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Speaker 1: Happy Monday and Happy New Year to everybody. Brian Thomas, Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm happy to be back on some levels and not

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Speaker 1: work this morning. Appreciate those that covered for me, and

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Speaker 1: thank you Jo Ecker for the best of It's of

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Speaker 1: funny when I get the best of shows. Joe reruns

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Speaker 1: What happens to them? Now? What do they do in

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Speaker 1: protect well in this case, the dictator who is engaged

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Speaker 1: So once you've got that indictment from back in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: Ye also in addition to that, has a pending case

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Speaker 3: Perio is the biggest douche of the universe, in all

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Speaker 3: the galaxies.

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Speaker 1: There's no bigger douche than used. You've reached the top

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Speaker 1: the pinnacle.

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Speaker 3: Of douche dum good going douce, your dreams have come true.

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Speaker 1: Societal de evolution with social media just had to observed

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Speaker 1: convenience story has now been sentenced. During court hearing, Crystal Goss,

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Speaker 1: Judge also barred her from returning to the store, which

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Speaker 1: April after Royal Farms worker called the police to report

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Speaker 1: that an unknown woman head quote come in the previous

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Speaker 1: police review of oh whoa, that's a lot of feces

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Speaker 1: reviewed by police showing her quote pushing a case of

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Speaker 1: alcoholic beverages back on the shelf, pulling your pants down

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Speaker 1: and defecating on the shelves then leaving as this tradition.

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Speaker 1: I love the reporting from the smoking gun on as

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Speaker 1: the five pm bathroom break offered Gauze a little privacy

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Speaker 1: since quote doors into the beer cave and cold areas

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Speaker 1: the common area of the store. Workers however, didn't spot

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Speaker 1: her in the act. Well, that's why we have video surveillance,

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Speaker 1: isn't it. In addition this orderly conduct, she was charged

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Speaker 1: with open lewdinous, scattering rubbish and colonel mischief. Those counts

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Speaker 1: withdrawn by prosecutors as part of the negotiated plea deal.

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Speaker 1: I think restitution of eighty dollars if you think that

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Speaker 1: that offense is you know, if you're the employee that's

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Speaker 1: got to deal with that, I would value that offense

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Speaker 1: damages like psychological and emotional damages should go along with

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Speaker 1: that as well. Just a thought, maybe there'll be a

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Speaker 1: civil suit. Five forty five fifty five care Seedy Talk station.

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Speaker 1: It's a new year. How about little without Pain This

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six start Year Year Moving and KRC Deep

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Speaker 1: Talk Station. If I fifty on a Monday and a

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Speaker 1: happy one to you, don't forget fifty five carsee dot

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Speaker 1: comedy you can't listen to live. I've got the podcasts

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Speaker 1: of my guests today coming to beginning with special Daniel

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Speaker 1: Davis Deep Dive at seven oh five on Venezuela, Christopher

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Speaker 1: Smith Iman at seven twenty. I'm guessing he will maybe

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Speaker 1: make a comment or two about the violence in the city.

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Speaker 1: Hamilton Township Police Chief Scott Hughes coming up at seven

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Speaker 1: forty five his opinion on the violence over the past

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and Brother Ewing Brother Jay. He's coming

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Speaker 1: to the studio at eight oh five and share his

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Speaker 1: thoughts in comments. I really enjoy hearing what he has

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Speaker 1: to say on his Facebook commentary. He's outspoken human being

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Speaker 1: and I enjoy getting his thoughts in comments here in

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Speaker 1: the fifty five Cassee Morning Show, yours as well five

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Speaker 1: on three, seven four nine, fifty five hundred eight hundred

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Speaker 1: t phones Not in the Stack is stupid but some

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Speaker 1: high comedy from Joe Strecker. Thank you Joe for giving

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Speaker 1: me a have tab parvolls January twenty twenty sixth calendar

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Speaker 1: every day of the month, fully four Thursday the first

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Speaker 1: get approval from Iris Rolli on his statement condemning the

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Speaker 1: violence and offering thoughts and prayers for the murder of

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Speaker 1: an eleven year old in the camera Free West End.

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Speaker 1: Particularly comical in Joe's outline of the calendar protests Venezuela

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Speaker 1: on Friday the second, that will be the day before

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Speaker 1: the military operation in Venezuela happened. So apparently AFTAB got

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Speaker 1: advanced notice. And you know, seriously toward that, is it

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Speaker 1: not remarkable? How immediate? And I mentioned it earlier in

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Speaker 1: the hour that immediately these well prepared flyers and placards

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Speaker 1: and posters just showed up, and all the organization of

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Speaker 1: protests in the street magically appearing. You don't tell me

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Speaker 1: that isn't a well organized, well oiled, well financed left

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Speaker 1: wing machine going on out there. Anyway, From the fifth

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Speaker 1: of January all the way through the twenty ninth of January,

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Speaker 1: it's listed as vacation. Oh that's right, I miss that. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he's getting sworn in on the sixth. That'll be tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: so he'll be there for that or a ribbon cutting ceremony.

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Speaker 1: One of the two will bring him in town. You

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Speaker 1: got vacake. Vacation the rest of the time, and then

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Speaker 1: up on the thirtieth of January, make car payment. Thanks Joe.

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Speaker 1: Back in the stupid we go to Upper Darby, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 1: where a woman allegedly ran over her boyfriend with her

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Speaker 1: car on the sidewalk. This after an argument in the

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Speaker 1: Taco Bell parking lot. Why are you doing that, please? Said?

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Speaker 1: The Guy's lucky to be alive. He had serious injuries

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Speaker 1: as a consequence getting run over. Authority searching for twenty

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Speaker 1: three year old Destiny Green connections with the domestic violence

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Speaker 1: violence incident happened on New Year's Eve again started a

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Speaker 1: Taco Bell parking lot after an argument between Green and

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Speaker 1: her boyfriend. Man reportedly stepped out the vehicle and started

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Speaker 1: walking down the street gourd. To the announcement from the police,

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Speaker 1: Green then drove that is what we're looking for court

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Speaker 1: to police announcement, Green then drove her vehicle onto the sidewalk,

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Speaker 1: traveling the wrong way, and struck the mail from behind.

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Speaker 1: Victim suffered injuries and is lucky to be alive. That

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Speaker 1: is the full statement. Joe, is there a wrong way

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Speaker 1: on a sidewalk? I mean you can go either way

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Speaker 1: on a sidewalk. I mean're not supposed to have a

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Speaker 1: car on a sidewalk. That goes with that saying. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: let's not dwell on that. Police surge Green to turn

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Speaker 1: herself in. Ask anybody who knows where she is to

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Speaker 1: give them a call. Don't do that. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: the KFC, a Las Vegas KFC. I think that would

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Speaker 1: hold more true if it was a walmart anyway. A

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Speaker 1: man allegedly stabbed a Kentucky Fried Chicken employee after getting

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Speaker 1: upset over the gravy in his order. Thirty two year

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Speaker 1: old Jerald Carter and James Carter, forty eight, now facing

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Speaker 1: attempted murder with a deadly weapon this over gravy. Twenty

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Speaker 1: seventh of December Saturday, North Las Vegas police officers was

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Speaker 1: shut up at the KFC on Craig Road a reported

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Speaker 1: customer who stabbed an employee. Gerald Carter accused of stabbing

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Speaker 1: the employee in the back and side several times. Officers

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Speaker 1: located the two men. Several other people walking away from

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Speaker 1: the restaurant and detained him. While arresting Gerald Carter, officers

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Speaker 1: located a large knife in his pocket. Witness sa, Joe,

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Speaker 1: is that a knife in your pocket? He's having to

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Speaker 1: see me? Is that that Joe? Anyway? Jerald Carter, in

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Speaker 1: according to the witness, became upset about his gravy from KFC,

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Speaker 1: asked to speak with a manager. At some point, he

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Speaker 1: believed quote staff had disrespected him. Just walk away. Hate

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Speaker 1: that argument, which escalated him and James Craig going after

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Speaker 1: and going behind the KFC counter and fighting with the employees.

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Speaker 1: While talking with police, Jerald Carter admitted of fighting with

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Speaker 1: the employee, but denied stabbing anyone. Jerald Carter said the

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Speaker 1: employee was calling him names and disrespecting him before the fight. No,

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Speaker 1: both men detained. I know North Las Vegas Jail. It's

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Speaker 1: a tuesday, according to Las Vegas Justice Court Judge Jonathan Cooper,

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Speaker 1: who set bail at one hundred thousand dollars for Gerald

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Speaker 1: Carter and ten grand for James Carter. Oh, it's okay, though.

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Speaker 1: Should they postpond, the men will be required to wear

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Speaker 1: an ankle monitor. We all know how well that works.

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Speaker 1: Don't we Joe huh yeah, asked formerly of Over the

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Speaker 1: Rhine and now no longer living in the area, Sarah

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Speaker 1: Herringer about that gravy, what is your expectation when it

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Speaker 1: comes to KFC gravy in the first instance? Five six

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Speaker 1: fifty five care de Talk Station Brian Thomas back for vacation.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for allowing me on vacation for a while.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to my family for such an enjoyable time off.

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Speaker 1: Seems like just yesterday, and of course the time went

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Speaker 1: went quite quickly. So maybe you got a new Year's resolution.

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Speaker 1: I haven't made one yet. Anyway, Do have listener lunch

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday? Yes, first one of the year mad Tree

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Speaker 1: sum at Park, Blue Ash location. It's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun at least. I always enjoy the mad

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Speaker 1: Tree location there and I always enjoyed the company and fellowship.

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Speaker 1: We enjoy a listener lunch, So market down on your

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Speaker 1: calendar this Wednesday again, Blue Ash Slash Summit Park, mad

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Speaker 1: Tree is the place to be about eleven thirty issues

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Speaker 1: no specific set time so the doors need to be

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Speaker 1: opened though. Anyhow, coming up with the fifty five CARECCE mornings,

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Speaker 1: so let's move forward one hour with a special normally

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday at eight oh five retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel

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Speaker 1: Davis with a deep dive on Venezuela. Of course, that's

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Speaker 1: the biggest news item that's going on this over the

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Speaker 1: weekend and continues to be and will continue to dominate

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Speaker 1: the news as the devil being in the details. Who's

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Speaker 1: going to run the country, who's going to take over?

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Speaker 1: Is going to be a peaceful transition? Will it be

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Speaker 1: guerrilla war waged by the event as well an army

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Speaker 1: that's still around. God knows what's going to happen. Christopher

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Speaker 1: Smithman is going to chime in, probably on crime, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I never do know what Christopher Smithman

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Speaker 1: is all about. But we do the Smither Vent with

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Speaker 1: the former Vice mayor every Monday at seven twenty today,

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Speaker 1: no different from that starting off the calendar. You're right

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Speaker 1: from my perspective. And then at seven forty five full

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Speaker 1: seven o'clock hour, Hamilton Township Police Chief Scott Hughes, he

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Speaker 1: will offer his thoughts and comments on the violence that's

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Speaker 1: been going over the last couple of weeks during the

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Speaker 1: holiday break, no rest for the weary. Hear in the

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Speaker 1: Greater Cincinnati area. Finally, Brother Andrea Ewing, Brother Dre is

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Speaker 1: going to join the program of DATO of five in studio.

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Speaker 1: Outspoken commentary from Brother Dre. So, I hope you enjoy

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Speaker 1: hearing from him as much as I do always enjoy

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Speaker 1: hearing from you. Five one, three, seven, four nine fifty

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Speaker 1: five hundred, eight hundred and eight two three talk found

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Speaker 1: five fifty on at and T fund I mentioned the

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Speaker 1: pressent and for Manuel Noriega and anticipating what Nicholas Maduro

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Speaker 1: is going to be arguing in court. Now, I know

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Speaker 1: that Democrats are now going to be forcing a war

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Speaker 1: powers vote to prevent escalation in Venezuela without congressional approval. Listen,

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Speaker 1: if they want to exercise their right to do that,

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Speaker 1: they can. And yes, I'm aware that Senator Ran Paul

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Speaker 1: and Congressman Thomas Massey are critical of this actually having happened.

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Speaker 1: They've read their Constitution, and I know Thomas Massey and

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Speaker 1: also Judge ended of PAULA Tana, who I'm really looking

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Speaker 1: forward to talking to on Wednesday, because I have a

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Speaker 1: feeling he's with Paul and Massey on this being extra constitutional.

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Speaker 1: The president didn't have the authority to do this. Now,

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Speaker 1: pivoting over to Nicholas Creole, who is a professor law

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Speaker 1: professor Georgia College and State University. Now, he broke this

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Speaker 1: thing down, and I thought he did a pretty good

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Speaker 1: job of it, because this is what we're going to

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Speaker 1: be arguing about. Daring. In the January third edition Wall

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Speaker 1: Street Journal, Nicholas Creele Norriega, precedent for Maduro's capture and prosecution.

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Speaker 1: Critics calling President trump capture of Madua unprecedented and illegal

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Speaker 1: have short memories. He writes, We've done this before, and

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Speaker 1: the courts blessed it. And this is the part I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be interested in talking about Politan and Politano, about

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Speaker 1: the courts do have blessed this? Let's walk through it.

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Speaker 1: Go back to nineteen eighty nine December, George H. W.

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Speaker 1: Bush ordered US troops into Panama to capture Manuel Noriega,

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Speaker 1: the de facto military dictator, on what federal drug trafficking

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Speaker 1: charges he'd been indicted, just like Maduro, Noriega had been

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Speaker 1: indicted by US grand jury. Like the Venezuelan Operation, Panama

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Speaker 1: invasion occurred without congressional authorization. Hmm. Donald Trump taken a

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Speaker 1: cue from George H. W. Bush, and that nothing happened

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Speaker 1: when George H. W. Bush did this, and like what

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Speaker 1: will now happen with mss Mdua, mister Maduro Noriega was

644
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Speaker 1: forcibly brought to the US and prosecuted in federal court.

645
00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: Noriega convicted and imprisoned. The legal frame work established in

646
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Speaker 1: Noriega's case will directly govern mister Maduro's prosecution. Too bad

647
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Speaker 1: for him that the arguments we can expect his lawyers

648
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Speaker 1: to make have already been litigated and rejected by federal courts.

649
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,959
Speaker 1: The factual parallels between the two cases are striking, he writes.

650
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Speaker 1: Operation Just Cause began December twentieth, nineteen eighty nine. US

651
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: forces struck multiple targets across Panama simultaneously looking to capture

652
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Speaker 1: Noriega and restored democratic governance. Does sound familiar, doesn't it?

653
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Speaker 1: So Noriega went into hiding. The US found that he

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Speaker 1: had taken refuge in the Vatican diplomatic mission. You may

655
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: remember this. US troops surrounded him and just blasted Metallica

656
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Speaker 1: and all kinds of rock music, trying to wear him

657
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Speaker 1: down and prevent him from sleeping. So finally he did

658
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Speaker 1: surrender January third, nineteen ninety flown into Miami to face charges.

659
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Speaker 1: He was indicted in February of nineteen eighty eight on

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Speaker 1: charges of racketeering, drug trafficking, and money longering. There's your

661
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: criminal element. Specifically, he was alleged to have allowed Columbian

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Speaker 1: cartels to use Panama as a cocaine transit point and

663
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Speaker 1: facilitated the laundering of drug money. The indictment further contended

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Speaker 1: that he received millions in payoffs from the med Yen

665
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Speaker 1: cartel for his assistance with their cocaine smuggling operation. Noriega's

666
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Speaker 1: defense team made several legal challenges, which you can expect

667
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Speaker 1: in the upcoming Maduro trial. The courts shot them all down,

668
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Speaker 1: and what was arguably his strongest defense, at least in

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Speaker 1: the analysis of mister Creole, Noriega's lawyers argued that he

670
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Speaker 1: enjoyed head of state immunity. This would be your international

671
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: law people screaming about international law international law. Courts didn't

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Speaker 1: buy it. They concluded this immunity does not protect leaders

673
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Speaker 1: who are engaged in criminal enterprises, pointing out that the

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Speaker 1: immunity exists to facilitate diplomatic relations and protect official state functions,

675
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Speaker 1: but not to shield drug traffickers. Noriyega's rug trafficking was

676
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Speaker 1: seen as clearly private criminal conduct, not an official government act.

677
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Speaker 1: Now I understand the rationale behind that. This distinction between

678
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Speaker 1: official acts deserving community and criminal conduct deserving prosecution should

679
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: sound Familiar're gonna love this. The Supreme Court decision in

680
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Speaker 1: Trump versus US from twenty twenty four established that American

681
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: presidents and joy immunity for official acts but not for

682
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Speaker 1: private conduct. Noriego court applied the same principle to foreign

683
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: leaders decades ago. I thought that was a rather comical

684
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 1: tie in on that one. So Donald Trump can't deal

685
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: drugs and make some personal profit off of it. That

686
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: would be extra presidential, having nothing to do with international affairs.

687
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Speaker 1: He could be well tried and prosecuted for that. No,

688
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: no allegations, and Trump's been engaged in that activity yet

689
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 1: wait for it anyway. Noriego also argued his forcible military

690
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 1: of violated international law and the Panamanian government's sovereignty, thus

691
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Speaker 1: depriving courts of jurisdiction. That one also shot down in

692
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Speaker 1: the American courts. In rejecting that argument, the judges cited

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Speaker 1: an an eighteen eighty six case going way back cur

694
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Speaker 1: versus Illinois, in which the justices unanimously held that even

695
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Speaker 1: forcible abduction does not strip courts of jurisdiction over defendants

696
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Speaker 1: who are physically present in court. The judges refused to

697
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Speaker 1: examine whether the military operation violated international law, saying that

698
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 1: that is a non justiciable political question. Wow huh. Doriga

699
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Speaker 1: trying to claim that drug trafficking was in fact a

700
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Speaker 1: political offense that was intertwined with his governmental role, The

701
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: court shot that down, said that drug trafficking is universally

702
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: condemned criminal conduct, not political activity. The political offense exception

703
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: to extradition applies only to act committed to achieve political objectives,

704
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: not crimes committed for personal profit while holding political office,

705
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: which you know I wrote down China after that, if

706
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: China's making all the priestcursor ingredients for fentanyl, and it

707
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 1: is part of their strategy to undermine the United States

708
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: of America, that will be a political objective. Here, Let's

709
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Speaker 1: get the United States all whacked out on drugs that

710
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Speaker 1: will help us achieve our political objectives. Humph. So if

711
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Speaker 1: a jiji iping doesn't take profit or money, from the

712
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Speaker 1: sale of fentanyl precursors. Then I guess he's free from that.

713
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Speaker 1: Just contemplate that one, because you know that may be

714
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Speaker 1: phase two or four or nine down the road in

715
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: these in these actions by our government, I don't know anyway.

716
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Speaker 1: Noriegu's defense also argue the Posse Kamatatis Act generally prohibiting

717
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Speaker 1: using military forces for domestic law enforcement, barred the operation

718
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: that nabbed him. The court said, no, that act doesn't

719
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Speaker 1: apply to military operations in foreign countries, will only apply here.

720
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Speaker 1: His defenses failing and failed. Noriega ultimately convicted on eight

721
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Speaker 1: counts of drug trafficking, racketeering, money laundering, sentence of forty

722
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Speaker 1: years in prison, ended up serving seventeen and then got

723
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Speaker 1: extradited to France. He he points out, like Noriega, Maduro

724
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Speaker 1: faces federal drug trafficking charges again, that's the lynchpin for

725
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Speaker 1: all this. Yes, we've done it before. He's committing crimes

726
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: in office that are unrelated to political action. That is

727
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: a justification to arrest him. That it will result in

728
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Speaker 1: regime change, the disruption of Russia and China's influence perhaps

729
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Speaker 1: in South America, that it may result in American oil

730
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Speaker 1: companies taking back what was stolen from them from the regime.

731
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Speaker 1: Those are all secondary. They could have been the primary motivations.

732
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Speaker 1: But because you've got this indictment against the guy, and

733
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Speaker 1: because we've done this before and he was in fact

734
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Speaker 1: committing crimes in office for his own personal benefit, all

735
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Speaker 1: the other things sort of step in place behind that. Oh,

736
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Speaker 1: goodie will also get regime change. He will also interrupt

737
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Speaker 1: the relationship between China and Manuel and Nicholas Maduro and

738
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Speaker 1: Russia's influence over there, and Iran as well. Those all

739
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: may have been the primary motivations to do it, but

740
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: they are secondary to the legal reality that apparently we have,

741
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: that we can go out and arrest a drug dealer

742
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Speaker 1: who happens to be the head of a nation anyway,

743
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: like Noriega. Maduro facing federal drug trafficking charges. Like Noriega,

744
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: he was captured through military operations conducted without congressional authorization.

745
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: Like Noriego. He'll surely argue he had a state immunity

746
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: an unlawful seizure. But unless courts are willing to upmend

747
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: clear president, none of these defenses will save him. That's

748
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Speaker 1: what I'm looking forward to hearing what Napolitano says. Maduro's

749
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Speaker 1: prosecution therefore legally unassailable, at least according to mister Creole,

750
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Speaker 1: law Professor, Georgia College, because it because it uh not

751
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: because it breaks new ground, but because it so closely

752
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: follows a thirty six year old template for the federal courts,

753
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: which have already validated this. Critics may object on policy grounds,

754
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: but the underlying legal framework for mister Mduro's criminal prosecution

755
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: is well settled. The Noriega president controls, and under that precedent,

756
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Speaker 1: mister Maduro will stand trial. So there is the well

757
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: addressing the arguments against Massey and Senator rand Paul. And

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing, and I don't think I'm going on on

759
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 1: a limb on this what Judge of Poloton Is probably

760
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,959
Speaker 1: said to Tom and al. You guys are up next,

761
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Speaker 1: Hold on for a second, if you're right back. I

762
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Speaker 1: want to mention plumb type plumbing, which is always plumbing

763
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Speaker 1: done right. My favorite by Garcie Decalk Station Monday, try

764
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Speaker 1: to have a happy one five, one, three, seven, two

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Speaker 1: to three talks of post. We'll start with Tom. He's

766
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Speaker 1: got a comment about vetters. Well, Tom, thanks for calling

767
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Speaker 1: this morning, and Happy Monday to you, sir.

768
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Speaker 4: Happy Monday to you.

769
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Speaker 5: I'm glad you got over that flew.

770
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Speaker 4: I couldn't take any more pass rerun shows.

771
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Speaker 1: Thanks Tom, Man. It sucked. I am telling you, man.

772
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: It was bad all the way through our family and everybody.

773
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Speaker 1: Every time, every time I talk to somebody over the

774
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: Christmas break, everybody was struggling with it. So it's a

775
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: real it's a real problem out there. Lots of articles

776
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: about that flu going around as well, and they got

777
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: they keep telling people to get the flu vaccine. They

778
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: got the wrong one this year. I just want to

779
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: let me know that they picked the wrong one. So

780
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: good luck with that. I'm sorry, Tom, you got to

781
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: talk about that.

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Speaker 4: So what happens if Noriega he gets at a luxury

783
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Speaker 4: jail cell that Jeffrey Epstein has and he doesn't walk

784
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Speaker 4: out of there again, that's a possibility.

785
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Speaker 1: Well yeah, Maduro, Yeah, I mean, I know what you met,

786
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: but you know, that's certainly a possibility. I'd like to

787
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: think that won't happen. Considering the entire world is paying

788
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: very close attention. Some people are very supportive of what

789
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: we did, some people are against it, and you know,

790
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: but the focus of the world is directly on his

791
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: detention in America's prison. So I'd like to think that

792
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: the level of scrutiny that they're paying attention to in

793
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: his prison cell is a lot higher than Epstein's just saying.

794
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Speaker 1: Although although my pattern observer friend Maureen, you know, I

795
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: was gonna bring you up send me emails this morning

796
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: to let me know that the shoe is gonna drop.

797
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: Bombshell confirmed Venezuela and bombshell intel drop. Narco General Hugo

798
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: Carva Hall confesses CIA knew about election fraud US senators

799
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Speaker 1: funded by Narco regime. Well, I told her I keep

800
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Speaker 1: my popcorn out on that one. But she apparently is

801
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: circulating a list of all these US senators who apparently

802
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: received money directly from Yeah, I guess Maduro, the funding

803
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: has run out to the extent that it's true. Let's

804
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Speaker 1: see what Cleveland Al's got. Cleveland, Al, Welcome back and

805
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: Happy New Year to you, sir.

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Speaker 6: Happy New Year to you.

807
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Speaker 1: I just.

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Speaker 6: After you mentioned New Year's or resolutions that I bring

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Speaker 6: up a couple of points. First of all, after turning

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Speaker 6: sixty nine earlier in the month, I decided, you know,

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Speaker 6: what for this year, I'm going to give up all

812
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 6: of my bad habits. But in the end I remembered

813
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Speaker 6: what my father always told me that nobody likes a quitter.

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Speaker 1: So might I interject Cleveland, But bad is subjective, right,

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Speaker 1: Just don't label whatever you say is a bad habit,

816
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: does it?

817
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: I really enjoy that it's not a bad habit, and

819
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: it's no longer something that needs to be eliminated from

820
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Speaker 1: your list of things this year, just saying.

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Speaker 6: Yes true. And then secondly, you know, political promises are

822
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Speaker 6: an awful lot. Like New Year or resolutions, they're in

823
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Speaker 6: one year out the other. I will leave it at

824
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Speaker 6: that and hope you have a wonderful day and welcome back.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, al I truly appreciate it. Yes, I did

826
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Speaker 1: enjoy the time off, but hit the ground running this morning.

827
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Speaker 1: I have went five on three seven four fifty five

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Speaker 1: hundred eighty two three talk found five fifty on AT

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Speaker 1: and T phone. You know it doesn't get rid of

830
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: the stench of politics. I've mentioned that a million times

831
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Speaker 1: before in jest. But older egg happy one till five

832
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Speaker 1: on three, seven fifty five hundred two to three talk

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Speaker 1: to f fifty on at and t phone before get

834
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Speaker 1: some local stories. Oh look who's on the line, My

835
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Speaker 1: pattern observer friend Maureen. I the foind that I mentioned

836
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Speaker 1: your name, Maureene, you might give me a call this morning.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back and a happy new year to you.

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Speaker 2: Happy new year, Brian. You know I I sound like yeah,

839
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Speaker 2: I love you too, and I appreciate the time you

840
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Speaker 2: give me to sure to tell about my patterns. I've

841
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Speaker 2: been served, but I do. I know I sound like

842
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 2: a broken record, but I'm going to say it again anyway,

843
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 2: Like when I called in after they were taking out

844
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 2: the narco trafficking voats. Yeah, I said. This is also

845
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 2: about bringing to light the role that Venezuela played in

846
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 2: the election interference in multiple countries, seventy two countries to

847
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 2: be exact. And I know Lou Dobbs brought it out

848
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Speaker 2: in two thousand and six. He talked about smartmatic machines

849
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: and the dominion machines and how it's all going to

850
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 2: tie to Venezuela, which was used as a proxy for

851
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 2: other countries like China and Cuba and Columbia, different things

852
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 2: like that. But that'll all come out, and I don't

853
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 2: think anything's going to happen to Madua like supposedly Epstein,

854
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Speaker 2: because he's going to be the star witness in his

855
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 2: own trial to bring out all the information about these

856
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 2: voting machines.

857
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Speaker 1: So he'll implicate, he will, he will be willing to

858
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Speaker 1: implicate and admit to the reality of what you're suggesting.

859
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't have a choice. Yeah, he will bring

860
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 2: it all out. And President Trump has noticed if you

861
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 2: notice his truth on social posts, ever since they take

862
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 2: the extradition of Maduro, he has posted NonStop about the

863
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 2: election fraud. It's going to come out. He's Maduro is

864
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 2: going to be the star witness and bringing that out.

865
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 2: And the second person that's going to be the star

866
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Speaker 2: witness is Tina Peters. I mentioned her, I think a

867
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Speaker 2: couple weeks ago when I called in. People need to

868
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Speaker 2: look into her. She's the seventy year old woman, gold

869
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 2: Star Mom. She's been in prison for a year and

870
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 2: a half because of what she tried to bring out

871
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: in the Californa or the Colorado mess. Colorado, she was

872
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 2: the county clerk and she noticed as a discrepancy on

873
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 2: the machine, so she had pictures that I told you

874
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 2: all about that when I called before she's going to

875
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 2: be Trump pardoned her, but Pelosi and Colorado won't let

876
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 2: her go. So there's going to be a real stand

877
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 2: us there, and people need to pay attention to her

878
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 2: name because that's going to bring out some really big

879
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Speaker 2: and interesting things.

880
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: Okay, in so far as the allegation swirling around these

881
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Speaker 1: voting machines and the interference of American elections, I am

882
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: I didn't read the entire criminal indictment, but Madua has

883
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: been indicted for drug trafficking. That's the crime that he

884
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: was engaged in. So how is it that you would

885
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: parlay a criminal trial into an investigation or parlay that

886
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: into some way getting him to admit that there's maybe

887
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: election interference in connection with dominion voting machines. How does

888
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: dominion tie into drug dealing?

889
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 2: It's all tied together. It's allfol well just saying it.

890
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: But obviouly I'm looking at it from a lawyer's perspective.

891
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: How does evidence get introduced in a drug trial? Boiling

892
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: it down to the simplistic terms, to a whole conversation, investigation, prosecution,

893
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: maybe in connection with voting irregularities or dominion voting machines

894
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: being tampered with, are capable of being engineered to rig

895
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: the outcome of elections.

896
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 2: The money, it's all about the money and the cartel money,

897
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 2: the drug money. It funds all of this voter fraud,

898
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 2: and it's all tied together through the money. And the

899
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 2: most what's more valuable in counterfeit money is a counterfeit ballot.

900
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 2: That's a counterfeit ballot because then you can put whoever,

901
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 2: whatever rogue cartel leader you can put in and install.

902
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: You can do that through a fake ballot. So that's

903
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 2: why it's more, you know, it's more valuable. And fake

904
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: money and counterfeit money is a counterfeit balant, and that's

905
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 2: why all this is so tied together. But the drug

906
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 2: money is used to buy off people in countries, Senators, congressmen, whatever.

907
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,479
Speaker 2: FUN terroristskin to get into that list. Yeah do I I'm.

908
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: Sorry, I said, And FUN fund terrorism and terrorists resolutely.

909
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: Well that's the big See, that's a really interesting thing

910
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: I find about this whole the ripple effect on all this.

911
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: You think about Israel and the United States war action

912
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: against Iran, we blow up the nuclear facilities, et cetera.

913
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: They're kind of on the back of their heels. They

914
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: have been a sanctioned to the point where their economy

915
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: is literally collapsing around them inflations through the roof, people

916
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: are rioting in the streets. The money going into terrorists

917
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: like Hamas and Abala has been dried up from Iran effectively.

918
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: I know Venezuela is also got its massive economic problems

919
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: given the sanctions on their oil cracked down by Donald Trump.

920
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: Their flow of cash is eliminated. Not quite sure how

921
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,280
Speaker 1: Russia and going to react to all this, but clearly

922
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: this also is a mechanism to get some stability in

923
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: South America and prevent it from further influence by China

924
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: and Russia, which they were really working hard to get

925
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: more influence in South America. So lots of additional things

926
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: can come from this. So I agree with you, probably

927
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: just the tip of the iceberg. But I'm going to

928
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: be patiently waiting with my popcorn out to see if

929
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: you can parley this criminal prosecution into something that's revealing

930
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 1: about the other elements you refer to this morning. I'm

931
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: not denying it. I'm just saying I'm waiting to see

932
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: how it all works and how it all gets brought.

933
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 2: Out it will, and then Venezuela is going to come

934
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 2: out great on the other side of this.

935
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm not going to bet great worry.

936
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: We're not placing a bet on this one. I'm just

937
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: going to let this go and well, I hope you're right.

938
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,439
Speaker 1: I hope this all does come out, and I hope

939
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: we all get I get to say, with a big

940
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 1: grin on my face, Marien was right, that's what I

941
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: want out of this. But I'm not prepared to say

942
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: it yet because I haven't seen the You know me,

943
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm a lawyer. I just gotta go with what I know.

944
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 7: I know.

945
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 2: I'll give you time. I'll give you time a few

946
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 2: years last time. I know.

947
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough for your your patients and

948
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: you're You're always keeping me on the cutting edge of

949
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: your pattern observations. I truly appreciate our friendship. Maureene, love you.

950
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 1: I have a happy New Year. Six thirty six. Looks

951
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: like Keith net Keik's got a comment about Venezuela. I

952
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: can't wait to talk to you, Keith in a very

953
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: happy New Year to all. Reminder Wednesday Listener lunch first

954
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 1: one of the year, not a whole lot of time

955
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: to point it out for folks. But we have Mad

956
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,439
Speaker 1: Tree Brewery, Summit Park, Slash Blue Ash. It's a good place.

957
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: We've been there before and I always look forward to that.

958
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 1: So Wednesday, the start of twenty twenty six, listener lunch

959
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: over to the phones. I got Keith on the line. Keith,

960
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: thanks so much for calling this morning. Welcome to the

961
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:45,439
Speaker 1: Morning Show.

962
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 8: Hi, how you doing.

963
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: I'm okay. You know, you ever notice when you get

964
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: done with vacation, you feel like you need a vacation

965
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: from your vacation. Yeah, yeah, there you are, that's me.

966
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 9: I look, these democrats are hollering and screamer about what

967
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 9: Trump did with Padua. Thank god, these goofballs were in

968
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 9: power hundreds of years ago when Jefferson orchestrated the Fabus

969
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 9: frigate fleet to attack the Barbary pirates. Heck, these nuts

970
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 9: would impeached Jefferson over that. I'd be directed crazy.

971
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I you say the word impeachment, but is

972
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: that really what's going to happen? I mean, I was

973
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: looking at Chucky Schumer's comments about this. They're going to

974
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: see if they can do a war powers resolution or

975
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: at least you know, bring something up in Congress to

976
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: sort of restrain Donald Trump and his military action in Venezuela.

977
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: You know, if he's going to do regime change or

978
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, then he's going to

979
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: need some sort of congressional approval, and he has every

980
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: right to move that forward. They also had they had

981
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: one of these in November on a similar war powers

982
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: resolution because the Trump administration had been planning ground strikes

983
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: in Venezuela. He made it. He projected this for months

984
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: and months. I mean, hell, the entire fleet was down

985
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: there surrounding it. We of course did the military blockade

986
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: of the sanctioned vessels. It was in evident, Well, this

987
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: is going to happen. He even gave me Duro a

988
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: chance to step down. He didn't do it. So what's next.

989
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: We got to go in and grab Ma Dua and

990
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: put him under arrest for drug trafficking. But what happens?

991
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: What if Congress does not like they did last time.

992
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: That vote in November failed forty nine to fifty one.

993
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: So even if they do vote a war power resolution,

994
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: that might provide some restraints on Donald Trump. But if

995
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: they don't, what's the next step. I mean That's where

996
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: I find myself in a sort of a constitutional struggle.

997
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: Congress has the power to declare war. Now, the War

998
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: Powers Act may be unconstitutional, though it's never been tested before.

999
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: At least that's something else that you can do, which

1000
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: seems to be lesser than a declaration of war. But

1001
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: it gives the president a certain amount of leeway to

1002
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: engage in military activities. So if they pass one, then

1003
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: he'll be subject to certain parameters, I presume, pursuing to

1004
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: the War Powers Act. But if they don't pass anything,

1005
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: what's the next step. Are they going to try to

1006
00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: impeach him? I mean is and do they have the

1007
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: votes to do that? I think the answer is a

1008
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: resounding no. They might move forward to try to impeach

1009
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: them because they claim he violated the Constitution. But again,

1010
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: you've got this precedent going after Manuel Noriega. Bush wasn't

1011
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: impeached for doing that. He didn't have a war powers

1012
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: authorization to go in and grab Nicholas mad or to

1013
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: grab uh Manuel Noriega. So is there is this an

1014
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: impeachable offense? If Congress refuses to act to limit Donald Trump?

1015
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: It's complicated, isn't it.

1016
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 9: It's ridiculous.

1017
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean he had the legal right to do.

1018
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 9: This because of declaring Manuro doctrine. I mean, don't they

1019
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 9: realize that years ago that stuff was uh what to

1020
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 9: call it by Congress? You know they Yeah, okay, Monroe doctrine.

1021
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 9: I mean, he had a legal right to do all

1022
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 9: this because of the Monroe doctrine without a dectorally war.

1023
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not quite sure that that's the case either, Monroe,

1024
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: doctor President Monroe.

1025
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, and you know, look at what all we did

1026
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 9: in Cuba during the Spanish American War, you know, I mean,

1027
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 9: and unders of the Dreau doctrines. I mean, we had

1028
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 9: no other choice. Trump had no other choice. He had

1029
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 9: to do something about this nut.

1030
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not clear enough of my history with the

1031
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: Spanish American War to know whether or not that was authorized.

1032
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: I kind of get the sense that it was at

1033
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: least authorized, And I do believe there was a tax

1034
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: that we played on our phone bills to finance that

1035
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: particular war. Don't get don't quote me on history on that. Again,

1036
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm a bit fuzzy on it. But yeah, yeah, I

1037
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: know you but let us I mean, let me just

1038
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: look at from World War two forward. How many military

1039
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: conflicts We've been in? Lots of them, right, lots, and

1040
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: we drone strike individuals. We've blown up American citizens abroad,

1041
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: We've blown up dictators, We've fired missiles and various countries

1042
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: and killed people. Bill Clinton blew up an aspirin factory.

1043
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: Remember to take attention away from his Monica Lewinsky troubles.

1044
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: We could go on and on and on factory. At

1045
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: what point does does something somebody stand up and say no, no,

1046
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: we're putting our foot down, or will we continue down

1047
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: this road? And I believe it is expedient to allow

1048
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: president a lot of leeway on this. But when you're

1049
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: dealing with war and you're putting American lives at risk,

1050
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: and you're putting American military hardware at risk, and we

1051
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: have a limited amount of American hardware left, I mean,

1052
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: it's very very complicated. How much Let's just ask out loud,

1053
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: sort of rhetorically, qua asking how much authority does a

1054
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: president have without congressional approval unlimited? I don't know. We

1055
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: seem to be in a very gray area right now.

1056
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 2: Keith.

1057
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 9: That's I agree, and you know what you might take.

1058
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 9: I'm crazy, but I hope we take out Columbia and

1059
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 9: Cuba too after this.

1060
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 1: Well, they may be moving away from Columbia. Cuba may

1061
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 1: very well fall on its own because they are starving,

1062
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: they are currency lists, they are They're just basically a

1063
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: failed nation state. So you can just watch that one

1064
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: perhaps implode upon itself. I don't know, but yeah, Donald

1065
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: Trump is making broader threats in the region generally speaking.

1066
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Speaker 1: See what I did to Maduro. You may be very

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Speaker 1: well next. So let's step up and play nicely together,

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Speaker 1: or we're going to be sending in the troops for you.

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Speaker 1: That is certainly a message. Donald Trump has not pulled

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Speaker 1: any punches on projecting. Can he do it? That's the

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Speaker 1: big question that's swirling around. Keith. I appreciate it, man,

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Speaker 1: I really do. And I wish I knew my history

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Speaker 1: a little bit better. Take this kind of questions on

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Speaker 1: the fly. Do you know history better than me? Please

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Speaker 1: feel free to call six forty seven right now if

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Speaker 1: you have KCD talk station, and feel free to call

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Speaker 1: Zimmer Zimmer Heating and cooling the best around. More than

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Speaker 1: coming up on eighty years, I think they're closer to

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Speaker 1: about CAERCD talk station trying to have a heavy Monday

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Speaker 1: five on three seven ten d two to three talk

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Speaker 1: special Daniel Davis deep dive right off the top of

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Speaker 1: the our news in an early one from Daniel Davis,

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Speaker 1: of course on Venezuela Smith a minute seven to twenty,

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Speaker 1: we'll hear from police Chief Scott Hughes from Hamilton Township

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Speaker 1: on his opinion about all the violence been going over

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Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks and brother dre andre Ewingen

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Speaker 1: studio at eighth five violence. I'm certain we'll be at

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Speaker 1: the top of his list of things to talk about. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: real quick here local story didn't get to but since

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Speaker 1: a police secret service agents responded to since Andy home

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Speaker 1: of Yeah Vice President jd Vance. Story broke this morning

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Speaker 1: right after the mic came on. Thank you to Fletcher

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Speaker 1: keel Over at Channel five for reporting. Anyways, we've got

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Speaker 1: some local reporting. Looks like there's damage to the windows

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Speaker 1: of one of his homes. Peers as someone like maybe

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Speaker 1: have thrown rocks or something. Officers are on the scene

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Speaker 1: at his East Wannut Hills house for several hours, going

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Speaker 1: in and out. Please say a police could there could

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Speaker 1: say only that they do have a suspect. But as

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Speaker 1: of the reporting not clear if the person is in

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Speaker 1: custody what they're charged with, and Secret Service agents say

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Speaker 1: the statement will be laid made later today, sometime this morning,

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Speaker 1: so we had a little more details on that. He

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Speaker 1: wasn't even at home. He was in Cincinnati over the

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Speaker 1: last week, but he left yesterday afternoon, so I'm not

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Speaker 1: quite sure what was trying to be accomplished by that.

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Speaker 1: It's just so damned childish, so damned childish. Anyway, real

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Speaker 1: quick here, going back to the Democrats trying to force

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Speaker 1: a war powers vote to prevent escalation in Venezuela, of course,

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Speaker 1: led by Chucky Schumer. He's saying he's hoping that more

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Speaker 1: Republicans will vote to reclaim congressional power to declare war,

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Speaker 1: which I think is a funny kind of statement. Reclaimed.

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Speaker 1: This is that gray area we find ourselves in in

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Speaker 1: the period of time after World War Two, where prior

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01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 1: to that we used to make war declarations and since

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01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: then we've just kind of played fast and loose with it.

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Speaker 1: But the vote previously when they tried to rain in

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Speaker 1: Trump at least in so far as get ahead of

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Speaker 1: his efforts in Venezuela again failed forty nine to fifty one.

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Speaker 1: In the Senate, Senator Ran Paul Kentucky and Lisa Murkowski

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Speaker 1: joined with Democrats to tried to, you know, put in

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Speaker 1: place something like that, but it didn't work. So the

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Speaker 1: strikes are launched. We captured Nicholas Munder and his wife.

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Speaker 1: And if they don't pass something, and can you I mean,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate what weird political times we live in, but

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Speaker 1: do you think that the Republicans are going to oppose

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Speaker 1: Trump on this? And so I'm gonna guess know so

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Speaker 1: that the same vote will come out along the same

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Speaker 1: lines that there won't be some you know, war powers resolution,

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Speaker 1: some limitation placed on whatever further activity is going to

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Speaker 1: be involved in Venezuela. And there will be a lot involved.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Donald Trump even said it out loud that

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Speaker 1: we the United States will in his word, run Venezuela

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Speaker 1: until there can be a proper transition in a new government.

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Speaker 1: That is going to require boots on the ground. And

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Speaker 1: he said, yeah, listen, we're not afraid of boots on

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Speaker 1: the ground. We don't mind saying it. We're going to

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Speaker 1: make sure that this country is run properly. We're not

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Speaker 1: doing this in vain. You can say the motives are

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Speaker 1: all pure and good and all of that. We don't

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Speaker 1: want Venezuela to go into to a state of complete disarray.

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Speaker 1: We liked them to get their act back together and

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Speaker 1: make the happy, the citizens happy again like they used

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Speaker 1: to be before the socialists took over. So I suppose

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Speaker 1: if Congress was unified, they could pass war Plowers resolution.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that will happen. There is the power

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Speaker 1: of the purse. Since they do control the purse strings,

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Speaker 1: they could I suppose limit the military, limit the funding

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Speaker 1: of the American military, and prohibit them from spending any

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Speaker 1: money on operations in Venezuela. That will require similar Congressional approval,

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Speaker 1: and to the extent they passed legislation along those lines,

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Speaker 1: I think ultimately that might land on the President's desk

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Speaker 1: to be signed into law. Doubt that's going to happen,

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Speaker 1: and I doubt there's enough votes to override a presidential veto.

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Speaker 1: So that's not going anywhere, which leaves us where right,

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Speaker 1: That's my outloud question. Generally speaking, I'm puzzled as to

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Speaker 1: where that leaves us. And you know, I was. I

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Speaker 1: saw an article going over to New York City Zoran Mondami.

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Speaker 1: He and just a theoretical exercise here, He's called Benjamin

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Speaker 1: Nett Yahoo a war criminal guilty of the crime of genocide. Now,

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Speaker 1: if there was an indictment that have held that, then

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Speaker 1: if Zoron Mondami was president of the United States of America,

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Speaker 1: does that mean he could go in and capture Benjamin

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Speaker 1: net Yahoo and to bring him a trial here in

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Speaker 1: the United States. I think that's exactly what that means.

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Speaker 1: So depending on who's sitting in office and how much

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Speaker 1: you demonize any one individual another, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: anybody really supplied how can you really defend Maduro He

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01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 1: stole the election. Everybody knows it that the un has said,

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Speaker 1: so everyone is in uniform agreement to the guy's corrupt.

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Speaker 1: He's also a massive drug dealer and a facilitator of crime,

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Speaker 1: and the emptier of prisons in Venezuela who sent them

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Speaker 1: here to disrupt America's way alife? On and on and on.

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Speaker 1: The guy is without question a miserable piece of excrement

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Speaker 1: as a human being. Difference of opinion depending on which

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Speaker 1: world lady you're focusing on. President Zoron Mondami. If that

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Speaker 1: day ever came and bring the flag out last person standing.

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Speaker 1: He is of the mind than at Yahoo and basically

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Speaker 1: Israel itself are worthy of I suppose some sort of

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Speaker 1: prosecution since he's labeled them responsible for genocide. This is

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Speaker 1: what worries me. Not necessarily right now, but what does

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Speaker 1: the future have in store for a president who's not

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Speaker 1: subject to any particular limitations with regard to the waging

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Speaker 1: of war. Point to Barack Obama, he blew people up

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Speaker 1: remote control. I wasn't happy about that when that happened either.

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Speaker 1: It's just the world moves so fast and Congress obviously

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Speaker 1: is not in a position to react. How more than

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Speaker 1: half of them are struggling with trumped arrangement syndrome. Six

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Speaker 1: fifty seven Right now fifty five Carecy Talk Station, The

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Speaker 1: Daniel Davis Deep Dive Special edition coming up next. Hope

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Speaker 1: you can stick around. Today's tough headlines coming up, So No.

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Speaker 1: Five I fifty about Kerr Cede talk Station. So excited

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Speaker 1: when I came in this morning to see on the rundown,

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Speaker 1: a special edition of a segment we do every Tuesday

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Speaker 1: at eight thirty The Daniel Davis Deep Dive retired Lieutendan

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Speaker 1: Colonel Daniel Davis offering his beautiful, insight and thoughtful analysis

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Speaker 1: of matters involving war and of course, matters involving grabbing

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Speaker 1: Maduro and taking him to be tried in federal court

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Speaker 1: in New York City. Welcome back, Daniel Davis Deep dive time.

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Speaker 1: It's good to see my friend. Happy New Year. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with that.

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Speaker 10: Well, and thanks, thanks. I mean, we took a couple

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Speaker 10: of weeks off in the Holy Cow, a country was invaded,

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Speaker 10: in a president's rike.

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Speaker 1: We better not take off anymore. Too many things are happening.

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Speaker 1: I know, I couldn't agree with you more, sir. And

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Speaker 1: you know, part of me was really really happy that

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Speaker 1: all this hit the fan over the weekend, because after

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Speaker 1: ten days off, my brain ate really fire, not all

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Speaker 1: cylinders coming back from vacation, sir. So this really kind

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Speaker 1: of took the weight off, at least in terms of

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Speaker 1: coming up with a well, very interesting topic. And this

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Speaker 1: was beyond interesting. Let me first remark as I opened

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Speaker 1: the show up this morning, putting aside all of the

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Speaker 1: you know, political implications, the legal implications and what this

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Speaker 1: might mean for us and how long we're going to

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01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 1: be involved in other things, we can talk about you

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Speaker 1: got to give the American military huge props for what

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Speaker 1: I mean, that was an unbelievable mission. I mean boom

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Speaker 1: boom in out, obviously well oiled, well planned, and clearly

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Speaker 1: we had some insight help within the Maduro regime. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what it's going to say this.

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Speaker 10: There's really two separate tracks to examine here, and both

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01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 10: deserve their own focus. And the first one is on

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Speaker 10: the military execution of this, and it was about as

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Speaker 10: flawless of a large scale operation as I have literally

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Speaker 10: ever seen in my lifetime.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's I think that there was when the

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Speaker 1: the leader of Italy.

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Speaker 10: Was captured by the Nazis actually s he was captured

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Speaker 10: in World War two, and they got him out of there,

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Speaker 10: you know, an amazing snatch and grab back in World

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Speaker 10: War Two. That's about the only thing I can think

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Speaker 10: of that reaches this level of precision. And you're right,

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Speaker 10: there's by all accounts, there was a double agent that

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Speaker 10: we had, involved probably multiple, probably not just one, but

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Speaker 10: definitely around the inner circle of the president. We had that,

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Speaker 10: But even without that, the operation to go in with

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Speaker 10: f thirty fives to take out a lot of their

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Speaker 10: command of control systems, the communications systems, definitely the air

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Speaker 10: defense systems. They didn't have great stuff, but they had

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Speaker 10: usable stuff, and the F thirty fives were apparently very

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Speaker 10: significant in taking those down. And then of course there's

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Speaker 10: just all of the rehearsals that went in. I mean

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Speaker 10: you're talking everything from the strategic, operational, and tactical level,

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Speaker 10: all the rehearsals that were done. There was apparently a

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Speaker 10: complete compound built from scratch at a rehearsal SIOTE at

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Speaker 10: some unknown location to where these snatching grabs were rehearsed,

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Speaker 10: so it was like they had been doing it one

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Speaker 10: hundred times. So the opportunity to execute this with literally

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Speaker 10: no friendly loss of life and no loss of aircraft

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Speaker 10: and a complete total success.

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Speaker 1: Of the mission by itself is just amazing. Now it's

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Speaker 1: the going forward component, which is the most complicating element

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Speaker 1: about all this. Donald Trump said, we basically are going

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Speaker 1: to run the country for some period of time until

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Speaker 1: I guess an election can take place till there's some

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Speaker 1: stability there. Devil's always in the details. But as you

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Speaker 1: and I have talked about before, and I hate to

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Speaker 1: pivot over to Russia and Ukraine, you know what happens

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Speaker 1: after Russia takes over whatever chunk they take over, there

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Speaker 1: are still loyal sympathizers to the Ukraine government, the idea

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Speaker 1: of sovereignty, and the idea that Russia is evil for

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Speaker 1: having invaded it. Those people represent a legitimate threat in

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Speaker 1: terms of you know, I think about Castro waging a

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Speaker 1: guerrilla war from the mountains. Maduro did have an army.

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Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure where they were. I understand he

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Speaker 1: was being protected by Cuban forces, which I thought was

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Speaker 1: rather interesting. But they haven't disappeared as an entity. Are

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Speaker 1: they still loyal to his regime? Are they willing to

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Speaker 1: be talked out of that loyalty? I know most of

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Speaker 1: them are corrupt. I mean, aren't these military people and

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Speaker 1: their hardware. Do they not represent a going forward threat

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Speaker 1: to the United States regarding whatever involvement we're going to

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Speaker 1: have there, because it seems pretty likely we're going to

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Speaker 1: have some boots on the ground there to maintain stability.

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Speaker 10: Well, let's hope not, because that could go south in

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Speaker 10: a big proby a big fast and all this great

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Speaker 10: stuff that we just talked about could be completely lost

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Speaker 10: if we go down the path of putting troops there

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Speaker 10: and trying to compel and force our way into this

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Speaker 10: because that's where things start getting much more complicated. And yes,

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Speaker 10: that's what I've been telling everybody. This operation to snatch

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Speaker 10: and grab was profoundly successful, but it didn't take out

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Speaker 10: the regime. And all these people who've been celebrating, Yay,

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Speaker 10: Maduro's gone and we're free, and all this keeps saying

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Speaker 10: that's premature. Nothing has changed. The system itself is fully

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Speaker 10: in place, and we're talking about the system that was

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Speaker 10: under Chavez and then translated into transitioned into Maduro. All

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Speaker 10: those people that have, many of them, like the vice president,

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Speaker 10: has spent literally decades of support to the to the

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Speaker 10: top level. Now she's in charge. By now, I guess

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Speaker 10: acting President Rodriguez, the question is going to be, what

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Speaker 10: are you going to do if they don't just say yes,

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Speaker 10: we'll do what you say, Because apparently Marco Rubio talked

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Speaker 10: to Rodriguez. Trump claims that she says she's gonna work

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Speaker 10: with this, but when she made a public statement, wasn't

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Speaker 10: quite that cooperative. And how could she be if she's cooperating,

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Speaker 10: I mean, her own life could be at risk inside

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Speaker 10: of her country, So there are some big time difficulties

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Speaker 10: remaining in front of us.

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Speaker 1: And no question about it. And you know that's that's

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Speaker 1: the part that's got me mostly worried. Now. The lynchpin

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Speaker 1: for all this. Some people are saying, no, Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: just won a regime change. Donald Trump just won to

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Speaker 1: Venezuela and oil. Those really were secondary the lynch pin

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Speaker 1: upon which whatever Donald Trump really really wanted out of

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Speaker 1: this or whatever you know, our State Department or whoever

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Speaker 1: CIA wants out of this can be accomplished. But the

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Speaker 1: lynchpin was that he had committed crimes. He was a

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Speaker 1: drug dealer, He had committed these illegal acts as a

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Speaker 1: head of a state. And that goes back to what

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Speaker 1: we went through with Manuel Noriega, very comparable operation. He

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Speaker 1: went through the entire legal process, made all the legality

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Speaker 1: arguments president can't do this, he doesn't have the constitutional authority,

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Speaker 1: it violates international law, and the courts shot down all

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Speaker 1: of that. So if you didn't have this criminal indictment

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Speaker 1: hanging over his head, then you wouldn't have been able

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Speaker 1: to go in and grab him and bring him to

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Speaker 1: New York City, right because he's the president of a

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Speaker 1: sovereign nation.

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Speaker 10: Look I mean, we got to be honest. You know

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Speaker 10: that the law doesn't even matter in this point. We'll

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Speaker 10: say whatever we want. But there's I mean, you can't

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Speaker 10: say because our country had an indictment on it, that

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Speaker 10: we are justified to go get him, because then you

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Speaker 10: literally open that Pandora's box. In every country on the

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Speaker 10: planet that has power can do the same thing to

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Speaker 10: their adversarias here.

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Speaker 1: We have set that precedent.

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Speaker 10: So to me, this is black and white. We wanted

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Speaker 10: a regime change. We wanted political control of the country

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Speaker 10: and physical control of the oil. And that's what's being

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Speaker 10: set up right now, at least that's what's being set

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Speaker 10: up as an exception or a desire. But as President

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Speaker 10: Trump said on I think it was an air force

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Speaker 10: one last night. He said, yeah, if they don't cooperate,

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Speaker 10: if they don't do what we tell them to do,

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Speaker 10: then we may go in there more. But I'm just

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Speaker 10: telling you, Brian, if we want to brag on how

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Speaker 10: good this snatch and grab was, if we have to

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Speaker 10: go in there and force anything on the ground, it's

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Speaker 10: going to get bloody big fast. And I'm just telling

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Speaker 10: you we don't have the force structure anywhere near sufficient

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Speaker 10: to actually compel the country to do anything that we want.

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Speaker 1: This is a really bad situation, quite frankly. Well, and

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Speaker 1: insofar as the Senators discussing a warpower's vote on this,

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Speaker 1: they tried this last November to got shot down and

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Speaker 1: that was it forty vote. If they can't pass a

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Speaker 1: war powers resolution to say limit the authority or otherwise

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Speaker 1: control what we can and cannot do in Venezuela, where

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Speaker 1: does that leave us? I mean, the president's are basically

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Speaker 1: free to do whatever he wants. I mean, I've been

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Speaker 1: struggling with this sort of ever since I read about this,

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Speaker 1: of what comes next and what if Congress doesn't do anything?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that you've had Seal And Lindsey Graham is the

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Speaker 10: biggest cheerleader of this. He's been saying and I actually

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Speaker 10: found something from twenty twenty last night where he just

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Speaker 10: holds that the nineteen seventy three War Powers Act is

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Speaker 10: not constitutional in his personal right opinion. That doesn't matter

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Speaker 10: what his opinion is. It matters what the rule of

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Speaker 10: law is, and the nineteen seventy three War Powers is

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Speaker 10: an actual law. The problem is, and he is right

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Speaker 10: in this regard presidents across the board have been ignoring

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Speaker 10: this for many, many, many years and many administrations. Problem

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Speaker 10: is with that is that you set a standard that

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Speaker 10: the law doesn't care. And so to answer your direct question, yes,

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Speaker 10: we are in a place where the law doesn't restrain

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Speaker 10: the president and he is totally free to do what

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Speaker 10: he wants because he has the law, he has the

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Speaker 10: Justice Department, he has the Secretary of Defense or Secretary

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Speaker 10: of War. The courts are not going to intervene, it

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Speaker 10: doesn't appear. And because he has the house in the

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Speaker 10: Senate right now, there won't be an impeachment. No one

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Speaker 10: will compel anything, and certainly the Senate. So that means, yes,

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Speaker 10: he is free to do whatever he wants with no constraints.

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Speaker 10: And I'm just telling you that it's bad for America.

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Speaker 1: Well does that mean Supreme Leader Ali Kameni over and

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Speaker 1: in Iran it feels like his life maybe in jeopardy

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 10: Why wouldn't he I mean, there's a lot of people

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Speaker 10: have to be concerned with that, and already our work

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Speaker 10: with the Israelis, they had already threatened that in the past.

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Speaker 1: They have done it with.

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Speaker 10: Hezbollah, with his leaders, many other leaders in other medium

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Speaker 10: sized leaders in i Raan have been assassinated. So we

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Speaker 10: just kind of opened up. Really, the Israelis have opened

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Speaker 10: up this Pandora's box, although you can I'll obviously say

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Speaker 10: that Trump did that in twenty twenty when he took

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Speaker 10: out Solomony with an assassination, attempt or execution. And this is,

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Speaker 10: you know, the law of the jungle man. I mean,

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Speaker 10: it's it's a lot of people are cheering today because

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Speaker 10: it's an objective that the US wanted, But I don't

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Speaker 10: see how this benefits our country. And I see how

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Speaker 10: it could be a really dark place to where the

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Speaker 10: rule of law gets shredd even further.

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Speaker 1: And that's problem for all of us. Yeah, I just said,

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Speaker 1: it depends on whose ox is being gord because Zorhan

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Speaker 1: Mandami has declared Benjaminettannia, who a war criminal responsible for genocide.

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Speaker 1: If there were presidents Zorhan Mandami, he could go and

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01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 1: do the same thing we did in Maduro, right because

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Speaker 1: he's been labeled a war criminal, right right.

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Speaker 10: And that's that's one of the things that I have

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01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 10: been saying, is that you know, we want to defend

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01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 10: President Trump's justification to go after because we declared him

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Speaker 10: the Maduro a criminal and then died him at court,

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Speaker 10: and that Yahoo is indicted in many countries as a

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Speaker 10: suspected war criminal, et cetera. And do you want to

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01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 10: say that any of those countries, if they have the power,

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01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 10: that they can go and try and do a snatch

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Speaker 10: and grab on net Yahoo. I mean, some people may say, well, yeah,

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Speaker 10: let them try, because you know Israel is not Venezuela,

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Speaker 10: and they would not go. Well, almost certainly that's correct.

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01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 10: But the president has been set and you know you

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01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 10: can't just you know, say all right, this one's fine

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Speaker 10: for us because we lock it.

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Speaker 1: That one's not fine.

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Speaker 10: That's different because well we lock him. But the problem

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01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 10: is that that's only as you just said, and the

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01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 10: eye of the beholder whose ox is gored, this is

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Speaker 10: just it's just not good for us.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 1: I'm just sorry. I'm just telling you, no, I feel

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01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 1: along the same way. I'm always looking down the road

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Speaker 1: at the next guy at the helm. And how this

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Speaker 1: would implate would have implications for every presidential administration from hereafter. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Davis gotta have you around to bounce these ideas

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Speaker 1: off of. And I appreciate you coming to the program

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Speaker 1: another twenty twenty six with the Daniel Davis Steve Dive

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Speaker 1: here on the fifty five KRC Morning Shore right love it.

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Speaker 1: Look forward to it, amen, brother, as do I. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk about the China Russia implications on this military action

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Speaker 1: maybe next time we talk, because that's that's another couple

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Speaker 1: of wrinkles in the Yes, it is big. It is

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Speaker 1: big thought to talk about there. Retire the Uenny Hurl

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Speaker 1: Daniel Davis find his podcast Daniel Davis Deep Dive. You'll

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Speaker 1: enjoy that. I'll look forward to having you back on

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Speaker 1: again real soon and Happy New Year, Sir. Seven seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Christopher Smithman waiting in the winnings for the

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Speaker 1: Talk station seven twenty one on a Monday, New Year,

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Speaker 1: same segment. Thank God for it. I always enjoy having

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Speaker 1: the former Vice mayor of the city since say Christopher

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Speaker 1: Smithment on every Monday at this time the event his

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Speaker 1: spleen the smith Event. Happy New Year, Christopher Smithman, Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the morning show.

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Speaker 5: Happy New Year, Brian Thomas, and I hope you had

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Speaker 5: a RESTful I've been listening to your show, so I

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01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 5: know you had the flu. I know you've been going

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Speaker 5: through some things. But I'm glad to have you back.

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Speaker 1: It's good to hear your I appreciate that very much. Yeah,

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01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 1: we really wiped our whole house out. Everybody had it

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Speaker 1: and my mom was particularly hard hit and we're all

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Speaker 1: praying for her, and it took her a couple of while,

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks to come out the other side.

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Speaker 1: Really really really wiped out. So anybody out there is

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Speaker 1: dealing with that flu issue, hang in there, lots of

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Speaker 1: fluids and try to get as much rest as possible,

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Speaker 1: and if you can get some Tama flu really early on.

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Speaker 1: I was lucky enough to get a prescription for that,

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Speaker 1: and I was able to dodge that bullet just after

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Speaker 1: a couple of days. So anyhow might experts.

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Speaker 5: Shout out to your mom and your bride and your

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Speaker 5: kids and you that you guys made it through. But

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Speaker 5: you know, as you know, the fluke is deadly. It

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Speaker 5: can be deadly, so it's nothing to play with. So

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Speaker 5: I'm glad your mom.

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Speaker 6: Made it through.

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Speaker 1: Thanks man. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 5: Brother. Look, you're a girl dad. I'm a girl dad.

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Speaker 5: There are a lot of girl dads out there. And

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Speaker 5: you know, I'm scrolling through in my news and I

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Speaker 5: see it. An eleven year old girl shot on the

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Speaker 5: playground in the way. She didn't have a chance, man,

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Speaker 5: she didn't have a chance. Here's a girl doing everything

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Speaker 5: she's supposed to do. She's playing, she's on a playground,

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Speaker 5: she's out of school, she's handling her business. My understanding

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Speaker 5: is she's not in a school in our area. The

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Speaker 5: bottom line here is this shouldn't have happened. And there's

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Speaker 5: so many levels to this. Being a girl dad meaning

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Speaker 5: my daughter Camille, who goes to seat in high school.

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Speaker 5: She's everything to me.

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Speaker 8: She is the world.

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Speaker 5: There's just something about a connection between a father and

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Speaker 5: a daughter. My heart goes out to her father and

1488
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 5: her mother. My heart goes out to this family. But

1489
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 5: for a man, this sense of provider and protect her,

1490
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 5: I didn't protect my daughter. Ecologically, what that does to you.

1491
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 5: I can't get my arms around it this morning. So

1492
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 5: there's the human part of this, the humanity part of this,

1493
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 5: where you have a girl who's on a playground, in Cincinnati,

1494
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 5: who's murdered right down by the FC Stadium. Now, what's

1495
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 5: so crazy about this is that the West End community

1496
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 5: has been clamoring for video, for cameras, for lights because

1497
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 5: they had another child killed there in the last year.

1498
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:33,720
Speaker 5: So the reality of it.

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01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 1: Is Dominus Davis was killed a couple of years ago.

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01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 1: They've been promising cameras for that long.

1501
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 5: So two years ago he was killed, and they've been saying,

1502
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 5: here's city Hall, We're gonna bring you cameras. We're gonna

1503
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 5: bring you lights, new lights, new cameras, and check this out. Dude,

1504
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 5: there was an election. There was an election in November. No,

1505
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 5: we're gonna deal with it. We're gonna roll up our

1506
01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:00,680
Speaker 5: sleeves and deal with it. Because the West End or

1507
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 5: should have known that Corey Bowman is right there, his

1508
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 5: church is there, his coffee shop is there, He's vested

1509
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 5: in the West End. They voted for this administration, this mayor,

1510
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 5: this council knowingly or should have known that they were

1511
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 5: not providing those cameras and lights.

1512
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, for this community, a promise that was made and

1513
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 1: nonetheless in the in the West End, which is where

1514
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 1: this happened. After have Pervoll in the current administration, eighty

1515
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 1: five to one hundred percent of the vote went their direction,

1516
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 1: eighty five to one. I'm looking at the chart Joe

1517
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 1: printed out. Thank you to the Inquirer and Scott Ortman

1518
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: for creating it so we know exactly what neighborhoods voted

1519
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 1: and in what percentage, in spite of the fact there

1520
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 1: was a lot of crime going on in the West End,

1521
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 1: in spite of the fact there were promised video cameras

1522
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 1: that never showed up, the lights that never showed up,

1523
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 1: eighty five to one hundred percent Pervoll and the current makeup.

1524
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 5: So why is this relevant to your listening audience, Because

1525
01:25:56,280 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 5: we if the cameras were there, we'd have video of

1526
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 5: a car of a person, we would know, we'd have

1527
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 5: an idea who shot her. We'd be chasing this person down.

1528
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 5: But right now we don't have the information that we

1529
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 5: should have had. If council and this mayor and this

1530
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 5: administration we're talking to Didney manager and all of them,

1531
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 5: they all have blood on their hands now, Listen. They

1532
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 5: might not have been able to stop the shooter, but

1533
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 5: in leadership, it's what you do. So two years ago,

1534
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 5: as you've educated me. I thought it was a year ago.

1535
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 5: Time goes by so fat. We had a young person

1536
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 5: murdered there. The community asked for something, they didn't get it.

1537
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:44,639
Speaker 5: We had an election. Now another girl is murdered there

1538
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 5: still no cameras, no lights, no press conferences. Community. This

1539
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 5: is what bothers me. And when we get back from

1540
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 5: the break, I'm gonna stay on this because I have

1541
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 5: a part beat to it, Brian that really gets under

1542
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 5: my cross. I'm gonna connect some dots this morning.

1543
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure you are, and it wouldn't surprise the Part

1544
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 1: C and D on top of Part B will continue

1545
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 1: with Christopher Smith of inventing his spleen as well he

1546
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 1: should seven twenty seventh Station seven thirty one here at

1547
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 1: fifty five kersee the talk station Smith event on to

1548
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,720
Speaker 1: part B of a multiparty breakdown of crime going on

1549
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 1: in the greater Cincinnati area, most notably the West End.

1550
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 1: You know, there was apparently a fourteen year old that

1551
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 1: was shot over the summer last year, same area, and

1552
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 1: prior to that, the eleven year old Dominic Davis killed

1553
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 1: more than two years ago. And then of course we

1554
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 1: had this poor eleven year old girl innocent as the

1555
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 1: day is long killed by a drive by shooting. I mean,

1556
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 1: there is no explaining this. And I understand your point

1557
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 1: of view from a father of a daughter, and I

1558
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 1: get that man, but it's got to be so damn

1559
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:53,600
Speaker 1: frustrating that this person was so innocent, clean hands, and

1560
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 1: yet her life was taken from her. You had more

1561
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 1: to talk about, Christopher, you got the floor.

1562
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 5: The politics for me is you have so many African

1563
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:08,679
Speaker 5: Americans on council. Stay with me. I'm gonna go into

1564
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 5: the pot of identity politics. Okay, they have a mural

1565
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 5: in the front Black Lives Matter. You've got a black

1566
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 5: city manager, you got a black vice mayor. You got

1567
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:26,639
Speaker 5: a black man who's chair of Law and Public Safety.

1568
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 5: You got black people all down there running all kinds

1569
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 5: of stuff. Iris Irish ROLLI Paig getting over six hundred

1570
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 5: thousand dollars a year, and you got an eleven year

1571
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 5: old girl murdered and we haven't heard a word from them,

1572
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 5: No press conferences, No, here are our solutions. Here's how

1573
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:53,679
Speaker 5: we're going to respond to the West End immediately, starting today.

1574
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 5: You would think that Mayor Pirval would have his podium

1575
01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 5: down there putting the damn cameras up himself after the

1576
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 5: eleven year old girl is murdered, like the apathy, like

1577
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 5: they have no understanding of the life that was snuffed

1578
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 5: out and their direct responsibility of not finding them. It's

1579
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 5: not the cops. The cops need help. They're neutering our cops.

1580
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 5: It when our cops do proactive policy. They're so worried

1581
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:24,720
Speaker 5: about the criminals and what's going to happen to them.

1582
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 5: We've got judges who are letting them out as suit

1583
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 5: as we arrest them. And we've got eleven year old

1584
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 5: girls getting murdered on a playground in the West End

1585
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 5: with no response from this mayor, no response from this council,

1586
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 5: and a West End community that eighty five percent of

1587
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:43,760
Speaker 5: them voted for it, but they got a mural on

1588
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 5: the outside of city Hall that says Black Lives Matter.

1589
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 5: Let me tell you something, Brian Thomas, you are my

1590
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:53,680
Speaker 5: white brother. You care more about Black Americans lives than

1591
01:29:53,800 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 5: they do. Yeah, they don't care. This is not on

1592
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 5: their radar. They're thinking about street cars. They're thinking about

1593
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:08,640
Speaker 5: FC and the stadiums and what should they do with

1594
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 5: District one, and how do they create some kind of

1595
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:13,679
Speaker 5: mall down there. That's like a like the yellow brick

1596
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 5: road all the way down in the city Hall. That's

1597
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 5: what's on their mind. It's not on the people. It's

1598
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 5: not on this dirty city as we drive around. The

1599
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 5: trash that's everywhere anywhere you look. This is a dirty city.

1600
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 5: I travel like everybody else travels. This is a dirty city.

1601
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:33,719
Speaker 5: We are turning into Chicago and New York every single

1602
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 5: frea your day. And I'm sick of it. I'm sick

1603
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 5: of listening to people like Mayor Purreval who care nothing

1604
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:44,840
Speaker 5: about the African American community with a mural on the

1605
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 5: outside saying black lives matter and our babies are being

1606
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 5: flattered in the street. And I have a right to

1607
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:55,080
Speaker 5: talk about this. I am African American. I have five children,

1608
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:57,639
Speaker 5: I have a daughter that goes to see I care

1609
01:30:57,760 --> 01:31:00,639
Speaker 5: deeply about it. My daughter could have been in that park.

1610
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 5: We could have gone over to Corey Bowman's church, had

1611
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,360
Speaker 5: a great service with him, and my daughter could have

1612
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 5: been in that park playing and she could be the

1613
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 5: one dead today. Wake up Cincinnati, wake up West End.

1614
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:18,719
Speaker 5: This bothers me. You know, it reminds me of this song.

1615
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 5: You know it's called sending the country. You heard this

1616
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 5: song the Crowns.

1617
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 1: Huh yeah.

1618
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:31,559
Speaker 5: It says it reads, are we up here? Mean here

1619
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:36,680
Speaker 5: at last on the ground, you in me dah And

1620
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:41,760
Speaker 5: then the clown We've got clowns down there at city Hall.

1621
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 5: That's what we have, brother, we have clowns down there

1622
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 5: at city Hall that care nothing about African Americans. They

1623
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 5: pimp us out every single day. The Democratic Party pimps

1624
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:57,759
Speaker 5: us out every time there's an election. Beneath the black vote.

1625
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:00,280
Speaker 5: We're gonna do this, We're gonna do that. They break

1626
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:03,640
Speaker 5: every single promise. Then they spit in the face of

1627
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 5: Republicans and Conservatives and independent and libertarians who actually care,

1628
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 5: who want to help, want people to say, hey, we

1629
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:16,400
Speaker 5: want to provide opportunity for you. We want to be responsive.

1630
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 5: I guarantee you if my friend Corey Bowman was the mayor,

1631
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:22,800
Speaker 5: there would have been cameras there the next day. I

1632
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 5: guarantee you If brad Winstrop had been the mayor, there

1633
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:29,439
Speaker 5: would have been cameras there already. The problem here is

1634
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 5: African Americans are confused. Lyndon Johnson put it together. He

1635
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:37,560
Speaker 5: said he was going to put a program together that

1636
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:41,639
Speaker 5: made sure that African Americans voted for Democrats for two

1637
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 5: hundred years, and he did it. And we're sleep at

1638
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 5: the wheel when eleven year old girls are being murdered

1639
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 5: on playgrounds and you have a mayor and a council

1640
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 5: doing nothing.

1641
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas, Well tell you what I really wish you

1642
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 1: were a little more passionate about this, Christopher Smithman, Let's

1643
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 1: bring it back for one more segment before we get

1644
01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:04,679
Speaker 1: to Hamilton Township Police Chief Scott Hughes with his opinion

1645
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 1: on the violence of the past couple of weeks. One

1646
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:09,599
Speaker 1: more with christ gab fifty five K the talk station

1647
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 1: seven forty one Here fifty five KRC the talk station

1648
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:18,839
Speaker 1: one more and he is venting without question today, Christopher

1649
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 1: smitham of this with the smith Man. We're gonna hear

1650
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 1: from Hamilton Township Police Chief Scott Hughes in the next segment, Christopher, again,

1651
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 1: the floor is yours.

1652
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 5: Well, I think the chief for his service and his

1653
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 5: commitment and all his officers and all peace officers across

1654
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 5: our country. But as you're about to interview him, I'm

1655
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 5: going to switch and just say, you know, I want

1656
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 5: to be clear. I support the administration for capturing Madura president.

1657
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:48,680
Speaker 5: He's not president, he's a he's a dictator. And the

1658
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 5: language is important because he stole the election. He wasn't

1659
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:56,680
Speaker 5: the president. There was an election of free election, and

1660
01:33:56,960 --> 01:34:00,720
Speaker 5: I assume that when that election happens again that the

1661
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:03,679
Speaker 5: rightful person will be elected in Venezuela. But what blows

1662
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 5: me away are these protests. It's hard to watch to

1663
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:10,800
Speaker 5: these people that are walking around acting like all of

1664
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 5: these people who are protesting around the world, not the country,

1665
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 5: Venezuelan's Cubans, Colombians, Latino people. The Latin community is excited

1666
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:25,080
Speaker 5: about the fall of this dictator because of all the

1667
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 5: things that he has done. The murder, the rate, the prostitution,

1668
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:35,479
Speaker 5: the drugs, the political prisoners. It's all insane in the

1669
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 5: Western hemisphere, and we finally had a president that had

1670
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 5: the kahunas to go in and shay, look, guy, not

1671
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:45,760
Speaker 5: in my backyard. This is not gonna happen here. Columbia

1672
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 5: better worry about it. Mexico better worry about it. Cuba

1673
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 5: obviously is in trouble because their oil is going to

1674
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 5: be cut off. Yeah, and you've got you've got a

1675
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:57,560
Speaker 5: Cuban who's the secretary of State if you watch that

1676
01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 5: press conference, listen, he's not he is Cuban. He's saying,

1677
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 5: I'm gonna clean this up before I get out of here.

1678
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 5: So the reality of it is, and you already see

1679
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 5: Cuban saying we want the fall of Cuba. We want

1680
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 5: Cuba to be a free country. Here's what's crazy. What

1681
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 5: is going on with these people that are out here

1682
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 5: protesting holding flags from Venezuela. They're not Venezuela's they have

1683
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:24,320
Speaker 5: no hone. It probably couldn't even tell you where it

1684
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 5: is on the map. But the reality of it is,

1685
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:29,920
Speaker 5: they're out there saying the president did something that was bad,

1686
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 5: even though the super super super super majority of the world,

1687
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:38,600
Speaker 5: including those who are directly impacted, are saying this was

1688
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 5: a great thing. Are they listening, Brian Thomas, What the

1689
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 5: hell is going on? What am I watching on TV?

1690
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 5: What am I missing when I see people out protesting

1691
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:49,800
Speaker 5: saying this was a bad thing, This was a drug lord.

1692
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 5: There was an indictment. I've been listening to your show.

1693
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:55,880
Speaker 5: This was an indictment the DEA. It was carried out

1694
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 5: by the president. This man was pulled out of his

1695
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:00,760
Speaker 5: bed with his wife and going to be a rain

1696
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 5: this morning for justice for his crimes. This is what

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Speaker 5: this was out. Nobody was killed. Our elite teams did

1698
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 5: a great job. We commend the military and everything that

1699
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:15,120
Speaker 5: they did over the weekend. I'm just saying, I'm not

1700
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:18,120
Speaker 5: talking about regime change. I'm not talking about oil that

1701
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:21,519
Speaker 5: Russia and China and Iran are down there taking anyway,

1702
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 5: anyway or anyway they're taking it. The reality of it is,

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01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 5: this was a terrible guy, a dictator that we had

1704
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:31,759
Speaker 5: a warn out for his arrest. And I've been listening

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01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:34,760
Speaker 5: to your show, Guy, I'm glad his buddy's in jail.

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Speaker 1: Well got to remember though he was a Marxist slash socialist.

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01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:40,640
Speaker 1: He was there, Darwin for a long time on the

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01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:43,560
Speaker 1: heels of Chavez. It was one of those countries that

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01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 1: was held out as an example to be followed. Bernie,

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01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 1: you know, Bernie Sanders like were all just praising about

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01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:50,720
Speaker 1: the whole idea of the concept that going on there.

1712
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 1: Marxists are willing to overlook the crimes of their Marxist leaders.

1713
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:57,720
Speaker 1: Look at Russia, the history of the murders that are

1714
01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:00,599
Speaker 1: committed in the name of Marxism and socialists. It's happened

1715
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 1: all over the world. They've killed more people in the

1716
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 1: name of their ideology than any other ideology out there.

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01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 1: They're not willing to hold their Marxists accountable for anything

1718
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 1: that they've done wrong, and I think that's where this

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01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 1: is coming from. So I don't know, Christopher, I don't know, man.

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Speaker 5: I'm watching the mayor of New York come out, damn it,

1721
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 5: and I tell you this is a very dangerous time

1722
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:27,760
Speaker 5: because it's so serious. You see Venezuelan's who are challenging

1723
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 5: these protesters. I am worried that this is going to

1724
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 5: turn into a toxic, violent situation because they don't know

1725
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 5: what they're playing with. They hate the president so much,

1726
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:39,280
Speaker 5: no matter what he does, no matter how successful he is,

1727
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:41,599
Speaker 5: no matter if this was in the best interest. Meaning

1728
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:44,519
Speaker 5: Democrats just two to four years ago were saying they

1729
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:46,559
Speaker 5: want him out of there. Now all of a sudden,

1730
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:51,000
Speaker 5: they're supporting him. They put a fifty million dollars back

1731
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:54,800
Speaker 5: on them, and ultimately this president went out and executed

1732
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 5: what they said they wanted. Now they're out protesting saying

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01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 5: everything is bad. I'm just saying to Brian Thomas, this

1734
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 5: is the complete insanity where people say people have this

1735
01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:08,719
Speaker 5: derangement about our current president. You have to be able

1736
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 5: to have sense and say when things you like are happening,

1737
01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 5: it makes sense you should be out there commending him.

1738
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 5: You shouldn't be out there trying to destroy America, destroy

1739
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:20,519
Speaker 5: our flag. I'm letting you know, brother, the Venezuelan people

1740
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:24,160
Speaker 5: are so excited about the possibilities of their freedom. I

1741
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 5: hope it goes well. I pray it goes well. But

1742
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 5: this was one hell of a step one balls. He

1743
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:33,519
Speaker 5: moved from the president, the executive of our country to

1744
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:36,040
Speaker 5: go in and snatch this man straight out of his

1745
01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:38,519
Speaker 5: bed with his wife and bring him back to New

1746
01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 5: York and arrang him on Monday. And I commend this

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01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 5: administration for what they did.

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Speaker 1: Christopher Smithing, always a pleasure hearing from me, and I

1749
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:49,120
Speaker 1: appreciate the passion behind your arguments and comments this morning.

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01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:51,920
Speaker 1: Love you brother, Love you two man. Yeah, Happy New Year,

1751
01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 1: looking forward to another New Year conversation all year long,

1752
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:58,000
Speaker 1: forty seven right now stick around Hamilton Township Police Chief

1753
01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:01,840
Speaker 1: Scott Hughes, considering the eleven year old got gunned down

1754
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:04,639
Speaker 1: in a playground and since he's West End just before

1755
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 1: seven pm, should never have happened. There is no justification

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01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 1: for this. And to join the program. Who has got

1757
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:14,519
Speaker 1: some comments of his own, the Hamilton Township Police Chief

1758
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 1: Scott Hughes. Scott, I saw your post the other day

1759
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 1: and I'm glad to have you on the program this morning.

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01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 1: Welcome sir, and happy New year to you.

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Speaker 8: Glad to be back, Brian, Happy New Year to you

1762
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:24,080
Speaker 8: too well.

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01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 1: Christopher obviously very passionate about his criticism of the administration

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01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:30,280
Speaker 1: in downtown Cincinnati, and I know the residents of the

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01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:33,599
Speaker 1: West End had been promised some cameras and some lighting

1766
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:36,320
Speaker 1: in this area for a couple of years. Only last

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01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:38,639
Speaker 1: summer did they get one hundred and fifty thousand dollars

1768
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:41,559
Speaker 1: financial allocation to do that. And yet, of course here

1769
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:43,920
Speaker 1: we are standing today, they have never been put in.

1770
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:46,360
Speaker 1: But that's not the biggest problem. The biggest problem is,

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01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 1: as from I understand it, officers are stretched way too thin.

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01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:55,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, Brian. This has happened at large cities all

1773
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:58,280
Speaker 8: across the country. I've had a couple of folks reach

1774
01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 8: out to me inside the city Cincinnati as an example,

1775
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:03,559
Speaker 8: and you know they're they're telling me that you've got

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01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 8: three police officers showing up for a roll call.

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01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:06,960
Speaker 5: Uh.

1778
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 8: And some of the busiest districts in Cincinnati, you've got

1779
01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 8: you've got robberies that are occurring, and they don't have

1780
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:15,639
Speaker 8: enough police officers to establish primeters to try to catch

1781
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:20,519
Speaker 8: these bad actors after they commit these crimes. And you know, uh,

1782
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 8: but preventative, excuse me, we can we can prevent crimes

1783
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:28,360
Speaker 8: by being visible, right, you know, I was using analogy.

1784
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:31,639
Speaker 8: Using analogy, what happens when you're driving up the highway

1785
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:33,639
Speaker 8: and you see a police car sitting in the turnaround

1786
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:35,000
Speaker 8: in the middle the highway? You slow down?

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01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 1: This the term right, Yes, I know that.

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01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:39,160
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, think about it. Right, as soon

1789
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:40,799
Speaker 8: as you do, you slam on the brakes and everybody

1790
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 8: slows down, and then you know that, and then they

1791
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:45,400
Speaker 8: resume after they passed the police car. Imagine if we

1792
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:50,519
Speaker 8: have police officers visible and in these locations, this eleven

1793
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:53,000
Speaker 8: year old kid is not dead, right, Uh, it's just

1794
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:55,080
Speaker 8: it's just something not going to happen. But when you've

1795
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:58,320
Speaker 8: got three officers showed up to roll call, uh, and

1796
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:00,160
Speaker 8: they're going from call to call to call, and then

1797
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:01,960
Speaker 8: when they do get calls, they don't have enough people

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01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:04,599
Speaker 8: to handle the calls. That is a recipe for divaster,

1799
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:06,640
Speaker 8: and unfortunately then you end up the situations like this.

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01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 8: So this has happened all across this country.

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01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:12,760
Speaker 1: Well, Chief Hughes, we have obviously known about the lack

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01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 1: of police officers or the limited number. Our contingent is

1803
01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:18,679
Speaker 1: still way below where it's supposed to be, and maybe

1804
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:21,280
Speaker 1: where it's supposed to be isn't even quite enough. The solution,

1805
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:25,360
Speaker 1: obviously is to hire more police officers, lateral hires, of course,

1806
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:28,560
Speaker 1: new police classes. That does take time. But if the

1807
01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:33,720
Speaker 1: administration had the will, if you had a pro policing administration,

1808
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:37,679
Speaker 1: one that understands exactly what you're talking about, more police

1809
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:41,960
Speaker 1: equals less crime, how quickly could we replace the contingent

1810
01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 1: of police officers? I mean, isn't that a logistical hurdle?

1811
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:47,200
Speaker 1: It's almost insurmountable these days with all the criticism of

1812
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:50,880
Speaker 1: law enforcement generally, Yeah, you know, it.

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01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 8: Sure is, And that is a big driving factor. You've

1814
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:56,400
Speaker 8: gotten morales, it's just absolutely crushed and a lot of

1815
01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 8: these organizations and these these men and women out there

1816
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:01,760
Speaker 8: in the uniform are doing what a buddy of mine

1817
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:03,960
Speaker 8: calls the hardest job in America. And they are doing

1818
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:07,400
Speaker 8: it with pride and honor, and they will. They are

1819
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:09,760
Speaker 8: willing to risk their lives for people that they've never met.

1820
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 8: But when when you're when you have locality locations that

1821
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:18,479
Speaker 8: are demonizing law enforcement, they're not supporting, they're not given

1822
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:20,840
Speaker 8: the resources that they need. It makes a job be

1823
01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:23,800
Speaker 8: more challenging. And you know, I'm up here in Warren County,

1824
01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:27,160
Speaker 8: we don't have this recruitment issues because we are in

1825
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:31,960
Speaker 8: a pro police location. Case in point, there is a

1826
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:34,080
Speaker 8: I'm sure you saw in the news this weekend. They

1827
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 8: had a high speed chase that came through Warren County.

1828
01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:41,440
Speaker 8: Multiple jurisdictions involved, and jurisdictions up here. It took proactive

1829
01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:45,280
Speaker 8: approaches in that pursuit and take these two individuals who

1830
01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:48,360
Speaker 8: are not from Warren County as minunderstanding into custody and

1831
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 8: they will be held accountable up here in Warren County.

1832
01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:55,960
Speaker 8: And it's just it's just amazing to me the difference

1833
01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 8: when you cross county lines and in some places state lines,

1834
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:02,080
Speaker 8: just the and what's tolerant and what's not, and where

1835
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:05,200
Speaker 8: you have recruitment issues and where you don't have recruitment issues.

1836
01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:08,679
Speaker 1: Well, I think part of the recruitment issue problem could

1837
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:12,599
Speaker 1: be solved if the administration was more outspoken in favor

1838
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:16,519
Speaker 1: of police. The silence from the city is just deafening

1839
01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:18,599
Speaker 1: when it comes to law enforcement and support of them.

1840
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 1: And you know, having Iris Rollie say what you want

1841
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:23,880
Speaker 1: about Iris Rollie, but she is not a friend of

1842
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:27,120
Speaker 1: the police department. She's been paying six hundred plus thousand

1843
01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:29,640
Speaker 1: dollars years under contract as a you know, sort of

1844
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:34,040
Speaker 1: a subcontractor employee of the city. You're not an employee

1845
01:43:34,160 --> 01:43:36,320
Speaker 1: of the city, but a subcontractor, so she's free of

1846
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:39,479
Speaker 1: all these nepotism rules and everything. But because of her

1847
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:42,559
Speaker 1: very prominent position and her close connection with f tab

1848
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:46,120
Speaker 1: Provo and the Vice mayor, that sends a message just

1849
01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:49,360
Speaker 1: in and of itself that's the city is not pro police,

1850
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:51,280
Speaker 1: and that to me would be a big step in

1851
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:53,799
Speaker 1: the right direction. Maybe get rid of her your thoughts.

1852
01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:58,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, so, I'm not familiar with her in particular down

1853
01:43:58,360 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 8: there in the city, but I can tell you based

1854
01:43:59,880 --> 01:44:02,240
Speaker 8: on what I've read and what I'm hearing, there's no

1855
01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:05,360
Speaker 8: doubt that that's impact the morale. It's impacting the mental

1856
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:07,639
Speaker 8: women who are out there doing this job. It's certainly

1857
01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:10,840
Speaker 8: going to cause hesitation. We have to be able to

1858
01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 8: proactively go after these these low level offenses. We know

1859
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 8: there's a there's a ferry called broken windows policing to

1860
01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:21,519
Speaker 8: target low up You know, if you target these low

1861
01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:26,799
Speaker 8: level offenders, that's going to prevent these bigger cases from occurring.

1862
01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:29,840
Speaker 8: But again, when you don't have enough officers out there

1863
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:33,800
Speaker 8: to make the traffic stops, to stop and have conversations

1864
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:36,000
Speaker 8: with people in the corners because they're going from call

1865
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 8: to call to call again, it's just this recipe for disaster.

1866
01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:43,040
Speaker 8: Like unfortunately we had a couple of days ago, you

1867
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:46,000
Speaker 8: have eleven year olds who are now victims because the

1868
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:49,639
Speaker 8: police officer's hands are tied, often by not their own doing.

1869
01:44:50,320 --> 01:44:52,719
Speaker 1: One can only pray that the murder of that eleven

1870
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 1: year old is a straw that finally breaks the camel's

1871
01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:57,680
Speaker 1: back of this anti police rhetoric that comes out of

1872
01:44:57,720 --> 01:45:00,280
Speaker 1: our elected officials. Can only pray to God that we

1873
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:02,320
Speaker 1: get more police, and you know, maybe the answer is

1874
01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:05,479
Speaker 1: offering them more money. Scott, That's one dangling carrot that's

1875
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:07,439
Speaker 1: certainly in the arsenal of options, isn't it.

1876
01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 8: You know, those guys and gals down there. They certainly

1877
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:14,800
Speaker 8: are not ever going to be paid enough. That is

1878
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:18,840
Speaker 8: certainly going to help incentivize this. But I think more

1879
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:22,680
Speaker 8: important than that is they have to have the support politically,

1880
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:27,000
Speaker 8: knowing that if they make a decision that's going to

1881
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 8: be supported as long as it's right, not wrong, good

1882
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:31,960
Speaker 8: not bad. People are going to protect them. They're going

1883
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:34,680
Speaker 8: to have their back. They've got to be outspoken, they

1884
01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:38,000
Speaker 8: got to be in front of us supporting these men

1885
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:40,800
Speaker 8: and women when they involve these situations. That's how you

1886
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:42,479
Speaker 8: That's in my opinion, that's how you improve it.

1887
01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:44,639
Speaker 1: Amen. And I'll tell you what I know. The members

1888
01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:47,880
Speaker 1: of the Cincinnia Police Department truly appreciate your support. Hamilton

1889
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:51,599
Speaker 1: Township Police Chief Scott Hughes. Keep up the words of support, sir,

1890
01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:53,600
Speaker 1: and you're always welcome here in the morning show to

1891
01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:55,960
Speaker 1: comment on matters law enforcement. Happy new Year to you

1892
01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:59,240
Speaker 1: and appreciate your support of law enforcement and running a

1893
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:02,320
Speaker 1: really tight shit there, my friend. Apparently a lot better

1894
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 1: environment for law enforcement than it is in the city.

1895
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:09,640
Speaker 8: I appreciate it. Brid Again, Happy New Year, thoughts and

1896
01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:11,320
Speaker 8: prayers of the family. Eleven year old.

1897
01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:14,519
Speaker 1: Exactly, Thank you, Scott. He's been a pleasure seven fifty seven.

1898
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:17,360
Speaker 1: Right now, Brother Andrea Ewing, Brother Dre in studio, he'll

1899
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:21,720
Speaker 1: be talking about crime Shibato six here of fifty five

1900
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:24,439
Speaker 1: kr CEV talk station. A very happy Monday, tet, A

1901
01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:27,519
Speaker 1: very happy new year to everyone. Nice to be back

1902
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:29,840
Speaker 1: to work. Nice to be firing on at least a

1903
01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:33,960
Speaker 1: few of my cylinders, and it is always great. I

1904
01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:36,400
Speaker 1: love this man, Brother Andrea Ewing would call him Brother Dre.

1905
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:39,840
Speaker 1: You can find him online and Andrea Ewing. He is responsible.

1906
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 1: He's the founder of a Curse Breakers three hundred strong

1907
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 1: and death Row ministries. He tried to help some people

1908
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:47,160
Speaker 1: dealing with the prison system to no longer deal with

1909
01:46:47,240 --> 01:46:49,519
Speaker 1: the prison system, to find solutions for these people to

1910
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:52,679
Speaker 1: choose a better path in life. And in fact, former

1911
01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:55,920
Speaker 1: police officer was almost we round up. We'll call him

1912
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:58,880
Speaker 1: thirty year veteran since I an police officer, so he

1913
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:00,920
Speaker 1: has been there. He's done the hard work that we

1914
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:04,280
Speaker 1: were just talking about with Hamilton Township Police Chief Scott Hughes.

1915
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:06,559
Speaker 1: He knows how bad things can be, he knows how

1916
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:08,600
Speaker 1: stressful the job is, and he knows what it's like

1917
01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 1: to be supported by elected officials and he also can

1918
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:15,840
Speaker 1: lay witness to what happens when our elected officials do

1919
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:18,560
Speaker 1: not support police. Brother Dre. It is great having you

1920
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:21,000
Speaker 1: back in studio. Happy new year, my friend. Happy new year.

1921
01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:21,719
Speaker 1: Brother Brian.

1922
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:25,479
Speaker 7: Is so good to see you. I'm excited about being here.

1923
01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:27,200
Speaker 7: It's time to go to work.

1924
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:30,799
Speaker 1: Well, we have come a long way since twenty twelve,

1925
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:34,120
Speaker 1: and I really truly you're not patting yourself on the back.

1926
01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:38,639
Speaker 1: You kind of brought this proclamation from the Hamilton County

1927
01:47:38,680 --> 01:47:42,479
Speaker 1: Border Commissioners that you received in honor of the work

1928
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:45,519
Speaker 1: that you did for community service and problem solving. It's

1929
01:47:45,560 --> 01:47:49,000
Speaker 1: the twenty twelve Beyond the Call Award, and it looks

1930
01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:51,240
Speaker 1: remarkably familiar. But as I see, it was signed by

1931
01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:56,320
Speaker 1: Greg Hartman, Chris Monzel and Todd portun acknowledging you for

1932
01:47:56,439 --> 01:48:01,600
Speaker 1: the work you did building cooperation between police and the community.

1933
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 1: You were doing outreach work, you were doing all kinds

1934
01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:07,360
Speaker 1: of you know, talking with churches, You met with community

1935
01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:11,560
Speaker 1: leaders discuss the idea of you know, enthusiastic responses. You

1936
01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:13,360
Speaker 1: talked about the idea of police, you know, having a

1937
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:16,120
Speaker 1: better relationship. You got an award for this. This is

1938
01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:17,960
Speaker 1: something that I just got off the phone with Hamilton

1939
01:48:17,960 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 1: Township Police Chief Scott Hugheston. He identified it and I

1940
01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:23,280
Speaker 1: brought it up to him. Wouldn't we have a much

1941
01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:27,080
Speaker 1: better city of Cincinnati if the damn elected officials would

1942
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:29,960
Speaker 1: come out and support the officers and praise them for

1943
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:33,160
Speaker 1: the work they do, Acknowledge their hard work, give them

1944
01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:37,559
Speaker 1: the support they need, Encourage strong policing, put cameras up

1945
01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:40,240
Speaker 1: where we obviously need cameras. I mean, there's a multitude

1946
01:48:40,280 --> 01:48:42,960
Speaker 1: of things. The silence is deafening. You don't hear anything.

1947
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:45,320
Speaker 1: If it ain't a ribbon cutting ceremony for some new

1948
01:48:45,400 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 1: skateboard park, you have to have parvolls missing in action.

1949
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:53,040
Speaker 1: So I mean, what happened between this time when what

1950
01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:56,439
Speaker 1: you were awarded for, which what we're all clamoring for.

1951
01:48:57,120 --> 01:48:59,759
Speaker 1: Whatever happened to these kinds of programs, they just disappear.

1952
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:03,559
Speaker 7: Called leadership once again. And you've heard me hammer it home,

1953
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:06,280
Speaker 7: and Smitherman was right on point. I thought I was

1954
01:49:06,360 --> 01:49:09,320
Speaker 7: listening to brother Drey this morning when Smitherman was talking,

1955
01:49:09,439 --> 01:49:12,080
Speaker 7: so shout out to him on his passion. I have

1956
01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:16,800
Speaker 7: a daughter as well, and I understand this process, and

1957
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:19,920
Speaker 7: it's the gloves are off, and they've always been off.

1958
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:22,519
Speaker 7: But when you look at what the community is developed,

1959
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:26,040
Speaker 7: you have your pastors, you have police, and you have parents.

1960
01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:29,640
Speaker 7: And back back then in twenty eleven, here it is

1961
01:49:29,720 --> 01:49:34,439
Speaker 7: a program being started, a faith based initiative called Fact

1962
01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:37,960
Speaker 7: D three. We started in District three. And ironically, guess

1963
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:40,240
Speaker 7: who was the captain in District three at that time,

1964
01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:44,759
Speaker 7: Captain Russ Neville, So he can witness the program itself

1965
01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:48,160
Speaker 7: and exactly what took place. And what's interesting is that

1966
01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:51,280
Speaker 7: what everybody is trying to do right now has already

1967
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:51,800
Speaker 7: been done.

1968
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:52,559
Speaker 1: But you had.

1969
01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:56,960
Speaker 7: Leadership and ego maniacs and people that are envious and

1970
01:49:57,080 --> 01:49:59,839
Speaker 7: jealous come in and try to dismantle a program.

1971
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:01,599
Speaker 1: And now what do you get.

1972
01:50:01,680 --> 01:50:05,679
Speaker 7: You constantly get chaos, You constantly get shootings. You constantly

1973
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:10,240
Speaker 7: get a community who do not trust the police. And

1974
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:13,599
Speaker 7: that's a problem. And they would rather see a little

1975
01:50:13,680 --> 01:50:17,600
Speaker 7: girl gunned down. They would rather see constant murders in

1976
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:21,840
Speaker 7: Cincinnati than to tell the police. Why there is no

1977
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:27,840
Speaker 7: relationship anymore with the police and with the parents and

1978
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:31,320
Speaker 7: the pastors need to get reinvolved to re establish this

1979
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:34,320
Speaker 7: relationship so we can build trust once again.

1980
01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:37,080
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm glad you brought the pastor part up because

1981
01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:40,800
Speaker 1: I asked you off air. And it's been my perception

1982
01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 1: that maybe pastors don't wield any level of respect or

1983
01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:47,840
Speaker 1: authority the way they at once point did a lot

1984
01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:49,680
Speaker 1: of people in the old days. We all went to

1985
01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:52,320
Speaker 1: church on Sunday. Children went and they were brought up.

1986
01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:54,640
Speaker 1: You know, suffer the little children come unto me. You

1987
01:50:54,760 --> 01:50:56,920
Speaker 1: bring them to church. They learned the rules, they learned

1988
01:50:56,960 --> 01:50:59,280
Speaker 1: the morals, they learned the ethic, they learned the values

1989
01:50:59,320 --> 01:51:02,760
Speaker 1: of Chris Janity or Judaism, whatever, all designed to make

1990
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 1: humanity work together and play together better. But do kids

1991
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:09,160
Speaker 1: go to church anymore? Does a reverend or a pastor

1992
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:12,320
Speaker 1: or a minister at one of the city churches still

1993
01:51:12,680 --> 01:51:18,160
Speaker 1: hold and wield some measure of influence over young people? No, Oh, God,

1994
01:51:18,200 --> 01:51:18,680
Speaker 1: that's so hard.

1995
01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:23,000
Speaker 7: Social media is the rule. People don't really come out

1996
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:28,000
Speaker 7: to fellowship anymore at churches. Churches are hemorrhaging for young

1997
01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:31,000
Speaker 7: people to come out. And this is an issue because

1998
01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 7: now most pastors have different agendas when they used to

1999
01:51:35,479 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 7: get out into the community. Avondale has fifty two churches

2000
01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:42,000
Speaker 7: on every block. You would go and see that there

2001
01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:44,800
Speaker 7: is a church, and in every community, you would go

2002
01:51:45,120 --> 01:51:45,559
Speaker 7: and see that.

2003
01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:46,320
Speaker 1: There is a church.

2004
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:50,040
Speaker 7: So the church would be responsible for their block. They

2005
01:51:50,120 --> 01:51:54,400
Speaker 7: would make sure that they know everyone in the community

2006
01:51:54,800 --> 01:51:58,559
Speaker 7: and would minister to that community, whether it's your house,

2007
01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:02,400
Speaker 7: a refuge where they're you need food and clothing, whether

2008
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:06,320
Speaker 7: you need even counsel. Those pastors are needed. But what

2009
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:10,280
Speaker 7: has happened now today? The pastors go against the police.

2010
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 5: Yea.

2011
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:15,120
Speaker 7: Now when you have strong leaders that constantly talk about

2012
01:52:15,160 --> 01:52:19,280
Speaker 7: the police and only bring up black lives matter, if

2013
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:21,320
Speaker 7: the police are involved in a shooting.

2014
01:52:21,280 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they want and the narrative is they will

2015
01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:28,400
Speaker 1: cite an illustration and no one, no one can say

2016
01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:32,240
Speaker 1: with a straight face that all police are all good, moral, ethical,

2017
01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:35,200
Speaker 1: right people. No one is correct. I mean, you're looking

2018
01:52:35,240 --> 01:52:37,679
Speaker 1: for perfect in any human being, you ain't gonna find

2019
01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:39,840
Speaker 1: it right, correct, So we start from that. But by

2020
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:43,160
Speaker 1: focusing on only the worst and then telling the rest

2021
01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:47,320
Speaker 1: of the world that all of them are participants in

2022
01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:51,599
Speaker 1: this egregious behavior, you've undermined the whole thing. And when

2023
01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:53,400
Speaker 1: you were talking about what the pastors used to do,

2024
01:52:53,479 --> 01:52:55,760
Speaker 1: they know everybody on the block. They would engage, they

2025
01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:58,320
Speaker 1: would find out they would listen and talk. That was

2026
01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:00,240
Speaker 1: kind of the role the police used to have. The

2027
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:02,720
Speaker 1: beat cop. You know, he knew the store owners, say

2028
01:53:02,840 --> 01:53:06,120
Speaker 1: hi to them, checking doors. That's the type of relationship

2029
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:08,280
Speaker 1: we need to build between police and the community. But

2030
01:53:08,320 --> 01:53:10,679
Speaker 1: if the community is of the perception that any guy

2031
01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:14,200
Speaker 1: in uniform or woman in uniform bad, if that's the

2032
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:18,200
Speaker 1: first response, you're not gonna get anywhere nowhere, know how.

2033
01:53:18,400 --> 01:53:20,680
Speaker 7: And this is what you see in the communities that

2034
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:23,760
Speaker 7: are happening. They really are saying, hey, we don't want

2035
01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:25,760
Speaker 7: the police here. We don't want you here at all.

2036
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:28,519
Speaker 7: We're not gonna support that at all. And if you're

2037
01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:32,759
Speaker 7: in our neighborhood now it's well, the police are gonna

2038
01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:36,280
Speaker 7: just arrest us and don't talk to the police at all.

2039
01:53:36,520 --> 01:53:38,520
Speaker 1: So now you have this misconception.

2040
01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:41,920
Speaker 7: What are you teaching our young people, especially our young

2041
01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:45,160
Speaker 7: inner city kids that look at the uniform and say,

2042
01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:48,080
Speaker 7: I despise you from jump And this is why it's

2043
01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:53,200
Speaker 7: important to reunite this relationship to really say we're not

2044
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:56,680
Speaker 7: just here to lock you up. That's not my intentions.

2045
01:53:56,720 --> 01:53:58,640
Speaker 7: And that's what I wanted to prove even back in

2046
01:53:58,680 --> 01:54:02,360
Speaker 7: twenty eleven, to say Hey, look, you're looking at the uniform,

2047
01:54:02,439 --> 01:54:05,000
Speaker 7: but let me tell you more about brother Dre. And

2048
01:54:05,200 --> 01:54:08,479
Speaker 7: this built the relationship that it became so strong. I

2049
01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:11,560
Speaker 7: was even awarded for it. But people lost sight of

2050
01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:14,200
Speaker 7: the vision. And like I told you before, even a

2051
01:54:14,680 --> 01:54:17,880
Speaker 7: Vice mayor Kearny, she knows about the program and things

2052
01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:22,080
Speaker 7: that are implemented. And one thing that agreeges me is

2053
01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:26,160
Speaker 7: when Miss Williams, the mother of the eleven year old,

2054
01:54:26,439 --> 01:54:29,559
Speaker 7: she made a comment said, we don't even live here.

2055
01:54:29,800 --> 01:54:34,680
Speaker 7: I hate this city. There's nothing but cruel people here.

2056
01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:38,240
Speaker 7: Now see that right there alone as a travesty and

2057
01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:40,920
Speaker 7: how they were treated at the hospital.

2058
01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:42,200
Speaker 1: And I know that to be true.

2059
01:54:42,440 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 7: And that's why this program was implemented, to teach pastors

2060
01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:50,640
Speaker 7: and have chaplains and have an emergency care team to

2061
01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:54,680
Speaker 7: go to these families at the hospital, because I've watched

2062
01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:58,240
Speaker 7: them just look at their loved one dead, and no

2063
01:54:58,440 --> 01:55:01,560
Speaker 7: one is there to support, No one is the go between,

2064
01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:04,040
Speaker 7: no one to talk to them. So I hope that

2065
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:08,360
Speaker 7: introim Chief Henny is listening because I'm tired of talking

2066
01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:12,120
Speaker 7: about the same things. Get a care team in place.

2067
01:55:12,280 --> 01:55:15,640
Speaker 7: It was dismantled back in twenty eleven and twelve because

2068
01:55:15,680 --> 01:55:18,720
Speaker 7: of jealousy. We need to have people in place that

2069
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:21,600
Speaker 7: know how to talk to the community and be a

2070
01:55:21,680 --> 01:55:22,280
Speaker 7: goal between.

2071
01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:25,880
Speaker 1: So a program that you were responsible for that proved

2072
01:55:26,040 --> 01:55:29,240
Speaker 1: itself a worthwhile program so much so that you got

2073
01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:32,880
Speaker 1: an award for it, they dismantled it over politics.

2074
01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:37,400
Speaker 7: Basically correct correct is there's always jealousy when you reach

2075
01:55:37,480 --> 01:55:39,560
Speaker 7: the top. Trust me when I tell you that. And

2076
01:55:39,640 --> 01:55:43,160
Speaker 7: when you are doing great things, you are a big

2077
01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 7: target and they say new levels, new devils. And so

2078
01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:52,200
Speaker 7: even though the program tried to continue, they couldn't continue it.

2079
01:55:52,360 --> 01:55:56,120
Speaker 7: Why because God didn't give them the vision. God didn't

2080
01:55:56,160 --> 01:55:58,240
Speaker 7: give them to know how what to do. And the

2081
01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:01,760
Speaker 7: key was it started in District three, but the goal

2082
01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:04,960
Speaker 7: was to have it in every district, to have a

2083
01:56:05,160 --> 01:56:09,680
Speaker 7: faith based liaison officer in all the five districts at

2084
01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:12,560
Speaker 7: that time. And what you would have is now a

2085
01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:17,800
Speaker 7: communication from every district, in every corner, in every church.

2086
01:56:17,960 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 7: It proved successful in District three, which is one of

2087
01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:24,320
Speaker 7: the busiest districts that we have, and so why wouldn't

2088
01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:26,680
Speaker 7: you want to utilize that in every district? So they

2089
01:56:26,760 --> 01:56:29,680
Speaker 7: didn't continue with the vision. And guess what happened, the

2090
01:56:29,800 --> 01:56:35,920
Speaker 7: relationships between the police and the pastors separated in the community,

2091
01:56:36,160 --> 01:56:38,000
Speaker 7: lost trust, and here we are today.

2092
01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:40,280
Speaker 1: And then you have the George Floyd impetus behind the

2093
01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:43,680
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter movement, which became a complete hate the police,

2094
01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:49,560
Speaker 1: defund the police, and propelling and continuing that broadbrush narrative

2095
01:56:49,600 --> 01:56:52,080
Speaker 1: that all police are bad. Let's talk with more with

2096
01:56:52,160 --> 01:56:55,440
Speaker 1: Brother Dre Andre Ewing fundment line Andrea Ewing on Facebook.

2097
01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:59,120
Speaker 1: He's just outspoken. He does a video sort of a

2098
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:02,280
Speaker 1: fireside if I may be so delicate, but he does

2099
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:05,000
Speaker 1: a great job at it. Eight sixteen right now, will continue,

2100
01:57:05,080 --> 01:57:09,640
Speaker 1: don't go away? Fifty five car the talk station, Ay

2101
01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:13,440
Speaker 1: twenty here fifty about Percy Talk Station. I will correct

2102
01:57:13,440 --> 01:57:16,640
Speaker 1: the record. Brother Drey is in studio, but I used

2103
01:57:17,120 --> 01:57:20,040
Speaker 1: Andre Ewing. It's his web page on Facebook. But he's

2104
01:57:20,080 --> 01:57:24,240
Speaker 1: got his own Curse Breakers one word three hundred dash,

2105
01:57:24,440 --> 01:57:27,160
Speaker 1: Brother Dre. If you just type in curse Breakers three

2106
01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:29,480
Speaker 1: hundred on Facebook, you will find it. And that's where

2107
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:32,240
Speaker 1: you can be well. You can enjoy his rants as

2108
01:57:32,280 --> 01:57:34,480
Speaker 1: much as I do. Each and every week Ox spoke

2109
01:57:34,520 --> 01:57:37,320
Speaker 1: and again he knows about law enforcement, having spent almost

2110
01:57:37,440 --> 01:57:40,640
Speaker 1: thirty full years as a Cincinni police officer, an award

2111
01:57:40,680 --> 01:57:43,040
Speaker 1: winner he is for his actions in the community, trying

2112
01:57:43,080 --> 01:57:46,640
Speaker 1: to breach that you know, trust issue that we clearly have,

2113
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:52,680
Speaker 1: which is fomented by politicians and programs that were successful

2114
01:57:52,920 --> 01:57:56,960
Speaker 1: that have been deleted or eliminated because new sheriffs in town,

2115
01:57:57,080 --> 01:57:59,920
Speaker 1: new administration all we can't keep around with the former.

2116
01:58:00,360 --> 01:58:02,120
Speaker 1: Did we need to go our own direction and take

2117
01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:04,240
Speaker 1: credit for that? I get that's I guess that is

2118
01:58:04,280 --> 01:58:06,960
Speaker 1: the impression. But going back to the political figures, we

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Speaker 1: have the pastors and the ministers, the community leaders, and

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Speaker 1: I'll throw Iris Rowley's name out there again because she

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Speaker 1: is so profoundly influential. You can say anything you want

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Speaker 1: about her. She's got a lot of sway politically in

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Speaker 1: downtown Cincinnati.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, I mean Iris Rowley, and I've said this is

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Speaker 7: powerful in the city of Cincinnati and other places. And

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Speaker 7: one thing that I know, if you want to move

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Speaker 7: the needle, you put Iris Rowley and Damon Lynch in

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Speaker 7: the same room. I guarantee the cameras to be down

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Speaker 7: there the next day. You're right, okay, Now, so we

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Speaker 7: have to deal with the elephant in the room. And

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Speaker 7: if you are that powerful and you have that type

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Speaker 7: of voice and you can move the needle. Why is

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Speaker 7: not this happening? So what has to happen is the

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Speaker 7: community of the West End OTR other areas they have

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Speaker 7: to I'll build their strong communities. They have to literally

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Speaker 7: stay consistent and come together as one. But if Iris

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Speaker 7: Rowley is strictly against the police and don't trust the police,

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Speaker 7: and hear Brother Dre is saying, hold on, we can

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Speaker 7: try to work this out. Let's work together. Guess what

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Speaker 7: they're gonna trust more Iris Rowley than they will now,

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Speaker 7: Brother Dre, because I've worn the uniform. So there needs

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Speaker 7: to be a breach of mediation. And that's why you've

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Speaker 7: heard me say on my podcast, I'm not here to

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Speaker 7: take sides. I'm here to save lives, right, And.

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Speaker 1: I just don't understand why she is that powerful and fine,

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Speaker 1: why doesn't she use that voice and that power for good.

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Speaker 1: You heard Smithman going on about, you know, the Black

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Speaker 1: Lives matter out there in front of city Hall, and

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Speaker 1: he's saying, damn it, these people do not care about

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Speaker 1: black lives because if they did, they would be working

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Speaker 1: to breach this gap that exists, a gap that exists

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Speaker 1: primarily because someone's so influential regularly goes out in front

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Speaker 1: of the crowd and says, don't listen to those people.

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Speaker 1: Police are bad, period, end of story. And then you

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Speaker 1: can't get off the ground with moving forward with bettering

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Speaker 1: the community relations and bringing about a safer neighborhood. What

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Speaker 1: is her problem with wanting a safer neighborhood. Police can

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Speaker 1: bring that about. The physical presence of police officers are

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Speaker 1: a deterrent to crime, stopping crime before it happens. Look,

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Speaker 1: there's a cop on the corner, I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: commit a crime like standing right there. That works. What's

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Speaker 1: wrong with that concept? Brother dray Well.

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Speaker 7: I believe in just talking to a lot of individuals

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Speaker 7: in the community that if we say release the police,

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Speaker 7: then there would be mass incarceration and they'll just start

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Speaker 7: to take advantage of the inner city of police. And

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Speaker 7: that's why I said there has to be trust involved,

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Speaker 7: and you have to make sure that these police officers

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Speaker 7: get checked accordingly. And that's why I always talk about

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Speaker 7: mental health. That you can't just let a police officer

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Speaker 7: go twenty twenty five years, fifteen years and never have

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Speaker 7: a wellness check. That's ridiculous. And I always said every

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Speaker 7: three months they should be having a strong psychological evaluation

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Speaker 7: to make sure how their policing is done. And even

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Speaker 7: have individuals that understand if this particular officer consistently gets

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Speaker 7: a complaint, they're consistently stacking charges. They're consistently arresting people

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Speaker 7: that don't deserve it. This is where you have, say

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Speaker 7: the brother dres that understand, why is this officer doing

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Speaker 7: what they're doing. So But now if you have it

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Speaker 7: one way, brother Brian, that says, we don't care, don't

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Speaker 7: trust the police, don't tell them anything. Now you have

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Speaker 7: a community that's afraid of the police and the bad guys.

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Speaker 7: That is a recipe for disaster. And this is what

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Speaker 7: you are seeing right now. No trust with the police

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Speaker 7: and I'm scared of the local bad guy.

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Speaker 1: Wow, And you know, just go I ask you the

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Speaker 1: question off the air. I mean, if you could get

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Speaker 1: a straight answer poll, you go out in every single resident,

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Speaker 1: unlike an election where only twenty five percent show up,

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Speaker 1: But if you got every single resident on record with

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Speaker 1: an honest answer to the question, would you like a

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Speaker 1: stronger police presence in your neighborhood? Period? End of story

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Speaker 1: I would like to think that most people would, especially

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Speaker 1: if you're in a high crime neighborhood like the West End, Well,

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Speaker 1: of course I would rather have police there. Maybe there's

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Speaker 1: some bad eggs within, but we're going to stop the

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Speaker 1: crime from happening because they're around all the time.

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Speaker 7: Correct, Correct, But being around is also just saying we

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Speaker 7: need our community officers to be more involved. And when

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Speaker 7: I was doing it, it was we were making visits

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Speaker 7: and constant community outreaches and we were involved in so

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Speaker 7: many things within the community, making those people with absolutely

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Speaker 7: and so they looked at the officer differently in the

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Speaker 7: uniform based on that. Now the officer doesn't have the

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Speaker 7: time to go up about that. This is why I said,

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Speaker 7: if you have experienced veteran officers that have retired, put

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Speaker 7: them into a community relations position to go into the

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Speaker 7: neighborhoods and rebuild the trust. You have all this money,

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Speaker 7: your auditioning out, but like I said, you're not focusing

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Speaker 7: it on the right resources. Bring back these educated officers

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Speaker 7: that understand, give them the right training and allow them

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Speaker 7: to rebuild the relationships within the community on a regular basis.

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Speaker 7: Because the the the cop team units now they're overwhelmed

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Speaker 7: with so many other projects that they.

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Speaker 5: Have to do.

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Speaker 1: Is down too and we need more office. Absolutely, work done. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: we'll continue with Andrea Ewing again. Curse Breakers three hundred

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Speaker 1: free t shirts with the question Cursebreakers three hundred, dash

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Speaker 1: Brother Dre on book, that's where you find the man

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Speaker 1: who is brother Dre. Andre Ewingien Studio. Thirty years as

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Speaker 1: a police officer, just shy. He's seen it all. He's

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Speaker 1: had programs that he's been behind and got awards for them,

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Speaker 1: ways of bettering community relations between the police and the

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Speaker 1: community and of course holding those responsible for bad behavior responsible.

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Speaker 1: And you know the way the data is collected these days,

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Speaker 1: this isn't the old days, Drey. I mean, you can't

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Speaker 1: get away with stuff like he did in the old days.

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Speaker 1: The officers all have cameras recording what they're doing when

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Speaker 1: they're on the beat. Everybody's got a camera around him.

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Speaker 1: The city's got cameras all over the place, well except

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Speaker 1: for the West end, so you know this is going

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Speaker 1: to be recorded. Police know that they aren't this isn't

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Speaker 1: the days of the rubber hose and beating confessions out

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Speaker 1: of people. And I'm not going to excuse, you know,

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Speaker 1: pulling people over for driving while black or something. We

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Speaker 1: all know that that puts a bad taste in people's mouths.

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Speaker 1: They're just harassing me. But I mean the idea that

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Speaker 1: these solutions that you you talked to, and one of

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Speaker 1: the programs you mentioned was there, and we used to

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Speaker 1: have the officers in school and talking about issues with

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Speaker 1: drugs and reaching out and getting in touch with these

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Speaker 1: young people and establishing this relationship. Now, I asked you,

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Speaker 1: because that doesn't exist anymore.

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Speaker 7: Apparently, correct, not here in Cincinnati. It is in some

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Speaker 7: nationwide departments inside the schools and for the their program

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Speaker 7: that was the Drug Abuse Resistance Education. It is neat

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Speaker 7: especially in times of today, that is so much easy

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Speaker 7: access to drugs everywhere for our kids, and so it

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Speaker 7: is necessary that we educate them properly. I've talked to

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Speaker 7: school teachers and they tell you we can't even teach

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Speaker 7: because the kids come in high they are either smoking weed,

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Speaker 7: they have alcohol, and this is a major major issue

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Speaker 7: and we can't keep up with trying to educate them.

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Speaker 7: Them and they constantly get left behind. And this is

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Speaker 7: why you had all these alternative and charter schools being developed,

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Speaker 7: and you look back and you don't there's a charter

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Speaker 7: school every other month coming of being presented, which is

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Speaker 7: absolutely ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Well did the program work? That was the question I

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Speaker 1: asked you was a follow up because you know, quite often, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a we got a new solution, let's let's fund

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Speaker 1: this program, and then we find out that the program

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Speaker 1: is funded. Yeah we've got DARE going on in the

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Speaker 1: school system, but you don't hear anything about the result.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that a program that actually bore fruit and helped

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Speaker 1: people stay off drugs and get them on the right path.

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Speaker 7: Yes, it did. We have some excellent SROs that implemented

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Speaker 7: the DARE program. I mean they they had a relationship

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Speaker 7: with the kids that was amazing and knew how to

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Speaker 7: talk to them in a special way, and the kids

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Speaker 7: trusted them as well, because now they are not just

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Speaker 7: on the police, they're educating and they're telling you that

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Speaker 7: things that are bad and what can happen to you

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Speaker 7: if you have drugs on you. So it was an

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Speaker 7: early intervention and they tell you already that early intervention

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Speaker 7: is part of a problem solving in these things. It

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Speaker 7: isn't rocket science. But if we don't you already have

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Speaker 7: an audience when you have kids already in school.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you do. And I was just laughing as you

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Speaker 1: were saying that at early intervention, going back to getting

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Speaker 1: kids back into church again, you know, if the wrath

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Speaker 1: of God is going to come down upon you, and

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Speaker 1: you learn that at a really early age and as

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Speaker 1: a way of keeping you out of trouble a lot.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, absolutely, And it's proven that gun violence drops when

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Speaker 7: policies are layered, but they're not extreme. I'm gonna give

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Speaker 7: you an example. So you number one, you got to

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Speaker 7: have responsible gun laws. I mean, let's make sure that

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Speaker 7: the laws definitely fit the crime. When we don't just

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Speaker 7: patch you on the back and rub you down with

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Speaker 7: some and say it's okay, I mean, we got to

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Speaker 7: get serious. And then the strong communities that for some reason,

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Speaker 7: the communities are not strong anymore, they're broken, and we

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Speaker 7: have to find a way to redevelop the strong communities,

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Speaker 7: not after major issues happened before. And then you have

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Speaker 7: to have once again we just said it, early intervention,

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Speaker 7: and it's so you have that early intervention, then then

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Speaker 7: there has to be what Brian accountability for violent behavior.

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Speaker 7: So there's still accountability, there still has to be discipline.

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Speaker 7: We're not just going to say no, it's over. So

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Speaker 7: when you layer these things, this has been proven proven

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Speaker 7: to work. So that's why it amazes me when I

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Speaker 7: keep hearing all these thousands of programs that keep coming up.

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Speaker 7: And I talked to somebody after we did a youth

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Speaker 7: interaction before, and he said, if we can concentrate more

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Speaker 7: on collaboration versus competition, we could move the need in

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Speaker 7: a strong way and our hundred percent and agree.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's like the hand in the cookie jar kind

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Speaker 1: of thing that we saw in Minnesota and elsewhere in

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Speaker 1: this country. You know, you create a non governmental organization

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Speaker 1: who has all these great ideas and all the best

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Speaker 1: interests of the community, and everybody lines up and creates

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Speaker 1: their own NGO. They're going to get a check and

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Speaker 1: they're on competition for whatever finite number of dollars. Is

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Speaker 1: is there any follow up with any organization out there

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Speaker 1: claiming to do what you actually did back in twenty

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Speaker 1: eleven that is showing results, it is actually proving that

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Speaker 1: it works. I don't ever hear any follow up.

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Speaker 7: And that's the problem is they have all these government

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Speaker 7: funds and federal funds that come out and they just

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Speaker 7: start giving away money. We want to see the proof

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Speaker 7: in the putting. Let's see exactly. Let's measure how this

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Speaker 7: has worked and save lives and made transformations.

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Speaker 1: A thirty six. Right now, we will continue with Brother

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Speaker 1: Dre Kursebreaker three hundred, Brother Dre on Facebook. Hold on

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Speaker 1: You're see the Talk State. Hey forty Here at fifty

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Speaker 1: five KARCD Talk station, Brian Thomas with in studio Curse

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Speaker 1: Breakers three hundred, Brother Dre Andre Ewing again, thirty year

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Speaker 1: police officer. He's got some great ideas about how to

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Speaker 1: repair community relations and he got an award for these

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Speaker 1: types of ideas a decade ago, and apparently they got

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Speaker 1: rid of them because well, the new administration, well they

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Speaker 1: weren't their ideas. So let's toss that out throughout the

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Speaker 1: baby with the bathwater. Let's not keep what works, let's

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Speaker 1: start with something new. And then that brings us to

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Speaker 1: the challenge of you know, is there any accountability with

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Speaker 1: whatever programs have been started to correct this problem and

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Speaker 1: to bring it. You know, I honestly, Dre, I would

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Speaker 1: think that correcting the misperception that police are all bad

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Speaker 1: that is probably the easiest of the challenges. Just straight marketing.

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Speaker 1: You got Purval and Michelle and Kearney, and you've got

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Speaker 1: everybody on board praising the police, saying, don't demonize them,

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Speaker 1: welcome them. They've got great resources. They can steer you

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Speaker 1: in the right direction, keep you out of trouble. They're

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Speaker 1: not there to hurt you or the there to help you.

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Speaker 1: That's why they signed up. That seems the easiest of

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Speaker 1: the challenges to deal with. And you mentioned earlier in

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Speaker 1: the program, you know, these outreach programs you try to

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Speaker 1: engage parents and pastors and all these other community leaders.

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Speaker 1: The word parents. I wrote that down because I get

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Speaker 1: the impression that parents just don't seem to really care

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Speaker 1: what their kids are up to at any given time,

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Speaker 1: that there isn't that disciplinary component. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what you were like growing up, but growing up

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Speaker 1: in my house, the biggest concern I had was the

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Speaker 1: incurring the wrath of my dad or my mom. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that was primary discipline. Number one didn't matter if I

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Speaker 1: got paddled in school. I was going to get a

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Speaker 1: paddle when I got home too, and it was going

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Speaker 1: to be worse than the one I got at school.

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Speaker 1: So they cared enough about my future to make sure

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Speaker 1: I went to school, to make sure I applied myself.

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Speaker 1: Is that as a concept just completely disappeared, dray Well, Let's.

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Speaker 7: Deal with the facts, brother Brian. One of the things

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Speaker 7: that are is true is when you have fatherless homes,

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Speaker 7: it has been proven fact that your kids will more

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Speaker 7: than likely over sixty to seventy percent will be involved

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Speaker 7: in some type of dysfunction, some type of crime, some

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Speaker 7: type of drug addiction. So it is a shout out

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Speaker 7: to the real fathers that handle their business. I'm all

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Speaker 7: for you, But the ones that are out here doing nothing,

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Speaker 7: that have zero relationship with your children, that just want

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Speaker 7: to keep making babies and that's it. There is a

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Speaker 7: responsibility as men, and I can speak on the level

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Speaker 7: of a black father who raised his daughter had full custody.

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Speaker 7: Shout out to Moline, I love you.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 7: The bottom line is black fathers need to stand up

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Speaker 7: as well as white fathers. I don't care what race

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Speaker 7: you are but the father in the home is important

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Speaker 7: to have that relationship. So when you have these absentee das,

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Speaker 7: it has been proven that violence will increase. You have

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Speaker 7: young young men and women that just are frustrated at

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Speaker 7: life because the number one person that should be in

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Speaker 7: my life to show me some grounding is no longer there.

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Speaker 7: And now the mothers have to either work over time,

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Speaker 7: double time trying to raise these children. And so what

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Speaker 7: happens is the siblings and the children have to take

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Speaker 7: care of the other siblings, so they don't go to

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Speaker 7: school and get the education necessary.

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Speaker 1: And this has to change absolutely well. And that's see

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Speaker 1: another seemingly insurmountable problem. If you have abasthe fathers, they're disappeared,

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Speaker 1: they're gone, they're a jult, doesn't matter what happened to them.

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Speaker 1: Then that's a role that could possibly be filled by

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Speaker 1: men like you, people who are willing to engage in

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Speaker 1: programs for young people to act as that mentor and

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Speaker 1: to provide that fatherly figure God idans that these children

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Speaker 1: so desperately need. I mean, that seems to be a

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Speaker 1: worthy goal and a worthy idea as long as you're

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Speaker 1: not politicizing it. I mean, I want to turn my

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Speaker 1: kid over to You know, if I left my young kids,

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Speaker 1: if I still had young kids who weren't adults, and

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Speaker 1: I put them in the hands of Andrea Ewing, I

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Speaker 1: know they'd be taking great care of I know your message.

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Speaker 1: I know what you would be saying. I know that

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Speaker 1: they would be safe in your you know, under your tutelage.

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Speaker 1: And it is possible that there's someone out there that

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Speaker 1: has this idea, but then they'll turn it into a

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Speaker 1: big political exercise and try to convince your kids a

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Speaker 1: cops suck or something like that. But we need strong

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Speaker 1: father figures to fill in that void where they do

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Speaker 1: not exist in these young people's lives or they're destined

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Speaker 1: to that percentage you mentioned.

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Speaker 7: One hundred percent. And what's interesting is I was doing

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Speaker 7: all this on my police salary. Yeah, I know, I know, Okay,

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Speaker 7: I didn't ask for give me a special amount of money.

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Speaker 1: I wish i'd have brought that up there.

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Speaker 7: Give me all this financial means that I need to

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Speaker 7: make it happen. I did it within the confinement of

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Speaker 7: my work shift. And that's why I'm gonna give a

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Speaker 7: shout out to Captain Russ Neville and I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 7: you why. You know, we know I have have the

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Speaker 7: issues with Chief theji Okay, But Captain russ Neville he

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Speaker 7: understood the vision at District three. He saw the work

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Speaker 7: that I was doing and he said, what do you

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Speaker 7: need to make this successful?

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Speaker 1: And I'll give it to you.

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Speaker 7: Whether it was the days off, whether it was the overtime,

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Speaker 7: he said, I want to make sure this happened. And

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Speaker 7: the key was he was directly involved that every pastor

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Speaker 7: every community member that I met, he took the time

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Speaker 7: out to sit at the table to make sure these

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Speaker 7: things were going to happen. And it was interesting because

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Speaker 7: he was out of his comfort zone going into I

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Speaker 7: want to say black churches and being in a position

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Speaker 7: to speak. But it brought the relationship together because number one,

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Speaker 7: they never really seen a white officer come into an

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Speaker 7: all black church. But I was able to show him

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Speaker 7: exactly how there are cultural differences, but how we can

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Speaker 7: come together. And he saw firsthand how it worked. And

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Speaker 7: the proof is in what you see right here in

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Speaker 7: the rewards that was just given.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna pause. We'll bring him back for one

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Speaker 1: more since we have one more segment with Curse Breaker three.

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Speaker 1: Hundred Brother Dre. He talks about it now.

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Speaker 7: I'm Stephen Curry and this is Gentleman's cut.

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Speaker 5: I think what makes Gentleman's.

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Speaker 1: Cut their CD talk station. Happy New Year Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: with Brother Dre. You can find him online in Facebook

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Speaker 1: Curse Breakers three hundred dash Brother Dre and you'll be

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Speaker 1: very entertained by what he has to say, some enlightening

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Speaker 1: comments and some very pointed criticisms from time to time.

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Speaker 1: That's why we bring him on the program. All right,

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Speaker 1: man who had successful ideas and again got an award

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Speaker 1: for what he was doing and by way of outreach

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Speaker 1: more than a decade ago, programs that actually work. This

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Speaker 1: was through District three of the CINCINNT Police Department, and

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Speaker 1: he was doing all of this work, the outreach work,

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Speaker 1: the efforts to you know, bring themmunity together, getting the

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Speaker 1: priests together, the ministers and and and the people of

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Speaker 1: faith together to work with the community and all designed

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Speaker 1: to you know, grease the skids and oil the machine

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Speaker 1: of better community relations and also trying to have an

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Speaker 1: impact on young people and change the trajectory of their life.

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Speaker 1: You were able to do this. You had the help

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Speaker 1: of the Captain of District three. Who offered you the resources?

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Speaker 1: No one wrote you a check.

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Speaker 4: No one.

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Speaker 1: This wasn't a decree from the from the mayor or

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Speaker 1: the vice mayor or the city manager and demonstrated success.

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Speaker 1: Could they do this again on their own? The police?

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Speaker 1: I mean, is there someone stopping this successful program from

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Speaker 1: coming back or re engaging it or reimagining it along

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Speaker 1: the similar lines stray No.

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Speaker 7: This comes down to the chief of police. Okay, the

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Speaker 7: chief doesn't need permission from the city manager. The chief

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Speaker 7: doesn't need permission from the mayor to implement programs within

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Speaker 7: the department. And that's why I say, you have to

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Speaker 7: have the right people in place that will be effective

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Speaker 7: to make these things happen. And the officer who has

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Speaker 7: a heart for people, that understands and care about people,

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Speaker 7: and they should go through a chaplaincy program as well

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Speaker 7: to understand that process. And that's why it was good

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Speaker 7: to have everyone work together between the parents, police and

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Speaker 7: the pastors. It is necessary. But the chief of police

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Speaker 7: could right now if he wanted to call Andre Ewing

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Speaker 7: say we want to implement a program and re establish

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Speaker 7: some things, he could actually get officers. So if you

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Speaker 7: said you don't have the man power, you don't have

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Speaker 7: the bodies. Guess what I've said it one hundred times.

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Speaker 7: Bring back retired officers that know the community, know how

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Speaker 7: to talk to people, and can addressing on a whole

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Speaker 7: different level.

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Speaker 1: And I think if they spring from this, you know

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Speaker 1: this belief that you have this, you know that you

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Speaker 1: haven't lost hope for humanity. You know there's a better way.

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Speaker 1: If they're interested in engaging in this type of I'll

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Speaker 1: call it a ministry for lack of a better word,

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Speaker 1: You're not going to have getting retired police officer. This

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Speaker 1: isn't like getting a lateral higher from a police department

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Speaker 1: where you are hiring a person to engage in law enforcement.

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Speaker 1: This would be outside of arresting people. This would be

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Speaker 1: a spokesperson, an interventionists, someone who could help spread the

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Speaker 1: resources that are available.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely and to implement that that training that's necessary so

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Speaker 7: officers can relate to the issues at hand. And one

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Speaker 7: thing that made the program even successful was going into

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Speaker 7: the Hamilton County Justice Center and having the Curse Breakers

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Speaker 7: three hundred program there and bringing in officers that never

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Speaker 7: had an opportunity need to actually talk to those who

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Speaker 7: are incarcerated on that level, they would drop them off

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Speaker 7: but not talk to them, so they would understand and

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Speaker 7: even develop a different type of relationship with those that

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Speaker 7: are incarcerated.

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Speaker 1: Right, and you were in rooms with, you know, twenty

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Speaker 1: five thirty probably murderers because if they were still locked

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Speaker 1: up in a lock up, they obviously had committed some

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Speaker 1: pretty bad crimes. But they listened to you and they

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Speaker 1: appreciated you. From what I've understand, are many conversations both

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Speaker 1: on air and off air about this. They had respect

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Speaker 1: for a man who came in, who used to wear

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Speaker 1: the uniform, who even wore the uniform. A cop is

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Speaker 1: sitting here talking to me. That's just highly unusual. But

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Speaker 1: the idea that it had an impact, that it actually worked.

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Speaker 1: It was not you were spinning your wheels there talking

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Speaker 1: to someone like you were talking to a brick wall.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, because I was building the relationships number one, to say,

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Speaker 7: when you get released, we want to make sure you

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Speaker 7: have relationships already in place, right and wherever you go

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Speaker 7: back home, it's your community and we need to work together.

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Speaker 7: And so it was teaching these young men and women

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Speaker 7: how to be responsible in their community and build these

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Speaker 7: relationships prior to so if they already number one, Employment

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Speaker 7: is an issue. Guess what you have, Brother Dre, Officer

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Speaker 7: ewing as a liaison talk to an employer and say,

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Speaker 7: this person has these skills and are ready to go

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Speaker 7: right now, And all of a sudden, you can implement

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Speaker 7: a interview with this person because they've had the train

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Speaker 7: as soon as their foot hits the ground and are released.

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Speaker 7: Guess what, They're not a menace to society, but they're

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Speaker 7: a productive person in society, and they go right to

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Speaker 7: employment and feel better about themselves.

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Speaker 1: Feeling better about yourselves, you know, the beauty of work,

2547
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Speaker 1: quite often is that it's worth. Absolutely gives you self respect,

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Speaker 1: gives your reason to get up in the morning, and

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Speaker 1: it provides a great foundation for you to maybe have

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Speaker 1: a family and take care of your kids. Absolute, Brother Dre,

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Speaker 1: always a pleasure having you in my studio. You are

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Speaker 1: always welcome in my studio, sir, or even just calling

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Speaker 1: in if you have if you can't make it in,

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Speaker 1: and I hope that you will be available throughout the

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Speaker 1: year from time to time to have these conversations further.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, and once again I'm tired of saying condolences to

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Speaker 7: families for the loss and there needs to be responsibility

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Speaker 7: on a whole nother level. Let's not wait for another

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Speaker 7: tragedy to do what is right. And someone my mentor,

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Speaker 7: said this to me. He said, helping hands do more

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Speaker 7: than praying lips. And I said, wow, because faith without

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Speaker 7: works is dead. So you can pray for me, but

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Speaker 7: I also want your works to prove what you're saying

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Speaker 7: with your mouth.

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Speaker 1: That's beautiful message under you aren't going to leave that