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Speaker 1: And all of the game's big calls went against Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: and honestly out of call two of them the opposite way.

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Speaker 1: finally on that Knees done batted ball with Rogers and

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Speaker 1: was a third call, the one for roughing Christian Koontz

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Speaker 2: Goal the long snapper.

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Speaker 1: It gave the Steelers a first down and they went

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Speaker 1: That's what decides football games. Sometimes it goes the other way.

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Speaker 1: We all remember Jesse James. This is the Mark Madden Show.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk to Tommy Radio. Tom how would you have

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Speaker 1: Where likely had the ball for what I felt was

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Speaker 4: I personally think that is a touchdown, just like I

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Speaker 4: just such a crapshoot. I feel like when it comes

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Speaker 4: Roman Wilson, you remember the touchdown he scored in garbage

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Speaker 4: nobody cared about that call because the game's garbage time. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it had already been decided.

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Speaker 1: Now, now, what about a negated turnover where Rogers had

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Speaker 2: Don I don't get that one.

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Speaker 4: I actually think that the John Harbaugh explanation in his

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Speaker 4: to catch the ball. Now, he is not a quarterback anymore.

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Speaker 4: He is a pass catcher. Pass Catchers have to survive

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Speaker 4: himself up. No, he tipped the ball back to himself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in any fight for fumble, the ball invariably goes

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Speaker 1: You never see the ref say no, no, you ended

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Speaker 4: And that has become a specialty position, right because usually

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Speaker 2: To do your long snapping.

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Speaker 1: Right, you're snapping them and you're saying, Okay, this one

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Speaker 4: It's absurd, it is. And you saw I think it

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Speaker 1: It's funny because because part of me feels like we're

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Speaker 2: But they decided the game period.

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Speaker 1: If any one of those calls goes against the Steelers,

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Speaker 4: and you and I both agree that it should have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but again I'm not outraged, not because we see

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Speaker 1: But you know, Steeler fans think it's the good call

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Speaker 1: You know, if Baltimore would if the touchdown counts, it's

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Speaker 2: I hate that pathetic nature of some fans. Just admit it.

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Speaker 2: I totally no, no, no, I hate that part.

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Speaker 4: I hate when you're just like, great call, not even

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Speaker 4: we kind of got away with one there. But that's okay.

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Speaker 1: Now, Rogers was real good, two hundred and sixty four

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Speaker 2: Only played two or three. They're easy to pick the.

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Speaker 4: Four touchdown games, the Jets and the Bengals game, or

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Speaker 1: Anti Rodgers, that's stuff about how the media should shut

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Speaker 4: He lives for that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, Grandpa, I couldn't hear you.

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Speaker 4: He did look even older somehow in that game with

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Speaker 1: I will say, when he ran for the touchdown, you

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Speaker 2: Did you think he was gonna make it? There was

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Speaker 2: We could have Mason Rudolf time soon.

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Speaker 1: DK Metcalf broke out a buck forty eight receiving yards.

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Speaker 4: They got crushed in time of possession again too. In fact,

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Speaker 2: Well, I hated that play calling in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: Ever, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Sure if the defense was good or if Lamar was shaky.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So, do you feel like the Steelers are in

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Speaker 1: They just got killed by Buffalo last week at Aquashore.

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Speaker 2: Long for that to happen.

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Speaker 1: Miami is coming here from Monday Night football. Now. Miami

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Speaker 1: They allowed four hundred yard yesterday, including over two hundred

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a flukey win.

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Speaker 1: I'm really not sure how the heck the Steelers won,

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Speaker 4: It might come down to week eighteen still, but I

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Speaker 2: Nine's gonna get it done.

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Speaker 4: That's the Dolphins game and the Browns game on the

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Speaker 2: The Ravens have to go to No hold it.

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Speaker 1: If the Ravens, you know, beat the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: They definitely do, you know. I still think their roster

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Speaker 2: I'm not there yet with the Steelers at all.

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Speaker 2: I think it could be Jacksonville. Yeah, that's the one

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Speaker 4: And I don't know if it's a commitment issue, because

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Speaker 1: Even when Baltimore had all those chances at the end

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Speaker 4: It was just like they're never going to figure out,

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Speaker 2: What was Rogers thinking when he ran it in for

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Speaker 1: Like I said earlier, I think the old man finally

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Speaker 4: I'd hit him a little. Wait, I did hit him

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Speaker 4: He's taken some hits this year too and bounced back

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Speaker 3: This season, when you're in the mood for holiday musiclleend x.

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Speaker 1: Here's the nutty stuff, because it's brought every nutcase, especially

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Speaker 1: Dame didn't make it, and then Notre Dame declined to

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Speaker 1: some having screwed them, which I don't quite understand. How

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Speaker 1: look at nothing subjective is ever gonna get it one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent right.

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Speaker 2: And nobody who didn't make it had a chance to

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame one could have win, and Texas could have

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Speaker 1: made it too, one could have win it.

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Speaker 2: And if you want to argue.

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Speaker 1: That James Madison and Tulane shouldn't be in it, I

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Speaker 1: March madness. You're not gonna get that upset of bottom

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Speaker 2: It's just not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: But I just don't think it's a biggie that Notre

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Speaker 1: I mean, I will say religion figured into this. The

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Speaker 2: Uh, Tom, what was your take?

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Speaker 1: I was a little surprised they spurned Notre Dame just

444
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Speaker 1: because of the brand name and because the fallout.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this was inevitable.

446
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Speaker 4: I thought the brand name was going to carry Notre

447
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Speaker 4: Dame in even at the expense of leaving Miami out.

448
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Speaker 4: Despite Miami beating them head to head in the first

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Speaker 4: week of the season.

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Speaker 2: I thought.

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Speaker 1: I think they sat in the room and they would

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Speaker 1: rather put Notre Dame in ahead of Miami. I think

453
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Speaker 1: so too, But I think they wanted to get an

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Speaker 1: ACC school win and they couldn't justify putting Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: in when they had lost to Miami.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Duke blew it all up.

457
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Speaker 4: If if Virginia would have just won the ACC championship

458
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Speaker 4: game and been able to get the automatic bid for

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Speaker 4: the ACC. I wonder if Notre Dame would have slid

460
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Speaker 4: in over Miami, they wouldn't have felt that guilt of.

461
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Speaker 2: Like forget my ignorance. Why didn't Duke get the automatic.

462
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Speaker 4: Bid because it's the five highest ranked conference champions and

463
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Speaker 4: since Duke won the ACC but they were not one

464
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Speaker 4: of the five highest range Finnish championships JMU with their

465
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Speaker 4: Sun Belt championship.

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Speaker 1: Did you know that Notre Dame supposedly has an agreement

467
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Speaker 1: in place, yes, starting next year that if they're ranked

468
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Speaker 1: twelfth or higher, they are guaranteed a spot in the

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Speaker 1: college football playoff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I think this winding is even more

471
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Speaker 4: ridiculous that that fact has come to me.

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Speaker 1: Well, they should have been made to join a conference

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Speaker 1: years ago. Absolutely, they're They're not special anymore. I understand

474
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Speaker 1: they have their lucrative TV deal. Okay, well stay with

475
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Speaker 1: your lucrative TV deal with then you're not involved in this.

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Speaker 4: Isn't there a way to come to the negotiating table

477
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Speaker 4: too and keep the NBC thing going with Notre Dame

478
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Speaker 4: and their TV money, but also join a conference, Like

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Speaker 4: wouldn't the conference be able to give a little bit

480
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Speaker 4: to Notre Dame there as far as revenue sharing is concerned?

481
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Speaker 4: And Notre Dame makes some concessions back i e. Joining

482
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Speaker 4: a conference and playing the conference schedule. It is archaic

483
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Speaker 4: for them to be the only independent school, and it

484
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Speaker 4: hurt them this year. So you'd think that there would

485
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Speaker 4: be maybe some reflection from Notre Dame. Do we need

486
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Speaker 4: to change our ways? But nah, Instead it's all about

487
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Speaker 4: pointing fingers to everybody else and blaming everybody else.

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Speaker 1: The Notre Dame people, I know the fans are really mad.

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Speaker 1: I got a call today from my buddy Tim Feeney,

490
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Speaker 1: who runs pro nit where a great guy.

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Speaker 2: He was mad about Notre Dame.

492
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Speaker 1: Not that mad, But then Kevin Kelly on Twitter, who's

493
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Speaker 1: my friend as well Pro Wrestling at is like livid.

494
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Speaker 1: Like the Notre Dame people, They're not half mad, they're

495
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Speaker 1: all the way live. No.

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Speaker 4: I get it, well, I get it from their perspective

497
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Speaker 4: as a fan, but I think it's hilarious that they

498
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Speaker 4: were the team that was snubbed.

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Speaker 2: I just never thought that a brand name like that

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Speaker 2: would be on the cutting block.

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Speaker 4: I ain't seen Texas bitching of you. Well, they were

502
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Speaker 4: nine to three, Like how much of a they really have? Again,

503
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Speaker 4: I give the committee credit because they would have liked

504
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Speaker 4: to have arch manning oh without questioning that brand too listen,

505
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Speaker 4: if the committee could have would.

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Speaker 1: Be a better playoff, if you could knock out James

507
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Speaker 1: Madison and Toulane and put it in Texasas.

508
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Speaker 4: Or even BYU instead of Texas or somebody like that,

509
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Speaker 4: any of those teams.

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Speaker 2: But you want Texas, you want the brand, you want

511
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Speaker 2: the arch manning.

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Speaker 1: I would have put BYU against Notre Dame. Have the

513
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Speaker 1: two religions face off from Mormons vversus the Catholics right right,

514
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Speaker 1: and whoever wins has to has to go to the

515
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Speaker 1: go to the fifty and participate in the other teams

516
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Speaker 1: religious ceremony after the game.

517
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Speaker 2: They have to betray their God after losing, like.

518
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Speaker 4: The Mormons have to take Eucharist, like have to take

519
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Speaker 4: the body of Christ, the communion, and.

520
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Speaker 2: They have to divorce all but one of their wives

521
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Speaker 2: in the Catholic tradition, so they have just one wife.

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Speaker 1: Let's not get started on the Catholic tradition. But but yeah, so,

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Speaker 1: I I mean, I don't feel bad at all for

524
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Speaker 1: Notere Dame. I would have felt worse if they hadn't

525
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Speaker 1: all overreacted as one they're fans.

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Speaker 4: I think it's funny though, to see them whinding like this,

527
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Speaker 4: it gives them that sense.

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Speaker 2: If they think they're holier than now, which I always do,

529
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Speaker 2: then they think them not being in it matters.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Right, it just doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Matter because your point at the very beginning of this

533
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Speaker 4: was so spot on. No one cares really who the

534
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Speaker 4: tenth ninth team is. They have no chance to win

535
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Speaker 4: this thing. The funniest thing to me, Mark, there's probably

536
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Speaker 4: only four teams that can win this thing this year,

537
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Speaker 4: and they're all, I think the top four seeds Ohio State, Indiana, Georgia,

538
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Speaker 4: and Texas Tech.

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Speaker 1: Did you we were good at four teams? Did you

540
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Speaker 1: watch Indiana and Ohio State? Yeah?

541
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Speaker 2: I watch the whole game. I watched it two believe.

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Speaker 4: It or not.

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Speaker 1: I was in I was in the very popular Gino

544
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Speaker 1: Brothers Pizza. I didn't have pizza, but my Harmorville. I

545
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Speaker 1: went to see Pitt Hockey play and we went there

546
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Speaker 1: afterwards and watched Indian Ohio State.

547
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Speaker 2: And full credit to Indiana for winning.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but I've never seen a game where one team

549
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Speaker 1: visibly cared a lot more than the other visibly cared.

550
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Speaker 1: Indiana was so into it, and I'm not saying Ohio

551
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Speaker 1: State tanked it, but maybe not.

552
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Speaker 2: Far from that.

553
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Speaker 4: Has there ever been a one to two matchup in

554
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Speaker 4: a championship game that meant as less as that to

555
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Speaker 4: get of the conference champions Yeah, exactly.

556
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Speaker 2: It's a farce.

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Speaker 1: My method which I've talked about, where you have the

558
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Speaker 1: four divisions of eleven geographically aligned, and you have the

559
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Speaker 1: top two go to the national tournament, and whoever wins

560
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Speaker 1: the regular season in each conference is declared conference champion.

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Speaker 1: I would love to go in front of the committee

562
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Speaker 1: and just present that to him and say, okay, tell

563
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Speaker 1: me why you can't do it. And every reason they

564
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Speaker 1: would tell me why they can't would involve power, mostly power,

565
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Speaker 1: not money even as much, but mostly power.

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Speaker 4: No, you're one hundred percent right. I mean, it's still

567
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Speaker 4: just such an arbitrary way to crown a champion. There

568
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Speaker 4: is no concrete way at the beginning of the year.

569
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Speaker 4: Do you do this, this and this and you get

570
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Speaker 4: in the playoffs and you get to win a national championship.

571
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Speaker 4: It's still subjective. It's up to a committee. Your way

572
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Speaker 4: fixes that if you expand to sixteen teams and kind

573
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Speaker 4: of do like a little European soccer kind of thing, right,

574
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Speaker 4: four SEC teams, four big ten teams to ACC. You

575
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Speaker 4: at least have an app an actual path laid out

576
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Speaker 4: in front of you. Do this stuff, you get in

577
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Speaker 4: with a chance to win.

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Speaker 1: Well, I would with my conferences, like I said, I

579
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Speaker 1: would align geographically totally dependent on geography, and I would

580
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Speaker 1: I would call them by you know, sec ACC, et cetera.

581
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Speaker 1: I might even knock got Big twelve and have like

582
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Speaker 1: a PAC instead with the with the Western teams.

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Speaker 2: And I think that is what's in a name, that

584
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Speaker 2: that is the least of the concerns in my method.

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Speaker 4: I think that's the biggest sin when it comes to

586
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Speaker 4: the death of college football is the just ritting of

587
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Speaker 4: geographic and the relevance of that.

588
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Speaker 1: All the stuff that's gone on with what like this

589
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: committee and with the conferences over expanding and far farces

590
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Speaker 1: like the ACC what their championship game turned out to be.

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Speaker 2: Tom. It is literally why I do not watch. I

592
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Speaker 2: get you.

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Speaker 4: It ruined the sport and I still love watching college

594
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 4: football and I still watch it, but I recognize that

595
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 4: the sport has been ruined from what it once was,

596
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Speaker 4: and I would have loved it to been in my

597
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 4: prime watching the sport back then when it was in

598
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Speaker 4: that geographic conferences matter and the rivalries matter so much.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, you didn't make the playoff for the national championship,

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Speaker 4: but you go to a good bowl game and that

601
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Speaker 4: matters still to the team.

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Speaker 1: And there are people now saying, well, why did you

603
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Speaker 1: watch that game in the bar? Fat ass Indiana and

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Speaker 1: Ohio State. I'll tell you why we couldn't find a

605
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Speaker 1: hockey game. That's the only reason why. Speaking of which, Tom,

606
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Speaker 1: I'll get to this later. But the Penguins are zero

607
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Speaker 1: to four and shootouts this year, and now I have

608
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Speaker 1: an eight game losing streaking shootouts. You can't lose every

609
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Speaker 1: shootout for a change. It wasn't the goalies home sorry,

610
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Speaker 1: stopped two out of three. Would you start trying new shooters?

611
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Speaker 1: I would start trying the kids.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I would.

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Speaker 1: Lean on the kids on this team in every possible

614
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Speaker 1: way you could lean on kids.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they did start practicing shootouts, right, didn't we

616
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Speaker 4: find that out that they did start practicing. This was

617
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Speaker 4: the only way you're gonna ever find out who was

618
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 4: actually good at it? Like, how else was Dan Mus

619
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Speaker 4: gonna know who he had on his roster that could

620
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Speaker 4: do it?

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Speaker 2: Seems to not matter to him.

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Speaker 1: Unless unless Sid rusty, and Rusty has been really good.

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Speaker 2: Pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean he's not so good that I would

625
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Speaker 1: use him every single time. Yeah, but like, but like

626
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Speaker 1: they're using Sid and Latang because and Gino didn't play,

627
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Speaker 1: which actually makes their effort against Dallas all the more

628
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Speaker 1: impressive because they played basically without a second line center.

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Speaker 2: Well hazy, but but.

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Speaker 1: But you you you use your best players. A lot

631
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Speaker 1: of coaches do, like you said, as a default. That's

632
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Speaker 1: why Sid and Latanger goes. I know what Sid and

633
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Speaker 1: Latang are gonna do before they go. He said that

634
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: about Sid for a couple of years down on the show.

635
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: This move has become very predictable.

636
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Speaker 2: For the love of God, try something different.

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Speaker 1: I remember when he went to that back end and

638
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: knocked the water bottle off in the shootout against Jose Tador,

639
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: when he when Sid was like a rookie. I think

640
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: that's the last time we saw him go to the

641
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: back end.

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00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 4: So you love leaning into the kid line and I

643
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 4: do too. Why not lean into the kids for your

644
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 4: first three shooters next time out? Coven and Kendall McGroarty

645
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 4: see how it goes.

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Speaker 2: Why not? You know what I can't see a reason

647
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: to not.

648
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 4: I mean, I think Coyvenon has a good track record

649
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 4: of it too, down in the minors. Like, I think

650
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 4: he is a pretty good shootout player. He's a tracker

651
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 4: of it. But I don't understand why you wouldn't at

652
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 4: least try that when you can't score with There was.

653
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Speaker 1: A report that Kendall was going to get loan the

654
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Speaker 1: World Dance for Canada. Yes, every single person covering the

655
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: peng was refuted that inside like ninety sec. You know

656
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 1: why they do that. That's a Canadian writer hoping he

657
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: can create a self fulfilling prophecy that they get kindled

658
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Speaker 1: to the team Canada. Yeah, yeah, which obviously Dubas isn't

659
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: gonna take over. Get that tweet and say, you know what,

660
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Speaker 1: maybe I should loan. I mean, Kendall is one of

661
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Speaker 1: their top five.

662
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Speaker 4: Players right right in the midst of a playoff push

663
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 4: where the East is so compact. We're gonna it was

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Speaker 4: it two weeks that World Juniors would be in Canada.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if if you can't trade Jarr, you can't

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Speaker 2: loan Kindle. Brunic's gonna go though, right he should? He should? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's stuff's here right now. I'd play him tomorrow night.

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Speaker 4: Just to see, just to see where he's at if

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Speaker 4: that conditioning did anything to him.

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Speaker 1: No, I want to see if we can win without

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Speaker 1: Matt Dumba, although he's not okay, at least he has

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Speaker 1: some balls.

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Speaker 4: You have to be really impressed with how the Blue

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Speaker 4: Lines played this year, because we thought that was gonna

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Speaker 4: be like the big black hole with this team. Like

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Speaker 4: that's one of the reasons why you were like, Mershaw

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Speaker 4: might not be able to play, just because how bad

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Speaker 4: the defense is gonna be.

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Speaker 1: I I look at that defense. What do you think

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Speaker 1: of the defense? Is the most surprising thing that's gone right?

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Speaker 4: I think Shane Weatherspoon and those two being good tandem

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Speaker 4: with Lettang and Carlson.

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Speaker 2: It's not It's not even closer. Okay.

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Speaker 1: The most surprising thing is that Eric Carlson has turned

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Speaker 1: into Eric Carlson again.

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Speaker 2: I thought where you've been for two years?

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Speaker 3: Pal.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say that he didn't like He.

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Speaker 1: Ain't that Eric Carlson, but he's as close as you

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Speaker 1: can expect him to be to that Eric Carlson at

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Speaker 1: this point.

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Speaker 2: In his career.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to say that he didn't like playing

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Speaker 4: under Mike Sullivan, but I think he likes playing under

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Speaker 4: Dan Muse a little bit more. But I think the

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Speaker 4: main driving force is the Sweden thing, and it's Olympic year.

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Speaker 4: Be on team Sweden.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know what sucks. I've been trying to

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Speaker 1: get ahold of our buddy Logan Cooley. Remember he took

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Speaker 1: that need and he hit. I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: a residue of that, but he is hurt. He's out

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Speaker 1: indefinitely with the lower body and driving. Heard back from

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Speaker 1: him yet, but that's okay. You touch your sony. I

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Speaker 1: can just go in their locker room afterwards and complain

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Speaker 1: about Sully with with Ian Cole one O five nine

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Speaker 2: What do we got for today's trifecta?

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Speaker 4: For today's triffect and Mark, there's a lot of optimism

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Speaker 4: after the Steelers win yesterday. But here's three reasons that

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Speaker 4: give me pessimism. Three things that happen from who I

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Speaker 4: think there's a lot of optimism out there about the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Don't this should be tempered? Double? Go ahead? What do

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Speaker 2: you got tempered optimism?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Number three for me for pessimism.

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers had just as many receptions as all other

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Speaker 4: Steelers wide receivers not named DK metcalf in this game.

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Speaker 2: Oh that kind of a reception. Yes, it counts as

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Speaker 2: a catch for Aaron Rodgers one catch, zero yards.

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Speaker 1: I still think they did Baltimore should have got the

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Speaker 1: ball there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, anyway, that was a turnover. But anyway, there's just

743
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Speaker 4: nothing else in that receiver room.

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Speaker 2: But DK Metcalf. At least in this game, you had

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Speaker 2: DK Metcalf.

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Speaker 1: Show up him. Don't kiss me off. Scratching Roman Wilson

747
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Speaker 1: for the old bass.

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Speaker 4: Steelen and Dadas Scantling. Yeah, put one of the old

749
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Speaker 4: basters out there. Do we need both Vautas, Scanling and Feelin.

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Speaker 1: They just think Roman Wilson sucks, which is on them

751
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: for drafting him and failing to develop him.

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Speaker 4: Boy, we're heading down that path with Caleb Johnson too,

753
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Speaker 4: aren't we another third round pick that they're just deciding sucks.

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Speaker 1: It's a joke of an organization. Nobody wants to say that, Lott.

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Speaker 1: I'm more than happy.

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Speaker 2: To number two.

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Speaker 4: Reasons for pessimism just got washed in time of possession again.

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00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 4: Twenty six minutes for the Steelers, thirty four minutes for

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Speaker 4: the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: That was how they probably look at it. They had

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Speaker 1: the ball eight minutes more than they did against.

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Speaker 4: Buffalo, which is unbelievable because against Buffalo, yes it was

763
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Speaker 4: twenty six minutes, is a minute less than their average

764
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Speaker 4: time of twenty seven minutes on the season, and that

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Speaker 4: average time is worse than the league. So they were

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Speaker 4: worse than their worst than the league average for two

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Speaker 4: straight weeks. And that just goes into running the ball

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Speaker 4: and them not being successful there. But my number one

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Speaker 4: reason for pessimism is that run defense. They gave up

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Speaker 4: two hundred plus yards for on the ground back to

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Speaker 4: back weeks. Henry wasn't dominant, but he was effective. They

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Speaker 4: allowed a fifty plus yard rush to the backup. I mean,

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Speaker 4: two hundred yards and back to back weeks is a problem.

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Speaker 2: You know what's weird. Though, here's where it shows. It's

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Speaker 2: a fine line.

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Speaker 1: And I do think they were lucky to win given

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Speaker 1: the three calls that all went Pittsburgh's way and stuff

778
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Speaker 1: like we're talking about not time of possession, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: But there were a couple of times where they stopped

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Speaker 1: Henry on big plays.

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Speaker 2: They definitely did. I I don't think they failed against.

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Speaker 1: The seemed more fluky than gearing up for the big down,

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Speaker 1: but they stopped them.

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Speaker 4: They did and he was under one hundred yards rushing.

785
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Speaker 4: He averaged only three point eight yards per carry. They

786
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 4: did an okay job against but at the end of

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Speaker 4: the day, you let up two hundred and seventeen yards

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Speaker 4: on the ground. That's unacceptable.

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Speaker 1: The trifecta brought to us by Danny's petern hogis Pittsburgh's

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Speaker 1: original oven bake Togy since nineteen sixty. That's Danny's a

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Speaker 1: Bethel Park. Don't forget we have I forgot to write

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Speaker 1: it down. The talk show crazed at sweeping the nation.

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Speaker 1: Caller participation that say something something sensation calls on the fifteens,

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Speaker 1: So get your calls in now, wait in line A

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Speaker 1: three three four one two wxdx. That's a three three

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Speaker 1: four one two wxdx. Sure it's a segment a half away.

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Speaker 1: We get busy, get in line.

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Speaker 4: Can I say one more thing about the rush defense too? Yes,

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Speaker 4: the Dolphins this week ran for two hundred and thirty

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Speaker 4: nine yards against the Jets and that's been their bread

801
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Speaker 4: and butter on their four game winning.

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Speaker 2: This game is losable for the Steelers. Absolutely is, because

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Speaker 2: the Dolphins Dolphins have won less win than the Steelers. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and they're running it down everybody's.

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Speaker 1: Throats, and you know it'll be the Dolphins' biggest weapon

806
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Speaker 1: in this game. That the Steelers, for sure, after beating

807
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Speaker 1: ball more and being in first place, will underestimate Miami

808
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Speaker 1: for sure. You know it's going to come in and

809
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: blow the game up. Mick, that's who.

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Speaker 2: Write it down. You heard it here.

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Speaker 4: I forgot about that angle too, the revenge factor for

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Speaker 4: Maka Fitzpatrick.

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Speaker 2: He's for sure going to blow it up. They're gonna

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Speaker 2: run for two sexual harassment again while he's in town.

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Speaker 1: Did I say that out loud? Okay, Tom, we got

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Speaker 1: to talk about this.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: The Pirates supposedly made a four year offer to Kyle

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Speaker 1: swarb Er, the free agent, four years over one hundred

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Speaker 1: million dollars. I don't believe that offer was made, and

821
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Speaker 1: it's not enough to get Schwarber.

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Speaker 2: It's just more buckos bs.

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Speaker 4: I think the offer could have been made, but it

824
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Speaker 4: was made with the knowledge that he would never accept

825
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Speaker 4: it and we can just get some nice pr out

826
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Speaker 4: there that we offered for him one hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 4: No ing Schwarber in no world would say ye. Maybe

828
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Speaker 4: light of the Jari thing with Edmonton. Maybe they had

829
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Speaker 4: Dubas make the offer. What make a totally BS offer. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I can do that. And now you got the fan

831
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Speaker 4: base so excited because look, they're trying. They spent one

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Speaker 4: hundred million theoretical dollars on trying to get Kyle Schwarber

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Speaker 4: in town.

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Speaker 2: What if Schwarber double cross them and said yes, that

835
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Speaker 2: would be tremendous. Do you think they'd renig the offer.

836
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Speaker 2: They'd pull it back. I do.

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Speaker 4: He'd say something like he failed as physical, right, Like

838
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Speaker 4: they'd bring him in a bit.

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Speaker 2: Like for sure, believable, believable.

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Speaker 4: Failed as physical. Can't offer him this contract. He's gonna

841
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 4: stay in Philly, have him like.

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Speaker 1: When you pick him up at the airport, drive him

843
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: like through the Taco Bell drive through. Make sure he

844
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Speaker 1: fails that physical He he doesn't need any way.

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Speaker 2: How overweight is he?

846
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Speaker 4: Uh, he's probably getting close to what two fifty two

847
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Speaker 4: sixty five something like that.

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Speaker 1: Tom I got what could be the clincher and bringing

849
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Speaker 1: him here one hundred million, four years awake in one

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Speaker 1: eighty sponsorship.

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Speaker 4: Get that weight down. Do we want the weight down?

852
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Speaker 4: Though he hits a lot of home runs with that weight.

853
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Speaker 4: I don't think he wants the weight down.

854
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

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00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 4: If you could eat like he does and still be

856
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 4: a world class athlete, I mean that's a dream, right,

857
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 4: Like you can go to Tacobout all you want and

858
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 4: still hit fifty home runs get paid one hundred million dollars.

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00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 4: I thought I saw it was Philly's and Red Sox

860
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 4: were like the two clear front runners that people should

861
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 4: take seriously. There's a little bit of Cincinnati creeping into

862
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 4: it because of home town connection, and I think, you know,

863
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Speaker 4: I don't think.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, Cincinnati would pull the

865
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Speaker 1: trigger under necessary offer.

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Speaker 2: I I don't think so either.

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Speaker 4: But if it was between the Reds and the Pirates,

868
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Speaker 4: he would choose the Reds go to Tito Francona. They'd

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Speaker 4: probably actually pay him more money, and they're a team

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Speaker 4: that has some promise instead of the Pirates. I think

871
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Speaker 4: that will be how it goes, but I'm not I

872
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Speaker 4: wouldn't rule out Boston making an aggressive push to try

873
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Speaker 4: to grab him, because Boston.

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Speaker 1: This is another BS, Like there was a big thing

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00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 1: I think in the trib gorm Rode Pirates make record

876
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: offer to Schwarbur like like this is a real thing,

877
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: and don't be wrong.

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00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 2: Maybe they did make the offer. I doubt it.

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Speaker 1: I don't trust him, but they didn't make an offer

880
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: he might take. And that is the difference between a

881
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: record offer and a bunch of crap.

882
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 4: And listen, this is an entire front office when it

883
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 4: comes to their baseball offices.

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00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: Is malpractice. They they are the best at that.

885
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 4: But isn't it malpracticing to be entertaining the Schwarber fantasy

886
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 4: right now and this one hundred million dollar offer instead

887
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 4: of actually going out and you know, some fringe guys

888
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 4: that could help this team, some fringe that's a minor

889
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 4: leaguer though that they're hoping pans out. I'm done with that.

890
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 4: I need a real big league bat. The password needs

891
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 4: to be your fourth big move in the offseason. Your

892
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 4: palin Drome scored twice for Liverpool Saturday.

893
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: Did you win on Saturday? Three three draw, blew a

894
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: two nil lead, blew a three two leads? Yeah?

895
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: No, I do you act like this is something I

896
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: just noticed that that things have gone disappointing. But the

897
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: Palindrome did score twice. But yeah, this, uh, this, this

898
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: offered to swarp. But it's just the biggest bunch of

899
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: crap and people keep buying into it because Pirate fans.

900
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: There is no stupider fan based in Pittsburgh than Pirate fans,

901
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: no bigger stooges among a team's media than the Pirate media.

902
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: And think about what kind of grind that takes in

903
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: with those Steeler stooges so firmly.

904
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,439
Speaker 4: Entrenched, when your national media stoogent for the Pirates too.

905
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 4: I mean, the stuff we were dealing with Pissan, with

906
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 4: the who was it to Josh Naylor? Stuff with the

907
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 4: Seattle Mariners and that croc that we had to deal

908
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 4: with a couple of weeks ago. Rosenthal's out there reporting

909
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 4: this too, like, oh, Pirates make the record offer to

910
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 4: swar whe They're putt four years, one hundred million dollars

911
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 4: on the table.

912
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: You know, Bosenthal, who was our savior for the passing bs.

913
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 4: It's gonna put this crap out there. And again, maybe

914
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 4: it is an actual deal that was offered. So Rosenthal

915
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 4: is just reporting the deal. But you know better than

916
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 4: they think it needs one hundred million for four years.

917
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 4: Let's say it's a hundred million. Even that ain't gonna

918
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 4: come calt.

919
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: I mean, what's he gonna get I think for the

920
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: pirates to get him, for the pirates to get him,

921
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: because you'd have to go over the top for the

922
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: pirates to get him.

923
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 2: Yes, I think you'd have toraw from.

924
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: Thirty million a year minimum for six years, minimum one

925
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty for six years, and I think two

926
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: hundred might actually get it done.

927
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 4: I think thirty million is what he wants from the Phillies,

928
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 4: from the Red Sox anyway a year and twenty five

929
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 4: million a year is just not gonna get anywhere close

930
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 4: to what you need to for him.

931
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: Souse, you know what the Phillies are gonna get eventually,

932
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: who skates take a swing at him?

933
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: They every so often they go all in to get

934
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: a guy like a Harper.

935
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 2: I bet it'll be swore for this time when the

936
00:38:58,480 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: time comes.

937
00:38:59,320 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 5: Now.

938
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: Now remember they went in with Halliday too once upon

939
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 2: a time.

940
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: Right now, schemes might just want to go to New York.

941
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 2: Cousin the missus.

942
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 4: She has influence in it. Oh don't you think she

943
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 4: might have the most influence in it? But you know

944
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 4: how his career. Let me tell you, she's pretty hot.

945
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 4: He could do better. Oh and he's the catch for her.

946
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 4: I mean, he's about to make half a billion dollars.

947
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: What I mean?

948
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: What I mean?

949
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: One other thing, Tom Barry Bonds did not make the

950
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame like the old time at Committee meant.

951
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: But here's the best part, Jeff Kent did.

952
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: Everybody used to intentionally walk Barry Bonds to pitch to

953
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: Jeff Kent, and now Jeff Kent made it. How funny

954
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: is that? And how have you ever seen a bigger

955
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: indictment of the folly of the Hall of Fame than that? No?

956
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: I have not.

957
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: Jeff Kent.

958
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 4: I'm looking him up right now, very good player, MVP

959
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 4: two four hundred.

960
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: They used to walk Barry Bonds intentionally to pitch to

961
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 1: Jeff Kent a hundred some times a year.

962
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not good. That's not good optics for Jeffkent.

963
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 4: But I was just trying to see if he deserves

964
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 4: it anyway, and I don't think he does deserve the

965
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame anyway, to be honest with you.

966
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: Plus he was known to be a kind of a dink.

967
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 2: So FM one oh five nine is Travis weekday morning

968
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 2: starting at ten. I'm failing at Pittsburgh