1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: Blue Penrods with you till ten o'clock. Thanks for tuning 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: in on a Thursday. Wow, what a week we got 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: going on. So many stories in the news, but the 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: most important one to all of us is the price 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: of gas. And now it looks like gas prices are 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: going to be impacted because of an early closure of 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: a major refinery here in California. 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 3: Valero shutting down it's Benicia refinery in the North Bay Area, 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 3: a move that will eliminate about one hundred and forty 11 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 3: five thousand barrels per day. The move that came four 12 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 3: months earlier than planned, is expected to send fuel prices, yes, 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 3: skyrocketing in the. 14 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not good for four months early. So we 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 2: did know that Valero was planning on closing a refinery, 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: and that's a boo because we have to refine oil 17 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: into gasoline here in California in order to put it 18 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: in the car. But they're ahead of schedule, which is amazing. 19 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: Nothing in California is ever ahead of schedule except the 20 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 2: ability of this refinery to close at a schedule, which 21 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 2: is probably good for them, but this is a problem 22 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: This is a real problem because gas prices affect everything. 23 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: I mean, they are for me, the single best barometer 24 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: or daily reminder of whether things are good or things 25 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: are bad. Think about it, right, Think about it. There 26 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: is no other consumable that is in your face every 27 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 2: day with a fluctuating price. You drive by an Albertson's 28 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: or a Ralph's, or a Vonn's or State of Brothers anything. 29 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: They don't have a sign way out on the sidewalk 30 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: that says milk three nineteen, eggs four ninety nine a 31 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: dozen New York strips, teak nine ninety nine a pounds, 32 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: they don't like. Nobody has that dry cleaner doesn't have 33 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: that sign. You don't drive by at TJ Max and 34 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: they say women's belts nineteen ninety nine. But you drive 35 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: by every single gas station and they have a sign 36 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: way out on the sidewalk lit up so you can 37 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: see it day or night of the price of gasoline. 38 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: And when you see it at five thirty nine a gallon, 39 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: and then the next week it's five eighty nine a gallon, 40 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: you think, Wow, things not so good. But if you 41 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: see it for seventy nine a gallon, you start thinking 42 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: all right, maybe things are getting better whoever's in charge. 43 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: So that is a it's a real temperature check for 44 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: the mood of the people of Los Angeles. And I 45 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: don't see how the cost of refining the oil into 46 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 2: gasoline going up is not going to have a upward pressure. 47 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: Impact forty five thousand barrels per day. The move the 48 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: four months earlier than planned is expected to send fuel prices, 49 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 3: yes skyrocketing in the Golden State, as well as constraining 50 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: California's refining capacity. Californians already play the second highest gas 51 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: price in the nation, behind only Hawaii. 52 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's the highest because everybody knows everything's more 53 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: expensive INAII in Hawaii. I don't know. I don't think 54 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: they have any refineries in Hawaii. But I mean it's 55 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: not that big of an island. So how much driving 56 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: do you really do? So effectively the most expensive gas, 57 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 2: and we're the biggest state with the best places to 58 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: drive to. I mean, is there a more picturesque place? 59 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: That's ironic. We have the most expensive fuel to drive 60 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: and the most drivable state. 61 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: According to Triple A, the average price last month was 62 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 3: four dollars and twenty three cents per gallon. 63 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: Where's that for twenty three it was four. 64 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: Dollars and twenty three cents per gallon. Refineries are fleeing 65 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: the state as regular drive operating costs up to as 66 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 3: much as thirty seven percent higher than the national average. 67 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: All right, so this is a real problem, and this 68 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: will be an ongoing problem until we course correct on refineries. 69 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: So here here's the way this works. People ask me 70 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: all the time, why do we always seem to have 71 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 2: these problems with the price of fuel, And it's it's 72 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: basically a geographic problem. Like the rest of the rest 73 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: of the United States, or the United States east of 74 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: the Rocky Mountains, they're all interconnected. If there's some problem 75 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: in Kansas City, they pipe up some oil from Texas. 76 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: If there's some problem in Michigan, they they send oil 77 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: down from Alaska. Like it's all well interconnected, East Coast, 78 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: all interconnected. They never have shortages no matter what's happening. 79 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: There could be two refineries go down in New Jersey 80 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: at the same time and people won't miss a beat. 81 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: You won't see a tick increase in the price of 82 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: gas at the pump. Like it's a system to make 83 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: sure we can all go to work because you have 84 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: to put fuel in your car to go to work. 85 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: We don't have that here in California. Nobody ever thought 86 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 2: it through. There's no real big pipeline. So when we 87 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: don't have the ability to refine oil. We can get oil, 88 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 2: that's easy. Got to make it into gasoline. That's how 89 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 2: that works. And when we can't do that because the 90 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: refinery goes down or in this case, a refinery decides, 91 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: you know what, it's thirty seven percent more expensive to 92 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 2: turn oil into gasoline in California. Let somebody else do what. 93 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: I'm out of here. Everybody's moving to Franklin, Tennessee. Anyway, 94 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: I'll go refine in Franklin, Tennessee. Like whatever the whether 95 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: it's you know, a choice by the refinery or just 96 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: the refinery wants to say. In California and something broke, 97 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: and these refineries seem to break a lot. I don't 98 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: know what's going on in there. They're like shake machines 99 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: at a McDonald's. Anyway, if the runnery goes down, we 100 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 2: were stuck. We have nothing. We have to bring in 101 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: gasoline on a tanker truck on the ten Freeway from 102 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: Arizona it's like the only way. There just is no 103 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 2: other way. Or we can have it come by freight 104 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: in the Pacific Ocean from Central or South America and 105 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: land in the Port of Long Beach, but that takes time. 106 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: But you have to bring in the gasoline that's at 107 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: the pump. You can't take the oil and make it 108 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: into gasoline without the refinery. And we've never had a 109 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 2: solution for not just California, but the West Coast, and 110 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: there has not been an effort to pursue a solution, 111 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: even though we're constantly faced with this. So now we 112 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: have to come up with a solution for refining gasoline 113 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 2: so that we're not impacted by this price. And I 114 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 2: actually think this needs to happen, and I'm glad it's 115 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: happening now. We are, let me see here, two hundred 116 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: and seventy four days until the gubernatorial election, the midterm 117 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: election as well. I mean, we're getting within that two 118 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: hundred daymark, and that's the that's that's the real race. 119 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: Two hundred days is not a lot of time in politics, 120 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: and it does not look like there's a huge front 121 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: runner to be the governor, and it looks like nobody 122 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: wants to be mayor of Los Angeles, and I will 123 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: see how the whole congressional thing shakes down. But the 124 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: reality is this will be a political issue. If it's 125 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: so that these this refinery closure four months early is 126 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: going to cause prices to skyrocket, then that's gonna be 127 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: the campaign issue. It's not gonna be anything else. People 128 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: are not going to care about boys in the girls' 129 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: locker room or boys in the girls swim meet nearly 130 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: as much. If gas is seven dollars a gallon and 131 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: they're paying three nineteen in Denver, Colorado, and that's the 132 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: way the numbers are shaping up, So I actually welcome it. 133 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: I think we need to have this fight. We used 134 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: to pay seven dollars a gallon, so we can. It 135 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: just depends on how long we want to endure it. 136 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: So it's time to have this fight. It's time to 137 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: get serious. You need to put gas in the car. 138 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: They've not invented a gas list car. The electric car 139 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: is fun, but people still need to go to the 140 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: gas station, and we need to have gas. It's a 141 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: sign of a first world nation, and we need to 142 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: start behaving like a first world nation if we want 143 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: to be a first world nation. 144 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 145 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: I'm not sure it was the decision. We knew that 146 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: the refinery was closing, but a major refinery in northern 147 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: California will be closing four months early, and that's expected 148 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: to cause gasoline prices to skyrocket. We deal with this 149 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 2: all the time. 150 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 4: Whatever the hell your name is. I'm in Garden Grove 151 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 4: and I guess here's three sixty nine for Harvard. 152 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 2: See your show. 153 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 5: You're awesome. 154 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: I appreciate the call. Three sixty nine and Garden Grove 155 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: is pretty good. I saw it Saturday at I think 156 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: it was Harbor and Brookhurst in Orange County, and it 157 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: was Yeah, it was like in the high threes. I 158 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 2: thought that's pretty good. But I've seen it by Lax 159 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: in the close to six. I know it's near the airport. 160 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 2: But nevertheless, it's just so frustrating to me because it's 161 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: such an easy solution. It really is. It's it has 162 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: nothing to do with the physical refining of gasoline. It 163 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: has to do with a mindset that we need energy 164 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: and for some reason we are resist as a state, 165 00:09:55,720 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: philosophically resistant to energy. It blows my mind. I've worked 166 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: for three members of Congress that represent California, and each 167 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: member of Congress, I remember there was some energy crisis. 168 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: I remember in two thousand and two thousand and one 169 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 2: there were some having brownouts and Governor Gray Davis and 170 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 2: there was all kinds of problems. I'm like, make more power, 171 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: we have the recipe. And then we had all kinds 172 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 2: of energy problems in like twenty and eleven. In twenty twelve, 173 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 2: I think we changed daylight saving time in one of 174 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: the energy bills that was passed, and we were constantly battling, Oh, 175 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: the shortage, the refineries down. Now, the gas prices of spiked. 176 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: Why do we allow this to happen? It's so unnecessary. 177 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 5: You're back. 178 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 2: Where have you been, man, Jesus, Mary and Joseph. 179 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 5: There were other states with Morgan refineries and their gass 180 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 5: is a lot cheaper. 181 00:10:58,880 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: We're trapped. 182 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 5: Most of the cars you see on the street are 183 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 5: relatively are new cars. 184 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 2: Well that's not true. See you think that, but that's 185 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: not true, and that's part of the problem. All the 186 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 2: cars on you that you see on the street are 187 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: indeed cars, and some of them were recently assembled. But 188 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: this very little that's new about the car, and there 189 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: in lines the problem. I remember when the second member 190 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: of Congress that I worked for and we were dealing 191 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 2: with an energy crisis, and he came up with an idea, 192 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: and I thought it was a good one. It did 193 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: not get traction, but it is a good idea, and 194 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: this is the way we need to start thinking. He said, 195 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 2: here's an idea. All American made cars, let's say pick 196 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 2: a day, starting twenty thirty five or twenty thirty whatever 197 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: going forward, have to be able to accept two sources 198 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 2: of fuel. Must federal standard have to be to accept 199 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: two sources of fuel. And we'll let the industry decide 200 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: on the source of fuel. Like the government will not 201 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: tell you the car has to be gas and electric. 202 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 2: It just has to be able to run on two 203 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: sources of fuel completely. Now you can buy yourself in 204 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: an electric car, but that all the cars that are 205 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: manufactured under this guideline has to receive two sources of fuel. 206 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: And this way the industry, the automotive industry, would do 207 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: the research and compete. Because there's a lot of things 208 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: that move a car, we don't subsidize them, so they're 209 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: not real like ethanol was a thing right e eighty five, 210 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: But there are so fuel, so few stations to pump 211 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: ethanol that what's the use of having a car that 212 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: accepts ethanol. So the like the gas have to adapt. 213 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 2: So how do you make this huge, huge shift, I 214 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: mean a huge paradigm shift. Instead of gas stations, they 215 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: should be energy stations, and they should have on hand 216 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: gasoline but also electricity, but also ethanol, but also buttanol 217 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: and natural gas and all kinds of things. There's lots 218 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: of fuels out there, and if you talk to some 219 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 2: of these farmers, they will tell you we have a 220 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: fuel that we could run cars on. The problem is 221 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 2: we have to bring it to the market. We need 222 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 2: the car, the automobile manufacturer to accept it, need a 223 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: hole on the side of the car, and we need distribution. 224 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: You got to be able to store this stuff in 225 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: a tank underneath the gas station. So if government's going 226 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 2: to get involved, that's what governments should do is incentivize 227 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:03,359 Speaker 2: the industry to provide energy, not gas, and incentivize the automobile. 228 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 2: You can even require the automobile manufacturers to make vehicles 229 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: that accept at least two sources of energy. So it's 230 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: a working idea, and it's one that still on Capitol Hill. 231 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: They're still working with it because they sell more cars 232 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: in California than anywhere else and they don't want people 233 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: with an empty gas tank. So, believe it or not, 234 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: the automobile manufacturers are as concerned about this as are 235 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: you when these prices do begin to rise. Hey, speaking 236 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: of cars, the list of the number one car came 237 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: out or all the cars, it's always fun. Last year 238 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: the number one car sold in the United States by brand, 239 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: Toyota tops the list, followed by Ford, then Chevy. They're 240 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: always neck and neck Ford and Chevy, always competing with 241 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: each other. In fourth place is Honda and then Hyundai 242 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: in the number five position. Very impressed with that. So 243 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: the reason that Toyota is at the top of the list, 244 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: the minivan is no longer the mom van. The number 245 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: one purchaser of minivans is now Guys. 246 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: Last year, minivan sales rose twenty one percent in the 247 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: US to more than three hundred and ninety three thousand 248 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 3: units sold, and while overall US sales were up only 249 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 3: two percent, and not only that. According to Edmans, minivans 250 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 3: currently hold a two point four market share doesn't sound much, 251 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 3: but it is the highest level since twenty nineteen. So 252 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 3: and let's say one fact of moving minivan sales is 253 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 3: changing family demographic. 254 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 2: Changing family demographics. Okay, that sounds fancy. What does that mean. 255 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 3: Older millennials and younger Gen X families. Well, they're growing 256 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 3: and they need space for kids, the gear, the groceries, 257 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: and the minivan is seeing popularity among one particular demographic, 258 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 3: men around forty years old. 259 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: Forty year old guys driving minivans, embracing the minivan. I 260 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: knew it would happen. I have been driving a Toyota 261 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: Sienna minivan for over sixteen years, different ones, because they 262 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: last forever. There's really no reason to get rid of it. 263 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: And I swear by it. And this is not a 264 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: paid endorsement by Toyota, although you can call kfi. I 265 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: think there are just great that you think that there's 266 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: a sigma. Oh, look at Lou driving the mom van. 267 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 2: It isn't a van. I don't know why they call 268 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: it a minivan. It's a full size van and under 269 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: the hood it's a truck. And you throw all the 270 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: crap in the back, all the football stuff, the lacrosse stick, 271 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: you go to Costco. It's all back there and it 272 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: drives like a dream, and it's got all the power 273 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: you need and you feel like you're driving a truck. 274 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: So I started this trend and now everyone's doing it. 275 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 276 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 2: Lou Penrose with you till ten o'clock. Hey, Lou, justin Westavina. 277 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: You know, back in the days went Forward was creating 278 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: his brands. Everything was made to run on alcohol. Yeah, 279 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: and technology has improved. Alcohol works, gasoline works too. I 280 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:22,479 Speaker 2: just cannot wrap my head around the resistance to energy. 281 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 2: Like it's not just cars, right, I get it. You 282 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 2: got a bunch of environmentalists that don't want you in 283 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: the car, so they're going to lobby Sacramento and be 284 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 2: all green and convince Sacramento to give a two thousand 285 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 2: dollars rebate for you to buy a hybrid vehicle, which 286 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 2: you don't need. That was a complete waste of your 287 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: taxpayer dollars. There were lists like waiting lists to buy 288 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 2: a Toyota Prius while the state of California was issuing rebates. 289 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 2: You don't need to incentivize a product that people are 290 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: waiting online to buy. But it was a way that 291 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: environmentalists felt really effective. And that's great, and the sky 292 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: is cleaner and everything's great. But at the end of 293 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 2: the day, we have to get to work, like we 294 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 2: have to do things. So it's not just gasoline, it's 295 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 2: all forms of energy, like you know the flex alerts 296 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: that we used to have. Oh, you know, there's gonna 297 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 2: be it's gonna get hot. People are gonna put on 298 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: the air conditioner. So those of you that can endure 299 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: the heat, go and adjust your thermostat. Like why why 300 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: do we behave like that? Why don't we just make 301 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: more power? Why can't we all be cool? Why do 302 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 2: we have to sweat? We live in the desert, Like 303 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: what's this resistance to power? You know, we want to 304 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 2: send out a warning now cooling centers at the senior center. 305 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 2: Why why can't we just make more power and and 306 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 2: and constantly make it, like make too much power? Power 307 00:18:55,600 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: is really important, and it's it's it's a weird thing 308 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: because we'll never solve the problem until we get past 309 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 2: the philosophy of trying to use as little power as possible. Conserve. 310 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 2: You got to concern why do we have to conserve 311 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: like we should throw on the ac and open up 312 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 2: the front door if we wanted to, Like, what's the difference. 313 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 2: It's our money. We use it or not use it, 314 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 2: but there should be nobody running out of it. There. 315 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 2: We have to get off this conserve power mentality and 316 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 2: flood the marketplace with power mentality, because at the end 317 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 2: of the day, it takes power to do things. You 318 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: can't cure cancer if you don't turn the lights on 319 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 2: in the laboratory. 320 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 6: Hey, my friend, the cheapest you can get it is 321 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 6: four twenty a gallon per regular, So it's gonna go up. 322 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 6: And I want to congratulate all you people or I 323 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 6: mean idiots that voted for Gavin news Well. 324 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 2: Part of the part of it is that. But it's 325 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: it's like it's it's easy to bebone leadership, but it 326 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 2: is accurate to say that leadership in the state was 327 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: overwhelmingly elected. So this is the way I work in politics, 328 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: instead of yelling at Gavin Newsom and the Democrats supermajority 329 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: that make it this way because they are representing the 330 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 2: people that put them in office. All right, that's the 331 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 2: lazy man's way of being a member of society. What 332 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 2: you do is the onus. It's it's on us right 333 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 2: those that disagree with the way Newsom is running the state. 334 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: That then we've got to sing the song and convince 335 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 2: our fellow Californians that, hey, we don't need to save 336 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: the earth, we don't need to go green, we don't 337 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 2: need to do any of these things. The environment is fine. 338 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: We're and by the way, people are a part of 339 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,719 Speaker 2: the environment, like we live here too. I get it 340 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 2: that the fringe toad lizard is here, but we're here too, 341 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: and the fringe toad lizard has fewer needs than we do. 342 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: We need roads and bridges, we need schools and children's hospitals, 343 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 2: and those take power, and we have a right to 344 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: take the things we need because the fringe toad lizard 345 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,239 Speaker 2: isn't asking us what we need. So we need to 346 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 2: kind of exert our dominance in the food chain. 347 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 4: So if diesel prices also rise, does that mean that 348 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 4: we have to pay more at the grocery store. 349 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 2: Yes, everything you have was brought to you by a truck. 350 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 2: Everything you have, look around you, everything was brought by 351 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: a truck. I don't know where you are. If you're 352 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 2: in a car driving, then guess what. The stoplight was 353 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: brought there by a truck. The wire that's hanging across 354 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: the roadway was brought there by a truck. The pole 355 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 2: was brought there by a truck. Right if you're in 356 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 2: your house, the kitchen table was brought by a truck. 357 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 2: Everything in your house was brought by a truck. The 358 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 2: car driveway was brought by a truck, and everything in 359 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 2: the grocery store loom. 360 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 4: The reason politicians let oil refineries close, they let the 361 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 4: price of gas go up because they don't pay for 362 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 4: their gas the taxpayers do. They get gas cards us. 363 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 4: The taxpayers don't. So we're the one getting the shaft. 364 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, we do get the shaft. And it's constant, like 365 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 2: it's a little constant merry go round where we're oh, 366 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 2: it's a flex alert too much, it's too hot out, 367 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 2: and then we you know, we all need to conserve 368 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: and all right. Then then oh, oh, refinery shut down 369 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: and that's the latest thing. Now reine. This time the 370 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 2: refinery isn't broken. It's shutting down for good, and there's 371 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 2: no plan to make oil into gasoline. So we're just 372 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 2: waiting to see what the impact will be at the 373 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 2: price of the pump and it's absolusary. It's just bad planning. 374 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: So I I and I I trust me. I've argued 375 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 2: this argument in California, and it's for naught because, as 376 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: the caller said, well, you know, thank the people you elected. Well, 377 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 2: then we've got to try a different tactic. And I 378 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: suggest that tactic is talking and telling our fellow Californians. Hey, 379 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: before you cast that ballot, make sure that the guy 380 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 2: you're voting for wants more energy, not less. Make sure 381 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 2: the guy you're voting for doesn't want you to conserve. 382 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 2: He wants you to produce, right instead of contracting expand 383 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 2: we'll provide you the energy, will make sure it's cheap 384 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 2: and affordable. You go take the energy and put it 385 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 2: to work with your ingenuity and your work ethic and 386 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: make something big and make a whole lot of money. 387 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 2: Like that's the attitude we need by our leaders. And 388 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 2: that isn't necessarily a Republican thing. Democrats used to have 389 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 2: a pro growth like mindset. I mean they were always progressive, 390 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: but they were not contracting. They wanted people to earn 391 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 2: and produce. 392 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 5: Hey, Lou, I've been driving Honda natural gas vehicles for 393 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 5: nearly twenty years and just to make everybody jealous of 394 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 5: pay only two dollars a gallon for gas and it's 395 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 5: a Honda engine, so I get thirty five miles to 396 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 5: the gallon. 397 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, those Hondas are good. There aren't any more natural 398 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 2: gas Hondas sold in California because Honda needs a place 399 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: to put natural gas in your car, and the state 400 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,959 Speaker 2: of California said, sure, we'll, we'll build those, and that 401 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 2: never happened, so California Wedig. Yeah, it's it's unnecessarily contracting. Push. 402 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: What do you drive? 403 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 4: Now? 404 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 2: What's your I know you have it's a number of cars. 405 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: Number of cars. Uh, it's a Prius, Okay, so you 406 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 2: have a Prius. Yeah. 407 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 7: And I can't ever see myself going back to I 408 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 7: mean unless I hit the lotto, going back to like 409 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 7: a full combustible engine, because it's just like it's just awesome, 410 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 7: Like you're just sitting there in traffic and engine shuts 411 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 7: off and you get like unbelievable miles per gallon exactly. 412 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 2: I mean, it just is it? 413 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 6: Is it? 414 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 2: The miles per gallon thing? Is that? I mean? Is 415 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 2: that the overall reason? Or is it because it's it's 416 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 2: not the most comfortable car. I have a Prius as well. Yeah, 417 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 2: and it's not the most comfortable ride. 418 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 7: Well, okay, I'll admit the I had an nine and 419 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 7: the one I got into an accident with that one, 420 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 7: it was a little rough. But this one, I mean, 421 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 7: they have the different driving modes. And it's when you're 422 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 7: like just driving around, like let's say you just go 423 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 7: into a local you know, spot to get you know, 424 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 7: some liquor store, you know, fast food, whatever, it's you 425 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 7: feel like you're gliding. Like even my parents when they 426 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 7: get in the car, it's like, dude, it's like you're 427 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 7: floating on the street. It's pretty cool. 428 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a it's a it's a good 429 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 2: around the way car. Like it's a good car to 430 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: just I mean, I use it just really around the way. 431 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 2: But if I'm headed up to Big Bear, I'm not 432 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 2: taking the Prius. And if if I'm going for a ride, 433 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 2: like if I'm going out the Palm Spring, so i 434 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 2: gotta go to Arizona. You know, it's not an over 435 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 2: the road kind of car. It's a good it's kind 436 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 2: of it's I feel like it's a golf car for 437 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 2: the most it gets really good gasoline. 438 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 7: And especially when I was doing Uber, I mean that 439 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 7: was like, that was just boss, because do you. 440 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: Know that your Prius and my Prius are hot commodities. 441 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 6: Oh. 442 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 2: I was at a Toyota dealership in in uh in 443 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 2: Huntings and Beach and where I bought the Prius and 444 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 2: the guy told me, you know, we'll buy those from you. 445 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 2: I'm like really, He's like, hey, you probably could get 446 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: more money than you think because Uber drivers want them 447 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 2: so badly because they're the the ultimate uber and lyft car. 448 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 2: Because if you're an uber driver, what's your thing? Your 449 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 2: thing is fuel cost? Right, there's no better car on 450 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 2: the road. 451 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 7: For for dollar for dollars and yeah, and there's someone 452 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 7: and there's someone who did it for a close to 453 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 7: nine years. When you're waiting for someone, the gas it'll 454 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 7: burn pretty quick. But if you're in a Prius, the 455 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 7: engines off, so you're just waiting in yours is chilling. 456 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 7: You know, you're not stressed, right, Yep? 457 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 2: It goes into golf cart mode. It's all right. The 458 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 2: commercial for the Toyta Prius has come to a conclusion. 459 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 460 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: So the poll was done, and America does have a 461 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 2: favorite grocery store. And I think you're going to be 462 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: surprised at the name that came up at the top 463 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 2: of the list. We'll tell you what that is and 464 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 2: why that's all coming up following the news at eight o'clock. 465 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 2: It's funny you should say that everything comes by truck. 466 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: I'm a truck driver. I just got one question. Why 467 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 2: did it make it so hard for. 468 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: Us delivered to them to deliver? 469 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 6: They get in our way, they cut us off, They 470 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 6: have no no, no compassion at all. 471 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,719 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody get out of his way. Hey, I'm all 472 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 2: for alternative fuels, but unfortunately, in California, we just do 473 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: not have the infrastructure for electricity. It's funny you should 474 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 2: say that it's not true. It's not true. We have 475 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 2: the infrastructure, we can build the infrastructure. We have the 476 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: capacity to build the infrastructure. Have you ever heard of 477 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: big Creek Southern California? Edison's Big Creek Facility. It's like 478 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 2: north of Fresno. Mister Ronner, have you heard a big creek? 479 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 2: I have none. Okay, look it up. I'll tell the 480 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 2: story while you're looking it up. And then you'll be amazed, 481 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: Like Big Creek is a hydro electric power generating station 482 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: up in the Sierra Nevada Mountains. That it's a it's 483 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 2: like literally a man made wonder of the world. And 484 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: it was built in nineteen eleven. Nineteen eleven. You should 485 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 2: see this thing. You can't go see it. You got 486 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 2: to be like a dignitary to go. I was there 487 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 2: as staffer to a member of Congress to go look 488 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 2: at it. And it's astounding. You can't believe that such 489 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 2: a thing could be built, and they did it, and 490 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 2: it powered southern California. Nineteen eleven, they built this thing. 491 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 2: Laura Ingles from Little House on the Prairie, all right, 492 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,479 Speaker 2: you're obsessed with Little House on the Prairie. She was 493 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 2: married in eighteen eighty five, So this is twenty five 494 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: years from when Laura with the fishing rod was fishing 495 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 2: in Plumb Creek in Walnut Grove. And twenty five years 496 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 2: later they built this unbelievable hydroelectric power plant in the 497 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: middle of the mountains, like without cranes and trucks and 498 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: cell phones, and it powered southern California. So this idea 499 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 2: that we don't have the infrastructure we do have infrastructure, 500 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 2: We have space to build infrastructure. We can develop anything 501 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 2: we want. We just have to have the will to 502 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: do it. And I don't know, I don't understand the 503 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 2: resistance to it. It powers any easy one. We know 504 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: the recipe for almost every power source. There's pluses and minuses, 505 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: pros and cons to everything. But even the cons are better. Right. 506 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: The filters that they use to filter out the toxics 507 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 2: that come off of burning coal are far better than 508 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 2: they were. And we have more coal in the ground 509 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 2: than the Saudis have petroleum in the ground, So we 510 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 2: could do that if we get over ourselves. Natural gas 511 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 2: is everywhere. Petroleum is still a good thing. I mean, 512 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 2: we've already pretty much wired up the streets to have 513 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 2: gas stations, and everybody's got a hole in the side 514 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: of the car that takes gasoline. So that's a pretty 515 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 2: easy problem to solve. That'll last us another one hundred 516 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 2: years while we come up with another solution. But there's 517 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: all kinds of other technologies all over the place, and 518 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 2: we can develop them right here in California and create 519 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: jobs doing it and be able to live a quality 520 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: life and not have to have a flex alert and 521 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 2: turn off the ac when it gets eighty degrees and 522 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: sweat in your own house like a third world hell 523 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: hole person. I just I don't understand the resistance. I 524 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 2: really don't. But uh yeah, I mean Big Creek is 525 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 2: a phenom. It really is just the most amazing thing 526 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 2: I've ever seen. You gotta go see it. I'm going 527 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 2: to schedule a trip for you, Ronnor. You'll love it 528 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 2: up there. We can make a field trip out of it. 529 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: I mean, and they have like I mean, they have 530 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 2: you know, executive like it's they have hotels up there. 531 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 2: Really were the people at Southern California Edison. Yeah, because 532 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: back in the day, the people that own Southern California 533 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 2: Edison or were in charge of it, wanted to make 534 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 2: sure that things were going well. So they have like 535 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 2: the I mean, they have places for the workers to live, 536 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 2: and they have places for the executives to live, and 537 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: those are still there so when they have field trips. 538 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 2: Next time you talk to somebody from Southern California Edison, 539 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 2: mention it, uh and they'll they'll kind of pause, like 540 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 2: next time there's a Southern California Edison story, Like after 541 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 2: you're done getting the quote and everything, just kind of 542 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 2: mention it. When's the next when's the your next meet 543 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 2: and greet up at Big Creek and the lag I 544 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: got Valentine's plans now, Yeah, like like, hey, how do 545 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: you know about that? Yeah, because it's a big secret 546 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 2: in the see world. But it's a but it's online. 547 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 2: I mean you can look it up. And if you 548 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: look at those struct they're all black and white because 549 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 2: it was developed when there wasn't color film. And it's 550 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 2: astounding and it just gives you a sense of the 551 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 2: level of engineering that can be done. Yeah, it's got 552 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 2: an enormous Wikipedia entry for sure. Right, and that's just 553 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: one phase of it. They're like many, many phases of 554 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 2: pumping water back up the mountain so that it comes 555 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 2: down and spins the turbine again. And I'm like, wow, man, 556 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 2: these people, these engineers were operating on a way higher 557 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 2: level than I think we're operating today. So we could 558 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 2: do it. So the idea that we don't have the 559 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 2: infrastructure is untrue. We can do whatever we want. Just 560 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: got to do it. Lou Penrose on KFI AM six 561 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 2: forty Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio 562 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: I KFI AM six on demand