1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: This is the Mark Madden Show. You still love Her? 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Had to kill her? Eight three three four one two 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: w XDX is the number to call later, and I'd 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: broke myself with the habit of giving out the number 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: in the first hour, but I've recently well it's because 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm old and my brain is not functioning like i'd 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: like it to. This hour of the show brought to 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: us by our good friends at Shnderovid, Shandorovitch and Fishman. 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: They got your back, not your wallet that I did remember, 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: I should say in this hour. I'm joined now by 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Tommy Radio. Tom Let's let's go down cliche avenue your 12 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: take on that Sports Illustrated list top plays in Super 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: Bowl history. 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: It is absurd that James Harrison's interception return is not 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 2: the number one play. I'm trying to think while I'm 16 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: sitting here, who could I throw up there, you know, 17 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: as Devil's advocate, as the runner up? 18 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: Who could dethrone it? Possibly? 19 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: And I can't think of one. David Tyree would have 20 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: been the one I went to. But as you said, 21 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: that's mostly luck that he caught that on his helmet. 22 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: And I t trying to not let you know local prejudice, 23 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: absolutely ripping, you know, local favor. But I mean James 24 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: Harrison took an Arizona touchdown at one end and made 25 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: it a Pittsburgh touchdown in the other end as the 26 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: half expired, rumbling one hundred yards, which you know, Harrison 27 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: is a heck of an athlete. He's not cut out 28 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: to rumble one hundred yards with the ball, you know, 29 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 1: breaking tackles, running over people at the end. I can't 30 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: come up with anything more dramatic or more more impactful 31 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: on the result. 32 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: A fourteen point swing is massive. It was going to 33 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: be fourteen to ten Arizona at halftime. It's seventeen to 34 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: seven Steelers now, all of a sudden. I mean, it 35 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: was just, without a doubt, the number one play. And 36 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: as you've heard, you know, the stories since that play happened, 37 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: you know, James Harrison recounting it and players on Arizona 38 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: recounting it. There was so much skill involved with that too. 39 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: With Harrison recognizing I'm going to drop back into the 40 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: zone here and pick this off. He wasn't supposed to 41 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: do that. He was supposed to rush Warner like usual. 42 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: I mean, the instincts there were off the charts, Harrison, 43 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: So I think it's definitive number one. 44 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do too. I can't say how anybody could 45 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: argue for anything else, let alone the top two plays, 46 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: let alone the Philly Special, you know, and plus a 47 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of them like well, no, to 48 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: be fair, like, it wasn't plays. It was moments like 49 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: Joe Namath waven number one when he ran off the 50 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: field after the upset in Super Bowl three. That was 51 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: important that I get that. Oh it changed Yeah, football, 52 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: It changed the American sporting culture, like I said repeatedly, 53 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: and I think just yesterday, Joe Namath winning Super Bowl 54 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: three propelled football to the number one sport in America 55 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: in very short order. After that. Before that, it was baseball, 56 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: boxing and horse racing. But but yeah, the one thing 57 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: good about this Tom is that'll get Harrison mad when 58 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: he finds out. And he's really funny when he's mad. 59 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: He is, but he's right in this circumstance too, Like 60 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: he's gonna be angry and he's gonna be justified in 61 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: being angry. You talked about you don't want, you know, 62 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: your hometown bias to seep into it. The Holmes catch 63 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 2: in that same game might the one that I would 64 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: put up against Harrison to try to dethrone it. That 65 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: drive probably the best drive in Super Bowl history. Ben 66 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: orchestrating that, and it's starting with a penalty that knocked 67 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: him way back to the shadow of their own goal line. 68 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: I saw Ben at the next Penguin game and I 69 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: after that drive, after that drive, yeah, And I said 70 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: to him, my go, you know, I was glad when 71 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: Larry fitz scored because I knew you'd win it. And 72 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: I did, oh I did with that much time left 73 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: on the clock. I knew there was enough time for 74 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: him to win. In fact, I thought they scored early 75 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. No, no, no, not not that you can 76 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: avoid that when you're you know, well, threading the needle 77 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: for a pass like that, You're not gonna say, Santonio 78 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: run that rock, but right to the one. But fitz 79 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: was putting it up their backside. So I see what 80 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: you mean then, like you think Fitzgerald would be breaking 81 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: done fitz scored to put them ahead. I mean that 82 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: if Arisota wins the game, it's on this list. I mean, 83 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: he can, like what the hell happened on that play? Larry? 84 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: He could still be running like like like he just 85 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: like you know that when Forced Gump ran through the 86 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: title of Alabama, Larry could have done that. He ran 87 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: all the way to Larry Land. 88 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: He left Troy Polamalu in his prime, Troy Polamalo in 89 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: the dust up the middle of the field. 90 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: He was gonna win MVP of that game. 91 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: If the Cardinals would have won that Super Bowl, if 92 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: if fate changed to their favor, it was gonna be 93 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 2: Larry Fitzgerald. He was one of the best individual performances 94 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 2: of that playoffs and in that Super Bowl. 95 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: And I'm a bit sorry that Larry never got to one, 96 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: but I'm still happy with the way that game turned out. Yeah. 97 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: I mean to me, there's three plays in that game 98 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: better than Malcolm Butler. Oh yeah, capitalizing on then again, 99 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: he did step up like like Harrison did on his pick. 100 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 2: But that is just such a gaff on the part 101 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: of the Seahawks. You know, I get the Cardinals throwing 102 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: the football at the point where they were at in 103 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 2: that game. Kurt Warners, your team, Larry Fitzgerald's your number 104 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 2: one weapon. You had a guy named beast Mode in 105 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: the backfield for Seattle. It was a one yard run 106 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: like that, to me is more stupidity than great. 107 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: I'm glad they did that because that got Marshaun Winch 108 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: mad to this day without question. Yeah, and he again 109 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: justified I believe so he should be mad. He would 110 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: have waltzed into the end zone. Oh, no question, they 111 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: were gonna gonna tackle that some bitch. I mean he could, 112 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: he could? I mean I bet how old. See he 113 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: retired relatively young, didn't he did? And then he came 114 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: back a little bit to play for the Raiders after 115 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: his first retirement. He's probably in his mid thirties. Now, 116 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: there's a lot of mileage on that body. Well that's 117 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: try I forgot. He came back for the Raiders hometown team. 118 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I would go with Harrison. I mean, I'm 119 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: not going to rank Harrison number one in Bend of 120 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: Santonio number two. They might be, though, but uh see, 121 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: here's the thing. I would have never even thought of 122 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: the Malcolm Butler interception until I saw it on the list. 123 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: The helmet catch I would have put Plexico actually winning 124 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: the game. I mean the helmet catch was lucky. 125 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 2: Now what about the one they put at number six, 126 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: The Scott Norwood wide right kick for Buffalo because that's 127 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: a bad play for Norwood. 128 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: It's iconic as iconics concerned. It just decided the game 129 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: because Buffalo lost the four straight Super Bowls, but that's 130 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: the one they definitely should have won. 131 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: They were in the position to win it. Nor What 132 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: just makes that field going? It's there, So that one 133 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 2: to me. Then losing to the Giants there, that's an 134 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 2: interesting one. Again, It's not like a great play like 135 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 2: the Harrison Wane or the Bendas Antonio. It's more of 136 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: a goat in the negative sense. But it's still so 137 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: important for Super Bowl history. 138 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: Well, I mean a guy like nor would you feel 139 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: bad for the guys he's still alive? Yeah, I think so. 140 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: Like he carries that around with him the rest of 141 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: his life, kind of like Cam being unhappy about his contract. 142 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: Come and get some one five nine Penguins. With the 143 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: loss last night, that really pissed me off. I'm gonna 144 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: talk about that at length later in the show. Penn's 145 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,679 Speaker 1: have one more game before the Olympic break this tomorrow 146 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: night at Buffalo. Come watch the game with me at 147 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: Carson's Tavern and Scottdale. Great crowd last night as always 148 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: at Pittsburgh Brewing Company in Crayton for the Islanders game. 149 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: Penguins are up one point on the Aisles with two 150 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: games in hand, five points up on Columbus same amount 151 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: of games, five points up on Washed but with three 152 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: games in hand. And that's pretty good. But every point counts. 153 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: That's my complain about the Penguins these last three games. 154 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: They're not playing like every point conce They're playing like 155 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: they think there's wiggle room, like you watch Colorado play. 156 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: I mean, they're so overwhelming good. There's some games where 157 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: they just say effet and just kind of go out 158 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: there and play shinny hockey and don't quite mail it in. 159 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: I said, shinny Tom, not not not excrement, Tom dumping 160 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: me saying shinny, shinny, shinny, shinny, shinny. Come and get some. 161 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: And the Avs can do that, just go out there 162 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: and win. Anyway, every point don't count for them because 163 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: they get so many of them. It's it's different with 164 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: the Penguins. By the way, Landeskog, who's hurt all the time, 165 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: He's gonna be okay for the Olympics. If I'm the Avs, 166 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying yeah, I don't think you're playing any Olympics, 167 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: although I guess you can't stop them. But you know 168 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. He's gonna go play for Spenska, get hurt, 169 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: come back and keep stealing the Avalanche's money. That's what 170 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: I one of several reasons I'm not crazy about NHL 171 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: players playing in the Olympics. It stuff like that, player 172 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: risk and it it really makes the NHL products seem 173 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: bad by comparison. I mean, these Olympics, they're in winter. 174 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: When they give a gold medal lot, you know, in 175 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: the middle of February, it's gonna seem like that's the 176 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: end of hockey season. Meanwhile, the Stanley Cup final is 177 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: gonna last till almost July. And here's an here's another reason, 178 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: not the Olympics. But this is dumb, Okay, I meant 179 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: to say dipstick. It's just what a We're all gonna 180 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: get fired by the end of the segment. Come and 181 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: get some dip stick. I meant to say dipstick. Pasio 182 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: he butt end sid accidentally on purpose. I know how 183 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,599 Speaker 1: to do stuff like that for my deck career. What 184 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: you do is on a face off, you go way 185 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: down on the stick, which helps win the draw, but 186 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: you're exposing like a foot of your butt end. Then 187 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: in swinging the stick in trying to win the draw, 188 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: you know, you catch the guy in the ribs with 189 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: your butt end and it looks like you're just taking 190 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: the draw. But that's intentional on Pago's part. Sid got cracked, 191 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: left the game briefly. Should have been a major, but 192 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: no penalty at all. And by the way, Pego's Canadian. 193 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: He's trying to hurt Canada's captain a week before the Olympics. 194 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: Not much patriotism there. How can this league not protect 195 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: its bread and butter? And lately the Penguins are getting 196 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: screwed on so many calls, the RUSS suspension, a lot 197 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: of non calls and calls in games. And Sid's thirty eight. 198 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: He's still the face of the league at thirty eight, 199 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,119 Speaker 1: and they don't they don't they make him for granted, 200 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: they do what cyr Pus McDavid. You think he's the 201 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: face of the league with no Stanley cups McKinnon, he's 202 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: just Sid's home. Tom bobo Ovechkin he's a good sidekick 203 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: for SIB, but he's a bond villain nothing more. Sid's 204 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: the face of the league. He never says no when 205 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: they want him to do stuff like interviews, and yet 206 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: they take him for granted and don't protect him. It's 207 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: just absolutely disgusting. Uh, Tom, The Ottawa game was a disaster, 208 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: much like me trying to say dipstick. But last night 209 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 1: was winnable, which made losing in overtime more frustrating. And 210 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: by the way, now they are four and twelve, four wins, 211 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: twelve losses in games that go past the regulation sixty minutes. 212 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: And of course it was just the Islanders. Again, It's 213 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: always the freaking Islanders. It feels like, you know, it's 214 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: four to three late, it's like they're gonna tie this 215 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: game and then they're gonna win it in overtime. 216 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: It's the same old story with this team. 217 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: I don't understand why they are the bogie team like 218 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,599 Speaker 2: they are for the Penguins. But hell yeah, it was 219 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: way more frustrating on Tuesday night last night than it 220 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: was on Monday when they just flat out laid an 221 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: egg against the Senators. 222 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: And you mentioned the overtime record. 223 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 2: Now twelve overtime losses plus the shootouts that they've lost. 224 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: That's missed opportunity. 225 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 2: Last night felt like a missed opportunity to you blew 226 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 2: the Islanders off the ice. You should have gotten the 227 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: full two points created a lot of cushion between you 228 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 2: and them that you blew it. 229 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: That's right. If you're eight to eight and overtime, that's 230 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: four extra points. You're right in Carolina. Yeah. Like the 231 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: stuff they do, the mistakes they make, the games they lose, 232 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: and the way they lose them, like in overtime and shootouts, 233 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: that could easily cost them the playoffs. We had a 234 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: guy called the other day talk about can this team 235 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: make a playoff run? Is that my trip? Call them? 236 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure they're gonna make the playoffs. I'm 237 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: hopeful and they're in a good spot, but who knows. 238 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: Skinner's been pretty good, but last night he was pretty bad. 239 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: That time goal went right through him. And really none 240 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: of the goals we were great goals by them. They 241 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: just shot and they went in. It just kept going 242 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: past them. It was simple. No I think even the 243 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: overtime goal. I know it was a breakaway, but it 244 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: was just a shot. 245 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: Make a say exactly, make a safe They're they're penguins 246 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: that deserve some blame too for what happened last night. 247 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: There was mistakes made by other penguins, but to simplify it, 248 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 2: I think that's really on Skinner. 249 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: I mean they only had like what nineteen shots in 250 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: five here. 251 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 2: He owned it afterwards absolutely, which I thought was big 252 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 2: And another difference between him and Jarr. 253 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: Would have exactly exactly you know what was really odd. 254 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: Right before Rorvet shot he yelled at you come and 255 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: get some Uh. Sid is really struggling and he looks 256 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: frustrated what you don't often see. 257 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: I'm surprised by his struggles coinciding with the lead into 258 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: the Olympics, because you think he'd be ramping it up 259 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 2: right now, right with that Canadian. 260 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: Call on that you know, I don't know, it's something 261 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: so easily someoned, like a playoff hockey switch Onlos. Yeah. 262 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: And I think, like I believe I said yesterday, I 263 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: think his ups and downs this year because he's had 264 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: a few, is he's just thirty eight. Yeah, you can't 265 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: go out there every night like he prefers to play 266 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: and usually does, and that at thirty eight, it's impossible 267 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: we forget that. 268 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 2: He makes us forget that you talked about the league 269 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: taking him for granted. Maybe sometimes we take for granted 270 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: just how great he still is at that age. And 271 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: you know, I thought he was a lot better last 272 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: night than he was against the Senators Sid. 273 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: I thought he was doing a lot more in that 274 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: game last night. Well, he was just off against the center. 275 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: Everybody really was. But yeah, starting with him. 276 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: Uh you mentioned the pegiot, but end of the stick play. 277 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 2: I thought he got dumped late in the game in 278 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 2: the third period two and the rest just decided not 279 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 2: to call it, and he was complaining a little bit 280 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: to them. 281 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it just seemed like they were really blinding. 282 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: It's a dirty play that could hurt him. It did 283 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: hurt him for a second. It was intentional like that 284 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: him saying, people saying it's like part of taking it's nonsense. 285 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: I I've known guys who take draws, and I know, 286 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: let me tell you, that's a Trot's move right there, 287 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: That's a Brian Trottier move. 288 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 2: I just don't see how you could really think that 289 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: that was an accident. You'd see it more often, right, Like, 290 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 2: you don't see that happen accidentally. 291 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: See why you would think it was an accident because 292 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: like I said, he's way down on the stick to 293 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: get leverage. But I just wouldn't believe it's It just 294 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: doesn't happen very well. That's just a trick the dirty 295 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: players employ on the face off. You know, the most 296 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: frustrating moment for me on the night, besides the tying 297 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: goal for the Islanders, well Kulac that week turnover in 298 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: ot where he kind of clubbed at the puck and 299 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: they came back the other way. Horvett with the breakaway 300 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: that but but you know when the game really turned 301 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: for me. And I hate to criticize this guy because 302 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: he's been awesome. Why in the frig did China cough 303 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: pass up that one shot when the Peng was led 304 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: by one he tried to thread it through to I 305 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: forget Novaker Malkin, He's the hottest shooter on the team. 306 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: That would have been a two goal lead. The Peng 307 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: was never got a two goal lead. They just kept 308 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: giving the lead back. 309 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was so frustrating. I remember that moment too, thinking, 310 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: how do you not shoot that? Who cares who it 311 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 2: is if it's Novak? If I think it was Novak, 312 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: what are you doing there? And I hope somebody muse. 313 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 2: An assistant coach a player pulled aside and was like, dude, 314 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: you're the shooter here, like you always shoot that. 315 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: Now, that's your role on this team. 316 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: Even if he wasn't as red hot, I want Chinikov 317 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: always shooting those. 318 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but especially yeah, you'd already scored. Uh, you know 319 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: it was you know, it was a kind of a 320 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: footnote that got ignored. I thought last night. Uh, I 321 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: haven't researched all the rookies, but I know that schaefer 322 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: is that shot was a lay unbl Uh. He's all 323 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: over the ice too. Yeah, he just can skate. He's big, 324 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: He just and he plays the game with such a passion. 325 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: But but U and you know, he's the best rookie 326 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: and Kendall might be the second best. Uh. And that 327 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: was quite the matchup. Schaffer scored and played great, but 328 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: Kendall was also excellent. It looks like he's getting a 329 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: second win. 330 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: It was on national TV. But you want to talk 331 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: about the league just always misses the boat on stuff 332 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: like that. How are to eighteen year olds like Kendall 333 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: and Schaeffer not you know, promoted more for a matchup 334 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 2: like that, and you know Kendall, especially Schaeffer is the 335 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: headliner too. But then you can should be on you 336 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: heard Pierre. Pierre doesn't like to criticize like roster selection. 337 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: Oh yes, he avoids that even Yeah. 338 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: He said point blank Shaffer should be on Team Canada. 339 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: He should be. 340 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: I don't see how anybody could watch him play last night, 341 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: watch him play this year and not think that he's 342 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: the top six defenseman for that country. 343 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: Pierre is such a good analyst, and he gets real 344 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: analytical with stuff like that. So when Pierre goes out 345 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: of that zone, like when he when he said that 346 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: it was easier to blame Skinner than for Edmonton Stars 347 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: to look in the mirror. Yeah, and when he said 348 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: Shafer should definitely be on Team Canada, to me, that 349 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: carries even extra. 350 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: Oh it hits harder. Yeah, no question, But you know 351 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 2: you're right, Shaff is the headliner there. But Kendall's so 352 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: impressive too. And when the Islanders did tie the game 353 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: mark at four to four, remember Kendall the very next 354 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: shift came flying into the ozone put one on the 355 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: net on Soroken and then I think it was Brazil 356 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: had another like stuff effort on it. They had to 357 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: review it for a quick minute to see if it 358 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: went in. 359 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: He did. He did what I call a deck hockey move. 360 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: He liked the canon. Yeah, he like kind of dragged 361 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: the puck through his own feet from behind while he 362 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: was going through the New Jos almost just it's almost 363 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: like a step over in soccer. 364 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: He really we marvel at his IQ in just his 365 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: hockey sense, but like just the pure speed is amazing 366 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 2: too from him. 367 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: He's so fast. I'm gonna make a joke that he 368 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: wouldn't like. Uh, the NHL, like I said about the 369 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: way they let like Pago butt in SID, even though 370 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: Sid's to face the league. Here's the thing the NHL 371 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: doesn't want to face of the league. They've always wanted 372 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: grit to equal talent. They're all about, you know, grinding 373 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: in goalie fights as far as the league's concerned, not Batman, 374 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: but he's only the front man. 375 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: And do they think that they're smarter than all the 376 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: other leagues that always want to face and want to promote. 377 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: No, they think they're more Canadian than all the other leagues. 378 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: Well they're wrong and whatever they think. Oh, okay, that's fair, 379 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: but they have to promote a face. Each league needs 380 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: a face. That's when you get over the most. 381 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 2: That's Baseball was struggling forever because they didn't really have 382 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: a face until Otani showed up. And now he can 383 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 2: kind of be the face of that league. Like you 384 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 2: just need that. Mahomes and football, it's it's part of 385 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 2: this thing. So to think that your league is above 386 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 2: that and where the collective we don't need the superstar 387 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: out front, that's stupid. 388 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: Uh, we didn't address this in the first thing because 389 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: we want right to the greatest ever Super Bowl moments. 390 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: Do you think Cam's gonna hold in again? 391 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially after being a second team All Pro, Like 392 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: he probably deserves more money, to be honest with you, Yeah, 393 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 2: but the deal is a deal's a deal. I agree 394 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:11,959 Speaker 2: with you should play it out. 395 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: And he got his incentives and didn't didn't live. 396 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 2: Up to It's a great thing for the Steelers that 397 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 2: he outperformed that contract. You know, sometimes teams win on deals, 398 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: and they are winning on this Cam one as long 399 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 2: as they don't acquiesce, you know what's funny. 400 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: And I hope he does hold it and I will 401 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: celebrate like like it's D Day. But but like CAM 402 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: and TJ are both Hall of Fame guys. Yeah, and 403 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: like I said about TJ, but it applies to Cam too. 404 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: They're gonna have the most inconsequential and least impactful careers 405 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: of any two obvious Hall of famers I can think of. 406 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: That's what they're gonna have to wear, no question, like 407 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: they're no, they won't. They won't wear it. They won't 408 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: be made to wear it. People. There will be people 409 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: that will will point that out. 410 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 2: I know I will, and people beyond you will do 411 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 2: that too, Like it's just so obvious, Like you'll point 412 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: that out and you'll be like, don't want a playoff game? 413 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: Or Cam has one playoff win? I think it is, 414 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: and what has none? See that's where Pittsburgh sucks, and 415 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: it does suck. Our culture used to be about the 416 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: sports fans, did you win? Did you win? And maybe 417 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: this isn't nationwide, In fact I suspect it is. But 418 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: now it's about do I have your jersey? Do I 419 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: follow you on social media? Do I like you? Yeah much? 420 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: Do I like you too? And like I get told 421 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: all the time about the Steelers, Oh they're good, they're good, 422 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: Well what about not winning a playoff game doesn't matter. 423 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: They're good. Shut up. I literally get told stuff like that, 424 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: You're just a hater. That's the retreat. You're a hater. Yeah. 425 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 2: And then some people be like, we, oh, what do 426 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 2: you get tired of winning? As if the winning and 427 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: the regular season it means something, but it's gotta lead 428 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: to winning in the postseason like that. That is a 429 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 2: part of the formulas. You win in the regular season 430 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 2: to then get a chance to win in the postseason 431 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: and then win in said postseason. 432 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: And it's just been far, far too long for them. 433 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: There's so many teams that have just lapped them with 434 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 2: postseason wins, Teams that are way beneath the Steelers as 435 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 2: a franchise since their last one in twenty sixteen. 436 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: Andy Weidel is in demand somewhere else. Let's hope he 437 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: doesn't leave. We'll talk about that in the moment. And 438 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: Shador Sanders said he's proven to himself he's capable of 439 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: dominating the NFL. Boy, I must have missed when that happened. 440 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: Come we get some listen to the X everywhere you 441 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: go now everywhere, tell your sports device Alexa play one 442 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: oh five point ninety X on iHeartRadio. Finey. This hour 443 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: brought to us by our good friends at Shandorovia Shendrovic 444 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: and Fisherman Tom. We got some breaking news. The Steelers 445 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: have hired an offensive coordinator. Brian Angelicio has a pit 446 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: connection assistant coach there from six through ten, has a 447 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: tight ends background first time being an offensive coordinator. But 448 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a job that honestly requires much experience. 449 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: I think you'll be gaining experience because you're basically doing 450 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy's detail work, because he's going to formulate the 451 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: offense and call the plays, and obviously Aaron Rodgers is 452 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: going to have power of veto and everything. So it's 453 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: not a big name, but it's a promising coaching talent. 454 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: I'm okay with it. He is a promising coaching talent. 455 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 2: Pretty late start though for him, as far as finally 456 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 2: being an offensive coordinator, he's fifty three years old, so 457 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: that's a bit surprising to me. 458 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: I agree with you. 459 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 2: The position here is just a details guy, you know, 460 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 2: or organizing practice, going over the script like that, helping 461 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 2: McCarthy put the game plan together, and then game day 462 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: it's all McCarthy he's going to be calling the play. 463 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: So because of that, I really assumed it was. 464 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 2: Going to be like a young up and coming, you know, 465 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 2: maybe late thirties guy that was going to get a 466 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 2: crack at that where he didn't have the full on 467 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: pressure of calling plays. So I'm slightly surprised at how 468 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: old Angelicia is without having had this opportunity before. But 469 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 2: everybody seems to think it's a fine hire. But you 470 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 2: said they're gonna think that. That's what I was just 471 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: gonna say. You've said you called this a week ago. 472 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 2: You were like, we're gonna hire a staff. Everybod's gonna 473 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 2: say this guy's great, that guy's great, this guy's great. 474 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: We have no idea what they're going to bring to 475 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: the table. Oh you know what, I forgot about the 476 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: trips here to take a headshot of me for my 477 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: column right now? For Yeah, we gotta We're gonna have 478 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: to do that at some point. Can I be in 479 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: it now? Uh? Yeah? But you look at this angelic Chio. 480 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: You got you got Pitt tight ends coach Yeah, Rutgers 481 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: tight ends coach Tampa Bay Buccaneers tight ends coach Cleveland, 482 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: Brons tight ends coach Green Bay Packers tight ends coach Washington, 483 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: UH Commander's tight ends coach, Carolina Panthers tight ends coach 484 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings passing game coordinator and tight ends coach. So 485 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: I assumed, at very least still spot that Friar moose 486 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: way better than the fat kid. 487 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,959 Speaker 2: I hope that doesn't mean that we're going to use 488 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 2: all three tight ends again, because I thought that we 489 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 2: were for sure going to move past that. And I'm 490 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 2: joking there because we are going to move past that. 491 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: McCarthy lives in eleven personnel. He has three receivers on 492 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: the field. That's just his bag. So Angelichio is not 493 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 2: going to come in and be like, no, I like 494 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: using tight ends. 495 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: You're right. 496 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 2: It is encouraging to think of him, and maybe that's 497 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 2: his specialty, unlocking Pat Fryarmuth into being, you know, an 498 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: eight hundred yard type of tight end. 499 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: But what if Rogers wants Washington to play, and he might. 500 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: I think he is gonna want Washington to play. I'm 501 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 2: okay with Darnell and Pat Firemouth. It just got to 502 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: cut on it. 503 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: But they don't use two tight ends very often. Probably not. 504 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know Darnell really should be the odd 505 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 2: man out too here. I mean again, like we just 506 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 2: said they Darnell should be as a tackle. I don't 507 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 2: hate that. Well, I mean it's it's Pie and the Sky. 508 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,719 Speaker 1: We always reference that because Larry Brown did that with 509 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl Steelers of the seventies went from catching 510 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: a touchdown pass as a tight end in the first 511 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: Super Bowl win to being a tackle not long after. 512 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: But and that decision needs to be made now if 513 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: they were actually gonna do it, well, they're not good. 514 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: They're not good. This just into Cam Hayward and Aaron Donald, 515 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: the Steeler and the pit guy, will be part of 516 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: NBC's Super Bowl coverage. My first question to Cam would be, Cam, 517 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 1: speaking from your vast experience at winning playoff games, how 518 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: does it feel to get nowhere close to this game? Ever? 519 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 2: Do you think Aaron Donald's gonna wear his ring on 520 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 2: the desk right next to Cam Hayward has paper bowl 521 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 2: ring just kind of maybe like tap it, you know, 522 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: next to him a couple of times, just to make 523 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: sure he notices it, notices the bling. 524 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: That would be pretty good, But but I don't think so. 525 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 2: Cam here just wants to do media right, I mean now, 526 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 2: don't you think that there's I mean, he's still a 527 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: very good football player, So who am I to say to, 528 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: you know, retire and go do that? But it feels 529 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 2: like you got a good avenue there with your podcast 530 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 2: and now you're doing NBC work, like there's a second 531 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 2: act for you there if you want it. 532 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: I think he's bland and had charisma bypass surgery. I 533 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: don't know if Donald's going to be much more charismatic either. Yeah, 534 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: I just but but then again, every exactlete gets a mic. 535 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: It's about the name more than how question, no question? 536 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: You know what I'm writing to calm for the trip Tom, 537 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: about where media has gone wrong because the Washington Post 538 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: sports department is shutting down and people are reenacting the 539 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: death scene from Camille that work in sports journalism. But 540 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: the problems are much deeper than that. And part of 541 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: it is that every ex athlete gets a mic, and 542 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: they always take the current athletes side. They're never criticism, 543 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: they won't of current athletes, they won't offend the brotherhood. 544 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: And making it even worse is the few guys like 545 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: they have Greenie in there on that show on Get 546 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: Up on ESPN, and he's kind of like the MC 547 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: kind of like the traffic cop, right, Yeah, and he 548 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: just fanboys for the ex athletes and never disagrees and 549 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: you know, throwing the humorous you know, conflict once in 550 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: a while. But he's just the patsy for them. And 551 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: and you know, there's there's so many problems with sports 552 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,479 Speaker 1: media and I'm I'm glad I'm a lot closer to 553 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: the end than i am the middle. Tom Up news 554 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: from yesterday, the fan in Detroit is suing the Steelers 555 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: and Metcalf et cetera for one hundred million. What do 556 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: you make of that? Like, like Cabali said, I wouldn't 557 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: give this guy a dime. Well, but it's not up 558 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: to you, Mark, you know, Like and like, why don't 559 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: people understand that DK is totally one hundred in the 560 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: wrong here? I mean the fan, he's obviously kind of 561 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: kind of warped, you know, you no question, he didn't 562 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: even say nothing that got him thrown out the game. 563 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: He's not banned. I mean, DK is in at fault 564 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: totally the Steelers for letting him do it or fault totally. 565 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: But people are taking uh DK side and rid of 566 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: killing the guy. Let's be honest, Tom, if an opposing 567 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: player smacked the fan and act was sure, you'd want 568 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: his head on a pike. You know that's true. 569 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, Like I don't want to go 570 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 2: have a beer with this fan in Detroit. I wouldn't 571 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 2: watch a game with him, like he seems like an 572 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: obnoxious jerkof to be honest with you. 573 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: But depends on if he wins the lawsuit. 574 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 2: DK Metcalf has everything to lose in that equation. He 575 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 2: absolutely was the one that was the most in the 576 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 2: wrong there walking over and then putting his hands on 577 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 2: that fan. The fact that they're going through with this lawsuit, 578 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: like going through one hundred million dollar lossuit, that means 579 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 2: that his lawyers think that there's at least a good 580 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 2: chance that we're getting a settlement here, right, Like they. 581 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: Wouldn't go through with here. Here's what I hate about 582 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: stuff like this in the perception of it locally. I 583 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: know there's some things that are debatable. This isn't debatable. 584 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm a thousand percent right, Metcalf's a thand percent wrong, 585 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: And people say, no, no, no, that guy, he's a goof, 586 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: he's a he's a parasite. Blah, blah. 587 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 2: Well, I think the folkrum of the lawsuit, if I'm 588 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: not mistaken, is it's he's seeking the damages of his 589 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 2: reputation because of the racial slur that was implied, right. 590 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: Which I'm glad about because then we'll see we have 591 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 1: to get discovery will know well and we'll see if 592 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: Ocho Cinco and Harrison were lying when they say they 593 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 1: talk to dec we might get their texts, we might 594 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: get their text messages like the Epstein files, But with 595 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 1: Ocho Cinco. I bet just like that. Uh I bet, 596 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: I bet Harrison and Ocho Sinko were part of the lawsuit. 597 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: I think they absolutely will be, because again, it's gotta 598 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 2: pivot on it. If he's suing for defamation, the defamation 599 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 2: comes from them alleging that he used a racial slur 600 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 2: that's going to affect his life. 601 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 1: And here's and here's the best part of it. If 602 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: Harrison and Ocho Cinco are part of the lawsuit, the 603 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: next time they get in back of a microphone, they 604 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: will absolutely dig the hole deeper because they're stupid. 605 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: The lawyer for the Lions Phone can't wait for them 606 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 2: to do their next podcast. He's gonna have a tape 607 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: recorder rolling on his own right and just a note 608 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 2: pad in front of him. 609 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: You think I'm kind of second guests to myself. You 610 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: think Harrison Ocho Sinko are that stupid or do you 611 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: think their loyals will keep them from being that stupid? 612 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: See, they definitely have good lawyers, so the jokes aside, 613 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 2: they probably would have been told, like, hey, stop talking 614 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: about that. 615 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: But famous athletes think they're above the law. Steve I saw. 616 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: Ocho Sinko tweeted something very similar to Cabali. A fan 617 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: tweeted at Chad Ocho Cinco and his replies and said, 618 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 2: you're getting sued loll kind of implying this, and Chad said, 619 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 2: good luck getting a dime from me. It's like, okay, well, Jiska, 620 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 2: what if the courts decide that you do owe something 621 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 2: or that you are involved in this in some way? Yeah, 622 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 2: no question, But that goes back to what you're saying. 623 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: They just think that they're above it. They just think 624 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: that they'll just skate because they have quite frankly and 625 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 2: everything in their life mostly and. 626 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: Like, has get Up done a take on this? You know? 627 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: You know what's funny. Get Up is my guilty pleasure. 628 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: I won't watch pat because it's absolutely imbecilic. I won't 629 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: watch stephen A. Smith Cooks almost as imbasilic. There's the 630 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: description I could apply to that show that would be 631 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: one hundred percent correct. It would just cause a few 632 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna use it. But but Get Up 633 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: is the like least of the evils. 634 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 2: Because Greeney was so great, Like once upon a time, 635 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 2: Greenee really was this bastion of great. 636 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: Michael Gollwicks was an ex player that embraced actually being 637 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: in the media, whereas like even those even those busting 638 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: with the boys, guys like Cam Newton, they don't see 639 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: themselves as Medy, they Ryan Clark, they see themselves as 640 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: players who were talking into a microphone. And I still 641 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: listen to Mike Aloks though ESPN embraces that. 642 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 2: By the way, Michael Looks still does some work with 643 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 2: some other networks like Fox Sports, FanDuel, stuff like that, 644 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: and I still listen to him. He's still so great. 645 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 2: And Mark he's still you know, is kind of towing 646 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: that line of being more in the media than on 647 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: the player side. Like he'll say, hey, your contracts are 648 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 2: contract you know you got to show up. You gotta 649 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 2: play like he'll have those takes and think about how 650 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 2: minimized his voice has been. As far as like ESPN 651 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 2: is concerned. He's an ESPN legend and they just got 652 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 2: nothing to do with him. 653 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: Now. One more penguin note. I said earlier how bad 654 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: Stuart Skinner played last night, and he did. But that's 655 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: unfortunately a trend that goes before last night. Over his 656 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: last This from Bob Grove, so you know it's absolutely correct. 657 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: Over his last five periods and last night's overtime. Skinner's 658 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: a lot ten goals on thirty seven shots. His say 659 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: percentage is zero point seven oh six. That is not good, 660 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: but I'd still rather have him than Jari. Come and 661 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: get some. It's The Woody Show. You can stream the 662 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: X and us The Woody Show on the free iHeartRadio 663 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: app weekday mornings and six X from the one oh 664 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: five nine the ex Weather Center. This report is sponsored 665 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: by Groundworks, your local experts for foundation and concrete repair. 666 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: It's gonna be partly to mostly cloudy Today. It's the 667 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: Mark manhon Free Game Show one o DX some hockey news. 668 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: Jack Hughes is out of line up for the new 669 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: Jersey Devils. It looks like there's some dot he'll be 670 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: of available for Team USA for the Olympics. Tom there's 671 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: some guys that'd like to see get hurt for the 672 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: US to be replaced by one of the better players 673 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: they left off, like, for example, a Cole Kawfield or 674 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: Jason Robertson up front, but use as a relatively useful 675 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: player if overrated. You know what's gonna happen. They're gonna 676 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: go over there and he won't be available, and the 677 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: Ka Chuck's will get hurt because they play every show. 678 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: It's a five car pile up. I just think this 679 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: is looming disaster for the US. We'll talk to TK 680 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: about the Olympics at four thirty. Right now, though, it's 681 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: time for the Trifecta. 682 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 2: For today's trifecta, Mark, So, since Dana Carvey has been 683 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 2: kind of all over the show the past couple of days, 684 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 2: I was thinking about Saturday Night Live most versatile cast members. 685 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 2: So I'm not talking about like you know, cast members 686 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 2: that became the most famous, had great movie success, were 687 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 2: even the best, but they did everything. They were glue 688 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 2: guys on those casts. And Dana's number three for me 689 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 2: on this list. Dana Carvey. Yeah, Dana, everything he did 690 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 2: was great. He was pretty full proof. 691 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: Pretty full. That's a good way to put it. These 692 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: guys are all And the funny part was I like 693 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: his less famous stuff better. Like I wasn't crazy about 694 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: Church Lady, wasn't crazy about Wayne's World. What about chopping 695 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:12,719 Speaker 1: broccol That that was pretty good. And boys, there's one 696 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: other thing he did the gut over oh, President Bush. 697 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, the impressions were out of 698 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 2: control with Dana Carvey, like that was a superpower. 699 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: He gave some really good advice on doing an impression. 700 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: He said every time he did President Bush, he took 701 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: it a little further, Like he made it more of 702 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: a palette. You hear that because he goes when you 703 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: get away from it, gradually you normalize the parody. 704 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 2: And you know he's always you've been hitting a catchphrase 705 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: of his lately, but he's so good with catchphrases with 706 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 2: not gun det like that was his big catchrase with Bush. 707 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 2: And that's what you're saying, Like it would evolve into 708 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 2: him just going ah that at some point, like he 709 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 2: wouldn't even say the words number two from the original cast. 710 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with dan Aykroyd. I mean, Danny was 711 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 2: just all over every impressions original characters. 712 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan of the Coneheads. I don't 713 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: think you are either, but iconic character that he created there, 714 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: so he was. It should have been done one time. 715 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: Instead it was made like the kimber b should have 716 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: been done one time two back when and where I 717 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: give Acuid credit. He didn't mind being second fiddle. However, 718 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: slightly to like Belushi. He knew when to layout for Blushi. 719 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 2: That's what makes these three guys on the list and 720 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 2: some of the guys that were just off the list 721 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 2: a girl that's just off the list two so great 722 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 2: is that they could be the lead if they had to, 723 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 2: but they could be number two, they could be number 724 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 2: three and just deliver that one Line's only. 725 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: One choice for number one. Let's sef you got to 726 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: write Phil Hartman, Absolutely right, It's gotta be Phil Hartmon, 727 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: that's right, Frank. His nickname was the glue in that cast, 728 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: or in that era of cast with Sandler and Farley, 729 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: in those I've read all the SNL books, remember the 730 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: real thick one? Uh, the same guys who did the 731 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: ESPN real thick book did an SNL oral history, and 732 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: they would be at read throughs for scripts, and Hartman 733 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: would do his thing and people would like mutter glue, 734 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: glue glue. He was every everything he needed him to be. 735 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: He could do it. 736 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 2: The impressions were perfect, Presidential, Frank Sinatra, just original Callum Chairman, 737 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 2: unfrozen k Man, Lawyer, I mean, just original characters like 738 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 2: that only did it one time. I mean, he he was, 739 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 2: he and my mind might be the all time great 740 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 2: SNL cast member. It's tough to not give that to 741 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 2: one of the originals, because none of them exist without 742 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 2: the originals. 743 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: But aside from them, I mean, Hartman was just unbelievable. 744 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,919 Speaker 1: That's a good question. Hartman's right there. I might say 745 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: Bill Murray because he's not original. That's a good point. 746 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: And the overlaps, Yeah, I might say Belushi, you can't 747 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 1: forget Eddie. I might say Akroy. Eddie was so big too. 748 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 1: But Eddie was was the best guy at a time 749 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: when the cast wasn't very good. It was just him 750 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: and Piscopa, right, And I'm not saying that gave him 751 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: an unfair advantage, but he he didn't have an advantage, 752 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: you know, you know the Piscopo thing. I thought Hartman 753 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: did Sinatra better than Piscopo and the Sinatra grapa, and 754 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: Piscopo just thought he was the best. You know what 755 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: Piscopo would do when they would do read throughs, like 756 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: for his Snatra skits, he would say, well, Frank wouldn't 757 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: say that, and like and finally, Lord Mike, there somebody said, 758 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: to listen, this is a parody Frank. It's not. It's 759 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: not trying to anticipate what Frank would say. 760 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,919 Speaker 2: A couple of people I had just off this list, 761 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 2: Bill Hater. I think Bill Hater is such a personal member. 762 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 2: Kristin Weig. Kristin Wegg is all over the place as 763 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 2: far as a cast member of Saturday Night Live is concerned. 764 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 2: And then off the radar one Darryl Hammond. He was 765 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 2: on the cast for a long time, but he did 766 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 2: all the impressions. He was in all those I thought. 767 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 1: It was on too long though, I thought he overstayed 768 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: his is uh welcome, but you know what I mean. 769 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: He was on for a while, but Sean Connery and 770 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: Celebrity Jeopardy is all times tremendous, especially mispronouncing the categories. 771 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: I'll take anal bum cover that's an album cover, and 772 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: and and and by the way, Farrell as uh trebek u. 773 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 2: Will Ferrell Now in hindsight, I mean his Saturday Night 774 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 2: Live career might be better than his movie career. 775 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. Farrell was much better in shorter doses, 776 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: in sketch comedy, yeah yeah, and in cameos like I 777 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: thought him as Chaz in The Wedding Crashers was as 778 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: good as anything he's done. I mean old school obviously, semi. 779 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,959 Speaker 2: I mean he's got great ones. I love Talladega Knights. 780 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 2: The other guys is right. 781 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: I I liked him and Talladega Knights. I I thought 782 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: that Sasha Baron Cohen was like, I didn't ruin it, 783 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:16,439 Speaker 1: but I just I come off homophobic. But that's not why. 784 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: I just thought it was unnecessarily over the top character 785 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: I take I love this stuff. Actually the best seas 786 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 1: were him and Andy Richter. Oh yes, is the husband 787 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: Gregory tremendous. I take back what I said. Do you 788 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: know that that series Heated Rival was based on. 789 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I tell me what I said about his you 790 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 2: know SNL crew is probably better than his movie career. 791 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 2: I'm just salty because well, Farrell sucks now just to 792 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 2: be quite frank, because from SNL into the movies, I mean, 793 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 2: he was just a superstar and to just lose the 794 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 2: steam like he has, like even Sandler's still pumping out 795 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 2: some funny stuff like Farrell's just not doing anything. 796 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,479 Speaker 1: Sandler's gone more safe. Well I can't say that though, 797 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: like stuff like the Grown Ups movies, they were very 798 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: safe and kind of family as warm. It felt good, 799 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: good description, but then again he did uncut gems. 800 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 2: That's a serious funny people, funny people, more serious tone 801 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 2: to it. Now Sandler has aged a lot more gracefully 802 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 2: than Pharaoh has. Ferrel this would be I got his 803 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 2: third act because first act SNL, second act first to 804 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,399 Speaker 2: being a superstar movies just hasn't hit that third act 805 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 2: at all. 806 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: You know what I like about Sander more than just 807 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: about anything is did by all counts. He's a great father, 808 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: just a fantastic dad. And I liked it when he 809 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: goes to like the the the Oscars whatever he dresses 810 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: like it's a sweats yeahud, that's what that's how he's comfortable. 811 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: And you know what when you're that successful and rich, 812 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: you've earned the right to do that same thing. 813 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 2: When he goes on like the late night shows, like 814 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 2: if you go on Conan or anything, it's Jim Schwartz 815 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:36,240 Speaker 2: and a T shirt. 816 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: No one else has the balls to do that. Yeah. No, 817 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: I'm a big Sandler guy. The Trifector brought to us 818 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: by Danny's PiZZ and Hogies, Family owned and operated. This 819 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: is nineteen sixty. That's Danny's A Route eighty eight and 820 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: Bethel Park. I gotta get a headshot taken for my 821 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: trip column. I certainly don't look for part. Haven't had 822 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: a haircutted like a well, my hair my not that 823 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: I'm old. My hair and grow so much faster and 824 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: it's weird and I'll be dead soon. Come and get 825 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: some