1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Kind of at four thirty, we're gonna talk a little 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: bit of free agency. Our guy Nick Cosmider, who we 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: had on yesterday, kind of went through the list of 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: free agents of players he thinks are going to be 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: back and the ones that he thinks the Broncos will 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: move on from. And it's a very fascinating thing because 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: there's one specific player there's a bit of a lightning 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: rod for Broncos fans. They don't want him back, and 9 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: I don't think I agree with that. Explain that at 10 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: four thirty. We'll get to that coming up. Also, maybe 11 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: some empathy or Chris Bryant get to that a little 12 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: later on as well, But right now I think it's 13 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: appropriate we need to have a bit of a positive conversation. 14 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: I was listening to Mike Lafleur, the new head coach 15 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals, talking about his new offensive coordinator, 16 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett, espousing how optimistic and happy he is that 17 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett is his offensive coordinator. Here's the sound. 18 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 19 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's so many. 20 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: Factors in success and not like it's like define success. 21 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: I get what you're gonna say, Well, wins and loss 22 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: as well. 23 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 3: I can say sometimes it's a little bit more than 24 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: that with the variables that are placed in the NFL. 25 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: So he's been very successful. 26 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 3: He's very thought of, particularly within our profession. And there's 27 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 3: not a Q I mean, like, if you guys believe 28 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 3: one thing from this from this press conference, it is 29 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 3: literally I wanted him and nobody else and and he's here. 30 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: So Michael Floor won, Nathaniel Hackett and nobody else as 31 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator. 32 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 4: Shelby, I'm not gonna call d S because I think 33 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 4: we all know it is. But I think no matter what, 34 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 4: when you're bringing a guy in, you don't ever want 35 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 4: to tell everyone, oh, he was my last option, he 36 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 4: was my fifth option. You know, you know, nobody wants 37 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 4: to come here. So you know what I mean that 38 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 4: that's not what you want. That's not the verbis you 39 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 4: want to use. That's not the message you want to, 40 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 4: you know, get out that because that's already a negative. 41 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 4: That's just to your team. When it's like, this is 42 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 4: the fifth guy we had to interview, and he was 43 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 4: begging for the job, so we had to so we 44 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 4: gave it to him. He's the only one that wanted it. 45 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: Shelby, we're taking the high road. Now we're moving on. 46 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 4: Well, no, I'm not saying that I'm I'm right on 47 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 4: twenty five right now, I'm on the highway. So the 48 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 4: way I look at it, though, is that I don't 49 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 4: think it was his only option. I don't think it 50 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 4: was his only choice, but it was the one that 51 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 4: accepted it. So no matter what you're gonna tell everyone, 52 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 4: he's my number one option. 53 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: That's true. 54 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 4: He is the guy, and the fact that he had 55 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 4: to say it in an interview tells you it. 56 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: Was a lie. I did like for a moment, I 57 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: did like Michae Lafleur a little bit both sides in it, 58 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: because he's like, I know that you're gonna tell me 59 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: I'm an idiot, but this is why I think I'm right. 60 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: But listen, I know that you're gonna say that I'm wrong, 61 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: but I think I'm right. Like he was, He's doing 62 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: the whole conversation with the media as though, like, I 63 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: understand what he looked like with the New York Jets, 64 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: with the Difver Broncos, but the tell I'm telling you 65 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: he's had a lot of success because you go look 66 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: at Jacksonville. Look at his other stops, Green Bay, et cetera. 67 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: So I did like that. But we as Broncos fan, 68 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: we can move on. We we are in a much 69 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: better place today, are we, Grant, Somebody's gotta win this now, 70 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: see we gotta I told you we're gonna high road. 71 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: That's we're gonna We're gonna retire that Grants. Are we 72 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: gonna retiring that. Somebody's gotta win this game? So Grant's 73 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: not ready to move on yet. 74 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 4: Apparently I don't think Broncos Country is either. 75 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: No, I can tell either the comments from Twitter. 76 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 4: I don't think they're ready. I don't think they're ready. 77 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 4: And that's okay. 78 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: What will it take to move on? What will it 79 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: take for Broncos Country to be like, you know what, 80 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: whatever he's in, he's in the NFC, we don't even 81 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: have to play this guy. 82 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 4: I say give it ten years, ten years, because as 83 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 4: long as the Seahawks are good, and you know, and 84 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 4: maybe even if the Broncos win the Super Bowl, okay, 85 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 4: then they'd be like, all right, you know, all all 86 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 4: is forgiven. We can forget about this year. 87 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: Year because it wasn't even a full season. 88 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 4: It was what fifteen games? 89 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody, I correct, and. 90 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 4: I'm just happy I did five parts in handing the first. 91 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: Oh wow, just drive that knife a little deeper. 92 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 4: Their show this has nothing to do with me. I actually, 93 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 4: you know, obviously wanted to be I actually remember, and 94 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 4: I tell the story before I got traded. I remember 95 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 4: I went up to Hacket's office and I was like, 96 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 4: you know, I think it's time I take that next 97 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 4: step in my career. You know, I think you know, 98 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 4: of course I'm a hummable guy. But you know, he's like, 99 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 4: I was like, I think it's you know, time for 100 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 4: me to take the next step in my career. You know, 101 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 4: you know obviously like you talking about Pro Bowl, all 102 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 4: pro Like I want to really let, you know, elevate myself. 103 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 4: He's like, you know, next week we'll talk about Oh no, 104 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 4: and then I take it next week because it was 105 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 4: it was like the last day of the week. So 106 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 4: like he was like, all right, like we can talk 107 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 4: about this because he's like, obviously I've seen and I've 108 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 4: helped guys get there. 109 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: Didn't give you the like ooh you're still here. No, okay, 110 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: but you. 111 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 4: Know, obviously I don't take I don't take any ill 112 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 4: will from it. I just think it was funny because 113 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 4: you know, that was me trying to be genuine with 114 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 4: him and trying to just like create a relationship, and 115 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 4: then I got traded. But no ill will. 116 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: Okay, but Broncos fans justifiably should still have ill will 117 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: to Nathania Hacke. 118 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 4: It It's just it was such a disappointment in their eyes, 119 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 4: you know, from having all that excitement, all that anticipation. 120 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 4: Everyone's like, all right, yeah, like and I started the 121 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 4: same thing. Super Bowl. You know, you traded for a quarterback, 122 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 4: you're thinking super Bowl for them. And I think that's 123 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 4: why I'm so mad about it, because we talked about 124 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 4: Super Bowl for the Broncos and everybody had false hope. 125 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 4: And there's nothing worse than fall. You will remember all 126 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 4: the times people made promises to you and they didn't 127 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 4: come through with them. And that's kind of how I 128 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 4: feel like Broncos fans feel about the Nathaniel Hackett face. 129 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: Oh if somebody's gotta win this game, my god, grant See, 130 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: it's different for me than Josh McDaniels. Like Josh McDaniels, 131 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: he came in and took a sledgehammer to the rostero. 132 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: I guess in some ways Nathaniel Hackett did. But that 133 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: wasn't exactly Hackett that came in and did that. That 134 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: was the front office that was owner, I mean temporary 135 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: ownership at the time. But it was a little bit 136 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: different than Josh McDaniels saying I can't win with this quarterback. 137 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: I gotta shot ship this guy out of here. Like 138 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: he just moved on from everybody, and then he cheated 139 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: on top of that, Like I understand why decades later 140 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: people will hate Josh McDaniels. And then he went to 141 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: the Raiders, so he only made it worse. And of 142 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: course he flamed out there, which was actually great. But 143 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett, You're right, the the ineptitude, the I hesitate 144 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: to keep going. But you understand what I'm saying, like 145 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: four points. 146 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 4: And you're gonna you're gonna be bigger than what it was. 147 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: But are we beyond it in some ways because the 148 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: dead cap hit from Russell Wilson's contract is off the 149 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: books officially. 150 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 4: Should be should be a way, you know, a championship game, 151 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 4: the longer you hold on to it, the more it's 152 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 4: gonna hold the Broncos back, and I'm not even talking 153 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 4: about the players. Hold on, jump up with the fans, 154 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 4: you know, let it go, let it go, you know, 155 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 4: just let it go and everything will be okay. You know, 156 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 4: everything will be fine. And you know this team that 157 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 4: Sean and George have built is a team that you 158 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 4: can be proud of. Is gonna go out there and compete. 159 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 4: That's who you need to focus on. 160 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: Feel weird to hear that singing coming up in a 161 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: little bit. 162 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 4: I tell my wife, you know, just sit there for 163 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 4: a recorder, you know, while you listen to radio, because 164 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 4: I want to send out all these clips to all 165 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 4: the music moguls because I think they're missing the next 166 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 4: big thing. I'm right ere. You can come get this 167 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 4: any anytime. I'm available. Bars Simpson, that's actually my rap name. 168 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 4: I told my daughter that, not Bart Simpson, Bar because 169 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 4: I got Bars Simpson. That's pretty good. Yeah, thank you, 170 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 4: my family does. It's such a haters. I appreciate that. 171 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: That's clever, that's fun. 172 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 4: I love it, Simpson. 173 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it Usually, uh like Nick comes on 174 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: the show Ferguson and he creates all sorts of weird 175 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: names and characters. Bar Simpson though that pretty strong, Bars, 176 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: Bars and Bars Simpson, I gotcha, man, that's pretty cool. 177 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,239 Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. Five six six nine zeros Ka Commas 178 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: purdyal text line, Uh so we're gonna get to a 179 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: conversation about Brock's free agents and also Mick cronin. 180 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 4: Chocolate bars to chocolate bars. You see, you get it? 181 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: What am I supposed to do with that? Okay? Noted? 182 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: They what that nice? Uh So I like this. Hey, 183 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,599 Speaker 1: somebody's got to be petty. Why not talking about Nathaniel Hackett. 184 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: A lot of somebody said, I'm not over it. A 185 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: lot of people saying they're run over it. I like 186 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: your point though, before we had to break the butt 187 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: on the hour about the Broncos having success post Hacket. 188 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: I think if that era, and by the way, shipping 189 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: all of those picks including players, ended up helping the 190 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks win a Super Bowl this last year, should 191 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: be noted that just saying you know, you're a part 192 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: of it. They demanded, they demanded, is you as part 193 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: of the deal. Wouldn't have gotten done without. 194 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 4: You without a big shot. I'm just saying, yeah, one 195 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 4: year in my life. 196 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: Bars since the Bars Seattle. 197 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 4: Chocolate Bar is not to hers. 198 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: Well, Seattle's up for sale, not the city, but the franchise. 199 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 4: We've been I was even about that when I was there, 200 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 4: that they were pretty much waiting for the right time 201 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 4: to put it up for sale because after Paul Allen died, 202 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 4: his sister really didn't want anything to do with it, 203 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 4: so she was just holding on to it until now 204 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 4: it's the perfect time of sale. And I think, what 205 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 4: it going to make? Billions? Billions. They bought it for 206 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 4: a couple hundred million, and now it's going to make billions. 207 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: I now, I saw somewhere with said more like six billion, 208 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: which again would set records. Grant saw somewhere that might 209 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: be awards of ten there's a pro football talk of 210 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: wards of ten billion with a b wow. Well they 211 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: just won the Super Bowl. It's a very valuable franchise 212 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: right now. 213 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's a bright future for them. 214 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: It seems like, and I know it's all like kind 215 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: of silly money because nobody can relate to it. But 216 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: the biggest indicator of wealth, right, I mean, one of 217 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: them owning a sports franchise. They don't appreciate value, No, 218 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: they just they only appreciate. It doesn't matter really at 219 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: what level. Like, they did a thing and I'll see 220 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: if I can find this really quick. They did a 221 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: thing that where they broke down the value of Oh, 222 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: here we go. I got fout it. So the average 223 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: value via Sportico valuations did one hundred and fifty four teams, 224 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: the big five in US markets. What do you do, 225 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: guess is the average for NFL valuation? The average, Yeah, 226 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: valuation of an NFL. 227 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 4: Team seven and a half billion. 228 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: You nailed it, Yeah, seven point one three. Average for 229 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: NBA is five point five. Average for MLB drops a 230 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: two point eight. 231 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 4: And that's why they're going so hard for the salary cap. 232 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 4: I saw an article about that that they're pretty much 233 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 4: fighting for the salary caps because they feel like what 234 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 4: the Dodgers is doing is really hurting every team's evaluation 235 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 4: every year. 236 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, the highest valued MLB team is the Yankees obviously 237 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: at eight point three nine billion. The Dodgers are seven 238 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: point seven to three, and then Boston, who's, by the way, 239 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: the thirty third ranked team on this list is a 240 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: little over six billion. Dallas is number one at twelve 241 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: point eight. Golden State is actually second on this list 242 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: at eleven point three, The Rams, the Giants, Lakers, Nicks, Patriots, 243 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: the Broncos show up as far as valuation at twenty 244 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: one at six point five to five billion. But again 245 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: appreciation because the Broncos were purchased for like four and 246 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: a half and it's already six and a half. 247 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 4: Isn't that crazy a couple of years ago. 248 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: Two billion dollars? It just existed. 249 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 4: And also helps that you know the team is on 250 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 4: the up. 251 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: And the team is on the app That does help. Yeah, 252 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: it's remarkable to look at this list and you know, 253 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: you look at like where the Ads rank and where 254 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 1: the Nuggets rank, and then all of it compared and 255 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: just where the NFL. You know, we can we can 256 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: we look this again on the other side, maybe a 257 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: little bit later on. I do want to hear the 258 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: mc cronin audio. Do you hear him going off? Yes, Yeah, 259 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: that's pretty good. It's not his first time, but we'll 260 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: hear that coming up next to also get into a 261 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,599 Speaker 1: little conversation about Broncos reagency. 262 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 4: Don't forget because you support Ryan too boy. 263 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: Band boy band that was Ben Ben was in the 264 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: boy band. I did more like a nineties kind of 265 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: band like that. Thank you Grant at two at two grand. Anyways, 266 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: so I'm always gonna support the singing. I just say, 267 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: be you and and it's fun for me because we 268 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: get a bunch of sound out of it, and then 269 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: I get Grant who remixes it later on, and so 270 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: maybe I'll get a chance to hear you singing let 271 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: it go along with a Dina Minzell. 272 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 4: Well, don't forget last year we had big girls don't Cry. 273 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: I remember that. 274 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 4: So, yeah, you know, the voice has range. 275 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get across to you guys that I 276 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: range carry and there's Shelby Harris. You basically can't tell 277 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: the two voices apart from a range standpoint, like. 278 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 4: Mariah Carey, whitting Houston, Shelby Harris all the same, the 279 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 4: same breath. 280 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Grant's gonna say that for ever. We're gonna 281 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: do a conversation about the Broncos free agents. Our guy 282 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: Nick Cosminder went through the free agent so I talked 283 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: about guys he expects to stay and guys he expects 284 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: to leave. But for a moment here Mick cronin last night, 285 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: Now we did this for showing me the money it 286 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: does not work out so well for me. I went 287 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: on too, you went one and one at. 288 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 4: Least one in one today too, And I'll just wait. 289 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: But the story isn't that Michigan State blew out UCLA. 290 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: The story became Mick Cronan, the head coach of UCLA, 291 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: going after a reporter after the game because he was 292 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: asking about something that happened in the student section for MSU. 293 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: And here's what he said. 294 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 3: What was your thoughts in the student section, channing Booker's name, 295 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 3: I could give a rats answer about the other team's 296 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 3: students section. 297 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: I've just got to overall the way that I would 298 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: like to give. 299 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: You a kudos for your worst question that even asked right? 300 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: Did you like your sh take it the preparation? Do 301 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: you really think I care about the other No? I don't. 302 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 4: I don't think you care about the other question. 303 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: No, yay, you are here? You are come on, dude, 304 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: no reason, Yes you were. 305 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: Everybody's standing here listening to you. 306 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 4: Everybody this is on camera. They can hear you. 307 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: Oh, I answered the question. 308 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: I could give a rat's ask about the other team's 309 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: student section. 310 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: I coach UCLA. 311 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: I don't care about mission in State students who cares. 312 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: Now, maybe he's does this all the time, and we'll 313 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: play a couple of others here in a second. But 314 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, what's your What do you think 315 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: about when you heard that? 316 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 4: I think it's kind of valid. 317 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: Really do you think you're telling the reporter it's the 318 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: worst question I've ever been asked. 319 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 4: If that's what's on your heart, let it know. Come on, 320 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 4: because this isn't football where you have stat counts, you 321 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 4: know what I mean, So the student section it's more 322 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 4: for show in basketball, you know, obviously, you know. 323 00:15:58,920 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: Than just say that. 324 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 4: No, he's never given that simple of an answer before that. 325 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: Actually that's fair. 326 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 4: Yes, this is who he's been. Obviously, we have clips 327 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 4: of him with the most outrageous comparisons in the world, 328 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 4: talking about like Eastern Europeans and that's what he wents 329 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 4: for sitters, the ones that wrestled bears, And this is 330 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 4: what you're going to get from him. And so I'm 331 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 4: not really surprised about his response. 332 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, here's another one, just just for fine, talking about 333 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: his players being soft. I think this is what you're 334 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: talking about. 335 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: So don't just don't tell me you want to win. 336 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: And I have to run on the court to get 337 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 2: guys to play hard. It's crazy, you know, And it's 338 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: every day. 339 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 4: I'm tired of it. 340 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: It's every day. 341 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: I have the most energy of all of anybody at practice, 342 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 2: every day I have. I'm upset with everybody in that 343 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: locker room, my assistant coaches and my players. 344 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't need to do anything else. I 345 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: almost got five hundred wins. I'm only fifty three. 346 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: You think you think I'm coaching the Lakers. 347 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: When it's a joke. What the truth of it has been. 348 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: It's really hard to coach people that are delusional. The 349 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: hungry dog gets the bone. 350 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 4: We got guys that. 351 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 2: Think they're way better than they are. They're nice kids, 352 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 2: they're completely delusional about who they are. And the team 353 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 2: that's mine is on the right stuff and hungry to 354 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: get a win in conference play is the team that's 355 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 2: probably gonna win. 356 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: See this one's interesting. First of all, conn player soft 357 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: is I agree with them. Okay, fine, but like everything 358 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: he said there, I agree with them. That last one, 359 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: I agree with everything he said there. You you shouldn't you. 360 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: You gotta be careful. We talked about this years ago 361 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: when it was gosh, Mike, uh, Michae Malone. Yeah, Michael, 362 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: i'mke does not want to be called Mike. Michael Malone. 363 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: And he called his players soft once in a press 364 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: conference and we were like, boy, you gotta be careful 365 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: when you jump. You just throw that out there as 366 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 1: a coach, because you're you're very clearly sending a message 367 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: through the media to your players, like the players are 368 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: all going to hear that you're sending a message. You 369 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: drop that in there, and that's it's a bit of 370 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: a nuclear bomb when you when you say, hey, you 371 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: guys are soft, because it's like the one thing you 372 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: can't call players, so one thing you can call them self, 373 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: but you can call almost anything. You call them soft, 374 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: and you're very clearly trying to like blow this thing 375 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: up and reset the brains of the guys in your 376 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: locker room. 377 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 4: That's how soft they are. Though, If that's going to 378 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 4: piss you off, if being called soft is going to 379 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 4: hurt your feelings, then the word fits. Like we played football. 380 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 4: You don't think coaches have called players soft in football before? 381 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but not in the media. It doesn't happen hard matter, 382 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. 383 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 4: The one thing that he said that really hit home 384 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,479 Speaker 4: though for me, it's really hard to coach kids who 385 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 4: are delusional, and that is the truth. Nil era is 386 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 4: transport era. Everyone thinks, and their parents too. Everyone thinks 387 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 4: they're number one overall. Everyone thinks their first round, but 388 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 4: they don't have first round work ethic. They don't. You know, 389 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 4: he's saying he has the most energy on the court, 390 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 4: and that's I understand everything he's saying. But also though 391 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 4: I guess I get what you're saying, coaches should not 392 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 4: be calling their players soft. But the reality is a 393 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 4: lot of the guys coming up are they don't know 394 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 4: how to handle adversity. They run away from adversity, they 395 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 4: run away from hard work because this is what we 396 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 4: are allowing them to do. Like I've always said, the 397 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 4: one of the most important things I didn't realize it 398 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 4: right away, the most one of the most important things 399 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 4: I ever did in my career was redshirting at Wisconsin 400 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 4: because all you did was work. All you did was work. 401 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 4: But nowadays, if you hear red shirt, it's I'm transferring 402 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 4: or I'm doing so I understand and I we're talking 403 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 4: about him calling people's solf and he just let his 404 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 4: feelings out because it's probably how he really feels and 405 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 4: I feel it too. And until these kids come up 406 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 4: and prove you wrong, you're gonna keep calling them so off. 407 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 4: And if you don't want me to call you solf, 408 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 4: that prove. 409 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: Me are you're not back to the original. And then 410 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: again we're playing audio here for Mick Cronin, the head 411 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: coach at the UCLA being asked about the students section chanting. 412 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: I mean, whether it's a good question or a bad question. 413 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: I mean, at some point, I think that there's there's 414 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of a pressure maybe maybe justifiably sometimes 415 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: for media of coming up with something like you feel 416 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: like you have to ask questions, Like I know there 417 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: are certain media that their respective outlets don't send them 418 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: to press conference to just sit and listen. They send 419 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: them to press conferences to ask questions. And so sometimes 420 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna ask good questions and sometimes you're gonna ask 421 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: bad questions. And and maybe that's a little bit of 422 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: a peek behind the curtain, but it's just a reality now. 423 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: I don't you know whoever asked that question about the 424 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: MSU student section, maybe in retrospect they say, I you 425 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: know it wasn't my best question, but then to call it, 426 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: be called out and be called it's the worst question 427 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: I've ever heard, And why are you raising your voice 428 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: to me? And all that that felt very performative, It 429 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: felt a little unnecessary. But to your point, maybe that's 430 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: just who he is. 431 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 4: That might just be who he is. But also when 432 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 4: it comes to the I didn't agree with the are 433 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 4: you raising your voice to me? Because now I just 434 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 4: felt like you, now you're being the one that's easily offended, 435 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, those two adults having a 436 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 4: conversation at that point, like that, we're past the question 437 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 4: part of it. Now you're just going back and forth 438 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 4: with this reporter, but like you're raising your voice at him. 439 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 4: And yeah, he might have got a little bit louder, 440 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 4: but you were first. You actually were like started tiging 441 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 4: to him, saying it was the dumbest question ever. Of 442 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 4: course he's going to defend himself because you just tried 443 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 4: to embarrass him in front of everybody. 444 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 1: That's exactly right, you know what I mean. 445 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 4: I understand that, like we're human, of course we're going 446 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 4: to fight back when you try to push down in 447 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 4: front of everyone. But I don't think it was worth 448 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 4: that interaction of being, you know, trying to be confrontational. 449 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: Like embarrass a reporter in front of everybody. 450 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 4: No, I don't think that that's never you know, if 451 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 4: you but if you did have an issue with that, 452 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 4: I'll just say, grab him after, Yeah, him after, and 453 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 4: you know what are we doing here? We do better? Yeah? 454 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 4: Like please ask me better questions. 455 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I think that's see we find 456 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: some comic. 457 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 4: But yes, and that was I do think it wasn't 458 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 4: the necessarily smartest question because it wasn't like it was 459 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 4: a close game it got. 460 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: And maybe he's reacting in part because of that, because 461 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: it was an embarrassing performance from La it was. 462 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 4: But then you know what I think is cool and 463 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 4: I know we really don't have to talk about this, 464 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 4: but I will is that he pulls his own player 465 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 4: after after doing some BS file they said, we're not 466 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 4: going to have that. That's the guy, like, even though 467 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 4: we had to sign sound bites. That's what you want 468 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 4: to play for. Somebody is going to hold you to 469 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 4: a standard, winning, losing, draw regardless, this is our standard. 470 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 4: You felt beneath it. Go in the locker room. 471 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: Okay, I love it. Okay, I would. 472 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 4: Send my kids to play for him, no problem my kids. 473 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 4: My thing is this is like coaches come in all 474 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 4: different shapes and colors, and and they some yell, some 475 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 4: don't you know. Some some make these big old spectacles, 476 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 4: and some barely say a couple of words. But he 477 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 4: has success when he's a Cincinnati, he has success. You know, 478 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 4: he's helped you know. Obviously UCLA is not doing the 479 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 4: greatest this year. That's still they were ranked going into 480 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 4: this game. But and they can't rebound and save their life. 481 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 4: But I would send him to play for him. He 482 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 4: seems like he cares, don't you want to? And that's 483 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 4: the issue. I guess a lot of coaches it doesn't 484 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 4: feel like they care, like and and and that's for 485 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 4: a parent. I'm guds. I have a guy that cares 486 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 4: about each one of his players and wants to be 487 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 4: successful than some guy who you're just a number to 488 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 4: me right now? Can you get a can you get 489 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 4: a hold of me three years downline? Like I can 490 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 4: you call me? Can you text me? Will I respond 491 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 4: five years from now? Like when I'm not in your program? 492 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 4: I think he would well, and. 493 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: He's hardly the only coach has ever been combative with 494 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: them in the media. You have Sean Payton here in town. 495 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: We know that Greg Popovich for years, one of the 496 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: greatest coaches in history in the NBA, very combative with 497 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: the media, and I think there's something too that fans 498 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: certainly tend to appreciate that as long as it is constructive. 499 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: In this case, I don't know. I didn't particularly love 500 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: that interaction, but ultimately, if you look at his history, 501 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: it's kind of what he's done. 502 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 4: Now. 503 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: Before we hit top of the hour, I do want 504 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: to talk to you a little bit about the Broncos 505 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: free agency as or a guy at Cosmiter with the 506 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: Athletic put this list together as he talked about some 507 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: of the impending free agents and went thro John Franklin 508 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: Myers think a lot of us and I know you're 509 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: a big fan. I'm a big fan. But based on 510 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: the way the Broncos have put together their moves, he's 511 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: not coming back. 512 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 4: They would have if if they were going to pay him, 513 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 4: he would have been paid off. 514 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: That's exactly right, So he's going to be gone. They 515 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: went to the inside linebackers and Alex Singleton he has 516 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: him coming back. Is Alex Singleton returning? And Mike Cliss 517 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: with nine News also said he expects Alex Singleton back. 518 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: They are all acknowledging. They don't know about Drake Greenlaw. 519 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: Justine Sernad probably not coming back. Broncos fans are not 520 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: thrilled with the idea of Alex Singleton coming back. Why not, Well, 521 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: he's thirty three years old, he's had some issues in coverage. 522 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 4: Why does that have to be the first thing. 523 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: It's more about an acknowledgement of and you, I think 524 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: you understand it even. 525 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 4: Just saying that because I'm thirty four, Are you making 526 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 4: us in like thirty three so old? 527 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you know, put out the pasture and all 528 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: those things. I know I'm saying. I'm saying that, and 529 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,719 Speaker 1: you you scoff at it. But the reality is the 530 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: NFL life span right the time that you guys usually played, 531 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: it's that one or three years, like majority, like bias. 532 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 1: So if you get beyond that, you're a marvel. And 533 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: so to play into your thirties, especially a position that 534 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: like quarterback, where they have all the protections in the 535 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: world for you, you know, you're playing a position where 536 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: athleticism really does matter right, Your ability to coverage sideline 537 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: to sideline is an inside linebacker kind of matters. And 538 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: Alex Singleton, as much as I like him and he 539 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: has liked within inside the locker room, there are a 540 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: lot of Broncos fans that look at him and see 541 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: more of the limitations than the strings. 542 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 4: Fair enough, I understand, But like we talked about yesterday, 543 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 4: there's some people that are hard to replace, and I'm 544 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 4: not talking about their play. You know, well, Alex Singleton 545 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 4: went through this year and the only positive thing ever 546 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 4: coming from a from a drug test in the player's eyes, 547 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 4: was that he found out he had cancer. 548 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: And he played that game. 549 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 4: And that's crazy, and think about what that did for 550 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 4: the team, And I just think that, like, as motivational 551 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 4: as that was and the type of player he is, 552 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 4: you know, it's it's going to be hard to replace 553 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 4: him in that locker room. You know, he's a he's 554 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 4: a he's a figure in that locker room. So you know, 555 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 4: obviously you can always go find another player, finds my 556 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 4: younger and do all that, but sometimes you have to 557 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 4: fold and just take the guy because of what he 558 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 4: does for your team, for your locker room, because there 559 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 4: will be dark days. Everyone has and you know everyone 560 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 4: has it in the league, and there will be dark days. 561 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 4: There will be times where the teams are on a 562 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 4: down and you need guys like that who are going 563 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 4: to lift everyone's spirits and remind them that we are 564 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 4: so lucky to be here, to be doing what we love. 565 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 4: And you just need those type of guys. And that's 566 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 4: an Alex Singleton type guy like you want. He's bigger 567 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 4: than just his play. 568 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that too. I had no idea, 569 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: and I was talking to Grant about it before the show. 570 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: I had no idea direction you go, because on one hand, 571 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: everybody wants to find the next Carson' Swessenger, right, a 572 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: rookie who wait, he won Rookie of the Year. But 573 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: more than anything, he has shown his ability to play 574 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: almost immediately. And you've got that guy in a rookie 575 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: contract now for several years before you have to think 576 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: about paying him. This is a great draft class for 577 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: off the ball inside linebackers right that. Like, I can 578 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: see the Broncos drafting one either way, because whether you 579 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: keep Drake Greenlaw or you move on, Justice Sertani's a 580 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: free agent. I like the idea of bringing back Alex 581 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: Singleton because and forgive me for this because it sounds cliche, 582 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: but VJ calling him a coach on the field that 583 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: matters matter and again it tends to be overused. But 584 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: in this case, because you said what he means to 585 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: the locker room, it also means what VJ can do 586 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: as far as play calling as a defensive coordinator too. 587 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a trust. Yes, you know he trusts Alex 588 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 4: Singleton and in any time it could be no huddle. 589 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 4: Oh I can't get the call in. I'm sure Alex 590 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 4: will get us right. And you just can't replace guys 591 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 4: like that, and regardless of age, or you should not 592 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 4: replace guys like that. Not granted, I'm not saying go 593 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 4: draft somebody. And now you have the opportunity to develop them, 594 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 4: maybe not play. They don't have to play their first year. 595 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 4: They're able to go play year two, year three, year four, 596 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 4: Like you can get three years out of them instead 597 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 4: of four. But like, no matter what, though, that's a 598 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 4: better option than what you're in now, you know what 599 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 4: I mean, You have no development in sight, Drew Saners 600 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 4: is you know we still haven't been able to see 601 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 4: what he can do because he's you know, your best 602 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 4: ability is availability, and so you also eventually have to 603 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 4: move on from guys that can't get on the field. 604 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 4: So I think the best things for the Broncos to 605 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 4: do what to be one, bring Alex Singleton back, then 606 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 4: draft somebody it doesn't have to be a first round pick, 607 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 4: and then set round pick. If this draft is as 608 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 4: loaded as they try to say with off the ball 609 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 4: line backers, it would be perfect if you even got 610 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 4: somebody in the second, third, or fourth round instead of 611 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 4: obviously you can use it first round pick on something 612 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 4: way more distressing. 613 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, something only text line asked, is Drew Sanders ever 614 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: going to play? 615 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 4: I don't. 616 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: I really don't know. I mean, this was supposed to 617 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: be a big year for him. He was during the 618 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: course of ot AS and I know it's ot AS whatever, 619 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying it was OTAs. Drake Greenlaw was unavailable, 620 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: so he was the guy that they were slatting in. 621 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: And again you're not this is not high level stuff. 622 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that the opportunity was paid for him 623 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: to have a bigger role this year. That's what I'm 624 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: trying to say. It doesn't but he's going to enter 625 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: camp even. 626 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 4: What we do, and and and no matter what Drake 627 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 4: Blue Greenlaw was going to play. He is getting paid 628 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 4: what eleven a year? Yeah, he was, He's gonna he's 629 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 4: going to play. 630 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: But he only played eight games. 631 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 4: The issue, so when he's not playing, it's supposed to 632 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 4: be Drew Sanders. 633 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. 634 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 4: So that's where it's like, all right, was that he 635 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 4: just finished his thirty year. 636 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going into his final. 637 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 4: Year and has played how many games? 638 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: A handful maybe and even a part time. 639 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 4: Already have a team believing you that long is rare, 640 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 4: especially if you haven't played. So they must really see 641 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 4: something in him. They keep him around. So maybe they're 642 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 4: trying him or shot. But even if they do, they're 643 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 4: going to put somebody behind him because of his injury history. 644 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we can finish up the rest of this article. 645 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it just kind of went through some of 646 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: the other players, but I thought the biggest one there 647 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: was Alex Singleton. And to see some of the reaction 648 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: to Mike Cliss's reporting as well as kind of what 649 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: Nick put out here of Broncos Fish is not being 650 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: on board with it makes very little sense to me 651 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: other than people that want maybe a little more athleticism 652 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: from that position. 653 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 4: But you could do that. 654 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: You and maybe I'll say one more thing, maybe they 655 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: see the bringing back Alex Singleton as a we're not 656 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: going to go get Devin Lloyd. Well, you might not 657 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: have been able to afford or be available to get 658 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd anyways. I mean, he's the top inside linebacker 659 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: this available. Jacksonville may not let him go, so it's 660 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: not even to say that he's going to be an 661 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: option for you. Anyways. What you do you bring back 662 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: Alex Singleton, you draft and develop, maybe even you spend 663 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: pick thirty on an inside linebacker off the ball linebacker. 664 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 4: This is a very good class for it man, amazing 665 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 4: glass and it's one of the it's actually probably one 666 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 4: of the first good off ball linebackers class that I 667 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 4: can remember. It's been it's really been so long since 668 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 4: there's been multiple guys that can go in I think 669 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 4: really play right away. But once again, you have to 670 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 4: make a decision if you're Broncos if you were to 671 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 4: go try to go get a Devin Lloyd type player 672 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 4: that just takes money away from a different position, because 673 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 4: that's going to be twenty a year right there. So 674 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 4: that means you have to go all in and not 675 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 4: just a linebacker. You have to go all in on 676 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 4: whin the super Bowl and signing Devin Lloyd would prove 677 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 4: that is exactly what your plan is.