at home, and every year they intend to

482
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Speaker 2: pick off one of the big dogs in the conference

483
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Speaker 2: at home. Jamie Dixon has a team that has not

484
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Speaker 2: historically over the past couple of years, been great on

485
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Speaker 2: the road, but they are a incredibly tough out at home,

486
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Speaker 2: and you're gonna get them on Senior Day potentially in

487
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: a position where like they have to win to keep

488
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Speaker 2: their NCAA tournament hopes aloft.

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Speaker 4: So the task is very tall.

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Speaker 2: This is maybe the toughest five game stretch of the

491
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Speaker 2: season for UC because there's not one of those bottom

492
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Speaker 2: third teams mixed in. So but the highlight, I did

493
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Speaker 2: want to point out something Sean here who the pass

494
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: was to Boba Miller.

495
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Speaker 4: Jalen Celestine.

496
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Speaker 2: Since he has been inserted into the starting lineup over

497
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: the past I think four or five games, things have

498
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 2: run much smoother offensively.

499
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he can shoot, he can.

500
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Speaker 2: Pass, He's doing a better job on the glass. Like

501
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Speaker 2: I don't think people realize he had back surgery in

502
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: the offseason. It took him a while. I mean you

503
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 2: would see him before games with the back wrap on,

504
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: just trying to get some blood flow to his back

505
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: so he could get on the out on the floor

506
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 2: and play. He's been playing a little bit more free,

507
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: a little bit more confident, and h he has been.

508
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 4: Kind of what the doctor ordered. I think.

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Speaker 2: When it comes to that that three spot and kind

510
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: of bridging between Danae Thomas and Gisel James, and then

511
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 2: Baba Miller and Mustapha Chom Celestine has given them another

512
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: kind of connective piece for their offense to look improved.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break. Well, I want to

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Speaker 2: get into Miami. I want to dig into this when

515
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Speaker 2: we come back, because it's it's a fascinating case study.

516
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Speaker 2: On NCAA tournament selection. Phone lines are open five one, three, seven,

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. You want to talk to some college hoops,

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Speaker 2: we will be here. No one guest today talkbacks, of course,

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Speaker 2: so get your talkbacks in. They will run in their

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00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: normal spot second segment of hour two, but phone lines

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Speaker 2: are open as well. Five on three, fifteen thirty. Let's

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Speaker 2: take a break. This is Cincinnati Sports Station, ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: This is since E three sixty.

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Speaker 1: Tony Pike, since three sixty is back now on ESPN

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Speaker 1: fifteen thirty, rolling.

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Speaker 2: Right along in hour number one since E three to sixty.

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Speaker 2: Right here on Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. Chad Brendle Sean

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Speaker 2: McMahon in for Tony and Austin today. I hope they're

529
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Speaker 2: enjoying a day off. Not moeger Mowagger's a grinder. I

530
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Speaker 2: can't believe here he's roaming the halls getting ready for

531
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Speaker 2: a show. See Sean, this is where you have to

532
00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: learn from the master. Okay, Moe knows if he works today,

533
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: that earns him a comp day later in the year.

534
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 4: What is what is it like outside today? Right now?

535
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 4: Right now?

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00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: I think it's according to my phone, it's forty eight

537
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: degrees in cloudy high fifty four today.

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Speaker 2: Is that a day that you really want to for

539
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Speaker 2: no reason take off?

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00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 4: Were given the weather recently? Me personally? Yes, I know

541
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 4: it's good money outside. Or would you add it to like.

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00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 2: A Friday off day and then and then you sandwich

543
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: it with a Monday off day and you get a

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Speaker 2: four day weekend.

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Speaker 4: Moe is the master.

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00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: He is the sense of manipulating vacation and comp days

547
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: into like four and five day weekends throughout the year.

548
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 2: Like he is a professional at it.

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Speaker 4: He's good. I'll give him that.

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00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,719
Speaker 2: So Mo works today and then earns a little bit

551
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Speaker 2: of leverage later.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes he needs it with all the travel he does,

553
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 3: you know, between between the football games and then coming

554
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 3: back to do Bengals on Sunday morning.

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00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, what you mean, like when they went to what

556
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: Utah got back six in the morning and they had

557
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 2: to be on the air at nine o'clock from the

558
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Speaker 2: Holy Grail.

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Speaker 3: They've done that multiple times, multiple times. I don't know

560
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: how Dan Horde does it.

561
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Speaker 4: He's do it for years.

562
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Speaker 2: He's got a system. It's got to be exhausting, but

563
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 2: he's got a system. He's a stud man.

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Speaker 4: He's the best in the business for a reason. Correct.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to the RedHawks here, twenty five and zero

566
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Speaker 2: six games in the regular season, remaining the nation's longest

567
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: active wind streak at twenty five. I think based on

568
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: last year, I think everybody kind of thought they went

569
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: twenty five and nine last year. One of the better

570
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: teams in the Mid American Conference. They went fourteen and

571
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: four in the league. They made it, I believe, to

572
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: the conference semi finals where they lost to Akron by two.

573
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: They were right there in terms of getting an NCAA

574
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: Tournament birth. Winning an NCAA tournament birth last year. The

575
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 2: biggest problem with Miami in terms of what happens, and

576
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: like I said in the opening segment, I think if

577
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 2: Miami gets to this, gets through the regular season undefeated,

578
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 2: you have to put them in the NCAA Tournament, regardless

579
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Speaker 2: of what happens in the MAC Conference tournament. It doesn't happen.

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00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: Teams just don't go through an entire season undefeated. At

581
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Speaker 2: that point, Sean, I don't care what the metrics look like.

582
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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what the metrics look like. If you

583
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Speaker 2: win all thirty one games, if you go on a

584
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: thirty one game winning streak, yep, you have played your

585
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: way into the NCAA Tournament.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean it's not like this is the

587
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: four team college football player where it was, you know,

588
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 3: you had undefeated UCF and people are like, oh, they

589
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 3: should be in because they're undefeated, and it's like, yeah,

590
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 3: but their metrics don't hold up. No, this is this

591
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 3: is a sixty four team tournament. I mean, how can

592
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 3: you not put a team that's won thirty one in

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Speaker 3: a row in the tournament?

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Speaker 10: Right?

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Speaker 4: That's a crime against basketball, That's what that is. I agree.

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00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 2: Now, if they lose a regular season game, then I

597
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 2: think it becomes a lot more relevant to talk about

598
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 2: the metrics, to talk about the fact that they did

599
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: not play a quad one game, to talk about the

600
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 2: fact that that they only played one quad two game,

601
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 2: to talk about the fact that Sean, if you go

602
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 2: by Ken Palm, the only non conference team inside the

603
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 2: top two hundred that they played was Wright State at one.

604
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Speaker 2: Nobody else in their non conference was in the top

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Speaker 2: two hundred. And they've played three D two teams in

606
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 2: the regular season. Yeah, they played Trinity Christian, Indiana East,

607
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: and Milligan. I get it from Miami standpoint. To an extent,

608
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 2: I do think and I know Travis has said that

609
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 2: they have tried to schedule Power five games. Power five

610
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: teams don't want to schedule them. That is true to

611
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Speaker 2: an extent. How can you verify that is true to

612
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 2: an extent? Sean, Go look at teams like the two

613
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Speaker 2: media darlings this year in the mid majors, Saint Louis

614
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 2: Utah State. Neither of them, Well, excuse me, Saint Louis

615
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: played Stanford. That was the only Power four team that

616
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: Saint Louis played in the non conference. Utah State didn't

617
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 2: play one. When it is projected that you're going to

618
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 2: be really good, those teams don't want to buy you.

619
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 2: They don't want to bring you into their court and

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00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: play a by game against a team that if they're

621
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: not at their absolute best, is going to beat you,

622
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 2: so they don't want to give you those opportunities. I

623
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: have heard there are some power for teams that tried

624
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 2: to schedule Miami and for whatever reason, those games didn't happen.

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00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: But you can't tell me when you pull up Ken

626
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Speaker 2: Pom and you start looking at all the other mid

627
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: major programs out there, that they wouldn't want to get

628
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: together with a Miami and help each other out. There

629
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Speaker 2: are teams out there inside the top two hundred other

630
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 2: than Wright State, that would have scheduled a game with Miami.

631
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Speaker 2: You don't have to schedule three Division two games. But

632
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 2: on the flip side, I will give the argument and

633
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 2: the counter argument for Miami. Nobody in the MAC believes

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00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 2: going into the season that an at large berth is

635
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 2: on the table. When's the last time the MAC got

636
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: two teams like got an at large team in the

637
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: NCAA Tournament. It's been a long time, so that's not

638
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 2: the mindset. The mindset is much like NKU. We need

639
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: to be right in March for the conference tournament to

640
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: win the conference tournament and get a chance to play

641
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: in the NCAA Tournament. They don't think like non conference scheduling.

642
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: They don't think about non conference scheduling like a team

643
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Speaker 2: that expects to be an at large or a team

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Speaker 2: that thinks in their mind they're playing for an at

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00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 2: large bid. They're thinking all the rest of this is

646
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 2: a tune up, and so I get it from both sides.

647
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 2: But if you're thirty and one and then you don't

648
00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 2: win your conference tournament the NCAA, I think it's the

649
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 2: committee's job to look at the metrics at that point,

650
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 2: and there are some metrics that favor Miami, but they're

651
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 2: not schedule based. They've got one of the worst schedules

652
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Speaker 2: in the country, and their non conference schedules even worse

653
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Speaker 2: than that. I think their overall strength to schedule is

654
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Speaker 2: three point fifty. Their non conference is like three sixty three.

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Speaker 2: It's essentially last in the country. And does that stink.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But.

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Speaker 2: If you're gonna have a committee and you're gonna give

658
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Speaker 2: it the ability to judge resumes and compare side by side,

659
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Speaker 2: there's not gonna be a comparison. If Miami has a

660
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Speaker 2: loss in the regular season, it's unfortunate, but that's the

661
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Speaker 2: nature of the beast. So Sean, they've got a lot

662
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Speaker 2: of pressure they do on their shoulders over these next

663
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Speaker 2: six if they can get to the finish line undefeated

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Speaker 2: in the regular season, I don't know how you keep

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Speaker 2: them out.

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Speaker 3: I agree. I agree. It's it's a tough spot to

667
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Speaker 3: be in for him. But I think if you're around

668
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Speaker 3: this area, even if you're a UC Xavier fan whatever, God, admit,

669
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Speaker 3: it'd be fun to watch him go thirty one to know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't have to go that far.

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Speaker 3: Don't have to I will know. Hey, I'll stay humble.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's been a while since since we up

673
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Speaker 3: at UC have made a tournament. Yeah, my freshman year.

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Speaker 4: It's been it's been a minute.

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy for Travis. Yes, I like Travis a lot.

677
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Speaker 2: I've known Travis, like I said, for close to twenty years.

678
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Speaker 2: It's really cool, especially see a guy get jettisoned at

679
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Speaker 2: Xavier the way he did, basically pushed out because Sean

680
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Speaker 2: Miller said, hey, I'll come back, when all indications were

681
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Speaker 2: they were not going to move on from Travis Steel

682
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Speaker 2: that offseason until Sean Miller kind of stabbed him in

683
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Speaker 2: the back.

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Speaker 4: Seems to be a trend. Yeah, that's what that guy's

685
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Speaker 4: good for.

686
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you go to Miami, you recoup, you reset,

687
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Speaker 2: and now you've got a team that everybody in the

688
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 2: country wants to talk about.

689
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Speaker 4: It is a really cool story, it is.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's take another break, final segment of our

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Speaker 2: number one coming up. This is SINC Three sixty right

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Speaker 2: are on Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty W one.

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Speaker 1: SINC Three sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's keep it moving right along.

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Speaker 2: Get out to the phones, Dick and Dayton, Tack, how

696
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Speaker 2: you doing?

697
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Speaker 10: Are you doing there?

698
00:41:59,640 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 12: Ched?

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Speaker 8: How are you doing there?

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Speaker 11: Sean?

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Speaker 4: I'm nice, I'm nice and talking to.

702
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Speaker 8: Those Miami Hawks. Buddy, yep, how about.

703
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 4: That twenty five? And oh, Dick, who would have thought?

704
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Speaker 5: Who would think that?

705
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Speaker 8: Who would think that? You know, it's interesting because I

706
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 8: go to college here at Saint Clair and my teacher,

707
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 8: she graduated from Barn History and cafe was my I

708
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 8: want that. She had a lot of Oh, she was

709
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 8: just telling me. It's it's unbelievable, isn't it. It's great.

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Speaker 8: It's just great.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's fantastic for college basketball to see a

712
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Speaker 2: team doing what Miami is doing.

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Speaker 8: Yes, it is, Yes it is. And I was just

714
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Speaker 8: thinking too here. Pretty soon the Reds go down, don't

715
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Speaker 8: they for the spring training?

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Speaker 2: The first they're down there, the first game is a

717
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Speaker 2: first spring training game is.

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Speaker 4: Saturday, three five first Saturday Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday.

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Speaker 8: What do you think they're gonna do this year? Guys?

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Speaker 2: I like the addition of Suarez. I think it definitely

722
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Speaker 2: answers a lot of the questions that we've had in

723
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Speaker 2: the off season. We're gonna get to this a lot

724
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Speaker 2: in our our three dick, but we'll we'll see. I mean,

725
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Speaker 2: I think there are still some holes offensively, but you

726
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 2: get a guy that can potentially have forty home runs

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Speaker 2: and PLoP him in the middle of the lineup.

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Speaker 4: That should result in a few more wins.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, i'd say so too. But you guys have a

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Speaker 8: breasted Presidents Day.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 8: Bye bye.

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Speaker 2: There he is there he is speaking of legends.

734
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Speaker 4: Mike in l a Mike, how the heck are you?

735
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 11: Well?

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Speaker 13: I'm always better when I hear your voice.

737
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Speaker 4: Chant thank you, my friend.

738
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Speaker 13: That's that comes from the heart. That's not a hyperbolic statement.

739
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Speaker 4: I appreciate it.

740
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Speaker 13: Yeah, I sometimes wish you could pull Wally Pip on

741
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Speaker 13: certain people, and.

742
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 2: I'm busy, Mike, Like you see, the UC beat takes

743
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: a lot out of me, my friend.

744
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Speaker 13: I'm sure it does. Yeah, who wants you to do

745
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 13: this when you could do what you're doing? Seriously, you're

746
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 13: the man there. You're the man, so you don't have

747
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Speaker 13: to answer.

748
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 4: It anybody exactly. I'm my own boss. That said. It's fun.

749
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Speaker 11: I like that.

750
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Speaker 13: I bet my dad always wanted his own business, and

751
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 13: he left General Elector to buy a hardware storing. Three

752
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 13: years later, he went back to General Electric because he

753
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 13: wasn't bargain.

754
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Speaker 4: For all the work and take it's a lot.

755
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 13: It is a lot. I got two things, okay for

756
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Speaker 13: you if you don't well. First of all, how was

757
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 13: the girl for you?

758
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 7: All right?

759
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:33,959
Speaker 4: She's doing good.

760
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: We had a volleyball tournament down in Bowling Green, Kentucky

761
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Speaker 2: this weekend.

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Speaker 14: Uh.

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Speaker 2: They had an awesome day Saturday, a little bumping the

764
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Speaker 2: road on Sunday, but we played.

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Speaker 4: Uh, how about this, Mike.

766
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Speaker 2: We traveled three hours to Bowling Green and on Sunday

767
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Speaker 2: morning we played a team from our club that we

768
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: practice against every Thursday.

769
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Speaker 4: Wow, that's graz And they kicked our butt. But you know,

770
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Speaker 4: it is what it is.

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Speaker 13: That's crazy. Well, you know I got to go to

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Speaker 13: the super Bowl with about I heard that.

773
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Speaker 9: Oh that was a blast.

774
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 13: And then on the way back with everybody, even the

775
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 13: driver got tired. So we guess what. I got a

776
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 13: real treat. We got spent the night in Santa Barbara,

777
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 13: which was so cool. I haven't been to Santa Barbara

778
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 13: in ten years.

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Speaker 4: Awesome.

780
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Speaker 13: What a beautiful little town. It's a beautiful mood.

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Speaker 4: You've been there, right, Yeah? Did you get any good food?

782
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Speaker 13: Oh god, I got the best abaloney I've had in

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Speaker 13: my life.

784
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Speaker 2: That's a long life. That's a lot of abalony.

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00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 13: Well, I haven't only had abaloney maybe ten or twelve

786
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 13: times in my life. But the way this guy, he

787
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 13: beat the hell out of it and tenderized it. Real

788
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 13: good man. And he had a beautiful sauce on their chad.

789
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 13: It was a coffee roasted Oh plus I had coffee

790
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 13: roasted rack of lamb got Oh my god, it was

791
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 13: too much. Everybody's bored now, Okay, I'm interested in some

792
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 13: of this stuff that goes on about spending money in baseball,

793
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 13: specifically the amount of money that goes back into the

794
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 13: team versus the profits that are taken. So I've done

795
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 13: some research. The Reds typically spend about forty two percent

796
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 13: back into players and glean the rest for whatever. The

797
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 13: Yankees and the Dodgers had the most income last year,

798
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 13: about eight hundred million, both of them pretty equal total revenue.

799
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Speaker 13: The difference between the two is why the Yankees don't

800
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 13: win World Series anymore. They only put about forty or

801
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 13: forty five percent back into the players. The Dodgers put

802
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 13: eighty percent back in. They take all that money from

803
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 13: the TV and from the suites and this and that,

804
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 13: and they don't take hardly any of it. They dump

805
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 13: it back into the players. And that's how they're able

806
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 13: to do what they do.

807
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 14: Well.

808
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 4: They have an owner.

809
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 2: That's not they're using it to make money. It's not

810
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 2: a exactly, it's not a you know, an investment that

811
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 2: owning the Dodgers is not an investment.

812
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 4: And he owns the Dodgers because he wants to win

813
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 4: the World Series.

814
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's right, they want to win. That's the whole deal.

815
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Speaker 13: And what happens is when you win, you build a foundation,

816
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 13: you build a brand, and that brand increases your valuation, right,

817
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 13: the Dodgers valuation went up twenty five percent just in

818
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 13: one year last year twenty five percent. But that's what

819
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 13: happens when you think more in terms of building a foundation,

820
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 13: building a brand than just taking profits.

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Speaker 2: Well, enjoy a while it lasts, Mike, because I have

822
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 2: a feeling whatever happens this offseason is going to change

823
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 2: all of that drastically.

824
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 13: Yeah. I bet it won't, but we'll see. We'll see,

825
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 13: but they'll still figure. Well, they've already built the brand,

826
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 13: so I'm not really ce.

827
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 4: We're fine now, they're good now.

828
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 13: The farm well, the farm systems always rough Rock. They

829
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 13: got a short stuff coming up this year. It's good

830
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 13: that short stuff for the Pirates. That Griffin kid, he

831
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 13: is gonna be unreal, Dude. I've seen some clips of this,

832
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 13: this Griffin kid Chid. He is incredible for the Pirates.

833
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 13: Forget his first name, Nda or.

834
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 4: Ronde or something like that. Yeah. Yeah, they're doing a

835
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 4: good job developing.

836
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 2: But Mike, the question is do they actually try to

837
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 2: retain and try to build something long term or do

838
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: they just take all these kids that come up that

839
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 2: are really good, flip them for prospects and continuously live

840
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: in this like three year window of oh, man, look

841
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 2: at what we got, Look at what we got.

842
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 4: Just kidding, Oh, look at what we got. Look at

843
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 4: what we got? Just kidding.

844
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Speaker 13: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Well this year is a little different

845
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 13: for the Pirates because they did go out and get

846
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 13: some quality guys and spend some money. They got they

847
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 13: just got Marcelo Suna not too long ago from the embrace.

848
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 13: They picked up four check them out. They picked up

849
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 13: four or five guys. They spent some series though, and

850
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 13: they got a good starting staff. It's not quite as

851
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 13: good as the Reds, but it's very very close.

852
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 4: Well, they got the best guy schemes.

853
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 13: Yeah, get the one bed and Keller or Heller. Keller

854
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 13: is a good pitcher, and they get they got two

855
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 13: or three other guys that are they're gonna give. They're

856
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 13: gonna surprise some people. I really feel that way. You

857
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 13: know who I like, mostly Chad If you'll give me

858
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 13: in the NCAA basketball.

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00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 4: I got real quick, Mike.

860
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Speaker 13: I like the Gators. I like the ex Florida Gators.

861
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 13: Number one in offensive reboundy, number two in defensive rebounding.

862
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 13: Good solid backcourt, not good three point shooters, but unbelievable.

863
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 11: On the boards.

864
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 13: Unbelievable d and unbelievable shooting those foul line type shots.

865
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you can win it if you

866
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 2: can't shoot the three. It's why I you know, I

867
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: like Arizona a ton they can shoot the three, but

868
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 2: they don't. They're thirty six from three and they just

869
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 2: don't shoot them.

870
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Speaker 4: You gotta be able to shoot the three in today's game.

871
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Speaker 13: And I like that Coach Golden is a good coach

872
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 13: down there. I do he is a good coach.

873
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Speaker 4: Yep, okay, Pal, take care of appreciate them, Mike, talk

874
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 4: to you soon, Yes, sir.

875
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break. I'm I'm sewn's gonna

876
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 2: kill me. I've just been late, perpetually late, So let's.

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Speaker 4: Take a break.

878
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 2: I'll try to get us back on track. In the

879
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Speaker 2: next segment, we'll hear from Richard Battino, we'll hear from

880
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: Wes Miller, and don't forget talkbacks. Segment two an hour two.

881
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Speaker 2: This is Cincy three sixty Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

882
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Speaker 1: Is Tony Pike since e three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati.

883
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Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

884
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Speaker 2: There we go hour number two since three sixty Cincinnati's

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty. If you're gonna get your talkbacks in,

886
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: they're coming up in the next segment. Let me know

887
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 2: what you think about the Reds are are you? Are

888
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: you confident now in the offense with the addition re

889
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 2: edition of au Haniosuarez. That's the big Reds topic that

890
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: we're going to discuss in our number three.

891
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 4: Did they do enough?

892
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 2: Is counting on Matt McLean returning to form, Spencer Steer,

893
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: staying healthy and continuing to prove improve, Elie de la

894
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 2: Cruz reintroducing the leg kick, adding in South Stewart, another

895
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: year of development for Noel vi Marte.

896
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 4: Is it enough?

897
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 2: Does Gino change your perspective that much on the Reds offense?

898
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,240
Speaker 4: So get your talkbaccent on that. Miami.

899
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 2: Should they be in the tournament if they don't win out?

900
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 2: If they do win out, do you overlook the metrics

901
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 2: and say, hey, thirty one and oh is thirty one

902
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 2: and oh, whether they win the MAC Tournament or not,

903
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 2: they've earned their spot. Let's get back to Cincinnati and Xavier.

904
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 2: We'll start with Xavier. As we mentioned in the opening

905
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 2: ninety six eighty eight win over Marquette. They shoot it

906
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 2: well from the perimeter, they take care of the basketball,

907
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: they do just enough defensively, and they get their fifth

908
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 2: Big East win. Let's hear from a Richard Patino.

909
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 15: Coach, You've got to be proud of your club for

910
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 15: a couple of reasons. In my mind, certainly the way

911
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 15: they started the ballgame, but maybe more importantly how they

912
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 15: finished out the last three minutes of this ball game.

913
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, I mean, certainly we gave them some

914
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 16: confidence because defense we weren't very good, but offensively we

915
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 16: were phenomenal. Shared the basketball twenty four assists, made sixteen threes,

916
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 16: eighteen free throws, which is great to get to the

917
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 16: pre throw line. We out rebounded them too, which I'm

918
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 16: really really proud of.

919
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 4: Didn't turn the ball over.

920
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 16: The two things we did in their building was didn't

921
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 16: rebound to turn the ball over. So our on ball

922
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 16: defense state it really hurt us. I mean, Nigel James

923
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 16: is terrific, far Ham's really good. But we'll learn from

924
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 16: it and happy to get to win.

925
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 17: Coach, your first half of basketball perhaps maybe the best

926
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Speaker 17: half of ball in my opinion, maybe all year fifty

927
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Speaker 17: one points. You made eleven threes, you only turned the

928
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 17: ball over two times. You held him to thirty five

929
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 17: first half points. What was your message to the team

930
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Speaker 17: at halftime.

931
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Speaker 16: To win with defensive rebounding. They listened to one of

932
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Speaker 16: the two things.

933
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Speaker 4: We rebounded the ball, but we didn't defend.

934
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Speaker 16: But you know, I mean offensively, you know, we're really

935
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 16: fun to watch offensively, the way that we share the basketball.

936
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Speaker 13: Did a lot of good things.

937
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 16: But we just got to individually do a better job

938
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Speaker 16: of guarding our own.

939
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 10: Man.

940
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 4: We got to have more pride there, all right, had

941
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 4: a terrific game.

942
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 15: He was six of eight from the field, three or

943
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 15: five from three point range, four or five from the

944
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 15: free throw line, finished with nineteen points. And that's the

945
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 15: third game in a row now. He's been pretty good

946
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 15: on offense for you. Today he was wonderful on offense

947
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 15: for the Musketeers. And that's nice to see as you

948
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 15: as you kind of go down the stretch here and

949
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 15: Bigie's play.

950
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 16: Yeah, phenomenal in the first half. Really really just took

951
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 16: good shots, finished up the rim, which is great to see,

952
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 16: and then made some key free throws down the stretch.

953
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 16: So only a sophomore really really excited about him.

954
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 4: He's a great kid.

955
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 11: He works hard.

956
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 17: Coach Yobam Malisseovich finishes with a season high twenty three

957
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 17: points five rebounds. In coach, he only had one fact,

958
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 17: what's going on with that?

959
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,439
Speaker 16: Well, a lot of it is, you know, they don't

960
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 16: really post up, so a little bit. It was the game,

961
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 16: you know, where they've got a little bit different look.

962
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 16: You know, Parham, we didn't have him on him the

963
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 16: whole time. Then we started switching it, and so I

964
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 16: almost wish we fouled a little bit more, to be

965
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 16: honest with you, because we were just giving him point

966
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 16: blank layups. But he was terrific offensive did a great job.

967
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 15: Treg Carroll at eighteen points and seven rebounds. But I

968
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 15: thought perhaps maybe the play of the game, Trey Carroll

969
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 15: turned the ball over near the top of the key

970
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 15: and it looked like Marquette that they were all on

971
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 15: their way to an easy layup, and he came like

972
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 15: a bolt of lightning back to help defend and block

973
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 15: that shot at a critical point in the ball game.

974
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 15: And that's something you know that maybe inspiring it with

975
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 15: the teammates, but you've got to admire that in a

976
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 15: player where you commit a tough turnover like that, in

977
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 15: your instant reactions to go back and make the block,

978
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 15: that was a huge play.

979
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 16: Yeah, it was a winning play. You know, he made

980
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,280
Speaker 16: a bad offensive play, didn't give up on it. Huge

981
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 16: block shot, kept the ball alive and we were able

982
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 16: to get out.

983
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 4: On the break, coach.

984
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 17: And then the two things that when I'm looking at

985
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 17: stat sheet where you had the advantage, I think points

986
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 17: off turnovers you have an eighteen to eleven advantage and

987
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 17: then fast break points twenty one to eleven advantage for you,

988
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 17: we know that Marquette that's where they shine, and you

989
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 17: guys did a better job in those two areas. You

990
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 17: talked about it before the game. How proud of of

991
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 17: your team to be able to be better in those

992
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 17: two areas, especially when that's a strength of Marquette.

993
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean we didn't do it.

994
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 16: You know, I'm disappointed we left him out fifty six

995
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 16: points in the paint.

996
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 13: But you know, when you make sixteen.

997
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 16: Threes, you make eighteen pre throws and that's a lot

998
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 16: of points right there, and you share the basketball and

999
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 16: don't turn it over.

1000
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 4: So you know, we know we got to be better.

1001
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 16: On the defensive side of it, but offense, we really

1002
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 16: really proud of the guys.

1003
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 4: Coach.

1004
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 15: Is one last question here. Philip borovichan and hit another

1005
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 15: double double. That's nine in the season. He started the

1006
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 15: Big East in that category. He almost hit a triple

1007
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 15: double with seven assists, fifteen points and eleven rebounds into

1008
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 15: Just another solid performance from that young man.

1009
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 16: He's great, but I'm going to kick him off the

1010
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 16: team if he uses my last time out one more

1011
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 16: time this season. I beg him to stop doing it.

1012
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 16: So if he does it Tuesday, he's going to be

1013
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 16: off the team.

1014
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 15: All right, you can talk to him about it.

1015
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 9: Coach.

1016
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 15: I appreciate you Simond some spending some time with his

1017
00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 15: congratulations on the win.

1018
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 4: Thank you. They go, Richard Patino.

1019
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 2: Something crazy about this game that I don't I'm sure

1020
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 2: it's happened to bunce Sean, but I've never noticed it

1021
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 2: until today. Every starter for Xavier made at least two

1022
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 2: threes and at least two free throws.

1023
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 3: That's ridiculous, that's amazing. That's getting the ball around.

1024
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 2: Borvicken in three threes, Malisovich five threes, Trey Carroll two threes,

1025
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 2: all right, three and Messina Moore two and then four

1026
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 2: to three free throws for Bora Vickenen, Melissavitch with two,

1027
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: Trey Carroll with four, all Right with four, and Messina

1028
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 2: Moore with three. And to add to that, the first

1029
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 2: four of them all made at least two two's.

1030
00:57:59,000 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 4: That's just being efficient.

1031
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 2: The Scena Moore is the only one of that group

1032
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 2: that didn't have a two. He had two threes and

1033
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 2: went oh for two from two. That's a crazy number.

1034
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 2: I don't know that I've ever seen that before. No,

1035
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:14,479
Speaker 2: that's rare.

1036
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,919
Speaker 3: It's not uncommon to maybe have a few guys who

1037
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 3: do that every now and then, but then to have

1038
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 3: you know, five.

1039
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,919
Speaker 2: Five guys make more than two threes and more than

1040
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 2: two free throws. Yeah, I mean, did you see the

1041
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 2: dayde Thomas stat before yesterday which one through thirteen Big

1042
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 2: Big twelve games, he had shot thirteen free throws.

1043
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 3: Yes, which is wild. Given how he usually tends to

1044
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 3: attack the basket, you think he would draw more contact.

1045
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 2: The problem is he plays away from contact even when

1046
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 2: he gets downhill. More often than that, you have to

1047
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 2: play through the contact right to the free throw line.

1048
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 2: Right now, he maybe has gotten the toughest whistle of

1049
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 2: anyone I ever recall in terms of fouls not being called,

1050
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 2: like he takes a lot of bumps and they just

1051
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 2: don't call them out. Toughest whistle I think I can

1052
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 2: ever remember those is Jared Cumberland, because they were just

1053
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 2: because he was bigger and stronger, they'd just call him

1054
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 2: for a charge.

1055
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 4: Just assume.

1056
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 2: Could you imagine Jared Cumberland in today's game where the

1057
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 2: charge has essentially gone away. Oh wouldn't be pretty. I mean,

1058
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 2: he might average twenty three, twenty four points a night

1059
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 2: because he just knows they're not physically capable of stopping

1060
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 2: him once he gets, you know, shoulders square and headed

1061
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 2: to the rim.

1062
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 3: He bullied people, man, he really bullied people. It was

1063
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 3: fun to watch. But back to Xavier. I know you

1064
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:46,479
Speaker 3: guys know how much this pains me. But they played well.

1065
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 2: You got a guy with eleven rebounds, you get a

1066
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 2: guy in Messina Moore with eleven assists, and I don't

1067
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I like Xavier less, but I really dislike

1068
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 2: Shakas Mark. So to see things kind of crumbling at Marquette,

1069
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: it's fine with me.

1070
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 4: Huh. That the old Big East rivalry that's got you

1071
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 4: fired up. Yeah, that's something like that. Real quick.

1072
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 2: Before we go, let's hear from Wes Miller after Cincinnati

1073
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 2: sixty nine sixty five win over Utah.

1074
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 7: Got check win for the Bearcats today as they beat

1075
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 7: Utah sixty nine to sixty five. We are joined by

1076
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 7: Victoria's head coach Wes Miller. You were down by five

1077
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 7: with less than ninety seconds to go, coach, you scored

1078
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 7: the last nine points of the game.

1079
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 4: How did you do it on both ends?

1080
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 14: Well, that's that's that's the thing that we've missed and

1081
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 14: finishes like that.

1082
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 15: I am.

1083
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:44,919
Speaker 14: If you want to talk about the game, I don't

1084
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 14: have a girl lot of great stuff to say, but

1085
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 14: the finish, that's the thing that we've missed in a

1086
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 14: lot of these moments, and we found a way tonight.

1087
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 14: And I am extremely proud of that. That that is Yes,

1088
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 14: that is something, and these kids are something for that

1089
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 14: because I did not think we played well. You know,

1090
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 14: Gisel had one hundred and two temperature yesterday and didn't practice.

1091
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 14: He had white spots all over his throat, and I mean,

1092
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 14: he's such a tough kid. He came out here to

1093
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Speaker 14: go through our walkthrough, which we do the day before

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Speaker 14: the game. Before practice, film session walked through and then

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01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 14: Bob comes to me right when we're about to start

1096
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 14: stretching our trainer and says, Gisel's got one hundred and

1097
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 14: two temperature. He wants to go. I'm like, is that

1098
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 14: even saved or healthy? And he goes not really. I said,

1099
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 14: then let's go get his button. And they went back

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01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 14: and looked at his throat and he had white spots,

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01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 14: and you know, he didn't. Then he was done the

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01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 14: rest of the day in the hotel, sleeping all day,

1103
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 14: and he was not very good tonight. But what a

1104
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 14: gutsy kid. How many kids in college basketball play when

1105
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,919
Speaker 14: that's going on? What like, what a gutsy kid?

1106
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 10: Man?

1107
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 14: And he's stunk. I mean, seriously, he's stunk. But it

1108
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 14: doesn't matter, like he just gave it to us when

1109
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 14: he's got a fever. He's sick as a dog.

1110
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 4: His body language was good too. I mean, even though

1111
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 4: he's sick, he's smiling. He was upbeat.

1112
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,919
Speaker 7: I mean, it was clear he wasn't feeling well enough

1113
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 7: to play at the top of his game, but he

1114
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 7: didn't let it show.

1115
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 14: I saw. I mean, no, he's a terrific kid. But

1116
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 14: like some of the plays that he didn't make. Some

1117
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 14: of the like he misses the front end of the

1118
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 14: one and one like not even there, like when he

1119
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 14: got the wide open three when they went under. He's

1120
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 14: been shooting the eyes out of it.

1121
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 11: You know.

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01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 14: Two days ago he's in here after practice doing what

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Speaker 14: he does, full speed, full sweat. He didn't miss and

1124
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 14: he did, you know, some of the turnovers, some of

1125
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 14: the loose balls he didn't get to. He was a

1126
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 14: step step, slow step late. I'm super proud of the

1127
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 14: guy's finding a way. Like I Baba was frustrated. He

1128
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 14: knows he can't get that technical. I mean we literally

1129
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 14: had that conversation yesterday or two days ago after practice.

1130
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 14: We talked about how he's too good of a player

1131
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 14: to keep making those errors in these games. You go

1132
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 14: back to Arizona State dating. I mean, this has happened

1133
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 14: multiple times where he gets frustrated, says something and gets

1134
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,439
Speaker 14: a tech. So he was really down on himself after

1135
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 14: that and got it. I felt like it was a

1136
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 14: lit on it. I mean, we're getting the ball to like, okay,

1137
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,439
Speaker 14: we're shooting twenty three. I'd me like, yeah, I feel

1138
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 14: it too, and then we get the ball call something

1139
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 14: get it inside to three feet, get it inside to

1140
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 14: four feet. I mean, we couldn't make those simple ones,

1141
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 14: and but we found a way. And that's the part

1142
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 14: that I'm extremely proud of. Three in a row in

1143
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 14: the Big twelve. That's that's something so well. What we

1144
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 14: need this bye week will get healthy. We got to

1145
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 14: get Sean Abya back. We we gotta get we gotta

1146
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 14: get Tamax and rest right like Gissell's got to get

1147
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 14: healthy again, and every all the other craft we're dealing with.

1148
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 4: But I'm proud of this group tonight.

1149
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 18: I'm proud of the fact that with all the stuff

1150
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 18: you just said, you're still figuring out winning, breeds winning,

1151
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 18: You're figuring out ways to win basketball games. You got

1152
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 18: Mustafa Chilm a double double. To get a double double,

1153
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 18: he got his first double double since early in the

1154
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 18: non conference portion of the schedule. What has it been

1155
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 18: like trying to get him to not only defend and

1156
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 18: try to block shots what he did he has four

1157
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 18: of them today, but to rebound the basketball and have

1158
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 18: a presence on the offense.

1159
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 14: Been. Yeah, we got to get him healthy. Like yesterday

1160
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 14: and he was practicing and like every single time he

1161
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 14: plants defensively, or there's a foot around him. You where

1162
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 14: he's gonna tweak the ankle. Again, we got to I

1163
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 14: thought tonight he had some moments. He scored around the basket,

1164
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 14: he was demanding the ball. He did have rim protection.

1165
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:17,919
Speaker 14: I want to get to the point that we block

1166
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 14: it and we get the ball. Yes, you know like

1167
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 14: that Again, there were some loose balls we should have

1168
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 14: gotten on his blocks. One he blocks out of bounds.

1169
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 14: I think the best guys and he can. He's gonna

1170
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 14: get there, block it into play, start a fast break.

1171
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 14: But it was good to see him coming across the

1172
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 14: weak side when they were putting their head down.

1173
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 4: There you go.

1174
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 2: Las Miller following Sunday's sixty nine sixty five win over Utah.

1175
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 4: All right, let's take a break.

1176
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 2: Talkbacks, get your talkbacks in, gets talkbacks, gite you talkbacks

1177
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 2: coming up right after this SINC thirty sixteen Cincinnati's ESPN

1178
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty when.

1179
01:04:55,280 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 19: It covers the Bengals Like ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1180
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 4: It's that time for talkbacks.

1181
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 20: Press the microphone and record your message or austin in tone.

1182
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 14: Please keep it clean and don't be mean at.

1183
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 10: A sprinkle, sprinkle, drift drips.

1184
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 4: It's that time for talkbacks.

1185
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 20: It's our favorite part of Sincy three sixty. So Austin, buddy,

1186
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 20: play those tunkbacks on your screen and please drive nowt

1187
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 20: to sabotages.

1188
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 2: No sabotaging, Sean, Okay, I'll try. All right, let's get

1189
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 2: to it.

1190
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 21: So what are the odds that the Bengals tagging trade trade?

1191
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 9: But we do it after the NFL Draft. It just

1192
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 9: seems like they always sit on their hands.

1193
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 21: And wait the very last minute, the eleventh hour, fifty

1194
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 21: ninth minute, fifty nine.

1195
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 11: Seconds before they pull the trigger.

1196
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 21: And if anything seems like a slammed off for this organization,

1197
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 21: we seem to always get blocke. It's like a Dayda

1198
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 21: Thomas dongk. He looks good, he's in the air and

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01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 21: then blocked by the rim.

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01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 2: Ouch fair and accurate, Fair and accurate. That's something I

1201
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 2: and that's my bad. I wasn't around this weekend down

1202
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 2: in Bowling Green for a volleyball tournament for my daughter.

1203
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 2: The rumors going around right now are that the Indianapolis

1204
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 2: Colts right are interested in a UH tag and trade

1205
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 2: with Trey Hendrickson with the Bengals.

1206
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 4: I would do it.

1207
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 2: I don't see any way that Trey Hendrickson plays for

1208
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 2: the Bengals in twenty twenty six. So if you can

1209
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 2: get something for him, absolutely, Now to the point of

1210
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 2: the caller, yeah, it does seem like something they'd screw

1211
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 2: up and then they get something, but it wouldn't be

1212
01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 2: for even another year, being the twenty twenty seven draft

1213
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 2: and probably you know, a lower than expected pick to

1214
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 2: begin with. I just don't trust Duketobin until he gives

1215
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 2: me reason to trust him. I don't trust him to

1216
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 2: do to make the smart, prudent, aggressive move.

1217
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 4: We'll see.

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01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 22: Happy Monday, guys. Frederica Brignone from Italy just got her

1219
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 22: second downhill gold. Guys, if you have not read her story,

1220
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 22: please take a minute. Okay, salute to Frederica Brignone, two

1221
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 22: time gold medal winner in these Olympics.

1222
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:54,439
Speaker 2: Are you an Olympic an? Avid Olympics watcher? Sean not Avid. No,

1223
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 2: I'm much more Summer Games than winner game.

1224
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 3: I agree, and that kind of stinks because I want

1225
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 3: to appreciate the Winter Games more. I just I mean,

1226
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 3: I listen. If the US plays Canada and hockey, it's

1227
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 3: game on sure, you know, yeah, or they play Sweden

1228
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 3: or any big country that usually has a good hockey team.

1229
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 4: Those are the big events, you know.

1230
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 3: I like I appreciate watching some of the downhill stuff,

1231
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 3: the snow the half half pipe and snowboarding. Man Sean

1232
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 3: White back in what was it twenty eighteen winning gold,

1233
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 3: that insane run that he had that was a lot

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01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 3: of fun to work.

1235
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 4: Have you watched now?

1236
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 2: Like the tricks that Sean White did then are like

1237
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 2: half tricks now.

1238
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's amazing how quickly things can progress in sports.

1239
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 4: But uh, yeah, I'm just not I don't know. One

1240
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 4: I don't have. It's right in the middle of.

1241
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 2: February college basketball, yeah, and my daughter's volleyball. So I

1242
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 2: just don't have a lot of time to like sit

1243
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 2: down and really get invested. The girlfriend does watch a

1244
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 2: lot of Olympics when she gets the chance, so it's

1245
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 2: on the TV. Just don't really like have a chance

1246
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:06,560
Speaker 2: to like dial in and get invested.

1247
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 3: It's fun to watch, like the highlights that NBC runs

1248
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 3: the nights from the from the the full day.

1249
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 4: I like that. I appreciate that they do that. You

1250
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 4: sit and watch curling, don't you? Maybe?

1251
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 2: Hi man it's pretty fun. There's a lot of controversy

1252
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 2: around it, right, I've heard the double touching the stones. Yeah,

1253
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 2: don't double touch your stone.

1254
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 4: Who to thunk?

1255
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 23: Don't double touch your stone? Don't do it, Lord Heaven.

1256
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 23: I got a start, bench cut? Okay, the Super Bowl,

1257
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 23: the na Tournament, O, the Masters.

1258
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 3: Oh, come on, Chad, I don't know where to go

1259
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 3: with this. For me, the NCAA Tournament is and always

1260
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 3: will be number one.

1261
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 4: It's a turn of like.

1262
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 2: You get, you get sixty seven basketball games in two.

1263
01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 4: Weeks at worst, that's my bench at war. It's a

1264
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 4: start for me. I think i'd have to agree. I

1265
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 4: think the super Bowl is gonna be cut. I'm kind

1266
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 4: of with you on that.

1267
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 2: And you know what, it's not the You know what

1268
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 2: I was waiting for is the Stanley Cup, because I

1269
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 2: think that's better than the Super Bowl.

1270
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 4: I can't comment on the Stanley Cup. I don't really

1271
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 4: watch hockey.

1272
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 2: The tradition of it, the handshake line, the lifting of

1273
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 2: the cup. Like the teams won't even raise touch they

1274
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 2: won't they won't even look at conference championship trophies. Yeah, Like,

1275
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 2: I don't know. The super Bowl is great. I have

1276
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl party every year. I love it. It's

1277
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 2: a great opportunity to hang out with friends and enjoy

1278
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 2: some awesome food, and but.

1279
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 3: It serves more as a reminder that the Bengals aren't

1280
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:47,759
Speaker 3: there than anything.

1281
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's also just like it's the end of

1282
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 2: football season that sucks. Yeah, I'm gonna start the NCAA tournament.

1283
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bench the Masters, I'm gonna cut the Super Bowl.

1284
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 4: I think I'm right there with you. I can't. I

1285
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 4: can't disagree with that list.

1286
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 24: All right, keep it moving, Hey, Chad, it's Leroy down

1287
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 24: here in Falmouth. I didn't know you were working today.

1288
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 24: I left Tony and Austin a little talkback earlier.

1289
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 4: That's okay, But I should have known they'd be off.

1290
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 24: With such a significant holidays such as President's Day. But

1291
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 24: I wasn't paying attention. You know, I'm so poor. I

1292
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 24: can't afford to pay attention. But I did want to

1293
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 24: reach out to you. If you want to do like

1294
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 24: a day of maybe Tribe in Jurassic five as your

1295
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 24: bumper music, that'd be great. Have a good one.

1296
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:38,719
Speaker 4: That's a mean tribe called Quest and Jurassic five. Work

1297
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 4: on that. Sean I'm on it all right, Chad.

1298
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 11: I was driving through Clifton today. Is there anywhere else

1299
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 11: in the city where the roads are worse?

1300
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 4: Yes?

1301
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:52,759
Speaker 6: I mean good Lord.

1302
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 2: Also, it's on the list, Jad, It's on the list.

1303
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 2: The roads in Clifton are great. I lived there for

1304
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 2: four years. I can definitively say they stink. But have

1305
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 2: you driven up Montana Avenue recently?

1306
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 4: I have not. I have driven in Clifton A lot

1307
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 4: in the road stink. Yeah.

1308
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,639
Speaker 3: The west side, man, it's like it's Norwood to Nord's

1309
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:18,600
Speaker 3: bad too. That's a year round thing for them. You

1310
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 3: know where we have great roads, the east side, Northern Kentucky. Yeah,

1311
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 3: God's country, we have great roads. That's true. That's true,

1312
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 3: at least the main ones for sure.

1313
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 19: Y'all know what it is when y'all hear that intro

1314
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 19: music in the city. Y'at here in sunny, no cool,

1315
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 19: Cloudy's on?

1316
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 11: What up? Chad?

1317
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 4: My g man, it's good to hear you on the radio. Yo.

1318
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 19: Your past will never get revoked. It's always good in

1319
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 19: the hood when you own. We already know what type

1320
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 19: of music tastes you like, bro, same things I love, Yo.

1321
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 19: The bear Cats three in a row. That's what I'm

1322
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 19: talking about. Get three straight. Celestine is the difference maker

1323
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 19: right now. I'm liking what I'm seeing. Just figure a

1324
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 19: way to survive this gauntlet. Kansas, Texas Tech, I don't know.

1325
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 19: Just make it competitive. Let's go down swinging.

1326
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 2: I agree, because you know, to go four and one

1327
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 2: is a lot to ask, but boy, you did be.

1328
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 2: It'd be interesting if they could get one of these

1329
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 2: next two. I don't think they're gonna, but it would

1330
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 2: be interesting if they could.

1331
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 4: Wait a minute it back for a double up, no dishrespect.

1332
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 4: I gotta show love to the Miami Red Hawks.

1333
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:20,640
Speaker 14: Yo.

1334
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 19: I sit there and watch that game against Ohio. Man,

1335
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:26,679
Speaker 19: it brought flashbacks. I remember the ninety nine season, Charlie Coles,

1336
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 19: Walie Zoba.

1337
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 11: Yo.

1338
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,679
Speaker 4: They brought back great memories. You know. Even our bed

1339
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 4: catch was good that year. Believe it or not. But uh,

1340
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 4: it's good to see the Red Hawks doing the thing.

1341
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 12: Man.

1342
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:35,680
Speaker 13: Yo.

1343
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 19: If they do lose one, they still they still should

1344
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 19: be in the tournament. Real tall, Let's see what these

1345
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 19: boys can do. I'm watching you, Miami, go do your thing.

1346
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 4: I don't know if I agree, Rong, I just don't.

1347
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 4: It's tough.

1348
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 2: If they don't, if they don't get through it unscathed,

1349
01:13:53,600 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 2: it's tough. Hello, this is former president on President's Dah.

1350
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 10: You see avoided a major major disaster with that come

1351
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 10: from behind win. Oh, and I would be remiss if

1352
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 10: I didn't wish everyone out there a very merry, happy

1353
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 10: President's Day.

1354
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 4: How's that song?

1355
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 14: Go?

1356
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 2: A very marry President's Day? Like there's nothing catchy?

1357
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 4: There's a song? No, I was making money.

1358
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 2: Okay, have a happy, holly jolly President's Day, Chad.

1359
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 4: I wore my my President's Day attired today. I did.

1360
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 4: I noticed that early.

1361
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 3: I've got my my blue Olympic team sweatshirt on, I

1362
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 3: got my red ucy basketball shorts, and I got my

1363
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 3: white shoes.

1364
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 2: I thought we were gonna do random president. I have facts.

1365
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 9: I have them.

1366
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 3: We can do them after this segment. Okay, I've got

1367
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:49,679
Speaker 3: a ton of them, and they're good.

1368
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 4: The modern era of presidents. I think we're gonna skip. Yes,

1369
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 4: the last forty years, we're forgetting it.

1370
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 2: They're out. They're out. We're done with all those guys.

1371
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 2: They're out. Uh So maybe we'll get to that. Keep

1372
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 2: it moving.

1373
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 25: Hey, Jack, I'm sure you get this question. All the time,

1374
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 25: but I'm going to ask it anyway, what are the

1375
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 25: chances that the Bearcats actually keep Wes Miller because of

1376
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 25: these last few victories down the stretch here, and if

1377
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 25: they do actually move on from him? Who are the

1378
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 25: legitimate targets in your mind? I've heard Calhoun, I've heard

1379
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 25: a couple of other people, But who are legitimate targets

1380
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 25: in your mind that they would actually pursue.

1381
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 2: I think the assignment is still the assignment. Make the

1382
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:42,759
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament. I don't know year five right, like year five,

1383
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 2: make the NCAA tournament. If he can find a way

1384
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 2: to do it, I think he keeps his job. If

1385
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 2: he doesn't, I've always said, let me see what it

1386
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 2: looks like. It's a little cloudier than maybe it was

1387
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 2: a month ago because they have been able to put

1388
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 2: some wins together. They are one game under five hundred

1389
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,639
Speaker 2: and the Big twelve. They do have a massive upset

1390
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 2: over Iowa State. That's the thing, Like we're in a

1391
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 2: society where everybody wants to like tell you the end

1392
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 2: of the book, but they've only read the first like

1393
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 2: five chapters. I guess not how it's not how reading

1394
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 2: a book goes, you got to wait until you read

1395
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 2: the whole book, then you make a judgment on the book.

1396
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 2: I think it's a you know, it's a it's a

1397
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 2: massive uphill climb to get into the NCUAA tournament right now.

1398
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 2: Think of it like this, though, Sean, if they beat

1399
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 2: it just two games, if they just win Eastern Michigan

1400
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 2: and Xavier h just those two, Yeah, they're in a

1401
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 2: much different situation. You're on the bubble. People are talking

1402
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 2: about you and the nc DOUBLEA tournament. So that's kind

1403
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,640
Speaker 2: of been the drawback of the West Miller era is

1404
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 2: you know, what if, what if?

1405
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 4: What if?

1406
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 2: And I think he needs to get in In terms of,

1407
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 2: you know, pop potential replacements, I think Ared Calhoun is

1408
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 2: the most obvious in terms of he's one of the

1409
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 2: two hottest names. Calhoun and Josh Shirt from Saint Louis.

1410
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 2: Jared Calhoun, if you don't know, the head coach at

1411
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 2: Utah State graduated from UC in two thousand and four.

1412
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 2: Worked on Bob Huggins's staff as a manager student assistant.

1413
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 4: Back in those days.

1414
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 2: Them was with Hugs at West Virginia for five years

1415
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 2: director of Operations and also one year as an assistant

1416
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 2: coach coach at Youngstown State for eight years now at

1417
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 2: Utah State. Josh Shirtz, if you remember, coached Indiana State

1418
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 2: with the Indiana State team you see played in the

1419
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,759
Speaker 2: n I a couple of years ago with Larry Nerd

1420
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 2: Robbie Avla, and they both are having fantastic seasons. So

1421
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,839
Speaker 2: those are probably the two biggest names to keep.

1422
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 4: An eye on.

1423
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,720
Speaker 2: I'll have a full list win the coaching if there's

1424
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 2: a coaching search, we'll have a hot board up as

1425
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 2: soon as there is a coaching change.

1426
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 4: Here's my question for you, Chad.

1427
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 3: I know it's college football, but with what Kurt Signette's doing,

1428
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 3: you got to think that the people that you see

1429
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 3: are thinking, all right, year five of Wes Miller should

1430
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 3: have made the tournament by now.

1431
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, if not this year when when?

1432
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and what Kurt Signetti's doing kind of

1433
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 3: only exacerbates the problem for Wes Miller.

1434
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 2: I don't think Kurt Signetti has anything. I mean, I

1435
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 2: know from a fans perspective, it does. John Cunningham's not

1436
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 2: looking at it and thinking, you don't think so, No, No,

1437
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti is a complete one of one.

1438
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 4: Like that's true. That's true.

1439
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 2: A guy in almost in his sixties that's never really

1440
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 2: been a head coach at the high major level, all

1441
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 2: of a sudden comes into the worst program in the

1442
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 2: history of major conference football and turns it into a

1443
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 2: national championship in two years. If you're chasing that, you're

1444
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 2: never going to get there, right, And my question, I

1445
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,759
Speaker 2: mean not so much, John Cunningham. What about like the donors,

1446
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 2: the people who want to expect results because they're giving

1447
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 2: so much money. Yeah, I mean I know a lot

1448
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 2: of the donors are they like Wes? Like most people,

1449
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 2: they like Wes. They want Wes to succeed, and you should.

1450
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 2: They believe in him. But the question being, I mean

1451
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 2: five years, five years is enough?

1452
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 4: Rope?

1453
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 2: I love Wes, Yes, Like I've gotten to know Wes

1454
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,560
Speaker 2: really well over the years. We've had a great working relationship.

1455
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 2: He's been awesome to my family. But it's a results

1456
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 2: business and the results are not yet there. And five years.

1457
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 2: If you can't get it done in five how you know,

1458
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 2: do you really want to be in a situation like

1459
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 2: Pitt with Jeff Caple, who they can't really fire because

1460
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 2: they don't have enough money. And he's been to like

1461
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 2: one NC DOUBLEA tournament in eight nine years, same with

1462
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 2: like a Johnny Dawkins at UCF, same situation like it's

1463
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 2: I just don't think you can give it another year

1464
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 2: if this year doesn't have NC DOUBLEA tournament attached to

1465
01:19:59,200 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 2: the end of it.

1466
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, kid to hear you today, Chad, Yeah, I'll talk back.

1467
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 4: That was a rough performance. They were not good the

1468
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 4: other day for yesterday. Yeah. I agree with Mike.

1469
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:18,959
Speaker 26: The Pirates have a nice ross, your nice pitching staff,

1470
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,680
Speaker 26: and like you said, we'll see how committed they are

1471
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 26: to it. I think they should be. If you're not

1472
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 26: going to try.

1473
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 4: To win, why have a team to make money.

1474
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,560
Speaker 26: It's hard being a Reds fan, harder to be a Pirate.

1475
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 4: I agree. I agree.

1476
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 2: That's why I don't have a lot of faith in

1477
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 2: Like I agree, the Pittsburgh roster has improved. A gun

1478
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 2: to my head, and I don't know why anybody would

1479
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 2: put a gun to my head over this, but I

1480
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:47,839
Speaker 2: think Pittsburgh's just as good, if not better, roster construction

1481
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 2: wise than Cincinnati is coming into this season. But they

1482
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 2: give you no reason to have faith confidence in them.

1483
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 14: Is there any chance Swest Miller comes back out and

1484
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:02,679
Speaker 14: see how you seek him ram.

1485
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:04,799
Speaker 4: Back they make the tournament.

1486
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 2: It gets interesting if you play yourself all the way

1487
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 2: back onto the bubble and like the NCAA Listsue is

1488
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 2: one of the first four out, because then Wes is

1489
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:21,600
Speaker 2: going to have at his behest played without Jisel the

1490
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 2: first third of the season didn't have Jalen Haynes the

1491
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 2: entire way. I still think it's you have to get in.

1492
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 2: But the thing about Wes is you want to talk

1493
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 2: about bottoming out. He hasn't bottom out, and you want

1494
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,600
Speaker 2: to know what bottom bottom out looks like. Look at

1495
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 2: Manhattan Kansas. They were one and eleven in the Big Twelve.

1496
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 2: They got their doors blown off by a very average

1497
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 2: Cincinnati team at home, and a week later Jerome tangs out.

1498
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 2: That's bottoming out, you see, is not bottomed out. His

1499
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 2: teams play hard, they continue to fight. They might not

1500
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 2: be good enough to get exactly to where the fan

1501
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 2: base wants them to be, but they have not been

1502
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 2: a disgrace to the university. I guess as Kansas State

1503
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 2: used to fire Jerome Tank.

1504
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, the Winter Olympics be a lot more interesting if

1505
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 6: US wasn't getting.

1506
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:18,719
Speaker 4: Their butt whooped by Norway.

1507
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 9: I think we're now like eight gold eight medalska.

1508
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,719
Speaker 4: I mean it's not a it's not a winter country.

1509
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:28,719
Speaker 4: I don't think.

1510
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 2: There's there's spots of the country that are you know,

1511
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 2: winter specific. But notice the population patterns migrate south and

1512
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:43,719
Speaker 2: east and west Sean. That not a lot of people

1513
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 2: looking to stay in uh Bizmarck whatever Dakota.

1514
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 4: That's in North Dakota, North Dakota. Yeah.

1515
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 3: If you ever looked at like a population map where

1516
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 3: the big populations are, they're all on the coasts and

1517
01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:59,520
Speaker 3: there's like Chicago, there's like nobody in the middle Chicago.

1518
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:01,719
Speaker 4: That's it. Yeah, pretty much.

1519
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 10: Double dipper gip er here and wail that brig Nony

1520
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:12,480
Speaker 10: Downhill skier that that was being referenced earlier in talkbacks.

1521
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 10: What an amazing story she has. They interviewed her after

1522
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 10: one of the gold medal runs and she said that

1523
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 10: she would have rather have not had the injury than

1524
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 10: to have the gold medal. That's how painful it was

1525
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 10: and how hard that road back to the Olympics was.

1526
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 2: Then why come back or shouldn't the gold medal be

1527
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:38,879
Speaker 2: the the crown jewel. I'd rather not have the injury

1528
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 2: than to have had the gold medal, then you could

1529
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 2: have just quit the sport after the injury and not

1530
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 2: pushed yourself to come back. Am I am I crazy?

1531
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:48,719
Speaker 11: Or Sean?

1532
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:51,679
Speaker 4: I don't know, don't I don't know her deep motivations. Man,

1533
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:52,680
Speaker 4: you know, I'm just.

1534
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 2: Saying I would think the motivation is the gold. Yeah, No,

1535
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 2: I get where you're coming from. If you got the gold, Like,

1536
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 2: could you imagine all that sacrifice, all that work to

1537
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 2: stand there on the podium with the gold medal and go, eh.

1538
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 4: Didn't it make it? Wouldn't it make it sweeter?

1539
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 9: Right?

1540
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:09,679
Speaker 4: You would think? That's my point?

1541
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, coming back from adversity, I don't know.

1542
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 2: You battle back, you put your your heart and your

1543
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 2: soul into it, You get all the way back, you

1544
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 2: get on the metal stand with your gold medal, and

1545
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 2: you're like, eh, I don't know, man, that was hard.

1546
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 4: Hard. It's like Bob Hubbok Bob Huggins trying to get

1547
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 4: the Lubbock. It's hard.

1548
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 11: It's hard.

1549
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 2: All right, that's talkbacks. We're all good for the day.

1550
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 2: That's all we got good stuff. Let's take a break

1551
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:46,879
Speaker 2: more after this, Let's talk about the Trey Hendrickson Indianapolis rumors.

1552
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 2: I didn't have space for that, but I'm going to

1553
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:53,680
Speaker 2: create space here because I was out of town and

1554
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 2: forgot to make it a topic or after that sincy

1555
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 2: three sixty y be in twoteen thirty.

1556
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 4: All right, let's keep it rolling. It's a little mix up.

1557
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 4: It's a little remix. Sean, you like it. You're mixing

1558
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 4: slick Rick with Montel Jordan here m. I like it,

1559
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:36,640
Speaker 4: thank you. I like it.

1560
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:38,639
Speaker 3: Pay no attention to the fact that I'm just using

1561
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 3: the same bumpers I used on the UC game yesterday.

1562
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 4: That's fine. Pay no attention to that.

1563
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 11: That's fine.

1564
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:48,720
Speaker 2: Let's get into this, this Trey Hendrickson thing, and we

1565
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 2: can we can work this into hour two a little

1566
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 2: bit as well. Reports are the Indianapolis Colts are going

1567
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 2: to be aggressive in their pursuit of Trey Hendrickson in

1568
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 2: a tag and trade. You know, the the time to

1569
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 2: do something like this would probably be the combine, which

1570
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 2: is coming up. You would, I think, want to get

1571
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 2: something done for this draft. And look, I mean just

1572
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 2: over I think thirty million, like thirty point five million

1573
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:29,600
Speaker 2: dollars to tag and trade Hendrickson. That would be a

1574
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 2: pretty good deal for the team. Wanting to get him

1575
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 2: for the next upcoming season, and then I'm sure if

1576
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 2: they could, they'd like to look at a longer term contract.

1577
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 4: I don't.

1578
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:44,799
Speaker 2: I wouldn't touch that with a ten foot poll. Given

1579
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 2: what we saw last season. The guy played seven games

1580
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 2: and didn't seem all that urgent to return and earn

1581
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 2: the rest of the salary that he signed and kind

1582
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 2: of held Cincinnati hostage for I don't have a very

1583
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 2: high opinion of the guy in terms of his football character.

1584
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:06,679
Speaker 2: I'm sure he seems like a great person off the field.

1585
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 2: Not judging him on that, I'm judging him. Would I would?

1586
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,680
Speaker 4: I want to be an owner with him in my organization.

1587
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1588
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 2: Is the juice worth the squeeze. There's a lot of

1589
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 2: there's a lot of juice. One of the best pass

1590
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 2: rushers in the NFL, he doesn't do a whole lot.

1591
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 2: It's kind of a pain in the rear end in

1592
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 2: the locker room from all things, at least in terms

1593
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 2: of from management's perspective. The Bengals aren't going to bring

1594
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 2: him back, So you got two options. You let him

1595
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 2: go into free agency and walk and just be gone.

1596
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:44,600
Speaker 2: Wash your hands of the process. Or you find a

1597
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 2: way to tag and trade him to a place like Indianapolis.

1598
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:54,600
Speaker 4: It's an interesting situation.

1599
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 2: Probably gonna get what a third fourth round pick, fifth

1600
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 2: round pick, something like that on a team that needs

1601
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 2: as much help as this team does defensively. You're taking

1602
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 2: a guy that's not going to play here this year,

1603
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 2: and you are trading him for an asset that could

1604
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:13,560
Speaker 2: get you at values somebody.

1605
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 4: That is.

1606
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 13: Sewn.

1607
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 4: It seems like a pretty simple math problem to me.

1608
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 4: It seems straightforward.

1609
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 2: Doesn't it let him go for nothing because in the

1610
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 2: other I've heard like compensatory pick. They'll get a compensatory

1611
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:28,680
Speaker 2: pick if they let him go. Okay, this is a

1612
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 2: Bengals team that's supposed to be active in free agency

1613
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 2: this offseason. Your compensatory picks are determined by what you

1614
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 2: bring in to offset the loss of the player that

1615
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 2: got away. So if they're active in free agency and

1616
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 2: they get a high level dude or two that would

1617
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 2: offset I mean. James Rapine pointed it out in an

1618
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 2: article this weekend. The year Jesse Bates got away, they

1619
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 2: brought in Orlando Brown junior that offset Jesse Bates. They

1620
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 2: did not get a story pick. So if you led

1621
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 2: Trey walk. You're letting them walk for free. Get something.

1622
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 2: This team needs help in a lot of different places.

1623
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 2: Go get something, find the help. I'm with you on

1624
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 2: the Duke Tobin front.

1625
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 4: Two. I just don't trust it. You've got to prove it.

1626
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 3: And what reason does anybody have to believe you when

1627
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 3: you've been here for this long?

1628
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 4: Right, it's make it happen, make me believe I see it. Yeah,

1629
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 4: all right, let's take a break.

1630
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 2: Klay Snowden from Just Baseball to open our number two.

1631
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 2: Since three sixty, ESPN fifteen thirty.

1632
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike since e three sixty about Cincinnati.

1633
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:47,599
Speaker 1: From Cincinnati. This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

1634
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:54,800
Speaker 4: All right, here we go our number three.

1635
01:29:55,160 --> 01:30:00,679
Speaker 2: On the way, we talked a bunch of Kyle basketball

1636
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 2: sprinkled in a little bit of Bengals. I'll save that

1637
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:06,800
Speaker 2: for the most part for Tony and Austin tomorrow. They

1638
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 2: are much more dialed in on the Bengals front than I.

1639
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:18,639
Speaker 2: Let's spend our number three talking about the Reds. Spring

1640
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 2: training games start this week. Starts Saturday, three o'clock. Sean

1641
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 2: McMahon on the Ones and twos, We don't think they're

1642
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 2: going to let him be a studio reporter for these games.

1643
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 2: But we can try it. Like I'm pushing the narrative, Sean,

1644
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 2: I'll talk to Tommy thro all about it. Yeah, just

1645
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 2: kick it to me if you need a little extra

1646
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 2: and we'll be good to go. But now let's go

1647
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:48,480
Speaker 2: out to our man at just baseball dot com, Claisnode.

1648
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 2: And if you don't follow Clay, follow him on Twitter.

1649
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 2: He is a great follow through the Red season.

1650
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:54,679
Speaker 4: Clay.

1651
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:57,559
Speaker 2: Clay's great. He doesn't get too high, he doesn't get

1652
01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:01,240
Speaker 2: too low. He stays even keel on the red Uh

1653
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 2: so's he's He's the He's the Phil Castellini of reporters.

1654
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:07,639
Speaker 2: Not a lot of peaks, not a lot of valleys.

1655
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 2: Clay is just gonna give you the hard hitting facts.

1656
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 2: How do you think about that, Clay?

1657
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 12: Well, I didn't expect to get insulted by getting called

1658
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 12: here we are jed.

1659
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:20,759
Speaker 4: Oh boy.

1660
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:21,360
Speaker 13: Uh.

1661
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 2: Phil Castellini now the owner, the controlling partner for the

1662
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Reds. And look, Clay, say what we will about this.

1663
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:33,959
Speaker 2: But in what is essentially his first act as controlling

1664
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:36,599
Speaker 2: partner of the Cincinnati Reds, they opened the purse strings.

1665
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:38,559
Speaker 4: They had their budget, They.

1666
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:41,320
Speaker 2: Told us what their budget was all along, and then

1667
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 2: they exceeded their budget to add a Uhanio Suarez to

1668
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:49,800
Speaker 2: a group that desperately needed offense. Is that a good

1669
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 2: sign for the future or is it a blip in

1670
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:52,679
Speaker 2: the radar?

1671
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 11: I'm not entirely sure.

1672
01:31:56,640 --> 01:32:00,839
Speaker 12: It's hard to say off you know, one signings sample size,

1673
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:02,639
Speaker 12: but I will say it's it's.

1674
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 11: Better than if we were talking about them doing.

1675
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 12: Nothing right, So a egg in one basket, I'd say,

1676
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:10,520
Speaker 12: But I'm not quite ready.

1677
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 11: To think it's a trend just yet.

1678
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 4: You're not making an omelet.

1679
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 11: Yet, right exactly.

1680
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:19,040
Speaker 2: I was at a hotel this weekend, you know, the

1681
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 2: the hotel breakfast that's usually pretty crappy.

1682
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 11: Clay, Oh, it's horrible.

1683
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 4: They had an omelet bar, fresh omelet station at the hotel.

1684
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:29,439
Speaker 11: What type of five star hotels do you stay in?

1685
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 2: It was an embassy suite in Bowling Green, Kentucky, but

1686
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 2: it was so nice. They had a Tony steakhouse attached

1687
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 2: to it.

1688
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 11: Oh my god, I did not realize you're a high roller.

1689
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 2: I mean, look, Clay, let's be honest with these volleyball trips.

1690
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 2: We don't have a say, right, They just say, we're

1691
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:46,880
Speaker 2: playing a tournament in this town, and here is the

1692
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 2: link to the hotel that.

1693
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 4: You are staying at.

1694
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:53,599
Speaker 2: And normally they're not exactly the most fancy hotel in

1695
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 2: the town. But this weekend, you know, I got a

1696
01:32:57,160 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 2: nice ham and cheese omelet on Saturday morning.

1697
01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 4: It was great, not too bad.

1698
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:06,599
Speaker 2: When you look at the prospectus for this team, how

1699
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 2: much for you to swar has change the math? We

1700
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:15,479
Speaker 2: talked incessantly about this. This team needed offense. They needed

1701
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 2: somebody that put fear in the opponent's pitching staff in

1702
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 2: the middle of that lineup.

1703
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:23,599
Speaker 4: Sworez gives them that.

1704
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 2: What does does it change drastically how you look at

1705
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:29,639
Speaker 2: this team? Does it change a little? How you look

1706
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:31,639
Speaker 2: at this team? What's the impact? Do you think?

1707
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:35,679
Speaker 12: I think it's big because this team needed power. Yeah,

1708
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 12: they really really liked lacked power. We saw you know,

1709
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 12: Elie Dela Cruz has power. He hasn't flashed it to

1710
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:45,559
Speaker 12: the level that we may have expected by now. And

1711
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 12: you know, Spencer Steer has some And you can go

1712
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 12: down the list and kind of talk yourself into it,

1713
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:54,320
Speaker 12: but there's no question about the power that Suarez brings

1714
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:58,120
Speaker 12: and I think that's exactly what this team needed. So offensively,

1715
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:02,519
Speaker 12: it's a huge list, but also it helps protect against

1716
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 12: what no one's really talking about, which is regression or

1717
01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:08,599
Speaker 12: potential regression from starting pitchers.

1718
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 11: This was a phenomenal rotation last year.

1719
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 12: It's it's not always just coffee and paste when you

1720
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 12: talk about pictures. If they were to take even a

1721
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 12: slight step back this year, Suarez helps in that regard

1722
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 12: of kind of water finding its level and keeping the

1723
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 12: Reds churning without so much reliance on the rotation.

1724
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 2: When you look at the rest of the lineup, the

1725
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 2: talk is it sounds like south Stewart's gonna get his

1726
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:42,559
Speaker 2: shot to earn first base. Does that seem like the

1727
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:46,679
Speaker 2: plan to you? And then Noelve Marte is that right

1728
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:47,519
Speaker 2: field or left field?

1729
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:49,759
Speaker 11: Do you think right? Right field?

1730
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 2: So that gives you two guys that potentially add more

1731
01:34:56,200 --> 01:35:00,639
Speaker 2: consistent offense into the lineup. I think you're looking at

1732
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:02,800
Speaker 2: Elie da la Cruz with a with a guy like

1733
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:08,679
Speaker 2: uh Gino batting behind him. Now he's got a little

1734
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 2: bit more protection, he can be maybe a little bit

1735
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 2: more aggressive overall.

1736
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 4: How do you like.

1737
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 2: This one through eight? One through nine. I guess with

1738
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:24,679
Speaker 2: the DH because it certainly feels like maybe you're gonna

1739
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 2: you're gonna look for Matt McLain to make some improvement.

1740
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 4: I don't know how much.

1741
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:30,800
Speaker 2: I don't know what the expectation on it, what improvement

1742
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 2: looks like for Matt McClain because he was so bad

1743
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:36,840
Speaker 2: last year. But does it at least feel like maybe

1744
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:39,639
Speaker 2: we're not gonna be looking at seventy games of two

1745
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:41,559
Speaker 2: or fewer runs.

1746
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 12: Yeah, And that that's the tricky part is there's enough

1747
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:48,599
Speaker 12: young players here that you still have to give some

1748
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:52,559
Speaker 12: run to, although they also have questions attached.

1749
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 11: Sure, you haven't really got to the point, you know.

1750
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 11: It's kind of like what I.

1751
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 12: Picture Spencer Steeer, Like, I think we all know what

1752
01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 12: Spencer Steer is at this point, and he's kind of

1753
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:05,599
Speaker 12: a year ahead of kind of what is Matt McClain,

1754
01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 12: what is Ellie Delakris? Like I know that they're all

1755
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:10,639
Speaker 12: around the similar age and came up at a similar time,

1756
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:13,679
Speaker 12: but it feels like we just don't quite know what

1757
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:16,599
Speaker 12: they are going to be and this is the year

1758
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:20,360
Speaker 12: where you prove it. There is no more giving Matt

1759
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:23,720
Speaker 12: McClain one hundred and sixty two games to figure it out.

1760
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 12: He's going to have a longer leash than maybe I

1761
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 12: would prefer, but it it is going to be a leash,

1762
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 12: they will not run him out well year hoping he

1763
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:37,080
Speaker 12: gets better. The time is now for these players to

1764
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:39,400
Speaker 12: truly take a step forward and show what they can do.

1765
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:42,759
Speaker 12: And I think the lineup has enough of a floor

1766
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:48,160
Speaker 12: that you're comfortable doing that with players like Marte and

1767
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 12: McLain and Stewart and seeing kind of what they can

1768
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:53,919
Speaker 12: be because you still have your Freedoles and your Steers

1769
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:57,520
Speaker 12: and your Stevenson's to kind of give yourself a baseline

1770
01:36:57,560 --> 01:37:00,479
Speaker 12: that you're comfortable with. So overall, I think the offense

1771
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:04,600
Speaker 12: could have used even more improvements, specifically left field, But

1772
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 12: I don't hate what they're doing out there, which is

1773
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:09,479
Speaker 12: kind of having an open competition, and when it's all

1774
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:11,919
Speaker 12: said and done, I mean, you could have a prospect

1775
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:14,280
Speaker 12: fill in there and if it comes down to it

1776
01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:18,840
Speaker 12: the trade deadline. Usually finding corner outfield is not too difficult.

1777
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 4: Are we looking at Spencer Steer and left like?

1778
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:21,800
Speaker 11: Is that?

1779
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:25,360
Speaker 4: Do you think that's the plan? Out of the gate.

1780
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 12: I think it's gonna be some combination of Steer and

1781
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 12: one of blade JJ Blodet, who they signed to a

1782
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:38,800
Speaker 12: one year duel this season, or Will Beinson. And I

1783
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 12: think that's kind of where the battle's gonna come is

1784
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:46,559
Speaker 12: between those two. At this point, you know, you could

1785
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 12: really argue Will Beinson all day with people if he's

1786
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 12: good or not.

1787
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:54,599
Speaker 11: And JJ blode is a similar enough player in terms

1788
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:56,800
Speaker 11: of we aren't quite sure what he is.

1789
01:37:56,880 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 12: He's shown some success, he struggled at times, and you

1790
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 12: just really have to hope one of those two guys

1791
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:06,680
Speaker 12: can click. And they also brought in Nathaniel Low's a

1792
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:10,920
Speaker 12: first base at DH much stronger track record, and you

1793
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 12: wonder if that guy makes the team, how does the

1794
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:17,680
Speaker 12: math trickle down, Because you still have Dane Meyers and

1795
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 12: Spencer Steeer who.

1796
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:22,680
Speaker 11: Could fill into the outfield. So there's a.

1797
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 12: Non zero chance that neither of Day or Benson are

1798
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 12: really much of a part of the team to begin

1799
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 12: the year.

1800
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 2: Do you feel they're now in a position to have

1801
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 2: a black hole offensively at third base?

1802
01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:37,040
Speaker 4: That's what they've got, right.

1803
01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:39,360
Speaker 12: I think that they signed up for that and they're

1804
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:41,559
Speaker 12: okay with that, And to be honest with you, like

1805
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:42,720
Speaker 12: it's not traditional.

1806
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:43,759
Speaker 11: It's weird.

1807
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 12: We all have certain profiles for certain positions, and you

1808
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:50,879
Speaker 12: profile third base it's more of a power hitter and whatnot.

1809
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:53,080
Speaker 12: But at the end of the day, it comes down

1810
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 12: when you ask me, it just comes down like, you know,

1811
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:57,639
Speaker 12: how many home runs total can you get if you're

1812
01:38:57,680 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 12: getting more offense from second base or you know, insert

1813
01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:04,720
Speaker 12: any position than what's traditionally expected, that all evens out.

1814
01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 12: I do think going with just the best defender you

1815
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:12,519
Speaker 12: can get at third base that brings little offense is

1816
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 12: not a thing, not not a strategy I would have done.

1817
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 12: But I don't think it's as bad as some painted

1818
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:19,040
Speaker 12: out to be.

1819
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:25,240
Speaker 2: You have recently, I think today put up a article

1820
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:30,040
Speaker 2: on the starting pitching and the guys that are involved

1821
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:34,280
Speaker 2: in that race for the fifth spot. How does that

1822
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 2: play out in your estimation and how does Cincinnati sit

1823
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:44,479
Speaker 2: when it comes to having something that is very elusive

1824
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:47,880
Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball, and that is actual legitimate starting

1825
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:51,280
Speaker 2: pitching depth for when a guy goes down, for when

1826
01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 2: you're without your two and year four for a couple

1827
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:58,639
Speaker 2: of weeks, or do they have enough to one fill

1828
01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:02,439
Speaker 2: that spot and also feel comfortable that they've gotten up

1829
01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:07,400
Speaker 2: in the tank for when the path gets a little bumpy.

1830
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:09,439
Speaker 11: Yeah, And I think it.

1831
01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 12: The complicated part of this is a number of these

1832
01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 12: guys are going to be on an innings restriction or

1833
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 12: or coming off serious injury. In fact, for the five

1834
01:40:19,439 --> 01:40:24,439
Speaker 12: are Chase Burns is by far and away, in my opinion,

1835
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:27,800
Speaker 12: the highest upside for twenty twenty six. I think there's

1836
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:29,760
Speaker 12: a chance he could be we look back in the

1837
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:31,439
Speaker 12: end of the year, he's the second best pitcher on

1838
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:31,800
Speaker 12: the team.

1839
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:33,000
Speaker 11: Like, I think that's possible.

1840
01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:36,080
Speaker 12: You know, he's still a young pitcher as in logged

1841
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:38,880
Speaker 12: a ton of innings, so you wonder what type of

1842
01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:43,920
Speaker 12: inning restriction he'll be on. Brett Louder and Brandon Williamson

1843
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:46,960
Speaker 12: are both coming off of injury, hardly pitched at all

1844
01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:50,400
Speaker 12: last year. One's more of a prospect, one's more of

1845
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:54,880
Speaker 12: the steady back end of the rotation. You're fine with

1846
01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:58,120
Speaker 12: a four point five ra type.

1847
01:40:58,360 --> 01:41:00,599
Speaker 11: Both of those guys are probably going to have some

1848
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:01,679
Speaker 11: type of inning restriction.

1849
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 12: In Julian Aguiar as well, who's coming off Tommy John

1850
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:09,160
Speaker 12: So you have this really complicated mix, and maybe it's

1851
01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:12,200
Speaker 12: as simple as whoever's the best in spring training you

1852
01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 12: get that fifth spot, We're all going to be watching

1853
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:17,719
Speaker 12: our inning totals. People will be coming up and down

1854
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:20,439
Speaker 12: and they kind of, you know, play whack a mole

1855
01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:23,880
Speaker 12: with who's coming up, who's going down, and try to

1856
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:26,840
Speaker 12: get creative unless someone just takes the reins and really

1857
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 12: runs with it.

1858
01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:30,559
Speaker 2: It's crazy because it feels like we've been talking about

1859
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:34,599
Speaker 2: this innings restriction stuff for three four years in a row,

1860
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:37,840
Speaker 2: and we said, still Brady Singers the only guy with

1861
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:40,320
Speaker 2: more a season of more than one hundred and fifty

1862
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:45,599
Speaker 2: innings what Green has won and nobody else is there

1863
01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 2: more than one hundred and fifty inns.

1864
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:50,240
Speaker 12: It's not terribly in common with players coming off of

1865
01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:54,600
Speaker 12: injury or you know, players working up to full workloads,

1866
01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:57,160
Speaker 12: but it would be nice to have somebody in the rotation.

1867
01:41:57,200 --> 01:41:59,599
Speaker 12: It gives you one hundred and seventy plus innings every

1868
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:00,240
Speaker 12: single year.

1869
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:01,920
Speaker 11: The Reds just don't have that.

1870
01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:03,919
Speaker 4: Bullpen.

1871
01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:07,000
Speaker 2: Are you confident with what they've got? Do you feel

1872
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 2: good about how.

1873
01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:12,240
Speaker 12: I like what they've done. I feel better about it

1874
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:15,600
Speaker 12: than I did last spring training. And I think that

1875
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:18,960
Speaker 12: there's a good mixture of veterans that have at least

1876
01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:21,080
Speaker 12: proven that they're major league pitchers.

1877
01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:22,160
Speaker 11: We aren't looking at a.

1878
01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:25,439
Speaker 12: Bunch of minor league signings of twenty eight year olds

1879
01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:29,479
Speaker 12: who've been in the KBO, you know, all these big red.

1880
01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:33,160
Speaker 11: Flags or whatnot. These are guys who may not be household.

1881
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:36,639
Speaker 12: Names, but they've been consistent and they're found major league

1882
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:39,479
Speaker 12: rosters year and in, year out, and at some point

1883
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:43,120
Speaker 12: you need those type of guys to fill innings, and

1884
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 12: then you have kind of your more upside swings with

1885
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:48,800
Speaker 12: someone like Graham Ashcrafter I thought looked good last year

1886
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:52,519
Speaker 12: and has something to build on. And Tony Santillon, even

1887
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:54,240
Speaker 12: though I have a little bit of worry about him,

1888
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 12: but you know, he was a workhorse last year. And

1889
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 12: Zach Maxwell's and Louis may Or kind of the two

1890
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:03,559
Speaker 12: young guys we saw briefly last year that have that

1891
01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 12: flamethrower mentality and maybe a little bit more upside than

1892
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:09,320
Speaker 12: the players they signed.

1893
01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:11,760
Speaker 11: But overall, the bullpen I like it.

1894
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 12: I don't think it's phenomenal, but I do think it's

1895
01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:16,200
Speaker 12: better in terms of depth.

1896
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:19,679
Speaker 2: Is there one of these guys in that fifth spot

1897
01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:24,400
Speaker 2: competition that you could see as an inning eater bullpen

1898
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:26,960
Speaker 2: type guy if they don't win in the starting rotation,

1899
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:29,400
Speaker 2: or don't make the starting rotation, or you think this

1900
01:43:29,439 --> 01:43:33,080
Speaker 2: is a situation where they say, here's our five starters.

1901
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:36,240
Speaker 2: We're gonna put the guys behind them in Louisville to

1902
01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:38,080
Speaker 2: keep them stretched out and ready to go.

1903
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:41,800
Speaker 12: Yeah, and that's something I was thinking about when I

1904
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 12: wrote the article a lot, and the name I came

1905
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:49,360
Speaker 12: on is Julian Aguiar, who brief pit who excuse me,

1906
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:52,840
Speaker 12: briefly pitched for the Reds in twenty four or miss

1907
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 12: last year, Tommy John. I just think his ceiling is

1908
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:59,479
Speaker 12: really limited in terms of a starting pitcher, and I

1909
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:00,639
Speaker 12: do think that he has.

1910
01:44:00,680 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 11: Enough to be kind of a bulk inning's guy out

1911
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:04,639
Speaker 11: of the bullpen.

1912
01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:07,800
Speaker 12: So if there's one guy that I would move to

1913
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:10,400
Speaker 12: the bullpen more or less for lack of a better term,

1914
01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:12,679
Speaker 12: full time, it would be him.

1915
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:16,120
Speaker 11: Just because I think that he's ready for a role.

1916
01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:20,040
Speaker 12: On the major lute team if he can carve one out.

1917
01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 12: And I'm not too concerned about, oh the what if

1918
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:25,519
Speaker 12: if he would have just stuck in the rotation someone

1919
01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:29,760
Speaker 12: like Chase Petty, who's twenty he'll be twenty three this year.

1920
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:32,080
Speaker 12: I'm not quite ready to do that. I think he

1921
01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:34,040
Speaker 12: needs another year in the minors. Let's see if his

1922
01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:38,160
Speaker 12: fastball can improve, and then you have that conversation next year.

1923
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:43,080
Speaker 12: But allow guys like you know, Petty Louder, Williamson, whoever

1924
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:45,120
Speaker 12: else and may be kind of build up that depth

1925
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:47,600
Speaker 12: if you want more of a bulk inning's guy, I

1926
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:49,719
Speaker 12: think at you or conserve that purpose.

1927
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:53,960
Speaker 2: And then I guess the ultimate question on the bullpen

1928
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:56,320
Speaker 2: is are they going to find themselves in a spot?

1929
01:44:56,680 --> 01:45:00,840
Speaker 2: I think last year it kind of call issues where

1930
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:03,720
Speaker 2: there was only like three guys they trusted in a

1931
01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:07,920
Speaker 2: game that you know was was winnable and everybody else

1932
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:10,599
Speaker 2: was will use you when we have to. But like

1933
01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 2: game on the line, we got three guys and we're

1934
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:15,320
Speaker 2: going with them no matter what.

1935
01:45:17,160 --> 01:45:17,840
Speaker 11: Yeah, And that.

1936
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 12: Was a scary part of last year, especially with the

1937
01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:23,200
Speaker 12: lack of the lefty. And I think that they, you know,

1938
01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:27,240
Speaker 12: bringing in Brockberg and Caleb Ferguson, two lefties who have

1939
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:32,280
Speaker 12: pitched multiple years in the majors, have had legitimate success

1940
01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:35,000
Speaker 12: multiple years in a row. Like, I think those two

1941
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:39,880
Speaker 12: guys are definitely going to help. And Pierce Johnson's another

1942
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:43,360
Speaker 12: guy who not long ago was closing out games. It

1943
01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 12: was a trade deadline move for for contender, and I

1944
01:45:48,520 --> 01:45:51,720
Speaker 12: do think that he's pitched in enough situations that.

1945
01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 11: Francona is gonna love that.

1946
01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:55,120
Speaker 12: If you need a day off and you need a

1947
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:58,080
Speaker 12: guy in the eighth and your bullpens spent, he can

1948
01:45:58,120 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 12: fill that role. You need a guy in the sixth,

1949
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 12: he can fill that role. So I think just having

1950
01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:07,600
Speaker 12: veterans that are not only proven but have played or

1951
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 12: excuse me, pitched in multiple roles is something that Tito

1952
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:12,080
Speaker 12: really wanted and they have it.

1953
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:13,120
Speaker 15: I got.

1954
01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:16,439
Speaker 2: I guess my final question here as we kind of

1955
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:21,840
Speaker 2: preview spring training look ahead to the storylines that are

1956
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:29,360
Speaker 2: we're gonna be talking about up until opening day, is this, Uh?

1957
01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 2: Is there anyone minor league wise that we're gonna be

1958
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:37,639
Speaker 2: tracking as the season goes along? Is Is there anybody

1959
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:41,880
Speaker 2: you feel like maybe they're not ready right now, but

1960
01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:46,120
Speaker 2: by July, by August, we're gonna be like hey, Like

1961
01:46:46,120 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 2: like south Stewart last year, everybody as the season heated up, like, man,

1962
01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 2: you got to get this guy up here? Who's that

1963
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:54,960
Speaker 2: next guy that we're going to be talking about? Position

1964
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:56,160
Speaker 2: player or pitcher?

1965
01:46:57,560 --> 01:46:59,720
Speaker 12: And I think that's One of the concerns is there's

1966
01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:02,719
Speaker 12: not many damnit this year that are kind of tracking

1967
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:06,960
Speaker 12: right now. But there is one in Hector Rodriguez, and

1968
01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:10,439
Speaker 12: he was acquired in the Tyler Naquin trade a few

1969
01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 12: years back. It's kind of a flyer prospect and he's

1970
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:15,360
Speaker 12: really took off. And the thing about him is he

1971
01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:17,679
Speaker 12: plays left field, so if you can't.

1972
01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:18,439
Speaker 11: Figure out left field.

1973
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:22,240
Speaker 12: I also think he's the profile that Terry Francona is

1974
01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:24,920
Speaker 12: going to love. This guy makes a lot of contact,

1975
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:29,040
Speaker 12: he grew into some power, and there was always a

1976
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:32,839
Speaker 12: question kind of like ces, oh gosh, this guy swings

1977
01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:37,920
Speaker 12: at everything that's bad. Last year he improved his walk

1978
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:42,240
Speaker 12: great drastically cut down. I'm swinging on pitches outside the zone.

1979
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:45,600
Speaker 12: Twenty one year old in double as, He's just advanced

1980
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:49,160
Speaker 12: for the hit tool, and I think that he's the

1981
01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:52,880
Speaker 12: type of guy I don't think opening days any expectation

1982
01:47:53,040 --> 01:47:56,160
Speaker 12: for him, But mid season I see him as the

1983
01:47:56,160 --> 01:47:58,960
Speaker 12: type that could hit enough and be enough of a

1984
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:02,799
Speaker 12: Francona proto type that that they call him up and give.

1985
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:06,120
Speaker 4: Him the field, and then what are your expectations for

1986
01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:06,719
Speaker 4: South Stewart.

1987
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:13,920
Speaker 12: I I just think he's one of the best all

1988
01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:17,560
Speaker 12: around bats, and I think his power last year it

1989
01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 12: was only.

1990
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:21,040
Speaker 11: Five home runs, but small sample that surprised me.

1991
01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:23,559
Speaker 12: I honestly did not think the power was going to

1992
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 12: be there just yet, and he showed more power than

1993
01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:28,080
Speaker 12: I expected.

1994
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:31,080
Speaker 11: So I'm not really ready.

1995
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:34,960
Speaker 12: To say anything's off limits for his season. I could

1996
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:38,040
Speaker 12: believe just about any outcome in a positive way for

1997
01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:42,519
Speaker 12: South Stewart. But I'm I'm really excited to watch him

1998
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:45,679
Speaker 12: and probably, you know, the most excited I've been about

1999
01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:46,840
Speaker 12: a prospect since Ellie.

2000
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:50,120
Speaker 2: But what do you think about like Rojo Lebra is

2001
01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:52,400
Speaker 2: a nickname for he looks so much like Nato Libra.

2002
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:57,200
Speaker 12: I had not considered that at all, But I hate

2003
01:48:57,200 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 12: that you said that because it will never leave my mind.

2004
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:00,920
Speaker 4: That's what I'm here for. Clay.

2005
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:03,519
Speaker 2: We haven't talked in a while. Every time he comes

2006
01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:05,320
Speaker 2: to the plate, you're gonna think Rojo Lebra.

2007
01:49:06,280 --> 01:49:08,160
Speaker 11: Oh, and I'm gonna cuss you for it.

2008
01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:11,280
Speaker 2: You can do it on social media. It's fine. Where

2009
01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:12,000
Speaker 2: can they find you?

2010
01:49:12,040 --> 01:49:17,519
Speaker 12: Clay out on Twitter at Clay Underscore, snow sn o

2011
01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:19,639
Speaker 12: and at just baseball dot com.

2012
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:22,639
Speaker 4: Love it and uh tease the the article real quick

2013
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:24,759
Speaker 4: as well, yeah.

2014
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:26,840
Speaker 11: It's just all about kind of what we talked about. Dude.

2015
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:28,160
Speaker 11: Now you don't even have to read it.

2016
01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 2: Well, you still should read it. You still should read it.

2017
01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:32,479
Speaker 2: There's other stuff in there we didn't talk about, right.

2018
01:49:32,920 --> 01:49:36,479
Speaker 11: Yes, yes, it's all about the fifth rotation spot.

2019
01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:38,080
Speaker 4: All right, thanks Clay, appreciate it.

2020
01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:38,360
Speaker 13: Man.

2021
01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:40,680
Speaker 4: There you go.

2022
01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:45,240
Speaker 2: Clay Snowden, my guy. I love Clay because he just

2023
01:49:45,240 --> 01:49:48,800
Speaker 2: gives it too straight. There's not a lot of hyperbole,

2024
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of like dread and doom and gloom.

2025
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:55,320
Speaker 2: Just right down the middle, fastball, right on the right,

2026
01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:58,479
Speaker 2: on the knees. You know what you're gonna get. So

2027
01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:01,320
Speaker 2: go check Clay out. He does great work for just baseball.

2028
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:03,559
Speaker 2: We'll talk some more riads when we come back. Since

2029
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:15,880
Speaker 2: that he's ESPN fifteen thirty.

2030
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:22,439
Speaker 4: Wow, old school. I think I'm doing pretty good today.

2031
01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:28,640
Speaker 4: I believe does it have? What song? This is?

2032
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 2: Sensitivity by Ralph Tresvant. That's exactly what I thought it was.

2033
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:38,720
Speaker 2: It's really weird because I was actually talking about this

2034
01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:40,320
Speaker 2: song this weekend.

2035
01:50:40,520 --> 01:50:43,400
Speaker 4: Really yeah, and this came out in like the eighties

2036
01:50:43,640 --> 01:50:47,280
Speaker 4: early nineties. I read your mind, you did, You're welcome.

2037
01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:47,800
Speaker 4: That's why.

2038
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:49,280
Speaker 2: It kind of freaked me out when I heard the

2039
01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:52,519
Speaker 2: opening to it. I was like, is that really Ralph

2040
01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:58,880
Speaker 2: Treasvan sensitivity? It is because I Valentine's Day, like you know,

2041
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:02,519
Speaker 2: I was. It was a play on a theme, and yeah,

2042
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:05,479
Speaker 2: I was singing that song earlier.

2043
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 4: This week.

2044
01:51:06,040 --> 01:51:09,559
Speaker 2: There you go, wild wild stuff. AP Top twenty five

2045
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 2: just came out. Michigan moves back to number one with

2046
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:20,679
Speaker 2: the two loss week for Arizona. So Michigan one. Houston two.

2047
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:28,520
Speaker 2: Great great game tonight, Sean Oh yeah, Houston in Ames

2048
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:33,200
Speaker 2: playing Iowa State, Hilton Magic, bring it on. We just

2049
01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:37,160
Speaker 2: saw on Saturday Iowa State takedown Kansas, who was fresh

2050
01:51:37,240 --> 01:51:40,679
Speaker 2: off a winover Arizona. The top of the Big twelve

2051
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:43,479
Speaker 2: is incredible. Not a great middle and bottom of the

2052
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:47,519
Speaker 2: league this year. Admittedly, the top of the league is awesome.

2053
01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:52,400
Speaker 2: Duke three, Arizona falls down to four, Yukon five, Iowa

2054
01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:56,720
Speaker 2: State six, produced seven, Kansas eight, Nebraska nine, Illinois ten.

2055
01:51:56,800 --> 01:52:00,720
Speaker 2: Miami checks in at twenty two, Louisville twenty one. If

2056
01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:05,400
Speaker 2: you're keeping track on potential names. If Cincinnati does come open,

2057
01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:10,240
Speaker 2: Saint Louis at number eighteen this.

2058
01:52:10,280 --> 01:52:14,000
Speaker 4: Week, you know, the shame of that game is tonight. Ed,

2059
01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:14,479
Speaker 4: what's that?

2060
01:52:14,600 --> 01:52:17,240
Speaker 3: I gotta be up at three thirty tomorrow. Oh, so

2061
01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:19,920
Speaker 3: I will not be watching you will not be doing

2062
01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:25,519
Speaker 3: the nine to eleven Houston Iowa State game. I will,

2063
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:27,960
Speaker 3: oh see, I'll be awake till eleven. I'm just not

2064
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 3: going to be watching basketball. I'm going to be trying

2065
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:30,880
Speaker 3: to go to sleep.

2066
01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:31,400
Speaker 26: Yeah.

2067
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:33,640
Speaker 2: The problem is like, if that's a great game, I

2068
01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:36,360
Speaker 2: have this problem all the time too. If that's a

2069
01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:38,200
Speaker 2: great game, there's no way you're going to be ready

2070
01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:41,400
Speaker 2: to sleep at eleven, No way, exactly, it's not going

2071
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:47,080
Speaker 2: to happen. Also in other news around the country, Sean, Yeah,

2072
01:52:47,120 --> 01:52:49,680
Speaker 2: there's a report that Olympic athletes have used up ten

2073
01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:52,759
Speaker 2: thousand free condoms in three days at the Olympics.

2074
01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:56,759
Speaker 4: That's possible. I mean, there's a lot of athletes right now.

2075
01:52:56,640 --> 01:53:00,439
Speaker 2: But like that's a lot of oh that I always

2076
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:04,760
Speaker 2: talk about, like the Olympic Village is is the wildest deal.

2077
01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:07,639
Speaker 3: I've heard that in sports. I feel like I don't

2078
01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 3: want to know the details of it. But at the

2079
01:53:09,400 --> 01:53:11,439
Speaker 3: same time, there's that little sliver of.

2080
01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:13,280
Speaker 2: Bo that does I mean, if you think about it,

2081
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:19,120
Speaker 2: you're talking about some of the best athletes in the world. Yeah,

2082
01:53:19,560 --> 01:53:22,519
Speaker 2: in their twenties, all in the same place at the

2083
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:28,200
Speaker 2: same time, co mingling, yep, a lot. I wonder how

2084
01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:31,240
Speaker 2: language barriers play. I don't think they care.

2085
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:33,280
Speaker 4: I don't think they do. I don't think they care.

2086
01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:35,920
Speaker 4: Not It might be a look and it's like okay.

2087
01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:38,439
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, like I got a pocket, I gotta, I

2088
01:53:38,479 --> 01:53:39,360
Speaker 2: got a pocket full.

2089
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:41,840
Speaker 4: Let's let's head back to the apartment. I wonder how

2090
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:43,720
Speaker 4: much the budget is for that anyway.

2091
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:47,160
Speaker 2: I mean, what's the you know, you could probably you

2092
01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:50,880
Speaker 2: could ai. What's the what they're getting them at cost?

2093
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:51,200
Speaker 11: Right?

2094
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:54,960
Speaker 2: I can't imagine they're paying full price for ten thousand condoms.

2095
01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:57,000
Speaker 2: They gotta think those are they gotta they got a

2096
01:53:57,040 --> 01:53:59,360
Speaker 2: deal with somebody getting those bad boys at cost.

2097
01:53:59,400 --> 01:54:00,720
Speaker 4: It's beyond my expertise.

2098
01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:04,439
Speaker 2: You know, we'll ask most coming in in like fifteen minutes,

2099
01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:06,360
Speaker 2: we'll ask maw oh man, you.

2100
01:54:06,280 --> 01:54:08,160
Speaker 4: Want a presidential fact for it today? I just want

2101
01:54:08,200 --> 01:54:10,080
Speaker 4: a presidential fact for presidents, all right.

2102
01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:12,120
Speaker 3: I promised, I promised the people of my Instagram i'd

2103
01:54:12,160 --> 01:54:13,439
Speaker 3: sprinkle facts throughout the show.

2104
01:54:13,479 --> 01:54:15,280
Speaker 4: But here's a quick cotting for you.

2105
01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:17,960
Speaker 3: William Howard taft, Yeah, guy used to have a statue

2106
01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:19,840
Speaker 3: outside of what was the Law College that you see

2107
01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:22,240
Speaker 3: rest in peace. Now it's a Patrick Grass. But William

2108
01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:25,120
Speaker 3: Howard Taft was a big golfer. He was the first

2109
01:54:25,120 --> 01:54:27,320
Speaker 3: president to play. It sparked a surge of interest in

2110
01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:29,760
Speaker 3: the game, as well as many critics who felt he

2111
01:54:29,800 --> 01:54:31,800
Speaker 3: should play less golf and do more work.

2112
01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:32,600
Speaker 4: I've heard that before.

2113
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:35,200
Speaker 2: That's a that's that's been a presidential thing for like

2114
01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:36,320
Speaker 2: fifty years now.

2115
01:54:36,680 --> 01:54:38,640
Speaker 4: The century, a century now.

2116
01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:42,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, Tafft was first to begin the tradition of

2117
01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:45,160
Speaker 3: throwing out the first pitch at Major League baseball games.

2118
01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:47,640
Speaker 4: He was the first to throw a ball.

2119
01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:51,400
Speaker 3: It was from his seat to then the Washington Senator's

2120
01:54:51,480 --> 01:54:55,160
Speaker 3: pitcher Walter Johnson on April fourteenth, nineteen ten, which was

2121
01:54:55,200 --> 01:54:56,040
Speaker 3: their season opener.

2122
01:54:56,800 --> 01:55:00,800
Speaker 2: Great presidential facts there you go. Wonderful stuff.

2123
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:02,480
Speaker 4: And I kept it old school, you know what.

2124
01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:05,600
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and to keep the clock integrity here,

2125
01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:06,760
Speaker 2: let's go ahead and take a break.

2126
01:55:07,040 --> 01:55:08,960
Speaker 4: We'll talk about the Reds offense. Thank you.

2127
01:55:09,280 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 10: Uh.

2128
01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:12,120
Speaker 2: And then to close the show, Mowagger will be in

2129
01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:14,320
Speaker 2: and we'll ask him about condoms.

2130
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:18,000
Speaker 4: Oh man, I'm not gonna warn him either.

2131
01:55:18,160 --> 01:55:21,840
Speaker 2: No, don't more after this since three sixty right here

2132
01:55:21,880 --> 01:55:23,520
Speaker 2: on Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

2133
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:32,360
Speaker 6: Hey, it's mowagor winter snows.

2134
01:55:33,200 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 2: I mean it feels like like a like a post

2135
01:55:35,840 --> 01:55:40,520
Speaker 2: Valentine's Day hour here some love songs, a little a

2136
01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:47,560
Speaker 2: little slow jam. I could sing all these songs, but

2137
01:55:47,640 --> 01:55:50,720
Speaker 2: you definitely don't want me to, Sean, I don't know.

2138
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:54,800
Speaker 2: It could be kind of fun for who, not the listeners,

2139
01:55:55,080 --> 01:55:57,480
Speaker 2: maybe for you. For me it would be yeah, not

2140
01:55:57,600 --> 01:56:03,680
Speaker 2: the listeners in any way shape or form. Reds five

2141
01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:09,760
Speaker 2: days away the start of spring training. We're getting some

2142
01:56:09,960 --> 01:56:18,440
Speaker 2: updates from a workout today on the social media's Charlie

2143
01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:22,040
Speaker 2: Goldsmith has just tweeted Chase Burns and the ie emojis,

2144
01:56:24,240 --> 01:56:26,000
Speaker 2: So that's good to see talking to.

2145
01:56:26,200 --> 01:56:29,040
Speaker 4: There's some people talking about and.

2146
01:56:29,080 --> 01:56:33,000
Speaker 2: Some video out there of Paris Johnson getting in some

2147
01:56:33,120 --> 01:56:37,680
Speaker 2: batting practice or getting in a live simulation simulation against

2148
01:56:37,960 --> 01:56:42,200
Speaker 2: Elie de la Cruz and Peers Johnson, sorry, against Elie

2149
01:56:42,280 --> 01:56:46,400
Speaker 2: de la Cruz and Aohaneo Suarez. He struck out de

2150
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:49,840
Speaker 2: la Cruise and then got Sorez to bounce out on

2151
01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:56,360
Speaker 2: a routine grounder. So exciting, I know, uh Suarez kind

2152
01:56:56,360 --> 01:57:00,840
Speaker 2: of the not kind of, I guess like the big

2153
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:03,760
Speaker 2: fish of the off season for the Cincinnati Reds, and

2154
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:07,520
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Reds doing what they have very rarely done

2155
01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:11,320
Speaker 2: under this ownership group, and that is going over what

2156
01:57:11,360 --> 01:57:16,720
Speaker 2: we know to be the assigned budget, going over what

2157
01:57:16,760 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 2: we know them looking at the bottom line and saying

2158
01:57:21,120 --> 01:57:23,400
Speaker 2: they have been very rigid. This is what we think

2159
01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:32,240
Speaker 2: we can spend in order to make our unpublished, untraceable.

2160
01:57:31,960 --> 01:57:35,440
Speaker 4: Balance sheet work. We don't know what that means.

2161
01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:39,200
Speaker 2: How much money they have to make whatever they have

2162
01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:42,280
Speaker 2: been pretty rigid on, this is our number. If we're

2163
01:57:42,320 --> 01:57:44,720
Speaker 2: going to make trades at the trade deadline, we're going

2164
01:57:44,760 --> 01:57:47,280
Speaker 2: to have to get rid of money before we add money.

2165
01:57:47,840 --> 01:57:48,680
Speaker 4: This is who they are.

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Speaker 2: They went out of their way because this team desperately

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01:57:53,400 --> 01:57:59,360
Speaker 2: needed offense. The question now becomes, over the next six weeks,

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Speaker 2: how much does Auhanio Suarez change? How much does he

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01:58:07,240 --> 01:58:09,840
Speaker 2: help Ellie de la Cruz in front of him? How

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01:58:09,880 --> 01:58:12,800
Speaker 2: much does he help by proxy? Let's say Matt McLain

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01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:19,040
Speaker 2: hit second, So now you've got Ellie and Suarez behind McLain.

2172
01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:21,080
Speaker 2: How much does that help McLain in the type of

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Speaker 2: pitching that he sees. How much does it help if

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01:58:24,120 --> 01:58:28,280
Speaker 2: you've got a run production guy, let's say in the

2175
01:58:28,320 --> 01:58:32,600
Speaker 2: four spot, how much does that help Spencer Steer? How

2176
01:58:32,680 --> 01:58:34,840
Speaker 2: much does that help Sal Stewart? How much does that

2177
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:38,080
Speaker 2: help Noel Vi Marte? And I'm gonna be honest, Sean,

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01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:43,080
Speaker 2: the more I say those names, the more I allow

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01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:45,800
Speaker 2: myself to feel a little bit better about the way

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01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:48,080
Speaker 2: that this Cincinnati roster was constructed.

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01:58:48,560 --> 01:58:51,480
Speaker 4: Now that we know Gino is going to be in

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01:58:51,480 --> 01:58:51,880
Speaker 4: the middle.

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Speaker 3: I think it's natural to feel better about this team

2184
01:58:55,640 --> 01:58:58,880
Speaker 3: with the pickup of Gino, But I think people also

2185
01:58:58,920 --> 01:59:02,560
Speaker 3: need to understand the new wants of picking him up offensively,

2186
01:59:02,640 --> 01:59:06,400
Speaker 3: because Tony and Moe and Austin have talked about this

2187
01:59:06,560 --> 01:59:09,960
Speaker 3: and Mo, but with Gino, you got to expect a

2188
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:10,760
Speaker 3: lot of strikeouts.

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01:59:11,480 --> 01:59:14,200
Speaker 2: You know, it's baseball and twenty twenty six, Brothers, I

2190
01:59:14,240 --> 01:59:16,600
Speaker 2: expect everybody to strike out at least one hundred and

2191
01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:18,600
Speaker 2: fifty times, right, right, But I.

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01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:22,480
Speaker 3: Just speaking specifically to Reds fans, right because I have

2193
01:59:22,520 --> 01:59:26,280
Speaker 3: a gut feeling that within thirty games now.

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01:59:26,200 --> 01:59:27,880
Speaker 4: I could be wrong about it. Strikes out too much.

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01:59:28,160 --> 01:59:29,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then Reds fans are gonna be calling for

2196
01:59:29,880 --> 01:59:31,760
Speaker 3: his head and they're gonna go, oh, it wasn't worth

2197
01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:34,720
Speaker 3: picking him up. You know, I just I'm a pessimistic

2198
01:59:34,800 --> 01:59:37,520
Speaker 3: kind of guy because I grew up in this town.

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Speaker 3: It's natural, I know, but it's natural for me to

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01:59:40,600 --> 01:59:42,400
Speaker 3: just be like, I feel like I can see how

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01:59:42,400 --> 01:59:45,080
Speaker 3: this is gonna go with the fan base. I hope

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01:59:45,080 --> 01:59:48,920
Speaker 3: I'm wrong by all accounts, by the way, but you

2203
01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:51,080
Speaker 3: have to take the good with the bad. If he

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01:59:51,120 --> 01:59:55,960
Speaker 3: does go for twenty five thirty home runs in this season,

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01:59:56,240 --> 01:59:58,520
Speaker 3: you can't look at that as anything other than a success,

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01:59:58,840 --> 02:00:05,560
Speaker 3: regardless of his on base percentage, regardless of I mean,

2207
02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:08,560
Speaker 3: even if he's not hitting homers. If he's getting guys

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Speaker 3: through the bases and getting guys home through flyouts or

2209
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Speaker 3: ground out or what you know, if he can move

2210
02:00:13,760 --> 02:00:17,240
Speaker 3: guys on the bases, that's also what matters to not

2211
02:00:17,320 --> 02:00:17,879
Speaker 3: just homers.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 2: You know what happens sean when you take the good

2214
02:00:20,520 --> 02:00:22,880
Speaker 2: and you take the bad, and then you take them

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Speaker 2: both and then you know what you have?

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Speaker 4: No, you have the facts of life.

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02:00:28,600 --> 02:00:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, look up that jingle in the break and

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02:00:32,200 --> 02:00:35,480
Speaker 2: play it coming out into moagger. You've never heard of

2219
02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:37,080
Speaker 2: the facts of Life.

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Speaker 4: I may have.

2221
02:00:37,920 --> 02:00:41,880
Speaker 2: I'm not great with with titles. It's a TV show, okay.

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Speaker 2: And one of the catchy line of the TV show

2223
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Speaker 2: was do you take the good, you take the bad?

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02:00:48,360 --> 02:00:50,080
Speaker 4: You take them both? In there you have the facts

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Speaker 4: of life.

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Speaker 9: Okay, that's simple enough.

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02:00:54,480 --> 02:00:56,880
Speaker 4: All right, I'll find the jingle. Do you think MO

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02:00:56,880 --> 02:00:58,600
Speaker 4: would appreciate it? Uh?

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02:00:58,720 --> 02:01:01,320
Speaker 2: Maybe, I mean, I'm I'm sure Mo. I guarant Moe

2230
02:01:01,480 --> 02:01:04,440
Speaker 2: is two weeks older than me. Okay, So Moe is

2231
02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:08,640
Speaker 2: absolutely familiar with the facts of life, no question, Okay,

2232
02:01:08,760 --> 02:01:17,320
Speaker 2: no question. Speaking of Mo, he is eagerly awaiting his

2233
02:01:17,440 --> 02:01:19,640
Speaker 2: segment here on Quick Hits.

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Speaker 4: So let's take a break. We come back. We'll talk

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Speaker 4: to Moeger.

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Speaker 2: We'll ask him about college basketball, We'll ask him about

2237
02:01:28,960 --> 02:01:33,000
Speaker 2: the reds, We'll ask him about the prophylactic usage at

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Speaker 2: the usage at the Olympics. More after this. Since he

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Speaker 2: three sixty Cincinnati EASYESPN fifteen thirty for.

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Speaker 1: Quick Hits on Tony Tykes since the three.

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Speaker 2: Sixty, So welcome back Quick Hits since he three sixty.

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Speaker 2: As we we get ready for the Moeger Show. Mo

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Speaker 2: in the last segment, Yeah, Sean McMahon was talking about

2244
02:02:02,360 --> 02:02:05,080
Speaker 2: the addition of a Hani a Suarez and how it

2245
02:02:05,160 --> 02:02:10,800
Speaker 2: impacts the audience Gino, and he said something along the

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02:02:10,840 --> 02:02:13,200
Speaker 2: lines of if you take the good and you take

2247
02:02:13,240 --> 02:02:16,440
Speaker 2: the bad, and then he carried on, and then I

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02:02:16,480 --> 02:02:18,280
Speaker 2: asked him. I said, Sean, if you take the good

2249
02:02:18,280 --> 02:02:20,880
Speaker 2: and you take the bad, and then you take them both.

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Speaker 4: You know what you have.

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Speaker 9: Did he have any idea what that meant?

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02:02:23,680 --> 02:02:25,320
Speaker 4: No, Sean, play it. You can have a.

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02:02:28,320 --> 02:02:30,440
Speaker 1: You take the good, you take him back, you take

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02:02:30,520 --> 02:02:32,680
Speaker 1: them and there you have the backs of life.

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Speaker 4: And he said, he said, would Moe be old enough

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Speaker 4: to remember?

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Speaker 9: You're kidding me?

2258
02:02:37,480 --> 02:02:40,000
Speaker 4: And I said, most two weeks older than me. He

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Speaker 4: didn't say old enough to be killed.

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Speaker 6: On the list of early childhood crushes, Nancy McKeon very

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Speaker 6: close to the top of the list.

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Speaker 4: Was that Blair or Joe? Yeah, you're yeah, I.

2263
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Speaker 2: Can see that tom Boy, Little tom Boy worked on

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Speaker 2: her motorcycle all the time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: On the list of like early childhood crushes, Nanton McKee

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Speaker 6: and was not the first, but she was pretty close to.

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Speaker 2: The top of the list. I was, I was, Who's

2269
02:03:08,560 --> 02:03:13,280
Speaker 2: the boss? Samantha Masselli, Alissa Milano guy at an early

2270
02:03:13,560 --> 02:03:15,920
Speaker 2: and just carried into adulthood. For me, she's talked her

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02:03:15,920 --> 02:03:16,920
Speaker 2: way out of it some.

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Speaker 9: Yes, but you know that's okay. Yeah.

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02:03:21,080 --> 02:03:21,640
Speaker 10: And then.

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02:03:23,280 --> 02:03:28,400
Speaker 2: Charles in chargele Eggert, and then Kelly Kapowski.

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Speaker 6: Kelly was the first team and she'll be a one seed, no,

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02:03:32,760 --> 02:03:34,480
Speaker 6: no question about that.

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Speaker 9: I could do three hours on childhood Crush.

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Speaker 4: We could. I could easily as well.

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Speaker 2: The sign or the piece on the wall says, this

2280
02:03:40,880 --> 02:03:43,360
Speaker 2: is supposed to be fun, to have fun.

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02:03:43,640 --> 02:03:44,120
Speaker 4: So I'm going to.

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Speaker 6: Ask you there was a time last year where for

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02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:48,520
Speaker 6: me maybe it wasn't always fun.

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02:03:48,680 --> 02:03:49,160
Speaker 4: That is fun.

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02:03:49,240 --> 02:03:50,920
Speaker 9: I had to remind myself, so I put that sign

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Speaker 9: up there.

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Speaker 2: What would you say the over under is on prophylactic

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Speaker 2: use in the Olympic village over a three day period.

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Speaker 4: Where would you set the lines? Uh, like per athlete

2290
02:04:04,760 --> 02:04:05,920
Speaker 4: just total total?

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Speaker 6: Well, they're using contraceptives, which is probably for the best.

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Speaker 2: Yes, what I want to know, not though, just super

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Speaker 2: athletes coming out of the Olympics.

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Speaker 6: We could how many of it is is like inner

2295
02:04:17,800 --> 02:04:20,040
Speaker 6: country breeding?

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Speaker 4: Yeah right? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Shawn asked if they spoke the same language. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I don't think they care. If you speak the same

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Speaker 2: right on language matters. This report says Olympic athletes have

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Speaker 2: used up to ten thousand free condoms in three days

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Speaker 2: at the Olympics.

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Speaker 9: Good for them, now are they just taking them?

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Speaker 4: That's what I wondered too. You've got a pocket for.

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Speaker 9: The stash them away? Or are they actually being used?

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Speaker 2: Because they're gonna be there for two weeks, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: in the first three days you're gonna try to load

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Speaker 2: up so you don't hit a shortage like you don't

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Speaker 2: want to be on day twelve and you're out of

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Speaker 2: your supply.

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Speaker 9: Or also bring some back as souvenirs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't get a gold medal, but I did

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Speaker 2: get this handful of condoms.

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Speaker 9: Gold, silver, and bronze colored content.

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Speaker 6: They should, they should, they really should. Well, good for

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02:05:08,040 --> 02:05:09,839
Speaker 6: the athletes out there in Italy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Miami Redhawk's basketball twenty five and zher awesome story.

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02:05:17,360 --> 02:05:18,680
Speaker 4: Really happy for Travis.

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02:05:19,520 --> 02:05:22,880
Speaker 2: Did they do themselves a disservice in the non con

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Speaker 2: They played one team better than one better than two hundred,

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Speaker 2: They played three d two teams.

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Speaker 9: Don't even count.

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Speaker 4: That don't count.

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Speaker 2: They legitimately, I think, have the second worst non conference

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Speaker 2: strength of schedule in America. As I said earlier, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure when they built this schedule, the idea was not

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Speaker 2: we're going to get in that large bit. Those leagues

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Speaker 2: look at it and say what matters is the conference tournament.

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Speaker 4: But did he kind of mess up a little bit there?

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Speaker 4: And does it matter?

2330
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Speaker 2: Because I think if they go undefeated, no matter what

2331
02:05:53,280 --> 02:05:55,040
Speaker 2: happens in the MAC Tournament, they're gonna get in that

2332
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Speaker 2: large If they lose one, yes, it gets dicey.

2333
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Speaker 6: And tomorrow is gonna be tough. Yes, had him on

2334
02:06:00,720 --> 02:06:03,000
Speaker 6: the ropes here three weeks ago. I think that's going

2335
02:06:03,080 --> 02:06:05,080
Speaker 6: to be a really big deal in Amhurst, big deal

2336
02:06:05,120 --> 02:06:07,960
Speaker 6: for Frank Martin. I think if you go to Ken Palm,

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Speaker 6: that is the game that Ken Palm.

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Speaker 4: Likes the least. For them. It's right there right so you.

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Speaker 9: Know tomorrow is gonna be tough. I talked about this

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Speaker 9: on the show on Friday.

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Speaker 6: If they run the table, if they went out and

2342
02:06:21,080 --> 02:06:24,800
Speaker 6: lose in the MAC Final, I have a hard time

2343
02:06:24,840 --> 02:06:27,480
Speaker 6: believing that the committee is going to say no.

2344
02:06:27,600 --> 02:06:30,560
Speaker 2: I anywhere in the MAC Tournament. Honestly, man, if you

2345
02:06:30,640 --> 02:06:33,920
Speaker 2: go undefeated in the regular season, I think you are

2346
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Speaker 2: going to get in.

2347
02:06:35,560 --> 02:06:38,040
Speaker 6: The Mets make it hard, man, The metrics do make

2348
02:06:38,080 --> 02:06:40,520
Speaker 6: it hard, but like the metric that matters more than

2349
02:06:40,560 --> 02:06:42,480
Speaker 6: anything is you got through a four month season with

2350
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Speaker 6: a zero yeah in the lost column, Like you know,

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Speaker 6: I might to courses on on Friday and he's like,

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Speaker 6: you know, somebody had strength of schedule three thirty nine

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Speaker 6: and somebody had strength of schedule three forty two. Those

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Speaker 6: teams didn't go undefeated, correct, So is it easier? Yeah,

2355
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Speaker 6: And look like they'll get in, but if they did,

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02:06:58,600 --> 02:06:59,840
Speaker 6: we'd still be questioning this.

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Speaker 4: Sure.

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Speaker 6: So like two thousand and four, Saint Joe's runs the table, Yeah,

2359
02:07:04,080 --> 02:07:05,960
Speaker 6: number one seat loses to Xavier.

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Speaker 9: They got a one seed.

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Speaker 6: Miami's not gonna get a one seat now, So it's

2362
02:07:10,160 --> 02:07:13,040
Speaker 6: it's apples to apples, but it's not because we're talking

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Speaker 6: about them getting in and maybe playing in Dayton. We're

2364
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Speaker 6: talking about them getting in and getting one of the

2365
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Speaker 6: very last at large bids. It's not gonna be you

2366
02:07:22,280 --> 02:07:25,160
Speaker 6: know what happened with Saint Joe's controversially, so remember Billy

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02:07:25,200 --> 02:07:27,760
Speaker 6: Packer made a big stink about it. So they're gonna

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Speaker 6: get in, but like who they get in ahead of whoever.

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Speaker 6: Let's say there's team sixty eight. Whoever team's sixty nine

2370
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Speaker 6: and is gonna have what how many losses?

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Speaker 9: Twelve?

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Speaker 11: Twelve?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Right?

2374
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Speaker 6: Like last year West Virginia was the last team on

2375
02:07:40,920 --> 02:07:43,960
Speaker 6: the outside of an they had thirteen losses. I think

2376
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Speaker 6: if you looked at the team's seat, right, But if

2377
02:07:46,560 --> 02:07:48,640
Speaker 6: you looked at the teams in Dayton last year, I

2378
02:07:48,680 --> 02:07:51,440
Speaker 6: believe for the at large, has had double digit losses.

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Speaker 9: I think Carolina had twelve.

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Speaker 6: So, like I know, it's not necessarily who's most deserving,

2381
02:07:56,480 --> 02:07:58,200
Speaker 6: But if you're a college basketball fan, who do you

2382
02:07:58,240 --> 02:08:00,120
Speaker 6: want to see more? Do you want to see how

2383
02:08:00,160 --> 02:08:03,000
Speaker 6: they would stack up in the Big Dance with zero

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Speaker 6: losses in the regular season or a team that lost

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Speaker 6: eleven or twelve games.

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Speaker 2: I think in that room, undefeated, they can they can

2387
02:08:12,120 --> 02:08:15,280
Speaker 2: just say they did it, like we're gonna one loss.

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Speaker 2: One loss is different. Now we have to start looking

2389
02:08:17,440 --> 02:08:19,960
Speaker 2: at the sheet. Now we have to start looking at

2390
02:08:19,960 --> 02:08:23,360
Speaker 2: the resume it and it gets hard. It gets hard

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02:08:23,760 --> 02:08:24,120
Speaker 2: from there.

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Speaker 9: I think tomorrow is going to be the big test.

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Speaker 2: Bearcats over Utah more than anything MO. They they played

2394
02:08:34,320 --> 02:08:37,240
Speaker 2: poorly in one. That's been the problem of the West

2395
02:08:37,240 --> 02:08:41,800
Speaker 2: Miller era. Great teams, great coaches, have bad games, and

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Speaker 2: you find a way to win.

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Speaker 4: He's not done that enough. They did it yesterday.

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Speaker 6: So many of those games where they have been where

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Speaker 6: they were with a minute and a half to go, yes,

2400
02:08:50,520 --> 02:08:55,400
Speaker 6: and they don't win, and you go, well, here's why

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02:08:55,480 --> 02:08:57,600
Speaker 6: they blew the lead they had when it felt like

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02:08:57,600 --> 02:09:00,280
Speaker 6: I felt like a halftime. It was a weird, weird

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02:09:00,280 --> 02:09:01,040
Speaker 6: first twenty minutes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it felt like Utah was going to be in

2405
02:09:02,960 --> 02:09:04,240
Speaker 4: that game to the end because.

2406
02:09:04,000 --> 02:09:06,480
Speaker 6: They were having their way inside, they weren't turning it over.

2407
02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:08,360
Speaker 6: It felt like they were running pretty good stuff. And

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02:09:08,440 --> 02:09:11,320
Speaker 6: then it was a three point game. Yeah, but you're right.

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02:09:11,480 --> 02:09:14,960
Speaker 6: I mean, they haven't had many of those like grind

2410
02:09:15,000 --> 02:09:17,640
Speaker 6: it out and find a way type wins where you go, okay,

2411
02:09:17,800 --> 02:09:19,320
Speaker 6: got to play better, but you got the win.

2412
02:09:19,480 --> 02:09:19,680
Speaker 4: Right.

2413
02:09:19,680 --> 02:09:21,920
Speaker 6: They haven't had many of those, and they did so

2414
02:09:22,240 --> 02:09:25,360
Speaker 6: after two games in which they played exceptionally well, now

2415
02:09:26,360 --> 02:09:27,680
Speaker 6: can they go to Lawrence No.

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02:09:29,920 --> 02:09:32,120
Speaker 2: I said this earlier. I've been to a lot of

2417
02:09:32,200 --> 02:09:35,280
Speaker 2: venues that was maybe the coolest. That's the one that

2418
02:09:35,320 --> 02:09:36,800
Speaker 2: I want to go to. That's at the top of

2419
02:09:36,800 --> 02:09:38,880
Speaker 2: my bucket list. You're not going to find a way

2420
02:09:38,880 --> 02:09:41,760
Speaker 2: to get out there. Saturday would love to. Instead, I'll

2421
02:09:41,800 --> 02:09:45,800
Speaker 2: go to Lubbock. But hey, getting back from Lubbock it's hard.

2422
02:09:46,640 --> 02:09:48,840
Speaker 2: It's hard. You ever try to get back from Lebbock.

2423
02:09:48,880 --> 02:09:49,200
Speaker 4: It's hard.

2424
02:09:54,000 --> 02:09:56,960
Speaker 6: They at the very least a week and a half ago,

2425
02:09:57,040 --> 02:10:00,240
Speaker 6: when Wes Miller was emotional in the postgame show, a

2426
02:10:00,240 --> 02:10:02,560
Speaker 6: lot of people thought this is about to fall apart.

2427
02:10:03,200 --> 02:10:03,840
Speaker 9: And it has not.

2428
02:10:03,920 --> 02:10:05,600
Speaker 4: We've thought that a bunch of times and it never

2429
02:10:05,600 --> 02:10:06,240
Speaker 4: falls apart.

2430
02:10:06,560 --> 02:10:07,480
Speaker 9: It has not.

2431
02:10:08,520 --> 02:10:10,520
Speaker 6: That doesn't mean you have to feel like Wes is

2432
02:10:10,560 --> 02:10:12,480
Speaker 6: doing a great job. That doesn't mean you have to

2433
02:10:12,560 --> 02:10:14,240
Speaker 6: feel like this team is on the verge of a

2434
02:10:14,360 --> 02:10:18,000
Speaker 6: miraculous turnaround. But I do believe in handing a measure

2435
02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:20,360
Speaker 6: of credit to teams when it feels like all the

2436
02:10:20,360 --> 02:10:22,560
Speaker 6: outsiders are thinking this is going to crumble in a

2437
02:10:22,600 --> 02:10:25,879
Speaker 6: double Yeah, and they've played well, They've played pretty connected.

2438
02:10:27,040 --> 02:10:29,600
Speaker 6: You know, I'm a big body language guy. I haven't

2439
02:10:29,600 --> 02:10:31,920
Speaker 6: seen a real dip in the body language like. I

2440
02:10:31,920 --> 02:10:34,160
Speaker 6: don't believe in giving a lot of credit for playing hard,

2441
02:10:34,600 --> 02:10:36,680
Speaker 6: but I do think there's something to be said about

2442
02:10:36,760 --> 02:10:39,440
Speaker 6: not falling apart when everybody thinks you're about to and

2443
02:10:39,560 --> 02:10:41,960
Speaker 6: everybody a week ago on Thursday thought they were about

2444
02:10:41,960 --> 02:10:42,560
Speaker 6: to fall apart.

2445
02:10:42,640 --> 02:10:45,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, fell apart after a loss of Cincinnati.

2446
02:10:46,720 --> 02:10:49,560
Speaker 2: Jerone Tank fired at Kansas State and they said they're

2447
02:10:49,600 --> 02:10:53,120
Speaker 2: going after him for cause for his comments after the

2448
02:10:53,200 --> 02:10:55,880
Speaker 2: UC game. We've got about a minute left here.

2449
02:10:56,160 --> 02:10:57,680
Speaker 6: Well, I guess what I would say is like, if

2450
02:10:57,720 --> 02:10:59,680
Speaker 6: you're going to fire me for cause for my comments

2451
02:11:00,080 --> 02:11:02,360
Speaker 6: the UC game, why did you let me coach against Houston?

2452
02:11:02,480 --> 02:11:02,640
Speaker 4: Right?

2453
02:11:03,240 --> 02:11:05,400
Speaker 2: Well, I think the reality is you have to do it,

2454
02:11:05,400 --> 02:11:07,480
Speaker 2: and if you've made the decision you're gonna go this route,

2455
02:11:07,560 --> 02:11:08,280
Speaker 2: you can't let them go.

2456
02:11:08,280 --> 02:11:09,840
Speaker 4: To the end of the year. I think it's just

2457
02:11:09,880 --> 02:11:11,280
Speaker 4: a negotiating.

2458
02:11:12,160 --> 02:11:14,440
Speaker 9: They're bad. Yeah, I have one league win.

2459
02:11:14,920 --> 02:11:18,640
Speaker 2: People talk about UC stinks. Like the other problem with

2460
02:11:18,720 --> 02:11:21,280
Speaker 2: West is they've never bottomed out. Not that it's a problem.

2461
02:11:21,680 --> 02:11:23,520
Speaker 2: Kansas State bottomed out. They're one and eleven.

2462
02:11:24,000 --> 02:11:27,280
Speaker 9: They're gonna finish UC with eight seven.

2463
02:11:27,120 --> 02:11:28,080
Speaker 4: Eight win league wins.

2464
02:11:28,120 --> 02:11:30,200
Speaker 9: Yeah great, I mean, you're not great at all.

2465
02:11:30,400 --> 02:11:33,040
Speaker 2: It's the word it's purgatory though. It's the worst place

2466
02:11:33,080 --> 02:11:33,400
Speaker 2: you can be.

2467
02:11:33,520 --> 02:11:35,880
Speaker 6: It is, but it's not you know, playing out the

2468
02:11:35,880 --> 02:11:37,920
Speaker 6: string with one win, two wins.

2469
02:11:38,320 --> 02:11:39,200
Speaker 9: You're a lasting stuff.

2470
02:11:39,640 --> 02:11:41,080
Speaker 4: Ten seconds. What do we got coming up?

2471
02:11:42,120 --> 02:11:44,760
Speaker 9: We're gonna talk about the the year of Velly.

2472
02:11:44,560 --> 02:11:47,080
Speaker 4: Delacru Okay, excited, Well.

2473
02:11:47,480 --> 02:11:48,000
Speaker 9: Here we go.

2474
02:11:48,640 --> 02:11:49,280
Speaker 4: Have a great shot.

2475
02:11:49,320 --> 02:11:50,280
Speaker 9: I can't wait. Let's go.

2476
02:11:50,520 --> 02:11:55,800
Speaker 4: That's it Since the three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty, Wise.

2477
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